Speaker 1: Steve Rivera, he's got his Eye on the Ball on
Speaker 1: Tucson Sports Station yet Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Iron the Ball Here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Dave Silver, your ray.
Speaker 2: Now you have breaking news.
Speaker 1: This is Eye on the Ball, breaking news on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports fourteen fifty eight.
Speaker 3: All right, I mean obviously big one tomorrow is that
Speaker 3: Arizona is going to be playing in the UH Men's
Speaker 3: College World Series.
Speaker 2: Do we have, Dave, anything that you've seen so far,
Speaker 2: like eazy dosers one or whatever?
Speaker 4: Where the starters? Yes, just the starters you have to start?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Well, shout out to a friend of the show, Brian
Speaker 3: Peterson for posting these on Twitter. But Arizona's going to
Speaker 3: be starting Kremkowski, which makes sense.
Speaker 4: They're number one righte and.
Speaker 3: Coastal Carolina is actually I don't know if it's not
Speaker 3: their number one. I saw a guy that had it
Speaker 3: looked like he had better SATs on D one baseball.
Speaker 3: But they will be starting a right handed Riley Acoff.
Speaker 3: He's six six and two two point ninety a r
Speaker 3: A the guy I thought that they would be starting,
Speaker 3: though it was Jacob Morrison.
Speaker 5: He's a sophomore eleven to zero two fifteen e r A. Oh,
Speaker 5: but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe they're just he's not starting. No, the sophomore is
Speaker 3: not starting. It's gonna be Riley Acoff. I don't know
Speaker 3: if that's how you're saying his name. I hope so.
Speaker 5: But it's weird because a call it says he last
Speaker 5: pitched versus East Carolina on the first of June, so
Speaker 5: it's been a little bit.
Speaker 2: So maybe he's not their best guy. Maybe just has
Speaker 2: good stuff against you know, the other guys.
Speaker 6: I may have won twenty three straight games, the hottest
Speaker 6: team coming in. You know they're gonna go into the
Speaker 6: Wildcats tomorrow. Well, in the land of momento, haven't lost
Speaker 6: since April twenty seconds, so it's been a while.
Speaker 4: You know, they pretty good.
Speaker 2: With me or against me on the land of momentum
Speaker 2: to do for a loss so that it goes your momentum.
Speaker 4: Wild Cats have some moment I'm going to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so you okay, So now it's the doing momentum.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: It's just I don't know, like when it cut like
Speaker 3: when it I think there's a good thing and a
Speaker 3: bad thing when the team comes in too hot to something,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: No, it's always at one time. That's what we always
Speaker 4: think about.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like you play poker at all of
Speaker 2: a little bit when people go all in, and it's
Speaker 2: rare that then many times they win until because what
Speaker 2: the last time they do that?
Speaker 4: Because then thes no.
Speaker 6: I mean, the key here is if the U can
Speaker 6: get ahead, they are thirty eight and oh when they're
Speaker 6: headed in the eight, they're head in the eighth inning.
Speaker 4: They've got they got a great closer.
Speaker 6: And so if that can get to that point, they're
Speaker 6: twelve and one in one run games all season. So
Speaker 6: they get the lead, get the lead and hang on.
Speaker 2: And that was so crazy last week because they had
Speaker 2: the lead. They didn't have the lead.
Speaker 4: That was on Saturday in the middle game was wild.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, and it yeah, they've just been playing the
Speaker 3: Yeah they come from Okay.
Speaker 4: I don't believe.
Speaker 2: I don't believe in I don't believe in momentum, but
Speaker 2: I do believe in destiny. There's a part where you know,
Speaker 2: things just happen to get you a certain places, like dude, dude,
Speaker 2: second basement, nine out of ten, gets out, ten out
Speaker 2: of ten, gets there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he didn't get it.
Speaker 2: Some god some baseball got up there said okay, let's
Speaker 2: get him through.
Speaker 6: And that's baseball, and that really is baseball. You hear
Speaker 6: those stories. I mean it goes back just legendary stories
Speaker 6: through the years in the history of the sport. Some
Speaker 6: guy makes some crazy ara that you never expect and
Speaker 6: that just happens. But there you go. That's probably the
Speaker 6: number one in our lifetime.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can we can probably go through a
Speaker 2: number of them. But you know, these things that happened
Speaker 2: that never happened, and.
Speaker 6: Especially in baseball, like like Rick was saying in the call,
Speaker 6: just it's one of those sports you just from game
Speaker 6: to game, you go, you lose eighteen to two, and
Speaker 6: you come back and you win the next day.
Speaker 4: Well, the coach still brought it up. War is it?
Speaker 7: War?
Speaker 4: Kevin? Kevin one?
Speaker 2: I mean your best your best hitter at the time
Speaker 2: he gets it dies back to Ken Kevin, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: and he gets hurt and you don't. Okay, that's just
Speaker 2: a normal plane all of a sudden turns the trajectory
Speaker 2: of the other seasons at the most important time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean sports, God's given you take it the Yeah,
Speaker 3: keeping it going on the track and field right now,
Speaker 3: Zach Eckstein advances to one hundred and ten meter hurdles
Speaker 3: finals or one hundred and ten meter hurdle finals, and
Speaker 3: he advanced on the on day one of the NCAA Championship.
Speaker 6: So another event in Eugene, right. I was watching some
Speaker 6: of that last night. It's amazing how they can host everything.
Speaker 6: They got the best track in the country.
Speaker 3: Man Man Nike money, mister Knight. Oh, this is kind
Speaker 3: of a funny one. Uh so it says to this
Speaker 3: from the Arizona Border Regions. Today the board officially approved
Speaker 3: coach Burke's contract to be the head coach.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it was did they did they up it?
Speaker 2: I thought they were trying to approve it even more,
Speaker 2: improve it a little bit more. But yeah, I saw
Speaker 2: that that was on the agenda of.
Speaker 4: The Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: It just reminds me of like, that's such a summer
Speaker 5: thing five year now.
Speaker 8: I mean it's like, uh, does it say how much?
Speaker 8: Six seventy five six? I think that was the original. Yeah,
Speaker 8: that's half of what she was making. Idea, they'll be
Speaker 8: fine they'll be fine.
Speaker 4: She'll survive.
Speaker 6: Yeah, three hundred and twenty five thousand dollars base salary,
Speaker 6: three hundred and fifty for additional duties. That makes total
Speaker 6: sense for twenty five thousand dollars signing bonus, twenty five
Speaker 6: thousand dollars annual salary escalators through twenty twenty nine to thirty.
