Speaker 1: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for checking out going deeper.
I'm your host, Matt, and I've got a great show
planned for you tonight. I just ripped my headphones out
as I started doing that, so it's going to be
a real professional one here tonight. Folks. You'll know my
next guest from her appearances on websites such as pervcity
dot com and Private Society dot com. You can find
links to all of our social media in the episode
scription below, but I really want to recommend you go
and check out her OnlyFans at Wisconsin Underscore Tiff. Ladies
and gentlemen, join me in welcoming the wonderful Wisconsin Tiff Tiff.
How are you tonight?
Speaker 2: Hi?
Speaker 1: I'm good Big Bears fans and Chicago Bears fan No, okay,
just checking? Is the name? Act? Are you from? Wisconsin?
Speaker 2: Is that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay? Okay? Cool?
Speaker 2: Cool?
Speaker 1: Cool? A big city, small city. You don't have any details.
I'm not going to ask your zip code.
Speaker 2: I'm a country girl, country girl, but I do I
like the city. I like both city and country.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's what But did you I'll relate
it and you'll see I promise you did you grow
up in a small town or a big town.
Speaker 2: I grew up in the woods.
Speaker 1: In the woods, in the woods woods. Okay, good, Uh
that's interesting. So let me ask how did you initially
decide to get into this industry and when were you
like this is the jump I'm gonna make.
Speaker 2: It was in January of twenty twenty one. I didn't
even know what OnlyFans was. I just somebody mentioned it
to me. I made a TikTok and it wasn't I
was nobody on TikTok. I think I had maybe a
hundred followers. And somebody that I know had said, oh,
before you know it, yoba y'a only fans, and he
was kind of just making it sound like I'm going
to be this big thing, and I was like, oh yeah.
And I didn't even know what it was. So I
asked myself. I started doing a little bit of research
after a while, like what is OnlyFans? So I did
some research on it and I found out what it was.
And I reached out to my sister and I told her,
I think, have you ever heard of this? And she said, yeah,
it's for celebrities, and I told her, I don't know
if it is, and she's then she went and researched
it and she found out what it was, so then
she told me about it. Well, the only reason I
started looking up stuff was because I was trying to
leave my ex husband and I told I told my sister.
I was like, this is my chance to leave him
if this can make money. So I only me. I
had no idea that the amount of money you could make.
All I knew was I could make enough to leave
and live on my own.
Speaker 1: That's at the same At the same time, that's to me.
I feel bad for you in that situation. You have
to get away from somebody. I understand that, But it's
also the other half of it is that's so empowering
that it worked for you. For a lot of women
it probably doesn't work for them. But I also read
some stuff about you that you didn't treat this as
like I'm sexy, I'm good looking. I could probably make
money off of this. I read you like really delved
into almost I don't want to use the word science,
but maybe the science of how social media works, how
reach works. Is that true?
Speaker 2: Yes, all I went into it. When I first started,
I didn't even advertise I was an only fans. I
would just make videos on TikTok that I liked making,
like get mo skit, and I wanted people to be
my friend, so I thought, well, if they're my friend
on here, they'll want to subscribe to me smart or
if they think I'm funny, they'll want to subscribe to
me because I did out of Sandler.
Speaker 1: TikTok said, you know, it doesn't it doesn't hurt that
you're gorgeous as well, So that's a good transition. I
guess from that to that it was smart move in
that way. Did you just like it or was it
strictly out of necessity because you needed to get out
of yourself, or did you learn to like it as
soon as you delved into it. Was it complicated at
all when you got into like the social media stuff
and how you would do this and how you would
do that, or was it something that you kind of
started to really get into once you saw it.
Speaker 2: I did live streaming and I figured out everything on
my own. I did a little bit of brand deals
before I did this, and I was taught how to
do brand deals, so I used some of that into
my marketing and the marketing part was very easy to
me because I didn't look at it as if I'm
good looking, I'll get subscribers. I looked at it as
I needed to build a connection so that I can
get subscribers, because anybody can look pretty, but you got
to make sure that you're doing it right. So I
just it kind of just clicked with me, and I
interacted with my fans, especially on live streaming. Live streaming
was the biggest thing, and I realized once I posted
a video, I would go live, and then that video
would get pushed out. I would live stream like all
night long.
Speaker 1: I ask women. I've asked women this in the past,
but I'm wondering again, as somebody with you know, knowledge
of how this stuff works, do you who do you
think would be more successful in the industry. And it
kind of goes back to what you said. There a
girl who's just a ten out of ten gorgeous, knockout
superstar girl but doesn't really know social media that well.
Or a girl who and I hate to rank women,
but please understand what I'm trying to do here, a
girl who's maybe a six out of ten but really
engages and works the social media and knows the algorithms.
