Speaker 1: Everyone. I'm Matt Ford, and welcome to the Good Trouble Show.
The issue of drones operating with impunity in our airspace
is a national security crisis.
Speaker 2: So here's the question to our mutual friend, mister Ford.
Speaker 1: First of all, welcome Matt. I hope we have more
conversations going forward.
Speaker 3: Appreciate what you're.
Speaker 1: Trying to do. Thank you, Chris. Either they don't know
or they don't want us to know. Which do you
think it is?
Speaker 3: And why?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Chris, thanks thanks for having me. I mean, you know,
really the takeaway here, you know, when you when you
hear the testimony from Officer Grooms, it demonstrates that the
Biden Harris administration is absolutely gas lighting Americans. I mean,
you know, just look at the clip that you played
of Pete but a judge, you know, making fun of it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: So, you know, despite mounting concerns from local authorities in
New Jersey and elsewhere, the White House is just not
being honest with the American people. They want, you know,
they want the Americans to think that this is something new.
I think it was NC National Security Council spokesman Admiral
John Kirby said, you know, oh, you know, we want
the same answers as you do. But with Chris's story
and others, it lays there that this is a nation
wide problem, dating back to at least twenty nineteen. What
occurred in Colorado and Nebraska just last year, you know,
December of last year, in twenty twenty three, Langley Air
Force Base was virtually shut down by massive swarms of drones.
They had to relocate, relocate an entire wing of F
twenty two fighters just this Thanksgiving of this year, you know,
prior to what happened in New Jersey, these things began
showing up over our joint Air Force spaces in the UK.
They are showing up at NATO bases in Europe and Germany.
Andrews Air Force Space recently had to shut down their airspace.
They are in Nebraska, New York. You know, the drones
over Nebraska in twenty nineteen. What you know what Officer
Grooms is referring to. You know, these these are virtually
identical in description and behavior to what is being reported
now you know, so so, Chris. It leads to the
question why the disparity in decision making for shootdowns between
you know, what you had with the Chinese balloons and
the drones. You know, it both caused public alarm and concern.
Why is the Biden administration now not reacting to these jones,
these drones? You know, you have a new Jersey mayor
who said they hovered over his home with the same
seriousness as they did with the Chinese balloons. You know, yeah,
you know what, you know, why why the difference? That's
that's what I think. No one can figure out what
the hell is going on in the Bible administration. So
that was yours truly, along with the former chief of
Police of Ord, Nebraska, Chris Grooms on News Nation with
Chris Cuomo. The point I was making on air is
that the Biden administration is gas lighting the public and
local officials on what it knows about these mysterious drones.
I also pointed out on News Nation that the Biden
administration wants everyone to think that this is something new,
something you know, they want to get to the bottom of.
You know, we we you know, we need to send
teams out and spend millions or billions of taxpayer dollars
on new sensor systems so they can figure out what
the hell is operating in our skies again like this
has never happened before. You know, We've seen that kind
of behavior time and time again out of the Biden administration,
out of previous administrations as well, and also obviously the Pentagon.
The White House is just gas lighting everybody. And you know,
and really the worst worst thing about it is they
are not being honest with state and local law enforcement. Really, frankly,
they are a lying to them, you know, because here's
here's the truth, folks. The Biden administration knows precisely what
this is and where this comes from. And you know,
and here's the thing. The fact is is that this
has been going on for a long time. When National
Security Spokesman Admiral John National Security Council Spokesman John Kirby
gets on CNN or Fox or whatever and acts like
that this is something new, he is he's full of shit.
He's not. They're not being straight with you. And moreover,
when they do this, this throws our excuse me, are
men and women of law enforcement. This essentially throws them
under the bus. This is basically saying, these folks that
are trained observers have no idea what they are looking for.
It is. It is a slap in the face from
the Biden administration to anyone that has served or is
serving this country, and frankly, it's disgusting. So today, the
former chief of Police of Ord, Nebraska, Chris Groomes, will
join us again on the show. But we also have
another law enforcement official going public for the very first time.
He will show fifteen never before seen clips of drones
he has caught on his phone and is a security
camera while on duty duty. Excuse me, but first please
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We always appreciate the support. Okay. So today's guests are
the epitome of serving your country. On your left here
is a US Army Airborne Infantry veteran who is now
serving his country as a law enforcement professional. As a
sheriff's deputy for Valley County, Nebraska. He was the department's
sniper and firearms instructor. He is now the former chief
of police for ord Nebraska. When we actually had him
on for our interview, he was a chief of police
at the time. So please welcome back to the show.
On everyone's left. Chief former police chief Chris Groomes on
the right, going public for the very first time with
his experiences. Please welcome from Valley County, Nebraska, from the
Sheriff's Department. There a Deputy Jade Steadham. Gentlemen, how are
you welcome to the show?
Speaker 2: Pretty good?
Speaker 1: How are you excellent?
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me?
Speaker 1: Thanks, yeah, and thanks thanks for coming back. Chris. So, Chris,
let's start with you firstly, like I said, welcome back
to the show. Really glad, really glad you're here. How
have these citizens of Ord, Nebraska reacted to you going
public and you know and really frankly standing up for
your town and your community.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's been pretty much the same thing as
before that recently or you know, earlier when I was
trying to get this out there to the government. You know,
it's thank you for what you're doing. We really appreciate it. Right,
it hasn't stopped. It's it's still it's still people wanting
to know what's going on, and they do come to me,
whether through text, email, give me a phone call. They're
reaching out to me because they're still concerned.
Speaker 1: Of course, Now, Deputy steedem am, I saying your last
name correctly.
Speaker 2: Steedem Yep, that's correct.
Speaker 1: Okay, I tend to butcher names on this show. I
don't know, Maybe I need to take like an addiction
or pronunciation class or something like that. Okay, So you're
going public with your experiences. This is the first time.
How does it feel. Are you nervous? Excited? What are
you feeling right now?
Speaker 2: Definitely a little nervous.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well don't don't don't be nervous here. You're
amongst friends here, and you know, and as I mentioned
off off the air before we started, my hat is
really off to both of you. The easy way would
be to stay silent about this and not you know,
not go public. Uh. You know, you always have, you know,
the folks that that try to propagate the stigma and
all of that. But as you know, as I've said
Tim and again on this on this show, this is
really a public safety issue. This is a national security issue.
So having trained observers such as yourself, not to discount
people at home that see this stuff and report it.
But the fact that that both of you are are
paid law enforcement professionals, uh, and and you are trained observer,
what the statements you make can be are admissible in
courting cases and whatnot, so you know, so it's not
like you guys aren't used to looking at things in
the line of your work and making evaluations of what
you are looking at. So my hat is off to
both of you, and really we really appreciate it. So
before we dig into what Deputy Streedum, as you know
what you've encountered, Chris, walk us through, if you don't mind,
once again, what happened in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty
in Valley County. And I understand you were not chief
of police at that time. You were a deputy in
the same sheriff's department that Deputy Stedum is incorrect.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's correct. So back in twenty nineteen, late December,
we started having things flying around that shouldn't have been there,
and as far as you know the area where I lived,
this stuff was happening. We do have your commercial flyover
planes at thirty five thirty eight thousand feet, but as
far as at one hundred feet, one hundred and fifty feet,
sometimes even sixty feet, we were seeing things that didn't
make sense. They shouldn't have been there. They weren't from
our local military, from our local law enforcement, you know,
the state patrol was telling us that it wasn't their stuff.
These things were doing very odd things around in our community,
whether it was you know, harassing livestock or hovering over
the town, swarming the town. Upwards of fifty of these
things swarming around Arcadia, Nebraska. They just, like I said
in the recent interview, it just didn't make sense when.
Speaker 1: You say harassing livestock. Exactly what was reported and how
many reports nine to one one calls did you get
regarding that.
Speaker 3: As far as the livestock stuff, the harassmental livestock, It
wasn't every night, it wasn't reoccurring, but it was. It
did happen a few times from a few different ranchers
or farmers about these lights in the sky just shining
down a light if you want to call it that
on their cattle, and it would make their cattle move off,
or their horses even would move off, and they'd have
to go out the next day trying to get accountability again.
And sometimes these things, you know, would chase off their
their livestock two miles away and they would have to
go search for these things for two miles away, and
out here in Board Nebraska, we have huge sand hills
and sometimes it can be a super pain in the
ass to get your UTV or your four wheeler, especially
when it's cold, down into a draw or ravene to
try and find these animals. So, you know, not only
are you wasting your resources going out trying to find
these expensive animals, but there's all the possibility of a
rollover or you know, know, not having cell service, not
being able to get hold of somebody. So it just
became a nuisance.
Speaker 1: And describe what you saw in terms, because you saw
these drones yourself. How big were they? And yeah, how
big were they? Did they do they sound similar to
what is being reported in New Jersey?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the the one that I saw very very close,
you know, one hundred feet one hundred and fifty feet
in the air. It was nothing but a big, bright light.
There was no there was no shape to it. I
couldn't tell if it had beans, just because due to
how bright that light was, and like I had mentioned,
it had it had contrails behind it, but it was
going so fast that for me to even be able
to see what it was other than a bright light.
It was almost impossible.
Speaker 1: So you weren't able to That's sorry, going ahead.
Speaker 3: No, I was just going to say some of the
other reports that we received from our nine point one
or just some of our local witnesses calling in, it
was similar to what some of the stuff in New
Jersey is showing us.
Speaker 1: And what was what was in terms of like size,
what was what was the most commonly reported size of
people seeing these things?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we had we had plenty, plenty of reports
on large ones, you know, the size of pickup trucks,
of subs, as well as sometimes when we would see
swarms of upwards of eleven to forty eight to fifty,
they typically weren't your large ones. They were of a
smaller nature. Whether it was a quad copter or a
bright light, I don't know, but they they typically were
the smaller looking ones when they were in the bigger formations,
and it seemed like the well, please go ahead, I
was going to say, it seemed like the big ones
if you want, if you want to call them that,
the bigger size drones, balls of light. They they typically
were by themselves.
Speaker 1: Okay, And did these things make any noise at all?
Speaker 3: The night that I saw the big giant ball of
light in the sky that a few other witnesses and
the sheriff himself saw it. It was silent, there was
there was nothing.
Speaker 1: And how high was this off the ground? Could it
have been just too high to hear anything?
Speaker 3: No, it definitely was anywhere between one hundred and one
hundred and fifty feet high, because I referenced off its
height with the co Op towers light, which is about
one hundred hundred and fifty feet, so it was right there.
Speaker 1: That's yeah. So that's pretty low, and it is for
the most part. The nine to one one calls that
came in regarding us and the calls to service that
you guys acted upon, were was that sort of the
typical altitude? These these things weren't up as high as
a as like a commercial airliner. They were fairly low
to the ground.
Speaker 3: Yeah. They they were sometimes at tree level, you know,
fIF sixty feet.
Speaker 1: Even the large ones they were low.
Speaker 3: What's that?
Speaker 1: Even the large ones.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, the the large ones not only just
in our county, but in the surrounding counties that these
deputies and the sheriffs were reporting to, they were low.
They were that sixty to one hundred and fifty feet And.
Speaker 1: Was the public at the time were they panicked about this?
What characterized the number of volumes excuse me, the number
of nine to one one calls that you that you
guys received, and overall, what was the tone of those
calls in terms of the emotion or concern from the
citizens calling in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it initially wasn't really a concerning thing. It's only
after they continued to show up and we're showing up
in bigger numbers, and that you know, even US local
law enforcement guys. We're telling people, hey, we can't find them,
we can't track them, we don't know where they're coming from,
we don't know where they're going. We're reaching out to
federal authorities, you know, off at Air Force Base. And
then when they started giving us the yeah, it's not us,
we don't know, we're looking into it, you know, then
it became a concern to the to the local populists
that they knew, you know, this isn't normal and somebody
needs to fess up and let us know what's going on.
Speaker 1: Did the US government I understand that that that the sheriff,
the sheriff, they're contacted the FBI, d H s f A,
A US strat Com? Did did the government? Did the
White House at the time? Did anyone from the federal
government eventually come back to you guys, say like three
months later and say, oh, we figured out what these
things are? No? Okay, So absolutely absolutely no response from
the federal government that just after what you guys encountered stopped,
They just seemed to stop caring.
