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Speaker 1: Hello, Shirley fans.

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Speaker 2: For the last three years, Jason and I have been

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bringing you the stories behind all of your favorite movies

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from the eighties. But today we begin a new series.

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Speaker 3: In twenty sixteen, the Duffer Brothers introduced the world to

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Stranger Things. This show not only changed the way we

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all watch television, but surprisingly also truly impacted the music

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we listened to, from Africa to Running Up That Hill.

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Stranger Things has brought back songs of our past and

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introduced them to a whole new generation.

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Speaker 2: So The Shirley you Can't Be Serious Podcasts begins a

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new series bringing you the stories behind the songs of

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Stranger Things. Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley

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you Can't Be Serious podcast. I can't tell you how

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excited I am to be jumping back into Stranger Things

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with my good buddy Jason Calvin.

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Speaker 1: What's up, d how's it going? Man?

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Speaker 2: I am super excited to be here. We decided, guys

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that we were instead of going episode by episode for

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the last four episodes of season one, we decided we're

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going to pack all of them into one super episode.

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We may not hit every single song, but we're going

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to hit the important ones and the ones with the

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good stories. And then at the end of all of this,

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we will give you our top five songs for season

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one of Stranger Things.

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Speaker 3: And then once we're done with that, where of course

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we're diving into our Christmas movies, where we're going to

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do Christmas Vacation versus Scrooged here in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Chevy Chase versus Bill Murray. I mean, it's just like backstage.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we'll see when's the fist fight this time?

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Speaker 1: Exactly exactly.

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Speaker 3: Hey, before we get started, I've got to do just

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a couple of quick shout outs. I want to mention

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real quick.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So I was talking to my buddy JJ Woody at

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the football game the other day. Yeah, so he was

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telling me that he listened to our Weird Al Yankovic episode. Yes,

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and he said when he was a young boy on

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Sunday nights, when his parents and family would go to

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eat after church, he would leave dinner early to go

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sit in his car so he could listen to the

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Doctor Demento show. Wow, I know right, I didn't even

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know that that was a thing.

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Speaker 2: So was he prohibited from listening to it by his

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extra religious parent.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it was super high on their priority list.

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But so little JJ out in the car listening to

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Doctor Demento. I thought that was pretty funny. And then

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I got one more story for you, and then we

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could jump into stranger things. Okay, So my good friends

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Jeff and Shurry Gilliland, and they're my football buddies, Like

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we go to our son's football games and we sit

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together and we you know, talk about the game or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Jeff has become my poker budd Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. So so he was sitting there and he

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said he was sitting in his house one day and

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he's like, hey, that's Colvin's voice coming from inside my house.

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and he followed it to his bathroom where his wife

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was taking a shower. He's like, what is Jason's voice

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coming from inside my bathroom? So, anyway, I thought that

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was just a funny story. Anyway, so the Gillilands have

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started listening, and so shout out to Jeff.

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Speaker 1: And Sherry good friends of ours. Thanks you guys.

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Speaker 1: Whack it? Like it.

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Speaker 3: All right, So we're ready to jump into stranger things.

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Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's jump into stranger things. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So the first song in this episode comes from New Order,

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which is a perfect transition from our last song that

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we talked about with Joy Division in our last episode,

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because now we've got the guys who are in Joy Division,

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right except for Ian Curtis, who have come together and

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decided to form this new band, and so it transitions

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nicely into the first song in this episode. This song

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is called Elegia. It comes in at the very beginning

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when they're having the memorial service for Will and then

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goes right into the opening credits.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it sets the tone for what you're seeing on

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the screen. This is you know, this is great at

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setting the tone.

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Speaker 2: It's perfect, it's haunting, it's beautiful. Just like the Joy

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Division songs. They've really got that post punk thing going,

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which if you listen to our last one, or if

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you're familiar with the Joy Division, you know that the

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guys who were left over after Ian Curtis committed suicide

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the day before they were supposed to leave for their

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big United States tour.

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Speaker 1: That's right. They decided, Hey, we're going to.

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Speaker 2: Get together anyway, and we're going to pick a new

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lead singer and we're going to continue. But they had

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made a promise to themselves that they would not keep

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the name Joy Division if any member of the band

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left for any reason, and so they had to decide

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on a new name. So they decided, Hey, we're going

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Speaker 1: We're going to do the tour even though Ian Curtis

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isn't with us.

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Speaker 2: We're going to figure out who's going to sing, and

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we're going to have to figure out a new name.

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And their manager, Rob Grettin, was looking at The Guardian,

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this magazine, and he came across an article that was

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called The People's New Order of Campuccia, which is it's Cambodia, okay, right,

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But he saw that title and he was like, new Order,

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New Order, I think that's the perfect name for this band.

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it's stuck. Now they're without their lead singer and so

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do what they did, which is nominated new guy from

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the band to start singing the songs. Okay, so the

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remaining members of the band were Bernard Sumner, Peter Hooks

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name you love very much?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Captain hook and Peter Pan had a baby.

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Speaker 2: And Steven Morris. And Steven Morris had a girlfriend who

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had joined them on stage previously. She played the keyboards,

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and so they decided, you know what, we need a

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new member of the band. Let's bring her on. They

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didn't have her become the lead singer. They nominated Bernard Sumner,

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and so Bernard Sumner is the lead singer.

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Speaker 1: Of New Order.

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Speaker 2: Now, most of our listeners probably know New Order from

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their very famous song Blue Monday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's a great song.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a defining song of the eighties. And

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this band was a big band in the eighties, more

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so in the UK than here, but definitely a mover

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and a shaker as far as the sound of.

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Speaker 1: The eighties goes.

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Speaker 2: But this song that we're going to talk about now

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Speaker 3: That song is called Elegia, and so here's what I

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know about the song. Okay, So there's a single version

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which is four minutes plus or so, right, and then

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the real album version, which is over seventeen minutes long.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow.

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Speaker 3: This song has been featured in a lot of different

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entertainment that you probably have seen or heard. Okay, So

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this song was featured in the Academy Award winning short

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called Moore by Mark Osborne. I know it from the

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film Pretty in Pink, the Molly ringwol movie. Oh okay,

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play it in Pretty Pink?

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Speaker 3: It was in the trailer for the nineteen ninety two

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film Night of the Living Dead Believe it or not. Wow, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: The Crown if you remember that. Yeah, it's you know,

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it's a pretty new show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. By the way, I've got a New Order story

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for you, just real quick. Yeah okay. So New Order

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was a little out of my wheelhouse as a young man,

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but I was out of town. I was in Dallas

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one day. I was at the mall and I'm running

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around and there's a bunch of teenage girls that are

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like in line and going crazy for something. Okay, And

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I'm at the mall and of course a bunch of

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teenage girls catching my eye because because I'm fifteen at

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the time, right in nineteen eighty eight, and I finally

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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Jason, good to see you.

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Speaker 3: I said that line.

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Speaker 1: Go again.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, I'm Jason Cole. How you doing? So No,

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I really didn't go up to him, and I said,

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what is going on here?

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Speaker 1: What you got?

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Speaker 3: They had like papers, they were ready to get autographs,

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all this, all this stuff, and they said New Order

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is here and they're going to be signing autographs.

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Speaker 1: So you've got in line and you got an autograph.

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Speaker 3: From I said, I'm sorry, did you say def Leppard?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm out of here. But at the time, I

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remember that caught my attention because I was ingesting all

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types of MTV and I didn't know who the Order was.

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Speaker 1: Wow, But there you go.

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Speaker 3: That was a little bit prior to when Blue Money

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really broke.

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Speaker 2: So you were like a room away from having met

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these guys and you said, I'm gonna go to.

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Speaker 1: The arcade see you later.

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Speaker 3: Karwdi Champ is calling my name right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's that's what I got for you. Okay,

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did you want to tell your a New Order story

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that you told me this action nooon, Okay, this.

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Speaker 1: Is so wildly inappropriate. I I didn't share it.

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Speaker 3: So this is not your story, my story, not.

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Speaker 1: My story at all. But I was.

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Speaker 2: We we do things, We read, we researched, we watched documentaries.

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One of the documentaries I was watching it was showing

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the guys from New Order in this kind of game

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show where they answer questions about the band, you know,

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like you know, like in the marriage, who's the one

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that gets upset easiest, to the cleanest, all that, but

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it's all the members of the band, right right. So

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they're going through these questions and they're like, okay, who's

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the laziest member of the band? And Peter hook I

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swear without missing a beat, ghosts, it's got to be

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Ian Curtis. This guy hasn't done anything in years. Like,

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oh my god, what whoa dude? Whoa too far?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Everybody was in you know, stunned silence for a second,

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and then everybody just busted up, laughing and shaking their

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heads like you are right now.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, that's horrible.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the next song in this episode is a

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song by Tangerine Dream. Yeah, this is a song called

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Green Desert. We'll play it for you here. Here's the song.

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Very cool song. I love Tangerine Dream. But they've got

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songs sprinkled throughout, and so we'll jump into their story a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit later.

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Speaker 2: Sounds good, okay, And then we just have one more

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song in this episode, okay. It is a song called

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Nocturnal Me by Echo and the Bunnymen. Oh bunny Okay.

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So this song comes in at the end of the episode.

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It's when they're in the woods and it blends right

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into those end titles. Another kind of ambient, creepy sound

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to it. Echo and the Bunny Men is not a

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band that I remember hearing of before they had a

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few videos out on MTV. There were another Liverpool band

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and they had a chance to be big. I mean,

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they had a chance to be really big, but they

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just it just never quite happened for them. But I

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called you after I watched a documentary on him, and

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I said, this was possibly the most boring documentary I've

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ever seen. And I'm not even just talking about music

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biography deck. I mean, like all documentaries, and I've seen

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some pretty boring one.

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Speaker 3: You are yes a consumer of boring documentaries.

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Speaker 1: And this one was the worst.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this was worse than the pulling out the

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projector at ninth grade Civics class. I mean it would

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the band is just not a terribly interesting story with

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this band. But they're from Liverpool, so it was great

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to hear.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Beatles. It sounds just like the Beatles.