Speaker 6: You signed one of these contracts. Yeah, My deals were
Speaker 6: just like that. What's an escalator?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 4: My escalator took me out the door.
Speaker 2: Mine were like that, just minus a couple of decimal points.
Speaker 4: Yeah. That's good though.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think we're all kind of waiting for
Speaker 6: the pale extension and and and Caitlin Low if that's
Speaker 6: gonna happen. I mean, you know, maybe here in the
Speaker 6: next week.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Desiree keeps saying, well, when we have the news, we'll
Speaker 6: let you out. Yeah, which is a nice way of saying,
Speaker 6: you know, leave me alone.
Speaker 4: She was on Channel Night last night. I did a
Speaker 4: story on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was watching and I really watched Channel Line
Speaker 2: just because I come on, I'm used to it.
Speaker 4: Used to in the old days.
Speaker 2: I used to.
Speaker 4: I used to. I'm sleep.
Speaker 2: Talking about the the shared revenue story.
Speaker 4: You put it all and stuff. You know the same story.
Speaker 2: We're gonna take care of our you know, our Olympic
Speaker 2: sports people. We're concerned for them. We're not gonna lose
Speaker 2: any sports things like that.
Speaker 3: All right, keep it going, uh man. I was gonna
Speaker 3: try to find how how Howard boy Zachary Puyo is doing,
Speaker 3: but he lost them on the leaderboard. Keep it moving
Speaker 3: on the links though, that's a tough name. Sarah Beata
Speaker 3: sec is competing in the Florida Women's Amateur in today.
Speaker 4: So got some Shia Yue.
Speaker 5: Yeah, women's golf player for the Kaud of the University.
Speaker 6: He had a good year, no satin So Zachary the
Speaker 6: golfer is at plus two through thirteen holes. So that's
Speaker 6: that's respectable, at least tied for thirty sevenths. He's ahead
Speaker 6: of guys like Rory and Scheffler.
Speaker 2: So so if you were to ask me the same
Speaker 2: question about you know, big moments and things like that,
Speaker 2: I think in this situation it would be kind of
Speaker 2: like here I am, I'm a you know, sophomore or
Speaker 2: whatever you say, I'm among these guys and I pinched myself.
Speaker 4: And say, damn, this is fantastic. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Well, that's kind of one of the beauties of of
Speaker 6: like golf and tennis, when you can get into an
Speaker 6: event like this in areas in the US Open, he qualified,
Speaker 6: he's an amateur. Still, he's still on a student and
Speaker 6: I think it's in these moments.
Speaker 4: Yeah, these moments you cannot.
Speaker 6: Say, oh yeah, I mean I would think, you know,
Speaker 6: he's showing quite a lot of poise to go out
Speaker 6: there and play alongside these guys in a championship like this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like you see it a lot too,
Speaker 3: And well maybe not a lot, but you see it
Speaker 3: every maybe like half decade or decade or so. In soccer,
Speaker 3: I mean this is yeah, I mean you see Lemina
Speaker 3: mal right now he's seventeen. It's like, dude, you can't
Speaker 3: even buy a beer in Europe, you know, like playing
Speaker 3: for like millions of euros like.
Speaker 4: That happens a lot in soccer though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was the dude from DC sixteen? Freddy ad
Speaker 2: ready a dude, great pick up with that name, Yeah sixteen.
Speaker 2: This is twenty one older, longer than older than you, oh,
Speaker 2: twenty three.
Speaker 4: Years ago too. Yeah, and it's just like, man, are
Speaker 4: you a big soccer fan?
Speaker 5: H I keep up with it.
Speaker 3: I don't say I'll watch all of it, but I
Speaker 3: tried my best to keep up with it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because isn't there some controversy because like a lot
Speaker 6: of the top players are not playing for our US
Speaker 6: team right now. Yeah, and we just got smoked by
Speaker 6: was it Switzerland?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Switzerland kind of did all of North America dirty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they'd be in Mexico too, But.
Speaker 6: I mean we're a year away from the World Cup
Speaker 6: and everyone's saying, oh, wait a second, why are.
Speaker 4: Our top players playing for our team? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think it's one because it's a friendly two Gold
Speaker 3: Cups starts on Saturday.
Speaker 5: I know it starts the fourteenth. I'm pretty sure that's.
Speaker 4: They'll play there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's like the it's the real like kind
Speaker 3: of last preparation, because the way soccer goes is for
Speaker 3: everybody who doesn't know, it's uh the summer is the
Speaker 3: international break. So that's when you see like the team,
Speaker 3: like the countries play against each other, compared to uh,
Speaker 3: spring and summer, where it's the club's like Madrid, Barcelona
Speaker 3: all that stuff, and yeah, so it's kind of like
Speaker 3: one of the last tune ups. I'd say before the
Speaker 3: World Cup, maybe like like maybe two games before the
Speaker 3: actual Cup starts.
Speaker 5: But yeah, there's well it's really just because ballistic, I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like Captain American, Hey, captain's missing right now?
Speaker 4: Where is he?
Speaker 5: Oh? Here's another one.
Speaker 3: Uh Jesse Alvina who finished nineteenth in the men's javelin,
Speaker 3: earned honorable mention for All America and a lot of
Speaker 3: track stuff going on, but I want to give him credit.
Speaker 5: I mean, they're in that stuff, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: It's not easy.
Speaker 2: Got a new coach. Yeah yeah, yeah, mister w did
Speaker 2: you come over that?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dubs getting dubs anyways, Meat and potatoes here. Uh,
Speaker 3: Indiana Pacers beat the oh the city?
Speaker 4: Did you get your job?
Speaker 5: I just smiled.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the Pacers beat the Thunder yesterday in game three,
Speaker 3: so they're leading now two to one. The better that
Speaker 3: we have been talking about, who at one point had
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty three thousand dollars payout.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, he has now.
Speaker 5: Dropped to sixty thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: Which you would have catched one tenth. I would have
Speaker 4: catched that one. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Now it's like didn't jay Z have a huge bet going?
Speaker 6: Did I read that? Was it last night?
Speaker 4: I don't know? Let me, I'm sorry, we look that
Speaker 4: one up. Could have been, but.
Speaker 2: That did He might make it out of whatever. They
Speaker 2: want to make sure that clarify.
Speaker 4: The bet.