Speaker 3: Yep. The only people that were caring were journalists.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable if you would walk us well, actually, firstly, how
many nine to one one calls do you think you
guys received over that twenty nineteen twenty twenty period. And
then second, if you were to put a number on
the total drones that were operating in the county, what
would you put that at as an estimate?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So for Valley County, including the ORG nine calls,
I would estimate between forty four and forty eight in
that fourteen to seventeen days. And as far as the
surrounding counties, they were seeing the same stuff at the
same time as we were, So you can only imagine
what we are receiving in our county approximately the same
hour at night. The other counties are receiving the same
thing as well, you know, and some of these counties
were one hundred miles away. So, like I had said
in the past, this was a very well coordinated, well
funded incident. And it's just mind boggling that we're being
told that, oh, don't worry about it. You know, it's
they're out looking for this, or you know, this is
just an isolated incident, because it's not.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually, I had no idea. I thought at the
time when we recorded your interview, which I think was
it may have been well over a month ago, but
it was only happening in that one, one city at
a time. I didn't realize it was. It was so prolific.
That's that's pretty significant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep. And you know, you can imagine out here
in middle of nowhere, Nebraska, we we are not a
huge law enforcement presence, but we all worked together. We
we talked to the other counties, the other pds, state patrol,
we we all you know, we all have have each
other on speed dial if you want to call it
that for stuff. So you can only imagine when I'm
seeing stuff in my county and then a deputy from
a county just next to me is calling saying, dude,
are you seeing this crap? Are you guys getting calls
down there? Yep, yep, we're we're dealing with the two man.
Speaker 1: So that's yeah. That's now. How big is Ord, Nebraska
in terms of the population.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or it's about twenty one twenty two hundred people,
and then Valley Counties pushing close to five thousand and.
Speaker 1: Okay, wow, so there aren't a lot of people out there.
Speaker 3: No, And and Valley County is not huge, but it's
not small. I think it's about five hundred and sixty
eight square miles the county is okay.
Speaker 1: And is there much in the way of air traffic
that occurs in Valley County?
Speaker 3: No, just just your typical crop dusters and and and
you know some of our local military coming out of
Grand Island flight Chinooks and black Hawks, and we might
have a metavact coming in once in a while from
Carnie or Lincoln or Grand Island. But that's that's not
every hour every day. It's it's maybe a couple of
times a week if that. And you can hear the
helicopters coming in, so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can get some commercial flights up high too.
But you can hear those even even at that altitude.
Speaker 3: Okay, and you and you can tell that at those
commercial flights that are flying over that are coming from
New York or Los Angeles or Denver, you can tell
that they're at thirty five thousand, thirty eight thousand feet.
It's way up there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And you just know, now, Deputy Stephen, were you in
law enforcement in Nebraska during the twenty nineteen twenty twenty wave?
Speaker 2: Nope, I was not in my ownness at that time.
Speaker 1: So did you a as not working in law enforcement
at the time. Did you see any of these during
twenty nineteen twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: I did not.
Speaker 4: My mother did, actually, so she called me up and
was just ecstatic that there was just hundreds of them
out all over Valley County and she witnessed personally like
twenty plus just hovering up above the ground or the
size of cars.
Speaker 1: Twenty plus Yep. That's yeah, wow. Okay, So I want
to start digging in, digging in to some of the
these videos that you've sent and and then you know,
we'll just kind of split the show up. This this
show is a little bit different in that we're not
going to really have sort of a strict format. So
we'll look at some of your videos and then Chris
will come back to you and and learn a little
bit more about about what you encountered. But Deputy Deputy steedam,
when did all of this crank crank up? Was it
just a couple of days ago? Like? When did you
notice an uptick? And what is account what is currently
occurring now in Valley County, Nebraska?
Speaker 4: Once again, yeah, it's been about a few weeks. Just
out of nowhere, they just started popping up. It came
kind of in correlation with the new Jersey stuff. As
soon as that started getting rampant, it kind of seemed
like everything else was coming up here as well. It
just kind of followed. But I feel like also the
more people pay attention, the more they see.
Speaker 1: So right, yeah, the more they're looking at that. That
makes sense. Okay, So so so what we've done so
over you know, really I think the past couple of weeks.
So so you reached out to us, uh and and
you began sending us videos of what you were encountering
almost every night, uh in while on duty. And you
are the so you are the main the main person
on on the night shift in Valley County, correct for
the Sheriff's Department.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, great, Okay, So what we did, uh because
one of the one of the things that you hear
the Biden administration say and the Pentagon is that you know, these,
you know, what is.
Speaker 1: Being seen in New Jersey are just commercial airplanes that
are misidentified or law enforcement drones or hobbyist drones. Uh,
which actually leads me to this question. It just popped
into my head. Uh how often do you guys see
hobbyist drones?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: In in Valley County?
Speaker 2: No, not very often.
Speaker 4: We got I think there's one outfit by Arcadia that
sprays like their fields and stuff. They do that and
they make drones. But other than that, it's not really
a thing over here.
Speaker 1: Okay, So this isn't like people so you know the
teenagers are flying drones every night? No? Okay, okay, great. So, So,
as I said, that's been the kind of line we're
hearing from the Biden administration and others is that they
think everybody is in New Jersey is just imagining all
of this, or they're misconstruing airplanes and hobbyist drones and
law enforcement drones for these things. You know, there's nothing
to worry here. Uh you know, let's let's let's not
talk about these things shutting down our air bases. So
what we did is, uh off off, Deputy Stredam, is
we took your videos. Your videos we had that, we
had you send them to us raw. So we have
all of the metadata. We have the position of the
latitude longitude of where you were, the exact time and date.
And then what we did is we went through flight
radar twenty four and we looked at the historical radar
data for that exact time and place. So what we're
going to show you are these videos and on the
left you'll see what you shot a Deputy Stadum on
your phone, and then on the right will be the
radar at that time that you were filming it. So anyway, yeah,
so feel free to jump in if you have any
have any commentary. But this is one of the first clips.
This occurred on December sixteenth at eighteen six standard time.
And by the way, we did because we know people
like Mickwest and some of these other debunkers. Just so
everyone knows the central local time and we converted it
into uh UTC, which is you know, what's used in aviation.
So anyway, here is the first clip, and if you
want to tell us what we're looking at here, please
feel free.
Speaker 2: In another road, all right, Yeah, this one here is
just outside of Ford, Nebraska.
Speaker 1: This is out or yep.
Speaker 4: I was just driving down the road and happened to
see him in the sky and then.
Speaker 2: I actually caught two here.
Speaker 4: I think this one intercepts with another one and they
cross paths.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh there is I see I see two of
them blinking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And at this point, I actually I think it's
talking to Chris, and I was asking him, you know,
like the determination of hey, is this an airplane or not,
trying to figure stuff like that out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't think their airplanes?
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I would, I would say not do any
of these feel at all like like they are you know,
sort of conventional drones.
Speaker 2: Well like this one in particular.
Speaker 4: Actually, when it's going, like Chris was saying earlier, it
has contrails that you can barely see on it, so
it's it's it's weird. But at the same time, you
can't hear hearing, like expelling anything like you should be
able to you can't hear anything.
Speaker 2: Okay, So just it's just baffling.
Speaker 1: Now. Now, uh, this was a part where I didn't
run the radar radar as long as uh as I
should have. But I'm just going to back the clip
up here and as you what I want to point
out here and I'm going to pause. This is ord
is around in the middle of this map. Uh and
this was set i think to one one kilometer resolution. So,
uh so you know, these these airplanes that are in
the top left, they're they're pretty far, they're pretty far out.
And on top of that, uh, you know, I'm having
a hard time reading it on my screen. But but
those those air aircraft are at around twenty five thousand
feet and and you know, and they're moving in a
straight line. As you can see in your video. These
things are just it looks like they're just kind of
staying in place.
Speaker 2: Community.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh yeah, pretty uh pretty pretty wild. So
So when you when you see these things, do you
think that these are prosaic drones? Do they feel like
it's maybe something not from here? What is your sort
of personal take on where these things might be coming from.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely got an eerie feel to it.
Speaker 4: After watching multiple of these things fly around, you can
definitely tell that, like it's just not any of the
stuff that we would have in our in our technology,
we don't have anything that advanced the way that they
move and like their maneuver move abilities and the no
sound and.
Speaker 2: Just the speed of them. They're just astronomically fast.
Speaker 1: So you have seen these things go faster than what
you've seen aircraft or drones operate out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I tried to get it on camera multiple times, but
you can see them. They'll start in one position and
then they'll kind of do a circle and then they
just go on.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, let's watch the next one. This
was at This was actually the same day on December sixteenth.
The first one was at six oh six pm. And
this is something that occurred at let's see here six
twenty five pm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one that really got me going.
Speaker 4: It's going one direction at I believe it's head and west,
and then all of a sudden, the lights just shut
off completely.
Speaker 2: It just went dark, and I was like, WHOA, what
the heck?
Speaker 4: And then it turned directions did like a sharp ninety
and you started coming back my direction, and that's when
I got this video.
Speaker 1: Now, there was a aircraft somewhat overhead at a flight
level three five zero thirty five thousand feet. Do you
recall seeing that airplane as well? Do you think that
this could have been that aircraft or more likely not?
Speaker 2: Oh, definitely not.
Speaker 4: I didn't even see or hear an aircraft like that
second commercial or didn't even see one. And like, yeah,
like I said, it did a complete ninety after it
shut off its lights, which you know, if it was
it's illegal. If it was, you know, something of our nation,
but it's not. And then then it's a sharp ninety
degrees and the maneuverability that it does, it's it's definitely
not something of ours.
Speaker 1: You know. One thing I just noticed for the first
time is as back this up a little bit. So
there's the one that you're tracking, and then it looks
like there's one coming in from above at the top left.
Speaker 4: Yep, up on the top left, there's another one that's
it's a completely different shape and everything. There's no lights
on it, there's no flashing blinking lights. It just looks
like an orb and it's it's going probably five times
faster than that big one, and it's way higher and we're.
Speaker 1: Are you able to make out the physical shape? I
know when when Chris had his twenty nineteen twenty twenty incidents,
he wasn't really law enforcement wasn't able to make out
the shape or structure of the craft. Are you able
to see the structure of the craft or you just
seing lights? Because when I look at this video, it
looks like you can see a bit of the shape.
Speaker 4: Yeah, on the big one especially, I could see it
a little bit better than what the camera's picking up,
and it kind of looked like like a if Batman's
old throwing star, if you will, it is what it looked.
Speaker 2: What it reminded me of. It just like a like
a U shape with the little point in the middle.
Speaker 1: Is do you have a way of kind of estimating
maybe how big you think that thing was, like the
size of like a Southwest jet or is it difficult
to tell like a.
Speaker 2: Smaller medium sized private airplane?
Speaker 3: Is okay?
Speaker 1: It was okay? Wow? So it's yeah, it's uh.
Speaker 2: It was big.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was bigger.
Speaker 2: Than my truck.
Speaker 1: Say that again.
Speaker 2: Sorry, it was definitely bigger than my truck. My patrol vehicle.
Speaker 1: Wow. And and if you were to guess how how
high this was off the ground as in terms of altitude,
what would you estimate that to be?
Speaker 2: Maybe two three thousand feet okay?
Speaker 1: Okay, so not not one hundred to two hundred like
Chris experienced. Okay, so so as much higher? Okay, Okay,
let's we're going to move on to the next one. Here.
This is the following day, December seventeenth, at six point
fifty four pm. And again, for privacy reasons, I didn't
want to put it zatactly where you were on the
map when you took these. We do have the exact
latitude longitude, but suffice it to say in the very
middle of that map is ORed and you are in that,
in that vicinity. Okay, So here's the next one. And
what are we looking at here? I lusia, Chris, do
we lose you there?
Speaker 3: No, I'm still here.
Speaker 1: Let's see jay Yan looks like he's looks like he's frozen. Okay,
so hopefully he is going to reconnect. I'm just going
to shoot him a message in say resume disconnected and
please reconnect. Okay. So yeah, so again you see, you
know there's one aircraft that's pretty high up. Both of
these are our airliners. But yeah, it just does not
look like that. It just yeah, it just doesn't look
like anything prosaic. You know, these you know, these videos
of course, are are difficult to make out because you know,
it's you're shooting in the dark. It's like shooting in
the you know, shooting the moon with your cell phone.
That rarely comes out well. But again, you can see
from the radar data, like even at this point, you know,
up at the top right, you see something moving and
you don't see any sort of traditional red and green
nave lights. But when you look at the radar, the
historical radar, and I'm starting this clip over again, you
know you only have those two very high aircraft. You
don't see anything up around up around five five thousand,
five thousand feet. So let's see here, so we still
do not have jay officer Stephen back. So Chris, let's
let's take a break from the videos. What you know,
what do when you encountered your drone? And of course
we have an officer a Stephen there on the right, uh,
frozen in time. Tell us about that experience. What exactly occurred?
