1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. As you're all aware, 2 00:00:04,679 --> 00:00:07,960 we are at the Christmas break for the trial, so 3 00:00:08,279 --> 00:00:13,279 obviously there's nothing groundbreaking happening in the mornings or even 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,880 in the evenings at this point. But that's okay, because 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,960 we're still going to be here adding some context, and 6 00:00:20,039 --> 00:00:22,879 we're going to do that today by talking about the 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:28,320 grand jury transcripts from Palm Beach. Now, there was a 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,559 lot of talk a few weeks ago that this judge 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:36,200 was going to release these grand jury transcripts, and that 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,880 would have been a huge boost in the arm for transparency. 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,439 We all know that whatever went on in that grand 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,240 jury room in two thousand and six, it was not good, 13 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,960 all right. Whatever was going on in that grand jury 14 00:00:53,039 --> 00:00:57,640 room based on that arrest was not up to par. 15 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,280 And the fact that only one of those girls was 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,239 able to give their story in front of the grand 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,239 jury tells you everything you need to know about the 18 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:18,200 prosecutors and about the whole entire scenario that unfolded this 19 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:24,560 prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein. The original prosecution was legitimately one 20 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:30,439 of the biggest travesties of justice perhaps ever. When you 21 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,760 look at the grand scope of it all, and you 22 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:39,680 look at the disgusting nature of his crimes and the 23 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:44,680 wake of misery he left. I mean, it's hard not 24 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,319 to look at it like that. And the fact that 25 00:01:48,719 --> 00:01:52,959 Barry Krisher and the State Prosecutor's Office in Florida worked 26 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,400 hand in hand with Dershowitz and left Gowitz and the 27 00:01:56,439 --> 00:01:59,920 rest of Jeffrey Epstein's legal team to not only get 28 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,480 him off, but to destroy his own witnesses, Barry Kirsher's 29 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:09,560 own witnesses, meaning these girls, is just unbelievable to me. 30 00:02:11,719 --> 00:02:14,000 And you have this judge down there in Palm Beach, 31 00:02:14,039 --> 00:02:16,240 you know, one of the good old boys, one of 32 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:22,400 the been around forevers, still mucking things up, still not 33 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:28,120 interested in transparency. You would think, after all these years 34 00:02:28,319 --> 00:02:31,120 and all of the scrutiny over the Jeffrey Epstein case, 35 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,879 that some of these judges would wise up by now. 36 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,479 But like I always say, they think they're feudal lords 37 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,479 and these courtrooms are their fiefdoms and they can do 38 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:47,240 whatever they want. And these lifetime elected, lifetime appointed judges 39 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,319 bad news. Folks talk about people who are power hungry. 40 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,280 Every now and then you'll run across one of these 41 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,960 judges like this guy, and you just shake your head. 42 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,159 But there's been a lot of them when it comes 43 00:03:01,159 --> 00:03:05,120 to the Jeffrey Epstein case. A lot of these judges, 44 00:03:05,159 --> 00:03:07,719 a lot of these people in positions of power, have 45 00:03:08,039 --> 00:03:13,960 failed these girls time and time again. And with this 46 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,840 latest blow, this judge not going to release these transcripts. 47 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,599 It's just another victory for the scumbags and just another 48 00:03:23,719 --> 00:03:26,560 hurdle in the way of those who are trying to 49 00:03:26,599 --> 00:03:31,080 bring those scumbags to justice. This morning, we have an 50 00:03:31,159 --> 00:03:34,439 article from the Palm Beach Post and the author is 51 00:03:34,599 --> 00:03:40,280 Jane Musgrave. Was the Jeffrey Epstein case intentionally sunk? Judge 52 00:03:40,319 --> 00:03:44,879 won't excuse me, Judge won't release secret grand jury papers. 53 00:03:46,199 --> 00:03:52,039 And again it's another blow to transparency. It's another blow 54 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,960 to those of us who want the truth, and it 55 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:03,360 just again throws up another curtain over what everybody perceives 56 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:08,319 at this point is government mal seasons. You would think 57 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,680 that they'd want to expose that, right, you would think 58 00:04:10,719 --> 00:04:13,199 that they'd want to put that on blast, But that's 59 00:04:13,199 --> 00:04:17,319 not how it works. They're going to cover your ass 60 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,120 mode and they got to protect the other scumbags that 61 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,680 they work with and it's just such a dog and 62 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:27,959 pony show at this point, and the illusion that there's 63 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,639 a fair justice system, the illusion that there isn't a 64 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:36,079 two tier justice system is being shattered on a regular 65 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:41,920 basis at this point. A Palm Beach County Circuit judge 66 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,480 on Monday refused to release secret documents that could explain 67 00:04:45,639 --> 00:04:49,240 why a two thousand and six grand jury indicted serial 68 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,160 child molester Jeffrey Epstein on a single charge of prostitution 69 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,560 despite evidence that showed he abused more than a dozen 70 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,759 girls at his Palm Beach mansion. Now let that sink 71 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,600 in for those of you who aren't really completely up 72 00:05:03,639 --> 00:05:05,399 to date on the case, you know, those of you 73 00:05:05,439 --> 00:05:07,120 who have you know, had a life for the last 74 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,439 three years, this might seem like, what the hell are 75 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,639 you talking about here? How is that even possible? But 76 00:05:13,959 --> 00:05:17,519 this is what they've been dealing with, meaning the survivors 77 00:05:17,519 --> 00:05:21,680 from the beginning, law enforcement has not been on their side. 78 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,000 Law enforcement, in fact, a lot of the time has 79 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,920 worked against them. And you see it here again when 80 00:05:29,959 --> 00:05:33,240 you have this judge who makes the decision that these 81 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,120 grand jury documents will not see the light of day, 82 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,920 as if it's some sort of national security issue where 83 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,399 nobody should ever see those grand jury documents. Now, I 84 00:05:45,519 --> 00:05:49,680 understand if there was a legitimate reason, a legitimate issue, 85 00:05:49,759 --> 00:05:53,360 keeping those documents from the public, But there's no legitimate 86 00:05:53,399 --> 00:05:57,519 reason unless, of course, you're trying to cover for somebody, unless, 87 00:05:57,519 --> 00:06:04,399 of course, you're trying to protect your friends in a 88 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,720 In a ten page order circuit, Judge Donald Haffel rejected 89 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,920 arguments by attorneys for the Palm Beach Post who pushed 90 00:06:11,959 --> 00:06:15,000 him to release the records, citing a rarely used state 91 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:18,000 law that allows the secrecy of grand of the grand 92 00:06:18,079 --> 00:06:21,519 jury to be pierced to further the interests of justice. 