Speaker 6: He launched a million dollars? Well was the bet with
Speaker 6: the he bet on the thunder?
Speaker 4: Oh last night? Uh? Yeah, jeez, like you're going, I'll
Speaker 4: find it. Okay.
Speaker 6: He's living a hard knock life. Yeah, that's like twin
Speaker 6: Bucks married to Beyonce. Yeah, how hard off.
Speaker 3: Benedic Mathm, though, led the entire game for scoring twenty
Speaker 3: seven points. I thought he had twenty eight, but ESPN
Speaker 3: says he has twenty seven. T J McConnell had a
Speaker 3: very special stats line. They said it was the first
Speaker 3: time someone has gone ten points, ten assists, I believe
Speaker 3: in five, five assists and five steals.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So since since Jason Terry I think.
Speaker 5: Has been a dick Mathm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well since these two dudes. These two dudes
Speaker 2: were fantastic and and it was it was TJ McConnell
Speaker 2: doing exactly what he does. Yeah, it was great. It
Speaker 2: was a great name that he's not mister energy. But
Speaker 2: you know, kaok, Captain Chaos or whatever it was, because
Speaker 2: he was all over that court just creating problems.
Speaker 6: With Oh yeah, and his dad was there, and his
Speaker 6: grandfather was there, and his sister's playing for the Phoenix Mercury.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw that, which is pretty wild.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes you're the star shines on you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Jay Z did bet a million for the Thunder to
Speaker 6: win less.
Speaker 4: Y, Yes did he. I guess he had. That's ten
Speaker 4: dollars to.
Speaker 10: You and me.
Speaker 4: It's true.
Speaker 3: Interesting point though, that our interesting kind of clip of
Speaker 3: a quote that came out from this that's on ESPN
Speaker 3: as well, is that SGA says they got to suck
Speaker 3: it up when it comes to the late game fatigue,
Speaker 3: which is interesting. I mean Pacers, you know, that's kind
Speaker 3: of been like their whole mo o, like, you know,
Speaker 3: running up and down the floor, and I thought it
Speaker 3: would kind of work against him just because okay, okay,
Speaker 3: see you get there, they get their arms in the
Speaker 3: lanes a lot and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: So I think, Okay, she's still gonna win it all.
Speaker 4: Really Okay, So his defense has been good.
Speaker 6: But not not last night and fourteen whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I still like I say, and then I
Speaker 2: have Chris come come on, give me a break. Chris
Speaker 2: comes in and harasses me. I'm gonna call the cops
Speaker 2: next time he does this. You see it, He's like harassing.
Speaker 4: A hold of a hold of what I was gonna say.
Speaker 5: You're gonna laugh. We got a minute, all right, quick?
Speaker 4: One?
Speaker 3: Uh five pm. Oilers Panthers Game four. Last game wasn't great.
Speaker 3: Last two games before that were though, So last.
Speaker 6: Game got a little out of hand and a little
Speaker 6: how many fights there were like five?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah it was it was chrety. It's pretty wild.
Speaker 6: So yeah, the hockey games have been okay up until
Speaker 6: that that game.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean they're both overtimes, right, yeah, there's two. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty eight.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to I on the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera and with me today
Speaker 2: is Dave Silver. Now on the phone. We have a
Speaker 2: ROADI former. You have a baseball Star two soon total Houston, Ashville.
Speaker 4: How are you doing, David? Great?
Speaker 16: Great, Great to be on with you.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 2: We've had some great people. Thanks for joining us. Talking
Speaker 2: about this year's baseball team. We'll also go back in
Speaker 2: the day. I read in your MLB you played three
Speaker 2: years and you only had one error.
Speaker 4: How in the world does that happen? Well, first of all.
Speaker 16: I mean I didn't play every day like most most
Speaker 16: for those three years, but I was I was kind
Speaker 16: of the utility player mostly, but I played all over
Speaker 16: and I guess that that was probably my strength for sure.
Speaker 16: And you know, I think I took I took a
Speaker 16: lot of pride in my defense, as I always did
Speaker 16: even in college and pro ball. So but you know,
Speaker 16: that's that was probably the strength of my game.
Speaker 4: Let's go back to eighty six.
Speaker 6: You know, it was a big year for the for
Speaker 6: the baseball program, and it was just a big moment
Speaker 6: for the team and so many great players on that team.
Speaker 6: What are your your memories of Omaha especially, but maybe
Speaker 6: each just that season in general, and how you got
Speaker 6: to that point where you were playing for the national Championship.
Speaker 16: Well, I mean, I just remember because I wasn't really
Speaker 16: part of the eighty five's on the eighty five team,
Speaker 16: but I wasn't really playing because I was hurt, And
Speaker 16: you know, I just remember the team doing well enough
Speaker 16: to get to the World Series and just my strong
Speaker 16: desire to come back and participate in that and be
Speaker 16: a part of that in eighty six, which I kind
Speaker 16: of slid in it shortstop, and then they moved Tommy
Speaker 16: to Hens out to second and Chip over to third
Speaker 16: and and kind of solidified the infield a little bit.
Speaker 16: But I just remember us starting out hot, hitting a
Speaker 16: little cold spell, and then getting hot. And one of
Speaker 16: the things I remember most is right before the World Series.
Speaker 16: The regional started, was was coach Kendle coming in and
Speaker 16: saying we had four games left, one with Grand Canyon
Speaker 16: and three with Arizona State. And I just remember him
Speaker 16: saying that we need to win three out of these
Speaker 16: four games to get original bid. And I remember beating
Speaker 16: Grand Canyon and then absolutely destroying Arizona State, uh, three
Speaker 16: straight games at home, and and we were just on
Speaker 16: absolute fire. And that's why I told Chip Or I
Speaker 16: texted Chip and and tripped the coach there.
Speaker 4: I just said that this.
Speaker 16: This team right now that they have seems to remind
Speaker 16: me of the momentum we had when they went in
Speaker 16: that regional and absolutely, uh you know about thirteen fourteen
Speaker 16: bombs and and and two games or three games was
Speaker 16: was pretty much a pretty good spark to indicate that
Speaker 16: they're they're ready to go. So uh took the blast.
Speaker 16: I just, you know, the big the biggest thing about
Speaker 16: that I told I was talking to someone the other day,
Speaker 16: The biggest thing about any team I've ever played on
Speaker 16: is just just that you spend all year playing together,
Speaker 16: going through ups and downs, and and to be able
Speaker 16: to just dogpile everybody at the end of the season.