Were you responding to a call. Were you out in
the middle of nowhere? What was the weather like? Was
was a quiet walk us through that whole experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So my my one big personal experience I had
was late December, I think I think of about the
twenty eighth of December. I was actually home and my
sheriff called me and said, hey, the little town that's
south of Valley County called Scotia. It's just southeast of
North Loop, which is in my county, about two and
a half miles he could. He called me and said, hey,
there's a lot of drone activity circling town. People are
counting upwards of eleven to fifteen of these things. So
if you could go hop in your truck and go
take a look at it, because he was at the
time currently busy with something else, and I said, yeah,
I'll hop in. So I got my work truck and
from where I was at it was about a thirteen
mile drive. I came to Highway twenty two Highway eleven
junction right outside of North Loop about three quarters of
a mile. And when I got to the Highway twenty
two Highway eleven junction, you know, I went to go look, look, left,
and I noticed the co op tower, which is about
three quarters of a mile north of my position, which
would be to my left, and I said, you know, well,
there's a there's a light to the east of the
co op light. That's not the co op light. So
I looked right and as I look right, noticed no
traff or anything coming. I looked back left, and by
the time I had looked back left, that thing was
right in front of my wind shoe and at the
co op tower. To my location is about three quarters
of a mile and it covered three quarters of a
mile in that two to three four seconds.
Speaker 1: With and when you looked at this thing and we
deputy is coming back on. Was was the light like
anything unique? Like? Was it was it brighter than like
a regular drone? Like? Was it like a welding arc? Like?
What was? Was there anything that did not seem right
about it that would lead you to lead you to
believe that it may not be from from you know,
anything here?
Speaker 3: Yeah. Actually, you know the comment that you made during
our interview about the welding arc that that pretty much
kind of put it exactly to what it looked like
to me. It just it wasn't blinding you know, because
it was one hundred and fifty hundred feet up the air.
It wasn't as far as a straight line distance. It
wasn't very far away. It literally probably was on the
other side of the highway. They just passed the railroad tracks,
which are fairly close in that area to the highway.
But it was, Yeah, it was like a welding arc light.
It just if you've ever welded. It was bright, but
it didn't blind me. I didn't need to cover my eyes.
I didn't need to throw on some cool looking glasses.
It was just a light. It was a reddish orange.
It didn't have a shape. I couldn't tell if it
had wings, if there were windows. It was just a light.
And the other thing was is just how fast it
went by me. I just I still to this day,
I'm flabbergasted by it. And and you know, when I
had turned to start heading south down Highway eleven towards Scotia,
it wasn't in sight very long. My line of sight
is another probably five or six miles before you start
hitting the chalk mines and the sand hills. But it
went out of you pretty quick. And even as I
had made it to that bridge that goes over the
North Loop River to go into Scotia. I did stop
right at the bridge because it kind of opens up
there to where there's no trees in front of me,
so if I jumped up on the hood or in
the back of my truck, I could get a little
bit better view. And it was it was gone, and
those other folks had pulled up next to me, and
I made the comment, please tell me you guys saw that,
and they saw it, and of course the sheriff saw it,
which where he lived at that time, he would have
either had it fly right over the top of him
or us to his beast.
Speaker 1: Okay, and I'm going to have you tell us what
the sheriff encountered in a bit. Deputy. Thanks thanks for
making it back on and getting your zoom connection going again.
So I'm curious as well. Did when you've seen these things?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: Chris Grooms just said that these these were often like
as bright as like looking at a welding arc. Have
you encountered anything like that?
Speaker 2: No, not particularly. I mean you can definitely pick.
Speaker 4: Them out when they're up in the sky that they're
they're a lot brighter, and then they flash and they
change colors. They almost look like stars, except they're way brighter.
And then if you pay attention to them, then they'll
start to move and you can you know, since you're
watching them, you can notice and do these things. But
never never anything bright and intense like like he experienced.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's watch the next uh next tape here?
Uh so, yeah, what are we looking at here? This is?
This is on to December seventeenth at let's see seven
oh two pm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just another just another drone just blinking and going.
I got I got a bunch of these. And the
crazy part of it is there's sometimes that I could
be videoing and I could see you or you could
see whoever's watching multiples of these things just in one
phone screen.
Speaker 2: You can capture three or four of them at a times.
Speaker 1: Sometimes well, and you know, and looking at this again,
when you look at the radar and ord would be
in the middle, you have one jet at it looks
like twenty nine thirty thousand feet, But this drone seems
to be staying in relatively the same position. It's not
it's not moving like you see on the on the radar.
Is that does that sound right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: That's about right.
Speaker 4: And a lot of the times, most of the times
it looks like these things are going in like a
grid line pattern, like they and they don't really hear
from it much, but when they do then it's just
erratic and not not a way the pilot would be
going or even an Unmann drone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that thing is really pretty, really pretty bright.
And and and again this is about five thousand feet
you would say, yeah, about five okay, yeah, and again
that single jetliner and you're looking at the exact radar
traffic that occurred at the time. There's there's one airplane
in the sky and it's and it's way way up.
So yeah, there you go. Okay, let's let's watch another here.
This this is the same same night, December seventeenth, and
a little bit later than seven. Now is this is
this the same one as the previous clip about ten
minutes earlier or did this come in?
Speaker 2: Nope?
Speaker 4: Every video that I took was of a different, different
place and or a different drone.
Speaker 1: And this one looks like it's kind of stationary.
Speaker 3: YEP.
Speaker 2: One of them in particular that I can remember.
Speaker 4: It just sat in one spot and it did not
move for like fifteen minutes, and then it would blink on,
fade in, fade out, and then it just wouldn't be
there anymore, whether it turned its lights off permanently or
it took off and I just didn't catch it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well the thing to note here, I mean,
there's one aircraft entering way off in the distance, but
the radar above ord is there are no airplanes. You know,
periods there are there are are, yeah, there are there
are none. Okay, you're gonna watch another one here. So
this is on December eighteenth, seven thirty pm, so relatively
the same time. Now I cranked up the exposure here
a little bit. Again, there's only one aircraft in the sky,
and that's I think thirty eight thousand. Is there anything
in particular that caught your eye about this particular one,
because it looks like there's more than one. I think
I see another one flashing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is one of those times where there was
multiple of them in one frame. Nothing really in particular,
especially nowadays, after these last long three weeks, it's almost
routine now for me to be seeing this many And
I just popped out the camera.
Speaker 2: Now this is a go to Now so's to get
them out.
Speaker 1: And do these make any noise, like do you hear
any jet engines or anything?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely nothing. And that blows my mind too, because
some of these things, regardless of how high they are,
even if they were up at commercial airline flight like altitude,
you can hear those suckers when they're going that fast,
and these things can just zoom across the sky and
you hear Nothing's.
Speaker 1: So there's absolutely no sound coming from these things. And
is an Ord Nebraska? And again, just knowing that the
population is only a couple of thousand, I take it,
and the question to you both, I take it that
there's pretty much nothing in terms of like light pollution
or ambient sound.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's ah. You get outside of Org
and it's when you're when it's night and you get
outside of Ord, it's dark. That's why we have a
lot of uh car collision with deer accidents because it's
so dark you just you don't see them until they're
right there.
Speaker 1: Okay, and sorry, and Deputy Steedhum you would agree with that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4: You don't even have to get but a half a
mile outside of town and it's dark, dark.
Speaker 1: And when you uh, you know, you talked about like
crop dusters and whatnot. So you'll you'll see those aircraft
operating during the day, but at night, do you see
any in the way of private aircraft?
Speaker 2: Nope, we don't normally.
Speaker 4: Before all this especially, we never had any like I
don't even recall a single time CD thing flying at night.
Speaker 1: Okay at all?
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely travel, say that again, Chris, I was just
going to say, let alone, even car travel after ten pm.
It dies about the only vehicles out or law enforcement
other than your select you coming through, passing to go
through to a different town or something like that.
Speaker 1: So Chris, walk us through the story that you told
about about what the sheriff at the time encountered. Walk
us through that what occurred. You know, we reached out
to the sheriff and we were hoping that that he
would come on the show, but he declined. So fill
us in on what what you were told when you
were a deputy for Valley County and what the sheriff encountered.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so a county just two counties over from us.
The sheriff over there I've been in contact with for
a couple of years now, whether or just you know,
to to shoot the ship or we talk law enforcement.
And he reached out to me about an incident they
had and this was back years ago. He didn't just
come to me with this. This has been a while.
So back in twenty nineteen, him and two of his
deputies were out and about on control and they got
called to something in the sky and they went to
go intervene and investigate it, and they come upon it.
It was up in the sky, not very high, you know,
that one hundred feet area elevation, and they started to
pursue it, and like the other ones that we encountered,
it just paralleled the gravel roads. It wouldn't go off
in any direction. It wanted them to know that they
were seen by this thing, but yet it almost wanted
them to continue to pursue it. So as they continue
to pursue it down the gravel roads, it actually went
back towards the highway, and as they got towards the highway,
it began to move down and parallel the highway. So
they got on the highway continued to pursue it. The
sheriff made the comment to me and his suberban, which
was his patrol truck at that time that he was
almost you know, maxed out or was maxed out around
one hundred and twenty miles an hour, and it wasn't
they weren't able to catch it. But yet at the
same time, it wasn't pulling away from them, but it
wasn't he they couldn't catch it, if that makes any sense.
It was staying far enough away from them, but at
the same time it still wanted. It was like toying
with them. And eventually it came to kind of a
stop and moved off into like a creek bed or
over a little river that was right there to the
north of their location, and they went to go spotlight
it with their search lights. And as they went to
go spotlight it with their searchlights, it not being very
high in the sky, shined a huge light back down
on them. And the way that the sheriff described to
me is if it was almost daylight in all directions
left right, in every direction that he looked, it seemed
like it was daylight. And he said it covered anywhere
from one hundred and fifty to three hundred yards in
all directions, and he said it made no noise. That
was the other thing that freaked him out was that
it made no noise, and those other two deputies were
with him and they also were a part of it,
and it just left, it took off. They couldn't find
it no more they could track it. I don't know
how much longer after that incident happened that the sheriff
called down to the airport in Grand Island, which is
basically our bigger regional airport that has flights out of
you know, Phoenix, mece Arizona, Las Vegas, that type stuff,
So they have some big flights that come out of there.
But it was that night that he called down there,
and I assume it was pretty much right after he
had his encounter, just by the way he was talking
to me, and when he called down to the airport
and asked him, hey, are you guys tracking anything on
your radar? You know, they made the comment to him, no,
we don't. We don't see what's on where you're at.
We don't see anything like that on our radar. And
that airport, I think that anything below three thousand feet
they don't see. So could they have just not been
seeing it because it was so low, I don't know,
but he he was a little. I don't want to
say he was shaken up by it, but you could
tell in his voice that he had he had seen
something that really shocked him.
Speaker 1: Did did he ever say if he did he have
any theories as to what he saw? Does does he
think it did he think it was from a foreign adversary,
or did he share any thoughts.
Speaker 3: We never really talked about that. He's a he's a
busy guy. The dude's running running a county. He runs
his own business. He stays busy. So we didn't have
a huge conversation about what we thought or what he
thought it could have been, other than you know, dude,
what do we do about this? We we need somebody
to get out here and figure this out. And that's
pretty much what we do talk about. Is when is
somebody out here that knows what this stuff is, or
that somebody has an idea of what it is, come
out here and talk to us out here in Nebraska.
Because this stuff has been going on way before New Jersey,
and I feel for those I feel for those folks
in New Jersey, the mayors and stuff. I wish I
could get in contact with him to talk to him,
let him know you know, we dealt with it back
in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, and where where they're at
right now? We're getting the run.
Speaker 1: Around, understood, Okay, Deputy Steedham, Let's play one of your
other clips here. This is from let's see December eighteenth
at forty nine pm. Now again, it looks like I'm
seeing two things here, one at the bottom right. And yeah,
so I walk us through again what we're seeing, and
I would I would point out in the radar there
is absolutely no air traffic overhead, zero zilch.
Speaker 4: And it actually ended up turning its turning its direction
coming back at me again after in this video, after
I ended the video, and it was it was just strange.
It kind of stayed and hovered right above me and
then just disappeared.
Speaker 1: Is at the bottom of the screen I see another
sort of point of light. Is that a star? Or
is that another drone?
Speaker 4: That I think that was actually one of them that
was it looks just like a star, like a lot
of them do. But that one we're in particular return
from that colored is now too, more of an orange
ish and like off color.
Speaker 2: And then it would just flicker like that. But it
was pretty stationary, so I froze the video.
Speaker 1: Here. If you look at the bottom of the video,
you see you see the point of light that was
flashing before. And I'm actually going to back this up
because you're going to see another one flying in just
to the right. It's blinking on and off sort of
at the top right. How often do you see this
sort of thing where they'll just one will show up,
and then a few minutes later others will appear.
