1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Today, we have 2 00:00:05,639 --> 00:00:09,199 a story from another woman who is abused by Jeffrey 3 00:00:09,199 --> 00:00:13,599 Epstein who decided to come out recently and talk about 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,000 what went down. Now. This woman is a resident of 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,760 Long Island. She's thirty seven years old, and her encounters 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,239 with Epstein mimic the other ones that we have seen 7 00:00:26,359 --> 00:00:31,320 throughout history. Jeffrey Epstein, Glenne Maxwell, people in their circle. 8 00:00:31,839 --> 00:00:36,960 They identify vulnerable girls, girls from broken homes, beat up backgrounds, 9 00:00:37,399 --> 00:00:41,920 might not have, you know, the most favorable situation at home, 10 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,079 and these are the girls that they looked for, girls 11 00:00:45,079 --> 00:00:47,960 that have already been abused. You know. These girls would 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,759 confide in Maxwell and Epstein and tell them about their 13 00:00:51,799 --> 00:00:56,399 previous abuse their lives, and then Maxwell and Epstein would 14 00:00:56,479 --> 00:01:01,679 act upon that and use their previous experiences against them 15 00:01:02,039 --> 00:01:05,079 to help them be abused by Maxwell and Epstein in 16 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,040 the future. And it was disgusting as hell the way 17 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,599 they were able to do it for so long. And 18 00:01:13,719 --> 00:01:15,640 this was their mo this is what they would do. 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,920 They'd identify these girls and then they'd move in, they'd 20 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,719 groom them, they'd normalize it, and before you know it, 21 00:01:22,719 --> 00:01:25,599 they were unleashing them on the populast to bring more 22 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,319 girls into the web. So today we have an article 23 00:01:29,359 --> 00:01:32,560 from the Long Island Press and the author of this 24 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:38,159 article is Timothy Bulger. Headlined Long Island woman who survived 25 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:43,400 Jeffrey Epstein's abuse speaks out After enduring abuse while growing 26 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,439 up on Long Island, Kelly Brennan hoped that going away 27 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,000 to college would offer her a fresh start, but instead 28 00:01:50,239 --> 00:01:54,480 she was abused again by Jeffrey Epstein. Brennan, thirty seven, 29 00:01:54,959 --> 00:01:57,480 is the first known Long Islander to have been caught 30 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,879 up in the world of the late financier, victed pedophile 31 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:06,480 and accused international sex trafficking ring Kingpin. Now that's always 32 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,000 funny terminology, right. A ring is a circular object that 33 00:02:11,199 --> 00:02:13,719 goes over your finger, if you will. That's what a 34 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,199 ring is, or what we think of as a ring. Well, 35 00:02:17,319 --> 00:02:20,319 Jeffrey Epstein couldn't be a ring by himself, could he. 36 00:02:20,319 --> 00:02:23,800 He'd have to be a circular object, meaning other people involved. 37 00:02:24,159 --> 00:02:26,199 So where are all of the other people who are 38 00:02:26,199 --> 00:02:28,840 helping him do this, who are helping him facilitate all 39 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,400 of this shit? How is it that they have all 40 00:02:31,439 --> 00:02:36,919 squeaked by? She decided to break her silence in an 41 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,680 effort to raise awareness about sexual abuse and allow her 42 00:02:40,719 --> 00:02:45,240 story to serve as a cautionary tale to others. I 43 00:02:45,319 --> 00:02:48,960 hit rock bottom when the pandemic hit, she exclusively told Press, 44 00:02:49,479 --> 00:02:52,639 everything came flooding back. And we've heard this from a 45 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,879 lot of people as well. A lot of people had 46 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,840 repressed memories of what went down as far as Glenn Maxwell, 47 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,560 Jeffrey Epstein abuse, and when the pandemic hit, people had 48 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,520 a lot of time to sit down and come to 49 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,360 terms and come to grips with their own demons, if 50 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,919 you will, their own issues that they have, you know, 51 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,439 dealt with throughout their lives. A lot of that stuff 52 00:03:15,479 --> 00:03:20,120 can flooding back. Epstein died by suicide allegedly in a 53 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,120 Manhattan federal jail cell in twenty nineteen while pending trial 54 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,800 on sex trafficking charges. Authorities have said Brennan is not 55 00:03:29,879 --> 00:03:32,680 the first local tie to the case, as the Press 56 00:03:32,759 --> 00:03:36,800 is reported, the executors of Epstein's estate include glen Cove 57 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,080 native Darren Endyke, an accountant Richard Kahn, who owns a 58 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,199 home and watermill. The Attorney General of the US Virgin 59 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,000 Islands has accused the duo of being captains in the 60 00:03:48,039 --> 00:03:52,159 alleged scheme. So remember it's Denise George who's calling these 61 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,039 dudes captains. Right, We're not just sitting here pulling that 62 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,319 out of our ass and making things up. I mean, 63 