I would personally say the second girl would be the
more successful of the two, because you're right, it's not
so much about just who's gorgeous. There's a million gorgeous
women in the world. It's like, who do I have
a connection with? Who do I like seeing her Adam
Sandler videos and they actually make me laugh, not like
most of the shit I'm flipping through online. So that's
so smart to build that personal thing. Now you've grown
exponentially since then, I would assume, obviously you have to.
How are you staying personable? Do you ever reach out?
Do you talk to your fans at all? Or now?
Speaker 2: Yes? I still answer all my adms on my own.
Speaker 1: How do you have the time? How many hours are
in your day?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Well, sorry, what was that?
Speaker 2: I too many hours? I make time for it.
Speaker 1: You have to, it's your job, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, I could hire somebody and I could go
live my life by going and doing stuff, you know,
like going for a hike. Well, I'll have somebody answer
my DMS and I don't have to worry about it.
Or I guess I could just sit down and answer
my DMS and then go for a walk. I'm just.
I know so many people tell me that I need
management because it makes life so much easier, but I
just can't have somebody controlling my account for me. I just,
I'm just it's sort of like a control thing for
me because I've never had the freedom. So I'm just
worried that if somebody were to be Let's say, I
need somebody just to help me to send videos for
people fans that ask for certain videos, and maybe that
could be an option, but what if they messed it
up or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Sure, no, that makes total sense. You've and you know
what you said, you lived in the woods. I assume
it wasn't a big giant mansion in the woods. You
weren't like a huge rich family. Okay, neither neither was
I right? And sometimes I'll be up till four or
five in the morning editing my comedy show or one
of these episodes, and it'll get a good amount of views.
But I put them out for free. I don't really
make any money off of them. Why do I do this?
It's because I remember not having things as a kid,
not having recognition, not having whatever, And I've worked my
way up to this point to be able to do this.
I see it as kind of the same thing with you.
Maybe maybe you started out in a place where you
were in a bad spot. You turned it around all
on your own and built this thing. This empire is
a big word. That's more like millions and millions and millions,
like a little empire, no offense, you know. But we're
talking a lot a lot here. I understand not wanting
to give control up of that, Like what if what
if someone messes it up? What if someone gets mad
at you, the person you're paying, and they tweet something
shitty or something nasty or something like that, then what
are you doing? Are you apologizing the rest of the day.
Oh my god, I'm so sorry. That wasn't me. Da
da da da da. Some people won't believe you. You'll
lose some fans. I don't know. I think it's smart.
I think it's smart. I just think it's probably becomes
overwhelming after a certain amount of time, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just know that I have I know a
lot of people that I'm friends with, and they have
people that run certain social media accounts for them, which,
in reality, any kind of business that is taking off
and they want to do more in their business. They
have to have some sort of assistance because if you're
so obviously I don't have assistance. But if I did
have somebody who was helping me run my social media accounts,
I could make more content. Sure, that's the only other thing.
I could make more content, and I could make more
of the things that I want to do. So that
is that is one thing that I don't think people
look at, especially fans, say, but I personally, I have
time to answer my dms. I mean, I make time
for it. It doesn't it's not really a big deal
to me because I mean it's just in my routine.
The only thing that I probably could I did have
a video editor for just a short period of time
and then I figured, oh, I can do it on
my own. But I think in the near future I
might hire somebody to do my video editing for me,
and maybe a couple other things. But I don't mind
answering my dms. I'm not at the point where I
have thousands of dms on OnlyFans, just enough to where
I'm good. But I've learned ways to where I'm not
going to get influx of messages because in the in
the middle of when I started growing really big, I
started doing something a certain way where I was just
getting way too many dms and I could not keep
up with it. And then I had I talked to
some people and they told me that I need to
do it this way otherwise you're gonna you're going to
burn yourself out because all you're doing is creating all
these messages that they like. Usually if and it's just
simply like somebody saying something simple that didn't really actually
need a reply, If that makes sense, like it wasn't
really necessary for them to send a DM. It's kind
of hard to explain.
Speaker 1: No, I kind of get No, I get that that
makes sense to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So for me to cut time, I needed to
do less of certain things so that I don't create
more work than I need to.
Speaker 1: Sure. Sure. So then what you're saying is there may
be time in the future when you bring people onto
your quote unquote staff, but they will not likely be
customer fan audience facing at all. That's you. That bridge
between you and the audience is that maybe editing, maybe
this over here or something else, but not between you
and your fans. When people go to Wisconsin Underscore tif
on Only Fans they're getting you.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh and it's actually Wisconsin Underscore Tiff is on
my Twitter. My Only Fans is Wisconsin Tip. It's just
one word.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry about that.
Speaker 2: I'm ready sure it's one word.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: If it's a web address, yeah, I think it would
be one word right where they can.