Speaker 4: All the time, it could be completely dead out and
then all of a sudden you see one, and then
when you see one, it's like when you at least
for me anyway, when I start recording these things, there's
just I'm just surrounded. Anywhere I look, I can find
one at any given time.
Speaker 1: And again pointing out the historical radar data, which the
ADSB data, you do see one aircraft now coming in.
I think it's flight level two nine zero. But for
the first half of this video there was absolutely nothing
on screen. And are these things, you know? I can't
really tell the elevation of the camera are you. Are
you looking at like a forty five degree angle or
almost straight up? It looks like there's the horizon line there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm about it.
Speaker 4: It's about a forty five degree angle went on the
i'd say the northeast of town North Loot, Nebraska.
Speaker 1: But and and again it's like, you know, you see
one aircraft in the sky, and and that's at a
very high altitude, and it wasn't there in the beginning,
and you have multiple targets here flashing flashing on and off.
It's uh, yeah, I mean, it's just it makes no
sense that it would be it would be an an aircraft.
And again with this one, there were no there were
no engine sounds or anything of that nature.
Speaker 2: No nothing.
Speaker 4: And just as the other ones, like the select you
times that there is actually a an actual commercial aircraft
or something up in the sky. I don't even recall
a single time actually seeing those from where I was.
Speaker 1: Now, I just caught this a second ago. Is this
what this larger point of light? Is this another one
of them? Or is this a street light or the
moon or something else?
Speaker 4: That one Actually it's a yard light out in the
out by actually a farmer's house.
Speaker 2: So okay, it just constantly blinks.
Speaker 1: Oh got it? Okay, all right, so that's.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you'd ignore that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, great, okay, So there's so that these were
all on December eighteenth, around eight pm. And then here's
another one this what about ten minutes later? And again
I'm going to pause the video. Here you've got one
aircraft at I think it's a flight level three four zero,
so thirty four thousand feet off in the distance. Any
chance that this could be that jet? Or when you're
looking at it, it's obvious this is not. Well, I
see two of them, so again more than one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's multiples.
Speaker 4: I never and I wouldn't even get my camera out
if I even had the slightest inkling that it was
one of our planes.
Speaker 1: And it's obvious to you, as a trained observer, what
is what is an aircraft a conventional aircraft or drone
and what is not? And in your opinion, these are
neither yep, okay, neither okay, And I'm going to back
this up a little bit. You know, so there, you
know that one's pretty bright there, that one's obviously obviously moving,
and then it looks like there was just one to
the left. I mean there there are It's insane how
many how many of these things you know there are?
It's it's it's it's crazy. Are you in the Sheriff's department.
Are you guys receiving nine to one one calls at all?
Regarding these drones? They look pretty high up, so I
don't know why.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we haven't recently, but probably about two months ago now,
we had a call out there was one that was
just hovering out in someone's backyard, just a local farmer's backyard,
and I actually ended up ended up chasing it for
miles down like minimum maintenance roads, and I never never
could get close enough to actually like see something to
be able to describe it like in shape or anything.
You could just see the light and it would just
go away, Like Chris said, it would go straight with
the road. At one point, when I first got into
the minim maintenance road, I didn't even really know where
I was because I was just kind of in the
heat of the moment, but it almost led me onto
the road and I just kept following it and then
it just disappeared turned its lights off.
Speaker 1: And how so this particular incident, how low do you
think it was to the ground.
Speaker 2: At that one where I seen it.
Speaker 4: I believe it was lower when it was called in
it was actually one of our dispatchers that.
Speaker 2: Called me and told me about it.
Speaker 4: It was lower than but when I seen it, it
was probably stixty eighty feet off the ground and it
stayed between there and about one hundred feet until it
disappeared over the horizon.
Speaker 1: How large would you estimate this object to be?
Speaker 2: Probably just a little smaller than an sev.
Speaker 1: Okay, and so this thing is a little bit smaller
than an suv. Did it make any noise?
Speaker 2: Nope? Nothing?
Speaker 1: Wow? Crazy. We have a question here, a question with
all the videos pictures online, do you see any correlation
to what you both have personally witnessed and documented? Is
there a correlation to what you're hearing from is going
on in New Jersey and elsewhere? And videos and photos?
Do these look similar to what you guys have witnessed yourself?
Speaker 2: I believe so. Some of the things that I've seen.
Speaker 4: One of the videos that I've seen online up there
almost reminded me of what I was trying to describe
on that first video there sin that we looked at
with the big one, they went right over top me
after that ninety degree They looked almost identical to that,
And that's what reminded me of the Batman's Throwing Star.
Speaker 1: How about you, Chris.
Speaker 3: As far as some of the videos I've seen, what
I was told through witness testimony or by other deputies,
they are similar based off the color of the of
the lights or you know what you're hearing about. They
just go dark, they shut their lights off. That was
That was pretty That happened a lot out here in
twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, where they would just disappear, they
shut their lights off. And I don't know if I
could bring this up real quick about one of the
deputies that I gave you his contact info. I know
you reached out to him. I'm not going to say
his name or whatever. Were you know where he worked.
He doesn't want me to, but I know you did
talk to him about this as well. Correct, while he
was on duty, he got called to one of these
situations and when he got on scene, he noticed them
up in the sky and he counted about six to
eight of these things in a single formation. It wasn't starlink.
I know starlink came out in twenty nineteen, I think,
but these weren't starlink. They were low, they were sixty
feet up. They were a bright light, and they were
all in a single formation. And as they continued to
move in a single formation away from him, he pursued
alongside them, and as they got to a point in
the sky, every single one of the lights shut off
in that same spot. So as one light shut off,
the next one would hit that same spot it would
shut off, and all of them just disappeared in that
same exact spot. And they were sixty seventy feet in
the air, and they were bright lights.
Speaker 1: It wasn't starlink and no reported sad out right correct, Yeah, amazing.
Another question here from Terrence Will's question for you both,
was the light self contained or shining off of trees
or structures? Thank you for your service. So in other words,
you know, like if if you know, if I had
a lantern and I'm walking around in my backyard, obviously
the lantern is going to be bright, and it's going
to illuminate the objects around it. And when you when
the two of you have had close encounters with these
things at a low altitude, did they seem to illuminate
the environment? Chris, We'll start with you.
Speaker 3: Well, the one that I the one that I saw
it didn't illuminate you know, me, It didn't illuminate my vehicle.
Could it have been illuminating the ground, possibly, But it
was so fast that from what I could tell, there
was no directional, formal light coming off of it. It
was just a big bright light in the sky. And
like I said, it's mind boggling.
Speaker 1: Deputy Stephen, you were shaking your head, yes as well.
Speaker 4: Yep, same thing. It just kind of was there, if
that makes any sense. It wasn't shining anywhere anywhere any
one direction. It was bright, but to me, it just
wasn't bright enough to actually like shine on anything and
illuminate anything. It doesn't make any sense. It's just for
how bright it was that it wasn't lighting up other
parts of ground or whatever.
Speaker 3: But it didn't.
Speaker 1: Another question from a Carl pure Marini. Sorry but I'm
bad about last names. Were there any smells involved, like
ozone or kind of like what you would smell with
electrical sparks or arcing, any anything of that nature, anything
odd that you either of you smelled.
Speaker 3: No, not not with anything that I either investigated or
witnessed myself.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's let's roll another tape. This is
from December twenty first at six o eight p m.
And we're going to roll this one. Now this is
what Yeah, so this is right at sunset. Then if
you can see it there, yeah, okay, there we go.
Now we're seeing I think on the left there, well yeah, sorry,
at the bottom you've seen the blinking, blinking points of
light that one I think may be a star. Deputy
seed them. Does this ring a bell? I know you've
sent so many of these videos, it's got to be
hard to keep track.
Speaker 2: I'm actually having trouble seeing the video.
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, it's a little bit difficult to see.
But in a couple of places, you know, you do
see lights flashing, and again I would point out on
the historical radar data there is you know, there's there's
nothing there. Let me play another one here. I think
this one's a little a little easier to see.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, this one is actually off of my security
camera that I just put on last night.
Speaker 2: I believe I put it out front of my house. Okay,
so this is actually from.
Speaker 4: My residence here. It caught me in the middle of
the night. I had an emotion alert and my camera
is like the track too, So they'll go to whatever
set them off, and they'll they'll follow them, and it
actually went to this spot and then it just kept
recording these lights, drones, whatever you want to call them,
and they would actually go in and out like the
brighter dimmer, brighter dimmer. They would disappear, they would come
back on in completely different spots. Multiples of them would
show up on there. This this one is just mind boggle.
Speaker 1: I think when I look at this, I think this
may have been one of your cell phones, because it
does look like the picture is moving, but one of
the one of the next ones, or the one I
think after the next one i'll show, is definitely your
from your security camera. So let's watch this is again
on December twenty first, nine to twelve pm. Well, this
may have been the same one. I'm so I apologize. Yeah,
this is this is the same one. Let's watch what
I think is from your security camera. Okay, yeah, yep,
there I go. Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is just mind boggling you seeing then the
multiples of them. And I am I am albeit speeding
this up a little bit. You can see the time
down there on the bottom left. I'm speeding it up
a little bit. So you can see how much they move.
But they do this a little bit slower, but when
you speed it up, it just puts it all into
perspective what's actually.
Speaker 5: Going going on.
Speaker 2: And it's, like I said, to mind boggling.
Speaker 1: That is truly, that is definitely definitely mind boggling. That's
I mean this this is not sort of multiple aircraft
or falling stars or anything like that. And and this
is yet another one that you sent. There's no radar,
no aircraft up in the sky. This is yet another
I think another recording, So the same sort of the
same sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Correct, yep, same exact thing, just doing different stuff. It's wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh yeah, it's I mean, this is this
is definitely definitely compelling. And and again I would point
out that and would you both agree that these videos
don't do it justice, Like what you see to your
eye is significantly more impressive or however you want to
put it, compared to what the camera picks up. Correct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean as far as video footage from me personally,
I never had anybody what I was seeing. Personally, you
either could tell that there was something there of a
shape where you couldn't because of just how bright these
these lights were, the amount of well how much how
much there was with like how many were showing up
and they all either resembled the same thing or there
was just the big ones and then the smaller ones.
The no noise. That was the other thing that was
always crazy to me is if these things are these big,
why is there no noise? Why is there no prop wash?
Why is there no turbine engines? Why is there no
hum from electrical or battery operated Because they were low
enough that you should have heard something, and a lot
of the times they That was one of the first
things that was brought to me by witnesses or by
other deputies that saw personally as well, is there's no noise.
There's no you know, sound from a quad coppter would
make at sixty feet you would clearly hear that, especially
in this area where there is no noise pollution from traffic,
there's no horns honking. The only thing you're hearing around
here at night outside of the towns are coyotes and yourself.
That's literally what it comes down to.
Speaker 1: So to say, yeah, you're about to add to that.
Speaker 2: No, I would just agreeing it's just dead quiet.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, So it's not like you're in a city
where there's a lot of noise and it may be
difficult to make the sound out of something. You would
definitely hear this.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4: Like I said, you can hear the commercial aircraft when
they're up up at their rings on any given day,
even during the day when it's not as silent, So
you can't hear anything out of these wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, another question, and again, folks, super chats are open.
We always appreciate a donations for the show. And Natasha Falder,
this is for Chris. What did the contrail look like? Puffy,
smoky or spray? Give us a little bit more detail
on the contrail that you witnessed with that vehicle that
was only a few one hundred feet or so or
less from you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just it looked like your typical contrails that
you would see from a jet flying at thirty thousand feet,
you know, moving at high speeds. Just it had that
look to it. It almost looked like it could have
been a cloud, but it wasn't. It was a straight
line of contrails coming off this thing. And I could
I noticed them clear back almost to where the co
op light was as it went by me. But then,
of course, once I hit that bridge and noticed that
it was gone. You know, when I turned to look
back behind me to see if those contrails were still there,
they had dissipated. They'd went away. So I just I
don't know, it's crazy, weird to me, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And weird indeed. Okay, let's play another tape here. This
is from December twenty second at A three forty nine
a M. Let's see here. This looks like your security camera.
Speaker 2: Again if there's another one my security camera cut.
Speaker 1: And is the motion activating the camera or is it
recording the constant?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the motion activates it, and then it sends me
an alert on my phone.
Speaker 1: And it looks like it is. Well, yeah, you can
see this thing blinking in in the middle of the screen.
And I don't think I super imposed the radar data,
but there was. Actually it looks like somebody's out there, hope.
Speaker 4: Yes, I actually I actually went outside after this one.
I called called somebody up and had them come out
and clarify with me, and we looked at it together
and blew both of our minds because this is this
is the last one of the videos that I think
I took of this.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: So then we went out and the same thing, and
he witnessed the same exact thing as well.
Speaker 2: He even took recordings on his phone.
