WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:02.520 Today, I want to welcome back to the show writer Lee. 2 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:06.040 He is a filmmaker, researcher, and host of Raised by 3 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:10.960 Giants podcast. Writer, welcome back. How you doing doing great? 4 00:00:11.039 --> 00:00:15.000 Chris really excited about the new movie out on Amazon Prime. 5 00:00:15.439 --> 00:00:17.839 Hopefully we can get a link in the description for 6 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:20.760 people to get easy access to it. It's only two 7 00:00:20.879 --> 00:00:23.039 ninety nine to wrint in nine ninety nine to buy 8 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:26.239 and I also have DVD copies too. If anybody is 9 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:30.359 interested in purchasing a physical copy of the movie, I 10 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:33.159 have a limited supply of them. I only have fifty 11 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:35.039 of them. I've sent out a few orders, so if 12 00:00:35.039 --> 00:00:38.479 you're interested in getting a DVD copy, email me at 13 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:41.759 Raised by Giants at outlook dot com. 14 00:00:41.880 --> 00:00:44.439 As I was telling you before, another banging job with 15 00:00:44.520 --> 00:00:49.840 this documentary, it's a deep analysis of historical special access 16 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:54.079 programs and the hidden operations within, like remote viewing and 17 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:59.119 psychic splying, which eventually led to creation of institutions like 18 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:03.920 Gate the Gifted and Talented program. I really enjoyed the film. 19 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:07.439 I will have links directly to it in the description. 20 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:11.040 Before we get into this, remind the audience just a 21 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:13.760 bit about yourself. Let them know how they can find 22 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:14.519 all your content. 23 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:18.280 You can find me on Raised by Giants on YouTube, 24 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:20.799 being on all podcast platforms. If you'd like to reach 25 00:01:20.840 --> 00:01:23.159 out to me personally, you follow me on social media. 26 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:27.560 I've raised by giants on Instagram, and raised by giants 27 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:32.680 on Facebook, and raised by giants on x X Twitter. 28 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:34.319 Baby right on. 29 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:42.120 What was it particularly that brought you to start diving 30 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:47.599 into the topics that you feature in the film, Well. 31 00:01:47.480 --> 00:01:51.640 That's really a roundabout path. I started digging into the 32 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:58.120 mk Ultra programs because back brown three or four years ago, 33 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:01.799 maybe even earlier than that, I started really digging through 34 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:06.280 the mk ultra files, the one hundred and forty nine subprojects, 35 00:02:06.319 --> 00:02:10.159 which we just had a hearing on mk ultra here recently, 36 00:02:11.639 --> 00:02:15.960 and I started reading through all the files, the ones 37 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:18.599 that we have access to, because it's been reported that 38 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:23.759 a lot of them were destroyed, and there were supposedly 39 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:28.000 upwards of three to four hundred subprojects, but that can't 40 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:31.039 be verified. So all we have is the one hundred 41 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:36.360 and forty nine subprojects that we have access to that 42 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:40.000 have been declassified, and I started standing through those and 43 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:44.039 I realized that several of them had to do with 44 00:02:44.840 --> 00:02:52.719 ESP and psychic research such as a sub Project eighty 45 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:57.479 three and sub Project one thirty six, which we show 46 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:02.680 in the movie Psyche ag. The GATE program has to 47 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:09.360 do directly with testing psychic abilities on children. That's what 48 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:13.680 Subproject one six is really about. And then you have 49 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:17.960 MK Ultra Subproject one O two, which is essentially a 50 00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:23.599 summer camp project where the CIA was literally collecting data 51 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:30.560 on one hundred, four hundred and sixty two children. So 52 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:33.360 when I was looking at that, I was like, Okay, well, 53 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:37.960 I know that the government had a psychic spy program 54 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:43.639 where they were using psychics to essentially find out information 55 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:47.360 on foreign targets during the Cold War. And then I 56 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:51.120 got all of those documents. Someone had from the DoD 57 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:54.879 sent me a CD of all the documents that they had. 58 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:59.319 I got an old computer, I really hold computer, because 59 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:03.000 no computers disk drives anymore. I found a really old 60 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:06.000 computer was able to put the CD into the computer 61 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:09.120 and upload and then transfer all those files onto a 62 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:12.400 hard drive. Read through the mall got a really good 63 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:16.600 idea of what was going on and how it developed, 64 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:19.879 and how it all started and where the research started 65 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:23.480 with SRI. But then I found out that it started 66 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:27.399 even before then with the Duke University Mind Science Foundation 67 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:31.360 and many other institutes in colleges before SRI was ever 68 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:35.240 in the picture. And then I started reaching out to 69 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:40.399 some of the remote viewers that are in the Stargate project, 70 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:45.439 like Lim Buchanan Angela Ford, which are both in the 71 00:04:45.480 --> 00:04:49.519 movie along with Dale Graf. He wasn't a remote viewer, 72 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:54.360 but he was the operations manager and director of the 73 00:04:54.360 --> 00:04:58.439 Stargate Remote Viewing Unit. But it was really important for 74 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:01.399 me to nail down that history because there's never really 75 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:06.560 been a comprehensive history of the program. It's you know, 76 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:09.040 people have an idea of how it started. I mean, 77 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:13.720 even if you look it up on Google or on Wikipedia, 78 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:15.839 it's just all over the place. You can't make sense 79 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:18.839 of it. It's just there's so much going on between 80 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:22.600 the name changes and transferring from the DIA to Army Intelligence, 81 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:24.800 from Army Intelligence back to the IA. So it was 82 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:29.480 really a big puzzle that I had to unravel, and 83 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:34.160 I think that I did a really good job in 84 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:37.360 doing that. I mean, of course people let me know, 85 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:41.279 but the people that are in the movie, the actual 86 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:45.160 remote viewers, and they haven't corrected me on anything or 87 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:48.399 said no that didn't happen or whatever. So I'm guessing 88 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:51.160 that I got it all right, and it's all according 89 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:57.399 to declassified unclassified documents, and we also showed the documents 90 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:01.759 as I'm talking about it. Well, that's kind of where 91 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:07.120 I really began. I've really been collecting information and data 92 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:12.839 and talking with people on my show and getting bureau 93 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:17.120 footage for a really long time on this, probably around 94 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:19.120 three to four years. Yeah. 95 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:21.360 Man, Well, like I said, you had a great history 96 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:26.519 of those programs. Maybe we could go through a brief 97 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:31.439 timeline of the series of programs which led to the 98 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:32.360 Gate program. 