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<v Speaker 1>Steve Rivera, he's got his Eye on the Ball on

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<v Speaker 1>Tucson Sports Station yet Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to Iron the Ball Here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Dave Silver, your ray.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you have breaking news.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Eye on the Ball, breaking news on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports fourteen fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I mean obviously big one tomorrow is that

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona is going to be playing in the UH Men's

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<v Speaker 3>College World Series.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have, Dave, anything that you've seen so far,

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<v Speaker 2>like eazy dosers one or whatever?

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<v Speaker 4>Where the starters? Yes, just the starters you have to start?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, shout out to a friend of the show, Brian

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<v Speaker 3>Peterson for posting these on Twitter. But Arizona's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be starting Kremkowski, which makes sense.

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<v Speaker 4>They're number one righte and.

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<v Speaker 3>Coastal Carolina is actually I don't know if it's not

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<v Speaker 3>their number one. I saw a guy that had it

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<v Speaker 3>looked like he had better SATs on D one baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>But they will be starting a right handed Riley Acoff.

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<v Speaker 3>He's six six and two two point ninety a r

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<v Speaker 3>A the guy I thought that they would be starting,

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<v Speaker 3>though it was Jacob Morrison.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a sophomore eleven to zero two fifteen e r A. Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>but yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they're just he's not starting. No, the sophomore is

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<v Speaker 3>not starting. It's gonna be Riley Acoff. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if that's how you're saying his name. I hope so.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's weird because a call it says he last

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<v Speaker 5>pitched versus East Carolina on the first of June, so

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<v Speaker 5>it's been a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe he's not their best guy. Maybe just has

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<v Speaker 2>good stuff against you know, the other guys.

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<v Speaker 6>I may have won twenty three straight games, the hottest

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<v Speaker 6>team coming in. You know they're gonna go into the

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<v Speaker 6>Wildcats tomorrow. Well, in the land of momento, haven't lost

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<v Speaker 6>since April twenty seconds, so it's been a while.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, they pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>With me or against me on the land of momentum

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<v Speaker 2>to do for a loss so that it goes your momentum.

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<v Speaker 4>Wild Cats have some moment I'm going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so you okay, So now it's the doing momentum.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just I don't know, like when it cut like

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<v Speaker 3>when it I think there's a good thing and a

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<v Speaker 3>bad thing when the team comes in too hot to something,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's always at one time. That's what we always

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<v Speaker 4>think about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's like you play poker at all of

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit when people go all in, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>rare that then many times they win until because what

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<v Speaker 2>the last time they do that?

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<v Speaker 4>Because then thes no.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, the key here is if the U can

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<v Speaker 6>get ahead, they are thirty eight and oh when they're

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<v Speaker 6>headed in the eight, they're head in the eighth inning.

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<v Speaker 4>They've got they got a great closer.

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<v Speaker 6>And so if that can get to that point, they're

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<v Speaker 6>twelve and one in one run games all season. So

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<v Speaker 6>they get the lead, get the lead and hang on.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was so crazy last week because they had

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<v Speaker 2>the lead. They didn't have the lead.

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<v Speaker 4>That was on Saturday in the middle game was wild.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, and it yeah, they've just been playing the

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah they come from Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't believe.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe in I don't believe in momentum, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe in destiny. There's a part where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>things just happen to get you a certain places, like dude, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>second basement, nine out of ten, gets out, ten out

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<v Speaker 2>of ten, gets there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he didn't get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Some god some baseball got up there said okay, let's

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<v Speaker 2>get him through.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's baseball, and that really is baseball. You hear

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<v Speaker 6>those stories. I mean it goes back just legendary stories

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<v Speaker 6>through the years in the history of the sport. Some

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<v Speaker 6>guy makes some crazy ara that you never expect and

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<v Speaker 6>that just happens. But there you go. That's probably the

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<v Speaker 6>number one in our lifetime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you can we can probably go through a

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<v Speaker 2>number of them. But you know, these things that happened

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<v Speaker 2>that never happened, and.

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<v Speaker 6>Especially in baseball, like like Rick was saying in the call,

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<v Speaker 6>just it's one of those sports you just from game

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<v Speaker 6>to game, you go, you lose eighteen to two, and

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<v Speaker 6>you come back and you win the next day.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the coach still brought it up. War is it?

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<v Speaker 7>War?

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<v Speaker 4>Kevin? Kevin one?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean your best your best hitter at the time

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<v Speaker 2>he gets it dies back to Ken Kevin, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>and he gets hurt and you don't. Okay, that's just

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<v Speaker 2>a normal plane all of a sudden turns the trajectory

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<v Speaker 2>of the other seasons at the most important time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean sports, God's given you take it the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>keeping it going on the track and field right now,

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<v Speaker 3>Zach Eckstein advances to one hundred and ten meter hurdles

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<v Speaker 3>finals or one hundred and ten meter hurdle finals, and

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<v Speaker 3>he advanced on the on day one of the NCAA Championship.

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<v Speaker 6>So another event in Eugene, right. I was watching some

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<v Speaker 6>of that last night. It's amazing how they can host everything.

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<v Speaker 6>They got the best track in the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Man Man Nike money, mister Knight. Oh, this is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a funny one. Uh so it says to this

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<v Speaker 3>from the Arizona Border Regions. Today the board officially approved

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<v Speaker 3>coach Burke's contract to be the head coach.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it was did they did they up it?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they were trying to approve it even more,

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<v Speaker 2>improve it a little bit more. But yeah, I saw

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<v Speaker 2>that that was on the agenda of.

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<v Speaker 4>The Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>It just reminds me of like, that's such a summer

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<v Speaker 5>thing five year now.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean it's like, uh, does it say how much?

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<v Speaker 8>Six seventy five six? I think that was the original. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>that's half of what she was making. Idea, they'll be

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<v Speaker 8>fine they'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 4>She'll survive.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, three hundred and twenty five thousand dollars base salary,

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<v Speaker 6>three hundred and fifty for additional duties. That makes total

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<v Speaker 6>sense for twenty five thousand dollars signing bonus, twenty five

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<v Speaker 6>thousand dollars annual salary escalators through twenty twenty nine to thirty.

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<v Speaker 6>You signed one of these contracts. Yeah, My deals were

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<v Speaker 6>just like that. What's an escalator?

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<v Speaker 9>Like?

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<v Speaker 4>My escalator took me out the door.

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<v Speaker 2>Mine were like that, just minus a couple of decimal points.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. That's good though.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I think we're all kind of waiting for

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<v Speaker 6>the pale extension and and and Caitlin Low if that's

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<v Speaker 6>gonna happen. I mean, you know, maybe here in the

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<v Speaker 6>next week.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Desiree keeps saying, well, when we have the news, we'll

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<v Speaker 6>let you out. Yeah, which is a nice way of saying,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, leave me alone.

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<v Speaker 4>She was on Channel Night last night. I did a

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<v Speaker 4>story on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was watching and I really watched Channel Line

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<v Speaker 2>just because I come on, I'm used to it.

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<v Speaker 4>Used to in the old days.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to. I'm sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about the the shared revenue story.

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<v Speaker 4>You put it all and stuff. You know the same story.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna take care of our you know, our Olympic

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<v Speaker 2>sports people. We're concerned for them. We're not gonna lose

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<v Speaker 2>any sports things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, keep it going, uh man. I was gonna

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<v Speaker 3>try to find how how Howard boy Zachary Puyo is doing,

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<v Speaker 3>but he lost them on the leaderboard. Keep it moving

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<v Speaker 3>on the links though, that's a tough name. Sarah Beata

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<v Speaker 3>sec is competing in the Florida Women's Amateur in today.

