WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:01.360 Welcome to Big for Society. 2 00:00:01.399 --> 00:00:04.280 If you have bigfoot activity to report from the same 3 00:00:04.360 --> 00:00:07.120 areas discussed in this episode, please reach out to me 4 00:00:07.360 --> 00:00:10.320 directly after this episode. And if you'd like to be 5 00:00:10.359 --> 00:00:14.240 on the podcast to discuss a personal bigfoot encounter, please 6 00:00:14.279 --> 00:00:17.079 reach out to me directly at Bigfoot Society at gmail 7 00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:19.120 dot com. Do you wish there was more Big for 8 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:20.879 Society to listen to you every week? 9 00:00:21.039 --> 00:00:21.679 There is now. 10 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:24.320 If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you 11 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:28.559 get a special members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, 12 00:00:29.399 --> 00:00:33.280 and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon 13 00:00:33.280 --> 00:00:36.079 dot com. Forward slash the Big for Society and now 14 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:40.039 let's get on with the show. All right, Big for Society, 15 00:00:40.039 --> 00:00:43.200 You've got the privilege of talking to Ghee Bouchet from 16 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:46.679 out there in the Pacific Northwest. Gee has been bigfooting 17 00:00:46.719 --> 00:00:50.479 for thirteen years. Out there, he's interviewed dozens of credible 18 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:53.799 witnesses as a member of the BFRO, and he seeks 19 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:57.000 a greater understanding of the mystery of sasquatch. So it's 20 00:00:57.000 --> 00:00:59.119 a pleasure to have you on the show today. 21 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:03.679 Gee. Hey, sure, am I How you doing doing great? Man? 22 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:07.200 I was just editing some video I took out in Oakridge, Oregon, 23 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:09.439 in the Willamette National Forest, and I'm like, man, I 24 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:12.480 gotta get back out there. It's just you guys got 25 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:13.200 a good out there. 26 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:17.760 Those are beautiful mountains. Yeah. I always try and get 27 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:19.519 out as much as I can. That's got to take 28 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:21.200 advantage of it when you live in the Northwest. 29 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:26.400 Absolutely, I agree. I would, man, I probably wouldn't really 30 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:29.480 be at home. But gee, we were talking before the 31 00:01:29.519 --> 00:01:33.040 show started, and I think it would be great if 32 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:37.000 would you mind starting with how you got into this 33 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:38.879 whole subject of Bigfoot to begin with. 34 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:43.120 Yeah, I had always been a person getting out of 35 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:45.480 the mountains ever since I was a kid. I went out. 36 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:47.319 I lived down in California, so i'd go up to 37 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:51.400 Cascade Mountains, but the Asira's a lot and do big 38 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:53.799 backpacking trips, and I was always around a lot of 39 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:56.920 the wildlife there. Down there, we have more of a 40 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:00.319 prominence of bears than we have up here. We will 41 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:04.200 typically see bears at campsites all over the place. You 42 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:06.519 really have to be aware of those guys. So when 43 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:08.280 I first moved up here, I felt like it was 44 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:10.240 a little bit more rugged, less people so I'm going 45 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:12.800 to see bears all the time, and it was something 46 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:14.800 that kind of shocked me. I really didn't see bear 47 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:17.000 prints or scat unless you go up the certain areas 48 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:19.400 of the mountains. It is not a common thing. But 49 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:22.840 I'd carry around bear base just in case to protect 50 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:25.520 my family at the time when I first started going 51 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:27.280 out around here and I was not in the big footing. 52 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:31.680 Around twenty eleven twelve, me and my wife celebrating her 53 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:34.240 birthday with my two daughters, who were five and six, 54 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:37.319 we decided let's go out to war campgrounds out by 55 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:39.199 four XS. We've never been out there before. This would 56 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:41.520 be fun February. It's gonna be cold as hell, but 57 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:44.360 we'll bring tons of blankets and the kids can be 58 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:47.800 bundled up in handwarmers. And at the time the kids, 59 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:50.080 we had taken them out since their babies out camping 60 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:53.360 and they were perfectly fine with it. So we picked 61 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:55.759 a spot. It was the and you can find this 62 00:02:55.840 --> 00:02:59.120 spot at Wurra Campgrounds. They have the whole campground shut 63 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:02.080 down except for one area that was by the river, 64 00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:06.080 and we picked a spot that was the most southwestern 65 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:10.560 point in that location that you could camp and all 66 00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:12.879 day long. We're having fun. I like having beers. I'm 67 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:15.360 having beers and the kids are playing around. Me and 68 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:18.000 my wife are taking them for bicycle rides and everything else. 69 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:20.680 And We've got a box sitting there on the ground. 