Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons, throwing some ice,
mixing some vodka. Call it a podcast from the Mac
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Speaker 2: I'm on my way to Greg Connor's house. I'm running
very late, and I'm the Bills are about to attempt
a forty five yard field goal. But I have these
different mics. We're gonna try this. I don't know if
it's gonna work. I'm gonna see if I can mike
Greg up during the game, because there's no one more animated.
We'll get some of his stuff, we'll have a conversation
at halftime, and we'll do a quick post game. As
I am now driving from the metropolis of Fairport to
the quaint outskirts of Pittsford. Well, Hello, Daniel, Hello. I
grabbed some audio because I went to Greg's house and
I thought, who do I know that knows the Bills
better than Greg? Danny like the two guys who have
great insight. So I thought it would be funny at
times to play sections of Greg and you have to
pick out where in the game that happened where he's
losing his mind. And then I have the last fourteen
minutes of the game that i'd love for you to hear,
and we can pause it any time. You just give
me a sign, and I'd love to get your breakdown
and your thoughts at these different points. But before we
go any further, the Bills moving on in the playoffs
onto the divisional round, winning twenty seven to twenty four.
How are you feeling about this, Dan.
Speaker 3: I'm glad they got out alive, I mean right now
at this point, survive in advance. Yeah, you know, you
can't complain about how they do it. It's just that
they did it. The only time you can complain in
the playoffs is when they lose. All right, now, they
got some things to fix, but I mean they pulled
it off, especially when the defense couldn't get a stop
to save their lives in the second half, and then
all of a sudden, you know, you had to play
with Trey White, you know, John Jacobe Myers tipping the
ball and Lawrence Trevor Lawrence always got to do he
doesn't have to go that far. No, you know, because
that field goal kicker. I mean, I don't know anybody
else in the NFL where the field goal make it
line is at midfield.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy's kicked what sixties seventies he got?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: He has the two longest field goals in NFL history
at sixty eight sixty seventy yards. And you know he
had the cold Bishop interception and that sealed the game.
It was like it was like a shock because there
was a debate should the Bills score immediately?
Speaker 2: This is the thing, and I want you to hear
everything that was happening there. Every pundit, every guy is
up screaming at the television having these things. Greg walks
over to me. He's built down about clock management, and
I go, this is where because Danny. When you watch
a game with Dan, calm, cool and collected on the surface,
very little emotion. When something happens that may be good
or bad, Dan frantically is writing writing notes. There's not
like you're studying this. The rest of us are reacting
to it. Danny's studying it. So it's two different personality
types to watch with. But the end result, the passion
for the team I think is matched, in my opinion,
between the two of you. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, I know that.
Let me see, I'll play you some of the ore
halftime conversation and just kind of see what you think
of that, because I got there more second quarter and
I didn't. I didn't mike anybody up. They weren't fully charged.
I try. I'm trying these new mics just to see
if it work. But let's see, here's what he said,
and you tell me if you agreed disagree. The first
half that's pretty exciting, too exciting, way too exciting. Josh,
looks like they are just beating the crap out of that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean there's multiple times where it look like he
was hurt in the first half alone. Yeah, so you
know they got as long as he can stay.
Speaker 2: Healthy make it through the second half.
Speaker 6: It's just you don't want to limit his what he
can do and what capabilities are.
Speaker 2: The coaching so far, like the challenge. It was a
great call, right, Danny. When that challenge was about to happen,
wherewards your head? Because I think the.
Speaker 3: Bills was yelling challenge, the call to challenge the call.
Speaker 2: Right, yes, yeah, and he and he seemed to wait.
It seemed to be like a long time. It felt
like before he challenged the call because you.
Speaker 3: Want to make sure he got it right, because he's
only had one challenge right the entire season, right, he
needs to hear Okay.
Speaker 4: Do I really want I mean, do we really need?
Should we really challenge this right here? So and he
had to and it worked out.
Speaker 2: So in your opinion, is that a game changing moment?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, because then like the Bills went back down
the field and scored, you know, you had the challenge
at that point. I mean, you didn't have a choice.
It goes there on the verge. If we're talking about
the Lord's play on the fourth down, then absolutely, because
if he doesn't challenge there, if he just lets it
go and I'm sitting there and I don't see that.
He's got the flag in his hand, Like what's he doing,
what's he thinking? What's he waiting for? But he's waiting
for somebody upstairs to tell him the challenge the call.
