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How are you tonight?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 1: I'm good Big Bears fans and Chicago Bears fan No, okay,

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just checking? Is the name? Act? Are you from? Wisconsin?

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Speaker 2: Is that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Okay? Cool?

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Speaker 2: Cool?

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Speaker 1: Cool? A big city, small city. You don't have any details.

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I'm not going to ask your zip code.

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Speaker 2: I'm a country girl, country girl, but I do I

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like the city. I like both city and country.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's what But did you I'll relate

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it and you'll see I promise you did you grow

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up in a small town or a big town.

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Speaker 2: I grew up in the woods.

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Speaker 1: In the woods, in the woods woods. Okay, good, Uh

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that's interesting. So let me ask how did you initially

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decide to get into this industry and when were you

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like this is the jump I'm gonna make.

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Speaker 2: It was in January of twenty twenty one. I didn't

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even know what OnlyFans was. I just somebody mentioned it

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to me. I made a TikTok and it wasn't I

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was nobody on TikTok. I think I had maybe a

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hundred followers. And somebody that I know had said, oh,

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before you know it, yoba y'a only fans, and he

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was kind of just making it sound like I'm going

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to be this big thing, and I was like, oh yeah.

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And I didn't even know what it was. So I

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asked myself. I started doing a little bit of research

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after a while, like what is OnlyFans? So I did

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some research on it and I found out what it was.

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And I reached out to my sister and I told her,

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I think, have you ever heard of this? And she said, yeah,

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it's for celebrities, and I told her, I don't know

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if it is, and she's then she went and researched

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it and she found out what it was, so then

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she told me about it. Well, the only reason I

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started looking up stuff was because I was trying to

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leave my ex husband and I told I told my sister.

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I was like, this is my chance to leave him

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if this can make money. So I only me. I

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had no idea that the amount of money you could make.

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All I knew was I could make enough to leave

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and live on my own.

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Speaker 1: That's at the same At the same time, that's to me.

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I feel bad for you in that situation. You have

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to get away from somebody. I understand that, But it's

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also the other half of it is that's so empowering

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that it worked for you. For a lot of women

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it probably doesn't work for them. But I also read

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some stuff about you that you didn't treat this as

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like I'm sexy, I'm good looking. I could probably make

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money off of this. I read you like really delved

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into almost I don't want to use the word science,

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but maybe the science of how social media works, how

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reach works. Is that true?

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Speaker 2: Yes, all I went into it. When I first started,

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I didn't even advertise I was an only fans. I

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would just make videos on TikTok that I liked making,

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like get mo skit, and I wanted people to be

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my friend, so I thought, well, if they're my friend

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on here, they'll want to subscribe to me smart or

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if they think I'm funny, they'll want to subscribe to

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me because I did out of Sandler.

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Speaker 1: TikTok said, you know, it doesn't it doesn't hurt that

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you're gorgeous as well, So that's a good transition. I

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guess from that to that it was smart move in

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that way. Did you just like it or was it

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strictly out of necessity because you needed to get out

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of yourself, or did you learn to like it as

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soon as you delved into it. Was it complicated at

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all when you got into like the social media stuff

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and how you would do this and how you would

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do that, or was it something that you kind of

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started to really get into once you saw it.

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Speaker 2: I did live streaming and I figured out everything on

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my own. I did a little bit of brand deals

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before I did this, and I was taught how to

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my marketing and the marketing part was very easy to

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me because I didn't look at it as if I'm

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good looking, I'll get subscribers. I looked at it as

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I needed to build a connection so that I can

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get subscribers, because anybody can look pretty, but you got

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to make sure that you're doing it right. So I

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just it kind of just clicked with me, and I

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interacted with my fans, especially on live streaming. Live streaming

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was the biggest thing, and I realized once I posted

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a video, I would go live, and then that video

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would get pushed out. I would live stream like all

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night long.

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Speaker 1: I ask women. I've asked women this in the past,

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but I'm wondering again, as somebody with you know, knowledge

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of how this stuff works, do you who do you

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think would be more successful in the industry. And it

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kind of goes back to what you said. There a

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girl who's just a ten out of ten gorgeous, knockout

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superstar girl but doesn't really know social media that well.

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Or a girl who and I hate to rank women,

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but please understand what I'm trying to do here, a

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girl who's maybe a six out of ten but really

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engages and works the social media and knows the algorithms.

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I would personally say the second girl would be the

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more successful of the two, because you're right, it's not

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so much about just who's gorgeous. There's a million gorgeous

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women in the world. It's like, who do I have

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a connection with? Who do I like seeing her Adam

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Sandler videos and they actually make me laugh, not like

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most of the shit I'm flipping through online. So that's

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so smart to build that personal thing. Now you've grown

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exponentially since then, I would assume, obviously you have to.

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How are you staying personable? Do you ever reach out?

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Do you talk to your fans at all? Or now?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I still answer all my adms on my own.

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Speaker 1: How do you have the time? How many hours are

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in your day?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Well, sorry, what was that?

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Speaker 2: I too many hours? I make time for it.

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Speaker 1: You have to, it's your job, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I could hire somebody and I could go

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live my life by going and doing stuff, you know,

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like going for a hike. Well, I'll have somebody answer

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my DMS and I don't have to worry about it.

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Or I guess I could just sit down and answer

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my DMS and then go for a walk. I'm just.

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I know so many people tell me that I need

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management because it makes life so much easier, but I

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just can't have somebody controlling my account for me. I just,

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I'm just it's sort of like a control thing for

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me because I've never had the freedom. So I'm just

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worried that if somebody were to be Let's say, I

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need somebody just to help me to send videos for

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people fans that ask for certain videos, and maybe that

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could be an option, but what if they messed it

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up or something. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Sure, no, that makes total sense. You've and you know

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what you said, you lived in the woods. I assume

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it wasn't a big giant mansion in the woods. You

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weren't like a huge rich family. Okay, neither neither was

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I right? And sometimes I'll be up till four or

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five in the morning editing my comedy show or one

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of these episodes, and it'll get a good amount of views.