Speaker 16: Is the absolute best feeling in sports, and it's worth
Speaker 16: it more than anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll go back to that in a second.
Speaker 2: But you're twenty one, twenty two maybe at this time,
Speaker 2: and and you're a ballplayer among a lot of good ballplayers.
Speaker 2: Did you think this Chip guy pretty good could be
Speaker 2: a pretty good coach one day?
Speaker 16: Oh?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 16: Chip was always kind of a coach Kendall's right hand
Speaker 16: man in terms of they were they were in sync
Speaker 16: all the time, and and and honestly, the one thing
Speaker 16: about Chip is that back then when you didn't have
Speaker 16: online school and and any of these things. I mean,
Speaker 16: he's a great ballplayer, smart ball player, but he's the
Speaker 16: one kid that went out there and got the got
Speaker 16: the grades done and got the school work done. And
Speaker 16: I think he graduated in four years. And and you know,
Speaker 16: I had a lot of respect for him in that
Speaker 16: in that regard as well, but it definitely heads up,
Speaker 16: smart ball player, got the most out of his ability.
Speaker 16: And and you know he is Coach Kendle's clone.
Speaker 6: Did you ever cross pass with him professionally? Did you
Speaker 6: ever play for him or around him?
Speaker 16: We we kind of, you know, I think we ran
Speaker 16: into each other and trip Awa he was playing in
Speaker 16: Portland and I was probably playing in Tucson.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we we.
Speaker 16: Came across, not not too frequently, because I think the
Speaker 16: Twins are outside of Triple A. They were always kind
Speaker 16: of on the in some other league. So that was
Speaker 16: about the only time we really crossed paths. And he
Speaker 16: was in the American League and I was in the
Speaker 16: National League for the most part, so but but a
Speaker 16: couple of times.
Speaker 2: So I'm sure you've will followed him at least recently
Speaker 2: pretty closely. And what do you think about this team?
Speaker 2: Although you kind of already compared them to the eighty sixteen,
Speaker 2: I I, you know.
Speaker 16: I just like their you know, especially way they're playing now,
Speaker 16: their resiliency, you know, even watching I spent a lot
Speaker 16: of time watching them when I can. I've come down
Speaker 16: to My daughter just graduated from Arizona, so we would
Speaker 16: go down to watch them play here and there. We
Speaker 16: actually went to Houston and watched them really kind of
Speaker 16: get going in that tournament. But you know, I just
Speaker 16: like their the way they're playing, resilient wise in terms
Speaker 16: of the last renal, even in North Carolina when they
Speaker 16: were down two to one, down for to two and
Speaker 16: just kept coming back, even you know, on the road.
Speaker 16: So I see a lot of talented players. Summer Hill Aaron,
Speaker 16: I call him, uh Mason White. So they've got some
Speaker 16: talented players too that are fun to watch. And it
Speaker 16: just seems like everybody kind of picks their moment to contribute,
Speaker 16: so real excited about what they've done and hopefully what
Speaker 16: they're gonna do.
Speaker 2: It's funny, you've been on countless of teams through your career.
Speaker 2: I think some of the special ones are the ones
Speaker 2: that have that chemistry and and you were on a
Speaker 2: number of those. To me, and having never covered this
Speaker 2: baseball team, uh that you can kind of see it
Speaker 2: even through the TV that there's that chemistry and and
Speaker 2: good teams have that some confidence.
Speaker 16: Absolutely, you know, and I don't think I think it's
Speaker 16: just kind of a mixture.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 16: It seems like even when I look back at our team,
Speaker 16: you know, you had your kind of guys that were
Speaker 16: a little wild, You had your uh good good goodie
Speaker 16: two shoe guys and out of your middle roads, and
Speaker 16: it seems like you need to have that little bit
Speaker 16: of friction out there to kind of really bond and
Speaker 16: get you know, moving forward. So you know, I don't
Speaker 16: know this team on that level, but I'm assuming there's
Speaker 16: a little bit of everything in there as well. So
Speaker 16: but it does seem to some of the best teams
Speaker 16: I've played on have a nice kind of blend of
Speaker 16: different personalities.
Speaker 6: I was just looking at the you know, the results
Speaker 6: of the of the eighty six season, and you guys
Speaker 6: scored like over twenty runs I don't know, like ten
Speaker 6: times that season. So you had some offense and you
Speaker 6: took that with you all the way to Omaha. But
Speaker 6: maybe the biggest moment was the was the Dave shechrmatt
Speaker 6: home run?
Speaker 4: Do you agree with that?
Speaker 6: And where were you standing or sitting when that all happened.
Speaker 16: I was in the dugout. It was kind of it
Speaker 16: was kind of funny because we were in such a
Speaker 16: hot roll all the way up into the World Series
Speaker 16: and that was just kind of a for whatever reason,
Speaker 16: that was just a flat game for us, and it
Speaker 16: was just like things just weren't kind of clicking that
Speaker 16: day and it didn't seem like, you know, we were
Speaker 16: there and I think there was you know, this was
Speaker 16: funny thing was there was some you could tell there
Speaker 16: was people a little down in the dug aff when
Speaker 16: it happened, and it was just to me, it was
Speaker 16: just amazing that he came off the bench because I
Speaker 16: pinch hit a lot when I was in the major
Speaker 16: leagues and know how difficult that is, and to see
Speaker 16: him he literally took five straight pitches. He didn't swing once.
Speaker 16: You know, you took three balls and two strikes, and
Speaker 16: you're just like, you better swing something, and you know,
Speaker 16: sure enough when he did. It was I think that
Speaker 16: just reinvigorated us to get back on track, which we
Speaker 16: did in the next game too, But it was certainly
Speaker 16: a shot in the arm to get us back on track.
Speaker 16: But we were on fire up until that game.
Speaker 6: If I remember too, it was was it close to midnight?
Speaker 6: I mean, it was really late. If I recall, it
Speaker 6: have been a long day of baseball.
Speaker 16: I couldn't couldn't remember. I couldn't even remember that.
Speaker 4: But when you're playing baseball, the time.
Speaker 16: Day, at night or whatever doesn't seem to matter because
Speaker 16: you're probably usually sleeping in pretty good. But I don't recall,
Speaker 16: But no, it was. It really was a trigger to
Speaker 16: kind of get us back on track.