70 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:23.639 And I'm thinking from the time I've been up here 71 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:27.120 that I'm not seeing any beer tracks bears. It's winter time. 72 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:29.639 They've got to be hibernating. There's gonna be nothing around. 73 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:32.719 It's gonna bess with recyclables at all. So kept him 74 00:03:32.759 --> 00:03:35.800 in a box, and around eleven thirty, we have the 75 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:37.879 girls tucked in already and me and my wife were done. 76 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:40.879 We're ready to tuck in with and playing cards and 77 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:44.960 games and things. And we tucked in and we got 78 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:47.719 in the tent and we were flanking our girls and 79 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:50.199 either side with beer and mace, just to be safe again, 80 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:53.599 keeping our kids safe. And we were laying there and 81 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:58.520 we heard our recycling box tip upside down and just 82 00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:02.159 dump on the ground. It was a good sound, whatever 83 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:04.520 it was. And at the time, we're thinking, whatever it was, 84 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:07.879 it drugged about twenty feet and just dump the recycles out. 85 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:11.080 We had two coolers out there that could easily be open. 86 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:13.800 They weren't yety coolers and they had everything in them. 87 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:17.480 They had beerd drinks for the kids. They had salami, bacon, eggs, 88 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:19.319 all the kind of food you can imagine you need 89 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:22.959 for several days camping. And we thought, oh great, there's 90 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:25.279 a Why is there a bear up right now? There's 91 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:27.279 a bear out there getting to her stuff. And it 92 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:30.519 actually walked past our tent on my wife's side, and 93 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:33.120 it was some very heavy feet and it brushed against 94 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:34.639 the tent. My wife looked at me in big eyes, 95 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:36.399 and I put my finger in front of my mouth 96 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:38.040 and I said, it does anything. But I just made 97 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:40.240 a motion like don't don't move, don't make a sound, 98 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:43.399 stay quiet, don't move. And the girls were looking at us, 99 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:45.800 and we're saying to them, don't you know, stay quiet. 100 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:49.639 The thing walked away, apparently, I thought. And we were 101 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:51.600 laying there and I said to my wife, I'm gonna 102 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:54.120 get out, I'm gonna put the coolers away, check see 103 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:57.399 what happened. I've got a spotlight and I'm gonna just 104 00:04:57.480 --> 00:04:59.680 make sure this bear gets out of here. I'm still 105 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:02.160 baff is to Wine February. There is a bear out 106 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:05.759 growing around. But we were in the tent. I got out. 107 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:07.360 My wife said, be careful, and I'm sure all the 108 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:09.759 neighbors really love this. At twelve thirty night, I turned 109 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:13.319 my car alarm on the pair away and I got 110 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:16.160 out with a flashlight at the spotlight and aimed it 111 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:18.480 around in the area, and I said, you get out 112 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:20.879 of your bear. Bad bear. Got out of the tent 113 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:24.000 with the bear mace ready, clean up the recycles, put 114 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:29.040 the material away, locked up the truck, and I heard 115 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:31.279 some movement down in the lagoon below us, where there 116 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:33.800 was a patch of fairly deep water three or four 117 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:36.360 feet deep, muddy on the bottom. I had gone out 118 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:38.800 that day and seen this, and down below there there 119 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:40.920 are also beaver cuts in the ground where the beavers 120 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:43.000 can hide from the eagles, and I guess it's certain 121 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:46.920 way of escaping. But that space down there had mud here, 122 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:49.480 and there patches of mud beaver cuts everywhere in a 123 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:52.399 lagoon right below us, by about fifty feet away. And 124 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:54.839 so I shined the light down there. I said, get 125 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:57.319 away from your bad bear. This's just the only bad bear. 126 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:00.399 I got back in the tent told my if, hey, 127 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.839 it's got to be okay. Now we're fine. That's no 128 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:07.639 big deal. Bad thing's definitely gone, without a doubt. Scared off, 129 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:10.839 got of the tent. We're laying there. Fifteen minutes later, 130 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:14.120 my wife goes asleep, my youngest daughter goes asleep next 131 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:17.519 to her, and I'm laying there with my oldest daughter. 