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But I put them out for free. I don't really

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make any money off of them. Why do I do this?

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not having recognition, not having whatever, And I've worked my

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way up to this point to be able to do this.

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I see it as kind of the same thing with you.

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Maybe maybe you started out in a place where you

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were in a bad spot. You turned it around all

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on your own and built this thing. This empire is

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a big word. That's more like millions and millions and millions,

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like a little empire, no offense, you know. But we're

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talking a lot a lot here. I understand not wanting

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to give control up of that, Like what if what

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if someone messes it up? What if someone gets mad

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at you, the person you're paying, and they tweet something

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shitty or something nasty or something like that, then what

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are you doing? Are you apologizing the rest of the day.

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Oh my god, I'm so sorry. That wasn't me. Da

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da da da da. Some people won't believe you. You'll

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lose some fans. I don't know. I think it's smart.

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I think it's smart. I just think it's probably becomes

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overwhelming after a certain amount of time, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just know that I have I know a

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lot of people that I'm friends with, and they have

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people that run certain social media accounts for them, which,

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in reality, any kind of business that is taking off

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and they want to do more in their business. They

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have to have some sort of assistance because if you're

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so obviously I don't have assistance. But if I did

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have somebody who was helping me run my social media accounts,

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I could make more content. Sure, that's the only other thing.

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I could make more content, and I could make more

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of the things that I want to do. So that

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is that is one thing that I don't think people

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look at, especially fans, say, but I personally, I have

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time to answer my dms. I mean, I make time

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for it. It doesn't it's not really a big deal

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to me because I mean it's just in my routine.

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The only thing that I probably could I did have

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a video editor for just a short period of time

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and then I figured, oh, I can do it on

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my own. But I think in the near future I

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might hire somebody to do my video editing for me,

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and maybe a couple other things. But I don't mind

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answering my dms. I'm not at the point where I

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have thousands of dms on OnlyFans, just enough to where

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I'm good. But I've learned ways to where I'm not

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going to get influx of messages because in the in

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the middle of when I started growing really big, I

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started doing something a certain way where I was just

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getting way too many dms and I could not keep

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up with it. And then I had I talked to

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some people and they told me that I need to

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do it this way otherwise you're gonna you're going to

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burn yourself out because all you're doing is creating all

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these messages that they like. Usually if and it's just

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simply like somebody saying something simple that didn't really actually

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need a reply, If that makes sense, like it wasn't

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really necessary for them to send a DM. It's kind

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of hard to explain.

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Speaker 1: No, I kind of get No, I get that that

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makes sense to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So for me to cut time, I needed to

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do less of certain things so that I don't create

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more work than I need to.

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Speaker 1: Sure. Sure. So then what you're saying is there may

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be time in the future when you bring people onto

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your quote unquote staff, but they will not likely be

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customer fan audience facing at all. That's you. That bridge

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between you and the audience is that maybe editing, maybe

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this over here or something else, but not between you

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and your fans. When people go to Wisconsin Underscore tif

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on Only Fans they're getting you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Oh and it's actually Wisconsin Underscore Tiff is on

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my Twitter. My Only Fans is Wisconsin Tip. It's just

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one word.

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready sure it's one word.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: If it's a web address, yeah, I think it would

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be one word right where they can.

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Speaker 2: Find me on Wisconsin tif dot com.

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Speaker 1: That's even easy. No, I understand, I'm in fact, I'll

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go back and edit the audio later. So okay, they're

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just going to think you're crazy like you shouted out

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the same thing I said, because moms say it earlier.

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All right, well we're going to take a break in

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one second. Well, let me make sure I do this correctly,

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because that is important. That sounded snarky. I swear to

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god it wasn't. Plugs are like the most important thing

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to me. If you give me your time, I want

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to make sure people go to your stuff. So please, folks,

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head over on OnlyFans and check out Wisconsin Tiff OnlyFans

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dot com slash Wisconsin Tiff. No Underscore Underscore is Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Good links to all of that is in the episode

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description though, so if you're listening to this right now,

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head down there, click follow. Even if you're not going

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to sign up for her Only Fans. If you don't

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have it right now, whatever, find a way to make it.

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least throw likes up there. Get her in the algorithm

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because it helps. Everything helps, everything helps. My guest tonight

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was Constant Tiff. We will be right back after this,

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and we're back. My guest tonight, Wisconsin Tiff. You can

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find her on Only Fans at Wisconsin Tiff and make

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sure you go to the episode description below and like

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and follow and do everything you can because she is

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a phenomenal performer. I used the excuse to my wife

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last night. I'm just doing research. I swear to God,

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I'm just checking her stuff out because i'm researching it.

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I am a big fan of your content. You produce

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some really phenomenal stuff. I do want to play a

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game with you today. How are you with words? Yeah?

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Me too, me too. So what I have for you

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today is a game called Lude Letters. Let me give

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you the rules for Lude Letters. I'm gonna give you

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some short questions and you give me the answer. Here's

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the easy part there's no correct answer. As long as

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you say something, you get a point. But here's the

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shitty part. Your answer has to begin with a randomly

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selected letter. So prior to the show, I picked a letter.

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Your letter is gonna be F. So when I say

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this right, name a car brand.

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Speaker 2: Ferrari.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Okay, See, you got the game perfect,

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nailed it. You are going to have because I'm not

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a hack, sixty nine seconds on the clock to try

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and answer ten of these questions. Some girls whiz through

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these and I had my wife try it on me

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and I got about three of them, so I don't know.

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Then we had on a girl who claimed she was

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dyslexic and got ten of them, so who knows. But Tiff,

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are you ready to play this game? We understand it right.

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My letter is f F as in frank as in

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something else. Okay, cool, I'm going to start the clock and.

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Speaker 2: Go.

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Speaker 1: Name a sex position or act, frontal name, something to drink,

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fonta name, a body part to come on, faith, a

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female name, Fiona, porn website. Oh, you can pass as well,

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and we'll come back to it if you like.