But I mean if they don't, odds are you know,
Jacksonville goes into the ends. So now it's fourteen to
three and all of a sudden, we've seen this show before,
where okay, now we got to come back and win,
or they're just not going to come back and win.
And instead the Bills go back down the field and score,
and it's a fourteenth point anywhere from a ten to
a fourteen point swing on that because you're talking about
you know, Jacksonville got the ball after the the fumble.
Speaker 4: From Ray Davis, right, and then that changed, that changed everything.
Speaker 3: So I mean, that could have been that could have
been just devastating, and instead the Bills went the other
direction and scored, and it showed, hey, we we got
a game here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I gotta tell you, like, that was
a to me, a game changing moment, because I'm with you.
I thought, if they scored, it's almost like the win
comes out of the sales, you know what I'm saying.
And yet it seemed like the offense at times, other
than the run game, but more in the passing game,
seemed to have a fairly okay time moving down the field.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if you agree.
Speaker 4: I struggle at times.
Speaker 3: And then when they had that one catch by cook,
they took Cooks, they took it back. Yeah, thats a
lot of people did, like national media were like, wait, wait,
what's this? Yeah, you know, I mean and then so
that kind of hurts when you're taking plays like that away.
I mean, the Bills receivers, like, you know, we're getting
hurt left and right. Gave Davis has done for the season, right,
Shavers left the game on spec teams. I mean, they
really didn't have a ton to work with. You know,
Dalton Cacabe really didn't show up until the second half,
and he only had two catches, but they were big,
you know, knocks at his you know, one catch of
the game. But I mean, you know, the Bills went
into this game knowing Jacksonville's going to shut down James
Cook or try to shut down James Cook, and for
the most part, they kind of did. But it was
it was Allen's grit that really got them through this game,
and particularly on that last drive, the last two drives,
with that last drive in particular, because you know, they
they didn't need to run a two minute offense. They
had four minutes. Okay, go run a four minute offense.
And that's what they pretty much did.
Speaker 2: Talk to me about that the grit of Josh Allen.
Josh gets somebody something big ass Linemen Lance's.
Speaker 3: As yeah, behind Allen lands on his head. He twists
his knee, he hits his uh singer on somebody's helmet.
I mean, you know, he went into the blue tent twice.
Everyone's like holding their breath during the commerce.
Speaker 2: He went twice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he went to the He went to the tent twice.
Speaker 2: I only saw the concussion one.
Speaker 4: No, he went in.
Speaker 3: He went into the tent twice. So he's okay. I
mean he's tough. It was just precautionary after the game,
but I mean, yeah, I mean he and then he
had that one play where he almost scored with over
a minute to go and Cyrus Cyrus Torrance is carrying
him into the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, which, by the way, I don't know if.
Speaker 4: You're allowed to do. Apparently you are. Yeah, I mean
he just I mean, like, I think he heard a
lot of the chatter this.
Speaker 3: Week and all of a sudden, you know it's been
it's been in the case for since nineteen ninety two,
but all of a sudden.
Speaker 4: All the builds are number one road playoff game.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, like all right, if you say so, and
they heard all this chatter, and you know, Josh Allen
has to win, even though Lamar Jacksons gut every excuse
why he doesn't win. It's always somebody else's fault. And
Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: Show, that's the way I left, Danny. I'll blame everybody
else once't me. What are you talking about? What wasn't me? Uh,
let's see. I'm just gonna hit these because they're not labeled,
and we'll see at what point in the game you
think Greg is at Because you're so good and you
have such copious notes on the game, I know it.
Speaker 6: He's got They gotta protect him. He's gonna have to
jumping some of that inflammation.
Speaker 7: Blow his knee he's doing out his kneel.
Speaker 3: Ship Come on, was that to touch the first touchdown
where he like now he twisted his knee towards the underground.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean it looked it looked pretty.
Speaker 3: It didn't look gruesome, but I mean it was like,
that's your quarterback over there, like getting like schlact like that.
I mean he had just gotten hit the plate like
two plays earlier. Joe Brady. Yeah, yeah, just let's just
run our quarterback in there, because you know he all
or nothing, all or nothing. I mean, it reminded me
that time in Tennessee where Tyron Taylor almost dislocated his knee.
Speaker 2: Oh I do remember that.
