WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:03.879 It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Bzy 2 00:00:04.280 --> 00:00:05.759 Boston's Meat Radio. 3 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:10.359 All right, before we get to my guest, Dave Paleologus, 4 00:00:10.439 --> 00:00:15.359 the Magnificent Poster, If you will, I got an email 5 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:20.359 just about an hour ago from a gentleman who tells me, 6 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:22.800 and I believe he's telling me the truth because I 7 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:26.320 talked with him during the newscast that his mom and 8 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:35.479 dad were married seventy one years ago today, unbelievable. June eleventh, 9 00:00:35.719 --> 00:00:41.399 nineteen fifty four, they are celebrating their seventy first wedding 10 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:47.640 anniversary tonight. William also known as Bill, and his lovely 11 00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:51.920 wife Lorraine with one R. It's the way she likes 12 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:56.200 to introduce herself. Lorraine with one R have had seventy 13 00:00:56.280 --> 00:00:59.759 one years of marital bliss. I'm telling you that has 14 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:05.280 to be a record, and I just wanted to congratulate 15 00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:11.159 them all through the fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties, in 16 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:16.239 what they call the twenty two thousand, ought years, the 17 00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:20.480 twenty teen years, and now to seventy one years of 18 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:25.920 wedded bliss. Bill was only eighteen and Lorraine was seventeen, 19 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:29.560 but they made it work. They had a lovely family, 20 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:39.560 three children, and you talk about the standard for loyalty 21 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:43.319 and trust and love. I just want to send a 22 00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:47.680 big congratulations out to Bill and Lorraine King. They live 23 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:52.200 up in New Hampshire. Now they perhaps aren't even listening 24 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:54.719 right now, but if any of their friends are listening, 25 00:01:56.239 --> 00:02:00.439 I'm sure you know of this. But seventy one years amazing. 26 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:03.280 I told their son who called me that if he 27 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:06.519 gave me a little bit more. Notice, you know, we 28 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:09.560 don't do a lot of these when seventy one, when 29 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:12.120 you stay married, First of all, both of you are 30 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:14.919 still alive. I mean that's a miracle and of itself. 31 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:18.560 But when you stay married for seventy one years, if 32 00:02:18.639 --> 00:02:20.840 Dan Ray on Nightside Conki, have you a shout out? 33 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:24.879 Then Dan Ray shouldn't be doing Nightside in my opinion. 34 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:30.159 So congratulations Bill and Lorraine with one R and I 35 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:36.319 hope you have many more anniversaries on future June elevens. Well, 36 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:41.199 Dave Palelogus, those are numbers I think nobody can beat. 37 00:02:41.240 --> 00:02:42.039 How are you tonight? 38 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:44.960 Oh my god? We got to get them in a 39 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:48.840 focus group. What's the secret then we're all set. 40 00:02:50.439 --> 00:02:57.120 Unbelievable, Just unbelievable talk talk about focus groups and numbers. 41 00:02:57.960 --> 00:03:02.280 The Globe you conducted a poll that was in the 42 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:07.680 Globe today, which was actually a combination poll conducted for 43 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:13.000 the Globe and Suffolk University, a Suffolk Globe poll, and 44 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:15.639 the headline is that here in New England, we have 45 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:19.319 an abundance of pessimism. New England voters are down on Trump, 46 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:26.240 the economy, and even Democrats. But the Democrats aren't doing 47 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:32.439 much better. I would assume that when Trump's numbers go down, 48 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:36.439 President Trump's numbers go down, the Democratic numbers should be 49 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:38.560 going up. But that doesn't seem to be the case. 50 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:41.840 What do you think's going on here, mister Polster. 51 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:46.039 Well, i'll tell you you know from your previous segment 52 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:49.599 on lost private sector jobs. 53 00:03:49.719 --> 00:03:49.919 Yep. 54 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:54.520 You can't help but wonder because you know, when I 55 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:58.080 looked at the poll numbers just on the I mean 56 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:01.560 I expected Trump to be low because it was Massachusetts, 57 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:04.680 New Hampshire and Rhode Island. I mean, Trump only got 58 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:08.280 thirty six percent of the vote Massachusetts, so that didn't 59 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:10.439 surprise me that he had a high disapproval and a 60 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:13.960 low approval. But when you look at the economy numbers, 61 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:18.759 I mean, you know, we're Massachusetts and only ten percent 62 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:25.079 of voters in this whole region we're saying excellent are 63 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:29.600 good for the economy? Yeah, that's incredible. 