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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to reality TV.

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Speaker 2: The world famous podcast.

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Speaker 1: I am one of your hosts, Delia, still killing it

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and mogging on the internet after all these years. Here

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with my real tight homegirl and my daughter in law Beatrice.

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Speaker 2: I looks maxing.

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Speaker 1: Look you are looks maxing. I just was thinking how

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my husband entered you into his phone as.

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Speaker 2: Canks cakes Kanks maxing for your cankles. Yeah, he said

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I had cankles.

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Speaker 1: You don't have cankles literally as you wear those. I

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think he just called you and then he said you

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were Kanks maxing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I called him in my phone mayor Popenmeyer and.

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Speaker 1: Then you're like, I'm almost thirty. And then he said

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you were Hags maxing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, rude ass.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, this is Beatrice, I'm Dulia, and we are here

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to recap the season finale of Welcome to plaith Filled.

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This would we've been on a journey with these plaths

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and we're here to talk about it. Yeah, but before

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we get into it, we do have to issue you

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a disclaimer. Leanen, honey, how'd your wife and you better

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hide those kids now?

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Speaker 2: Put them in the closet.

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Speaker 1: Rannie's got a switch. We're in a reverend podcast. Obviously

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we say stupid things. We're highly highly inappropriate to get

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over it. So if you're.

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Speaker 2: Visiting the same for you.

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Speaker 1: You might want to find yourself another dumpster. But if

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you're ready to put this to bed with the plaths

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and send them on their Mary Hitler youth way, then

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welcome to this dumpster.

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Speaker 2: And if you hate Zach Wise as much as we do,

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Speaker 1: Yes, and by the way, recently, our girl, Michelthi Padrone

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of Sister Wives went back on Cults to Consciousness and

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gave another riveting interview about her childhood as one of

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the Brown Kids, and a lot of dark shit has

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come out. Yeah, I dare say maybe this is the

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one interview that actually gets into the nitty gritty of

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what it was like to be at Brown. I'm loving

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it and we're gonna be covering it on Patreon. We're

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gonna be watching that together and commenting liberally and inappropriately,

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But what we do on Patreon is we watch the

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entire show. Yeah usually, I mean I usually edit a

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lot of it out that doesn't make any sense. But like,

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we watched the show, and if we were to upload

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that to YouTube, we would one hundred percent get dinged forright, yeah,

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even though it would be fair use, we just don't

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want that drama. So we have everything on Patreon and

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Speaker 2: Please you gotta hype your girls.

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Speaker 1: Right because every single thing you do allegedly helps us

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on the algorithm, and so thank you in.

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Speaker 2: Things.

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Speaker 1: So, before we get into our final recap of Welcome

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to Platform Season nine, Beatrice, I have to ask you

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whether you have any takeaways.

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Speaker 2: My takeaway is that I was right. I was right

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all along about Zach, I just want us put it

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out there.

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Speaker 1: You love being right.

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Speaker 2: I do love that's one thing you love. I do

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love it. As a Leo, I want to be right, okay.

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And I had said from the very beginning when we

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got introduced to Zach last season, I'm like, I don't

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like this dude. There's something about him that seems weird,

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seems this seems toxic. And here we are. Yeah, we

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got the proof. He sucks, he does balls. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Well, as a Leo, you liked it. What did you say?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: As a Taurus, I know I'm right. Yeah, okay, you

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cannot change my mind. I've been knowing about Sag. I

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don't like him either. My takeaway was that I'm having

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a globally a meta like an overall better impression of

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Kim this season than perhaps any season before. And of

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course I've never liked him and I've dragged him every season,

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but like, I really was able to see the mother

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that she was and the mother I hope she's trying

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to be, and it did awaken my cold dead heart

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a little bit.

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Speaker 2: A lot people are gonna hate you for that.

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Speaker 1: I'm still side eyeing her, don't get me wrong, and

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she's still with that racist and I'm judging that. But

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like I just a little bit of my heart came

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back to life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt for her too.

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Speaker 1: Finally, just a little bit. And I also I also

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hate Zach. Yeah, so that was that was great. So

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without further ado, let's get into our recap of Welcome

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to Plath. Billt CEA said nine episode twelve.

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Speaker 2: To season eight, episode twelve. Sorry from the horse of

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his mouth, I do that every That's okay, it's because

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we'recovering sister Wise.

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Speaker 1: Chill take it away.

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Speaker 2: Well, we resume this episode where we left off last

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week with the Plath family intervention, the ambush of Zach

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and Lydia, And this was honestly the bulk of the episode,

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where we have the family really blasting Zach for his

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judgmental attitude, his unwarranted, unwanted opinions and judgments of the

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family and criticisms of everybody. And we have Ethan starting

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it off by saying, you know, Zach, keep your opinions

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to yourself, Okay, bitch, Nobody wants to fucking hear them,

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nobody needs them, nobody asks for him. Just keep it

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to yourself. Yeah, And of course Zach takes this very personally,

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and you know, in the moment when he's with the family,

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he's kind of portraying himself as very stoic and like

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trying not to be emotional about it. But to the

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camera we.

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Speaker 3: See a lot of how he really feels emotional damage.

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He feels really but hurt about this confrontation with the family,

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And it's kind of funny to see, honestly, because in

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the moment's he's coming off very fake and like two.

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Speaker 2: Faced, like he's like, well, yeah, like I get it,

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I understand. You know, he's trying to defend himself a

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few times. So, like one of the biggest issues with

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the family is Zach being judgmental of Mariah while they

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were all in Montana and how they were playing these

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offensive card games that Zach and Lydia didn't approve of,

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and Mariah had liquor and alcohol in the presence of Amber,

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who is a minor and Zach.

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Speaker 1: Lives with Kim plav Yeah, and her drunk boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: She's a big old fucking drug She has alcohol.

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Speaker 1: Amber has seen it all things, and also.

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Speaker 2: Amber is old enough to know, like, I'm not gonna

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drink underage. It's not that big of a deal, but whatever,

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Zach and Lydia are very hard pressed about it, particularly Zach,

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and you know, we have Ethan and Isaac calling Zach

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out for this and saying like, well, we heard from

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Amber and Kaylin and Mariah that actually you made them

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quite uncomfortable and you were pressing them on this issue,

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and when you were driving to the airport, they felt

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trapped in the car with you because you made them

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feel so uncomfortable about this whole situation, and we don't

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appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so Zach in this moment is like, well,

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I don't understand. Like we talked about it. I apologized,

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I understand that I was wrong, and we resolved it.

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I don't think people actually felt that way. You know,

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they were actually pretty upset, And it sounded to me

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like it was a conversation in Montana that happened from

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Mariah's house all the way to the airport. Like he

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never let up. I don't even know that he actually apologized.

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Speaker 2: No, and Zach's saying in the moment to the family

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that he did apologize and that they did come to

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a resolution, but according to Amber and Mariah last week,

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they were saying that they just had to agree to

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disagree because Zach was constantly on the defense about it,

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and he still thought that he was right in exercising

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his opinions and being like, well, you shouldn't do that,

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and you should do this, and blah blah blah blah blah.

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And even Zach to the camera in this episode, like

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when he's talking to the family, he's trying to play

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it off like, well, I didn't think it was a

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big of a deal, and like I wasn't being that

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judgmental or rude, and I thought we worked everything out.

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But to the camera Zach does admit basically that he

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was having an issue with this and having an issue

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with Amber being present. He said something like Amber is

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a new believer or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And wants to get baptized.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he didn't think that this was good for her.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But the emphasis wasn't so much on Amber as

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it was on the fact that this is not something

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that Lydia and I would ever want to do, So

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why are you guys doing it? It makes us feel unwelcome,

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So he does mention Amber, but the bigger issue is

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that they're not actually catering to what Zach wants exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the underlying thing. And the family gets

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to that, you know, Like we start off talking about

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their opinions and their criticisms, but really it is Zach

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wants everybody to accommodate to him in Lydia's lifestyles. And

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he talks about it a little bit. He's like, well,

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you guys know that me and Lydia wouldn't do these

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things and wouldn't participate with these card games and wouldn't

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watch these TV shows or listen to this music, So

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like why do you do it? It's like, well, you

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can't expect everybody to cater to your lifestyle and to

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your belief system. Like that is so unfair, it's so ridiculous.

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Everybody can live their own life. And Kim d just

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tried to express this a little bit. She's like, we're

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all adults. We're a big family, we have a lot

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of personalities, and we're all adults. Like, we're all going

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to live our own lives.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I've got alcohol in my house that doesn't drink it.

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You have to drink it like we can all exist

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in our own way and respect each other, Like that's

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kind of what we want to do. I do want

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to say that I was happy to see that Ethan

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approached this conversation with a level head. He did not

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raise his voice, He wasn't threatening in his stance, which

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he has been known to do and like do some

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like rage, push ups and throw shit around, Like he

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wasn't doing any of that. He seemed super calm and

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like he did actually want to resolve it, if not

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to be closer to Zach, certainly for Lydia's benefit, like

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he wants to maintain that relationship with Lydia, and he

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acted accordingly. I really liked seeing that he too, actually,

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but I don't think that Lydia and Zach even picked

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up on that because in the moment they felt so attacked,

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and you could really see with Lydia she has no

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communication skills whatsoever. She was feeling so much. And season

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after season we've seen this with somebody like Ethan, like

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we see what he's feeling on his face, but he

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doesn't say anything. You can see the same thing happening

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with Lydia, like she knows what's happening. She knows why

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it's happening, but in the moment, when pressed, when somebody

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is actually asking her directly, like what are you feeling,

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she cannot communicate at all. And so maybe that's why

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Zack feels like he's got a step up and speak

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for her. Or maybe after one year she's been trained

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by Zack not just speak up and communicate and let

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him do all the talking. I can believe that too.

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Speaker 2: I could see that because I think Zach, like some

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of the other previous Plath partners, I think they look

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down on the Plath family and look down on these

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Plath kids and be like, oh, well, you don't know

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how to communicate your emotions effectively, so let me do

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it for you. I could see something like that with

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Zach and Lydia. I also think that Lydia is feeling

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a lot of emotions, like not so much just about

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feeling miss by her family or whatever, or feeling upset

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that her family doesn't accept her weird fucking husband. But

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I think she's also feeling like the effects of the divorce,

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the effects of her mom being with a drunk and

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being a drunk, the effects of Ethan making a fool

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out of himself on her wedding night, the day before

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her wedding, you know, ruining that special moment for her. Like,

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I think she's feeling way too much. And I'm not

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trying to like excuse Lydia's lack of communication here when

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I say this. I just think that she's feeling a lot,

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and that's why she's crying, and that's why she's.

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Speaker 1: Overham by most Definitely, I'm not blaming her, no, no, no,

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I just feel bad for her because, like this is

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an opportunity for her to actually express herself and how

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she feels, and she just utterly cannot do it.

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Speaker 2: And I think that there are valid like reasons for

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her to be angry at her family and like angry

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at Kim, you know. I think that there's valid reasons

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for her to be hurt by her family and to

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want to have space and to feel even misunderstood by

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her family. But I think that it's getting misconstrued into

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this like weird, like judgmental thing, and I think that

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Zach is taking that upon himself to misconstrue it, because

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I think he judges the fuck out of everybody in

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the family, and honestly, Lydia probably judges her family for

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it too. I think I said something like last week,

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I think Lydia can't really accept the fact that her

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family's all fucked up and everybody has made mistakes and

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everybody has completely changed their tune from the way she

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was raised and the way that she was like brought

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up to believe. And so I think that she probably

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has some deep seated resentment, which again all fair and valid,

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because her family really has done a complete one to

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eighty since even from season one when we met them

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and they were Hitler Youth Christian Nation, and now we

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have this like completely turned around. Everybody's divorced, people got tattoos,

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everybody's drinking, you know, like it's a mess. And so

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I think Lydia and Zach are judging the fuck out

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of everybody. But the problem is with Zach making these

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criticisms known and taking it upon himself as this freshly

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married person and in this family he's only been in

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it for a year to express these concerns to everybody

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in such a judgmental, condescending way, like that's the problem,

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and that's where everybody is like, Okay, dude, slow your

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role right and we have Zach saying stupid things like, well,

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but in order to hang out with the family, we

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have to do things that we don't want to do.