93 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,759 And if this isn't a case where that hits home, 94 00:06:24,879 --> 00:06:30,680 I don't know what is. These grand jury testimony should 95 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:35,279 be on the uh uh uh uh excuse me released. 96 00:06:37,079 --> 00:06:39,600 They shouldn't be hidden from the public for all of 97 00:06:39,639 --> 00:06:45,120 these years, especially if it moves the interests of justice, 98 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,040 and it certainly would, considering the non prosecution agreement is 99 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,199 based on all of this, So to get rid of 100 00:06:53,199 --> 00:06:56,839 that non prosecution agreement, wouldn't it stand to reason that 101 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,319 having these grand jury documents released would go a long 102 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:09,120 way to making that occur. While Halfel noted the newspaper 103 00:07:09,199 --> 00:07:11,920 offered strong arguments. He said he was bound by the 104 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,720 state's law. The court rules against the newspaper because the 105 00:07:15,879 --> 00:07:19,839 established and binding maxims of Florida law constrain it to 106 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,480 do so, Halfley wrote. Halfly wrote, and again we know 107 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,560 that that's not one hundred percent the case. If it 108 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,600 promotes the interest of justice, as according to the state 109 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,920 law in Florida, then the documents can be released, the 110 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,000 transcripts can be released. But they don't have any interest 111 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,120 in doing that. Him, the other judge that's involved in this, 112 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,480 Krystal Marx, all of them had ties to Barry Krisher 113 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,959 or other people involved in the case. That's how these 114 00:07:46,959 --> 00:07:50,199 things work with these bureaucrats. They're all friends, they're all 115 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,560 going to the same company functions, and on and on 116 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,439 and on it goes. We've discussed it a lot here 117 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,120 on this podcast. You're not buying the lawyer for what 118 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:04,759 they're going to do in the courtroom. For the most part, 119 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,360 you're paying for a lawyer for the connections they have 120 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,759 outside of the courtroom, for the access they can get 121 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,079 you to the prosecutor's office. Why do you think in 122 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,079 a situation like Maxwell's, she hires somebody like Christian. Ever 123 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,759 do ex prosecutor has a lock with the SDNY knows 124 00:08:24,839 --> 00:08:28,560 all of the prosecutors. They're all probably chummy. They probably 125 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:33,960 go to barbecues together, you know what I'm talking about. 126 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:37,840 While state law allows the release of grand jury records 127 00:08:37,879 --> 00:08:40,600 to further the interest of justice, he said, it is 128 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,840 clear the legislature intended that exception to be used only 129 00:08:44,879 --> 00:08:49,720 in pending criminal or civil cases. So just because this 130 00:08:49,799 --> 00:08:52,679 happened a while back, and now Epstein's dead, let's just 131 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,240 forget it ever happened, We'll just move on. And you 132 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,480 know what it is. What it is. Sorry, the girls 133 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,080 who are victimized, no justice for them. It's basically what 134 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,960 this judge is saying. And I mean it shouldn't shock 135 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,639 anybody considering, you know what we see these judges do 136 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,559 on a regular basis from the bench here in America. 137 00:09:12,039 --> 00:09:15,879 But you would think that something like this, with all 138 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,200 of the interests surrounding it, all of the questions that 139 00:09:20,279 --> 00:09:22,919 still need to be answered, that if you were a judge, 140 00:09:22,919 --> 00:09:25,120 you'd say to yourself, you know what, in the interests 141 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,000 of justice, in the interests of moving the truth forward, 142 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,159 I'm going to release these transcripts, and that's what the 143 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,039 law is put on the books for. But unfortunately this 144 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,600 judge didn't want to interpret the interpret it that way. Instead, 145 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,440 the newspaper advocates a more expensive interpretation of the term. 146 00:09:44,639 --> 00:09:47,720 He wrote, the newspaper wants the ability to publish the 147 00:09:47,799 --> 00:09:51,639 materials and reference them and its reporting, and also to 148 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,960 make the materials available to the public. Yeah, that's how 149 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,320 this works, judge. Okay, the public is interested in a 150 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,840 case that's probably one of the mos most corrupt of 151 00:10:00,879 --> 00:10:04,320 all time. So yeah, there is going to be a 152 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,559 bit of hesitancy, to trust you. There is going to 153 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,799 be a bit of cynicism when it comes to court rulings, 154 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,960 and the fact that you want to keep this stuff 155 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,039 away from the public is just going to feed into 156 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:24,639 conspiracy theories and outlandish thoughts. The government plays a huge 157 00:10:24,639 --> 00:10:28,240 part in all of that. They could stem and stop 158 00:10:28,639 --> 00:10:31,039 a whole bunch of the conspiracy stuff with a whole 159 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,000 lot of different topics if they just stop their bullshit. 160 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,960 But they don't want to ever be transparent. They want 161 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,240 to keep everything private. Everything's a national security issue, isn't it, 162 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,759 And that's what they'll say, Or if you're looking to 163 00:10:44,759 --> 00:10:48,960 get information about something, say like Jeffrey Epstein's first alleged 164 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,720 suicide attempt, what they'll say is the information is unavailable 165 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,200 because it's still part of an ongoing investigation, and that 166 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:01,159 ongoing investigation has to do with Tartaglioni. So they'll just 167 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,600 run you in circles for as long as possible, and 168 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,120 if somehow you do get some Freedom of Information Act 169 00:11:08,159 --> 00:11:12,639 information from them, it'll be heavily redacted or partial. You'll 170 00:11:12,639 --> 00:11:21,120 never get the full story like the newspapers. Attorneys. Halfel 171 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,639 said the transcripts could help answer troublesome questions about why 172 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:30,480 the politically connected, multimillionaire pedophile escaped serious punishment. Some claim 173 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,279 that then state Attorney Barry Krisher was improperly influenced by 174 00:11:34,279 --> 00:11:37,360 Epstein's high octane defense team. I agree with that. I 175 00:11:37,399 --> 00:11:39,639 definitely think he was. When you go back and you 176 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,320 look at all of the documentation, and you look at 177 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,879 the reporting, and you look at how things broke, it's 178 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,919 very obvious that he wasn't working as an advocate for 179 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,559 these survivors, and neither was the Prosecutor's Office of Florida 180 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,519 or a hell, the federal prosecutor's office either, because remember, 181 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,559 while LaCosta was the one who was the direction man, right, 182 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,799 the guy who was considered the quote unquote boss on 183 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,440 the ground, he had people to answer to as well. 184 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,000 He's just a mid level bureaucrat. He don't make decisions 185 00:12:14,039 --> 00:12:16,200 like this. He had to kick that up the chain 186 00:12:16,279 --> 00:12:20,840 to move Muksi and the rest of them. So they 187 00:12:20,879 --> 00:12:23,960 all failed from the top down, from the federal government 188 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,879 all the way down to the state and now all 189 00:12:26,919 --> 00:12:30,759 the way back to this judge. Absolute failures a top 190 00:12:30,799 --> 00:12:36,960 of absolute failures. It may very well be that the 191 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,360 disclosure of Jeffrey Epstein's grand jury records could reveal the 192 00:12:40,399 --> 00:12:43,799 fair treatment did not occur, and that mister Epstein might 193 00:12:43,799 --> 00:12:47,360 have escaped appropriate punishment through some failing of our justice system. 