64 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:30.319 You know. 65 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:36.399 When you know, when we were looking at the same 66 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:43.920 question of Massachusetts respondents in October twenty twenty four, it 67 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:48.600 was double that, it was forty one percent excellent are good? 68 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:51.040 Now it's twenty three. 69 00:04:52.879 --> 00:05:01.240 So it's like, but my question is this, Yeah, certainly 70 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:06.160 you you did this poll. This poll was early June, 71 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:07.199 June first. 72 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:09.720 To June fifth, right last week, right. 73 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:16.879 Right, So the stock market had rebounded obviously. When President 74 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:22.480 Trump announced the tariffs on air quotes here Liberation Day 75 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:29.040 August April second, the market took a twenty percent hit roughly, 76 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:33.600 and people who had four one k's and who watched 77 00:05:33.639 --> 00:05:36.519 the market carefully, and people who have investments in the market. 78 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:41.959 But that has the market has come back, and I 79 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:48.480 know that that today the market kind of yawned when 80 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:51.519 I guess China and the United States announced that they 81 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:55.439 had come to an agreement on tariffs, and the market 82 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:59.279 actually lost today because I think that it had been 83 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:02.079 built in to this to the last few weeks where 84 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:09.040 the market has has gone straight up. Unemployment. Uh, it 85 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:13.720 hasn't isn't horrible in Rhode Island to Massachusetts or New Hampshire. 86 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:17.839 It's pretty much where the national averages. Gas prices have 87 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:22.399 kind of stayed low, prices at the grocery store have 88 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:26.319 kind of stabilized or come down. What do you attribute 89 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:29.920 the fact that people now look at the economy here 90 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:32.279 in New England? And again it's important as you mentioned today, 91 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:36.399 this poll was done with in New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, 92 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:40.639 not Connecticut, not made not from month the three states, Massachusetts, 93 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:43.800 Rhode Island, in New Hampshire. What do you attribute this 94 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:48.040 this different this six month difference, or will it's a 95 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:50.480 little bit more than six monthstri like that eight months 96 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:56.439 difference that that when president uh, when when Vice President 97 00:06:56.519 --> 00:07:01.720 Harris was running her numbers here on the economy, we're 98 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:05.920 pretty good, I mean either excellent good to fear seventy 99 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:10.399 percent the poor you know, wasn't wasn't that bad And 100 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:15.240 now it's really switched the excellent. A good portion of 101 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:19.560 the excellent in good numbers have dropped into the fear category. 102 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:22.959 Is that reality or is that just politics? 103 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:26.160 You know, it's a little bit of both. So I 104 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:29.600 guess two things come to mind when you ask that question. 105 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:33.360 One is you have a different president, and when you 106 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:37.160 have a different president, perceptions of the economy flipped. So 107 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:40.959 when Biden was president, there were twice as many people 108 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:43.720 saying excellent, are good as you said. Kamala House is 109 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:47.720 running in October twenty twenty four. Now it's half of that, 110 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:50.399 and Donald Trump's the president. So I think part of 111 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:53.560 it is just Democrats being sour on Trump, and they're 112 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:55.720 going to be sour on every question that they're asked 113 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:59.920 pretty much. But I also think part of part of it, 114 00:08:00.399 --> 00:08:04.920 and this is unique to Massachusetts, is we're kind of 115 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:08.759 vulnerable to some of these DOGE cuts more than people think. 