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And Ethan quips back and is like, well, but is

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that on the host or is that on the guest?

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Like maybe it's your own thing and you know the family.

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Isaac Barry is like, well, you don't have to participate

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in some of these things. You don't have to play

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the card games, you don't have to listen to this music, Like,

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it's not that big of a deal.

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Speaker 1: And Zach, your Lord and savior is Jesus. And Jesus

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did a lot of things with a lot of people

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that he didn't actually align with in terms of lifestyle.

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He shared meals and evenings and time with ladies of

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the night and with tax collectors and with people who

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were actually looked down upon in society and who were

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quote unquote sinners, like he did that all the time

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as a demonstration of how we should treat our fellow man.

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We should be companionable with them, whether we agree with

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him or not, whether they live like us or not.

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We should be able to love our neighbor as ourself

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bitch ass so like this. This also doesn't align with

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what you say you believe to be true, because Jesus

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wasn't like that at all. Like if he was invited

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and he went and he didn't sit there and judge

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everybody if they asked him a question, I'm sure he was,

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you know, he was a divine being or whatever, and

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so he spoke from that place of divinity. But like,

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I'm just like, this is not the way you go

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around trying to influence friends and family members, Zach exactly.

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Speaker 2: And it would be one thing if the family was

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doing these like really horrible, heinous things.

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Speaker 1: Orgie's in front of Amber.

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Speaker 2: No, seriously, Like if they were doing such toxic, horrible stuff,

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that would be one thing. But they're literally playing like

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card games and having some wine like it's and it was.

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Speaker 1: Like one game out of apparently many games according to Isaac,

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and he's like, you don't have to play it. I

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didn't really like the game either, But it's like not

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the end of the world.

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Speaker 2: It really isn't. And so that's why it's so ridiculous

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to have Zach say something like, well, but this makes

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us feel unwelcome, Like, dude, the real world, like people

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aren't supposed to or expected to cater to you. Like,

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that's just not how real life works, especially when you're

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an adult, and when you're married to somebody, you can

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choose not to participate with family members if they're making

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you uncomfortable, Like, that's fine, that's your right to set

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that boundary, but to like put it on them, well.

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Speaker 1: And to make that equal being unwelcome exactly, Like, because

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I live my life a certain way, that means I'm

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not welcoming to you. That's crazy, that doesn't that doesn't

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make any sense.

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Speaker 2: That's warped. Yeah, And then to the camera, Zach says

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something like the family claims to be following God, but

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they're making bad decisions. And this is where we have

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the producer asking a follow up question like, well, do

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you mean, like the card games? Is that the bad

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decisions you're referencing, And Zach cuts off the professor, the

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professor the producer and says, no, no, no, let me finish.

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So this is the first comment that we have from

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Zach on air, which is pretty crazy of.

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Speaker 1: Him being kind of rude, controlling and control, controlling the narrative,

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controlling who speaks and when.

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Speaker 2: Yep. And then this is where Zach follows up and says, well,

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when they do things that make me and Lydia cringe,

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we want to talk about it, so we should have

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the right to talk about it. And I'm like, okay, dude,

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mmmm all right.

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Speaker 1: Hypocrisy.

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Speaker 2: He's just constantly coming up with things to try and.

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Speaker 1: Justice moving to gold posts eat all the time. It

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comes down to just slower role, don't overstep. Just try

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to be like, what is it congenial? Just a nice

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person and a family so that they can get to

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know you. Because Ethan is like I would like to

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have a connection with you. I really like to get

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to know you, but like I can't do that if

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you keep overstepping and judging my family, that's just never

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gonna happen. So stop doing that for real. It's simple.

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Speaker 2: It's it's as simple as that, Like just know your place, dude.

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And again, like I've been saying, like, give you one thing.

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If you've been in this family and you've been established

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for many, many years and you have a relationship with

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all these people, but your brand new dude, new eight,

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chill out, yes, gosh. And then this is where he

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also oversteps when he talks about Amber because he brings

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up like, well, I just don't think that it's appropriate

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for Amber to be around this kind of stuff, and

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it worries me. And this is where Barry. We hear

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from him a little bit the passive boot Bob robot

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passive or enlightened, I don't know. He says something like,

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you know, he trusts Amber and if she's gonna make mistakes,

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she should be allowed to and then we can talk

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about it later, and like maybe Zach's overstepping here, And

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we hear from Kim as well, saying like, you know,

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I'm glad that Lydia and Zach are concerned about Amber.

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I get it. I understand that they care about her.

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But ultimately Kim and Barry are the parents and we'll

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deal with that ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you're concerned about something that's happening in

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ambers orbit, don't talk to Amber, don't talk to anybody else.

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Talk to me, yep, because I'm Amber's mom.

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Speaker 2: Period. And then we have Barry saying, you know, if

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somebody doesn't ask for your.

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Speaker 3: Opinion, don't give it.

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Speaker 2: Just shut up, essentially, And we have a bunch of

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people in the family saying that, and they're saying it

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a lot nicer than how I'm paraphrasing. They're being like,

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you know, just don't give your opinion, how unsolicited. We'll

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ask if we want your advice, if we want your input,

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we'll ask. But you don't need to be making these criticisms.

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And again, like it's one thing to make like a

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general observation or to share an opinion a little bit,

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but like the way that Zach is going about it

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is he is basically trying to tell people what to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, from a place of moral authority.

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Speaker 2: Yeap. And then we hear from Lydia and Zach to

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the camera like Lydia cries about it and Zack tears up,

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and Lydia's like, well, I just wish that they would

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understand where Zach is coming from because he may not

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get everything right, but he's got a perfect heart.

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Speaker 1: He's got perfect intentions, does he?

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Speaker 2: And this is what I hate about them and I

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hate about Zach is that they are trying to twist

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this in a way where he is only coming from

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good intentions.

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Speaker 1: And what's the saying, like intention versus impact, So you

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can have the right intention and your heart can be

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perfect like the sacred heart of Jesus, right, But that

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doesn't negate the impact of what it is that you're

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doing and how that affects other people.

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Speaker 2: That so it really doesn't matter if you have good intentions.

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This isn't appropriate.

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Speaker 1: The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

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Speaker 2: Facts. And I actually found a comment on Instagram that

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I wanted to read out because I thought it was

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really poignant. It was underneath the TLC's post of the

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season finale clip and it came from user Martita eight

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nine three four, and she says, many married couples, including

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my husband and I, have formed opinions about each other's families.

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We understand the importance of tact and discretion when it

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comes to sharing our thoughts. My husband would never voice

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his opinions about my family directly to them, and I

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would do the same regarding his family. And I think

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that's the issue here with Zach. It's like, dude, you

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guys can talk about this like you can have your

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own judgments and criticism of the family.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. Yay's normal.

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Speaker 2: That's totally normal, especially in the confines of a marriage.

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We get it. But you don't need to be coming

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out here hot and making these criticisms and judgments publicly

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to the family, to members of the family, and then

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on podcasts, you know, or to the camera on a

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TLC interview. I think that's the issue here that everybody

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is having. And like Mariah said last week, it'd be

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one thing if it was coming from Lydia, but at ain't.

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It's coming from Zach. And so then we get into

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a conversation about Tegan a little bit. We have Ethan.

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I think, no, it's Lydia asking Ethan if he knew

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that Zach had heard things about Teagan and that that

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was why he came up to him. When when Ethan

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was working on his plymouth.

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Speaker 1: She said it even harder than that. She's like, Ethan,

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I don't know if you know, but like a lot

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of people were saying things to Zach about Teagan, you know,

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he wanted to approach you directly, which and I texted

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Beatrice this, I'm like, that's a little bit mean girl

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to me, because Teagan is sitting right there, and what

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you are admitting is that the whole family has been

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gossiping about her so much so that Zach has heard

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about it, which is why he sought fit to say

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something to Ethan. So that's gonna make Teagan feel really

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bad sitting there with this family in that moment. I'm like, Lydia,

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So are you trying to deflect by calling out the

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behavior of everybody else because your behavior is being called

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out in this moment? Yeah, are you trying to make

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Teagan feel bad?

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Speaker 2: I think so and othered and I think she is

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trying to again spin this as like, well, but Zach

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had good intentions because he heard all these things, these

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horrible things, allegedly.

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Speaker 1: That he didn't want to participate, although he did, he

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did in the moment participated, and that's why he went

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to talk to you Ethan.

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Speaker 2: And Ethan's like, yeah, no, I appreciate your concerns, but again,

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keep that shit to yourself, keep your opinions to yourself.

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And then we hear from Zach and Ethan to the camera.

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You know, Zach says something like, well, I I never

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gave my opinion though.

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Speaker 1: I was just.

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Speaker 2: Sharing what I had heard and expressing some concerns, but

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00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:28,640
I didn't give my opinion.

475
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: People had been saying that Teagan was terrible, that's what

476
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:33,759
he said to me camera.

477
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 2: Terrible, and that she had done so many terrible things

478
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:42,119
to Ethan, and so he wanted to understand why Ethan

479
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,559
chose to continue to be with her, to continue to

480
00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:46,279
talk to her.

481
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,519
Speaker 1: But like, dude, again, you're also saying this on camera

482
00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:53,079
though you're gonna you know that Teagan is gonna see that.

483
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,680
You know that it's gonna go out on the airwaves.

484
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,960
Like that's also kind of cruel when you think about it.

485
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,640
Tigan has never done anything to Zach, doesn't know you,

486
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,559
but every single time that she's been around you, You've

487
00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:05,319
admitted it yourself. She's been nothing but pleasant to you. Yeah,

488
00:25:05,319 --> 00:25:08,319
and you're okay to say this like on camera, like ooh.

489
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: And we hear from Ethan on camera saying that that

490
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,759
day when he was working on the Plymouth, Zach actually

491
00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:16,119
took him aside, and I think he was like implying

492
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,240
that this was off camera, that Zach had some concerns

493
00:25:20,599 --> 00:25:23,799
about Ethan and Tegan's relationship, and one of those concerns

494
00:25:24,519 --> 00:25:28,079
was Teagan's daughter. And Ethan says, you know, Teagan's daughter

495
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,960
is the best thing that ever happened to her, Like

496
00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:32,400
she's not an issue, and so to even bring her

497
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,000
to this conversation is really fucked up and lame. And

498
00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:38,880
obviously I'm paraphrasing, but Ethan's like, you know, Zach's just

499
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,039
being extremely judgmental, and I'm thinking that Zach was judging

500
00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:44,920
the fact that she had a kid out of wedlock

501
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,240
and that this is ungodly or whatever, and Ethan shouldn't

502
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,200
be with a woman who's got a child out a wedlock.

503
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,759
Speaker 1: And I'm like, fuck, yeah, took you all the way

504
00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:55,119
and fuck you forever.

505
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,599
Speaker 2: Fuck you forever, like that's not Christian of you whatsoever.

506
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,880
I'm a kid that was born weren't out of wedlock.

507
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,000
My mom married my dad when I was two, and

508
00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:06,960
my dad took me in and has always treated me

509
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,880
like his own daughter. I will always love him for that.