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Speaker 2: Pass.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, name a fashion brand something you like

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about a male performer.

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Speaker 2: Funny.

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Speaker 1: Name a food brand, right, I don't know, coming up

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on time? There you go, there you go. Sure, name

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a celebrity you'd.

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Speaker 3: Fuck, breakstra, make up a porn title, foot Daddy time, wonderful, wonderful.

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I'm gonna have to go

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back in and editing and fix that, folks, because I

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set that for rather than sixty nine seconds one hour

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and nine minutes. But you did phenomenal on that TIF.

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I cannot, for the life of me when I fill

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these out, I have to like google like drinks that

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begin with F because I blank entirely. But you have

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that performer, gene. That's just what it is. What kind

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of did you have any kind of anxiety jumping into

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this or was it was it like freeing for you

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to be able to like start expressing your sexuality or

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were you comfortable expressing your sexuality beforehand.

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Speaker 2: I had never done anything like this before, so when

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I first started, I didn't post any nudes anyways, So

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me posting ludes and like, I wasn't worried about it.

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My ex husband knew what I was doing because I

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told them, so I didn't want to post nudes anyways,

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because I didn't want him getting mad at me because

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I told him that I'm only doing bikini photos and

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I'm only showing my boobs out my life streams. And

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he knew I was leaving him, but he didn't want

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me to. He didn't think I was going to leave him.

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But to make it sound like I'm not doing anything bad,

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I'm just showing, you know, bikini photos. He didn't think

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i'd be making a lot. But my first month not

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even posting like any nudes, I made like six thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: That's that's crazy. Like I said, you obviously you are gorgeous.

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I mean you're a gorgeous girl, and like you said,

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you're very personal. I've interviewed. I also do a sideshow

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where I interview new performers. I try and get them

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some exposure to the industry. Also tell them stuff I've learned,

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whatever else. I've met some absolutely gorgeous girls that update

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every day and have about three hundred followers, and like

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nobody on only fans, they make like one hundred bucks.

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So what is I don't want you to give away

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the special sauce, but like, what is a tip or something?

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You could give to somebody who's starting out on OnlyFans

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that you really think, like, focus in on this and

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you will be successful.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I don't mind sharing. I mean there's

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a few reasons why I'm at where I'm at. So

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the one thing is getting yourself out there, not just

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relying on Twitter, because Twitter is not my main source

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of getting subscribers. That's just like a portfolio. So when

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fans on other places come to there and they say

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they see what I have, and they even looking at

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your Twitter is going to kind of determine how the

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quality of your content is. So if you don't have

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if your lighting is bad, if the sound is bad,

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if it's just a mess in the background, and it

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might kind of turn fans off because it looks like

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you're not putting any effort in. I mean, you don't

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have to be perfect, but at least make it look

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somewhat presentable, and as you grow, you get better and better.

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The other thing is the one thing that sets me

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aside from I started at a really bad time in

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my life and I had guys I felt like they

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needed to save me. And that wasn't even me doing

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it on purpose. I was really in a desperate situation

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where I needed to leave, and I was not really

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good in the headspace because I was I was abused

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and manipulated my entire life. So how I thought I

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was being I thought was normal. So when I look back,

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I look like, oh my gosh, she's so desperate to leave,

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she's gonna like she would get sad and she would

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tell her subscribers that she's sad or she I would

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start crying because my ex husband said something to me

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and I and they felt like they were responsible for

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saving me. Now today I'm in a much better position

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where I don't need to cry on my stories to

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make them feel like I didn't do it to make

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them feel bad for me. I really was in a

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really bad place.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, and thank god you're out of that now,

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you know. I mean, you know, hey, congratulations, you made it.

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There's so many other women that haven't yet, though, So

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I think it's great that you're willing to share information

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and stuff like that. I think it's it's kind of you, actually,

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but that was your situation, other girls' situation, So I

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guess the advice would probably be, like, just try and

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show people your real self. Maybe unless you're real despicable,

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then don't do that, Like if you're a dirt bag, don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, when you're online, you know, your persona is

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a little different than when you're I mean, you don't

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want to be you don't want to come off as

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too relatable because I mean, that's just the part with

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anything on social media. With your fans is going to

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be the biggest thing. But there are people in the

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industry that are huge and they don't really do a

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lot on OnlyFans, but they still get so many subscribers

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because they started off as streamers. Like I'm trying to

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think of one for an example, there's so many. It's like,

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how the hell did they get so much? How did

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they get so many fans and they do so little

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on their only fans, And there's so many who do

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a lot and that I mean, and there are people

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who make way more than me, and I could be

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doing a lot more, I mean, but I only have

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the capacity to do so much. It's just I mean,

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I guess you just can't compare yourself to somebody else

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who's doing better. But I'm trying to think of the

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one she has red hair, Amara, Oh, she's never done porn.

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She's just she's like more of like a streamer, and

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then she got really big on OnlyFans and then she

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does a bunch of other stuff too, like she runs

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a marketing sure, and it's like, how did she I mean,

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because she was big on twitch, but I mean, how

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did she get so big on OnlyFans?

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Speaker 1: Well? I mean that's kind of like when these celebrities

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get podcast deals for forty million dollars and they've never

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podcasted before. Certain people, like certain guys in the industry,

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and I go, like, I've done five hundred episodes, I've

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interviewed world known celebrities, blah blah blah. Where is mine?

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But if you bring it in with an audience, But

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that doesn't mean the quality is going to be there.

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And my personal thing is I think quality wins out

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in the end. It always does. Yeah, I don't know,

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so let me Okay, that's an interesting question. So no,

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I'm not trying to put these words in your mouth,

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but I'm going to ask because there's almost like levels,

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even as nice of the porn community as it is, Like,

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I really it's odd how in it everyone is in

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together like everyone is there's a lot of people who

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are always trying to help out other people. I see

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behind the scenes and this and that, and it really

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surprised me. I would think it would be more of

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like a stripper type atmosphere, a little bit caddy, a

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little bit fighting over this or that, and it doesn't

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seem that way. Let me ask, are there types of

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performers or whatever that you look at and might be like,

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come on, they don't do what I do? Because for

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a while, big mainstream porn star girls were looking at

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OnlyFans girls going like, they don't do what I do.