99 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:41.680 Well, it's a really complicated history, but according to the documents, 100 00:06:41.759 --> 00:06:45.600 it really started when the CIA funded research to SRI 101 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:52.319 in the early seventies and they had many psychics that 102 00:06:52.360 --> 00:06:57.240 they were working with, including pot Price, Ingo Swan. Jury 103 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:02.199 Dollar was in there as well. They kind of rooted 104 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:05.319 him out. They believed that he was a masade agent, 105 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:09.279 so he was no longer able to continue. But again, 106 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:13.160 we were doing studies on this at you know, on 107 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:19.519 parapsychology prior to Sri Duke University in the thirties was 108 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:23.240 a study on indigenous school children in Canada and also 109 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:27.360 within the United States Parapsychology Foundation in New York in 110 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:31.439 the fifties, Mind Science Foundation in the sixties, and many 111 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:38.560 other research institutes and foundations and centers earlier than SRI 112 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:46.000 was doing this. So the CIA was basically funding that, 113 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:50.000 and they were funding research up until seventy five, whenever 114 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:59.480 Pat Price kind of ceremoniously strangely died in a hotel 115 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:05.399 room and which I kind of under the impression that 116 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:08.920 he didn't really die, that he was just taken into 117 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:14.480 a Blacker project, which is kind of the entire basis 118 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:18.240 and the foundation of the movie is, you know, did 119 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:21.680 the program really shut down in ninety five or did 120 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:24.759 it just change and turn into something else? Did they 121 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:30.879 find another use for remote viewing? Was there another thing 122 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:33.799 that they could be using it for other than collection 123 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:38.519 and data collection on foreign targets and you know, getting 124 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:43.399 the Cold War information on what other countries were doing, 125 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:47.279 which turned out to be pretty successful. And then it 126 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:53.120 switched around between Army Intelligence and DA starting in seventy eight, 127 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:56.240 and I went back and forth between them. Programs were opened, 128 00:08:56.679 --> 00:08:59.960 programs were closed, programs were combined, and then it ultimately 129 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:05.200 we landed in the DAS hands in nineteen eighty five. A. 130 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:10.440 Dell Graph was responsible for saving the program at that point, 131 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:13.759 and he became the operations manager in the early nineties 132 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:17.240 and renamed it. It was time to change the code 133 00:09:17.240 --> 00:09:21.679 word again of the program, and he renamed it the Stargate. 134 00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:27.000 So that's just it's way more complicated. Yeah, yeah, than that. 135 00:09:27.159 --> 00:09:30.159 I just give you a really brief overview. But the way, 136 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.159 there's way more to that, and we really get into 137 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:36.159 that in the first hour of the movie. But that's 138 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:39.919 just a really brief overview of. 139 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:46.720 It based on the information that was provided from the 140 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:50.200 people that you have featured in the film, the remote viewers. 141 00:09:51.240 --> 00:09:55.519 Do you think that remote viewing could essentially be seen 142 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:58.879 as the same thing as astral travel or out of 143 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:02.240 body experience? Are they at least linked in some way? 144 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:07.159 Well, according to several of the early remote viewers and 145 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:10.440 also according to Angela Ford, which she says in the 146 00:10:10.519 --> 00:10:13.639 documentary that being outside of your body and having an 147 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:17.600 astral experience, having an out of body experience is the 148 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:22.200 most advanced form of remote viewing and several of the 149 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:25.000 early remote viewers, like Ingo Swan, we talk about being 150 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:27.519 outside of his body a lot whenever he was younger 151 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:32.919 Angela Ford the same exact thing, so it's not required 152 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:35.960 in order to remote view. And that's another thing about 153 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:41.960 it is that it's difficult to control out of body experiences. 154 00:10:42.080 --> 00:10:45.519 For a lot of people, it happens under immense trauma 155 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:51.320 normally whenever they're young, they or you can be at 156 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:54.799 really at any age, you disassociate and you get outside 157 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:57.639 of your body. There's other ways to do it, which 158 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:03.159 is with the Hemi sink Monroe Institute Gateway tapes, which 159 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:05.799 is the Hemi sync process that if you do it 160 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:09.840 long enough then you can essentially get outside of your body. 161 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:16.120 But in Army Intelligence sent a lot of their Army 162 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:19.720 personnel to the monro Institute to study under Robert Monroe 163 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:24.480 on how to possibly get outside of their body to 164 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:27.440 try and see if it would help with remote viewing. 165 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:32.639 But there are several techniques and several ways to get 166 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:37.399 outside of your body. But it is connected in many 167 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:40.759 different ways, not only by name. And it was important 168 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:46.519 to distinguish between all these programs because all the programs 169 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:51.519 have gate and then stargate the remote viewing unit and 170 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:57.840 fort meeting the Gateway project or the Gateway program, which 171 00:11:57.960 --> 00:12:03.440 was the Monroe Institute HEMI SYNC. Then you have the 172 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:08.840 Gate Gifted and Talented Education that was happening in public 173 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:14.200 school with children. So it's easy to really confuse a 174 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:17.879 lot of these and mix them all together and one 175 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:21.039 big stew and stir it up and then think that 176 00:12:21.879 --> 00:12:25.879 you know that the Gate program was the Stargate program, 177 00:12:25.919 --> 00:12:29.320 and that the Gateway program was also the Stargate program, 178 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:32.120 and as the Gate program, So it's like this, it's 179 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:34.960 and I think that they do that on purpose, right. 180 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:37.720 They name a lot of these things very similar names 181 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:41.279 so that it's very difficult to figure it out. Or 182 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:43.919 they'll name some sort of technology, and then when you 183 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:47.960 throw in all the things that's been named Stargate, like 184 00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:52.240 Stargate SG one, like all the movies that are named Stargate, 185 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:54.919 and then whenever you got Trump into office back in 186 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:56.879 office in twenty twenty four, the first thing that he 187 00:12:56.960 --> 00:13:01.879 announced was Stargate AI. So there's a lot of muddying 188 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:06.000 of the waters when it comes to these types of programs, 189 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:08.399 and they do this all the time, Like with looking Glass. 190 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:11.559 I think we've mentioned this before on the show, how 191 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:17.759 Operation looking Glass is actually a nuclear command post in 192 00:13:17.919 --> 00:13:25.639 space that in case nuclear command is destroyed on the ground. 193 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:28.519 Then they have one like a platform in space that 194 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:32.480 they can launch nukes from space. And that's been confused 195 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:35.200 with You know, you got Alice through the looking Glass. 196 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:37.559 You know, you have the looking Glass movie. So whenever 197 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:40.000 you type in looking Glass, you just get all of 198 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:44.039 this other you get movies and TV shows and Alice 199 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:46.519 in Wonderland and everything. So you literally have to type 200 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:51.639 in Operation looking Glass and then you'll get the real programs. 201 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:55.120 So it's a way to disguise a bunch of real 202 00:13:55.240 --> 00:14:00.759 stuff within fiction and within other things that have been 203 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:02.440 named Ye, the same. 204 00:14:02.279 --> 00:14:08.360 Thing you also featured lind Buchanan, another CIA remote viewer. 205 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:11.039 I had him on the show a while back and 206 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:13.559 I asked him the same question you asked in the film, 207 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:16.720 and he gave me pretty much the same response. You 208 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:20.879 asked him if it was essentially possible to harm someone 209 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:25.960 through these remote influencing processes, and he didn't really want 210 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:30.360 to answer the question, but later on he said that 211 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:36.200 people can be remote influenced in certain ways, that certain 212 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:41.200 messages can be implanted into the minds remotely, something along 213 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:48.000 those lines. So that kind of connects as very similar things. 214 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:49.000 In my perspective. 