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<v Speaker 4>So got some Shia Yue.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, women's golf player for the Kaud of the University.

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<v Speaker 6>He had a good year, no satin So Zachary the

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<v Speaker 6>golfer is at plus two through thirteen holes. So that's

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<v Speaker 6>that's respectable, at least tied for thirty sevenths. He's ahead

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<v Speaker 6>of guys like Rory and Scheffler.

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<v Speaker 2>So so if you were to ask me the same

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<v Speaker 2>question about you know, big moments and things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>I think in this situation it would be kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like here I am, I'm a you know, sophomore or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you say, I'm among these guys and I pinched myself.

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<v Speaker 4>And say, damn, this is fantastic. Yeah, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, that's kind of one of the beauties of of

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<v Speaker 6>like golf and tennis, when you can get into an

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<v Speaker 6>event like this in areas in the US Open, he qualified,

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<v Speaker 6>he's an amateur. Still, he's still on a student and

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's in these moments.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, these moments you cannot.

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<v Speaker 6>Say, oh yeah, I mean I would think, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>he's showing quite a lot of poise to go out

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<v Speaker 6>there and play alongside these guys in a championship like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel like you see it a lot too,

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<v Speaker 3>And well maybe not a lot, but you see it

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<v Speaker 3>every maybe like half decade or decade or so. In soccer,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean this is yeah, I mean you see Lemina

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<v Speaker 3>mal right now he's seventeen. It's like, dude, you can't

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<v Speaker 3>even buy a beer in Europe, you know, like playing

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<v Speaker 3>for like millions of euros like.

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<v Speaker 4>That happens a lot in soccer though.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what was the dude from DC sixteen? Freddy ad

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<v Speaker 2>ready a dude, great pick up with that name, Yeah sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>This is twenty one older, longer than older than you, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three.

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<v Speaker 4>Years ago too. Yeah, and it's just like, man, are

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<v Speaker 4>you a big soccer fan?

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<v Speaker 5>H I keep up with it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't say I'll watch all of it, but I

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<v Speaker 3>tried my best to keep up with it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, because isn't there some controversy because like a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of the top players are not playing for our US

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<v Speaker 6>team right now. Yeah, and we just got smoked by

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<v Speaker 6>was it Switzerland?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Switzerland kind of did all of North America dirty.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they'd be in Mexico too, But.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean we're a year away from the World Cup

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<v Speaker 6>and everyone's saying, oh, wait a second, why are.

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<v Speaker 4>Our top players playing for our team? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's one because it's a friendly two Gold

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<v Speaker 3>Cups starts on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 5>I know it starts the fourteenth. I'm pretty sure that's.

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<v Speaker 4>They'll play there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because that's like the it's the real like kind

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<v Speaker 3>of last preparation, because the way soccer goes is for

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<v Speaker 3>everybody who doesn't know, it's uh the summer is the

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<v Speaker 3>international break. So that's when you see like the team,

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<v Speaker 3>like the countries play against each other, compared to uh,

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, the Pacers beat the Thunder yesterday in game three,

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<v Speaker 4>Which you would have catched one tenth. I would have

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<v Speaker 6>Now it's like didn't jay Z have a huge bet going?

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<v Speaker 4>The bet.

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<v Speaker 6>He launched a million dollars? Well was the bet with

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<v Speaker 4>Oh last night? Uh? Yeah, jeez, like you're going, I'll

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<v Speaker 6>He's living a hard knock life. Yeah, that's like twin

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<v Speaker 2>doing exactly what he does. Yeah, it was great. It

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kaok, Captain Chaos or whatever it was, because

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I saw that, which is pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sometimes you're the star shines on you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Jay Z did bet a million for the Thunder to

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<v Speaker 4>Y, Yes did he. I guess he had. That's ten

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<v Speaker 4>It's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting point though, that our interesting kind of clip of

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<v Speaker 3>it up when it comes to the late game fatigue,

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<v Speaker 3>which is interesting. I mean Pacers, you know, that's kind

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<v Speaker 4>So I think, Okay, she's still gonna win it all.

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<v Speaker 4>Really Okay, So his defense has been good.

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<v Speaker 6>But not not last night and fourteen whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>A hold of a hold of what I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to I on the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>is Dave Silver. Now on the phone. We have a

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<v Speaker 4>How are you doing, David? Great?

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<v Speaker 16>Great, Great to be on with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had some great people. Thanks for joining us. Talking

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<v Speaker 2>the day. I read in your MLB you played three

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<v Speaker 16>lot of pride in my defense, as I always did

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00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:44.240
<v Speaker 16>even in college and pro ball. So but you know,

432
00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:47.279
<v Speaker 16>that's that was probably the strength of my game.

433
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<v Speaker 4>Let's go back to eighty six.

434
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<v Speaker 6>You know, it was a big year for the for

435
00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:54.359
<v Speaker 6>the baseball program, and it was just a big moment

436
00:19:54.359 --> 00:19:56.720
<v Speaker 6>for the team and so many great players on that team.

437
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<v Speaker 6>What are your your memories of Omaha especially, but maybe

438
00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:02.279
<v Speaker 6>each just that season in general, and how you got

439
00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:04.519
<v Speaker 6>to that point where you were playing for the national Championship.

440
00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:06.799
<v Speaker 16>Well, I mean, I just remember because I wasn't really

441
00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:08.880
<v Speaker 16>part of the eighty five's on the eighty five team,

442
00:20:08.920 --> 00:20:11.720
<v Speaker 16>but I wasn't really playing because I was hurt, And

443
00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:15.079
<v Speaker 16>you know, I just remember the team doing well enough

444
00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:18.720
<v Speaker 16>to get to the World Series and just my strong

445
00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:21.279
<v Speaker 16>desire to come back and participate in that and be

446
00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:24.680
<v Speaker 16>a part of that in eighty six, which I kind

447
00:20:24.680 --> 00:20:27.400
<v Speaker 16>of slid in it shortstop, and then they moved Tommy

448
00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:30.079
<v Speaker 16>to Hens out to second and Chip over to third

449
00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:33.839
<v Speaker 16>and and kind of solidified the infield a little bit.

450
00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:37.839
<v Speaker 16>But I just remember us starting out hot, hitting a

451
00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:41.039
<v Speaker 16>little cold spell, and then getting hot. And one of

452
00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:46.000
<v Speaker 16>the things I remember most is right before the World Series.

453
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<v Speaker 16>The regional started, was was coach Kendle coming in and

454
00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:53.480
<v Speaker 16>saying we had four games left, one with Grand Canyon

455
00:20:53.519 --> 00:20:56.160
<v Speaker 16>and three with Arizona State. And I just remember him

456
00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:57.920
<v Speaker 16>saying that we need to win three out of these

457
00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:01.119
<v Speaker 16>four games to get original bid. And I remember beating

458
00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:06.680
<v Speaker 16>Grand Canyon and then absolutely destroying Arizona State, uh, three

459
00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:09.480
<v Speaker 16>straight games at home, and and we were just on

460
00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:12.039
<v Speaker 16>absolute fire. And that's why I told Chip Or I

461
00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:15.599
<v Speaker 16>texted Chip and and tripped the coach there.

462
00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:17.240
<v Speaker 4>I just said that this.

