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Speaker 1: Everyone. I'm Matt Ford, and welcome to the Good Trouble Show.

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The issue of drones operating with impunity in our airspace

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is a national security crisis.

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Speaker 2: So here's the question to our mutual friend, mister Ford.

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Speaker 1: First of all, welcome Matt. I hope we have more

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conversations going forward.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate what you're.

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Speaker 1: Trying to do. Thank you, Chris. Either they don't know

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or they don't want us to know. Which do you

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think it is?

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Speaker 3: And why?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Chris, thanks thanks for having me. I mean, you know,

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really the takeaway here, you know, when you when you

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hear the testimony from Officer Grooms, it demonstrates that the

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Biden Harris administration is absolutely gas lighting Americans. I mean,

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you know, just look at the clip that you played

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of Pete but a judge, you know, making fun of it.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: So, you know, despite mounting concerns from local authorities in

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New Jersey and elsewhere, the White House is just not

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being honest with the American people. They want, you know,

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they want the Americans to think that this is something new.

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I think it was NC National Security Council spokesman Admiral

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John Kirby said, you know, oh, you know, we want

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the same answers as you do. But with Chris's story

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and others, it lays there that this is a nation

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wide problem, dating back to at least twenty nineteen. What

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occurred in Colorado and Nebraska just last year, you know,

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December of last year, in twenty twenty three, Langley Air

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Force Base was virtually shut down by massive swarms of drones.

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They had to relocate, relocate an entire wing of F

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twenty two fighters just this Thanksgiving of this year, you know,

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prior to what happened in New Jersey, these things began

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showing up over our joint Air Force spaces in the UK.

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They are showing up at NATO bases in Europe and Germany.

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Andrews Air Force Space recently had to shut down their airspace.

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They are in Nebraska, New York. You know, the drones

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over Nebraska in twenty nineteen. What you know what Officer

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Grooms is referring to. You know, these these are virtually

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identical in description and behavior to what is being reported

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now you know, so so, Chris. It leads to the

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question why the disparity in decision making for shootdowns between

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you know, what you had with the Chinese balloons and

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the drones. You know, it both caused public alarm and concern.

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Why is the Biden administration now not reacting to these jones,

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these drones? You know, you have a new Jersey mayor

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who said they hovered over his home with the same

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seriousness as they did with the Chinese balloons. You know, yeah,

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you know what, you know, why why the difference? That's

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that's what I think. No one can figure out what

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the hell is going on in the Bible administration. So

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that was yours truly, along with the former chief of

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Police of Ord, Nebraska, Chris Grooms on News Nation with

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Chris Cuomo. The point I was making on air is

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that the Biden administration is gas lighting the public and

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local officials on what it knows about these mysterious drones.

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I also pointed out on News Nation that the Biden

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administration wants everyone to think that this is something new,

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something you know, they want to get to the bottom of.

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You know, we we you know, we need to send

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teams out and spend millions or billions of taxpayer dollars

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on new sensor systems so they can figure out what

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the hell is operating in our skies again like this

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has never happened before. You know, We've seen that kind

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of behavior time and time again out of the Biden administration,

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out of previous administrations as well, and also obviously the Pentagon.

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The White House is just gas lighting everybody. And you know,

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and really the worst worst thing about it is they

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are not being honest with state and local law enforcement. Really, frankly,

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they are a lying to them, you know, because here's

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here's the truth, folks. The Biden administration knows precisely what

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this is and where this comes from. And you know,

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and here's the thing. The fact is is that this

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has been going on for a long time. When National

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Security Spokesman Admiral John National Security Council Spokesman John Kirby

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gets on CNN or Fox or whatever and acts like

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that this is something new, he is he's full of shit.

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He's not. They're not being straight with you. And moreover,

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when they do this, this throws our excuse me, are

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men and women of law enforcement. This essentially throws them

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under the bus. This is basically saying, these folks that

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are trained observers have no idea what they are looking for.

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It is. It is a slap in the face from

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the Biden administration to anyone that has served or is

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serving this country, and frankly, it's disgusting. So today, the

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former chief of Police of Ord, Nebraska, Chris Groomes, will

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join us again on the show. But we also have

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another law enforcement official going public for the very first time.

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He will show fifteen never before seen clips of drones

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he has caught on his phone and is a security

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camera while on duty duty. Excuse me, but first please

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We always appreciate the support. Okay. So today's guests are

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the epitome of serving your country. On your left here

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is a US Army Airborne Infantry veteran who is now

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serving his country as a law enforcement professional. As a

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sheriff's deputy for Valley County, Nebraska. He was the department's

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sniper and firearms instructor. He is now the former chief

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of police for ord Nebraska. When we actually had him

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on for our interview, he was a chief of police

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at the time. So please welcome back to the show.

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On everyone's left. Chief former police chief Chris Groomes on

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the right, going public for the very first time with

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his experiences. Please welcome from Valley County, Nebraska, from the

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Sheriff's Department. There a Deputy Jade Steadham. Gentlemen, how are

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you welcome to the show?

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Speaker 2: Pretty good?

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Speaker 1: How are you excellent?

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me?

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Speaker 1: Thanks, yeah, and thanks thanks for coming back. Chris. So, Chris,

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let's start with you firstly, like I said, welcome back

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to the show. Really glad, really glad you're here. How

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have these citizens of Ord, Nebraska reacted to you going

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public and you know and really frankly standing up for

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your town and your community.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's been pretty much the same thing as

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before that recently or you know, earlier when I was

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trying to get this out there to the government. You know,

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it's thank you for what you're doing. We really appreciate it. Right,

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it hasn't stopped. It's it's still it's still people wanting

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to know what's going on, and they do come to me,

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whether through text, email, give me a phone call. They're

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reaching out to me because they're still concerned.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Now, Deputy steedem am, I saying your last

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name correctly.

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Speaker 2: Steedem Yep, that's correct.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I tend to butcher names on this show. I

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don't know, Maybe I need to take like an addiction

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or pronunciation class or something like that. Okay, So you're

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going public with your experiences. This is the first time.

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How does it feel. Are you nervous? Excited? What are

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you feeling right now?

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Speaker 2: Definitely a little nervous.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well don't don't don't be nervous here. You're

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amongst friends here, and you know, and as I mentioned

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off off the air before we started, my hat is

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really off to both of you. The easy way would

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be to stay silent about this and not you know,

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not go public. Uh. You know, you always have, you know,

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the folks that that try to propagate the stigma and

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all of that. But as you know, as I've said

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Tim and again on this on this show, this is

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really a public safety issue. This is a national security issue.

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So having trained observers such as yourself, not to discount

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people at home that see this stuff and report it.

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But the fact that that both of you are are

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paid law enforcement professionals, uh, and and you are trained observer,

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what the statements you make can be are admissible in

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courting cases and whatnot, so you know, so it's not

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like you guys aren't used to looking at things in

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the line of your work and making evaluations of what

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you are looking at. So my hat is off to

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both of you, and really we really appreciate it. So

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before we dig into what Deputy Streedum, as you know

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what you've encountered, Chris, walk us through, if you don't mind,

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once again, what happened in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty

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in Valley County. And I understand you were not chief

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of police at that time. You were a deputy in

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the same sheriff's department that Deputy Stedum is incorrect.

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's correct. So back in twenty nineteen, late December,

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we started having things flying around that shouldn't have been there,

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and as far as you know the area where I lived,

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this stuff was happening. We do have your commercial flyover

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planes at thirty five thirty eight thousand feet, but as

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far as at one hundred feet, one hundred and fifty feet,

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sometimes even sixty feet, we were seeing things that didn't

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make sense. They shouldn't have been there. They weren't from

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our local military, from our local law enforcement, you know,

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the state patrol was telling us that it wasn't their stuff.

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These things were doing very odd things around in our community,

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whether it was you know, harassing livestock or hovering over

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the town, swarming the town. Upwards of fifty of these

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things swarming around Arcadia, Nebraska. They just, like I said

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in the recent interview, it just didn't make sense when.