215 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:53.039 Yeah, and that was kind of the goal, is to 216 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:57.360 get to what the program turned into. And that's what 217 00:14:57.480 --> 00:14:59.960 I believe that the program. He didn't want to say it. 218 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:04.600 He alluded to it. He alluded to the fact that 219 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:11.080 there may have possibly been a remote influencing unit ran 220 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:13.919 by the government, but he didn't come out and flat 221 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:17.919 out say it. So, but I am very confident that 222 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:23.559 either before Stargate or after Stargate was closed down, there 223 00:15:23.799 --> 00:15:28.240 was some form of remote influencing unit. I mean, they 224 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:32.159 asked him if he could kill Osama bin Laden with 225 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:33.919 his mind, and he said, yeah, he could do it, 226 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:39.000 but he wouldn't do it right. Yeah, he's Fidel castro Gorbachev, 227 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:42.279 you know all these people. Can you influence him of 228 00:15:42.279 --> 00:15:47.879 the drop communism? You know, it's very I believe. I 229 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:51.480 believe that it's one percent real. And there's actually a 230 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:56.159 document that I briefly showed in the movie. I didn't 231 00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:59.799 show the entire full document because it's actually a really 232 00:15:59.840 --> 00:16:01.720 rare document. A lot of the people that were in 233 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:04.080 the program really don't even have access to it or 234 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:07.639 even know that it exists. But it's a document from 235 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:12.240 ad May that talks about the steps and the process 236 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:15.759 that you go through in order to remote influence people. 237 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:18.399 It has a list of steps. 238 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:22.639 Moving to the Gate program a bit what was done 239 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:26.759 in mk Ultra was discovered in mk Ultra most likely 240 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:33.320 through experimentation on children of intelligence operatives and others that 241 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:39.879 were in that mk Ultra program. They realized that children 242 00:16:39.960 --> 00:16:44.399 were much more open to psychic phenomena, and instead of 243 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:49.759 torturing people's children and taking them or abducting them or 244 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:55.399 using intelligence children, they can have everyday people volunteer their 245 00:16:55.480 --> 00:16:57.840 own kids to go into these programs. 246 00:16:57.919 --> 00:17:03.559 Right, That's exactly right, and you're one percent correct and 247 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:08.319 saying that the mk Ultra programs kind of influenced these 248 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:14.279 programs because we talk about in the Clockwork Shining at 249 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:18.799 Kubric's Odyssey three, which was my prior film, you and 250 00:17:18.920 --> 00:17:24.880 Cameron in Canada developed this program called psychic driving, and 251 00:17:24.920 --> 00:17:28.880 this is when the mk Ultra programs got shuffled into Canada. 252 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:32.680 Some of the sub projects. In order to stay out 253 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:37.319 of the prying eyes of the American people, they just 254 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:43.720 took exported them to other countries and he would do 255 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:48.200 this thing called psychic driving, which was he would essentially 256 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:53.559 drug the individual. He would then traumatize them into deep 257 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:57.160 patterning them, which is getting rid of all rational and 258 00:17:57.200 --> 00:18:01.720 cognitive thought. And then you would bring in a looped 259 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:08.119 audio message with headphones and repeat the same message over 260 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:11.839 and over. This to program them after they've been disassociated, 261 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:18.119 and to program them with a specific message which is 262 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:24.599 basically identical to what people claim has happened to them 263 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:28.160 in the gay program. The Gifted and Talented, not the 264 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:32.480 Stargate program, the gifted and talented public school program where 265 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:35.680 children were taken out of the classroom by a guy 266 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:40.519 that they didn't know in a suit and essentially experimented 267 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:45.640 on every day every week. You know, this is different 268 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:51.359 than a standard test that because some people have tried 269 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:54.279 to say that, oh, this was just standard, everybody went 270 00:18:54.319 --> 00:18:57.519 through this. No, they didn't mean you could have went 271 00:18:57.559 --> 00:19:01.200 through it to a certain extent, like with a president's 272 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:06.039 physical fitness test or the health department coming and giving 273 00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:10.359 you a fluoride mouth rents once every quarter or once 274 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:13.839 every year. But that's not what I'm talking about. This 275 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:20.279 is a different program that happened very frequently, and it 276 00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:23.920 was only for a select group of children that had 277 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:29.200 been deemed to be gifted and talented. And where a 278 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:32.880 lot of the starts was in nineteen fifty eight, when 279 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:36.400 the United States launched its first satellite in the space, 280 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:40.599 called Explorer one in nineteen fifty eight, just a little 281 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:45.759 while after Russia had launched their satellite Sputnech in the space. 282 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:49.759 And a lot of things happened in nineteen fifty eight, 283 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:51.839 just like a lot of things happened in nineteen forty seven. 284 00:19:53.039 --> 00:19:58.400 But nineteen fifty eight was when DARPA was established. NASA 285 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:03.680 was established in nineteen fifty eight. Government first became involved 286 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:08.759 with the public school system in nineteen fifty eight, sponsored 287 00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:15.519 by the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds. The roth Child's is 288 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:19.119 basically how we got a lot of those school books 289 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:21.759 in public school. 290 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:26.680 Gate funded by the government or the Department of Education, 291 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:27.680 do you know offhand? 292 00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:32.119 Many people believe that it was sponsored and funded by 293 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:36.920 the CIA. But the issue with that is it's difficult 294 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:41.960 to find out funding sources. Now there are just straight 295 00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:48.359 up gate schools. Yeah, that's not a special class that 296 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:51.519 you would be pulled out of every day or every 297 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:55.640 week or whatever. It is, like, there are literal just 298 00:20:55.920 --> 00:21:02.799 gifted and talented schools. That's just four children that have 299 00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:10.599 been deemed to be gifted and talented. So here's a 300 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:16.960 really interesting Epstein connection to a lot of this, right 301 00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:23.759 because the Rothschilds are involved, and Epstein basically represented the 302 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:29.279 entire Rothchild family. So when the Rothchilds needed to take 303 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:32.480 over Wall Street, they did it by sending somebody to 304 00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:36.319 New York City to oversee the purchase of mcmellan Inc. 305 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:40.960 Now mcmellan Inc. Was a media company that would later 306 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:46.160 be known and renamed McGraw hill, which McGraw hill is 307 00:21:46.279 --> 00:21:50.880 responsible for most of the elementary school textbooks in America 308 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:54.000 that kids were raised on and taught in public school. 309 00:21:54.359 --> 00:21:58.400 And the person that they sent to do that was 310 00:21:58.519 --> 00:22:06.880 Robert Maxwell, Gasleen Maxwell's dad. Robert Maxwell was working for 311 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:11.720 the Rothschilds. He was like their main guy. And when 312 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:15.920 Maxwell would die on his job because he owed money 313 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:18.519 to Massad and he also owed money to the Rothschild 314 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:20.720 family and the Rothchild family through the Bank of England 315 00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:24.599 connected to the Maxwell running it was basically working for them, 316 00:22:24.680 --> 00:22:28.359 running your corporate black mal schemes throughout the entire world, 317 00:22:28.960 --> 00:22:32.039 funded by Massad and by England. And when he died, 318 00:22:32.480 --> 00:22:39.119 Epstein and Gasleen were to take over his position. Epstein 319 00:22:39.960 --> 00:22:46.759 had just been introduced what six months prior to Robert 320 00:22:46.839 --> 00:22:51.400 Maxwell's death. He was only introduced to Maxwell six months 321 00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:56.720 before he died, right, Epstein was his replacement. So then 322 00:22:56.839 --> 00:23:01.039 after that Epstein and Gasleen would go on to infiltrate 323 00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:05.799 and do everything that Maxwell was doing. And we know 324 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:13.559 this through Alan what's his name, Alan Dershowitz, Epstein's lawyer, 325 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:19.279 had been introduced to Jeffrey Epstein in the early and 326 00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:21.759 there's emails of this and even him talking about it 327 00:23:21.799 --> 00:23:24.319 in the early nineties by Lord and Lady Rothschild. And 328 00:23:24.359 --> 00:23:28.000 there's also an email in Epstein files sent over by 329 00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:31.559 Epstein to Peter Teel saying that, as you know, I 330 00:23:31.680 --> 00:23:36.559 represent and work for the Rothschild family. Right, So we 331 00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:41.759 have the Rothschild's basically funding the educational system in America, 332 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:46.359 and then we have the Rockefeller Foundation funding psychic and 333 00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:50.680 esp research and major universities across the United States. In 334 00:23:50.720 --> 00:23:55.799 the early thirties, at Duke University by psychologist Carl Zender 335 00:23:55.920 --> 00:24:00.519 and along with GB Ryan, they developed this to lepathy 336 00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:05.880 card game, which would go on to test indigenous school 337 00:24:05.960 --> 00:24:10.000 children in Canada as well in the United States, and 338 00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:11.880 this was This is a very real thing. You can 339 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:15.519 google it. It's called the Zender Cards. It's a very 340 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:19.039 real the lepathy card game that a lot of people 341 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:24.160 in the Gate program remember doing as children. They would 342 00:24:24.200 --> 00:24:26.519 essentially set this up and they would, you know, have 343 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:30.920 the all the flash cards face down and the teacher 344 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:35.119 would look at one card and then the would ask 345 00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:39.519 the student what shape is on the card without seeing 346 00:24:39.559 --> 00:24:47.440 the card. Now, so all this stuff is it's connected. 