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,599 when you have as many years of court documents as 64 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:04,639 we do in this case, it's what elevates this case 65 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,919 from others, right, a lot of other cases that are 66 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,879 happening in real time. It's a lot of speculation, a 67 00:04:10,879 --> 00:04:13,840 lot of theory here. If you put the pieces together, 68 00:04:14,159 --> 00:04:17,199 it tells you the whole last story. It's just doing 69 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:23,240 the legwork and putting the pieces together. While Brennan's attorney 70 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,519 confirms that she was among the survivors to receive compensation 71 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,879 from Epstein's estate, she said her abuse, while horrific, stops 72 00:04:30,879 --> 00:04:34,279 short of human trafficking. She says, after she was sexually 73 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,040 assaulted by Epstein at age eighteen, introduced to him under 74 00:04:38,079 --> 00:04:40,839 the guise of doing modeling work, she had a mental 75 00:04:40,879 --> 00:04:45,240 breakdown that ultimately removed her from Epstein's orbit. Now, look, 76 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,959 Epstein wasn't above abusing women, right. He had a whole 77 00:04:48,959 --> 00:04:52,079 bunch of different things going on at once. He had 78 00:04:52,079 --> 00:04:55,319 his black mail scheme going on. He had his own proclivities, 79 00:04:55,759 --> 00:04:59,560 and also he knew that the best way to get 80 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,959 these people blunder his thumb was to get them in 81 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,079 a compromising situation. Look, you can beat the whole Oh 82 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,399 I cheated on my wife thing, or I cheated on 83 00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:11,680 my husband. There's no way you're getting out of Oh 84 00:05:11,759 --> 00:05:14,319 you had sex with an underage girl and we have 85 00:05:14,399 --> 00:05:16,959 it on video or we have evidence of it. There's 86 00:05:16,959 --> 00:05:19,399 no way to get out of that. So what bit 87 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,600 of blackmail could you possibly have on somebody that is 88 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,399 more destructive than something like that? So with Epstein, it 89 00:05:28,439 --> 00:05:32,439 wasn't always just about you know, human trafficking, if you will, 90 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,319 selling girls, And that wasn't even the thing. They weren't 91 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,600 receiving money for these girls. It was all about influence, 92 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,399 pedaling and in hopes that these girls would have these 93 00:05:42,399 --> 00:05:45,399 guys talking and in turn they'd get the information that 94 00:05:45,399 --> 00:05:51,519 they were looking for. Meaning Maxwell and Epstein. Here is 95 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,720 her story in her own words. This conversation has been 96 00:05:54,839 --> 00:06:01,079 edited for length and clarity. Jeffrey Epstein abuse survivor beaks out. 97 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,120 So obviously it's in question format. It's an interview here, 98 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,279 So I'll ask the question and then we'll answer it, 99 00:06:08,319 --> 00:06:11,160 and I'll let you know that it's her answering the question, 100 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,680 what was the trigger that made you decide now is 101 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,199 the time to start sharing your story? Response. I know 102 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,680 this is gonna sound weird, but I didn't know Jeffrey 103 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,120 Epstein was Jeffrey Epstein. Then one day we decided to 104 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,519 watch some TV. I put on Netflix and the Epstein 105 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,399 documentary trailer was on. It flipped my entire world upside 106 00:06:33,439 --> 00:06:37,160 down in every way. The girl that introduced me to him, 107 00:06:37,439 --> 00:06:39,240 I just thought that was a girl who wanted to 108 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,240 be my friend. So as I'm watching this, I'm realizing 109 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,720 the girl that introduced me is really a recruiter. I 110 00:06:45,759 --> 00:06:48,079 have proof, and I put it all together. If you 111 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,240 would have asked me four or five years ago, if 112 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,959 I had ever been abused, I probably would have said no. 113 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,360 I would have had the Epstein thing in the back 114 00:06:55,399 --> 00:06:57,800 of my mind, but I know I couldn't say anything 115 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,560 about that. And so so when I'm asked, and people 116 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,120 do it all the time, why now, why you're finding 117 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,519 your voice? And as crazy as this sounds, it's because 118 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,160 I didn't know. And for people who are on the 119 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,600 outside looking in, that sounds kind of weird, right, how 120 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:14,920 don't you know? What the hell? But when you have 121 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:20,279 repressed memories from supreme trauma, it's very difficult to try 122 00:07:20,319 --> 00:07:22,279 and remember that stuff and let it flow back to 123 00:07:22,319 --> 00:07:27,759 the surface. That's why people repress this stuff. How did 124 00:07:27,839 --> 00:07:32,279 being abused as a child play a role? Answer? I 125 00:07:32,319 --> 00:07:34,720 always thought it was my fault. As I got older 126 00:07:34,759 --> 00:07:37,199 and more things happened. I grew up in a very 127 00:07:37,199 --> 00:07:40,480 abusive household, and then as I just asked for help 128 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,800 and went to teachers and they took advantage of me 129 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,560 and we ended up dating, I thought it was my fault. 