463
00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:19.400
<v Speaker 16>This team right now that they have seems to remind

464
00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:21.319
<v Speaker 16>me of the momentum we had when they went in

465
00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:25.799
<v Speaker 16>that regional and absolutely, uh you know about thirteen fourteen

466
00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:29.440
<v Speaker 16>bombs and and and two games or three games was

467
00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:32.200
<v Speaker 16>was pretty much a pretty good spark to indicate that

468
00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:36.039
<v Speaker 16>they're they're ready to go. So uh took the blast.

469
00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:38.440
<v Speaker 16>I just, you know, the big the biggest thing about

470
00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:39.920
<v Speaker 16>that I told I was talking to someone the other day,

471
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<v Speaker 16>The biggest thing about any team I've ever played on

472
00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:46.880
<v Speaker 16>is just just that you spend all year playing together,

473
00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:48.920
<v Speaker 16>going through ups and downs, and and to be able

474
00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:51.200
<v Speaker 16>to just dogpile everybody at the end of the season.

475
00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:55.640
<v Speaker 16>Is the absolute best feeling in sports, and it's worth

476
00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:57.799
<v Speaker 16>it more than anything.

477
00:21:58.119 --> 00:21:59.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we'll go back to that in a second.

478
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<v Speaker 2>But you're twenty one, twenty two maybe at this time,

479
00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:07.119
<v Speaker 2>and and you're a ballplayer among a lot of good ballplayers.

480
00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:10.079
<v Speaker 2>Did you think this Chip guy pretty good could be

481
00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:11.240
<v Speaker 2>a pretty good coach one day?

482
00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:12.200
<v Speaker 16>Oh?

483
00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:12.640
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely?

484
00:22:12.720 --> 00:22:17.319
<v Speaker 16>Chip was always kind of a coach Kendall's right hand

485
00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:20.799
<v Speaker 16>man in terms of they were they were in sync

486
00:22:20.839 --> 00:22:23.240
<v Speaker 16>all the time, and and and honestly, the one thing

487
00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:26.920
<v Speaker 16>about Chip is that back then when you didn't have

488
00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:29.519
<v Speaker 16>online school and and any of these things. I mean,

489
00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:32.640
<v Speaker 16>he's a great ballplayer, smart ball player, but he's the

490
00:22:32.680 --> 00:22:35.200
<v Speaker 16>one kid that went out there and got the got

491
00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:38.039
<v Speaker 16>the grades done and got the school work done. And

492
00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:40.920
<v Speaker 16>I think he graduated in four years. And and you know,

493
00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:42.319
<v Speaker 16>I had a lot of respect for him in that

494
00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:45.119
<v Speaker 16>in that regard as well, but it definitely heads up,

495
00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:47.319
<v Speaker 16>smart ball player, got the most out of his ability.

496
00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:50.960
<v Speaker 16>And and you know he is Coach Kendle's clone.

497
00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:53.960
<v Speaker 6>Did you ever cross pass with him professionally? Did you

498
00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:56.400
<v Speaker 6>ever play for him or around him?

499
00:22:56.720 --> 00:22:58.440
<v Speaker 16>We we kind of, you know, I think we ran

500
00:22:58.480 --> 00:23:00.559
<v Speaker 16>into each other and trip Awa he was playing in

501
00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:02.400
<v Speaker 16>Portland and I was probably playing in Tucson.

502
00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:04.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so we we.

503
00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:06.079
<v Speaker 16>Came across, not not too frequently, because I think the

504
00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:08.960
<v Speaker 16>Twins are outside of Triple A. They were always kind

505
00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:12.200
<v Speaker 16>of on the in some other league. So that was

506
00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:14.200
<v Speaker 16>about the only time we really crossed paths. And he

507
00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:15.920
<v Speaker 16>was in the American League and I was in the

508
00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:18.960
<v Speaker 16>National League for the most part, so but but a

509
00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:19.599
<v Speaker 16>couple of times.

510
00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:22.279
<v Speaker 2>So I'm sure you've will followed him at least recently

511
00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:24.839
<v Speaker 2>pretty closely. And what do you think about this team?

512
00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:27.519
<v Speaker 2>Although you kind of already compared them to the eighty sixteen,

513
00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I I, you know.

514
00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:31.839
<v Speaker 16>I just like their you know, especially way they're playing now,

515
00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:35.160
<v Speaker 16>their resiliency, you know, even watching I spent a lot

516
00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:38.039
<v Speaker 16>of time watching them when I can. I've come down

517
00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:40.920
<v Speaker 16>to My daughter just graduated from Arizona, so we would

518
00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:44.200
<v Speaker 16>go down to watch them play here and there. We

519
00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:47.599
<v Speaker 16>actually went to Houston and watched them really kind of

520
00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:52.279
<v Speaker 16>get going in that tournament. But you know, I just

521
00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:54.839
<v Speaker 16>like their the way they're playing, resilient wise in terms

522
00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:58.480
<v Speaker 16>of the last renal, even in North Carolina when they

523
00:23:58.480 --> 00:24:02.319
<v Speaker 16>were down two to one, down for to two and

524
00:24:02.440 --> 00:24:04.960
<v Speaker 16>just kept coming back, even you know, on the road.

525
00:24:05.079 --> 00:24:12.039
<v Speaker 16>So I see a lot of talented players. Summer Hill Aaron,

526
00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:16.000
<v Speaker 16>I call him, uh Mason White. So they've got some

527
00:24:16.119 --> 00:24:19.039
<v Speaker 16>talented players too that are fun to watch. And it

528
00:24:19.079 --> 00:24:22.400
<v Speaker 16>just seems like everybody kind of picks their moment to contribute,

529
00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:25.920
<v Speaker 16>so real excited about what they've done and hopefully what

530
00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:26.519
<v Speaker 16>they're gonna do.

531
00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:30.640
<v Speaker 2>It's funny, you've been on countless of teams through your career.

532
00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:32.720
<v Speaker 2>I think some of the special ones are the ones

533
00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:35.279
<v Speaker 2>that have that chemistry and and you were on a

534
00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:38.079
<v Speaker 2>number of those. To me, and having never covered this

535
00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:40.680
<v Speaker 2>baseball team, uh that you can kind of see it

536
00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:43.240
<v Speaker 2>even through the TV that there's that chemistry and and

537
00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:46.160
<v Speaker 2>good teams have that some confidence.

538
00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:50.480
<v Speaker 16>Absolutely, you know, and I don't think I think it's

539
00:24:50.519 --> 00:24:51.319
<v Speaker 16>just kind of a mixture.

540
00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:51.599
<v Speaker 4>You know.

541
00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:53.559
<v Speaker 16>It seems like even when I look back at our team,

542
00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:54.960
<v Speaker 16>you know, you had your kind of guys that were

543
00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:58.599
<v Speaker 16>a little wild, You had your uh good good goodie

544
00:24:58.599 --> 00:25:01.119
<v Speaker 16>two shoe guys and out of your middle roads, and

545
00:25:01.119 --> 00:25:03.000
<v Speaker 16>it seems like you need to have that little bit

546
00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:06.200
<v Speaker 16>of friction out there to kind of really bond and

547
00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:10.400
<v Speaker 16>get you know, moving forward. So you know, I don't

548
00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:13.119
<v Speaker 16>know this team on that level, but I'm assuming there's

549
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:14.960
<v Speaker 16>a little bit of everything in there as well. So

550
00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:17.559
<v Speaker 16>but it does seem to some of the best teams

551
00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:19.720
<v Speaker 16>I've played on have a nice kind of blend of

552
00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:20.799
<v Speaker 16>different personalities.

