1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,879 Speaker 1: And that's why I never read the comment. I'm like, 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:04,839 I just want to like, I'm not even going to 3 00:00:04,919 --> 00:00:06,000 look amazing tonight. 4 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 2: I love what you're wearing, a Holly sandwich. 5 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're all I have an angry clown. 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,440 That is life. But that's hard, like unless it's like 7 00:00:16,679 --> 00:00:17,559 NBA team. 8 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: Or something like. 9 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,879 Speaker 1: Whoa, hello, everybody, Welcome back to Holly Randall unfiltered. I 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,000 am back in my studio for one of the very 11 00:00:28,039 --> 00:00:30,879 last times because I am so excited that I'm going 12 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,119 to be moving into a new studio so I can't 13 00:00:33,119 --> 00:00:35,280 wait to show you guys that space. 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So if you're a 31 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,640 fan who wants to meet some new fun people, or 32 00:01:32,719 --> 00:01:36,280 if you're a model who's looking to kickstart your cammon career, 33 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,519 go give them a try and make sure that you 34 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:45,480 go follow them on Instagram. It's scworld dot Official. Okay, 35 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,120 so my guest today is a multi award winning trans 36 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,760 performer with over two hundred scenes under her belt, fresh 37 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,040 off of a major XMA win and currently nominated across 38 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,239 multiple categories at the trans Erotica Awards in I think 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,840 two weeks. But behind the accolades is somebody who's entered 40 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,680 the industry young, learned fast, and built a career through skill, resilience, 41 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,360 and range. Today we're talking growth, craft, chaos on set, 42 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,199 and what it actually takes to last. Welcome the beautiful 43 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:21,719 Jade Venus to the show. Hi, Hi Jade, I'm very 44 00:02:21,759 --> 00:02:22,560 excited to have you here. 45 00:02:23,039 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: I'm excited for you to have me. 46 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,479 Speaker 1: Every time I've had the opportunity to interview you on 47 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,400 the Red Carpet, You've always been not only like one 48 00:02:30,439 --> 00:02:34,360 of the most stunning creatures on the carpet. Oh, I 49 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,960 won't stop. You're going to get so many compliments today. 50 00:02:37,599 --> 00:02:38,879 You're not gonna be able to fit your head out 51 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,919 of the door. All right, I'll take it. But you're 52 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,280 also like really funny. You know, You've got a great 53 00:02:44,319 --> 00:02:48,639 sense of humor, and I always really enjoy interviewing you. 54 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,960 You're usually with Ariel, who of course, wow, we're bad. Answer. 55 00:02:52,319 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: We like to bounce off each other. Yes, it's real 56 00:02:54,719 --> 00:02:55,759 crazy stock I know. 57 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: Which is great. We love that. But I was like, 58 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,000 I got to give her her own hour. I get 59 00:03:01,039 --> 00:03:06,000 to sit down with just Jade, get her to myself today. Ariel, Sorry, 60 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,919 you can have her back after this. So I'm excited 61 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,759 to have you here. So I guess let's start from 62 00:03:11,759 --> 00:03:14,360 the beginning, as we often do here on the show. 63 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,039 You're originally from Montana, So what was your life like 64 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,840 before the industry and how different is it now? 65 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: Oh, it's just dreadful. I don't know. If you've ever 66 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,000 been to Montana, oh god, don't unless you want to 67 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,639 go in like the summer and do like a little 68 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,879 camping moment in Glacier. It's fab But yeah, I grew 69 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:35,199 up in like a really small town called Malta. Montana 70 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,159 is just full of hicks, real crazy stuff. And I 71 00:03:40,199 --> 00:03:42,039 moved out of there and went to Missoula at like 72 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,199 twelve or something. 73 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: That's like the cool place in Montana. 74 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: Yes, Missoula is like the hippy area. It's the little 75 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,879 little blue dot if you will. We had like three 76 00:03:50,919 --> 00:03:52,919 high schools there. The high school I went to it 77 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,159 was called Hellgate. Wait for real, Hellgate. It was the 78 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,240 artsy one that all the gays went too. Okay, but yeah, 79 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,039 it was it was whatever, a lot of bullying. I 80 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,560 came out as trans. Came out as trans at twelve, 81 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,800 so Montana wasn't used to that. It was kind of 82 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,560 a lot for them. But yeah, I had a trans 83 00:04:11,639 --> 00:04:15,360 friend growing up, and also my friend Tori Easton, we 84 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,600 grew up together, came out at the same time. We're 85 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,800 both She's not from Montana, but she moved there. Oh god, 86 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:22,199 I don't know. 87 00:04:22,199 --> 00:04:22,399 Speaker 1: When. 88 00:04:22,439 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: But we met in middle school and yeah, if I 89 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,079 didn't have her, girl, I would have been fucked. Montana 90 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:31,240 was tough, but yeah, the moment I turned eighteen, I 91 00:04:31,319 --> 00:04:36,399 fled to San Luis Obispo first, and then La. 92 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: Why is San Luis Obispo? Did you go to college 93 00:04:37,879 --> 00:04:38,199 out there? 94 00:04:38,399 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: No? So, I had this like crazy abusive ex boyfriend 95 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,160 in Montana and he did some crazy things, got arrested, 96 00:04:46,319 --> 00:04:50,920 tried to kill me. Whatever, You're like, whatever, It's fine. 97 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,600 He got what he deserved. He's still in prison. Wonderful. 98 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,720 But yeah, I was really wanting to move to California 99 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:01,839 and I was talking to this client on seeking a ring. 100 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,160 Oh yeah, me too, girl, that's what paid my bills 101 00:05:04,199 --> 00:05:06,639 in high school. Yeah, I was talking to this client 102 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,759 and he offered to like move me there and live 103 00:05:10,079 --> 00:05:12,839 his live in horror for a little bit, if you will. 104 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,040 So yeah, I went and stayed with him for like 105 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,920 three months, and then I, uh, there were some disagreements, 106 00:05:19,959 --> 00:05:23,000 if you will. So yeah, I got my own apartment. 107 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: Were you scared to move on? 108 00:05:24,519 --> 00:05:28,199 Speaker 2: Oh no, No, he was very docile. He was just 109 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:33,560 a very sweet man. Oh god, But yeah, I moved 110 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,879 into college housing over there. Cal Poly, so I like 111 00:05:36,959 --> 00:05:38,839 hung out with the college kids and like worked at 112 00:05:38,879 --> 00:05:43,560 Apracrompie and like pretended I did college, and then COVID happened, 113 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,639 so it was just fun. Girl. There was this nude 114 00:05:45,639 --> 00:05:48,120 beach down there called Pirate's Cove. I don't know if 115 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,959 you've heard of that. We'd go down there and get 116 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,560 wasted on some what are they called alcohol? Seltzer? Oh, 117 00:05:54,959 --> 00:05:59,439 like white a white CLOTHA is my time? I tried 118 00:05:59,480 --> 00:05:59,879 to zema. 119 00:06:00,079 --> 00:06:03,199 Speaker 1: Zemo was the drink like back when I was in college, 120 00:06:03,199 --> 00:06:04,160 which was a long time ago. 121 00:06:04,199 --> 00:06:05,519 Speaker 2: I'll have to do a little research. 122 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: I don't even know if they sell it anymore. 123 00:06:07,199 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: Oh, I'll find it, Okay. 124 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Zema. I think Zema was our version of 125 00:06:11,399 --> 00:06:12,480 white claw back in the day. 126 00:06:12,879 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't partake in the Devil's liquid anymore, but 127 00:06:15,959 --> 00:06:17,439 it's fun to sample here and there. 128 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,079 Speaker 1: Okay. So you said it was rough growing up in 129 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,959 Montana and you came out at trans at twelve, Like 130 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,160 what did that look like? Did you talk to your 131 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,199 parents first or like? How did that go? 132 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 2: My dad was never around, so he wouldn't have liked it, 133 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,000 but who cares? But my mom was so supportive very 134 00:06:37,199 --> 00:06:39,079 She kind of figured when I came out. She's like, oh, 135 00:06:39,079 --> 00:06:40,920 this because I came out as gay for like literally 136 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,560 two months, and then I found out what trans was 137 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,600 online and she's like, yeah, this makes more sense. So 138 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,240 she's a fun biker lady, so she thought it was cool. 139 00:06:51,639 --> 00:06:53,639 Getting hormones was a bitch though, Like I came out 140 00:06:53,639 --> 00:06:57,720 at twelve, didn't get hormones for like a year because 141 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:02,079 insurance wouldn't cover it and we didn't make the most money. 