116 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:17.120 And we asked the question about DOGE cuts, and when 117 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:22.959 you look at the data, it's pretty pretty powerful. Because 118 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:29.759 I thought going into this question, you know, maybe twenty 119 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:36.399 percent of respondents would be impacted by DOGE. We asked 120 00:08:36.440 --> 00:08:42.000 the question to you or anybody close to you. Have 121 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:45.759 you or anybody close you've been impacted by DOGE? And 122 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:49.840 I didn't expect the numbers to be forty percent forty 123 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:53.159 two percent, which is what it was in Massachusetts, And 124 00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:55.840 it makes sense to me now that the pole is over, 125 00:08:56.120 --> 00:09:00.120 because you know, there are facts in research, cutbacks at 126 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:06.919 the universities, cutbacks in hospitals and out of medical research. 127 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:12.519 And look, Massachusetts is the leader in you know, colleges 128 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:17.600 and universities, in hospitals. I mean we have we're you know, 129 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:21.360 we're at that level. So the fact that forty two 130 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:26.279 percent of Massachusetts voters either themselves were directly impacted by 131 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:30.480 doche cuts or someone close to them speaks to an 132 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:34.639 additional layer of anxiety and concern about the Massachusetts economy. 133 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:39.960 And so I think it's a little bit about it's 134 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:43.320 a little bit of perception where Democrats get sour on 135 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:47.919 economy questions once the Republicans in office. But also that 136 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:50.759 you know, some of these cuts are hitting people, and 137 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:55.519 I think even your listeners probably know somebody who's scrambling 138 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:58.480 a little bit. Now you know that maybe you know 139 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:02.720 was working either directly indirectly for a hospital or research 140 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:08.120 center or university and they're making cockbacks, and you know, 141 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:11.679 and that reples that does affect your perception of the economy. 142 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:16.799 My guess is David Paleologus really an extraordinary poster. We're 143 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:20.480 lucky we have a couple of really good posters based 144 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:23.279 here in Massachusetts, a one at Emerson College, one at 145 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:29.039 Suffolk College, and we will focus on Dave Paleologus tonight there. 146 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:33.399 This poll is available in the Globe and it's online 147 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:35.879 as well. I'd like to sort of do a little 148 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:38.960 bit of a poll with Dave. And if you've never 149 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:42.039 talked to a poster before, maybe I'll ask you a 150 00:10:42.080 --> 00:10:45.080 couple of questions and find out how you feel about 151 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:53.440 the economy. Again, I just I am baffled on some level, 152 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:57.120 but I really understand that on other levels, I don't know. 153 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:01.720 I am a very split mind here. I think that 154 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:07.080 this just shows that the distrust of Trump is very 155 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:11.000 deep throughout New England. He is He's a New Yorker, 156 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:16.639 and there's that sort of animus. He obviously is taking 157 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:19.600 some very dramatic actions that a lot of people are 158 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:22.120 being impacted by. I love to know what you think. 159 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:27.600 This is a question on the economy. People are really pessimistic. 