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Speaker 1: You say harassing livestock. Exactly what was reported and how

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many reports nine to one one calls did you get

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regarding that.

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Speaker 3: As far as the livestock stuff, the harassmental livestock, It

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wasn't every night, it wasn't reoccurring, but it was. It

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did happen a few times from a few different ranchers

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or farmers about these lights in the sky just shining

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down a light if you want to call it that

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on their cattle, and it would make their cattle move off,

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or their horses even would move off, and they'd have

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to go out the next day trying to get accountability again.

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And sometimes these things, you know, would chase off their

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their livestock two miles away and they would have to

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go search for these things for two miles away, and

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out here in Board Nebraska, we have huge sand hills

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and sometimes it can be a super pain in the

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ass to get your UTV or your four wheeler, especially

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when it's cold, down into a draw or ravene to

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try and find these animals. So, you know, not only

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are you wasting your resources going out trying to find

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these expensive animals, but there's all the possibility of a

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rollover or you know, know, not having cell service, not

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being able to get hold of somebody. So it just

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became a nuisance.

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Speaker 1: And describe what you saw in terms, because you saw

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these drones yourself. How big were they? And yeah, how

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big were they? Did they do they sound similar to

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what is being reported in New Jersey?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the the one that I saw very very close,

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you know, one hundred feet one hundred and fifty feet

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in the air. It was nothing but a big, bright light.

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There was no there was no shape to it. I

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couldn't tell if it had beans, just because due to

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how bright that light was, and like I had mentioned,

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it had it had contrails behind it, but it was

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going so fast that for me to even be able

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to see what it was other than a bright light.

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It was almost impossible.

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Speaker 1: So you weren't able to That's sorry, going ahead.

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Speaker 3: No, I was just going to say some of the

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other reports that we received from our nine point one

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or just some of our local witnesses calling in, it

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was similar to what some of the stuff in New

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Jersey is showing us.

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Speaker 1: And what was what was in terms of like size,

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what was what was the most commonly reported size of

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people seeing these things?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we had we had plenty, plenty of reports

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on large ones, you know, the size of pickup trucks,

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of subs, as well as sometimes when we would see

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swarms of upwards of eleven to forty eight to fifty,

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they typically weren't your large ones. They were of a

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smaller nature. Whether it was a quad copter or a

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bright light, I don't know, but they they typically were

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the smaller looking ones when they were in the bigger formations,

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and it seemed like the well, please go ahead, I

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was going to say, it seemed like the big ones

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if you want, if you want to call them that,

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the bigger size drones, balls of light. They they typically

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were by themselves.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And did these things make any noise at all?

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Speaker 3: The night that I saw the big giant ball of

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light in the sky that a few other witnesses and

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the sheriff himself saw it. It was silent, there was

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there was nothing.

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Speaker 1: And how high was this off the ground? Could it

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have been just too high to hear anything?

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Speaker 3: No, it definitely was anywhere between one hundred and one

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hundred and fifty feet high, because I referenced off its

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height with the co Op towers light, which is about

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one hundred hundred and fifty feet, so it was right there.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah. So that's pretty low, and it is for

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the most part. The nine to one one calls that

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came in regarding us and the calls to service that

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you guys acted upon, were was that sort of the

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typical altitude? These these things weren't up as high as

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a as like a commercial airliner. They were fairly low

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to the ground.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. They they were sometimes at tree level, you know,

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fIF sixty feet.

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Speaker 1: Even the large ones they were low.

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Speaker 3: What's that?

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Speaker 1: Even the large ones.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, the the large ones not only just

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in our county, but in the surrounding counties that these

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deputies and the sheriffs were reporting to, they were low.

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They were that sixty to one hundred and fifty feet And.

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Speaker 1: Was the public at the time were they panicked about this?

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What characterized the number of volumes excuse me, the number

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of nine to one one calls that you that you

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guys received, and overall, what was the tone of those

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calls in terms of the emotion or concern from the

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citizens calling in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it initially wasn't really a concerning thing. It's only

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after they continued to show up and we're showing up

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in bigger numbers, and that you know, even US local

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law enforcement guys. We're telling people, hey, we can't find them,

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we can't track them, we don't know where they're coming from,

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we don't know where they're going. We're reaching out to

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federal authorities, you know, off at Air Force Base. And

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then when they started giving us the yeah, it's not us,

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we don't know, we're looking into it, you know, then

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it became a concern to the to the local populists

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that they knew, you know, this isn't normal and somebody

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needs to fess up and let us know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Did the US government I understand that that that the sheriff,

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the sheriff, they're contacted the FBI, d H s f A,

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A US strat Com? Did did the government? Did the

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White House at the time? Did anyone from the federal

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government eventually come back to you guys, say like three

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months later and say, oh, we figured out what these

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things are? No? Okay, So absolutely absolutely no response from

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the federal government that just after what you guys encountered stopped,

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They just seemed to stop caring.

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Speaker 3: Yep. The only people that were caring were journalists.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable if you would walk us well, actually, firstly, how

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many nine to one one calls do you think you

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guys received over that twenty nineteen twenty twenty period. And

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then second, if you were to put a number on

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the total drones that were operating in the county, what

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would you put that at as an estimate?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So for Valley County, including the ORG nine calls,

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I would estimate between forty four and forty eight in

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that fourteen to seventeen days. And as far as the

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surrounding counties, they were seeing the same stuff at the

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same time as we were, So you can only imagine

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what we are receiving in our county approximately the same

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hour at night. The other counties are receiving the same

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thing as well, you know, and some of these counties

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were one hundred miles away. So, like I had said

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in the past, this was a very well coordinated, well

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funded incident. And it's just mind boggling that we're being

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told that, oh, don't worry about it. You know, it's

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they're out looking for this, or you know, this is

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just an isolated incident, because it's not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually, I had no idea. I thought at the

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time when we recorded your interview, which I think was

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it may have been well over a month ago, but

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it was only happening in that one, one city at

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a time. I didn't realize it was. It was so prolific.

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That's that's pretty significant.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yep. And you know, you can imagine out here

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in middle of nowhere, Nebraska, we we are not a

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huge law enforcement presence, but we all worked together. We

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we talked to the other counties, the other pds, state patrol,

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we we all you know, we all have have each

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other on speed dial if you want to call it

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that for stuff. So you can only imagine when I'm

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seeing stuff in my county and then a deputy from

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a county just next to me is calling saying, dude,

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are you seeing this crap? Are you guys getting calls

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down there? Yep, yep, we're we're dealing with the two man.

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Speaker 1: So that's yeah. That's now. How big is Ord, Nebraska

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in terms of the population.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or it's about twenty one twenty two hundred people,

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and then Valley Counties pushing close to five thousand and.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wow, so there aren't a lot of people out there.

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Speaker 3: No, And and Valley County is not huge, but it's

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not small. I think it's about five hundred and sixty

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eight square miles the county is okay.

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Speaker 1: And is there much in the way of air traffic

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that occurs in Valley County?

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Speaker 3: No, just just your typical crop dusters and and and

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you know some of our local military coming out of

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Grand Island flight Chinooks and black Hawks, and we might

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have a metavact coming in once in a while from

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Carnie or Lincoln or Grand Island. But that's that's not

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every hour every day. It's it's maybe a couple of

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times a week if that. And you can hear the

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helicopters coming in, so.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can get some commercial flights up high too.

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But you can hear those even even at that altitude.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and you and you can tell that at those

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commercial flights that are flying over that are coming from

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New York or Los Angeles or Denver, you can tell

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that they're at thirty five thousand, thirty eight thousand feet.

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It's way up there.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: And you just know, now, Deputy Stephen, were you in

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law enforcement in Nebraska during the twenty nineteen twenty twenty wave?

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Speaker 2: Nope, I was not in my ownness at that time.

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Speaker 1: So did you a as not working in law enforcement

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at the time. Did you see any of these during

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twenty nineteen twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: I did not.