194 00:12:48,039 --> 00:12:54,559 Haffel said, yeah, well, how about releasing the documents then instead, 195 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,480 you'll just sit on them, right like a dragon hoarding 196 00:12:57,519 --> 00:13:03,480 its gold. Post hasn't decided whether to appeal, but he 197 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,200 said state law can't be ignored on a whim or 198 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,039 to satisfy the public's curiosity. The court's interpretation of the 199 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,080 scope of the state law end of the phrase furthering 200 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,600 justice is governed and constrained by the established rules of 201 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:22,279 statutory construction, Halfley wrote. Attorneys for the posts said they 202 00:13:22,279 --> 00:13:25,720 were reviewing the order and had not yet decided whether 203 00:13:25,799 --> 00:13:29,360 to appeal. I really hope they do. I mean, I 204 00:13:29,399 --> 00:13:33,360 know it's an extra cost on them to appeal stuff 205 00:13:33,399 --> 00:13:36,000 like this, and the attorney fees get to be a 206 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,320 bit excessive. But you would think that in the interest 207 00:13:39,399 --> 00:13:44,960 of justice, in the interest of transparency, that they would 208 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:49,200 release this documentation. And really what it comes down to 209 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,000 is this judge's interpretation of the law. That's all it is. 210 00:13:57,039 --> 00:13:59,159 But he said state law can't be ignored on a 211 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:05,720 whim or to satisfy the public's curiosity. In a statement, 212 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,879 a comptroller and Clerk of the Courts, Joe Abruzzo, said 213 00:14:08,919 --> 00:14:12,120 that while he hired a top media lawyer to represent 214 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,639 his office in the lawsuit, he wasn't against the newspaper's request. 215 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,440 While Florida's statute is clear on its prohibition of releasing 216 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,799 information from grand jury cases, I want to be clear 217 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,240 that I have absolutely no objection to releasing grand jury 218 00:14:26,279 --> 00:14:29,480 information in the Epstein case if directed by the court. 219 00:14:29,559 --> 00:14:33,360 A Bruso said, so, what the comptroller is saying, look, 220 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,120 I'll release this information, but I have to be directed 221 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,440 to do so by the court. That's the only way 222 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,399 that I can release this. And once again it goes 223 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,240 back to the judges. These guys running around like their 224 00:14:45,279 --> 00:14:54,080 Taiwan lanister in the courtroom. He hired Shane Voight, a 225 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,519 Tampa attorney who won a one hundred and forty million 226 00:14:56,519 --> 00:15:00,519 dollars verdict against Gawker on behalf of retired professional wrestler 227 00:15:00,759 --> 00:15:04,600 Hulk Hogan and has represented others in fights against news outlets, 228 00:15:04,639 --> 00:15:10,759 to represent the office. During a hearing on October twenty second, 229 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,840 Void argued that if half of approved the newspaper's request, 230 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,240 it would open the floodgates for others to do the same. Well, 231 00:15:18,279 --> 00:15:20,960 so what open the floodgates and then on a case 232 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,639 by case basis decide what should or what shouldn't be released? 233 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,399 Why is that so difficult? Oh? Is it going to 234 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,960 cause extra work for the clerks? God forbid? I mean, 235 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,720 are we supposed to just slow everything down? And you know, oh, 236 00:15:37,759 --> 00:15:40,960 well let's wait on things here, because you know, we 237 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,159 don't have enough time or enough people. I don't even 238 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:50,000 understand what any of it means. The floodgates will open. Well, 239 00:15:50,039 --> 00:15:53,600 if they're legitimate requests, then maybe the floodgates need to 240 00:15:53,639 --> 00:15:58,960 be opened. Halfel said he could craft a narrow order 241 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,960 that would assure the clerk wouldn't be inundated with demands 242 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,879 for grand jury records. Still, he said, after reviewing the law, 243 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,600 he determined the documents must remain secret. State Attorney Dave 244 00:16:10,679 --> 00:16:15,159 Ahrenberg declined to comment on Halfle's decision. While the paper 245 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,080 initially named him in the lawsuit, he was dropped after 246 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,759 he claimed he didn't have the records. Executives of the newspaper, 247 00:16:21,799 --> 00:16:25,039 which is owned by Gannett Gannet Company, said they were 248 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:29,120 disappointed by Halfle's decision. Yeah, you would think so. Right. 249 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,679 As a newspaper organization, the idea is to get as 250 00:16:32,759 --> 00:16:37,120 much information to the public as possible, let the public decide. 251 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:40,840 And what better way to do that than to provide 252 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,320 raw data such as transcripts. I don't need the middleman, right, 253 00:16:45,519 --> 00:16:48,480 provide us with the transcripts, provide us with the information 254 00:16:48,559 --> 00:16:51,039 that we need, and let us decide what's going on 255 00:16:51,159 --> 00:16:56,159 here as the public. But no, they'll keep everything hidden. 256 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,960 And then what he'll do is he'll cite some obscure 257 00:16:59,039 --> 00:17:02,799 law here. Oh well, it'll cause a flood of other requests, 258 00:17:02,799 --> 00:17:05,799 and all of it is nonsense. Whenever I hear any 259 00:17:05,799 --> 00:17:08,119 of this stuff, all I hear is no, we don't 260 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,160 want to be transparent. No, you can't know the truth. 261 00:17:11,519 --> 00:17:14,000 That's basically what I hear every time they start in 262 00:17:14,039 --> 00:17:20,240 on the nonsense. While the Post appreciates the court's consideration 263 00:17:20,319 --> 00:17:24,119 of the issues, we respectfully disagree with the legal conclusion 264 00:17:24,319 --> 00:17:27,759 that public access to the Epstein grand jury materials is 265 00:17:27,799 --> 00:17:32,920 not warranted under the circumstances, said Marrable Perez Wadsworth, president 266 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,039 of Gannett News USA Today Network and publisher of USA Today. 267 00:17:37,799 --> 00:17:41,039 It is our right and responsibility to report all aspects 268 00:17:41,079 --> 00:17:44,119 of this case, and we will continue to diligently seek 269 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,119 the facts in our pursuit of transparency. Can argue with 270 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,119 that and props to them for doing it. I mean, 271 00:17:52,599 --> 00:17:55,799 is it too much to ask to have some transparency 272 00:17:56,279 --> 00:17:59,640 or as the public to have the proper information in 273 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:07,720 a case that is so important. Post Executive editor Rich 274 00:18:07,839 --> 00:18:11,799 Christy echoed those sentiments. For sixteen years, the Post has 275 00:18:11,839 --> 00:18:14,920 been driven to report on the heinous acts of Jeffrey Epstein. 