132 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:20.720 She's still awake, and we hear something from Macaw Indian 133 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:25.000 Reservation about five hundred yards away jumping the Quilliad River 134 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:28.560 and it was a loud splash. I thought, man, that's 135 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:31.959 a big beer or that's a big animal. Wow. And 136 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:34.519 my oldest daughter was laying there's six years old, so 137 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:37.759 she's down. I'm scared. I said, oh, honey, there's a 138 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:40.079 steel head out there right now. There's guys fishing for 139 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:42.720 steelhead here tomorrow morning. There it's just a air it's 140 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:47.720 going for food. About four minutes later, we hear it's 141 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:51.600 getting closer. We hear a big a huge log or 142 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:55.079 something snapped in half and again getting in the water 143 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:57.480 and going across a big puddle. There were a number 144 00:06:57.480 --> 00:07:00.399 of dugouts out there where water and filled up when 145 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:04.399 the tide would come in. I thought, wow, that's getting close. 146 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:06.120 So my daughter was getting scared and said, honey, just 147 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:08.160 go to bed. I'm here. That's we're in a tent. 148 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:11.360 We're totally safe. Don't worry about it. About five minutes later, 149 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:14.360 everybody's asleep and I'm laying there and I hear swishing 150 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:17.000 coming in the water down below. Noted there's a little 151 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:20.279 channel of water. It's not more than six seven inches deep. 152 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:26.079 But something was walking towards our space, and I thought, wow, 153 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:30.399 those are big. That's a big sound. That's something really, 154 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:33.839 that's a very big bear. And it was coming across 155 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:38.040 in the water. And then the craziest thing happened. That 156 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:39.839 one of the craziest things that a big footing has 157 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:42.160 ever happened to me. And this again, I had not 158 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:47.240 really thought about bigfoots as being real. I'd heard about them, 159 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:49.519 I'd camped in the mountains. I'd never seen anything, never 160 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:53.279 had anything happen. A rock the size of a basketball 161 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:57.319 was thrown into the water and you can hear it 162 00:07:57.399 --> 00:07:59.360 hit the water. And then what happens when a big 163 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:01.600 object goes up in the air and splashes down in 164 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:04.680 the middle of it. It was followed by four more 165 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:08.120 big rocks, each one. I mean, you could tell it 166 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:10.920 was thrown in the water. It was it had intention 167 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:13.759 behind it. It was pretty scary because I thought bears 168 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:17.160 don't throw rocks, and there's no way anybody's down there 169 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:20.720 with rocks that big one. You couldn't carry them too. 170 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:22.800 There's no lights down there. There's no light. You could 171 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:24.519 see a light through the tent if somebody was down 172 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:26.839 there with the light. We had not talked to anybody 173 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:30.000 there about bigfooting. We're looking for bigfoots, so why would 174 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.039 anyone want to play a gag on us or something 175 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:37.879 and be doing that down there. Anyways, after about five rocks, 176 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:40.919 and this is something I only learned about years later, 177 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:44.960 and this terrified me what happened because it was something 178 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:46.799 that I had never experienced before in my life. And 179 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:49.279 I've heard other people on your program say you're going 180 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:50.960 to think I'm crazy saying this, And I'm not going 181 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:53.000 to say you're going to think I'm crazy saying this, 182 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:54.720 because this has happened to a lot of people. But 183 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:59.080 a voice came into my head and said, don't you 184 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:02.440 ever call me a bad bear. And it came up 185 00:09:02.440 --> 00:09:05.159 with a name, and it's hard to remember this name, 186 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:08.759 but it was like Disquatchety or something. It was a 187 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:12.320 Native American name, and it said, don't you ever call 188 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:15.399 me a bad bear again. And this thing was angry. 189 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:19.279 It was really angry. And I don't know if it 190 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:21.159 was an alarm going off, if there was another one 191 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:23.919 that was the other one was a part of its family. 192 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:27.519 I don't know what was going on. But I didn't 193 00:09:27.559 --> 00:09:30.519 sleep until the sun came up. I was petrified. And 194 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.679 when it walked away, there was something with it that 195 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:38.960 sounded like a blend between a lamb and a monkey. 