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Speaker 1: Hey guys, this is Brad Pete and I'm Giff from

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the Pop Culture Yearbook podcast. And you're listening to Surely

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you Can't Be Serious? Fucking hello everybody, and welcome back

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to the Surely you Can't Be Serious Podcasts, Part two

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of our special Christmas edition. And I'm thinking, Jason, maybe

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these guys should be spending some time with their family

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instead of listening to our podcasts. What do you think? No?

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Speaker 2: For three reasons. Ay, we'll be comparing two of the

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greatest Christmas movies of all time, Home Alone and Christmas

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Story two. This is our last podcast of twenty twenty one,

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and d we'll be giving our final judgment and all

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five of the Christmas movies we've covered so far in

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our podcast. It's going to be amazing.

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Speaker 1: Why the heck did you take your shoes off?

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Speaker 3: Why are you just like a chicken?

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Speaker 2: All right, we're diving in right here, Part two of

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a Christmas Story versus Home Alone. Let's talk about the

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lamp real quick. Okay, the electric sex in the in

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the window. I had somebody this week we posted on

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Facebook about a Christmas Story fragilely yes, must be French.

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Speaker 1: Not French it's Italian. Must be Italian, everybody does it.

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Everybody says, must be French, but it's not French. This

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must be Italian.

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Speaker 2: Really, yes, okay, well I blew that. And then yeah,

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the reason why he gets this lamp in the first

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place because his wife is great this trivia, Yeah, Pictor.

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody knows the lone Ranger's nephew's horse, great

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characters of literature, Victor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then when it gets the lamp, of course

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he sets it up. She keeps turning it off. She

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hates it clearly. And then that day comes where there's

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an I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 1: I was watering my plants and I broke your lamp.

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Speaker 2: Get the glue. We don't have any You used the

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ball the glue on purpose.

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Speaker 1: He was looking for his singer, but all he could

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get out was.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's great. The Chinese scene at the

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end of the movie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Shepherd. They had to go eat Chinese food.

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But the rest of the scene was all a creation

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of Bob Clark. There was no duck, there was no singing.

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That was all Bob Clark and the rah and he's

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he's smiling at me.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I love that scene. Melinda Dylon was purposely given

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the wrong script so she would be shocked in.

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Speaker 1: Surprise, and her reaction is so genuine. Her laughter is

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so good and her scream is so on point.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: He's smiling at me. And then the Chinese guys are

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singing fellah lah la lah right, and the guy the

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restaurant in her keeps correcting them. No, no, no, no, seemed

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like this the Hall of hollow right, and he corrects them.

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If you watch the movie, that dude is cracking up

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the whole time.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he can't stop laughing.

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Speaker 2: It's it's great, it's great.

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Speaker 1: Okay, one more quick thing. This is a point of contention.

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And I wonder about this because I think that I

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had my Red Writer be Begun before this movie came out,

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and my Red Writer be Begun I still own it.

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It has a compass in the stock. Yes, Red Writer

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b Begun maintains that they did not have a model

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that had a compass in the stock. That's some other

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brand of B Begun. And Geene Shepherd, when he was

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still alive, was like, I remember it. I remember the

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compass in the stock. And this thing that tells time.

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Speaker 2: I rest, which tails time yet Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm telling you I had it compass in

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the stock sundial all on the butt of my Red

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Writer be begun.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but those are recreations. So when they went to

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the nineteen thirty nine version, Red Writer Company is like, well,

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we're going to have to make one for you because

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it's not the way you remember it.

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Speaker 1: Right and speaking, which is important to note that this

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was supposed to be back in the nineteen thirties forties area,

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right that. Yeah, okay, So Bob Clark deliberately he tried

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I mean, not only did they do the costumes right

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and the cars right, but he had the way of filming.

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closing from one scene to the next scene, which was

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a totally old style of doing your cuts. But he

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nostalgia feeling, and he nailed it.

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Speaker 2: You know, a movie the cinematographer for Home Alone watched

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in order to get the right feel for the movie

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Christmas Story Perfect. How about that? All right, guys, let's

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take a quick break. We're going to intro a new

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podcast out there right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, plan your work and work your plan. For many athletes,

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saying such as this could be considered scripture, permanent sign

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posts lining the long road to success in sports. For some,

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the very act of pursuing a career in sports can

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give you a sense of control, a sense of safety,

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so long as you stick to the plan. That is,

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until life happens. Life that happens while you're making other plans.

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Breakdowns insecurity, panic attacks, PTSD, addiction, sudden life changes, ones

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that require an athlete to toss aside their well laid

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plans and answer the question, what's your next play? Blindsided

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is a podcast about sports, mental health, and life hosted.

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Speaker 2: By former NAHL goalie Corey Hirsch and psychiatrist doctor Diane McIntosh.

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The podcast will share and analyze the moments for a

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variety of athletes when everything changed for them and what

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happened when it did. The podcast lets listeners hear the

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athletes describe moments when mental health became the most important

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focus of their lives.

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Speaker 1: Blindsided then dives deeper, it gets clinical, and it allows

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listeners to leave with an understanding of the different varieties

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of mental health challenges people face, why they appear, and

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how athletes in particular face them down. Blindsided is a

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sports podcast not only for people who follow sports, but

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also for those who don't.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, go check got Blindsided?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's move back to home Alone.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we said we started off with Warner Brothers.

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The budget was ten million dollars, and they started making

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their movie, and day after day, event after event, the.

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Speaker 4: Budget started to creep up and creep up and creep up,

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and eventually they reached fourteen point seven million dollars and

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Warner Brothers called them up and said, you guys have

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to stop.

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Speaker 1: You're at fourteen point seven. You said you could make

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this movie for ten million. You need to stop, like

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you're gonna give us trouble. We're doing great. We've got

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all this stuff together. I mean they went cheap. I

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mean they get the cinematographer, second unit guy for movies

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like he had never really done it on his own before.

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a whole lot of experience to do these things, just

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to keep the budget within reasonable realms.

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Speaker 2: And it's not like they had Arnold Schwarzenegger in the

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title role, right, an eight year old kid, And so

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they went off by a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, we're talking about Hollywood standards here, that's

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Speaker 2: So John Hughes is like, no, this is bullkrap. This

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is Warner Brothers we're talking about. This is not some

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mom and pop thing. He's like, they'll make it. It's fine,

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I'll send him a letter. So John Hughes writes a letter.