Speaker 1: And again, No, this thing looks like it's pretty stationary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it.
Speaker 4: It stayed there for a while, then it goes on
and off, and then we actually ended up seeing it.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I don't think I got it on video, but there
was one that was actually it was like burnt orange color.
It was order to write this one, and that one
kind of blew my mind as well. I wish I
would have got that one on video.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, crazy. So are you hearing this officer a
studium from your county residents that they are seeing these
as well?
Speaker 4: I actually don't really hear much from the people who
around here. I don't know if they're just used to
it by now or what the deal is, But we
don't hear too much about it. Actually, unless he talked
talk to them and bring the conversation to them, then maybe.
Speaker 1: But now, when you say used to it, used to
it as in when this picked up three weeks ago,
or used to it as then this has been going
on there since twenty nineteen, twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, years ago.
Speaker 4: It hasn't been prevalent around here for the whole four
years or whatever, but it's definitely it's been off and on,
and I think people are honestly just used to it.
They don't report much and it's just another thing another
day in ors.
Speaker 1: This is crazy. So this didn't just like pop up
three weeks ago. You're saying that this has been going
ongoing since twenty nineteen, twenty twenty in Order Nebraska.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 4: Three weeks ago is when I started ramping up and
things really started getting hectic.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's been going on a while.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, it's okay from Arcos, I'm not can even
try your last name because I'll butcher that. Please thank
these officers for their courage from France. So fans of
what you guys are doing all the way from France.
So thank you very much. Jason Ward, thank you so
so much. Officers. Yeah, you know again, it's like people,
people are really really appreciative for you know, for you know,
for you know, for your service. Let's see here going
through more more questions. Let's see Nick, Nick m thank
you very much for the super chat. Or first super
Chat donation. During the show thank you for that. A
couple of New Jersey said, a goofy looking helicopter making
crazy moves followed her husband. As soon as it spotted him,
he ran inside his home and turned around. This was
last year. Do you see a pattern? Have you guys
ever heard of that, like things that maybe look like
military helicopters that just maybe don't quite make sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when I when I was a firefighter in Courtland
actually this would have been around twenty nineteen time, a
little after I actually league. We just said a couple
of times going down Highway seventy seven where there's just
an orb, would it look like and they would follow
the ways down there, same same kind of thing. So
I've definitely seen them do it. It's almost like they're
their toy with you a little bit, but they know
you're there and they just want to get like get
a reaction or something.
Speaker 2: It's strange, but.
Speaker 1: Did this appear as a helicopter or an orb of light?
Speaker 2: It was just like an orb, but it did. It
would follow you the same.
Speaker 1: Way, Okay, got it? Okay, But you haven't seen helicopters
that seem odd or anything, like that.
Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely not around here. What helicopters we do see
are usually like your National Guard guys up here on
their weekend training in a Chinook or a black Hawk,
you know, traversing the rivers and stuff like that, or
actually coming to our airport maybe doing some type of
training at the airport with their helicopters. The other helicopters
that we do see around here occasionally are meta bad
guys are coming from the hospitals and Carneie or Lincoln
or Grand Island come to pick somebody up and as
far as them, they land at the hospital, they pick
up the patient, and they fly right where they need
to go, or they'll fly to the actual airport land
at the airport, ambulance transports, the patient gets on the helicopter,
and then they leave right back to where they came from.
They don't ever just mess around our towns or fly
over you know, the houses or anything like that. They
have their mission, they go do their mission, and then
they leave.
Speaker 1: Any chance that what either of you have witnessed were
perhaps these helicopters, I guess.
Speaker 4: There's always a chance, but I don't think so. Not
in my opinion, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Not okay, okay, so I just please sorry, no, no,
go ahead.
Speaker 3: I'm just going to say a lot of these other
deputies and stuff that I have associated with for many
many years now, they're both well, i should say, a
lot of them are still in the military or also
we're in the military before they became deputies. And they
know what helicopters are. They know what you know, cessnas are,
what se one, thirty five c seventeens, They know what
these are. And they were not seeing that. They were
not seeing planes, they were not seeing helicopters. They were
seeing things that could they have been the drones. Yes,
but when you're seeing fifty in Valley County and you're
seeing twenty five in Lincoln County, and you're seeing you know,
fifteen in Garfield County, all at the same time or
within just a few minutes of each other, you're not
seeing your hobbyist drones out. You're just not. It's a
coordinated event. They are doing something, whether it's you know,
a mission from our military or a foreign adversary or
whatever else it could be. They clearly have a mission
and it's coordinated, it's very well funded. It's not a
helicopter out flying around. It's not a cessna as far
as you know, coming from an airport. It's not a
crop dester this stuff. I just I want people to
know that out here in Org and in Valley County,
our population is smaller than our cattle population. We have
more cows in Valley County than we do people. And
for the activity that we were seeing in twenty nineteen
and twenty twenty, it's so crazy. I don't know what
the point of it was. If it was an adversary,
how and where were they going to at night to refuel,
re energize. Where were they hiding. It's central Nebraska. We're
talking thousands of miles in any direction to a body
of water where you can put an aircraft carrier, a
cargo ship. These things were not flying into a semi
truck at three point thirty in the morning on a highway.
They weren't flying out of these semi trucks. We attempted
to pull these vehicles over. That could have been, you know,
a hud for these things.
Speaker 2: We just.
Speaker 3: We did our due diligence out here to figure out
what it was, and it we just never could. They
were very, very technologically advanced whether it was a drone
or something else, it didn't matter. They were very, very
very advanced. And to be out in or Nebraska, Valley County, Nebraska,
you know over over in the surrounding counties, we don't.
We don't have nuclear facilities right here. We do have
ethanol plants that that you know, send out feed and
make you know, ethanol for our vehicles. We do have
that stuff. But as far as a mission that a
military would be running that is our own or a
foreign government, I don't understand what their reconnaissance purposes would
be other than our infrastructure, our our train lines, where
our trains come from. Because we do we do feed
a lot of the country's animals. We do send out
a lot of feed to other places. But I just
I don't understand what they were doing, especially when you
start getting phone calls from your your ranchers about these
things harassing their livestock, harassing their horses, these things hovering
over schools here in or Nebraska that I believe wasn't
actually in one of the reports I sent you from
the local office here here in order about she witnessed
this larger looking drone and possibly up to three more
hovering over our schools. What's that about if you're a
foreign adversary and you want to hear the government say, oh,
these aren't a threat. If it's our foreign adversary, what
are they flying over our public schools? What's the point
of that. I just wanted to throw that out there
as well.
Speaker 1: That's that's absolutely horrifying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just.
Speaker 4: To add on it too, Like these things, if they
were actually drones or something of our military or origin
or something like that, like drones have to land, they
have to land somewhere and not once. Out of the
scores of these things that I've seen, have I ever
seen one land or take off? They're just there and
then they're gone, just quick.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see another question here, Lee Asbury glad to
see more coming forward on this bizarre story. Terrence willis
a question for all three that they seem to be
looking for something or just wanting to be seen, and
thank you all for having the guts to take to
look for the truth.
Speaker 2: I have no idea what they're doing.
Speaker 4: It's like they want to be seen, but they don't.
At the same time, like they have their lights on
for a reason with them having the ability to turn
their lights off at will, and then the fact that
they don't could mean one thing. But then at the
same time, they stay away from you far enough you
can't make out the shape and everything of them. So
it's it's just confusing, like we know nothing, like we
definitely need help understanding what they're doing here understood.
Speaker 1: I actually want to issue a correction. The super chat
was actually from a Phantomstpanto. Thank you, thank you so
much for that. Here's another good question from Cosmic Serpent.
Any cattle mutilations reported in your county?
Speaker 3: Not during not during that time, not twenty nineteen, twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: No, No, I think I've heard about I think I've
heard about something that was like in the fifties or
something maybe that I've just heard in this story.
Speaker 3: But recently not not in my time that I have
been here in Valley County have I seen a cattle
mutilation or one been reported to me. We we do
deal with, you know, ranchers calling in their cattle dead.
There may be some type of a fairy played to it,
like another angry rancher shot another guy's now or something
like that. Like that does happen, But as far as
a cattle mutilation going on when this was going on, No,
I will tell you that back. I believe in the
early two thousands, my mother in law actually did a
report in a county south of here on an actual,
very bizarre cattle mutilation. But that was in the early
two thousands.
Speaker 1: I will be okay, okay. One the question for Matt
was that plasma bean shaped orbs stuck in the tree
branch every debunk. I'm not sure what we're talking about here,
Paul Ross. Are there any significant cave systems in Nebraska
in your area?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I was gonna say Happy Jacks, but it wouldn't be
to the extent where these things could go high and
fly in because Happy Jacks is people go there every
day to climb to the top take a twenty minute
break from where. Yeah, they definitely wouldn't have been hiding
in them if that's what he was maybe referring to.
Speaker 1: Got it. Okay, Let's see another super chat from a
phantomas fanto, do you need funding for better equipment? I
think that question was for me. Yeah. Actually, for since
this show has been running, any donations we get or subscriptions,
they go right back into purchasing equipment because it is
it is certainly not cheap. Question about from this gentleman
who just gave us another super chat, what about a
drone with large spotlights? There has to be some Oh,
I'm not sure what he means. He's basically saying you
could buy some spotlights to get donated. I'm I'm not
sure what that means. Let's watch. Let's watch another video.
This is from December twenty second at six eight a m.
So again, there's no air traffic on the radar, and
let's see what are we looking at here? If you
can see that, Deputy, is that.
Speaker 4: The videos are throwing up really small on my screen.
I'm that's hard to see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's it's hard to see. Hard to
see here. I'm gonna kind of I think this could
be from your security camera, but again.
Speaker 2: Just no.
Speaker 4: This is actually this is from when I was still outside.
So this was the last one that I had.
Speaker 2: This was one.
Speaker 4: It was it just went from like really low lower altitude,
like a lot lower than normal. I bet this one
was probably around six thousands. So for these little ones
that are usually up way higher, this one is actually
a little bit closer it looks a lot closer in person,
and it went straight up and it like goes towards
the moon and then it does a complete complete ninety
degree angle and it comes back right over top. It
is just going at speeds that are just insane. Again,
no sound.
Speaker 1: And this so this would have occurred last night, Yes,
this is this morning, this morning? Okay, oh yeah, right,
uh yeah, six oh eight am. That's uh yeah. It
looks like there's something else blinking there. Oh yeah, right
below it, there's another one. Yeah, yeah, it's and it
blinks off and then comes back on.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So so, officer or Deputy Steedum, in your personal opinion,
what do you think these things are?
Speaker 4: I don't know if I can put a nail on it,
but they're definitely not of our origin.
Speaker 2: I can say that much.
Speaker 4: We don't have the technology I don't think to be
able to do half the maneuvers. And that's stuff that
they do, and if it would be us, we're doing
a bunch of illegal stuff. We're turning the lights off
and we're flying at night, and I just don't I
don't think it's from here.
Speaker 1: And are there any nuclear facilities in your county either?
Power LANs or ICBMs any of that. No, none of that. Wow, Chris,
What is your opinion on do you think these things
are terrestrial or man made? What is your sort of
take on it?
Speaker 3: Your personal take? I, like Jade said, I can't put
a nail on it. I can only speculate. I can
tell you that whatever these things are, they're very advanced.
The technology is advanced. How how do you cover in
like the one that I saw? How do you cover
three quarters of a mile at one hundred hundred and
fifty feet you know, in two to three seconds without
not having noise there? I mean, could it have been
flying so fast that it broke the sound barrier and
I should have heard us on it boom? I think so,
I believe so. How did it have contrails behind it?
But yet it's not making noise and causing friction in
the air and heating up itself from how fast it
was going at that hundred feet? The technology is great.
And then when you think about what that sheriff saw
in the county two counties over, even if that thing
was a drone, why was it not making noise when
it was according to him, the size of his suburban
The technology is phenomenal. And if it is the United States,
hell yeah, like you're not going to hear me complain.
I wanted to be able to be able to defend
ourselves and fight off our enemies. I commend our military
and our scientists and our you know are elected and
government officials that are giving us this technology. If it
is US, I'm not putting them down in any way
when it comes to that, I appreciate that. I want
my children to grow up and be safe. If it
is our adversary, we're in trouble because this was over
Nebraska in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty. I'm being told
by multiple people within government, within the military, it's not us, No,
that we're not doing that. What was its purpose? If
it is some advanced technology that's not from Perth, what
were they doing in Nebraska in twenty eighteen twenty twenty,
flying over our little towns, harassing livestock, given law enforcement
a problem, wasting our taxpayer dollars? You know, it just
it made no sense. And as far as if it
is from somewhere else and they are showing themselves, you know,
maybe the people they don't want to talk to are
our government officials. They need to come and talk to
guys like you who are going to have an open
mind and want to talk to them. You know, because
look here we are. We're in twenty twenty four and
I've been you can ask, you can, Jade. I've been
talking about this and letting people know and everything since
this has happened. He can tell you the conversations that
we've had over the years about this stuff. I've been
doing so much to try and get people involved that
are that are in our military. I've reached out to
officials that were in government, that are in government. I've
reached out to our senators and congressmen here in Nebraska,
and they've done I've not received an email back from anybody.