Speaker 3: And then and then it as infinite wisdom, Greg Roman,
all right, let's run that triple reverse and we're gonna
throw it to Tyron Taylor in the flat. And it
was are you kidding me? Like, do you have any
sense of what you're doing? But I mean, Alan's tough,
but holy cow, I mean that this guy earned him.
I mean he earned every dime of his paycheck to
this freaking week.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I agree. I mean this was it and
this was where you know you're at all right, we're
gonna are you gonna put on the cape and go?
And that's certainly what he did. I actually thought the bills,
you know, I mean, the defense obviously stepped up in
the end, but overall I was kind of felt good
about it. Well, yeah, they won, no, no, but I
mean even leading up to I felt very confident. Yeah,
during that last drive, I felt very confident that they
were going to get it in the end zone. It
was just how much no time it's going to be left?
Speaker 4: It came down to this, and I tweeted this out.
Speaker 3: I said, look, if you can't drive down the field,
and score a touchdown and win this game with four
minutes to go, then you don't even belong in the playoffs.
Speaker 4: There's no point in talking about it, So go do it.
And I wasn't nervous at all. I was excited.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And when they're getting closer to the en zone,
I'm like, okay, do we stall out? Because after the
ten second when the clocks when they had to stop
the clock, they had to take a ten second run
off of Jacksonville called time out, but they were out
of timeouts. But it was smart for Jacksonville to do
that because you don't want the ten second runoff because
you need Trevor Lawrence because you know, at this point
you have to expect Buffalo to score and they have
to score seven. They can't score three. They got to
score seven because Jacksonville's.
Speaker 4: Up four, so you know.
Speaker 3: But at that point, I'm like, okay, do we try
to let the clock run down before we get in
the end zone.
Speaker 4: And mcdermit's like, no, screw it, just get in the
end zone. Score. And I think after the.
Speaker 3: Game even Josh Allen was kind of like, uh, yeah,
we made the right play.
Speaker 4: We won the game.
Speaker 8: In other words, yeah, yeah, I may have, uh installed
if that were me, but you know, because I mean,
let's be honest, let's just take a look, let's just
take a glimpse.
Speaker 3: Let's just be a amateur psychologists for just a second.
This dude has had to carry this team, including his defense,
and in that second half he had up until like
the Trey White Cole Bishop interception. He had to carry
that team to victory because Jacksonville was scoring. Jackuvial scored
seventeen points in the second half. Now, I had the
ball four times and they scored every time they touched it.
So he's sticking in his head. I cannot let the
defense get back on the field. But dog Gonett, they
scored and Wishnovsky, which I didn't even realize he was
kicking off until the second half.
Speaker 4: I'm like, wait, minute, is that the punter? Yeah, and
he had a hell of a kick.
Speaker 2: He perfect, he did. He didn't have a great first hunt.
At some point in the game, though, what's that There
was a punt he made that wasn't great?
Speaker 4: Yeah it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was shanked that led to Jacksonville's first touchdown.
Speaker 4: That was in the first half.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, he shanked the punt or was that No,
I'm sorry that was in the second half.
Speaker 4: He shanked the punt.
Speaker 3: But then there was another punt that he had, like
at the Jacksonville three, and then Lawrence took off for
like a twenty yard run.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, they were in the end zone. I thought
for sure he was kidding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, your punter has an amazing punt and the
defense now you know what here, let the quarterback take
off and run with it. Oh thanks, guys, appreciate the
appreciate the hell. But uh, I mean he had an
act of a game today, that kid. I mean a
lot of them did. There are a few guys that
I'm like, like Peter's. Peter Montemurroo's texted me during the game.
Peter about the first of mont to Merrow texted me
at halftime, he goes, I don't think Jacksonville's going to
score another point the rest of this game?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I go, based on what.
Speaker 2: The how about Coleman? I mean, Coleman seemed to show
up a couple of times.
Speaker 3: Hey, look if he drops that ball, he's walking back
to Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: At this point, that was a huge catch. It's huge, huge,
And I was.
Speaker 3: Hoping when after Gabe Davis went down, Coleman's coming to
the g because's got nobody left, right, and hey, let
this kid have his moment.
Speaker 4: Let him have his moment.
Speaker 3: But you know what end up being end up being
Brandon Cooks and good for him too. You know, it
was a total team effort with a bunch of like
misfits going out there and getting the job done, with
the exception of Josh Allen of course.
Speaker 4: And so they got it done.