510
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,000
But I remember, like there were some members of the family,

511
00:26:12,039 --> 00:26:14,000
there were some members of our church that kind of

512
00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:15,880
looked at us a little bit differently and looked at

513
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,480
me differently because I was a kid that was out

514
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,799
of wedlock. And obviously now I'm an adult and I

515
00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:23,400
look at those people, I'm like, fuck you, right, like whatever,

516
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,319
But it's heartbreaking for but it's so lame and it's

517
00:26:26,319 --> 00:26:29,240
so disgusting. It's such disgusting behavior, because I look at

518
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,160
what my dad did as super godly like him just

519
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,559
taking in a kid that wasn't his and treating me

520
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,240
like I was his. And he still to this day

521
00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:40,480
treats me like I'm his daughter.

522
00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: Whatever. Furthermore, let's look at Joseph, the father of Jesus,

523
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,480
that the foster father of Jesus. Mary gets knocked up

524
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:54,359
by God and everything, it's an immaculate conception, but Joseph

525
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:59,079
loves her anyway. Joseph takes her in, protects her, raises

526
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,160
Jesus as his own son, teaches Jesus his traits, that

527
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,039
Jesus could become a carpenter just like him. Like that

528
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,559
was the example of Saint Joseph. And here you are,

529
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:15,039
Zach out here essentially putting down what the father of

530
00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:17,599
the Christ did, right because Teagan has a child and

531
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,319
Ethan is trying to help or wants to be with Teagan,

532
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,799
wants to support the kid, Like that's gross anti Christ.

533
00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:28,400
It's so gross, it's Antichrist totally.

534
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: And we actually got a comment, I think, on Patreon

535
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,880
because we had heard from somebody in the family last

536
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,839
week about how Zach thought Teagan was.

537
00:27:40,039 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: Financial like taking financial.

538
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 2: Advantage of Ethan, okay, and we had asked, like what

539
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,440
that was about, if anybody had any theories. Somebody commented

540
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,160
saying that Ethan paid for like a transmission repair or

541
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,039
something on Teagan's car, And obviously that's not cheap. But

542
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,400
Teagan had been doing the majority of the driving right

543
00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:05,279
when he was living in Minnesota and she was living

544
00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:08,799
in Wisconsin, and so of course he's gonna pay for

545
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,640
her transmission repair because she's a single mom and needs

546
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,880
a car, and he's a car guy, so he's probably like, yeah,

547
00:28:16,079 --> 00:28:18,039
I'll take care of it, or I'll pay for the parts,

548
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,680
or I know a guy who can fix it for you. Like,

549
00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:24,119
and if that's what Zach is referencing, as you know,

550
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:29,079
Teagan taking advantage of Ethan financially, Like, dude, fuck you

551
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,400
fuck out of here. Yes, you're so judgmental. Keep your

552
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,240
opinions to yourself.

553
00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: You are literally the reason people don't become Christian for

554
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,079
real though, you're really an anti testimony to Christianity, and

555
00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:42,920
like you should really look at yourself if you were

556
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,519
interested in spreading the Gospel, which is like what Christians

557
00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:49,160
are supposed to do, Like you're doing it all wrong.

558
00:28:49,599 --> 00:28:53,119
By being such a judgmental piece of crap.

559
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: And like nobody cares that you had good intentions, because again,

560
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,640
it's the delivery, it's the impact of those quote unquote intentions,

561
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,720
and it's the inherent judgment that you have over everybody

562
00:29:04,079 --> 00:29:08,759
around you, like, shut up, you're not saintly to their kid. Jeez.

563
00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:12,319
And so then we have Zach, of course, crying to

564
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,119
the camera about what do we have to do. I

565
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,119
just want to be your brother.

566
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,599
Speaker 1: Do I have to wrestle with them? Because I would

567
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,160
really love to wrestle with them.

568
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: I would really love to feel their boss.

569
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,279
Speaker 1: That would actually be awesome to feel that I have

570
00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:28,200
to do, Like, I will totally do that though.

571
00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: I will gladly wrestle these these cowboys. Please. Yeah, So

572
00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:35,640
I just don't feel bad for you. Like we had

573
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,480
saw this preview at the beginning of the season, I

574
00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:41,480
was thinking like, oh, okay, maybe the Plath Boys have

575
00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:42,240
done some more.

576
00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:45,359
Speaker 1: Fun shit because targetting another significant other.

577
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,839
Speaker 2: Right, because last season was terrible. You know, the Plath

578
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,359
Boys definitely acted a fool. They were assholes, they were mean,

579
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,279
they were bullying. But this year we're getting some more

580
00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:57,880
context and we're seeing that Zach's a piece of shit,

581
00:29:58,079 --> 00:29:59,880
so I really just don't feel bad for him on

582
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:03,839
and then we have him moving the gold posts yet again,

583
00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:07,160
where he brings up something like, well, it feels like

584
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,279
we're pulling teeth having to have you guys come and

585
00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:13,119
visit us, like we never see you. You never come

586
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,839
and visit. We're only forty five minutes away, and we

587
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,000
feel like we're making all this effort and you guys

588
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,200
don't come over, like okay, So again we're making this

589
00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:24,079
another issue where you guys are the victim. And we

590
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:29,000
have Kim and Isaac both saying like, no, we come

591
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:31,640
over whenever we have free time, and Kim says like

592
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,960
I brought you cheese cake for your birthday, and I

593
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:36,599
came over to fix your car or whatever, and I

594
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,920
came over to help Lydia with such and such, like

595
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,960
I come over all the time. Don't put that on us,

596
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,079
like we're not coming over and making you feel welcome,

597
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,119
And Zach, I think, says to the camera like Lydia

598
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,519
just doesn't feel seen, and you know, she just feels

599
00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:56,279
like abandoned and isolated from her family, and so I'm

600
00:30:56,319 --> 00:30:57,559
trying to defend her, like.

601
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,319
Speaker 1: No, you're not. You're trying to make her believe that

602
00:31:01,599 --> 00:31:04,000
so she feels isolated from her family, so that you

603
00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:08,039
can squirrel her away to Colorado several months later where

604
00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:10,440
she's not gonna have access to her family. A family

605
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,880
which I actually, I really think they love Lydia.

606
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,279
Speaker 2: I think they love each other in general. They do,

607
00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:20,880
even though they are dysfunctional. Every single family has dysfunction,

608
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,160
by the way, Like, no family is fucking perfect. I'm

609
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,880
sure that there's like a few here and there that

610
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,880
have really balanced, healthy families and stuff, But for the

611
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,839
most part, every family's got some kind of tension, some

612
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,480
kind of dysfunction. So the Plaths aren't perfect, okay, yes,

613
00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:40,680
but they love each other, So I believe that. I

614
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,359
believe that too.

615
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Kim is fundamentally broken, yes, and

616
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:46,559
she doesn't know how to show love. But I think

617
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,960
deep down in there she does love them. And I

618
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:53,400
think Barry is probably neurodivergent and doesn't necessarily know how

619
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,880
to express himself like you know, ninety nine percent of

620
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,759
the rest of the population does or whatever, But like

621
00:31:57,799 --> 00:31:59,720
that doesn't mean he doesn't love his kids. I think

622
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,799
he does love his kids, and when He's talking about

623
00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:04,359
Amber being able to make her own mistakes and like,

624
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,079
when she does, I'm gonna be here for her. I

625
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,519
believe that. I think he loves his children. These are actually,

626
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:15,000
deep down these parents love their kids and support their kids.

627
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:16,880
I mean, they didn't do everything right, and I'm not

628
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,039
going to go off on a dungein, but like, fuck you, Zach,

629
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:22,279
you don't know Dick, And he actually says something like that, like, well,

630
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,279
I really wasn't around for what happened with Joshua was

631
00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:29,599
I was not around for what this family has been through.

632
00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:31,559
He wanted to comment, though he did, and I think

633
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:33,160
when he said that he was coming.

634
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: For Kim and wanted to criticize her.

635
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: He was trying to criticize Kim and what kind of

636
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:39,599
parents she was and he was gonna say something more

637
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,839
and he's like, let me just stop. I wasn't there, Okay,

638
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:44,079
then you shouldn't have said anything.

639
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: Then you shouldn't have said she it And again, like

640
00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:50,319
I go back to that comment, like it's fine to

641
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,839
make your own assessments of the family and how they

642
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,400
handle things or whatever is a spouse, Like that's normal

643
00:32:55,519 --> 00:33:00,640
and fine, but you fucked up when you made it known, basically,

644
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,160
and you felt the need to say these things to

645
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,039
everybody else, like you're some You're on some pedestal. I

646
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:10,440
think that they think they're above the rest of the

647
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,839
family too, indeed, And I'm sure because they got married

648
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,920
and they were both virgins and you know they're godly

649
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,279
and everybody else is divorced and drinking and partying.

650
00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:22,759
Speaker 1: Talk to me in ten to fifteen years, Lydia.

651
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: No for real or five? And I'm like, how long

652
00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:27,000
is this marriage even going to last?

653
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: What is he doing with his life? He hasn't been

654
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:31,519
to university. He doesn't have a degree. Now that everybody does.

655
00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:33,079
I don't have a degree or whatever, but like I'm

656
00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:35,279
married very well, but anyway, but like, what does he

657
00:33:35,359 --> 00:33:37,279
do with his life? How is he supporting? Lydia? Lydia,

658
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:39,599
what are you doing? I know you went back to Colorado,

659
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,160
but are you going to be a barista? What are

660
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,799
your plans? Is it just to love Jesus forever? Like

661
00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:46,559
to live with your parents? What's your family?

662
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:46,759
Speaker 3: Like?

663
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: I would love to get a glimpse into Zach's nuclear

664
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,160
family and those weirdos in fucking Colorado because they can

665
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,319
guarantee you they're probably wealthy, they're probably elitist, and they're

666
00:33:56,359 --> 00:33:59,480
probably evangelical Christians, and I would probably hate them. But

667
00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:00,960
maybe I'm maybe I'm judging.

668
00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:03,359
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe, but they I feel like they're

669
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,680
probably just as judgmental.

670
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: If Zach is a byproduct, then yeah, there's something wrong

671
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,800
in that family. And if we had a camera on

672
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,039
the family the entire time, we'd learn a lot there too.

673
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:15,480
And we judge you, Zach, how would that feel when

674
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,519
we're judging your mama and your daddy and your siblings?

675
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:20,800
Because I would love to do it.

676
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: But we have good intentions though, Yeah, sorry about the impact.

677
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,840
Yeah we have perfect hearts.

678
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially us, Yes, for sure.

679
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: Sorry if you don't understand. Oh, and so then we

680
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:35,280
have Lydia saying at the end of this that she

681
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,480
doesn't know how to include themselves in the family, which

682
00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:42,599
doesn't really make sense, and Kim pipes up and is like, well,

683
00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:45,119
how would you like for us to include you? How

684
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:47,719
would you like for us to make you feel welcomed

685
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,199
in the family, And even Ethan echoes this, and Isaac

686
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,119
goes this, and Zach's like, well, we're bonfires would be great.

687
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:58,239
More time at the farm more little activities or whatever.

688
00:34:59,159 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: I just have the impression that nobody's keeping them from

689
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,280
the farm from activities. And furthermore, Kim asked Lydia that question,

690
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,719
and Zach, you're answering for her, like what do you

691
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,960
need from your mom, Lydia, Like what would you like

692
00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:14,840
to do in terms of experiences with your mom and

693
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,760
the rest of your family, Like what do you need?

694
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,400
Because it's Lydia that is the injured party here, and

695
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,840
she has every right, yeah, by the way, to feel injured,

696
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,159
because I think she was injured, she was parentified. We

697
00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:26,000
won't go into all of the things, but like they

698
00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:30,119
took advantage badly of Lydia, and she has every right

699
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:33,079
to have a grievance against her family and against her parents,

700
00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:35,480
and so like that's a question for Lydia exactly, it

701
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:37,840
is not a question for Zach.