347 00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:51.920 And if you think about how many kids have been 348 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:54.279 through this, how many kids have been through the Gate 349 00:24:54.400 --> 00:25:00.440 program since the sixties, right, And in the seventh these 350 00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:03.920 parents got really upset because they were starting to find 351 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:08.240 out that the school had been you know, taking them 352 00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:10.680 out of the classroom and putting them into this this 353 00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:14.640 special class without their knowledge. They didn't you know, sign 354 00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:16.599 off on end. Then whenever they tried to go to 355 00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:20.160 the school to get their child's school records, that were 356 00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:26.440 denied access to their child's school records. And they and 357 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:29.400 they found out that the reason that they were denied 358 00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:32.200 is because the CIA had access to all of them. 359 00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:36.799 CIA was storing all that had all the record files 360 00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:43.599 on every single child from preschool, all in a giant database. 361 00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:46.240 So they did this thing to try and enact a 362 00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:50.920 law that stripped the CIA of the ability to get 363 00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:55.079 access to the child's school records by enacting this law 364 00:25:55.160 --> 00:26:02.519 called FURPA, and which essentially would give the parents back 365 00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:07.319 the access to their child school records. But the CIA 366 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:12.000 slipped an amendment into FURPA which allowed them to continue 367 00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:14.680 to get kids school records. And then they started changing 368 00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:19.599 means of the programs from the standard gate program to 369 00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:24.039 different acronyms that confused everyone. Right, they would change it 370 00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:31.000 to tag talented and gifted focus fostering originality and creativity 371 00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:34.920 and understanding and self awareness. So they started changing all 372 00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:38.359 of the names of the programs and so that they 373 00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:42.319 could still get access to the disguising it so they 374 00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:45.039 could still get access to the child school records. 375 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:51.839 Cias masters of rebranding. As it relates to my limited 376 00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:58.279 experience with gifted and talented, going back to the recruiting methods, 377 00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:03.680 I was initially tested and I must have failed miserably 378 00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:06.680 because there was nothing further done with me. As it 379 00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:11.039 relates to gifted and talented, I just remember certain people 380 00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:14.000 coming in one day and giving everyone in my class 381 00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:19.559 the Gate test that would dictate whether or not they 382 00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:23.960 would be inducted into these programs, the after school programs, 383 00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:27.119 whatever else they were doing. But like I said, I 384 00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:30.640 must not have scored high enough, or I just didn't 385 00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.880 give a shit at the time and I intentionally flunked it. 386 00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:39.240 Either way, I was not moved further into the programs. 387 00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:44.240 But it does seem as far as recruitment, they do 388 00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:49.440 attempt a blanket recruitment throughout the school system. Would you 389 00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:50.279 say that's accurate. 390 00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:57.119 Just because you didn't go further into the program doesn't 391 00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:01.680 mean that you weren't used. That doesn't mean that you 392 00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:05.680 weren't programmed to possibly be doing exactly what it is 393 00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:08.759 that you're doing right now. It's a possibility. I'm not saying. 394 00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.640 I'm not saying that that's true, right right, I'm just 395 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:15.880 saying that it's a possibility. They would use people that 396 00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:20.960 you would think would have no reason to be used. 397 00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:24.000 And that gets to the heart of the entire program. 398 00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:27.880 It does. It really does, because they could be looking 399 00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:36.759 for anyone, not just to put into politics, not just 400 00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:41.680 to put into high positions of power, not just the 401 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:44.960 editor at the New York Times, not just you know, 402 00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:51.319 the an entertainer, but they can be literally looking for 403 00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:55.400 anyone and everyone to fulfill an agenda in the future 404 00:28:55.519 --> 00:29:00.440 and program them to then fulfill that agenda, and you 405 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:03.960 wouldn't even know that would be the entire goal of 406 00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:10.359 the program is to subtly and covertly convince people that 407 00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:15.359 everything that happened in their life is organic when it wasn't, 408 00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.640 and it all happened for a reason because they were 409 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:23.039 pushing you in that direction of where they wanted you 410 00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:26.519 to go and to serve out their agenda. And I'm 411 00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:30.640 not saying that everyone that has happened too, but I 412 00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:34.240 do believe that they are. They're looking for the next 413 00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:37.799 Greta Thomberg too, you know what I mean, These people 414 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:40.400 that just kind of pop up out of nowhere, like 415 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:46.279 musicians and bands that get really famous, really really quickly, 416 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:50.640 you know what I mean, Like something doesn't seem right normally, 417 00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:53.839 whenever you start something, you've got to start from the bottom, 418 00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:56.880 you know what I mean. Definitely when it comes to music. 419 00:29:57.039 --> 00:30:00.200 You were a musician, you know what that's like. To 420 00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:02.960 go around the bars, you got to play shows locally. 421 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:05.000 You got to start from the bottom. Just like me 422 00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:08.000 and you both did this show. We both started this show. 423 00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:12.240 Our shows are shows, respectively from the very bottom. I 424 00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:16.559 started my entire show with zero subscribers. 425 00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:17.000 Right, you know. 426 00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:24.000 But there are people that feel like they just automatically 427 00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:28.680 have everything that they need right, everything that they want right, 428 00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:35.759 and it feels very inorganic, like that they were essentially 429 00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:41.160 recruited for that purpose, you know, they were brought in 430 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:46.039 the fold for that purpose, like to be the next 431 00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:51.359 big online social media star. And that's that's just an 432 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:55.920 example of it. But it goes into every I was 433 00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:57.920 just putting it in a way that people might be 434 00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:01.519 able to understand with the music stuff, but it's for 435 00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:04.559 every part of society. It just doesn't have to be 436 00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:08.359 those things that could be. It could be the freaking mailman, dude. 437 00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:11.039 It could be yeah, well, the post office worker, it 438 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:17.200 could be anybody around you. I believe that they have agents, 439 00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:21.279 whether they know it or not, whether the individual actually 440 00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.799 knows it or not. And that's the biggest part of 441 00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:27.079 the conspiracy, that the conspiracy really is, is that there 442 00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:31.400 is no conspiracy because these people, since they were young, 443 00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:35.440 have been programmed with what it is that they're supposed 444 00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:36.799 to do, So. 445 00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:40.119 That would mean they would most likely have handlers in 446 00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:46.319 their lives that would be watching and possibly influencing certain 447 00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:49.960 decisions that they're making. You also touched on this in 448 00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:53.559 the film with Jay Widner that some of the people 449 00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:57.319 who have been deeply involved with the programs that don't 450 00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:01.240 make it to the higher levels may start to experience 451 00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:06.759 some kind of breakdown, drug problems, depression, things of that nature. 