Speaker 3: And so now it's like either Denver on Saturday or
Pittsburgh on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Right, this is uh yeah, this is this is the
nerve wracking part of life. Here's a I don't know
where this.
Speaker 6: Is, tends to do it all by himself, using his teammates.
He's got to use his teammates in this instance.
Speaker 2: Off saying he needs to use touchdown, touchdown.
Speaker 6: Every points out.
Speaker 2: Both are still tired from that thirteen Do you kind
of agree with Greg? Now this is before Jacksonville just scored,
So they're up right, and now they're kicking off to
the bills and he's saying he's got to use his guys.
Speaker 4: He's talking about Josh, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: Not put it all on his back and not try
to be the hero here. He's got to use everybody,
use his teammates.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm assuming that's the last drive.
Speaker 2: It is, it was going into the last drive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you had you had the big third
down that Alan converted on his own.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Then you had the big thirty seven yard catch by Cooks. Okay,
then you had you know, you know, and then Alan
ended up like almost scoring you got you know he
I mean they just they really yeah he did. He
utilizes guys, but the Cooks play really took a lot
of pressure off everybody else.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it was thirty eight yards.
Speaker 3: I mean he had, dude, he had a defender in
his face on that throw, and the safety blew the
coverage and there, and he knew Cooks was going to
be wide open right there. He threw it perfectly to him.
Speaker 4: So yeah, he was right.
Speaker 3: I mean, like he can't do it all by himself,
but even then he still tried to do it himself.
I mean, that was, like they joked, that was that
had to be a world record for the longest tush
push in history.
Speaker 2: Oh god, that was crazy.
Speaker 4: That George is literally caring of it. And tweet I
don't even that. I don't think you could do that.
Speaker 2: Uh. The last let me just play this because I
just left him running. This is the last fourteen minutes
of the game. Uh, and you'll hear lots of different noise,
but we can pose a different points. You can even
signal me, uh to make your own commentary on things
that you're either hearing or we're feeling at that moment yourself.
Here we go. Yeah, this is uh the last key,
the key, here is the key.
Speaker 6: Here is just get first challes right, don't go for
it all on one play just get just go three.
Speaker 2: Five sticks, just moving. I just want to say this, Yes,
I agree with Greg. Greg has a Lavalier mic on.
He's on the other side of the room. He's he's
talking to the couch, he's talking to the chair, he's
talking to this pool table. They're like it to anybody
in his vicinity. He's just speaking like it's not to
anyone in particular.
Speaker 3: And then his son Luke's playing Call of Duty on
the other TV. No, he wasn't, but watching Penn State back.
Speaker 2: I don't know the other Will was invested in this one.
But yes, here we go. You like the ball down
the shield.
Speaker 6: No inner sat just don't turn over, take time off
the clock work it you know, you use us cook on.
Speaker 2: A run or two challenge. There we got season game
this time.
Speaker 6: Come on, ja, here we go, Cookie cookiek.
Speaker 2: Down the middle, come and see ship thirty one. Well yeah,
two downs you're gonna take. So this is where, like
you know, you can just feel the tension with everybody.
I mean, this was a lot. I think we'll hear
like later on because Greg has some kind of It
wasn't an Apple watch. It's called a woot. Have you
heard of the woot?
Speaker 4: Whoops slap woopstrap?
Speaker 2: Whoops?
Speaker 4: Is it whoop a woopstrap or something like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but yes, yeah, Anoni
Robins goes, Yeah, he uses those.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like it's like a if.
Speaker 2: It's like a fifth pit.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So he was using that. And wait, do you hear
how many calories he burned during this game? Virtual measurement?
All right, so they were doing this is where they
were measuring and trying to figure out Uh oh, hang
on a second, Oh it's Rolling Stone magazine, Bob were
Bob were passed away? I just saw Rolling Stone and
I thought, oh my god, Keith or Mickick and they go,
it's with extreme sadness what he's saying, goodbout to Bob Weir.
But we had a friend who interviewed Bob wear in
his mind.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize Bob Weir was only two days older
than Sammy Hagar.
Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah, he had cancer beat that I used to
I followed Bob on Instagram and he would just do
You would just see him doing exercises, a lot of
like yoga stuff but with straps and weights and things,
and he was in pretty good shape. And then I
heard that it was a breathing problem that he had.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was, Yeah, that's what it was.