702
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: And I think that's the issue is that Lydia doesn't

703
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,199
really know at this point in time, like what she needs,

704
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,360
what she wants from her family. And I totally get that,

705
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:49,119
Like she's at this age where she's like going out

706
00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:52,159
into her own and she's coming into adulthood. Her frontal

707
00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:55,719
lobe is developing and she's reflecting back on her childhood

708
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,559
and reflecting back on her parents, and reflecting back on

709
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,320
the complete breakdown of her family, and it's probably bringing

710
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,119
up so much for her that she doesn't really know

711
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,639
how to deal with and know how to articulate. But

712
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:14,239
go to fucking therapy. Stop like unloading all of these

713
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,960
things under your husband and then making him. It seems

714
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,239
like she's making him do a lot of the dirty work,

715
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,559
or maybe he feels like he should do the communication

716
00:36:23,679 --> 00:36:27,119
and talking for Lydia because he doesn't think that she's capable.

717
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: If Yeah, and that's where it's hard, because he's defending her,

718
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,719
but about what you know, like she doesn't know what.

719
00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 2: She needs or what she wants from the family. So yeah,

720
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,199
we end the intervention with the majority of the family

721
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,679
feeling like it was a productive conversation and that they

722
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,559
made some ground, and Zach and Lydia to the family

723
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,480
are giving this like, well, yeah, thanks for talking to

724
00:36:57,599 --> 00:36:58,360
us about.

725
00:36:58,039 --> 00:37:02,639
Speaker 1: This, totally respect her, I'm going to respect your wishes.

726
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,039
Thanks for the convo.

727
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: Good doc. But to the camera, they're crying to the

728
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,000
viewers about how they feel misunderstood and how the family

729
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:12,840
just doesn't get them and doesn't understand that they had

730
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,679
good intentions and that they just have to shut up.

731
00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:19,519
I guess I guess this means that we're just not

732
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:22,480
gonna say anything, and that me, Zach, I don't have

733
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:24,079
a voice in this family.

734
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: It's such a victim shut up, like, oh.

735
00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:30,079
Speaker 2: Give me a break. And so then we break off

736
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,320
into these little chats with the rest of the family

737
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,320
while we start getting things ready for Zach Lydia's surprise

738
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,760
annivers anniversary party. We have Zach talking to Barry a

739
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,519
little bit, and you know Barry again, he's just kind

740
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:49,039
of weird dude, like the way that he expresses himself

741
00:37:49,079 --> 00:37:52,000
and talks about things like he's just an oddball. This

742
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:54,760
is where he's like, yeah, now, you know, not to

743
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,320
export your opinions into lens that don't want to import

744
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,639
yuh yukiyah. Yeah, I just can't. He doesn't seem like

745
00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:05,280
he's the kind of person that can have like a

746
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,760
serious conversation where you're not making everything into a joke.

747
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,480
And Zach's like, yeah, I'm glad that they brought up

748
00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:18,119
their concerns and that he acknowledges that he can sometimes overstep.

749
00:38:18,639 --> 00:38:20,880
He says this to Barry, but then to the camera

750
00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:23,880
he's like, no, it was all valid. Yeah, it's coming

751
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:24,599
from a good place.

752
00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: Well, and I don't know if I'm skipping ahead, but like,

753
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,639
at some point, doesn't Zach say something like, well, the

754
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,000
stuff with Teaken and what I knew about her and

755
00:38:34,039 --> 00:38:37,719
everything I heard, Like, I'm I can't apologize for speaking

756
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:38,280
up about that.

757
00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't own the fact or I can't own

758
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:43,719
being wrong to that. Yeah, it is what he says.

759
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: He's not sorry. No, he doesn't respect anything anybody's saying.

760
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,559
In fact, he's he's incurred and narcissistic injury totally, like

761
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:56,119
he's completely bowled over by the fact that he's getting

762
00:38:56,159 --> 00:38:58,000
this criticism. He cannot believe it.

763
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,199
Speaker 2: It's really messed up. And I wonder what the family

764
00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:02,840
feels like watching this back, yes and seeing what they

765
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,000
said privately, Yeah, I would be because this is so stupid.

766
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,599
And we have Ethan kind of talking with Teagan and

767
00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:13,599
also talking to the camera. He feels bad for Lydia

768
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:16,519
and feels bad about the situation, but feels like it

769
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,440
needed to be said. Sure, it needed to be addressed.

770
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,119
He says to the camera that he is trying to

771
00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:25,599
be empathetic, and he also reflects on his relationship a

772
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:29,199
little bit with Teagan about how he probably shouldn't have

773
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:34,000
jumped into a serious relationship right after getting divorced, or

774
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:37,559
leaving Lydia, or leaving Olivia. And I think that that's

775
00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:41,000
actually an interesting point of self reflection for him. It's

776
00:39:41,159 --> 00:39:45,440
honestly encouraging to me that maybe therapy is working for him.

777
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,360
And I hope he continues with that.

778
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:49,599
Speaker 1: He needs it so badly, he.

779
00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: Really really needs it, and he's right, he shouldn't have

780
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,840
jumped into a serious relationship after Olivia. He should have

781
00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:58,760
spent a little time alone dealing with that.

782
00:39:58,920 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: Agreed.

783
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:02,679
Speaker 2: Then we have Zach talking with Kim while she checks

784
00:40:02,679 --> 00:40:04,639
the mail on the couch and.

785
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 1: Before such a weird conversation, Beatrice like why.

786
00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: This was bazarre. So they're talking about how the family

787
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,320
is going to sit down and talk about Joshua. This

788
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,840
is going to be a private, little discussion and it's

789
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,159
mainly for Lydia, and like Kim knows that, she kind

790
00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:28,519
of acknowledges that, and Zach says, yeah, I think it's

791
00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:31,159
really awesome that you're going to talk about the death

792
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,880
of your child. I think it's really great, and you know,

793
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,920
Lydia is like fucking pumped. Lydia is so excited for it.

794
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:45,239
Let's go, let's go, let's talk about her. It's so bizarre.

795
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,039
And so he's saying this to Kim, and Kim to

796
00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:50,960
the camera's like, yeah, I don't know if excited is

797
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,119
the word that I would use for that. It's like,

798
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:56,239
but whatever, it's fine. You know, I know that Lydia

799
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,760
needs this. And Kim tells Zach that, you know, I'm

800
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,039
always going to be a parent that lost a child

801
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,760
like I don't. There's no amount of therapy, there's no

802
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,440
amount of crying, there's no amount of praying yep, that

803
00:41:08,519 --> 00:41:11,199
will get rid of that. I'm just going to have

804
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,920
to accept the fact that I will always carry this

805
00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:16,599
and I will always live with this. And Zach's like, yeah,

806
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:20,000
that's great, that's awesome. Oh god, And I hate that

807
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:22,480
he says that it's such a church bro. Totally.

808
00:41:22,519 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: He's such a church bro dude.

809
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: I hate It's cringe.

810
00:41:26,199 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: He does not know how to meet people where they are.

811
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,239
And granted he's very young, sure heyes.

812
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 2: I go, he's like twenty four, he's.

813
00:41:33,159 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: Not developed or anything, but like don't pretend to be

814
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,559
then take on the role of like the kid in

815
00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:41,159
the situation, Like you don't have to be there as

816
00:41:41,159 --> 00:41:44,400
some sort of counselor for Kim. She's fifty something years old,

817
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,719
she's lost a fucking child. Yeah, just shut up a

818
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,840
little bit, just say hey, I'm here for you, like,

819
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:52,320
really appreciate that this is happening. I know it means

820
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,679
a lot for Lydia, and I'm really just so happy

821
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,079
to be here.

822
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: Get shut up, just shut up, Just be like, thank

823
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,440
you for talking to her about it, because it means

824
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,360
a lot all I has to do. He doesn't know

825
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,480
how to be like an observer, Like he doesn't know

826
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,320
how to just sit back and just watch the family

827
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,360
and like you had said, let people meet people where

828
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,519
they're at. He just always feels the need to be like, no,

829
00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:17,199
but I'm I'm Godly.

830
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm approving of your actions here today as it concern

831
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:24,639
is talking about your dead child. God good morus love

832
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:25,440
that for you.

833
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 2: And then we hear from Lydia in her talking head

834
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,480
saying something like, you know, I've given up on trying

835
00:42:31,559 --> 00:42:34,599
to make all of these relationships work. So whether or not,

836
00:42:34,639 --> 00:42:37,000
my mom and Zach get along like that's up to them.

837
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:38,079
I've just given up.

838
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: Good, drop the rope. It's not your responsibility anyway.

839
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 2: Nope.

840
00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:43,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, and don't need that anxiety.

841
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: You're harming yourself more than anything by trying or feeling

842
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,519
the need to manage it. And I think that comes

843
00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:54,440
from her parentified upbringing of like feeling like she's got

844
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,440
to manage the family and manage the emotions of everybody.

845
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,519
I get it, girl, go to therapy though. For real,

846
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:03,159
you're the eldest daughters, so you get that.

847
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:03,679
Speaker 3: Yep.

848
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: It's a it's a hard road, but you got to

849
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,360
learn to drop the rope and stop people pleasing because

850
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,079
it's not your job. And then Zach to the camera

851
00:43:11,199 --> 00:43:14,119
says he doesn't understand Kim at all, doesn't know how

852
00:43:14,119 --> 00:43:16,079
she operates, doesn't get.

853
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,519
Speaker 1: It in the context of the conversation that they're having

854
00:43:18,599 --> 00:43:22,320
about Joshua. Yeah, So as a viewer, I'm left to

855
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:24,800
deduce that you are being critical of Kim in this

856
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,599
moment about how she's expressing herself as it concerns her

857
00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:32,800
deceased child. You absolute piece of crap, And I.

858
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,639
Speaker 2: Just don't get that, Like, how can you claim that

859
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,840
you have good intentions, but then you're gonna say, I

860
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,880
just don't understand how she operates, and like, I get it.

861
00:43:42,199 --> 00:43:46,000
You know, Kim is coming off kind of disconnected.

862
00:43:46,159 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: That's Kim though, but that's disassociated. And she lost her

863
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:51,199
child because she ran over her own child.

864
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,679
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. She's got fucking peety.

865
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: She's doing the very best that she can, trying to

866
00:43:55,679 --> 00:43:58,320
have a moment with her family and be available like

867
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,599
in a way that she doesn't she's not equipped to

868
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:03,199
do it. She's knowing the best, I believe the best

869
00:44:03,199 --> 00:44:04,880
that she can in this moment, and we don't need

870
00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:07,719
u ZAC to sit in judgment is some sort of

871
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:12,079
arbiter of what's good enough regarding the death of her child, Like,

872
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:13,440
get the fuck out of here.

873
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: He's totally acting like an immature, like teenager, like thinking

874
00:44:17,519 --> 00:44:20,840
like I know everything, I've got it all figured out. Like, dude,

875
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,880
you don't got anything figured.

876
00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 1: Out, nor a job. You don't got a job either.

877
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: Facts, you're not an adult.

878
00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: No, Like you're living off of the largest of your wife,

879
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,920
the one that you constantly need to interrupt or put

880
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,840
in her place. She's the one who's got the paycheck

881
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,239
because she's on TLC in this show, in this family

882
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,599
that you're here to criticize she's the one who's subsidizing

883
00:44:39,639 --> 00:44:40,920
your whole life, exactly.

884
00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: And then Kim wonders to the camera like, I wonder

885
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:48,679
what Zach even needs to feel accepted. I hope that

886
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,719
I can provide for that for him eventually, but I

887
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,960
don't even know what he needs to feel like he's

888
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,239
a part of the family because we're trying. We're trying

889
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,159
to make him feel welcome.

890
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: He needs to be the patriarch, exactly, and you're not

891
00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,239
gonna be.

892
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:02,119
Speaker 2: You've got the older Plath boys that are older than you.