196 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:42.960 It was making little sounds, almost like a baby wood, 197 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:46.279 and it just walked away and that was the end 198 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:51.879 of that experience to me. When that happened, I immediately 199 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:56.440 was like, wow, that was incredible. The next day I 200 00:09:56.440 --> 00:09:58.320 went down and I took a picture of a twenty 201 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:02.720 two inch threat in the mud down below, as well 202 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:05.080 as the indentations where four or five of the rocks 203 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:06.799 had been thrown in the mud and they sunk right 204 00:10:06.799 --> 00:10:09.720 into the mud and disappeared in the lagoon. And we 205 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:11.480 had talked to the ranger there and said, hey, have 206 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:14.480 you ever had anything like this happened around here? Because 207 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:16.600 you know, I was oblivious to this. They said, oh, yeah, 208 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:19.559 we find prints around the lighthouse area and up in 209 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:21.720 the hill and people have had experiences here and there 210 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:25.080 in all the place, and it really awoke me to Wow, 211 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:28.240 how oblivious have I been this whole time to this 212 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:31.320 reality that all these lower, all these stories I had 213 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:33.919 heard for some of the years about how real these 214 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:37.399 things are there, and that the Native Americans. I ended 215 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:40.080 up meeting a friend from the BFURRO who speak would 216 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:41.919 speak to the chieftains, and the chieftains would say, we 217 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:44.720 used to trade with them thousands of years ago. They 218 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:47.120 were a part of our community. We had known about 219 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:49.679 them for thousands of years. I ended up looking at 220 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:52.120 the bfur O and they had an expedition that was 221 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:55.440 set for I believe it was either July or August. 222 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:59.440 Was positive July, and we went up there and this 223 00:10:59.519 --> 00:11:01.799 is a spot that was in between Mount Saint Helens 224 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:04.440 and Mount Adams, in the middle of nowhere, thirty forty 225 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:07.279 miles away from any city, any town at all, just 226 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:11.240 absolutely in the boondocks. And we went out there and 227 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:13.440 I thought, I'm going to get a jump on this. 228 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:16.360 I'm going to go out there Wednesday, so before many 229 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:18.360 people show up, They're going to be out there Wednesday 230 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:22.799 to people leading it. This is Kirk Brandenburg, Scott Taylor 231 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:27.000 and several Kevin Jones and several other people that are 232 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:31.480 already very prominently known in the BFRO. And I met 233 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:32.960 them out there and they said, hey, if you want 234 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:35.919 an experience with these guys, put your tent by the 235 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:38.559 edge of the forest over there, because that's where they 236 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:41.080 come from. For some reason, there's no no roads over 237 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:44.440 that direction. It's just open. And I thought, in my head, 238 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:46.960 I thought that experience I had to have been just 239 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:50.759 a fluke, that had to have been something that once 240 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:52.639 in a lifetime you're going to experience it. Leg This 241 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:55.039 is no way, even though I'm way out here in 242 00:11:55.080 --> 00:11:56.600 the middle of nowhere, I'm going to come up here 243 00:11:56.759 --> 00:11:59.480 and I'm going to have a similar experience in any way. 244 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:04.559 No way. So I go and camp there the first night, 245 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:06.679 nothing happens, and that's what I expected. I thought. No. 246 00:12:06.799 --> 00:12:09.519 I just got up in the morning Thursday morning, met 247 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:13.279 some people that showed up. We started hiking away from 248 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:15.159 the main base camp and got about two and a 249 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:18.840 half miles ag from that. There's a gentleman Chris Binham, 250 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:20.440 he's out there probably going to listen to this at 251 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:24.000 some point. And Doug Howe, who is another gentleman that 252 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:26.799 was with us went back there and we get gloss. 253 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:29.080 At one point we're like, let's where are we at. 254 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:31.240 The map we had wasn't showing. We had a compass, 255 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:32.960 but the road we went to was not on the map. 256 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:34.799 But we thought, now we're lost up here. This is, 257 00:12:34.919 --> 00:12:36.480 you know, kind of bad. We couldn't go back where 258 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:39.480 we came from because we went through swamps and hills 259 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:42.559 and thicket and it was just a mess trying to 260 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:45.519 get to that point. We end up we're standing there. 261 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:48.200 We found a spot walking a little further that was 262 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:52.039 a dugout. It was a space that had it was 263 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:55.759 very savvy and there were imprints everywhere as if there 264 00:12:55.799 --> 00:12:58.039 had been a lot of foot traffic in there, not 265 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:00.720 footprint footprints. So it was very sandy. So anything it 266 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:02.960 would leave a print there is going to collapse over time. 267 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:04.600 I would imagine, I don't think you'd make a good 268 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:08.320 print that very sandy material. But there were bones everywhere. 