Speaker 2: Okay, So there's a whole debate as to whether or
not this is a first down and how they're going
to determine whether or not it was a first down
and whether they got it. It was the technology in
the ball that did show that the bills were there.
Speaker 4: Here's what here's what got me though.
Speaker 3: Okay, Alan got to the forty five on that play
and they spotted the ball at the forty four.
Speaker 2: Why and I'm because saying his leg was down or no,
he slid so is it as soon as.
Speaker 4: You give yourself up that play, that play up that yeah,
the slide, Yeah, yeah, he was a half yard short.
He was sure. I got thinking. I think he got sick.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 3: I think he got sick of getting hit, so he
just took his splid. I mean there were three defenders
right there.
Speaker 2: Well, it looked like he had made it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean on the replay it was he was
short on that one. There was another one where it
was at the forty five. He reached the forty five
and they spiled the ball at the forty four. He
barely got the first down. I'm like, he's at the
forty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was at the forty five. I don't it
seemed like there was some poor officiating.
Speaker 3: Albert Breer from s I tweeted this out and I
agree with him. He goes, there's got to be transparency
when the ball when when when the call goes to
New York Like the UFL Dean Blandino, you watch him
doing the replay live, so there is no hanky panky
that they show it live so that you know there's
not now. But it's the UFL, though, so who cares
right in the NFL. It's like, we can't let you know,
we can't let we got we got, we got game
out of this. So let's just let's just tell the reps, you.
Speaker 4: Know, pandom down at the d of circle and all this.
All right, what's the call from? Okay, all right, what's
gonna be short? Short?
Speaker 3: Yeah, virtual measurement says it's short. And the funny thing
is that they don't show you where the ball is
spotted before the virtual measurement. It's like a surprise, like, oh, okay,
they don't show you the ball spotted before the virtual measurement.
Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And when a guy from s I M m QB
is tweeting that out, that's that's a big deal because
they don't want to like tick off the NFL.
Speaker 2: They don't care. So, well, here's what we want to
I'm gonna back it up just a little bit because
this is the longest toush push that I have ever seen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the Alan carry.
Speaker 9: He's short.
Speaker 2: He's sure they just tant to time out. He's here,
the first down is there.
Speaker 10: He's short.
Speaker 9: Thing is that clocks on a one with his forty second?
Speaker 2: Who did Oh no, no, that looks like no, they
called for tax specs.
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, Come.
Speaker 2: On, man, come on boys, here we go, Danny. This
is the this is the moment.
Speaker 5: Okay, sure he's getting down right right side, that's up.
Speaker 2: Shout who are you?
Speaker 4: Were you watching figure skating on one of the other channels.
You came in like thirty seconds after he scored? Is
that a touchdown?
Speaker 2: No? Because it was such this drag drag dragon and
we couldn't tell if he was down or not. I
think there's someone standing in my blocking my purview. Now.
This is the debate where everyone wanted to know, like
what do we do? Do you want to be in?
It was giving them potentially a minute twenty minute sixteen,
a minute sixteen and when you.
Speaker 3: Watch the replay, I saw the referee go time out
and the clock kept going. CBS didn't stop the clock,
so it went down to a minute seven. And because
Tony Romeo, who just wouldn't shut up during this game,
he was awful. He was he had a couple of
good points for the most part, he just doesn't he
just doesn't let him.
Speaker 4: He's got to have the last rord before a commercial break.
He got to he has to keep talking everything up.
I don't know, Jim, I don't know.
Speaker 3: And it's like the clock's going and it's like I'm like,
wait a minute, didn't they stop the clock like eight
seconds ago?
Speaker 4: Which they did.
Speaker 3: They reset the clock, And I'm sitting to myself thinking
to myself, Okay, do we like Josh, like everybody, do
we just kind of stall to get into the end
zone here. But the problem is is that the more
plays you run, the more chances you get to cough
up the football, right, so or get hurt?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, one hundred percent and that and that's the
big worry as you move forward. I mean, it looked
like Josh at least in that first half and probably
throughout the game. I mean, he was just getting his
ass kicked. Oh gosh, this is so ugly, go.
Speaker 9: Rub that.
Speaker 2: I just see it.
Speaker 7: Well, no, they haven't, Bill gotta take a time out
otherwise they run the clock should be running now.
Speaker 2: The first of all, no.
Speaker 9: Start okay, and then the play clock in the game
clock what we only yelling get each other.
Speaker 2: So they got to snap the ball?