276 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,839 For two reasons, justice for the victimized girls and accountability 277 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,839 for our readers. He said, today's ruling by Circuit Judge Haffl, 278 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,039 while disappointing, does not deter us from our mission of 279 00:18:28,039 --> 00:18:31,960 furthering justice for Epstein's young victims. The Post will always 280 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,799 fight to shine a spotlight wherever it is needed to 281 00:18:34,839 --> 00:18:38,200 expose the actions or in actions of those charged with 282 00:18:38,319 --> 00:18:42,319 serving and protecting the public period. He concluded, Hey, I'll 283 00:18:42,319 --> 00:18:44,759 tell you what, I'm all for that, and I'll be 284 00:18:44,839 --> 00:18:48,000 right here with you, ryding shotgun as far as trying 285 00:18:48,039 --> 00:18:51,960 to get these transcripts, because it's a big deal. It's 286 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,880 a huge deal. And I can't express enough how important 287 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,720 that non prosecution agreement is in protecting these people. Still, 288 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,839 and all of this plays such a huge part in 289 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:09,720 that the ruling was a blow to efforts to unravel 290 00:19:09,759 --> 00:19:14,119 the sordid case that grabbed international attention. It also came 291 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,680 on a day that a federal jury in New York 292 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,960 began deliberating whether Epstein's longtime girlfriend, co conspirator Gleain Maxwell 293 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,519 recruited in groom teens for his pleasure. The fifty nine 294 00:19:25,599 --> 00:19:29,319 year old British socialite co conspirator general all around scusbag 295 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,599 bipedal serpent faces a lengthy prison term if connected if 296 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,279 convicted of multiple charges in connection with the sex trafficking scheme. 297 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,319 During the October hearing, the newspaper's attorneys argued that the 298 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,599 case was unique. More than fifteen years has passed. Epstein 299 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,799 is dead, so none of the information can be used 300 00:19:47,799 --> 00:19:52,079 against him. The sixty six year old financier pedophile who 301 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,519 counted former President Bill Clinton and Britain's Prince Andrew his friends, 302 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,960 hung himself allegedly in a Manhattan jail cell in August 303 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,279 twenty nineteen while awaiting trial on dozens of sex trafficking 304 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:09,839 charges in New York. Again, he's dead. None of this 305 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,680 information can be used against him or anything like that. 306 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,519 So I don't understand how it won't be released. Now. Look, 307 00:20:16,599 --> 00:20:18,880 if he was still alive and there was a chance 308 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,720 that this information could be used or all right, I 309 00:20:21,799 --> 00:20:23,799 get it. I might not agree with it, but I 310 00:20:23,839 --> 00:20:26,519 get it. I don't agree with it, and I don't 311 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:29,839 get it in this instance. The guy's dead. He's rotting. 312 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:37,279 It's time for transparency. A dozen girls said they were 313 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:41,400 sexually abused. Only one testified as part of a twenty 314 00:20:41,559 --> 00:20:46,039 nineteen investigation titled The First Failure. Sources familiar with the 315 00:20:46,079 --> 00:20:49,559 grand jury proceedings told the Post that while more than 316 00:20:49,559 --> 00:20:53,279 a dozen teens told Palm Beach police that Epstein molested them, 317 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,000 only one, a fourteen year old girl, was called to testify. 318 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,200 And this is what I talk about a lot in 319 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,359 reference how only one girl was called to give testimony, 320 00:21:02,599 --> 00:21:05,920 and how it flashes shades to what we saw here 321 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,519 in the Maxwell trial with only four girls being called. Well, 322 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:13,279 I understand the scopes a little bit different. It's just 323 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,839 for those of us who have been through this already, 324 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:23,960 it's concerning to see the sources said Krishier's top lieutenants 325 00:21:24,039 --> 00:21:27,079 villified the team. Instead of focusing on the abuse she 326 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,200 suffered at the hands of the wealthy pedophile, they quizzed 327 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,680 her about her social media activity, which included references to 328 00:21:33,799 --> 00:21:37,200 boys and drinking. Her posts on her MySpace page were 329 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:42,599 given were given to Kursher by Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, 330 00:21:42,839 --> 00:21:46,079 one of Epstein's top flight attorneys. And that was the 331 00:21:46,079 --> 00:21:49,559 strategy then, it's the strategy now, and it'll continue to 332 00:21:49,599 --> 00:21:53,000 be the strategy until these juries wake up and start 333 00:21:53,039 --> 00:21:57,440 convicting these people. We all know that the girls were 334 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:03,240 absolutely destroyed by not only the authorities, but by Epstein's attorneys. 335 00:22:03,519 --> 00:22:06,400 Oh they're talking to boys. They were smoking weed, they 336 00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:10,880 drank on their MySpace page. Really, let me ask you, 337 00:22:11,039 --> 00:22:13,759 how many of you out there, as young teenagers didn't 338 00:22:13,759 --> 00:22:16,200 do any of those things? I know we all did. 339 00:22:16,279 --> 00:22:19,480 I know I did. If you're gonna base my life 340 00:22:19,519 --> 00:22:22,599 on what I did as a young man, then a boy, 341 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:29,640 I'll tell you I'd be in big trouble. Her alleged 342 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,359 treatment by state prosecutors could explain why grand jurors indicted 343 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,039 Epstein on the lone prostitution charge instead of multiple counts 344 00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:43,319 of child molestation that were sought by the police. The 345 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,079 prostitution charge ignored the tender age of Epstein's accusers and 346 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,640 the fact that teens under the age of eighteen couldn't 347 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,480 legally consent to sex. We've talked about that from the 348 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:55,519 jump too. How can you even call a girl under 349 00:22:55,559 --> 00:22:58,480 eighteen a prostitute when they can't even consent to sex? 350 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:05,720 How is that event in logical? Legal experts say prosecutors 351 00:23:05,759 --> 00:23:09,039 will tremendous influence over grand jurors who aren't skilled in 352 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,839 the law. Cynically, some embrace a time honored maxim that 353 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,480 a prosecutor, if he desired, could indict a ham sandwich. 