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Come on now, is there anybody like in the chain

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of media where you're kind of like, oh, come on now,

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step it off, get your shit together.

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Speaker 2: I don't really look at people like that because I'm

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so busy with my own, but I do know that

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there are people in the industry that do compare a lot,

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and or some people might be much bigger than I am.

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It might look down on somebody who is not as big,

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or some people only want to talk to people if

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they have a following, and or or there's people who

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are don't have a large following and they like to

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do a lot of coaching. I feel that when it

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comes to the industry people, I mean, they're willing to

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help each other out, but at the end of the day,

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everybody's for themselves.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, yeah, and but you know what, you are

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all independent contractors, So yeah, the truth of the matter is,

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but I assume that doesn't stop you from doing collaborations

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or anything like that or no, do not do any

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of that type of stuff.

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Speaker 2: I do collapse. I'm very I wouldn't say I'm picky,

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but I want to work with people who I feel

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connected to. I don't want to just work with somebody

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just because I want to work with them, or I

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don't care what they're fining. Following is I don't care

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if they have a huge following, because followings don't mean

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anything because people have had allegations against them with large followings,

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and they think because they have a large following that

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they're they're excluded from being canceled or they can do

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things and get away with it. But I don't look

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at I don't care if somebody has a large following.

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I care more about if they can follow directions and

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they kind of get the marketing stuff, because the marketing

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is the biggest thing that's going to get you subscribers.

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It doesn't matter how many sex tapes you make. It

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doesn't matter if you make a sex tape once a week.

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That's not going to make you the money. The money

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is in the marketing because you got to bring an

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00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:49,880
audience in.

477
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it seems like it's probably fifty to fifty

478
00:26:54,079 --> 00:26:58,440
because if you had phenomenal marketing with shit content, they

479
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,039
wouldn't come back for episode two. But if you had

480
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,440
the most beautiful scene in the world, this could win

481
00:27:06,039 --> 00:27:08,720
you know, an Oscar if there wasn't a double anal

482
00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:12,400
in it. It doesn't matter if you're not marketing it anywhere, Like, yeah,

483
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,359
you'll get the passerby on many VIDs or whatever it is.

484
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,599
But aside from that, who fucking cares? You know, I

485
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,799
don't see it, so I don't know it. You've done

486
00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:24,359
a couple mainstream shoots, one mainstream shoot. How many have

487
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,160
you done so far?

488
00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: I've done I think I've done like six for Private Society,

489
00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:36,720
and then I've done a bunch for Tap Whole Studio,

490
00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:44,759
and then I've done PERV. Yes, I was going to

491
00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:47,920
do a shoot with him a few weeks ago, but

492
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,640
I wasn't ready to do anal. Actually I don't remember

493
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,279
what the thing was, but I ended up doing a

494
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:58,079
content trade with Claudio. He's the owner of it, so

495
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,319
we ended up just doing a content trade. I can't

496
00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:02,680
remember why I wasn't able to do a shoot. It

497
00:28:02,759 --> 00:28:05,200
was like the time, the time he needed me, I

498
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,640
wasn't able to be available for that.

499
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,599
Speaker 1: So but yeah, yeah, very cool. Okay, do you like

500
00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:11,759
shooting mainstream stuff?

501
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 2: Yes? I like shooting with Private Society, and I don't

502
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,640
know when I'm shooting with them again, but I do like,

503
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,119
I do like doing shoots with.

504
00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: Them the rest. So so are we ever going to

505
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,880
see you on Brassiers dot com someday?

506
00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think.

507
00:28:29,799 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: Just as an example, okay, I personally.

508
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,039
Speaker 2: Prefer Private Society because of its raw.

509
00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:39,119
Speaker 1: He's going to use the word raw. Yeah, Private society

510
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:44,480
is always like in in the best way possible, the

511
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,480
most drowned out lighting sometimes and then they'll pull it

512
00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:49,319
back a little bit and it's like perfect. It's it's

513
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,319
the type of scenes at private Society where I could

514
00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:55,119
be like, oh, if they had unlicensed music in the background,

515
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,680
I would understand why they had that, Like that's why

516
00:28:57,799 --> 00:29:00,559
metallic is playing in the background, but they're very professional

517
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:04,559
and everything like that. They've been around forever, so that's

518
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,359
part of the thing. When I talk to a lot

519
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,279
of the big name performers, a lot of them tell

520
00:29:08,319 --> 00:29:10,960
me they make most of their money from OnlyFans, and

521
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,839
the mainstream sites are more of a great advertisement, right,

522
00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:19,200
Like Wisconsin tif is a You know, you were doing

523
00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:22,640
phenomenal on your own, but I wonder how many other

524
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,319
subscribers would come in if you had it slapped across

525
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,599
the top of like New Scene, Wisconsin, tiff at teamskeet

526
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,960
dot com, blah blah blah. It's definitely possible that it

527
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,799
would boost you, but again, you would be giving up

528
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,039
some of your control or your control of the content.

529
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: Right.

530
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:43,599
Speaker 1: Is that why you're kind of iffy on taking those

531
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,160
mainstream shoots? Are they just not your thing?

532
00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:48,559
Speaker 2: It's because of that, because I can make a lot

533
00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:53,480
more on my own not having a middleman. I feel

534
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:58,759
that private society has brought me in so many subscribers,

535
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,000
so I really like them, so I think filming with

536
00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:05,160
them is worth it because I do get traction from them.

537
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:09,039
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, cool, very cool. Yeah, Yeah, I just I

538
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,000
was wondering from the marketing aspect, but again you're killing it.

539
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,279
So what Let me ask you this, what is a

540
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,400
kinker of fetish that you developed when you got into

541
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,000
the adult entertainment industry that you maybe didn't realize you

542
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:21,759
had before this?