553
00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:24.119
<v Speaker 6>I was just looking at the you know, the results

554
00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:26.319
<v Speaker 6>of the of the eighty six season, and you guys

555
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:28.759
<v Speaker 6>scored like over twenty runs I don't know, like ten

556
00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:31.160
<v Speaker 6>times that season. So you had some offense and you

557
00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:32.920
<v Speaker 6>took that with you all the way to Omaha. But

558
00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:35.640
<v Speaker 6>maybe the biggest moment was the was the Dave shechrmatt

559
00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:36.200
<v Speaker 6>home run?

560
00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:37.079
<v Speaker 4>Do you agree with that?

561
00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:40.440
<v Speaker 6>And where were you standing or sitting when that all happened.

562
00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:44.559
<v Speaker 16>I was in the dugout. It was kind of it

563
00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:46.319
<v Speaker 16>was kind of funny because we were in such a

564
00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:50.400
<v Speaker 16>hot roll all the way up into the World Series

565
00:25:50.480 --> 00:25:53.440
<v Speaker 16>and that was just kind of a for whatever reason,

566
00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:57.400
<v Speaker 16>that was just a flat game for us, and it

567
00:25:57.440 --> 00:25:59.640
<v Speaker 16>was just like things just weren't kind of clicking that

568
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:01.440
<v Speaker 16>day and it didn't seem like, you know, we were

569
00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:05.279
<v Speaker 16>there and I think there was you know, this was

570
00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:07.359
<v Speaker 16>funny thing was there was some you could tell there

571
00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:09.880
<v Speaker 16>was people a little down in the dug aff when

572
00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:11.880
<v Speaker 16>it happened, and it was just to me, it was

573
00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:14.079
<v Speaker 16>just amazing that he came off the bench because I

574
00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:15.839
<v Speaker 16>pinch hit a lot when I was in the major

575
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:19.480
<v Speaker 16>leagues and know how difficult that is, and to see

576
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:24.799
<v Speaker 16>him he literally took five straight pitches. He didn't swing once.

577
00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:28.240
<v Speaker 16>You know, you took three balls and two strikes, and

578
00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:31.000
<v Speaker 16>you're just like, you better swing something, and you know,

579
00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:34.400
<v Speaker 16>sure enough when he did. It was I think that

580
00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:38.319
<v Speaker 16>just reinvigorated us to get back on track, which we

581
00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:41.720
<v Speaker 16>did in the next game too, But it was certainly

582
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:43.720
<v Speaker 16>a shot in the arm to get us back on track.

583
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:45.559
<v Speaker 16>But we were on fire up until that game.

584
00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:49.000
<v Speaker 6>If I remember too, it was was it close to midnight?

585
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:52.680
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it was really late. If I recall, it

586
00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:54.200
<v Speaker 6>have been a long day of baseball.

587
00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:57.799
<v Speaker 16>I couldn't couldn't remember. I couldn't even remember that.

588
00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:00.119
<v Speaker 4>But when you're playing baseball, the time.

589
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:02.160
<v Speaker 16>Day, at night or whatever doesn't seem to matter because

590
00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:06.440
<v Speaker 16>you're probably usually sleeping in pretty good. But I don't recall,

591
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:09.720
<v Speaker 16>But no, it was. It really was a trigger to

592
00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:10.960
<v Speaker 16>kind of get us back on track.

593
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:15.759
<v Speaker 2>So I asked Coach did earlier just about Jerry coach

594
00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Kendall a couple of things, just personality and stuff. He

595
00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:22.119
<v Speaker 2>probably didn't have those raw, raw speeches for you guys,

596
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:24.400
<v Speaker 2>But what do you think And you saw it when

597
00:27:24.440 --> 00:27:25.960
<v Speaker 2>you guys when he won the title.

598
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:27.680
<v Speaker 4>Did it? What did it mean to him?

599
00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:27.960
<v Speaker 17>Yeah?

600
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:29.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he didn't go crazy. He's a lot like

601
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Luke just ah shucks, we went again kind of thing.

602
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.839
<v Speaker 4>How was it? I don't know.

603
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:37.839
<v Speaker 16>He just had a he had a quiet confidence. He

604
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:42.839
<v Speaker 16>was always steady, Like you said, he would never never

605
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:45.200
<v Speaker 16>get too emotional. But I think, you know, it was

606
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.000
<v Speaker 16>almost as if and even while I was there, because

607
00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:49.680
<v Speaker 16>you know, they won in seventy six and we won

608
00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:53.039
<v Speaker 16>an eighty. It it's you know, and thinking about how

609
00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:55.839
<v Speaker 16>long it took for the next team in twenty twelve

610
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:56.640
<v Speaker 16>from eighty six.

611
00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:57.559
<v Speaker 4>But it was almost like this.

612
00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:02.079
<v Speaker 16>You know, he expected us to perform and play at

613
00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:06.000
<v Speaker 16>that level. And but you know, he was just always

614
00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:11.200
<v Speaker 16>a very steady, calming, uh individual, didn't get too emotional,

615
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:13.440
<v Speaker 16>which I think helps, you know, I think that's important

616
00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:17.400
<v Speaker 16>as a coach, is that your players don't see panic

617
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:20.799
<v Speaker 16>in you. And he was just you know, very you know,

618
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:25.200
<v Speaker 16>always instructive and guiding, but I think that's the biggest

619
00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:26.920
<v Speaker 16>thing about him. He was you know, there was an

620
00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:29.200
<v Speaker 16>expectation that we were going to perform at a high level,

621
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:32.799
<v Speaker 16>and he wasn't going to get emotional up or down.

622
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:35.079
<v Speaker 16>But you could tell, you know, you certainly didn't want

623
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:36.920
<v Speaker 16>to cross him either. He had a he had a

624
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:38.720
<v Speaker 16>sternness to him when it was necessary.

625
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Right. No that with saying that, let me say this.

626
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:43.480
<v Speaker 2>I say covered loot for a long time. Everybody knows

627
00:28:43.519 --> 00:28:47.960
<v Speaker 2>this and in the books I've written in very really

628
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:51.559
<v Speaker 2>the guys loved playing for him, respected the hell out

629
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 2>of him.

630
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:52.599
<v Speaker 4>And one of the.

631
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Things that Loop brought was that you didn't want the

632
00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:58.559
<v Speaker 2>guys to say, you don't want to disappoint your your grandfather,

633
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:01.880
<v Speaker 2>and it was like playing for your grandfather and he's

634
00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:04.240
<v Speaker 2>the last guy you don't want to disappoint. How was

635
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:07.039
<v Speaker 2>it planning for him because you probably respected him like

636
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:09.880
<v Speaker 2>crazy and just didn't want to disappoint him.

637
00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:12.759
<v Speaker 16>I think that's I think that's an important part of

638
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:15.240
<v Speaker 16>any being a great manager, is that you don't have

639
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:16.519
<v Speaker 16>to force it on on.

640
00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:18.319
<v Speaker 4>Your your players. But you're You're right.

