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<v Speaker 1>Oh, bed of fir No, bed of that, And welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the show. This is the Cult of Conspiracy. And

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<v Speaker 1>my name's Jonathan. I'm Jacob. Jacob. Are we talking about

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<v Speaker 1>she Man he Man? You know, Big Mike situation over

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<v Speaker 1>in France.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of controversy going on with old Brigitte slash John

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<v Speaker 2>Jean Cantrell trog No, where the fuck there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of controversy around this person.

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<v Speaker 1>His name is Jamal. Let's just be real. That is

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<v Speaker 1>a pasty ash Jamal brother. But who knows? Who knows?

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<v Speaker 2>And again we've talked about it at a time or two,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole even the official narrative of what took place.

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<v Speaker 2>She was thirty nine, allegedly married with kids when she

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<v Speaker 2>met a fourteen year old Manuel and they started their relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>or as a old Jada Smith would say.

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<v Speaker 1>Their entanglement.

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<v Speaker 2>Either even that alone is pedophilic in nature and ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>But it reminds me of like the Fifty Shades of

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<v Speaker 1>Gray Dude, how he was kind of in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>like his his dominator or whatever was getting to him

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<v Speaker 1>at a young age.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yeah, it's it's very disgusting and fifty Shades is

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<v Speaker 2>just a horrible sagas. It's actually pretty fucking horribly written

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<v Speaker 2>and disgusting. The only reason why that got famous is

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<v Speaker 2>because he was a rich billionaire. If he lived in

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<v Speaker 2>a single wide, it would have been a true crimes case.

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<v Speaker 1>But whatever. Oh yeah, dude, people are blinded by the

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<v Speaker 1>chet of cheese. That's all.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all.

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<v Speaker 2>And also most of the people on book talk that

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<v Speaker 2>are into that kind of shit, you know, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>take a your side, tangent. I feel like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of these women that are like super into the crazy

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<v Speaker 2>book talk fantasy, super smut, literature, literotica, whatever the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>you want to call it, super don't understand how.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not as attractive as they think, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, he he pinned me to the wall and picked

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<v Speaker 2>me up by my neck and told me that I

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<v Speaker 2>was his yo.

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<v Speaker 1>On some real shit.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a man that pinned you to a wall,

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<v Speaker 2>is squeezing on your windpipe and picks you up and

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<v Speaker 2>then tells you some shit like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not like comfortable. I've heard I'm gonna get turned

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<v Speaker 1>on by that. I've heard of restraining orders that required

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<v Speaker 1>a lot less.

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<v Speaker 2>A whole lot less, dude, I've heard restraining wars get

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<v Speaker 2>used for words. It not even physical action, but some

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<v Speaker 2>random guy doing this like, oh my god, that's so hot.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you know what. This is actually what we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the other day about like why people love

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<v Speaker 1>horror films. It's like, namely women who love horror films

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<v Speaker 1>and horror stories and all of the different horror podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>and true crime and all that kind of stuff. It's scary,

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<v Speaker 1>yet it's fringy because they're behind the comfort of a

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<v Speaker 1>book or they're behind the comfort of a phone. These

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<v Speaker 1>are like the shit posters if you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the worst of these people are the shit posters

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<v Speaker 1>on social media, the ones that will, you know, talk

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of shit about me or about you, or

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<v Speaker 1>about anybody else, and nobody like. And that's the problem

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<v Speaker 1>with social media is you can talk a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>shit and you never got to worry about getting hit

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<v Speaker 1>in the face, you know what I mean, Like nobody's

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<v Speaker 1>ever gonna find you. Most people got burner accounts. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same thing is like they get a rush

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<v Speaker 1>even though there's no face to what their words are saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and the same thing goes. It's like you get on

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<v Speaker 1>a roller coaster. You know you're safe. It's just a

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<v Speaker 1>thrill of oh my god, you know, like this is

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<v Speaker 1>going really fast. It's a couple loop do loops. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think that most people in their mind, they

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<v Speaker 1>like the idea of the fear as a fun But

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<v Speaker 1>in that moment, I'm not saying that, you know, BDSM

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<v Speaker 1>isn't for everybody there. I mean, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people that are into that shit, right, sure, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think for the most part most people just fantasize, and

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<v Speaker 1>that to see this is where it gets into that

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<v Speaker 1>slippery slope.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, fantasy is.

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<v Speaker 2>Fine, okay, as long as it's of consenting adults, even

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<v Speaker 2>in your fantasy.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, let's keep it legit here.

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<v Speaker 2>But that being said, it's the same there are Now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that all women that read literotica are

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<v Speaker 2>doing this the same way that I don't believe all

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<v Speaker 2>guys that.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch porn are doing this. But bear with me here.

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<v Speaker 2>There are women who are starting to look at their

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<v Speaker 2>partners and at their spouses in a different light because

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<v Speaker 2>they are not the same type of character arc as

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<v Speaker 2>these figures in this literal right, well, you've never choked

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<v Speaker 2>me against the wall and done this, this, this and this,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they try it and it's like, well, shit,

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<v Speaker 2>now that that wasn't fun. Now that was borderline abusive.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I saw the look in your eye

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<v Speaker 2>like you have some weird shit with you, and it's like, bitch,

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<v Speaker 2>you're the one that asked me to do this?

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<v Speaker 3>What the fuck? Cut to same thing other side of

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<v Speaker 3>the coin.

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<v Speaker 2>You got these guys that are addicted to porn, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they're all like, well, why don't you ever

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<v Speaker 2>do this and this? Like these porn stars do all

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<v Speaker 2>this shit. Then she tries it one day. Then you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at her kind of weird, like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought you were a different person. I saw this weird thing, like,

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<v Speaker 2>are you actually like borderline a slut?

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<v Speaker 1>Like are you looking to cheat on me because of this?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a it's a fucking slippery slope and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a one hundred percent rule by any means.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were innocent. Why are you eating my ass?

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of situation?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you know, And again I'm not judging anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>All I'm saying is that there is a wave, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a movement, there is a spiritual shift if you will

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<v Speaker 2>that is going on in the culture. Males, it might

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<v Speaker 2>be more of the pornography realm. Women, it's more of

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<v Speaker 2>the literotica realm and I feel like both of which

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<v Speaker 2>not a rule. It doesn't have to lead to unrealistic

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<v Speaker 2>expectations for your partners, but a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 2>letting it actually affect their relationships because now they're putting

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<v Speaker 2>these unrealistic fantasy expectations on their actual, real life partners,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it can be dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that, you know, with that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you're a couple, and don't look to me

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<v Speaker 1>for advice because I suck at being a couple and

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<v Speaker 1>I suck at all the relationship shit. But just outside

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<v Speaker 1>looking in kind of playing you know, Monday morning quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to grow together in just about every way,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like if you're it's starting to get into

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<v Speaker 1>something that goes beyond the bounds of what you guys have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like put yourself in front of or tried together.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's whenever the split almost starts to happen, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like now you're forming different timelines and now doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Strange is trying to show you, look, this is right

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<v Speaker 1>where the timeline split and that person stayed on this

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<v Speaker 1>path and you veered off here, and like usually it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty simple to see where it started.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, honestly, I could fuck my first divorce. That was,

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<v Speaker 2>That was all of what that was. Honestly, we just

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<v Speaker 2>grew apart. We got married at nineteen. We had no

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<v Speaker 2>business getting married that young. We didn't even know who

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<v Speaker 2>we were as individuals, let alone who we were supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be as a couple, and it just it devolved

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<v Speaker 2>very quickly, and you could pinpoint it back to a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of key spots where some shit went sideways that

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have And no, no, I don't mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>infidelity or abuse or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't that.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like little stuff that got blown molehills literally

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<v Speaker 2>got turned into mountains that shouldn't have even been seen

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<v Speaker 2>as a mole hill. It should have been seen as

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<v Speaker 2>like a little footnote. And we just move on with

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<v Speaker 2>our lives. And that was from both sides, like one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent. We were children, you know, and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just and that's why it's so important to know thyself,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because if you if you already are aware

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<v Speaker 1>of who you are, and what may peque your interest

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<v Speaker 1>and what are what already are your interests. Then you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to catch yourself in that moment

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<v Speaker 1>that that split may be happening, and then you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>able to say, Okay, this is probably something that I

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<v Speaker 1>should include my significant other rent otherwise, I know me,

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<v Speaker 1>I know my mind. I know what it's gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>with this kind of information. It could cause us to

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<v Speaker 1>put a little space in between each other. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny that we're talking about all this BDSM shit

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<v Speaker 1>whenever we're talking about Brigitte Macrone.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I was gonna say, talking about knowing thyself,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about somebody that I still don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>this human being knows who the fuck they even are

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<v Speaker 2>or to what gender they were assigned at birth.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of controversy surrounding this, and more and

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<v Speaker 2>more of it is coming through to fruition.

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<v Speaker 1>They are suing Candice Ellens. Now everybody has heard.

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<v Speaker 2>Me speak on old seed O for the past couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks and months. I at one time was a

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<v Speaker 2>massive fan of her, and I still in some regard

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<v Speaker 2>am a fan of hers, but I also feel like

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<v Speaker 2>she is going through a grieving process and she is

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<v Speaker 2>slowly losing her grip on reality.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that I disagree him, by the way, just so

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<v Speaker 1>that I just want everybody to know, that's not a

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<v Speaker 1>cult of conspiracy view. That is a Jacob view.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, that's one hundred percent of job view. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying that that ties in with Brigitte Macrone. That

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<v Speaker 2>solely ties into the Charlie Kirk thing, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>whole other conversation that we're not getting into on this episode. Okay, However,

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<v Speaker 2>speaking on the Brigitte Macrone situation and all of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that she has brought up has led her to

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<v Speaker 2>being sued in Delaware by the Macrones, And at one

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<v Speaker 2>point in time, she was saying that, well, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>suing me for this claim, even though if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the paperwork, that's exactly what they're suing her for,

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<v Speaker 2>and it looked like they were gearing up for a

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<v Speaker 2>real fight. They have hired the best defamation lawyer money

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<v Speaker 2>come buy in the United States. We're gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 2>him in specific and some of the other cases from

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<v Speaker 2>the past that you probably have heard of, but you

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<v Speaker 2>may not have known.

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<v Speaker 1>That his name was attached to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's a new report saying that Brigi its tax

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<v Speaker 2>records are showing that she has been listed as a

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<v Speaker 2>man for years, and that if that's not true, if

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<v Speaker 2>that's false, because there's some people that are saying that

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<v Speaker 2>was hackers that change this and it's not true, But

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<v Speaker 2>then why is there no one being brought to justice?

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<v Speaker 2>Then you find out that there are in fact ten

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<v Speaker 2>people that are being that got arrested for this, for

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<v Speaker 2>hacking her account. It's wild things. There's controversy on top

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<v Speaker 3>So and it's just not straight.

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<v Speaker 1>And with all of this defamation lawsuit kind of going

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<v Speaker 2>And if somebody did kill me, Gonna be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably China stung it out. Any France or anybody

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<v Speaker 2>France has no beef with me, But I know probably

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<v Speaker 1>Or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Just me with all of where I've been for the

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I'm saying. Well, I'm saying after this episode

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<v Speaker 2>Oh maybe I don't know. I got homies in France.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe you're right. Maybe they're gonna fucking come over

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's gonna be to homies, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be the man ladies people. Oh God, the trainees

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Jesus Nah, that's a sentence I never thought i'd

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Wow. Twenty twenty five was a weird year. Good

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, I'm gonna go ahead and share the screen

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<v Speaker 2>at this time and we are gonna dive straight into

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<v Speaker 2>all the things.

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<v Speaker 3>The first article goes back to September.

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<v Speaker 2>and if you would like to see what is happening

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<v Speaker 1>We mentioned it every episode. And so for anybody out

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<v Speaker 1>record and just got done with that bad boy last night,

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<v Speaker 1>and as usual, it was a little unhinged. But I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's the conspiracy crowd in general. We're all a

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<v Speaker 1>little unhinged. We're not normal. It's time to just accept

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<v Speaker 1>that you step into and you become. It's not something

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<v Speaker 1>that you hide in a closet like Brigitte and say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not this and I'm actually that. No, it's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>like that. You let your freak flag fly dude all

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<v Speaker 1>day long. You it's a beautiful thing to take a

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<v Speaker 1>take with you. But that being said, if you want,

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<v Speaker 1>just to test your test the water. Dip your toe

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<v Speaker 1>in there, see if it's warm. It is, I promise you,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in here for like five and a half years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty warm. I didn't even pay in it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>that is is that you actually get three months off.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of the promo that's going on right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to sign up for the whole year,

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<v Speaker 1>you get three months off, you only pay for nine months.

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<v Speaker 1>What a deal. I mean, we're basically we're providing more

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<v Speaker 1>value than the dollar seventy five tree right now. Okay, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So all that being said, talking about letting

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<v Speaker 2>your freak flag fly, you know, it's crazy. Honestly, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that if Brigitte would have came out about this

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<v Speaker 2>way earlier, it would have just been fine. Like, France

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<v Speaker 2>is very open, they are very liberal as a culture

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<v Speaker 2>and as a society. That probably would have helped Manual

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<v Speaker 2>get elected sooner. Honestly, to say that you would have

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, the French people would have jumped all

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Certain sections of France are very traditional and very old fashioned,

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me you have, tell me you have the picture

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<v Speaker 1>of Brigitte as a man. I don't. I I haven't. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>yes I do. And once you see it, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>unseeing it. Like I'm looking at her face right now

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, okay, because at first I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I might be a man, but you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle Obama was more obvious to me. Maybe because of

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle or Mike's stature. I mean could literally donk go

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<v Speaker 1>on everybody. This Brigitte is not like a large individual,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And yeah, but I mean, hey, whatever, she's

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<v Speaker 2>Seen a picture of her when she was from what

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<v Speaker 2>I could tell, it's like when she was a kid

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<v Speaker 2>in school, and it's like a black and white photo

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<v Speaker 2>where she's almost dressed like a nun or something. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess she went to like a traditional Catholic school. Bro,

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<v Speaker 2>this could have been any girl. It doesn't look like

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<v Speaker 2>Brigitte now Granted, I understand we were talking about something

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<v Speaker 2>fucking fifty years after the fact, and people's faces change

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<v Speaker 2>with time.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that.

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<v Speaker 2>But this there's no like defining feature where it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, no, that's totally her as a kid. I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot see it with the young young picture that I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh dude, yeah, it's uh, it's quite disturbing. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to look for it. Oh, hold on, hold the phone, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I have it. Hold on, let me make

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<v Speaker 1>sure I got the post right. Okay, okay, So this

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<v Speaker 1>is so strange, and there's been other pictures too, but

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<v Speaker 1>quickly find. Shout out to poly Market for putting this

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<v Speaker 1>one up there. But it, says French journalist Natasha Ray,

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<v Speaker 1>who claimed that Macrone's wife was born a male, was

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<v Speaker 1>acquitted by a Paris account or a Paris court. According

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<v Speaker 1>to their lawyer, Ray intends to sue Brigitte Macrone for fraud.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you can see it right here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to imagine, I mean, Brigitte is an

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<v Speaker 1>of these older pictures. But there are a few details

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<v Speaker 1>that you can really hone in to be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>out this this little dimple raid here underneath the lip.

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<v Speaker 1>The same little bump underneath the lip right here underneath

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom lip. You still see it Ray here right.

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<v Speaker 2>And same nose, same brow lines, same five head, I mean, forehead,

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<v Speaker 2>same eyes, same eyes. Now, yeah, the neck is a

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<v Speaker 2>little thinner and all these things, but I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>happens with hormone treatments when it comes with old age too,

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<v Speaker 2>it does. Indeed, muscular degeneration is a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can see this head under this wig, right,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's a wig.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And then if you look at the Natasha Ray,

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<v Speaker 2>who was the first or one of the first, acclaimed

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<v Speaker 2>fact acquitted by a Paris court. And their quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>reason for this was because it was like a false

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<v Speaker 2>where they never had to go and say, ah, you

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<v Speaker 2>lied about the first lady, you're a bad person. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>the judge fumbled the ball and was like or the magistrate,

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, oopsie, daisy, it's a mistrial. Everybody go home,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to see here, and it was just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>pushed under the rug. So they never actually had to

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<v Speaker 2>claim one way or another if she was telling truths

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well it says. France's first Lady. Brigitte Macrone is

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<v Speaker 1>once again at the center of controversy after report service

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<v Speaker 1>that her name appeared as Jean Michel in official tax records,

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<v Speaker 1>reviving an old rumor that has circulated online for years.

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<v Speaker 1>The claim quickly spread across social media, fueling renewed debate

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<v Speaker 1>over its origin and credibility. Authorities have described the incident

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<v Speaker 1>as a possible case of data manipulation, of course, or hacking,

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<v Speaker 1>though details were made unclear. Meanwhile, Brigitte Macrone has taken

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<v Speaker 1>legal action against several individuals involving the spreading of the story,

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<v Speaker 1>turning what began as an internet rumor into an ongoing

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<v Speaker 1>court room battle. This is why it's important to have

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<v Speaker 1>these kind of conversations, you know, because if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>for this shit spreading like fucking wildfire all over social

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<v Speaker 1>media would it be coming to this point.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, okay, looking at the video on screen for

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<v Speaker 2>anybody who hasn't seen the uh the Brigitte smushing in

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<v Speaker 2>the face of Manuel macrone bro look at the size

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<v Speaker 2>of the fucking paws on that chick. So look, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's like cuked under his chin. And the fingers are

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<v Speaker 2>long enough to where they're damn near going up his

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<v Speaker 2>nose and touching his eyeball like that. That is, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's after he turned. When you look at initially, they're

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<v Speaker 2>like halfway up his nose. Those are some fucking man hands, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I do want to throw it out

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<v Speaker 1>there that they're obviously and and even from my point

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<v Speaker 1>of view, there there is dark magic, and there's dark

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<v Speaker 1>dark occult and there's stuff that I'll never touch. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I might learn about it, but obviously I'm never gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it, right, I just peque an interest in how

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<v Speaker 1>it's being done. If you notice, there's a lot and

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<v Speaker 1>and and I'm not sure to say that this is

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<v Speaker 1>the case for all transgenders, but for all transgenders of

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of higher peak out there, the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>are ruling the world or the ones that are rolling

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<v Speaker 1>these these large companies or these large countries or anything

424
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<v Speaker 1>like that. You'll see that they they are literally trying

425
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<v Speaker 1>to embody the bapha Met, right, Like, I think that

426
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<v Speaker 1>that's actually what's going on. And now I've looked in

427
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<v Speaker 1>pretty heavily into the Bapha Met and the idea, the

428
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<v Speaker 1>esoteric understanding about the Bapha Met is just that you're

429
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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be, you know, uh, like fifty percent male

430
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<v Speaker 1>fifty percent female in spirit, Like it's you're supposed to

431
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<v Speaker 1>like because whenever you're a spirit, you're not necessarily a

432
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<v Speaker 1>fucking sex You don't. You're not carrying around a Wiener

433
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<v Speaker 1>or a box or anything like that. It is literally,

434
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<v Speaker 1>you're just a fucking ind of it. Like look at

435
00:20:46.759 --> 00:20:49.680
<v Speaker 1>yourself as a ghost basically, right, And if you're that,

436
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<v Speaker 1>you're not supposed to be taking it literally. And I

437
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<v Speaker 1>think that some people, through their cult rituals, are trying

438
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<v Speaker 1>to embody it so much that they do take it literally.

439
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<v Speaker 1>And this these are the people that are like the

440
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<v Speaker 1>the psychos, right. These are your Aleister Crowley's, these are

441
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<v Speaker 1>your Brigitte Macrons, these are your Michelle Obamas. The ones

442
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<v Speaker 1>that will do anything at all if they if they

443
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<v Speaker 1>think that it's going to help them get to a

444
00:21:10.519 --> 00:21:13.759
<v Speaker 1>certain rank of power, they're Look, are you saying that

445
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<v Speaker 1>I just got to slap some tits on my chest

446
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<v Speaker 1>and call me my Michelle instead of mic All right, hey,

447
00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll do it right. Some people are just willing to

448
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<v Speaker 1>sell literally more than their soul but their body, right,

449
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<v Speaker 1>And I think that that's really what's going on here.

450
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<v Speaker 1>You think of the Baphomet, it as the two fingers

451
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<v Speaker 1>up the two fingers down. It has like the the

452
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<v Speaker 1>body of a man, but it has the tits it

453
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<v Speaker 1>and it's supposed to just show like that that you're

454
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<v Speaker 1>you're both male and female or you're neither, like you've

455
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<v Speaker 1>transcended the idea of male or female. And that's really

456
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<v Speaker 1>the occult, the occult idea behind that whole thing. But

457
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<v Speaker 1>like I was saying, I think that that's what Brigitte

458
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<v Speaker 1>is doing here like this. That's the problem whenever people

459
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<v Speaker 1>take shit literally like that, then it starts getting weird.

460
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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean even still, I don't know Manuel's background

461
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<v Speaker 2>as far as like, cause again, they met when he

462
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<v Speaker 2>was fourteen, allegedly according to the narrative. Now a lot

463
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<v Speaker 2>of people would say this is actually his uncle, slash brother,

464
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<v Speaker 2>slash something along these lines. I don't think that's his brother. Okay,

465
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<v Speaker 2>the ages do not line up to where this could

466
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<v Speaker 2>be his brother. Now, if you were to say this

467
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<v Speaker 2>is his estranged uncle whose last name was trogno oh, Jean.

468
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<v Speaker 3>Michelle or whatever the fuck?

469
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, possibly, but even still, if this arrangement, if their

470
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<v Speaker 2>relationship of a physical nature and all this started when

471
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<v Speaker 2>he was fourteen, I don't know this for a fact,

472
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<v Speaker 2>but it'd be a very hard ask to have somebody

473
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<v Speaker 2>be like that guy, that guy is gonna be a

474
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<v Speaker 2>world leader in about thirty years, and then this person

475
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<v Speaker 2>who's embodying the bat fro met physically or whatever the case.

476
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<v Speaker 2>It'd be like, all right, time to make my move.

477
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<v Speaker 1>Now. I'm not saying that that's never been happened.

478
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<v Speaker 2>We do know that people are select and not elected,

479
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<v Speaker 2>and I'm taking that all with a grain of salt.

480
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<v Speaker 3>But even if you were to say that maybe they

481
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<v Speaker 3>like started this.

482
00:23:01.319 --> 00:23:03.200
<v Speaker 2>When he was in college and it was obvious that

483
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<v Speaker 2>he was rubbing elbows with the right people and getting

484
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<v Speaker 2>in with the right clicks and all the Okay, maybe fourteen,

485
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<v Speaker 2>that is a crazy shot call if you will.

486
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm not saying it's impossible.

487
00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:18.759
<v Speaker 2>I find it a little more of the improbability, that's all.

488
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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, Elon must nanny knew knew it from

489
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<v Speaker 1>whenever Elon was a wee little one.

490
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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, And I'm still not convinced that he's actually

491
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<v Speaker 2>gonna be the one to usher in the Antichrist. I

492
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<v Speaker 2>get the talking point, And I'm not saying that it's impossible.

493
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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't know that. And also, you got

494
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<v Speaker 1>to think about it like this, dude, this is not

495
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<v Speaker 1>just a guessing that this is going to be an

496
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<v Speaker 1>Antichrist situation. This is and a lot I'm not the

497
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<v Speaker 1>first person to say this, this is a bloodline situation.

498
00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Like these people are propped up because they carry the

499
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<v Speaker 1>lineage of the past rulers and they carry the the

500
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<v Speaker 1>like they literally believe that their blood is so divine

501
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<v Speaker 1>that no matter what this person and is going to

502
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<v Speaker 1>turn out to be a king, a president, a queen

503
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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, right like it is a it is a

504
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<v Speaker 1>fucking bloodline. And so and that's my problem with a

505
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<v Speaker 1>lot of this is that they take esoteric knowledge and

506
00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:17.960
<v Speaker 1>they try and physicalize it. And that's literally the opposite

507
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<v Speaker 1>of esotericism, like the esoteric knowledge, whether it's the fucking Kabbalah,

508
00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:26.839
<v Speaker 1>whether it's you know, whatever kind of mysticism you look into. Esoterically,

509
00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:31.559
<v Speaker 1>the idea is is that it is meant for inner understanding.

510
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<v Speaker 1>It's not outer right like, and so people are taking

511
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<v Speaker 1>esoteric knowledge and applying it to the exoteric. There's a

512
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<v Speaker 1>there's a literal reason, like the idea of exotericism is

513
00:24:43.079 --> 00:24:46.759
<v Speaker 1>outer world, outer shit. And so whenever they're dressing up

514
00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:49.640
<v Speaker 1>like fucking cross dressers and they're throwing tits on their

515
00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:53.079
<v Speaker 1>chest like pretending to be what they're not. You know,

516
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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about everybody. I'm talking about these fucks, Okay,

517
00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:02.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's a bastardization of the yesoteric information. I

518
00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:04.240
<v Speaker 1>get you, but I just looked into it. Macrone.

519
00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I thought, maybe he does come from like royal lineage,

520
00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:08.799
<v Speaker 2>maybe he's got some blue blood in him or something

521
00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:11.839
<v Speaker 2>like that. None, the Macrone name is not a name

522
00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:14.640
<v Speaker 2>of nobility in France. Both of his parents were doctors.

523
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<v Speaker 2>He comes from upper middle class. It's not like his

524
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<v Speaker 2>great great great great grandfather with some sort of a

525
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<v Speaker 2>high ranking French noblemen or anything like that.

526
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<v Speaker 3>At least not that I could find.

527
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<v Speaker 2>So as far as the bloodlines go in these types

528
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<v Speaker 2>of things, in certain cases, I absolutely see what you're

529
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<v Speaker 2>talking about. I don't because the France still does have

530
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<v Speaker 2>a monarch. Well it's not as well known as like

531
00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:37.319
<v Speaker 2>the British monarch, that's for sure, but like they'd be

532
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<v Speaker 2>like saying, the British Prime Minister is a part of

533
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<v Speaker 2>the blue blood bloodlines like the British royal family, and

534
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<v Speaker 2>the two are very different.

535
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<v Speaker 1>No, I agree. But also as we're seeing with these

536
00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:53.759
<v Speaker 1>tax reports now with fucking Jean Michel aka Brigitte, that

537
00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:57.680
<v Speaker 1>names change all the time. The Rothschilds weren't always the

538
00:25:57.759 --> 00:26:01.880
<v Speaker 1>roth Child's right, Like even Jade Vance that's nowhere near

539
00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:05.400
<v Speaker 1>his real name, nowhere near like his real name, and

540
00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:07.640
<v Speaker 1>he's changed it, I think five or six times over

541
00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:09.720
<v Speaker 1>the course of his life, which is really strange. But

542
00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:13.319
<v Speaker 1>his real name, his born name, his fucking birth certificate name.

543
00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:18.559
<v Speaker 1>Talking about JD. Vance is James Donald Bowman. Now tell me,

544
00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:21.079
<v Speaker 1>if you're trying to look up lineage and you're trying

545
00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:24.640
<v Speaker 1>to find, well, what's Vance's lineage, you're not gonna find it,

546
00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:27.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like it is so far removed,

547
00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:30.440
<v Speaker 1>and that's why names don't even matter, Like it is

548
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:34.279
<v Speaker 1>your fucking DNA code structure that is more important to

549
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:34.799
<v Speaker 1>these people.

550
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I could see where you're going with that,

551
00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:39.559
<v Speaker 2>for sure. I don't know if mccrone's family changed their

552
00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:40.519
<v Speaker 2>name at some point.

553
00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:41.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, JD.

554
00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:45.279
<v Speaker 2>He had a lot of issues with his family and

555
00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:48.759
<v Speaker 2>their upbringing, the abusive nature of his like that's why

556
00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:51.000
<v Speaker 2>his grandmother had to raise him, and shit, he didn't

557
00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:53.279
<v Speaker 2>want to be associated with his dad's name and things like.

558
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<v Speaker 1>That's what he says. I don't buy any of this shit, bro.

559
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<v Speaker 3>I know the people that have done that in real life.

560
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.680
<v Speaker 2>You know what, I know personally multiple people that have

561
00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:05.559
<v Speaker 2>changed their last names as soon as they got to

562
00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:07.880
<v Speaker 2>adulthood because they didn't want to be associated with who

563
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:09.680
<v Speaker 2>their family was because of how bad they were.

564
00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:12.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, I can you know I have reasons

565
00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:14.440
<v Speaker 1>for shitting my pants. It doesn't mean that whenever I

566
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:16.720
<v Speaker 1>shit my pants that it's the same exact reason everybody

567
00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:17.799
<v Speaker 1>else shits their pants.

568
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:21.960
<v Speaker 2>No, No, but I mean, especially his story, I get it,

569
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:24.519
<v Speaker 2>even if like a portion of that is true.

570
00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:26.359
<v Speaker 3>I understand why he would want to change.