142 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,720 So yeah, Montana was a little strict, but the hormones, 143 00:07:04,759 --> 00:07:06,800 and I hear they're not giving hormones to children anymore 144 00:07:06,879 --> 00:07:07,920 in certain states. 145 00:07:08,199 --> 00:07:10,319 Speaker 1: Yeah I lucked out, I guess. Yeah. I mean there's 146 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:15,480 a lot of controversy around that. Obviously, clearly you felt 147 00:07:15,519 --> 00:07:16,600 it was the right choice for you. 148 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 149 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,279 Speaker 1: Was there ever a moment where you weren't sure or 150 00:07:20,319 --> 00:07:22,240 you doubted it. You just knew absolutely. 151 00:07:22,439 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: I can't speak for anyone else, but girl, I came 152 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,800 out of the womb cross dressing. I was like four 153 00:07:26,879 --> 00:07:29,920 in my I'd asked my grandma for dresses and stuff. 154 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,160 Loved my grandma, she was fabulous. But yeah, girl, I knew, Yeah, 155 00:07:34,199 --> 00:07:36,000 you couldn't tell me nothing. 156 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it wasn't like a phase is some people 157 00:07:38,399 --> 00:07:39,879 like said is for people any. 158 00:07:39,879 --> 00:07:43,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the therapy was like really extensive, took a 159 00:07:43,399 --> 00:07:46,639 year to get hormones, so like, yeah, I can't I 160 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,800 once again, I can't speak for anyone else, but it 161 00:07:48,839 --> 00:07:52,120 was the best decision for me, right, I probably wouldn't 162 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,319 be here now if I couldn't come out around that time. 163 00:07:54,839 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: And being able to transition early was probably helpful in 164 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,319 the tree transition, right, because like if you wait until later, 165 00:08:03,399 --> 00:08:04,160 it's harder to. 166 00:08:04,439 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good to like stop the puberty at a 167 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,680 young age, right, you want to be right, a dapper 168 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:10,720 young lady, I guess. 169 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,439 Speaker 1: So were there any things that were like that you 170 00:08:14,439 --> 00:08:16,839 weren't expecting that were just like physically difficult? 171 00:08:17,519 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: No, not really, Oh, I mean I guess like you 172 00:08:19,839 --> 00:08:21,879 get tired and you lose all your muscle mass. But 173 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,720 I was kind of hoping for that. Yeah, yeah, I 174 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,079 don't know, I guess I was. I still was like 175 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,440 younger on, so I didn't really which physical to begin with. Yeah, 176 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,480 so yeah, I didn't notice too many changes other than 177 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,559 like the skin softening and stuff. 178 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,039 Speaker 1: So yeah, right, right, nothing bad looking back, do you 179 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:42,759 feel like you had to grow up faster than most 180 00:08:42,759 --> 00:08:43,639 people your age. 181 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:46,759 Speaker 2: God, I'm almost kind of a mess back in the day. 182 00:08:46,919 --> 00:08:50,559 She's all good now, but you know, we had it 183 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,799 a little tough. So she went off and did her 184 00:08:53,799 --> 00:08:58,039 own thing. And when I was like sixteen, I had 185 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,399 like the place to myself, and I was getting my 186 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,679 dad's like death money to pay for the run, so 187 00:09:04,759 --> 00:09:07,279 that was fine. But yeah, I had like my besties 188 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,559 move in with me and it was cute. So I 189 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,159 had to grow up very fast, but I I did 190 00:09:13,159 --> 00:09:15,759 with it what I could and it was very fun. Yeah. 191 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,879 Speaker 1: How do you think that that childhood like shapes who 192 00:09:18,879 --> 00:09:20,559 you are today? Like what are some of the traits 193 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,799 that you have? You think like you can actually maybe 194 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,600 thank for a harder childhood. 195 00:09:24,759 --> 00:09:29,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm more resilient for sure, very adaptable, if you will. 196 00:09:29,759 --> 00:09:33,360 I've been through some shit. Not very trusting, but that's 197 00:09:33,399 --> 00:09:34,679 all right, We'll get there. 198 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: That's like one of those things that I kind of 199 00:09:39,639 --> 00:09:41,639 think about, you know, as a mom now, it's like 200 00:09:41,759 --> 00:09:44,399 I want to protect my daughter from everything, yea, and 201 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,720 I want to make sure she has this like really wonderful, 202 00:09:46,799 --> 00:09:49,039 like easy childhood. But then you know, of course there's 203 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,279 things that happen, as with all kids, they have to 204 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:53,679 deal with conflict, appointment or whatever. And I have to 205 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,840 remind myself, like these hard things that you go through 206 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,519 when you're younger, like set you up to be stronger. 207 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,720 I can't like protect her from the world, right, and 208 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,519 then she goes out in the world as an adult 209 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,559 and she's like fully and prepared for it, and you know, 210 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,639 it gets taken advantage of and stuff like that. It's 211 00:10:11,639 --> 00:10:12,639 a hard line to walk. 212 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tricky, but yeah, my life, you're the best 213 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,840 she could. She did great. I will say all my 214 00:10:19,879 --> 00:10:21,879 siblings are doing great. They're fine. 215 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: So are you still close to your family? 216 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I talked to my mom. She lives in 217 00:10:26,279 --> 00:10:30,279 Texas with my brother, and then my sister and other 218 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,159 brother are still in Montana. They're all doing good. My 219 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,000 sister has two d two children, a girl. 220 00:10:36,799 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: And employ So yeah, do you like being an auntie? 221 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,639 Speaker 2: Well, when I get to see them, they don't visit me, 222 00:10:43,879 --> 00:10:46,159 they don't come over to LA, but my sister brings 223 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,879 them ow to Vegas sometime and I'll go and see them. Yeah, 224 00:10:49,879 --> 00:10:50,360 it's fun. 225 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: You've been in the industry now for over four years. 226 00:10:56,879 --> 00:10:58,320 Does it feel does it not feel like that? 227 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,159 Speaker 2: Feels like ten? But yeah, it also I feel like 228 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,279 I've been doing this forever, but also like I'm still new. 229 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:04,960 It's very weird. I don't know. 230 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:08,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, four years is a long time, but then like 231 00:11:08,879 --> 00:11:11,120 in the age of the industry, I guess, I mean, 232 00:11:11,519 --> 00:11:15,320 I've been in for twenty seven years. Oh my god. 233 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,679 So it's like, you know, you think about God, I mean, 234 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,639 that's forever, but I mean it's it's long enough to 235 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:26,519 have You're not a newbie by any means anymore. I guess. 236 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,399 You know, before we go into like specifically questions about 237 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,639 like your the progression of your career, how did you 238 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,639 get into sex work in the first place. 239 00:11:35,039 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 2: Well, well, I started sex work pretty young. That's how 240 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,799 I like, uh, you know, got extra coin to like 241 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:48,720 live comfortably growing up. So I was I was always 242 00:11:48,759 --> 00:11:52,360 doing that, and then when I eventually moved to I was, well, 243 00:11:52,399 --> 00:11:54,600 I was always seeing the clients on seeking arrangements right, 244 00:11:54,639 --> 00:11:57,279 like flying me out right, and half the time they 245 00:11:57,279 --> 00:11:58,759 wouldn't even pay me. It would just be like a 246 00:11:58,759 --> 00:12:02,799 free trip and go. They'd show me around whatever bucking 247 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,039 city they wanted to fly me too. I went to 248 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,480 Milwaukee Ones. It was dreadful. Oh god, it was rainy 249 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,200 and depressing, but I wanted a free trip. 250 00:12:11,399 --> 00:12:14,039 Speaker 1: So and were you did you know that you were 251 00:12:14,279 --> 00:12:15,799 going into it getting a free trip, And was that 252 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:16,320 okay with you? 253 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 254 00:12:17,159 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you were young. 