Speaker 1: I'll start to you to present some off the bench
with Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Off the bench with Jacob Hester and Bob Abert.
Speaker 3: I got to come off the pitch.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: Here's Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert.
Speaker 5: Yo head and y'all, welcome back to o TV our
number two.
Speaker 3: I hope everybody's having a great time.
Speaker 5: T Bob, Jake, Alandra and Dayla hanging out with you
this morning.
Speaker 3: Uh, everybody's back.
Speaker 5: I want to talk about Deer Carr's contract here in
a second. I gotta see this though after after after
a week spit at dizzy. You know what amazes me,
and it's it's I don't know how exactly uh people
do this. Now, I should give a shout out to
Vall Fitness every morning there at like five am. Absolutely
love it. But like they got me ready for this
trip right because Bob's about forty pounds now and he
thinks he's a baby and just wants to be carried
around twenty four to seven still and so like, yeah,
I was basically logging miles of the forty pound pack
in my arms or on my shoulders, and I felt
great the entire week, and I think it's because of
All've got me physically ready. Right, So I'm thinking, like,
you know, I'm feeling great, but about it, I'm still
like very sore, but I feel like I'm in great shape.
The amount of people that are in god awful shape
but will somehow reach deep and push themselves to their
absolute physical limit at these parts, like credit to you.
It's unbelievable. I'm talking about people who probably haven't seen
a thousand steps in a thousand days, and yet here
they are grinding ten miles, thighs, rubbing, just dripping a
lot of I mean, just insane. The amount of mental toughness.
All I could think about was if I had that
mental toughness every day. I mean, that's all they need.
That's what I'm saying they needed. They need to tap
into that same thing and bring it out in their
everyday life because you have it inside you. All I
could think about was Tommy Moffatt, you know talking about
how you know your body your mind is weak because
your body can do it like true. I see it firsthand.
I'm on tom Sawyer Adventure Island, and I saw a
diabetic woman as round as she is tall with one
leg on Tom Sawyer, Yes, shout out Tom Sawyer. Rest
in peace.
Speaker 3: Man. It's closing down later this year and we tore
it up there. What's that coming? Like a Cassland or something.
Speaker 5: Getting rid of one of the OG's one of the
things that's not like you know that a little free
range right, it's basically just a giant two islands where
the playgrounds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's awesome.
Speaker 2: Don't they already have a cars though in.
Speaker 3: In l A? Yeah?
Speaker 5: No, not not not in l A, not not in Orlando.
Speaker 6: Well, then go to l A if you want cars.
Speaker 3: It is I mean, look again, I get it in that.
Speaker 5: Of course you want to update things for the new generation.
But that little Adventureland section is kind of like the
last vestige of Walt's original vision right before everything, because
it's going to annoy me. And this sounds dumb, but
what's really going annoy me? Like right now, it's Adventureland,
it's Tom sotore around. It's all very clear cut, simply named.
Pretty soon here like trademarks will be filed. It will
be like are you excited for Lightning McQueen's race Speedway
at cars Land? Cars Land Disney or I like, it's
just going to be so corporate and so buttoned up,
and and and and you're just losing a little bit of.
Speaker 3: The soul there that Tom Sawyers has.
Speaker 5: Yea, and eventually in a simpler time, you know, climb
through caves and bushes and barrel bridges.
Speaker 6: It's happening all throughout the world.
Speaker 3: They're taking away the color.
Speaker 6: Yeah, have you seen McDonald's taco bell?
Speaker 3: What is this?
Speaker 6: Why you seem like just modern buildings?
Speaker 5: Yes, so I see like all these threads about how
color is draining from our society, but I never read them.
Why are they saying it? I mean, I agree, demoralize
to keep us down? Yeah, the nineteen eighty four, just
the big gray. Yes, I'm doing my part. Where's y'all's
color at?
Speaker 6: I don't ever wear color?
Speaker 3: I don't either. They got us, Yeah, I got us.
Speaker 6: EJ. Manuel's neighbor Devon gotcha. How is these he was
trying to.
Speaker 3: Think, he was trying to say it three different ways.
Speaker 7: Yeah, got chockstchos.
Speaker 3: He didn't understand how those letters made that sound true.
I mean, you know, like not not not that. Yeah,
his neighbor.
Speaker 6: Though, Yeah, gonna be on the Saints.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I saw that this morning, driving in for
a seventh rounder. Uh, this is somebody that has started
basically his entire NFL career.
Speaker 3: Seventh rounder they gave. Oh yeah, I've got to saying
he got he get drafted? Was he like third maybe fourth?