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Speaker 3: Yes, here's what I can tell you about the Echo

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and the bunny Man. Okay, this is the complete encyclopedia

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of my knowledge.

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Speaker 1: Echoing the Bunnyman.

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Speaker 3: They have a song on the Lost Boys soundtrack, Strange

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Strange Okay, which I would love to break down the

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Lost Boys soundtrack sometime around Halloween.

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Speaker 1: That sounds great. That's it.

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Speaker 3: Moving right along to one of the biggest two hit

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wonders of the eighties.

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Speaker 2: Before you say another word, yeah, just turn up the

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volume and let's crank it up.

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Speaker 3: That synth line.

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Speaker 2: Man, I was obsessed with this song in the mid eighties.

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Speaker 3: This is a fantastic song.

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Speaker 1: It is it's iconic.

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Speaker 2: It is one of the most memorable, one of the

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most defining songs of that era. This is Sunglasses at

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Night by mister Corey Hard. Here's So this is Corey

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Hart's story is kind of an interesting one. Yeah, he

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had his sister did skating and dance stuff. Yes, and

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she happens to in one of her little shows, she

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meets Tom Jones. Tom Jones, I know it's not unusual.

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And so she's like, hey, my little brother, and I

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mean he's what, he's like eleven, Yeah, he's just a

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little kid. And she's like, my little brother loves to sing.

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I would love it if you and and so he

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comes over and like listens to him singing.

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Speaker 3: Listen. This story is highly suspicious because Tom Jones is

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chasing a girl who's a figure skater. He is sure,

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I'll listen to your little brother, honey, what's pussy cat? Yes,

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of course, yes, I would love to listen to a

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young man. What time should I be a trouse?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: So Corey is so nervous that he can't stand up,

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like his legs are.

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Speaker 1: Shaken too bad?

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Speaker 2: Yes, So he literally performs his song for Tom Jones

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in the living room on his knees.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you know what song you could sang? Tell me

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Ben by Michael Jackson. How about that?

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Speaker 1: It was awesome?

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Speaker 2: And Tom Jones says, I can't help you, but I

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know somebody who can. Yes, And he says, let me

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get your tape and I'm going to send it to

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Paul Anka. And my gosh, Paul Ank is like, dude,

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this kid's talented. Let's see what we could do. Yeah,

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Paul freaking Anka. Yes, the man is a legend.

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely well, I've thought this was interesting. So they

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made some demos with Paul Anka. Didn't really go anywhere,

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but Corey Hart still had his dream right right, and

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so here's what he did. I thought this was fantastic.

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Billy Joe and his band are coming to where Corey

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Hart grew up, and he says, you know what, Billy

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Joel's in town. I want to make sure they have

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a demo tape of me singing.

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Speaker 1: He's seventeen years old.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So he looks it, looks up their address, like

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their publishing address, and he writes a letter and sends

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a demo tape to each member of the band. You know,

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dear mister Joel, you know, here is my demo tape.

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Please listen to it. And so he sends it and

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he hears back from.

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Speaker 1: The saxophone player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the saxophone player his name is Richie Kanata, and

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he contacts him and says, your tape's great, let's make

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demos together, and gets him a record deal. So his

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first album is called First Defense. This comes out in

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nineteen eighty three. Okay, this is just a few short

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years after contacting Billy Joel. So on this album, he

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has already completed the whole album. He's recorded every song

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on the album, and he's kind of fiddling with this

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demo that he had from a few years ago called

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My Cigarette Got Wet. And he said this is because

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he's never smoked in his life, but he had this

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song in his head called my Cigarette Got Wet, and

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he's like, it's just not really clicking for me, right.

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But he's in the studio and he's.

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Speaker 1: Playing with it.

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Speaker 3: And he recorded the album in Manchester and it rained

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the entire time, but he had just bought some brand

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new ray Band sunglasses. I have actually heard two stories

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on this, and so he's like, it's raining the entire time,

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but I really want to wear these new sunglasses, so

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I guess I'll just have to wear them at night.

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Sott and I also heard another story where the producer

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said that the air conditioning was blown in their faces,

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so everybody had their sunglasses on to protect their eyes.

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Either way, it's a great story. But Corey Hart takes

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those words sunglasses at Night, puts them in the song

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when Cigarette Got Wet, and it like boom, instant hit.

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Speaker 1: Right. But he's back in Canada at this point.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's right. He had already completed the album. Yeah,

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totally done, and he contacts his producer and said, hey, man,

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I go, I go one more and I really think

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it's good. And to their credit, they're like, okay, let's

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do this. You know, I mean it's undeniable.

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Speaker 1: You don't. You don't hear this song and go it's okay.

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It grabs you. This is one of those songs that

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just grabs you by the testicles.

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Speaker 3: Right, exactly exactly. So this song is released January twenty first,

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nineteen eighty four. It reaches number seven in September of

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eighty four. David Right and I have gone round and

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round about the best year in music for the eighties,

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and we pretty much basically agree that it's nineteen eighty four.

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So listen to this murderer's Row of top ten. When

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you say, okay, seven that's pretty good. It's not great, No,

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it's great.

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Speaker 1: With this competition, let's say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say because with this song I

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would have expected higher than seven.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's an iconic haay song, right, what beats it?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So Number ten this week in September of eighty four

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is if Ever You're in My Arms Again?

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, set that one to the side. Okay, all right,

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all right?

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Speaker 3: Number nine if this is it by Huey Lewis and

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the News, Okay, sure, yes. Number eight Let's Go Crazy

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by Prince obviously, right, seven is Sunglasses at Night. Six

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is she Bop by Cyndi Lauper.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one we hope to cover this coming year.

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Speaker 3: Right. Number five is when Doves Cry? Okay, I mean

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massive song which has the same story, right, same story.

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It was absolutely a last second edition to Purple Ring.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, you really need to put this in. We're done.

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Could you listen to it? Okay, we'll put that in.

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Speaker 3: That's really great. We think it's a hit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Number four Ghostbusters obviously. Number three Stuck on You by

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Lionel Richie. Okay, yeah, another song we hope to cover.

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Number two, Missing You by John Waite.

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Speaker 1: Didn't you call this song like.

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Speaker 3: The worst song of the eighties? Yes?

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Speaker 1: What did you call this song?

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Speaker 2: It was like the biggest woosfest?

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Speaker 1: Remember what it was? But it was classic.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I can't remember exactly, but I am not a fan.

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Speaker 1: Of this song. All right, Okay, you go.

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Speaker 3: And then finally at number one this week, What's love

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got to do with it? Tina Turner's comeback? I mean,

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come on, I mean, I mean, what are we talking about?

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Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine that all of those songs

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were out at the same time, in a day, in

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an age where Taylor Swift has every single song on

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the top ten of the Billboard Hot one hundred, imagine

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a time where you had that many artists putting out

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that many high qualities streaking great songs kept this song

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at number seven. It's crazy, Yeah it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So listen to this. I got just a couple

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more tidbits on this.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So the video won the Juno for Video of the

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Year in Canada. Yeah, okay, Juno is like the Canadian

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Music Award.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: He said he didn't even own a suit handed bar

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Rick Springfield suit when he went to the deal. He's

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wearing rick Springfield suit.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna wish I had Ricky.

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Speaker 3: So this is a huge, huge song. So it reaches

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number seven, which is funny because you think of this

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as Coreyhart's biggest hit. It's not Never Surrender reached number

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three in eighty five.

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Speaker 1: It had to, but I mean that has to have

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been because of this song. Yeah, just I mean, yeah, it.

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Speaker 2: Didn't have these this great song too, super songs to

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compete against.

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Speaker 3: Right. In nineteen eighty five, he declined the role of

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wait for It, Marty McFly in Back to the Future.

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Speaker 1: Wow. I don't remember him being on your list. He

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was on the list wow for Marty McFly. Okay.

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Speaker 3: He also was one of the guys offered to sing

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danger Zone in Top Gun. I do remember that, go

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back to our Top Gun soundtrack episode. Yeah, and later

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on in his life he's stepped away from all this

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because he had children.

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Speaker 1: Decided he wanted to be a dad.

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Speaker 2: His dad was not around when he was a kid,

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and he's like, and he taught me a good lesson.

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Speaker 1: Want to repeat? Yeah, And so yeah, He's done a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of producing, has produced Celine Dion song, several others, and

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it was funny. In the interview, I was why and

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he was talking about that moment, you know, where the

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women are mobbing the car and you get a little

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nervous and the interviewer is like, yeah, I was talking

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to one of the guys from New Direction and he

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was talking about how scary and a nerving that can be.

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And Corey Hart was like, well, if you don't want

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to be a farmer, don't work on the farmer.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 3: Well, listen to this. So this I thought was a

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great story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He flew into Miami with his daughter Yea, and they're

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on the bus with everybody else going from the terminal

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to the parking lot.

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Speaker 1: Right tennis his kids play tennis, okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And Sunglasses at the Height comes on the radio. Yeah,

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And he's standing there amid all these people listening to

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the song and he notices people are singing, people are

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tapping their feet, and he makes that contact with his

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00:21:42,599 --> 00:21:45,359
daughter and it's just kind of the shared smirk of

475
00:21:46,519 --> 00:21:50,160
check it out. I was once really awesome, you know. Yeah,

476
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,119
And he says he never gets tired of it. The

477
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,599
song has done wonders for him and it's just a

478
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,160
great song.

479
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 1: And you know, it's a great moment.

480
00:21:56,759 --> 00:21:58,759
Speaker 2: I gotta say, I had never listened to an interview

481
00:21:58,799 --> 00:22:01,400
with him before, but he seen was like a genuine

482
00:22:01,559 --> 00:22:04,200
down to earth, very cool guy.

483
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:05,039
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.

484
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 3: Okay, So that does it for sunglasses at night?

485
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 2: Yes, So broms a Lula By shows back up in

486
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,039
this episode. Go back and check out episode so out.

487
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,079
Go back and check out episode three.

488
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,039
Speaker 1: Whatever. Yeah, all right.