269 00:13:08.759 --> 00:13:11.759 These bones didn't have any meat on them, they weren't fresh, 270 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:14.840 and some of them were in patterns. It was very unusual. 271 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:19.759 Everything from elk legbones, no head pieces, no spines, but 272 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:23.000 lots of leg bones and antlers all over the place, 273 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:26.039 and we thought that was unusual. We're sand in there. 274 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:30.279 And something caught my attention to my left, in my periphery, 275 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:33.120 and I went to look at it, and as I 276 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:36.720 caught the look of what it was, it went down 277 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:39.360 at a forty five degree angle at a miraculous speed. 278 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:42.759 It was as if it knew it was being looked at, 279 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:45.200 because I didn't see any eyes, but I saw a 280 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:49.039 cone shaped head that was about sixteen inches across at 281 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:52.799 its lowest point. It was had hair that was matted down, 282 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:57.480 oily ish, watery looking glistening. The sun glistened off it. 283 00:13:57.480 --> 00:13:59.200 It was we were in the sun. It was eighty 284 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:05.480 five degrees and it dove down quickly, and so I thought, 285 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:09.600 meat to land. Our brain's like bear, there's a bear 286 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:11.039 up here, and I sent it to the guys. They're like, 287 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:12.879 why down, Let's walk up there calmly. So if it's 288 00:14:12.919 --> 00:14:14.600 a bear, we don't want to be attacked by a 289 00:14:14.600 --> 00:14:17.559 bear two miles away from where we came from. That 290 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:20.480 would be horrendous trying to get back from a bear attack. 291 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:22.720 And so we went around the corner up the hill 292 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:28.120 sixty feet away, no tracks, no scat no movement, no sounds, 293 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:30.840 and we thought, we're still lost. How are we going 294 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:33.440 to get out of here? And to backtracks us a 295 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:35.200 little bit. When I first got there the first day, 296 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:38.080 we went around to a spot not more than half 297 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:40.799 a mile away from where we were at lost to 298 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:42.960 a little lake well I think it was called Little 299 00:14:42.960 --> 00:14:46.480 Mosquito Lake and looked at it with Kevin Jones and 300 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:49.360 checked it out. They said there's been a activity there before, 301 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:51.879 and went back to the place, and then I spent 302 00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:54.919 the night skip ahead. We're stagg at the edge of 303 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:56.879 the saying we hear a tick and the forest in 304 00:14:56.919 --> 00:14:59.720 the distance like something's knocking on a piece of wood. 305 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:03.240 We thought, that's interesting, it's either a woodpecker beaver. Let's 306 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:04.879 just go over there and look at that. Went to 307 00:15:04.919 --> 00:15:07.159 that spot. I broke out my little mini cab at 308 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:10.159 the point this is going on, start recording it, and 309 00:15:10.879 --> 00:15:15.279 the sound hit three hits. So my friend Chris Binham 310 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:19.480 at the time hit a log three times and he 311 00:15:19.559 --> 00:15:21.039 had to hit three times. 312 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:24.279 Big for Society will be right back after these messages. 313 00:15:40.360 --> 00:15:43.039 So we were like, that's a smart woodpecker. That's weird. 314 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:46.120 So he hit twice, so then it hit it twice, 315 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:47.519 so he hit it once, it hit it once, and 316 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:50.639 each time we did this it replicated exactly each time, 317 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:53.559 and so we followed the sound. We would hit, it 318 00:15:53.559 --> 00:15:56.039 would make a sound, and it led us all the 319 00:15:56.039 --> 00:16:00.399 way to where I had been at that little Mesquit lake. 320 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:02.480 Let us right there as if it was trying to 321 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:04.279 get us out of there. If I could just get 322 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:08.240 these dumb creatures out of this space where we normally 323 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:11.279 hang out, that would be great without any interaction. And 324 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:14.320 then we found eleven and a half inch prints in 325 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:17.440 the space. They were bigfoot prints and they were all 326 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:20.360 over the place, right by the lake on the hillside. 327 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:23.480 So we went down. We told Doug. Doug went up 328 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:27.000 there with this guy Mike Beers and this other gentleman 329 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:30.200 that worked for the Finding Bigfoot show, Trevor Bounds I 330 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:32.559 believe his name was. I think they all went up 331 00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:34.279 there and spent the night. They had experience that they 332 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:37.519 published it went on finding bigfoots. So if you listeners 333 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:40.360 want to look up epicids, let's see season one, episode three, 334 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:44.200 I believe, which is Squatchier, Oregon or Washington, and they 335 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:48.840 interview Doug Howe and he speaks to the idea of 336 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:51.200 what happened. He doesn't speak at all about what happened 337 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:53.919 with us, which is fine because now dan for thirty seconds. 