Speaker 2: Find me on Wisconsin tif dot com.
Speaker 1: That's even easy. No, I understand, I'm in fact, I'll
go back and edit the audio later. So okay, they're
just going to think you're crazy like you shouted out
the same thing I said, because moms say it earlier.
All right, well we're going to take a break in
one second. Well, let me make sure I do this correctly,
because that is important. That sounded snarky. I swear to
god it wasn't. Plugs are like the most important thing
to me. If you give me your time, I want
to make sure people go to your stuff. So please, folks,
head over on OnlyFans and check out Wisconsin Tiff OnlyFans
dot com slash Wisconsin Tiff. No Underscore Underscore is Twitter.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Good links to all of that is in the episode
description though, so if you're listening to this right now,
head down there, click follow. Even if you're not going
to sign up for her Only Fans. If you don't
have it right now, whatever, find a way to make it.
But if you don't, make sure you follow her at
least throw likes up there. Get her in the algorithm
because it helps. Everything helps, everything helps. My guest tonight
was Constant Tiff. We will be right back after this,
and we're back. My guest tonight, Wisconsin Tiff. You can
find her on Only Fans at Wisconsin Tiff and make
sure you go to the episode description below and like
and follow and do everything you can because she is
a phenomenal performer. I used the excuse to my wife
last night. I'm just doing research. I swear to God,
I'm just checking her stuff out because i'm researching it.
I am a big fan of your content. You produce
some really phenomenal stuff. I do want to play a
game with you today. How are you with words? Yeah?
Me too, me too. So what I have for you
today is a game called Lude Letters. Let me give
you the rules for Lude Letters. I'm gonna give you
some short questions and you give me the answer. Here's
the easy part there's no correct answer. As long as
you say something, you get a point. But here's the
shitty part. Your answer has to begin with a randomly
selected letter. So prior to the show, I picked a letter.
Your letter is gonna be F. So when I say
this right, name a car brand.
Speaker 2: Ferrari.
Speaker 1: There you go. Okay, See, you got the game perfect,
nailed it. You are going to have because I'm not
a hack, sixty nine seconds on the clock to try
and answer ten of these questions. Some girls whiz through
these and I had my wife try it on me
and I got about three of them, so I don't know.
Then we had on a girl who claimed she was
dyslexic and got ten of them, so who knows. But Tiff,
are you ready to play this game? We understand it right.
My letter is f F as in frank as in
something else. Okay, cool, I'm going to start the clock and.
Speaker 2: Go.
Speaker 1: Name a sex position or act, frontal name, something to drink,
fonta name, a body part to come on, faith, a
female name, Fiona, porn website. Oh, you can pass as well,
and we'll come back to it if you like.
Speaker 2: Pass.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, name a fashion brand something you like
about a male performer.
Speaker 2: Funny.
Speaker 1: Name a food brand, right, I don't know, coming up
on time? There you go, there you go. Sure, name
a celebrity you'd.
Speaker 3: Fuck, breakstra, make up a porn title, foot Daddy time, wonderful, wonderful.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I'm gonna have to go
back in and editing and fix that, folks, because I
set that for rather than sixty nine seconds one hour
and nine minutes. But you did phenomenal on that TIF.
I cannot, for the life of me when I fill
these out, I have to like google like drinks that
begin with F because I blank entirely. But you have
that performer, gene. That's just what it is. What kind
of did you have any kind of anxiety jumping into
this or was it was it like freeing for you
to be able to like start expressing your sexuality or
were you comfortable expressing your sexuality beforehand.
Speaker 2: I had never done anything like this before, so when
I first started, I didn't post any nudes anyways, So
me posting ludes and like, I wasn't worried about it.
My ex husband knew what I was doing because I
told them, so I didn't want to post nudes anyways,
because I didn't want him getting mad at me because
I told him that I'm only doing bikini photos and
I'm only showing my boobs out my life streams. And
he knew I was leaving him, but he didn't want
me to. He didn't think I was going to leave him.
But to make it sound like I'm not doing anything bad,
I'm just showing, you know, bikini photos. He didn't think
i'd be making a lot. But my first month not
even posting like any nudes, I made like six thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: That's that's crazy. Like I said, you obviously you are gorgeous.
I mean you're a gorgeous girl, and like you said,
you're very personal. I've interviewed. I also do a sideshow
where I interview new performers. I try and get them
some exposure to the industry. Also tell them stuff I've learned,
whatever else. I've met some absolutely gorgeous girls that update
every day and have about three hundred followers, and like
nobody on only fans, they make like one hundred bucks.
So what is I don't want you to give away
the special sauce, but like, what is a tip or something?