Speaker 2: For gotcha?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Either way, he got a big contract.
Speaker 4: I mean he's had a good he had a great career,
he had a great college career. I think it's a
good it's a good move I think by the Saints
to be able to get a player that For the Patriots,
they're going in a different direction. They're trying to get younger.
They've got all this money to spend. They're probably going
to hit a complete reset on their team. You give
up a seventh rounder still a player that has multiple
years left I think of productive play.
Speaker 3: It's actually a decent move by the Saint How long
how long has gotcha have been in the league?
Speaker 6: Now since twenty seven years?
Speaker 3: Damn quick? Doesn't it?
Speaker 5: Somebody who always too even at LSU was it seems
to always play over his head, has to play a
bit out of position.
Speaker 3: Remember Randa lining him up? Is that true nose?
Speaker 5: Basically saying that, look, he doesn't have the prototainable nose size,
but the bottom line, we need somebody who can't be
one on one blocked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was Godshaw.
Speaker 5: And then he goes to the Patriots, a notoriously hard
organization in which to succeed, one of the ultimate kind
of meritocratic organizations, and does very well for himself. So
shout out to d Vaughan. Yeah, as Saints they like
LSU players now that Sean Payton is no longer in charge.
If only they didn't like Derek Carr so much, because
this is pretty shocking, guys. So the Saints exercise a
clause in Derek Carr's contract to restructure the deal to
free up media cap space and uh basically ensure that
he will be the quarterback next season.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: There's a couple interesting parts of this story to me.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: The one I want to get into in a little
bit is the fact that this makes next year exactly
the same now as this year in terms of making
a decision like it kind of sucks, Like, is this
restructure actually mean that Derek Carr is going to be
your quarterback for the next two seasons? It's it's hard
for me to and and and maybe like maybe there's
some Saints cap experts listening who would who would uh,
somebody this is wrong. But from where I said and
everything I've read, it's hard to see how you're not
in the exact same situation nexterp.
Speaker 3: But we'll get into that. The first part, though, is.
Speaker 5: Nick Underhill and others intimating nobody given too much concrete
information here, but intimating Jake.
Speaker 3: That Derek Carr wanted out.
Speaker 5: Derek Carr wanted to explore his options and that he
wanted to and he was willing to work with the
Saints in order to do so.
Speaker 3: But it was these Saints who were not willing.
Speaker 5: To let him walk and basically said, no, you're staying
here and we're exercising and restructuring you. So I think
there's a few different ways to take that. First off,
the continued I think like, as far as relationships go,
the feeling between Derek Carr and the city is what
it is, and nobody's going to be willing to extend
the olive branch to make a change. Derek Carr did
nothing during the Super Bowl to be Forard facing h
It's just again, it feels like two parents staying in
it for the kids until they graduate, Yes, until they
finish high school, and then they'll move on. But they're
sleeping in separate bedrooms. And I don't think that's going
to change.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't feel great when you hear that, because
it makes you feel like, in his mind, he kind
of thought that it was over, the relationship was done.
And again, like all these Saints were right there at
the convention Center for the Super Bowl and you know,
having a good time spreading the love of the New
Orleans and the city, and he was nowhere to be seen.
It's like, Okay, well that's that's kind of maybe over.
And then when you hear reports like this, it's like, okay,
even in his mind he thought it was over, and
so like you're bringing back. I think it just tells
you the Saints one, they didn't think Spencer Ratler was
ready to be a full time starting quarterback in their mind.
I mean after you know, Kellen Moore probably sat down,
watched tape, had discussions with you know, nuss Meyer and
everybody on staff.
Speaker 3: They're at nine.
Speaker 4: They probably explored what would it take for us to
get one of the top two quarterbacks in this draft.
They didn't like the asking price, said we're not doing that.
Speaker 3: So what do you do?
Speaker 4: Well, you fall back on what you have, which is
Derek Carr, and you convert you know, forty million dollars
to a signing bonus, because what was that It was the
thirty million dollar base salary, then the ten million he
had come in as far as a roster bonus. All
that now is going to be converted to a signing bonus.
And you know, he just continue to kick the can
down the road. But it feels like they looked at
it and they all came together as a new staff
and said, well, this is the best option.
Speaker 5: Yeah, which again I think objectively in terms of fielding
the best team you can next year, I do think
that's true. But you mentioned kicking the can, and here
we arrive at the part of anything that's going to
make people real unhappy and probably upset with Nickie Loomis.
When you hear reports that Derek Carr maybe wanted out,
Loomis sides to keep him in.
Speaker 3: And you can say Kellen Moore.