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Speaker 4: My mother did, actually, so she called me up and

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was just ecstatic that there was just hundreds of them

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out all over Valley County and she witnessed personally like

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twenty plus just hovering up above the ground or the

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size of cars.

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Speaker 1: Twenty plus Yep. That's yeah, wow. Okay, So I want

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to start digging in, digging in to some of the

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these videos that you've sent and and then you know,

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we'll just kind of split the show up. This this

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show is a little bit different in that we're not

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going to really have sort of a strict format. So

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we'll look at some of your videos and then Chris

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will come back to you and and learn a little

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bit more about about what you encountered. But Deputy Deputy steedam,

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when did all of this crank crank up? Was it

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just a couple of days ago? Like? When did you

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notice an uptick? And what is account what is currently

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occurring now in Valley County, Nebraska?

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Speaker 4: Once again, yeah, it's been about a few weeks. Just

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out of nowhere, they just started popping up. It came

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kind of in correlation with the new Jersey stuff. As

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soon as that started getting rampant, it kind of seemed

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like everything else was coming up here as well. It

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just kind of followed. But I feel like also the

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more people pay attention, the more they see.

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Speaker 1: So right, yeah, the more they're looking at that. That

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makes sense. Okay, So so so what we've done so

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over you know, really I think the past couple of weeks.

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So so you reached out to us, uh and and

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you began sending us videos of what you were encountering

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almost every night, uh in while on duty. And you

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are the so you are the main the main person

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on on the night shift in Valley County, correct for

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the Sheriff's Department.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's correct.

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, great, Okay, So what we did, uh because

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one of the one of the things that you hear

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the Biden administration say and the Pentagon is that you know, these,

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you know, what is.

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Speaker 1: Being seen in New Jersey are just commercial airplanes that

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are misidentified or law enforcement drones or hobbyist drones. Uh,

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which actually leads me to this question. It just popped

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into my head. Uh how often do you guys see

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hobbyist drones?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 1: In in Valley County?

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Speaker 2: No, not very often.

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Speaker 4: We got I think there's one outfit by Arcadia that

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sprays like their fields and stuff. They do that and

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they make drones. But other than that, it's not really

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a thing over here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So this isn't like people so you know the

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teenagers are flying drones every night? No? Okay, okay, great. So, So,

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as I said, that's been the kind of line we're

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hearing from the Biden administration and others is that they

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think everybody is in New Jersey is just imagining all

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of this, or they're misconstruing airplanes and hobbyist drones and

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law enforcement drones for these things. You know, there's nothing

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to worry here. Uh you know, let's let's let's not

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talk about these things shutting down our air bases. So

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what we did is, uh off off, Deputy Stredam, is

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we took your videos. Your videos we had that, we

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had you send them to us raw. So we have

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all of the metadata. We have the position of the

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latitude longitude of where you were, the exact time and date.

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And then what we did is we went through flight

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radar twenty four and we looked at the historical radar

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data for that exact time and place. So what we're

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going to show you are these videos and on the

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left you'll see what you shot a Deputy Stadum on

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your phone, and then on the right will be the

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radar at that time that you were filming it. So anyway, yeah,

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so feel free to jump in if you have any

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have any commentary. But this is one of the first clips.

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This occurred on December sixteenth at eighteen six standard time.

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And by the way, we did because we know people

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like Mickwest and some of these other debunkers. Just so

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everyone knows the central local time and we converted it

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into uh UTC, which is you know, what's used in aviation.

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So anyway, here is the first clip, and if you

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want to tell us what we're looking at here, please

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feel free.

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Speaker 2: In another road, all right, Yeah, this one here is

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just outside of Ford, Nebraska.

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Speaker 1: This is out or yep.

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Speaker 4: I was just driving down the road and happened to

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see him in the sky and then.

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Speaker 2: I actually caught two here.

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Speaker 4: I think this one intercepts with another one and they

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cross paths.

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Speaker 1: Okay, oh there is I see I see two of

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them blinking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And at this point, I actually I think it's

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talking to Chris, and I was asking him, you know,

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like the determination of hey, is this an airplane or not,

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trying to figure stuff like that out.

479
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't think their airplanes?

480
00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I would, I would say not do any

481
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:13,640
of these feel at all like like they are you know,

482
00:28:13,759 --> 00:28:15,079
sort of conventional drones.

483
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: Well like this one in particular.

484
00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 4: Actually, when it's going, like Chris was saying earlier, it

485
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,200
has contrails that you can barely see on it, so

486
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,200
it's it's it's weird. But at the same time, you

487
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,839
can't hear hearing, like expelling anything like you should be

488
00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:32,440
able to you can't hear anything.

489
00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: Okay, So just it's just baffling.

490
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: Now. Now, uh, this was a part where I didn't

491
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,720
run the radar radar as long as uh as I

492
00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:43,880
should have. But I'm just going to back the clip

493
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,599
up here and as you what I want to point

494
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,559
out here and I'm going to pause. This is ord

495
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,039
is around in the middle of this map. Uh and

496
00:28:55,279 --> 00:29:00,680
this was set i think to one one kilometer resolution. So,

497
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,359
uh so you know, these these airplanes that are in

498
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,160
the top left, they're they're pretty far, they're pretty far out.

499
00:29:08,319 --> 00:29:10,519
And on top of that, uh, you know, I'm having

500
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:12,519
a hard time reading it on my screen. But but

501
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:16,519
those those air aircraft are at around twenty five thousand

502
00:29:16,519 --> 00:29:19,480
feet and and you know, and they're moving in a

503
00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:22,640
straight line. As you can see in your video. These

504
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,559
things are just it looks like they're just kind of

505
00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:25,480
staying in place.

506
00:29:27,839 --> 00:29:29,039
Speaker 2: Community.

507
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh yeah, pretty uh pretty pretty wild. So

508
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,720
So when you when you see these things, do you

509
00:29:39,799 --> 00:29:43,599
think that these are prosaic drones? Do they feel like

510
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,599
it's maybe something not from here? What is your sort

511
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,960
of personal take on where these things might be coming from.

512
00:29:50,759 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely got an eerie feel to it.

513
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 4: After watching multiple of these things fly around, you can

514
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,559
definitely tell that, like it's just not any of the

515
00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:04,359
stuff that we would have in our in our technology,

516
00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:06,759
we don't have anything that advanced the way that they

517
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,559
move and like their maneuver move abilities and the no

518
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:12,240
sound and.

519
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:16,039
Speaker 2: Just the speed of them. They're just astronomically fast.

520
00:30:16,079 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: So you have seen these things go faster than what

521
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,160
you've seen aircraft or drones operate out.

522
00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:23,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

523
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,759
Speaker 4: I tried to get it on camera multiple times, but

524
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,119
you can see them. They'll start in one position and

525
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,519
then they'll kind of do a circle and then they

526
00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:32,039
just go on.

527
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, let's watch the next one. This

528
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,359
was at This was actually the same day on December sixteenth.

529
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,680
The first one was at six oh six pm. And

530
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,160
this is something that occurred at let's see here six

531
00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:53,640
twenty five pm.

532
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:55,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one that really got me going.

533
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,279
Speaker 4: It's going one direction at I believe it's head and west,

534
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:03,279
and then all of a sudden, the lights just shut

535
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:04,720
off completely.

536
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:06,599
Speaker 2: It just went dark, and I was like, WHOA, what

537
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,039
the heck?

538
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,079
Speaker 4: And then it turned directions did like a sharp ninety

539
00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:12,960
and you started coming back my direction, and that's when

540
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,920
I got this video.

541
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,079
Speaker 1: Now, there was a aircraft somewhat overhead at a flight

542
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,000
level three five zero thirty five thousand feet. Do you

543
00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:24,519
recall seeing that airplane as well? Do you think that

544
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:27,319
this could have been that aircraft or more likely not?

545
00:31:28,359 --> 00:31:29,039
Speaker 2: Oh, definitely not.