641
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 16>I think there's this maybe not just your grandfather, but

642
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:25.160
<v Speaker 16>your father you don't want to let him down. You know,

643
00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:29.680
<v Speaker 16>he believes in you and and he's encouraging you, and

644
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<v Speaker 16>I think that just shows a lot of respect for

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<v Speaker 16>the players, you know, is that you know you're if

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<v Speaker 16>if the team loses or if you perform poorly, you

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<v Speaker 16>feel bad for the coach because he's you know, put

648
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<v Speaker 16>so much into you and trust you and leaves in

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<v Speaker 16>you and so. But yeah, he's certainly one of those

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<v Speaker 16>managers that you know, he brings that out in the players.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess we're all getting old, but next year will

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<v Speaker 6>be your fortieth anniversary of that championship. Are there any

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<v Speaker 6>plans do you know, if there's anything planned reunion wise.

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<v Speaker 16>It's got changed so much. I remember going out there

656
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<v Speaker 16>and having to play games when it is probably only

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<v Speaker 16>ten twelve years ago. For each year we had alumni

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<v Speaker 16>a weekend. So hopefully we'll do something special. You know,

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<v Speaker 16>I've kept in touch with Steve Strong, and I see

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<v Speaker 16>Joe asked this, and it's always nice to be able

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<v Speaker 16>to have those guys in Tucssan so I can reconnect

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<v Speaker 16>with them. But certainly, you know, I would love to

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<v Speaker 16>go back, play some golf and celebrate with those guys

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<v Speaker 16>for sure, and most likely we'll have something. I know

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<v Speaker 16>the coach, he seems to have an interest in that

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<v Speaker 16>I was sixteen, I would think.

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<v Speaker 2>So, So let me say this if I can compare

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<v Speaker 2>a Chip and Coach Kendall. Although it's hard because it's generational, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Chip is going to be what's hold?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you sixty something?

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<v Speaker 16>Sixty one?

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<v Speaker 4>Ship?

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<v Speaker 16>I think might be a year younger than me.

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<v Speaker 2>You're younger, so my age two sixty so my age.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm thinking, do you think the kids today feel

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<v Speaker 2>the same way that I just said with you? You

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to disappoint your dad, your grandfather, even though

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<v Speaker 2>that I guess today's sixty is not you know, tomorrow's eighty.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't know, say, I.

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<v Speaker 16>Would hope so, but gosh, you know, I hats off

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<v Speaker 16>the Chip because I think this generation, although probably more

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<v Speaker 16>talented physically than than we were, but completely different animal

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<v Speaker 16>that I don't know that I can speak to in

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<v Speaker 16>terms of that. And there's always gonna be guys like that,

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<v Speaker 16>and uh, but there's there's just a probably a wide range.

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<v Speaker 16>In a way, it's probably all the same, but uh,

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<v Speaker 16>I think you'll find that a lot of them probably

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<v Speaker 16>feel the same way. But hats off the chip. It's

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<v Speaker 16>it's uh, it's probably a hard thing to manage now

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<v Speaker 16>that it's become with Ni l and and you know,

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<v Speaker 16>it just was just kind of a probably a more

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<v Speaker 16>level playing field field in terms of players and and

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<v Speaker 16>you know, but with this stuff, it's a whole new

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<v Speaker 16>animal that I don't even know how, you know, how

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<v Speaker 16>to how to manage at And that's something I'm sure

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<v Speaker 16>that's a big challenge for him and his staff. But

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<v Speaker 16>you know, deep down, I think the kids are probably

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<v Speaker 16>the same.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean really, they had to basically turn over

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<v Speaker 6>the entire pitching staff. I think this group from last

701
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<v Speaker 6>year's is gone, and you know, it's a new group

702
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<v Speaker 6>and here they are in a World Series, so pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 16>So yeah, that's that's a big challenge, Dave.

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<v Speaker 4>So I could be wrong. Do you have a stud

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<v Speaker 4>kid playing too? My son?

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<v Speaker 16>I would I would say he was a stud in

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<v Speaker 16>my eyes.

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<v Speaker 4>But he did play.

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<v Speaker 16>He did play D one baseball, but at North Dakota

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<v Speaker 16>State with coach Brown, who used to he pitched at Arizona.

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<v Speaker 16>And you know, like I said, I if anyone was

712
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<v Speaker 16>listening out there, it was he wasn't kind of a

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<v Speaker 16>you know, Arizona type player, but it was probably the

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<v Speaker 16>perfect place for him. He's he went out there and

715
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<v Speaker 16>the team actually won forty two games in his last year.

716
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<v Speaker 16>They went and played in the regional against Stanford. But

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<v Speaker 16>absolute great experience for him and Fargo loved the people there,

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<v Speaker 16>loved his experience.

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<v Speaker 4>So, I mean, there's a place for.

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<v Speaker 16>Everyone to play and and you know, but it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was good for him.

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<v Speaker 16>I think the whole baseball experience just in and of

723
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<v Speaker 16>itself and teaching you about hard work and overcoming challenges.

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<v Speaker 16>So it wasn't wasn't a you know, super superstar, but

725
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<v Speaker 16>loved you know, being a part of his development. And

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<v Speaker 16>now he's doing great. He's in Saint Paul, Minnesota, and

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<v Speaker 16>he's a financial advisor out there. So real proud of

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<v Speaker 16>him too.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, come on, he's living dreams of kids who wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to play ball right somewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 16>Oh yeah, yeah, No, that's I'm saying. It's it's uh,

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<v Speaker 16>it's just the experience itself is is you know, very meaningful?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you say what you're up to?

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<v Speaker 16>I'm a I've been a CPA for probably thirty years.

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<v Speaker 16>I'm a CFO for a real estate company out here

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<v Speaker 16>in Scottsdale. And you know, still love watching the Cats.

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<v Speaker 16>Following the Cats, I love baseball. I'll watch as many

739
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<v Speaker 16>games I can, and uh, you know, just kind of

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<v Speaker 16>enjoying getting the point phasing our lives where kids are

741
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<v Speaker 16>kind of growing up and getting looking to retire here

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<v Speaker 16>on the horizon and playing some pickleball, and you know,

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<v Speaker 16>just starting to try to enjoy things.

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<v Speaker 2>Very nice, very nice. The guy with the glove, Thank you, Dave. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate your time. Appreciate you the insight.

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<v Speaker 16>Sure, let's go, let's go Cats. Hope they can get it,

747
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<v Speaker 16>get it done this weekend, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>Than Dave.

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<v Speaker 2>Rody yep, hey, roady, thank you very much, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to ing about here on Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Dave Silver. Yep, you're Ray.

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<v Speaker 4>Got about fifteen minutes maybe at the most.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, if you want to call perfect time five

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<v Speaker 2>two zero four one, six seventy four forty, let us

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<v Speaker 2>know how we're doing. And an he calls, did you

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<v Speaker 2>see Dave playing Dave? When I covered the Toros? He

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<v Speaker 2>was on the team, and he was like this sure

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<v Speaker 2>thing went his way. There's no way he's not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get it.

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<v Speaker 6>He was the fifth round draft pick. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 6>was drafted pretty he was the highest draft pick of

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<v Speaker 6>that eighty.

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<v Speaker 4>Sixteen and then we really, yes, wow, let me tay.

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<v Speaker 6>His career didn't you know, last very long, but he.

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<v Speaker 4>Was he was picked.

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<v Speaker 2>I was surprised that that only in a sense that

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<v Speaker 2>he was not a great hitter, right, and typically well

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<v Speaker 2>nowadays that's all they go for it and hit the

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<v Speaker 2>ball because defenders, How can I say this? Defenders don't

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<v Speaker 2>drive the Cadillacs. It's the offensive players that drive the cadillact. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, obviously he got his degree.