Speaker 5: Right, because I don't think Loomis makes that decision independent
of Kellen Moore, not after he just hired him.
Speaker 3: So really it is Kellen Moore to be fair.
Speaker 5: But what it results in is you kick the can down,
like Jake said, you push more than thirty million dollars,
you convert it into signing bonus. So he's still going
to get his forty million, but you convert thirty million
signing bonus and you spread it out over avoidable years
in the end of the deal. So his cap number
for this year's down to twenty one million. But here's
where it gets icky is twenty twenty six cap figure
now sixty seven million, and he gets a pay raise
next year from forty to fifty million in salaries and bonuses. Uh.
And so here's a direct quote from Nick Underhill's New
Orleans Dote football article quote. So this will be an
even bigger issue twelve months from now, with even more
dead money looming if they decide to part ways. Then
So again, that's what I need to ask the experts,
because this feels when you make this deal, this actually
feels like a two year commitment to me, because again
I don't I mean, you capit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the cap at sixty nine point two million.
Speaker 5: And the thing is you're going to six and I'm
sure you're going to lop off twenty or thirty million
out of that and spread it into avoidable years, and
you'll probably be paying Derek Carr like ten million against
the cap for the next couple of years, even when
he's not in a Saints uniform. But we mentioned that
things of relationship already feels like it's over, but monetarily,
the golden handcuffs may be such neither party wants to
lose the house, and so they might have to stick
in this for two more.
Speaker 4: Years if there was a better option, Like it feels
like if the Saints were picking at three and not nine,
we'd be having a different conversation, And if they had
any kind of room to wiggle around and bring in
another top tier quarterback, they would, But after seeing what
you have available, it just feels like they said, this
is all we can do if we want to be
competitive in year number one.
Speaker 3: This is the best option.
Speaker 4: But like you said, this pretty much guarantees you paying
Derek Carr.
Speaker 3: For a long period of time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's gonna be multiple years where he is not
on your team where you're gonna be paying Derek Carr
sixty nine point two million cap hit next year is ludicrous,
but it's what they felt like they had to do.
Speaker 5: And also it's it's one of those deals where it's like,
after reading that, you're like, oh man, well we have
the discussion of do you rip the band aid off?
But that's where I feel like I had a bit
of a misunderstanding. I'll just be honest that I had
to miss some misunderstanding about this is that I thought
that if you did this year, that even with the restructure,
that you'd be in a better position next season. Like
when we were having these conversations of Okay, do you
rip the band aid off now?
Speaker 3: Or do you spread it out over the next couple
of years.
Speaker 5: Maybe deal with it this year and then you get
out from underneath it next year. You're not out from
underneath anything. No, So I feel like I missed some
context that would have caused me to want to put
my thumb on the scale more for just ripping the
band aid off now and getting out from under neath
it entirely, because now it feels like you've spread this
thing out even.
Speaker 3: More and you're committed even more again.
Speaker 5: Underhill had a great line in his article, quoting writer
Peter Finney does. Peter Finny once called Mike Dicka a
visitor to New Orleans, and my god, Nick is right
about that. It certainly feels like Derek Carr is a
visitor to New Orleans. A car bit bagger, if you will,
A Chipotle eater. What a red flag was right there
in front of us, I mean put it up there
with Adam Gase's amphetamine eyes in his New York Jets
opening press conference in terms of red flags that we
should have known that disaster was impending.
Speaker 7: Can we be clear that Chipotle is good though, it's
just a strange choice.
Speaker 5: I feel like as far as like quick service places go,
they got good ingredients, you know, saw.
Speaker 6: Like New Orleans, that's not where I'm gonna go.
Speaker 8: Yeah. And a guy who lived in Cally his whole life,
like you grew up there with the Fresno, played for
the Raiders and he's like I went to Chipotle and.
Speaker 3: Like so yeah, I mean, here's the deal.
Speaker 5: Just a lie, you know, say you went somewhere else,
like you don't, like like say you went to Just
just ask the local NERNSR guy, Hey where should? I mean,
I'm sure they brought him to like commanders during the
free agent process or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, So I don't know, somewhere, big red flash.
Speaker 6: He said that just to be a d bag, big
red flush.
Speaker 3: Mitchell Knap says, Devin Snow said it best.
Speaker 5: You never know how many more Saints games he got
left to watch. Each one is precious. Derek and Mickey
ruining people's lives they are so uh yeah, I'm not
gonna lie. It's a little. It's a little. It's a
little disheartening, discartening, but who knows. Perhaps if you just
want to be positive, it's that maybe Kellen Moore unlocked
something I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I thought Kubiak did a find like I had problems
with Carmichael. I thought Kubiak did a fine John. You
knows what if you I don't know. I know it's
a dark time for the New Orleans Saints. It's a
dark twob I.