354 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,799 And this is a fact as well. You know, the 355 00:23:19,839 --> 00:23:24,640 grand jury rooms are places where indictments definitely come down 356 00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:30,440 at a huge swell. The statement you get a ham 357 00:23:30,519 --> 00:23:33,920 sandwich indicted at a grand jury certainly rings true because 358 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,400 it's something that a lot of people talk about who 359 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:42,319 are in the know. After his death, scores of young 360 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,279 women came forward publicly describing how Epstein sexually assaulted them 361 00:23:46,519 --> 00:23:49,720 at his home in Palm Beach, his penthouse apartment in Manhattan, 362 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,839 his ranch in New Mexico, and his private island in 363 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,759 the Virgin Islands. Some said he forced them to have 364 00:23:55,839 --> 00:23:58,880 sex with his celebrity friends while aboard his private jet, 365 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,039 the Lolita Express. Yes, many teen victims were from Palm 366 00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:07,519 Beach County, like teens from Royal Palm Beach and John I. 367 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,960 Leonard High Schools. Many were lured to Epstein's homes with 368 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,640 the promise of being paid two hundred dollars to give 369 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,759 him a massage. He greeted them wearing little more than 370 00:24:16,759 --> 00:24:20,079 a towel. He offered to pay them more, to disrobe, 371 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,160 let him fondle them, and to have sex. Boy, what 372 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,279 does that all sound like? Sounds like a bunch of 373 00:24:25,319 --> 00:24:30,200 testimony we just heard, doesn't it. Imagine this testimony mirrors 374 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,279 that testimony. And if they would have actually done their 375 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,079 job during this first arrest and had more than one 376 00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:41,240 of the victims give their testimony to the Grand Jerry, 377 00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:49,039 a lot of this could have been stopped. Perhaps the girls, 378 00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:52,880 some from hardscrabble backgrounds, were promised careers in high fashion 379 00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:56,680 college educations or other perchs that were beyond their reach. 380 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,880 The Grand Jerry mark the beginning of when the case 381 00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:04,920 bunaut of control. Angry at Chrisher's handling, at his agent's 382 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,000 angry at Chrishier's handling of his agency's investigation, Palm Beach 383 00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:13,240 Police Chief Michael Ryder went to the FBI. Ultimately, in 384 00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:17,519 his secret deal, South Florida attorney Alex Acosta agreed to 385 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:20,680 shell of a fifty three page federal indictment against Epstein 386 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,440 if he would plead guilty to state prostitution charges. And 387 00:25:24,519 --> 00:25:27,440 now remember it's not just a costa here. He's the 388 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,240 scumbag with no spine, no doubt about it, and he 389 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,799 deserves his infamy for his role. But he wasn't the 390 00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:36,720 one who made the decision. He might have been the 391 00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:39,640 one who, you know, filed it up the chain of command, 392 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:45,880 but he didn't okay it, that's for sure. As part 393 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,119 of the so called non prosecution agreement, Krisher added a 394 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,680 charge of solicitation of a minor for prostitution. Federal prosecutors 395 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,759 insisted on the second charge because it would force Epstein 396 00:25:56,839 --> 00:25:59,400 to register as a sex offender. How that work out 397 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,519 in New Mexico. Oh, that's right. He didn't have to 398 00:26:01,559 --> 00:26:05,839 register there because he knew. He planned all of this. 399 00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:13,599 He took precautions. On June thirtieth, two thousand and eight, 400 00:26:13,759 --> 00:26:17,680 Epstein pleaded guilty in Palm Beach County Circuit Court to 401 00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:21,680 both prostitution charges. He served thirteen months of an eighteen 402 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,319 month sentence in a largely vacant wing of the county stockade. 403 00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:29,200 He was given liberal work release privileges. He was allowed 404 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,599 to spend up to twelve hours a day, six days 405 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,119 a week working at a private foundation he created months earlier. 406 00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:39,359 The fallout from what one state prosecutor described as the 407 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,599 deal of the century, was far reaching if delayed, and 408 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,359 not only was Epstein out, according to some of these 409 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,680 other accusers, he was abusing them while he was out 410 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,880 on this work release program. Fantastic job done by the 411 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,799 federal government. Huh, fantastic job done by the Florida state authorities. 412 00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:04,160 After Epstein was charged in New York, a Costa resigned 413 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,880 as former President Donald Trump's labor secretary when questions were 414 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,160 raised about his involvement in crafting the non prosecution agreement. 415 00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:15,000 Before his resignation, a Costa sought to blame Krisher. He 416 00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:17,240 claimed he was forced to clean up a mess Krisher 417 00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:21,240 created when the state prosecutor refused to file serious charges 418 00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:25,519 against Epstein. Acosta pointed out that Krisher originally offered to 419 00:27:25,559 --> 00:27:28,960 allow Epstein to plead guilty to aggravate an assault, serve 420 00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:31,680 no jail time, and have the felony record a rased 421 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,799 if he complied with the terms of his probation. That 422 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,240 was unacceptable, Acosta said during a nationally televised news conference. 423 00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:44,440 So basically, it's a point hum game, right, you did it, 424 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,039 he did it, she did it. And in reality, what 425 00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:49,920 they do is they cause enough confusion then that nobody's 426 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:58,279 held responsible. Krisher responded that Acosta was attempting to rewrite 427 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,880 history repaired statement. He said, I can emphatically state that 428 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,359 mister Acosta's recollection of this matter is completely wrong. A 429 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,680 federal investigation in twenty twenty found that Acosta place too 430 00:28:10,759 --> 00:28:14,839 much trust in Krisher. A two year state investigation completed 431 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,559 last year concluded that Krisher had little input into the 432 00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:24,039 nonprofit prosecution agreement and found no wrongdoing. State investigators were 433 00:28:24,079 --> 00:28:29,359 denied access to the grand jury proceedings. So not only 434 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,440 has the public locked out, they locked out the state 435 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:37,799 investigators who were investigating wrongdoing here in the FDL report. Yeah, 436 00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:41,039 nothing to see here, folks, keep on moving. Everything is 437 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:48,359 just fine. We're all fine. After Epstein died, authorities in 438 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,559 the US Virgin Islands worked with those who were administering 439 00:28:51,759 --> 00:28:54,559 his estate to set up a fund to compensate his victims. 