546
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 4: I didn't even see or hear an aircraft like that

547
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:38,759
second commercial or didn't even see one. And like, yeah,

548
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:41,319
like I said, it did a complete ninety after it

549
00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:43,240
shut off its lights, which you know, if it was

550
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:47,720
it's illegal. If it was, you know, something of our nation,

551
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,359
but it's not. And then then it's a sharp ninety

552
00:31:50,359 --> 00:31:53,680
degrees and the maneuverability that it does, it's it's definitely

553
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,559
not something of ours.

554
00:31:54,759 --> 00:31:57,039
Speaker 1: You know. One thing I just noticed for the first

555
00:31:57,079 --> 00:32:02,039
time is as back this up a little bit. So

556
00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:04,880
there's the one that you're tracking, and then it looks

557
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,200
like there's one coming in from above at the top left.

558
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,839
Speaker 4: Yep, up on the top left, there's another one that's

559
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:14,240
it's a completely different shape and everything. There's no lights

560
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,920
on it, there's no flashing blinking lights. It just looks

561
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,359
like an orb and it's it's going probably five times

562
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:24,839
faster than that big one, and it's way higher and we're.

563
00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:28,279
Speaker 1: Are you able to make out the physical shape? I

564
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:32,319
know when when Chris had his twenty nineteen twenty twenty incidents,

565
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:36,200
he wasn't really law enforcement wasn't able to make out

566
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,119
the shape or structure of the craft. Are you able

567
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,079
to see the structure of the craft or you just

568
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,599
seing lights? Because when I look at this video, it

569
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,039
looks like you can see a bit of the shape.

570
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, on the big one especially, I could see it

571
00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:51,799
a little bit better than what the camera's picking up,

572
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,039
and it kind of looked like like a if Batman's

573
00:32:56,079 --> 00:32:58,400
old throwing star, if you will, it is what it looked.

574
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: What it reminded me of. It just like a like

575
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,640
a U shape with the little point in the middle.

576
00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: Is do you have a way of kind of estimating

577
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:09,279
maybe how big you think that thing was, like the

578
00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:12,680
size of like a Southwest jet or is it difficult

579
00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:14,119
to tell like a.

580
00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:16,839
Speaker 2: Smaller medium sized private airplane?

581
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: Is okay?

582
00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: It was okay? Wow? So it's yeah, it's uh.

583
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:21,319
Speaker 2: It was big.

584
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was bigger.

585
00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: Than my truck.

586
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:24,759
Speaker 1: Say that again.

587
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:27,359
Speaker 2: Sorry, it was definitely bigger than my truck. My patrol vehicle.

588
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: Wow. And and if you were to guess how how

589
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,359
high this was off the ground as in terms of altitude,

590
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,880
what would you estimate that to be?

591
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: Maybe two three thousand feet okay?

592
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: Okay, so not not one hundred to two hundred like

593
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:46,759
Chris experienced. Okay, so so as much higher? Okay, Okay,

594
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:48,880
let's we're going to move on to the next one. Here.

595
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,920
This is the following day, December seventeenth, at six point

596
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:59,200
fifty four pm. And again, for privacy reasons, I didn't

597
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,720
want to put it zatactly where you were on the

598
00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:04,279
map when you took these. We do have the exact

599
00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:08,679
latitude longitude, but suffice it to say in the very

600
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:12,000
middle of that map is ORed and you are in that,

601
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:17,480
in that vicinity. Okay, So here's the next one. And

602
00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:29,960
what are we looking at here? I lusia, Chris, do

603
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:30,719
we lose you there?

604
00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:32,639
Speaker 3: No, I'm still here.

605
00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: Let's see jay Yan looks like he's looks like he's frozen. Okay,

606
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,559
so hopefully he is going to reconnect. I'm just going

607
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:47,760
to shoot him a message in say resume disconnected and

608
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:53,519
please reconnect. Okay. So yeah, so again you see, you

609
00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:57,679
know there's one aircraft that's pretty high up. Both of

610
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:04,320
these are our airliners. But yeah, it just does not

611
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:09,400
look like that. It just yeah, it just doesn't look

612
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,119
like anything prosaic. You know, these you know, these videos

613
00:35:14,159 --> 00:35:18,079
of course, are are difficult to make out because you know,

614
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:20,440
it's you're shooting in the dark. It's like shooting in

615
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,480
the you know, shooting the moon with your cell phone.

616
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:25,960
That rarely comes out well. But again, you can see

617
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,599
from the radar data, like even at this point, you know,

618
00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:32,239
up at the top right, you see something moving and

619
00:35:33,039 --> 00:35:35,840
you don't see any sort of traditional red and green

620
00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:40,320
nave lights. But when you look at the radar, the

621
00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:43,840
historical radar, and I'm starting this clip over again, you

622
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,360
know you only have those two very high aircraft. You

623
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:52,039
don't see anything up around up around five five thousand,

624
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,320
five thousand feet. So let's see here, so we still

625
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:02,280
do not have jay officer Stephen back. So Chris, let's

626
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,599
let's take a break from the videos. What you know,

627
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:11,239
what do when you encountered your drone? And of course

628
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,480
we have an officer a Stephen there on the right, uh,

629
00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:19,239
frozen in time. Tell us about that experience. What exactly occurred?

630
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,320
Were you responding to a call. Were you out in

631
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,920
the middle of nowhere? What was the weather like? Was

632
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,039
was a quiet walk us through that whole experience.

633
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. So my my one big personal experience I had

634
00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:39,840
was late December, I think I think of about the

635
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,920
twenty eighth of December. I was actually home and my

636
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,320
sheriff called me and said, hey, the little town that's

637
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,880
south of Valley County called Scotia. It's just southeast of

638
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,559
North Loop, which is in my county, about two and

639
00:36:57,559 --> 00:37:01,199
a half miles he could. He called me and said, hey,

640
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:07,000
there's a lot of drone activity circling town. People are

641
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,199
counting upwards of eleven to fifteen of these things. So

642
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,760
if you could go hop in your truck and go

643
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,320
take a look at it, because he was at the

644
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,880
time currently busy with something else, and I said, yeah,

645
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:22,960
I'll hop in. So I got my work truck and

646
00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:25,079
from where I was at it was about a thirteen

647
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:30,440
mile drive. I came to Highway twenty two Highway eleven

648
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:34,079
junction right outside of North Loop about three quarters of

649
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:37,159
a mile. And when I got to the Highway twenty

650
00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:41,360
two Highway eleven junction, you know, I went to go look, look, left,

651
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,920
and I noticed the co op tower, which is about

652
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,159
three quarters of a mile north of my position, which

653
00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:51,320
would be to my left, and I said, you know, well,

654
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:54,880
there's a there's a light to the east of the

655
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,960
co op light. That's not the co op light. So

656
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,159
I looked right and as I look right, noticed no

657
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:02,480
traff or anything coming. I looked back left, and by

658
00:38:02,519 --> 00:38:04,320
the time I had looked back left, that thing was

659
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,280
right in front of my wind shoe and at the

660
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,239
co op tower. To my location is about three quarters

661
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,960
of a mile and it covered three quarters of a

662
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:17,000
mile in that two to three four seconds.

663
00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: With and when you looked at this thing and we

664
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:26,679
deputy is coming back on. Was was the light like

665
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,239
anything unique? Like? Was it was it brighter than like

666
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,719
a regular drone? Like? Was it like a welding arc? Like?

667
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,760
What was? Was there anything that did not seem right

668
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,679
about it that would lead you to lead you to

669
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,599
believe that it may not be from from you know,

670
00:38:41,639 --> 00:38:42,320
anything here?

671
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. Actually, you know the comment that you made during

672
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,199
our interview about the welding arc that that pretty much

673
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,480
kind of put it exactly to what it looked like

674
00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:59,840
to me. It just it wasn't blinding you know, because

675
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,559
it was one hundred and fifty hundred feet up the air.