And then I can and yet I can call, I
can email you, and within a few days you're getting
in contact with me and hearing what I can tell
you and then asking me for the proof of stuff.
The nine on one calls, witness testimony, additional law enforcement officers,
contact information. You doing your due diligence, and here we
are two months after I reach out to you, and
we got we got guys like Chris Plomo interested in
this stuff, you know, but our government gives us the
run around. And we have some pretty significant journalists out
there that are interested, that aren't afraid to bring this
stuff up, that aren't going to tell us what we
don't know. You know, we'll look into it. They're they're
gonna sit us down, They're gonna want to hear what
we have to say. And then they're trying to get
our government officials to come out and be a little
bit more honest with us. Because, like I said, if
it's our technology, awesome. I am a patriot, I love
my country. I am a very big fan of my military.
I still have brothers in arms, brothers and sisters in
arms that are still in the military. You know, I
appreciate a lot of these congressmen and women that are
bringing the forefront to whatever this is. I want them
to be involved because not only do we pay them,
but they clearly kept, they clearly care, and they want
to get to the bottom of it. So if it's us,
just be honest. You know, the American people we can
handle the truth. We can on many many levels. We've
seen multiple world wars, We've seen the global war on terrorism,
We've seen terrible stuff that has happened in our country
from the beginning to now. We're Americans. We can handle it.
Speaker 1: I completely completely agree. I want to thank Kelly Kolsnik
for the super chat these. Do you guys think that
these drones represent a leap frog in technology? Sounds like
you both do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, okay.
Speaker 1: From super chat from thanks again for the super chats.
Help us by some better equipment here from PLBM Music, Hi, Matt,
thank you for reporting on the issue. You're very very welcome.
As I always say, this is a team effort. Another
super chat from Phantomus. He's asking if the officers could
use equipment FLEAR cameras, etc. To properly see these things.
Are you guys equipped with any kind of Flear or
night vision equipment?
Speaker 4: Typically no, not not within our department when we're on
a special response team that we had previously. Previous to
this year, we had some of that stuff available to us,
but not right now.
Speaker 2: You would definitely, it would definitely be helpful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure. Actually I would love to have something
like something like that myself. Deputy Deputy Steedham, do you think,
and this question is not coming from a partisan point
of view, if if there were a Republican administration, I
would be saying the exact same thing. Do you think
that the White House is lying to the public.
Speaker 2: Well, whether it's lying or not, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I would go that far, just
because I don't know. I don't want to stir things up.
But they're definitely I think they know more than they're
leading on. And even if they don't like it's just
tell us because we have to know right now.
Speaker 2: If they're trying not to cause panic, they're going to
end up doing it.
Speaker 4: And having a little bit of panic right now would
be a lot better than the alternative. If these things
come out, you know, in masses, and then something happens,
we're going to be a lot worse off than than
we would be if we were told, you know, what
Exit Actlee is going on, or what they know you
And for that point.
Speaker 1: Chris, do you think that this jeopardizes Do you think
that this jeopardizes our security? Do you think that this jeopardized?
Should should should people at home be concerned about what
is going on? Is this a possible threat to public safety?
Speaker 3: It very much could be. Just bringing up from our
past conversations about you know what if one of these
larger drone things, whatever you want to call them, strap
fifteen pounds a C four on them and fly them
into an ethanol plant around here, You're going to have
some significant damage. You're going to have loss of life,
You're going to have your soil ruined where you know
farmers are planting their crops, things like that. You're gonna
have a significant amount of damage. And we know that
drones are capable of this. We see it in Ukraine.
We're we're seeing it in you know, the Israel Hamas stuff.
They're they're flying precision little drones into buildings and flying
them through windows and blowing buildings up. So yeah, it
could be it could very much become a threat if
whatever this is wanted to and if it's our if
it's our government that's doing it, it's our military, it's
a private contractor just tell us. I mean, if anything,
the populace out here in Nebraska, if we know that
this is our military operating here, this is a pretty
patriotic area, this area loves its country, We're probably going
to be like, oh yeah, it's military out here, operate Okay.
You know, there's gonna be a lot of people that
will leave it alone and stop bringing it up. But
when you tell people out here, we don't know, there's
nothing that we can do, don't worry about it. People
around here, Yeah, they're gonna tell you, Na, we're gonna
keep looking into this. You know, we pay your tax
or we pay your salary with our taxes. You're gonna
you're gonna do something, you know, or we're gonna just
keep bothering you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to add on that, if if at another one
of the things too, with the people around here and
a lot of rural places even in other states, it's
like if they don't tell us, especially as farmers and
stuff like that that have a lot of a lot
of steak, like they're gonna take matters into their own
hands and then it's just gonna it's gonna go a
wall from there.
Speaker 1: So I'm just understood. H Okay. So let's see, Deputy
Deputy Stedham. We know you have to go on duty,
so we're not going to keep you. And and Chris, So,
as I mentioned before, when we when we interviewed you,
I actually conducted the interview. I think it was like
a month uh prior to when we aired it, and
at that time you were chief of police. You have
since left. Can you tell us why you are no
longer a chief of police?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I resigned from my position back in December
eighth of this year with the police Department because I'm
I'm going to be taking a contract job, a private
contract job overseas, and I just wanted to better my
family a little bit better than what I have now
with you know, a little bit better pay. And I
just I've been wanting to do that job for quite
a while now, and now that that is another opportunity
for me, I just decided to take it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, congratulations, congratulations to you both. Well, gentlemen, thank
you very much for coming on. I look forward to
hearing more. And yeah, thank you for what you're doing
for your country. And yeah, my hat is off to
both of you. You both are the epitome of putting
country before self and serving as law enforcement officers in
this great United States of America. So thank you, thank
you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2: Thanks Matt, thanks for having us.
Speaker 1: Okay, great now, thank you, Okay, awesome. Well that was yeah,
that was really great. So I do I do want
to point out Mark von Rennan Camp, who is a
friend of the show. You know, he was noting that
in some cases these things, some of these videos can
be mistaken for either you know, Starland or something like that,
and uh, you know, so not every video is going
to be a hit. Obviously. What you have to rely
on in many cases, especially in this case, because this
is coming from law enforcement, is you know, what they
are witnessing with their you know, with their eyes. And and
again it's just the fact that we we have trained
officers that are that are viewing this stuff now, the
current stuff that is being seen over Nebraska that Deputy
Steedam has been messaging to us over the past few nights.
You know, as he noted, many of these things are
only about five thousand feet off the ground. They're much
lower than the air traffic overhead. Certainly, I would think
that they would look completely different than a satellite going over,
which is obviously going to be in excess in altitude
to what you would see with drones or commercial commercial aircraft.
But you know, really the thing to keep in mind
here is that this has been going on for quite
some time. And this is what I brought up on
News Nation with Chris Cuomo. The sheer fact that this
has been occurring since twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, just it
lays bare the fact that the Biden administration they know
what these things are are. Uh, you know, we had
a source that told us that it has been just
a a absolute shit show in the White House as
they've been panicking over how to mitig mitigate this this crisis,
and it's it's just, you know, it's it's really it's
really insane. And the fact that the White House is
trying to play this as misidentified aircraft. And again I'm
not saying that that that is not the case. That
certainly videos and even possibly some of the videos that
that we just saw from Officer steedam you know, there
is a slight chance that these could be misidentified aircraft.
But the totality, when you have that sheer number of
videos coming from from individuals, it really it really tips
the scales in the direction that that these are not
any sort of any sort of conventional, conventional thing. And
again I would point out from Officer Grooms that in
the twenty nineteen, twenty twenty sidings that these things were
only one hundred to two hundred feet off the ground
we have in our possession. I think it's somewhere around
eighty to maybe one hundred nine to one one calls
to record that were provided to us from the twenty
nineteen twenty twenty incident. And when you read these records,
it is clear that these are not conventional drones. They
are not hobbyist drones. They are not a jet aircraft
that's being mistaken for these things. Is it is really
something else? And the fact that you've got this administration,
and again, if this were a Republican administration, I'd be
saying the same thing. I'm coming at this from a
non partisan lens. The fact that this administered is gas
lighting Americans, the fact that this administration is gas lighting lawmakers,
the fact that this administration is gas lighting local and
state police is unacceptable when you have local and state
law enforcement. And by this, I'm talking about what has
been reported in New Jersey when they are when they
are basically getting the same line of bullshit that the
public is getting. These men and women that are sworn
to protect all of us, when they get garbage from
the White House, from the Biden administration, from the Pentagon,
how can they do their jobs? When Officer Grooms spoke
about these things in order Nebraska in twenty nineteen, twenty
twenty over a school where our kids are at and
there's no strategic or or any reason that they would
need to be out there. How is that not a
threat to public safety? It clearly is the ad the administration,
the Biden Administration, the Pentagon, the Three letter agencies. They
want all of you, and in particular, state and local
officials and members of Congress. They want all of them
to think this is brand new. Uh. You know when
you listen to to to Admiral Admiral Kirby come out
and and throw out these just absolutely insane talking points.
It's almost like you're watching a skit from Saturday Night Live.
It is it is. It is just laughable at at
what they really think that we're gonna buy. You know,
Like like like Officer Grooms and Deputy Steedham said, you know,
the good people of Nebraska, they love their country. They
know when the government is lying to them. We all
know that the government is lying to us right now.
So their their comps plan, their communications plan, the Biden
Administration's communication plan to try and put the cat back
in the bag. Is to say, oh, this is all new,
you know what, We're going to look into this. By golly,
we're going to get to the bottom of this. We
want to know the answers to the same questions everyone
here that's watching wants to know. We're going to get
to the bottom of this. We're going to send out
some special teams, we're going to send out some special
drone detection stuff, and we're going to figure out what
all this stuff is. It's a load of bullshit that
they are selling. Every single American. It is garbage. They
are lying to you. Do not accept what they are saying.
It is when when an administration, and again I don't
care if it's Republican or Democrat or anything in the between,
when an administration is lining to the public and line
to state and local officials and lining to lawmakers about
something that directly involves this nation's national security, that is
the most Unamerican thing you can do, full stop. It
is absolutely un American for officials from the Pentagon, from
officials from the National Security Council to trot out in
front of TV on Fox News, CNN, whatever and say
there's no I forgot exactly what the phrase was, but
you know, we do not think there's a threat. You
do not think there is a threat. You got to
be kidding me. So the administration is saying, we don't
know where these are from, we don't know where they're
coming from, where they're going to, we don't know who's flying.
But the fact of the matter is they do know
all the answers to all those questions. But then they
won't come clean with law enforcement. They won't come clean
with the people that are are sworn to protect and
serve the citizens of this country. They're leaving them in
the dark. I cannot think of a greater case of
gross negligence from an administration when it comes to this.
I cannot think of any I don't know who's who's
running the ship over there. I don't I don't get it,
you know. And I'm a Democrat, I voted for Biden,
and I'm mad as hell that this is going on.
This is this is incompetence from an administration the likes
that I have not seen in a very very long
time now when it comes to the UAP issue, this
has been kept in the bag for many decades. Democrat
and Republican. Republican administrations. This is this is nothing new.
But when they say that they don't think there is
a threat to public safety. They don't think How do
they know this when they're not when when they publicly anyways,
are are are you know? Are you know? Are stating this?
You know this is a public safety issue. When it
boils down to it, it is a national security issue.
The fact that these vehicles are operating with impunity all
across the United States, The fact that these vehicles are
operating with impunity over joint air bases in the UK
and at NATO bases. The fact that these things have
have operated with in such a prolific way that last
year they shut down Langley Air Force Base for almost
a month where they had to move an entire F
twenty two fighter wing out to another air base, and
then just recently at Andrew's Air Force Base, these things
shut down the airspace again. How can this administration tell
any of us that this is not a threat. It
makes zero sense. It is a lie. They are not
being truthful with Americans when they say that these things
are not just a nuisance. These are a these incursions
because they are operating and restricted airspace. If I were
to hop in a small private plane and start tooling
around and circling over Langley Air Force BACE or Andrews
Air Force Space. I would get shot out of the sky.
If I had a hobbyist drone and I were flying
that over Andrew's Air Force Space or Langley Air Force
Space tooling around that drone would get knocked out of
the sky. They have the technology to do that, but
they do not have the technology to mitigate and even
detect what is going on with their anti drone technology.