You could give to somebody who's starting out on OnlyFans
that you really think, like, focus in on this and
you will be successful.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I don't mind sharing. I mean there's
a few reasons why I'm at where I'm at. So
the one thing is getting yourself out there, not just
relying on Twitter, because Twitter is not my main source
of getting subscribers. That's just like a portfolio. So when
fans on other places come to there and they say
they see what I have, and they even looking at
your Twitter is going to kind of determine how the
quality of your content is. So if you don't have
if your lighting is bad, if the sound is bad,
if it's just a mess in the background, and it
might kind of turn fans off because it looks like
you're not putting any effort in. I mean, you don't
have to be perfect, but at least make it look
somewhat presentable, and as you grow, you get better and better.
The other thing is the one thing that sets me
aside from I started at a really bad time in
my life and I had guys I felt like they
needed to save me. And that wasn't even me doing
it on purpose. I was really in a desperate situation
where I needed to leave, and I was not really
good in the headspace because I was I was abused
and manipulated my entire life. So how I thought I
was being I thought was normal. So when I look back,
I look like, oh my gosh, she's so desperate to leave,
she's gonna like she would get sad and she would
tell her subscribers that she's sad or she I would
start crying because my ex husband said something to me
and I and they felt like they were responsible for
saving me. Now today I'm in a much better position
where I don't need to cry on my stories to
make them feel like I didn't do it to make
them feel bad for me. I really was in a
really bad place.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, and thank god you're out of that now,
you know. I mean, you know, hey, congratulations, you made it.
There's so many other women that haven't yet, though, So
I think it's great that you're willing to share information
and stuff like that. I think it's it's kind of you, actually,
but that was your situation, other girls' situation, So I
guess the advice would probably be, like, just try and
show people your real self. Maybe unless you're real despicable,
then don't do that, Like if you're a dirt bag, don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, when you're online, you know, your persona is
a little different than when you're I mean, you don't
want to be you don't want to come off as
too relatable because I mean, that's just the part with
anything on social media. With your fans is going to
be the biggest thing. But there are people in the
industry that are huge and they don't really do a
lot on OnlyFans, but they still get so many subscribers
because they started off as streamers. Like I'm trying to
think of one for an example, there's so many. It's like,
how the hell did they get so much? How did
they get so many fans and they do so little
on their only fans, And there's so many who do
a lot and that I mean, and there are people
who make way more than me, and I could be
doing a lot more, I mean, but I only have
the capacity to do so much. It's just I mean,
I guess you just can't compare yourself to somebody else
who's doing better. But I'm trying to think of the
one she has red hair, Amara, Oh, she's never done porn.
She's just she's like more of like a streamer, and
then she got really big on OnlyFans and then she
does a bunch of other stuff too, like she runs
a marketing sure, and it's like, how did she I mean,
because she was big on twitch, but I mean, how
did she get so big on OnlyFans?
Speaker 1: Well? I mean that's kind of like when these celebrities
get podcast deals for forty million dollars and they've never
podcasted before. Certain people, like certain guys in the industry,
and I go, like, I've done five hundred episodes, I've
interviewed world known celebrities, blah blah blah. Where is mine?
But if you bring it in with an audience, But
that doesn't mean the quality is going to be there.
And my personal thing is I think quality wins out
in the end. It always does. Yeah, I don't know,
so let me Okay, that's an interesting question. So no,
I'm not trying to put these words in your mouth,
but I'm going to ask because there's almost like levels,
even as nice of the porn community as it is, Like,
I really it's odd how in it everyone is in
together like everyone is there's a lot of people who
are always trying to help out other people. I see
behind the scenes and this and that, and it really
surprised me. I would think it would be more of
like a stripper type atmosphere, a little bit caddy, a
little bit fighting over this or that, and it doesn't
seem that way. Let me ask, are there types of
performers or whatever that you look at and might be like,
come on, they don't do what I do? Because for
a while, big mainstream porn star girls were looking at
OnlyFans girls going like, they don't do what I do.
Come on now, is there anybody like in the chain
of media where you're kind of like, oh, come on now,
step it off, get your shit together.
Speaker 2: I don't really look at people like that because I'm
so busy with my own, but I do know that
there are people in the industry that do compare a lot,
and or some people might be much bigger than I am.
It might look down on somebody who is not as big,
or some people only want to talk to people if
they have a following, and or or there's people who
are don't have a large following and they like to
do a lot of coaching. I feel that when it
comes to the industry people, I mean, they're willing to
help each other out, but at the end of the day,
everybody's for themselves.
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, yeah, and but you know what, you are
all independent contractors, So yeah, the truth of the matter is,
but I assume that doesn't stop you from doing collaborations
or anything like that or no, do not do any
of that type of stuff.
