Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Bzy
Speaker 1: Boston's Meat Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, before we get to my guest, Dave Paleologus,
Speaker 2: the Magnificent Poster, If you will, I got an email
Speaker 2: just about an hour ago from a gentleman who tells me,
Speaker 2: and I believe he's telling me the truth because I
Speaker 2: talked with him during the newscast that his mom and
Speaker 2: dad were married seventy one years ago today, unbelievable. June eleventh,
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty four, they are celebrating their seventy first wedding
Speaker 2: anniversary tonight. William also known as Bill, and his lovely
Speaker 2: wife Lorraine with one R. It's the way she likes
Speaker 2: to introduce herself. Lorraine with one R have had seventy
Speaker 2: one years of marital bliss. I'm telling you that has
Speaker 2: to be a record, and I just wanted to congratulate
Speaker 2: them all through the fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties, in
Speaker 2: what they call the twenty two thousand, ought years, the
Speaker 2: twenty teen years, and now to seventy one years of
Speaker 2: wedded bliss. Bill was only eighteen and Lorraine was seventeen,
Speaker 2: but they made it work. They had a lovely family,
Speaker 2: three children, and you talk about the standard for loyalty
Speaker 2: and trust and love. I just want to send a
Speaker 2: big congratulations out to Bill and Lorraine King. They live
Speaker 2: up in New Hampshire. Now they perhaps aren't even listening
Speaker 2: right now, but if any of their friends are listening,
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know of this. But seventy one years amazing.
Speaker 2: I told their son who called me that if he
Speaker 2: gave me a little bit more. Notice, you know, we
Speaker 2: don't do a lot of these when seventy one, when
Speaker 2: you stay married, First of all, both of you are
Speaker 2: still alive. I mean that's a miracle and of itself.
Speaker 2: But when you stay married for seventy one years, if
Speaker 2: Dan Ray on Nightside Conki, have you a shout out?
Speaker 2: Then Dan Ray shouldn't be doing Nightside in my opinion.
Speaker 2: So congratulations Bill and Lorraine with one R and I
Speaker 2: hope you have many more anniversaries on future June elevens. Well,
Speaker 2: Dave Palelogus, those are numbers I think nobody can beat.
Speaker 2: How are you tonight?
Speaker 3: Oh my god? We got to get them in a
Speaker 3: focus group. What's the secret then we're all set.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, Just unbelievable talk talk about focus groups and numbers.
Speaker 2: The Globe you conducted a poll that was in the
Speaker 2: Globe today, which was actually a combination poll conducted for
Speaker 2: the Globe and Suffolk University, a Suffolk Globe poll, and
Speaker 2: the headline is that here in New England, we have
Speaker 2: an abundance of pessimism. New England voters are down on Trump,
Speaker 2: the economy, and even Democrats. But the Democrats aren't doing
Speaker 2: much better. I would assume that when Trump's numbers go down,
Speaker 2: President Trump's numbers go down, the Democratic numbers should be
Speaker 2: going up. But that doesn't seem to be the case.
Speaker 2: What do you think's going on here, mister Polster.
Speaker 3: Well, i'll tell you you know from your previous segment
Speaker 3: on lost private sector jobs.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: You can't help but wonder because you know, when I
Speaker 3: looked at the poll numbers just on the I mean
Speaker 3: I expected Trump to be low because it was Massachusetts,
Speaker 3: New Hampshire and Rhode Island. I mean, Trump only got
Speaker 3: thirty six percent of the vote Massachusetts, so that didn't
Speaker 3: surprise me that he had a high disapproval and a
Speaker 3: low approval. But when you look at the economy numbers,
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we're Massachusetts and only ten percent
Speaker 3: of voters in this whole region we're saying excellent are
Speaker 3: good for the economy? Yeah, that's incredible.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: When you know, when we were looking at the same
Speaker 3: question of Massachusetts respondents in October twenty twenty four, it
Speaker 3: was double that, it was forty one percent excellent are good?
Speaker 3: Now it's twenty three.
Speaker 2: So it's like, but my question is this, Yeah, certainly
Speaker 2: you you did this poll. This poll was early June,
Speaker 2: June first.
Speaker 3: To June fifth, right last week, right.
Speaker 2: Right, So the stock market had rebounded obviously. When President
Speaker 2: Trump announced the tariffs on air quotes here Liberation Day
Speaker 2: August April second, the market took a twenty percent hit roughly,
Speaker 2: and people who had four one k's and who watched
Speaker 2: the market carefully, and people who have investments in the market.