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It's like there's nothing left to cut. So they're like,

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all right, we're pulling the plug.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But John Hughes had a little ace in his sleeve,

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right because he did something that if you live in

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Hollywood you would call it underhanded, that's right, or illegal? Right, Like,

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it's not okay. So he had talked to executives from

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twentieth Century Fox while the movie was still a Warner

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Brothers movie, and surreptitiously, somehow those guys got a copy

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of the script. That's funny how that happened, just happened

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on their doorstep somehow man. And so they when these

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things are going on with Warner Brothers, they're like, anything

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goes wrong, if it ends up and turnaround, you let

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Speaker 2: Just keep going.

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Speaker 1: And they're like how much did you say you were

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at and he's like fourteen point seven. They're like, you

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don't stop. Don't stop production. And so literally, when the

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hatchetman from Warner Brothers shows up, he goes from door

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to door in the New Trier School to their offices

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and say, all right, guys, shut it down, we're cutting it.

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This movie's over. And right behind him was the assistant

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director who's like, no.

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Speaker 2: Shut it down.

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Speaker 1: And he would literally follow him from office to office.

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And when he walked out of the building, he turned

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around and he's like, what's going on. He's like, what's

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going on? Is you're fired?

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love that story. And we're talking

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about I mean, fourteen fifteen million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine being the Warner Brothers guy who said

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kill this movie and then seeing it hit number one

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week one, then week two, week three, week four five,

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I mean something like twelve to fourteen weeks this movie

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was in the number one spot.

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Speaker 2: It's insane. It made almost what half a billion dollars?

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Speaker 1: Like it was, yeah, in the four hundred million dollar.

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Speaker 2: Range, and they let it slip through their fingers over

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one point two million dollars.

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Speaker 1: It's nice. Warner Brothers, Warner Brothers.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, Daniel Stern was filming City Slickers, and Billy Crystal

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would get a copy of the magazine and he kept

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coming to me. He was like, Hey, your movie's number one,

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movies number one. They were shot City Slickers for three months.

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Speaker 1: Was number one. It was in the theater for six months.

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Speaker 2: It's insane.

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Speaker 1: It is insane.

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Speaker 1: Ye, Home Alone was in the theater.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk a little bit about those guys

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who were editing and filming and such like that. So

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the guy who had only done se a unit, who

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is their cinematographer, he's a little concerned that he might

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mess something up, and so he had a little like

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tiny extra camera that he would set up for every

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shot just to get coverage right, just to just to

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make sure in case something goes wrong with the main picture,

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that I've got that. And he called it his chicken camera.

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Please believe that, the bonus camera. Yes, And so he

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was like, not only was it invaluable, but I started

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to realize some of my best shots were coming from

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the chicken can. And so a lot of what you

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he had set up. And some of the reasons that

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it's so good are the stunts, because the stunt would

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you know, he'd have one camera set up and he'd

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catch the stunt man's face or whatever. And I mean,

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you watch those stunts, Holy cow, you think that's a

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real person. This isn't a cartoon, Like those guys are

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real human beings falling as herds again, and there wasn't padding.

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This is a low budget movie. There was a guy

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dressed up like Joe Peshy who fell as hard as

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he could after doing a four foot jump in the air,

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straight on to his back. Chris Columbus said, they wouldn't

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watch the take. They'd say action, they'd turn away and

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then once they knew it was over, they go, is

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he okay, okay, all right? And then and it was

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ready to do it again. Those stuntmen are amazing. I mean,

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you just got to think about iron to the face,

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shot in the crotch, blow towards whatever you got. It

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is amazing the stuff that those guys went through, including

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the stuntman for Macaulay Culkin.

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Speaker 2: Who is a thirty year old man, yeah, who is

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just just short.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, short, and then just worked out. Well.

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Speaker 2: The one stunt that bothers me the most is that

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backslash neck. Yeah, and he lands. I mean, dude, I

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wouldn't be like dead.

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Speaker 1: You listen to him talking about He's like, I love it.

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I love he must be a massacre. He just enjoys

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the painting. Crazy. So, how do you make a movie

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that's got this much violence and still make it PG

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and acceptable to parents and kids. You make it a

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cartoon movie. That's what you do. And so that's he

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was pulling. The guy who they had doing the editing

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was pulling sounds and notions and shots from the Looney

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tunes he watched looney tunes to get the beats of

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the movie, like when do you show the slip?

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Speaker 2: When do you show the crunch? When do you show

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the Marv?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing Marv?

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Speaker 2: You know the tarantula scene, the Transla on the face scene,

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and it was like super scary. Right, I guess translas

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are deaf, like they can't hear like Daniel Stems, like

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if I scream my guts, sound, is this thing gonna

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bite me? And they're like, no, no, it's deaf. Can't

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hear you? Okay, sure, there it goes. By the way

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that Transella's name they never say in the movie. You

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get it from the novelization. Okay, Transella's name Axel.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, is it Fully or Rose?

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Speaker 2: I believe it's Rose based on the year that it

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess Buzz would probably be a g n

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R fan. By the way, your girlfriend.

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son of like the assistant director. They felt it was

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going to be too mean to take a picture of

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a real girl and then talk about how much of

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a dog she is. So it's his son. That picture

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is hilarious.

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Speaker 1: That's hysterical.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that I want to talk about

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during the production, like they would film scenes with the

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family in France, and when they cut it all together

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and they showed it to test audiences, people could have

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cared less about the mcallisters in France. They wanted just

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to get back to Kevin.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and that's another question, you know, how do

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you make how do you create a believable story where

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the mother leaves her child at home and is not

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a human being that you hate?

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Speaker 2: Okay, we got to talk about that. So that's the

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biggest problem with this movie.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Ye most people when they watch it, they're like, well,

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she's a terrible mother. I would say, she's not a

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terrible mother. No, Okay. She had a series of unfortunate events,

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including the neighbor boy who came over and looked enough

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like Kevin to be counted as part of the family.

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They were in a huge rush because they overslept because the.

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Speaker 1: Power line right right.