489
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 2: And then at the outdoor supply store when Nancy and

490
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:27,519
Jonathan are stocking up, Yep, we've got the song by

491
00:22:27,559 --> 00:22:32,400
the one the only Dolly Parton called the Bartner Store.

492
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,039
Speaker 1: My life is like in to a bug in store.

493
00:22:45,839 --> 00:22:48,400
I may have just what you're looking for.

494
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,319
Speaker 3: She's been called the leading Lady of Country, the Smoky

495
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,200
Mountain Songbird, and the Backwoods Barbie So. She was born

496
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,400
January of nineteen forty six and Locustridge, Tennessee, in a

497
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,880
family of twelve kids. She said, there are so many

498
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,480
kids her parents couldn't watch them. So the older kids

499
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,599
were like assigned a child, like this is your baby

500
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,880
to watch over? Yes, so her baby died.

501
00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: While she was in charge. Oh my god, which is you.

502
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 3: Know, an impactful thing in her life? Yeah, so she

503
00:23:19,079 --> 00:23:21,799
was on the Castwalk or Farm and Home Hour at

504
00:23:21,839 --> 00:23:24,720
ten years old. At thirteen, she made it to the

505
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,960
Grand Old Opry. Now then she started on the Porter

506
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,519
Wagner Show. Okkay, Yeah, you ever heard of Porter Wagner?

507
00:23:31,599 --> 00:23:32,279
Speaker 1: Yes? Okay.

508
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 3: So this is one of those times in her life

509
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,640
where like she explodes with her writing. She wrote so

510
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,759
many songs. She says, she ran out of paper. She

511
00:23:39,839 --> 00:23:41,960
wrote the cod of minic Colors on the back of

512
00:23:42,039 --> 00:23:44,640
one of his dry cleaning tickets, and so, and of

513
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,519
course she's the star of the show, and it's it's

514
00:23:46,519 --> 00:23:48,839
one of those things where it's the Porter Wagner Show,

515
00:23:49,519 --> 00:23:52,000
but the real talent is Dolly Parton, Right, So she

516
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,279
decides one day that she's going to leave the show,

517
00:23:54,319 --> 00:23:55,920
and she knows it's going to crush it and it's

518
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,680
probably going to be the end of the show. And

519
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,440
so she, in her own way, writes a lot note

520
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,000
to him so that she can leave.

521
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: Do you know this story?

522
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 3: Okay, So she tells him, Hey, I want you to

523
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,200
come in here. I want you to sit down. She

524
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,720
grabs her guitar and she plays I will always love

525
00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:13,559
you be fin.

526
00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: Shoot stay, I would only be in you Sam, but

527
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:47,039
I know I'll think of you each step off the way, Willow.

528
00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 3: And that was her quote unquote resignation from the show.

529
00:25:04,279 --> 00:25:07,960
Oh wow, Now there were some hurt feelings. He did

530
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,079
sue her. Okay, he didn't let her go that easily.

531
00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:15,039
But of course we know the success of that song.

532
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Casey and Avery were literally watching it two nights ago.

533
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean in the nineties, you couldn't get

534
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:21,359
away from you.

535
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were watching the Bodyguard. Yes, right, but.

536
00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 3: They made amends and she was actually at his bedside

537
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,759
when he passed away.

538
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: That's good.

539
00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 3: Since then, she has earned twenty five number one songs,

540
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,720
twenty five gold, platinum and multi platinum records, nine Grammys,

541
00:25:35,759 --> 00:25:39,400
three Amas, two Oscar nominations. She's one of the few

542
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,599
people in the world who's been nominated for an Emmy,

543
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,720
a Grammy, an Oscar, and a Tony some.

544
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:44,039
Speaker 1: Of the things.

545
00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:45,839
Speaker 3: You may have seen her in nine to five Steel

546
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,640
Magnolia's Best Little Horass in Texas. She did Islands in

547
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,640
the Stream with Kenny Rogers in nineteen eighty three. I

548
00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:54,319
went to Dollywood last summer. It was fantastic.

549
00:25:54,759 --> 00:25:57,759
Speaker 2: Okay, let me just say this, So we've talked in

550
00:25:57,799 --> 00:26:00,880
the past about doing nine to five against mister mom

551
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,960
is just one of the reversal. Yeah, yos right, And

552
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,680
so I don't remember why or what caused me to

553
00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:11,960
kind of peruse IMDb on Dolly Parton and ninety five.

554
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,599
Maybe it was that, who knows sure, But this piece

555
00:26:14,599 --> 00:26:16,599
of information is just in my head, so I'm going

556
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:17,440
to share it with Let's go.

557
00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: There was a TV series after the movie ninety five

558
00:26:20,599 --> 00:26:22,319
called ninety five. H huh.

559
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: It had a very buxom blonde woman in the part

560
00:26:26,319 --> 00:26:27,759
of Dolly Parton's part.

561
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: Right, it was her sister.

562
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: What I I literally, I'm like, I can't find anything else. Oh,

563
00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:37,960
she's actually been in something with Dolly Parton. Oh my gosh,

564
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,440
it's her sister.

565
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,559
Speaker 1: No way, Yes, that's fantastic.

566
00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:42,839
Speaker 2: And since this is just out of my head, I

567
00:26:42,839 --> 00:26:44,599
can't tell you what her name is, but I can

568
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,400
tell you TV series Dolly Parton's sister played people wanting

569
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:48,720
to say.

570
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 3: Joeline, but I know it's not Juline. It's uh Dorley,

571
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,440
Dorley Dorley. Ye. Now, then I've gotta tell you just

572
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,559
a couple of nuggets on the song.

573
00:26:56,599 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so this song is called the bargain Store came

574
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,599
out January nineteen seventy five. Yes, it is a metaphor.

575
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,599
The secondhand merchandise at the store is like a woman

576
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,799
who has been mistreated by a husband. Sure, but it

577
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,920
turns out that a lot of the country stations would

578
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,920
not play the song because there's a line that says

579
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,000
you can easily afford the price, and they thought that

580
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,640
was a reference to prostitution. So nineteen seventy five country

581
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,839
music stations are pretty conservative and they're like, nop, we're

582
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,200
not playing this garbage.

583
00:27:29,599 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 3: You whrror yeah, you hussye yeah. And I mean, come on,

584
00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:37,960
Dolly's pretty pretty innocent. I mean, she's pretty whole.

585
00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:38,599
Speaker 1: Abs is.

586
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: It's just that she's built like she's built, and so

587
00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:43,079
every mind is going.

588
00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: To go to that direction.

589
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,079
Speaker 3: She's got a bid for sin.

590
00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I.

591
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 2: Mean, how disappointed were you when you got done with

592
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,359
the best little whorehouse in Texas and realized there was

593
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:51,799
no skin?

594
00:27:54,839 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 3: Yes, hey, throw back to our Thing episode where Kurt

595
00:27:58,279 --> 00:28:00,400
Russell and John carbon Are pulled up and it was

596
00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:04,039
welcome Dolly Varden and Burt Reynolds. So you're absolutely right.

597
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,759
Country music stations at the time were uncomfortable with it,

598
00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:09,359
even though she swears there's nothing naughty about the song

599
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,480
at all, just a metaphor for a broken woman. Right now. Then,

600
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:17,000
this was the fourth consecutive number one song by Dolly Barton.

601
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,839
Speaker 1: Okay, wow, okay, I.

602
00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 3: Thought this was kind of cool. Yeah, four singles in

603
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,240
a row hit number one. I bet you you could

604
00:28:23,319 --> 00:28:25,440
name two of the three previous.

605
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: Well, you have love is like a butterfly.

606
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,279
Speaker 3: Yes, you're cheating.

607
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,039
Speaker 1: You have the song that you mentioned, Yes, I will

608
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:34,799
always love you. Yes, But I don't know what that

609
00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:35,319
third one is.

610
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,279
Speaker 2: Jolene, Jolene, so that I can another bit of information

611
00:28:39,359 --> 00:28:41,160
that's rattling around in my head. I don't know how

612
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,200
this came up, but I watched the video where she's

613
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,440
performing live and she's there's a real Joline.

614
00:28:46,599 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: I had no idea.

615
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 3: Really.

616
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:48,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

617
00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: She said that there was a bank teller at the

618
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,000
bank who was putting the moves on her husband and

619
00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:57,720
she was an actual redhead. Really, that is the Yeah,

620
00:28:57,759 --> 00:28:59,599
that's the inspiration about Tolene.

621
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: Life.

622
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,119
Speaker 3: Will just randomly start singing Jolene. By the way, Oh, well,

623
00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:04,680
me too.

624
00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: And she went out and had a talking with this girl,

625
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,319
did she Yeah, she didn't threaten to, you know, turn

626
00:29:13,359 --> 00:29:14,640
her from a rooster into her hand.

627
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,039
Speaker 1: She gave her talking to and said, that's enough of that.

628
00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:19,640
That's interesting. Yeah, okay.

629
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,759
Speaker 3: By the way, in nineteen seventy five, she won the

630
00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:23,559
Country Music Female Vocalist.

631
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: Of the Year.

632
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,279
Speaker 3: And in twenty nineteen, this is how talented this woman is.

633
00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:27,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

634
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: Dolly Parton's America was called the best podcast of twenty

635
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,200
nineteen by Forbes. Wow, so Ammy, Grammy, Oscar Tony and

636
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,920
now the best podcast in America.

637
00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:41,759
Speaker 1: Well, she's pretty awesome. I mean, there's just no doubt

638
00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:42,160
about that.

639
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's good as the Shirley Podcast,

640
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:51,039
but right, okay, that's it for me on the bargain Store.

641
00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:53,759
Speaker 2: All right, there's one more song in this episode. It

642
00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:57,000
comes when Jonathan and Steve are having their fight in

643
00:29:57,039 --> 00:30:00,680
the alleyway, and the song is another Tangerine Dream song.

644
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:04,519
This one is called Exit Again Tangerine Dream. We're gonna

645
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:07,119
talk about them soon. They have the first song on

646
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,799
our next episode. They have a song in the last

647
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,160
episode of the show, and so when we get there,

648
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,640
we will talk about Tangerine Dream at that time.