255 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I was young. 256 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: I'll take what I can get. 257 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, when I turned eighteen and moved to San 258 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,399 Luis Obispo, I started working at an Abercrombie. So fun. 259 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:28,360 Loved that job. 260 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I Abercrombie is always really good looking. 261 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well it was very fun because of that, and 262 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,840 we the store I worked at, in particular, we got 263 00:12:36,919 --> 00:12:40,039 encouraged to be kind of bitchy, like really yeah, they 264 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,000 didn't really care, like I'd be on my phone. I 265 00:12:42,039 --> 00:12:45,279 was still very respectful, but we just got to like 266 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:48,639 look pretty. And at County it was fun. But yeah, 267 00:12:48,799 --> 00:12:51,159 so I was. I was working at the Abercrombie and 268 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,639 then I was just webcamming to make extra money because 269 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:58,720 I have expensive taste. Yeah, so yeah, and it just 270 00:12:58,799 --> 00:13:00,879 kind of kicked off from there. I started webcamming and 271 00:13:00,919 --> 00:13:04,759 like three months later, the fans are telling us to 272 00:13:04,759 --> 00:13:09,039 contact Grooby. I'm telling me to contact Grooby. So I 273 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,759 reached out to them, did my first scene, and I 274 00:13:11,799 --> 00:13:14,080 was like, all right, well, I guess that's what we're doing. 275 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,960 I kept well. I shot with Chris Epic, I think 276 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,000 he was my first one, and then he recommended me 277 00:13:19,039 --> 00:13:22,000 to Tom Moore over at Trans Angels and Jim Powers 278 00:13:22,039 --> 00:13:25,960 at Devil's Film, and yeah, I just kind of kicked 279 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:26,919 off really quickly. 280 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: How was camming like for you at the beginning. 281 00:13:29,279 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: Oh, dreadful. I'm not a cam girl. I don't know. 282 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:37,519 I get very bitchy when I'm being asked to do 283 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:42,320 too many things. Yeah, and the fans are where yah. Yeah, 284 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,240 it was fine though. Well, I would go in there 285 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,679 with a goal. I'd sit on there. I'd want to 286 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,720 make a thousand a day, so I'd sit on there 287 00:13:48,799 --> 00:13:50,879 until I made that thousand, and that could be like 288 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,840 two hours or eight hours. 289 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 290 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: That's where I went wrong with it. I burnt myself 291 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,480 out too quick. Yeah, but I always made that thousand. 292 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: Were gonna stick it out? 293 00:14:01,399 --> 00:14:02,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I got into porn. I'm like, oh, 294 00:14:02,879 --> 00:14:06,759 this is much more fun work and getting paid more so. 295 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: Well so the first scene that was with Groovy Yeah, 296 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,240 and who was it with? I believe my first scene 297 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,879 was Chris Epic. Okay, yeah, Chris, I don't I don't 298 00:14:16,919 --> 00:14:18,840 know him. How was it like walk us through? Like 299 00:14:18,879 --> 00:14:20,840 what the scene was like? Were you nervous showing up? 300 00:14:20,879 --> 00:14:25,559 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I didn't know what you expect. Groovy's just 301 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,600 so amazing though, like the all of their people, and 302 00:14:27,639 --> 00:14:30,840 they had this pa there Nikki at the time, and 303 00:14:31,039 --> 00:14:32,720 she was just so fab I don't know. They were 304 00:14:32,799 --> 00:14:35,679 very welcoming and so warm, and I'm so glad I 305 00:14:35,679 --> 00:14:40,039 started with Groovy because everyone's great, but like some of 306 00:14:40,039 --> 00:14:42,600 the bigger sets would have stressed me out. Girl, Yeah, 307 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,240 and the directors yell at each other and shit like, girl, 308 00:14:45,279 --> 00:14:47,080 I could not have done that the first time. Groovy 309 00:14:47,159 --> 00:14:50,600 was so chill. Everyone was so nice, very respectful. We'd 310 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:55,799 got dinner after Oh so yeah, it was a great day. Okay, 311 00:14:55,879 --> 00:14:56,840 I'd fun very easy. 312 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,879 Speaker 1: And then did you like how did the scene itself go? 313 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 2: Oh? 314 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: Really good. 315 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: I learned I was a natural Okay, so I didn't 316 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,320 top yet he just topped me. 317 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what I was gonna ask. 318 00:15:07,879 --> 00:15:09,159 Speaker 2: He's a big, big girl. 319 00:15:09,559 --> 00:15:10,159 Speaker 1: Were you scared? 320 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm not a size queen, that's for sure, 321 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,879 But you know how to use it. It was very fun. 322 00:15:16,519 --> 00:15:18,720 It gave me like energy, I don't know, it was 323 00:15:18,799 --> 00:15:20,279 very exciting. I'm like, this is cool. 324 00:15:20,679 --> 00:15:22,399 Speaker 1: So you did that scene and you're like, Okay, this 325 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,960 is this is what I wanted to know. There was 326 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,200 no like second thoughts now and then did you actually 327 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,080 think like, Okay, this is going to be my career 328 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,759 or were you just like doing scenes and making money, 329 00:15:32,759 --> 00:15:34,480 Like did you have any like long term plans in 330 00:15:34,519 --> 00:15:35,120 place at the time. 331 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,639 Speaker 2: I was just doing it. Yeah, I was just kind 332 00:15:38,639 --> 00:15:40,639 of doing it. And then after a few scenes I 333 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,440 kind of realized, uh no. It was after the first 334 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,960 tease when I won some awards for it my first year, 335 00:15:46,519 --> 00:15:48,919 I was like, Okay, I guess this can be a career. Look, 336 00:15:48,919 --> 00:15:50,080 I'm pretty good at this. 337 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,759 Speaker 1: So that was the moment when you realize that you 338 00:15:52,799 --> 00:15:54,440 could really do it? Was when you won the award. 339 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say, because I won like three my first 340 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,320 year at the tees, I won like a solo model, 341 00:16:01,879 --> 00:16:04,879 gender ex Performer of the Year, I believe gender X 342 00:16:04,919 --> 00:16:07,120 Model over the Year, Okay, and then like one for 343 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,519 a scene, and I'm like I went through my first 344 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,480 year and I was just kind of blown away by that. 345 00:16:12,039 --> 00:16:13,519 So I was like, this is pretty cool. 346 00:16:13,919 --> 00:16:15,399 Speaker 1: So for those of you who don't know that, that's 347 00:16:15,399 --> 00:16:17,720 the trans Erotica Awards, which we mentioned earlier. 348 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, they give us little crystals. They're very pretty. 349 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: So speaking of you're currently up for six te nominations 350 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:32,879 this year, I haven't even checked. Well, according to your publicist, 351 00:16:32,919 --> 00:16:36,720 and I'm going to assume that she knows, how do 352 00:16:36,799 --> 00:16:39,679 these nominations feel now compared to earlier in your career? 353 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,759 Speaker 2: Oh so good. It's so nice to continue being recognized, 354 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,919 especially because I, like, you know, I took some time 355 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:53,080 off over the years for personal reasons, and just recently 356 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,399 I had my rips cracked. We can get into that, like, 357 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,960 it's just good to be recogniz it's still after four 358 00:17:01,159 --> 00:17:02,360 of almost five years. 359 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:07,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you got your ribs cracked? Was that on purpose? 360 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 361 00:17:07,519 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so you got them. You got some like where 362 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,000 they take some out and. 363 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 2: Know everyone, all my fans think I had my ribs removed. 364 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,039 I did not. They're still inside me. But I took 365 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:20,440 the last four months off because in September I had 366 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,079 them surgically fractured. Okay, So he like goes in with 367 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,319 like a what do they call it? An ultrasound. Yeah, 368 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,960 he did a little ultrasound thing and he fractured fourteen 369 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,319 of them, and then you were a nice courset for 370 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,400 three months and heels in that shape. 371 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: How was that recovery best? 372 00:17:37,599 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: Oh? Well, they recovery was terrible, but it looks good. 373 00:17:41,039 --> 00:17:43,559 I'm all healed now. But I couldn't work for four months. 