338 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:57.600 But that takes place. So that night I go back 339 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:01.480 to my tent and we're expecting Saturday, and we did it. 340 00:17:01.559 --> 00:17:06.720 We had hllacious thunderstorms that were extremely dangerous with lightning, flooding. 341 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:09.240 It was a really dangerous lighting story. I came through. 342 00:17:09.319 --> 00:17:11.240 I thought, you know, I'm gonna keep my windows open 343 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:14.279 front of out. But if I hear rain outside. As 344 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:16.279 I parked my vehicle and right next to me, I 345 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:19.720 could get out, shut my windows. No big deal. I'll 346 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:21.720 be able to get back into my tent quickly. It 347 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:24.519 is only eight feet away. I had a canopy above 348 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:29.079 the tent to protect it from heat and rain to it. 349 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:30.880 I'm a truck park right in front of me, in 350 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:32.559 front of the tent, backed up against the tent for 351 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:35.359 protection against people driving down the road and things like this. 352 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:43.720 So I was sleeping dead sleep, and around two fifteen 353 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:46.119 in the morning, I heard what I thought was water. 354 00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:49.680 I thought this it's raining early. I'd say, wow, I 355 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:52.640 should probably get up and shut my windows at my truck. 356 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:55.319 Is that's going to soak my truck inside and I'm 357 00:17:55.359 --> 00:17:58.759 laying there, and then the sound of it slowly stopped, 358 00:17:59.519 --> 00:18:03.160 and then I realized it wasn't rain. It was gravel 359 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:06.960 being dumped on the top of my ten foot canopy 360 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:10.480 on the edge, and it was just slowly falling off 361 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:13.240 the top of my canopy onto the ground. And then 362 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:17.400 I was like, whoa, that's that's not normal, Like what's 363 00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:19.839 going on here? My brain's more and more my adrenaline 364 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:23.680 kicks in, and I'm thinking this is getting stranger. A 365 00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:27.519 rock then is held by whatever hits the metal pole, 366 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:29.519 and it's drugged down the metal pole as if it's 367 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:32.079 trying to discern what this stuff is that it sees 368 00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:34.359 in front of it. And then I'm really like, that's 369 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:37.079 really not right. It sounded just like a good sized 370 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:40.240 rock hit the metal pole and then just slid down it. 371 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:43.119 The canopy and the rain flap in front was left 372 00:18:43.119 --> 00:18:46.480 open at night time because it was hot during the day, 373 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:48.400 it was hot at nighttime. It was just very warm 374 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:53.759 up there. And suddenly this pan comes pushing in the 375 00:18:53.799 --> 00:18:57.039 middle of where the door is and this these fingers 376 00:18:57.160 --> 00:19:00.920 are probably I've got pretty big hands, pretty good sized hands, 377 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:02.839 I'm not a giant person, but I'm six feet I'm 378 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:06.359 one ninety pretty good sized guy, at least more than 379 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:10.240 double my fingers put together, and the hand itself had 380 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:13.920 to have been easily wider from finger to finger, and 381 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:16.200 just the four fingers that were reaching in of a 382 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:19.519 foot maybe fourteen inches, and you can see each finger clearly. 383 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:23.200 And it pushed in and half the tent kind of 384 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:25.960 pushed over, and it started sweeping back and forth trying 385 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:27.759 to touch something. I was all the way at the 386 00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:29.839 other wall of the tent in a six man tent, 387 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:34.480 and at the point that started happening, my pulse went 388 00:19:34.559 --> 00:19:36.680 up on my neck so hard I could feel it. 389 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:38.200 I thought I was gonna have an aneurysm, because I 390 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:40.440 could feel it up in my head, up in my neck, 391 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:45.039 and I was terrified. I was so terrified that the 392 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:49.240 next day my entire body broke out. The ives, my face, 393 00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:52.519 every screch of my body broke out and blisters. I 394 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:55.759 couldn't believe what was happening. It did that several sweeps, 395 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:58.359 two or three good sweeps. The tent was pushed over. 396 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:01.119 Then it's pulled out and stopped. It didn't make any 397 00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:05.640 grunting sounds. There's no smell or anything. It went around 398 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:07.440 the side. I could hear it walk past my head 399 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:10.400 at this point, and I was petrified because I thought, 400 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:12.440 now it's going to reach on this side. It's definitely 401 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:14.039