Speaker 10: Well do you see, like everybody gets loud and passionate,
and it's like it's chaos.
Speaker 3: I love I love that Greg had the presence of
mind when Will said taken knee, No, don't take it
to your going backwards. Somebody in the radio actually said
that they discussed that whether they should take any I'm like, no.
Speaker 4: You'd take a knee.
Speaker 3: You just keep plowing for it. If you get in,
you get in, all right. You let your defense play
the game. I know they can't little get well.
Speaker 2: They were trying to see if they can at least
have Josh let the play clock run down, because you
have twenty five seconds, right, and that could eat that
time off the clock.
Speaker 3: Was What happened was though Jacksonville called time out to
avoid the ten second runoff. So at that point it
didn't matter about the play clock. It was just about like, okay,
well how do we stall before you know jackson will
get the ball back.
Speaker 2: I want to I want to get to this one
part where Greg talks about something because I think you'll, yeah, yeah,
that drug.
Speaker 9: That's good game management by the Jacks coach. You take it,
bring it down. I would take it, take it very
forrard game. Actually I'm this, I would take it down.
Play clock what I think fine going And one time
I would I would kneel then.
Speaker 7: No, not in is in shut. This is why I
don't like McDermott.
Speaker 2: You sit down, you got me. I'm just freaking kneeling.
Speaker 5: You got it all the way down.
Speaker 7: If he kneels it and then wait and then it
freaking talk up.
Speaker 2: We're over the game's way? Why we got it?
Speaker 9: It so stressful?
Speaker 1: Why so streadful?
Speaker 2: It was pilly, don leave on hardballs.
Speaker 9: You got a minute last I.
Speaker 2: Was not a minute four three times coming. It was
a minute too. You got hold on, hold on, wait,
they had no time off.
Speaker 1: If he took a knee.
Speaker 2: Once, yeah, crater needs it would.
Speaker 1: Go down your head until twenty seconds.
Speaker 5: Fuck in the game.
Speaker 2: God, that's scared to sit in the show. I thought
that would be here hooks that same thing.
Speaker 9: If he had just taken the knee, he would had
forty seconds.
Speaker 5: He a would have.
Speaker 7: Gotten down the twenty If he takes the time out
for twenty seconds.
Speaker 2: And then scores, is that they got jesus? All right?
What do you think? Do you agree with.
Speaker 4: Alan said after the game, well we won, so yes.
In other words, yeah, I'm kind of thinking the same thing.
Speaker 3: I don't agree with taking the knee I thought Greg
like two minutes ago, said like, no, you can't take me.
Speaker 4: You're going backwards, abas saying to take a knee and everything.
Speaker 3: But that means you have to like get you have
to get in the end zone. I don't have all
your timeouts and the bills, but I mean, like you
got it at some point. It's not like this little
dude is gonna hit sixty seven yarders at will, Okay.
I mean like you saw him miss a kick earlier
in the game too, which was much closer than that.
The other thing, and here's the thing that I'm holding
my breath about at this point, is is Prater gonna
make the extra point?
Speaker 2: Yes? Because if that's where you heard me go, did
that scare the shit out of you too? Because it
went it looked like it hooked right in. But if
he comes so wide, it looked like it was going out.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Because if Prater makes the yeah, I held my breath
because it wobble a little bit. Because if Prater misses
that extra point, now we have like a situation like
you had in Pittsburgh last week with Baltimore. But you
know you don't want that because I don't know if
you I mean Jordan Hancock when Poyer went down, Jordan
Hancock got beat several plays, and that's where Lawrence looked
like he wanted to go. I mean, he had to
work the sidelines and everything else, and that one play
he had, that one pass he had to Meyers end
up being a huge mistake and tipped over. But I mean,
Prater's got to make that extra point because there's no like,
unless something freaky happens, Jacksonville's not going the length of
the field and scoring a touchdown.
Speaker 4: If they do, God bless him, they beat you. But
you know, I understand where.
Speaker 3: Greg's coming from because I felt the same way. But
once the ball's in the end zone, you gotta just
get out of that mentality. Yeah, I get it, But okay,
you scored, you have the lead, now you're deep.
Speaker 4: But just to go and win the game, right and.
Speaker 2: And then and I think we had the little faith
in that. But here we go. Let me just see
what good that? Wait?
Speaker 5: Are you that game?
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm in the The thing I
don't like about the one.