649
00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:17,079
Speaker 1: But this is guys.

650
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:19,039
Speaker 2: If you don't know Tangerine Dream. If this is not

651
00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:22,039
a name that's familiar to you, if you know Risky Business.

652
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:24,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know that scene, yeah, called love on

653
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:25,279
a Real Train.

654
00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: That is the song that's playing, and it is on

655
00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:31,440
my Spotify, it is on my Apple Music. That is

656
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:36,400
a killer song for you know the make Out List

657
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,680
mixtape of nineteen eighty three. Yeah, yeah, okay, So that

658
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,319
brings us to episode seven, okay, And we have Fields

659
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:49,119
of Choral as our first song, and this is by

660
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,200
Van Gelis, who we talked about in our later in

661
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:53,839
our episode.

662
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 3: The first time I watched Stranger Things and I'm watching

663
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,359
it with my kids, I'm always plating out things like, oh,

664
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,440
that's from Nightmare and Elstraight, Oh that's from E t

665
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,279
Oh that's from Close Encounters. When the theme song comes on,

666
00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:05,160
the first thing that came in my brain, I'm like,

667
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,000
that's Blade Runner.

668
00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:09,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Tangerine Dream, Van Gelis, all of those

669
00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:12,240
guys who are doing that ambient Brian Eno, all of

670
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,160
those guys who are doing that kind of ambient sound

671
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,119
joy Division, right, we order that is the sound that

672
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,480
they were going after in this episode. And as you've mentioned,

673
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,400
not only did they take that music from the past,

674
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:27,359
but they also with their composers Michael Stein and Kyle Dixon, Yeah,

675
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,440
they have recreated some ambient style of music to go

676
00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:34,079
along with that as well. We will talk about those

677
00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:37,519
guys shortly, but they are the composers of the music

678
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:39,559
that you're talking about, the theme music, right, as well

679
00:31:39,599 --> 00:31:42,880
as all of the backing music for the scenes throughout

680
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,319
the show.

681
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: Sure.

682
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,279
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm gonna go ahead and just drop

683
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:46,720
this nugget on Vangelis if.

684
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,559
Speaker 1: You don't know who he is.

685
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: He had a number one hit in nineteen eighty one

686
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,319
that was an instrumental Yeah, almost no songs in the

687
00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:57,160
eighties were instrumental number one hits, but this one was,

688
00:31:57,279 --> 00:31:58,359
and you absolutely know it.

689
00:31:58,359 --> 00:31:59,359
Speaker 1: It's called Jerid's Fire.

690
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: You could not avoid this song in the early eighties,

691
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:05,839
like it was everywhere, and it's beautiful. It doesn't get old.

692
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,279
It's fantastic. And I remember seeing the video for it.

693
00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:12,119
I mean it's literally him sitting at a keyboard, like

694
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,640
not even doing anything except smoking a cigarette. Like he's

695
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,200
black and white.

696
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:17,079
Speaker 1: He's just bored.

697
00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:23,359
Speaker 2: He looks bored smoking a cigarette, and it's like, wait,

698
00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:24,240
take a drag.

699
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, come on, dude, put that on MTV.

700
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was. He said it in he said

701
00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:32,960
it in interviews.

702
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,799
Speaker 2: He's like, I did this stuff for Hollywood because not

703
00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:39,240
that I wanted to be famous. I just wanted to

704
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:40,640
have the money to be able to do what I

705
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,880
want to do, Okay, And so that was really his

706
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,119
impetus to go do these amazing things, was that financially

707
00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:48,839
paid for him to do the more creative thing.

708
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,079
Speaker 1: Nobody really listens to make sense.

709
00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:53,319
Speaker 2: If you want the full story on Ben Gellis, go

710
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,559
back and check out our Blade Runner versus the Thing

711
00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:59,480
versus Et episode from earlier.

712
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: This year, June of eighty two. That was something beautiful.

713
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:03,079
It was something else. I'll tell you that.

714
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,599
Speaker 2: This song from Van Gallis is called Fields of Choral.

715
00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:09,359
It comes up two times in the episode. First time

716
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,720
is at the Buyer's house where Hopper, Joyce, Jonathan, and

717
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:16,880
Nancy are talking to Mike, Dustin and Lucas and eleven.

718
00:33:17,119 --> 00:33:19,599
And it comes in again a little bit later on

719
00:33:20,079 --> 00:33:22,880
at mister Clark's classroom and the gymnasium.

720
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, the other song, this.

721
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,839
Speaker 2: Is the only fully formed song that comes up in

722
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,240
this episode. The other song that comes up. We've mentioned

723
00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:34,039
several times in the past, but it's not sung by

724
00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:36,359
the band, it's sung by Noah.

725
00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:36,599
Speaker 3: What.

726
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Will Byers is stuck in the upside down?

727
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,839
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right, answer.

728
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: He's latched onto this song. And that's the reason that

729
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:48,359
we keep hearing it throughout the season is it was

730
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,319
this meaningful moment between him and Jonathan where they listened

731
00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:53,599
to it on the radio and Jonathan's talking to him

732
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,119
about how the clash is anti establishment and not like

733
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,640
your mainstream radio and they have this moment which is

734
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:03,640
a little bit weird because this song came out like

735
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,720
in eighty three, and so if this is supposed to

736
00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:08,920
be taking place in November of eighty three, I'm not

737
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,519
really sure how Jonathan was that in tune with everything,

738
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,599
but we give them a little pass. Okay, sure, I

739
00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:17,840
mean Sunglasses at Night wasn't out until the next year,

740
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,880
So yeah, all right, that Steve's listening to it.

741
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: In the car right.

742
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:26,199
Speaker 2: So anyway, in the show, Will Weyers is singing this song.

743
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,639
It's a pretty impressive moment in the show, and the

744
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,760
name of the song is should I Stay or Should

745
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:41,320
I Get Me?

746
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: No?

747
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 3: Should I Stay?

748
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,079
Speaker 1: Oh? Should I go.

749
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: If you say, now, the Clash was this amazing band,

750
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,480
very influential. I will say this, Okay, we've talked about

751
00:34:56,599 --> 00:34:59,639
a little bit about doing sex Pistols versus the Clash,

752
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,239
you know, sure, as the two kind of main punk bands,

753
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,679
the most well known punk bands of the early eighties, right,

754
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,760
And from what I've learned about them, basically it sounds

755
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,559
like the sex Pistols pushed the ball to the top

756
00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:15,280
of the hill, and the Clash pushed it all the

757
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,559
way down and back up the next hill. They took

758
00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:20,760
punk and over the course of their career, made it

759
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,079
into something new and exciting and more radio friendly than

760
00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:27,840
the sex Pistols had ever done. But it was not

761
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:32,239
because they went commercial. It was because they became better musicians,

762
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:37,079
and they kept on insisting that they keep things unpolished

763
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,239
and cool, but they.

764
00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:40,119
Speaker 1: Were making better music.

765
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 2: And this is basically the pinnacle. This is the top

766
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,199
of that hill, right. This song kicks so much butt.

767
00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:50,000
Absolutely Okay, So instead of going into their whole history,

768
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:51,480
I think I'm going to save that for when we

769
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:53,880
do a full episode on these guys. All right, sure,

770
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,719
but what we need to know is that the most

771
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,880
well known version of the Clash included the vocalist and

772
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,760
guitarist Joe Strummer. Okay, he's usually the guy you saw singing,

773
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,719
the lead guitarist and occasional vocalist Mick Jones, the bassist

774
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:15,840
Paul Simeon, the drummer Nicky Topper Keaton, and he wasn't

775
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,519
around for the whole time either. Okay, normally you saw

776
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:22,199
Joe singing, but in this particular song, Mick is the

777
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,599
guy that's singing. And so, as it turns out, shortly

778
00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:29,119
after this song came out, he left the band, right well,

779
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:31,599
and so a lot of people were like, Hey, is

780
00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:35,920
this some sort of hidden message of I'm really about

781
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,599
ready to go? Should I stay?

782
00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: No?

783
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 1: Should I go? Yes? Right? But then there's also this

784
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,920
rumor that's floating around about his then girlfriend. Yeah, tell

785
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:46,440
the story.

786
00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 3: Well, here's what I know. His then girlfriend was Ellen Foley. Yeah,

787
00:36:51,000 --> 00:37:00,719
she sings on Paradise by the dashboard Light by Meetloaf.

788
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,719
So she's the one that's like, what's gonna be Boy? Yeah,

789
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:09,599
I can wait all night.

790
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: Everybody's heard her voice, What's gonna be Boy?

791
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,599
Speaker 2: Right? She's cute like she was doing lots of shows

792
00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:17,800
then too. Yeah, had her own close to fame moments.

793
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 3: By the way, in the Meatlow video, the girl who's

794
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,719
singing in the video, yeah is actually lip syncing Ellen

795
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:24,920
Foley's vocals.

796
00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:27,039
Speaker 1: Wow, she's not the actual singer. Okay.

797
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 3: So anyway, she had a relationship with Nick Jones.

798
00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, she had met them.

799
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: She was going to check out a venue that she

800
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:36,639
was going to perform at in a couple of days,

801
00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:39,840
and they happened to be performing there, and she met

802
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,119
Mick Jones and the googly eyes started and they parted

803
00:37:44,159 --> 00:37:46,599
ways and then came back and got together, and there

804
00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:48,559
was definitely a romance that was going on there.

805
00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

806
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:52,079
Speaker 2: So a lot of people think that this song is

807
00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:57,159
about that particular romance, right. Yes, now he is denied it, right,

808
00:37:57,559 --> 00:38:00,760
but I was listening to an interview with her and

809
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,000
she's like, I'm not here to confirm it or did

810
00:38:03,079 --> 00:38:05,159
I didn't write the song, but I'll tell you this.

811
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,079
A little while back, I got a check in the

812
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:13,400
mail for ten thousand dollars and I called the company

813
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,920
and I'm like, why why am I getting this check?