571
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:27.680
<v Speaker 1>His name, But five times.

572
00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:30.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about the five times I knew he

573
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:32.440
<v Speaker 2>had changed it once, I hadn't heard about the multiple times.

574
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:34.319
<v Speaker 1>It has been. I don't know if it's exactly five,

575
00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:37.240
<v Speaker 1>it's some crazy number, Like it's not two, it's not

576
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:39.440
<v Speaker 1>even three, it's more than that. So that's an a

577
00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:42.400
<v Speaker 1>hard look. You want to change it more than more,

578
00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:44.839
<v Speaker 1>like you want to change it one time. I get it, dude,

579
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I totally get it. Like I love the idea of

580
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:51.200
<v Speaker 1>taking my birth certificate real name, like my original last

581
00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:54.079
<v Speaker 1>name is Temple. It sounds fucking awesome, you know what

582
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean. But yeah, obviously I'm not going to do

583
00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:00.680
<v Speaker 1>that because my stepdad slash real dad never did me wrong,

584
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:02.440
<v Speaker 1>never did me dirty. I have no reason to change

585
00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:04.200
<v Speaker 1>it right like, and it would be a slap in

586
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:05.799
<v Speaker 1>the face to him. So I'm not gonna do that.

587
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:09.839
<v Speaker 1>But this whole Jdvan situation, motherfucker changed his name several times,

588
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:11.880
<v Speaker 1>and so I don't trust any of them. And then

589
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:14.680
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, by the grace of God, Peter

590
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Tild just so happens to find you and vaults you

591
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:20.839
<v Speaker 1>up to the fucking top of the pyramid essentially.

592
00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:24.440
<v Speaker 2>So he's changed it twice. Actually it was James Donald Bowman.

593
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:28.799
<v Speaker 2>Then in nineteen ninety it became James David Homel hammil

594
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:33.279
<v Speaker 2>That was after his mom remarried and the new husband,

595
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:36.279
<v Speaker 2>Bob Hamill, adopted him and he changed his last name.

596
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Then he became James David Vance.

597
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:42.319
<v Speaker 2>In twenty thirteen, he legally changed his surname to his

598
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:47.160
<v Speaker 2>maternal grandmother's maiden name. So whatever its in an adoption

599
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:50.920
<v Speaker 2>in once as an adult, that's too many dances and

600
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:53.759
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, and then like I'm sorry,

601
00:28:54.039 --> 00:28:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Eventually you gotta find one and stick to it. Otherwise

602
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:01.480
<v Speaker 2>you're no better than some asking somebody to use different

603
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:02.599
<v Speaker 2>pronouns at that point.

604
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Shit, dude, I had a girl in high school.

605
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:07.240
<v Speaker 2>She changed her name that legally changed her name twice

606
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:07.920
<v Speaker 2>in one year.

607
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>That's called a psycho, right, wouldn't you say? That's pretty psychotic.

608
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Again, it's very case by case, but in her specific case,

609
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:18.680
<v Speaker 2>I get it. She went from like Gibson to Carter

610
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.839
<v Speaker 2>to what was the last one, my Hudson was it?

611
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:23.680
<v Speaker 3>I forget, But we're.

612
00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Not trying to knock anybody here. But like the idea is,

613
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's just strange. And I only brought

614
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>that up because I actually think that there's probably some

615
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:35.799
<v Speaker 1>Gamatria magic or some I'm not even saying that it's

616
00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:39.720
<v Speaker 1>fucking Jewish or whatever. I'm just saying numerologically, maybe there's

617
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:42.799
<v Speaker 1>something like that going on with JD. Vans. Like if

618
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:46.759
<v Speaker 1>you think about like in magic and stuff like that, like, man,

619
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:52.200
<v Speaker 1>they have their reasons for changing certain things, and like

620
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:53.799
<v Speaker 1>this guy was a fucking what was he like a

621
00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:57.359
<v Speaker 1>computer programmer or some bullshit, And and then Peter Teal

622
00:29:57.400 --> 00:29:58.839
<v Speaker 1>finds him and he's like, Hey, I want to prop

623
00:29:58.839 --> 00:29:59.839
<v Speaker 1>you up to this. I want to prop you up

624
00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:00.960
<v Speaker 1>to this. I own to prop you up to this.

625
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>And now Peter Teal's talking about the Antichrist after he

626
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:05.359
<v Speaker 1>literally created JD. Vance.

627
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:08.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Peter tele is just a weird case in himself,

628
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<v Speaker 2>separate from JD Vance, just Peter Teal in and of himself, weird, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>Weird that he's gotten to the position that he is

630
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<v Speaker 2>with the tech world, in the money world, and now

631
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<v Speaker 2>him giving a series on the Antichrist. That's all very

632
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<v Speaker 2>very strange in and of itself. And very off putting.

633
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<v Speaker 2>Then you couple that with his association with the presidency

634
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<v Speaker 2>and with JD and it's like, man, that's you can't

635
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<v Speaker 2>wait too many eyebrow razors to ignore on.

636
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<v Speaker 1>That you're talking about literally, like the person that taught

637
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.720
<v Speaker 1>JD Vance everything that he knows is the guy that

638
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:46.279
<v Speaker 1>speaks on the Antichrist, Like I don't. It just blows

639
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:48.039
<v Speaker 1>my mind. And then you see, have you seen the

640
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:50.680
<v Speaker 1>whole Trump thing where he's talking about like he used

641
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<v Speaker 1>to be if you remember whenever he was running, and

642
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<v Speaker 1>even whenever he was you know, his first term, he

643
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>was talking about like, oh, you know, I'm people were

644
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<v Speaker 1>thinking that he was convert and that he was becoming

645
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<v Speaker 1>a Christian and he was becoming you know, like he

646
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:05.880
<v Speaker 1>felt like he was saved by the grace of God

647
00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:08.480
<v Speaker 1>whenever that bullet nearly missed him and only nicked his

648
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>ear and all these kind of things, right, And now

649
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:14.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, somebody asked him like Donald, I mean, do

650
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:16.079
<v Speaker 1>you think you're going to heaven? And He's like, no,

651
00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'm going to heaven. I mean there's

652
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of other people that are going to heaven.

653
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna I probably am not going to heaven.

654
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:24.240
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, wait a second, you're kind of changing

655
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>your fucking tone here now, Bud. And that's what I'm saying, Like,

656
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:32.799
<v Speaker 1>whether these people are replaced, maybe they're cloned, maybe there

657
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:37.559
<v Speaker 1>is a spirit that is fucking demonically attaching themselves to

658
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>their bodies or whatever. Dude, I don't trust none of them. Yeah,

659
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I actually was watching the thing yesterday.

660
00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:45.519
<v Speaker 3>Do you know what denomination?

661
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<v Speaker 2>For the record, almost every single president of America has

662
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:52.960
<v Speaker 2>been listed as Christian, right, And there had been a

663
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.480
<v Speaker 2>few cases of some that were more like a religious

664
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:57.880
<v Speaker 2>but like gon to their head, they would have claimed

665
00:31:58.000 --> 00:31:59.680
<v Speaker 2>a certain group. But like the ones that were like

666
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:03.400
<v Speaker 2>actually practicers of the faith. Do you know what denomination?

667
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:04.440
<v Speaker 2>Most of them have.

668
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Been Catholic, right, No, not Catholic. That was kind of

669
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:08.359
<v Speaker 1>an outlier.

670
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:11.160
<v Speaker 2>There's only two that have been Catholic, as JFK and

671
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:12.160
<v Speaker 2>uh Biden.

672
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:17.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. Episcopal. I don't even know what

673
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:20.519
<v Speaker 1>the difference is, to be honest, also called Anglican, where

674
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:24.000
<v Speaker 1>they see the King of England as the pope. Oh

675
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. Weird, hitn't that? Yeah? So weird? But anyway,

676
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>that's the whole point of all of this is what

677
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to say, is is that what appears on

678
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:34.440
<v Speaker 1>the surface is what they want you to see. You

679
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:37.400
<v Speaker 1>have to dig a little bit deeper. Right, So whenever

680
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:40.079
<v Speaker 1>you're just over there assuming well jd vance, he cleans

681
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:42.759
<v Speaker 1>up real nice. He speaks like a like a very

682
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:48.839
<v Speaker 1>upright gentleman. It's like, bro, his mentor was Peter fucking Teal,

683
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.799
<v Speaker 1>that just got done talking about the Antichrist? Okay, like

684
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>it's It wasn't like Peter Till woke up one day

685
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:56.440
<v Speaker 1>and was like, you know what I think I'm gonna

686
00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:59.839
<v Speaker 1>fucking talk about the Antichrist. I gathered Keely what happened.

687
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:02.720
<v Speaker 1>There's no way, there's no way, Like this is something

688
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>that he's been sitting on for a minute. Dude.

689
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.880
<v Speaker 2>He's he's not even like considered a religious person. He's

690
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.279
<v Speaker 2>openly gay and married to a man. He has never

691
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:12.960
<v Speaker 2>been like loud and proud about his Bible thumbing faith.

692
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:14.720
<v Speaker 2>This was out of left field.

693
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:16.799
<v Speaker 1>You don't need to be a Bible thumper to look

694
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:18.799
<v Speaker 1>into the Antichrist. No, no, you don't.

695
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:20.519
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to be that, no doubt, but to

696
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:22.920
<v Speaker 2>give a four part series like here's some sort of

697
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:26.720
<v Speaker 2>an authoritative figure on the subject. He's never Yeah, he

698
00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:30.079
<v Speaker 2>may claim Christianity, but he has never been a huge

699
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:32.880
<v Speaker 2>proponent of the Christian faith at all.

700
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:34.279
<v Speaker 1>So you know your point.

701
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he actually kind of randomly decided to do this

702
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:40.039
<v Speaker 2>as like a PR stunt, and it backfired one hundred percent.

703
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:42.680
<v Speaker 1>It was not a random situation that happened. What I'm

704
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:46.519
<v Speaker 1>saying here is is that these people are fucking a cultist. Dude.

705
00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:48.839
<v Speaker 1>You gotta look at it for what it is. You

706
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:51.559
<v Speaker 1>gotta look at it for what it is. Like people

707
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:54.559
<v Speaker 1>don't wake up and say, you know, I'm I'm I'm

708
00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:58.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna change my entire ideology. This is I mean, to

709
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>be honest, I think that he's personally if I had

710
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>to guess, I'm saying that Peter Thield, JD. Vans, all

711
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:07.799
<v Speaker 1>of them cobblists. Like that's just my guess, And a

712
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:09.559
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are not very out in the open

713
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:12.079
<v Speaker 1>with it, except for our fucking president that decided to

714
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>put it back in a book twenty five years ago. Yeah,

715
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:19.079
<v Speaker 1>so true. I think they're cobblists if I'm being real.

716
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:21.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, we do have a guy right now that

717
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:24.280
<v Speaker 2>is doing a real deep dive into the Kabbala. Joe

718
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:27.239
<v Speaker 2>may or may not be h No, not Joelle, and

719
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:29.320
<v Speaker 2>he may or may not be coming on this show

720
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:32.079
<v Speaker 2>as a guest to give us the rundown of it.

721
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:34.639
<v Speaker 2>But I don't want to give too many spoilers away

722
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:37.480
<v Speaker 2>because this guy is typically are very private due when

723
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:38.719
<v Speaker 2>it comes to his faiths.

724
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:42.719
<v Speaker 3>Are He's not a Cobolist for the record, he's not.

725
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:46.679
<v Speaker 2>He's looking into it to see what shreds of truth

726
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:50.159
<v Speaker 2>and what falsehoods there are in regard to the Kabbala

727
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:54.519
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to Judaism. And again, he's not a cobolist.

728
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:58.320
<v Speaker 2>He's he's never been very open about his beliefs on

729
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:00.920
<v Speaker 2>faith or anything. But he's a He listens to the show,

730
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:03.239
<v Speaker 2>and he listens to other conspiracy shows, and he's heard

731
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:05.880
<v Speaker 2>so many people reference the Kabala. So he's like, you

732
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:08.480
<v Speaker 2>know what, let me let me dive into the book,

733
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:12.440
<v Speaker 2>the actual Kabbala and not like somebody's interpretation thereof and

734
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:14.840
<v Speaker 2>see what it's all about. Is there some fuck shit

735
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:18.159
<v Speaker 2>in here? Is it something that's being misquoted and misused?

736
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Like what's the deal? And I told him, it's like, look,

737
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:23.719
<v Speaker 2>do this, please do. But while you're looking, I would

738
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:27.800
<v Speaker 2>love to know why the Freemasons use it so heavily,

739
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:32.400
<v Speaker 2>why so many Western esoteric groups use it so heavily

740
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:34.920
<v Speaker 2>If it is no if there's no funck shit with

741
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:37.199
<v Speaker 2>it whatsoever. So he's looking at it from a very

742
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:41.920
<v Speaker 2>outside perspective, but on the on the scholarly side of it,

743
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:45.440
<v Speaker 2>and I can appreciate that. But whoever this individual may be,

744
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:49.159
<v Speaker 2>I would like you to look at all the different

745
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:51.199
<v Speaker 2>ways to look at it, because.

746
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>There are multiple ways to use these esoteric systems. You know.

747
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:56.880
<v Speaker 1>You can use it for the good, you can use

748
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.199
<v Speaker 1>it for the bad. There's a fucking polarization that's going

749
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:02.159
<v Speaker 1>on in there. There is there are people that take

750
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>advantage of it, you know, because it is kind of

751
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, what they think, what they believe, it's kind

752
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:10.920
<v Speaker 1>of divine esoteric information, and so there's a there's ways

753
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:12.920
<v Speaker 1>of abusing it, and then there's ways of going about

754
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.519
<v Speaker 1>it the right way. I personally think that taking the

755
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:19.400
<v Speaker 1>right way, cabalism's probably not that bad. Like it's probably

756
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:23.639
<v Speaker 1>really not. And to be honest, I feel like most

757
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:27.400
<v Speaker 1>secret society like kind of information like that, it's not

758
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:30.079
<v Speaker 1>meant to take over the fucking world, dude. But people

759
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:33.360
<v Speaker 1>take that information and they learn that information, they're like, oh,

760
00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:35.800
<v Speaker 1>this is what I can do. Most of this shit

761
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:36.800
<v Speaker 1>is esoteric.

762
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:40.239
<v Speaker 3>It just want to take over the world, or at

763
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:41.280
<v Speaker 3>least did at one point.

764
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that people, some people took that information and

765
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>decided to use it for their their physical world advantage,

766
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:53.639
<v Speaker 1>which it's not meant to be used for. It is

767
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:57.679
<v Speaker 1>meant for your own, you know, understanding of the universe

768
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:00.599
<v Speaker 1>and your own understanding of reality. It's getting it's a

769
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:04.039
<v Speaker 1>deeper understanding of what you are and what like your

770
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.320
<v Speaker 1>place in reality is. The same thing could be said

771
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:08.199
<v Speaker 1>towards the Bible.

772
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:10.639
<v Speaker 2>And we're not having a big Christian debate on this episode,

773
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:14.840
<v Speaker 2>but like, it's not a secret that the Transatlantic slave trade, right,

774
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:17.360
<v Speaker 2>these people were cherry picking a verse from the Bible

775
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:19.559
<v Speaker 2>saying that, oh, right here it says this about slaves

776
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:21.880
<v Speaker 2>in the Bible. The Bible is cool with slavery, So

777
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:24.840
<v Speaker 2>all we have to do is baptize these enslaved people

778
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:28.079
<v Speaker 2>on the coast of Africa. Now they're Christian by default.

779
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Therefore they're hailed under the laws that say the slavery

780
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:33.800
<v Speaker 2>is cool bop bop, We're good to go, and you

781
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:36.119
<v Speaker 2>can still see these chapels around the coast of Africa.

782
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:38.199
<v Speaker 2>Or they used to baptize these people before putting them

783
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:41.960
<v Speaker 2>on the ships. So like to that point, the Bible

784
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:45.559
<v Speaker 2>is not meant to be used to gain earthly wealth

785
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:48.559
<v Speaker 2>and enslave people in these things, but people misquote it

786
00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:51.199
<v Speaker 2>and use it for discussing purposes. You're saying that the

787
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:54.519
<v Speaker 2>Kabbala probably we don't know this for a fact, what

788
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:57.440
<v Speaker 2>you're saying probably has been used in the exact same

789
00:37:57.440 --> 00:37:59.239
<v Speaker 2>way by people to try to gain.

790
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Power and wealth rather than using it for its true

791
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:03.960
<v Speaker 1>purpose one hundred percent. In just the way that we

792
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:07.639
<v Speaker 1>were talking about the Haitians with the hoodoo and the voodoo, right, like,

793
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:11.559
<v Speaker 1>they look into psalms and they treat the psalms as

794
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>it's literally like uh, like a cult in a way.

795
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:18.599
<v Speaker 1>So they'll use it in like magical spells if you

796
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:21.840
<v Speaker 1>really think about it, like they'll use psalms as magical

797
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:25.199
<v Speaker 1>spells and guess what they fucking work, dude, Like otherwise

798
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:28.079
<v Speaker 1>who doo wouldn't be a thing. And so the idea

799
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:32.239
<v Speaker 1>behind that is is that there are many levels to

800
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:35.320
<v Speaker 1>information and you can take it many of different ways,

801
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:37.559
<v Speaker 1>and it's all about how you apply it. The same

802
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:40.719
<v Speaker 1>thing about like even the Satanists think about it, like

803
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:44.360
<v Speaker 1>the Satanists are taking information from the Bible and other places,

804
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:48.159
<v Speaker 1>but it all started in the Bible or you know whatever,

805
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:51.840
<v Speaker 1>the Torah or whatever. Right, But it's all like that

806
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:55.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of saying information. And now they're using those demons,

807
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:59.239
<v Speaker 1>they're using those angels, they're using like those those magical

808
00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:05.159
<v Speaker 1>spiritual incantations almost and they're bastardizing it. That's literally the

809
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:08.199
<v Speaker 1>reason why the pentagram is upside down for them, because

810
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:12.360
<v Speaker 1>they are taking you know, the Pentagram, which is meant

811
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:17.000
<v Speaker 1>to just be like an elemental thing about you know, earth, water, fire, air,

812
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:20.119
<v Speaker 1>and the ether, right, and they're turning it upside down.

813
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>That's why that point points down because they're trying to

814
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Some would say that they're trying to pull like some

815
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:31.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of information from Hell or from the devil, and

816
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:34.320
<v Speaker 1>some people say, you know, they're actually they're not, because

817
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:36.719
<v Speaker 1>the idea that the point at the top of the pentagram,

818
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.800
<v Speaker 1>the idea is that you're pulling information down from Heaven

819
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:41.960
<v Speaker 1>or down from God or down from the angels. Whenever

820
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:44.480
<v Speaker 1>you flip that bad boy upside down. You're either a

821
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:46.760
<v Speaker 1>pulling it from the devil and pulling it from Hell

822
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:49.639
<v Speaker 1>and the demons and all that, or you're pointing it

823
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:52.559
<v Speaker 1>down to the earth for this physical reality so that

824
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>you can, you know, kinda stare step your way in

825
00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:01.719
<v Speaker 1>the physical reality, which I'm pretty sure you would agree

826
00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:05.000
<v Speaker 1>is not what the Bible was meant for, right, Yeah,

827
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:08.159
<v Speaker 1>So it's like there's multiple dude. That's why I say

828
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:11.880
<v Speaker 1>this shit is fucking forty five d sixty chess. Are

829
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:14.559
<v Speaker 1>people are doing this kind of magic and occult shit

830
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:18.960
<v Speaker 1>under your nose, not you, but under a lot of

831
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:21.199
<v Speaker 1>people's nose because you don't know what to look for.

832
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:23.800
<v Speaker 1>And this was my initial reason for wanting to look

833
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:25.800
<v Speaker 1>at it look at it in the first place. Because

834
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:29.840
<v Speaker 1>people are so quick to say it's that's satanic or

835
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:32.480
<v Speaker 1>that's demonic. I'm like, you don't even know the fucking

836
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:35.800
<v Speaker 1>characteristics of what you're talking about. You don't understand the

837
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>methods that they use.

838
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Agreed, But I'm still just speaking on behalf of myself.

839
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm still the belief that we live in a binary war,

840
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:44.800
<v Speaker 2>and it's not if it's not of the light, it's

841
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.960
<v Speaker 2>of the dark. There's very few gray areas. But that

842
00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:50.760
<v Speaker 2>being said, I don't know. I'm not saying it's a

843
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.599
<v Speaker 2>zero percent chance. I'm saying that I don't know if

844
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:58.599
<v Speaker 2>Brigitte Macrone has been doing these things for occult reasons

845
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:02.920
<v Speaker 2>or are her Emmanuel just into some kinky shit and

846
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:05.480
<v Speaker 2>they just like keeping up the lie. Both could be

847
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:07.840
<v Speaker 2>true at the same time, Both could absolutely be true

848
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:08.360
<v Speaker 2>at the same time.

849
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:10.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, and I don't know either.

850
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:12.559
<v Speaker 1>To be honest, I haven't really looked a whole lot

851
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:15.440
<v Speaker 1>into this whole Burgite Macrone thing. I'm just saying the

852
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.800
<v Speaker 1>some of the methods and the mechanisms of how, if

853
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:22.159
<v Speaker 1>they are dealing in the occult, how they would have

854
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.760
<v Speaker 1>gotten to the place that they are, Yeah, given the circumstance.

855
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:30.320
<v Speaker 2>So with all this being said, let's jump into some information,

856
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:33.199
<v Speaker 2>some articles to give everybody a good look at the

857
00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:37.280
<v Speaker 2>situation on the ground as of now. So the lawyer

858
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:42.239
<v Speaker 2>from Macron's confirmed photographic and scientific evidence to be presented

859
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:46.920
<v Speaker 2>to US courts over allegations of Burgerite Macrone born a male.

860
00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Now again, this is from September nineteenth of this year.

861
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.199
<v Speaker 2>That was the it was updated at that time. This

862
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:56.639
<v Speaker 2>article this is actually a Turkish publication, but.

863
00:41:56.679 --> 00:41:57.599
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'll take it.

864
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:01.599
<v Speaker 2>French President Emmanuel McCrone and his wife, quote unquote, Brigitte

865
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Macrone are planning to present scientific evidence in a defamation

866
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:07.159
<v Speaker 2>suit at a US court to prove that the First

867
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Lady is a woman. In an interview with the BBC

868
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Fame under Fire podcast, the Macrone's lawyer, Tom Claire put

869
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:17.119
<v Speaker 2>a pin in that name good cult members. Tom Claire,

870
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:19.239
<v Speaker 2>We're going to get to him, said they will present

871
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:23.199
<v Speaker 2>photographic and scientific evidence in the defamation lawsuit against right

872
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:26.760
<v Speaker 2>wing US influencer Candice Owens, who claims that Brigitte was

873
00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:30.000
<v Speaker 2>born a male. Claire said that the First Lady found

874
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:34.480
<v Speaker 2>the claims quote incredibly upsetting, no shit, and that they

875
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.599
<v Speaker 2>are a distraction for the French president. I don't want

876
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:41.159
<v Speaker 2>to suggest that it is somehow excuse me, this is

877
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:44.480
<v Speaker 2>a direct quote from Macrone or no, from the lawyer.

878
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to suggest that it somehow has thrown

879
00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:49.039
<v Speaker 2>him off his game. But just like anybody who is

880
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:51.679
<v Speaker 2>juggling a career and a family life, when your family

881
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:53.800
<v Speaker 2>is under attack, it wears on you. And he's not

882
00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:56.440
<v Speaker 2>immune from that because he's the president of a country.

883
00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:59.480
<v Speaker 2>That's what Claire said. Claire said the couple will present

884
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:03.519
<v Speaker 2>scientific evidence to fully refute the allegations, without disclosing further details.

885
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Macrone filed a lawsuit in July against the right wing podcaster,

886
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:11.000
<v Speaker 2>alleging that she engaged in defamation. The suit, filed in

887
00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:13.559
<v Speaker 2>a court in the state of Delaware, centers on Owen's

888
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:15.920
<v Speaker 2>claim that the French First Lady was born a man

889
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:19.119
<v Speaker 2>and transitioned to a woman under a stolen identity, as

890
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:22.599
<v Speaker 2>well as allegations that the Macrones are related and are

891
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:26.239
<v Speaker 2>so committing incest, and that Macrone was chosen to become

892
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:30.239
<v Speaker 2>the French president by the US spy agency, the CIA.

893
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:31.559
<v Speaker 1>Now pause real quick.

894
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:36.079
<v Speaker 2>The Macrones were using a guy in France who is

895
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:38.719
<v Speaker 2>that right now? I think their Minister of Justice, which

896
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:42.320
<v Speaker 2>is essentially their nation's ag right, there's like the Pambondi

897
00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:44.119
<v Speaker 2>of France if you want to give a comparison here,

898
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:48.360
<v Speaker 2>and when you look at Eric DuPont, which that's the

899
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:50.840
<v Speaker 2>guy's name for the er dupond rather with a d

900
00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:53.559
<v Speaker 2>if anybody wants to look at him. In some of

901
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:55.800
<v Speaker 2>the cases that he covered in the past, we did

902
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:59.000
<v Speaker 2>an episodere. We talked about it a bit, the incest

903
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:02.440
<v Speaker 2>and murder charges that were brought about against a French

904
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:05.280
<v Speaker 2>higher up for lack of better words, Remember I told

905
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:06.280
<v Speaker 2>you about that one, Jonathan I.

906
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:09.800
<v Speaker 1>It's been a minute, but yeah, long story short. This

907
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:14.119
<v Speaker 1>dad was raping two of his daughters.

908
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:17.960
<v Speaker 2>One of them got pregnant with his kid, and then

909
00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:21.239
<v Speaker 2>they she when she got to be old enough to

910
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:25.360
<v Speaker 2>file a lawsuit against him. This dude, Eric DuPont, who

911
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:29.000
<v Speaker 2>is a lawyer in France, high high profile lawyer, was

912
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:32.199
<v Speaker 2>able to actually convince the court that yes, this might

913
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:34.920
<v Speaker 2>seem bad on the onset, but this is a case

914
00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:38.880
<v Speaker 2>of happy incest. Like the daughter was completely down with it. It

915
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:41.119
<v Speaker 2>was an expression of love in a physical way. And

916
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:43.719
<v Speaker 2>although we may not understand it, who are we to

917
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:46.360
<v Speaker 2>judge his family? And this, that and the third and

918
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:49.280
<v Speaker 2>got him off of the of all charges. Okay, cut

919
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:53.320
<v Speaker 2>to this daughter who now has a son with her dad.

920
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Get and Mary's a guy or is like engaged to

921
00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:58.199
<v Speaker 2>a guy and they're you know, going from a spot

922
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:00.800
<v Speaker 2>and the dad kills them both and then commits suicide.

923
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:03.719
<v Speaker 3>So that's the current Minister of Justice.

924
00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:06.639
<v Speaker 2>For the nation of France, Eric Dupond, and that was

925
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:11.199
<v Speaker 2>going to be their lawyer on this case. Thankfully they

926
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:13.920
<v Speaker 2>fucking left him in France and now they have found

927
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:19.840
<v Speaker 2>American representation in Delaware for this case. Now this being said,

928
00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:26.920
<v Speaker 2>they're talking about providing photo evidence and scientific evidence. Okay,

929
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how the law system works in France.

930
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:31.360
<v Speaker 2>To be completely honest with you, I couldn't give a

931
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:34.800
<v Speaker 2>collective fuck about that. My point is in America, where

932
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:37.920
<v Speaker 2>we have a constitution, where we have freedom, where we

933
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:43.320
<v Speaker 2>use freedom metrics, not kilometers per wine glass or whatever

934
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:44.840
<v Speaker 2>the fuck kind of units they use of there, I

935
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:49.280
<v Speaker 2>don't know. In this nation, you have to provide evidence

936
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:51.199
<v Speaker 2>provided in this nation.

937
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:52.719
<v Speaker 1>What do I mean by that?

938
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:55.920
<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna come here with a doctor or a

939
00:45:55.960 --> 00:45:59.079
<v Speaker 2>doctor's note from a French doctor saying that he checked

940
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:00.360
<v Speaker 2>her out and she's totally girl.

941
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:02.920
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no o contrere Montfrere.

942
00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:05.920
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna find an American doctor to sign off on

943
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:10.480
<v Speaker 2>an American investigation done into this, because that's how the

944
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:14.119
<v Speaker 2>court proceedings work. You can't just bring evidence from one side.

945
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:17.800
<v Speaker 2>You have to cooberate that with both legal parties, meaning

946
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:21.400
<v Speaker 2>more often than not, both lawyers have to either a

947
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:25.000
<v Speaker 2>acknowledge that this scientific test and photograph is good or

948
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:27.280
<v Speaker 2>b you have to do two separate tests that they

949
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:29.159
<v Speaker 2>can both bring to the court to cooberate.