Speaker 2: I do collapse. I'm very I wouldn't say I'm picky,
but I want to work with people who I feel
connected to. I don't want to just work with somebody
just because I want to work with them, or I
don't care what they're fining. Following is I don't care
if they have a huge following, because followings don't mean
anything because people have had allegations against them with large followings,
and they think because they have a large following that
they're they're excluded from being canceled or they can do
things and get away with it. But I don't look
at I don't care if somebody has a large following.
I care more about if they can follow directions and
they kind of get the marketing stuff, because the marketing
is the biggest thing that's going to get you subscribers.
It doesn't matter how many sex tapes you make. It
doesn't matter if you make a sex tape once a week.
That's not going to make you the money. The money
is in the marketing because you got to bring an
audience in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it seems like it's probably fifty to fifty
because if you had phenomenal marketing with shit content, they
wouldn't come back for episode two. But if you had
the most beautiful scene in the world, this could win
you know, an Oscar if there wasn't a double anal
in it. It doesn't matter if you're not marketing it anywhere, Like, yeah,
you'll get the passerby on many VIDs or whatever it is.
But aside from that, who fucking cares? You know, I
don't see it, so I don't know it. You've done
a couple mainstream shoots, one mainstream shoot. How many have
you done so far?
Speaker 2: I've done I think I've done like six for Private Society,
and then I've done a bunch for Tap Whole Studio,
and then I've done PERV. Yes, I was going to
do a shoot with him a few weeks ago, but
I wasn't ready to do anal. Actually I don't remember
what the thing was, but I ended up doing a
content trade with Claudio. He's the owner of it, so
we ended up just doing a content trade. I can't
remember why I wasn't able to do a shoot. It
was like the time, the time he needed me, I
wasn't able to be available for that.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, yeah, very cool. Okay, do you like
shooting mainstream stuff?
Speaker 2: Yes? I like shooting with Private Society, and I don't
know when I'm shooting with them again, but I do like,
I do like doing shoots with.
Speaker 1: Them the rest. So so are we ever going to
see you on Brassiers dot com someday?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think.
Speaker 1: Just as an example, okay, I personally.
Speaker 2: Prefer Private Society because of its raw.
Speaker 1: He's going to use the word raw. Yeah, Private society
is always like in in the best way possible, the
most drowned out lighting sometimes and then they'll pull it
back a little bit and it's like perfect. It's it's
the type of scenes at private Society where I could
be like, oh, if they had unlicensed music in the background,
I would understand why they had that, Like that's why
metallic is playing in the background, but they're very professional
and everything like that. They've been around forever, so that's
part of the thing. When I talk to a lot
of the big name performers, a lot of them tell
me they make most of their money from OnlyFans, and
the mainstream sites are more of a great advertisement, right,
Like Wisconsin tif is a You know, you were doing
phenomenal on your own, but I wonder how many other
subscribers would come in if you had it slapped across
the top of like New Scene, Wisconsin, tiff at teamskeet
dot com, blah blah blah. It's definitely possible that it
would boost you, but again, you would be giving up
some of your control or your control of the content.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Is that why you're kind of iffy on taking those
mainstream shoots? Are they just not your thing?
Speaker 2: It's because of that, because I can make a lot
more on my own not having a middleman. I feel
that private society has brought me in so many subscribers,
so I really like them, so I think filming with
them is worth it because I do get traction from them.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, cool, very cool. Yeah, Yeah, I just I
was wondering from the marketing aspect, but again you're killing it.
So what Let me ask you this, what is a
kinker of fetish that you developed when you got into
the adult entertainment industry that you maybe didn't realize you
had before this?
Speaker 2: Pretty much the only kings that I do are the
older man age gap stuff. I don't really have any other.
I mean, I do feet stuff here and there, and
but stuff, but I and pe stuff. I guess the
piece stuff is what When I started, I had that
not on my radar at all because I was only
on only fans. But on fansly I do I post
like I post Pea videos and stuff that you can't
post on only fans. Sure, I guess Pea videos are
the one thing that I thought I would never be
posting on a site and guys would like it.
Speaker 1: What they do? Yeah, I mean I guess I get
Maybe have you learned this because I've learned this really
And I know this sounds like a simple statement, but
it seems like there's a guy for every fetish, and
for a lot of shit that you didn't realize was
a fetish, there's a guy for that too. Have you
had request have you ever had any requests where obviously
when I ask for names and no one would know
these names anyway, but have you had requests from people
that you had to almost like, if you ask that again,
I got to block you. Man, Like, that's a weird one,
and that's a rough one. I am all about not
kink shaming and not fetish shaming and whatever, but you know,
sometime you know there's limits, there's limits to what people
are even interested in seeing in their inbox.