374 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 375 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: I was worried that was going to affect like nominations 376 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,279 and stuff, but it was fine. 377 00:17:48,519 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: Were you worried that like people would like forget about 378 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:52,240 you quote unquote? 379 00:17:52,519 --> 00:17:56,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I had that fear before I took some 380 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,039 time off a couple of years ago for other reasons. Yeah, so, 381 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,440 and then they didn't really forget that work good. 382 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: It's hard to do that, right, Like, sometimes I think 383 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,640 it's important for us to take breaks for personal reasons 384 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,440 or whatever, but it's hard. I can imagine, Like for you, 385 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,200 you're on such a great trajectory. Everybody wants to shoot you. 386 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,759 You're busy, and like it can be difficult to say 387 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:19,640 no because. 388 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, the first couple of years were crazy. I was 389 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,400 working so much. It was like four or five scenes 390 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,279 a month, which is like a lot for trans How 391 00:18:29,279 --> 00:18:32,400 do you mean, I don't know. I just I was 392 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,799 just getting booked so much. Like nowadays, I only get 393 00:18:34,799 --> 00:18:38,119 booked like once or twice a month, which is fine now, 394 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:38,519 thank you. 395 00:18:38,799 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: Oh you're saying because there's not as many like transfer 396 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,799 directors and fan scenes available. 397 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 2: There was one month I worked. I did like eight 398 00:18:45,559 --> 00:18:48,279 scenes that month. In my first two years, everyone wanted 399 00:18:48,279 --> 00:18:51,559 to shoot me. It was so fun. But yeah, I 400 00:18:51,559 --> 00:18:53,359 was on a great trajectory but kind of fell off 401 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:53,759 the horse. 402 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: Yeah that's a guy. But I mean you have like 403 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,480 your own personal content platforms. 404 00:18:59,599 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: I oh yeah, I love the only fans. I'm always 405 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:03,920 on their chat. 406 00:19:04,519 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: So does that make you feel like more secure in 407 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,880 your career to know that because like that, you know, 408 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,160 before you used to not be an option. 409 00:19:10,279 --> 00:19:15,759 Speaker 2: Oh girl, I don't know how they did it. I 410 00:19:15,759 --> 00:19:20,480 don't know how they made their money. Girl. Yeah, OnlyFans 411 00:19:20,599 --> 00:19:21,920 is how I pay the bill. 412 00:19:23,319 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: So let's go back to the awards because you recently 413 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,160 want an XMA for best sex Scene. Yes, right, so 414 00:19:29,319 --> 00:19:30,720 trans for trans orgy. 415 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:31,279 Speaker 2: Yes. 416 00:19:31,559 --> 00:19:33,279 Speaker 1: What was it like being such part of such a 417 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,359 large high profiles? 418 00:19:34,559 --> 00:19:36,759 Speaker 2: Oh? So good. It's just powers, you know. 419 00:19:37,039 --> 00:19:39,319 Speaker 1: And who we love. We had him on this podcast. 420 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,279 I never met him before to watch that. It's so good. Yeah, 421 00:19:44,319 --> 00:19:45,960 if you haven't seen it, go watch it. It's one 422 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,240 of my favorite episodes. I will say that we had. 423 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,039 Speaker 2: To Oh I could match. 424 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: If you're watching this on YouTube, we had to cut 425 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,440 a lot out watches back there going cut. We had 426 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,680 to cut so much out because YouTube gets mad at 427 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,839 me if I anything to explicit. But if you're a 428 00:20:01,839 --> 00:20:05,200 member of my Patreon, you can watch the full episode 429 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,039 or if you listen to like it on your on 430 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,279 any podcast network like Spotify, Apple podcasts, like, the audio 431 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,880 is full, but the public version on YouTube is trimmed. 432 00:20:18,039 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 2: Oh I'm going to find that girl. That man has 433 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,799 some crazy story, crazy stories. 434 00:20:21,839 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: I can send you the link, or like I said, 435 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,559 do listen to podcasts. 436 00:20:24,599 --> 00:20:26,319 Speaker 2: Not really, but I'd listened to that one. 437 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,559 Speaker 1: Okay, So if you listen to it as opposed to 438 00:20:28,599 --> 00:20:31,079 watch it on YouTube, you'll get the full fabulous it's 439 00:20:31,079 --> 00:20:33,640 only on YouTube. We had to trim it because YouTube 440 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,599 has We'll find It'll well, it's a forty five minute 441 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,519 ride home. I'll listen to it's you want to listen 442 00:20:39,519 --> 00:20:40,319 to the full version. 443 00:20:40,759 --> 00:20:43,279 Speaker 2: I just loved him so much. He was like one 444 00:20:43,319 --> 00:20:45,880 of my first ever directors. He just to me in 445 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,759 Ariel he's like our poorn uncle. He gives very good, 446 00:20:48,839 --> 00:20:51,599 like crazy uncle vibes. Yeah, it's always so fun to 447 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,079 see him and work for him. So that scene was 448 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,960 a blast. All the cast was great. Oh my god, 449 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,759 he was so good with the casting. We had. We 450 00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:04,319 had we had Toy, we had Casey K, Chloe K. Yeah, 451 00:21:04,319 --> 00:21:05,640 it was just it was just a good cast. 452 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: Tell me about the scene itself, like, what was the theme. 453 00:21:09,519 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: It was like a house party because normally every year 454 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,200 gender X does the transpool party orgy, and I've done 455 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,160 two of those. I think they've both of them won 456 00:21:18,279 --> 00:21:20,519 something at some point, so it's always a big deal 457 00:21:20,519 --> 00:21:22,720 to be a part of the gender X orgy every year, 458 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,559 and this was the one for that year, and it 459 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:30,039 was so fun. It was like house party. I remember. 460 00:21:30,079 --> 00:21:32,920 Oh yeah, each of us were dating each me. Each 461 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,119 of us had a male talent, so we all came 462 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,920 with dates and then it just turned into an orgy. 463 00:21:38,279 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: That scene apparently became one of the most viewed trans 464 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,559 scenes of the year. Really, yeah, did you feel like 465 00:21:43,759 --> 00:21:45,039 when it came out did you get a lot of 466 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:46,720 feedback on it right away? Oh? 467 00:21:46,839 --> 00:21:50,279 Speaker 2: No, I'm not sure. Honestly, I'm so bad when it 468 00:21:50,319 --> 00:21:51,960 comes to keeping up with releases. 469 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: You just do it. You're in the moment, like once 470 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,039 it comes out. 471 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 2: I don't even know when it came out, forgive me, 472 00:22:00,839 --> 00:22:01,000 you know. 473 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's funny. Actually my mom was like that 474 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,519 a lot. Like I'm the kind of person who's always 475 00:22:05,559 --> 00:22:09,519 looking at like what it was afterwards, Like I'm always 476 00:22:09,559 --> 00:22:11,920 looking at the final product and the response and stuff. 477 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,880 But my mom was always somebody who shot, and she's 478 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,319 like in the moment, right, Like loved working in the moment, 479 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,440 shooting in the moment, and then afterwards she didn't even 480 00:22:19,559 --> 00:22:21,160 edit it. She didn't even look at it, like she 481 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,880 didn't care, you know. Was always like how that in 482 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:24,319 the moment. 483 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: Like when it comes to awards season, like I feel 484 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:32,079 bitchy because like something will win and then I'll oh god, 485 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,559 it happened at the Tea Awards last year, one of 486 00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:36,559 my scenes won and I went on stage and I 487 00:22:36,599 --> 00:22:39,559 didn't know which one before because there are just so 488 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,640 many and I guess I have a bad memory. Yeah, 489 00:22:42,839 --> 00:22:46,319 I forget things. I remember now. It was the trans 490 00:22:46,319 --> 00:22:50,400 scene for trans Angels, Very good with Jane Calloway. It 491 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,079 was wonderful. 