Think of the millions possibly I'll just say hundreds of
millions of dollars that the Pentagon has spent on anti
drone technology and none of it is doing a damn
bit of good. Our taxpayer dollars are going to this
this Pentagon black hole budget that clearly is not effective,
and this White House is covering it up. That is
an acceptable. What is important is that all of us
amplify these voices of these law enforcement officials. We need
to get these folks such as Officer Chris Groomes and
Deputy uh Steedham in front of Congress to talk about
what they what they viewed. Because here's here's one of
the main things that I want to emphasize with this
whole Nebraska thing, you can you can you can make
a somewhat reasoned argument that in a busy air space
such as New Jersey or Los Angeles, that you know
that there is a lot of air traffic, conventional conventional
air traffic that could be misidentified. And certainly there is
a portion of this that is being reported in New
Jersey and New York that is being misidentified just due
to the sheer amount of things flying around in the sky.
But what you know, what you were hearing specifics from
people in New Jersey when they're talking about things the
size of cars that's not a conventional drone. The fact
that in ord Nebraska population of what they say, two
to three thousand people, that hundreds of these things are
operating with in a in a piece of America where
there is no noise pollution, there is no light pollution,
and there are barely airplanes cruising overhead at thirty five
thousand feet that you can barely hear. What they're talking
about is something different? Could a percentage of them be prosaic? Absolutely?
What all of this says is that you know, this
really connects the dots to this entire UAP issue. My
personal view is that the most of what is going
on is likely UAP. It is most it is most
likely UAP mimicking. Are you know what we would normally
see in the sky as drones? That's my personal opinion.
The jury is still out. But when you hear behavior,
particularly what Officer Grooms spoke about in terms of no noise,
no uh, you know these things being as large as
an F one fifty pickup truck. I mean, come on,
it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out
that you know that this is not something normal. But
what this shines a spotlight on is the the dire
need for legislation to be passed by Congress that restores
oversight of the executive branch when it comes to this issue. Now,
Senator Senator Chuck Schumer and Senator Mike Rounds put forth
the UAP Disclosure Act for twenty twenty four that was
unfortunately defeated. It was sixty three pages of legislation on
UAPs and once again prop the fat cats and Congress
that are the recipients of large amounts of defense dollars,
we're the ones that killed it. But here's the thing
this and all of this Havana syndrome. UAPs likely all
of this because I do think it's UAP is classified
in two places. It's classified under the National Security the
White House National Security Council, and it's classified in the
Department of Energy under the nineteen fifty four Atomic Energy
Act under trans Classified Foreign Nuclear Information. These classification buckets,
Congress does not have the legal authority to view. So
if you've got a special access program or controlled access
program related to UAP or drones or continuity of government
or nuclear war plan, the nuclear war plans, Congress does
not have the ability to view that classified product. Not
even the Gang of A has the legal authority to
view that product. So these classification buckets that these things
sit under, Congress has no insight. They don't have any
They don't have a window into how many billions, if
not trillions of dollars are being spent on researching this
off world tech. You know, Congress, they don't have access
to it. They are frozen out. And this has been
this way for well over probably eighty years, and it
has it has got it has got to change. You know.
The other thing is that you know, we've seen time
and time again, whether it's local law enforcements such as
Officer Chris Grooms or our officer, excuse me, a Deputy
steedum that all of these folks they need, they need
whistleblower protections, especially the folks that are whistle blowing to
government filing PPD nineteen's. There is a long history of
the executive a branch, in particular the Pentagon from physically
retaliating against these whistleblowers. And we need protections for you,
for these, you know, for these whistleblowers. You know, I
want to point out again the difference in reaction from
the Biden administration during the China balloon Gate or whatever
you want to call it, you know, compared to now
you know. So, on February eleventh, on previous orders of
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, a quote small cylindrical object
was shot down over the Yukon territory for violating Canadian airspace.
Both US and Canadian aircraft had scrambled and a f
us F twenty two fighter jet made the kill. Again,
has that been shared with Congress? Gun camera footage been
shared with Congress? No. On February fourteenth, the US government
announced that the latter three high altitude objects shot down
over the North America were likely private entities with no
relations to China. Further analysis and debris collections were underway.
The four AIM nine X heat seeking missiles expended for
shooting down these objects cost at least one point five
million dollars. The disparity and decision making for shooting these
things down versus the you know, the Chinese balloon, you know,
both caused public panic and alarm, and now the Biden
administration is just trying to blow this off. You know this,
the millions of dollars in one hundreds of millions of
dollars likely spent on you know this anti drone technology
that clearly is not working. You have to ask yourself,
why is President Biden ignoring this? Why despite all of
this information, all of this data, and they know what
this stuff is now whether this We know in the
past that the National Security Council has not shared everything
or sometimes anything at all regarding YOUAP with a sitting president,
So we have no idea if Biden was even told
about any of this. Frankly, the way he's doing these days,
I would be kind of surprised. If they have I
have no idea if Vice President Harris was briefed on
any of this, I have no idea. I would hope
to God that they are. But we know that there
is a history of the NSC National Security Council of
deciding that a sitting president or vice president doesn't need
to know. We know for a fact that National Security
Advisor Jake Sullivan, who sits of course on the National
Security Council, is the primary actor that blocked any further
just disclosure of what's going on with UAP. That kind
of stuff, my friends, that jeopardizes our national security. That,
my friends, is unacceptable, This kind of gaslighting that you know,
they're basically treating us like we're a bunch of children.
That has got to change. And my message to the
incoming Trump administration is you have a unique opportunity to
turn this around. You have a unique opportunity to end
eighty years going of lies to not only Americans, but
every man, woman, and child in the world. My message
to the Trump transition team is you have a unique
opportunity to lay bare the gross in competence and illegal
activities that the Central Intelligence agen Agency has engaged in
President Trump. You you are who will be President Trump
very soon. Sitting in office, you sir, have the ability
to put an end to all of this. It is
it is time to rip the band aid off and
come clean with Americans. And President Trump, you have the
legal authority to do this. Once you are in office.
You can declassify anything that is under the National Security Council,
which is where these UH these waves don't acknowledged SAPs
and as SAPs and caps. You, sir, have the ability
with a simple executive order to declassify what is sitting
under the National Security Council. Now, what is what is
under the Department of Energy under transclassified nuclear nuclear information?
President Trump, you do not have the unilateral authority to
declassify that. You are part of a panel that that
has to vote to declassify it, and I would certainly
encourage you, sir, to do that. It is it is
high time that the lies and the the the just
horrible things that this government has done. And when I
say government, I mean the folks that have you know,
the people that the lifelong UH senior executive service, folks
that serve across multiple administrations, regardless of party. These folks
that have been engaged in clear illegal activity that classify
as felonies. You do not have a democracy when those
people are not being held to account. You you do
not have a democracy when the c suite of multiple
trillion dollar defense corporations, when the c suite is fully
aware of criminal activity that their security contractors are engaged in.
I'm talking Northrop Grumman, I'm talking Boeing, I'm talking Aerospace Corporation.
Those are probably just some of the few that are
likely doing some really bad things that any of us
that are Americans would be absolutely enraged to find out
what is going on. You do not have a country.
You do not have a democracy, a functioning democracy when
people that have worn the uniform, when men and women
that have served our country, some that have given it
all to country. You do not have a democracy when
the Pentagon and the CIA retaliates against those people for
stick for calling out what is going on. The fact
that you have the Department of Defense Inspector General leaking
information privileged information that was given to them under a
a under a testimony to that office. That when you
have the do d IG who is saying, hey, whistleblowers,
if you see something bad, if you know that there's
some legal activity going on with this whole UAP thing.
Come talk to us, and then they go and then
they provide a private testimony, a sworn testimony to the
DoD ig. But then the DoD ig goes and leaks
that information to the press, leaks person information and what
that what that whistleblower said to the press, so that
the you know, the the pond scum of the earth
in terms of journalists, can can do everything they possibly
can to discredit that that that individual. You've got to
be kidding me. This system is set up to fail.
This system is of of the pentagon of these you know,
I dare say deep state, and I know there's a
lot of sort of a partisan baggage that goes with it.
But at least when it comes to this thing, this
sure as hell is the case. You have a group
of fiftiest or so senior executive service level folks that
have made this decision for all of us. We have
had no input. Congress has no input. They've decided for
all of us. What we get to know this group
of fifty ist or so folks and the people the
leadership and Defense Aerospace, they are complicit in this the
fact that you have whistleblowers lives being threatened. You know,
it's like it makes you wonder what kind of country
we truly live in when this kind of stuff is
going on. I can tell you when I was in Washington,
D C. For the congressional hearing, I wasn't there as
the host of The Good Trouble Show. I was there
with the team as I'm the director of strategy for
UEP Disclosure Fund, and we were there to support Louel
Azondo in what he was doing there and in the
multiple meetings that we had with lawmakers. They are well
aware that this is real, it's going on, and it's
a constitutional crisis that must be corrected. You've got you know,
as my mom always said, it's not the lie that
is oftentimes so bad. It's the lie that follow after
that snowball to cover up the original sin. And that's
exactly what has been going on in our country for decades.
The fact that everyone, I think everyone would agree, no
matter what your political preferences or or you know, what
you do for a living or whatever. I think everyone
watching this show would agree that as a species, things
are not going well. We are not as a as
a as a species, as as a country or allies.
Things are not going well. We are not on a
good path. What is going on in Ukraine, the conflict
in the Middle East. We are not on a good
path and the trajectory that we are on as a nation.
And again this is not a I'm not talking politics.
I'm just talking in general. You know where we are
as a nation. It's not good. We need the White
House to come clean about all of this, and I
am hopeful that the incoming administration will do this. We
need something like this to shake the world out of this.
I don't know what you want to call it, this
madness going on where we are barreling towards nuclear conflict
or you know, a large conflict with China, and you
have to ask yourself as well, God forbid we get
into a shooting war with China or Russia. We had
a one of our sources in the government tell us
that right now, within the intelligence agencies and other three
letter agencies, right now with this administration, it is a
literal food fight between these organizations over this whole drone issue.
You have all these fiefdoms and government saying no, that's
not my problem. That's that's your that's your directorate's problem,
or that's uh, that's DHS's problem. Uh No, you know
what that If FBI needs to be looking into that,
that's that's not our jurisdiction. So you've got this same
type of behavior that happened, you know decades ago that
led to nine to eleven the intelligence failures. Uh, the
that that happened due to these pissing contests between the
FBI and the CIA and other other agencies. You've got
that same thing happening. Now. We didn't learn a damn thing.
So God helped this country. If we get into a
shooting war with China or Russia, because the level of
dysfunction in the Pentagon and the CIA and the NSA.
NSA is another primary stakeholder of the UAP issue, this
level of infighting and dysfunction, we're we're screwed if we
get into a shooting war with a major power. This
this nation, This government is dysfunctional, doesn't matter republican democratic
administration as a as a whole, it is dysfunctional. It
has been that way for a long time. I remember
once I spoke to an army colonel asking about how
things go in the Pentagon and and this this person said, well, basically,
each individual armed service, their focus is fighting for money.
It's not you know, what do we need for to
defend against China. It's like I, you know, I want
to get what the air force is getting, and you
know whatever my senator is is saying we need to
spend money on it's it's it's it's the level of
dysfunction that I've heard from multiple sources going on in
the Pentagon in the intelligence community is off the charts.
So when the rubber hits the road and we need
all of that to function, well we're screwed. It's it's
we have too many people in in UH, in our
in our government that are more concerned about and private
defense contractors are more concerned about lining their pockets or
getting sweetheart deals for their for their district, UH buying
weapons systems that make no military sense, but it it
spends money in a particular lawmakers district. We cannot operate
as a country when when everyone is thinking about me, me, me.
We need to get this country back to a place
where we are thinking about all of us and what
is good for this nation, because what is happening. Is
It's truly a travesty. And the fact that this has
been going on for so long and nothing is seemingly
being done about it. The fact that hundreds of these things,
these drones which I do not think are drones, hundreds
of these things were harassing counties in Colorado and Nebraska
in twenty nineteen, and you're telling me in twenty twenty four,
we're supposed to believe what the administration is saying, that
this is all new and they have no idea what
this is, and they don't think it's a threat. It
is dead obvious they are lying to all of you.