452 00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:10.839 Yeah, I think that a lot of the people that 453 00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:15.079 didn't make it through the program and weren't selected to, 454 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:19.759 you know, have their entire future mapped out for them 455 00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:22.799 to have like a life of the Truman Show, to 456 00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:26.559 be the you know, the head of a multi million 457 00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:30.240 dollar corporation, like you know, Charlie Kirk was, I mean, 458 00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:36.279 Charlie Kirk was literally in a literal gifted program school 459 00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:41.319 at Gate Program School in Palatine, Illinois, called Creative Children's 460 00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:47.839 Academy and was renamed Quest Academy until in nineteen ninety 461 00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:52.079 nine it became known as Quest Academy. Now, this wasn't 462 00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:54.839 just a Gate class. This was you know that you've 463 00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:56.880 taken grade school or middle school or whatever. This was 464 00:32:56.920 --> 00:33:01.359 a literal gifted and talented school dedicated to students that 465 00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:06.160 have been gifted and talented all of the children inside 466 00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:09.920 of the school and it's like preschool or kindergarten. You 467 00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:12.200 can literally just get on the website if you wanted 468 00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.480 to look at it. It's called Quest School in Illinois 469 00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:20.119 in Palatine, Illinois, and you can read through the website 470 00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.000 and all the things that they offer. And it's really 471 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:26.599 interesting because it says that we create opportunities for children 472 00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:31.559 in and out of the classroom. Okay, that wording is 473 00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:37.279 really important. We create opportunities for children inside of the 474 00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:39.839 classroom and outside of the classroom. Well, what does that 475 00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:43.039 actually mean? Does that mean that? Does that sound like 476 00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:46.880 a multi billion dollar corporation? Does that sound like that 477 00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:48.720 you're going to be taken care of once you make 478 00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:53.839 it through this program. It sounds like that whenever you 479 00:33:53.920 --> 00:34:01.319 graduate this gifted school that you're going to be basically 480 00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:04.039 given whatever it is that they want you to do. 481 00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:06.440 As long as you do what they want you to do, 482 00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:09.840 then you're going to be successful in that thing because 483 00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:14.000 they're going to create all of the opportunities for you 484 00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:14.559 to do that. 485 00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:20.920 Let's get into some of the stranger operations that may 486 00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:25.039 have been going on within the Gate program. You mentioned 487 00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:29.760 that they are most likely recruiting for any position on 488 00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:35.480 the planet. Really, that would also include top secret positions, 489 00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:41.320 things that most people don't even know are in operation assassins, 490 00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:43.000 psychic spies. 491 00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:49.400 Yeah, there's many three letter organizations that that exists that 492 00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:54.320 we don't know about. But they are public three letter organizations. 493 00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:58.199 We just don't know what their abbreviations are, so it's 494 00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:02.280 hard hard for us to find out about them. But 495 00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:05.320 if you were to look up like the Missile Intelligence Agency, 496 00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:07.480 for instance, if you were to google the Missile Intelligence 497 00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:13.159 what does the Missile Intelligence Agency do? Just type that 498 00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:17.000 into Google and it would say the Missile Intelligence Agency 499 00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:20.559 is responsible for missile analysis and blah blah blah blah 500 00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:24.760 blah blah blah and the creation of directed energy weapons. 501 00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:28.840 Well that's what that's what the Missile Intelligence Agency does, right. 502 00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:33.119 So it's like, uh, there are many There are more 503 00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:35.639 militaries than the ones that we are familiar with. There 504 00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.360 are more three letter organizations and the ones that we 505 00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:43.239 are familiar with, and they all operate and run. I mean, 506 00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:47.719 if you look at the Danny Castlero case in the 507 00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:49.760 Octopus murders, I don't know if you're familiar with that. 508 00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:56.880 He was basically trying to uncover this this giant secret 509 00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:02.480 CIA undercover branch of the intelligence community, and he found 510 00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:06.119 out that they were basically running their operations off of 511 00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:12.800 Native American reservations, and they were doing human trafficking, guns trafficking, drugs, 512 00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:16.920 trafficking because it was not considered to be UH and 513 00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:19.360 they were fund funneling the money and laundering the money 514 00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:25.079 through the casinos. So there there are. Then he was 515 00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:32.639 inexplicably murdered in a hotel room in West Virginia. And 516 00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:37.440 that's another thing about these gay programs is that, you know, 517 00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:40.679 if you can get all of the smartest and brightest 518 00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:44.280 minds working for you and working for the government, then 519 00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:47.440 that means that you're not going to have any competition 520 00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:50.599 in the independent sector because you're going to have all 521 00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:52.440 of those people working for you. You're going to have 522 00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:58.480 them working for your company, your corporation, your military, your 523 00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:02.039 three letter organization. So any good ideas that they might 524 00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:09.119 have is a product of the government or a large corporation. Right, 525 00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:16.199 It's like taking a guy from uh, you don't know, 526 00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:19.519 an it guy from India. Right, that might sound like 527 00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:26.079 a really you know thing like Indian guys are super smart. 528 00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:29.719 But just for an example, some smart dude from another country, right, 529 00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:32.480 and then you have them come to your country and 530 00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:35.440 work work for them. Well, the reason that you would 531 00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:39.599 do that is because that guy is never going to 532 00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:44.760 become the CEO of that company, he's never going to 533 00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:49.280 run that company. But having him not work for your 534 00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.840 company runs the risk of him creating his own company 535 00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:58.599 independently of yours. So if you can get everybody under 536 00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:04.719 the banner of your institution, your government, you're through that organization, 537 00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:09.400 you're military, then you've essentially put a lid on what 538 00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:13.280 anybody can achieve and what anybody can do. And this 539 00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:18.199 is a big reason why nothing really changes in our reality. 540 00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:23.159 Nothing is able to improve our way of life. The 541 00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:27.960 only thing that seems to change is our technology, right 542 00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:30.360 and the way that we communicate. Nothing else really changes. 