440 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,640 They wrapped up their work in August after paying slightly 441 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,160 more than one hundred and twenty one million to more 442 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,880 than one hundred and thirty five people, According to the 443 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,119 New York Times, Look, this is a situation that, obviously, 444 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,200 as you can tell here, has been going on for 445 00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:12,799 quite some time, and there was hope that this judge 446 00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:16,680 was going to release these grand jury documents. Well that's 447 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,720 not going to occur. So the battle continues for transparency, folks, 448 00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:24,559 and we'll continue to report on it and we'll continue 449 00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:28,000 to talk about it until there's some movement and we 450 00:29:28,119 --> 00:29:34,240 finally get a glimpse behind the curtain. All right, folks, 451 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,079 that's gonna do it for me today, and I'll be 452 00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:40,880 back later on, obviously with a evening update and expect 453 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,640 some more context episodes as well. If you'd like to 454 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,079 contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuchi at 455 00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:53,680 ProtonMail dot com. That's bo Bbuy c ap Ucci at 456 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,559 ProtonMail dot com. You can also find me on Twitter 457 00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:03,480 at bo bbuy underscore or caap Ucci. The link that 458 00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:07,720 we discussed can be found in the description box. What's 459 00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:12,359 up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. One 460 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,160 of the biggest farces in the history of Varses is 461 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,119 the fact that Jeffrey Epstein received that sweetheart deal that 462 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,599 he received that should have never happened. It should have 463 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,720 never went down, and everybody involved in that sweetheart deal 464 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,000 should lose their pensions, should not have a job working 465 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,960 for the federal government and should be looked at for 466 00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:36,960 perhaps even losing their law license. And I truly mean 467 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,920 that when I say it. That's how big of a 468 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,359 travesty this was. To think that any prosecutor anywhere in 469 00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:45,960 the country would give this guy this kind of deal 470 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:52,319 is just beyond me. And then for the court system 471 00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:55,680 the government to say that there is no legal basis 472 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,759 to invalidate the sweetheart deal is even more absurd. So 473 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:02,680 what you're telling me is there are no levers to 474 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,200 pull on if something goes wrong in the legal system, 475 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,359 we just have to deal with it. Huh. Seems like 476 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,160 every time something goes south in the legal system, it 477 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,920 always ends up going in the favor of the federal government, 478 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,480 never in the favor of the people. And once again 479 00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:19,680 we're seeing that here. So what you're telling me is 480 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,240 you're rich buddies like Jeffrey Epstein who get these stupid 481 00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:26,720 ass non prosecution deals handed to them by their friends 482 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,319 and government are just allowed to have them, and there's 483 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,880 no recourse. There's no way to go back and look 484 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,200 at one of these deals and say it was done 485 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,599 in bad faith and get rid of it. Just another 486 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,839 loophole and technicality for the so called the lead. Huh. 487 00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:47,319 Today we have another article from Law on Crime. Author 488 00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:51,720 of this article, Jerry Lamb, headlined, Federal prosecutors say there's 489 00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:56,079 no legal basis to invalidate Jeffrey Epstein's sweetheart deal. Well, 490 00:31:56,119 --> 00:31:58,839 I say that needs to be looked at. Then maybe 491 00:31:58,839 --> 00:32:01,079 they need to come up with a new solution here 492 00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:03,400 where in the future, if a deal like this is given, 493 00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:05,839 a panel can be put together and the panel can 494 00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:08,240 look at it and say, you know what, this is 495 00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:12,319 not a deal that we're comfortable with, because this is 496 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:19,000 unacceptable and it can never happen again. The Department of 497 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,759 Justice on Monday rejected efforts by the survivors of Jeffrey 498 00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:26,559 Epstein to get a sweetheart non prosecution deal thrown out 499 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,000 so that Epstein can be prosecuted for alleged abuse of 500 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:36,039 dozens of underage girls. Now imagine being the judge who 501 00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:40,519 denies this. In a thirty five page motion first reported 502 00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:44,440 by the Miami Herald, federal prosecutors claim that Jeffrey Epstein's 503 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,960 survivors have no legal basis to invalidate the non prosecution agreement. 504 00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:52,559 The same agreement the judge in the case previously said 505 00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:55,599 broke the law. So you see what's going on here. 506 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,559 You have judges saying that this agreement broke the law. 507 00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:01,720 Then you have a court saying, oh, well, no, there's 508 00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:05,799 no recourse here for this because there's nothing that was invalid. 509 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,119 So they can't even figure it out as far as 510 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,640 the legal system itself, what's right or wrong here, And 511 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,680 then they expect us just to stomach it and suck 512 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,319 it down and be okay with it. No way, there 513 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,359 is no chance that this legal agreement should have stood. 514 00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:24,519 There is no chance that it should stand at all. 515 00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:28,279 And in fact, it's ridiculous that anyone would refer to 516 00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:30,880 this and try and use it as a defense. As 517 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,119 we found out in the previous article, it holds no 518 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:40,839 water unless you're down in Florida. Many of Epstein's survivors 519 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,799 were middle school and high school girls between the ages 520 00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:46,920 of thirteen and sixteen who were recruited from the local 521 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,960 South Florida area. According to prosecutors, despite a judge's earlier 522 00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:56,119 ruling that the Plea deal violated the Crime Victim's Rights Act, 523 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,960 epstein survivors cannot demand that the government take any addition 524 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:05,359 action because the CVRA did not enumerate any mandatory criminal 525 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,039 penalties at the time of its passing. So basically what 526 00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:12,880 they're doing is using legallyes loopholes and technicalities in the 527 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,880 law itself that the Congress that you know, Congress passed 528 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,679 that Congress wrote to get their buddies off once again. 