Speaker 2: But that has the market has come back, and I
Speaker 2: know that that today the market kind of yawned when
Speaker 2: I guess China and the United States announced that they
Speaker 2: had come to an agreement on tariffs, and the market
Speaker 2: actually lost today because I think that it had been
Speaker 2: built in to this to the last few weeks where
Speaker 2: the market has has gone straight up. Unemployment. Uh, it
Speaker 2: hasn't isn't horrible in Rhode Island to Massachusetts or New Hampshire.
Speaker 2: It's pretty much where the national averages. Gas prices have
Speaker 2: kind of stayed low, prices at the grocery store have
Speaker 2: kind of stabilized or come down. What do you attribute
Speaker 2: the fact that people now look at the economy here
Speaker 2: in New England? And again it's important as you mentioned today,
Speaker 2: this poll was done with in New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island,
Speaker 2: not Connecticut, not made not from month the three states, Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: Rhode Island, in New Hampshire. What do you attribute this
Speaker 2: this different this six month difference, or will it's a
Speaker 2: little bit more than six monthstri like that eight months
Speaker 2: difference that that when president uh, when when Vice President
Speaker 2: Harris was running her numbers here on the economy, we're
Speaker 2: pretty good, I mean either excellent good to fear seventy
Speaker 2: percent the poor you know, wasn't wasn't that bad And
Speaker 2: now it's really switched the excellent. A good portion of
Speaker 2: the excellent in good numbers have dropped into the fear category.
Speaker 2: Is that reality or is that just politics?
Speaker 3: You know, it's a little bit of both. So I
Speaker 3: guess two things come to mind when you ask that question.
Speaker 3: One is you have a different president, and when you
Speaker 3: have a different president, perceptions of the economy flipped. So
Speaker 3: when Biden was president, there were twice as many people
Speaker 3: saying excellent, are good as you said. Kamala House is
Speaker 3: running in October twenty twenty four. Now it's half of that,
Speaker 3: and Donald Trump's the president. So I think part of
Speaker 3: it is just Democrats being sour on Trump, and they're
Speaker 3: going to be sour on every question that they're asked
Speaker 3: pretty much. But I also think part of part of it,
Speaker 3: and this is unique to Massachusetts, is we're kind of
Speaker 3: vulnerable to some of these DOGE cuts more than people think.
Speaker 3: And we asked the question about DOGE cuts, and when
Speaker 3: you look at the data, it's pretty pretty powerful. Because
Speaker 3: I thought going into this question, you know, maybe twenty
Speaker 3: percent of respondents would be impacted by DOGE. We asked
Speaker 3: the question to you or anybody close to you. Have
Speaker 3: you or anybody close you've been impacted by DOGE? And
Speaker 3: I didn't expect the numbers to be forty percent forty
Speaker 3: two percent, which is what it was in Massachusetts, And
Speaker 3: it makes sense to me now that the pole is over,
Speaker 3: because you know, there are facts in research, cutbacks at
Speaker 3: the universities, cutbacks in hospitals and out of medical research.
Speaker 3: And look, Massachusetts is the leader in you know, colleges
Speaker 3: and universities, in hospitals. I mean we have we're you know,
Speaker 3: we're at that level. So the fact that forty two
Speaker 3: percent of Massachusetts voters either themselves were directly impacted by
Speaker 3: doche cuts or someone close to them speaks to an
Speaker 3: additional layer of anxiety and concern about the Massachusetts economy.
Speaker 3: And so I think it's a little bit about it's
Speaker 3: a little bit of perception where Democrats get sour on
Speaker 3: economy questions once the Republicans in office. But also that
Speaker 3: you know, some of these cuts are hitting people, and
Speaker 3: I think even your listeners probably know somebody who's scrambling
Speaker 3: a little bit. Now you know that maybe you know
Speaker 3: was working either directly indirectly for a hospital or research
Speaker 3: center or university and they're making cockbacks, and you know,
Speaker 3: and that reples that does affect your perception of the economy.
Speaker 2: My guess is David Paleologus really an extraordinary poster. We're
Speaker 2: lucky we have a couple of really good posters based
Speaker 2: here in Massachusetts, a one at Emerson College, one at
Speaker 2: Suffolk College, and we will focus on Dave Paleologus tonight there.
Speaker 2: This poll is available in the Globe and it's online
Speaker 2: as well. I'd like to sort of do a little
Speaker 2: bit of a poll with Dave. And if you've never
Speaker 2: talked to a poster before, maybe I'll ask you a
Speaker 2: couple of questions and find out how you feel about
Speaker 2: the economy. Again, I just I am baffled on some level,
Speaker 2: but I really understand that on other levels, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I am a very split mind here. I think that
Speaker 2: this just shows that the distrust of Trump is very
Speaker 2: deep throughout New England. He is He's a New Yorker,
Speaker 2: and there's that sort of animus. He obviously is taking
Speaker 2: some very dramatic actions that a lot of people are
Speaker 2: being impacted by. I love to know what you think.