492 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: Okay, So you're known for your topping and acting skills. Yes, 493 00:22:55,599 --> 00:22:57,880 How intentional is that craft for you? Oh? 494 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,319 Speaker 2: I love topping on camera because I feel it. I 495 00:23:01,319 --> 00:23:03,960 feel like I can be very statuesque with it. There's 496 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,519 lots of poses you can do. It's an art form 497 00:23:07,599 --> 00:23:10,880 really because you have to be angled a certain way. 498 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,680 You always have to be open for the camera. You 499 00:23:12,759 --> 00:23:17,160 have to make sure you're flipping your bottom around. So yeah, 500 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,799 it's a much different vibe than bottoming. 501 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: And it kind of puts you more in like the 502 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,079 controlling part of the. 503 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 2: And see, I'm very submissive, so when it comes to sex, right, well, 504 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,160 it's more like bottom top from the bottom, I guess. 505 00:23:31,759 --> 00:23:34,640 But yeah, I don't know. I just prefer topping on 506 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,039 camera because I know my angle right right. 507 00:23:38,279 --> 00:23:40,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, but personally you're more submissive. 508 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, bottom interesting, But you don't have a problem like 509 00:23:46,279 --> 00:23:49,279 doing either on camera? Oh no, never. Well, I still 510 00:23:49,319 --> 00:23:51,759 top in my personal life, just not as often. 511 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: So you've worked across a huge range of studios, gender X, 512 00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:59,960 adult time, Grooby, kink browsers. What separates a good set 513 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:00,960 from a great one? 514 00:24:01,279 --> 00:24:03,759 Speaker 2: Good food? Oh my god, you know what? 515 00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: I laugh? But honestly, like I am with you on that. 516 00:24:07,319 --> 00:24:10,880 I think that that's such an important part and it's 517 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,720 something that gets overlooked a lot. 518 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,519 Speaker 2: That's very true. Good food and good good good crew, 519 00:24:16,839 --> 00:24:19,920 good pas. I love a good pa. Oh my god, 520 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,680 they're always so nice. Oh and then the other little 521 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:30,319 ad and I'll say is good energy on set. Some sets, 522 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,599 you know that the people like to yellow at each other, 523 00:24:33,079 --> 00:24:34,759 and I feel like that just puts a lot of 524 00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:38,680 pressure and stress on the model, you know, like we're 525 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,720 there to perform and like fuck on camera and do 526 00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:44,720 our job, and like when there's people screaming at each other, 527 00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:48,559 like bad attitudes being thrown around, it like pulls you 528 00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:52,279 out of that flow state and just mix the day, 529 00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:55,079 drag on a little more, if you will. A few 530 00:24:55,079 --> 00:24:57,799 times that's happened, we bitched a little and they've been 531 00:24:57,799 --> 00:24:58,799 getting better about it. 532 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: You to woo them into. Would you ever have any 533 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,319 interest in directing or anything like that. 534 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 2: At this current juncture? Probably not. I don't know. I 535 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,079 I well, I was just on Aeriels The Naughty Nanny 536 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,000 and watching all the moving parts and like everything it 537 00:25:18,079 --> 00:25:20,079 was really cool to watch, but like that's just a 538 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,039 little too much stress for me at the moment, but 539 00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:26,200 I'm still rather young in the industry, so I got 540 00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:27,279 got some time. 541 00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:31,279 Speaker 1: I will say, like, because obviously, like I directed for years, 542 00:25:31,319 --> 00:25:33,559 and it is a lot of work, and compared to 543 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,599 like mainstream sets, directors an adult generally have to wear 544 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,000 a lot of hats that you wouldn't otherwise, And so 545 00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:43,440 it's like not just showing up and like directing the day, 546 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,480 it's like producing and getting the location and dealing with 547 00:25:46,519 --> 00:25:48,240 the logistics and all that kind of stuff. 548 00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:50,079 Speaker 2: Say, I don't wear that many hats yet. 549 00:25:50,519 --> 00:25:53,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, but and it's also like I mean, to be honest, 550 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,359 it doesn't pay that well. 551 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 2: Oh really, you know, Yeah, I didn't really hear about 552 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,279 the financial side of it because Ariel like basically funded 553 00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:03,799 The Naughty Nanny herself. Yeah, so I didn't really hear 554 00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:06,440 how that worked. I got a paycheck, I know that. 555 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean, like, if you're shooting for other companies, 556 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,519 like a director's fees, not that it's not that high thriller, 557 00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:17,599 you're usually you're almost never making more than the talent. 558 00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 559 00:26:18,519 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: And if you think about too, it's just you gotta 560 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,799 love it, like you really gotta love directing. Yeah for 561 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,559 it to make sense. 562 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,759 Speaker 2: Well, I really like how Aubrey Kate does it because 563 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,599 she is directing for Evil Angel. Yeah, and she booked 564 00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:35,079 me for a scene that she directed, but she was 565 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,519 also in the scene. So it was her and I 566 00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:39,960 with like three men dressed as g I Joe's and 567 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,200 she like directed it like as we were shooting it. 568 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,279 And I'm sure plenty of people do it or do that, 569 00:26:44,319 --> 00:26:46,960 but I haven't really been in a scene myself or 570 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,119 like the director is also like the model, so that 571 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,240 that might be something I'd be interested in in the 572 00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:56,319 future because I like to be in the movie. Yeah, 573 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,160 but yeah, I just think that's really cool. Maybe someday soon. 574 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: Well, I will say that I know that Evil Angel 575 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,079 has done this with a lot of other directors. Obviously, 576 00:27:05,079 --> 00:27:07,279 I don't know what Aubrey's deal is, but they do 577 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,799 something that's pretty uncommon with a lot of other brands, 578 00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:15,039 where they do a deal that the director also gets 579 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,759 like part of the distribution, like back end right, so 580 00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:21,039 they get like a I know that they did that 581 00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:23,799 with Lisa Ann. I know they've done that with some 582 00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:25,279 other people. Like I said, I don't know what they're 583 00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:27,279 dealing with with Aubrey, but it wouldn't surprise me if 584 00:27:27,319 --> 00:27:30,279 it was something like that and that, And I think 585 00:27:30,279 --> 00:27:33,240 in those cases, first of all, you're probably more motivated 586 00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:35,799 to make about absolutely scene, right because you get and. 587 00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 2: She makes good stuff. Yeah, Like I was really satisfied 588 00:27:40,039 --> 00:27:42,880 with her with the art, the experience on se she 589 00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:46,599 we had fun with that. It was so pretty. So yeah, 590 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,720 she puts our heart into it and I appreciate that, Yeah, 591 00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:50,920 because not a lot of them do. 592 00:27:51,319 --> 00:27:55,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, So, uh, Jade as a transperformer, how is 593 00:27:55,319 --> 00:27:57,960 your experience in the industry evolved since you started? 594 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 2: I wouldn't really call it a book the whole thing. 595 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,440 I don't know when I first started, uh, like about 596 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,440 a year and we started getting like really artsy, like 597 00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:10,920 fun things like for Adult Time we did muses. It's 598 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,799 like a model of the month thing, and we got 599 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:16,480 to like design our own scenes and pick our scene 600 00:28:16,519 --> 00:28:19,480 partners and like basically like kind of mini direct it. 601 00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:22,920 And I love stuff like that, and I feel like 602 00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:26,519 we stopped getting stuff like that, So maybe a devolve, 603 00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:30,519 if you will. So that's why I really appreciate like 604 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:34,119 what Aerials Demure is doing. We had Gorgans and goddesses, 605 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,799 very artsy, very gorgeous, and then we just did the 606 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,720 Naughty Nanny. So I just love it. I love projects 607 00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:44,599 like that that are like there's love put into it, 608 00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:47,480 you know, And I feel like we haven't been getting 609 00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:52,359 that as much lately anymore. But you know, the taste fluctuate, 610 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,319 so maybe we'll go back to that, who knows. I 611 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,480 just noticed the cyths side gets a lot of the 612 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:02,960 theatrical things, and we're transsexuals. We're very theatrical and we're 613 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,720 good at it. Yeah, so and it would be nice 614 00:29:05,759 --> 00:29:06,440 to see more of that. 615 00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: And it's an enormously popular niche. Yeah, and it's only growing. 