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Speaker 2: But one thing that you might miss when you watch

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the movie that I only caught this time when Kevin

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and Buzz get in a fight at the dinner before

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they have their flight or whatever, he knocks over a

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bunch of milk. Mister McAllister scoops up this giant mess

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and it includes Kevin's ticket, his airline ticket.

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Speaker 1: Yep, if you freeze frame it, you can see the

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ticket being thrown into the trash.

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Speaker 2: I guess John Hughes was intent on covering all the holes, right,

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So I noted because I knew that that was the case.

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Speaker 1: I watched as they came onto the plane, and they

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just make it onto the plane, right, and the flight

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attendant is like, you just made it. And so she's

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got all of the tickets in her hand. They hand

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them all to her at the same time, and so

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she's got the tickets. She's counting the heads as they

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go onto the plane. And that's why you don't get

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a miscount. It's because that ticket got thrown away.

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Speaker 2: John Hughes is brilliant. There was a scene that was

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actually cut from the movie when Kevin realizes that his

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family is missing. He burst out the front door and

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into the front lawn and.

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Speaker 1: Like, where's my family?

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Speaker 2: And the garage doors are up. They actually did forget

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to put the garage doores.

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Speaker 1: That's right, yep.

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Speaker 2: So I thought this was interesting. The Christmas ornaments that

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Daniel Stearn has to step on. Yeah, So we talked

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about how die Hard and Home Alone have people picking

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glasses of their feet. Those ornaments he actually did step on.

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Iheard he wore those as well, But those ornaments were

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made of sugar, so those shards are not really that sharp, gotcha.

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We talked about how they had this cartoon language where

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they didn't curse at all. Right, right about the fifty

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three minute mark, Daniel Stern does let out the old

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sh word.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: It just kind of slides under. You don't really notice it, right.

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he's retrieving his boot through the doggy door, right, And

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it even shows up in the subtitles, which I thought

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was funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is also probably the time in a Christmas

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Story where Ralphie realizes that his decoder ring has been

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an advertisement from a commercial says, I just want to

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talk about that. There's a moment that's like with actors

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on movies, you have these small scenes, right, like this

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boom happens, Boom happened. They're looking at their script as

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it goes right. Right. But there in this home alone,

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there is an extended dialogue scene that involves Kevin mcaulay culkin,

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just this very young actor doing the scene, and it's

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the one in the church, right, And it's an emotional, moving,

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important moment because it's like it's like we talked about,

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you have to fall in love with the character before

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you see him go do all this horrible stuff, right,

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because you're about to see him go do some really

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mean and dastardly things, although it is the bad guys,

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but before that you are touched. Your heart is touched. Right.

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And it's that scene with the old man in the

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church talking about his son and his granddaughter who was

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singing in the choir. Right. So Chris Columbus was concerned

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about the scene. And Chris Columbus is a great guy

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to work with kids, like he just loves treats him

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like grown ups but still appreciates that there are kids

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and has fun with them. So he was worried about

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how the scene was going to go, he said. Macaulay

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Culkin showed up for this scene and had it memorized

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and did it perfectly right out of the gate, right

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like it was likely they were watching a stage performance.

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He had it all down and delivered it all perfectly

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from beginning to end.

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Speaker 2: You know, that scene I think would mirror the scene

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in Diehard when Bruge Willis is picking the glass out

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of his feet talking about how I always told his

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wife he loved her, but he never said he was sorry. Yep,

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you gotta nail that one, because it's time to go get.

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Speaker 1: The bad guys right right, Okay, we're ready to talk composers.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk composers.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So jumping back to a Christmas story, we have

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a couple guys. We have Paul Zaza, yes, and Carl Zitter. Now,

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Carl Zitter has done a music composition for New Jack

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City and Moonstruck, and then of course he also did

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it for a couple of Bob Clark movies called The

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Murder by Numbers and Black Christmas. As we discussed, Murder

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by Numbers also involved Paul's Aza, and Paul's Oza was

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also the composer for Baby Genuses. The music that they

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have in this movie is very Christmas based, right, it's

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all and then you have the kind of chase and

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the kids are running away from the bullies. Right, it's

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very subtle. It's not breathtaking, but it makes the movie

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in a non obtrusive way, right, would you agree?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 1: So then jump forward to Home Alone. They have a

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guy who's supposed to do the music composition for Home Alone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know who that guy is. His name is

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Bruce Broughton. H He was attached as the original composer.

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He worked with Chris Columbus when they did Young Sherlock Holmes,

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but he left Home Alone to go do The Rescuers

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down Under.

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, okay, well he had composed some music for it.

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Ultimately we know that it didn't get used in the movie, right,

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just wasn't right. But there they are. They've got a movie,

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they've got it cut together, but they don't have music. Like, okay,

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well what are we going to do? Who are we

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going to to get? And Chris Columbus as a joke,

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because we're talking about a small budget movie by a

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director who has done two movies, one of which is

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an absolute failure, and he goes going to be great

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if we could get John Williams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the greatest living movie composer of all time.

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Speaker 1: Right. Somehow John Williams gets the rough cut of the movie.

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He calls them on the phone and says, I love

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this movie. Is it okay? If I compose the music

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for it?

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Speaker 2: Gosh? And it was so key to the feel and

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tone of this movie.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yes. I mean he takes all of

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those Tchaikowsky Nutcracker music suits and weaves them perfectly into

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his own music, which creates the I mean, it changes

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the movie. I mean without that music, it's not the

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same movie it is. It takes it to that number

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one over and over again, week after week. Level.

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Speaker 2: The word he used was I was enchanted. Yeah, which

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is so John Williams, Yeah, it is. It really is so.

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Then of course Chris almost goes on to do the

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Harry Potter movies, right, and John Williams does this as well.

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Speaker 1: And it's also very christmas y, very.

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Speaker 2: First lots of bells and chines.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah for sure. Okay, So on the music, not

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only do we have you know that Christmas music, but

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do you know what music plays when the bullies come out?

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Speaker 2: It's like Peter and the Wolf, right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And of course the bullies are Grover Dill and Scott Farcus,

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which is a Hungarian word which means wolf.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's great.

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Speaker 1: There you go down out of the day all right.