950
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:32.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's I have an issue with that. I mean,

951
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:35.000
<v Speaker 1>on the surface, it sounds like the right way, right,

952
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:38.440
<v Speaker 1>but we're talking about the American justice system, which is

953
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:42.679
<v Speaker 1>understood to be absolutely fucking not only broken, but shattered. Right,

954
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:48.480
<v Speaker 1>and especially if the French president, by the he was

955
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:51.320
<v Speaker 1>chosen to become the French president by the US by agency,

956
00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:54.639
<v Speaker 1>the CIA, as it alludes to in this article. If

957
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:59.280
<v Speaker 1>this CIA, if the CIA has any hand in this whatsoever,

958
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:02.519
<v Speaker 1>this is never going to get passed in court. This

959
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:06.519
<v Speaker 1>is never like Candace. Candace is fighting an uphill battle

960
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent with this whole thing, right, and everybody

961
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:11.840
<v Speaker 1>else that is calling a man man is is fighting

962
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:15.360
<v Speaker 1>an uphill battle. They're never going to legally come out

963
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:18.920
<v Speaker 1>and say that it is a man unless there is

964
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:23.360
<v Speaker 1>only one unless here And this is hopium, so don't

965
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:28.039
<v Speaker 1>get hopped up on it. And that's if the American

966
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:33.320
<v Speaker 1>political system and the judicial system is kind of feeding

967
00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:37.199
<v Speaker 1>Candace information in hopes to bring down the French presidency

968
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:39.760
<v Speaker 1>and all that kind of stuff, which I highly doubt,

969
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:42.679
<v Speaker 1>especially if they're the ones that place Macron at the

970
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:44.079
<v Speaker 1>at the head in the first place.

971
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:47.079
<v Speaker 2>But that's the other thing, too, dude, for the CIA

972
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:49.960
<v Speaker 2>to be the ones that put him in the position

973
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:52.719
<v Speaker 2>to be the prime minister or the president. I forget

974
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:56.280
<v Speaker 2>which position, but whatever. I have a hard time believing that.

975
00:47:56.440 --> 00:47:58.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that the CIA does not do that.

976
00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:03.840
<v Speaker 2>In nations they have so regularly, but France, like they

977
00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:06.800
<v Speaker 2>have Inner Pole, they have their own Moussade ties, they

978
00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:09.559
<v Speaker 2>have their own Russia ties, their own China issues, they

979
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:11.599
<v Speaker 2>have their own EU and NATO.

980
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Alliances and all the like. That's my point.

981
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:16.679
<v Speaker 2>It's not like France is a nation that we benefit

982
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:20.400
<v Speaker 2>from them going on the downhill slope. They're a really

983
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:23.480
<v Speaker 2>close ally of ours. We stand to benefit from them

984
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:26.920
<v Speaker 2>doing well as a nation. We don't benefit from them collapsing.

985
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:28.840
<v Speaker 2>You see what I'm saying. I just I have a

986
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:31.719
<v Speaker 2>hard time seeing the CI having an actual hand in this.

987
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:34.679
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying that it's impossible. I'm just saying

988
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I can't see the writing on the wall with this one.

989
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:42.119
<v Speaker 2>But does a coup mean a collapse not always, but typically, Yes,

990
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Typically when a coup takes place, there is some turmoil

991
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:49.159
<v Speaker 2>in the nation, and not just like protesters, like usually

992
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:52.639
<v Speaker 2>there's arm conflicts, there's there's buildings being burned down, there's

993
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:55.559
<v Speaker 2>civil unrest and shit like that when a coup takes place.

994
00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:57.599
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, I don't know.

995
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean that being said, the French governments elapsed three

996
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:03.320
<v Speaker 2>times in the last two years, so it's like, and

997
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:05.199
<v Speaker 2>again I don't have a hard time believing that.

998
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:08.360
<v Speaker 1>That was because of a CIA op. You know what

999
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I can't.

1000
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:10.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying it's one hundred percent, no way in

1001
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:13.440
<v Speaker 2>hell there is for sure chances of this. I just

1002
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:17.440
<v Speaker 2>don't see what America would stand to benefit from that.

1003
00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:22.320
<v Speaker 1>That's all. Well, that'd being said speaking of systems collapsing

1004
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and just talking about, you know, the government being shut

1005
00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:31.280
<v Speaker 1>down in our country. Allegedly, there is going to be

1006
00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:34.800
<v Speaker 1>somewhat of an uprising November first, from what I've been

1007
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:39.320
<v Speaker 1>seeing all on social media, with all of the people

1008
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:45.559
<v Speaker 1>who were regularly receiving food stamps are now saying the

1009
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:47.880
<v Speaker 1>government owes me this, and if I don't get it

1010
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:50.960
<v Speaker 1>from the government, I'm going to find a way to

1011
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:55.280
<v Speaker 1>get it. So and I'm just gonna be rerail right here.

1012
00:49:55.559 --> 00:50:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Some people will say, well, good, you know, the worthless.

1013
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Some people would refer to them as the people that

1014
00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:04.760
<v Speaker 1>were getting food stamps. I at one time was getting

1015
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:07.840
<v Speaker 1>food stamps. So I have sympathy for this. And if

1016
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:10.400
<v Speaker 1>you think about it, you know, just because the government

1017
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:13.039
<v Speaker 1>shut down and the government is not going to be

1018
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:15.559
<v Speaker 1>issuing any more food stamps or what is it called

1019
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:20.079
<v Speaker 1>EFTs or something like that, just because they're not issuing

1020
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:23.239
<v Speaker 1>that does not mean that that that money is being

1021
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:26.840
<v Speaker 1>put towards something else, right Like, they're holding on to

1022
00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:28.960
<v Speaker 1>that money right escrow.

1023
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:31.400
<v Speaker 3>And that's the deal. The Democrats are the reason right now.

1024
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:32.880
<v Speaker 2>And yes, I know what I'm about to say is

1025
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:34.199
<v Speaker 2>going to piss off some people.

1026
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, fine.

1027
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:38.960
<v Speaker 2>As it stands, the Democrats are refusing to come to

1028
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:41.719
<v Speaker 2>work and vote on things, and that's why the government

1029
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:44.280
<v Speaker 2>is shut down. The Democrats are blaming the Republicans for

1030
00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:47.239
<v Speaker 2>being unwavering. The Republicans are blaming the Democrats for not

1031
00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:48.679
<v Speaker 2>coming in and doing their fucking jobs.

1032
00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:49.599
<v Speaker 1>Either way that goes.

1033
00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:51.960
<v Speaker 2>But I think the Democrats want this to happen so

1034
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:54.760
<v Speaker 2>that there will be civil unrests in the nation. They're

1035
00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:59.920
<v Speaker 2>using the people as collateral and as the fire under the.

1036
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Asked, so to speak. On the other hand of that,

1037
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that the Republicans know that and they're trying

1038
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:09.159
<v Speaker 1>to use it to their own advantage. So it's like

1039
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:11.719
<v Speaker 1>there's a bunch of people that are not worried about,

1040
00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:14.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, the the citizens' best interest. You're talking about politicians.

1041
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:17.400
<v Speaker 1>They couldn't give a fuck about me or you because

1042
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:20.000
<v Speaker 1>they just care about their bank account growing. And if

1043
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:22.480
<v Speaker 1>they can see, why is it that every politician leaves

1044
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.360
<v Speaker 1>office and there are all a sudden fucking quadrillionaires, Like

1045
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:28.679
<v Speaker 1>it makes no fucking sense. I mean, you're you're making

1046
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:30.360
<v Speaker 1>one hundred grand a year and all of a sudden,

1047
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:34.639
<v Speaker 1>like you have seven manches, seven mansions, like fucking Bernie

1048
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Sanders out there. You know, Yeah, I agree.

1049
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Now, Okay, getting back to the case here, they're talking

1050
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:42.280
<v Speaker 2>about how the CIA put Macron in the seat of

1051
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:45.159
<v Speaker 2>power that he's in. Again, there may be some truth

1052
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:48.119
<v Speaker 2>to that. I can't verify that whatsoever. As far as

1053
00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:51.519
<v Speaker 2>I can tell, that's Candice Owens saying some things, and

1054
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:54.159
<v Speaker 2>she does show receipts in certain regards and in other regard,

1055
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:55.719
<v Speaker 2>she just tells you, like, trust me.

1056
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:57.599
<v Speaker 1>Bro, that's my source. Just trust me Bro.

1057
00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:00.320
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know how credible that claim is, but

1058
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:04.280
<v Speaker 2>either way it goes. The two hundred and nineteen page

1059
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:08.079
<v Speaker 2>complaint seeks a jury trial on twenty two counts related

1060
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:11.280
<v Speaker 2>to the claims made on Owens's show, including an eight

1061
00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:13.920
<v Speaker 2>part series that made a number of claims about the Macrones,

1062
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:18.559
<v Speaker 2>as well as over Owen's rebuffed to three retraction demands

1063
00:52:18.599 --> 00:52:21.960
<v Speaker 2>since since last December. According to the suit, false claims

1064
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:25.000
<v Speaker 2>about Brigitte Macrone's gender have circulated on social media for years,

1065
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:27.800
<v Speaker 2>dating back to twenty twenty one, when two French women

1066
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:30.119
<v Speaker 2>posted a YouTube video alleging that she was once a

1067
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:33.639
<v Speaker 2>man named Jean Michelle Troun, who is actually her brother.

1068
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:37.440
<v Speaker 2>They're saying that basically the brother became the sister on

1069
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:40.280
<v Speaker 2>that one. In July, the Macrones also took the case

1070
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:42.719
<v Speaker 2>against the two women to the highest appeals court in Paris.

1071
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:47.800
<v Speaker 2>The Paris Court of Appeals overturned its earlier convictions. So

1072
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:52.239
<v Speaker 2>these women never actually saw quote unquote justice for the

1073
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:56.480
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote defamation that took place. Again, every time that

1074
00:52:56.559 --> 00:52:58.800
<v Speaker 2>somebody has tried or they the Macrones have tried to

1075
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:00.159
<v Speaker 2>bring somebody to court over the this.

1076
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:03.199
<v Speaker 1>It's always been in one way, shape or form, pushed

1077
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:07.599
<v Speaker 1>under the rug because you can't prove something that's not true,

1078
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:10.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, and so you can put up the facade.

1079
00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna sue you, I'm going to counter sue you.

1080
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:16.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna sue you for defamation. But you know, eventually

1081
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:18.920
<v Speaker 1>it gets up to that highest point. Maybe it'll go

1082
00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:21.320
<v Speaker 1>as far as the fucking Supreme Court over here, we'll see,

1083
00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:25.519
<v Speaker 1>but eventually it'll get thrown out. Like or Candace is

1084
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:29.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna get on alived. Some something is going to happen.

1085
00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:32.360
<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna be a clean cut either A she

1086
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:35.039
<v Speaker 1>is a man a or B she's not a man.

1087
00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:37.840
<v Speaker 1>It's not going to be clean cut. Our justicism is

1088
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:41.280
<v Speaker 1>never clean cut that way, especially whenever you're talking about

1089
00:53:41.320 --> 00:53:46.239
<v Speaker 1>like such high ranking individuals. Dude, if we believed in

1090
00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:50.199
<v Speaker 1>our justice system, why is Diddy only getting five years? Right? Why?

1091
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:52.559
<v Speaker 3>Which of that he'll probably serve six months?

1092
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:55.920
<v Speaker 1>By the way, So you remember how we talked about

1093
00:53:56.079 --> 00:53:59.559
<v Speaker 1>just like Maxwell, she was transferred to Brian Texas just

1094
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:01.519
<v Speaker 1>what a couple of months ago, which is kind of

1095
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:03.519
<v Speaker 1>crazy because that's the town that electro Nick lives in.

1096
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:06.280
<v Speaker 1>How and that was said to be kind of like

1097
00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:11.000
<v Speaker 1>a high security prison, right, how About she just got

1098
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:14.920
<v Speaker 1>transferred again to a very very like a very well

1099
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:20.760
<v Speaker 1>known low security uh jail or prison. It's still in Texas,

1100
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:23.079
<v Speaker 1>but she just got transferred there, and people are saying,

1101
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:26.519
<v Speaker 1>watch out, Gisele Maxwell did not kill herself. So I

1102
00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:28.760
<v Speaker 1>just want to throw it out there, like, if you're

1103
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:33.519
<v Speaker 1>transferring somebody like this to a low security prison, I

1104
00:54:33.559 --> 00:54:36.039
<v Speaker 1>would not be shocked if if cameras go out, I

1105
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:38.440
<v Speaker 1>would not be shocked if she just so happens to

1106
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:40.440
<v Speaker 1>have a couple of extra bed sheets and a couple

1107
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:44.159
<v Speaker 1>of extra jumpsuit jumpsuits in that cell, right, and maybe

1108
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the prison guards fall asleep, maybe the maybe literally nobody

1109
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:52.639
<v Speaker 1>ever got trafficked. Watch just mark my fucking words.

1110
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I agree with this one hundred percent. Honestly,

1111
00:54:56.599 --> 00:54:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised it took this long. I'm surprised it took

1112
00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:01.320
<v Speaker 2>this long for some to actually try to question her,

1113
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:03.920
<v Speaker 2>or at least give off the image that they questioned her.

1114
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Of course, they're not gonna talk about what she spoke

1115
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:09.440
<v Speaker 2>on they're not gonna release that. That's incriminating to so

1116
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:12.119
<v Speaker 2>many people in high places. And fine, fine, but no

1117
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:14.400
<v Speaker 2>one even tried to make the attempt to give off

1118
00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:17.239
<v Speaker 2>the image that, well, we questioned her, she's just being

1119
00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:21.360
<v Speaker 2>non compliant. No one even attempted to do that until

1120
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:22.280
<v Speaker 2>a few months ago.

1121
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:25.360
<v Speaker 1>It's my numbing. It is my numbing. And I'll tell

1122
00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:28.400
<v Speaker 1>you what, dude. And the all the fucking Democrats, which,

1123
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:30.840
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I can't stand either fucking side, So

1124
00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:32.880
<v Speaker 1>don't take any offense and assume that I'm the other

1125
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:34.920
<v Speaker 1>side just because I'm, you know, kind of coming down

1126
00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:37.599
<v Speaker 1>on one here. But all the Democrats out there that

1127
00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:41.119
<v Speaker 1>are saying we need to release the Epstein files, Trump

1128
00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:43.239
<v Speaker 1>is clearly on it, and that's why he doesn't want

1129
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:45.679
<v Speaker 1>to release it. Where were you for four years? Where

1130
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:48.119
<v Speaker 1>were you like you would have? Did you hide in

1131
00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:50.480
<v Speaker 1>a fucking under a rock? Were you in a closet?

1132
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Did you Why are we not holding everybody accountable and

1133
00:55:54.360 --> 00:55:57.480
<v Speaker 1>not just those perceived to be your adversaries.

1134
00:55:58.039 --> 00:55:59.840
<v Speaker 2>You understand that if they would have come out with

1135
00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:02.280
<v Speaker 2>the while Biden was in office, First of all, yes,

1136
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:04.199
<v Speaker 2>that would have fucked over the Biden family. I get that,

1137
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:06.360
<v Speaker 2>but that also would have made it to where Trump

1138
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:09.239
<v Speaker 2>would have not gotten reelected. Yeah, if that's true, and

1139
00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:11.280
<v Speaker 2>if his name is on it as many times that

1140
00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:14.519
<v Speaker 2>has been speculating all this, if they would have dropped

1141
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:17.719
<v Speaker 2>that fucking truth bomb, you understand that we wouldn't have

1142
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:19.320
<v Speaker 2>the president we have right now.

1143
00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:23.599
<v Speaker 1>Trump literally ran on whenever I get in office, I'm

1144
00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:26.679
<v Speaker 1>going to look into the Epstein files. Everybody knew that,

1145
00:56:26.719 --> 00:56:30.000
<v Speaker 1>not even just Trump. Cash Patel was saying it going

1146
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:31.400
<v Speaker 1>on to all these other podcasts.

1147
00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Dan's why he showed the podcasters to be the head

1148
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:36.840
<v Speaker 2>of the CIA, because they're looking into the real shit.

1149
00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:39.199
<v Speaker 2>They'll release it. They're one of the people, They're one

1150
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:40.360
<v Speaker 2>of us. The fuck they.

1151
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Are, Dan Bong Jean do the same thing. You know,

1152
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I people had high hopes, but you know, you can

1153
00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:48.760
<v Speaker 1>clearly tell that these people are absolutely hiding something like

1154
00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:52.079
<v Speaker 1>the people like if you think about like a like mentalists.

1155
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:54.519
<v Speaker 1>I watch like a lot of mentalists kind of shit.

1156
00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I just find it so fascinating. Mentalists, Well, you know,

1157
00:56:57.360 --> 00:57:00.880
<v Speaker 1>they can read facial language and they look for the

1158
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:03.679
<v Speaker 1>tiniest little things that you do on your face and

1159
00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:08.039
<v Speaker 1>it gives away information, right, Like even they're saying, like, dude,

1160
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:11.719
<v Speaker 1>watch Cash Betel, watch Dan Bongino, whenever they're saying that

1161
00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Epstein killed himself and it was clear and obvious, or

1162
00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:18.119
<v Speaker 1>watch both of them whenever they're like, yeah, I mean

1163
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:22.079
<v Speaker 1>there is no Epstein flight log and it was just

1164
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:24.639
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a Democrat a hoax, and it's like,

1165
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:27.400
<v Speaker 1>you know what to look like, you know, a bullshitter,

1166
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:30.960
<v Speaker 1>like and nobody bought that. Nobody, Like, name one person

1167
00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:34.920
<v Speaker 1>that believes that the Epstein files are a Democrat hoax.

1168
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:36.960
<v Speaker 1>If it was such a Democrat hoax, Trump, why were

1169
00:57:36.960 --> 00:57:39.199
<v Speaker 1>you talking about it so much? Cash Hotel? Why were

1170
00:57:39.239 --> 00:57:41.559
<v Speaker 1>you talking about it so much? You know, it's funny

1171
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:44.079
<v Speaker 1>how it's only a Democrat hoax. Whenever you're in power

1172
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and you have the power to be able to push

1173
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:47.519
<v Speaker 1>it up to the forefront, you fox.

1174
00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:49.800
<v Speaker 2>The same way with the Democrats, Like if it was

1175
00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:52.760
<v Speaker 2>a guarantee that Trump was on the list, why didn't

1176
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:55.840
<v Speaker 2>you release it the whole time prior to Yes, I'm

1177
00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:59.199
<v Speaker 2>with you one hundred percent, dude, it's they're all on it.

1178
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:02.480
<v Speaker 3>And I don't mean every single politician that you voted for.

1179
00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:05.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying the majority of them I think that's actually

1180
00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:07.599
<v Speaker 2>a pretty fair statement to make, or at least if

1181
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:09.840
<v Speaker 2>they weren't on it, they were complicit and knew that

1182
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:11.679
<v Speaker 2>the ones that were on it were on it, like

1183
00:58:11.719 --> 00:58:12.880
<v Speaker 2>they knew that their homies.

1184
00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:15.119
<v Speaker 1>Even though yeah, well we're all.

1185
00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Like politicians and this and this, even if it's ten

1186
00:58:18.039 --> 00:58:21.679
<v Speaker 2>percent of Congress and ten percent of the Senate or

1187
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:27.119
<v Speaker 2>whatever the house were frequent flyers to Epstein Island, there's

1188
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:31.760
<v Speaker 2>no fucking way that the other people didn't know that

1189
00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:34.760
<v Speaker 2>they had gone told Jeff's place like that.

1190
00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:38.079
<v Speaker 1>Here's no way you're equally guilty. Yeah, And I will

1191
00:58:38.119 --> 00:58:40.280
<v Speaker 1>say there are two people out in the forefront that

1192
00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:44.119
<v Speaker 1>are trying to get these things that this Epstein shit released,

1193
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and I just want to throw it out there, and

1194
00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I've watched it ad nauseum. These two people that I'm

1195
00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:52.840
<v Speaker 1>about to name did not kill themselves. And I'm talking

1196
00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:56.840
<v Speaker 1>about Marjorie Taylor Green and Thomas Massey and Thomas Massey's an.

1197
00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I know some people cannot fuck with Marjorie Taylor Green.

1198
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:03.119
<v Speaker 2>They feel some type of way about her.

1199
00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:04.639
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I get it.

1200
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:06.880
<v Speaker 2>He may not like her political affiliations, you may not

1201
00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:09.760
<v Speaker 2>like some of her talking points, shouts out to her

1202
00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:12.400
<v Speaker 2>for keeping it tin toes down with looking for the

1203
00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:15.639
<v Speaker 2>truth on this. If nothing else, let's give some fucking

1204
00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:17.159
<v Speaker 2>props where they're due, y Sam.

1205
00:59:17.199 --> 00:59:19.119
<v Speaker 1>She was a full on Q tard at first, like

1206
00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:21.440
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent. She was full on the Trump train,

1207
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:25.079
<v Speaker 1>and now she's she's distanced herself. Same thing with Thomas Massey.

1208
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:27.480
<v Speaker 1>They are trying to drag his name through the mud,

1209
00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:30.480
<v Speaker 1>and I'm telling you look into him, and I promise

1210
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:32.599
<v Speaker 1>you whatever he speaks is going to be speaking right

1211
00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:34.920
<v Speaker 1>to your fucking soul. Like that guy is on one

1212
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:37.079
<v Speaker 1>right now. And I like, if I could vote for

1213
00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:39.719
<v Speaker 1>a president, I don't have a lot of faith in

1214
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:43.639
<v Speaker 1>politics in general. If I did have some, it would

1215
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:47.159
<v Speaker 1>be going towards him. It'd be going towards uh Rand Paul.

1216
00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:50.320
<v Speaker 1>These are the people that are calling all this Epstein

1217
00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:52.559
<v Speaker 1>shit out. So these are the real ones in my opinion.

1218
00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:55.519
<v Speaker 2>And now it's interesting that we're talking about this because

1219
00:59:55.559 --> 01:00:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Trump has been suing so many companies for defamation. Then

1220
01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:04.480
<v Speaker 2>once he took off as and he has won millions

1221
01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:09.039
<v Speaker 2>and millions and millions and millions of dollars from these

1222
01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:13.239
<v Speaker 2>big name corporations. So now let's talk about the lawyer

1223
01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:17.360
<v Speaker 2>who is leading the charge on this macrone defamation case.

1224
01:00:18.079 --> 01:00:21.239
<v Speaker 2>He is a famous lawyer, although you may not be

1225
01:00:21.320 --> 01:00:25.320
<v Speaker 2>familiar with his other important case. As soon as it

1226
01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:28.199
<v Speaker 2>gets brought up, you're gonna have a massive red flag

1227
01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:29.000
<v Speaker 2>go up in your head.

1228
01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Let's listen to the man himself.

1229
01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is Tom Claire, attorney for the mccrones, explaining

1230
01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:37.639
<v Speaker 2>why they are suing Candice Owens for defamation. This was

1231
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:40.239
<v Speaker 2>dropped three months ago on CNN. But I think he'll

1232
01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:42.480
<v Speaker 2>do a good job of speaking on behalf of himself

1233
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:43.760
<v Speaker 2>for who he is and what he's about.

1234
01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:45.639
<v Speaker 1>Just looking at him, I don't trust him.

1235
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, this is the anchor. This isn't him.

1236
01:00:47.480 --> 01:00:48.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, well I don't trust him.

1237
01:00:48.920 --> 01:00:49.079
<v Speaker 4>Same.

1238
01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:51.360
<v Speaker 2>He's a fucking journalist and we don't trust that bitch neither,

1239
01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:51.960
<v Speaker 2>no non object.

1240
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:55.599
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, he looks like Christopher lloyd On who framed

1241
01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Roger Rabbit. Oh yeah, got shit?

1242
01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:01.599
<v Speaker 2>Huh right? All right, So here he is Tom clear.

1243
01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Let's see what he's going to say.

1244
01:01:03.559 --> 01:01:06.280
<v Speaker 4>Here's a bit of like reading for you. It runs

1245
01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:08.920
<v Speaker 4>to some two hundred pages or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>It runs to actually two hundred and nineteen pages. It

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<v Speaker 4>is if you read the front of it. It's in

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<v Speaker 4>the Superior Court of the State of Delaware. Emmanuel Macron PRIGITP.

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01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:25.840
<v Speaker 4>Macron against Candace Owens. The French president and his wife

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01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:30.440
<v Speaker 4>are suing writing podcaster in the US four reviving claims

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01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:35.199
<v Speaker 4>that BRIGITP. Macron could be a man now. The lawsuit

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01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:39.639
<v Speaker 4>accuses Candace Owens of carrying out what the Macron's lawyer

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<v Speaker 4>calls a relentless, year long campaign of defamation. Owens teased

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<v Speaker 4>on social media that she will be addressed the story

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<v Speaker 4>on a podcast in the coming hours. We've reached out

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<v Speaker 4>to her for further comment. Tom Claire is the attorney

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<v Speaker 4>representing the Macrons and joins me, now, mister Claire, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>grateful you will forgive me. I've not read much of

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<v Speaker 4>the two hundred and nineteen pages at this point, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's still early days. Look, Tom, politicians, Macrons, they used

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<v Speaker 4>to having everything thrown at them. Why did they decide

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<v Speaker 4>on this occasion this had to be litigated and therefore

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<v Speaker 4>into the full glare of publicity.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course, thanks for having me, Richard.

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<v Speaker 6>The Macrons, just like any other person, have a reputation

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<v Speaker 6>and they have a right to their reputation, and this

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01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:34.920
<v Speaker 6>was not in any way their first choice was to

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<v Speaker 6>have to bring this claim. For the better part of

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<v Speaker 6>seven months, they have tried to get Candice Owens to

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<v Speaker 6>acknowledge the facts and evidence proving that her claims are

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<v Speaker 6>wrong and to engage constructively with the truth. And each

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01:02:47.840 --> 01:02:50.760
<v Speaker 6>time she has mocked them, and she was repeated and

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01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:51.519
<v Speaker 6>doubled down on.

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<v Speaker 5>Her false claims. And I would say also, these types

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01:02:55.079 --> 01:02:55.679
<v Speaker 5>of false.

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<v Speaker 6>Statements become a cancer, right, they metastasized into other media outlets,

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01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:04.360
<v Speaker 6>and pretty soon it becomes an accepted part of the narrative.

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<v Speaker 5>And the President and Missus Macron had had enough.

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<v Speaker 6>This is somebody who has put herself with Candice Owns,

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<v Speaker 6>has put herself at the epicenter of this lie here

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<v Speaker 6>in the United States.

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<v Speaker 5>And don't you feel so important to hold her accountable?

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<v Speaker 4>Don't you feel that you're just going to give it

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01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:25.280
<v Speaker 4>more oxygen? And yes, you know, eventually the Macrons may

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01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:30.039
<v Speaker 4>prevail in cases, but they'll be depositions, they'll be witness statements.

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<v Speaker 4>They're going to have to I mean, you know what

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01:03:31.559 --> 01:03:34.400
<v Speaker 4>you do if suddenly it goes to trial, which it

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01:03:34.519 --> 01:03:37.239
<v Speaker 4>probably won't do. But if it goes to trial and

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<v Speaker 4>Owens calls.

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<v Speaker 6>The Macrons, well, look, the fact that they are willing

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<v Speaker 6>to undergo that process that you just described conveys volumes

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01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:48.800
<v Speaker 6>about how serious they are about this and how important

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01:03:48.800 --> 01:03:51.079
<v Speaker 6>it is to them to stand up to this. They

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01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:56.320
<v Speaker 6>are incredibly hurt by the falsehoods and the repetition of

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01:03:56.360 --> 01:03:58.880
<v Speaker 6>these falsehoods, and that they are prepared to undergo that

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01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:02.039
<v Speaker 6>crucible volumes about how important it is to them. And

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<v Speaker 6>you're right, it does give more airtime to Candice Owens

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<v Speaker 6>than she deserves.

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<v Speaker 5>You're one hundred percent right about that.

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<v Speaker 6>But it is important that the public be properly informed,

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01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:12.760
<v Speaker 6>and the way we do that in our system is

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01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:14.760
<v Speaker 6>through the court system, where there are rules and evidence

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01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:16.280
<v Speaker 6>and standards, and they're prepared to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>What I mean, it is a bit well, it's perfectly legitimate,

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01:04:21.239 --> 01:04:22.719
<v Speaker 4>but it is a bit weird for a president of

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01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:25.280
<v Speaker 4>one country to be suing in the courts of another.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I will acknowledge that it is it is.

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01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:33.519
<v Speaker 6>It is not without precedent, But again, it speaks volumes

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01:04:33.559 --> 01:04:35.840
<v Speaker 6>to how important this is to President and missus McCrumb

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01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:37.880
<v Speaker 6>that they are willing to that, they're willing to come

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01:04:37.920 --> 01:04:39.679
<v Speaker 6>to the United States and do it. And plus, this

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01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:42.159
<v Speaker 6>is where candae Owans can be found. It's important for

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01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:45.400
<v Speaker 6>her United States audience to see this play out in

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01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:47.400
<v Speaker 6>a public courtroom and in a public filing.