Speaker 2: So I asked Coach did earlier just about Jerry coach
Speaker 2: Kendall a couple of things, just personality and stuff. He
Speaker 2: probably didn't have those raw, raw speeches for you guys,
Speaker 2: But what do you think And you saw it when
Speaker 2: you guys when he won the title.
Speaker 4: Did it? What did it mean to him?
Speaker 17: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I'm sure he didn't go crazy. He's a lot like
Speaker 2: Luke just ah shucks, we went again kind of thing.
Speaker 4: How was it? I don't know.
Speaker 16: He just had a he had a quiet confidence. He
Speaker 16: was always steady, Like you said, he would never never
Speaker 16: get too emotional. But I think, you know, it was
Speaker 16: almost as if and even while I was there, because
Speaker 16: you know, they won in seventy six and we won
Speaker 16: an eighty. It it's you know, and thinking about how
Speaker 16: long it took for the next team in twenty twelve
Speaker 16: from eighty six.
Speaker 4: But it was almost like this.
Speaker 16: You know, he expected us to perform and play at
Speaker 16: that level. And but you know, he was just always
Speaker 16: a very steady, calming, uh individual, didn't get too emotional,
Speaker 16: which I think helps, you know, I think that's important
Speaker 16: as a coach, is that your players don't see panic
Speaker 16: in you. And he was just you know, very you know,
Speaker 16: always instructive and guiding, but I think that's the biggest
Speaker 16: thing about him. He was you know, there was an
Speaker 16: expectation that we were going to perform at a high level,
Speaker 16: and he wasn't going to get emotional up or down.
Speaker 16: But you could tell, you know, you certainly didn't want
Speaker 16: to cross him either. He had a he had a
Speaker 16: sternness to him when it was necessary.
Speaker 2: Right. No that with saying that, let me say this.
Speaker 2: I say covered loot for a long time. Everybody knows
Speaker 2: this and in the books I've written in very really
Speaker 2: the guys loved playing for him, respected the hell out
Speaker 2: of him.
Speaker 4: And one of the.
Speaker 2: Things that Loop brought was that you didn't want the
Speaker 2: guys to say, you don't want to disappoint your your grandfather,
Speaker 2: and it was like playing for your grandfather and he's
Speaker 2: the last guy you don't want to disappoint. How was
Speaker 2: it planning for him because you probably respected him like
Speaker 2: crazy and just didn't want to disappoint him.
Speaker 16: I think that's I think that's an important part of
Speaker 16: any being a great manager, is that you don't have
Speaker 16: to force it on on.
Speaker 4: Your your players. But you're You're right.
Speaker 16: I think there's this maybe not just your grandfather, but
Speaker 16: your father you don't want to let him down. You know,
Speaker 16: he believes in you and and he's encouraging you, and
Speaker 16: I think that just shows a lot of respect for
Speaker 16: the players, you know, is that you know you're if
Speaker 16: if the team loses or if you perform poorly, you
Speaker 16: feel bad for the coach because he's you know, put
Speaker 16: so much into you and trust you and leaves in
Speaker 16: you and so. But yeah, he's certainly one of those
Speaker 16: managers that you know, he brings that out in the players.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: I guess we're all getting old, but next year will
Speaker 6: be your fortieth anniversary of that championship. Are there any
Speaker 6: plans do you know, if there's anything planned reunion wise.
Speaker 16: It's got changed so much. I remember going out there
Speaker 16: and having to play games when it is probably only
Speaker 16: ten twelve years ago. For each year we had alumni
Speaker 16: a weekend. So hopefully we'll do something special. You know,
Speaker 16: I've kept in touch with Steve Strong, and I see
Speaker 16: Joe asked this, and it's always nice to be able
Speaker 16: to have those guys in Tucssan so I can reconnect
Speaker 16: with them. But certainly, you know, I would love to
Speaker 16: go back, play some golf and celebrate with those guys
Speaker 16: for sure, and most likely we'll have something. I know
Speaker 16: the coach, he seems to have an interest in that
Speaker 16: I was sixteen, I would think.
Speaker 2: So, So let me say this if I can compare
Speaker 2: a Chip and Coach Kendall. Although it's hard because it's generational, right,
Speaker 2: Chip is going to be what's hold?
Speaker 4: Are you sixty something?
Speaker 16: Sixty one?
Speaker 4: Ship?
Speaker 16: I think might be a year younger than me.
Speaker 2: You're younger, so my age two sixty so my age.
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, do you think the kids today feel
Speaker 2: the same way that I just said with you? You
Speaker 2: don't want to disappoint your dad, your grandfather, even though
Speaker 2: that I guess today's sixty is not you know, tomorrow's eighty.
Speaker 4: You don't know, say, I.
Speaker 16: Would hope so, but gosh, you know, I hats off
Speaker 16: the Chip because I think this generation, although probably more
Speaker 16: talented physically than than we were, but completely different animal
Speaker 16: that I don't know that I can speak to in
Speaker 16: terms of that. And there's always gonna be guys like that,
Speaker 16: and uh, but there's there's just a probably a wide range.
Speaker 16: In a way, it's probably all the same, but uh,
Speaker 16: I think you'll find that a lot of them probably
Speaker 16: feel the same way. But hats off the chip. It's
Speaker 16: it's uh, it's probably a hard thing to manage now
Speaker 16: that it's become with Ni l and and you know,
Speaker 16: it just was just kind of a probably a more
Speaker 16: level playing field field in terms of players and and
Speaker 16: you know, but with this stuff, it's a whole new
Speaker 16: animal that I don't even know how, you know, how
Speaker 16: to how to manage at And that's something I'm sure
Speaker 16: that's a big challenge for him and his staff. But
Speaker 16: you know, deep down, I think the kids are probably
Speaker 16: the same.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean really, they had to basically turn over
Speaker 6: the entire pitching staff. I think this group from last
Speaker 6: year's is gone, and you know, it's a new group
Speaker 6: and here they are in a World Series, so pretty amazing.
Speaker 16: So yeah, that's that's a big challenge, Dave.
Speaker 4: So I could be wrong. Do you have a stud
Speaker 4: kid playing too? My son?
Speaker 16: I would I would say he was a stud in
Speaker 16: my eyes.
Speaker 4: But he did play.
Speaker 16: He did play D one baseball, but at North Dakota
Speaker 16: State with coach Brown, who used to he pitched at Arizona.