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Of note in home alone, just talking about the little

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the little nuances you know, right that make it. Yes,

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there's almost no blue in the entire movie. It is

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almost exclusively red and green.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. The guy who did it, the production designer, Yeah,

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he doesn't even like Christmas. Yeah, I hate Christmas. But

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let's make everything green and red.

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Speaker 1: And it works. It's I mean, that movie makes you

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feel like Christmas.

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Speaker 2: It does. Okay. One things I wanted to bring up

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and we didn't talk about this. During casting, John Hughes

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called in a favor with his buddy John Candy. So

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John Candy says, yeah, I'll do it. You got one

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day with me. So John Hughes is like, great, one day.

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So they bring him and he works for scale. He

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actually earned less than the pizza boy, right, he went

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five hundred bucks. John Candy made four fourteen for one

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day's worth of work. So when he gets to the set,

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he allows John Candy to improvise, does all his Boca

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Boca PoCA, all that stuff. R and he and Catherine

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Nahara had worked together on SETV, so they knew each other.

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They were comfortable, they were improv actors, all that stuff.

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But here's the funny part. John Candy said, yeah, I'll

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work for one day. He didn't realize that it was

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actually going to be twenty three hours of filming. He said,

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there was a moment in the day when he glared

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at John Hughes is like, it's seven am.

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Speaker 1: What the heck?

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Speaker 2: I thought that was funny. Yep, I do think that

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it's funny. The movie Angels with Filthy Souls.

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Speaker 1: Was created and directed specifically for this movie. Yes, keep

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a change a filthy Animal.

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Speaker 2: Yes. In fact, the set pieces in that movie were

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like cardboard and stuff like that. They barely pieced it together.

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Keep the Change of Filthy.

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Speaker 1: Animals, And then in part two he watches Angels with

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Filthy year Souls.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's right. I guess the two actors had to

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reverse their roles. I don't know their names. So the

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guy who was like, keep the change of filthy animal

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and the other guy who's like, hey snakes, wait, they

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were actually reversed, but one guy hurt his knee, so

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00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,759
he couldn't take the fall. Ah, So the guy who

474
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,480
ended up shooting the guy he came back for the

475
00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:48,079
sequel because he had an injured knee.

476
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 1: So yeah. So interestingly, this narration thing that the executive

477
00:23:53,759 --> 00:23:56,640
said was not going to be of interest to anyone

478
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,559
ended up spawning a TV series where you had somebody

479
00:24:01,799 --> 00:24:04,680
narrating what happened to them when they were young. Except

480
00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:07,640
taking place in the forties. It took place from nineteen

481
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,279
sixty eight to nineteen seventy six. You know what the

482
00:24:10,319 --> 00:24:11,400
show is I'm talking about.

483
00:24:11,599 --> 00:24:12,839
Speaker 2: We're talking about The Wonder Years.

484
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and do you know who the narrator was, Daniel Stern.

485
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:16,319
There you go.

486
00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: The Wonder Years is based off a Christmas story.

487
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it inspired it. It inspired the creation of the

488
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:22,839
Wonder Years.

489
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that now. Yeah, I had not

490
00:24:24,839 --> 00:24:27,039
put those two together. That is cool.

491
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: The fantasy sequences are a key part of this, right,

492
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,400
You've got the.

493
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 2: So poisoning.

494
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: You knew you'll be pushing up nighties. Yeah. So there

495
00:24:38,839 --> 00:24:42,839
was an additional scene that was filmed that was in

496
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,960
the movie where he's in space using his Red Rider

497
00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:50,640
be begun to help out a hero that we've discussed

498
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:51,640
earlier this year.

499
00:24:57,319 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: Flash Gordon, Yep.

500
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,759
Speaker 1: The Buster Crab version in the flashboard.

501
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 2: Yes, I would have loved to have seen that.

502
00:25:02,839 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's I think you can see it

503
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,880
on maybe a TV or did they lose it.

504
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: I think it's like it's gone in a warehouse somewhere

505
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:10,640
or something.

506
00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. If you Shirley fans, if you've got

507
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,799
access to that scene, if you know about it, send

508
00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:18,279
it to us. But yeah, film the whole scene, but

509
00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:20,359
decided it was just a little too much, and it

510
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,000
was you you really need threes, Three is funny, four

511
00:25:24,079 --> 00:25:27,880
is too much, and you've got soap poisoning. You've got

512
00:25:28,079 --> 00:25:32,880
the cowboy scene, and you've got Yeah, and you've got

513
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:38,000
the teacher. Hey. And I really think that the you know,

514
00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:41,559
CEOs is just a part two to that dreams. I'd

515
00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:41,839
go with that.

516
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,839
Speaker 2: One thing. I want to mention about John Hurd. We

517
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,680
talked about him as Peter McAllister. Okay, so here's the

518
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,880
funny thing about that. He was unhappy about working on

519
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:52,440
this movie.

520
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: He did not like it.

521
00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 2: He did not think it was going to do anything.

522
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,240
He was not.

523
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: Into it really.

524
00:25:57,599 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but after seeing the finished product and of course

525
00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:05,000
the success. After that, he realized that he was wrong.

526
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,279
So while they were shooting his scenes for Home Alone two,

527
00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:11,400
he broke character, spoke directly through the camera and told

528
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,599
Chris Columbus, sorry, I was wrong.

529
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,559
Speaker 1: Oh nice, pretty cool. Yeah, that's great.

530
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: Chris Columbus says he still has that footage of Herd's

531
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,440
apology on a video.

532
00:26:20,759 --> 00:26:23,599
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. YEP. I remembered him, of course from

533
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,680
Big Big. Yeah, he was a jerk coworker and big.

534
00:26:27,599 --> 00:26:29,039
Speaker 2: You know, just come in here and say bugs.

535
00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: Bugs.

536
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,079
Speaker 2: One of the scenes I wanted to talk about from

537
00:26:34,079 --> 00:26:36,680
a Christmas story, Uh, that caught me off guard when

538
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,160
I saw it in the movie theater for the first

539
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,319
time was when he finally gets the BB gun on

540
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:46,160
Christmas morning and he goes outside and he's like, oh, yes,

541
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,759
I was so happy for him that he got the

542
00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:50,759
BB gun and it goes and he's looking at that thing.