529 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,920 And this is how they do it, right. They put 530 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,679 these loopholes in these technicalities in these laws that you 531 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,400 or I would never be able to exploit because we 532 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,639 don't have the money, we don't have the legal power 533 00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:33,119 in the backing to really go toe to toe with 534 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:36,960 the federal government. But somebody like Jeffrey Epstein or Glee Maxwell, 535 00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:40,360 they certainly do. And when you have those resources, well, 536 00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:46,239 the world is your oyster. In Monday's DJ filing by 537 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,960 Attorney byong Pack, who was appointed by President Donald Trump, 538 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,719 the government admits that the survivors were treated unfairly, but 539 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,519 says that prosecutors were within their rights to do so. 540 00:34:57,039 --> 00:35:01,119 Real nice by bejung Pack. Huh of a guy, Hell 541 00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:04,920 of a attorney here, I mean, this guy's defending Just 542 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,440 think about this for a minute, Okay, folks, this man 543 00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:12,000 is defending this prosecution agreement all because he doesn't want 544 00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:15,079 the government to have some dirt on their face. Instead 545 00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:18,039 of just admitting that this deal was bad, it was garbage, 546 00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:20,360 and the government shit the bed, they'll fight it to 547 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,559 the very end. Well at the same time telling you, oh, 548 00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:30,119 we're looking for justice for these survivors. Yeah, right. In 549 00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:33,880 the filing, federal prosecutors did concede that the US Attorney's 550 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,679 Office in South Florida failed to treat Epstein's survivors, most 551 00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:41,239 of whom were thirteen to sixteen years old when they 552 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,760 were abused, fairly, But they said the law gives prosecutors 553 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,360 discretion in deciding how to dispose of a case. Survivors 554 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,280 have a right to confer with prosecutors, but no rights 555 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:58,159 beyond that. So basically, let's just revictimize these people and 556 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,840 let's make it so nobody wants to come far ever 557 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,639 again because there's no justice. Oh so I come forward, 558 00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:06,960 and then what happens. These people are protected by their 559 00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:10,760 non prosecution agreement. Then they can hire their private investigators 560 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,840 to come bother me again like they did to all 561 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,159 of the people involved. Let me be very clear with you, 562 00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:19,400 if I walk out of my home and anyone's rummaging 563 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,960 through my trash. We're gonna have a big problem. If 564 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,960 I'm sitting in the street and somebody's following me around 565 00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:29,199 and you don't have a badge. Once again, we're gonna 566 00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:33,840 have a big problem. These people have gotten way too 567 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,840 comfortable thinking that they can bully people. They have gotten 568 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,559 way too comfortable thinking that when they walk in the 569 00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:43,119 room they're the only ones with big dig energy. But 570 00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:47,199 the reality is people have had enough and just normal, average, 571 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:52,519 everyday folks like you are the backbone of that. And 572 00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:56,760 if they think that we're gonna stop demanding justice here 573 00:36:57,119 --> 00:37:01,239 or for other victims of violent crimes, they are sorely mistaken. 574 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,639 PAC also warn the judge overseeing the case, Kenneth Marra, 575 00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:11,159 against taking action to overrule Acosta's original decision not to 576 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,320 prosecute prosecute Epstein. So who is this young PAC guy 577 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,320 and why is he out here trying to defend Jeffrey Epstein? 578 00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:22,480 Pretty interesting, right, wasn't that one of Bill Barr's guys? 579 00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:26,079 Oh it was, wasn't it? Good Old Darth Barr one 580 00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:32,239 of the most unreliable, untrustworthy people to ever plant their 581 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,760 lazy do nothing asses in Washington. D c Courts are 582 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,880 not to interfere with the free exercise of the discretionary 583 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,000 powers of the United States attorneys in their control over 584 00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:48,320 criminal prosecutions. Pac said the decision whether to prosecute Epstein 585 00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:52,400 lies solely within executive within the executive branch, and any 586 00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:55,280 order today by this court as to what the government 587 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,000 must do in the future would be wholly inappropriate. So 588 00:37:59,079 --> 00:38:00,719 that just gives you a little bit of an idea 589 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,079 of how the Justice Department has felt about Epstein and 590 00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:07,159 these survivors throughout time. And it doesn't matter who the 591 00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:10,280 president is, every single one of these attorney generals has 592 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,280 been an impediment for justice going all the way back 593 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,000 to Clinton. We're talking since Clinton. That's how many presidents 594 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,559 Jeffrey Epstein has been active under, and how many Attorney 595 00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:23,119 generals stepped up and did something about it. So I 596 00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:25,679 don't want to hear anything about how you know Bill 597 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,559 Barr was appointed by Donald Trump to get rid of 598 00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:32,480 human trafficking. That's a bunch of bullshit. Meet the new boss, 599 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,880 same as the old boss, over and over again on repeat. 600 00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:41,840 The Herald did note, however, that Pac said Epstein survivors 601 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,199 would be given the chance to meet with prosecutors in 602 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,199 private and if they desired to be heard out of 603 00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:49,840 public hearing. He also said he would agree to give 604 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,960 federal prosecutors additional training on dealing with survivors of crimes 605 00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:57,599 of this nature, basically just you know, shoving it under 606 00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:00,880 the rug. And this is why I've been so critical 607 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,719 of the Department of Justice, of the FBI and their 608 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,320 handling of the Jeffrey Epstein criminal enterprise. And for all 609 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,760 the people out there that want to continuously play politics 610 00:39:11,079 --> 00:39:14,119 about this, folks, I hate to tell you how much 611 00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:16,119 more evidence do you need to see that it's both 612 00:39:16,159 --> 00:39:18,639 sides of the aisle here that have, you know, chips 613 00:39:18,639 --> 00:39:22,239 in the game. They don't want this to be out there. 