160 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:28.320 Uh. 161 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:31.639 And if you're pessimistic and you were with the majority 162 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:35.720 of voters in the Suffolk Globe poll conducted by Deve 163 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:39.519 pale Logus, chime in. And if you, on the other hand, 164 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:42.159 disagree with the results of the poll. I mean, the 165 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:44.080 results of the poll are the results of the poll. 166 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:47.440 But if you find yourself in the minority, and you 167 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:53.360 are optimistic about what's going on, feel free and maybe 168 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:55.919 Dave will ask you a couple of questions and and 169 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:58.720 and flesh out your answers. So this is an opportunity 170 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:01.960 to be asked by Deep Holster himself. But you've got 171 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:06.279 to express your opinions first six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, 172 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:09.679 thirty six, one, seven, nine three. I make this up 173 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:13.519 as I go along. I listen to what Dave Paleologus said, 174 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:15.639 and I'm trying to come up with something that might 175 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:19.440 entice you to join the conversation. So the lines are 176 00:12:19.480 --> 00:12:23.240 wide open. Dave Paleologus doesn't bite. He's a good guy. 177 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:27.080 He'll ask you some questions depending upon what your perspective is, 178 00:12:27.559 --> 00:12:31.399 what your perception is, what he believes your perception is. 179 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:33.600 And we'll have a little bit of fun here talking 180 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:36.240 with a poster on Nightside. My name's Dan Ray. Let 181 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:38.759 him up back right right after this on night Side. 182 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:44.679 It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news Radio. 183 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:49.320 Delighted to be joined by Dave Paleologus. If you read 184 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:52.320 the Boston Globe today, you'll see that there was a 185 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:56.919 pretty substantial poll that Dave Paleologus did you know One 186 00:12:56.960 --> 00:13:00.600 of the uh, the the issues that was talked about 187 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:06.080 was immigration, deporting immigrations living illegally in the US to 188 00:13:06.159 --> 00:13:12.039 their home countries. Again, that shows the New England voter, 189 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:15.240 I think most clearly that was an area where Donald 190 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:18.759 Trump had the most support, but he only has forty 191 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:23.000 percent support. Now that is an issue that nationally he 192 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:26.360 has much more than forty percent, But that to me 193 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:31.799 underscores the dislike that a lot of people in Massachusetts 194 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:34.399 or in New England, certainly Rhode Island, New Hampshire and 195 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:39.759 Massachusetts after Donald Trump, because I think that a lot 196 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:41.919 of people are pretty happy that that border has been 197 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:44.519 tightened up around the country. Am I right or wrong 198 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:44.799 on that? 199 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:49.240 No, You're absolutely right about that. And you know, the 200 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:57.440 deportations cut on race line. So among white voters' deportation 201 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:04.279 was supported, you know, in the low forties, and among 202 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:08.720 black and Hispanic voters it was you know, at thirty percent. 203 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:13.080 So and then when we broke out New Hampshire, deportations 204 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:17.240 was actually supported overall with fifty four percent of New 205 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:21.399 Hampshire voters supporting it. So we did notice a race 206 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:26.279 differential on the question, but on the question of ICE 207 00:14:27.080 --> 00:14:31.919 that was a little bit different. The idea of deporting 208 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:36.759 criminals out of the United States is much more appealing 209 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:40.159 to voters, even in Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Rhode Island 210 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:46.200 than the methodology of ICE. And we tested the approval 211 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:50.879 of ICE overall, it was only twenty eight percent and 212 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:55.720 almost seventy percent said that they disapproved or strongly disapproved. 213 00:14:56.759 --> 00:15:01.960 And we also asked the question about the Tofts University 214 00:15:02.039 --> 00:15:05.879 graduate student was taken into custody the same kind of thing. 215 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:11.279 Only sixteen percent approved and seventy percent either strongly disapproved 216 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:12.039 or disapproved. 217 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:19.200 So the optics of that arrest were brutal. And I 218 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:21.039 read the editorial that she wrote. 219 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:21.480 It was. 220 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:30.879 It wasn't antisemitic, it was supportive of Palestinians. But I 221 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:32.879 think that that was way over the top. And I 222 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:36.039 also think that when they talk about collateral damage, I 223 00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:38.399 don't think the public understands that if they go into 224 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:42.559 a house and they're looking for some MS thirteen gang 225 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:45.240 banger and they happen to find two or three other 226 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:47.840 people who they know to be MS thirteen gang bangers. 