543
00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:53,240
He's going to shoot it, and it hits that bird

544
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,359
bath and it comes right back and hits his in

545
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,799
the eye and he's like, oh my god, shut my

546
00:26:56,839 --> 00:27:00,119
eye out. That was so out of left field. And

547
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,240
I saw it. I was shocked and laughing, like, oh,

548
00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:05,880
my gosh, he shut his eye on.

549
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,599
Speaker 1: You know, it's such great writing too, because it's led

550
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,880
up to that moment the whole time. It's led up,

551
00:27:12,279 --> 00:27:16,319
and then you're just like, oh no, oh, it's the

552
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:22,240
worst and then he steps on his glasses. Oh no, oh,

553
00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:24,359
my gosh, so good, so good.

554
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about reception on the Central quick.

555
00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:28,559
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean we talked.

556
00:27:28,319 --> 00:27:31,319
Speaker 2: About it briefly, but Home Alone made almost half a

557
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,319
billion dollars. It was number one for fourteen weeks. We

558
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,160
talked about how it destroyed everything else that came out

559
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,319
that same time period, YEP, like Predator.

560
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: Two came out Rocky five.

561
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,759
Speaker 2: Rocky five was buried right.

562
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,599
Speaker 1: As it should be. It should it still should.

563
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,759
Speaker 2: Be well, and Predator two wasn't any good either. Yeah,

564
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,200
they now use that term. If you get buried by

565
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,920
a movie at the box office, they call it getting

566
00:27:58,920 --> 00:27:59,480
Home Alone.

567
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: Nice.

568
00:28:01,039 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 2: Next summer when we talk about ET, Yeah, ET had

569
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,640
the same effect for all the other movies that came

570
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,119
out in June.

571
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:07,279
Speaker 5: Yep.

572
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 2: They guaranteed YEP.

573
00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: So for a Christmas story, it wasn't such a rousing success.

574
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,039
It wasn't bad. It wasn't like it did terrible but

575
00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:19,039
it wasn't some big, humongous hit. But this was right

576
00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:22,400
around the time that VHS was becoming big and that

577
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,440
cable television was becoming big, and so you just saw it.

578
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,559
It was like, oh, it's Christmas time, let's get a

579
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,680
Christmas story. A Christmas story is on HBO. We should

580
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,519
watch that tonight. You would watch it. And then in

581
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:38,440
the mid nineties something interesting happened, and this relates back

582
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:43,000
to Wizard of os Ted Turner had TBS and he

583
00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:46,279
then got T and T and he decided, Hey, I'm

584
00:28:46,279 --> 00:28:50,319
going to start on Christmas showing a movie twenty four

585
00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:52,880
hours a day, and the movie that he picked was

586
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,200
Wizard of Oska. And the first year did pretty good,

587
00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:58,440
and the second year it didn't do as good, right,

588
00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:00,759
and so it's like, okay, well, let's try It's a

589
00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:03,640
Wonderful Life, which, by the way, you just did a

590
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,279
podcast with our friends from thirty something podcast movie podcast

591
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,759
on It's a Wonderful Life.

592
00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: I watched it for the first time, which is nuts.

593
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: And how do you feel about it now?

594
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,759
Speaker 2: It was remarkably good.

595
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: Right, everybody expects it to not be good because it's

596
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,799
an old black white movie. It is amazing. It's amazing, right,

597
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,720
I saw you rank it in your top three on Twitter?

598
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: Am I wrong?

599
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:32,319
Speaker 1: In Christmas movies? Yeah, it's very very good movie. So

600
00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:35,279
they that again, ran it for twenty four hours. First

601
00:29:35,319 --> 00:29:39,920
year pretty successful, second year not so much so. Try

602
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,880
number three A Christmas Story. First year pretty successful, second

603
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:50,880
year more successful. And for the last twenty four years

604
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,559
it has been on Christmas Eve to Christmas Day, twelve showings,

605
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,920
twenty four hours and has basically become a trip to

606
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:03,799
They didn't even come out with memorabilia for the movie

607
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,039
until two thousand and three. That's insane, that piece, that

608
00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:10,839
piece of playing at twenty four hours a day. Although

609
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,079
I was very familiar with it the time they started that,

610
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,880
I was like, oh, this is a great movie. It

611
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,480
was that that turned this movie into probably the icon

612
00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:20,160
that it is today.

613
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: You want to hear a funny story, sure, so you

614
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,759
know it's Christmas time or whatever, we open presents, we

615
00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:27,880
drive to Tulsa to my in laws. Huh, they are

616
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,440
approximately two hours away from my house.

617
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so whenever.

618
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,599
Speaker 2: We stop watching The Christmas Story in Norman and we

619
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,359
get to Tulsa, it's about the same spot.

620
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: Perfect. That's perfect. Yeah, I will say this. Our Christmas

621
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,759
tradition since we've had kids, so we're talking eighteen years now,

622
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,559
has always been we do Christmas Morning at our house

623
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:52,640
and then around lunchtime we go over to my wife's

624
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,160
mother's house. We have the same kind of food every year,

625
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,440
and it's great, and the TV is always on and

626
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,480
it's always playing story right until last year. Last year

627
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,480
the movie that was playing Diard. Yes, all right, buddy,

628
00:31:08,119 --> 00:31:11,839
the time is here. I heard Santas sleigh bells overhead.

629
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,160
We've got to get to bed. So before we do,

630
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,960
we've got to give final judgment. We have iconic movie

631
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:26,680
home alone, mega mega mega hit versus A Christmas Story,

632
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,920
iconic nostalgia. What do you say?

633
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So after analyzing these, and I told you I

634
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,279
saw both of these in the movie theater, I laughed

635
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:38,640
my butt off in both of these. I love them.

636
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,440
They are fantastic Christmas movies. I am a huge, huge

637
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,960
John Hughes fan. I would not say I'm a huge

638
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,319
Bob Clark fan. And really the actors and stuff that

639
00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:54,000
in Christmas Story, they didn't really do anything after it

640
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,319
that I'm in love with. But that's not the case

641
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,880
with all the people from Home Alone. But I love

642
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,559
the vignette style of a Christmas story. It's little bitty

643
00:32:05,599 --> 00:32:08,640
stories all stacked on top of each other, with the

644
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:12,799
overarching I want to be begun for Christmas story. Now, then,

645
00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:16,400
I love Home Alone. I've seen it a million times,

646
00:32:16,599 --> 00:32:20,039
but watching it over and over again, it's not as

647
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,039
enchanting as it once was. Ok Now, I love John Hughes.