Speaker 2: I haven't had to. Usually men are very respectful to
me when I tell them I can't do it. Yeah,
so they I tell them, I I just tell them,
I'm like, hey, I'm really not comfortable doing that. I mean,
but I can. I can always try something else. But
I mean, and they're usually pretty respectful. But the weirdest
one I almost did. But I was like, no, because
what if I stop all of this and I have
that video out. That's the only one I don't want
people saying. He wanted me to put an adult diaper
on and pe in it. And I was going to
because I was like, well, that's like really easy money,
I mean, just pe in it. But then I started thinking,
I'm like no, because if I stop this one day,
I don't care if if the other stuff is out there,
because it's just you know, I don't care if somebody
seeds me pee I mean, because everybody peeves, but I
don't want me. I don't know if that would get
out anywhere people watching me p in a diaper, that
would just be that would just that would just be like,
don't don't ask me about that.
Speaker 1: You would either lose a bunch of subscribers if you
did put that out publicly, or you would gain a
whole bunch, but you'd have all new requests that would
be coming in every day.
Speaker 2: And no, I don't want to be and I a divert.
I don't know.
Speaker 1: You'd be going to Costco buying the industrial size one
and they'd be like, oh, do you have a new
little one at home? Be like, no, these are adult size.
Actually this is for me. By the way, here's my
black card. Charge it to this. Yeah. So okay, all right,
I want to take one more break. We'll come right back.
I want to talk about what we're going to do
in the future, what you have planned, what you'd like
to plan, this and that. My guest tonight the Beautiful,
the Wonderful Wisconsin Tiff. You can find her on OnlyFans
at Wisconsin Tiff and follow her across all social media.
Those links are in the episode description. As always, we'll
be right back. All right, We're back with my guest,
Wisconsin Tiff. You can find are on OnlyFans at Wisconsin Tiff,
Nice and Easy, and Wisconsin tiff dot com is links
to everything you do, beautiful wonderful. Make sure you go there. Folks,
you touched on a few things. Let's jump back into
the diaper. I'm just kidding. I don't want to talk
about the diaper thing anymore, but you do have somewhat
of an interesting thing that you're known for. It seems
like that I've seen articles written about you. Could you
tell me the audience what that is?
Speaker 2: Age gap porn?
Speaker 1: Okay? Now, is that something that you realized was just
gonna make you like successful in this industry? Or have
you always been like attracted to older guys?
Speaker 2: I mean I do hang out with older men outside
of the of this this work. I started marketing older
men back when I first started OnlyFans. I made a
video I was trying to test things out to get subscribers.
So I made a video about older men, and it
got a lot of views and got me a lot
of a lot of subscribers. So I told my sister
about it. I said, oh, my gosh, I just got
a bunch of subscribers because they've posted about older men,
like they're so nice, They're so much nicer to me,
and they're so much easier because I wouldn't say easier,
but it's like, I don't know what it is about
me that they want. They like me so much, so
I'm just going to keep me nice to them. I
just thought, like they're the nicer ones to me. So
I just kept marketing it. And then and then one
day somebody asked if I was ever going to make
a video with an older man, and I and last
year was the first time I made a sex tape
with an older man. I never made any sex tapes
until like a year ago, like a little over a
year ago. But I my first sex tape was with
somebody who was older than me, just not like an older,
older man. But last year was the year that I
started filming with with older man older man sex tapes.
So once I once I started doing that, I started
blowing up more. But I just always was making tiktoks
about older men and they would always just blow up,
and they were just the nicest guy to me, So
I just stuck with it.
Speaker 1: They're probably appreciative, right, I mean it's like this, you know,
any any can I ask? What was the age gap
in that big one you shot?
Speaker 2: Eighty eight? Wait?
Speaker 1: He was eighty? Uh huh you were how old?
Speaker 2: I'm thirty six, but I was thirty four. It was
right before I turned thirty five.
Speaker 1: Okay, so forty six year age gap right there. I
thought you when I thought you said an eighty year
age gap. So I was like, oh, he was one
hundred and what then that's terrifying. You shouldn't do that.
Was it scary at all? No?
Speaker 2: I was already having sex with older men.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. Was it scary like you might
kill him?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, fair enough, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't like whenever I do a sex tape with
a guy. I mean, I've had my fans see raw
footage of like the Virgin sex tape. I usually am
like I sometimes won't edit some of the stuff out
so they can kind of see, like Oh, she's I
love how you just talk to him and you kind
of guide him. I like, I just I tell them,
if you're uncomfortable, just let me know and we'll try
something else. And I don't go into it being like crazy.
I guess it depends on what the sex tape is.
But no, I wasn't worried.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I would be terrified if I was
that old to have a girl as beautiful as you,
I wouldn't be terrified. I would go, this is gonna
be my last time on earth. That's fine, but I'm
gonna die the happiest man in the world after this.