Speaker 16: And you know, like I said, I if anyone was
Speaker 16: listening out there, it was he wasn't kind of a
Speaker 16: you know, Arizona type player, but it was probably the
Speaker 16: perfect place for him. He's he went out there and
Speaker 16: the team actually won forty two games in his last year.
Speaker 16: They went and played in the regional against Stanford. But
Speaker 16: absolute great experience for him and Fargo loved the people there,
Speaker 16: loved his experience.
Speaker 4: So, I mean, there's a place for.
Speaker 16: Everyone to play and and you know, but it.
Speaker 4: Was good for him.
Speaker 16: I think the whole baseball experience just in and of
Speaker 16: itself and teaching you about hard work and overcoming challenges.
Speaker 16: So it wasn't wasn't a you know, super superstar, but
Speaker 16: loved you know, being a part of his development. And
Speaker 16: now he's doing great. He's in Saint Paul, Minnesota, and
Speaker 16: he's a financial advisor out there. So real proud of
Speaker 16: him too.
Speaker 2: Well, come on, he's living dreams of kids who wanted
Speaker 2: to play ball right somewhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, yeah, No, that's I'm saying. It's it's uh,
Speaker 16: it's just the experience itself is is you know, very meaningful?
Speaker 4: Did you say what you're up to?
Speaker 16: I'm a I've been a CPA for probably thirty years.
Speaker 16: I'm a CFO for a real estate company out here
Speaker 16: in Scottsdale. And you know, still love watching the Cats.
Speaker 16: Following the Cats, I love baseball. I'll watch as many
Speaker 16: games I can, and uh, you know, just kind of
Speaker 16: enjoying getting the point phasing our lives where kids are
Speaker 16: kind of growing up and getting looking to retire here
Speaker 16: on the horizon and playing some pickleball, and you know,
Speaker 16: just starting to try to enjoy things.
Speaker 2: Very nice, very nice. The guy with the glove, Thank you, Dave. Yeah,
Speaker 2: appreciate your time. Appreciate you the insight.
Speaker 16: Sure, let's go, let's go Cats. Hope they can get it,
Speaker 16: get it done this weekend, all right.
Speaker 4: Than Dave.
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Speaker 1: Tucson's sports station, Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to ing about here on Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Dave Silver. Yep, you're Ray.
Speaker 4: Got about fifteen minutes maybe at the most.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, if you want to call perfect time five
Speaker 2: two zero four one, six seventy four forty, let us
Speaker 2: know how we're doing. And an he calls, did you
Speaker 2: see Dave playing Dave? When I covered the Toros? He
Speaker 2: was on the team, and he was like this sure
Speaker 2: thing went his way. There's no way he's not gonna
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 6: He was the fifth round draft pick. I mean, he
Speaker 6: was drafted pretty he was the highest draft pick of
Speaker 6: that eighty.
Speaker 4: Sixteen and then we really, yes, wow, let me tay.
Speaker 6: His career didn't you know, last very long, but he.
Speaker 4: Was he was picked.
Speaker 2: I was surprised that that only in a sense that
Speaker 2: he was not a great hitter, right, and typically well
Speaker 2: nowadays that's all they go for it and hit the
Speaker 2: ball because defenders, How can I say this? Defenders don't
Speaker 2: drive the Cadillacs. It's the offensive players that drive the cadillact. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you know, obviously he got his degree.
Speaker 6: He says he's been a CPA for thirty years, so
Speaker 6: I think life has turned out, you know, just how
Speaker 6: he liked it.
Speaker 4: You know, he's always his good family.
Speaker 6: You know, his son played Division one baseball, so sounds good.
Speaker 6: And those guys, you know, many of them had you know,
Speaker 6: successful careers. Gil Heredia that one of the starting pitchers
Speaker 6: on that team is still in baseball still.
Speaker 2: You have the roster up there, I could grab it here,
Speaker 2: you said, right, Chia.
Speaker 6: Tommy Hinzo made the Major Leagues. Chip of course played.
Speaker 6: You know, the outfield was was good. Garmalat, Mike Senny,
Speaker 6: guys who had I think they each had you know,
Speaker 6: cups of coffee. Maybe got to the majors as well.
Speaker 6: So it was a good groups. You strong you know,
Speaker 6: has been in Tucson forever. He never left high school,
Speaker 6: you know, went to high school here and he's done well.
Speaker 2: You were here for how many of his titles coaches?
Speaker 2: Just the one? Yeah, just the eighty six, so he
Speaker 2: had four, right or no, three?
Speaker 4: Three they're going for five now, so he had yeah,
Speaker 4: three eighties.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so they made it in seven, they made it
Speaker 6: in seventy nine, but didn't worry.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you because you were here for
Speaker 2: some of that, what do you think at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, And maybe I'll ask you what Kendall's
Speaker 2: legacy was or ish boy, And I asked for a
Speaker 2: reason because I want to follow it up.
Speaker 4: Take your time.
Speaker 6: I don't know, I mean, how much time I can
Speaker 6: I pause? No, I mean I think just being a
Speaker 6: great leader and setting some of these guys up for success,
Speaker 6: you know, either professionally in the sport or as professionals
Speaker 6: outside of the sport. I mean some you here again,
Speaker 6: some of the guys at have stayed in Tucson that
Speaker 6: we've know. Joe Askedes of the Estes family of the homes,
Speaker 6: you know, he was kind of the next generation of
Speaker 6: that business. He's had great success. Steve Strong has had
Speaker 6: great success. I'm sure the guys themselves could tell you.
Speaker 6: You know, here they are. They're gonna have a fortieth
Speaker 6: re union next year. They're gonna get together and look
Speaker 6: at each other and go, wow, we've had quite a run.
Speaker 6: And maybe that all kind of began under the leadership
Speaker 6: of their coach, much like Lute.
Speaker 4: They were side by side for it. And that was
Speaker 4: my next question.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you have this, if he has this legacy
Speaker 2: with three what is Lut's legacy, and we kind of
Speaker 2: it kind of changes because he you know, he brought
Speaker 2: basketball here or inflated it a little yeah, uh a
Speaker 2: little a lot, and he had one title. Jerry had three, right,
Speaker 2: So you know, we know what Loot's legacy is kind
Speaker 2: of like established Tucson.
Speaker 6: Established Tucson and you know established, you know, just a
Speaker 6: slew of players going off and making a billion dollars.
Speaker 2: And that's what that's my point. He did that for basketball,
Speaker 2: but kindall do this for baseball? Do that for baseball too?