130 00:07:46,079 --> 00:07:49,439 I mean, what is wrong with people, Like if you're 131 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,519 a teacher and some kid comes to you and they're like, look, 132 00:07:51,519 --> 00:07:53,920 I'm being abused. The first thing you're thinking is, oh, 133 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:58,720 we should have a date. I thought it was my fault. 134 00:07:58,959 --> 00:08:01,519 And then right after that I meet Epstein, and I 135 00:08:01,519 --> 00:08:03,800 think it's my fault because why did I go to 136 00:08:03,839 --> 00:08:06,279 the city. I shouldn't have went to the city. You 137 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:09,120 don't go with strangers, you don't do this stuff. So 138 00:08:09,319 --> 00:08:12,519 for a really long time, I just blame myself. And 139 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,839 then as I was watching the documentary, everything hit me 140 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,720 that I never stood a chance with all of it. 141 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:21,800 None of the stuff that happened prior was normal, None 142 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,079 of that was okay, And I had to kind of 143 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,759 accept that. And when you start coming to terms with 144 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:32,919 the abuse and with your situation, all of those old 145 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:35,799 and bad, repressed memories, they just come back and they 146 00:08:35,879 --> 00:08:40,279 hit you at once. Are you tight? And we've heard 147 00:08:40,279 --> 00:08:42,440 this story from a lot of these women who have 148 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,879 went through trauma, not just in the Epstein case, but 149 00:08:45,039 --> 00:08:48,159 in general. People who have suffered abuse, they repress it. 150 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,399 What aspects of Epstein's story do you feel are underreported 151 00:08:54,799 --> 00:08:59,600 or being ignored? Answer? He picked out the vulnerable. I've 152 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,240 done real search on this, and almost every single one 153 00:09:02,279 --> 00:09:06,080 of us was either sexually abused, physically abused, or neglected. 154 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,759 They had some horrific event. It blinds you, it does, 155 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,720 and it also makes you willing to accept a little 156 00:09:12,759 --> 00:09:15,639 bit more than other people might be willing to accept. 157 00:09:16,279 --> 00:09:19,000 Your circumstances are so bad. At home, you see a 158 00:09:19,039 --> 00:09:21,279 little light at the end of the tunnel. Someone's offering 159 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,360 you a few hundred bucks for a massage. Look, it's 160 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:26,600 go time. I don't have anything at home, or do 161 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,759 I have waiting for me? A drunken dad, an abusive mom. 162 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,840 So yeah, there's a lot of trauma and there's a 163 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,080 lot of shit that needs to be worked out for people. Man, 164 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:41,279 how did he manipulate the modeling audition? Answer? He created 165 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,799 situations where he just funneled you to where you want. 166 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,200 That made it seem like you had free will. But 167 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,960 at the end of the day, no matter, he didn't 168 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,279 give you an option. There was no option for me 169 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,159 to say no the first time he assaulted me on 170 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,440 that first day. Then he's calling me a prude. And 171 00:09:57,519 --> 00:09:59,480 if you're going to be in the modeling industry, you 172 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,320 have to be, you know, a lot more open and 173 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,759 you have to get used to things like that. And 174 00:10:04,879 --> 00:10:07,879 so I just started thinking, well, maybe maybe he's right, 175 00:10:08,279 --> 00:10:11,679 Maybe that's just how the modeling industry is. Well, that 176 00:10:11,799 --> 00:10:14,080 is how the modeling industry is, or at least was 177 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,720 according to all of these people, and that shit needs 178 00:10:17,759 --> 00:10:20,799 to change. Another thing that I always say, how is 179 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,240 it that these dudes are owning these modeling agencies, old 180 00:10:24,279 --> 00:10:26,679 ass men who have nothing to do with fashion or industry. 181 00:10:26,759 --> 00:10:29,759 All of a sudden, you own a modeling agency. Now 182 00:10:29,759 --> 00:10:31,840 I get it, you're a former model or something like 183 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,799 that you're in the industry. Fine, but these dudes own 184 00:10:34,879 --> 00:10:38,559 like pageants and the Miss USA so weird to me. 185 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:45,039 What are you doing, bro? How are you recruited? Answer? 