227 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:51.399 That's the type of collateral damage that they should move on, 228 00:15:51.720 --> 00:15:54.080 not some eighteen year old kid from Milford who happens 229 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:56.519 to be driving his father's car, even though the kid 230 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:59.720 technically might be illegal. I think the public wants to 231 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:03.720 see the so called bad ombres moved out of the country. 232 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:09.799 And I realized that in New England, you know, uh, 233 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:17.360 the the bad optical arrests only fuel the disdain that 234 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:20.960 people have for the Trump administration and Trump policies. Let's 235 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:23.399 let's get a caller in here for you, David, if 236 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:26.080 we can. I got Mike and Beverly. Mike, I happen 237 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:29.600 to know that you're a Trump supporter. You're almost Dave palaeologus. 238 00:16:29.679 --> 00:16:31.840 You can ask whatever question you want, and Dave may 239 00:16:31.879 --> 00:16:33.039 have a question or two for you. 240 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:37.440 Go ahead, Mike, Hey, can you hear me? Yes? 241 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:39.000 I can go ahead. 242 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:43.399 So yeah, so yeah, So I like to hear all 243 00:16:43.440 --> 00:16:46.519 these posts come from because I live on the North Shore. 244 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:49.559 I'm in the fossil fuel business, the turking industry. You're like, 245 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:53.600 everyone I talk though, let me hear these poles. I'm like, yeah, 246 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:57.159 when I talked to supports everything going on. So I 247 00:16:57.279 --> 00:16:59.039 love how these poles come out and all this. 248 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:00.960 Yeah, I don't know. 249 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:01.879 I just find it. 250 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:05.839 Fascinating these people, you know, all this pull somebody going on. 251 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:09.079 I don't know who you're talking. But by the way, Dave, 252 00:17:09.400 --> 00:17:12.960 just for curiosity, are you working with a cell phone 253 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:14.799 or you're working with a can and a string? 254 00:17:16.960 --> 00:17:17.119 Mike? 255 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:19.920 Excuse me, Mike, Mike, I'm sorry, Mike. Do you have 256 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:21.920 a are you working on with a cell phone? Here? 257 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:23.640 Yeah? 258 00:17:24.200 --> 00:17:26.359 Do me a favor. You know, if the part of 259 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:29.400 the cell phone is the mouthpiece, would you put that 260 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:32.279 near your mouth and speak into it directly? I think 261 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:34.640 that will improve the clarity of what you're saying. 262 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:36.240 Any mean? 263 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:40.400 Now, yeah, I mean where was the where's the microphone? 264 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:42.799 But where's the where's the cell phone behind your ear 265 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:44.599 or something? Come on, you got to talk into it. 266 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:46.559 I'm in my truck. 267 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:48.920 Dan, you're in a truck. 268 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:53.119 You're on bluetooth. Okay? Uh, well fine, we heard what 269 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:57.200 you said. Trust me, these polls are accurate. You may 270 00:17:57.319 --> 00:18:02.279 want to broaden your social group, uh, Dave, obviously, Yeah. 271 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:05.039 Mike from BET does not support the polls. He doesn't 272 00:18:05.119 --> 00:18:06.000 understand them go ahead. 273 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:09.839 Yeah, And hey, Mike, I get what you're saying, because 274 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:13.440 when a poll comes out and it runs counter to 275 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:16.920 your own beliefs and what you feel and what you 276 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:21.839 hear from your friends and family members, it makes you 277 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:25.759 immediately question the poll results. I understand that. And no 278 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:30.359 matter how much Dan or I talk about how accurate 279 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:32.400 Suffolk Polls are, you can go to the website and 280 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:35.279 look us up. We're rated with everybody else. If you 281 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:39.880 don't genuinely believe that what we do is authentic, there's 282 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:44.039 really nothing anybody can say or do. I can tell 283 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:48.440 you that we had a very good success rate in 284 