676
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:07,719
It wasn't as far as a straight line distance. It

677
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,639
wasn't very far away. It literally probably was on the

678
00:39:11,679 --> 00:39:14,920
other side of the highway. They just passed the railroad tracks,

679
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,119
which are fairly close in that area to the highway.

680
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,360
But it was, Yeah, it was like a welding arc light.

681
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:28,559
It just if you've ever welded. It was bright, but

682
00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:30,800
it didn't blind me. I didn't need to cover my eyes.

683
00:39:31,079 --> 00:39:34,079
I didn't need to throw on some cool looking glasses.

684
00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:39,960
It was just a light. It was a reddish orange.

685
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,159
It didn't have a shape. I couldn't tell if it

686
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:49,119
had wings, if there were windows. It was just a light.

687
00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:54,039
And the other thing was is just how fast it

688
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:56,760
went by me. I just I still to this day,

689
00:39:57,679 --> 00:40:01,440
I'm flabbergasted by it. And and you know, when I

690
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,119
had turned to start heading south down Highway eleven towards Scotia,

691
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:09,679
it wasn't in sight very long. My line of sight

692
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:13,960
is another probably five or six miles before you start

693
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:19,079
hitting the chalk mines and the sand hills. But it

694
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:21,760
went out of you pretty quick. And even as I

695
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,599
had made it to that bridge that goes over the

696
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:28,159
North Loop River to go into Scotia. I did stop

697
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,360
right at the bridge because it kind of opens up

698
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,280
there to where there's no trees in front of me,

699
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,119
so if I jumped up on the hood or in

700
00:40:35,159 --> 00:40:37,280
the back of my truck, I could get a little

701
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:43,360
bit better view. And it was it was gone, and

702
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,000
those other folks had pulled up next to me, and

703
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:48,880
I made the comment, please tell me you guys saw that,

704
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,119
and they saw it, and of course the sheriff saw it,

705
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:57,000
which where he lived at that time, he would have

706
00:40:57,039 --> 00:40:59,119
either had it fly right over the top of him

707
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:00,920
or us to his beast.

708
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: Okay, and I'm going to have you tell us what

709
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:08,800
the sheriff encountered in a bit. Deputy. Thanks thanks for

710
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,119
making it back on and getting your zoom connection going again.

711
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,000
So I'm curious as well. Did when you've seen these things?

712
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 5: Uh?

713
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: Chris Grooms just said that these these were often like

714
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,239
as bright as like looking at a welding arc. Have

715
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,400
you encountered anything like that?

716
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:31,559
Speaker 2: No, not particularly. I mean you can definitely pick.

717
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,599
Speaker 4: Them out when they're up in the sky that they're

718
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:36,039
they're a lot brighter, and then they flash and they

719
00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:40,360
change colors. They almost look like stars, except they're way brighter.

720
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,480
And then if you pay attention to them, then they'll

721
00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:44,480
start to move and you can you know, since you're

722
00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:46,280
watching them, you can notice and do these things. But

723
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:50,400
never never anything bright and intense like like he experienced.

724
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's watch the next uh next tape here?

725
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,360
Uh so, yeah, what are we looking at here? This is?

726
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:04,679
This is on to December seventeenth at let's see seven

727
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:05,559
oh two pm.

728
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, just another just another drone just blinking and going.

729
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,760
I got I got a bunch of these. And the

730
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:15,920
crazy part of it is there's sometimes that I could

731
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,920
be videoing and I could see you or you could

732
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,119
see whoever's watching multiples of these things just in one

733
00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:22,800
phone screen.

734
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,599
Speaker 2: You can capture three or four of them at a times.

735
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes well, and you know, and looking at this again,

736
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:31,480
when you look at the radar and ord would be

737
00:42:31,679 --> 00:42:35,880
in the middle, you have one jet at it looks

738
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,920
like twenty nine thirty thousand feet, But this drone seems

739
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,280
to be staying in relatively the same position. It's not

740
00:42:45,039 --> 00:42:47,880
it's not moving like you see on the on the radar.

741
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:49,840
Is that does that sound right?

742
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 3: Yeah?

743
00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: That's about right.

744
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 4: And a lot of the times, most of the times

745
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,039
it looks like these things are going in like a

746
00:42:55,079 --> 00:43:00,239
grid line pattern, like they and they don't really hear

747
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,519
from it much, but when they do then it's just

748
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,320
erratic and not not a way the pilot would be

749
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,880
going or even an Unmann drone.

750
00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that thing is really pretty, really pretty bright.

751
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,920
And and and again this is about five thousand feet

752
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,440
you would say, yeah, about five okay, yeah, and again

753
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,039
that single jetliner and you're looking at the exact radar

754
00:43:24,199 --> 00:43:29,239
traffic that occurred at the time. There's there's one airplane

755
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,079
in the sky and it's and it's way way up.

756
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,760
So yeah, there you go. Okay, let's let's watch another here.

757
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:43,960
This this is the same same night, December seventeenth, and

758
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,519
a little bit later than seven. Now is this is

759
00:43:46,559 --> 00:43:49,639
this the same one as the previous clip about ten

760
00:43:49,679 --> 00:43:52,119
minutes earlier or did this come in?

761
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:53,599
Speaker 2: Nope?

762
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 4: Every video that I took was of a different, different

763
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,559
place and or a different drone.

764
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:03,199
Speaker 1: And this one looks like it's kind of stationary.

765
00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 3: YEP.

766
00:44:05,519 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: One of them in particular that I can remember.

767
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 4: It just sat in one spot and it did not

768
00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:12,360
move for like fifteen minutes, and then it would blink on,

769
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,400
fade in, fade out, and then it just wouldn't be

770
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,239
there anymore, whether it turned its lights off permanently or

771
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,079
it took off and I just didn't catch it.

772
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, well the thing to note here, I mean,

773
00:44:26,039 --> 00:44:29,519
there's one aircraft entering way off in the distance, but

774
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,519
the radar above ord is there are no airplanes. You know,

775
00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:39,840
periods there are there are are, yeah, there are there

776
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:44,239
are none. Okay, you're gonna watch another one here. So

777
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:49,639
this is on December eighteenth, seven thirty pm, so relatively

778
00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:53,480
the same time. Now I cranked up the exposure here

779
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:56,320
a little bit. Again, there's only one aircraft in the sky,

780
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:01,280
and that's I think thirty eight thousand. Is there anything

781
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,760
in particular that caught your eye about this particular one,

782
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,719
because it looks like there's more than one. I think

783
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,000
I see another one flashing.

784
00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is one of those times where there was

785
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,400
multiple of them in one frame. Nothing really in particular,

786
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:20,079
especially nowadays, after these last long three weeks, it's almost

787
00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:22,400
routine now for me to be seeing this many And

788
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:24,840
I just popped out the camera.

789
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: Now this is a go to Now so's to get

790
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,519
them out.

791
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 1: And do these make any noise, like do you hear

792
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,880
any jet engines or anything?

793
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:36,039
Speaker 2: No?

794
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely nothing. And that blows my mind too, because

795
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,440
some of these things, regardless of how high they are,

796
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,199
even if they were up at commercial airline flight like altitude,

797
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,000
you can hear those suckers when they're going that fast,

798
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,480
and these things can just zoom across the sky and

799
00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:53,800
you hear Nothing's.

800
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: So there's absolutely no sound coming from these things. And

801
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,800
is an Ord Nebraska? And again, just knowing that the

802
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,719
population is only a couple of thousand, I take it,

803
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,880
and the question to you both, I take it that

804
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,440
there's pretty much nothing in terms of like light pollution

805
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,800
or ambient sound.

806
00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's ah. You get outside of Org

807
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,800
and it's when you're when it's night and you get

808
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,719
outside of Ord, it's dark. That's why we have a

809
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,440
lot of uh car collision with deer accidents because it's

810
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,000
so dark you just you don't see them until they're

811
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:30,440
right there.

812
00:46:31,199 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: Okay, and sorry, and Deputy Steedhum you would agree with that.