Speaker 3: Got its own issues to worry about now.
Speaker 4: In Seattle, Yeah, they're just going full full reset up there.
Nobody there traded Gino traded dk wait.
Speaker 5: I missed the Geno trade win of that haven't yes
Friday No Friday Friday evening third round.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: Anthony U what was it that you mentioned the sixty
million dollar cap hit. That is one story I saw
last week, Dak Prescott, what a funny headline restructures thirty
million freed up in space, still has a fifty million
dollar caphit?
Speaker 3: What the world kind of contract you for him? Had
a dollar.
Speaker 8: Like by restructuring, Like, that's the only thing I'll give
Jake credit for. He restructured back and say they now
have fifty six.
Speaker 2: Million dollars in cap spit. Oh okay, but here's the thing.
He's not gonna sign anybody because he didn't last long.
Speaker 3: So and he said he said that there was nobody
they were looking for so exactly.
Speaker 5: I don't believe him, though me thinks the lady doth
protest true much. Remember it last year he was like,
we're going to be aggressive, right, and then they did
nothing and he's this actor.
Speaker 3: Exactly, thank you, a good actor, thank you.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. I saw that this year, you
saying they're not going to do anything.
Speaker 3: He's got some big up asleep I think, so just
wait ta tech, I'm calling it.
Speaker 4: Let's go. Jered Gotchaw's contract, by the way, Uh, let
me see he got restructured. I had the numbers pulled up,
so he was do thirteen and a half million over
the next two years with four million dollars guaranteed. But
he is going to restructure that.
Speaker 3: It was part of the.
Speaker 4: Deal whenever he's going to the Saints, so that that's
going to get redone and so that number is going
to be obviously lower.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, let's go, gotcha.
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celebrating his sixteenth birthday today State champ at Edna car.
Been a good year for my boy. Happy birthday, aj Hey,
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Speaker 1: Welcome in to the best morning sports this show around
off the bench with Hester and T Bob.
Speaker 3: What's happening y'all?
Speaker 5: Van Lathan wants to know top five Jedis of all time.
I don't have to go Qui gon Jin number one.
Speaker 3: Uh Anthony Robinson left back for the United States, means
now you can commit annumber five. We'll give him number five.
I'm not getting higher in that. His names. He goes
by Jedi, We'll go Qui gon obi wan. Hmm, good song.
Speaker 5: Maybe Mace Window. I'll have to think on this further. Taylor,
what do they call you Qui goon jin?
Speaker 3: Is that right? Sure? Oh, that must be me.
Speaker 5: Speaking of something that I loved over the weekend. Shout
out to Hunt Palmer Man Hunt Palmer tweeting yesterday a
lot of what what do you say? A big day
at the box? Jared Jones two hits home run, Stephen
Milum two hits home run, Josh Peerson grand slam and
a walk, and Keller Joseph Palmer eight.
Speaker 3: Pounds four ounces.
Speaker 5: Hey there we go here to the Palmer family adding
to their brood.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 6: All I'm getting out of this is that he could
have gone to First Go last weekend.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 6: Congrats he was so.
Speaker 3: Sad, he was.
Speaker 2: He was very depressed about it.
Speaker 3: It's very tough. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I did see the boys diving into the Lazy River. Yeah,
right after they won. I love that that that's very cool.
Speaker 7: We talked about that too, how this team just has
like a different feel to it than it did last year.
And yeah, Jay talks a lot about big team little me,
and it really does seem like it's hitting hard.
Speaker 3: Big team little me. Now that's interesting. I've never heard
that before, says I love that.
Speaker 5: I've heard a lot of ways of saying that, but
I've never heard that way.
Speaker 3: That's a really good slogan to uh to lock onto.
Speaker 6: Tell him the bats?
Speaker 3: Uh did tell me? Just move the hockey puck? Films?
Speaker 5: Oh okay, it's just that that's.
Speaker 3: Out of nowhere.
Speaker 5: The Saints helmet just jiggled at like I can't choose
the hockey puck.
Speaker 3: I was like a ghost of good quarterback play, just
good question. Want to move to the hockey puck?
Speaker 5: Maybe I actually knock something if I had to guess,
but uh wow.
Speaker 8: Because that thing's got some weight to it.
Speaker 6: You know, I really moved that hockey puck.