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<v Speaker 6>He says he's been a CPA for thirty years, so

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<v Speaker 6>I think life has turned out, you know, just how

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he's always his good family.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, his son played Division one baseball, so sounds good.

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<v Speaker 6>And those guys, you know, many of them had you know,

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<v Speaker 6>successful careers. Gil Heredia that one of the starting pitchers

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<v Speaker 6>on that team is still in baseball still.

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<v Speaker 2>You have the roster up there, I could grab it here,

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<v Speaker 2>you said, right, Chia.

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<v Speaker 6>Tommy Hinzo made the Major Leagues. Chip of course played.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, the outfield was was good. Garmalat, Mike Senny,

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<v Speaker 6>guys who had I think they each had you know,

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<v Speaker 6>cups of coffee. Maybe got to the majors as well.

854
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<v Speaker 6>So it was a good groups. You strong you know,

855
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:04.119
<v Speaker 6>has been in Tucson forever. He never left high school,

856
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:06.119
<v Speaker 6>you know, went to high school here and he's done well.

857
00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:09.199
<v Speaker 2>You were here for how many of his titles coaches?

858
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Just the one? Yeah, just the eighty six, so he

859
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:16.039
<v Speaker 2>had four, right or no, three?

860
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:21.079
<v Speaker 4>Three they're going for five now, so he had yeah,

861
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:21.679
<v Speaker 4>three eighties.

862
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:23.559
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so they made it in seven, they made it

863
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:24.760
<v Speaker 6>in seventy nine, but didn't worry.

864
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:26.199
<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you because you were here for

865
00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:28.440
<v Speaker 2>some of that, what do you think at the end

866
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:32.760
<v Speaker 2>of the day, And maybe I'll ask you what Kendall's

867
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:37.800
<v Speaker 2>legacy was or ish boy, And I asked for a

868
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:39.039
<v Speaker 2>reason because I want to follow it up.

869
00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:42.679
<v Speaker 4>Take your time.

870
00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:45.599
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, I mean, how much time I can

871
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:49.440
<v Speaker 6>I pause? No, I mean I think just being a

872
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:53.159
<v Speaker 6>great leader and setting some of these guys up for success,

873
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:57.159
<v Speaker 6>you know, either professionally in the sport or as professionals

874
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:00.239
<v Speaker 6>outside of the sport. I mean some you here again,

875
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:01.599
<v Speaker 6>some of the guys at have stayed in Tucson that

876
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:05.159
<v Speaker 6>we've know. Joe Askedes of the Estes family of the homes,

877
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:06.880
<v Speaker 6>you know, he was kind of the next generation of

878
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:10.079
<v Speaker 6>that business. He's had great success. Steve Strong has had

879
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:13.360
<v Speaker 6>great success. I'm sure the guys themselves could tell you.

880
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:14.760
<v Speaker 6>You know, here they are. They're gonna have a fortieth

881
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:17.000
<v Speaker 6>re union next year. They're gonna get together and look

882
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:19.159
<v Speaker 6>at each other and go, wow, we've had quite a run.

883
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:21.800
<v Speaker 6>And maybe that all kind of began under the leadership

884
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:23.599
<v Speaker 6>of their coach, much like Lute.

885
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:25.519
<v Speaker 4>They were side by side for it. And that was

886
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:26.199
<v Speaker 4>my next question.

887
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:28.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay, if you have this, if he has this legacy

888
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:32.039
<v Speaker 2>with three what is Lut's legacy, and we kind of

889
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:37.280
<v Speaker 2>it kind of changes because he you know, he brought

890
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:41.199
<v Speaker 2>basketball here or inflated it a little yeah, uh a

891
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:45.360
<v Speaker 2>little a lot, and he had one title. Jerry had three, right,

892
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:48.480
<v Speaker 2>So you know, we know what Loot's legacy is kind

893
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:50.280
<v Speaker 2>of like established Tucson.

894
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:55.079
<v Speaker 6>Established Tucson and you know established, you know, just a

895
00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:58.440
<v Speaker 6>slew of players going off and making a billion dollars.

896
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:00.840
<v Speaker 2>And that's what that's my point. He did that for basketball,

897
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:03.280
<v Speaker 2>but kindall do this for baseball? Do that for baseball too?

898
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:04.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah a lot.

899
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:06.320
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, the money situation is not the

900
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:08.440
<v Speaker 6>same obviously, Like you know, look at the Terry Francon

901
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:11.920
<v Speaker 6>as the world still in baseball, you know, probably considered

902
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:13.960
<v Speaker 6>still the best player of all time in Arizona and

903
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:15.960
<v Speaker 6>he was right here in the heart of Jerry Kendall world.

904
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Right right, So let me ask you again, who's what's

905
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:21.159
<v Speaker 2>Ken Drean's legacy.

906
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:24.760
<v Speaker 6>Well, the championships doesn't doesn't hurt little with the leadership

907
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:28.320
<v Speaker 6>and plus growing the sport of softball, college softball, I

908
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:30.360
<v Speaker 6>mean back in the day, I mean girls played and

909
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.880
<v Speaker 6>they you know, they played Bobby socks and maybe high

910
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:35.400
<v Speaker 6>school and maybe there were some college teams around, but

911
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:38.559
<v Speaker 6>that wasn't even happening until really the eighties, and Can

912
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:40.679
<v Speaker 6>Dre was right in the heart of that, and you know,

913
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:42.719
<v Speaker 6>it struck it rich here in Tucson.

914
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.920
<v Speaker 4>And he's if you're going to give a goat, I mean,

915
00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:47.360
<v Speaker 4>the dude's a goat. Yeah.

916
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:51.519
<v Speaker 2>Maybe even at Arizona, you know, yeah, I mean he's

917
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:53.159
<v Speaker 2>comparently old Mount Rushmore whatever.

918
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:54.880
<v Speaker 4>We've talked about that all the time.

919
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:58.480
<v Speaker 6>But I mean, you know again, remember too, I don't know,

920
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:01.440
<v Speaker 6>we didn't really touch on it this week, but you know,

921
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:03.679
<v Speaker 6>Chip and Steve Kerr were kind of side by side

922
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:06.840
<v Speaker 6>at the same period of you know, eighty six seven,

923
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:09.440
<v Speaker 6>Steve is done, you know, eighty eight. I mean there

924
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:12.480
<v Speaker 6>was there was some I don't know if it was

925
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:15.480
<v Speaker 6>compares the right word, but they were similar.

926
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:17.039
<v Speaker 4>They were kind of leaders on the court.

927
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:19.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know much about I didn't cover either of

928
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:22.079
<v Speaker 2>them back in the day, but as you talk and

929
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:27.880
<v Speaker 2>listening to the guys, very similar, yeah, demeanor, the self effacing,

930
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:32.239
<v Speaker 2>doesn't take their self serious. Yep, very bright, very bright.

931
00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:36.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's not lost and just almost not the

932
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:37.519
<v Speaker 2>same guy, but the same.

933
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:39.199
<v Speaker 4>Guy, right, I mean, you should.

934
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:41.559
<v Speaker 6>We should look it up if we have a chance again,

935
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:43.880
<v Speaker 6>just side by side, because I mean Chip was done

936
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:46.000
<v Speaker 6>I think in eighty seven, so I mean Steve still

937
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:47.400
<v Speaker 6>had like one more year. I mean they were here

938
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:49.280
<v Speaker 6>together at the same time, and that was you know,

939
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:50.840
<v Speaker 6>interesting that that was all going on.