186 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,399 I didn't sign up for anything. Somebody very nicely offered 187 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,200 to get me a job interview, and I went and 188 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,559 then I was forced locked in a room with a 189 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,120 person and they do whatever they want. Now I see 190 00:10:57,159 --> 00:10:59,399 how easy it is for someone to manipulate or take 191 00:10:59,399 --> 00:11:02,919 advantage of. I thought he was nice, he's very charismatic 192 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,080 and all of that in the beginning, helpful and the 193 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,600 great host and all that crap. It made me feel 194 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,000 almost indebted. I remember not wanting to do it and 195 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,879 just being like, no, I don't have a ride, and 196 00:11:14,919 --> 00:11:17,080 they said, we'll send a car for you. We'll do 197 00:11:17,159 --> 00:11:20,519 it on the weekend around your schedule. And they never 198 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,559 let you leave. You always schedule the next thing before 199 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,799 the last thing ended. So you just kind of get 200 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,759 hooked into this and before you can even rationalize what's 201 00:11:28,799 --> 00:11:33,960 going on, you find yourself locked into this nonsense. And 202 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:39,960 that's how the spider web works. How did you get out? 203 00:11:41,039 --> 00:11:43,639 I had a complete mental breakdown, ended up in the 204 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,919 hospital and literally just got caught out that entire part 205 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,120 of my life in every way. How have you moved 206 00:11:50,159 --> 00:11:53,240 on since? Answer? I worked with my dad for about 207 00:11:53,279 --> 00:11:57,200 ten years. That's in live entertainment. Our clients were theaters 208 00:11:57,279 --> 00:12:00,559 like sports venues and stuff like that. But then COVID 209 00:12:00,639 --> 00:12:04,639 happened and all of that shut down, so I ended 210 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,399 up losing the consulting business. So I made this my 211 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,279 focus once I finally kind of got better. So I'm 212 00:12:10,279 --> 00:12:14,159 trying to sexually trying to sexual assault and mental health 213 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,000 advocate at this point. So her new gig is after 214 00:12:18,039 --> 00:12:20,639 the pandemic, she's trying to help out other people who 215 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:22,840 went through this. And you see that from a lot 216 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,960 of these women or men even who suffer this trauma, 217 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,679 they decide that they want to give back and help 218 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,799 people who were in the same position that they were in. 219 00:12:32,039 --> 00:12:37,159 What have you learned from this? I've learned to take 220 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:40,039 good in the bad and all of that. I've been 221 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,600 sharing a lot more about my Epstein story and all that, 222 00:12:42,919 --> 00:12:45,039 but like I said, there was a lot more that 223 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,639 happened prior to that. A lot of people failed me. 224 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,720 Somewhere along the line should have noticed something and helped me, 225 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,399 whether it was a teacher, a community member, you know, 226 00:12:54,519 --> 00:12:57,879 or religious whatever, fire department, the police, a social worker, 227 00:12:58,039 --> 00:13:01,039 anything somewhere along the line, and someone should have helped me. 228 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,120 And if at any point anybody did, my life would 229 00:13:04,159 --> 00:13:07,200 have been drastically different. And I don't think any kid 230 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,480 should have to go through that. So I just want 231 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,279 to make sure that's fixed now so that kids people 232 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,639 can just grow up and know that sometimes parents or 233 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,399 things don't do what they should be doing, but there's 234 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,919 someone else out there or something else out there to 235 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,600 help prevent this from going on. And we're gonna hear 236 00:13:25,639 --> 00:13:28,000 a lot more of these stories, folks, as the days 237 00:13:28,039 --> 00:13:30,440 and the weeks and the months move on. More women, 238 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,679 more people who have been abused. They're gonna come to 239 00:13:32,759 --> 00:13:35,759 grips with what happened, and they're gonna come forward with 240 00:13:35,799 --> 00:13:38,679 their stories. So we'll continue to add them to the 241 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,799 catalog and we'll continue to talk about how this piece 242 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,440 of shit Jeffrey Epstein was able to do this for 243 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:49,320 all of these years with no repercussions. If you'd like 244 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,840 to contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuci 245 00:13:51,919 --> 00:13:55,600 at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bo b b Y c 246 00:13:55,799 --> 00:14:00,360 apu Cci at ProtonMail dot com. Can also find me 247 00:14:00,399 --> 00:14:03,960 on Twitter at b O b b Y underscore c 248 00:14:04,039 --> 00:14:06,879 A p U c c I. The link that I 249 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,679 discussed can be found in the description box.