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:51.200 twenty twenty four. We were nationally ranked in twenty twenty 285 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:55.759 and twenty twenty two. But I understand the skepticism, especially 286 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:59.720 if you've never been called or you've never conducted a poll, 287 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:02.799 because I often see on social media people will say 288 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:05.559 who do they talk to? You know, who do they call? 289 00:19:05.799 --> 00:19:09.240 And and I've never been called and all of that. 290 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:15.519 So don't feel guilt, embarrassed or bad about calling and 291 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:18.799 being skeptical about polls. We deal with it all the time. 292 00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:22.920 And I got to tell you, Dan, you know, on 293 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:28.000 this poll, and I really didn't talk to the Globe 294 00:19:28.039 --> 00:19:31.640 too much about this, But in this poll I could. 295 00:19:31.759 --> 00:19:35.720 I monitored the first night, but we usually do live monitoring. 296 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:39.440 I monitored calls the first night. I couldn't believe how 297 00:19:39.519 --> 00:19:44.519 many people were afraid to answer a Suffolk University poll, 298 00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:47.000 not because of us, not because of the Globe, but 299 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:49.880 because they wanted to know if we had their name, 300 00:19:50.599 --> 00:19:52.720 if their names were going to be, if they were 301 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:55.680 going to be They were afraid of Trump. They were 302 00:19:55.759 --> 00:19:59.640 afraid to actually voice their opinions that somehow this information 303 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:02.680 was going to And I monitored I think six calls 304 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:07.400 in the first hour on day one, and three of 305 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:10.359 them there were people who were just you know, nice people. 306 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:12.960 They were just you know, and they would say, you know, 307 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:17.079 I never would ask you this, I would just hang 308 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:19.519 up or whatever, but you know, is this going to 309 00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:22.000 come back? And we would say no. I mean, if 310 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:25.240 you want to be available to a Globe reporter for 311 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:28.359 a quote or follow up interview, yes, but you don't 312 00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:30.319 have to and if you don't want to, we won't. 313 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:33.599 So there's a lot of nervousness about that with doing 314 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:34.640 live call or polling. 315 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:36.920 The other thing I just want to add from Mike. 316 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:41.240 One thing, Hey, Mike, Yeah, Suffolk Suffolk Poll and U 317 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:44.799 and Emerson Poll. They poll for a lot of companies 318 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:49.799 and and they have to be accurate. If they're not accurate, 319 00:20:49.920 --> 00:20:53.680 and and they're accurate. Uh, these two polls posters that 320 00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:58.240 we use the UH Spencer Kimball from Emerson and UH 321 00:20:58.319 --> 00:21:00.720 and Dave Paleo Logus from Suffolk to the best in 322 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:03.279 the country. Uh. You go back and look at their 323 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:07.480 track record. You can see how they did in presidential elections, 324 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:10.799 how they did in senate races. They pride themselves in 325 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:15.880 their accuracy, Dave and Spencer. They want to simply to 326 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:19.119 be correct. They you know, they're not. They don't have 327 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:22.880 a rooting interest here. And if if they're able to find, 328 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:28.480 let us say, a poll that that goes against the grain, 329 00:21:28.759 --> 00:21:33.480 and they're convinced of it, they stand by those polls. 330 00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:35.960 And when they do go against the grain, and all 331 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:38.759 of a sudden there's an upset and they've predicted the upset, 332 00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:41.960 they zoom up in the ratings. So their interest is 333 00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:43.960 to get it right. Go ahead, Mike, I'll give you 334 00:21:44.039 --> 00:21:45.480 the last comment. Go right ahead. 335 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:48.680 No, I just find it because I support small business. 336 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:50.799 So you know, I go to small business sandwich shops, 337 00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:52.480 the coffee shops all the day. I talk to my 338 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:56.680 friends and my vendors and other and my customers, and 339 00:21:57.000 --> 00:21:59.240 you know, I just find it past thing that you know, 340 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:02.000 this poll about the situation going on. I don't get 341 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:04.160 that feeling, but it is what it is about the 342 00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:06.799 ball I guess, I mean, I guess won't be revealed 343 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:10.079 about it. You know, Okay, amazing how it works. 