893
00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:04,159
Speaker 1: They don't kick your ass.

894
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: You move to Colorado, and that's exactly what he does.

895
00:45:08,119 --> 00:45:12,239
And Zach says, Lydia has tried very hard for many

896
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,800
years to feel seen by Kim, and this is where

897
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,519
you had said, uh that he tried to criticize her

898
00:45:19,559 --> 00:45:21,360
a little bit. But then says like, oh, no, I'll

899
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,360
just shut up because I wasn't there. I don't know

900
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,719
the whole situation. I'm just coming here to defend my wife.

901
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,199
And this is the only point in the whole episode

902
00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:35,239
where Zach says something like actually, good, reasonable, reasonable, that's

903
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,400
your role, that should be your only role is to

904
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,639
defend your wife and just let her handle it. And

905
00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:43,760
you weren't there, dude, you don't know, so shut up.

906
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,960
You only know Lydia's perspective. And again, like her feelings

907
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,679
and stuff are valid and whatever, but like you don't

908
00:45:49,679 --> 00:45:53,480
need to judge or base your whole like perception of

909
00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:56,400
the family based off of one perspective. Like, shut up.

910
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,159
So then we have Barry and the kids and Kim

911
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,679
h sitting down to talk about Joshua a little bit.

912
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:07,159
And I thought that this overall like was kind of sweet, Yes,

913
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,480
And I think that Kim was doing her best in

914
00:46:09,519 --> 00:46:10,079
this moment.

915
00:46:10,199 --> 00:46:11,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, they all were.

916
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,639
Speaker 2: Her ability, Like, she's not perfect. Again, she's kind of

917
00:46:15,679 --> 00:46:18,480
a disconnected person, but she was really doing her best

918
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,719
to just kind of show up for the family.

919
00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: And she also went into it willing to go over

920
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,119
the play by play yep, like the exact thing that

921
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,679
happened according to everybody who was there and even herself.

922
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:35,880
This is something that I think gives her PTSD. Yes,

923
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,320
that she does not want to talk about and doesn't

924
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,159
have the words for, but she's showing up to do

925
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,519
exactly that. If the kids need it. Thankfully, none of

926
00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:46,800
the kids wanted to talk about that or brought it up,

927
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,159
so she didn't have to do that. But the fact

928
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:51,599
that she's willing to do that, we have to credit

929
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:54,360
Kim for that. I don't think it was just for

930
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,199
the cameras. I think she was wanting to bring the

931
00:46:57,199 --> 00:46:59,880
family together in this moment in a very earnest way.

932
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she says, like all of this was brought

933
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,719
on by Lydia talking about it publicly, and obviously that

934
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,239
wasn't the best way to go about things. I agree,

935
00:47:08,559 --> 00:47:11,320
but that's what Kim said. She said, obviously this isn't

936
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,719
the best way to go about things, but I'm glad

937
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,519
that we can at least talk about it. And I

938
00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:18,639
think it's good that Lydia was the one to kind

939
00:47:18,639 --> 00:47:21,679
of start this because we needed to talk about it

940
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:26,440
as a family. And you know, while they're discussing Joshua there,

941
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,920
all of them, they're just wanting to talk about his

942
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,480
life and like how he was as a little baby,

943
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,280
and his personality sounded so cute, so cute, and how

944
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,440
he called ducks gucks and he's a sweet baby, and

945
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,480
you know, Kim acknowledges the couple kids that didn't get

946
00:47:46,519 --> 00:47:48,960
to meet Joshua, and so she brings out these little

947
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,360
rubber duckies for them, which I thought was really adorable

948
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,239
and sweet. And that must have been really hard for

949
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,960
Kim to do, and I'm glad that she was able

950
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,039
to do that for the kids. And Lydia pipes up

951
00:48:01,039 --> 00:48:03,880
and says, you know, I just want to acknowledge him

952
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,400
more because we always talk about how there's nine of us, valid,

953
00:48:07,639 --> 00:48:10,280
totally valid, that there's nine of us and there's three brothers,

954
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,519
but actually there's ten of us and four brothers.

955
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: And just in this season, it was Barry on his

956
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,840
weird date who said I have nine kids. No, you've

957
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:17,440
got ten kids.

958
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: You've got ten kids, dude. And I think that that

959
00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:22,800
is completely fair and valid. And it seems like that's

960
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,119
really all Lydia wanted was just to acknowledge the fact

961
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:30,440
that there is ten of us. We do have another brother.

962
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,760
He's in heaven right now, and that's all that she needed.

963
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,239
And I think Kim's like, we can do that. And

964
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,199
we have Ethan and Isaac and Mariah kind of talking

965
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,639
about their memories about Joshua and how they would ride

966
00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:49,760
around with him in a little wagon, which was really cute.

967
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,519
And Kim also recounts like some of the memories of

968
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,880
watching the kids play with Joshua, which again must have

969
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,960
been really hard for her to do. But I think

970
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:02,480
that that's really sweet. And like the thing is is

971
00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:05,280
like grief is really complicated. There's lots of things that

972
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,320
go into it, and it's a very internal thing. But

973
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,039
sometimes you do have to talk about it. Sometimes you

974
00:49:11,079 --> 00:49:14,440
do have to acknowledge it. Feeling is the secret, and

975
00:49:14,519 --> 00:49:16,440
you do have to move.

976
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: Through that to move I know you did not just

977
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,599
quote Neville did to me. I've quoted Neville.

978
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 2: God feeling it's the secret.

979
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: So it's my girl right there.

980
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: And my therapist has been telling me this too, like,

981
00:49:26,519 --> 00:49:28,039
you know, you have to be able to deal with

982
00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:29,719
these emotions. You have to be able to feel them

983
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,119
even when they're fucking hard.

984
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: The is through.

985
00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 2: Exactly, and so I think that that's what we're seeing

986
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,800
here with the family, like they're trying to feel the

987
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,719
good stuff. And Mariah says, you know, you can't really

988
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,599
get stuck in the grief, like you have to be

989
00:49:42,599 --> 00:49:45,960
able to like acknowledge the good and that's a hard

990
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,880
thing to do. It's a process it's a lifelong process.

991
00:49:49,559 --> 00:49:52,840
But I think overall this was sweet for them to

992
00:49:53,119 --> 00:49:58,920
talk about Joshua acknowledge him. Kim asks Barry how he's doing,

993
00:49:59,199 --> 00:49:59,880
which I love.

994
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:02,559
Speaker 1: I love that, Like in this moment, I mean, maybe

995
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:03,360
I'm being duped.

996
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

997
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,559
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm like buying it. Maybe this is I don't thinker,

998
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:09,079
but like I'm buying it. And in the moment when

999
00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:11,280
she's like, Barry, how are you doing? Are you okay?

1000
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,599
I was like, thanks, Kim, because Barry is probably always

1001
00:50:14,599 --> 00:50:16,800
in the background because he doesn't offer himself up because

1002
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,679
he doesn't really know how to communicate. But I thought

1003
00:50:19,679 --> 00:50:23,039
that was great and then he answered her he does.

1004
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,800
I think Barry, it's the best he can do. Beatrice.

1005
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 2: I know he's such a matter of fact person, like

1006
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,760
he's not very emotional at all. It would be really

1007
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,519
nice to see just like a little crack.

1008
00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: It'd be nice to know his signs.

1009
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, to know like how he deals with things. It's

1010
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:44,840
giving Virgo, it's giving major Earth sign like Virgo, maybe

1011
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,159
Capricorn and there or something very very stoic. And for me,

1012
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,679
that's always been hard for me to understand in other

1013
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,840
people because I'm somebody that's very emotional, like I wear

1014
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,039
my heart on my sleeve. I can't help it, like

1015
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:00,599
you're gonna see my emotions just kind of weep out

1016
00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:03,639
of me. But I think it was nice that Kim

1017
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,800
asked him how he was doing, because I'm zooming out

1018
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,960
of the meta of it. And Barry really did have

1019
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,320
to put himself in the background, because obviously this was

1020
00:51:13,519 --> 00:51:15,960
something that Kim did. This was at the hands of her.

1021
00:51:16,199 --> 00:51:19,559
She lost a child while also pregnant, like her emotions

1022
00:51:19,559 --> 00:51:22,199
took the front, and the emotions of the kids took

1023
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,880
the front. And So even though I shit on Barry

1024
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:28,800
for being like a robot and for being super passive,

1025
00:51:29,639 --> 00:51:32,760
the strength that you would have to have to be

1026
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,599
the patriarch and to be like, Okay, well, I still

1027
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:36,800
got to make the money, though, I still got to

1028
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,239
support the family financially and all of this stuff. I

1029
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,960
also have to support my wife and defend her tooth

1030
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,599
and nail. He has always defended her, Yes, he has

1031
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:46,880
never blamed her for this, and that's a hard fucking

1032
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:47,480
thing to do.

1033
00:51:47,639 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: I think most marriages, I mean, if not almost all

1034
00:51:50,519 --> 00:51:55,519
of them would have fallen apart one spouse running over

1035
00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:56,320
a child.

1036
00:51:56,159 --> 00:51:59,039
Speaker 2: And resenting that for and so the fact that he's

1037
00:51:59,079 --> 00:52:01,760
never done that, he has always just put himself in

1038
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,400
the back burner. I think that that's really commendable. But

1039
00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:07,360
after Kim asks Barry how he's doing, then we have

1040
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,880
Mariah asking Kim how she's doing. Yeah, well, mom, like

1041
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,360
we're talking about all this, like how are you doing.

1042
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,280
Kim's like I'm okay, Like I can, I can handle this.

1043
00:52:16,599 --> 00:52:21,039
And then we have Lydia telling Kim, you know, I think,

1044
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,519
like every time I think about it, about the strength

1045
00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:28,400
that you had to keep on and keep raising us

1046
00:52:28,519 --> 00:52:31,199
after losing a child, Like I just can't believe it.

1047
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,360
You're so strong. And that got me in my heart.

1048
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was wonderful. Thank you, Lydia.

1049
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,159
Speaker 2: That got me in my heart.

1050
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: That's Christianity, that is Christian's love.

1051
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 2: And that's also maturity. Maturity to look at your parents

1052
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,320
as a human being, because that's like a marker. I

1053
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,480
feel like that's a it's a coming of age thing

1054
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,559
where you grow up and you realize, like, man, my

1055
00:52:50,639 --> 00:52:53,000
parents fucked up a lot. They did some things wrong,

1056
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,039
they hurt my feelings or whatever, but at the same time,

1057
00:52:56,559 --> 00:52:59,039
like they were just this is their first time doing

1058
00:52:59,079 --> 00:53:01,880
it too, and you have to accept that and then

1059
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,039
you have emotion and empathy for everything that they went through.

1060
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 1: Can I just share that moment for me with my mother.

1061
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,239
I was a teenager actually, and we were hanging out

1062
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:18,000
in the living room and I just happened to notice

1063
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,440
that she had painted her nails and that they were

1064
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,519
like a little chipped or whatever. And I had never

1065
00:53:26,639 --> 00:53:31,719
acknowledged that my mother cared about her nails, painted her nails,

1066
00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:34,679
how my mother dressed. I had only until that moment,

1067
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,719
really interacted with my mother as somebody who was in

1068
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,960
a role as it related to me. And it was

1069
00:53:43,039 --> 00:53:47,079
like this opening up in my consciousness, this epiphany of like, oh,

1070
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:52,679
mom wants to be pretty. Mom's a woman's mom is pretty,

1071
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,079
you know. And then it got me thinking about my

1072
00:53:55,199 --> 00:53:58,119
mom and how she was in a relationship with my

1073
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,800
bitch ass dad and like all the things I knew

1074
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,880
about that as a child in a very dysfunctional, abusive situation,

1075
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,239
and like how that would impact a woman who wants

1076
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,800
to be pretty and loved by her husband. Like I

1077
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:15,280
just it was such an overwhelming moment of recognition and

1078
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:20,639
understanding and sadness for a woman who's just a person

1079
00:54:21,079 --> 00:54:23,280
and is probably doing the best she can fucking do

1080
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,440
to just make sure I graduate from high school, which

1081
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,159
I barely did graduate from high school, and make it

1082
00:54:28,159 --> 00:54:30,199
in my life and like launch me into the world,

1083
00:54:30,639 --> 00:54:33,440
like she was doing all that she could, and I

1084
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,039
just remember, like the grooves in her nails. I remember

1085
00:54:37,079 --> 00:54:39,320
the grooves in her nails, and I'm like, oh, you're

1086
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,440
a person like me.