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<v Speaker 4>What are they seeking other than a cease and desist?

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01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:56.320
<v Speaker 4>Are they seeking large damages? Are they seeking, as we've

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<v Speaker 4>seen in other cases, essentially the closure of her company

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01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:00.639
<v Speaker 4>and that podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>And they like.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry, So this is a claim for monetary damages.

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<v Speaker 6>In the United States, a claim for defamation only can

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01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:12.679
<v Speaker 6>cover defamation damages, so damages to reputation, economic harm, and

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01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:15.159
<v Speaker 6>the like. And we'll come forward to prove those things

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01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:19.159
<v Speaker 6>at trial. But we also hope to say set the

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01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:21.320
<v Speaker 6>record straight. We're going to have a public trial. The

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01:05:21.320 --> 01:05:26.280
<v Speaker 6>evidence is going to be presented, and this crazy conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 5>Narrative is going to be put to rest for once

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<v Speaker 5>and for all.

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<v Speaker 4>You do realize if this comes to trial, it will

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01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:33.480
<v Speaker 4>be a circus the like of which we've never seen before.

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<v Speaker 6>Certainly understand that we're no stranger to that. When our

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01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:43.679
<v Speaker 6>firm took on dominion, our firm represented dominion voting systems

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01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:46.760
<v Speaker 6>in the case against Fox News a few years ago,

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01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:52.239
<v Speaker 6>same court room, same court house, same media circus, and

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<v Speaker 6>so we stand ready to stand shoulder to shoulder with

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<v Speaker 6>President Missus Macron as they go through that.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom, please come, okay, just so we're all cli wow,

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01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:02.440
<v Speaker 2>we're all on the same page.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go ahead and replay that part.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I feel like not enough people understand that the

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01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:13.880
<v Speaker 2>lawyer that is representing the Macrones is the same lawyer

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<v Speaker 2>that represented Dominion Voting in the fucking voter fraud that

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01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:20.440
<v Speaker 2>took place. Once again, let's hear from the man himself.

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<v Speaker 5>Firm took on dominion.

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01:06:22.239 --> 01:06:24.960
<v Speaker 6>Our firm represented Dominion voting systems in the case against

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01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:29.159
<v Speaker 6>Fox News a few years ago. Same court room, same

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01:06:29.199 --> 01:06:32.760
<v Speaker 6>court house, same same media circus, and.

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01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Same room, same courthouse. Oh, I believe that is the

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01:06:38.920 --> 01:06:41.599
<v Speaker 1>reason why Tucker Carlson got fired off of Fox News,

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01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:43.360
<v Speaker 1>right indeed it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, let's learn a little bit more about this guy

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01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:50.760
<v Speaker 2>in the whole situation, right, old Tom Claire, Thomas Claire

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01:06:51.239 --> 01:06:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Save the Company. Legal work ended with one of the

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01:06:54.360 --> 01:06:58.719
<v Speaker 2>most publicized settlements of twenty twenty three. The most consequential

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01:06:58.719 --> 01:07:01.679
<v Speaker 2>litigation of Thomas claire career began with a phone call

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<v Speaker 2>on a quiet Thanksgiving afternoon or weekend at his Alexandria home, Alexandria,

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01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:07.800
<v Speaker 2>where I used to live. As a matter of fact,

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01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:10.800
<v Speaker 2>when I was stationed in DC, things didn't stay quiet

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01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:15.559
<v Speaker 2>for long. It was Dominion Voting System Claire recalls. They

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01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:19.440
<v Speaker 2>were requesting that our firm joined their litigation against Fox

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01:07:19.559 --> 01:07:22.920
<v Speaker 2>News and other media companies which had been spreading false

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01:07:22.960 --> 01:07:26.559
<v Speaker 2>stories about the integrity of Dominion's voting machines. I was

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01:07:26.599 --> 01:07:29.000
<v Speaker 2>thrilled to get the call and very honored that Dominion

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01:07:29.039 --> 01:07:32.639
<v Speaker 2>thought we could add some value. Claire was no stranger

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01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:35.760
<v Speaker 2>to high profile, high stakes defamation litigation. His firm has

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01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:39.400
<v Speaker 2>successfully sued Rolling Stone Magazine and obtained a jury verdict

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01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:44.000
<v Speaker 2>in a libel case against Puma Biotechnology. Plus he previously

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01:07:44.079 --> 01:07:47.440
<v Speaker 2>achieved a ten million dollars settlement and the front page

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01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:51.599
<v Speaker 2>apology from the Cincinnati Enquirer when he was a at

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01:07:51.719 --> 01:07:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Kirkland and Ellis. So let's continue. But this case felt different.

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01:07:56.119 --> 01:07:58.079
<v Speaker 2>Part of the reason we felt such a moral imperative

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01:07:58.079 --> 01:07:59.960
<v Speaker 2>to bring this case was to make sure the folk

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01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:03.079
<v Speaker 2>were being treated fairly under the law. But beyond that,

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01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:05.079
<v Speaker 2>there was an enormous amount of harm done to our

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01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:08.400
<v Speaker 2>country by the dissemination of these falsehoods on cable TV,

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01:08:08.840 --> 01:08:11.159
<v Speaker 2>and he created a great deal of concern with and

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01:08:11.199 --> 01:08:15.519
<v Speaker 2>distrust of our electoral system. Claire's attitude for law became

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01:08:15.559 --> 01:08:18.760
<v Speaker 2>a parent in early childhood. His parents quote unquote sentenced

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01:08:18.960 --> 01:08:21.720
<v Speaker 2>him and his younger brother to writing five hundred sentences

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01:08:21.760 --> 01:08:24.560
<v Speaker 2>for some minor vandalism around the house. Claire felt that

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01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:28.399
<v Speaker 2>the punishment didn't fit the crime, and he pleaded his case.

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01:08:28.439 --> 01:08:30.800
<v Speaker 2>His dad finally conceded and he had made some strong

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01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:32.720
<v Speaker 2>points and when with drew the punishment, long story short,

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01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:33.920
<v Speaker 2>he knew he wanted to be a lawyer.

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01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:36.119
<v Speaker 1>From very early on through.

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01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:38.319
<v Speaker 2>The winter of twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, attorneys

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01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:40.600
<v Speaker 2>at Claire and Locke, which he is a partner in

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01:08:40.600 --> 01:08:43.239
<v Speaker 2>this company. It's him and his wife, by the way, Locke,

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01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:46.640
<v Speaker 2>that's his wife. They owned the law firm. Along with

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01:08:46.840 --> 01:08:50.680
<v Speaker 2>co counsel Susman Godfrey and Dominion's own legal team, worked

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01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:54.439
<v Speaker 2>to debunk continuing the miss representations. Claire felt some of

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01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:57.199
<v Speaker 2>the claims being made on cable and or social media

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01:08:57.239 --> 01:09:01.159
<v Speaker 2>were outrageous. For instance, he says a truly implausible allegation

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01:09:01.239 --> 01:09:03.520
<v Speaker 2>that Dominion was shipping the votes to Europe and shipping

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01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:06.640
<v Speaker 2>them back again. And an affidavit that was floating around

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01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:10.600
<v Speaker 2>that supposedly provided support for this notion that Dominion voting

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01:09:10.640 --> 01:09:13.640
<v Speaker 2>machines had been created for Hugo Chavez to be able

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01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:17.439
<v Speaker 2>to rig elections in Venezuela. Okay, real quick, I never

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01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:20.600
<v Speaker 2>one time heard anything about ballots being sent to Europe.

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01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:23.560
<v Speaker 2>I heard about them being sent to Venezuela and Chile.

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01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Did you hear anything about ballots being sent to Europe?

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01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:29.239
<v Speaker 2>Was it all to South America because dominions of South

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01:09:29.239 --> 01:09:30.479
<v Speaker 2>American company.

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01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what we heard.

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01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:32.560
<v Speaker 2>It was.

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01:09:34.119 --> 01:09:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Not there, And no, I think it's fucking weird how

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01:09:37.399 --> 01:09:39.920
<v Speaker 1>we would even have ballots going anywhere outside of the

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01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:44.840
<v Speaker 1>United fucking States, right like that? Is that strange? Or am? I?

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<v Speaker 2>Claire debunked that? And they claim that none of them

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01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:54.159
<v Speaker 2>actually went anywhere? Fuck eyewitness testimonies in first person accounts.

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<v Speaker 3>Never mind, that's not important.

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01:09:56.439 --> 01:10:00.439
<v Speaker 2>So Claire explains the initial strategy to literally blood the

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01:10:00.439 --> 01:10:03.479
<v Speaker 2>field with the true facts that demonstrated the falsity of

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01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:05.920
<v Speaker 2>the big lie the Dominion had rigged the election. He says,

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01:10:06.239 --> 01:10:08.960
<v Speaker 2>our initial mandate was nothing to do with litigation. It

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01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:10.800
<v Speaker 2>was to try to set up a good legal claim

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01:10:11.159 --> 01:10:13.560
<v Speaker 2>or to win a crazy dollar amount. It was how

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01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:17.279
<v Speaker 2>to how do we save the company from the defamation

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01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:21.960
<v Speaker 2>or defam falsehoods, whatever we could do to stop these outlets.

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<v Speaker 1>From broadcasting them.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the legal elements of the defamation is to

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01:10:25.399 --> 01:10:28.720
<v Speaker 2>be able to demonstrate that the speaker spoke the defamatory

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01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:32.359
<v Speaker 2>falsehoods with reckless disregard of the truth. Claire said, the

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01:10:32.399 --> 01:10:35.119
<v Speaker 2>initial hook that the media outlets would stop broadcasting falsehoods

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01:10:35.159 --> 01:10:37.600
<v Speaker 2>about Dominion prove short lived, so we had to move

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01:10:37.640 --> 01:10:40.359
<v Speaker 2>to a different phase of the engagement where we started

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01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:44.680
<v Speaker 2>looking at litigation more seriously. The repercussions got personal. One

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01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:47.039
<v Speaker 2>of the most gut wrenching things about the case was

1430
01:10:47.079 --> 01:10:49.880
<v Speaker 2>the people who saw and believed these falsehoods felt like

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01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Dominion workers had stolen their rights.

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01:10:52.119 --> 01:10:53.079
<v Speaker 3>Because they fucking did.

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01:10:53.720 --> 01:10:57.199
<v Speaker 2>This put Dominions people in a real sense of physical harm.

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01:10:57.520 --> 01:10:58.000
<v Speaker 1>He says.

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<v Speaker 2>They were receiving death threats and one at one point

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<v Speaker 2>a sniper showed up outside Dominion's office.

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01:11:04.760 --> 01:11:07.119
<v Speaker 3>I didn't even hear about that, but okay.

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01:11:07.159 --> 01:11:09.640
<v Speaker 2>The men and women of Dominions certainly knew that they

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01:11:09.800 --> 01:11:12.920
<v Speaker 2>had not done anything any of these things, but that's

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01:11:12.920 --> 01:11:14.960
<v Speaker 2>a very difficult thing to carry around when you can't

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01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:17.680
<v Speaker 2>go safely to church or to the store. On the

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01:11:17.720 --> 01:11:21.319
<v Speaker 2>brink of trial, Fox agreed to settle for seven hundred

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01:11:21.319 --> 01:11:24.560
<v Speaker 2>and eighty seven million dollars in damages and fees. What

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01:11:24.720 --> 01:11:28.199
<v Speaker 2>Dominion was, after, Claire says, was a very clear exposition

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01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:31.800
<v Speaker 2>that our democracy isn't tainted, isn't corrupted, and that there

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01:11:31.880 --> 01:11:35.680
<v Speaker 2>is a meaningful, trustworthy method of counting votes using Dominion machines.

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01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:36.640
<v Speaker 1>And we got that.

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01:11:37.039 --> 01:11:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Dominion has ongoing suits against two other cable media outlets,

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01:11:40.960 --> 01:11:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Oaan Network and Newsmax. Perhaps we've heard of those, and

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01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:47.319
<v Speaker 2>several media personalities, and Claire is.

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01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Involved in all of them. So just are all clear.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a quick little YouTube short, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>dude making fun of the whole thing, But this is

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<v Speaker 2>about how that defamation lawsuit took place. They didn't actually

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01:11:59.199 --> 01:12:03.920
<v Speaker 2>go to litigation because they started taking personal shots and

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<v Speaker 2>that's when Fox was basically like, okay, just how much

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01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:09.079
<v Speaker 2>do you want to shut the fuck up? Let's learn

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01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:13.560
<v Speaker 2>about this together, shall we. I'm gonna mute it because

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01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:14.840
<v Speaker 2>the piano is kind of crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>On this.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So Dominion Voting Systems is suing Fox News over

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01:12:19.399 --> 01:12:23.039
<v Speaker 2>false claims made about their voting machines by Trump allies

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<v Speaker 2>on air. Here's the latest, Dominion says fox News lawyers

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<v Speaker 2>with hailed information about co founder Rupert Murdoch and then

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01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:34.479
<v Speaker 2>the Minion lawyers, we were led to believe that Murdoch

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<v Speaker 2>was just an officer for Fox's parent company.

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<v Speaker 3>Fox newslawyers go, he is.

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01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:43.560
<v Speaker 2>The Minion lawyers are like, but Murdoch also holds an

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01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:46.960
<v Speaker 2>office title for Fox News, so he's not just the

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<v Speaker 2>officer on the board.

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<v Speaker 1>He holds a title.

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<v Speaker 2>The Minion lawyer has also said, so we're missing Murdoch

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01:12:51.159 --> 01:12:53.720
<v Speaker 2>related documents that we otherwise would.

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<v Speaker 3>Have asked for. The Fox News lawyers are kind of like,

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01:12:56.840 --> 01:12:57.239
<v Speaker 3>what the hell.

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<v Speaker 2>The judge is kind of like, hmm, I agree with that,

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01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:02.760
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not happy. Fox News lawyers are like, it's

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01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:05.520
<v Speaker 2>a title. It's an honorific title. Like he doesn't hold

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01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:07.920
<v Speaker 2>power over here. It's kind of like a silent owner

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01:13:08.039 --> 01:13:11.399
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing, so like what the hell. Meanwhile, Judge

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01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Davis is like, you have a credibility problem, fox News lawyers,

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01:13:16.159 --> 01:13:20.199
<v Speaker 2>And so that's basically it. Once it was understood that

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01:13:20.199 --> 01:13:22.720
<v Speaker 2>they had a credibility problem and that the Dominion lawyers

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01:13:22.720 --> 01:13:25.600
<v Speaker 2>had the judge in their side. They knew that this

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01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:28.000
<v Speaker 2>was gonna be an uphill battle, and that all the

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01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:30.359
<v Speaker 2>claims that they were gonna make, they were gonna already

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01:13:30.439 --> 01:13:32.840
<v Speaker 2>have to fight the fight of whether they are telling

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01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:36.800
<v Speaker 2>truths versus skeptical claims.

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<v Speaker 3>You see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Once it was understood that the lawyer was gonna

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01:13:40.239 --> 01:13:41.800
<v Speaker 2>side with Dominion and that they were gonna have an

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01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:44.039
<v Speaker 2>uphill battle, they decided to just go ahead and sign

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01:13:44.039 --> 01:13:47.359
<v Speaker 2>a check for seven hundred and eighty seven million dollars.

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01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:50.800
<v Speaker 2>And Tom Claire is the guy that made that happen.

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01:13:51.079 --> 01:13:53.079
<v Speaker 2>So let's hear from this one here. This is actually

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<v Speaker 2>right after the case was it was more than seven

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01:13:55.720 --> 01:13:58.199
<v Speaker 2>sixty seven or seven eighty seven or whatever, but that

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01:13:58.359 --> 01:14:00.520
<v Speaker 2>was after, you know, lawyer fees got taken out in

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01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:01.000
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's hear.

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<v Speaker 7>Moments ago, Fox and Dominion Voting Systems announced they had

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01:14:05.039 --> 01:14:07.439
<v Speaker 7>reached a settlement in the one point six billion dollar

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01:14:07.479 --> 01:14:09.960
<v Speaker 7>defamation lawsuit. The jury was seated and they were just

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01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:12.720
<v Speaker 7>about to get opening arguments started, and then Dominion came

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01:14:12.760 --> 01:14:14.800
<v Speaker 7>out and said the two had come to an agreement

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01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:17.039
<v Speaker 7>where Fox said it would pay seven hundred and eighty

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01:14:17.079 --> 01:14:20.039
<v Speaker 7>seven and a half million dollars and acknowledge they lied

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01:14:20.039 --> 01:14:23.000
<v Speaker 7>about things they said on air about Dominion, including that

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01:14:23.039 --> 01:14:25.760
<v Speaker 7>the voting machine maker ragged the twenty twenty presidential election

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01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:26.720
<v Speaker 7>and flipped votes.

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<v Speaker 5>Fox News, in response.

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<v Speaker 7>Released this statement, we are pleased to have reached a

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01:14:30.439 --> 01:14:33.680
<v Speaker 7>settlement of our dispute with Dominion Voting Systems. We acknowledged

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01:14:33.680 --> 01:14:37.199
<v Speaker 7>the court's rulings finding certain claims about Dominion to be false.

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01:14:37.640 --> 01:14:41.399
<v Speaker 7>This statement reflects fox continued commitment to the highest journalistic standards.

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01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:44.079
<v Speaker 7>We are hopeful that our decision to resolve this dispute

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01:14:44.079 --> 01:14:47.119
<v Speaker 7>with Dominion amicably instead of the acrimony of a divisive trial,

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01:14:47.279 --> 01:14:49.840
<v Speaker 7>allows the country to move forward from these issues outside

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01:14:49.880 --> 01:14:51.960
<v Speaker 7>the Delaware court House, where this trial was supposed to

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01:14:51.960 --> 01:14:54.520
<v Speaker 7>take place. Dominion's lawyer said this isn't over. Another voting

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01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:57.319
<v Speaker 7>machine company called Smartmatic is also sewing Fox for two

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01:14:57.439 --> 01:15:01.039
<v Speaker 7>point seven billion dollars with the same types of defamation claims.

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01:15:01.720 --> 01:15:06.560
<v Speaker 2>So again, Tom Claire is not exactly half Stepper or

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01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:11.159
<v Speaker 2>an unknown person in the realm of American defamation litigation.

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01:15:11.399 --> 01:15:14.600
<v Speaker 1>He's about getting that money, and that's what he was about.

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<v Speaker 1>What's funny is is that it's not going all the

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01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:20.520
<v Speaker 1>way to the end. You know, they're settling in the

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01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:23.920
<v Speaker 1>in the middle, like you know, they're they're basically seating.

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01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:26.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, Fox News was seeding. They didn't even decide

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01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:28.840
<v Speaker 1>to take it all the way because if they did

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01:15:28.920 --> 01:15:31.319
<v Speaker 1>decide to take it all the way and it would

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01:15:31.359 --> 01:15:32.840
<v Speaker 1>have went through and they would have lost, they would

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01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:34.439
<v Speaker 1>have lost a whole lot more money. So they ended

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01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:38.800
<v Speaker 1>up settling, right, and so it would only be legally

1535
01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:42.560
<v Speaker 1>correct for them to say, look, I would much rather

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01:15:42.640 --> 01:15:44.920
<v Speaker 1>lose seven hundred and eighty seven million dollars over what

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01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:50.000
<v Speaker 1>was it, like a fucking couple billion. It's like yeah, yeah.

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01:15:50.039 --> 01:15:52.800
<v Speaker 1>So maybe they didn't have all the proof that they

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01:15:52.840 --> 01:15:55.159
<v Speaker 1>claimed that they had not to say that they were

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01:15:55.159 --> 01:15:57.640
<v Speaker 1>spitting lies, but legally they had to say that they

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01:15:57.640 --> 01:16:01.159
<v Speaker 1>were spitting lies so that they could settle. And I

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01:16:01.159 --> 01:16:04.159
<v Speaker 1>almost wonder if if Kandace is going to be a

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01:16:04.199 --> 01:16:07.039
<v Speaker 1>pushover like that, because I can't imagine.

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01:16:08.319 --> 01:16:10.479
<v Speaker 3>Maybe, I mean, everybody has a price, right.

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01:16:10.560 --> 01:16:13.560
<v Speaker 2>I know people out there are gonna say, not Candace,

1546
01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:16.479
<v Speaker 2>she is all about the morality and letting.

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01:16:16.239 --> 01:16:18.760
<v Speaker 1>The truth get out there. She would never be bought.

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01:16:18.840 --> 01:16:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Listen, hey, homie, that is before somebody is waiving five

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01:16:23.880 --> 01:16:28.720
<v Speaker 2>hundred million green dollars in the face of Okay, Like, honestly.

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01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:31.319
<v Speaker 3>People can claim whatever they want.

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01:16:31.840 --> 01:16:34.119
<v Speaker 2>You don't know what you'd be willing to do unless

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01:16:34.199 --> 01:16:35.479
<v Speaker 2>that offer was made to you.

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01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:38.479
<v Speaker 1>Let's just be straight up. I mean, yeah, I mean

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01:16:38.560 --> 01:16:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I personally, I'm not a materialistic kind of person. You know,

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01:16:42.840 --> 01:16:46.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't need a big mansion. I am perfectly fine

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01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:48.960
<v Speaker 1>in a regular house with a regular yard and maybe

1557
01:16:48.960 --> 01:16:51.159
<v Speaker 1>a swing set in the back, you know what I'm saying.

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01:16:51.359 --> 01:16:53.239
<v Speaker 1>But I do know that there are a lot of

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01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:56.079
<v Speaker 1>people out there the moneyfucking talks and the bullshit walks,

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01:16:56.520 --> 01:17:00.479
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know. I would like to believe that

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01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Candice may have a little bit more integrity on this

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01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:06.359
<v Speaker 1>situation than what Fox News had. I would like to

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01:17:06.399 --> 01:17:08.880
<v Speaker 1>believe that. I'm not. Look, I'm I can't say that

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01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I've never spoken to her, you know, like I you

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01:17:12.039 --> 01:17:14.079
<v Speaker 1>don't know somebody whenever they're off camera.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, I agree with that.

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01:17:16.199 --> 01:17:19.560
<v Speaker 2>I just man and again not talking about the Charlie

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01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:24.039
<v Speaker 2>Kirk situation because that has shown serious cracks in her integrity.

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01:17:24.119 --> 01:17:26.800
<v Speaker 2>She has been caught in so many lies and falsehoods.

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01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:29.520
<v Speaker 2>The fact that she was right about text messages, that's

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01:17:29.560 --> 01:17:33.800
<v Speaker 2>a thing, absolutely a thing. But turning point, USA addressed

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01:17:33.800 --> 01:17:36.479
<v Speaker 2>those and talked about exactly what they were and who

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01:17:36.560 --> 01:17:38.680
<v Speaker 2>they were from and all of the things. So like

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01:17:39.079 --> 01:17:41.600
<v Speaker 2>her big claim that like that was the smoking gun,

1575
01:17:42.279 --> 01:17:44.319
<v Speaker 2>not as much as she made it out to be initially.

1576
01:17:44.760 --> 01:17:46.079
<v Speaker 3>There's other claims that she has.

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01:17:46.039 --> 01:17:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Made that she has been caught bold face lying, and

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01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:51.920
<v Speaker 2>now it's to a point to where her only source

1579
01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:55.600
<v Speaker 2>is trust me bro. But aside, that's after the Macrone conversation.

1580
01:17:55.680 --> 01:17:58.159
<v Speaker 2>The Macrone conversation has been happening for a year prior,

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01:17:58.600 --> 01:17:59.439
<v Speaker 2>so I don't know.

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01:17:59.640 --> 01:18:02.119
<v Speaker 1>I am with you. I hope that she has.

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01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:04.199
<v Speaker 2>More integrity than that, and that she is going to

1584
01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:06.520
<v Speaker 2>be making this much noise about the mccrons to the

1585
01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:09.800
<v Speaker 2>put tune of an eight part series about them, that

1586
01:18:09.920 --> 01:18:12.720
<v Speaker 2>she's gonna keep it ten toes down. But that being said,

1587
01:18:13.560 --> 01:18:18.840
<v Speaker 2>this might also hypothetically turn out very similar to the

1588
01:18:18.880 --> 01:18:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Alex Jones Sandy Hook situation, where they stick to the

1589
01:18:23.159 --> 01:18:25.560
<v Speaker 2>narrative all the way through and they know that what

1590
01:18:25.640 --> 01:18:28.000
<v Speaker 2>they are saying is factual, and they still end up

1591
01:18:28.039 --> 01:18:29.640
<v Speaker 2>having to make a giant payment settlement.

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01:18:31.079 --> 01:18:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that whole Sandy Hook situation with Alex

1593
01:18:34.800 --> 01:18:38.039
<v Speaker 1>Jones and all those millions of dollars that that billion

1594
01:18:38.119 --> 01:18:41.479
<v Speaker 1>dude or billion whatever it was. It's like, yeah, that

1595
01:18:41.560 --> 01:18:43.479
<v Speaker 1>kind of made me feel some type of way, especially

1596
01:18:43.479 --> 01:18:45.680
<v Speaker 1>whenever he's up and I know that you have to

1597
01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:48.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of speak out of the side of your face

1598
01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:51.479
<v Speaker 1>whenever you're in a court, right about how he's saying

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01:18:51.479 --> 01:18:54.720
<v Speaker 1>that it's for entertainment, and you know, I'm just an entertainer.

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01:18:54.800 --> 01:18:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a newscaster. And maybe that was just a

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01:18:57.720 --> 01:18:59.640
<v Speaker 1>legal thing that he had to do. Maybe he didn't

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01:18:59.680 --> 01:19:04.960
<v Speaker 1>actually believe that. Although I don't know, I think that,

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01:19:05.479 --> 01:19:07.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, and this is not to say that I

1604
01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:10.079
<v Speaker 1>think that Alex Jones has bought although I think that

1605
01:19:10.079 --> 01:19:12.960
<v Speaker 1>there's a chance. I think that there's a chance with

1606
01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:15.680
<v Speaker 1>all the bigger names like Tucker Crasson, like Candice Owns

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01:19:15.880 --> 01:19:16.399
<v Speaker 1>and so on.

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01:19:16.600 --> 01:19:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Right, Oh, Tucker Crasson, he's absolutely CIA connected, look at

1609
01:19:19.560 --> 01:19:20.000
<v Speaker 2>his dad.

1610
01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:22.079
<v Speaker 1>But the same thing with Sean Ryan. I feel the

1611
01:19:22.119 --> 01:19:22.520
<v Speaker 1>same way.

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01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Sean Ryan was a CIA liaison at one point, so

1613
01:19:25.920 --> 01:19:28.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that he is currently a FED, but

1614
01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:31.239
<v Speaker 2>I absolutely could understand why people would make that assumption.

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01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:33.079
<v Speaker 3>Like, I'm not trying to diwn that hill, but I

1616
01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:33.439
<v Speaker 3>get it.

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01:19:33.479 --> 01:19:36.439
<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is is that, you know, it's like

1618
01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:40.079
<v Speaker 1>they have to control all sides, and so you know,

1619
01:19:40.119 --> 01:19:42.039
<v Speaker 1>the people at the top, they have to control all

1620
01:19:42.039 --> 01:19:45.640
<v Speaker 1>the sides, and the people that are are getting behind

1621
01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:48.199
<v Speaker 1>some of these bigger names, those are the ones that

1622
01:19:48.279 --> 01:19:51.520
<v Speaker 1>are probably most likely to rage and kind of have

1623
01:19:51.640 --> 01:19:54.039
<v Speaker 1>the anarchy against the country. So you have to feed

1624
01:19:54.079 --> 01:19:57.000
<v Speaker 1>them a couple of more peanuts more than you would

1625
01:19:57.000 --> 01:19:59.159
<v Speaker 1>the masses, right, And I think that that's really how

1626
01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:02.279
<v Speaker 1>it works, is that they, you know, the the conspiracy

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01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:07.239
<v Speaker 1>the bigger conspiracy channels or ones that would be labeled

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01:20:07.239 --> 01:20:11.680
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy channels to left wingers or whatever. It's like, I

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01:20:11.680 --> 01:20:14.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know, man, I I I sleep with one eye

1630
01:20:14.880 --> 01:20:17.399
<v Speaker 1>open with that whole situation, like all of them, you know.

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01:20:17.479 --> 01:20:19.000
<v Speaker 1>And so I don't even want to sit here and

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01:20:19.039 --> 01:20:22.239
<v Speaker 1>say that I like, I'm a complete devout believer in

1633
01:20:22.319 --> 01:20:25.439
<v Speaker 1>candas owns I'm inclined to be, Like, I'm definitely inclined

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01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:28.279
<v Speaker 1>to belie. I I don't think that she's I don't

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01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't even want to say it,

1636
01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:34.600
<v Speaker 1>but like I want to believe that she's being truthful,

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01:20:34.680 --> 01:20:37.279
<v Speaker 1>and you know, the right way.