Speaker 2: This is a question on the economy. People are really pessimistic.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: And if you're pessimistic and you were with the majority
Speaker 2: of voters in the Suffolk Globe poll conducted by Deve
Speaker 2: pale Logus, chime in. And if you, on the other hand,
Speaker 2: disagree with the results of the poll. I mean, the
Speaker 2: results of the poll are the results of the poll.
Speaker 2: But if you find yourself in the minority, and you
Speaker 2: are optimistic about what's going on, feel free and maybe
Speaker 2: Dave will ask you a couple of questions and and
Speaker 2: and flesh out your answers. So this is an opportunity
Speaker 2: to be asked by Deep Holster himself. But you've got
Speaker 2: to express your opinions first six one, seven, two, five, four, ten,
Speaker 2: thirty six, one, seven, nine three. I make this up
Speaker 2: as I go along. I listen to what Dave Paleologus said,
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to come up with something that might
Speaker 2: entice you to join the conversation. So the lines are
Speaker 2: wide open. Dave Paleologus doesn't bite. He's a good guy.
Speaker 2: He'll ask you some questions depending upon what your perspective is,
Speaker 2: what your perception is, what he believes your perception is.
Speaker 2: And we'll have a little bit of fun here talking
Speaker 2: with a poster on Nightside. My name's Dan Ray. Let
Speaker 2: him up back right right after this on night Side.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Delighted to be joined by Dave Paleologus. If you read
Speaker 2: the Boston Globe today, you'll see that there was a
Speaker 2: pretty substantial poll that Dave Paleologus did you know One
Speaker 2: of the uh, the the issues that was talked about
Speaker 2: was immigration, deporting immigrations living illegally in the US to
Speaker 2: their home countries. Again, that shows the New England voter,
Speaker 2: I think most clearly that was an area where Donald
Speaker 2: Trump had the most support, but he only has forty
Speaker 2: percent support. Now that is an issue that nationally he
Speaker 2: has much more than forty percent, But that to me
Speaker 2: underscores the dislike that a lot of people in Massachusetts
Speaker 2: or in New England, certainly Rhode Island, New Hampshire and
Speaker 2: Massachusetts after Donald Trump, because I think that a lot
Speaker 2: of people are pretty happy that that border has been
Speaker 2: tightened up around the country. Am I right or wrong
Speaker 2: on that?
Speaker 3: No, You're absolutely right about that. And you know, the
Speaker 3: deportations cut on race line. So among white voters' deportation
Speaker 3: was supported, you know, in the low forties, and among
Speaker 3: black and Hispanic voters it was you know, at thirty percent.
Speaker 3: So and then when we broke out New Hampshire, deportations
Speaker 3: was actually supported overall with fifty four percent of New
Speaker 3: Hampshire voters supporting it. So we did notice a race
Speaker 3: differential on the question, but on the question of ICE
Speaker 3: that was a little bit different. The idea of deporting
Speaker 3: criminals out of the United States is much more appealing
Speaker 3: to voters, even in Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Rhode Island
Speaker 3: than the methodology of ICE. And we tested the approval
Speaker 3: of ICE overall, it was only twenty eight percent and
Speaker 3: almost seventy percent said that they disapproved or strongly disapproved.
Speaker 3: And we also asked the question about the Tofts University
Speaker 3: graduate student was taken into custody the same kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Only sixteen percent approved and seventy percent either strongly disapproved
Speaker 3: or disapproved.
Speaker 2: So the optics of that arrest were brutal. And I
Speaker 2: read the editorial that she wrote.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It wasn't antisemitic, it was supportive of Palestinians. But I
Speaker 2: think that that was way over the top. And I
Speaker 2: also think that when they talk about collateral damage, I
Speaker 2: don't think the public understands that if they go into
Speaker 2: a house and they're looking for some MS thirteen gang
Speaker 2: banger and they happen to find two or three other
Speaker 2: people who they know to be MS thirteen gang bangers.
Speaker 2: That's the type of collateral damage that they should move on,
Speaker 2: not some eighteen year old kid from Milford who happens
Speaker 2: to be driving his father's car, even though the kid
Speaker 2: technically might be illegal. I think the public wants to
Speaker 2: see the so called bad ombres moved out of the country.