1087
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 2: It's so funny how like such a small thing like

1088
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,079
that can unlock such.

1089
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,159
Speaker 1: A big understanding.

1090
00:54:46,679 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 2: Understanding and epiphany, and like it really is a marker

1091
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,079
of maturity to be able to look at your parents

1092
00:54:52,119 --> 00:54:55,360
like that, and some people never get past that, Like

1093
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,599
some people still look at their parents as like they

1094
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:00,280
were so fucking evil and terrible, and some parents aren't. Okay,

1095
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,039
Like some parents are terrible, but not all of them are,

1096
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,480
and every parent makes mistakes, and it's one of those

1097
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,519
things that you just have to come to terms with

1098
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,920
as an adult. As a young person, it's just a

1099
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,880
human being like that, we're all on this journey together.

1100
00:55:16,039 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: It actually makes it easier for you because then, like

1101
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,239
when you see them as just another human being on

1102
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,679
the path, it's easier to forgive.

1103
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 2: That it is.

1104
00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just like, Okay, well, mom was doing the

1105
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,760
best that she could. She didn't get it all right,

1106
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,280
and my dad was a bitch as or whatever, but

1107
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:30,719
like he was just a human being too, was an

1108
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,119
addict or whatever. Like it helps you to contextualize everything

1109
00:55:34,159 --> 00:55:36,519
and forgive them. And so in this conversation with Lydia

1110
00:55:36,519 --> 00:55:39,280
bringing it back to the show and the rest of

1111
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,039
the kids, it's just this utterly human moment between all

1112
00:55:43,079 --> 00:55:45,440
of them where they can see each other, yeah, who

1113
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,920
they are now as adults or like they're almost adults,

1114
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:52,039
these little er kids, And I just felt like, ooh, poignant.

1115
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 2: And I do really love how all of the Plath

1116
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,480
kids seem to have this common understanding that their mom

1117
00:55:57,519 --> 00:56:00,159
went through this horrible tragedy and that she did the

1118
00:56:00,199 --> 00:56:01,039
best that she could.

1119
00:56:01,159 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if she was a piece of shit down

1120
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,719
to her core, there would be a few kids in

1121
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,679
that circle who would be like, fuck you, mom, I'm

1122
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,559
not buying anything you're saying right now. But no, they're

1123
00:56:10,599 --> 00:56:15,039
all there authentically in the moment, living their mom yeah,

1124
00:56:15,079 --> 00:56:15,480
and their.

1125
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 2: Dad and loving them for dealing with that and going

1126
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,480
through that. So I think that that's beautiful. And then

1127
00:56:21,519 --> 00:56:26,000
after that they go out to the farm and pull

1128
00:56:26,039 --> 00:56:29,559
out the bench where they etched Joshua's name, and they

1129
00:56:29,639 --> 00:56:32,239
all like etched a part of a letter or the

1130
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,840
full letter of Joshua's name together, so that way it

1131
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:40,519
was a collective thing. But Mike is not there, and

1132
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,199
I just have to wonder why.

1133
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is like kind of a big moment.

1134
00:56:45,039 --> 00:56:48,039
Speaker 2: I feel like that's kind of shitty, low key to

1135
00:56:48,119 --> 00:56:50,719
not be there for something like this, But maybe he

1136
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,760
didn't know that they're doing.

1137
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to give Mike a grace. He showed up

1138
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,320
for the big scene with the cameras when they went

1139
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,039
to the grave with Olivia having attnchrument the van. He's

1140
00:57:01,039 --> 00:57:04,159
shown hup for everything. He had a terrible season last

1141
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:08,559
year where he was literally abused by a woman on camera,

1142
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,679
and he needs to take a breath, and I think

1143
00:57:10,679 --> 00:57:12,920
that's okay. And I do think he's going to make

1144
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,760
it back up to the farm and he's going to

1145
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,519
have his moment private doing whatever he wants to do

1146
00:57:17,639 --> 00:57:20,039
with that bench. And I think that that's perfectly okay.

1147
00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:22,280
I get it actually with Micah.

1148
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think like, in the context of the show,

1149
00:57:24,639 --> 00:57:26,360
like not wanting to do it on camera. I think

1150
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,159
is fair and valid, and like, you know, Joseanna's not there.

1151
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,199
She has not been yep on this season at all.

1152
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,840
I wonder if she even has contact with the family,

1153
00:57:35,199 --> 00:57:35,679
she even talks.

1154
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: I feel like she does. I feel like from what

1155
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,079
I have picked up in the zeitgeist that she does

1156
00:57:41,119 --> 00:57:42,880
she just doesn't want to be public. And I think

1157
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:47,519
she's got like a persona and a role in her church.

1158
00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:50,159
I think she's a traveling musician with her husband, who

1159
00:57:50,199 --> 00:57:52,320
is a Christian traveling musician. So like she's got a

1160
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,199
whole like reputation she's got to preserve and she can't

1161
00:57:55,239 --> 00:57:58,519
get in the fucking mud with these blasts doing all

1162
00:57:58,559 --> 00:57:58,840
this shit.

1163
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy family, So I get it. And so while

1164
00:58:02,199 --> 00:58:06,519
they're doing the bench thing, we have poor Tagan who's

1165
00:58:06,679 --> 00:58:10,679
sandwiched on the couch between Ken and Zach.

1166
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: But You're glad you came to Kroe.

1167
00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:16,639
Speaker 2: And Tegan's like this is weird and awkward, Like I

1168
00:58:16,679 --> 00:58:18,760
don't have anything to say to Zach. I don't want

1169
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,519
to talk to him. I'm not going to talk to him.

1170
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,679
So I'm just gonna sit here with the producers and

1171
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,719
Ken talking about their dog. God, poor girl.

1172
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a very awkward turtle, super awkward.

1173
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,119
Speaker 2: But she's beautiful though her dress, I think she's beautiful.

1174
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: Her interstitials with those weird eyelash eyelashes very much of

1175
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,960
an Your vibration is a choice it she looks great.

1176
00:58:45,039 --> 00:58:48,199
Speaker 2: I think so. While she's sitting next to Tea, not

1177
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,159
to Tea, And while she's sitting next to Zach and Ken,

1178
00:58:51,559 --> 00:58:55,519
we hear from her on the camera saying something like, yeah,

1179
00:58:55,519 --> 00:58:59,519
I have nothing no interest in talking to Zach. What

1180
00:58:59,559 --> 00:59:03,679
did she say say? Oh, she said something like, Zach

1181
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,719
and Lydia feel like they're ostracized, but that's not true,

1182
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,079
Like they're not excluded from the family whatsoever. I may

1183
00:59:10,119 --> 00:59:12,079
not be a part of the family, but I know

1184
00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:17,119
that they're included. So whatever they're saying is BSPs.

1185
00:59:17,159 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: And also, when they are included, they want to be

1186
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:20,519
catered to.

1187
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:21,239
Speaker 2: Yes.

1188
00:59:21,559 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: That so I can attest to the fact that they

1189
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,119
are included. They are not excluded, but when they are included,

1190
00:59:26,159 --> 00:59:27,280
they want to be catered to.

1191
00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 2: Yes. And in this moment on the couch, she's like,

1192
00:59:30,039 --> 00:59:32,199
I just don't want to dampen the mood of like

1193
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,880
their anniversary because I know that that's kind of the

1194
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,880
purpose of why we're here, and Zach and Lydia don't

1195
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,000
know that that's part of the surprise and stuff. But like,

1196
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,039
I'm just here to celebrate their one year or whatever,

1197
00:59:43,719 --> 00:59:45,239
and then I'm going to go back to Wisconsin.

1198
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,239
Speaker 1: Then I'm going to bounce and get myself a new

1199
00:59:47,239 --> 00:59:49,880
boyfriend and live my best life. Thank you very much

1200
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:50,559
in advance.

1201
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 2: Bye. And so then after the bench signing and whatever,

1202
00:59:55,039 --> 00:59:57,960
they all come back inside. It starts raining. They were

1203
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,639
going to do the whole celebration outside, so now they

1204
01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:03,280
have a change of plans, and Kim wants to decorate

1205
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,920
the inside, but in order to keep it a surprise

1206
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,239
from Zach and Lydia, she makes Mariah and Mercy take

1207
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:15,239
them up to the attic and play the violin, which

1208
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,519
is really weird with all of her horror bullshit up

1209
01:00:18,559 --> 01:00:22,039
there in the attic while downstairs they're getting everything ready,

1210
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,960
and then they bring Zach and Lydia down and they

1211
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:29,000
sing happy anniversary to them, and Zach and Lydia pretend

1212
01:00:29,039 --> 01:00:32,480
to be happy about it, but like to the camera,

1213
01:00:32,599 --> 01:00:36,840
they're kind of like throwing these little backhanded comments of like, well,

1214
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,960
I'm surprised that they were able to put something together

1215
01:00:41,559 --> 01:00:41,920
for us.

1216
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were very passive aggressive about it, like, yeah,

1217
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,840
it's the one year anniversary of the worst day of

1218
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,199
my life. But I guess this is fine.

1219
01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:53,079
Speaker 2: And to be fair, like they chose to do this

1220
01:00:53,079 --> 01:00:56,800
whole confrontation on this one year anniversary also, so it's

1221
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,800
not really like the best. Sure, so I get it,

1222
01:01:01,239 --> 01:01:04,679
but also stop being judgmental hosts. Yeah, and it probably

1223
01:01:04,719 --> 01:01:07,679
wouldn't have been a problem. But whatever they like celebrate.

1224
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:12,360
They drink some like weird drink that Kim made for them.

1225
01:01:12,519 --> 01:01:14,000
I'm assuming it's not alcoholic.

1226
01:01:14,079 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: He's probably with her juicer.

1227
01:01:15,519 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 2: We gotta, you know, accommodate to the Christians who don't

1228
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:24,119
drink wine or whatever. And they do a toast. Yep.

1229
01:01:25,599 --> 01:01:28,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. The season finale Babes.

1230
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,519
Speaker 2: Season finale, Kim talks about not being a perfect parent,

1231
01:01:31,079 --> 01:01:31,800
but she's trying.

1232
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:33,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's learning.

1233
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:34,639
Speaker 2: We're all on a journey.

1234
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,239
Speaker 1: Barry is encouraged, like we've had a little bumps in

1235
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,679
the road, but we're a family. We're gonna move on.

1236
01:01:41,559 --> 01:01:44,280
And then cut to fucking Zach and Lydia and he

1237
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,360
looks pissed. He does look, this is where he cuts

1238
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,719
off the producer, right, he cuts off Lydia.

1239
01:01:48,519 --> 01:01:51,039
Speaker 2: Cuts off Lydia. Where does he say? I have it?

1240
01:01:51,119 --> 01:01:54,960
In the notes here the Zach says he was amazed

1241
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,559
they put in this effort, hopes next time the conflict

1242
01:01:58,559 --> 01:02:02,320
arises that he's not Missinger stood. The producer asks, how

1243
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:06,719
can you ensure that there is no more misunderstanding? Lydia

1244
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,719
starts to answer for him, and this is where Zach

1245
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,679
cuts her off as just let me answer please.