543 00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:33.199 We're using the same boats, the same trains, the same refrigerators, 544 00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:37.199 the same shit that we've been using for decades. Nothing 545 00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:41.840 has changed. It's all the same, you know. And the 546 00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:45.800 reason for that is because the smartest and brightest people 547 00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:49.400 that could possibly do something in our reality has been 548 00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:54.840 engulfed into the military industrial complex, or the through that 549 00:38:55.079 --> 00:39:00.880 organizations or some big corporation to where they're ideas get 550 00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:05.440 stifled or their ideas are used for somebody else instead 551 00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:08.960 of them going out and creating their own technology and 552 00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:11.519 creating their own corporation and resident like that. And the 553 00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:14.480 ones that do slip through the cracks that might actually 554 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.719 figure out something that would revolutionize our way of life 555 00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:22.440 is then murdered, killed, assassinated, or their patents are completely 556 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:24.920 buried under the National Secrecy Act. 557 00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:31.199 Nothing beneficial for humanity allowed exactly. You also featured Walter 558 00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:35.599 Bosley and Katie Page who were in the Gate programs, 559 00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:42.519 and they discussed some interesting experiences which may indicate connections 560 00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:46.360 with what we were just talking about trying to find 561 00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:50.559 out if people have certain abilities. Some of the things 562 00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:55.239 that stood out for me were the hearing tests. Walter 563 00:39:56.440 --> 00:40:00.760 speculated that maybe there may be some hidden tones in 564 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:04.360 there that they were trying to see if some of 565 00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:07.199 the children could pick up on something like that. 566 00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:15.119 Yeah, it's been reported that possibly the tones were to identify, 567 00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:20.360 like there would be low infrequency tones that most the 568 00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:23.920 human ear couldn't possibly pick up, some people could, and 569 00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:29.880 maybe that's all that the headphones could have been. It 570 00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:34.039 could have been like this low and frequency tone that 571 00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:38.599 regular people cannot hear that's being pumped through the headphones, 572 00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:40.519 and then they tell you to raise your hand if 573 00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:42.960 you can hear it. And then if you've raised your 574 00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:44.800 hand that you could hear it, then you were then 575 00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:49.079 pulled out right, You were then identified, you were then 576 00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:54.440 tagged like this individual can hear this on a different 577 00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:57.920 spectrum than all the other people. The rest of the 578 00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:01.679 people that aren't raising their hand can't hear this frequency. 579 00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:07.719 That's a possibility. Yeah. The other possibility is that this 580 00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:11.360 was to induce some sort of out of body experience, 581 00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:14.679 because how a lot of people remembered a lot of 582 00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:19.599 these programs were listening to the Monroe Institute Gateway tapes. 583 00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:21.880 You know, you should be hearing my voice in your 584 00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:23.840 right ear. If you're not hearing my voice in your 585 00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:28.480 right ear, then switch your headphones around. And when they 586 00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:31.880 heard that, they kind of got triggered by hearing that, 587 00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:35.159 and then all these other memories from when they were 588 00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:39.280 in school came flooding back to them and they suddenly 589 00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:42.840 remembered all this other stuff. So it's a high possibility 590 00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:46.599 that it is the Monroe Institute Gateway tapes and that 591 00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:50.480 they're trying to induce an out of body experience. They're 592 00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:54.400 being given a strange and weird substance. They're told to 593 00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:58.480 put headphones on. Sometimes they were told to put goggles 594 00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:02.960 on three D glasses, which there is a lot of 595 00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:07.480 you know, truth to those types of programs as well. 596 00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:14.320 There's this project that was called Ames Leaf Room, which 597 00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:18.920 was ran by doctor Ames, which he created this room 598 00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:22.760 which was this was funded by the Office of Naval 599 00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:25.840 Research right where he would take a bunch of college students, 600 00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:29.159 put him into this room that had leaves all over 601 00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:31.960 the walls, and he would dose them with LSD and 602 00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:34.960 then put goggles on their head and they would go 603 00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:39.119 into a weird, trippy psychosis and they would end up 604 00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:42.960 in the er. And then there's other programs that was 605 00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:47.159 called the Gonsfeld Experiment g A n Z F E 606 00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:54.320 l D, and this was to induce and unlock your 607 00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:58.599 psychic abilities, essentially make you see things that aren't there. 608 00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:02.039 Some call them hallucinations. I don't know how you know 609 00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:06.519 truthful that is. I don't know if anything is really 610 00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:12.320 a hallucination. But you can do this yourself by cutting 611 00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:14.280 a pink pong ball in half, taping it to your 612 00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:16.559 eyeballs and then shining a bright red light on your 613 00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:20.840 face and then open your eyes and look through the 614 00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:24.960 ping pong balls, and people that have done this for 615 00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:30.159 a long period of time end up seeing things that 616 00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:34.679 aren't that they wouldn't be able to see under normal circumstances. 617 00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:39.480 So that's a very real one. Dean Raidan, which was 618 00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:43.239 on Joe Rogan recently, was involved with this experiment in 619 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:47.920 creating this experiment, and he also talked about how children 620 00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:50.840 are more psychic than other people, which we also prove 621 00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:53.719 in the documentary. Within the first ten minutes we show 622 00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:58.280 the doctor jb Ryan stuff with this undercards and the 623 00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:02.679 conclusion of those experiments where the children were more psychic 624 00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:04.880 than teenagers and adults. 625 00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:13.880 This may even have connections with ufology essentially. I've heard 626 00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:18.599 from others that some of the training that people may 627 00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:22.519 have experienced during the Gate program may have been linked 628 00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:29.559 to piloting UFOs or reverse engineered craft or alien craft, 629 00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:30.679 whatever you want to call it. 630 00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:39.199 I haven't heard anybody specifically talk about that with children yet, 631 00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:41.679 but if you do know someone, let's talk about that. 632 00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:44.159 That would be very fascinating. I do believe that that 633 00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:48.920 is going to be a something that's going to come 634 00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:50.880 out in the future. If it hasn't already come out, 635 00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:52.960 maybe it has, and I just don't know about it. 636 00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:56.719 But I know it has with certain adults that were 637 00:44:56.760 --> 00:45:01.480 in the military that were brought to SPECI training programs 638 00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:04.239 were initially they had no idea what they're doing, and 639 00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:07.880 eventually they found out that they were piloting craft with 640 00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:10.800 their mind. And I don't see why they wouldn't apply 641 00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:14.519 this to those other programs. 642 00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:20.599 Yes, I have heard that with adults, and I do 643 00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:25.000 believe that that is something that is going to come 644 00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:27.800 out about children as well, and that might have been 645 00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:30.880 a big reason for some of the people in the 646 00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:32.920 gay program. And I think that the gay program is 647 00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:36.000 connected to that, and I do believe that at some 648 00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:40.639 point soon that is going to come out in the future, 649 00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:44.920 that these children were being prepared in a groom to 650 00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:48.119 pilot craft with their mind. 651 00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:54.000 Also linked to this, possibly, Katie Page gave some interesting 652 00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:58.280 testimony about how she was taken to a separate location 653 00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:03.800 hooked up to these io feedback machines. But the person 654 00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:10.519 linked with those particular experiments worked at Area fifty one, 655 00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:11.440 Is that correct? 