648
00:32:24,079 --> 00:32:26,400
You will not find a bigger John Hughes fan than me.

649
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:31,000
I'm also a little bit bitter at Home Alone because

650
00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:34,680
it altered the course of John Hughes's career. Because Home

651
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,119
Alone was such a gigantic mega hit, we stopped getting

652
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,559
the breakfast Club in Ferris Buelo's Day Off and instead

653
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:44,359
we got Baby's Day Out and Flubber and Curly Sue

654
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,599
and Dennis the Menace. So I kind of hold a

655
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,599
grudge against Home Alone because of that. So for me,

656
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,920
the better of these two movies is a Christmas story.

657
00:32:54,279 --> 00:33:02,119
Speaker 1: D Okay, You've got die Hard a house at Christmas,

658
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:09,000
and it's mixed with Looney Tunes, slapstick, painful comedy for

659
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:12,079
the thumb, and pinky perfect combination of Joe Peshey and

660
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,559
Daniel Stern. This is potentially a perfect movie. Okay, is

661
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,880
it is arguably a perfect movie. Is so solidly dude

662
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,519
with a problem and Dude solves the problem, and it's hysterical,

663
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,359
it's well acted, it's well directed. I mean it changed

664
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:32,839
the trajectory of Chris Columbus as well. I mean, talk

665
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,880
about and kind of a swan song for John Hughes.

666
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,200
Although he did do Miracle on thirty fourth Street and

667
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,839
some other great ones, it really was kind of the

668
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:45,960
peak of what was an escalating career and tragically we

669
00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:48,720
lost him too early. Went out for a walk one

670
00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:52,160
day and had art attack. Yeah, and my gosh, the

671
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,400
man has given us so many iconic movies. I hate

672
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,880
to say this, but I have to agree with you.

673
00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:03,440
Oh wow, a Christmas story. Even though it's not some

674
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:08,360
great plot structure, it's not some it's not something that

675
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,480
launched the careers of a whole bunch of people or

676
00:34:10,519 --> 00:34:12,639
any it was even a big hit at the time.

677
00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:16,559
It does something that not many movies do, which is

678
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:20,719
capture a memory. It captures a memory, and that memory

679
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,880
is a timeless memory because even though those things happened

680
00:34:24,039 --> 00:34:27,320
are supposed to have happened back in the thirties and forties,

681
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:30,800
the scene changes, but the people are the same. Those

682
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,159
are all things that I remember doing, and not nobody

683
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,079
stuck their tongue to a light bulb, but we did

684
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,519
things equally as stupid. There were bullies that we had

685
00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:41,920
to deal with, there were snowballs to the face, there

686
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,360
were parents who didn't understand us, and there were those

687
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,679
Christmas presents that we wanted that we knew meant the

688
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,159
entire world to us. But as it turned out, what

689
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,599
was really important was the family, right, And in both

690
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:02,079
of these movies, that's kind of the messages that really

691
00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:05,599
a family is what's important. But it's Christmas Story that

692
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,840
really brings that message home. It moves me. I tear

693
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,599
up every time at the bully scene. I usually tear

694
00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:18,400
up whenever the dad is chuckling giddily to himself because

695
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,480
he knows he's gotten his boy the present that he

696
00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:26,199
really truly wanted. And so because of that, I've got

697
00:35:26,199 --> 00:35:29,480
to say I agree, Christmas Story is my movie as well.

698
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,039
Speaker 2: Nice. Nice, I've got two questions for you, Okay, before

699
00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:35,880
we throw it out to our listeners, who we want

700
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,960
to hear from you, what is your favorite of these

701
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:38,400
two movies.

702
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 1: But I got two questions for you before you go

703
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,559
into those questions. Yeah, I will say this, Caleb, I

704
00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:47,679
refer to routine lying on the show. He would throw

705
00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:49,599
a snowball at me if he knew that I picked

706
00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:52,519
Christmas story of a Home Loan to him. Home Alone

707
00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:55,440
is by far the better movie. It's an action packed

708
00:35:55,559 --> 00:35:59,320
it's the little kid shooting the bad guys. It's comedy,

709
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,679
gold Fantasy loves it. He loves it, and a Christmas story.

710
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He can take it or leave it.

711
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Speaker 2: It's his Diehard it is, Yeah.

712
00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: It really is. And he loves Diehart too.

713
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Speaker 2: Then all right, so here are my two questions.

714
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Speaker 1: All right, right, yeah, okay.

715
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Speaker 2: What is the one Christmas present that you always wanted

716
00:36:18,679 --> 00:36:19,880
that when you got it, you're.

717
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Speaker 1: Like, man, this is it, no question about it. It

718
00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:24,559
was the Nintendo Entertainment System. A year it came out.

719
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:31,719
Oh I can remember with ten eighty clarity seeing the

720
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advertisement for the Nintendo System. You had the little robot,

721
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,880
you had the gun. But the thing that zoomed out

722
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,039
to me was Super Mario Brothers hitting that little key

723
00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:46,119
question mark, and I was like, oh my gosh, I've

724
00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:50,760
spent literally tens twenties, no telling you how much money

725
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,000
play in this video game. My favorite video game in

726
00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:58,280
the arcade is now available in a home entertainment system.

727
00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:02,559
I want this. This is all I want, all that

728
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:04,880
I want. I don't care if you get me anything else.

729
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,599
This is all that I want. And I can remember.

730
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,519
It's a tradition at our house that you get to

731
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:14,639
open one present on Christmas Eve. Right. That was the

732
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year that when I opened my Christmas Eve present, open

733
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:23,639
it up, it was batteries. I was like what. I

734
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,320
was like, No, you can't just wrap batteries and that'd

735
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,599
be okay because it turned out Robot needed batteries, and

736
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:33,679
so they were the batteries to the present that wasn't

737
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,079
under the tree at the time. It didn't come until

738
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after I had gone to sleep.

739
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Speaker 2: They all had fake there.

740
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: Yes, it was thanks everyone, Yeah, said definitely. So how

741
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about you?