814
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,440
And they're like, well, this is for should I stay

815
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,639
or should I go? And she's like, well, I sang

816
00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:23,039
back up on a different song and they're like, oh, yeah,

817
00:38:23,079 --> 00:38:25,639
we know about that, but this is this is because

818
00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:28,719
the song is about you. And she goes, I'm sorry,

819
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,079
how do you know it's about me? And they said, well,

820
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:33,480
we write it on Wikipedia.

821
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 3: I'm going to Wikipedia and writing that this song is

822
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:36,800
about me.

823
00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: Right, And she says, okay, they you guess. I'll keep

824
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,440
the money. And she says she continues to get checks

825
00:38:44,559 --> 00:38:46,880
to this day. They're not ten thousand dollars checks, but

826
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,280
she continues to get royalty checks. I bet they've got

827
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,000
a bump after this, after Stranger Things came out Luly

828
00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:56,119
and then the other The other thing about the song,

829
00:38:56,159 --> 00:38:59,079
it's interesting is that the it didn't hit the top

830
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:01,320
forty when it came out out forty.

831
00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: Five is where it topped out.

832
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: It was, yeah, that's crazy to me, that is absolutely crazy.

833
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,920
And they re released the single in a few different

834
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,880
ways and it just never did hit the big charts

835
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:18,039
until nineteen ninety one and there was a Levi's commercial. Now,

836
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:21,119
these guys I mentioned, they wouldn't do commercial stuff right,

837
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:24,280
They didn't want to be anything other than true to themselves.

838
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,639
They stuck it out right right, just to give you

839
00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:31,000
a little story about that. Right, So just before they

840
00:39:31,199 --> 00:39:33,519
did London calling, like when they're in the studio and

841
00:39:33,559 --> 00:39:36,320
they're trying to put it together. They need funding. They've

842
00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:39,280
fired their managers who sued them, you know, and they're

843
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,760
trying to get money, and so they've got these executive

844
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,159
guys who come over and are supposed to watch them

845
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:48,679
to decide whether do I want to invest or not. Well,

846
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,280
they just happen to come over at the time that

847
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,079
every day these guys break and go out into the

848
00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:57,880
park and play what we call soccer, play football with

849
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,159
each other. Sure, and this is no hold football. This

850
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,360
is like like their road manager was like, this was

851
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,599
my opportunity. When I was mad at them for whatever

852
00:40:06,599 --> 00:40:08,239
they were doing, I could take it out on them

853
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,840
on the football field, right, I'd.

854
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: Let them have it.

855
00:40:10,519 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 2: And so these executives show up right before they're about

856
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,159
to go play football. Do they stop and say, okay,

857
00:40:16,159 --> 00:40:18,400
well we'll play our music for you. No, they say, hey,

858
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,599
we're going out to play football. You want to go?

859
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,639
And these guys are in leather shoes and sport coaches

860
00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:27,199
and they don't want to be embarrassed, so they say, sure,

861
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,719
sure can I take off their coats and they got

862
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,800
and he said, the band whooped these guys back and

863
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,760
forth all the I mean like shouted in their face,

864
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,800
just you know, all over them.

865
00:40:40,119 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: And of course they got pill will they will be double.

866
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 3: So of course they did. Yeah, of course they did.

867
00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:53,119
Speaker 1: So that's who they are.

868
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 2: Then, you know, nineteen ninety one, ten years after all

869
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,519
or more, after all of this has happened, they get

870
00:40:59,559 --> 00:41:01,920
a call from Levi's that says, hey, we want to

871
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,440
use your song in this video. So they asked Mick,

872
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,199
because he's the guy that wrote the song, what do

873
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,519
you think, And he said, you know what, Levi's was

874
00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:11,559
a part of what we were. They wanted to look

875
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:15,920
good on stage without looking you know, try yeah, right,

876
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,599
so they they do. They look cool up on stage,

877
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,840
but part of that cool look was the Levi's look,

878
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,400
and so he said, yeah, okay, go for it. And

879
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,840
when that happened, it was re released in the UK

880
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:28,559
and that's when it did its best.

881
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 3: On the charts, number one. It hit number one in

882
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,280
the UK after that. Levis Kruschel, by the way, I

883
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,000
watched that Levi's commercial.

884
00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:36,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good commercial.

885
00:41:36,519 --> 00:41:39,599
Speaker 3: There's basically a young guy model walks in. He plays

886
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:42,440
an older guy playing pool, and the guy wants to

887
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,320
play him for his Levi's yeah, and the guy and

888
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,239
Levi's wins, and he thinks the other guy take off

889
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,079
his back, so alrighty while the hot girl is, you know,

890
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,559
watching right, I just want to drop this bomb on

891
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:55,519
you now. They played the US Festival. We've talked about

892
00:41:55,559 --> 00:41:58,199
the US Festival many times. Yeah, so they're they're they're

893
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:05,000
like hardcore socialist, extreme left wing, non commercial, give all

894
00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:07,840
your money away type of guys. Right, But when they

895
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,400
went to the US Festival, they put on the big

896
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,079
screen behind him and the like projected it the check

897
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:16,079
that they received from the US Festival. Were playing like,

898
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,119
here's our check. How unrock and roll is this? There's

899
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:19,639
our check.

900
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 2: This was the same show that Van Halen got paid

901
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,079
more money per minute than any other band had ever

902
00:42:28,119 --> 00:42:30,199
gotten paid in history. Yep, for an hour and a

903
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,119
half long show. And I've talked to folks that were there.

904
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,000
They sucked. Oh really, Dave was drunk out of his mind,

905
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:39,920
like the show was terrible. What I've heard is Judas

906
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,039
Priest was the best show at the s Festival nineteen eighty.

907
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:45,119
Speaker 3: I think we talked about how in Excess was really

908
00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:46,960
really good at the the S Festival.

909
00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in so many bands, Motley Crue, yep,

910
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,199
they all thought they were terrible. They were like, oh,

911
00:42:52,199 --> 00:42:55,239
we're terrible, but their managers at the time pointed out,

912
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,480
you know what didn't matter. The crowd loved you, and

913
00:42:57,559 --> 00:43:00,400
that was that was the key. But US Festival, I'm

914
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,960
so glad it comes up again.

915
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 3: I know, right, it just keeps coming up. Yeah, I

916
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,559
got one more tidbit on this song, okay before we

917
00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:07,159
bounce off of it.

918
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

919
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,039
Speaker 3: So in the middle of the song, you'll notice that

920
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:13,679
they're echoing the lyrics in Spanish. Yeah that you know,

921
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,679
they're playing around in the studio and they're like, I

922
00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:17,360
really think there needs to be something right here.

923
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:19,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. Joe's the one that was like, let's do this

924
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:20,159
in Spanish.

925
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they're like, do you speak Spanish? And Guy's like, well,

926
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,679
I kind of speak a little text mex And so

927
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,519
they kind of passed it around. He okay, who can translate?

928
00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:31,480
Who can help us out with this? So anyway, the

929
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,360
guy called his mom.

930
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy's mom spoke fluent Spanish, so he gives

931
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:41,559
her the lyrics in English, she translates them into Spanish. Now,

932
00:43:41,679 --> 00:43:44,000
I was listening to this song just this week. I

933
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:47,039
just thought it was gibberish, right, And Brock's like, why

934
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:48,360
are they speaking Spanish?

935
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: How did you know this?

936
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:52,559
Speaker 2: Spanish's like, well, I heard, you know, spout it out

937
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:54,079
some sort of Spanish. This is what you get when

938
00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:57,119
you're in high school Spanish for right, exactly. So he

939
00:43:57,639 --> 00:44:00,000
recognized something. But apparently a lot of people were like,

940
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:03,519
what is this strange Spanish? It's Ecuadorian. She's from Ecuador,

941
00:44:03,639 --> 00:44:06,800
so it's Ecuadorian Spanish. There you go, not Mexican Spanish,

942
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,199
like we're used two down here in the South.

943
00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:13,159
Speaker 3: Makes perfect sense. Great song, Yeah, fantastic song and really

944
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,079
one of the pillars of the entire season one of

945
00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:16,760
Stranger Things.

946
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so that brings us to the beginning of

947
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:24,800
the final episode of season one, episode eight, and our

948
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:38,320
final song by Tangerine Dream Horizon. This is the final

949
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,840
song by Tangerine Dream very quick. I love these guys,

950
00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:47,880
they like Vangelis kind of led and pioneered the electronic movement,

951
00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:50,519
and they did a ton of soundtracks in the eighties.

952
00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:53,159
One of my very favorites being that risky business song

953
00:44:53,199 --> 00:44:55,719
that we listened to. Right, they started off and we're

954
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,000
doing sounds like a sequencer before sequencers even existed. And

955
00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:02,760
sequencers are hu huge in the Stranger Things soundtrack, the

956
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,400
way those kind of funky, weird pulses and beats and

957
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,320
stuff like that, that's all through sequencers, which we'll talk

958
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,320
about here in just a second. But they were doing

959
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,239
that type of music before it was even programmable into

960
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:15,199
a sequencer, right.

961
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: And it's hard. I told you, I was like, I

962
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,639
was trying to find a documentary on these guys. They're

963
00:45:19,679 --> 00:45:20,239
all in German.

964
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,599
Speaker 3: A little hard to understand.

965
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:24,199
Speaker 1: Huh, Yes, you.

966
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,039
Speaker 2: Have to brush up with my German ear. But they

967
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,719
not understanding English is probably a part of how they

968
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,079
got their name. It was a misunderstanding of lyrics, and

969
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:34,760
it was a misunderstanding of lyrics and one of the

970
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,719
most misunderstood.

971
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: Songs of all time.

972
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: What Lucy and the Sky with diamonds? Yeah says with

973
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:45,800
tangerine trees and marmalade skies German ears of the time.

974
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,920
I guess heard tangerine dreams.

975
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,079
Speaker 1: Oh that's cool story.

976
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 3: I like that.