813
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely.

814
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,559
Speaker 4: You don't even have to get but a half a

815
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:40,039
mile outside of town and it's dark, dark.

816
00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: And when you uh, you know, you talked about like

817
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,480
crop dusters and whatnot. So you'll you'll see those aircraft

818
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:52,639
operating during the day, but at night, do you see

819
00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:54,320
any in the way of private aircraft?

820
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,559
Speaker 2: Nope, we don't normally.

821
00:46:56,639 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 4: Before all this especially, we never had any like I

822
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,000
don't even recall a single time CD thing flying at night.

823
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: Okay at all?

824
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:10,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely travel, say that again, Chris, I was just

825
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:12,800
going to say, let alone, even car travel after ten pm.

826
00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:16,480
It dies about the only vehicles out or law enforcement

827
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,760
other than your select you coming through, passing to go

828
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,639
through to a different town or something like that.

829
00:47:22,119 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: So Chris, walk us through the story that you told

830
00:47:25,679 --> 00:47:31,239
about about what the sheriff at the time encountered. Walk

831
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,960
us through that what occurred. You know, we reached out

832
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,599
to the sheriff and we were hoping that that he

833
00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:39,920
would come on the show, but he declined. So fill

834
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,559
us in on what what you were told when you

835
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:46,159
were a deputy for Valley County and what the sheriff encountered.

836
00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so a county just two counties over from us.

837
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,559
The sheriff over there I've been in contact with for

838
00:47:56,599 --> 00:47:59,119
a couple of years now, whether or just you know,

839
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,440
to to shoot the ship or we talk law enforcement.

840
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,960
And he reached out to me about an incident they

841
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,599
had and this was back years ago. He didn't just

842
00:48:10,639 --> 00:48:12,480
come to me with this. This has been a while.

843
00:48:14,519 --> 00:48:17,320
So back in twenty nineteen, him and two of his

844
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,280
deputies were out and about on control and they got

845
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,519
called to something in the sky and they went to

846
00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:28,199
go intervene and investigate it, and they come upon it.

847
00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:31,599
It was up in the sky, not very high, you know,

848
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:36,719
that one hundred feet area elevation, and they started to

849
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,840
pursue it, and like the other ones that we encountered,

850
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,760
it just paralleled the gravel roads. It wouldn't go off

851
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,760
in any direction. It wanted them to know that they

852
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,360
were seen by this thing, but yet it almost wanted

853
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,719
them to continue to pursue it. So as they continue

854
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,199
to pursue it down the gravel roads, it actually went

855
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,920
back towards the highway, and as they got towards the highway,

856
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,639
it began to move down and parallel the highway. So

857
00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:09,119
they got on the highway continued to pursue it. The

858
00:49:09,159 --> 00:49:11,480
sheriff made the comment to me and his suberban, which

859
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:14,480
was his patrol truck at that time that he was

860
00:49:14,559 --> 00:49:17,679
almost you know, maxed out or was maxed out around

861
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,519
one hundred and twenty miles an hour, and it wasn't

862
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,039
they weren't able to catch it. But yet at the

863
00:49:23,039 --> 00:49:26,760
same time, it wasn't pulling away from them, but it

864
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,199
wasn't he they couldn't catch it, if that makes any sense.

865
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,639
It was staying far enough away from them, but at

866
00:49:32,639 --> 00:49:34,679
the same time it still wanted. It was like toying

867
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,960
with them. And eventually it came to kind of a

868
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,320
stop and moved off into like a creek bed or

869
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,920
over a little river that was right there to the

870
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:48,559
north of their location, and they went to go spotlight

871
00:49:48,639 --> 00:49:50,920
it with their search lights. And as they went to

872
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,960
go spotlight it with their searchlights, it not being very

873
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,559
high in the sky, shined a huge light back down

874
00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:00,239
on them. And the way that the sheriff described to

875
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,599
me is if it was almost daylight in all directions

876
00:50:03,679 --> 00:50:07,159
left right, in every direction that he looked, it seemed

877
00:50:07,199 --> 00:50:10,920
like it was daylight. And he said it covered anywhere

878
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,760
from one hundred and fifty to three hundred yards in

879
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,519
all directions, and he said it made no noise. That

880
00:50:17,639 --> 00:50:19,280
was the other thing that freaked him out was that

881
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,400
it made no noise, and those other two deputies were

882
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,039
with him and they also were a part of it,

883
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:30,400
and it just left, it took off. They couldn't find

884
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,320
it no more they could track it. I don't know

885
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,159
how much longer after that incident happened that the sheriff

886
00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:39,559
called down to the airport in Grand Island, which is

887
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,920
basically our bigger regional airport that has flights out of

888
00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:48,239
you know, Phoenix, mece Arizona, Las Vegas, that type stuff,

889
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,079
So they have some big flights that come out of there.

890
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:52,760
But it was that night that he called down there,

891
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,280
and I assume it was pretty much right after he

892
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,840
had his encounter, just by the way he was talking

893
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,719
to me, and when he called down to the airport

894
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,800
and asked him, hey, are you guys tracking anything on

895
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,440
your radar? You know, they made the comment to him, no,

896
00:51:06,519 --> 00:51:09,480
we don't. We don't see what's on where you're at.

897
00:51:09,519 --> 00:51:13,800
We don't see anything like that on our radar. And

898
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,920
that airport, I think that anything below three thousand feet

899
00:51:19,519 --> 00:51:22,840
they don't see. So could they have just not been

900
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,239
seeing it because it was so low, I don't know,

901
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:30,320
but he he was a little. I don't want to

902
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:31,920
say he was shaken up by it, but you could

903
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,280
tell in his voice that he had he had seen

904
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,440
something that really shocked him.

905
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: Did did he ever say if he did he have

906
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,519
any theories as to what he saw? Does does he

907
00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:46,199
think it did he think it was from a foreign adversary,

908
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,719
or did he share any thoughts.

909
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:55,159
Speaker 3: We never really talked about that. He's a he's a

910
00:51:55,199 --> 00:51:58,719
busy guy. The dude's running running a county. He runs

911
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:03,280
his own business. He stays busy. So we didn't have

912
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,880
a huge conversation about what we thought or what he

913
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,559
thought it could have been, other than you know, dude,

914
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,920
what do we do about this? We we need somebody

915
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,320
to get out here and figure this out. And that's

916
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,559
pretty much what we do talk about. Is when is

917
00:52:22,599 --> 00:52:24,920
somebody out here that knows what this stuff is, or

918
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,039
that somebody has an idea of what it is, come

919
00:52:28,079 --> 00:52:30,639
out here and talk to us out here in Nebraska.

920
00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:34,199
Because this stuff has been going on way before New Jersey,

921
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,559
and I feel for those I feel for those folks

922
00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:40,239
in New Jersey, the mayors and stuff. I wish I

923
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,000
could get in contact with him to talk to him,

924
00:52:42,119 --> 00:52:44,239
let him know you know, we dealt with it back

925
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,119
in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, and where where they're at

926
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,119
right now? We're getting the run.

927
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: Around, understood, Okay, Deputy Steedham, Let's play one of your

928
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:59,440
other clips here. This is from let's see December eighteenth

929
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:06,800
at forty nine pm. Now again, it looks like I'm

930
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:12,320
seeing two things here, one at the bottom right. And yeah,

931
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,519
so I walk us through again what we're seeing, and

932
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:18,119
I would I would point out in the radar there

933
00:53:18,199 --> 00:53:22,960
is absolutely no air traffic overhead, zero zilch.

934
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,199
Speaker 4: And it actually ended up turning its turning its direction

935
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,920
coming back at me again after in this video, after

936
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,679
I ended the video, and it was it was just strange.

937
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,480
It kind of stayed and hovered right above me and

938
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,639
then just disappeared.

939
00:53:36,159 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: Is at the bottom of the screen I see another

940
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,480
sort of point of light. Is that a star? Or

941
00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:43,559
is that another drone?