940
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:52.400
<v Speaker 4>And look what they both.

941
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:56.199
<v Speaker 2>Became, right, No, no, very successful. And don't take what

942
00:43:56.599 --> 00:43:58.840
<v Speaker 2>I noticed is is Steve doesn't take himself seriously.

943
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:00.559
<v Speaker 4>He's just a dude. Uh.

944
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:02.559
<v Speaker 2>And I've said this a number of times on people

945
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:04.719
<v Speaker 2>who don't agree with his politics or whatever. To me,

946
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.760
<v Speaker 2>the smartest guy I've ever met, and I've known a

947
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:12.039
<v Speaker 2>lot of people in politics and in sports, just because

948
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:13.960
<v Speaker 2>he's so eclectic.

949
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:17.800
<v Speaker 6>I bet too, just the way Michael Center was set

950
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:20.079
<v Speaker 6>up in those years too, they probably were buddies.

951
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:21.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think they knew each other.

952
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:24.760
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, you know, if that happens anymore because

953
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:27.559
<v Speaker 6>baseball is off off campus and you know, they're kind

954
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:29.800
<v Speaker 6>of on their own now, but in those years, you

955
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:31.840
<v Speaker 6>know they were. They're probably in the weight room together. Again,

956
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:33.119
<v Speaker 6>they were the same same time.

957
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:34.000
<v Speaker 4>So let me ask you.

958
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.559
<v Speaker 2>You you were saying or inferring that maybe there was

959
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:39.719
<v Speaker 2>a story or two back in the day. Uh kind

960
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:43.440
<v Speaker 2>of mirror images type of thing. Maybe even by you.

961
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:48.280
<v Speaker 6>Could be I don't really remember, but because there could

962
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:50.519
<v Speaker 6>have been some stories we did. You know, they were

963
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:52.519
<v Speaker 6>rooting for each other. I mean there's seasons kind of

964
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:55.039
<v Speaker 6>you know, crossed over with basketball and baseball, you know,

965
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:57.559
<v Speaker 6>hitting in in the winter.

966
00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:02.639
<v Speaker 2>Well to your point again, even Kindle Kendall's stid said, uh,

967
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:04.960
<v Speaker 2>there was one dude who could go to and he

968
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:07.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't say dude, one player that could go to coach

969
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Kendall and kind of.

970
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:11.639
<v Speaker 4>Talk to him about stuff. Guess back in the day, guess.

971
00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:14.519
<v Speaker 2>Who could do that, right, Steve Kerr Wait, oh to

972
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:17.719
<v Speaker 2>loose Yeah, yeah, you know, later there was Miles you know,

973
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:19.920
<v Speaker 2>maybe a couple others, but Steve back then, I'm sure

974
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:20.440
<v Speaker 2>was that guy.

975
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:24.199
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, Steve, what do you have for me? I'm sure?

976
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:24.519
<v Speaker 4>I mean.

977
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:28.440
<v Speaker 6>And then you know the Cole Kenny Lofton crossover thing

978
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:30.159
<v Speaker 6>that was all kind of going on around that same

979
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:30.679
<v Speaker 6>time too.

980
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:33.079
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I mean I know that.

981
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:35.679
<v Speaker 6>Well obviously just look at look at the years they

982
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:38.840
<v Speaker 6>were they were there on campus together and you're having

983
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:39.960
<v Speaker 6>great success as coaches.

984
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Now, well, look at that campus. You had you had football,

985
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:44.119
<v Speaker 2>you had.

986
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:45.840
<v Speaker 4>Chuck.

987
00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:49.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Chuck, you had Steve exactly. Yeah, I mean Shuck

988
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:52.880
<v Speaker 6>was that whole group. I mean, you're right, and I

989
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:55.400
<v Speaker 6>don't know who was there for basketball, but Sean was there.

990
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, but Steve's coming, Steve, Chuck, you had Chip with

991
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:01.760
<v Speaker 2>all that eighty six group right there. Yep, God, I'm

992
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:03.360
<v Speaker 2>sure that it was. But there was a little there

993
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:05.239
<v Speaker 2>was a little sports was like holy crap.

994
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:08.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but again they were kids. We weren't sure just.

995
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:10.440
<v Speaker 6>Then, but like, hey, now that as we look back,

996
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:12.000
<v Speaker 6>we go, yeah, you know, he was a pretty good

997
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:14.119
<v Speaker 6>leader on the field. And I remember Chip even then.

998
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:16.960
<v Speaker 6>You know, you could you could just tell that, you know,

999
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:17.719
<v Speaker 6>he was the guy.

1000
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:20.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well the good old days. You were here

1001
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:20.519
<v Speaker 2>for that.

1002
00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:21.920
<v Speaker 4>Man. I just come a year later.

1003
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:26.480
<v Speaker 6>Okay, now he can he win a national championship and

1004
00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:27.920
<v Speaker 6>talk about his legacy.

1005
00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Now, kids, that Gray or is gonna I go to

1006
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:33.000
<v Speaker 2>u A. I don't know any about anybo all those days.

1007
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:35.880
<v Speaker 6>You gotta look up the history. I was always a

1008
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:38.440
<v Speaker 6>history fan, and especially sports. Yeah, I mean that's always

1009
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:41.559
<v Speaker 6>kind of been my go to thing, and it's always exciting.

1010
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:44.960
<v Speaker 6>I love watching old films and seeing highlights and stuff.

1011
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:49.440
<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, those Laurel and Hardy movies. I like to think.

1012
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:52.679
<v Speaker 3>I like to think that I am too, Like I'll

1013
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:55.480
<v Speaker 3>go back and watch old games. Read the book obviously,

1014
00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:56.639
<v Speaker 3>but it's just.

1015
00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:00.639
<v Speaker 4>What book you got it for me?

1016
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:00.920
<v Speaker 1>No?

1017
00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:05.239
<v Speaker 4>What book? Uh? Lessons from it? How did you get it?

1018
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:07.840
<v Speaker 4>They were selling out a Barnes and Nobles. Oh really? Yeah?

1019
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:10.639
<v Speaker 4>Did you get it from me? What the hell? I

1020
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:11.480
<v Speaker 4>didn't know?

1021
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:14.800
<v Speaker 6>Did you get You get a percentage if you sell

1022
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:15.280
<v Speaker 6>it yourself.

1023
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:17.840
<v Speaker 2>That's the only way I make money. How you think

1024
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a royalty royalty deal is a bunch

1025
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:20.760
<v Speaker 2>of crap.

1026
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:26.360
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, but I read what struck you the most?

1027
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:28.360
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know this well.

1028
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:30.320
<v Speaker 5>I mean it was just like it was different because

1029
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:32.599
<v Speaker 5>you read like I like to read.

1030
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:34.159
<v Speaker 3>I like to read a lot of baseball books and

1031
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:36.039
<v Speaker 3>like mostly about the giants and stuff like that, or

1032
00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:38.800
<v Speaker 3>about like just like figures in sports that I like,

1033
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:39.360
<v Speaker 3>like I read.

1034
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:41.639
<v Speaker 4>I read the John Madden. You're not telling me what

1035
00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:43.000
<v Speaker 4>did you think about it? I want to bring a

1036
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:45.119
<v Speaker 4>touch on my It was good. It was good.

1037
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:46.079
<v Speaker 5>I thought it was.

1038
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:48.079
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it was it was cool.