543
00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:26,119
Speaker 2: Pretty much the only kings that I do are the

544
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:31,480
older man age gap stuff. I don't really have any other.

545
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,960
I mean, I do feet stuff here and there, and

546
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,279
but stuff, but I and pe stuff. I guess the

547
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,279
piece stuff is what When I started, I had that

548
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,240
not on my radar at all because I was only

549
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,440
on only fans. But on fansly I do I post

550
00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:52,160
like I post Pea videos and stuff that you can't

551
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,759
post on only fans. Sure, I guess Pea videos are

552
00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:58,599
the one thing that I thought I would never be

553
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:05,279
posting on a site and guys would like it.

554
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,519
Speaker 1: What they do? Yeah, I mean I guess I get

555
00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:11,440
Maybe have you learned this because I've learned this really

556
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,160
And I know this sounds like a simple statement, but

557
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,440
it seems like there's a guy for every fetish, and

558
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,359
for a lot of shit that you didn't realize was

559
00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:22,440
a fetish, there's a guy for that too. Have you

560
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,720
had request have you ever had any requests where obviously

561
00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:27,799
when I ask for names and no one would know

562
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:31,319
these names anyway, but have you had requests from people

563
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,400
that you had to almost like, if you ask that again,

564
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,880
I got to block you. Man, Like, that's a weird one,

565
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,480
and that's a rough one. I am all about not

566
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,759
kink shaming and not fetish shaming and whatever, but you know,

567
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,160
sometime you know there's limits, there's limits to what people

568
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,559
are even interested in seeing in their inbox.

569
00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:56,079
Speaker 2: I haven't had to. Usually men are very respectful to

570
00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:58,440
me when I tell them I can't do it. Yeah,

571
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,680
so they I tell them, I I just tell them,

572
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,359
I'm like, hey, I'm really not comfortable doing that. I mean,

573
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,279
but I can. I can always try something else. But

574
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,599
I mean, and they're usually pretty respectful. But the weirdest

575
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,759
one I almost did. But I was like, no, because

576
00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:15,920
what if I stop all of this and I have

577
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,000
that video out. That's the only one I don't want

578
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:23,279
people saying. He wanted me to put an adult diaper

579
00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:26,440
on and pe in it. And I was going to

580
00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:28,920
because I was like, well, that's like really easy money,

581
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,039
I mean, just pe in it. But then I started thinking,

582
00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:34,400
I'm like no, because if I stop this one day,

583
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,599
I don't care if if the other stuff is out there,

584
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,519
because it's just you know, I don't care if somebody

585
00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:42,799
seeds me pee I mean, because everybody peeves, but I

586
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:47,240
don't want me. I don't know if that would get

587
00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:50,119
out anywhere people watching me p in a diaper, that

588
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:53,440
would just be that would just that would just be like,

589
00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:55,079
don't don't ask me about that.

590
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: You would either lose a bunch of subscribers if you

591
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,440
did put that out publicly, or you would gain a

592
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,400
whole bunch, but you'd have all new requests that would

593
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,559
be coming in every day.

594
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: And no, I don't want to be and I a divert.

595
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:12,960
I don't know.

596
00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:17,039
Speaker 1: You'd be going to Costco buying the industrial size one

597
00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:18,240
and they'd be like, oh, do you have a new

598
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,319
little one at home? Be like, no, these are adult size.

599
00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:22,880
Actually this is for me. By the way, here's my

600
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:30,279
black card. Charge it to this. Yeah. So okay, all right,

601
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:32,519
I want to take one more break. We'll come right back.

602
00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:34,400
I want to talk about what we're going to do

603
00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:38,160
in the future, what you have planned, what you'd like

604
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,319
to plan, this and that. My guest tonight the Beautiful,

605
00:33:41,359 --> 00:33:44,160
the Wonderful Wisconsin Tiff. You can find her on OnlyFans

606
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,000
at Wisconsin Tiff and follow her across all social media.

607
00:33:48,039 --> 00:33:52,119
Those links are in the episode description. As always, we'll

608
00:33:52,160 --> 00:34:04,000
be right back. All right, We're back with my guest,

609
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:07,160
Wisconsin Tiff. You can find are on OnlyFans at Wisconsin Tiff,

610
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,280
Nice and Easy, and Wisconsin tiff dot com is links

611
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,639
to everything you do, beautiful wonderful. Make sure you go there. Folks,

612
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:17,800
you touched on a few things. Let's jump back into

613
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,239
the diaper. I'm just kidding. I don't want to talk

614
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,679
about the diaper thing anymore, but you do have somewhat

615
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,760
of an interesting thing that you're known for. It seems

616
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,400
like that I've seen articles written about you. Could you

617
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,920
tell me the audience what that is?

618
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,519
Speaker 2: Age gap porn?

619
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: Okay? Now, is that something that you realized was just

620
00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:43,079
gonna make you like successful in this industry? Or have

621
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:46,639
you always been like attracted to older guys?

622
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: I mean I do hang out with older men outside

623
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:55,239
of the of this this work. I started marketing older

624
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,840
men back when I first started OnlyFans. I made a

625
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:03,360
video I was trying to test things out to get subscribers.

626
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:08,360
So I made a video about older men, and it

627
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,480
got a lot of views and got me a lot

628
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,960
of a lot of subscribers. So I told my sister

629
00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:16,440
about it. I said, oh, my gosh, I just got

630
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,599
a bunch of subscribers because they've posted about older men,

631
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:22,519
like they're so nice, They're so much nicer to me,

632
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,840
and they're so much easier because I wouldn't say easier,

633
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,920
but it's like, I don't know what it is about

634
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,000
me that they want. They like me so much, so

635
00:35:33,039 --> 00:35:34,800
I'm just going to keep me nice to them. I

636
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,519
just thought, like they're the nicer ones to me. So

637
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:40,039
I just kept marketing it. And then and then one

638
00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:43,480
day somebody asked if I was ever going to make

639
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,719
a video with an older man, and I and last

640
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,679
year was the first time I made a sex tape

641
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,760
with an older man. I never made any sex tapes

642
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,039
until like a year ago, like a little over a

643
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:57,000
year ago. But I my first sex tape was with

644
00:35:57,039 --> 00:35:59,800
somebody who was older than me, just not like an older,

645
00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:03,480
older man. But last year was the year that I

646
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:07,159
started filming with with older man older man sex tapes.