Speaker 2: And I realized that in New England, you know, uh,
Speaker 2: the the bad optical arrests only fuel the disdain that
Speaker 2: people have for the Trump administration and Trump policies. Let's
Speaker 2: let's get a caller in here for you, David, if
Speaker 2: we can. I got Mike and Beverly. Mike, I happen
Speaker 2: to know that you're a Trump supporter. You're almost Dave palaeologus.
Speaker 2: You can ask whatever question you want, and Dave may
Speaker 2: have a question or two for you.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Mike, Hey, can you hear me? Yes?
Speaker 2: I can go ahead.
Speaker 6: So yeah, so yeah, So I like to hear all
Speaker 6: these posts come from because I live on the North Shore.
Speaker 6: I'm in the fossil fuel business, the turking industry. You're like,
Speaker 6: everyone I talk though, let me hear these poles. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 6: when I talked to supports everything going on. So I
Speaker 6: love how these poles come out and all this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just find it.
Speaker 8: Fascinating these people, you know, all this pull somebody going on.
Speaker 2: I don't know who you're talking. But by the way, Dave,
Speaker 2: just for curiosity, are you working with a cell phone
Speaker 2: or you're working with a can and a string?
Speaker 3: Mike?
Speaker 2: Excuse me, Mike, Mike, I'm sorry, Mike. Do you have
Speaker 2: a are you working on with a cell phone? Here?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do me a favor. You know, if the part of
Speaker 2: the cell phone is the mouthpiece, would you put that
Speaker 2: near your mouth and speak into it directly? I think
Speaker 2: that will improve the clarity of what you're saying.
Speaker 8: Any mean?
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I mean where was the where's the microphone?
Speaker 2: But where's the where's the cell phone behind your ear
Speaker 2: or something? Come on, you got to talk into it.
Speaker 3: I'm in my truck.
Speaker 5: Dan, you're in a truck.
Speaker 2: You're on bluetooth. Okay? Uh, well fine, we heard what
Speaker 2: you said. Trust me, these polls are accurate. You may
Speaker 2: want to broaden your social group, uh, Dave, obviously, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Mike from BET does not support the polls. He doesn't
Speaker 2: understand them go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And hey, Mike, I get what you're saying, because
Speaker 3: when a poll comes out and it runs counter to
Speaker 3: your own beliefs and what you feel and what you
Speaker 3: hear from your friends and family members, it makes you
Speaker 3: immediately question the poll results. I understand that. And no
Speaker 3: matter how much Dan or I talk about how accurate
Speaker 3: Suffolk Polls are, you can go to the website and
Speaker 3: look us up. We're rated with everybody else. If you
Speaker 3: don't genuinely believe that what we do is authentic, there's
Speaker 3: really nothing anybody can say or do. I can tell
Speaker 3: you that we had a very good success rate in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. We were nationally ranked in twenty twenty
Speaker 3: and twenty twenty two. But I understand the skepticism, especially
Speaker 3: if you've never been called or you've never conducted a poll,
Speaker 3: because I often see on social media people will say
Speaker 3: who do they talk to? You know, who do they call?
Speaker 3: And and I've never been called and all of that.
Speaker 3: So don't feel guilt, embarrassed or bad about calling and
Speaker 3: being skeptical about polls. We deal with it all the time.
Speaker 3: And I got to tell you, Dan, you know, on
Speaker 3: this poll, and I really didn't talk to the Globe
Speaker 3: too much about this, But in this poll I could.
Speaker 3: I monitored the first night, but we usually do live monitoring.
Speaker 3: I monitored calls the first night. I couldn't believe how
Speaker 3: many people were afraid to answer a Suffolk University poll,
Speaker 3: not because of us, not because of the Globe, but
Speaker 3: because they wanted to know if we had their name,
Speaker 3: if their names were going to be, if they were
Speaker 3: going to be They were afraid of Trump. They were
Speaker 3: afraid to actually voice their opinions that somehow this information
Speaker 3: was going to And I monitored I think six calls
Speaker 3: in the first hour on day one, and three of
Speaker 3: them there were people who were just you know, nice people.
Speaker 3: They were just you know, and they would say, you know,
Speaker 3: I never would ask you this, I would just hang
Speaker 3: up or whatever, but you know, is this going to
Speaker 3: come back? And we would say no. I mean, if
Speaker 3: you want to be available to a Globe reporter for
Speaker 3: a quote or follow up interview, yes, but you don't
Speaker 3: have to and if you don't want to, we won't.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of nervousness about that with doing
Speaker 3: live call or polling.
Speaker 2: The other thing I just want to add from Mike.