656 00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:15.679 Yeah, Thomas A. Shbadinsky. He worked at Area fifty one. 657 00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:20.239 He was a navigational engineer for the SR seventy one Blackbird, 658 00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:26.440 and then somehow got into biofeedback, which I believed was 659 00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:31.719 a precursor to, or very similar in the least to 660 00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:38.440 the Monroe Institute Gateway tapes, in the fact that the 661 00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:41.760 Twilight Learner tapes that Katie Page shows in the documentary 662 00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:46.800 do the same have the same effect as the Monroe 663 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:50.960 Institute Gateway tapes. They do the same thing. They induce 664 00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:54.360 an out of body experience. And if you were to 665 00:46:54.440 --> 00:47:02.000 read through the Gateway Project Gateway Monroe Institute CIA documents, 666 00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:07.039 it'll stay in there that biofeedback is important in understanding 667 00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.360 on how to get outside of your body. So they 668 00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:14.079 are connected. But yes, we show a clip of a 669 00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:19.559 kid in the Twilight Learner biofeedback program where they hook 670 00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.360 him up to the monitors and everything in his head, 671 00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:26.199 and then the the person speaking in it was like, 672 00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:32.679 can we're gonna launch the rocket? Can you launch the rocket? 673 00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:38.039 Make the rocket go up? So it's like, how was this? 674 00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:40.239 This guy was working at Area fifty one as a 675 00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:45.360 navigational engineer for the SR seventy one blackbird and now 676 00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:51.079 he is using the same reference as a rocket going 677 00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:54.679 off for a choice. It seems like there's something more 678 00:47:55.639 --> 00:48:00.920 to that that they were trying to cite. Kickley hooked 679 00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:05.360 this kid up to something something else. 680 00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:11.000 Have you at all looked into modern Gate programs, how 681 00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:16.400 they've advanced over the years, how they're utilizing technology modern 682 00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:19.079 technology within the programs. 683 00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:22.360 I find several people reach out to me about that 684 00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:26.559 their kid is currently in the Gate program. And someone 685 00:48:26.599 --> 00:48:29.760 that I really trust told me that his daughter is 686 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:34.239 currently in a program in public school, or was currently 687 00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:37.079 in a program she no longer is. He took her 688 00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:41.000 out of public school, but that she came home and 689 00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:45.480 told him that that every day an suv would pull 690 00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:47.880 up to the school and her and a few other 691 00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:50.760 kids would get inside of the suv and go on 692 00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:55.559 field trips every single day without his knowledge. He didn't 693 00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:59.760 sign off on it. This isn't a normal field trip. 694 00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:02.599 The field trip in public school, the parent normally signs 695 00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:06.280 off on the field trip because they need to know 696 00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:10.960 where their child's going, right, this wasn't something that the 697 00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:13.599 parent was aware of. And then she also explained to 698 00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:18.440 him that's crazy. At night, she would be woken up 699 00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:20.960 in the middle of the night at around three AM, 700 00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:24.119 a group of kids that would come and get her 701 00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:26.360 out of bed and then they would go outside to 702 00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:27.039 like some. 703 00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:31.360 Like night How old was she again, very young? 704 00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:39.960 I think roughly around six seven eight, Yeah, damn. And 705 00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:44.760 then when you look at the alien and the extraterrestrial, 706 00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:50.800 the possible extraterrestrial connection, which we have Whitley Strieber that 707 00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:56.199 wrote a book in nineteen ninety seven called The Secret School, 708 00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:03.119 which was almost identical to the thing that I just 709 00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:05.840 explained about the gentleman telling me that a child is 710 00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:07.199 woken up in the middle of the night and they 711 00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:09.119 all go out and do like some kind of night school. 712 00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:14.559 It's called the Secret School preparation for contact, and Willy 713 00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:19.880 Stroeper kind of equated this to being prepared for extra 714 00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:24.400 trustural contact, which you know how I feel about extra treusture. Yeah. Yeah, 715 00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:31.840 it's just very coincidental that, I mean, how could a 716 00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:35.480 seven year old know about Willy Streeper and read his 717 00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:38.679 freaking book, you know what I mean. So it's like, 718 00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:42.719 it's very interesting that you have those two connections there, 719 00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:45.840 and that she was saying and he immediately pulled her 720 00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:49.000 out of public school after she told him this. 721 00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:55.039 There's a phenomena that people are discussing recently either Mall World. 722 00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:59.599 There are people going to astral classrooms in their sleep. 723 00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:06.039 Some people are connecting this with Gate Program activities. Would 724 00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:10.280 you connect those things together? People having these weird astral 725 00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:11.800 classroom experiences. 726 00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:17.679 It is very interesting. I don't know how connected it 727 00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:20.519 is to the Gate program. I mean, people have claimed 728 00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:23.199 that it is connected to the Gate Program in some 729 00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:27.000 sort of weird way. I mean, during my interview with 730 00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:30.920 I think that Walter even brings it up. I don't 731 00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:33.079 think that I cut it out of the movie where 732 00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:39.519 he says that the Monroe Institute Gateway tapes could have 733 00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:42.400 been what he heard in public school and that could 734 00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:47.840 explain his weird dreams in his daydreams and stuff like that. 735 00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:51.320 I do find the Mall World stuff really interesting in 736 00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:57.519 how that a group of people could essentially have the 737 00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:00.639 exact same dream every single night, see exact. I mean, 738 00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:05.199 people have made maps. A giant wrote down giant maps 739 00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:09.280 of like male World. I find it very fascinating. And 740 00:52:11.159 --> 00:52:17.079 sometimes I've heard allegedly that it doesn't even have to 741 00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:19.920 be like for some people, it didn't even start out 742 00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:25.400 as mole World. It started out with them being with 743 00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:31.679 a group of people that they've never met in real life, 744 00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:38.599 Like they were these dream astral people that they would 745 00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:42.440 dream about every night throughout childhood, and they essentially grew 746 00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:47.599 up with these people in the astral and then at 747 00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:50.760 some point they were kind of cut off whenever they 748 00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:57.360 got to a certain age. And now they're back and 749 00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:00.360 they're all older. They've never met in real life life, 750 00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:05.199 they've only met in the dream astral realm, and now 751 00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:08.960 they're meeting up in this mall. I've heard stories like 752 00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:13.800 that allegedly. You know what, Yah, Sorry to verify the 753 00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:18.679 dream the dream realm, Chris, but yeah, I do find 754 00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:22.320 it very interesting in how it may or may not 755 00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:27.360 be connected to Gate is debatable and up for interpretation. 756 00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:33.559 Do you think that the use of Satanic ritual abuse 757 00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:39.440 within MK ultra programs was more of just a psychological 758 00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:46.400 tool rather than taken as a serious spiritual belief system. 