647
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,119
So once I once I started doing that, I started

648
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:13,360
blowing up more. But I just always was making tiktoks

649
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,840
about older men and they would always just blow up,

650
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,719
and they were just the nicest guy to me, So

651
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,440
I just stuck with it.

652
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:26,639
Speaker 1: They're probably appreciative, right, I mean it's like this, you know,

653
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,400
any any can I ask? What was the age gap

654
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,000
in that big one you shot?

655
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: Eighty eight? Wait?

656
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: He was eighty? Uh huh you were how old?

657
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,079
Speaker 2: I'm thirty six, but I was thirty four. It was

658
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:46,559
right before I turned thirty five.

659
00:36:46,599 --> 00:36:49,599
Speaker 1: Okay, so forty six year age gap right there. I

660
00:36:49,639 --> 00:36:52,320
thought you when I thought you said an eighty year

661
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,039
age gap. So I was like, oh, he was one

662
00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:57,880
hundred and what then that's terrifying. You shouldn't do that.

663
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,440
Was it scary at all? No?

664
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: I was already having sex with older men.

665
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,599
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. Was it scary like you might

666
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:07,840
kill him?

667
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: No?

668
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,599
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, fair enough, I didn't.

669
00:37:11,639 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: I didn't like whenever I do a sex tape with

670
00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:18,280
a guy. I mean, I've had my fans see raw

671
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,679
footage of like the Virgin sex tape. I usually am

672
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,920
like I sometimes won't edit some of the stuff out

673
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,760
so they can kind of see, like Oh, she's I

674
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,960
love how you just talk to him and you kind

675
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,280
of guide him. I like, I just I tell them,

676
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,480
if you're uncomfortable, just let me know and we'll try

677
00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:43,960
something else. And I don't go into it being like crazy.

678
00:37:44,039 --> 00:37:45,840
I guess it depends on what the sex tape is.

679
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,559
But no, I wasn't worried.

680
00:37:48,159 --> 00:37:51,199
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I would be terrified if I was

681
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,360
that old to have a girl as beautiful as you,

682
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,280
I wouldn't be terrified. I would go, this is gonna

683
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,800
be my last time on earth. That's fine, but I'm

684
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,760
gonna die the happiest man in the world after this.

685
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:05,840
While attack, Yes, So what is coming up? What type

686
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,559
of content are you looking forward to produce? It almost

687
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:11,880
sounds like and this is not this is not a

688
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,679
shot because it's actually working really well for you. It

689
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,159
almost seems like you are so comfortable in your control,

690
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,719
which is such an amazing place to be in for

691
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,480
a content creator, someone who understands what their audience wants,

692
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,280
knows what they are capable of making, and wants to

693
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,880
make that. But it almost seems like like you're not

694
00:38:33,199 --> 00:38:36,760
trying to expand out. I don't mean new subscribers. I

695
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,079
mean new things this and that. Am I wrong on that?

696
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,760
And if I am, please correct me.

697
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 2: I haven't really been doing much different. I mean I

698
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,119
did some gang bangs here and there, I mean a lot.

699
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,000
I'm kind of just putting those to the side for

700
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:54,320
a while because I did. I keep having people ask

701
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,800
me for more of them, but it's it's very exhausting

702
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,519
doing those, even though I go down to Chicago to

703
00:39:01,559 --> 00:39:05,199
do them. It's just it burns a lot of my

704
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,440
energy because it's just a lot. I haven't done a

705
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,039
gang bang in a while, and I'm okay with that

706
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,960
because when I am ready, it'll get them more excited

707
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,920
and want to look forward to it. I like to

708
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,280
go in little breaks where I don't want to do

709
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,519
something too much because then they'll get bored of it

710
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:27,599
and then they'll be like, oh, I haven't seen her

711
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:29,280
do that in a while, and then I say, oh,

712
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,920
I'm going to do it. But I just been doing

713
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,239
older men and guys kind of my age too a

714
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,719
little bit here and there, because I keep having guys

715
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,239
my age asking me to just do tapes with third

716
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,960
age range, and I just I offer that too, but

717
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:52,360
it's not really something I prefer. The older men stuff, because,

718
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,519
for one, it's a shock value for when I do

719
00:39:57,639 --> 00:40:01,679
my marketing, and it's fun. I like making people mad

720
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:08,039
and I like making people feel surprised. So yeah, I

721
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:11,559
just keep working with the regular to say, people that

722
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:13,159
I keep working with or the fans.

723
00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: Sure, is there any other types of scenes that in

724
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,960
the future, year, two years from whatever down the line

725
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,119
where you go, I've got my eye on that I'd

726
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:26,360
like to shoot this type of scene for your own

727
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,320
content or whatever it is. Is there any kind of

728
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,239
kink er fetish or anything at all where you're like

729
00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:35,760
that might be somewhere down the line, I stretch out.

730
00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:39,599
Speaker 2: To I'm not sure. I've just right now. I just

731
00:40:39,639 --> 00:40:42,599
got done. I just got back from an ayahuasca retreat.

732
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:48,440
So I feel like I'm kind of like, oh, I'm

733
00:40:48,559 --> 00:40:51,280
kind of okay where I'm at right now, and I

734
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,400
don't really know where I'm gonna go next, but I'm

735
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,960
just enjoying where I'm at right now.

736
00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:01,559
Speaker 1: I should have asked if I could have interviewed you

737
00:41:01,679 --> 00:41:05,480
prior to the ayahuasca retreat and then after that would

738
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,960
have been so interesting. Do you feel changed after that?

739
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

740
00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:14,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, And what do you feel changed about? Did you

741
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:17,760
confront any demons like they talk about did you confront ego?