1246
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: And it's the vibration he's in when he says it.

1247
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,960
It's not like, hey, baby, let me fin actually let

1248
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,840
me I got it. I have something to say. It's

1249
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,639
my let me finish what I'm saying. Yes, no fucking talk.

1250
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:23,079
Speaker 2: Yes.

1251
01:02:23,159 --> 01:02:26,159
Speaker 1: That was the vibration and the way his face looked stern.

1252
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 2: He was very stern. He looked down on her, and

1253
01:02:29,639 --> 01:02:32,239
you know, she laughs it off and tries to like

1254
01:02:32,639 --> 01:02:35,639
be lovey dovey with him. But he's not reciprocating that

1255
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:36,440
energy with that.

1256
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,559
Speaker 1: That at all, and he rarely does, especially when it's

1257
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:43,360
like sexual stuff, yep, intimacy stuff. He's very stern. He's cold.

1258
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,639
He's cold, and I thank you producers. I thank you

1259
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,119
for showing this both of the instances where he cut

1260
01:02:50,159 --> 01:02:52,639
off the producer and then he cut off Lydia, and

1261
01:02:52,679 --> 01:02:55,639
we can see his actual nature and the energy he's

1262
01:02:55,679 --> 01:02:58,159
coming into this with. And he's not a nice person.

1263
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,039
Speaker 2: I've been seeing these little moments the entire time we've

1264
01:03:01,039 --> 01:03:03,840
been seeing him, but it's like, you know, you couldn't

1265
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,000
discern whether or not, like maybe this was editing or

1266
01:03:07,039 --> 01:03:10,039
maybe it was whatever. Now we know this is just

1267
01:03:10,119 --> 01:03:14,000
Zack's attitude and honestly, major red flags yea, And people

1268
01:03:14,039 --> 01:03:15,599
even on Reddit are calling it out.

1269
01:03:15,639 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: Thank god, thank you.

1270
01:03:16,719 --> 01:03:19,559
Speaker 2: People are seeing the light. Yeah, holy shit, because this

1271
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,039
entire season, people on Reddit are l like, oh we

1272
01:03:22,159 --> 01:03:26,719
got Zag and Lydia. They're the outcasts, they're the villains.

1273
01:03:26,719 --> 01:03:28,840
They got to get away from the evil plass the

1274
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,719
evil family. And now they're like, Lydia run right, you're

1275
01:03:32,719 --> 01:03:37,440
married to an asshole. But we can make subjectively true. Yeah,

1276
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,400
and thank god production showed us what we sensed to

1277
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:41,039
be true.

1278
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: And Lydia, you and danger girl.

1279
01:03:43,559 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 2: You and Danger girl.

1280
01:03:44,519 --> 01:03:46,239
Speaker 1: But you're young like I was when I was first

1281
01:03:46,239 --> 01:03:47,920
married at eighteen years old. I don't know what the

1282
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,239
hell I was getting into and this is the saying

1283
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,559
that we haven't what it's bumm by you learn. In

1284
01:03:54,599 --> 01:03:58,199
other words, later on, you're you're gonna learn. You'll know.

1285
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,800
In four years, you'll realize what the hell you did wrong.

1286
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,719
Bye bye, You'll learn. And Lydia, that's you, yep.

1287
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,199
Speaker 2: And like the family, it seems like they have this

1288
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,920
mentality of like, well, we'll just let you figure it out,

1289
01:04:11,079 --> 01:04:13,559
and we'll be here when you do figure it out.

1290
01:04:13,639 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 3: Yep.

1291
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,239
Speaker 2: We'll still love you through it or whatever. And if

1292
01:04:16,239 --> 01:04:19,000
you don't want to talk to us for three years, okay, fine, Blake,

1293
01:04:19,039 --> 01:04:21,559
we'll be here yea. And I feel like I hope

1294
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,079
that Lydia will realize it. I just worry because she's

1295
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:27,519
so fucking naive and she's.

1296
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: Drinking the kool aide. She's in the trad wife pipeline.

1297
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,920
She is very much so trying to be and maybe

1298
01:04:35,079 --> 01:04:38,599
was groomed to be by her own parents, a submissive

1299
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,840
wife and a Christian relationship with a patriarchal dominant or

1300
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,960
a man trying to be dominant who's not naturally dominant,

1301
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,559
because you wouldn't know what that even feels or looks like.

1302
01:04:49,639 --> 01:04:52,719
And she's just a terrible dynamic in a relationship, and

1303
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,679
I'm so I just you know, I just.

1304
01:04:54,639 --> 01:04:56,199
Speaker 2: Remember myself being dressed.

1305
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember myself at that age.

1306
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 4: I had no concept of hell truly beautiful.

1307
01:05:01,039 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: I was, how literally gorgeous, and.

1308
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,559
Speaker 4: How smart and intelligent I was, and I was so

1309
01:05:06,719 --> 01:05:10,239
fucking funny, dude, Like I could have had anybody that

1310
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,679
I wanted, but I was from such a fucked up

1311
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,559
family that I under that I didn't know my own

1312
01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:17,719
worth or my own value, And like I went with

1313
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,440
the first guy who showed me any attention and he's

1314
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,599
I still know him, He's a good person or whatever.

1315
01:05:22,599 --> 01:05:25,639
Speaker 1: But I had no concept of self. And that is

1316
01:05:25,639 --> 01:05:28,440
what we're seeing with Lydia Plath. She has no concept

1317
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:32,440
of herself outside of her identity as a Christian and

1318
01:05:32,519 --> 01:05:35,239
the system of belief that she's been caught up in

1319
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,320
like the fucking borg, and outside of her relationship with

1320
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,199
this guy, which is also related to the same system.

1321
01:05:41,239 --> 01:05:43,239
She does not know who she is. But let me

1322
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,800
tell you, if things go the way that I hope

1323
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,599
they do, at some point she'll be liberated from this

1324
01:05:49,519 --> 01:05:54,519
wet fucking blanket theater kid potentially gay person, and she'll

1325
01:05:54,519 --> 01:05:58,119
have some sort of sexual and consciousness liberation. She'll come

1326
01:05:58,119 --> 01:06:00,559
into her own she'll feel her own body, and she'll

1327
01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:03,679
have a great life. But like, actually, the odds are

1328
01:06:03,719 --> 01:06:06,760
kind of against her. And that's what's sad about this show.

1329
01:06:07,079 --> 01:06:08,760
That's what's sad about lydia Plath.

1330
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 2: To me, it's super sad, honestly. And like, now you're

1331
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,440
stuck to a guy who's just like gonna be condescending.

1332
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,079
Speaker 1: A fucking drip. Dude. Yep, he's probably got a non

1333
01:06:17,159 --> 01:06:20,880
penis penis. He certainly doesn't know how to use it.

1334
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,360
Hopefully he would know how to use his tongue. But

1335
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:24,559
with that doll mouth.

1336
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:25,119
Speaker 2: I doubt it.

1337
01:06:25,239 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: Like, Honey, you seem excited by sex, but I bet

1338
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,079
you have no idea how good it can fucking be

1339
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:31,280
with the right partners.

1340
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 2: That ain't it. He's not it. Maybe he's good with

1341
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:39,400
his fingers, because I doubt that little tongue can get anywhere, a.

1342
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: Little reptile tongue. Fuck, I just can't, dude.

1343
01:06:44,079 --> 01:06:46,119
Speaker 2: And I just hope that they like wait to have

1344
01:06:46,239 --> 01:06:49,039
kids for a while, Like I hope that.

1345
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: They're not going to. She already wants to. She's got

1346
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,159
baby fever. Already, but he.

1347
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if he can go Oh my god,

1348
01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:58,679
I I don't.

1349
01:06:58,519 --> 01:07:01,039
Speaker 1: Know if he can comfort all. Maybe if he closes

1350
01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:03,360
his eyes and things of Isaac, Oh.

1351
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 2: My god, or my a sidebar. Your daughter had read

1352
01:07:07,039 --> 01:07:10,639
off this like crazy Reddit post to me earlier today,

1353
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,679
where this wife was saying while her and her husband

1354
01:07:13,679 --> 01:07:17,599
were having sex, her husband shouted out he didn't mean

1355
01:07:17,639 --> 01:07:20,039
to like it sounded like he was like thinking about

1356
01:07:20,039 --> 01:07:23,000
something fantasizing, but he ended up blurting out like, oh,

1357
01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:24,639
the sweet boy, pussy.

1358
01:07:26,199 --> 01:07:26,599
Speaker 1: Bussy.

1359
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 2: She was like, I don't know if I can have

1360
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,519
sex with him ever again, or like be with him

1361
01:07:30,519 --> 01:07:32,800
ever again. Yeah, because he was obviously.

1362
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: He's envisioning pussy exactly.

1363
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,559
Speaker 2: That's what I think with Zach anyway.

1364
01:07:39,119 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: What a tangled web we weave when we deceive ourselves

1365
01:07:43,079 --> 01:07:44,679
of who it is that we actually are when we're

1366
01:07:44,719 --> 01:07:48,800
gay and stuff. I know. Well, listen, let's end our

1367
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:52,840
recap with a total score A grade if you will

1368
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,840
for this season? What do you give it?

1369
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: See? Okay, middle of the row? Maybe C minus because

1370
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:02,679
it was kind of boring.

1371
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean on the heels of last season, which

1372
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,559
was really to me. It was it was really great,

1373
01:08:08,679 --> 01:08:12,239
so fucking good. I was, like, I had such high hopes.

1374
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,720
I thought we got the flavor of that, like woven

1375
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,800
throughout the various episodes, but like, for the most part,

1376
01:08:20,279 --> 01:08:23,399
it wasn't really there. So I would agree I'd maybe

1377
01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:26,600
give it a C plus because we were introduced to

1378
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,960
a new Plath family villain. Yeah, and some of this

1379
01:08:31,039 --> 01:08:34,239
stuff was interesting. What would I have liked to see?

1380
01:08:34,279 --> 01:08:38,760
I would have liked to see Micah I I I

1381
01:08:39,119 --> 01:08:44,079
my kingdom for Micah telling us who he truly is

1382
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,760
and living his best life authentically as he truly is,

1383
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,079
and just knowing like what he's going through, Like I

1384
01:08:51,119 --> 01:08:54,840
would have loved that. I really would have loved to

1385
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,039
get more of a snapshot of Mariah and what's happening

1386
01:08:58,079 --> 01:09:00,359
in Montana, Like I'm working at a bar. Are there

1387
01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:03,840
cowboys there? Are they hot? Like are you dating? And

1388
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,000
like what's going on? And what does your house look like?

1389
01:09:06,199 --> 01:09:08,039
You know, we don't really get a sense of what's

1390
01:09:08,039 --> 01:09:12,680
happening with Mariah. I would have loved that, but we

1391
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,760
didn't get it, so yeah, C plus.

1392
01:09:15,159 --> 01:09:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I don't really care to watch Barry

1393
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,920
date random.

1394
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 1: And it was too much of that bullshit. It was

1395
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,359
too much, too much of like Kim and her juicer

1396
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,000
and Kim and his jukebox and talking about.

1397
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,520
Speaker 2: Her body, Like, why do we even talk about her body?

1398
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,199
Speaker 1: Let us do that. Yeah, we don't need you doing that, Ken,

1399
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,239
leave that to Beatrice and Delia. We've got that covered. Thanks.

1400
01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:38,199
Speaker 2: Why don't even talk about it if we're not gonna

1401
01:09:38,199 --> 01:09:42,159
like acknowledge her exercise routine or anything like that. We

1402
01:09:42,199 --> 01:09:44,880
saw her with a kettlebell, yeah, in a mini trampoline.