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01:20:37.119 --> 01:20:40.159
<v Speaker 2>There's but there's a way to say stuff while still

1639
01:20:40.199 --> 01:20:41.479
<v Speaker 2>covering your ass.

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01:20:41.840 --> 01:20:43.399
<v Speaker 3>Okay, it's a.

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01:20:43.439 --> 01:20:48.119
<v Speaker 2>It's a magic phrase which legally gives you indignity when

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01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:53.119
<v Speaker 2>you say it is my opinion that Brigitte Macron is

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01:20:53.279 --> 01:20:58.680
<v Speaker 2>a male that transitioned. Okay, you're not making a statement

1644
01:20:58.760 --> 01:21:02.640
<v Speaker 2>as a fact. You are giving your opinion about something.

1645
01:21:03.199 --> 01:21:06.079
<v Speaker 2>You won't be sue for defamation when it's your opinion,

1646
01:21:06.119 --> 01:21:08.359
<v Speaker 2>because everybody is entitled to their opinions.

1647
01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:12.359
<v Speaker 3>When you make declarative factual statements.

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01:21:12.239 --> 01:21:14.199
<v Speaker 2>That is when we get into the realm legally where

1649
01:21:14.239 --> 01:21:16.560
<v Speaker 2>they could bring defamation charges against you.

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01:21:17.359 --> 01:21:17.800
<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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01:21:17.880 --> 01:21:21.279
<v Speaker 2>If Alex Jones would have been saying, I believe that

1652
01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:24.319
<v Speaker 2>Sandy Hook was a hoax, it is my opinion that.

1653
01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:25.640
<v Speaker 1>These people are crisis actors.

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01:21:25.880 --> 01:21:28.680
<v Speaker 2>I believe that this and this and this, they would

1655
01:21:28.680 --> 01:21:30.800
<v Speaker 2>have had a harder time bringing him in for court.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that he was saying these things like they

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01:21:33.199 --> 01:21:36.920
<v Speaker 2>were facts is how he got fried. Canis Owens has

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01:21:37.000 --> 01:21:40.680
<v Speaker 2>been saying these things factually not opinion.

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01:21:40.239 --> 01:21:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Based, but that is the issue. Let's be real. I mean,

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01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:47.239
<v Speaker 1>we don't talk about it, you know, because people don't

1661
01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:49.560
<v Speaker 1>talk about it because they're afraid to get the Alex

1662
01:21:49.640 --> 01:21:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Jones treatment. But there was absolutely some fuckery with that

1663
01:21:52.760 --> 01:21:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Sandy Hook shit. Am I right?

1664
01:21:55.960 --> 01:21:58.279
<v Speaker 2>It's been a long time since I looked at it. Dude,

1665
01:21:59.199 --> 01:22:02.039
<v Speaker 2>the case up at the Super Bowl or whatever it was.

1666
01:22:02.279 --> 01:22:05.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like a whole like Challenger situation, you know about

1667
01:22:05.800 --> 01:22:08.680
<v Speaker 1>all all the NASA Challenger people died and then you

1668
01:22:08.720 --> 01:22:11.800
<v Speaker 1>find them they're like exactly the same, and like the

1669
01:22:12.119 --> 01:22:15.720
<v Speaker 1>narrative is, well, they just had twins. It's like, come on, man,

1670
01:22:15.840 --> 01:22:18.479
<v Speaker 1>like there's something into all this shit. By the way,

1671
01:22:18.800 --> 01:22:20.840
<v Speaker 1>can you stop sharing the screen for just one second.

1672
01:22:20.840 --> 01:22:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I want to show this picture, and this is the

1673
01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:27.159
<v Speaker 1>picture that I was originally trying to allude to. It

1674
01:22:27.239 --> 01:22:31.119
<v Speaker 1>is uh check out this now. This is a wow.

1675
01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Look at this face. Okay, tell me you can't see it. No, wait,

1676
01:22:38.239 --> 01:22:41.000
<v Speaker 1>that's the same picture, dude. I know that's Ai that

1677
01:22:41.119 --> 01:22:43.880
<v Speaker 1>changed the hair. No, I know, But what I'm saying is,

1678
01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:47.279
<v Speaker 1>if you're trying to imagine what she looks like without

1679
01:22:47.279 --> 01:22:49.520
<v Speaker 1>the makeup, without the wig. If it was a full

1680
01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:52.439
<v Speaker 1>on man, it makes more sense, like you can. I'm

1681
01:22:52.439 --> 01:22:54.439
<v Speaker 1>not saying that that's even a real picture, but what

1682
01:22:54.520 --> 01:22:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I am saying is like you could see it, Like

1683
01:22:57.800 --> 01:22:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've met people like that guy on

1684
01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:00.399
<v Speaker 1>the right.

1685
01:23:01.279 --> 01:23:03.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I know, she's a handsome broad like for sure.

1686
01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, anyway, just want to throw it out there and

1687
01:23:06.960 --> 01:23:11.560
<v Speaker 1>be like, yeah, that's probably who is uh getting pounded

1688
01:23:11.680 --> 01:23:14.560
<v Speaker 1>or pounding or maybe they switch rolls in the bedroom

1689
01:23:14.920 --> 01:23:17.880
<v Speaker 1>with the switch rolls I have. And that's the other

1690
01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:21.000
<v Speaker 1>thing too. I do I think that actually, I think

1691
01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:23.439
<v Speaker 1>Emmanuel is probably the bottom, especially if he's getting slapped

1692
01:23:23.479 --> 01:23:24.960
<v Speaker 1>in the face and pushed in the face like that

1693
01:23:25.079 --> 01:23:26.720
<v Speaker 1>and kind of bitching out, you know.

1694
01:23:27.079 --> 01:23:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, no, that's what I mean. Manuel is getting pounded.

1695
01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:34.319
<v Speaker 2>I think that old brigit be doing the pounding. She's

1696
01:23:34.359 --> 01:23:38.439
<v Speaker 2>the dumb But let's even say that the top whatever, Yeah,

1697
01:23:38.479 --> 01:23:41.640
<v Speaker 2>these terms, these phrases, but okay, anyway, let's say that

1698
01:23:41.640 --> 01:23:47.159
<v Speaker 2>that is accurate and that you know, let's say that

1699
01:23:47.239 --> 01:23:51.439
<v Speaker 2>she has gone through a transition, not just the hormone transition.

1700
01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:55.159
<v Speaker 2>Let's say she turned her AUTI into an any Surgically speaking,

1701
01:23:55.600 --> 01:24:01.199
<v Speaker 2>they're talking about providing photo evidence and scientific evidence. Now

1702
01:24:01.239 --> 01:24:03.800
<v Speaker 2>we get into this kind of a situation where it's like, Okay,

1703
01:24:03.840 --> 01:24:06.439
<v Speaker 2>you sent me a picture of yourg age, okay, and

1704
01:24:06.479 --> 01:24:09.319
<v Speaker 2>you're sent me blood results showing your estrogen levels.

1705
01:24:10.039 --> 01:24:11.199
<v Speaker 1>This is twenty twenty five.

1706
01:24:11.760 --> 01:24:14.680
<v Speaker 2>That is not gonna be enough, because you could hormone

1707
01:24:14.720 --> 01:24:18.159
<v Speaker 2>infuse yourself so heavily to where doctors at the Olympics

1708
01:24:18.199 --> 01:24:20.920
<v Speaker 2>will classify this human being as a woman even though

1709
01:24:20.920 --> 01:24:23.600
<v Speaker 2>they still have a balls and a dick attached to them. Right,

1710
01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:26.359
<v Speaker 2>So the blood test outright, as far as hormones goes

1711
01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:29.159
<v Speaker 2>can't trust it. Let's say you send in a picture

1712
01:24:29.159 --> 01:24:31.479
<v Speaker 2>of a vagina, how do we know that's not a

1713
01:24:31.479 --> 01:24:34.520
<v Speaker 2>post stop by a fucking artist of a surgeon. Okay,

1714
01:24:34.560 --> 01:24:37.680
<v Speaker 2>this is absolutely a thing. They're gonna have to do

1715
01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:40.439
<v Speaker 2>DNA testing, not just a blood test to where they're

1716
01:24:40.439 --> 01:24:42.800
<v Speaker 2>looking for hormone levels. It's gonna have to be a

1717
01:24:42.880 --> 01:24:46.760
<v Speaker 2>DNA test and or an X ray. If she has

1718
01:24:46.800 --> 01:24:50.239
<v Speaker 2>fallopian tubes, then we know it's a female. If she

1719
01:24:50.319 --> 01:24:52.279
<v Speaker 2>does not, then we know that it's a male.

1720
01:24:52.640 --> 01:24:56.319
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to see some chromosome type shit here, bro.

1721
01:24:56.319 --> 01:24:59.359
<v Speaker 2>They do these tests a lot, and it's not for

1722
01:24:59.399 --> 01:25:03.119
<v Speaker 2>the same reason. But like they do X rays millions

1723
01:25:03.119 --> 01:25:06.600
<v Speaker 2>of times a day, every single day around the world.

1724
01:25:06.640 --> 01:25:09.359
<v Speaker 2>That's not like a crazy thing to ask for. And

1725
01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:12.039
<v Speaker 2>since we can't test blood anymore, yeah, you could pull

1726
01:25:12.079 --> 01:25:14.399
<v Speaker 2>like DNA testing, sure, and they would be able to

1727
01:25:14.439 --> 01:25:16.920
<v Speaker 2>tell you if this has the double X or x

1728
01:25:17.079 --> 01:25:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Y chromosomes attached. Like, for sure, that is a thing,

1729
01:25:20.119 --> 01:25:23.000
<v Speaker 2>but it is not like a super evasive and super

1730
01:25:23.079 --> 01:25:25.359
<v Speaker 2>embarrassing and like, oh my god, I can't believe I

1731
01:25:25.399 --> 01:25:28.079
<v Speaker 2>have to do this if you've already been fighting these

1732
01:25:28.119 --> 01:25:32.880
<v Speaker 2>claims for years from YouTubers and content creators and whatever else,

1733
01:25:33.159 --> 01:25:35.600
<v Speaker 2>at this point, I'm surprised you don't have a DNA

1734
01:25:35.680 --> 01:25:38.399
<v Speaker 2>test forged ready to go on standby.

1735
01:25:39.079 --> 01:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>So I always get those confused between the double X

1736
01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:44.960
<v Speaker 1>versus the xy. The double X is the female, the

1737
01:25:45.159 --> 01:25:47.079
<v Speaker 1>x y is the male. So if there is a

1738
01:25:47.319 --> 01:25:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Y chromosome in uh Brigitte, then uh that's a man man.

1739
01:25:54.159 --> 01:25:57.239
<v Speaker 2>That's it. It's such a simple test to do. And

1740
01:25:58.239 --> 01:26:00.640
<v Speaker 2>again we're talking about the French president. Yeah, look, we

1741
01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:02.840
<v Speaker 2>think that they don't have the ability to forge a

1742
01:26:02.960 --> 01:26:05.439
<v Speaker 2>document at this point, but that's also why it has

1743
01:26:05.439 --> 01:26:07.479
<v Speaker 2>to be done by an American doctor since it's being

1744
01:26:07.520 --> 01:26:09.600
<v Speaker 2>done in an American court, because we can't trust the

1745
01:26:09.600 --> 01:26:10.359
<v Speaker 2>French doctors.

1746
01:26:10.520 --> 01:26:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't need to see your muff brigid because geraltle

1747
01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>mutilation is a thing. And you know, if you ever

1748
01:26:17.039 --> 01:26:19.359
<v Speaker 1>see like that, how they do that whole process. Whenever

1749
01:26:19.359 --> 01:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>a man's trying to convert to a woman, they basically

1750
01:26:21.840 --> 01:26:24.359
<v Speaker 1>like they chop down the dick and they use the

1751
01:26:24.720 --> 01:26:27.920
<v Speaker 1>head of the dick as the clit. Now, right, it's

1752
01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:29.479
<v Speaker 1>a weird thing. It depends on the doctor.

1753
01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:32.359
<v Speaker 2>Some of them can't do that because the head of

1754
01:26:32.399 --> 01:26:36.119
<v Speaker 2>a dick is typically larger than a clit, so like

1755
01:26:36.159 --> 01:26:37.520
<v Speaker 2>you might be able to use a portion of it,

1756
01:26:37.560 --> 01:26:39.880
<v Speaker 2>but then you're suffering a lot of nerd nerve damage

1757
01:26:40.159 --> 01:26:42.880
<v Speaker 2>after the operation. But if nothing else, just to turn

1758
01:26:42.920 --> 01:26:45.399
<v Speaker 2>the audi into a any yeah, they like slit down it,

1759
01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:48.319
<v Speaker 2>roll it inward, and like sew it up and form

1760
01:26:48.359 --> 01:26:48.840
<v Speaker 2>it up to.

1761
01:26:48.840 --> 01:26:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Be a very shallow vagina.

1762
01:26:50.920 --> 01:26:53.159
<v Speaker 2>And then even still they have like a period ish

1763
01:26:53.239 --> 01:26:55.479
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing that happens, which is actually more or

1764
01:26:55.520 --> 01:26:58.039
<v Speaker 2>less like a bloody discharge because you just disfigured and

1765
01:26:58.199 --> 01:27:01.399
<v Speaker 2>mutilated your body, and like every so often it's just

1766
01:27:01.439 --> 01:27:03.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna ooze blood and like that's just what it is.

1767
01:27:03.960 --> 01:27:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Like it happen on my period. It's like, no, Jeff,

1768
01:27:06.279 --> 01:27:08.760
<v Speaker 2>you're not. Your body's mad at you for doing this

1769
01:27:08.800 --> 01:27:10.039
<v Speaker 2>to it. Like what are you talking about?

1770
01:27:10.239 --> 01:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Hey, yeah, I was about to say, I don't know.

1771
01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I've I've seen some squid word noses in my day,

1772
01:27:14.920 --> 01:27:19.880
<v Speaker 1>if you know what I mean. So you're gonna turn

1773
01:27:19.920 --> 01:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>a squid word into it.

1774
01:27:21.119 --> 01:27:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know if there's even a SpongeBob comparison

1775
01:27:24.399 --> 01:27:24.920
<v Speaker 2>on that one.

1776
01:27:25.119 --> 01:27:29.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying there's like there's I'm not gonna get

1777
01:27:29.199 --> 01:27:33.359
<v Speaker 1>too descriptive here, but for those that know, no, yeah,

1778
01:27:33.520 --> 01:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>it's uh, they're called they're called LP's in the community. LP's. Yeah.

1779
01:27:39.880 --> 01:27:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Like if you have like a large clit, it's known

1780
01:27:41.800 --> 01:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>as an L So like a large it's like a

1781
01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:45.439
<v Speaker 1>little penis is what they call it.

1782
01:27:46.239 --> 01:27:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Got you okay, okay, Yeah, it's this is a weird

1783
01:27:51.760 --> 01:27:54.359
<v Speaker 2>time to be alive twenty twenty five. I don't think

1784
01:27:54.399 --> 01:27:56.800
<v Speaker 2>anybody had on their bingo cards. Like if you were

1785
01:27:56.840 --> 01:27:59.119
<v Speaker 2>to tell me twenty years ago that this would be

1786
01:27:59.159 --> 01:28:02.560
<v Speaker 2>the conversation that would be in the Zeigeist on National News.

1787
01:28:03.199 --> 01:28:05.159
<v Speaker 3>I would have looked at you like you were crazy.

1788
01:28:04.880 --> 01:28:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Like what went wrong to where we're having to talk

1789
01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:12.760
<v Speaker 2>about the first Lady of France popping her pussy in

1790
01:28:12.840 --> 01:28:18.239
<v Speaker 2>a courtroom in Delaware? To to slander a content creator

1791
01:28:18.479 --> 01:28:19.159
<v Speaker 2>on YouTube?

1792
01:28:19.159 --> 01:28:20.880
<v Speaker 3>What what the fuck are you talking about?

1793
01:28:20.920 --> 01:28:24.439
<v Speaker 1>Bro? But that is absolutely where we have found ourselves. Yeah,

1794
01:28:24.479 --> 01:28:28.039
<v Speaker 1>it's a weird place, but you know what, I found

1795
01:28:28.039 --> 01:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>it interesting about how he's even he's even admitting that

1796
01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:35.079
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a public court situation and what

1797
01:28:35.159 --> 01:28:38.319
<v Speaker 1>was it just almost well, it's like two and a half,

1798
01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:41.119
<v Speaker 1>like three years ago now with the whole Johnny Depp

1799
01:28:41.119 --> 01:28:44.159
<v Speaker 1>and Amber heard thing right, and look at the circus

1800
01:28:44.159 --> 01:28:47.119
<v Speaker 1>that that created. So I think that this is going

1801
01:28:47.159 --> 01:28:48.439
<v Speaker 1>to be such a This is gonna be like a

1802
01:28:48.479 --> 01:28:52.399
<v Speaker 1>fucking OJ spectacle, bro. Like, for sure, they're gonna they're

1803
01:28:52.399 --> 01:28:54.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna try and milk it for everything that it's worth.

1804
01:28:54.880 --> 01:28:59.840
<v Speaker 2>And in my public opinion, fucking matters, dude.

1805
01:28:59.640 --> 01:29:03.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh dude. In my opinion, I think that this is

1806
01:29:03.159 --> 01:29:05.560
<v Speaker 1>going to get drawn out even longer than it needs

1807
01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:09.039
<v Speaker 1>to because and this is what they're gonna do, Like,

1808
01:29:09.520 --> 01:29:13.640
<v Speaker 1>mark my words, something big is going to be happening

1809
01:29:13.760 --> 01:29:16.640
<v Speaker 1>whenever this whole circus is going on, and people are

1810
01:29:16.680 --> 01:29:19.319
<v Speaker 1>going to be more paying more attention to this than

1811
01:29:19.359 --> 01:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>whatever that other huge thing is. Like, I don't know

1812
01:29:22.840 --> 01:29:25.479
<v Speaker 1>what it is. Maybe it's an alien invasion, Maybe the

1813
01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Epstein files come out, maybe it's something it's gonna be

1814
01:29:28.880 --> 01:29:32.359
<v Speaker 1>another fucking COVID or something crazy is going to come out.

1815
01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:35.119
<v Speaker 1>War going on, and this is going to be the

1816
01:29:35.199 --> 01:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>thing that pacifies the people to not look into that,

1817
01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:41.479
<v Speaker 1>because if you think about it, more people were I mean, dude,

1818
01:29:41.880 --> 01:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>especially with that whole Johnny Depp situation with Amber heard

1819
01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>like that was happening during COVID, you know, like and

1820
01:29:49.920 --> 01:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people had eyes on it. I mean it.

1821
01:29:51.960 --> 01:29:54.399
<v Speaker 1>It was live on TikTok, it was live on Instagram,

1822
01:29:54.479 --> 01:29:57.239
<v Speaker 1>it was live on YouTube. People were streaming it and

1823
01:29:57.800 --> 01:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>talking over it. And I'm just I'm saying, be on

1824
01:30:01.039 --> 01:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the lookout for that. This is a false flag situation.

1825
01:30:04.800 --> 01:30:07.239
<v Speaker 2>I could see one brewing. I'm gonna be honest with you,

1826
01:30:07.279 --> 01:30:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know what it's gonna be. Is it

1827
01:30:08.960 --> 01:30:14.359
<v Speaker 2>gonna be something in the cultural circus, the geopolitical circus,

1828
01:30:14.359 --> 01:30:18.039
<v Speaker 2>war aliens. I absolutely agree with you though that watch

1829
01:30:18.159 --> 01:30:19.800
<v Speaker 2>as soon as it gets to a point to where

1830
01:30:19.800 --> 01:30:23.199
<v Speaker 2>they are about to make a judgment where it could

1831
01:30:23.199 --> 01:30:25.560
<v Speaker 2>go one of two ways, right, either a Brigitte comes

1832
01:30:25.560 --> 01:30:27.840
<v Speaker 2>out as a man or b they decide on an

1833
01:30:27.880 --> 01:30:30.479
<v Speaker 2>amount that Canis OANs has to pay them. Right, it's

1834
01:30:30.520 --> 01:30:33.119
<v Speaker 2>gonna be all over the news. Every news agency's gonna

1835
01:30:33.119 --> 01:30:35.239
<v Speaker 2>be talking about it. Bo bop bop out of nowhere,

1836
01:30:35.640 --> 01:30:38.600
<v Speaker 2>look at this thing going on. Meanwhile, like Canis Owns

1837
01:30:38.640 --> 01:30:40.079
<v Speaker 2>just signs a check for a lot of money and

1838
01:30:40.119 --> 01:30:42.279
<v Speaker 2>just passes it to them, and nobody talks about it again,

1839
01:30:42.520 --> 01:30:44.319
<v Speaker 2>and she just moves on to the next topic on

1840
01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:47.119
<v Speaker 2>her podcast and just like never brings it up again.

1841
01:30:47.560 --> 01:30:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Or my people are just lost, or Brigitte just like

1842
01:30:51.439 --> 01:30:54.119
<v Speaker 2>slowly and lowly comes out like yeah, by the way.

1843
01:30:54.000 --> 01:30:55.119
<v Speaker 1>My name's Jean.

1844
01:30:55.960 --> 01:30:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Brigitte is actually Jean, and I'm just gonna go back

1845
01:30:58.760 --> 01:31:01.439
<v Speaker 2>to France with my husband, and like nobody talks about

1846
01:31:01.479 --> 01:31:03.600
<v Speaker 2>it again because there's other more important shit to talk about.

1847
01:31:03.760 --> 01:31:05.560
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. Like, if it does get to

1848
01:31:05.600 --> 01:31:10.079
<v Speaker 1>that second option, where it is it is factually correct

1849
01:31:10.399 --> 01:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>that Brigitte is Jean Michel, Like if it is if

1850
01:31:15.560 --> 01:31:18.359
<v Speaker 1>that is known to be a thing. Then what you'll

1851
01:31:18.359 --> 01:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>start to And I'm telling you, I don't even have

1852
01:31:20.000 --> 01:31:22.319
<v Speaker 1>a fucking palante your crystal ball right now, but I

1853
01:31:22.359 --> 01:31:25.439
<v Speaker 1>can see it happening already. What's going to happen is

1854
01:31:25.439 --> 01:31:29.399
<v Speaker 1>is that people are gonna say, see, it's okay, it's okay,

1855
01:31:29.560 --> 01:31:32.600
<v Speaker 1>we we we don't care if you're a transgender. And

1856
01:31:32.680 --> 01:31:35.319
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna get the ball rolling even more for more

1857
01:31:35.399 --> 01:31:38.439
<v Speaker 1>transgenders to start happening, and it's gonna start becoming more

1858
01:31:38.560 --> 01:31:41.319
<v Speaker 1>and more accepted. Not that we see, No, Big MIC's

1859
01:31:41.359 --> 01:31:45.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna come out and next thing you know, Jean Michel

1860
01:31:46.279 --> 01:31:49.119
<v Speaker 1>is going to be doing a lot of drag queens storytime, bro,

1861
01:31:49.560 --> 01:31:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Like just watch watch I can see it already.

1862
01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:53.560
<v Speaker 3>Or there's a third option.

1863
01:31:54.000 --> 01:31:56.640
<v Speaker 2>There is in fact a third option good cult members

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<v Speaker 2>that possibly the same way that happened in France twice.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the time comes for the gabbled.

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01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:05.760
<v Speaker 2>As slam and for justice to be served, and out

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01:32:05.760 --> 01:32:09.159
<v Speaker 2>of nowhere, they're just kind of acquitting of all charges

1868
01:32:09.279 --> 01:32:11.319
<v Speaker 2>and just kind of mistrialing it and just kind of

1869
01:32:11.319 --> 01:32:14.199
<v Speaker 2>moving on and nothing ever gets confirmed or denied, nobody

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01:32:14.199 --> 01:32:16.039
<v Speaker 2>ever has to pay out a certain amount, and everybody

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01:32:16.119 --> 01:32:18.760
<v Speaker 2>just goes home and nobody talks about it anymore. That's

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01:32:18.800 --> 01:32:19.640
<v Speaker 2>also a third.

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01:32:19.479 --> 01:32:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Option, and uh, Gilain Maxwell dies while people are waiting

1874
01:32:25.239 --> 01:32:27.119
<v Speaker 1>on this verdict. I could see that.

1875
01:32:27.680 --> 01:32:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I could absolutely see that being the thing. It gets

1876
01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:33.000
<v Speaker 2>everybody's attention over there. But France is not gonna forget

1877
01:32:33.039 --> 01:32:35.880
<v Speaker 2>about this shit, d which I mean again, what's France

1878
01:32:35.960 --> 01:32:36.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna do to us?

1879
01:32:36.920 --> 01:32:37.399
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

1880
01:32:37.439 --> 01:32:41.359
<v Speaker 1>But it's yeah, it's wild thing. Either either Giselaine is

1881
01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>going to die or the group of women that are

1882
01:32:44.960 --> 01:32:48.119
<v Speaker 1>saying that, Like, dude, this is real. We have all

1883
01:32:48.119 --> 01:32:50.720
<v Speaker 1>the evidence. We're waiting for the political system and the

1884
01:32:50.880 --> 01:32:53.319
<v Speaker 1>justice justice system to do their part so that we

1885
01:32:53.399 --> 01:32:56.399
<v Speaker 1>don't have to. I would not be shocked if we

1886
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<v Speaker 1>start calling out some of those names in the obituaries. Yeah,

1887
01:33:02.720 --> 01:33:06.039
<v Speaker 1>you're right. So I'm just I'm just saying, you know,

1888
01:33:06.119 --> 01:33:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I could be crazy, but I believe this is the

1889
01:33:08.279 --> 01:33:11.079
<v Speaker 1>third eye open conversation. I'm with you.

1890
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not negating the possibility of any of these options.

1891
01:33:14.479 --> 01:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, they all have a possibility at this time. Now,

1892
01:33:17.880 --> 01:33:19.720
<v Speaker 1>this being said, getting back.

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<v Speaker 2>To the Clayre Locke Attorneys at law firm.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>When the dominion case came out and they did win it.

1896
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<v Speaker 3>It actually tore their law firm apart.

1897
01:33:34.079 --> 01:33:38.199
<v Speaker 2>A lot of upper echelon lawyers left the firm because

1898
01:33:38.239 --> 01:33:40.520
<v Speaker 2>they realized that, like, yo, if this is how y'all

1899
01:33:40.560 --> 01:33:42.159
<v Speaker 2>are going to be getting down on doing these high

1900
01:33:42.159 --> 01:33:46.760
<v Speaker 2>profile defamation cases where it's fuck shit start to finish, Like,

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01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:47.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying.

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01:33:47.239 --> 01:33:48.640
<v Speaker 1>To be an actual lawyer here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to be associated with this dog and

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01:33:51.000 --> 01:33:53.279
<v Speaker 2>pony show in media circus, So like what the fuck?

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01:33:53.680 --> 01:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, there was a New York Times article that

1907
01:33:55.960 --> 01:33:58.439
<v Speaker 2>was posted on this and as I tried pulling it up,

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01:33:58.439 --> 01:34:00.920
<v Speaker 2>it kept asking me to pay for it. But what

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01:34:01.039 --> 01:34:04.319
<v Speaker 2>I could see, actually, this reddit article or Reddit thread,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you could say, is like pretty much word

1911
01:34:06.600 --> 01:34:08.760
<v Speaker 2>for word what the New York's Times was talking about,

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01:34:08.800 --> 01:34:11.880
<v Speaker 2>and it breaks down how and why the Claire Luck

1913
01:34:12.880 --> 01:34:14.920
<v Speaker 2>law firm got torn apart after it.

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<v Speaker 3>If we want to get into this one, sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Last April, dozens of lawyers and their guests gathered at

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<v Speaker 1>the Columbus Inn in Wilmington, Delaware, the Revered restaurant with

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01:34:25.039 --> 01:34:28.479
<v Speaker 1>is it revered? Yeah? Restaurant with roots tracing back more

1918
01:34:28.520 --> 01:34:31.920
<v Speaker 1>than two centuries was once a hangout for Buffalo bill

1919
01:34:32.119 --> 01:34:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh shout out. Yet on this cloudless night, the crowd

1920
01:34:38.279 --> 01:34:42.159
<v Speaker 1>would have been happy to be partying almost anywhere. Hours earlier,

1921
01:34:42.199 --> 01:34:45.359
<v Speaker 1>the lawyers and their client, Dominion Voting Systems, had negotiated

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01:34:45.399 --> 01:34:48.439
<v Speaker 1>an extraordinary seven hundred and eighty seven million dollar settlement

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01:34:48.439 --> 01:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>with Fox News. The deal was struck moments before opening

1924
01:34:51.640 --> 01:34:55.319
<v Speaker 1>arguments in a hotly anticipated defamation trial in which Fox

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01:34:55.399 --> 01:34:59.680
<v Speaker 1>was accused of airing inflammatory lies that Dominion had thwarted

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01:34:59.680 --> 01:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Donald Jay Trump in the twenty twenty presidential election.