344 00:22:10.759 --> 00:22:13.559 To the people that you talk to in the coffee 345 00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:16.160 shops and so on? Are they mostly men or women? 346 00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:18.119 Or in what ages? 347 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:19.799 Yeah? 348 00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:29.039 Forties and fifties and see yeah, yeah, are they mostly men? 349 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:31.119 Mostly men? 350 00:22:31.160 --> 00:22:31.519 And women? 351 00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:34.160 Are forties and fifties? You don't, well, I would hope. 352 00:22:34.039 --> 00:22:39.039 All that there's no alien I mean, there's no no, 353 00:22:39.519 --> 00:22:43.000 no extraterrescuals you're talking to there. Hey, Mike, I appreciate 354 00:22:43.079 --> 00:22:46.599 your call, and I appreciate you your honesty. I appreciate 355 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:50.400 it much. But I'm into my my news. Yeah, thank you, 356 00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:53.119 got to break for news. You're always welcome to call here. Mike. 357 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:55.720 You know that a good one. Thank you, my friend 358 00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:58.799 Dave Pailley Loogus, you gave great answer and and I 359 00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:03.599 support the point that you would you You guys don't 360 00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:05.880 have a dog in the fight. You're you're not out 361 00:23:05.880 --> 00:23:08.799 there doing what is so called push polls to try 362 00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:12.480 to push one candidate on this topic or that topic. 363 00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:16.079 You're out there looking for accuracy. You're like the sports 364 00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:19.519 broadcaster who says, at the end of the fifth inning, 365 00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:22.519 the Red Sox are ahead, you know, seven to one. 366 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:25.319 If they happen to lose the game eight seven doesn't 367 00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:27.680 mean that at the end of the fifth inning the 368 00:23:27.759 --> 00:23:30.160 broadcaster was wrong. They were ahead seven to one, but 369 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:33.400 they lost the game. I mean, I feel that's the 370 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:35.599 only thing I can I can compare it to. We 371 00:23:35.720 --> 00:23:37.440 got a bunch of calls here, Dave, can you can 372 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:39.720 you stick with me for a little bit? Yeah? Sure, okay. 373 00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:42.759 And by the way, all the calls so far, men, 374 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:44.640 We're going to get to Ramon and the truck Bill 375 00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:48.599 and Westwood and JT and Connecticut. I got one line 376 00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:50.720 at six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. I 377 00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:53.000 got one line at six one, seven, nine, three, one 378 00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:56.039 ten thirty. Love to get a couple of women callers 379 00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:59.440 in here to talk to Dave Paleologus. Feel free to 380 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:02.200 ask him whatever question you want. I think that it's 381 00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:07.119 important for pollsters to hear from people, and for people 382 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:10.279 to hear from pollsters, and to understand that this is 383 00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:12.599 all on the level, all on the level. Whether you 384 00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:15.640 believe it or not, it is on the level because 385 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:18.200 it's in his interest to be right. We'll be back 386 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:19.400 on Nightside right after this. 387 00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:26.799 Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm deelling you Boston's News Radio. 388 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:30.039 All right, let's keep rolling here, Gonna go to Ramone 389 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:32.720 in the truck. Ramone, Welcome, You're home with Suffolk University 390 00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:35.680 poster Dave Paleologus, Go right ahead, Ramone. 391 00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:40.559 Hey, good evening, Dan, Good evening. 392 00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:44.599 First, First, the fat boys break up. 393 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:50.279 And now this, I mean, if they're really looking for criminals, 394 00:24:50.359 --> 00:24:52.240 I mean, they're never gonna find it in my home, 395 00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:55.960 a home depot. I mean, where are the all these 396 00:24:56.160 --> 00:25:01.160 guys that are trafficking women on this Chinese massage parlors, 397 00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:03.160 all these Italian bars and. 398 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:04.480 So forth and so forth. 399 00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:07.759 I mean, something's got to be done about this. 400 00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:11.559 And like this kid in over there that is spent 401 00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:13.839