Speaker 2: One thing, Hey, Mike, Yeah, Suffolk Suffolk Poll and U
Speaker 2: and Emerson Poll. They poll for a lot of companies
Speaker 2: and and they have to be accurate. If they're not accurate,
Speaker 2: and and they're accurate. Uh, these two polls posters that
Speaker 2: we use the UH Spencer Kimball from Emerson and UH
Speaker 2: and Dave Paleo Logus from Suffolk to the best in
Speaker 2: the country. Uh. You go back and look at their
Speaker 2: track record. You can see how they did in presidential elections,
Speaker 2: how they did in senate races. They pride themselves in
Speaker 2: their accuracy, Dave and Spencer. They want to simply to
Speaker 2: be correct. They you know, they're not. They don't have
Speaker 2: a rooting interest here. And if if they're able to find,
Speaker 2: let us say, a poll that that goes against the grain,
Speaker 2: and they're convinced of it, they stand by those polls.
Speaker 2: And when they do go against the grain, and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden there's an upset and they've predicted the upset,
Speaker 2: they zoom up in the ratings. So their interest is
Speaker 2: to get it right. Go ahead, Mike, I'll give you
Speaker 2: the last comment. Go right ahead.
Speaker 8: No, I just find it because I support small business.
Speaker 8: So you know, I go to small business sandwich shops,
Speaker 8: the coffee shops all the day. I talk to my
Speaker 8: friends and my vendors and other and my customers, and
Speaker 8: you know, I just find it past thing that you know,
Speaker 8: this poll about the situation going on. I don't get
Speaker 8: that feeling, but it is what it is about the
Speaker 8: ball I guess, I mean, I guess won't be revealed
Speaker 8: about it. You know, Okay, amazing how it works.
Speaker 3: To the people that you talk to in the coffee
Speaker 3: shops and so on? Are they mostly men or women?
Speaker 3: Or in what ages?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Forties and fifties and see yeah, yeah, are they mostly men?
Speaker 8: Mostly men?
Speaker 5: And women?
Speaker 3: Are forties and fifties? You don't, well, I would hope.
Speaker 2: All that there's no alien I mean, there's no no,
Speaker 2: no extraterrescuals you're talking to there. Hey, Mike, I appreciate
Speaker 2: your call, and I appreciate you your honesty. I appreciate
Speaker 2: it much. But I'm into my my news. Yeah, thank you,
Speaker 2: got to break for news. You're always welcome to call here. Mike.
Speaker 2: You know that a good one. Thank you, my friend
Speaker 2: Dave Pailley Loogus, you gave great answer and and I
Speaker 2: support the point that you would you You guys don't
Speaker 2: have a dog in the fight. You're you're not out
Speaker 2: there doing what is so called push polls to try
Speaker 2: to push one candidate on this topic or that topic.
Speaker 2: You're out there looking for accuracy. You're like the sports
Speaker 2: broadcaster who says, at the end of the fifth inning,
Speaker 2: the Red Sox are ahead, you know, seven to one.
Speaker 2: If they happen to lose the game eight seven doesn't
Speaker 2: mean that at the end of the fifth inning the
Speaker 2: broadcaster was wrong. They were ahead seven to one, but
Speaker 2: they lost the game. I mean, I feel that's the
Speaker 2: only thing I can I can compare it to. We
Speaker 2: got a bunch of calls here, Dave, can you can
Speaker 2: you stick with me for a little bit? Yeah? Sure, okay.
Speaker 2: And by the way, all the calls so far, men,
Speaker 2: We're going to get to Ramon and the truck Bill
Speaker 2: and Westwood and JT and Connecticut. I got one line
Speaker 2: at six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. I
Speaker 2: got one line at six one, seven, nine, three, one
Speaker 2: ten thirty. Love to get a couple of women callers
Speaker 2: in here to talk to Dave Paleologus. Feel free to
Speaker 2: ask him whatever question you want. I think that it's
Speaker 2: important for pollsters to hear from people, and for people
Speaker 2: to hear from pollsters, and to understand that this is
Speaker 2: all on the level, all on the level. Whether you
Speaker 2: believe it or not, it is on the level because
Speaker 2: it's in his interest to be right. We'll be back
Speaker 2: on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm deelling you Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep rolling here, Gonna go to Ramone
Speaker 2: in the truck. Ramone, Welcome, You're home with Suffolk University
Speaker 2: poster Dave Paleologus, Go right ahead, Ramone.
Speaker 3: Hey, good evening, Dan, Good evening.
Speaker 9: First, First, the fat boys break up.