Speaker 4: Yeah a lot.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, the money situation is not the
Speaker 6: same obviously, Like you know, look at the Terry Francon
Speaker 6: as the world still in baseball, you know, probably considered
Speaker 6: still the best player of all time in Arizona and
Speaker 6: he was right here in the heart of Jerry Kendall world.
Speaker 2: Right right, So let me ask you again, who's what's
Speaker 2: Ken Drean's legacy.
Speaker 6: Well, the championships doesn't doesn't hurt little with the leadership
Speaker 6: and plus growing the sport of softball, college softball, I
Speaker 6: mean back in the day, I mean girls played and
Speaker 6: they you know, they played Bobby socks and maybe high
Speaker 6: school and maybe there were some college teams around, but
Speaker 6: that wasn't even happening until really the eighties, and Can
Speaker 6: Dre was right in the heart of that, and you know,
Speaker 6: it struck it rich here in Tucson.
Speaker 4: And he's if you're going to give a goat, I mean,
Speaker 4: the dude's a goat. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Maybe even at Arizona, you know, yeah, I mean he's
Speaker 2: comparently old Mount Rushmore whatever.
Speaker 4: We've talked about that all the time.
Speaker 6: But I mean, you know again, remember too, I don't know,
Speaker 6: we didn't really touch on it this week, but you know,
Speaker 6: Chip and Steve Kerr were kind of side by side
Speaker 6: at the same period of you know, eighty six seven,
Speaker 6: Steve is done, you know, eighty eight. I mean there
Speaker 6: was there was some I don't know if it was
Speaker 6: compares the right word, but they were similar.
Speaker 4: They were kind of leaders on the court.
Speaker 2: I don't know much about I didn't cover either of
Speaker 2: them back in the day, but as you talk and
Speaker 2: listening to the guys, very similar, yeah, demeanor, the self effacing,
Speaker 2: doesn't take their self serious. Yep, very bright, very bright.
Speaker 2: I mean that's not lost and just almost not the
Speaker 2: same guy, but the same.
Speaker 4: Guy, right, I mean, you should.
Speaker 6: We should look it up if we have a chance again,
Speaker 6: just side by side, because I mean Chip was done
Speaker 6: I think in eighty seven, so I mean Steve still
Speaker 6: had like one more year. I mean they were here
Speaker 6: together at the same time, and that was you know,
Speaker 6: interesting that that was all going on.
Speaker 4: And look what they both.
Speaker 2: Became, right, No, no, very successful. And don't take what
Speaker 2: I noticed is is Steve doesn't take himself seriously.
Speaker 4: He's just a dude. Uh.
Speaker 2: And I've said this a number of times on people
Speaker 2: who don't agree with his politics or whatever. To me,
Speaker 2: the smartest guy I've ever met, and I've known a
Speaker 2: lot of people in politics and in sports, just because
Speaker 2: he's so eclectic.
Speaker 6: I bet too, just the way Michael Center was set
Speaker 6: up in those years too, they probably were buddies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they knew each other.
Speaker 6: I don't know, you know, if that happens anymore because
Speaker 6: baseball is off off campus and you know, they're kind
Speaker 6: of on their own now, but in those years, you
Speaker 6: know they were. They're probably in the weight room together. Again,
Speaker 6: they were the same same time.
Speaker 4: So let me ask you.
Speaker 2: You you were saying or inferring that maybe there was
Speaker 2: a story or two back in the day. Uh kind
Speaker 2: of mirror images type of thing. Maybe even by you.
Speaker 6: Could be I don't really remember, but because there could
Speaker 6: have been some stories we did. You know, they were
Speaker 6: rooting for each other. I mean there's seasons kind of
Speaker 6: you know, crossed over with basketball and baseball, you know,
Speaker 6: hitting in in the winter.
Speaker 2: Well to your point again, even Kindle Kendall's stid said, uh,
Speaker 2: there was one dude who could go to and he
Speaker 2: didn't say dude, one player that could go to coach
Speaker 2: Kendall and kind of.
Speaker 4: Talk to him about stuff. Guess back in the day, guess.
Speaker 2: Who could do that, right, Steve Kerr Wait, oh to
Speaker 2: loose Yeah, yeah, you know, later there was Miles you know,
Speaker 2: maybe a couple others, but Steve back then, I'm sure
Speaker 2: was that guy.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Steve, what do you have for me? I'm sure?
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 6: And then you know the Cole Kenny Lofton crossover thing
Speaker 6: that was all kind of going on around that same
Speaker 6: time too.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean I know that.
Speaker 6: Well obviously just look at look at the years they
Speaker 6: were they were there on campus together and you're having
Speaker 6: great success as coaches.
Speaker 2: Now, well, look at that campus. You had you had football,
Speaker 2: you had.
Speaker 4: Chuck.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Chuck, you had Steve exactly. Yeah, I mean Shuck
Speaker 6: was that whole group. I mean, you're right, and I
Speaker 6: don't know who was there for basketball, but Sean was there.
Speaker 2: Well, but Steve's coming, Steve, Chuck, you had Chip with
Speaker 2: all that eighty six group right there. Yep, God, I'm
Speaker 2: sure that it was. But there was a little there
Speaker 2: was a little sports was like holy crap.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but again they were kids. We weren't sure just.
Speaker 6: Then, but like, hey, now that as we look back,
Speaker 6: we go, yeah, you know, he was a pretty good
Speaker 6: leader on the field. And I remember Chip even then.
Speaker 6: You know, you could you could just tell that, you know,
Speaker 6: he was the guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well the good old days. You were here
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 4: Man. I just come a year later.
Speaker 6: Okay, now he can he win a national championship and
Speaker 6: talk about his legacy.
Speaker 2: Now, kids, that Gray or is gonna I go to
Speaker 2: u A. I don't know any about anybo all those days.
Speaker 6: You gotta look up the history. I was always a
Speaker 6: history fan, and especially sports. Yeah, I mean that's always
Speaker 6: kind of been my go to thing, and it's always exciting.
Speaker 6: I love watching old films and seeing highlights and stuff.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, those Laurel and Hardy movies. I like to think.
Speaker 3: I like to think that I am too, Like I'll
Speaker 3: go back and watch old games. Read the book obviously,
Speaker 3: but it's just.
Speaker 4: What book you got it for me?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: What book? Uh? Lessons from it? How did you get it?
Speaker 4: They were selling out a Barnes and Nobles. Oh really? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Did you get it from me? What the hell? I
Speaker 4: didn't know?