While attack, Yes, So what is coming up? What type
of content are you looking forward to produce? It almost
sounds like and this is not this is not a
shot because it's actually working really well for you. It
almost seems like you are so comfortable in your control,
which is such an amazing place to be in for
a content creator, someone who understands what their audience wants,
knows what they are capable of making, and wants to
make that. But it almost seems like like you're not
trying to expand out. I don't mean new subscribers. I
mean new things this and that. Am I wrong on that?
And if I am, please correct me.
Speaker 2: I haven't really been doing much different. I mean I
did some gang bangs here and there, I mean a lot.
I'm kind of just putting those to the side for
a while because I did. I keep having people ask
me for more of them, but it's it's very exhausting
doing those, even though I go down to Chicago to
do them. It's just it burns a lot of my
energy because it's just a lot. I haven't done a
gang bang in a while, and I'm okay with that
because when I am ready, it'll get them more excited
and want to look forward to it. I like to
go in little breaks where I don't want to do
something too much because then they'll get bored of it
and then they'll be like, oh, I haven't seen her
do that in a while, and then I say, oh,
I'm going to do it. But I just been doing
older men and guys kind of my age too a
little bit here and there, because I keep having guys
my age asking me to just do tapes with third
age range, and I just I offer that too, but
it's not really something I prefer. The older men stuff, because,
for one, it's a shock value for when I do
my marketing, and it's fun. I like making people mad
and I like making people feel surprised. So yeah, I
just keep working with the regular to say, people that
I keep working with or the fans.
Speaker 1: Sure, is there any other types of scenes that in
the future, year, two years from whatever down the line
where you go, I've got my eye on that I'd
like to shoot this type of scene for your own
content or whatever it is. Is there any kind of
kink er fetish or anything at all where you're like
that might be somewhere down the line, I stretch out.
Speaker 2: To I'm not sure. I've just right now. I just
got done. I just got back from an ayahuasca retreat.
So I feel like I'm kind of like, oh, I'm
kind of okay where I'm at right now, and I
don't really know where I'm gonna go next, but I'm
just enjoying where I'm at right now.
Speaker 1: I should have asked if I could have interviewed you
prior to the ayahuasca retreat and then after that would
have been so interesting. Do you feel changed after that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And what do you feel changed about? Did you
confront any demons like they talk about did you confront ego?
I've never done it, but I've obviously heard you know
what it's like.
Speaker 2: I did ayahuasca, Hope and combo, which combo. I have
my my burn marks Rctor, and I'm doing it again
in a few weeks, combo again. And I went in
with the intentions of healing my childhood trauma. And because
I healed some of that trauma, I have must have
had it stored in certain parts of my back because
I no longer have that pain in my back. Wow,
it was a very life changing experience. I do know
that I am. I've been feeling not wanting to film
with certain people anymore because I don't want to absorb
their energy and I kind of just want to film
with somebody that understands, like why I'm I'm wanting to film,
not just to film kind I don't and it's kind
of hard to explain. I don't want to film with
just anybody anymore. I kind of want to keep my
circle small and maybe down the road I will. But
I'm going through a little thing after this whole retreat,
because it's opened my eyes a lot about people and
not just letting anybody into my life.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, Okay, I don't know where to take that.
I want to it's a way I want to ask them,
but no, But I'm so curious, But I don't know
how to word any What is a trait that you
didn't realize? What is a toxic trait that someone you
performed with before had that you did not realize until
your eyes were opened from this ritual or spiritual ritual?
What would you call it?
Speaker 2: It was a.
Speaker 1: Ceremony ceremony fair enough, okay?
Speaker 2: I mean I I before the ceremony, I kind of
was starting to feel those feelings. It's just that with
the ceremony, it opened my heart a little more and
it made me be a little less forgiving. I just
know that not everybody has good intentions when it comes
to this work, and some people might use you. And
I don't want to just film with somebody and feel
like they're using me. I want to do this job.
I don't want to feel like I have to teach
them everything about this because that's going to drain my energy.
I'm really at a point where I don't have time
to teach people how to do content. Just watch a
lot of YouTube videos. You'll figure it out. I noticed
that there. I haven't really had any bad experiences. I
just I'm just not.
Speaker 1: I just feel comfortable with the people. Maybe anymore with those, Okay,
I just feel.
Speaker 2: Like some of the people might drain my energy a
little bit. There's nothing wrong with them. It's just their
own things in their life that they're going through, and
they have their own things they need to work on,
and it's not anything against them. I just like, for example,
I probably won't film with a certain somebody because they
are going to be filming with somebody else, and I
don't want to have intimacy with them because if they're
filming with that person that does not like me at all,
that's an energy exchange. I don't want that right, And
it's nothing against them. I'm not going to tell people
don't film with them, because I'm not going to film
with whoever you want. I don't want. I'm at a
point where I'm almost ready to date, and yeah, so
I and maybe that person and I will film content.
I mean, I guess I can't. I don't know the future.