742
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,000
I've never done it, but I've obviously heard you know

743
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:21,760
what it's like.

744
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: I did ayahuasca, Hope and combo, which combo. I have

745
00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:32,199
my my burn marks Rctor, and I'm doing it again

746
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:38,119
in a few weeks, combo again. And I went in

747
00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:42,920
with the intentions of healing my childhood trauma. And because

748
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,960
I healed some of that trauma, I have must have

749
00:41:46,039 --> 00:41:48,719
had it stored in certain parts of my back because

750
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,239
I no longer have that pain in my back. Wow,

751
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:55,800
it was a very life changing experience. I do know

752
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:01,719
that I am. I've been feeling not wanting to film

753
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,280
with certain people anymore because I don't want to absorb

754
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:11,119
their energy and I kind of just want to film

755
00:42:11,159 --> 00:42:17,559
with somebody that understands, like why I'm I'm wanting to film,

756
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:20,920
not just to film kind I don't and it's kind

757
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,440
of hard to explain. I don't want to film with

758
00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:26,159
just anybody anymore. I kind of want to keep my

759
00:42:26,199 --> 00:42:29,239
circle small and maybe down the road I will. But

760
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,960
I'm going through a little thing after this whole retreat,

761
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:37,400
because it's opened my eyes a lot about people and

762
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,760
not just letting anybody into my life.

763
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: That's yeah, Okay, I don't know where to take that.

764
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:48,000
I want to it's a way I want to ask them,

765
00:42:48,039 --> 00:42:50,440
but no, But I'm so curious, But I don't know

766
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,280
how to word any What is a trait that you

767
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,320
didn't realize? What is a toxic trait that someone you

768
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,320
performed with before had that you did not realize until

769
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:05,119
your eyes were opened from this ritual or spiritual ritual?

770
00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:06,840
What would you call it?

771
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: It was a.

772
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,599
Speaker 1: Ceremony ceremony fair enough, okay?

773
00:43:10,679 --> 00:43:13,639
Speaker 2: I mean I I before the ceremony, I kind of

774
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,440
was starting to feel those feelings. It's just that with

775
00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:20,360
the ceremony, it opened my heart a little more and

776
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:25,159
it made me be a little less forgiving. I just

777
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:30,039
know that not everybody has good intentions when it comes

778
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:34,400
to this work, and some people might use you. And

779
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,920
I don't want to just film with somebody and feel

780
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,320
like they're using me. I want to do this job.

781
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:45,119
I don't want to feel like I have to teach

782
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:48,239
them everything about this because that's going to drain my energy.

783
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,239
I'm really at a point where I don't have time

784
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,920
to teach people how to do content. Just watch a

785
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:59,760
lot of YouTube videos. You'll figure it out. I noticed

786
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,039
that there. I haven't really had any bad experiences. I

787
00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:06,840
just I'm just not.

788
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: I just feel comfortable with the people. Maybe anymore with those, Okay,

789
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:16,719
I just feel.

790
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,199
Speaker 2: Like some of the people might drain my energy a

791
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,239
little bit. There's nothing wrong with them. It's just their

792
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,119
own things in their life that they're going through, and

793
00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:26,199
they have their own things they need to work on,

794
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:31,039
and it's not anything against them. I just like, for example,

795
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:34,400
I probably won't film with a certain somebody because they

796
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,559
are going to be filming with somebody else, and I

797
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:40,719
don't want to have intimacy with them because if they're

798
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,320
filming with that person that does not like me at all,

799
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:48,480
that's an energy exchange. I don't want that right, And

800
00:44:48,519 --> 00:44:50,400
it's nothing against them. I'm not going to tell people

801
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:52,800
don't film with them, because I'm not going to film

802
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,119
with whoever you want. I don't want. I'm at a

803
00:44:56,159 --> 00:45:00,320
point where I'm almost ready to date, and yeah, so

804
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:04,360
I and maybe that person and I will film content.

805
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,079
I mean, I guess I can't. I don't know the future.

806
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,840
Maybe I I mean, I the person that I'm with

807
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,400
have to have an open mind. So it's not like

808
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,440
I'm going to drop everything and not ever film with

809
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,719
anybody else. But maybe I will end up dating somebody

810
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,840
and maybe I just want to make content with them,

811
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,440
and then maybe once in a while make content with

812
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:23,880
somebody else as well.

813
00:45:24,679 --> 00:45:30,039
Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's interesting question. I haven't asked this in

814
00:45:30,039 --> 00:45:33,239
a long time. What would get okay, you talked about

815
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,599
possibly starting dating this and that, what would get you

816
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:42,000
out of the industry? Meaning gentlemen like you said, has

817
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:45,159
to be open to this, right, But what if he

818
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,840
brings all of the things that you get out of this,

819
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,159
that you emotionally get out of this. Uh.

820
00:45:52,199 --> 00:45:55,519
Speaker 2: The only I mean if I was planning to leave

821
00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:58,159
in the future, regardless if I'm with somebody or not,

822
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:04,960
I if I leave, it's more so I have figured

823
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,440
out a way to be financially stable without having to

824
00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:12,079
rely on the industry, and I don't want to just

825
00:46:12,159 --> 00:46:16,840
end up with a man and escape the or I

826
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:21,280
can say escape leave the industry because he might be

827
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,519
have I'm not trying to explain how it is so

828
00:46:26,639 --> 00:46:29,000
with my I make pretty good money. It's just that

829
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,159
once you stop, I mean, you better have your other

830
00:46:32,199 --> 00:46:35,800
sources of income. Versus like a man who has a

831
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,400
nine to five or something, he's getting consistent income. I mean,

832
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,519
I do have a retirement plan set up, and I

833
00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:47,480
do have my ducks in a row. But I feel

834
00:46:47,519 --> 00:46:51,559
that if I were to leave, it's going to be

835
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:55,320
really hard for me because I do like I do

836
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,119
like the social media part. That's the part that's going

837
00:46:58,199 --> 00:46:59,000
to be the hardest.