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01:35:03.079 --> 01:35:07.039
<v Speaker 2>Now the company for the opening arguments, Dude, before they

1928
01:35:07.159 --> 01:35:10.520
<v Speaker 2>even really got cooking, they had already thrown their credibility out,

1929
01:35:10.560 --> 01:35:12.520
<v Speaker 2>and they realized, like, fuck, we're not gonna waste their

1930
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<v Speaker 2>buy his time here.

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01:35:13.159 --> 01:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>We know we already lost this bitch. White Flags, White Flags. Yep.

1932
01:35:17.840 --> 01:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>So now the company's two main law firms could enjoy

1933
01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:24.640
<v Speaker 1>the spoils. Susman Godfree would pocket a thick slice of

1934
01:35:24.680 --> 01:35:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the settlement that Fox had just wired over. Claire Locke,

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01:35:27.600 --> 01:35:30.439
<v Speaker 1>a smaller firm that specializes in the niche field of

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01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>defamation law, wouldn't get a cut of this settlement. But

1937
01:35:33.680 --> 01:35:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Dominion had already paid it millions of dollars in fees,

1938
01:35:36.760 --> 01:35:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and the victory offered the firm the potential for something

1939
01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:43.640
<v Speaker 1>even greater. Run by the husband and wife team of

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01:35:43.680 --> 01:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Tom Claire and Libby Locke, the firm had helped popularize

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01:35:47.640 --> 01:35:51.199
<v Speaker 1>efforts by wealthy and powerful clients to attack news organizations

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01:35:51.439 --> 01:35:56.279
<v Speaker 1>and delegitimize or kill unfavorable articles. Miss Locke in particular,

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01:35:56.399 --> 01:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>had taken to publicly arguing that much of the news

1944
01:35:59.640 --> 01:36:03.680
<v Speaker 1>media was unethical, though she also voiced support for free speech.

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01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:07.680
<v Speaker 1>The triumph against Fox gave the firm's founders an opportunity

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01:36:07.720 --> 01:36:10.439
<v Speaker 1>to widen their appeal. They could argue that Claire Locke

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<v Speaker 1>was not an enemy of the free press or the

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01:36:12.439 --> 01:36:15.760
<v Speaker 1>First Amendment, but a champion of truth and a guardian

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01:36:15.840 --> 01:36:19.760
<v Speaker 1>of democracy. I love when they used that. At the

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01:36:19.800 --> 01:36:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Columbus end, the exhausted but jubilant lawyers drank and toasted

1951
01:36:24.359 --> 01:36:27.880
<v Speaker 1>one another, laid into the evening. Celebrating tonight. Miss Locke

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01:36:27.880 --> 01:36:30.720
<v Speaker 1>wrote in an email at ten fifty five pm, she added,

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01:36:31.039 --> 01:36:33.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a bit crazy here on our end. It was

1954
01:36:33.640 --> 01:36:38.239
<v Speaker 1>even crazier than she realized. The case had made legal history,

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01:36:38.520 --> 01:36:43.199
<v Speaker 1>but it also tore apart the firm. Friction among lawyers

1956
01:36:43.199 --> 01:36:45.399
<v Speaker 1>at Claire Locke had been building for years, and much

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01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:50.119
<v Speaker 1>of it centered on Miss Locke. Her colleagues chafed at

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01:36:50.159 --> 01:36:53.399
<v Speaker 1>her management style. Some feared that her public embrace of

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01:36:53.439 --> 01:36:57.680
<v Speaker 1>conservative causes, including on Fox News, was alienating clients.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, so essentially the half of the lawyers that worked

1961
01:37:02.520 --> 01:37:06.119
<v Speaker 2>there quit as soon as they won their biggest and.

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01:37:06.079 --> 01:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Most notable case ever.

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<v Speaker 2>They were just like, all right, you know, we're just

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01:37:11.840 --> 01:37:13.479
<v Speaker 2>we're not gonna play this game. We can see the

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01:37:13.520 --> 01:37:15.600
<v Speaker 2>writing on the walls of where y'all are headed, and

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<v Speaker 2>we want no part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. Let's get over here to newsweek fact check.

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<v Speaker 2>Do Brigerit Macrone's tax records show her with a male name?

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01:37:26.479 --> 01:37:28.359
<v Speaker 2>This is a claim that has been made this week,

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01:37:28.840 --> 01:37:32.000
<v Speaker 2>and apparently there's a little more to the story than

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01:37:32.039 --> 01:37:33.760
<v Speaker 2>what initially meets the eye.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get into this one together here. Oh boy,

1973
01:37:38.119 --> 01:37:42.199
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, there are multiple social media posts saying that

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01:37:42.279 --> 01:37:45.079
<v Speaker 1>France's first lady, Brigitte Macrone is listed under a male

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01:37:45.199 --> 01:37:48.039
<v Speaker 1>name and official French government records. It comes amid long

1976
01:37:48.039 --> 01:37:51.279
<v Speaker 1>standing Internet rumors the Macrome was born male and transitioned

1977
01:37:51.319 --> 01:37:54.039
<v Speaker 1>later in life, adopting the name Brigitte, which she and

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01:37:54.079 --> 01:37:58.119
<v Speaker 1>her husband have repeatedly denied. The viral allegations originating from

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01:37:58.199 --> 01:38:02.680
<v Speaker 1>fringe French commentators and amplified by a conservative commentator Candice Owens,

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01:38:02.800 --> 01:38:06.319
<v Speaker 1>claiming Macrone's real name is Jean Michelle troug No, who

1981
01:38:06.359 --> 01:38:11.479
<v Speaker 1>is in fact Macrone's brother. It's pretty fucked up the claim,

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01:38:11.760 --> 01:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>which I mean, I would imagine that whole you know,

1983
01:38:15.359 --> 01:38:18.159
<v Speaker 1>the hands of the face gesture on the plane. You

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01:38:18.199 --> 01:38:21.319
<v Speaker 1>could probably check that up to brotherly love, Am I right?

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01:38:21.960 --> 01:38:26.079
<v Speaker 1>Brothers giving each other a hard time? Yeah, dude, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So the claim was posted by an account called the

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01:38:30.119 --> 01:38:34.720
<v Speaker 1>General at General MCN news or mc news, who said

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01:38:35.119 --> 01:38:39.279
<v Speaker 1>breaking French President Emmanuel Macrone's wife, brigitde Macrone discovered that

1989
01:38:39.399 --> 01:38:42.560
<v Speaker 1>her tax account on France's official government website listeder as

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01:38:42.600 --> 01:38:45.880
<v Speaker 1>male under the name of Jean Michelle. This post went viral,

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01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:48.880
<v Speaker 1>with more than eight million views as of Monday. Let's

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01:38:48.920 --> 01:38:55.199
<v Speaker 1>go dude, she discovered it or she acknowledged. Owen shared

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01:38:55.239 --> 01:38:58.680
<v Speaker 1>this post and at least one other like it from

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01:38:58.840 --> 01:39:02.439
<v Speaker 1>a different account. Owens told Newsweek in a statement in quotes,

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01:39:02.600 --> 01:39:05.880
<v Speaker 1>it really is time for Brigitte Macrone to tell the truth.

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01:39:05.960 --> 01:39:08.479
<v Speaker 1>She was born a male. The entire world knows, and

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01:39:08.680 --> 01:39:11.199
<v Speaker 1>it is now painful to watch this couple continue to

1998
01:39:11.239 --> 01:39:13.840
<v Speaker 1>twist the fabric of the truth. She was not hacked,

1999
01:39:13.960 --> 01:39:16.720
<v Speaker 1>which is why no one has been arrested for such hacking.

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<v Speaker 1>She simply is, or rather was, Jean Michelle. That is

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01:39:20.840 --> 01:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>a good point. That being said, there have been some arrests. Actually,

2002
01:39:26.720 --> 01:39:30.319
<v Speaker 1>let's continue. Tom Claire, lawyer for the Macrones, previously told

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01:39:30.319 --> 01:39:33.600
<v Speaker 1>the BBC about quotes expert testimony that will come out

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01:39:33.680 --> 01:39:36.800
<v Speaker 1>that will be scientific in nature, which would show in

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01:39:36.920 --> 01:39:43.560
<v Speaker 1>quotes both generically or said yeah, generically, okay, generically and

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01:39:43.680 --> 01:39:48.239
<v Speaker 1>specifically that the allegations are false. Newsweek has contacted Pelais

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01:39:48.239 --> 01:39:50.800
<v Speaker 1>del Elisi via email for comment.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so let's get into it. Here's the facts

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01:39:54.920 --> 01:39:57.760
<v Speaker 2>surrounding it again. This is as a time recording, very

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01:39:57.800 --> 01:39:59.760
<v Speaker 2>subject to change more information comes out.

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<v Speaker 1>French authorities have said that the name Jean Michelle did

2012
01:40:03.439 --> 01:40:06.119
<v Speaker 1>appear on Macrone's personal tax account, but not as a

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01:40:06.159 --> 01:40:09.159
<v Speaker 1>result of any official documentation, because her account had been

2014
01:40:09.199 --> 01:40:13.640
<v Speaker 1>hacked and altered by outside actors. Tristan brom Bromet, I'm guessing.

2015
01:40:14.479 --> 01:40:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Macrone's chief of staff told French broadcaster BFMTV that they

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01:40:20.600 --> 01:40:24.079
<v Speaker 1>were completely surprised to find the name changed to Jean

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01:40:24.159 --> 01:40:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Michelle known as Brigitte Macrone in a section on the

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01:40:27.039 --> 01:40:31.880
<v Speaker 1>tax portal meant to be uneditable. Oh interesting. The French

2019
01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:34.920
<v Speaker 1>First Lady has filed a criminal complaint. Multiple French outlets

2020
01:40:34.920 --> 01:40:38.279
<v Speaker 1>have reported, including TV mag, and two individuals have been

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01:40:38.279 --> 01:40:42.640
<v Speaker 1>identified all right. The hack profile feeds into a broader,

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01:40:42.760 --> 01:40:46.319
<v Speaker 1>long running conspiracy theory, one that has been consistently denied

2023
01:40:46.319 --> 01:40:49.720
<v Speaker 1>by the Macrones. Earlier this year, President Immanuel Macrone and

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01:40:49.760 --> 01:40:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Burgitte Macrone filed a US defamation lawsuit against Candice Owans,

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01:40:54.119 --> 01:40:58.039
<v Speaker 1>who publicly claimed the French First Lady was a man

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01:40:58.239 --> 01:41:03.079
<v Speaker 1>named Jean Michelle trock No. In their complaint, the couple wrote,

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01:41:03.239 --> 01:41:07.319
<v Speaker 1>missus or miss Owen's campaign of defamation was plainly designed

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01:41:07.359 --> 01:41:09.640
<v Speaker 1>to harass and cause pain to us and our families,

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01:41:09.880 --> 01:41:13.399
<v Speaker 1>and to garner attention and notoriety. Their attorney, Tom Claire

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01:41:13.520 --> 01:41:17.479
<v Speaker 1>told the BBC's Fame under Fire podcast that Brigitte Macron

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01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:21.159
<v Speaker 1>is prepared to present scientific evidence in court to refute

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01:41:21.159 --> 01:41:23.720
<v Speaker 1>the claims. She has firmly resolved to do what it

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01:41:23.760 --> 01:41:27.199
<v Speaker 1>takes to set the record straight. Claire said, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, now, let's talk about the ruling on these things.

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01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:32.600
<v Speaker 2>There was no arrest being made in all these things,

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<v Speaker 2>allegedly according to this publication.

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<v Speaker 1>This is false. It's all about timing, though. I would

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01:41:38.960 --> 01:41:41.279
<v Speaker 1>like to know the timing on these things, because if

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01:41:41.279 --> 01:41:45.560
<v Speaker 1>this is a newer thing that only comes after Candice

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01:41:45.600 --> 01:41:48.439
<v Speaker 1>has been talking about it, I'm looking at it side eyed,

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01:41:48.640 --> 01:41:52.520
<v Speaker 1>but ongoing. It happened two days ago.

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01:41:52.960 --> 01:41:55.079
<v Speaker 3>This article was published two days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I'm already looking at it like sketchy because

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01:41:59.479 --> 01:42:02.920
<v Speaker 1>you would probably start the criminal complaints as you know,

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01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:05.439
<v Speaker 1>these defamations are coming in. But if it has been

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01:42:05.439 --> 01:42:08.119
<v Speaker 1>on your fucking tax records for the past couple of years,

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01:42:08.960 --> 01:42:13.239
<v Speaker 1>as it is suggesting, then this is not like a

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01:42:13.319 --> 01:42:15.960
<v Speaker 1>happenstance that you just find out about two days ago,

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01:42:16.039 --> 01:42:17.720
<v Speaker 1>or at least as of time of reporting.

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<v Speaker 2>So they are saying by day I mean, the French

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01:42:21.479 --> 01:42:24.960
<v Speaker 2>government is saying that actually she has not been listed

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01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:28.560
<v Speaker 2>as a male for years. This got changed here in

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01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:30.680
<v Speaker 2>the past few weeks by a hacker group.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they can say that, but can they prove It's

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01:42:34.880 --> 01:42:37.920
<v Speaker 1>my question. Ah I'm with you. I'm with you, so

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<v Speaker 1>it says false. French authorities have confirmed that the appearance

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<v Speaker 1>of a male name in Briget mccrone's tax records was

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<v Speaker 1>the result of a cyber attack, not confirmation of any

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01:42:46.560 --> 01:42:50.600
<v Speaker 1>official identity, especially after they said that it was like unhackable.

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01:42:51.800 --> 01:42:54.159
<v Speaker 1>Well they said it was supposed to be unhackable.

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<v Speaker 2>But as we have learned so many times over now,

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01:42:57.319 --> 01:42:59.840
<v Speaker 2>if there is electricity being ran to it, it can

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<v Speaker 2>be hacked like that.

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<v Speaker 3>That is not even a point of argument at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyways, for sure, it's possible that somebody hacked it. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>of course that has to be a possibility. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting, Like I would like to find out when

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<v Speaker 1>these people had charges pressed up against them and did

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<v Speaker 1>it happen, you know, we pressed up against them. You

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<v Speaker 1>mean that like tucked in the belt a little bit,

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01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:26.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, they are tuck between the shoulder blades, depending

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01:43:26.399 --> 01:43:28.039
<v Speaker 1>on how the angle of the angle is, you know,

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01:43:28.520 --> 01:43:31.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, hey, you know, there's only so much duct

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01:43:31.119 --> 01:43:36.880
<v Speaker 1>tape in the world. But but anyway, all right, so

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01:43:36.960 --> 01:43:39.640
<v Speaker 1>this is Brigitte Macrone's gender change to mail on tax

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01:43:39.680 --> 01:43:43.439
<v Speaker 1>forms by hackers by gb News. This is Great Britain

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01:43:43.560 --> 01:43:45.439
<v Speaker 1>News Man gb News, but.

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01:43:45.520 --> 01:43:47.800
<v Speaker 2>They go into a little more detail as far as

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<v Speaker 2>the situation's concerned.

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01:43:49.399 --> 01:43:51.920
<v Speaker 1>A French government official has said that Brigitte Macrone was

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01:43:51.920 --> 01:43:54.760
<v Speaker 1>given a male name on her personal tax records by hackers.

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01:43:54.840 --> 01:43:58.000
<v Speaker 1>The first Lady of France has had her gender question

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01:43:58.079 --> 01:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>by conspiracy theorists online for a number of years. Missus

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01:44:01.039 --> 01:44:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Macrone has been falsely claimed to have been born a

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01:44:03.319 --> 01:44:06.640
<v Speaker 1>male and that her real name is Jean Mei Michelle Tragna,

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01:44:07.039 --> 01:44:09.760
<v Speaker 1>her maiden name is Trogna, and she has a brother

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01:44:09.880 --> 01:44:13.880
<v Speaker 1>called Jean Michel. Pause intrusting.

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01:44:14.880 --> 01:44:17.039
<v Speaker 2>So at first they were making it seem like that

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01:44:17.159 --> 01:44:23.359
<v Speaker 2>was Macrone, his Manuel's brother named Jean Michel. Now they're

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01:44:23.399 --> 01:44:25.840
<v Speaker 2>saying that Trogue Noa is actually her maiden name and

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01:44:25.920 --> 01:44:28.920
<v Speaker 2>she has a brother named Jean Michelle. Or maybe they

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01:44:28.960 --> 01:44:30.800
<v Speaker 2>just didn't give a distinction as to when they said

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01:44:31.039 --> 01:44:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Macrone's brother. Maybe they mint Brigitte instead of a manual.

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01:44:34.359 --> 01:44:36.279
<v Speaker 2>But you feel like you would have given that distinction.

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01:44:37.199 --> 01:44:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Fucking news agencies. But anyway, yeah, that's continued. Yes, she

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01:44:40.640 --> 01:44:44.399
<v Speaker 2>has a brother or had This brother has fallen off

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01:44:44.439 --> 01:44:46.520
<v Speaker 2>the map. Nobody has seen him for years and years,

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01:44:46.560 --> 01:44:49.640
<v Speaker 2>although there have been some pictures at a surface of

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01:44:49.680 --> 01:44:52.640
<v Speaker 2>an elderly gentleman that claims that he is her brother,

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01:44:53.039 --> 01:44:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Jean Michelle Tragne. But again, how can we verify that?

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01:44:59.119 --> 01:45:01.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean she he should verify it.

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01:45:01.960 --> 01:45:03.439
<v Speaker 3>She has claimed that that's accurate.

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01:45:03.479 --> 01:45:06.479
<v Speaker 2>But we, as the people that are questioning this whole situation,

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01:45:07.119 --> 01:45:08.920
<v Speaker 2>there's no way of us knowing that this picture of

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01:45:08.960 --> 01:45:11.640
<v Speaker 2>a random French dude is in fact her brother, or

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01:45:11.680 --> 01:45:14.000
<v Speaker 2>is that some random stock image that they found and

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01:45:14.079 --> 01:45:14.960
<v Speaker 2>claimed that this is her?

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<v Speaker 1>E see what I'm saying. Yeah, Ai is a motherfucker.

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01:45:18.760 --> 01:45:21.880
<v Speaker 1>It is. It is so anyhow, it says people have

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01:45:21.920 --> 01:45:24.600
<v Speaker 1>been hacking into her personal tax account and changing her

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01:45:24.680 --> 01:45:28.279
<v Speaker 1>name to Jean Michel known as Bridget Brigitte Macron. My

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01:45:28.399 --> 01:45:31.399
<v Speaker 1>thing is, why would you change it? If you're a hacker,

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01:45:31.920 --> 01:45:35.000
<v Speaker 1>why would you You can pick literally any name, why

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01:45:35.039 --> 01:45:37.640
<v Speaker 1>would you change it to the brother's name.

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01:45:39.000 --> 01:45:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, the conspiracy theory here is that her brother became her.

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01:45:45.039 --> 01:45:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh we got a whole Lady Gaga situation going on here.

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01:45:48.960 --> 01:45:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that basically, Jean Michel one day decided, you know what,

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01:45:54.159 --> 01:45:56.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm a lady now and I'm going by the name

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01:45:56.439 --> 01:46:00.479
<v Speaker 2>Brigitte and Jean Michel troc No just fell off the map.

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01:46:00.560 --> 01:46:03.079
<v Speaker 2>Nobody's seen or heard from him in thirty years. But

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01:46:03.159 --> 01:46:07.199
<v Speaker 2>Burgitte Macrone, first time she ever made an appearance ever ever,

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01:46:07.640 --> 01:46:08.720
<v Speaker 2>was of about thirty years.

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01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:10.479
<v Speaker 3>It's like one of those types of things.

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01:46:11.239 --> 01:46:16.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, this just got harrier. So anyway, known as

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01:46:16.439 --> 01:46:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Jean Michelle, known as Brigitte Macrone. Mister Bromet revealed the

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01:46:21.880 --> 01:46:24.319
<v Speaker 1>detail in an interview with the French news channel where

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01:46:24.479 --> 01:46:28.680
<v Speaker 1>he recountered how recounted how President Emmanuel Macrone's wife was

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01:46:28.760 --> 01:46:31.079
<v Speaker 1>stunned to see that her legal name had been changed

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01:46:31.119 --> 01:46:34.840
<v Speaker 1>when logging into her personal tax account. We were completely surprised,

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01:46:35.199 --> 01:46:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Rome said. I tried it again with her and sure enough,

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01:46:38.880 --> 01:46:41.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a section reserved for your username, so it can't

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01:46:41.600 --> 01:46:44.920
<v Speaker 1>be changed. If it can't be changed, how did he

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01:46:44.960 --> 01:46:45.520
<v Speaker 1>get changed?

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01:46:46.279 --> 01:46:47.720
<v Speaker 3>Unless the website was hacked?

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01:46:48.039 --> 01:46:51.279
<v Speaker 2>Possibly, But also I could see it if that's just

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01:46:51.359 --> 01:46:54.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of the legal tax id name that has always

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01:46:54.159 --> 01:46:57.079
<v Speaker 2>been associated with this account, and why would you change

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01:46:57.119 --> 01:46:58.760
<v Speaker 2>it if it's more of an alias thing.

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01:46:58.880 --> 01:47:02.199
<v Speaker 1>I get it. Unless this is a whole stolen identity

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01:47:02.279 --> 01:47:08.479
<v Speaker 1>situation where Jean Michelle actually is the real person or

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01:47:08.880 --> 01:47:10.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe I don't know, this is.

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01:47:10.159 --> 01:47:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Jean Michelle is the dead name, Jonathan, do not dead

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01:47:12.880 --> 01:47:13.319
<v Speaker 2>name her?

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01:47:13.479 --> 01:47:17.159
<v Speaker 1>You beg it. But what if like the brother is

2145
01:47:17.279 --> 01:47:19.800
<v Speaker 1>trying to be the sisters.

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01:47:20.039 --> 01:47:21.960
<v Speaker 3>That's what it is, That's what they're suggesting.

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01:47:24.560 --> 01:47:26.239
<v Speaker 1>That's what it was. Stolen identity.

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01:47:26.800 --> 01:47:29.000
<v Speaker 2>It's a tranny that is saying, don't call me by

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01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:32.039
<v Speaker 2>my dead name of Jean Michel, my name is Brigitte.

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01:47:31.520 --> 01:47:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Now, oh man, Okay, So wait in this situation where

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01:47:37.279 --> 01:47:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Jean Michelle is Brigitte's brother, I mean, are we sitting

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01:47:42.119 --> 01:47:46.079
<v Speaker 1>here and saying that like Brigitte either a never existed

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01:47:46.640 --> 01:47:50.920
<v Speaker 1>or did exist, but Jean Jean Michelle took her place.

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01:47:52.239 --> 01:47:54.640
<v Speaker 3>So there's a couple of different theories.

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01:47:54.800 --> 01:47:58.039
<v Speaker 2>The biggest one that there ha been on the on

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01:47:58.119 --> 01:48:01.840
<v Speaker 2>the interwebs, in the sphere, if you will, is that

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01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:05.439
<v Speaker 2>Jean Michel woke up one day and decided that he

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01:48:05.560 --> 01:48:09.039
<v Speaker 2>is going to be Brigitte. Now, this human being calling

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01:48:09.079 --> 01:48:12.239
<v Speaker 2>themselves Brigitte Macrone claims that they also have a brother

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01:48:12.319 --> 01:48:14.279
<v Speaker 2>named Jean Michelle, but nobody has seen or heard from

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01:48:14.319 --> 01:48:18.079
<v Speaker 2>him from decades. But now Brigitte is the one in

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01:48:18.600 --> 01:48:23.399
<v Speaker 2>the limelight, so to speak. Female is nine horn Kinehorn

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01:48:23.479 --> 01:48:23.880
<v Speaker 2>is finkle.

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01:48:23.920 --> 01:48:27.079
<v Speaker 1>Are you with me? Yeah? I mean, are the parents

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01:48:27.119 --> 01:48:30.039
<v Speaker 1>dead or the grandparents dead, anybody from this fucking family

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01:48:30.279 --> 01:48:32.720
<v Speaker 1>and alive to be able to confirm that there were

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01:48:32.760 --> 01:48:34.279
<v Speaker 1>two kids and not just one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing they have been asking for family photos.

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01:48:38.399 --> 01:48:42.159
<v Speaker 2>Any picture of Brigitte Macrone as a child, anything, just

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01:48:42.359 --> 01:48:44.920
<v Speaker 2>one picture, one school picture from when she was a kid,

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01:48:44.920 --> 01:48:47.520
<v Speaker 2>would would suffice. And I have seen I was talking

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01:48:47.520 --> 01:48:49.439
<v Speaker 2>about that at the beginning of the episode. There is

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01:48:49.560 --> 01:48:52.319
<v Speaker 2>a picture that I have seen that surface of her

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01:48:52.439 --> 01:48:55.920
<v Speaker 2>as a child. But keep in mind, AI is a motherfucker,

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01:48:56.359 --> 01:48:58.800
<v Speaker 2>So like, how can we verify if this is just

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01:48:58.840 --> 01:49:01.800
<v Speaker 2>a digital image or this is actually a family photo

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01:49:01.880 --> 01:49:05.920
<v Speaker 2>or something like this? It is allegedly and I am

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01:49:05.960 --> 01:49:10.520
<v Speaker 2>putting quotes on that Brigitte as a young girl, and

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01:49:10.560 --> 01:49:13.399
<v Speaker 2>she looks like she's dressed as a nun and I'm

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01:49:13.399 --> 01:49:16.560
<v Speaker 2>assuming she went to like a very preppy Catholic boarding

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01:49:16.600 --> 01:49:18.880
<v Speaker 2>school type of situation, Like that was the uniform that

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01:49:18.880 --> 01:49:22.560
<v Speaker 2>they were wearing or whatever, and you could almost barely

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01:49:22.640 --> 01:49:25.079
<v Speaker 2>see in the face how it kind of looks like Brigitte.

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01:49:25.279 --> 01:49:27.720
<v Speaker 1>But brother, it is a hard sale.

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01:49:28.359 --> 01:49:30.760
<v Speaker 2>It's a hard sale to be honest, and again, we

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01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:33.960
<v Speaker 2>honestly cannot verify if that's an AI image or if

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01:49:33.960 --> 01:49:38.119
<v Speaker 2>that's a real picture of her as a child. No

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01:49:38.279 --> 01:49:41.239
<v Speaker 2>pictures of her as a kid in school, in college.

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01:49:41.840 --> 01:49:45.800
<v Speaker 2>The school where allegedly Manuel in her first met, has

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01:49:45.880 --> 01:49:48.720
<v Speaker 2>no record of Brigitte Macrone ever working there, even though

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01:49:48.760 --> 01:49:50.600
<v Speaker 2>she claims that she was a teacher when they met.

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01:49:51.359 --> 01:49:54.159
<v Speaker 2>The more you look at it, the more layers of

2193
01:49:54.159 --> 01:49:56.359
<v Speaker 2>this onion you peel back, the more questions you end

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01:49:56.479 --> 01:49:56.880
<v Speaker 2>up having.

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01:49:57.399 --> 01:49:59.680
<v Speaker 1>This is a Bob Lazar kind of situation where he

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01:49:59.760 --> 01:50:03.319
<v Speaker 1>never worked at S four kind of thing. Maybe, eh, well,

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01:50:04.880 --> 01:50:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's a government cover up with the bab

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01:50:06.720 --> 01:50:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Blazart thing. But for her, it seems like she just

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01:50:09.359 --> 01:50:13.840
<v Speaker 1>popped out of literally nowhere. And also, you know, this

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01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:17.840
<v Speaker 1>is smelling a lot like you know, Michelle Obama situation,

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01:50:18.199 --> 01:50:21.640
<v Speaker 1>because there are no photos of her as a young lady.

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01:50:21.880 --> 01:50:25.119
<v Speaker 1>There's no, dude, there's not even photos. You now, they

2203
01:50:25.119 --> 01:50:27.840
<v Speaker 1>have two kids, you know, the Obama's right, there's no

2204
01:50:28.039 --> 01:50:30.239
<v Speaker 1>photos of those kids as babies.

2205
01:50:30.880 --> 01:50:32.840
<v Speaker 3>There's no photos of her pregnant.

2206
01:50:33.319 --> 01:50:33.880
<v Speaker 1>So weird.

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01:50:34.840 --> 01:50:37.159
<v Speaker 2>And again I've said it before, look at the kids

2208
01:50:37.199 --> 01:50:39.840
<v Speaker 2>that they left the White House with as opposed to

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01:50:39.920 --> 01:50:42.479
<v Speaker 2>the two kids they had going into the White House. No,

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01:50:42.600 --> 01:50:45.199
<v Speaker 2>I understand that you'll age a lot in eight years. Dude,

2211
01:50:45.319 --> 01:50:48.600
<v Speaker 2>these kids are not the same children they got swapped

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01:50:48.600 --> 01:50:49.640
<v Speaker 2>out somewhere.