616 00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:16,599 I think porn Hub's last review showed that, like, yeah, 617 00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:20,839 the the searches for trans porn like is definitely on 618 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,200 the rest. 619 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 2: Oh, they like ass. They don't want to admit it, honey, 620 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:25,559 but they love. 621 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,839 Speaker 1: Do you find that most of your audience's straight men? 622 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well alliga with. 623 00:29:32,039 --> 00:29:34,599 Speaker 1: Le Yeah, I was gonna say air quotes, straightment. 624 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: Whatever they want to call it, but yeah, for the 625 00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:37,759 most far. 626 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,279 Speaker 1: Do you think that the industry has changed overall and 627 00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:44,319 how it treats and understands transperformers or do you think 628 00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:45,599 that like it's still catching up. 629 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: Oh, it's still catching up for sure, and it's I 630 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,880 wouldn't say it's anyone's fault in particular, but it's just 631 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,319 kind of how it's always been. I don't know, it's 632 00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:57,160 a little tricky to answer that one. 633 00:29:58,039 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, I will say that I 634 00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:04,599 was really impressed by the way that Ariel really spoke 635 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,079 up about how she felt about how, you know, the 636 00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:11,559 transperformer categories were acknowledged at AVN. 637 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,319 Speaker 2: Oh. Yeah, av n's been been doing the last two 638 00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:18,000 years and then and the boy did they girl, they 639 00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:21,799 switched it up real quick, and I'm so appreciative. Good job. 640 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,599 Av X has has always been great that they love 641 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,599 the dolls we saw on the front road this year. 642 00:30:28,359 --> 00:30:31,720 But yeah, I think there's definitely some growing to do 643 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,000 on on the trans side of porn. But you know, 644 00:30:35,599 --> 00:30:37,720 it's only twenty twenty six. We got time. 645 00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: What do you think people outside the industry misunderstand the 646 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,599 most about like maybe transperformers specifically. 647 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: That we are, oh god, just just horny over sexual 648 00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:55,440 beings at all time. They just think we're we're just 649 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,960 so over eroticized. And I know that's porn and we're 650 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,839 so good at that. We love doing that on camera. 651 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,079 Like I get approached in public sometimes by people who 652 00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:06,119 may recognize me or something, and they're vile. Sometimes they 653 00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:08,839 come up to me or in messages and just say 654 00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:11,119 the nastiest shit, or on me twitch streams they go 655 00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:13,559 go on there and get vile and I'm like, I 656 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,119 need time and place. Do you see the dick in me? Honey? Now? 657 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,160 So let's cool it. They think we're just horny devians 658 00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:25,960 all the time, and that's just not true. I'm tired. 659 00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:28,720 I have cats to take care of, you know. 660 00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:34,519 Speaker 1: So I kind of liken it to when I think 661 00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:38,319 about boxers, right, Like boxers obviously love to fight. Like 662 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,480 boxers like they make a whole career out of it, 663 00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:42,920 but that doesn't mean that they want to fight everybody 664 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,960 all the time, Like wow, would you but you know 665 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,640 what I mean, Like would you walk up to a 666 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,720 boxer and like punch them in the face and be 667 00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:51,759 like let's go bro? You know what I'm saying? 668 00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:54,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that just as a whole though, for 669 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,000 like any performer, whether it's gay, straight, by trans, you know, 670 00:31:58,279 --> 00:32:02,839 like how they do just that. The expos definitely shows 671 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,839 all of my fans for the most part, have been 672 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,559 respectful at the expos But I've heard like girls getting grabbed, 673 00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:11,519 girls getting touched, and just like, no, you're not allowed 674 00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:14,000 to do that unless they ask for it. 675 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: Do you think that stems from maybe like a lack 676 00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:19,880 of I mean, for lack of a better word, actually 677 00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:22,480 sex education on the part of these people who kind 678 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,960 of take these advantages, like they don't understand the difference 679 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:31,400 between like they they've been so shaded from sex and 680 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,720 sexuality that anybody who exhibits it in a public way, 681 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,799 they just that's the only thing that drives them. 682 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,839 Speaker 2: I think that's just theirs for the grabbing. Yes, definitely. 683 00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: So you have had some onset mishaps, I assume like 684 00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:52,920 anybody else. Oh god, what's one moment where everything completely 685 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:53,519 fell apart? 686 00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: Oh god, well I never chatted about this one. I 687 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,000 have one in mind. 688 00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: Okay. 689 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,039 Speaker 2: I was doing a scene a couple of years ago, 690 00:33:01,079 --> 00:33:05,440 I'll be very vague, and this performer was blowing me 691 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,200 and it was fine. It was a hot scene, very 692 00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:12,200 very themed. It was very themed scene, and the person 693 00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:15,319 was blowing me and it was a tough morning. It 694 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,920 was a tough morning. So the staid person was having 695 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,559 a little party in the bathroom all morning. Will they 696 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,960 like to have a good time, right, And I don't mind. 697 00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:25,039 Do do whatever you want to do on set, as 698 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:26,720 long as you can perform and do your joy. 699 00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 700 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,279 Speaker 2: And that was just a tough day. And they were 701 00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:35,240 blowing me and like deep throating, and they vomited a 702 00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:38,359 chocolate milkshake all over my dick. I know it was 703 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,039 a chocolate milkshake because it was chocolate. And it was 704 00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:44,759 like one pm. So this person had a chocolate milkshake 705 00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:48,000 earlier in the day in the morning. I don't know 706 00:33:48,039 --> 00:33:50,880 why who drinks a chocolate milkshake to go do anal 707 00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:51,799 I don't. 708 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: Probably someone who's been having a party in the bathroom. 