Speaker 7: And now this, I mean, if they're really looking for criminals,
Speaker 7: I mean, they're never gonna find it in my home,
Speaker 7: a home depot. I mean, where are the all these
Speaker 7: guys that are trafficking women on this Chinese massage parlors,
Speaker 7: all these Italian bars and.
Speaker 9: So forth and so forth.
Speaker 7: I mean, something's got to be done about this.
Speaker 9: And like this kid in over there that is spent
Speaker 9: the week in jail that they were looking for he
Speaker 9: is dead, but I mean they were looking for him
Speaker 9: for driving speeding.
Speaker 7: I mean, that's that qualify for somebody to be devoted.
Speaker 2: Well, let's let's talk about that case. Okay, if you can,
Speaker 2: I agree with you that that the kids should not
Speaker 2: have been picked up his collateral damage apparently according to
Speaker 2: whatever ed I don't know if it's true or not.
Speaker 2: So you got it's got to be proven. This This
Speaker 2: dude like to drive about one hundred miles an hour
Speaker 2: in a residential area. That could be a problem, particularly
Speaker 2: when you're here illegally.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well I can't understand that. But still, I mean,
Speaker 9: there's worse, worse people that are out there, and they're
Speaker 9: not even looking for them.
Speaker 2: I mean, no, they are looking. They look that they
Speaker 2: have they have arrested a lot of bad people. Let
Speaker 2: me let me Ramone. I'm going to ask you a
Speaker 2: couple quick quesquestions. Okay, okay, if you had the authority,
Speaker 2: if you were the president of the United States or
Speaker 2: you were the head of ICE, would you deport MS
Speaker 2: thirteen gang members who have come here illegally?
Speaker 3: Correct?
Speaker 2: Good? Would you? Would you deport would prove.
Speaker 7: That they are gang members?
Speaker 9: I ain't got no problem with that.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, now, so that raises the question, Ramone, Ramone,
Speaker 2: go ahead. This raises the question, what's the standard of
Speaker 2: proof you have here? They're not walking around with membership
Speaker 2: cards like they remember the Mickey Mouse Club. Okay, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of people I've I watch every day the
Speaker 2: releases from the US Attorney's office in Boston. This person
Speaker 2: was here illegally. They've been convicted of this, or they've
Speaker 2: been charged with this. There's been a lot of bad
Speaker 2: people put away. Uh. And there's been a lot of
Speaker 2: bad people who are being sent to And guess what,
Speaker 2: I want every last one of the criminals who were
Speaker 2: here illegally out of the country. And I hope you
Speaker 2: agree with me.
Speaker 3: I agree with that. Good if somebody's here and documented and.
Speaker 9: They're gonna go get him out of factory. I mean,
Speaker 9: I think this worst characters out there that could be
Speaker 9: picked up. I mean, I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you, Ramona, I agree with you. Okay, Okay.
Speaker 9: And then I mean, you got this this thing.
Speaker 3: Going on in Los Angeles.
Speaker 9: If you remember a couple of days ago that they
Speaker 9: were saying that mister Trump is part of the Epstein file,
Speaker 9: then all of a sudden and all this comes out
Speaker 9: with the agitator. I think the.
Speaker 3: Focus the now.
Speaker 2: Well, first, first of all, this you know wrong that
Speaker 2: even Donald Trump deserves a little due process. I haven't
Speaker 2: seen any evidence that he that he was on the plane.
Speaker 2: That's but the bottom line is I guarantee you that
Speaker 2: that what happened in Los Angeles was planned for weeks. Okay.
Speaker 2: That's a big operation out there, and you got people
Speaker 2: out there burning police cars, waving Mexican flags, throwing cinder
Speaker 2: blocks off of on automobiles. It could be it could
Speaker 2: have been you or me driving on one oh one
Speaker 2: and have a cinder block come down. Okay, so those dudes, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in arguing that with your ramone. To
Speaker 2: be really honest with you, if you want to talk
Speaker 2: to Dave Paleologus, the poster, and if not, I'll move on. Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 7: I would just you know, seeing how the things are going.
Speaker 7: I mean, because for the first few days everything was
Speaker 7: peaceful over there.
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't peaceful. You think what
Speaker 2: you saw. Did you see the cars being burned in
Speaker 2: the street, did you see the heavy duty fireworks being
Speaker 2: thrown at police officers? Do you have any family members
Speaker 2: who are police officers ramon.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, do you but oh no, I do not,
Speaker 9: you do not.
Speaker 2: We'll try having some family members who are police officers.
Speaker 2: They're out there trying to enforce the law, and they're
Speaker 2: the cars are being ramon. Some night when when I
Speaker 2: don't have Dave Palely Logus here, I want you to
Speaker 2: call me and we can have a great conversation.