942
00:53:46,199 --> 00:53:48,039
Speaker 4: That I think that was actually one of them that

943
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,519
was it looks just like a star, like a lot

944
00:53:50,519 --> 00:53:53,480
of them do. But that one we're in particular return

945
00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:56,320
from that colored is now too, more of an orange

946
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,320
ish and like off color.

947
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,519
Speaker 2: And then it would just flicker like that. But it

948
00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:03,360
was pretty stationary, so I froze the video.

949
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 1: Here. If you look at the bottom of the video,

950
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,880
you see you see the point of light that was

951
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,320
flashing before. And I'm actually going to back this up

952
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,519
because you're going to see another one flying in just

953
00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:18,800
to the right. It's blinking on and off sort of

954
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,840
at the top right. How often do you see this

955
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,719
sort of thing where they'll just one will show up,

956
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,840
and then a few minutes later others will appear.

957
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,119
Speaker 4: All the time, it could be completely dead out and

958
00:54:30,119 --> 00:54:32,199
then all of a sudden you see one, and then

959
00:54:32,199 --> 00:54:34,599
when you see one, it's like when you at least

960
00:54:34,639 --> 00:54:37,480
for me anyway, when I start recording these things, there's

961
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:41,039
just I'm just surrounded. Anywhere I look, I can find

962
00:54:41,039 --> 00:54:42,679
one at any given time.

963
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:48,679
Speaker 1: And again pointing out the historical radar data, which the

964
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,239
ADSB data, you do see one aircraft now coming in.

965
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,280
I think it's flight level two nine zero. But for

966
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,800
the first half of this video there was absolutely nothing

967
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,440
on screen. And are these things, you know? I can't

968
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,360
really tell the elevation of the camera are you. Are

969
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,880
you looking at like a forty five degree angle or

970
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,559
almost straight up? It looks like there's the horizon line there.

971
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm about it.

972
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 4: It's about a forty five degree angle went on the

973
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:23,039
i'd say the northeast of town North Loot, Nebraska.

974
00:55:23,639 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: But and and again it's like, you know, you see

975
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,519
one aircraft in the sky, and and that's at a

976
00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:33,920
very high altitude, and it wasn't there in the beginning,

977
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:38,840
and you have multiple targets here flashing flashing on and off.

978
00:55:39,199 --> 00:55:42,719
It's uh, yeah, I mean, it's just it makes no

979
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,639
sense that it would be it would be an an aircraft.

980
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,440
And again with this one, there were no there were

981
00:55:50,639 --> 00:55:52,599
no engine sounds or anything of that nature.

982
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:54,119
Speaker 2: No nothing.

983
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 4: And just as the other ones, like the select you

984
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,320
times that there is actually a an actual commercial aircraft

985
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,920
or something up in the sky. I don't even recall

986
00:56:04,119 --> 00:56:07,559
a single time actually seeing those from where I was.

987
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,599
Speaker 1: Now, I just caught this a second ago. Is this

988
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,719
what this larger point of light? Is this another one

989
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,599
of them? Or is this a street light or the

990
00:56:17,639 --> 00:56:18,639
moon or something else?

991
00:56:19,679 --> 00:56:23,039
Speaker 4: That one Actually it's a yard light out in the

992
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,400
out by actually a farmer's house.

993
00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:28,039
Speaker 2: So okay, it just constantly blinks.

994
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: Oh got it? Okay, all right, so that's.

995
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, you'd ignore that one.

996
00:56:31,559 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, great, okay, So there's so that these were

997
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,639
all on December eighteenth, around eight pm. And then here's

998
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:50,159
another one this what about ten minutes later? And again

999
00:56:50,159 --> 00:56:53,440
I'm going to pause the video. Here you've got one

1000
00:56:53,519 --> 00:56:56,800
aircraft at I think it's a flight level three four zero,

1001
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:02,400
so thirty four thousand feet off in the distance. Any

1002
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:05,440
chance that this could be that jet? Or when you're

1003
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,679
looking at it, it's obvious this is not. Well, I

1004
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,440
see two of them, so again more than one.

1005
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's multiples.

1006
00:57:13,159 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 4: I never and I wouldn't even get my camera out

1007
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,280
if I even had the slightest inkling that it was

1008
00:57:18,679 --> 00:57:19,559
one of our planes.

1009
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: And it's obvious to you, as a trained observer, what

1010
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,679
is what is an aircraft a conventional aircraft or drone

1011
00:57:27,719 --> 00:57:30,920
and what is not? And in your opinion, these are

1012
00:57:31,079 --> 00:57:36,079
neither yep, okay, neither okay, And I'm going to back

1013
00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:39,400
this up a little bit. You know, so there, you

1014
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,159
know that one's pretty bright there, that one's obviously obviously moving,

1015
00:57:43,679 --> 00:57:45,599
and then it looks like there was just one to

1016
00:57:45,639 --> 00:57:48,679
the left. I mean there there are It's insane how

1017
00:57:48,719 --> 00:57:51,519
many how many of these things you know there are?

1018
00:57:51,719 --> 00:57:57,800
It's it's it's it's crazy. Are you in the Sheriff's department.

1019
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,239
Are you guys receiving nine to one one calls at all?

1020
00:58:00,559 --> 00:58:03,119
Regarding these drones? They look pretty high up, so I

1021
00:58:03,159 --> 00:58:03,679
don't know why.

1022
00:58:03,719 --> 00:58:08,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, we haven't recently, but probably about two months ago now,

1023
00:58:08,599 --> 00:58:10,800
we had a call out there was one that was

1024
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,519
just hovering out in someone's backyard, just a local farmer's backyard,

1025
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:17,639
and I actually ended up ended up chasing it for

1026
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,400
miles down like minimum maintenance roads, and I never never

1027
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,079
could get close enough to actually like see something to

1028
00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:27,159
be able to describe it like in shape or anything.

1029
00:58:27,159 --> 00:58:28,840
You could just see the light and it would just

1030
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,039
go away, Like Chris said, it would go straight with

1031
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:33,599
the road. At one point, when I first got into

1032
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:35,360
the minim maintenance road, I didn't even really know where

1033
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,920
I was because I was just kind of in the

1034
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,360
heat of the moment, but it almost led me onto

1035
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,519
the road and I just kept following it and then

1036
00:58:42,599 --> 00:58:44,199
it just disappeared turned its lights off.

1037
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: And how so this particular incident, how low do you

1038
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:50,800
think it was to the ground.

1039
00:58:52,719 --> 00:58:54,199
Speaker 2: At that one where I seen it.

1040
00:58:54,639 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 4: I believe it was lower when it was called in

1041
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,039
it was actually one of our dispatchers that.

1042
00:58:58,119 --> 00:59:00,079
Speaker 2: Called me and told me about it.

1043
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 4: It was lower than but when I seen it, it

1044
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:06,079
was probably stixty eighty feet off the ground and it

1045
00:59:06,119 --> 00:59:09,639
stayed between there and about one hundred feet until it

1046
00:59:09,679 --> 00:59:10,920
disappeared over the horizon.

1047
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,559
Speaker 1: How large would you estimate this object to be?

1048
00:59:17,039 --> 00:59:19,119
Speaker 2: Probably just a little smaller than an sev.

1049
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,719
Speaker 1: Okay, and so this thing is a little bit smaller

1050
00:59:23,719 --> 00:59:25,800
than an suv. Did it make any noise?

1051
00:59:26,679 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 2: Nope? Nothing?

1052
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:33,239
Speaker 1: Wow? Crazy. We have a question here, a question with

1053
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:37,079
all the videos pictures online, do you see any correlation

1054
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:41,920
to what you both have personally witnessed and documented? Is

1055
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:47,000
there a correlation to what you're hearing from is going

1056
00:59:47,039 --> 00:59:49,559
on in New Jersey and elsewhere? And videos and photos?

1057
00:59:50,159 --> 00:59:53,239
Do these look similar to what you guys have witnessed yourself?