709 00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: Well, yes, and they threw up a chocolate milkshake and uh. 710 00:33:59,319 --> 00:34:00,960 And we were at a small all her rooms, so 711 00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:05,039 the whole room just sounds like vomit. And I was 712 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,639 very judicious. I I just went with it, let her, 713 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,760 let them blow me. And finally, after like two minutes 714 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,360 after the vomit came out, the director was like, all right, 715 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,800 so we're going to stop. And we did a quick 716 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,400 cleanup and got right back on the horse. But What 717 00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:25,400 got me is the person didn't apologize. They were like, uh, 718 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,639 this is a they like this in legal Porto over 719 00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:29,519 in Europe. I didn't. 720 00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: I don't see what the. 721 00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 2: Big deal is. And I'm like, that's not very nice, 722 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,920 so very a little traumatizing. But girl, we knocked it out. 723 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,159 After we cleaned up, we. 724 00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: Were fine, just roll with the punches. 725 00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:45,119 Speaker 2: Oh so funny. In the moment, I thought it was 726 00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:47,159 so funny. I wasn't offended by any meaning. 727 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I mean legal Porno. I don't know 728 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,760 if you've ever seen that website. It's gnarly. They're so crazy. 729 00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been wanting to book me, but I don't 730 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,400 have a passport and I'm not I'm not into urine 731 00:34:59,519 --> 00:34:59,960 in particu. 732 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like, how hardcore are you? 733 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 2: Oh? I wouldn't do some of those things. But they 734 00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:08,679 do orgies or like gang bangs. I could have a 735 00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:11,480 bunch of euro men, you know, Rono Turin on Reo problem, 736 00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:15,000 but it's the the dirty or play. I would not 737 00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:17,599 get into what do you like? 738 00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:18,599 Speaker 1: Like, what kind of scenes do you like? 739 00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:21,639 Speaker 2: Oh god, lately I've been like in bottoming a lot 740 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,559 for men just because you know a lot of the 741 00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:27,719 medications we take the trimax to get hard, so for 742 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,960 me that's very painful. So like as of late, I've 743 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,119 been preferring to bottom because I don't have to shoot 744 00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:37,039 my tacop right. Yeah, So I just did a scene 745 00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:40,079 yesterday for Ricky Greenwood and I got Cliff Johnson and 746 00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:43,679 he fox like a powerhouse. So it was a lovely time, 747 00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:49,639 good attraction, good sex. But yeah, bottoming that's what I've 748 00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:50,360 been into lately. 749 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: So apparently there is a story about a skirt that 750 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,199 you order Avian. Does that true? 751 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 2: Oh God, yes, that's so funny. So I wore the 752 00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:04,920 gorgeous gown to avn. It was an agent provocateur, very 753 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,360 expensive corset with like the lingerie pieces underneath. It's very 754 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,079 showgirl and I needed a skirt for it. So Ariel 755 00:36:13,159 --> 00:36:15,320 and I went down to the fashion district to find 756 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:20,599 a good fabric and we found this one gorgeous beaded fabric. 757 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,039 He could see it on my Instagram stunting stuff. It's 758 00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:28,320 like this beaded red it looks like blood because the droplets, 759 00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:32,239 and it was like five five, six hundred dollars for 760 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,559 like three yards. And this guy loves us in this 761 00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:40,199 specific place in the fashion district. He loves the tea girls. 762 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,239 So we see what we could get away with. We 763 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,039 bring very seductive and we ended up giving him a 764 00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:50,559 hand job. Me and Ariel took turns jerking off the 765 00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:55,400 store guy for that six hundred dollars worth of fabric, 766 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,880 and we made my dress out of it. The best 767 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:03,280 hand job I've ever given. I felt so county I 768 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,239 had to wash my hand after, but it was so 769 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,639 worth it. That's such a great sty We gotta do 770 00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:10,119 what we gotta do in this economy. 771 00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:13,039 Speaker 1: Hey, you know what I got to hand it to you. Wow, 772 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,599 Obviously we're in your favor, very very true. 773 00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 2: We're very proud of that one. It's going in the archive. 774 00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god. That's so great. So you also stream 775 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,239 and game as well? I do. Tell me a little 776 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,199 bit about that, Like, what are some of your favorite games? 777 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,519 Speaker 2: Oh god, well, I've been obsessed with Fortnate for like 778 00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:33,440 eight years. I have been playing it off and on 779 00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:35,840 for a very long time. It's so fun. They add 780 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,679 like celebrities to it. I wear Lady Gaga sometime, shoes 781 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,199 my girl. Yeah, it's so fun. All my friends play 782 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,400 a lot of a lot of the porn trans girls 783 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,360 play it, and then I've been big to overwatch lately. 784 00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:51,159 That one's like a call of duty like shooter. 785 00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:55,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you or do you do you personally 786 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,559 separate like an on camera persona from your everyday self 787 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,199 or is like is it all the same person? 788 00:38:01,519 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 2: Oh God? I try to put myself into my roles, 789 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,679 and the directors know I play a really good bitch, 790 00:38:10,199 --> 00:38:12,639 so I usually get typecasted, and then the roles where 791 00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:17,039 I'm expected to be bitchy, I do so well. But 792 00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:19,559 my uh, when you when you watch my streams, you 793 00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:22,239 kind of see my real personality. I'm a little unhinged, 794 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,960 if you will, with some of my vernacular. So yeah, 795 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,559 I definitely I'm a little I try to be a 796 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:32,679 little more mysterious on camera because I don't think my 797 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,960 demeanor is always the most sexy. 798 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: Speaking of like how do you manage like a work 799 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,920 life balance, Like how do you manage you know, being 800 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,679 the on camera jade venus and then like also taking 801 00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:47,679 time for yourself to take care of yourself or is 802 00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:50,719 that balance you're struggling with still I don't know. 803 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 2: I'm pretty self indulgent with my knee time. I when 804 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,360 I'm not working, I'm usually hanging out with with the 805 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,840 friends or I'm an invert, so I need my my 806 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,119 knee time and I take it. So I think I've 807 00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:07,360 got a good balance on And in fact, I think 808 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,480 I could work a little harder. If anything, I just 809 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,400 don't like leaving my house. I like to stay at 810 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:19,920 home with my cats. But yeah, I say the balance 811 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:20,519 is pretty good. 812 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,679 Speaker 1: You're doing better than I am, because man, that is 813 00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:27,039 something I'm terrible. What's the biggest lesson that the porn 814 00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:28,719 industry has taught you about yourself? 815 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 2: Oh God, don't be so hard on yourself. Oh god, 816 00:39:33,039 --> 00:39:34,840 you're your enough. You're doing great. 817 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: And what about like online trolls like how do you 818 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,719 manage like criticism? 819 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,519 Speaker 2: Or we have fun? We have fun? Well so that 820 00:39:41,639 --> 00:39:44,920 the interviews you posted of us, me and Ariel, those 821 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,280 comments are vile and me and Aria. 822 00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:49,039 Speaker 1: See here's my thing. I don't read the comments. 