742
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Speaker 2: What was your The thing that I wanted most and

743
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,000
eventually got, although it took me like three Christmases to

744
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,920
get it was the Kinner Millennium Falcon. Oh yeah, that's

745
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,760
all I wanted. That was number one, two, three, four,

746
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,800
and five on my list. I want the freaking Millennium Falcon.

747
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,119
Speaker 1: Right, right right, And when I.

748
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Speaker 2: Got it, I fell in love with the I played

749
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it all the time. But here's the funny story. I

750
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,960
had it all set up with all my guys. I

751
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,639
was playing with it, having a good time. It's time

752
00:38:06,679 --> 00:38:08,800
for bed. Get in bed. I had a bunk bed,

753
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,239
fell off my bunk bed one time my entire life.

754
00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:13,280
In the middle of the night, I rolled out, fell

755
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,559
off the top, bug landed on my Millennium Falcon and

756
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:19,119
smashed it and never replaced it.

757
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: That is heartbreaking. I know it was heartbreaking real quick.

758
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,320
There's a movie that's just come out. I think it's

759
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,000
on Netflix or something like that. I've just seen the

760
00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:30,599
preview four but it's called eight Bit Christmas. Yeah, it's

761
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:37,719
obviously a remake type thing of a Christmas Story, except

762
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,840
instead of a red writer be begun. It's a Nintendo

763
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,880
entertainment so fantastic. So I got to go check that

764
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,079
one out. Hopefully it's it's good. It looks like it's

765
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:47,320
got a six point seven on IMDb though.

766
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Speaker 2: So all right, well we want to hear from you guys,

767
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,639
which were these two classic Christmas movie I forgot to

768
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:55,599
ask my second question. All right, here's your second question.

769
00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:56,199
You're ready for this?

770
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.

771
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,519
Speaker 2: We've covered five Christmas movies now, okay, die Hard, Leath

772
00:39:01,559 --> 00:39:04,679
the Weapon, Home Alone, Christmas Story, and the Star Wars

773
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:09,679
Holiday Special. Give me your ranking one through five? Ready, said, go, oh.

774
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: My gosh, that's oh my gosh. Okay, So if I'm

775
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,840
walking out the door, die Hard is number one with

776
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:28,800
that question. Okay, uh, number two, it's so hard. Okay,

777
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,679
die Hard, a Christmas Story, Home Alone, lethal Weapon, and

778
00:39:35,199 --> 00:39:37,559
I don't think I'm ever ever going to watch Star

779
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:38,159
Wars Special.

780
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you're crazy.

781
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: They're all close. I mean, I love them all. I

782
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,280
would watch any of them anytimes, and they're fantastic movies.

783
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,440
You're forcing me into a hole.

784
00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: Here, all right, here you go?

785
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: You ready?

786
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, die Hard, Leath a Weapon, now, a Christmas Story

787
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,119
Home Alone, and despite my unusual affection for the Star

788
00:39:56,159 --> 00:39:59,360
Wars Holiday Special, it's definitely fit right.

789
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, okay.

790
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 7: Now that we've given our ranks, we are going to

791
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have a little special Shirley showcase and one of our

792
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:28,119
good friends, author extraordinary mister Van Allen Plexico, and.

793
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Speaker 2: Here's how he ranked our five Christmas podcasts.

794
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 5: Hey, guys, Van Allen Plexico. Here from the White Rocket

795
00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:38,440
Entertainment Network. You have asked me to rank these five

796
00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:43,079
Christmas related features, and so here goes, counting down from

797
00:40:43,159 --> 00:40:46,199
number five. At number five, we have a Christmas Story.

798
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,840
I have never understood why people obsess over this movie.

799
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,679
It's just kind of weird and the lamp thing and

800
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,880
the BB gun and it's almost like whatever. Moving on

801
00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:00,559
number four home alone, it's not my cup of either,

802
00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:03,639
but at least it's got some action and wacky violence

803
00:41:03,679 --> 00:41:06,320
to keep us all entertained. And what more can we

804
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,079
ask for at Christmas time than wacky violence exactly? And

805
00:41:11,199 --> 00:41:15,320
speaking of wacky violence, at number three comes Lethal Weapon.

806
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,840
I've never loved this movie. I've never considered it a

807
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,079
great movie, but it's a pretty decent one. And probably

808
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:23,800
most folks would say that Lethal Weapon two is a

809
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,360
better Lethal Weapon movie. But that being said, this one

810
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,000
ranks right in the middle for me. I mean, the

811
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:32,199
two lead actors are pretty good and it has some

812
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,519
fun stuff in it. I'll even forgive Shane Black for

813
00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:37,239
a ruining Iron Man with the Iron Man three because

814
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,400
this is a pretty good movie. So number three is

815
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,079
Lethal Weapon number two. The Star Wars Holiday Special, an

816
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,440
utter glorious train wreck in all other respects. It is

817
00:41:48,559 --> 00:41:51,639
rightfully derided in that fashion by fans and has been

818
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:54,960
for over forty years. I remember watching it when it aired,

819
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,880
and I wondered what in the world I was seeing.

820
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,480
If I'd been a little bit older, I'd have been

821
00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:00,840
wondering what kind of drugs were in in the creation

822
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,920
as special? But how is it ranked number two? Because

823
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,719
it is memorable, it is an iconic event in Star

824
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:13,400
Wars history, and most importantly, it introduces Boba Fett. Yes,

825
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:16,599
he's a cartoon and not a very good cartoon, but

826
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,920
he's the greatest Star Wars character of all and so

827
00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:23,360
the fact that it introduces Boba fet ranks this number

828
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,239
two all time on the list of these five entertainments

829
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,000
and number one?

830
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: Is this even a question?

831
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 5: Diehard?

832
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:29,159
Speaker 1: Come on.

833
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:32,079
Speaker 5: It's so much a Christmas movie that when I saw

834
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:33,960
it in the theater in the middle of a blazing

835
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,800
hot summer in nineteen eighty eight, when I left the theater,

836
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,559
I was fully expecting to be freezing cold. When I

837
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:42,039
got outside, I thought there'd be snow on the ground.