Speaker 7: The one thing about mc germout that I always questioned
it is his game manager.
Speaker 9: That is a perfect reflection of this horrible games management.
Speaker 2: And I'm talking about that we're good, okay, horrible game management.
This has been something Dan that I think, I think
that you have maybe alluded to at times, Peter has
I've heard people outright say it like it's bad, bad
game management at different times. Look, it's easier to It's
like the old thing, it's easier to find a job
when you have a job than it is when you
don't have a job, right, because there's all that pressure
on you. And I think it's easier maybe to look
at these things in a different lens when you win
the game and it worked out for you. But there
was a lot of time, and you're talking about a
team that lost a game within thirteen seconds, right.
Speaker 3: That's why we all have the faith for them to write,
you know, defense back on the field, because it was
Sean McDermott who really lost that game, right, the defensive guru.
You know, First, there was the miscommunication with the kickoff, which,
by the way, I didn't have a problem with them
kicking it into the end zone at that point against
Kansas City because I'd watched them, you know, screw up
a kick in the Music City miracle.
Speaker 7: So what is it.
Speaker 3: We just revert back to the last tragedy in Buffalo
Bill's history, and that's our basis for our thinkings. I mean,
but he's right, you know, McDermott is not a great
game manager. Not a lot of coaches are. There's only
a handful of them who really are. You know, like
Tom Coughlin was a good game manager toward the end
of the game in certain situations, you know. But I
mean even and they asked Sean McDermott about after the
game and he kind of like, you know, contradicted himself
a little bit.
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you know, I'm
right there with you.
Speaker 3: But if you can't get in the end zone that
we're having a different discussion about his clock management. Now
we're talking about, Okay, who needs to go at this point. Well,
there's so many different decisions in every decision.
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't believe and I don't know
where you stand on this that Sean McDermott would be
let go by the Buffalo Bills had they not won
this game.
Speaker 4: How I don't think.
Speaker 9: So.
Speaker 2: However, I wouldn't be surprised if Brandon Bean.
Speaker 3: Was I wouldn't be surprised if Brandon Bean is gone,
if they lose next week, or if they even if
they win next week and lose the following week.
Speaker 2: Why do you say that because look at the roster. Well,
this is the thing is like watching you're watching Washington
on the Jaguar. I don't know his first name, receiver.
Speaker 4: Yes, Parker Washington.
Speaker 2: He uh just was eating up the field and I
think he was a fifth round pick.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And did you watch did you watch Colston Loves Loveland
last night for the Chicago Bears?
Speaker 2: No, I had the game on I was doing.
Speaker 4: Did you watch Colby.
Speaker 3: Parkinson last night for the Rams? He made this Ballerina
type catch to win the game?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I did see that.
Speaker 4: Tight end. Cole, the kid I just.
Speaker 3: Mentioned from Chicago Loveland is a tight end. These guys
looked all world and my tight ends combined for three
catches today. Granted they were all big catches, but it's like,
who's taking over the game. Well, there's a reason because
there's more weapons with the Rams, so that gives more
opportunities to the tight end. There's more weapons with the Bears.
That gives more opportunities for the tight end. Okay, pick
our poison. Who's going to beat us? Well, if their
fourth best receiver beats us, okay, fine, we covered everybody else.
But with the Bills, it's like, who is your best target. Well,
if it's your tight end, that's where you're starting. It's
the Alta kincaid. And when he's on the field, right,
he's not always on the field. Like one of the
Bill's co owners of Tracy McGrady, Tracy McGrady the knockout
Tracy McGrady was, Yeah, if he would ever play a
complete season, he might be one of the ten greatest
NBA players ever, but he could never get out of
the court. Yeah, I got to take a month off
of hurt. I mean, you know, and like, you have
two guys who are gonna come under fire this year.
Well Mcrum's gonna come under fire, but he's not going anywhere.
Your strength and conditioning coach is going to come under fire.
And Brandon Bean because oh my goodness, like the roster
they have no receivers left.
Speaker 2: No and even defensively, you're starting to see, like I
thought a little bit of age and Joey Bosa Poyer
getting hurt and knocked out of the game.
Speaker 4: Por shouldn't be on the roster. I understand beyond the roster.
Speaker 2: But there were guys who were getting blown off the field,
and I don't think poor would have in that situation. No,
But then I saw Joey Bosa just trying to get
to the edge, and it's like, man, five years ago,
I think you were.