977
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: And so that's where they that's where they got their

978
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,239
name again. DJ Peel comes in, Yeah, and they get

979
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,159
signed to Virgin Records, which was just beginning at that

980
00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:02,920
same time early seventies, and then by the eighties they're

981
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:07,159
doing soundtracks and we get all of this amazing ambient,

982
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,360
earthy cool music. So we could go on forever on

983
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,920
Tangerine Dream, but we've got several songs to finish up with,

984
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:16,800
so let us jump real quick. Next song is a

985
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,480
song that's a newer song. This one's by Moby and

986
00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:34,239
it's called when It's Cold I'd Like to Die. Okay,

987
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,639
So if you were around in the nineties, you probably

988
00:46:36,639 --> 00:46:37,320
remember Moby.

989
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's kind of a big deal.

990
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,639
Speaker 3: Even I had heard of Mobi.

991
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 2: Right, you're not into edm but Mobi was big enough

992
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,400
that you were hearing his stuff.

993
00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: He features strongly in the Born series. He's got some

994
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:50,119
great music of.

995
00:46:50,159 --> 00:46:53,639
Speaker 2: The really yeah yeah, I mean you hear that track

996
00:46:53,679 --> 00:46:55,840
that tells you it's porn identity, that's Moby, right.

997
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,039
Speaker 3: They used to play body Rock by Moby before the

998
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,679
football kickoff perfect.

999
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 2: So this song comes off of his album called Everything

1000
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,480
Is Wrong. It was released March of nineteen ninety five,

1001
00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:09,840
and this was not a single on that album. But

1002
00:47:10,559 --> 00:47:12,920
it's been used in a series before this. This was

1003
00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:17,000
used in The Sopranos Okay, and this is one of

1004
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,119
two songs on the album that features vocalist named Mimi Gois.

1005
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,880
This song appeared at the closing credits on the Sopranos

1006
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,599
episode Join the Club, and as we know, is in

1007
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,760
this one several times as Eleven is trying to save

1008
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,400
our friends, they're playing this song over and over again,

1009
00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:39,159
and it comes back up in season four.

1010
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,199
Speaker 1: Really super cool song, really kind of an emotional song.

1011
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,760
Great one to put here, not eighties, not psychedelic rock,

1012
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,320
but cool stuff. Awesome.

1013
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 2: That brings us to the next song, which is Carol

1014
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,360
of the Bells. Everybody knows Carol of the Bells. And

1015
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,159
when you and I were talking before this episode, we're like,

1016
00:47:56,199 --> 00:47:58,480
we're going to hit every single song, right, of course,

1017
00:47:58,559 --> 00:48:00,760
But then I said, if it's got a good story

1018
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,119
to go along with it, then we should definitely cover

1019
00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:05,519
that song, right, And we started looking at Carol of

1020
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:08,719
the Bells and I'm scrolling through stuff and I'm like, wait,

1021
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,039
assassination right exactly?

1022
00:48:11,159 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you want to tell the story.

1023
00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: So Carol of the Bells was originally a Ukrainian folk

1024
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,280
chant called shattiek shattick.

1025
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,159
Speaker 1: Shitty shitdik shittik, yeah.

1026
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 3: Shadik okay. And so it was composed by this guy

1027
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,039
named Mikola Leontovitch.

1028
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: Something like that, Leontovitch, it's Ukrainian.

1029
00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:32,199
Speaker 3: Hey, my Ukrainian is not what it once was, Okay, Okay,

1030
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:35,559
but we're going to talk about things like cultural diplomacy

1031
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,199
and invasion assassination in this it's it's incredible, okay.

1032
00:48:39,199 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: So this song was composed by Mikola Leontovitch, right, and

1033
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,159
it was first performed right around Christmas nineteen sixteen. It

1034
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,679
led to him becoming famous. This is definitely his most

1035
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,079
famous song even at the time.

1036
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 1: Right. Just a little over four years later he would

1037
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:55,360
be murdered.

1038
00:48:55,519 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 3: So Leontovitch is this Ukrainian composer and he comes up

1039
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,039
with a song. He's actually very very critical of himself.

1040
00:49:01,039 --> 00:49:03,519
It wasn't really comfortable with this being this super famous,

1041
00:49:03,679 --> 00:49:06,400
next level song because he was always like, I.

1042
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,599
Speaker 1: Think it could be better. Yeah.

1043
00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 2: He was supposed to be a priest, went to school

1044
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,679
to be a priest, and after doing all that, he

1045
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,119
was like, I want to do music. And he was

1046
00:49:14,159 --> 00:49:16,519
really more like your high school music teacher, right, he

1047
00:49:16,519 --> 00:49:20,239
would put choirs together at whatever school he was teaching at.

1048
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 1: That was kind of what he did.

1049
00:49:21,679 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 3: So he puts together this Ukrainian choir in nineteen nineteen,

1050
00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:27,360
and he gathers up all the best singers from around

1051
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,480
the countryside, and they're going to go on this tour

1052
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,320
of Europe to sing this song and others, just.

1053
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: As a reminder for what's going on in the Soviet

1054
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,199
slash Russia at that time. You've got the Bolshevik Revolution

1055
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,559
going on, right, I mean, the Soviets are taking over

1056
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,239
the Russian countries.

1057
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,159
Speaker 3: Yes. In nineteen nineteen, Woodrow Wilson, at the peace conference

1058
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,400
in Paris declares the Baltic states are independent and they

1059
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,360
can self determine their own fate.

1060
00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: Right.

1061
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,599
Speaker 3: Well, guess who doesn't recognize.

1062
00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: That the Soviets.

1063
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, right, Oh, guess what We're gonna go

1064
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:03,519
ahead invade Ukraine? Right, sounds kind of like today.

1065
00:50:03,639 --> 00:50:04,119
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1066
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: There's a secret police that's formed called the Cheka. This

1067
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:10,159
is kind of a pre runner of the KGB, and

1068
00:50:10,199 --> 00:50:12,679
they send these guys out all over the place. Their

1069
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:17,239
targets tend to be the intellectuals and the artists, and

1070
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:20,199
Leontovitch is one of those guys. So with all this

1071
00:50:20,519 --> 00:50:25,199
unrest going on, he goes back to his hometown of Tolchien,

1072
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,920
which is in western Ukraine, and he's staying with his parents.

1073
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:34,239
He's religious, which is another group that no no, yeah, yeah,

1074
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,679
And so he goes back and is visiting for the

1075
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,760
Eastern Orthodox feast of the Nativity, and there's this guy

1076
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,199
who seems like he's a border He's like, hey, I

1077
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,519
just need a place to stay for the night, and

1078
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:50,239
so his parents let him sleep. He is sleeping in

1079
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,480
the same room as Mikola and in the middle of

1080
00:50:53,559 --> 00:50:56,800
the night takes a rifle and shoots him because it

1081
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,480
turns out he's one of these Checkist secret agents, which

1082
00:51:00,679 --> 00:51:03,519
I mean basically, this is the brute squad, right, they're

1083
00:51:03,559 --> 00:51:07,119
just out there murdering these people. He robs the house

1084
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,119
and leaves. It seems pretty clear that Micola was a target.

1085
00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely, this is a total assassination. Yeah, the root squad

1086
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,760
is after this guy and they take him out. Yeah

1087
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,840
because why because the famous Ukrainian. All Right, So the

1088
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:24,599
choir continues on to America, reaches Western audiences. They appreciate

1089
00:51:24,679 --> 00:51:27,760
it in nineteen twenty one. That's when they play Carnegie

1090
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,800
Hall and the American audience starts to chant Long Live Ukraine,

1091
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,559
and it starts to sort of tip the tide a

1092
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:37,639
little bit culturally for Ukraine. Well, Russia doesn't like that,

1093
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,119
and so they do everything they can to stamp it out.

1094
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,440
Russia actually kind of does that, kind of diminishes in popularity,

1095
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:48,159
Russia takes over Ukraine. Fast forward now to nineteen thirty six.

1096
00:51:48,519 --> 00:51:53,159
Speaker 2: This other musical master, Peter Wilhowski, here's it. And it's like,

1097
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,119
I think I can make a basically a Christmas song

1098
00:51:56,159 --> 00:51:56,480
out of this.

1099
00:51:56,679 --> 00:51:57,079
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

1100
00:51:57,159 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: The original poem that this is based on is I mean,

1101
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,960
it's basically prehistoric. It's been passed down forever and it

1102
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,639
was about this swallow coming into somebody's house and bringing

1103
00:52:06,679 --> 00:52:09,639
good news of a good spring coming. And that's what

1104
00:52:09,679 --> 00:52:12,159
this song originally was. It was this new year, new

1105
00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:14,920
spring kind of thing. It's only when Peter Wilhowski changes

1106
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,519
the words to the sweet sweet bells and the ding

1107
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:20,239
ding a Dong that we get Carol of the bells

1108
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:21,280
that we know and love.

1109
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,199
Speaker 3: He's actually of Ukrainian descent. Did not know that, Yes,

1110
00:52:24,199 --> 00:52:26,519
he is n so he plays it on NBC Radio,

1111
00:52:26,679 --> 00:52:30,800
and here's this beautiful song being introduced again to Western audiences.

1112
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,679
And music teachers around the country wrote into NBC Radio

1113
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,039
and said, I've got to have the music for this

1114
00:52:38,159 --> 00:52:41,199
song so i can teach my class bells well. One

1115
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,840
of the things I thought was interesting, a lot of

1116
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,599
people had kind of lost touch with this song again

1117
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,400
until Home Alone, and it introduced it again to a

1118
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,719
new generation. So it's been played in Home Alone they

1119
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,880
used it, and Diehard, they used it in The Simpsons.

1120
00:52:56,119 --> 00:52:57,320
Harry Potter used it.

1121
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,599
Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety four when d Graves was working at

1122
00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:04,199
TGI Fridays and we had to have birthday songs that

1123
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,599
weren't happy Birthday. Yeah, during Christmas season, I came up

1124
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:12,079
with it's your birthday, It's Sure Birthday, It's Sure Birthday,

1125
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,199
and the other singers would come in in harmony and

1126
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,480
I would say, here you are at Fridays and we're

1127
00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:18,719
singing you a song.

1128
00:53:19,159 --> 00:53:21,159
Speaker 1: If you do not like it, then we will not

1129
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:21,920
sing it long.

1130
00:53:22,119 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 2: Happy happy happy birthday, Happy happy happy Birthday.