Speaker 3: Bro Did y'all see? Speaking of weight? Uh, did y'all see?
Was it was it Billy Wagner getting the call that
uh that that he's going to be in the Hall
of Fame. He's I mean he's going in.
Speaker 5: Okay, maybe we'll break this down in the nine o'clock hour.
Uh and and I got I like, because I saw
the video that I saw, I'm going to here. I'm
this is not an original T Bob joke or take.
But I'll show you all the video and you tell
me what stands out to you when you see Billy
Wagner getting the call that he's getting in the Hall
of Fame something else. I also loved over the weekend
where the Chubby jd Vance memes over the last week
started to take on life. It now it's probably run
its course because it got so extreme.
Speaker 6: JD is even getting it on it.
Speaker 5: See yeah then then maybe then maybe the maybe maybe
it's it's it's over now.
Speaker 3: Uh what did he do? I've not seen that.
Speaker 6: He posted He like posted one of them.
Speaker 5: Okay, I mean, yeah, you gotta lean into it at
this point. But yeah, those things were At first thought
it was just my algorithm, and then I was like,
oh wait, no, the entire human consciousness is obsessed with this.
Speaker 3: It's like, what do we do with I missed all that, Like,
didn't see any Chubby jd Vance memes. That's crazy, I know,
but it's.
Speaker 5: Just it was like, I feel like every time I
opened my phone for anything, a different version of a
chubby or jd Vance was staring back at me.
Speaker 3: I didn't see it.
Speaker 9: He posts somebody posted I forgot who a selfie with
him in a helicopter and he actually did look a
little chubby in the face in it, And they're like,
how is this a real picture?
Speaker 3: Are you? I saw that one? Yeah, it definitely did.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 5: No Josh Thompson with LSU right now to open up
spring practice. This is, of course the Northwestern in tier
offensive lineman that we believe will likely be a starter
on this team, and that l SU will be relying
on Tatae. Why is he not here? Is he not
coming to l s U at all?
Speaker 8: No, he's coming out. It was something with his classes.
He wanted to get his degree. He's like a few
hours away from getting that. So as soon as he
gets that he will join the team. It just will
not be able to start a spring But look, that's
that's not necessarily awful in my opinion, just because he's
been there, done that. I mean, he's played in college
for four years. Like he'll be He'll be fine if
he's here here in the summer and can get some
of your younger guys some experience, though, some of those
some of those guys that that.
Speaker 2: Enrolled in in the spring.
Speaker 8: I mean, I think Josh Thompson is going to be
a starter, but I mean, look a carrieus Kerrent is
a guy that could take advantage of this. Boo d
Lan as a guy that could take advantage of this
some guys that are fighting for spots.
Speaker 3: It's a good point.
Speaker 5: It's a good point by you because certainly it does
make it a heavier lift on Josh now to come
in and start right away. If his first action with
the team now, he'll be training during the summer. But
if your first like practice action with the team is
in fall, campus's not a very long time.
Speaker 3: Well when would a quarter system end, because I'm assuming
that's what they're on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are on a quarter, yes.
Speaker 4: So I guess you'd have to find out like when
that is, because he could finish up and you know,
be here sooner than if he was on semester. Obviously,
if he only has this quarter left, yeah, what it
sounds like, well quarters.
Speaker 5: Twenty five cents until you may not know this, so
a quarter in fractions is actually one fourth. Yeah, fourth,
So if we take the twelve months and we in
the four.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's how quarter systems work, but
you know, there we go. Maybe after three.
Speaker 4: Months somebody went to Louisiana Tack, which is also on
the quarter system.
Speaker 3: Let us know either way.
Speaker 5: No, Josh Thompson for Spring, I don't mind that spin zone, Taylor.
I didn't love this at first because ideally, like with
so many new starters on that offensive line, I want
them to have as much time as possible together. But
you do raise a good point in that in terms
of who do those Spring reps mean more to Thompson
or some of these younger guys. I am with you
that they mean more to the younger guys. So so
that's not a bad spin zone by you. Now for
Thompson again, I think it. You know, credit to him
when he get his degree. I see why it's Northwestern.
Everything else is so close. But he does make it
a bit tougher on himself, like you, you kind of
crack open that door, Jake, not to be penciled in
as the immediate starter.
Speaker 3: If one of these.
Speaker 5: Young cats gets hot, takes a step forward, like he
could have a real ass competition on his hands come
fault time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the things we didn't get to spend
a lot of time on because of the time and
when it happened in the sports calendar, and also I
think it was a ballgame. I think LSU fans weren't
as dieled into because it was the Texas Bowl. But
the young offensive line and the line that played in
that game, considering it was really just a lot of
patchwork and it felt like it was going to be
a bomb squad.