2213
01:50:49.239 --> 01:50:51.720
<v Speaker 1>In season two. Honestly, dude, this is like a whole

2214
01:50:51.720 --> 01:50:54.359
<v Speaker 1>fresh prince of bel Air. Whenever they tried selling off

2215
01:50:55.079 --> 01:50:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Will's and viv Yeah yeah, they swapped out an Viv

2216
01:50:58.640 --> 01:51:02.520
<v Speaker 1>like nobody was gonna notice. It was literally this Yeah, yeah,

2217
01:51:02.640 --> 01:51:06.199
<v Speaker 1>so weird. So anyway, it says his interview is part

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01:51:06.239 --> 01:51:09.239
<v Speaker 1>of a documentary ahead of a trial starting on Monday

2219
01:51:09.319 --> 01:51:11.640
<v Speaker 1>in the Paris Criminal Court where eight men and two

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01:51:11.680 --> 01:51:16.239
<v Speaker 1>women are facing allegations of sexist cyber bullying against missus mcrone.

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01:51:17.399 --> 01:51:18.880
<v Speaker 3>So this is the other clincher.

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01:51:19.319 --> 01:51:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Although they're saying, well, if it's not real, then how

2223
01:51:21.560 --> 01:51:22.720
<v Speaker 2>come nobody's been arrested.

2224
01:51:22.840 --> 01:51:25.439
<v Speaker 1>If it was a real hacking into her tax.

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01:51:25.199 --> 01:51:28.399
<v Speaker 2>Records and all this, why has nobody been arrested Although

2226
01:51:28.920 --> 01:51:32.000
<v Speaker 2>there have been eight men and two women have been

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01:51:32.079 --> 01:51:35.880
<v Speaker 2>arrested and they are facing possible charges about the hacking

2228
01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:38.279
<v Speaker 2>of her tax records, But now we.

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01:51:38.239 --> 01:51:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Don't know when, when did that happen?

2230
01:51:41.800 --> 01:51:43.880
<v Speaker 2>We don't know when as of now, and we also

2231
01:51:44.039 --> 01:51:45.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know for sure if this is also going to

2232
01:51:45.880 --> 01:51:47.479
<v Speaker 2>be one of those things where it gets brushed under

2233
01:51:47.479 --> 01:51:50.680
<v Speaker 2>the rug and nobody actually gets any quote unquote justice

2234
01:51:50.720 --> 01:51:51.600
<v Speaker 2>doled out to them.

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01:51:51.640 --> 01:51:54.119
<v Speaker 1>We don't know. And do we know the names of

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01:51:54.199 --> 01:51:57.119
<v Speaker 1>the alleged hackers, they haven't released them yet.

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01:51:57.279 --> 01:51:59.199
<v Speaker 3>This is very very new. This is only posted a

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01:51:59.239 --> 01:51:59.880
<v Speaker 3>couple of days ago.

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01:52:01.680 --> 01:52:02.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:03.520
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, the.

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01:52:03.520 --> 01:52:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Whole thing about her tax information that only came out

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01:52:05.960 --> 01:52:09.720
<v Speaker 2>this week. So we are recording this on Wednesday. As

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01:52:09.760 --> 01:52:13.079
<v Speaker 2>of recording, I only first heard about this on Sunday.

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01:52:14.960 --> 01:52:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I guess we'll see how it pans out.

2246
01:52:16.920 --> 01:52:20.439
<v Speaker 1>But anyhow, it says mister and missus mcrone also filed

2247
01:52:20.439 --> 01:52:24.800
<v Speaker 1>a separate lawsuit against conservative influencer Candice Owens. Owens produced

2248
01:52:24.840 --> 01:52:28.239
<v Speaker 1>an eight part podcast series which claimed that Missus Macrone

2249
01:52:28.439 --> 01:52:32.920
<v Speaker 1>is transgender. The defendants in the trial in France include

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01:52:33.079 --> 01:52:37.439
<v Speaker 1>an elected official, gallery owner, teacher, medium, and computer scientists.

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01:52:37.439 --> 01:52:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh a medium, a medium, a gallery owner, and elected official,

2252
01:52:42.319 --> 01:52:46.079
<v Speaker 1>a computer scientist, a teacher. Their ages range between forty

2253
01:52:46.119 --> 01:52:46.960
<v Speaker 1>one and sixty.

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01:52:47.039 --> 01:52:50.039
<v Speaker 2>These are the people that allegedly were the quote unquote

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01:52:50.079 --> 01:52:52.319
<v Speaker 2>hackers that changed the name, or at least they're being

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01:52:52.399 --> 01:52:54.439
<v Speaker 2>implemented in the defamation lawsuit.

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01:52:54.920 --> 01:52:57.800
<v Speaker 1>It's wild. That's weird, Okay. So it says they stand

2258
01:52:57.800 --> 01:53:00.359
<v Speaker 1>accused of making a number of malicious comments about missus

2259
01:53:00.399 --> 01:53:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Macrone and equating the age difference with her husband twenty

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01:53:03.239 --> 01:53:07.560
<v Speaker 1>four years with pedophilia. You can't deny, Yeah, you cannot

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01:53:07.600 --> 01:53:08.159
<v Speaker 1>deny that.

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01:53:08.760 --> 01:53:11.760
<v Speaker 2>According to the official narrative, she was thirty nine and

2263
01:53:11.800 --> 01:53:15.840
<v Speaker 2>he was fourteen. I'm sorry, no, that would be pedophilia.

2264
01:53:16.039 --> 01:53:18.000
<v Speaker 2>There's no way you could sidestep that.

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01:53:18.079 --> 01:53:20.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, even if like, and we've all heard of

2266
01:53:20.800 --> 01:53:26.279
<v Speaker 1>situations like you know, like teachers kind of teaching their

2267
01:53:26.319 --> 01:53:30.680
<v Speaker 1>students whenever they were thirteen, fourteen, fifteen kind of situation.

2268
01:53:30.760 --> 01:53:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Then they end up married. It's like, dude, you knew

2269
01:53:33.079 --> 01:53:35.560
<v Speaker 1>them when they were a child. That is weird that

2270
01:53:35.680 --> 01:53:39.279
<v Speaker 1>y'all are together now. It's very it's very, very strange.

2271
01:53:39.640 --> 01:53:42.079
<v Speaker 1>It's so weird. But it says forty one year old

2272
01:53:42.119 --> 01:53:49.199
<v Speaker 1>advertising executive Orlane Orlane Porson Atlin, posted under the pseudonym

2273
01:53:49.439 --> 01:53:52.159
<v Speaker 1>Zoe Sagan and was identified as one of the people

2274
01:53:52.159 --> 01:53:55.479
<v Speaker 1>who allegedly spread lives in conspiracy theories. He is accused

2275
01:53:55.600 --> 01:53:59.239
<v Speaker 1>also accused of sharing explicit videos of the president's mayoral

2276
01:53:59.319 --> 01:54:03.760
<v Speaker 1>candidate for Paris in twenty twenty, Benjamin Griveaux Mister Graveaux,

2277
01:54:03.880 --> 01:54:06.159
<v Speaker 1>was forced to withdraw from the race after being accused

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<v Speaker 1>of sending sexual content to a woman who was not

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01:54:08.920 --> 01:54:18.239
<v Speaker 1>his wife, Delphine Delphine Delphiyep Delphine Jagoose Jagoose. It was

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<v Speaker 1>fifty one under the pseudonym Aman Dean Roy or imagine

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<v Speaker 1>it's waw. We'll be back in court after being cleared

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01:54:26.960 --> 01:54:30.279
<v Speaker 1>of defamation charges by a French court in July, she

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01:54:30.319 --> 01:54:35.479
<v Speaker 1>will face cyber bullying charges. Or Missus Jagoose and Natasha

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01:54:35.560 --> 01:54:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Ray falsely claimed that Missus Macrone was a man and

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01:54:37.880 --> 01:54:41.560
<v Speaker 1>described the first Lady as a swindle. There Rumors resurfaced

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01:54:41.560 --> 01:54:47.039
<v Speaker 1>when Missus Owens released her series Becoming Brigitte. And you

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01:54:47.079 --> 01:54:49.239
<v Speaker 1>know it's funny, like I know why she did that

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01:54:49.399 --> 01:54:52.560
<v Speaker 1>because there was a Michelle Obama book where it was

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01:54:52.640 --> 01:54:56.319
<v Speaker 1>called Becoming So people were like elluding that, oh, you're

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01:54:56.359 --> 01:55:00.840
<v Speaker 1>becoming like transitioning a little bit h up. So the

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01:55:00.880 --> 01:55:04.760
<v Speaker 1>couple's lawyer said Missus mcrone would present photographic and scientific

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01:55:04.840 --> 01:55:07.479
<v Speaker 1>evidence to prove an American to an American court that

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01:55:07.560 --> 01:55:09.319
<v Speaker 1>she is a biological woman.

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01:55:10.640 --> 01:55:13.800
<v Speaker 3>Possibly possibly, we don't know that for sure.

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01:55:14.279 --> 01:55:17.880
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, as far as this goes, when Candice is saying, well,

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<v Speaker 2>why hasn't anybody been arrested, there have been ten arrests now,

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01:55:22.880 --> 01:55:25.560
<v Speaker 2>no convictions as of yet, there have been ten people

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01:55:25.600 --> 01:55:29.039
<v Speaker 2>that have at least been arrested for these charges. We

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01:55:29.159 --> 01:55:31.399
<v Speaker 2>still need to see what's going to happen when they

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01:55:31.479 --> 01:55:34.000
<v Speaker 2>face court. Now, let's talk a little bit more about

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01:55:34.039 --> 01:55:37.039
<v Speaker 2>the ten that are standing trial in Paris over sexist

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01:55:37.279 --> 01:55:39.319
<v Speaker 2>cyberbullying of Brigitte Macron.

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01:55:39.359 --> 01:55:42.119
<v Speaker 1>This is from RF five. This is an airnational news source.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight men and two women go on trial in Paris

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01:55:44.840 --> 01:55:48.319
<v Speaker 2>on Monday and Tuesday, accused of sexist online bullying of

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01:55:48.439 --> 01:55:52.560
<v Speaker 2>France's First Lady, Brigitte Macrone slash First Training. The defendants

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01:55:52.560 --> 01:55:55.199
<v Speaker 2>are aids between forty one and sixty. They include an

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<v Speaker 2>elected official, gallery owner, teacher, medium, and IT specialist.

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01:55:59.319 --> 01:56:00.479
<v Speaker 1>Now, I'm gonna be with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Of all the people that were hacking in and changing

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01:56:03.640 --> 01:56:06.000
<v Speaker 2>the tax records and things, I feel like the IT

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01:56:06.359 --> 01:56:11.399
<v Speaker 2>specialist is probably the only one that might might actually

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01:56:11.479 --> 01:56:13.560
<v Speaker 2>have some know how of how to hack into the

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01:56:13.600 --> 01:56:15.279
<v Speaker 2>French government's tax system.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey dude, don't throw inn a shade on the medium,

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01:56:17.520 --> 01:56:20.159
<v Speaker 1>could have received a that's so raven type download on

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01:56:20.239 --> 01:56:21.399
<v Speaker 1>how to do it? You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, yeah, totally possibly.

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01:56:25.600 --> 01:56:28.439
<v Speaker 2>They are accused of posting malicious comments online about Brigitie

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01:56:28.479 --> 01:56:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Macrone's gender and sexuality, and of comparing her age gap

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01:56:31.760 --> 01:56:35.319
<v Speaker 2>with her husband to pedophilia. The Paris Prosecutor's office says

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01:56:35.520 --> 01:56:38.560
<v Speaker 2>the investigation followed a complaint lodged by Margitite Macrone on

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01:56:38.800 --> 01:56:41.319
<v Speaker 2>twenty seventh of August twenty twenty four, and it led

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01:56:41.319 --> 01:56:44.119
<v Speaker 2>to several waves of arrests in December of twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four and February of twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Now the trial over the online abuse. Oh shure got

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<v Speaker 3>a zoom out for this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bad.

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01:56:50.680 --> 01:56:52.520
<v Speaker 3>I zoomed in so I could read better because my eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>And what he used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Investigators said they selected one of the most virulent offenders.

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<v Speaker 2>If convicted, the accused face up to two years in prison.

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01:57:00.760 --> 01:57:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Brageite Mcron's lawyer, Jean Anoki, which, again, if you want

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01:57:05.000 --> 01:57:07.119
<v Speaker 2>to look into jeanainoke to any of the good cult

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01:57:07.119 --> 01:57:09.560
<v Speaker 2>members and see that there is some fuck shit involved

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01:57:09.560 --> 01:57:12.359
<v Speaker 2>with his past as far as who he's represented, but

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<v Speaker 2>we are not going there right now. Has not confirmed

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<v Speaker 2>whether she will attend the hearing. The lawyer has not

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01:57:19.479 --> 01:57:21.960
<v Speaker 2>confirmed if they will be attending the hearing.

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<v Speaker 3>But all right, all right, sidestepping that.

2341
01:57:25.199 --> 01:57:28.319
<v Speaker 2>Among the accused is forty one year old advertising executive

2342
01:57:28.640 --> 01:57:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Aurelian Posson. We already talked about that one his ex account,

2343
01:57:31.600 --> 01:57:33.119
<v Speaker 2>it was a pseudon and the he was going under

2344
01:57:33.119 --> 01:57:36.479
<v Speaker 2>saying Zoe Sagan. His x account, since suspended, has been

2345
01:57:36.479 --> 01:57:39.039
<v Speaker 2>the subject of several complaints and is often described as

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01:57:39.039 --> 01:57:42.720
<v Speaker 2>being linked to conspiracy circles. We also talked about old

2347
01:57:42.760 --> 01:57:46.239
<v Speaker 2>diff Delphine, a fifty one year old medium self style

2348
01:57:46.359 --> 01:57:50.520
<v Speaker 2>journalists and quote unquote whistleblower known online as Amandine Roy.

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01:57:50.880 --> 01:57:52.279
<v Speaker 2>She played a major role in the spreading of the

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01:57:52.359 --> 01:57:54.720
<v Speaker 2>rumor that Brigitte Macrome born shrog No was a transgender

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01:57:54.760 --> 01:57:56.279
<v Speaker 2>woman whose birthname was Jean Michelle.

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<v Speaker 1>Referring to her brother.

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01:57:57.760 --> 01:58:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Delphine was convicted of defamation by French court in September

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01:58:01.520 --> 01:58:05.239
<v Speaker 2>of twenty twenty four, alongside independent journalists, Natcha Ray, we

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01:58:05.279 --> 01:58:08.399
<v Speaker 2>already talked about these things. They were to pay several

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01:58:08.439 --> 01:58:12.199
<v Speaker 2>thousand euro in damages and five thousand to Jean Michelle

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01:58:12.199 --> 01:58:12.680
<v Speaker 2>trock No.

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01:58:13.239 --> 01:58:14.039
<v Speaker 1>She was later.

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<v Speaker 2>Acquitted on appeal on July tenth of this year. Brigitte

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01:58:18.680 --> 01:58:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Macrone and her brother have lodged an appeal before the

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01:58:21.760 --> 01:58:27.399
<v Speaker 2>Court of Causation against that ruling. Now they don't give

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01:58:27.439 --> 01:58:29.359
<v Speaker 2>any other names as far as this goes. They bring

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01:58:29.439 --> 01:58:31.359
<v Speaker 2>up ten people, but only two of them. They actually

2364
01:58:31.439 --> 01:58:35.119
<v Speaker 2>talk about the medium and the journalist. But now we

2365
01:58:35.199 --> 01:58:39.279
<v Speaker 2>talk about it going to it goes to the claims

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01:58:39.279 --> 01:58:41.800
<v Speaker 2>that spread to the United States. The trial comes a

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01:58:41.800 --> 01:58:44.920
<v Speaker 2>few days after the BFMTV documentary revealed that the first

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01:58:45.000 --> 01:58:48.079
<v Speaker 2>Ladies Online tax file have been hacked in September of

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01:58:48.119 --> 01:58:51.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four and her name changed to Jean Michelle.

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01:58:51.159 --> 01:58:53.159
<v Speaker 2>So you're telling me that a year ago it was

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01:58:53.199 --> 01:58:56.560
<v Speaker 2>brought to her attention that her name on her taxes

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01:58:56.720 --> 01:59:03.520
<v Speaker 2>had been shifted. Interesting and also, why is that just

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01:59:03.600 --> 01:59:07.439
<v Speaker 2>now hitting Candace Owens's desk or anybody any journalist that's

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01:59:07.479 --> 01:59:10.399
<v Speaker 2>been really looking into this. Her eight part series did

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01:59:10.439 --> 01:59:13.279
<v Speaker 2>not bring up this tax id change in the name.

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01:59:13.880 --> 01:59:17.000
<v Speaker 2>You feel like with her, with her level of deep diving,

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01:59:17.640 --> 01:59:20.520
<v Speaker 2>she would have found that and this court case about it.

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01:59:21.319 --> 01:59:24.000
<v Speaker 1>But I digress. I didn't watch a part series, so

2379
01:59:24.399 --> 01:59:26.119
<v Speaker 1>I can't say fair.

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01:59:26.479 --> 01:59:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Miss McCrone filed a lawsuit to find out where the

2381
01:59:28.920 --> 01:59:33.399
<v Speaker 2>change had come from, and investigators identified two people. Tristan Bromant,

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01:59:33.479 --> 01:59:35.960
<v Speaker 2>her chief of staff, said the claim that the French

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01:59:35.960 --> 01:59:38.600
<v Speaker 2>First Lady was born a man rease a first surface

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01:59:38.600 --> 01:59:39.439
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty one.

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01:59:39.520 --> 01:59:40.600
<v Speaker 3>We already talked about that.

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01:59:40.960 --> 01:59:43.680
<v Speaker 2>The far right podcaster can Of Owens release of video

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01:59:43.720 --> 01:59:44.760
<v Speaker 2>series Becoming Brigitte.

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01:59:45.199 --> 01:59:45.720
<v Speaker 1>In March.

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01:59:45.880 --> 01:59:49.319
<v Speaker 2>Owen said that she would stake her entire professional reputation

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01:59:49.479 --> 01:59:51.560
<v Speaker 2>on the claim that Brigitte was born a male. In

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01:59:51.680 --> 01:59:54.720
<v Speaker 2>late July, the presidential couple launched legal action in the

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01:59:54.880 --> 01:59:58.680
<v Speaker 2>US against Owens for defamation. Several of those on trial

2393
01:59:58.720 --> 02:00:01.720
<v Speaker 2>in Paris are accused of a amplifying content for Owens.

2394
02:00:02.439 --> 02:00:05.920
<v Speaker 2>A doctor Time magazine cover shows Brigitte Macrone as Man.

2395
02:00:05.760 --> 02:00:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Of the Year, with the caption excellent. I hadn't seen the.

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02:00:11.359 --> 02:00:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Time magazine meme Man of the Year with Brigitte Macron.

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<v Speaker 2>Another post a defendant share claims that two thousand people

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02:00:18.479 --> 02:00:21.000
<v Speaker 2>were ready to go door to door in a means

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02:00:21.079 --> 02:00:23.840
<v Speaker 2>to get to the bottom of the Brigitte affair, promising

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02:00:23.920 --> 02:00:26.960
<v Speaker 2>the involvement of the American bloggers. Basically, they're saying, because

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02:00:27.000 --> 02:00:29.960
<v Speaker 2>she came from Amines, I'm probably mispronouncing the word the

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02:00:29.960 --> 02:00:32.640
<v Speaker 2>city in France, And basically they're saying, they like, Yo,

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02:00:32.680 --> 02:00:35.119
<v Speaker 2>We're just gonna go door to door and ask any

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02:00:35.159 --> 02:00:38.119
<v Speaker 2>of the old timers do they remember this person, like

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02:00:38.199 --> 02:00:40.920
<v Speaker 2>do they have any record of her, any memory of

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02:00:40.960 --> 02:00:41.840
<v Speaker 2>this girl.

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<v Speaker 3>At all, and that of course hasn't happened.

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02:00:44.840 --> 02:00:47.920
<v Speaker 2>President Emmanuel Macrone has called the accusation against his wife

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02:00:47.960 --> 02:00:50.760
<v Speaker 2>false and fabricated. On the International Woman's Day of this year,

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02:00:50.800 --> 02:00:53.079
<v Speaker 2>he said the worst thing that the false information and

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02:00:53.199 --> 02:00:58.520
<v Speaker 2>fabrication scenarios people eventually believe them. So we do not

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02:00:58.760 --> 02:01:02.039
<v Speaker 2>know for sure what is going to take place and

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02:01:02.119 --> 02:01:04.600
<v Speaker 2>what's gonna happen as far as is concerned. What we

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02:01:04.760 --> 02:01:07.840
<v Speaker 2>do know for sure is that there have been people

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<v Speaker 2>arrested on this case in France. There have been other people,

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02:01:13.079 --> 02:01:16.439
<v Speaker 2>content creators or YouTubers or talking heads, whatever you want

2417
02:01:16.439 --> 02:01:18.439
<v Speaker 2>to call them, that have tried to bring this up

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02:01:18.479 --> 02:01:22.239
<v Speaker 2>to the public zeitgeist, and they were brought to justice

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02:01:22.319 --> 02:01:25.560
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote, and then usually the cases were acquitted and

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02:01:25.600 --> 02:01:28.039
<v Speaker 2>nobody really had to pay anything. There is only one

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02:01:28.119 --> 02:01:32.720
<v Speaker 2>case that medium had to pay five thousand eurow Tubergit

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02:01:32.920 --> 02:01:35.720
<v Speaker 2>and five thousand to our brother. That's not a lot

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02:01:35.840 --> 02:01:38.560
<v Speaker 2>as far as like a mass defamation against the first

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02:01:38.640 --> 02:01:41.000
<v Speaker 2>lady of your nation goes. You would think that that

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02:01:41.039 --> 02:01:45.359
<v Speaker 2>would be a hefty payout five k. Like, I don't

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02:01:45.359 --> 02:01:47.399
<v Speaker 2>know what the media and household income in France is,

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02:01:47.479 --> 02:01:50.000
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like that's not something that's going to

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02:01:50.079 --> 02:01:52.239
<v Speaker 2>ruin your financial future. You'll probably be able to bounce

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02:01:52.239 --> 02:01:53.760
<v Speaker 2>back from that in a few months, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. I mean it's hard to speak

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02:01:57.800 --> 02:01:59.520
<v Speaker 1>on a lot of it, you know, especially whenever you're

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02:01:59.520 --> 02:02:03.319
<v Speaker 1>regarding different justice systems. I don't know how things go

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02:02:03.479 --> 02:02:06.880
<v Speaker 1>over there, you know. Yeah, maybe that's a lot. I

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02:02:06.920 --> 02:02:08.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean, it's a lot for most people.

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02:02:08.880 --> 02:02:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Most people don't have five grands sitting in their bank account.

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02:02:11.159 --> 02:02:14.800
<v Speaker 1>But that being said, it's like even if you took

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02:02:14.840 --> 02:02:16.800
<v Speaker 1>out a loan for five grand, it's not gonna crush you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm actually gonna look up what is that converted

2439
02:02:20.720 --> 02:02:23.640
<v Speaker 2>to dollars? Just so we all get a good understanding

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02:02:23.720 --> 02:02:25.359
<v Speaker 2>of it. That's fifty eight hundred dollars.

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02:02:25.479 --> 02:02:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I was about to say probably six grand around there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean it's not again, it's not great,

2443
02:02:31.600 --> 02:02:34.239
<v Speaker 2>it's not fun, but it's also not.

2444
02:02:34.239 --> 02:02:37.079
<v Speaker 1>Going to ruin your entire life. Right.

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02:02:38.359 --> 02:02:41.520
<v Speaker 2>So, as of right now, there is still some more

2446
02:02:41.600 --> 02:02:46.880
<v Speaker 2>controversy surrounding the Brigitte Macrone slash Jean Michelle Trock No conversation.

2447
02:02:47.399 --> 02:02:49.079
<v Speaker 2>A lot of things are still gonna be coming out

2448
02:02:49.119 --> 02:02:51.399
<v Speaker 2>here in the next few weeks and months. But again,

2449
02:02:52.319 --> 02:02:56.239
<v Speaker 2>the main three options that I see taking place here,

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02:02:56.279 --> 02:02:58.800
<v Speaker 2>like we talked about earlier, Jonathan, and I think that

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02:02:58.880 --> 02:03:00.560
<v Speaker 2>you and I are both in agreement on this one.

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02:03:00.760 --> 02:03:05.640
<v Speaker 2>A she does in fact provide evidence, and American doctors

2453
02:03:05.720 --> 02:03:09.159
<v Speaker 2>verify this too, and Candace has to come out of

2454
02:03:09.199 --> 02:03:10.159
<v Speaker 2>pocket a lot.

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02:03:10.800 --> 02:03:12.920
<v Speaker 3>It's very similar to the Alex Jones case.

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02:03:13.560 --> 02:03:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Number two.

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02:03:15.199 --> 02:03:19.199
<v Speaker 2>She comes forward, drops the bass in her voice, and

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02:03:19.239 --> 02:03:22.159
<v Speaker 2>acknowledges that she is in fact a dude. Once the

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02:03:22.199 --> 02:03:25.479
<v Speaker 2>doctors try to run those those tests and find why

2460
02:03:25.560 --> 02:03:31.760
<v Speaker 2>chromosomes could be or three, it gets blasted everywhere. It

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02:03:31.760 --> 02:03:35.800
<v Speaker 2>becomes the biggest talking point of the month, and then

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02:03:35.880 --> 02:03:38.079
<v Speaker 2>some other thing kind of takes the people's attention away

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02:03:38.079 --> 02:03:41.600
<v Speaker 2>from it, and low key, they just kind of dismiss everything.

2464
02:03:41.880 --> 02:03:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Hush hush, goes quiet.

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02:03:43.520 --> 02:03:45.720
<v Speaker 2>They make Candace sign a paper that says that she'll

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02:03:45.720 --> 02:03:47.479
<v Speaker 2>stop talking about it, and we just move on to

2467
02:03:47.520 --> 02:03:48.920
<v Speaker 2>the next topic, or.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you at with this? Or World War three

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02:03:51.359 --> 02:03:55.000
<v Speaker 1>happens and everybody goes into martial law and nothing happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I guess that's always a fourth option.

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02:03:58.039 --> 02:04:00.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, sure nukes could drop and then it's nobody's

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02:04:00.960 --> 02:04:01.600
<v Speaker 2>problem anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea, yea, yeah, I mean fair, fair enough. We got

2474
02:04:03.319 --> 02:04:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the aliens on our side dismantling the nuke, So I

2475
02:04:05.640 --> 02:04:09.239
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's gonna be a nuke situation. Yeah, we'll see.

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02:04:09.520 --> 02:04:11.680
<v Speaker 1>We'll see if that happens. I don't I don't know.

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02:04:12.319 --> 02:04:14.760
<v Speaker 2>But as far as this is concerned, where are you

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02:04:14.840 --> 02:04:17.800
<v Speaker 2>more leaning? I gotta say, of those three options, and

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02:04:17.840 --> 02:04:20.319
<v Speaker 2>going off of the precedents that they've already done with

2480
02:04:20.479 --> 02:04:24.520
<v Speaker 2>other defamation cases about her being a tranny, I think

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02:04:24.560 --> 02:04:26.439
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot more likely that it will be a

2482
02:04:26.479 --> 02:04:29.399
<v Speaker 2>look over here, not over there. Nobody's gonna pay out

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02:04:29.399 --> 02:04:33.520
<v Speaker 2>any money, nobody's gonna get their their day in court.

2484
02:04:33.600 --> 02:04:36.079
<v Speaker 2>And vindication to say yes, I was right, No, you

2485
02:04:36.119 --> 02:04:38.960
<v Speaker 2>were right. Whatever, I think it's gonna go away quietly.

2486
02:04:39.159 --> 02:04:43.119
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna close the case, dismiss it, claim it's a mistrial,

2487
02:04:43.680 --> 02:04:45.720
<v Speaker 2>and it's just gonna go away into the dust.