It is absolutely obvious. And you know, and the other
you know, the other group. You know, I've I've been
hammering on the administration. Uh uh And again if it
were a publican administration, I would be saying the exact
same thing. But the other group that is, uh is
not serving our country are these uh, these professional debunkers,
folks like mcwest, Stephen green Street. Uh. You know, you've
got some of these other clowns, abnormal Chris Guy and
and some others. Uh. You know, this whole debunking thing,
it is a literal industry like if if you go
and you look at the Center for Inquiry in Amherst,
New York, which has sponsors these big debunker conventions in
Las Vegas, uh in, this organization that has people like
Mick West and Susan Gerbick from Guerrilla Skeptics build NIVA
Science Guide, Neil deGrasse Tyson on their sort of celebrity
board or whatever. This organization that has had something like
four point seven million dollars coming into it. This is
a whole machine. This debunking thing is a whole machine.
They are nothing but agents of disinformation. They are nothing
but agents of spreading conspiracies and disinformation and lies. Now,
my personal opinion is I think they are probably funded
by the CIA or some cutout. I have no proof,
but you know, when I look at the amount of
time that people like Mcwest and these other debunkers spend
on this, it's to me it makes no sense that
they would do all of this for free. But when
you are wanting to kind of figure out what is
going on with this whole drone situation, when you've got
a group of people like Mickwest and others that unequivocally
say this is what it is unequivocally say all of
these videos are either starlink or seagulls or an airplane,
end of story. I think mcwest at one point had
set up you know, drone flaps over, let's move on.
You have to really ask yourself why are they so
adamant about this. You have to ask yourself why these
nutty debunkers spend so much time on this. It doesn't
make any sense. I said earlier, some of the videos
that were on they absolutely could be could have been
a misidentified aircraft. There's a difference between people like myself
and others that are looking for the truth, whatever it
may be, and being willing to say, you know what,
that was a misidentified airplane or that was a satellite,
It wasn't anything fancy. Because you're open, your mind is open,
You're willing to go wherever the data leads. But when
you have these disinformation agents, these kind of agents of chaos,
spreading this kind of disinformation, trying to throw chaff in
the air, the purpose the purpose is to get all
of you, including lawmakers, to stop asking this. That's what
these debunkers want. They do not want the truth. They
are there to pedal disinformation. That is their job. And
all you got to do is look at their posts
when you go and you if you go and you
look at an account of one these main debunkers, if
you go and and just skim through a year of
their tweets, you will quickly realize these individuals are deceivers.
That is their goal. I think they're probably paid to
do that. I have no evidence, it's just a personal
hunch of mine. But they are not there to get
to the truth of any of this. They are not
good actors. These are people not interested in the truth.
These are people that will manipulate data or leave a
data out to prove their point because in their world
it is that they are basically approaching this as a
black and white issue, and that is none of this
is real. Doesn't matter what evidence you show them, none
of it is real, because that's their job to tell
you that. So when you have police officers like Chris Groome's,
military pilots, intelligence officials, men and women working for three
letter agencies that are reporting this stuff and what they're
reporting is clearly not from here, and you've got Nick
West out there saying, oh, they don't know what they're
looking at when you've got Nick West saying, oh, police
misidentifies stuff all the time, or these pilots mistake balloons
all the time, it's he's gaslighting you. All these debunkers
are doing the exact same thing that this administration is doing.
They're gaslighting you. These are not stupid people, these debunkers,
They are not just kind of religious zelots or something.
They know exactly what are doing and it's it's it's
high time we call them out on it. I think,
you know, oftentimes I'll hear people say, you know what,
you're giving these folks too much oxygen. If you didn't
give them this oxygen or talk about them on their show,
they would go away. But that is not the case.
I could stop today, and they're going to keep on
going because they have such a large media social media footprint.
They know that they can influence things. They know that
people like mcwest will be called on to CNN or
to do a special for PBS to debunk this. The
other thing too, that I would point out is the
mainstream media. Again, I'm a liberal Democrat, I you know,
I support a lot of this stuff. I mean actually
more of a centrist, but you know this stuff about
the mainstream press, the lane lamestream press. It's true. They
they ignore things. They they do not cover things. When
you know, when you have New York Times reporter Julian
Barnes putting out the exact same propaganda that Mick West
put out just days earlier, it's crystal clear that these
folks are doing what these folks, uh, these these lifers
in in the government want them to do. Go back again,
zoom out, go back and look at every single New
York Times article that Julian Barnes has done, and ask
yourself this question, is Julian Barnes perhaps being paid by
the intelligence community. Just ask yourself, after you've read all
of the articles that that that journalist has written, ask
yourself if he's being an unbiased journalist. You you can
see this with other journalists for Wall Street Journal and
other publications Washington the Washington Post. When you go and
you you look at at, let's just say, a recent
article published about UAPs or drones, if it's basically debunking it,
I guarant damn tee you if you go and you
search for that journalist's previous articles on UAP or or
Havana syndrome or drones. You're gonna find they took the
exact same stamps because these journalists are They're compromised, really
is what it is. You know. Fortunately, you you have
people like Ross Coltart, Christopher Sharp of Liberation Times, Ross
Coultart at News Nation, the Chris Cuomo at NewsNation, you know,
George Knapp uh Mark von Rennankamp you. You we have
journalists that are doing the work, they are putting in
the time, they are putting in the effort. And then
you have somebody like this joke of a journalist a
Julian Barnes at the New York Times who is doing
nothing more than carrying the water for the Pentagon. That's it,
It's all he's doing. He's not trying to he's not
investigating things, he's not contacting these folks. He's just a
parent for the Pentagon. So people like these journalists that
are not being truthful, that are spreading disinformation, these debunkers
that are spreading disinformation, these folks harm our national security
full stop because what they do affects what has an
effect on our lawmakers, lawmakers. Read a debunker article from
Julian Barnes in the New York Times. They think, oh, well,
this is the New York Times. They must be credible.
Right Wrong, New York Times, at least with this reporter
once again is not uh is has skin in the game.
We'll just say that you can't trust what they're saying.
It's it's it's it's it's ridiculous. And uh. And I
just uh, I I hope to God that this new administration,
President Trump, does the right thing. I don't think that
there's any president in recent history that I have would
have had had the same confidence in in trying to
do the right thing when it comes to this. We
already saw that President elect Trump with these drones said,
uh said these basic things. Uh. The Biden administration, including
President Biden, knows what these things are and where they're from.
I think he said they've known about this for a while,
that for some reason they're not telling the public, and
President like Trump has no idea why, and that these
things are are weird. I forgot the thing, and that
he also President Trump would not say if he had
been briefed on it, but I guarant d n t
you he has. So already you've got an incoming president
who has said more than just about anyone, certainly more
than this president has. So I really truly hope and
we should all hope. Again. I'm a Democrat, I am
wishing this president well that he do the right thing
and and and get this thing out. It's got to happen.
So I support this incoming administration in any work they
do to get this thing out. It doesn't matter if
you're a Democrat or Republican, you should support any president
that is working to right the wrongs when it comes
to this topic. So I certainly am am supportive of
of that. We may disagree on just about any any
anything else, but you know, policy wise, but I I
truly hope President Trump and his administration do the right thing.
I am optimistic in that the appointees that he has,
he's made such as Marco Rubio and other other good,
good Republicans, most of those folks have have either been
partially read in or fully read into this whole UAP issue,
and all of them, as far as I'm aware and
in terms of their public statements, have all have all
publicly stated that that this needs to come out. And
speaking of presidents, my message to any form presidential administration
pretty much every president now and that is alive in
our lifetime was read into this at some point, read
into the UAP crash retrieval reverse engineering program. They know
all of it now. President Obama has spoken publicly about
a UAP, saying that these things are flying around in
our skies. And I think President George Bush juniors said
some things. But my message to all of these presidents,
and I would say this to President Biden, is Trump
is going to come into office and dump all of this.
And Trump will rightfully be able to say to about
all of the former presidents that they knew and they
chose not to tell the American public. The incoming president
will come in and we know we were told long ago.
President Trump was fully read into this towards the end
of his administration, so he knows everything. He's going to
come in and when he dumps this, people are going
to be asking President Obama, President Bush, President Carter, President Clinton,
why you did not come clean with the American people.
President Trump will be able to say truthfully that these
presidents did not tell the American public. And for those
of you, and we know a lot of folks in
Congress watch this show now. I have no idea if
for former administrations do, but if you guys are watching,
it's going to tarnish your president's reputation. So I would
actually encourage these former presidents to reach out to President
elect Trump and say, let's all do this together. Let's
all do this for country. It doesn't matter if you're
Democrat or Republican. This whole UAP issue transcends politics, It
transcends party. So every sitting president that you can get
up on stage with the President Trump and say, look,
this is what's been going on for eighty years and longer.
The country made some bad decisions, but you know, every
country makes bad decisions. We all do bad things. But
it's time for reconciliation. It's time to come clean with
Americans and people in everyone in the world. And this
is a situation it needs to happen. As Louel Azondo
has said time and time again, this is like food
rotting in the refrigerator. It's not getting any better. But
most importantly, this is about your national security. When you
have these things in the skies, shutting down our land
based strategic nuclear deterrent, interfering with minute Man three missile wings,
and there's a long history of it, and it is
still going on to this day, and the Air Force
is covering it up as they always have. When you've
got these drones hovering above schools in Alaska, sorry in Nebraska.
When you've got these drones hovering over critical infrastructure in
New Jersey and New York. When you have these drones
hovering over restricted airspace, over our nation's most strategically important
air force spaces that are responsible for protecting the capital region.
When you've got these drones operating above air force spaces that,
by the way, are now going to be authorized to
hold our nations our nation's tactical nuclear weapons. Was an
agreement that was recently signed with Britain that essentially states
that our former are our joint Air Force bases in
the United Kingdom, ones that are built to house nuclear weapons.
Will guess what, an agreement was signed just in the
beginning of November that reauthorizes the United States to place
tactical battlefield nuclear weapons back in the UK. And these
things are operators, drones are operating above these bases. The
fact that these drones are operating above NATO bases, they're
reported in Germany, they're frankly reported everywhere. Folks, this is
a national security issue. It is a national security likely
a threat, and this administration is fumbling the ball and
putting the safety of all of us at risk. The
fact that the men and women that would the badge
that protect all of us, that are sworn to protect
their citizens are being lied to and not being given
the information they need to know is unacceptable. Look, these
things may or may not be a threat. No one knows.
They certainly they have the capability to that is for sure,
but we don't know their intent, or at least we
have not been told their intent. The Biden administration they
know exactly what these things are. The Pentagon knows exactly
what these things are. It's been going on probably well
before twenty nineteen. So when they're acting like this is new,
they are not being straight. But this is a public
safety issue, full stop. And the fact that this administration
cannot even be honest with state lawn enforcement, it's just insane.
It would be like if let's say that it would
be like there's a serial burglary ring running around in
my neighborhood hitting houses, and let's say the chief of
police didn't know about it or sorry, let's say the
chief of police knew about it and the mayor knew
about it, but they made a decision. You know what,
we're not going to tell the citizens. We're just we're
going to keep that in the dark. So I'm at home,
you know, defending my home, and I have no idea
that this threat exists because the government isn't telling me
about it. They're making a decision about my personal safety
for me, I have no say in the matter. It
would be like a mayor, a police chief not telling
an entire city that they're is this burglary burglary ring
going around. It doesn't mean that they're gonna hit your house.
You may be lucky, but at least if I knew
about it, I could prepare. And that's not happening. We
are all being kept in the dark. Members of Congress
are being lied to. It has gone. It has happened
time and time again, administration through administration. In my message
to this incoming administration is it's time to turn a
new page for this nation. It's time to put this uh,
put this to a stop. It's it just it. It
has to and uh yeah, so uh thanks again for
tuning in. We appreciate the super chat donations. We really
appreciate that. And I also I would in courage every
single person watching this show. When you see your law
enforcement out on the streets, when you see man or
woman in uniform serving their city, I want you to
go up to them and I want you to thank
them for their sacrifice. I want you to thank them
for putting them in harm's way to protect all of us.
We need more people like Officer Grooms and Deputy as
Steedom to come forward and feel like they can come
forward and say, look, this is what's going on. We're
law enforcement professionals and this is what we are seeing.
But these folks, they have a thankless job and we
should all be very very grateful that we have law
enforcement officials like like Chris grew Rooms and Deputy Esteem
that are serving serving their country and you know we
we are lucky for it. I'm just going to see
if we've got any more questions here. T C n N.
Thank you very much for the super Chat. Very much,
very much appreciated. And uh yeah, so my message to
all of you with all of this is keep reporting,
call your local officials when this stuff happens. Call your
elected representatives and say, look, we know, we know the
White House is lying to us, we know that a
lot of these news publications are lying, and we demand something,
something to that something be done about this. At the
end of the day, our publics are personal safety, Our
national security is everyone's business. It is it is incumbent
on all of us that we speak up and demand
that we be told the truth, because you cannot have
a democracy. You cannot have a functioning democracy when the government,
when the administration, when the Pentagon, when the CIA, when
the NSA, when the FBI lies to all of us.
And that's what's happening now.