Speaker 3: They did pretty well. They really did.
Speaker 4: You saw them play hard in that game and they
had success on the ground and through the air, and that,
as we talked about during the time, that was going
to be a great springboard for them going into spring
practice because they've gotten reps like as a starter against
a quality Big twelve team that had won what five
six games in a row at that point, and that
was always going to be very beneficial for them. And
so like now they get an opportunity to continue that.
And if you're LSU, it's actually not a bad spot
because you're going to have somebody that is going to
be motivated to have because what he didn't get here
for two weeks, right, and so Chad saying March twenty seven.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Matt just texted us and he said quarter ends
March twenty four, he'll be here for the second half
of spring.
Speaker 6: Sports.
Speaker 4: Do now are three month theory proven correct? There big
math show, OTB known math show. But those now they.
Speaker 3: Get two weeks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's that's a long time in spring practice.
And so you hope your hope is for Brad Davis
they take advantage of that and then they make it
hard to get them out of the lineup. So hope
you know, you see some young players go out there
and realize the opportunity ahead of them.
Speaker 5: Uh so, Josh Thompson again exactly, Well, like that that is,
I mean, as we go to break, do we all
agree on this This team's potential all revolves around how
this offensive line is. Yeah, because everywhere else they look set,
they look complete, They seem to have veterans and or
a lot of talent and not say they don't have
it there, but like that is is the the position
group that will decide how good or bad this team is.
Speaker 8: At least on offense. I mean, I think it's I
think it's O line in safety. I think you're still
pretty light there. But like I was talking about a
little bit last so.
Speaker 5: Like offline, I would argue more impactful than than safety, certainly.
Speaker 8: I was talking about a little bit last week, like
look at look at who you lost. You lost Mason Taylor.
That's a big loss, but I think he did a
pretty good job of replacing him. You lose Karen Lacy,
who was kind of like your de facto number one,
but kind of late in the season. It want to
be an Aaron Anderson. You got Anderson back, you got
Thomas Mack. You have Nick Anderson, who's six foot five.
You didn't have anybody like that a year ago. You
got Barrion Brown, who's a burner trade as will probably
play more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I for a full season.
Speaker 4: Like how much did that change the dynamic? Just having
him in that ball game you saw like what you
were missing.
Speaker 3: Even probably end up in the SEC Championship if you
have full strength Hilton Hilton, Like.
Speaker 8: Even the Oklahoma game, like you fell behind nelscot Her,
but he came back and he threw back to back
touchingdowns to Chris Hilton and then like you went from
having no deep threats a lot like Barrion Brown's going
to be a deep thread for you.
Speaker 2: Chris Holten is going to be one. You're better at
every position.
Speaker 8: Outside of the offensive line, puttying nuts because he's coming
into his second year.
Speaker 5: So again, that is the group to watch the spring
this fall, and that will ultimately decide the just how
far this team can go? I can go the waan.
I screwed it up. I was trying to see Hercules.
I can go the distance, but I combined it with mulan.
Let's get down to business.
Speaker 4: I know you're gonna hate this. They are making a
live action Hercules movie again.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 5: I think the worst part is what that does for
me is just nothing, just completely nothing, just completely nothing.
Okay live action, sure, yeah, sure whatever.
Speaker 3: I hate that.
Speaker 5: It's become just like we have, uh no ideas. Let's
what have we not made live action yet? Hercules a
very interesting soundtrack in some really high highs and then.
Speaker 3: Just some kind of forgettable like Loo.
Speaker 5: But like the Bangers and Hercules are certified all time
good Bangers just doesn't quite hold the consistency throughout the album.
Speaker 7: The thing is that they're mostly disappointing, like the live
action version of movies, like they were actually pretty good?
Speaker 6: Then fine, what.
Speaker 8: I would say, y'all probably didn't actually enjoyed Aladdin.
Speaker 5: I thought Aladdin soulless. Yeah, I remember Will Smith was
the genie.
Speaker 3: It was so.
Speaker 5: Again the word that I described the movie is antiseptic.
I felt like it was in an operating room. Just
was like focus tested to death. So just three d
cgi blah blah blah. I would say the Beauty and
Beast one was actually pretty good. Watson that was okay.
I didn't I didn't like the Lion King.
Speaker 3: I didn't see it, but I've listened to the soundtrack
my kids a little.
Speaker 6: The dumbbo Aren't there two live action Lion Kings?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: No, Yeah, I know that's so stupid.