823 00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 2: Oh we do. 824 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: I do not ever read the comments. I have no 825 00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:53,559 idea what it says. That's how I deal with it. 826 00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:54,280 I just don't read them. 827 00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:57,079 Speaker 2: No, we live for it, me and Ariel going there 828 00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:01,199 and we like them. Like the mean ones comments and they 829 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,880 usually talked shit about our voices and shit that I 830 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,480 think it's funny. And then sometimes I'll go look at 831 00:40:06,519 --> 00:40:09,400 some of my trailers on TikTok, kier Noir posted this 832 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,159 fun video of us from a scene we did a 833 00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:14,039 couple of years ago, and those comments were so funny. 834 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,599 I like, if you're transphobic to me, if you're funny 835 00:40:16,599 --> 00:40:20,400 about it, like, make me laugh, please. If you're gonna 836 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,320 be rude, make it silly, make it make it worth reading. 837 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,039 And there's creative ways to be transphobic A lot of me, 838 00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:28,079 tell you, so, come on entertain me. 839 00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:32,079 Speaker 1: How has your confidence changed since entering the industry? 840 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 2: Oh a lot? Yeah, I mean I was I. I 841 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,239 had built up some confidence before porn, for sure, but 842 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,320 I wanted bottom surgery. I almost got bottom surgery at eighteen, 843 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,880 Like I from twelve to eighteen, I wanted a pussy, 844 00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:50,360 you know, it was all I wanted. And then porn 845 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,559 really taught me how to embrace that part of me 846 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,639 and capitalize on it. You know, I mean, deep down 847 00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:01,760 I still would like that of it, but yeah, portn 848 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,039 taught me to embrace it and make some coin off it. Yeah, 849 00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:07,280 so I if I got bottom surgery. Now I wouldn't 850 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:12,000 be making as much money. I'd rather be comfortable than 851 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,719 not comfortable. 852 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: If you will. It's like sometimes those different those things 853 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,119 that make us different, are also like what can make 854 00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:24,480 us special and make us and make us like Yeah, 855 00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:24,960 the money. 856 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 2: I like being Allie. I love topping, and you can't 857 00:41:28,039 --> 00:41:31,920 do that if you get bottom surgery. Yeah, I agree 858 00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:32,760 definitely that. 859 00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 1: What does success look like to you at this stage 860 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,000 in your life? What does it mean to you? 861 00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 2: Just living comfortably? I didn't always live comfortably growing up, 862 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,400 so it's very important to me that I am. I 863 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,639 don't want to be rich by any mean, I just 864 00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:50,760 want to be comfortable. Yeah, so that would be successful. 865 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,039 Maybe getting a nice little house at some point. Maybe 866 00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:58,840 you start directing at some point too, or helping who knows, 867 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,800 but yeah, just a comfortable lifestyle. 868 00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: What are like your favorite things to indulge in? 869 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,079 Speaker 2: Oh god, video games, the Fortnite and clothes. Oh my god, 870 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,400 I have a wardrobe addiction. 871 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: You ever thought about being a stylist? No, you only 872 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,320 want to address yourself. If you could give advice to 873 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,760 someone entering the industry, what would you tell them? What 874 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,719 are maybe some things you wish you had known before 875 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:24,199 you got in. 876 00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 2: Oh, God, don't do drugs. Don't do drugs, and be 877 00:42:28,519 --> 00:42:31,880 careful who you associate with. My first year in the industry, 878 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:39,119 I met a certain character in question, and he opened 879 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,159 my world up to various types of drugs that I 880 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,760 never heard of. I used to have a ketemine addiction, 881 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,320 and that was in my first year. That was in 882 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,199 the prime of my career, when I was blowing up. 883 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,239 I got this k addiction. And I wouldn't have even 884 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,199 discovered this form of ketamine if I hadn't met this person. 885 00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:03,199 Careful who you hang out with. It was a two 886 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,199 two year fight, and now I'm a year and a 887 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:11,679 half sober. Good, congratulations, thank you. But yeah, just stay 888 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,719 away from from the drugs. A little here and there 889 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,679 is fun, but just don't know, honey, it's not worth it. 890 00:43:17,679 --> 00:43:21,280 It'll take you out. It almost derailed my career permanently. 891 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,559 Speaker 1: I'm seven years sober. 892 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 2: Oh I didn't know that. 893 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a serious alcohol Oh. 894 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,519 Speaker 2: Remember, Luckily I never liked the alcohol, so I don't drink. 895 00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:36,599 My choice. It's the ketamine and cocaine. I stay away 896 00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:37,239 from that now. 897 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I never got a chance to try ketymine before 898 00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:42,719 I got sober, so missed out on that. 899 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 2: I know you were sober. That's so cool. I love that. 900 00:43:45,199 --> 00:43:48,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's my second go round too. I was seven. 901 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,119 I was sober for seven years before as well. Okay, 902 00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:53,840 and then I relapsed, Yeah, about four years to get 903 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,320 back on slips. 904 00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 2: No, three slips. 905 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: Oh god. You know it's not always a straight line. 906 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,760 Speaker 2: No that, and I learned thought I was so ashamed 907 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,199 of my first two relapses. 908 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:04,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. 909 00:44:04,639 --> 00:44:06,559 Speaker 2: But yeah, this is the longest I've ever been sober. 910 00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: So cool. Thank you amazing. All right, so last question 911 00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:14,159 before we wrap this up, and of course we have 912 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:19,239 our Patreon questions afterwards. But finally, what is what do 913 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,199 you want people to take away from this interview? Like, 914 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,079 what do you want people to know about Jade Venus? 915 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,760 Speaker 2: I'm just an MD blonde, bombshell firecracker. I like to 916 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,000 have a fun time and I'm very Italian. 917 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,599 Speaker 1: Thank you, Oh my god, well, thank you so much 918 00:44:39,639 --> 00:44:42,480 for coming. We are of course, like I mentioned, going 919 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,880 to do a separate Patreon Q and A for my 920 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,639 Patreon members only. I have your questions here. Thank you 921 00:44:47,679 --> 00:44:50,800 guys so much, But for now, can you let everybody 922 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:51,960 know where they can find you online. 923 00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 2: Oh yes, okay, Instagram jade x Venus. That's also the 924 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,119 only fans and the TikTok call Jade x Venus. And 925 00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:02,440 then on Twitter, I'm just gide Venus. 926 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 1: And then of course you guys can find me on 927 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:09,199 Instagram and on Twitter at Holly Randall. Go to hollylinks 928 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,880 dot com for access to all of my platforms, and 929 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,119 of course, if you want to join my Patreon, it's 930 00:45:14,159 --> 00:45:17,519 patreon dot com slash Holly Randall Unfiltered. 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