759 00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:51.440 I think that whenever you believe in something, the ritual 760 00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:56.360 aspect of it sometimes solidifies it in your mind, Like 761 00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:59.679 the entity doesn't necessarily have to be real, the thing 762 00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:01.800 that you're worshiping doesn't have to be real. But if 763 00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:06.519 you make it real by doing some sort of ritual, 764 00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:10.280 if you think or believe that you're summoning some sort 765 00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:15.280 of demon, or you're doing a blood animal sacrifice to 766 00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:19.239 summon some sort of demon, or even you know, more nefarious, 767 00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:28.679 some form of actual sacrifice that's not an animal, then 768 00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:32.599 it becomes real. It becomes real for you. And I 769 00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:36.639 think that that is part of the ritual process. That 770 00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:41.159 doesn't mean that is necessarily negative, but I do believe 771 00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:48.239 that people within the MK ultra programs were programmed with 772 00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:54.239 that type of reality, right, so it makes it harder 773 00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:57.440 for them to really understand what's going on because they've 774 00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:02.559 had a lot of these other memories implanted into their mind, 775 00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:11.760 such as you know, Satan and Lucifer and Satanic things, 776 00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:19.119 even sometimes reptilian entities in a lot of different ways. 777 00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:22.800 They've been programmed with that, so it makes it harder 778 00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:26.719 for them to really understand what had happened to them, 779 00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:30.199 because then they have to filter through all of the 780 00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:34.039 nonsense and the projections that were essentially projected onto them. 781 00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:39.840 Last few minutes, last time you were on, we discussed 782 00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:44.639 your research into what's happening with the Charlie Kirk assassination 783 00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:49.440 the Tyler Robinson trial. Since we spoke a few weeks ago, 784 00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:53.800 do you have any updates with anything that you've been observing. 785 00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:59.760 Well, Canvas Ows literally released the photo that was taken 786 00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:05.920 on campus that is one hundred times better looking the 787 00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:10.079 footage or the photos that were shown during the preliminary hearing. 788 00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:15.480 It's not actually clear and you can identify the person 789 00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:18.079 in the image is not Tyler Robinson. It looks nothing 790 00:56:18.199 --> 00:56:21.800 like which is what everybody has been saying from the 791 00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:24.440 very beginning that the person in the footage is not 792 00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:29.320 Tyler Robinson. Right. So, I think that is a really 793 00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:33.559 big deal and it is really important for the future, 794 00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:37.719 and I'm really looking forward to what else comes out 795 00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:41.199 about it. And you know, Charlie Kirk beginning the Gate Program. 796 00:56:41.519 --> 00:56:43.960 I mean, I have it in the in the documentary. 797 00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:48.719 It's truly important because I think that Charlie was, you know, 798 00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:51.719 wising up toward it, toward the end that maybe his 799 00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:58.000 entire you know, life was pre arranged for him, you know, 800 00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:00.400 and he was starting to wise up that and they 801 00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:02.840 were like, oh man, we can't have this guy, you know, 802 00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:05.679 waking up. It's like, you know, Jim carrying the Truman Show. 803 00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:09.800 We can't let him escape the Truman Show because we're 804 00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:13.880 making too much money, No, making too much money off 805 00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:17.440 of this show that we're doing for everybody's entertainment, that 806 00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:19.639 we can't let him escape this. 807 00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:23.199 You know, do you think it's possible for them not 808 00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:29.920 to convict Tyler Robinson after all the evidence comes out. 809 00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:36.559 I think that it's getting it's getting harder and harder 810 00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:43.039 with the public, the public's perception of it. It's becoming 811 00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:48.639 harder and harder to convince people that it would like 812 00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:52.119 the everyday public, that it was Tyler Robinson. But we 813 00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:54.639 know how the core system is set up. It's rigged. 814 00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:58.360 You know, they got their agenda. They're going to push 815 00:57:58.440 --> 00:58:02.639 forward no matter what. It doesn't matter what the public says. 816 00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:07.079 The public could be completely right, they won't listen. The 817 00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:10.320 public can be completely wrong and they will listen, you 818 00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:12.440 know what I mean. It's like, what do you mean? 819 00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:19.519 But I think they're going to still go full steam ahead. 820 00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:24.920 And I don't know exactly what's going to happen, but 821 00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:27.079 I know that it's going to be strung out for 822 00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:29.880 a really long time. It's not going to be something 823 00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:33.440 that the case is going to be closed really quickly. 824 00:58:33.480 --> 00:58:38.079 It's a very convoluted case. It's much like the you know, 825 00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:43.639 the Stargate Unit, where there's things happening all over the 826 00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:46.920 place and it's hard to really understand everything that's going on, 827 00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:50.000 and new information is coming out every single day about 828 00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:52.960 the Charlie Kirk assassination, and it's just a lot to 829 00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:55.320 really take on. It's a lot to remember, just like 830 00:58:55.360 --> 00:58:58.920 it's a lot to remember all of this psychic spy stuff. 831 00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:01.920 And there was a there was a point, Chris, when 832 00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:03.760 I was making the movie that I was just I 833 00:59:03.800 --> 00:59:06.760 just had to stop doing research for it. I was like, Bro, 834 00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:09.800 this has got a basement, this has got a back 835 00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:12.199 door to the basement, and that backdoor to the basement's 836 00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:14.599 got a freaking trap door, dude. And I was like, 837 00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:18.599 this thing could go on forever and not even get 838 00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:20.119 to the bottom of it. And at a point I 839 00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:24.119 was like, I just got to stop, or I'm just 840 00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:26.599 going to get so overwhelmed that nothing is ever going 841 00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:30.280 to get done. So I stopped where I thought I 842 00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:35.519 had everything really under control. So thanks for having me on, 843 00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:39.599 Chris really appreciated. Please check out my documentary on Amazon 844 00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:43.719 Prime Psychic Agent, The Gate Program. Check out my show 845 00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:47.880 on YouTube, Raised by a Giant City and all podcast platforms, 846 00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:50.440 and on the Forbidden Knowledge News Network. And you can 847 00:59:50.440 --> 00:59:54.280 also purchase a DVD copy of my movie. If you 848 00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:58.800 don't like using Amazon or you just want a physical copy, 849 00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:03.079 you can grab Psyche Aage and The Gay Program on DVD. 850 01:00:03.559 --> 01:00:06.920 That's only if you live in the United States. I 851 01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:09.960 cannot ship these outside of the United States. It costs 852 01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:12.480 too much money. I might be able to get one 853 01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:14.800 to Canada might be cheaper, but someone tried to order 854 01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:17.079 one from the UK and it costs just as much 855 01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:19.199 as I was asking for the DVD as it was 856 01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:21.719 to ship it. So unless you want to send me 857 01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:24.559 double the amount that I'm asking, then I can't ship 858 01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:27.199 it outside of the United States. But if you are 859 01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:29.239 in the United States and you want a DVD copy, 860 01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:32.599 send me an email. Out raised by giants at outlook 861 01:00:32.679 --> 01:00:35.639 dot com. Hope everyone enjoyed it. Thanks for having me on, Chris. 862 01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.880 Thank you brother, great job with the film. I'll have 863 01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:42.760 the link easily accessible for everyone in the description. We'll 864 01:00:42.760 --> 01:00:45.519 be doing this again until next time. Everyone, have an 865 01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:47.800 excellent evening. We'll talk again tomorrow.