Speaker 7: I'm always looking out for what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate it, and I appreciate that having the
Speaker 2: courage to call me, and I think we probably agree
Speaker 2: more than you realize.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, man, you have thank you
Speaker 9: you Tube.
Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Thanks for calling, and we'll be right
Speaker 2: back on Nightside with Dave Paley Logus.
Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, we have full lines. I'm going to try
Speaker 2: to get to everybody quickly. Please help me out, folks,
Speaker 2: talk to my guest. Let's go to Bill and Westford. Bill,
Speaker 2: you're next on Nightside with Dave Paley Logus. Go right ahead.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hi, Dan, I've uh I've been listening to you
Speaker 5: since day one, and I've followed u. Mister Paelogus's work
Speaker 5: for some time, but this time around, I feel like
Speaker 5: the Suffolk polling has been calling the same hundred houses
Speaker 5: in Cambridge and not some conservative houses in Peebty of Alrica.
Speaker 5: Just seems like those numbers they don't.
Speaker 9: Jive for me.
Speaker 5: I have a diverse and wide age peer group and
Speaker 5: I could never get those numbers in my peer group.
Speaker 2: Okay, Dave, Dave, give him a quick response here. By
Speaker 2: the way, Paul rather Bill. Remember Dave Paleologus strives for accuracy.
Speaker 2: That's his business, Okay, that he would have no reason
Speaker 2: to put out numbers which were not were anything that
Speaker 2: he did not think was correct were correct? Go ahead, Dave.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so thanks for the question. I get it a lot,
Speaker 3: and it's okay. And I would say that you might
Speaker 3: have a diverse screw. They may be higher income or
Speaker 3: middle income. But keep in mind that Trump received thirty
Speaker 3: six percent of the vote in twenty twenty four, so
Speaker 3: when you only see his approval in the high twenties
Speaker 3: or low thirties, that's really not deviating too much from
Speaker 3: what he actually got. And now he's an incumbent president,
Speaker 3: he's being judged on that, so he's probably a little
Speaker 3: bit less than what people expected. And you know in
Speaker 3: New Hampshire he did a lot better, but lost to
Speaker 3: Harris also in New Hampshire, and also lost in and
Speaker 3: Rhode Island. But you're right. In Massachusetts. Look eighty seven
Speaker 3: cities and towns. Trump won eighty seven in this last
Speaker 3: election out of three hundred and fifty one cities in towns.
Speaker 3: It's not like he lost every city in town He
Speaker 3: won eighty seven cities in towns, which is a vast
Speaker 3: improvement over twenty sixteen when he only won fifty eight.
Speaker 3: So he clearly improved between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Bill, how did Trump do? How did Trump do on Westwardville?
Speaker 5: Unfortunately he didn't take the town, but you know, like
Speaker 5: some area towns he did well. He tipped it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Chelmsford was close. Some other communities that have grown in
Speaker 5: the last fifteen years he did well. And then on
Speaker 5: into southern New Hampshire. But no, I mean, I got
Speaker 5: to you commanded. The numbers are impressive as usual. I
Speaker 5: just the stark numbers that you present just kind of
Speaker 5: just I don't know, just it doesn't all right.
Speaker 2: People, I know, I thank you for calling. I just
Speaker 2: want to get to at least a couple more before
Speaker 2: we're done here. But thank you, man, I appreciate it. Okay,
Speaker 2: thank you. All right, let's go to Connecticut. JT and Connecticut. JT.
Speaker 2: You got to be quick for me. Go ahead, JT.
Speaker 4: Hey, Dan, I only got four points.
Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Try two okay, go ahead, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I appreciate your back.
Speaker 2: Parch thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh two.
Speaker 4: I want to say thank you Dave. It's a lot
Speaker 4: of hard work that he does, and I appreciate him.
Speaker 5: Going out and doing all this for us.
Speaker 2: Well he does. It is a business. It's it's charitable work.
Speaker 3: Here, go ahead, which it's so hard work.
Speaker 2: Ye, go ahead, JJ. What's your question you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Three.
Speaker 4: I want to point out that I used to cringe
Speaker 4: listening to you when of my pillow commercials are on,
Speaker 4: because that guy's a joke.
Speaker 2: Well, I made a decision to with just so you know, okay,
Speaker 2: I will tell you that I made a decision based
Speaker 2: upon his activities around January sixth, in the dance of
Speaker 2: January sixth, when he was walking around with files, I
Speaker 2: made a decision to withdraw my indorcence of my pillows.