838
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,840
I thought Christmas music would be playing from every car

839
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,239
that passed by. I fully expected it to be snowing

840
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,119
when I left the theater in like July of nineteen

841
00:42:51,159 --> 00:42:54,039
eighty eight. After seeing this movie, it's so great. It's

842
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:56,599
set up the whole genre of action movies of this type,

843
00:42:56,599 --> 00:42:59,719
and it is so very Christmas y. All right, there

844
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,440
you go. Oh, that is your five movies or entertainments

845
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,039
that you wanted me to rank, and I have ranked them.

846
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:07,239
I'm sure others will disagree, but that's my ranking. I

847
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,280
am Van Allen Plexiico. Check out all my shows by

848
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,800
going to www dot plexiico dot net, p l e

849
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,280
Xico dot net, or search White Rocket on any pod app.

850
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 7: Oh wow, Okay, so you think you know a guy

851
00:43:22,639 --> 00:43:26,760
I'm I'm I'm baffled here, But I mean he came

852
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:27,760
strong with the opinion.

853
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,159
Speaker 1: He came strong with it.

854
00:43:29,079 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 7: Even though I totally disagree with what he had to

855
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,400
say about most of it.

856
00:43:33,679 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm on board that Diehard's the best, though. What what? What?

857
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,199
What what do you think? Man? What do you think

858
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:39,159
about those rankings?

859
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,039
Speaker 3: I think it's strong.

860
00:43:40,119 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: He's coming with Star Wars Holiday Special number two that

861
00:43:44,119 --> 00:43:46,360
is amazing. He gives a lot of credit because of

862
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:46,840
both event.

863
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: I think it's great. He's a little bit hard on

864
00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:50,559
Home Alone and the Christmas story.

865
00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 7: They had lethal weapon and lethal weapon.

866
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: That's true.

867
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,639
Speaker 7: I guess he's I understand he's a little bit bitter

868
00:43:55,679 --> 00:43:57,440
about what he did with Ironman three.

869
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 2: But he hates Ironman three. He wants to meet Shane

870
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,800
Black in a dark alley sometime.

871
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:04,639
Speaker 1: It's hilarious.

872
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 7: Van Allen Plexiko, Thank you very much, sir. That was

873
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:10,199
awesome and I love it. And a Merry Christmas.

874
00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 2: Thanks Man, appreciate you, man, Thank you to everybody who's

875
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,639
made this special year. Merry Christmas to everybody.

876
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,159
Speaker 1: God bless us everything.

877
00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us and on our fun. We

878
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,519
hope to see you in season three. We're gonna take

879
00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:25,159
some time off.

880
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna take some time off, but it'll probably be

881
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:31,800
February because we've got the fiftieth anniversary of The Godfather

882
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,280
coming up. We've got the new release of The Batman

883
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,519
coming up, and we're going to be doing some special

884
00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:43,000
episodes on those and before we go. It takes us

885
00:44:43,159 --> 00:44:45,920
literally hours and hours to put just one of these

886
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,519
episodes together. So if you can, if you feel like

887
00:44:49,559 --> 00:44:51,960
giving us a Christmas present this year for next year,

888
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,559
go to our Patreon page. It's patreon dot com slash

889
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,079
Shirly Podcast, and you can help us out with the

890
00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:02,119
monthly donation. But even if we had to do it

891
00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:04,320
for free, we would do it because there are some

892
00:45:04,599 --> 00:45:08,079
amazing people that we've met and would not have known

893
00:45:08,119 --> 00:45:10,719
them and met them but through this podcast. And so

894
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,760
we want to take this time to say thank you

895
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,360
and Merry Christmas to a select group of folks.

896
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: That's right. So first of all our patroons, we want

897
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,039
to thank Addie Ayshino, Cameron Ecker, Travis Laslie, Chris Bauer,

898
00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:27,320
Dayton Johnson, Chris and Jeanie, Alexander Alan Is Vaccinated, Yep,

899
00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:31,719
Dale Selby, Brad Moore, Christopher Walketon, and of course James Buckley,

900
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,000
our good friend and Patrion very first one.

901
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:38,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jonathan Tweety's the one fan that we've met in

902
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:39,960
person at this point. That was really cool. We've got

903
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:40,800
to go to dinner with him.

904
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,079
Speaker 5: Yeah.

905
00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. We also have some guys who routinely communicate with

906
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,400
us on Facebook who are always giving us some great

907
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:54,840
insight into episodes past and potentially future. We've got Scott Rothschild,

908
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,880
We've got Chris Weber who did the Shirley Showcase for us.

909
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:04,000
We've got Rocky Cham, Derek l Adam Winerub, We've got

910
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:06,840
Mo and Max from the Buzz and the Tower podcast.

911
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,199
Be sure and go check that out. We've got our

912
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,360
friends from the thirty something podcast. We've got John and.

913
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,119
Speaker 2: Pat and Bo and Jeff and yeah, all.

914
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: Of those guys. Merry Christmas, guys. We're sorry we're missing

915
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,199
out on doing a Christmas episode with you this year.

916
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,800
We will We will catch you in twenty twenty two. Maybe.

917
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 2: You know who else we really need to think this

918
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,360
year is our good buddy David Wright. He did four

919
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,480
episodes with us. Step Dave was our hip hop rap expert.

920
00:46:33,639 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: We got to just sit back and live in the

921
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,880
limelight as he waxed poetic on all of that rap history.

922
00:46:41,039 --> 00:46:44,480
And it was awesome, truly truly great time. Some other

923
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,159
Facebook guys who routinely communicate with us, Nick Hinsley.

924
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:53,159
Speaker 2: Jay Reed, Ryan Wore, Ainwater, Neil Rudnick. And then we

925
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,920
want to thank everybody who's taken.

926
00:46:54,679 --> 00:46:57,559
Speaker 1: The time to record our show showcase.

927
00:46:57,639 --> 00:47:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah we know that takes time kind of effort, Yeah yeah,

928
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,800
and we appreciate you guys contributing to our.

929
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 1: Show, right, We really do, guys, It's been another great

930
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,760
season in the books. I can't tell you how moved

931
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,159
I am that you continue to listen to us and

932
00:47:12,199 --> 00:47:15,519
we continue to grow. Thank you so much, and mere

933
00:47:15,679 --> 00:47:19,599
Christmas here, Christmas happiness there.

934
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Speaker 3: You do you, I'm bound to thank you for it.

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