1403
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Speaker 1: Thanks, that was a time. Then we never mentioned it again, Like,

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01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,239
how do you have this big conversation about how I

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01:09:52,279 --> 01:09:54,680
will literally leave you? Yeah, because I think you're gonna

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01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,319
die due to fatness. And then we never talk about

1407
01:09:57,319 --> 01:09:59,479
it again at all, and she doesn't do anything about

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01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,760
it in the season. Yeah, I mean as it appears,

1409
01:10:02,079 --> 01:10:03,880
so like, what's going on with that? That seems like

1410
01:10:04,359 --> 01:10:05,319
a big thing to say.

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01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,319
Speaker 2: Dude, watch her get on a GOLP one when I

1412
01:10:08,359 --> 01:10:10,960
told you, yeah one hundred. This is setting up her

1413
01:10:11,319 --> 01:10:14,079
GLB one story arc. What if she ends up like

1414
01:10:14,159 --> 01:10:14,800
Mary Brown?

1415
01:10:15,239 --> 01:10:17,119
Speaker 1: What if she ends up like Kelly Osborne?

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01:10:17,159 --> 01:10:19,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, have you seen Mary Brown?

1417
01:10:20,239 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 3: Look?

1418
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,279
Speaker 1: Mary Brown looks Okay, she doesn't look terrible, like she's

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01:10:23,279 --> 01:10:24,239
lost a lot of weight.

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01:10:25,079 --> 01:10:26,239
Speaker 2: She looks a little weird, but.

1421
01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: She does not look like a crypt keeper like ke

1422
01:10:30,079 --> 01:10:30,920
Kelly Osborne.

1423
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,560
Speaker 2: Dude, she has a full on ed.

1424
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:36,119
Speaker 1: Now that thing I sent you on Instagram, I sent

1425
01:10:36,239 --> 01:10:39,399
you for real thing at real, I sent you where

1426
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:41,359
this guy was looking at a recent picture of her

1427
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,199
at something like is that AI?

1428
01:10:45,039 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 2: No, it's real?

1429
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 1: I And then to me more like, I don't know.

1430
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,279
The GLP one thing really scares me, although I'm still

1431
01:10:50,279 --> 01:10:54,159
considering it, but I think that that's probably going to

1432
01:10:54,199 --> 01:10:56,000
be one of her story arcs. Next week, She's gonna

1433
01:10:56,039 --> 01:10:58,520
come back and she's going to be probably seventy five

1434
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,199
pounds down. Yeah, and we're gonna be talking a lot

1435
01:11:01,239 --> 01:11:03,760
about our weight. And Ethan's going to be single because

1436
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,000
Tiagan left him for a better dude. Yeah, he's probably

1437
01:11:07,039 --> 01:11:09,880
back in kro and maybe he's dating.

1438
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:12,520
Speaker 2: I hope he's still in therapy. I hope he keeps

1439
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,960
that up, Yeah, because I think he is benefiting from

1440
01:11:16,039 --> 01:11:18,840
it right now, like he seems to have done okay

1441
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:19,960
in this last episode.

1442
01:11:20,119 --> 01:11:22,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't hurt anybody. No, he didn't fly off

1443
01:11:22,319 --> 01:11:23,000
the handle. Yeah.

1444
01:11:23,079 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 2: No, and so I'm like, keep going be single for

1445
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,039
a while, work on your cars. Yeah, and then maybe

1446
01:11:28,039 --> 01:11:31,439
you'll find a nice girl who will accept you for that.

1447
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,279
I don't know, we'll see.

1448
01:11:33,359 --> 01:11:36,119
Speaker 1: I think if he pulls his mental health stuff together

1449
01:11:36,199 --> 01:11:38,880
and learns how to communicate, I think, and gets a job,

1450
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,319
like an actual job, I think that he could be

1451
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:46,039
a good partner to somebody who's like minded or whatever.

1452
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,199
I want to see what happens with Amber. There was

1453
01:11:48,239 --> 01:11:51,319
a moment when they were in I think the Joshua

1454
01:11:51,399 --> 01:11:54,840
circle and they panned to Amber and the son was

1455
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,079
like just hitting her just so and her beautiful aqua

1456
01:11:58,119 --> 01:12:01,479
marine eyes. I'm like, talk about a girl who probably

1457
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,960
has no idea, oh none, how beautiful she is. She's

1458
01:12:05,239 --> 01:12:08,479
just resplendent. I don't know, you're just girl.

1459
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of these kids are really beautiful, Yes,

1460
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:12,359
like a lot of.

1461
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,239
Speaker 1: Objectively good looking kids.

1462
01:12:14,359 --> 01:12:16,279
Speaker 2: Yes, Barry and kid did something right.

1463
01:12:17,039 --> 01:12:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and honestly I think it was Kim.

1464
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 3: Well.

1465
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: Actually, when you look at Barry as the younger man,

1466
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,840
younger pictures, tall, dark and hands on there, yeah, kind

1467
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:30,720
also a looker, Yeah, very beautiful or just anyway, I

1468
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:35,399
hope for another season. I don't want the manufactured producer bullshit.

1469
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,079
I'm always raging against that machine. But like, if you

1470
01:12:38,119 --> 01:12:40,079
want to come back and show me your real stories,

1471
01:12:40,119 --> 01:12:40,880
I am invested.

1472
01:12:41,199 --> 01:12:45,239
Speaker 2: I'm invested. I wonder how we're gonna deal with things,

1473
01:12:45,279 --> 01:12:49,000
like I wonder if Kim not Kim, Lydia and Zach

1474
01:12:49,039 --> 01:12:52,239
are going to continue being on another season now that

1475
01:12:52,239 --> 01:12:53,159
they're in Colorado.

1476
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: That is my question because.

1477
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 2: If not, who's gonna be the villain?

1478
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,239
Speaker 1: Well, who's gonna be the who's gonna be the a

1479
01:13:00,279 --> 01:13:04,239
person making money in that family? Without Lydia being, oh, like,

1480
01:13:04,239 --> 01:13:06,399
what are you going to be doing? Zach? I think

1481
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,960
I just feel like Zach underneath it all is a

1482
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,399
bit of a cloud goblin totally, and he wants to

1483
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,119
be on this show. So I think that they would

1484
01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:15,279
follow them, but I don't know.

1485
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:18,159
Speaker 2: Well, Lydia's doing a bunch of like content creation now,

1486
01:13:18,199 --> 01:13:21,279
and she's posting a lot of like tiktoks and reels

1487
01:13:21,359 --> 01:13:24,119
and she's trying to be like a trad wife Ballerina

1488
01:13:24,159 --> 01:13:27,720
farm no content person, like she's learning how to make sourdough,

1489
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,199
but poorly kind of judging her for it a little

1490
01:13:30,199 --> 01:13:32,239
bit because you are the queen. I'm the sourdough queen.

1491
01:13:32,319 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 1: You are.

1492
01:13:33,199 --> 01:13:35,359
Speaker 2: So I'm just like, I don't know what they're gonna do.

1493
01:13:36,079 --> 01:13:38,239
Maybe they're gonna keep platform so that way they can

1494
01:13:38,239 --> 01:13:41,159
get paid. But if they're not, then what are we

1495
01:13:41,199 --> 01:13:42,600
gonna What are we gonna watch?

1496
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:46,399
Speaker 1: Listen, when Amber comes of age, that girl can have

1497
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:50,880
any boy she wants, and there can be some drama

1498
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:54,760
associated with that. I mean, there are still some things

1499
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,880
that we can get into with his family, especially if

1500
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,960
we bring Mica back. Yeah, so we'll wait and see. Guys,

1501
01:14:00,079 --> 01:14:04,319
I have no idea. I do know that maybe Sister

1502
01:14:04,359 --> 01:14:06,039
Wives is coming back. We can talk about that in

1503
01:14:06,039 --> 01:14:08,359
the Sister Wives episode. But maybe Sister Wives is coming

1504
01:14:08,399 --> 01:14:09,399
back in a little while.

1505
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 2: But what should we watch?

1506
01:14:11,199 --> 01:14:12,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the question.

1507
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 2: Let us know what shows are out there? Yeah, what

1508
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:16,199
you guys want to.

1509
01:14:16,159 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 1: Say, it's gotta be trashy. You know what we didn't

1510
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:23,520
watch this year was Temptation Island, which is on Netflix.

1511
01:14:24,119 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 2: I'm down for that because we covered that several years

1512
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:27,640
back and that was fun.

1513
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,319
Speaker 1: I loved it. But did anybody care?

1514
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1515
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,159
Speaker 1: Like when we're talking about the Gen Pod, it's like, well,

1516
01:14:32,159 --> 01:14:33,880
what do people really want? What do you guys want

1517
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:37,880
us to cover? And is there anything launching soon? I

1518
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,159
feel like there would be because we're at the beginning

1519
01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:42,279
of summer. I feel like there's gonna be got to

1520
01:14:42,319 --> 01:14:45,800
be something, you know. The Last Resort is out. Yeah,

1521
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:50,000
you've got that Zaied and that old lady. Oh my god,

1522
01:14:50,199 --> 01:14:58,840
Oh my god. And then Jenny and so did you

1523
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:03,319
hear that Jenny has als? No, Jenny was diagnosed with

1524
01:15:03,359 --> 01:15:05,920
als and so when she was filming the Last Resort,

1525
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:11,159
her speech was a little bit. It was a little yes.

1526
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,119
And I guess though that they're at the last Resort

1527
01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:15,960
because to me, it's just a piece of sh He's

1528
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:19,000
just like gambling and drinking, and he's not long hair now,

1529
01:15:19,079 --> 01:15:22,239
and they've been having some problems with his mom.

1530
01:15:22,159 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 2: Still well because he's married to a grand.

1531
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,319
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he's got a mom thing, I think. But

1532
01:15:27,399 --> 01:15:29,119
this is the last Resort. But I don't know. Two

1533
01:15:29,159 --> 01:15:32,039
hours an episode is not up my alley.

1534
01:15:32,239 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't want it to be long because then

1535
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,680
they just drag out stupid content. Yeah, I don't care

1536
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:41,000
about that. I want to see them talk about nasty sex.

1537
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,239
Speaker 1: Oh, got me too, That would be great. Anyway, give

1538
01:15:44,279 --> 01:15:46,800
us your suggestions. Please drop in the comments. And by

1539
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,399
the way, if you're on YouTube, even if you just

1540
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:53,600
leave like a little raccoon emotion, that's very helpful for engagement,

1541
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,119
to help the girls attract new people. And we should

1542
01:15:56,119 --> 01:15:58,960
be doing that because we're a great podcast day we

1543
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,119
should be way more popular than we are now. On

1544
01:16:01,159 --> 01:16:04,119
that note, Beatrice, is there anything else that we need

1545
01:16:04,159 --> 01:16:06,920
to say to these beautiful raccoons before we get upon

1546
01:16:07,199 --> 01:16:08,119
out of here.

1547
01:16:08,359 --> 01:16:11,039
Speaker 2: Well, if you love our podcast, please do us a favor.

1548
01:16:11,159 --> 01:16:13,079
Go to your favorite podcast platform and leave us a

1549
01:16:13,159 --> 01:16:15,600
glowing five star reviews. You don't even have to write anything.

1550
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,920
Just rate us five stars. Really helps us grow the.

1551
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 1: Pod and we really appreciate it, so thank you. We

1552
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:23,439
actually really do, actually really appreciate that. And every single

1553
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,560
review benefits us a great deal. So even if just

1554
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,119
one or two, if you get out there and leave

1555
01:16:28,199 --> 01:16:30,520
us a little something something is really helpful. Thank you,

1556
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,560
Thank you word. We be back next week to talk

1557
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:36,039
to sister wives. Until then, please do not forget that

1558
01:16:36,079 --> 01:16:40,359
we have nothing but love for you and Pease and

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Ma