Maybe I I mean, I the person that I'm with
have to have an open mind. So it's not like
I'm going to drop everything and not ever film with
anybody else. But maybe I will end up dating somebody
and maybe I just want to make content with them,
and then maybe once in a while make content with
somebody else as well.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's interesting question. I haven't asked this in
a long time. What would get okay, you talked about
possibly starting dating this and that, what would get you
out of the industry? Meaning gentlemen like you said, has
to be open to this, right, But what if he
brings all of the things that you get out of this,
that you emotionally get out of this. Uh.
Speaker 2: The only I mean if I was planning to leave
in the future, regardless if I'm with somebody or not,
I if I leave, it's more so I have figured
out a way to be financially stable without having to
rely on the industry, and I don't want to just
end up with a man and escape the or I
can say escape leave the industry because he might be
have I'm not trying to explain how it is so
with my I make pretty good money. It's just that
once you stop, I mean, you better have your other
sources of income. Versus like a man who has a
nine to five or something, he's getting consistent income. I mean,
I do have a retirement plan set up, and I
do have my ducks in a row. But I feel
that if I were to leave, it's going to be
really hard for me because I do like I do
like the social media part. That's the part that's going
to be the hardest.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, so you said money nine to five. I
think my implication what I meant, was like if a
guy came with more, money's not a concern anymore, where
it's like, oh, you're good. But that also raises the point, Yeah,
you wouldn't be escaping the industry. You escaped a bad marriage.
That's what I meant, right, you would be leaving a
bad No, you totally said it the right way, but
I just there is that difference there. And then you'd
be going into a situation again where you'd almost if
you gave this career up, you'd almost lose a little
bit of your independence power, right, a lot of it,
Because yes, this industry is very accepting. You can come
back five years from now and there will be guys
who love seeing you. There are women who have been
retired for ten years that I remember from when I
was sixteen, Okay, and I can't get a hold of
them to interview them. But yeah, it's that's a scary prospect,
you know. So it's not just a guy or money
in the moment. It would be like real security. You
would need to be able to leave earlier than your
own personal you know, desire to leave. Well, see that
ruins my last question. My last question was what's your endgame?
Speaker 2: Well, I forgot to mention that I do plan on
doing something else that's you know, being an entrepreneur. I
don't just have to do porn sure to be an entrepreneur.
I mean, because so many people think, like if you're
if the guys some guys haters, I guess they think
that OnlyFans and porn is the only way a woman
can make money. There's so many other options. But now
I realize, like, I can make money however I want.
It's just I have to be dedicated to making that transition,
just like I was dedicated when I started. And I
have to remind myself that it doesn't just happen overnight.
It could take me like five years. I'm not planning
to leave anytime soon, because I like I like being online,
I like making my reels, I like doing that. But
if I did leave, I would have to do something
that I don't want to work for a boss. But
there are guys that tell me they want to take
care of me, but I don't know what their motive is. Sure,
I don't know if they're going to be if all
of a sudden they start being controlling and mean to me,
and and me not feeling like I have freedom to
be able to leave my house without being luxured about something.
If that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Sure. Uh, last two questions to wrap up, because he's
popped in my head, the one uh. And then I
just have one quick social media thing for you, but
the one you grew up, you know, small town, small area.
How many people from your childhood do you see their
email addresses in your only fans? Because I always think
that's the most entertaining thing. When a girl's like all
these guys from high school were hitting me up blah
blah blah. To me, that's like so empowering. But from
the guys perspective too, even girls in high school who
weren't like totally you know, the hottest woman in the world.
I would pay anything to see some of them naked.
So do you have people from like your childhood reaching
out to you now, like, oh my god, I love
your content blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: I have no idea because I kind of I stopped
talking to everybody right when I started OnlyFans. I just
became a hermit. I I just like I shouldn't say
I threw them away, but I had to make changes
in my life, and I deleted all my personal socials.
And I'm pretty sure there are guys from my high
school who have subscribed to me. I'm sure I've caused divorces.
I'm sure I've caused many issues, but I don't I honestly,
I have no idea. Maybe they're too nervous to even
say anything.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, yeah, that's possible too. Final question, you don't
have to give me any names. Have you had athletes
in your inbox? Professional athletes in your inbox? Yeah, you
heard that. Jordan Love has been in her I'm just kidding.
I'm kidding anything, ladies and gentlemen. My guest was tonight
was Wisconsin. Tiff was constant Tiff. I love the name.
I couldn't spell it because I'm really dumb in white trash,
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she does after that, because I don't think, like when
she wraps this up, I don't think that's the last
we hear of her. I think it's the last we
hear of the name Wisconsin tt Iiff. But you know
we'll hear the real name down the line. Tip. Thank
you so much for coming on with me tonight.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. We'll see this