1039
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:50.000
<v Speaker 3>How you kept the lighthearted and then like would like

1040
00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:53.239
<v Speaker 3>I would still like have like you know, the underlying

1041
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:56.119
<v Speaker 3>lessons from the like from the players and the stories.

1042
00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:58.880
<v Speaker 5>My favorite chapter is always I forget who was I.

1043
00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:00.400
<v Speaker 4>Was going to ask you what was your favorit chapter?

1044
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.800
<v Speaker 5>It was it was the guy that would whenever they

1045
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:03.639
<v Speaker 5>had run on the.

1046
00:48:03.559 --> 00:48:08.519
<v Speaker 4>Mall, oh Tom Tolbert, when he yeah, yeah, they run.

1047
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:10.239
<v Speaker 4>You didn't hear the story. Now, Oh, so this is

1048
00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:11.079
<v Speaker 4>the legendary story.

1049
00:48:11.159 --> 00:48:14.400
<v Speaker 2>So they'd make him run right laps, two miles whatever,

1050
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:16.280
<v Speaker 2>and they had to be around the what do you

1051
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:18.880
<v Speaker 2>call it the fountain but down you know, too much.

1052
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:19.199
<v Speaker 5>Down the mall?

1053
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:22.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sure, yeah, behind me. Yeah, so you know he's running.

1054
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:25.400
<v Speaker 4>He's running, and the guys were sweating, blah blah blah.

1055
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:28.599
<v Speaker 2>Says I'm just gonna stand, get in the fountain, get wet,

1056
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:30.599
<v Speaker 2>and they're gonna run. They're gonna run and then get

1057
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:32.599
<v Speaker 2>out and then run. By the time I get there,

1058
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:34.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be less wet.

1059
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:37.920
<v Speaker 4>Right uh. And they'll think it sweat, they'll think get sweat.

1060
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:41.239
<v Speaker 2>And he did it a couple of times and then

1061
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:43.559
<v Speaker 2>I guess one of the managers went and looked and

1062
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:46.920
<v Speaker 2>saw him in there, but he didn't run him out.

1063
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:49.559
<v Speaker 6>Yeah that that fountain is pretty famous too. I think

1064
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:52.280
<v Speaker 6>many people have had a dip in there through the years.

1065
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.960
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, I can see Tolbert taking advantage of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I like the one did you The last

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<v Speaker 2>chapter was your guy radio guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Phoenix got why am I so?

1069
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<v Speaker 3>So?

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<v Speaker 10>He?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's famous for being radio and was let

1072
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<v Speaker 2>go and he was looking for a job and he

1073
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<v Speaker 2>put Loot on the resume and some dude, some guy

1074
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:14.920
<v Speaker 2>that he was trying to get a job for Todd,

1075
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:17.679
<v Speaker 2>could you tell this guy who keeps calling me every

1076
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:21.440
<v Speaker 2>day Loot or something, I know who you are. He

1077
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have to keep calling me. The kid didn't know

1078
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:28.960
<v Speaker 2>who Loot was, right, this guy keeps calling me, you know,

1079
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:31.440
<v Speaker 2>tell him I know who daughter is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So funny, and I know it's a good book.

1081
00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:34.280
<v Speaker 4>Small World.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but yeah, like I said, like, I don't know,

1083
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.400
<v Speaker 3>it's just, uh, it feels like a little tougher to

1084
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:40.760
<v Speaker 3>find stuff on baseball.

1085
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:43.480
<v Speaker 5>But like I don't know, like you know what I mean, Like.

1086
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<v Speaker 4>They actually that's not about you're giving me some ideas.

1087
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:49.360
<v Speaker 3>Now, there's a because like you can watch old football games,

1088
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:49.880
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean?

1089
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<v Speaker 5>Sure on YouTube and stuff, and it's just like do

1090
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:52.239
<v Speaker 5>that all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it's like it's the nineteen fifty nine NFL championship. Yeah,

1092
00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:58.199
<v Speaker 4>exactly right. Yeah, So but you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually give me an idea because the baseball, if they

1094
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<v Speaker 2>do really well, his history has been very kind to

1095
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<v Speaker 2>you a baseball not a lot a lot of kind,

1096
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:08.679
<v Speaker 2>but it's been very kind going back to the eighty six,

1097
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<v Speaker 2>going back to the seventy six.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean definitely the guys from eighty I'm the Francona team.

1099
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<v Speaker 2>Some of those guys are. I'll have to still playing.

1100
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<v Speaker 2>I'll have to do exactly what you said for when

1101
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:18.159
<v Speaker 2>we had lunch.

1102
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<v Speaker 4>How do you get hold of this guy? Take it out?

1103
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:24.039
<v Speaker 4>Where do you find? Is he still alive? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I mean, okay, well thanks, I didn't know

1105
00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:30.719
<v Speaker 2>who bought that as your next book. There's so many options.

1106
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:33.159
<v Speaker 2>So I got Kenny, I got people on the leak.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah you know.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, I think definitely you should look at that, look

1109
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<v Speaker 6>into the Steve Kerr Chip Hale timeline and see what

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<v Speaker 6>was going on in those hums.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, like you're saying, Chip and who else in eighty

1113
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<v Speaker 4>six football?

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck another another bright dude, right, yeah, very smart guy.

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<v Speaker 6>And also got into coaching. So the similarities there for sure.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, there is a lot of similar day. It's

1117
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:56.920
<v Speaker 6>like a trifecta right there. Man, Yeah, there's that's a story.

1118
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<v Speaker 6>It is the story. Yeah, and then being and we're

1119
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:02.320
<v Speaker 6>coming up to, like, you know, the fortieth anniversary of

1120
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:02.599
<v Speaker 6>these things.

1121
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, And I'm sure, like you said, he probably

1122
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:06.440
<v Speaker 2>hung out together and you know, saw each other on

1123
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:09.320
<v Speaker 2>campus and things. Okay, cool, Yeah, what a time to

1124
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:11.760
<v Speaker 2>be alive during that time. You were here and I

1125
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:13.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't even realize it You're too busy.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was fun.

1127
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<v Speaker 6>I mean, those are like some of the highlights of

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<v Speaker 6>my career. Where those your partner Brad.

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<v Speaker 4>Who was okay, who was the news people? The news

1130
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<v Speaker 4>was guy? Ashley was here by then beck to you guys?

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<v Speaker 10>Guy?

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<v Speaker 17>You guy? He and I he and rinked on high school.

1133
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<v Speaker 17>He did he come to Oklahoma City? I think he

1134
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<v Speaker 17>may have come to Oklahoma City where he loved shooting

1135
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<v Speaker 17>still photography.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's what he does. Somehow he finagled his way.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty sure he made it. Well, you know, he's

1138
00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:46.599
<v Speaker 4>from Oklahoma, the Birds of Omaha. Yeah, no, no, this

1139
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:48.440
<v Speaker 4>is Oklahoma when the with the softball team.

1140
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and next thing you know, we're we're out there

1141
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:52.840
<v Speaker 6>covering the games and the guys on the field.

1142
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<v Speaker 4>So he came. He loved doing that stuff. Okay, we

1143
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<v Speaker 4>got to go. Good day. Thank you Dave for coming in.

1144
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<v Speaker 4>Thank you Ray.

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<v Speaker 5>I shoot, tomorrow, I will be here tomorrow.

1146
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<v Speaker 4>I'm excited. I'm excited for tomorrow. All right, guys, thanks

1147
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<v Speaker 4>for listening.