Speaker 5: Now you can learn how Scar got named Scars like
I have go to Scar. I mean, I just need
It's like, I don't need to.
Speaker 3: Know Scar's backstory. I understand he's just a bad guy
who wants to Why.
Speaker 6: Are we trying to sympathize with evil people?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think, uh oh, what was it? Uh oh?
I don't know. I didn't see the movie.
Speaker 5: But actually the New Little Mermaid soundtrack, the new songs.
It has a couple of good new songs. Yeah yeah,
so maybe that's a good one. But otherwise I think
so ill you spend a good one?
Speaker 3: All right? When we get back, more TV to.
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Speaker 1: Welcome in to the best morning sports this show around
Off the Bench with Hester and t Bob.
Speaker 5: Ye.
Speaker 3: What's going on y'all.
Speaker 5: Congratulations Joey LeBlanc one of our good chatters.
Speaker 3: Since we've got a little boy in the way, do
it at the end of August? Hell yeah, dude, we go
say now so I fell? Hell yeah, Joe, you and
Mama stays strong to the end. It's journey. It's going
to be very, very fun.
Speaker 5: There is no high like the one that you get
when you have a child, especially that first one. Scary,
but uh incredible. I'll never forget this my biggest takeaway.
Maybe besides like you do feel like you're kind of
on another planet for two weeks, like in a good way,
like just cloud nine. But I felt like the first
night I remember texting my brother in law about this,
but the first night I had a child, I felt
like it was the first time in my actual life
in which I knew what like real fear was like real, deep,
ancient fear. And that sounds weird, but it was because
all of a sudden, even though I didn't really know, Oh,
this little person, this new thing, this little human being
that showed up. Uh, you meet like it's just a
deeper love than you've ever experienced in your entire life,
which then leads a fear because you want everything to
be so good for this child, and and and and whatnot.
So it's it's a just a life changing feeling. So congratulations, man,
only a little bit longer, and then before you know it,
they're gonna be thirteen and doubling up on their cruise
meal plates.
Speaker 4: So get ready and taller and bigger than you. Yeah, true, exactly.
Being's stronger up with this old man strength, this Mike
Gundy strength on you.
Speaker 3: He probably can't get you yet, but once he gets
in college, you're probably cooked.
Speaker 4: You know. It's what keeps me motivated. Yeah, get under
the weights. Good luck, thank you, good luck. That's all
I gotta say. Uh, did you'll notice hearing the combine?
Speaker 3: I know we han't talked a lot of combine.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, come here that there's like third and fourth
rounders that don't like run anymore.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, I did not notice that I knew
like the big dogs, like the big dogs. So it's
for a few years now they've.
Speaker 3: Been saying, what sure, I get what sure?
Speaker 4: Probably third and fourth rounders that will like go do
one cone drill and some bag drills be like, nah, man,
I'm good, ain't gonna run, I'm gonna jump and on
bench press.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what, Like, do you not realize I got
my pro day? Okay?
Speaker 4: Do you not realize that all thirty two teams are
not going to be at your pro day unless you're
like projected?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Well it also feels like maybe like I mean, you
tell me if I'm wrong, Jake, But like when it
teams maybe knock you for not be willing to be
It's it's a bit it's a bit scared of competition.
Speaker 3: Maybe, Dad. And and again like every team is there?
Every team.
Speaker 4: There's only a couple of times a year that every
team goes to something the Senior Bowl and the Combine.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's it. Yeah, the only time you get
a chance.
Speaker 4: Sure, last year there was probably all thirty two teams
at lshu's pro d because of Jayden Daniels my league,
neighbors and Brian Thomas Junior. Maybe there was not. Everybody
has that situation, and so Cam Skataboo is a perfect example.
Didn't go to the Senior Bowl because he wanted to
work on his combine stuff. Oh no, and then he
didn't get did he did the vertical in the broad jump?
No forty no three cone, no twenty yard shuttle, no
bench press. You didn't go to the Senior Bowl to
work on combine training though, if I'm not mistaken, he
was the only player from Arizona State that got invited
to the Combine. Yes, you were not going to have
all thirty two teams that.
Speaker 3: You pro day. Not only that, it's been a rough
time for you and Cam. Yeah season, he of.
Speaker 8: All people would benefit huge if if he was able
to run like a four five eight four five nine,
that's huge for Camp.
Speaker 4: That's what people don't understand. And I don't think it's
Camp Scattabuy. I think it's agents. The NFL doesn't see
the difference that people think in a four or five
four and a four to six one. Yeah, they just don't. Yeah,
because like a boy, he told you, like, hey, relaxed. Yeah,
every team keeps their own clock too. Yeah, they have
their own guy and that's what they.