838
00:46:59,559 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, so you said money nine to five. I

839
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,679
think my implication what I meant, was like if a

840
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,000
guy came with more, money's not a concern anymore, where

841
00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:11,199
it's like, oh, you're good. But that also raises the point, Yeah,

842
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,480
you wouldn't be escaping the industry. You escaped a bad marriage.

843
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,239
That's what I meant, right, you would be leaving a

844
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,840
bad No, you totally said it the right way, but

845
00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:22,239
I just there is that difference there. And then you'd

846
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,159
be going into a situation again where you'd almost if

847
00:47:25,159 --> 00:47:29,159
you gave this career up, you'd almost lose a little

848
00:47:29,159 --> 00:47:32,440
bit of your independence power, right, a lot of it,

849
00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:36,480
Because yes, this industry is very accepting. You can come

850
00:47:36,519 --> 00:47:38,440
back five years from now and there will be guys

851
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,719
who love seeing you. There are women who have been

852
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,840
retired for ten years that I remember from when I

853
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,400
was sixteen, Okay, and I can't get a hold of

854
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:50,960
them to interview them. But yeah, it's that's a scary prospect,

855
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:54,519
you know. So it's not just a guy or money

856
00:47:54,519 --> 00:47:57,559
in the moment. It would be like real security. You

857
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:01,280
would need to be able to leave earlier than your

858
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,800
own personal you know, desire to leave. Well, see that

859
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,599
ruins my last question. My last question was what's your endgame?

860
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 2: Well, I forgot to mention that I do plan on

861
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:19,440
doing something else that's you know, being an entrepreneur. I

862
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,800
don't just have to do porn sure to be an entrepreneur.

863
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,599
I mean, because so many people think, like if you're

864
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,519
if the guys some guys haters, I guess they think

865
00:48:29,559 --> 00:48:32,960
that OnlyFans and porn is the only way a woman

866
00:48:33,039 --> 00:48:36,079
can make money. There's so many other options. But now

867
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:38,559
I realize, like, I can make money however I want.

868
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:44,519
It's just I have to be dedicated to making that transition,

869
00:48:45,079 --> 00:48:47,559
just like I was dedicated when I started. And I

870
00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:50,079
have to remind myself that it doesn't just happen overnight.

871
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,280
It could take me like five years. I'm not planning

872
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,280
to leave anytime soon, because I like I like being online,

873
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,840
I like making my reels, I like doing that. But

874
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,320
if I did leave, I would have to do something

875
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,360
that I don't want to work for a boss. But

876
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,320
there are guys that tell me they want to take

877
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,159
care of me, but I don't know what their motive is. Sure,

878
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:14,920
I don't know if they're going to be if all

879
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:20,920
of a sudden they start being controlling and mean to me,

880
00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:26,400
and and me not feeling like I have freedom to

881
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,559
be able to leave my house without being luxured about something.

882
00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:31,400
If that makes sense.

883
00:49:31,639 --> 00:49:35,159
Speaker 1: Sure. Uh, last two questions to wrap up, because he's

884
00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:37,400
popped in my head, the one uh. And then I

885
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,400
just have one quick social media thing for you, but

886
00:49:40,679 --> 00:49:44,199
the one you grew up, you know, small town, small area.

887
00:49:44,679 --> 00:49:49,760
How many people from your childhood do you see their

888
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,599
email addresses in your only fans? Because I always think

889
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:55,400
that's the most entertaining thing. When a girl's like all

890
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,400
these guys from high school were hitting me up blah

891
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,280
blah blah. To me, that's like so empowering. But from

892
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,880
the guys perspective too, even girls in high school who

893
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,559
weren't like totally you know, the hottest woman in the world.

894
00:50:07,679 --> 00:50:10,079
I would pay anything to see some of them naked.

895
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,599
So do you have people from like your childhood reaching

896
00:50:12,639 --> 00:50:14,320
out to you now, like, oh my god, I love

897
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,760
your content blah blah blah.

898
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: I have no idea because I kind of I stopped

899
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,559
talking to everybody right when I started OnlyFans. I just

900
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:31,519
became a hermit. I I just like I shouldn't say

901
00:50:31,519 --> 00:50:36,639
I threw them away, but I had to make changes

902
00:50:36,679 --> 00:50:41,480
in my life, and I deleted all my personal socials.

903
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,440
And I'm pretty sure there are guys from my high

904
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,719
school who have subscribed to me. I'm sure I've caused divorces.

905
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:56,599
I'm sure I've caused many issues, but I don't I honestly,

906
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,039
I have no idea. Maybe they're too nervous to even

907
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:02,719
say anything.

908
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: It's yeah, yeah, that's possible too. Final question, you don't

909
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,199
have to give me any names. Have you had athletes

910
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,360
in your inbox? Professional athletes in your inbox? Yeah, you

911
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,239
heard that. Jordan Love has been in her I'm just kidding.

912
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,719
I'm kidding anything, ladies and gentlemen. My guest was tonight

913
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:26,079
was Wisconsin. Tiff was constant Tiff. I love the name.

914
00:51:26,599 --> 00:51:29,519
I couldn't spell it because I'm really dumb in white trash,

915
00:51:29,639 --> 00:51:32,880
but I eventually got it, just got to sound it out.

916
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,880
Make sure you head over to OnlyFans and sound it

917
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,519
out OnlyFans dot com slash Wisconsin Tiff. Make sure you

918
00:51:39,519 --> 00:51:43,960
follow her across all social media and even when down

919
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,519
the line when it's not fun anymore or she's just

920
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:50,360
not interested. When Tiff gives up porn, follow whatever else

921
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,599
she does after that, because I don't think, like when

922
00:51:53,639 --> 00:51:56,719
she wraps this up, I don't think that's the last

923
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,760
we hear of her. I think it's the last we

924
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,320
hear of the name Wisconsin tt Iiff. But you know

925
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,360
we'll hear the real name down the line. Tip. Thank

926
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:05,719
you so much for coming on with me tonight.

927
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: Thank you.

928
00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. We'll see this