1131
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: I would love I would love to know it's still

1132
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,440
singing at someone to TGI Fridays. Five years later.

1133
00:53:35,559 --> 00:53:36,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty good.

1134
00:53:36,599 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: I like it.

1135
00:53:37,079 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, good job.

1136
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: We're ready for our next Christmas song.

1137
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 2: Now, this song is one of Bing Crosby's most famous songs,

1138
00:53:44,119 --> 00:53:49,039
White Christmas.

1139
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,559
Speaker 1: Man love them what.

1140
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 3: Christ Know?

1141
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 2: Okay, so this song comes in just before we get

1142
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,159
the mysterious ending in the episode. This is Christmas at

1143
00:54:15,199 --> 00:54:18,599
the buyer's house. Right, Will's back, everybody's happy, you know,

1144
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,480
celebrating Christmas, and we get this kind of weird ending

1145
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:23,039
a little.

1146
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: Bit later on that we're not expecting.

1147
00:54:24,559 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: Right, But this song White Christmas is one of the

1148
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,079
most famous songs from one of the most famous Christmas

1149
00:54:31,159 --> 00:54:33,239
quote unquote movies that we know.

1150
00:54:33,519 --> 00:54:35,079
Speaker 3: We've already talked about this movie.

1151
00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 2: We talked about this movie on our first season when

1152
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,679
we did die Hard Versus Lethal Weapon. And the reason

1153
00:54:41,679 --> 00:54:43,960
that we talked about it is because our friend mister

1154
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,880
Stephen Desusa will do a side by side comparison of

1155
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,840
die Hard versus White Christmas to say die Hard is

1156
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,519
a much more Christmas movie than White Christmas is. And

1157
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,880
that's the case, then it must be.

1158
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 3: A Christmas Clearly, when you compaired Diehard to White Christmas,

1159
00:55:02,039 --> 00:55:06,119
Diehard is more Christmas y and deserves.

1160
00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: To be a Christmas movie.

1161
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, go back and listen to that episode from season one.

1162
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that movie had Bing Crosby and Danny Kay

1163
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:13,280
in it.

1164
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:18,519
Speaker 1: Danny F and k D. Yeah.

1165
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 2: Yes, stay tuned, boys and girls, because that's our next

1166
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,440
matchup is We're going to be matching Christmas Vacation against Scrooge.

1167
00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:30,960
Don't hit forget to hit the subscribe or follow button

1168
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,519
so that you don't miss that episode.

1169
00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:36,199
Speaker 3: Okay, right, the one of them is Ben Crosby tap

1170
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:37,480
dancing with Danny F and Ky.

1171
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,519
Speaker 2: Now, this song White Christmas was sung by Bing Crosby,

1172
00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:45,639
but it was written by a guy named Irving Berlin.

1173
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 3: I don't know a lot about Ervie Berlin. I was

1174
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,199
talking to you about it as I was learning. I'm

1175
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:53,159
liked the songs that this guy wrote. Oh yeah, my gosh,

1176
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,440
he changed American music. Oh yeah, I mean we're talking

1177
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:00,480
about putting on the ritz, cheek to cheek white christ Ristmas.

1178
00:56:00,679 --> 00:56:03,199
Anything you can do, I can do better. There's no

1179
00:56:03,639 --> 00:56:06,519
business like show business. And find I mean, God.

1180
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,159
Speaker 2: Bless America, God bless America.

1181
00:56:08,199 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? I know right?

1182
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,199
Speaker 3: This guy is American music.

1183
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,079
Speaker 1: He is a rock star. Before there were rock stars

1184
00:56:15,079 --> 00:56:15,599
if you will.

1185
00:56:15,679 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 3: So he was asked to write a song for the

1186
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,000
movie Holiday Inn, which starred Ben Crosby and Fred Astaire.

1187
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:23,039
The funny part about this is that he's writing this

1188
00:56:23,119 --> 00:56:25,679
in la There's actually two places, two hotels. There's a

1189
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,000
Lakita and the Biltmore, and both claim that he wrote

1190
00:56:29,039 --> 00:56:31,480
that song at their location. Okay, but if you look

1191
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,639
at the lyrics, it's a homesick song, right.

1192
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1193
00:56:34,119 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 3: He started this song in nineteen thirty eight, finished it

1194
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,199
in nineteen thirty nine. When he played it for Ben Crosby,

1195
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,039
he would do this right, and so he'd go into

1196
00:56:41,079 --> 00:56:42,760
his dressing room and he played these songs and Ben

1197
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,119
Crosby was like, yeah, okay, I like that one. Okay,

1198
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:47,000
we need to work on that one. And when he

1199
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:49,639
played White Christmas for him, he's like, well, that one's

1200
00:56:49,679 --> 00:56:51,719
one you don't have to worry about. Instant hit. So

1201
00:56:52,519 --> 00:56:56,519
a few weeks later, the attack on Pearl Harbor happened. Okay, okay,

1202
00:56:56,519 --> 00:56:58,239
so we're in the middle of World War Two. Ben

1203
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,920
Crosby introduced this song on Armed Forces radio and when

1204
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,920
they played White Christmas, the homesick lyrics really hit home

1205
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:18,639
with the gis Ah love a Christmas.

1206
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: Wherever Christmas.

1207
00:57:22,679 --> 00:57:30,639
Speaker 3: Run, and it became this hugely requested song and this

1208
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,679
idea of I want to go.

1209
00:57:32,679 --> 00:57:35,559
Speaker 1: Home, right, I want to go home for Christmas. I'm

1210
00:57:35,639 --> 00:57:37,239
dreaming of home.

1211
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,119
Speaker 3: So Ben Crosby, after the success of this song, went

1212
00:57:40,119 --> 00:57:43,239
overseas during World War Two, and somebody asked him and said,

1213
00:57:43,239 --> 00:57:44,840
what's the hardest thing you've ever done? He said, I

1214
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,199
sang White Christmas for one hundred thousand gis and I

1215
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,400
knew a lot of these guys would not be coming home.

1216
00:57:50,519 --> 00:57:52,480
And that was right before the Battle of the Bulge,

1217
00:57:53,119 --> 00:57:56,400
and many guys did not come home. This is the

1218
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:01,199
biggest selling single of I looked.

1219
00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: Up Irving Berlin on Spotify. I'm sure our listeners, some

1220
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,960
of them are familiar with Spotify. When you go to

1221
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,519
a particular artist, it will give you the top five

1222
00:58:10,599 --> 00:58:13,519
songs as far as downloads go that they have right

1223
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,519
for Irving Berlin. Number one obviously White Christmas. Okay, number

1224
00:58:17,559 --> 00:58:21,079
two White Christmas, number three White Christmas, number four White

1225
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:23,199
Christmas and number five White Christmas.

1226
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:24,559
Speaker 1: This has been covered by.

1227
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 2: So many people and it is a smash every single time.

1228
00:58:29,159 --> 00:58:33,320
His top five downloaded songs are all some version of

1229
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:33,719
this song.

1230
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 3: That's cool.

1231
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:34,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1232
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,559
Speaker 3: This song actually has the distinction of being the only

1233
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,920
song where the presenter at the Oscars presented the award

1234
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:43,880
to himself.

1235
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,519
Speaker 1: Irving Berlin was the presenter.

1236
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:48,559
Speaker 3: Irving Berlin was the presenter, and when he's like and

1237
00:58:48,599 --> 00:58:51,679
this year is OSCAR for Best Song in a Movie,

1238
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:58,679
goes to myself. Me, yeah, thank you, shake hands with

1239
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,519
myself and so so it was so awkward. The Academy

1240
00:59:01,559 --> 00:59:04,599
said that will never happen again. It's too weird. We've

1241
00:59:04,599 --> 00:59:07,519
got to make sure the presenter is never the acceptor, right.

1242
00:59:07,719 --> 00:59:10,320
So this is before they kept track of like physical sales,

1243
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,719
but the Gisbigger World Record still has him between fifty

1244
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:18,440
million and one hundred million physical singles sold of White Christmas. Wow,

1245
00:59:18,519 --> 00:59:20,960
best silling single of all time. How could we skip this?

1246
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,119
Speaker 1: We can't skip this, No way, no okay.

1247
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 2: And that brings us to the very last song of

1248
00:59:27,039 --> 00:59:29,519
the episode, and it brings us back full circle to

1249
00:59:29,559 --> 00:59:31,880
the beginning. The very first song that we heard is

1250
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,159
the theme and the very last song is a song

1251
00:59:35,239 --> 00:59:38,840
by Kyle Dixon and Michael Stein. These guys had been

1252
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,360
playing music together for ten years, and I mean they're

1253
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,320
really just they look like guys that will work at Walmart.

1254
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,960
I mean, it's they look they too, just Joe Schmoe.

1255
00:59:48,119 --> 00:59:50,159
Speaker 3: It looked like they could be your pizza delivery guy.

1256
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,559
Speaker 2: So these two guys had formed this band called Survive

1257
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,119
in Austin, Texas back in two thousand and nine. This

1258
00:59:59,239 --> 01:00:01,480
band did a bunch of live shows, had an EP

1259
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,719
and an LP, and the last song on one of

1260
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,559
these albums, the Duffer Brothers had taken and created a

1261
01:00:07,639 --> 01:00:11,679
mock trailer for Stranger Things. And these guys had no idea.

1262
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,639
They just suddenly got this random email from the Duffer brothers,

1263
01:00:15,679 --> 01:00:19,800
who at that point nobody knew who the Duffer Brothers were, right,

1264
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,519
And they just said, hey, we're going to do this

1265
01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:26,440
new series for Netflix. And I'm sure at that point

1266
01:00:26,519 --> 01:00:29,000
you're like, does Netflix make movies?

1267
01:00:29,119 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: Right? I thought it was the DVDs that I got

1268
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:32,159
in the mail.

1269
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 3: Right, right, I'm so sorry I paid my bill last month.

1270
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 2: But they're like, no, we've got this trailer we use

1271
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,559
your music for. We think your music is awesome and

1272
01:00:41,639 --> 01:00:44,119
perfect for the style that we're going for. Yeah, And

1273
01:00:44,159 --> 01:00:46,440
so these guys have been playing music together for ten years.