Speaker 2: I still think it's a great pillow and I sleep
Speaker 2: on my pillows. And they asked a long time.
Speaker 4: But I understand there's a paycheck from my Heart Radio
Speaker 4: and you don't have much say in it.
Speaker 2: So I'm just going no, no, just set the record straight, JT.
Speaker 2: I went to my general manager at the time and said, look,
Speaker 2: I want to withdraw my endorsement. I have you know
Speaker 2: children who said to me, how can you keep endorsing
Speaker 2: this product? They said, it's a good product, but it
Speaker 2: affects him. So you call me privately and I'll tell
Speaker 2: you the whole story. And and iHeart was very kind.
Speaker 2: My general manager was kind, said Dan, if that's what
Speaker 2: you believe, no problem, go right ahead.
Speaker 4: J And the last point was cannegative ronovo applause for
Speaker 4: Yip and brighton because he's listening.
Speaker 2: To you right now.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to say Hi, Yipp.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what we'll well, we won't give
Speaker 2: you a rund of applause, but you've had a chance
Speaker 2: to say hi to Yip. Okay, thanks j T. Appreciate
Speaker 2: you calling all right a good one. Let me go
Speaker 2: next to Catherine in Marshfille. Catherine, you're next on nice
Speaker 2: side with Dave Paleologus. Go ahead, Katherine, thank you.
Speaker 10: For taking this call. I would like to ask Dave
Speaker 10: if he has qualifiers or identifiers when he has pollings
Speaker 10: such as age, party affiliation, sex.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, David. That's a great question, Katha. That's a
Speaker 2: great question.
Speaker 3: I know the answer to.
Speaker 2: Dave will give you a quick answer on it. Go ahead, David.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So in this poll, we had three states, so
Speaker 3: it was important for us to match the all of
Speaker 3: those demographics with the demographics of the state. So like
Speaker 3: in Massachusetts, for example, twenty eight percent of Massachusetts voters
Speaker 3: the Democrats, ten percent of Republicans, and then the remainder
Speaker 3: are unenrolled. And in New Hampshire it's like a third
Speaker 3: to third, a third slightly more registered Republicans, the Democrats,
Speaker 3: and the rest are undeclared or independent. And then in
Speaker 3: Rhode Island as well, and in each of the states,
Speaker 3: the gender break is fifty one to forty seven because
Speaker 3: we do ask gender preference, and we also quote of
Speaker 3: an education level. Obviously, in Massachusetts the total college, the
Speaker 3: college and advanced degrees are higher than they are in
Speaker 3: Hampshire and in Rhode Island, but the overall region matched
Speaker 3: exactly what we have for set as data on that too, so.
Speaker 10: You get a good demographic fling now and the other
Speaker 10: question I was going to answer, I think initially back
Speaker 10: a while ago, Dan had asked how we felt about
Speaker 10: the economy. I feel optimistic. I will feel more optimistic
Speaker 10: if this big, beautiful bill gets passed from the Senate
Speaker 10: back to the House. What is your line of work
Speaker 10: I'm retired now, Kathri Quick was a teacher, but now
Speaker 10: I'm retired, Cathy Quick.
Speaker 2: Question, has your four oh one k or your pension
Speaker 2: funds recovered a little bit in the last couple of months? Yes,
Speaker 2: good for you, Good for you, Kathain, Just your first
Speaker 2: time calling my show or no?
Speaker 10: No, but I don't call that often.
Speaker 2: But I call more often because one, you're well educated,
Speaker 2: you're well spoken, and I really would appreciate if you'd
Speaker 2: call me more often.
Speaker 10: Okay, thank you, Dan, Thank you Dan.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: You're welcome.
Speaker 2: Paiely logus. We got Carlos hanging on the line, but
Speaker 2: I'm I've got a guest coming up at ten, so
Speaker 2: therefore I got to break away. I'm going to be
Speaker 2: talking about a guy wrote a book about Mike Ducaccus,
Speaker 2: I think you're going to enjoy the conversation with Scott Kerman,
Speaker 2: but we'll have to have you back. You lit the
Speaker 2: lit the phones up tonight, buddy, Let's do it again. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm in.
Speaker 3: Thanks.
Speaker 2: Dave Paley Logus just one of the I think the
Speaker 2: two he and and Spencer Kimball. I can't pick between them.
Speaker 2: They are they are a one call polsters in my opinion.
Speaker 2: To Mark and Pelvis, if you want to stick in
Speaker 2: the line, you can. If not, we'll we'll talk about
Speaker 2: Mike Toucaccus with an author who just wrote a book
Speaker 2: about his career back on night Side right after the
Speaker 2: eleven