Speaker 3: Go off of.
Speaker 4: And look at the time, Like I almost ran at
my pro day because I was like, man, I think
I can get faster. Mate, It's like, hey, he probably can.
But he's like if you run a four or five
three instead of a four five nine, and it ain't
gonna matter. But you know it's gonna matter if you
run a four six seven, So there's not that big
of a difference. And I just I don't know, it's
weird to me, like, and I look like y'all obviously
camp scattaboy meathad player of the Year, but he was, like,
one example, the third fourth round guy right now, and
you're not running at the combine and there's multiple people
and some lshope players that aren't going to be first
round picks that didn't run at the combine. I'm like,
when did that become in vogue? When did that become
the norm, because that's your chance, Like every team is
there and you have a chance to go out there,
maybe a team that you weren't on their radar, but
you know what, they're like, hey do you see did
you see him today? Did you see what he did
on the field. You see the you know, the three
cone and then the bench press and the forty. Now
I'm gonna I'm gonna watch him in drills today and
then all of a sudden you're on their radar.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: It's just it's wild to me.
Speaker 4: And I went on NFL radio the other day and
they were they were having me on to talk about
like who's look great at the combine? And honestly, I say, guys,
excuse me, I'm about to be old men yelling.
Speaker 3: At the clouds real quick. But what are we doing?
Why are these guys not running at the combine anymore?
It's wild. I don't know, it's just wild to me. Scared.
Speaker 4: Well they get I think they're getting. I think they're
getting it like some advice. Yeah that is not going
to behoove them down the road.
Speaker 5: But the agent's advice still comes from a place of fear. Yeah,
it comes from a place if you can only do
damage to your stock instead of uh, instead of help.
Speaker 3: It, which I grew chick. I don't think that's I
don't think that's true.
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Speaker 1: Back to sports talk, maybe off the bench?
Speaker 3: What's hand?
Speaker 5: And y'all welcome back to OTB. Hope everybody's having a
truly woundebar day.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, my hat? What am I doing? So glad
to be back here with the homies. Yeah, Jake kind
of talking about during the break.
Speaker 5: I didn't realize so a lot of LSU guys not
doing any testing at the combine last week a little interesting.
Speaker 3: Their times are changing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean bench press alone, he only had two
players Miles Frasier and Saveon Jones that even benched twenty
yard shuttle. Braden Swinson the only one that did it.
Three cone, Braden Swinson the only one that did it. Uh,
you had four players do the broad jump vertical you
had the same four players, and then forty yard dash
you only had three players that were there from LSU
that ran the forty. I don't know, Like I said,
I don't really know when that changed, but I think
there's players that are going to be third, fourth, fifth
round picks from LSU and this obviously we're choosing Lshue
because that's who we're closest to that this, you know,
did the drills and that was it.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Uh, Chrystal says, did we cover Will Campbell being projected
as a guard instead of attack because of armlinked I
don't know what to trust in the Will Campbell reporting nowadays,
because sometimes it's OT one and then it's guard. The
next day he ran a grade forty worth, I mean
a four nine eight, broke that magical sub five barrier.
Speaker 8: Take Hey, it's Ill talked about this a little bit
last week. I hate when they're like, oh, well, his
arms are too short. It's like when you say the
the quarterback's hand sizers are too small. Like I broke
it down last week. The two quarterbacks that have the
two biggest hands in the NFL are Will Levis and
Anthony Richardson. Yeah, like the top three guys were like
Baker and two other guys that had like Pro Bowl seasons,
Like that's never mattered.
Speaker 3: Why does this matter?
Speaker 5: He's also I will say, though, I will be interested
is someone who's a tiny and truth or and I
agree with You're absolutely right.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just no correlation.
Speaker 8: You're gonna pass up on a good player just because
his arms are half an inch shorter than you would
like them.
Speaker 5: Well, and that's what I was gonna I wonder like,
how how short are they compared to what the ideal is,
because I mean long.
Speaker 8: I will say this, thirty three and a fourth is
what he was. And I think they said the minimum
is thirty four, so he's us in an inch.
Speaker 4: I see it as thirty two and five eighths either way,
combine website.
Speaker 3: His hands only nine and a half.
Speaker 5: I will say that, Okay, don't say only I will
say that it's just for you. Armlingk does matter more
than the hand size in my opinion, if someone will
short arms who sometimes felt like I was grasping that air,
yeah swam me, Yeah it can it can be. It
can be a little rough at times. I felt that
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