1274
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,079
Suddenly they just they get that magical call and they

1275
01:00:50,159 --> 01:00:52,760
end up winning a Grammy for the soundtrack for this show.

1276
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,559
I mean, it's it's pretty impressive how things can just

1277
01:00:56,639 --> 01:00:58,679
kind of magically happen for guys to just do what

1278
01:00:58,719 --> 01:00:59,280
they love doing.

1279
01:00:59,639 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: That is an awesome story. Yeah.

1280
01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 3: Really, that's like the very end of Dumb and Dumber

1281
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,880
where the bikini girls pull up out of nowhere.

1282
01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 2: Except that these guys did not give them wrong direction. Right,

1283
01:01:12,719 --> 01:01:15,320
So those are the composers, which obviously deserve a lot

1284
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,360
of credit. And then another person who deserves a lot

1285
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,840
of credit on this one is the music supervisor, Nora Felder,

1286
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,519
And she's been a music supervisor for tons of stuff.

1287
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: But we've talked about.

1288
01:01:25,639 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 2: The genius placement of these songs, and I don't know

1289
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,039
how much is her and how much is the Duffer

1290
01:01:31,079 --> 01:01:34,480
brothers and all of that, But I mean, just White

1291
01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:38,000
Rabbit alone is such a perfect, perfect song, sure for

1292
01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:42,159
the very first episode of this entire series, right, it's brilliant.

1293
01:01:42,239 --> 01:01:45,119
So Nora Felder also somebody worth mentioning.

1294
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Okay, are you ready to talk top three songs,

1295
01:01:49,039 --> 01:01:50,800
top two stories for this? All? Right?

1296
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 3: So let's let's do this, Okay, top three songs, yeah,

1297
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,039
top two stories. How about unexpected songs that maybe you

1298
01:01:57,199 --> 01:01:59,719
liked more now than you or maybe you didn't know

1299
01:01:59,719 --> 01:02:00,599
about it or something like that.

1300
01:02:00,639 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: Okay, this sounds great. Can you pull that off? Yeah?

1301
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:03,679
Speaker 3: Okay, you want me to do my top three?

1302
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 2: Or how about I do three, you do three, I

1303
01:02:06,519 --> 01:02:08,400
do two, you do two, I do one, you do one?

1304
01:02:08,679 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: Okay?

1305
01:02:09,039 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 3: Sure?

1306
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, these are the three best songs, three

1307
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:13,719
best songs. Okay, yeah.

1308
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,719
Speaker 2: So number three for me yes Corey Hart Sunglasses at.

1309
01:02:17,639 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 3: Not Yes, love it.

1310
01:02:19,079 --> 01:02:22,639
Speaker 2: Fantastic song, Yeah, I mean it, defining song, not only

1311
01:02:22,639 --> 01:02:25,760
for me, but for that entire eighties period. Perfect choice

1312
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,679
for the scene in Stranger Things.

1313
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: Love it top to bottom.

1314
01:02:29,599 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 3: So my number three song is Hazy Shade.

1315
01:02:31,559 --> 01:02:33,119
Speaker 1: A winner by the Bengals. Oh good one.

1316
01:02:33,159 --> 01:02:35,079
Speaker 3: Every time that one comes on, crank it.

1317
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:36,079
Speaker 1: Up two eleven, let's go.

1318
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, solid choice, okay, Susannah Hoffs, Hey it still looks good.

1319
01:02:43,079 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, still looks good. Okay. So number two

1320
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,159
for me has to be Africa.

1321
01:02:48,239 --> 01:02:52,239
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Toto's Africa comes back with this episode. I

1322
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,440
think you know, we solve that riddle. Has to be

1323
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,360
the Stranger Things that brings Africa back to the forefront,

1324
01:02:57,559 --> 01:03:00,960
which leads us to do the album. I loved everything

1325
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,880
about learning about Toto, and guys, be sure and go

1326
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,960
check out our Toto episode History of Toto and Toto

1327
01:03:07,039 --> 01:03:10,440
four that has the full details of Africa on it.

1328
01:03:10,719 --> 01:03:13,119
Speaker 1: But I mean another iconic eighty ship.

1329
01:03:13,039 --> 01:03:15,719
Speaker 3: That's one of my favorite track by track episodes that

1330
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,039
we've done is Toto four. Yeah, okay. My number two

1331
01:03:18,079 --> 01:03:19,280
song is Sunglasses at Night.

1332
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: Oh okay.

1333
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 3: That synth line comes on and it's just undeniable, huge

1334
01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:27,440
song from eighty four. I love it same reason you did.

1335
01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:28,559
Speaker 1: Yeah okay.

1336
01:03:28,639 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 2: So my number one song has to be White Rabbit

1337
01:03:32,559 --> 01:03:33,159
by Jefferson.

1338
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:34,039
Speaker 1: Oh well, okay.

1339
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 2: I know it's unexpected it's sung from the sixties instead

1340
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:40,119
of from the eighties, but it's such a powerful song.

1341
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:44,119
It was so new, so innovative, and it's such a

1342
01:03:44,119 --> 01:03:46,480
perfect fit for this show. I have to say, I

1343
01:03:46,519 --> 01:03:48,559
can listen to it over and over and over again

1344
01:03:48,639 --> 01:03:49,400
and never get.

1345
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:50,239
Speaker 1: Tired of it.

1346
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 3: It's it's definitely a musical masterpiece. It's fantastic. My number

1347
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,559
one is Africa by a Tote Well, all right. Top

1348
01:03:57,599 --> 01:04:00,599
two stories that we dug out on these songs.

1349
01:04:00,719 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so number two on this one.

1350
01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: You know, my second favorite story has to be the

1351
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,559
father Yode story that came from Sky Saxon and the Seeds.

1352
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,119
Speaker 1: Absolutely brilliant story. I don't know. I mean, it's a

1353
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,880
it's one of those rabbit holes that you went down. Yeah,

1354
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:19,480
and I'm the rabbit hole guy normally, but that was

1355
01:04:19,519 --> 01:04:21,920
a rabbit hole for you, and it was a fantastic one.

1356
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:23,039
I loved learning about it.

1357
01:04:23,079 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 3: Well, thank you. That makes me feel good.

1358
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm glad that is unfortunate to.

1359
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:34,199
Speaker 3: Mind the hang letter accident on Christmas Day. Okay, cool.

1360
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:38,320
So my number two story is the go Nowhere Revenue story,

1361
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:44,079
the amazing serial killer, prostitution, drug abuse. That whole thing

1362
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,519
blew my mind and I know it's coming up, so

1363
01:04:46,559 --> 01:04:47,320
I want to punt it to you.

1364
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,719
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's number one for me for I mean,

1365
01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:53,239
when we very first said to each other, hey, we

1366
01:04:53,239 --> 01:04:55,079
should look we should look at doing the soundtrack of

1367
01:04:55,079 --> 01:04:57,760
Stranger Things. That's a fun different thing to do, right right.

1368
01:04:58,159 --> 01:05:00,480
And I'm just skimming through and I'm like brigging Youth.

1369
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,039
I kind of remember that name, and then I come

1370
01:05:02,079 --> 01:05:05,480
across that story and I was like Holy cow, this

1371
01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:09,519
is movie worthy. This is one hundred percent movie worthy.

1372
01:05:09,559 --> 01:05:11,880
So that one yet definitely my number one. What's your

1373
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:12,320
number one?

1374
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 3: My number one is Heroes with David Bowie. The idea

1375
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,199
of doing a concert at the Berlin Wall and you've

1376
01:05:19,199 --> 01:05:22,280
got West Berlin singing and you can hear people in

1377
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:26,000
East Berlin singing at a time when people were concerned

1378
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,440
about the rise of communism and all this stuff, and

1379
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,559
so the idea of the uniting power of music.

1380
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,239
Speaker 1: Heroes by David Bowie fantastic. I love it.

1381
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, we went through all these songs. Is there

1382
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,360
any song that maybe you hadn't heard before or one

1383
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,199
that you appreciate more now that we've done it?

1384
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: What do you think?

1385
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,039
Speaker 2: Honestly, it was one of the ambient songs. It was

1386
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:47,440
Fields of Choral by Vangellis. I had to drive the

1387
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,639
family at the wee hours of the morning to the

1388
01:05:49,719 --> 01:05:52,159
Dallas Airport and I had that thing blaring in my

1389
01:05:52,239 --> 01:05:54,760
ears for a good portion of the drive down.

1390
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: Awesome, Awesome, Okay, how about you?

1391
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 3: Well, for me, there's two Actually I'm a kind of

1392
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,840
break moan here, but Heroes by David Bowie blew me away.

1393
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,719
I'd never heard that song before in my life and

1394
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,480
just love it. And then the second one, I've got

1395
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,519
to go with Trooper and raise a little hell nice.

1396
01:06:10,559 --> 01:06:12,159
Speaker 1: That was a great one, Yeah for sure.

1397
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,159
Speaker 3: I mean that's like a classic rock could have been

1398
01:06:15,159 --> 01:06:17,559
a staple. I don't know why I'd never heard it before.

1399
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: Because of there are a bunch of Canadians.

1400
01:06:20,159 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 3: Hey, Cam, Hey Addie Itch.

1401
01:06:23,519 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 2: Guys, thank you so much for joining us. It's perfect

1402
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:30,440
that we're ending on these Christmas episode songs and we

1403
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:34,119
look forward to jumping into our Christmas episodes with you soon.

1404
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:35,039
Speaker 1: We will be.

1405
01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 2: Doing Bill Murray and Scrooged versus Chevy Chase in National

1406
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Lampoon's Christmas Vacation. It will be another fun Christmas episode

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that we will do.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait to see you guys.

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Speaker 3: Then it's gonna be a Christmas where we staple antlers

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to mice.

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Speaker 1: And wouldn't be more surprised if I woke up with

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my head staple of the carpet.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna like the Christmas tree on fire and seeing

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the star spangled banner. It's gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you guys.