614 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,639 They don't want the whole entire scope of what Epstein 615 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,079 was up to to be released to the public because 616 00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:30,800 it's going to be damning for all of these people. 617 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,760 As previously reported by Law and Crime, the controversy surrounding 618 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,880 Epstein's plea deal dates back to two thousand and seven, 619 00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:43,920 when federal prosecutors in Florida, under the leadership of current 620 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,599 US Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta, who was then the 621 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:52,320 US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida. Acosta's prosecutors 622 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,320 quietly entered to a secretive non prosecution agreement with the 623 00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,599 billionaire pedophile, which ensured that Epstein and his cocaine conspirators 624 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,079 would not be prosecuted federally in exchange for Epstein's guilty 625 00:40:05,079 --> 00:40:10,360 plead a much less serious state prostitution charges. Epstein served 626 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,679 only thirteen months in a county jail, and the prost 627 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:19,119 prostitution charges were made up. You see, folks, you can't 628 00:40:19,159 --> 00:40:22,039 have a prostitute who's under age, right, So how do 629 00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:26,519 you have prostitution charges at all? It was child molestation, 630 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:32,400 child grooming, and child trafficking, point blank period. Additionally, a 631 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,199 Costa's dealer ensured that Epstein's co conspirators were all shielded 632 00:40:36,199 --> 00:40:39,679 from prosecution under what is now viewed as an extraordinarily 633 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,320 unprecedented agreement, and was followed by the FBI's ongoing probe 634 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,000 being shut down. So the probe was shut down too, 635 00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:49,840 by the way. Imagine you're one of these FBI agents 636 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:54,079 who's working on this, and some jerkof suit bureaucrat walks 637 00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:56,360 in and says, well, that's a wrap. Boys, shut it 638 00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:01,719 all down. And again that's why my criticism is mainly 639 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,519 directed at the bureaucrats of the FBI. Folks, Please don't 640 00:41:04,519 --> 00:41:07,320 get that confused. The rank and file agents that are 641 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,239 out there doing their job. I don't have any beef 642 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,960 with them. People are out there doing their job, I 643 00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:15,400 get it. My problem is with the bureaucrats out here 644 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,280 playing games. They'll act like they don't give a damn 645 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,400 about what's going on here, but god forbid you get 646 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,920 on the wrong side of them politically, and they're gonna 647 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:31,440 come after you full bore. Jack Scarola, a former prosecutor 648 00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:34,440 representing one of Epstein's survivors, told The Herald that a 649 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,119 prosecutor's discretion in granting plea deals, while broad, is far 650 00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:42,159 from unlimited. He specifically noted that a defendant's victims have 651 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,400 the right to appeal a plea deal at sentencing. This 652 00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:48,880 was not the case here as Epstein Anacosta's office reached 653 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,920 their plea deal without conferring with any of Epstein's survivors. 654 00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:55,559 And then you wonder why people again are saying this 655 00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:58,960 deal was corrupt. The whole thing is garbage. It's all gross. Well, 656 00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:01,840 this is why, and that's why we're going back and 657 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,880 going over some of these articles and laying the groundwork again. 658 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,639 You know, that stupid ass article from NPR talking about 659 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,519 conspiracy theories when they should be digging into what went 660 00:42:11,559 --> 00:42:14,760 on here really launched me into orbit and send your 661 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,440 boy on basically a crusade where we're gonna go back 662 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,480 and cover all of this again for all of the 663 00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:22,760 new listeners, all of the people who might not have 664 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,360 heard it the first time around, and with a fresh eye, 665 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,840 because if there's anything that's absurd here, if there's anything 666 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:38,480 that's disgusting, it's this sweetheart deal. Courts reject plea deals 667 00:42:38,519 --> 00:42:42,199 when they find them to be unjustifiable and unreasonable, especially 668 00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:44,800 if they are not told the full scope of the agreement, 669 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,519 Scrolla said. He also said separately that Congress did not 670 00:42:48,679 --> 00:42:53,440 contemplate the extraordinary circumstances of this conspiracy between the government 671 00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:56,599 and a serial child molester. I disagree with that. I'm 672 00:42:56,639 --> 00:42:59,639 sure they did, and they don't care point blank how 673 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,360 many times has the government hopped into bed with some 674 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:11,280 disgusting animal. Scrolla previously predicted the Epstein deal would be revoked. 675 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,719 Pac who took over Epstein's case in March, was joined 676 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,679 in submitting Monday's brief by US attorney Jill E. Steinberg 677 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,840 and Nathan P. Kitchens. Once again, folks, you see what's 678 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,320 going on here. You see that this is absurd, and 679 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,800 you see why people are fired up about it. Yet 680 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,320 we have no answers. We don't have any allies in Congress. 681 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,320 Do we have any allies in Congress or the Senate 682 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,800 that want justice here? We sure do not. Nobody calling 683 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:43,000 for hearings, nobody calling for subpoenas, nobody getting their phone 684 00:43:43,039 --> 00:43:47,719 record seized, not a damn thing, and the band just 685 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,880 plays on. So it's left to us to continue to 686 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,840 demand justice. And the best way to do that, the 687 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,320 best way to get people to act when they're being 688 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,679 inactive is to embarrass them. So that's what we'll continue 689 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,719 to do. We'll shine a spotlight on the pispoor job 690 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,880 done by the Department of Justice until they get off there, 691 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,400 do nothing, asses, and get some justice. All right, folks, 692 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,360 it's gonna do it for this episode. If you like 693 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,239 to contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuchi 694 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,559 at ProtonMail dot com. 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