2488
02:04:46.439 --> 02:04:48.680
<v Speaker 1>That where are you at with that's probably the most

2489
02:04:48.760 --> 02:04:52.479
<v Speaker 1>likely outcome. Now, I absolutely agree that it is some

2490
02:04:52.520 --> 02:04:56.039
<v Speaker 1>sort of a magic trick, like whatever comes of this,

2491
02:04:56.199 --> 02:05:00.039
<v Speaker 1>there there is a you know, sleight of handkind in

2492
02:05:00.119 --> 02:05:03.199
<v Speaker 1>a situation as far as garnering the the attention from

2493
02:05:03.319 --> 02:05:06.039
<v Speaker 1>most people, not even only of this country, but I

2494
02:05:06.079 --> 02:05:07.840
<v Speaker 1>would say, you know, a lot of the world's probably

2495
02:05:07.880 --> 02:05:11.680
<v Speaker 1>paying attention to it, right, And I don't know. I

2496
02:05:11.720 --> 02:05:15.039
<v Speaker 1>think that it's possible that both kind of come away

2497
02:05:15.159 --> 02:05:18.479
<v Speaker 1>unscathed and it gets swept under the rug and there's

2498
02:05:18.520 --> 02:05:22.359
<v Speaker 1>a handshake and Candas continues during her show, Brigitte Macrone

2499
02:05:22.439 --> 02:05:24.600
<v Speaker 1>continues to pull her dick out and stand up whenever

2500
02:05:24.640 --> 02:05:29.720
<v Speaker 1>she peas it's entirely I mean not Candas, Brigitte does yo,

2501
02:05:29.880 --> 02:05:32.520
<v Speaker 1>have you heard that theory? The canvas is a man?

2502
02:05:32.760 --> 02:05:35.279
<v Speaker 1>I hope, oh my god, I've heard it.

2503
02:05:35.359 --> 02:05:37.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying I believe it at all, because I

2504
02:05:37.680 --> 02:05:39.000
<v Speaker 2>was all so gay for her.

2505
02:05:39.960 --> 02:05:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, yeah, dude, I would you you'd see

2506
02:05:42.880 --> 02:05:45.960
<v Speaker 1>a shift, You'd see a shift. Just throwing it out there.

2507
02:05:47.880 --> 02:05:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

2508
02:05:48.800 --> 02:05:49.039
<v Speaker 3>There.

2509
02:05:49.119 --> 02:05:51.960
<v Speaker 2>There is some people on the Internet that are saying

2510
02:05:52.000 --> 02:05:54.640
<v Speaker 2>that all of this is to dissuade us from looking

2511
02:05:54.680 --> 02:05:58.039
<v Speaker 2>between Candas's legs, because apparently she's a man, and it's

2512
02:05:58.319 --> 02:06:00.720
<v Speaker 2>it's all the sleight of hand, it's all it's like.

2513
02:06:00.880 --> 02:06:03.439
<v Speaker 1>In this day and age. I don't even know if

2514
02:06:03.439 --> 02:06:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I would be I would I would be colored somewhat shocked,

2515
02:06:06.880 --> 02:06:08.159
<v Speaker 1>but not entirely shocked.

2516
02:06:08.640 --> 02:06:08.800
<v Speaker 5>Bro.

2517
02:06:09.000 --> 02:06:11.399
<v Speaker 2>Never mind the fact that she has a bunch of kids,

2518
02:06:11.439 --> 02:06:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Like she was pregnant for like five years off and on,

2519
02:06:14.520 --> 02:06:17.119
<v Speaker 2>and there's tons of pictures and like it's she like

2520
02:06:18.720 --> 02:06:20.760
<v Speaker 2>that would take a lot more doing as far as

2521
02:06:20.840 --> 02:06:23.159
<v Speaker 2>trying to keep up a narrative that she's actually a

2522
02:06:23.159 --> 02:06:25.439
<v Speaker 2>man that was pretending to be pregnant in this, that

2523
02:06:25.479 --> 02:06:27.920
<v Speaker 2>and the third. And I've also heard people say that

2524
02:06:27.920 --> 02:06:31.600
<v Speaker 2>that might be the reason why she is Before I

2525
02:06:31.640 --> 02:06:34.199
<v Speaker 2>say this to all the good Lady cult members out there,

2526
02:06:34.199 --> 02:06:35.960
<v Speaker 2>please don't come after Jacob.

2527
02:06:35.960 --> 02:06:37.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm repeating what other.

2528
02:06:37.199 --> 02:06:40.560
<v Speaker 2>People on the UH in the talking head space and

2529
02:06:40.600 --> 02:06:43.880
<v Speaker 2>the conspiracy and the podcasting game have said this is

2530
02:06:43.920 --> 02:06:47.079
<v Speaker 2>not Jacob's opinion, but some people are saying that because

2531
02:06:47.319 --> 02:06:50.239
<v Speaker 2>someone she's like four kids, Like, she's been pregnant for

2532
02:06:50.279 --> 02:06:53.199
<v Speaker 2>like five years, for a majority of those five years,

2533
02:06:53.560 --> 02:06:55.920
<v Speaker 2>and when you look at the amount of hormones and

2534
02:06:56.000 --> 02:06:58.359
<v Speaker 2>the amount of mental stress that puts you in and

2535
02:06:58.399 --> 02:07:00.880
<v Speaker 2>postpartum and all these things, and you couple that with

2536
02:07:00.920 --> 02:07:02.920
<v Speaker 2>the fact that she just lost one of her alleged

2537
02:07:02.960 --> 02:07:05.800
<v Speaker 2>best friends and all these things, that might be why

2538
02:07:05.880 --> 02:07:08.439
<v Speaker 2>she's lost her goddamn mind when it comes to all

2539
02:07:08.479 --> 02:07:09.800
<v Speaker 2>these things about Charlie Kirk.

2540
02:07:10.279 --> 02:07:12.319
<v Speaker 3>I am not saying that I agree with that narrative.

2541
02:07:12.880 --> 02:07:15.199
<v Speaker 2>I have heard more than a few people claim that

2542
02:07:15.199 --> 02:07:17.760
<v Speaker 2>that is why she has gone off the fucking rails

2543
02:07:17.800 --> 02:07:18.359
<v Speaker 2>with this one.

2544
02:07:18.960 --> 02:07:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, hormones will definitely, you know, fuck with your

2545
02:07:21.840 --> 02:07:24.119
<v Speaker 1>brain a little bit and fuck with your thoughts. Takes

2546
02:07:24.159 --> 02:07:24.840
<v Speaker 1>a woman like.

2547
02:07:24.800 --> 02:07:27.319
<v Speaker 2>Two to three years to level back off to normal

2548
02:07:27.399 --> 02:07:28.279
<v Speaker 2>after one child.

2549
02:07:29.319 --> 02:07:32.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm not gonna put that on her. I mean,

2550
02:07:32.159 --> 02:07:35.479
<v Speaker 1>it's entirely possible. But I don't know. There's something in

2551
02:07:35.479 --> 02:07:38.680
<v Speaker 1>me that just I see the fire in Candace, you know,

2552
02:07:38.800 --> 02:07:41.680
<v Speaker 1>like I see that fire in her, and I don't

2553
02:07:41.680 --> 02:07:44.279
<v Speaker 1>think that she's just grifting. But I don't think she's

2554
02:07:44.319 --> 02:07:46.439
<v Speaker 1>just grifting with any of it, to be honest with you. Now,

2555
02:07:46.439 --> 02:07:50.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe she's misled. Maybe maybe she got you know, poisoned

2556
02:07:51.159 --> 02:07:54.439
<v Speaker 1>kind of information or something like that. But she comes

2557
02:07:54.479 --> 02:07:57.439
<v Speaker 1>across the sincere to me and like, and I don't know,

2558
02:07:57.479 --> 02:08:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I've been fooled before, you know where all fucking human.

2559
02:08:01.239 --> 02:08:05.760
<v Speaker 1>But like, to me, she I can see that fire.

2560
02:08:05.880 --> 02:08:08.840
<v Speaker 1>She has that fire that like we have whenever we're

2561
02:08:08.880 --> 02:08:10.800
<v Speaker 1>going down the rabbit hole and we're like, oh my god,

2562
02:08:11.039 --> 02:08:14.199
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe this. This is crazy information. The proof

2563
02:08:14.279 --> 02:08:17.479
<v Speaker 1>is right there, Like, I see that fire in her,

2564
02:08:17.760 --> 02:08:20.399
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. And she seems very motivated.

2565
02:08:20.600 --> 02:08:24.359
<v Speaker 1>And maybe it's motivated by money. Maybe it's motivated by

2566
02:08:24.720 --> 02:08:27.960
<v Speaker 1>disseminating information out there to just flood the conspiracy market

2567
02:08:28.000 --> 02:08:31.760
<v Speaker 1>to look at this conspiracy not all the other conspiracies. Maybe,

2568
02:08:32.079 --> 02:08:35.680
<v Speaker 1>but like that type of motivation is clear and obvious

2569
02:08:35.760 --> 02:08:39.399
<v Speaker 1>to me. I'm a fan. I don't I don't think

2570
02:08:39.399 --> 02:08:40.479
<v Speaker 1>that she's a grifter at all.

2571
02:08:41.359 --> 02:08:44.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm a fan of her to a point. I had

2572
02:08:44.359 --> 02:08:46.319
<v Speaker 2>been a fan of her for a very long time.

2573
02:08:46.720 --> 02:08:49.479
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, you could also see how she was

2574
02:08:49.600 --> 02:08:52.439
<v Speaker 2>all about Obama then jumped on the bandwagging as like

2575
02:08:52.600 --> 02:08:56.039
<v Speaker 2>a big conservative talking head. For a good long while

2576
02:08:56.119 --> 02:08:58.600
<v Speaker 2>she got associated with turning points. She got associated with

2577
02:08:59.039 --> 02:09:04.319
<v Speaker 2>was a daily wire, the Blaze or whatever, No doubt,

2578
02:09:04.319 --> 02:09:07.319
<v Speaker 2>no doubt. And I'm not saying that I distrusted her

2579
02:09:07.760 --> 02:09:09.199
<v Speaker 2>when this was going on. There were a lot of

2580
02:09:09.199 --> 02:09:11.960
<v Speaker 2>people that claim that they just distrusted her, because that's

2581
02:09:12.000 --> 02:09:14.439
<v Speaker 2>all she is. She's jumping on where she sees the

2582
02:09:14.439 --> 02:09:18.039
<v Speaker 2>biggest possibility for money, right and and I can understand

2583
02:09:18.079 --> 02:09:18.600
<v Speaker 2>that point.

2584
02:09:18.920 --> 02:09:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with it, at least not then.

2585
02:09:22.439 --> 02:09:24.600
<v Speaker 2>And when it comes to Brigitte, I don't think that

2586
02:09:24.680 --> 02:09:26.920
<v Speaker 2>she really had a dog in the fight. Like, she's

2587
02:09:26.920 --> 02:09:30.159
<v Speaker 2>not French, she has no allegiances to France or to

2588
02:09:30.279 --> 02:09:33.039
<v Speaker 2>France's enemies or anything like that. So her calling out Brigitte,

2589
02:09:33.560 --> 02:09:36.760
<v Speaker 2>she stood to gain nothing from that other than some

2590
02:09:36.840 --> 02:09:39.560
<v Speaker 2>great content and the clicks and the likes and all that,

2591
02:09:39.600 --> 02:09:41.439
<v Speaker 2>which I mean, that's what content creators do. And I

2592
02:09:41.439 --> 02:09:45.399
<v Speaker 2>could I could at least respect that to a degree.

2593
02:09:45.560 --> 02:09:48.039
<v Speaker 2>That the Kirk thing is where she started to go sideways,

2594
02:09:48.119 --> 02:09:51.159
<v Speaker 2>and not just because of her claims about Israel, I

2595
02:09:51.199 --> 02:09:52.880
<v Speaker 2>know people are gonna say that that's why I have

2596
02:09:52.920 --> 02:09:55.840
<v Speaker 2>such an opinion on this one. There was that, don't

2597
02:09:55.840 --> 02:09:59.000
<v Speaker 2>get me wrong, but that wasn't where she really lost me.

2598
02:09:59.479 --> 02:10:01.279
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot a lot of the claims that she made

2599
02:10:01.840 --> 02:10:05.319
<v Speaker 2>without giving her sources. And even with that being said,

2600
02:10:05.359 --> 02:10:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I can understand why you want to keep some of

2601
02:10:06.960 --> 02:10:10.399
<v Speaker 2>your sources quiet, right because maybe they're in a position

2602
02:10:10.439 --> 02:10:13.520
<v Speaker 2>where if you say who they are, they could lose

2603
02:10:13.520 --> 02:10:15.079
<v Speaker 2>their job and then they lose a source.

2604
02:10:15.079 --> 02:10:16.840
<v Speaker 3>And like, okay, I can understand that to a point.

2605
02:10:17.600 --> 02:10:21.279
<v Speaker 2>It is the frequency at which she has given no

2606
02:10:21.479 --> 02:10:25.000
<v Speaker 2>basis to back her claims for so long in regards

2607
02:10:25.039 --> 02:10:28.199
<v Speaker 2>to this one thing, for the longest time, and even

2608
02:10:28.239 --> 02:10:30.079
<v Speaker 2>with the Charlie Kirk stuff, there's certain stuff that she

2609
02:10:30.119 --> 02:10:32.439
<v Speaker 2>has come out with about it that I can't agree with,

2610
02:10:33.000 --> 02:10:36.520
<v Speaker 2>absolutely can There's other things where whenever she's not talking

2611
02:10:36.520 --> 02:10:40.800
<v Speaker 2>about verifiable, sourced, proofed information, where it's like, Okay, let's

2612
02:10:40.800 --> 02:10:43.640
<v Speaker 2>see where you're going with this. I don't dislike her.

2613
02:10:43.840 --> 02:10:46.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't hate her, I don't distrust her

2614
02:10:46.680 --> 02:10:51.039
<v Speaker 2>or anything like that. I honestly see her as a

2615
02:10:51.359 --> 02:10:55.359
<v Speaker 2>person who is grieving the loss of somebody that they loved,

2616
02:10:55.640 --> 02:10:57.720
<v Speaker 2>at least in some regard. I'm not saying like romantically

2617
02:10:57.760 --> 02:10:59.520
<v Speaker 2>and nothing like that, but I'm like saying like she

2618
02:10:59.640 --> 02:11:03.279
<v Speaker 2>had for Charlie, Like that's not a secret. And although

2619
02:11:03.279 --> 02:11:05.399
<v Speaker 2>they may not have agreed on every single point, ever,

2620
02:11:06.600 --> 02:11:10.199
<v Speaker 2>they were friends and they were close for years.

2621
02:11:10.880 --> 02:11:13.399
<v Speaker 1>And even if they hadn't, let's say that they.

2622
02:11:13.279 --> 02:11:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Had fallen out of favor with each other and they

2623
02:11:15.039 --> 02:11:18.079
<v Speaker 2>hadn't talked in two years, which that's not a true statement.

2624
02:11:18.119 --> 02:11:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm giving a hypothetical here. And you find out that

2625
02:11:21.000 --> 02:11:24.680
<v Speaker 2>that friend of yours was brutally murdered in front of people,

2626
02:11:25.319 --> 02:11:27.920
<v Speaker 2>and that the internet made as many means as they

2627
02:11:27.920 --> 02:11:31.760
<v Speaker 2>did about and all that, and you're grieving. I could

2628
02:11:31.840 --> 02:11:35.199
<v Speaker 2>appreciate that, I really can. I don't think that that

2629
02:11:35.359 --> 02:11:38.560
<v Speaker 2>discredits her. I think that some of her claims have

2630
02:11:38.680 --> 02:11:42.680
<v Speaker 2>put her credibility into question. But the fire in her

2631
02:11:42.720 --> 02:11:45.279
<v Speaker 2>eyes that you're talking about, I see it too, And

2632
02:11:45.640 --> 02:11:47.359
<v Speaker 2>there is a level of respect to be put there,

2633
02:11:47.439 --> 02:11:47.800
<v Speaker 2>for sure.

2634
02:11:48.000 --> 02:11:50.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's one of the things is that you know,

2635
02:11:50.680 --> 02:11:53.439
<v Speaker 1>one thing that I got to give credit to some people, like,

2636
02:11:53.760 --> 02:11:56.279
<v Speaker 1>no matter how much we disagree with them, just the

2637
02:11:56.720 --> 02:12:00.760
<v Speaker 1>fact that they're being true to themselves and true to

2638
02:12:00.840 --> 02:12:04.159
<v Speaker 1>what they believe and truly genuine Like even I don't

2639
02:12:04.520 --> 02:12:07.800
<v Speaker 1>y'all know, I do not like Nick Fouents, but I

2640
02:12:07.840 --> 02:12:11.680
<v Speaker 1>can appreciate that, like he genuinely believes the bullshit that

2641
02:12:11.720 --> 02:12:13.960
<v Speaker 1>he says, you know what I'm saying, Like, there's some

2642
02:12:14.159 --> 02:12:15.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of credit you got to give to that.

2643
02:12:17.319 --> 02:12:19.239
<v Speaker 3>I honestly can't tell with him if he's drifting or

2644
02:12:19.279 --> 02:12:20.000
<v Speaker 3>if he believes it.

2645
02:12:20.039 --> 02:12:22.279
<v Speaker 1>I think he believes it. He recently went on Tucker

2646
02:12:22.319 --> 02:12:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Crosson and I can't stand him. He Like just the

2647
02:12:24.680 --> 02:12:27.840
<v Speaker 1>look of him makes my fucking skin crawl. But at

2648
02:12:27.920 --> 02:12:32.039
<v Speaker 1>least he believes it, you know, Like, I don't know, he's.

2649
02:12:31.920 --> 02:12:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Like the new Andrew Taate dude, He's just saying the

2650
02:12:34.800 --> 02:12:37.800
<v Speaker 2>most outlandis shit for clicks, and instead of being about

2651
02:12:37.840 --> 02:12:40.560
<v Speaker 2>like alpha male dominance, he's just about like white dominance.

2652
02:12:40.720 --> 02:12:41.880
<v Speaker 2>That's what I could tell from him.

2653
02:12:42.399 --> 02:12:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's going pretty he's getting pretty fucking close to

2654
02:12:47.119 --> 02:12:48.800
<v Speaker 1>like Nazi shit.

2655
02:12:49.640 --> 02:12:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh No, He's straight up told Candace to her face

2656
02:12:53.000 --> 02:12:56.159
<v Speaker 2>that he believes that black people are subpar to white

2657
02:12:56.159 --> 02:12:59.319
<v Speaker 2>people genetically speaking, Like he talked about how it was

2658
02:12:59.359 --> 02:13:01.279
<v Speaker 2>like Nate versus nurture and all this.

2659
02:13:01.359 --> 02:13:02.319
<v Speaker 3>He's like, listen, I.

2660
02:13:02.239 --> 02:13:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Know a lot of people are gonna tell you that

2661
02:13:03.880 --> 02:13:06.439
<v Speaker 2>it's probably nurture and it's just the cultural But I

2662
02:13:06.479 --> 02:13:08.359
<v Speaker 2>think a lot more of that is nature than what

2663
02:13:08.399 --> 02:13:10.279
<v Speaker 2>we really give it credit for. I mean, when the

2664
02:13:10.279 --> 02:13:12.600
<v Speaker 2>white people got to Africa, they didn't even have the

2665
02:13:12.600 --> 02:13:17.800
<v Speaker 2>invention of the wheel. It's like, that's that's incorrect. But like, okay, homie.

2666
02:13:17.359 --> 02:13:19.159
<v Speaker 1>They didn't even have a written language.

2667
02:13:19.760 --> 02:13:23.760
<v Speaker 2>They did in sub Saharan Africa, multiple tribes had written language.

2668
02:13:23.800 --> 02:13:26.439
<v Speaker 1>Like what the fuck are you talking about, dude. Yeah,

2669
02:13:26.439 --> 02:13:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying he's not a fucking retard, and it

2670
02:13:29.359 --> 02:13:33.119
<v Speaker 1>absolutely is and a racist and all the negative things.

2671
02:13:33.399 --> 02:13:34.640
<v Speaker 1>But but I guess that's true.

2672
02:13:34.640 --> 02:13:36.439
<v Speaker 2>If he was doing that for the Grifters side of it,

2673
02:13:36.520 --> 02:13:38.199
<v Speaker 2>he would have at least tried to lean into that

2674
02:13:38.239 --> 02:13:38.960
<v Speaker 2>in a different light.

2675
02:13:39.039 --> 02:13:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you're right.

2676
02:13:39.920 --> 02:13:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I think he believes the dumb shit that he's saying.

2677
02:13:42.840 --> 02:13:45.399
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying, And I actually I'm more inclined

2678
02:13:45.439 --> 02:13:48.239
<v Speaker 1>to see the fire, like the actual genuine fire in

2679
02:13:48.319 --> 02:13:52.880
<v Speaker 1>him and in Candae. And I don't necessarily believe Tucker

2680
02:13:52.960 --> 02:13:56.119
<v Speaker 1>Carlson with a lot of you know that kind of energy.

2681
02:13:56.159 --> 02:14:00.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily believed Alex Jones even fully with that

2682
02:14:00.159 --> 02:14:03.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of being genuine.

2683
02:14:04.199 --> 02:14:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I like Tucker Carlson for a good long while, but

2684
02:14:07.000 --> 02:14:11.760
<v Speaker 2>then watching him suck vlads or flat Jesus Christ, watching

2685
02:14:11.800 --> 02:14:15.279
<v Speaker 2>him suck Putin's dick to the level that he did,

2686
02:14:16.439 --> 02:14:19.000
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, okay, going in there and getting an

2687
02:14:19.000 --> 02:14:23.720
<v Speaker 2>interview with Vladimir Putin and cool, all right, you got

2688
02:14:23.760 --> 02:14:27.000
<v Speaker 2>the interview that every news anchor has been dreaming of getting.

2689
02:14:27.079 --> 02:14:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Kudos to you for that, all right, And with that,

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<v Speaker 2>you come back and you legitimately say that America is

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<v Speaker 2>at war with Russia, and like you believe that Russia

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02:14:37.239 --> 02:14:39.319
<v Speaker 2>is fighting for their life when they're the ones that

2693
02:14:39.399 --> 02:14:42.640
<v Speaker 2>invaded Ukraine. And like, yo, yes, I understand there was

2694
02:14:42.680 --> 02:14:44.600
<v Speaker 2>geopolitical things on the back end that led to this.

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02:14:44.800 --> 02:14:47.960
<v Speaker 2>I get that, But America is not at war with Russia.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a crazy fucking statement to make, and he

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<v Speaker 2>believes it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what, dude. One thing that I've been

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<v Speaker 1>finding that I find very peculiar is there seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be certain people that go and make their rounds with

2701
02:15:03.760 --> 02:15:07.439
<v Speaker 1>all of the top kind of podcasts out there, you know,

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02:15:07.520 --> 02:15:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and I find it very strange, Like, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Charlie Sheen is an exception because he was trying

2704
02:15:13.600 --> 02:15:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to promote a book. Okay, Charlie Sheen went on Everybody's

2705
02:15:15.920 --> 02:15:18.319
<v Speaker 1>fucking show trying to promote a book. Whatever. That's fine.

2706
02:15:18.479 --> 02:15:20.960
<v Speaker 1>But whenever you start to see the same people being

2707
02:15:21.000 --> 02:15:24.640
<v Speaker 1>interviewed by by Joe Rogan, by Theo Vaughn, by PbD,

2708
02:15:25.279 --> 02:15:29.760
<v Speaker 1>by you know, Tucker Carlson, it's like by by two Bears,

2709
02:15:29.800 --> 02:15:32.640
<v Speaker 1>one Cave, It's like, what the fuck, Like, what is

2710
02:15:32.680 --> 02:15:35.199
<v Speaker 1>really going on here? Like, and it's all it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like even a year that's spread apart you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>All of these shows are all happening within the same month,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're all interviewing the same exact people within the

2714
02:15:44.479 --> 02:15:49.359
<v Speaker 1>same month. I'm like, something's weird about that. Something's really

2715
02:15:49.399 --> 02:15:52.680
<v Speaker 1>fucking weird about that. Yes and no, yes and no.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about it like this, if a new movie was

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<v Speaker 2>being released, not right now, because most people don't actually

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02:15:57.399 --> 02:15:58.680
<v Speaker 2>go to the movies and watch that anymore.

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02:15:58.680 --> 02:16:00.079
<v Speaker 1>They just wait for it to be released on the

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<v Speaker 1>rokus or whatever.

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02:16:00.880 --> 02:16:04.720
<v Speaker 2>But like, take it ten years ago, some new Marvel

2722
02:16:04.800 --> 02:16:07.720
<v Speaker 2>movie is about to be dropped. Right, You're gonna see

2723
02:16:07.800 --> 02:16:13.079
<v Speaker 2>Robert Downey Junior go to every fucking entertainment outlet and

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<v Speaker 2>give interviews.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was to promote the movie, and I can't

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<v Speaker 2>understand that. But it was about like what was hot

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<v Speaker 2>at that moment. We are in a new age where

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<v Speaker 2>what's hot based upon what the algorithm says is hot.

2730
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<v Speaker 2>So like, for instance, Wes Huff when he shut down

2731
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<v Speaker 2>Billy Carson.

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<v Speaker 3>You notice that he for like three months was going on.

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<v Speaker 2>All of these big podcasts and shit like that, and

2734
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<v Speaker 2>they had all these people like asking him to come

2735
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<v Speaker 2>debate them. He had to give a statement like listen, y'all,

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<v Speaker 2>I am booked solid for the next six months. Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that I don't want to debate you. I

2738
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<v Speaker 2>physically can't unless you're bigger than Rogan. I will reschedule

2739
02:16:52.239 --> 02:16:54.479
<v Speaker 2>some things. Other than that, I'm sorry, like I will

2740
02:16:54.479 --> 02:16:56.760
<v Speaker 2>put you on the list whatever whatever. But that's the thing.

2741
02:16:56.799 --> 02:16:58.959
<v Speaker 2>It was like, that's what the internet. Saul was hot

2742
02:16:58.959 --> 02:17:02.079
<v Speaker 2>in that moment. He goes on Flagrant, he goes on

2743
02:17:02.399 --> 02:17:04.799
<v Speaker 2>Joe Rogan, he goes on PbD, he goes on these things,

2744
02:17:04.840 --> 02:17:07.200
<v Speaker 2>and like he made his circuit because the Internet was

2745
02:17:07.239 --> 02:17:09.159
<v Speaker 2>saying that that was what was hot at that moment.

2746
02:17:09.760 --> 02:17:12.799
<v Speaker 2>Same shit when it comes to conspiratorial things. Same thing

2747
02:17:12.840 --> 02:17:17.040
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the political politics and the celebrities

2748
02:17:17.079 --> 02:17:19.600
<v Speaker 2>and all these things. It's no longer having a sit

2749
02:17:19.639 --> 02:17:22.079
<v Speaker 2>down interview to discuss the new movie that you're having

2750
02:17:22.120 --> 02:17:26.479
<v Speaker 2>released on E Entertainment. It's going on to these comics

2751
02:17:26.520 --> 02:17:28.040
<v Speaker 2>podcasts to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Your new book, your new movie, whatever the case is.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of see a little bit.

2754
02:17:31.520 --> 02:17:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I gotta throw Andrew Schultz's name in on that too.

2755
02:17:33.600 --> 02:17:36.000
<v Speaker 1>He's definitely a part of that circuit that keeps on

2756
02:17:36.079 --> 02:17:39.079
<v Speaker 1>interviewing the same fucking people that are going on Rogan,

2757
02:17:39.120 --> 02:17:41.399
<v Speaker 1>that are going on PbD, that are going on Sean Ryan,

2758
02:17:41.479 --> 02:17:44.559
<v Speaker 1>that are going on Tucker Carlson. It's the fucking dude.

2759
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<v Speaker 1>It's like, it's like a merry girl round is What's

2760
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I I find it, to be honest

2761
02:17:51.399 --> 02:17:53.520
<v Speaker 1>with you, No, I do too. And I like the

2762
02:17:53.559 --> 02:17:56.319
<v Speaker 1>majority of the people that I just named, Like, I'm

2763
02:17:56.360 --> 02:18:00.920
<v Speaker 1>just saying, it's kind of a weird trend that I've noticed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think that there's more to that than

2765
02:18:04.079 --> 02:18:06.200
<v Speaker 2>what meets the eye. But I think that a lot

2766
02:18:06.200 --> 02:18:08.600
<v Speaker 2>of that is more algorithm based than it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe it's just harmless as that maybe I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, possibly, or is this a way to make the

2769
02:18:14.719 --> 02:18:16.120
<v Speaker 2>algorithm push that harder.

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<v Speaker 1>Could be a bit of that too, a little bit

2771
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<v Speaker 1>of both. I could see both. I don't know. Look

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<v Speaker 1>Good cult members, tell us what you think about Brigitte

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<v Speaker 1>or Jean Michelle, tell us what you think about whatever

2774
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<v Speaker 1>that is going on with that. Do we have another

2775
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<v Speaker 1>big mic situation? Because it smells like it, it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like it, and if it walks like a duck and

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<v Speaker 1>it quacks like a duck, I think there's a dick

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of different ways that you can reach out to

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<v Speaker 2>think about. Brigitte Macron aka Jean Michelle track, No is

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<v Speaker 2>this crazy? Is it based in reality? Is canas Owen's

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<v Speaker 2>about to pay. Are the Macrones about to pay? Is

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<v Speaker 2>never gonna hear anything about it in about six months.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to hear from you, good cult members. Let

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<v Speaker 1>He's already gone and done so. And with that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>this was another beautiful episode of the cults of conspiracy

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