Speaker 6: Did you get You get a percentage if you sell
Speaker 6: it yourself.
Speaker 2: That's the only way I make money. How you think
Speaker 2: I don't have a royalty royalty deal is a bunch
Speaker 2: of crap.
Speaker 3: Sorry, but I read what struck you the most?
Speaker 4: I didn't know this well.
Speaker 5: I mean it was just like it was different because
Speaker 5: you read like I like to read.
Speaker 3: I like to read a lot of baseball books and
Speaker 3: like mostly about the giants and stuff like that, or
Speaker 3: about like just like figures in sports that I like,
Speaker 3: like I read.
Speaker 4: I read the John Madden. You're not telling me what
Speaker 4: did you think about it? I want to bring a
Speaker 4: touch on my It was good. It was good.
Speaker 5: I thought it was.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was it was cool.
Speaker 3: How you kept the lighthearted and then like would like
Speaker 3: I would still like have like you know, the underlying
Speaker 3: lessons from the like from the players and the stories.
Speaker 5: My favorite chapter is always I forget who was I.
Speaker 4: Was going to ask you what was your favorit chapter?
Speaker 5: It was it was the guy that would whenever they
Speaker 5: had run on the.
Speaker 4: Mall, oh Tom Tolbert, when he yeah, yeah, they run.
Speaker 4: You didn't hear the story. Now, Oh, so this is
Speaker 4: the legendary story.
Speaker 2: So they'd make him run right laps, two miles whatever,
Speaker 2: and they had to be around the what do you
Speaker 2: call it the fountain but down you know, too much.
Speaker 5: Down the mall?
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, yeah, behind me. Yeah, so you know he's running.
Speaker 4: He's running, and the guys were sweating, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Says I'm just gonna stand, get in the fountain, get wet,
Speaker 2: and they're gonna run. They're gonna run and then get
Speaker 2: out and then run. By the time I get there,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be less wet.
Speaker 4: Right uh. And they'll think it sweat, they'll think get sweat.
Speaker 2: And he did it a couple of times and then
Speaker 2: I guess one of the managers went and looked and
Speaker 2: saw him in there, but he didn't run him out.
Speaker 6: Yeah that that fountain is pretty famous too. I think
Speaker 6: many people have had a dip in there through the years.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I can see Tolbert taking advantage of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like the one did you The last
Speaker 2: chapter was your guy radio guy.
Speaker 4: Phoenix got why am I so?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 10: He?
Speaker 2: You know, he's famous for being radio and was let
Speaker 2: go and he was looking for a job and he
Speaker 2: put Loot on the resume and some dude, some guy
Speaker 2: that he was trying to get a job for Todd,
Speaker 2: could you tell this guy who keeps calling me every
Speaker 2: day Loot or something, I know who you are. He
Speaker 2: doesn't have to keep calling me. The kid didn't know
Speaker 2: who Loot was, right, this guy keeps calling me, you know,
Speaker 2: tell him I know who daughter is.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So funny, and I know it's a good book.
Speaker 4: Small World.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, like I said, like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: it's just, uh, it feels like a little tougher to
Speaker 3: find stuff on baseball.
Speaker 5: But like I don't know, like you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 4: They actually that's not about you're giving me some ideas.
Speaker 3: Now, there's a because like you can watch old football games,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Sure on YouTube and stuff, and it's just like do
Speaker 5: that all the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's like it's the nineteen fifty nine NFL championship. Yeah,
Speaker 4: exactly right. Yeah, So but you're.
Speaker 2: Actually give me an idea because the baseball, if they
Speaker 2: do really well, his history has been very kind to
Speaker 2: you a baseball not a lot a lot of kind,
Speaker 2: but it's been very kind going back to the eighty six,
Speaker 2: going back to the seventy six.
Speaker 6: I mean definitely the guys from eighty I'm the Francona team.
Speaker 2: Some of those guys are. I'll have to still playing.
Speaker 2: I'll have to do exactly what you said for when
Speaker 2: we had lunch.
Speaker 4: How do you get hold of this guy? Take it out?
Speaker 4: Where do you find? Is he still alive? Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, okay, well thanks, I didn't know
Speaker 2: who bought that as your next book. There's so many options.
Speaker 2: So I got Kenny, I got people on the leak.
Speaker 4: Yeah you know.
Speaker 6: Now, I think definitely you should look at that, look
Speaker 6: into the Steve Kerr Chip Hale timeline and see what
Speaker 6: was going on in those hums.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, like you're saying, Chip and who else in eighty
Speaker 4: six football?
Speaker 2: Chuck another another bright dude, right, yeah, very smart guy.
Speaker 6: And also got into coaching. So the similarities there for sure.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, there is a lot of similar day. It's
Speaker 6: like a trifecta right there. Man, Yeah, there's that's a story.
Speaker 6: It is the story. Yeah, and then being and we're
Speaker 6: coming up to, like, you know, the fortieth anniversary of
Speaker 6: these things.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I'm sure, like you said, he probably
Speaker 2: hung out together and you know, saw each other on
Speaker 2: campus and things. Okay, cool, Yeah, what a time to
Speaker 2: be alive during that time. You were here and I
Speaker 2: didn't even realize it You're too busy.
Speaker 4: But it was fun.
Speaker 6: I mean, those are like some of the highlights of
Speaker 6: my career. Where those your partner Brad.
Speaker 4: Who was okay, who was the news people? The news
Speaker 4: was guy? Ashley was here by then beck to you guys?
Speaker 10: Guy?
Speaker 17: You guy? He and I he and rinked on high school.
Speaker 17: He did he come to Oklahoma City? I think he
Speaker 17: may have come to Oklahoma City where he loved shooting
Speaker 17: still photography.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what he does. Somehow he finagled his way.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure he made it. Well, you know, he's
Speaker 4: from Oklahoma, the Birds of Omaha. Yeah, no, no, this
Speaker 4: is Oklahoma when the with the softball team.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and next thing you know, we're we're out there
Speaker 6: covering the games and the guys on the field.
Speaker 4: So he came. He loved doing that stuff. Okay, we
Speaker 4: got to go. Good day. Thank you Dave for coming in.
Speaker 4: Thank you Ray.
Speaker 5: I shoot, tomorrow, I will be here tomorrow.
Speaker 4: I'm excited. I'm excited for tomorrow. All right, guys, thanks
Speaker 4: for listening.