Speaker 4: Have got that he makes that play, but he wasn't
making that right right, and.
Speaker 2: That that's the That's the thing. I just want to
see if I can get to the end here to.
Speaker 3: Larry Okajobi was one of their two free agent signings
on the defensive line. He was inactive today healthy scratch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, free agent.
Speaker 3: Signing who by the way, uh was suspended the day
he was signed for six days for steroids.
Speaker 4: For steroids.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 9: He kicking in his own there.
Speaker 6: There you go.
Speaker 2: What's the insurance commercial now where they're like the player
turns and goes yeah, I hear.
Speaker 3: You like to the yeas Geico, it's it's the Florida Gators.
I think it was DJ Shockley. I don't he doesn't
play there anymore, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm trying. How you run the tide zone? Yeah?
Anything for you, Bud. Yeah, I'm trying.
Speaker 2: Here we go, we gotta go in the come on,
all right, the ship ship all right, there you go
a little chaos. It was certainly a lively group to
watch with. Uh take any guesses because you have been
there and you have seen Greg in his his pacing
and yelling, and there was a time where he did summersaults.
I don't know if you remember that. Pretty sure you
were there. We were sitting over at the island and
he was down on the front and he started doing summersaults.
He actually left and went outside because if they lost,
he thought he was He can't emotional and he didn't
want to be around. So once the interception happened, he
came back and it started yelling. But like he thought
for sure something bad was going to happen. But what
do you think is how many calories do you think
he burned during the game.
Speaker 4: I'd say about eleven hundred.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's a lot. That's a lot. Let me say, wait,
we have to go over this youse. You burnt how
many calories? According? Well, what are you checking here? What
what device is this? You gotta charge the oop, the loop,
the WOP, w h Okay, I know I wouldn't. That's
my only thing.
Speaker 6: I learned, no rate, So my maximum heart rate was
one hundred and fifty four, and I burned three hundred
and eleven calaries during the game.
Speaker 2: I don't think. I really think. At one point I
looked after him spin and I don't know. I think
he burned more calories than I did in the spin
class earlier.
Speaker 3: This week we're talking about three hour game though, one
hundred calories and hours up normal, that's really not a thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I was sitting. I don't I didn't
burn that. I was sitting. He's pacing, he's running, the
sweating his heart rates up to one hundred and fifty four.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't tell how a long workout.
Speaker 4: That's ideally yes, because.
Speaker 6: I think that is a stronger team than the Steelers. Yeah,
they played tomorrow, they play Monday night in Pittsburgh. We
got to have Pittsburgh beat the Sextons. Yes, we would
then play at Pittsburgh next.
Speaker 2: Week, okay, which we were there and right, and if
we beat.
Speaker 6: The Steelers and then the Chargers play and the Chargers play,
the Patriots win tonight beat the beat the Patriots.
Speaker 9: The Chargers that then.
Speaker 2: Play at Denver. Okay, the Chargers in Denver and the
anc West.
Speaker 6: The Chargers have already beaten Denver this year, so then
the Chargers beat the Broncos. We would then host the
Chargers in Orchard Park the AFT Championship.
Speaker 2: Okay, and that's what we wanted.
Speaker 6: That's the Championship in or and then that would be
the real final game at high Mark.
Speaker 2: I like it. I like the way you think, ye
Blizzard Brew time.
Speaker 9: Yes, you got the snowboards.
Speaker 2: We need more, but like Blizzard bo, I'm gonna go by.
Did you know they made a bud light Blizzard Brew
with snow from high Mark Stadium? Yeah?
Speaker 7: It.
Speaker 2: So he had it there and I had it, and
I go, oh, just a hint of urine. Danny had
a little technical difficulty, so we lost him there. But
I will say I think Greg laid it out great
for the final game to be at high Mark Stadium,
the a FC Championship game, it would have to be
the Steelers beating the Texans, the Chargers beating New England,
the Chargers beating Denver, US beating the Steelers, and we'd
be back at Hei Mark Stadium. I think that's the
way we would all like to see it. See the
stadium close out, maybe see the everything. I just would
be insane. Could you imagine if they win the AFC
Championship in Buffalo and then go to the Super Bowl.
I mean, come on, it would be insane.
Speaker 10: For Dan Burrello, for Greg Connors and his fun crew
that I was with over there, Billy Dolan, Charlie Fox,
I'm Moran, I'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Didn't know what to do,