1058
00:59:54,039 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: I believe so. Some of the things that I've seen.

1059
00:59:57,199 --> 00:59:59,239
Speaker 4: One of the videos that I've seen online up there

1060
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:02,920
almost reminded me of what I was trying to describe

1061
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,039
on that first video there sin that we looked at

1062
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:07,760
with the big one, they went right over top me

1063
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,679
after that ninety degree They looked almost identical to that,

1064
01:00:11,719 --> 01:00:14,519
And that's what reminded me of the Batman's Throwing Star.

1065
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:16,679
Speaker 1: How about you, Chris.

1066
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 3: As far as some of the videos I've seen, what

1067
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,840
I was told through witness testimony or by other deputies,

1068
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:33,239
they are similar based off the color of the of

1069
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,800
the lights or you know what you're hearing about. They

1070
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,079
just go dark, they shut their lights off. That was

1071
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,119
That was pretty That happened a lot out here in

1072
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:47,440
twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, where they would just disappear, they

1073
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,960
shut their lights off. And I don't know if I

1074
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,920
could bring this up real quick about one of the

1075
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,960
deputies that I gave you his contact info. I know

1076
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,280
you reached out to him. I'm not going to say

1077
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,920
his name or whatever. Were you know where he worked.

1078
01:01:02,239 --> 01:01:04,519
He doesn't want me to, but I know you did

1079
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:08,880
talk to him about this as well. Correct, while he

1080
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,119
was on duty, he got called to one of these

1081
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:16,880
situations and when he got on scene, he noticed them

1082
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,079
up in the sky and he counted about six to

1083
01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:22,519
eight of these things in a single formation. It wasn't starlink.

1084
01:01:22,599 --> 01:01:25,079
I know starlink came out in twenty nineteen, I think,

1085
01:01:25,159 --> 01:01:28,119
but these weren't starlink. They were low, they were sixty

1086
01:01:28,159 --> 01:01:30,639
feet up. They were a bright light, and they were

1087
01:01:30,679 --> 01:01:33,320
all in a single formation. And as they continued to

1088
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,320
move in a single formation away from him, he pursued

1089
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,480
alongside them, and as they got to a point in

1090
01:01:39,519 --> 01:01:43,159
the sky, every single one of the lights shut off

1091
01:01:43,239 --> 01:01:46,599
in that same spot. So as one light shut off,

1092
01:01:46,679 --> 01:01:49,000
the next one would hit that same spot it would

1093
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,599
shut off, and all of them just disappeared in that

1094
01:01:51,719 --> 01:01:55,360
same exact spot. And they were sixty seventy feet in

1095
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:56,800
the air, and they were bright lights.

1096
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't starlink and no reported sad out right correct, Yeah, amazing.

1097
01:02:04,239 --> 01:02:07,320
Another question here from Terrence Will's question for you both,

1098
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:11,639
was the light self contained or shining off of trees

1099
01:02:11,719 --> 01:02:14,920
or structures? Thank you for your service. So in other words,

1100
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,599
you know, like if if you know, if I had

1101
01:02:17,639 --> 01:02:21,760
a lantern and I'm walking around in my backyard, obviously

1102
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,800
the lantern is going to be bright, and it's going

1103
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:28,800
to illuminate the objects around it. And when you when

1104
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,360
the two of you have had close encounters with these

1105
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:36,320
things at a low altitude, did they seem to illuminate

1106
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,079
the environment? Chris, We'll start with you.

1107
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 3: Well, the one that I the one that I saw

1108
01:02:42,639 --> 01:02:48,800
it didn't illuminate you know, me, It didn't illuminate my vehicle.

1109
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:54,760
Could it have been illuminating the ground, possibly, But it

1110
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:58,320
was so fast that from what I could tell, there

1111
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,119
was no directional, formal light coming off of it. It

1112
01:03:01,199 --> 01:03:04,199
was just a big bright light in the sky. And

1113
01:03:05,199 --> 01:03:07,639
like I said, it's mind boggling.

1114
01:03:08,239 --> 01:03:12,239
Speaker 1: Deputy Stephen, you were shaking your head, yes as well.

1115
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 4: Yep, same thing. It just kind of was there, if

1116
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,760
that makes any sense. It wasn't shining anywhere anywhere any

1117
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,000
one direction. It was bright, but to me, it just

1118
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:26,719
wasn't bright enough to actually like shine on anything and

1119
01:03:27,239 --> 01:03:31,159
illuminate anything. It doesn't make any sense. It's just for

1120
01:03:31,239 --> 01:03:33,639
how bright it was that it wasn't lighting up other

1121
01:03:33,679 --> 01:03:34,920
parts of ground or whatever.

1122
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:36,679
Speaker 3: But it didn't.

1123
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:42,559
Speaker 1: Another question from a Carl pure Marini. Sorry but I'm

1124
01:03:42,599 --> 01:03:47,360
bad about last names. Were there any smells involved, like

1125
01:03:47,519 --> 01:03:50,760
ozone or kind of like what you would smell with

1126
01:03:51,639 --> 01:03:56,199
electrical sparks or arcing, any anything of that nature, anything

1127
01:03:56,239 --> 01:03:57,920
odd that you either of you smelled.

1128
01:03:59,679 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 3: No, not not with anything that I either investigated or

1129
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:05,199
witnessed myself.

1130
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's let's roll another tape. This is

1131
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:15,119
from December twenty first at six o eight p m.

1132
01:04:15,719 --> 01:04:19,519
And we're going to roll this one. Now this is

1133
01:04:19,559 --> 01:04:27,519
what Yeah, so this is right at sunset. Then if

1134
01:04:27,559 --> 01:04:32,079
you can see it there, yeah, okay, there we go.

1135
01:04:32,119 --> 01:04:36,280
Now we're seeing I think on the left there, well yeah, sorry,

1136
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,599
at the bottom you've seen the blinking, blinking points of

1137
01:04:38,679 --> 01:04:43,840
light that one I think may be a star. Deputy

1138
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,079
seed them. Does this ring a bell? I know you've

1139
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:48,079
sent so many of these videos, it's got to be

1140
01:04:48,119 --> 01:04:48,920
hard to keep track.

1141
01:04:49,639 --> 01:04:51,639
Speaker 2: I'm actually having trouble seeing the video.

1142
01:04:52,519 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, it's a little bit difficult to see.

1143
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,639
But in a couple of places, you know, you do

1144
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:03,000
see lights flashing, and again I would point out on

1145
01:05:03,159 --> 01:05:07,239
the historical radar data there is you know, there's there's

1146
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,960
nothing there. Let me play another one here. I think

1147
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,280
this one's a little a little easier to see.

1148
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,079
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, this one is actually off of my security

1149
01:05:21,079 --> 01:05:22,840
camera that I just put on last night.

1150
01:05:23,559 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 2: I believe I put it out front of my house. Okay,

1151
01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:28,159
so this is actually from.

1152
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 4: My residence here. It caught me in the middle of

1153
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,079
the night. I had an emotion alert and my camera

1154
01:05:35,159 --> 01:05:37,199
is like the track too, So they'll go to whatever

1155
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,559
set them off, and they'll they'll follow them, and it

1156
01:05:40,639 --> 01:05:42,280
actually went to this spot and then it just kept

1157
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,079
recording these lights, drones, whatever you want to call them,

1158
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,719
and they would actually go in and out like the

1159
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,639
brighter dimmer, brighter dimmer. They would disappear, they would come

1160
01:05:52,639 --> 01:05:56,440
back on in completely different spots. Multiples of them would

1161
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,960
show up on there. This this one is just mind boggle.

1162
01:06:00,599 --> 01:06:02,599
Speaker 1: I think when I look at this, I think this

1163
01:06:02,679 --> 01:06:04,320
may have been one of your cell phones, because it

1164
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,400
does look like the picture is moving, but one of

1165
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,119
the one of the next ones, or the one I

1166
01:06:10,159 --> 01:06:14,599
think after the next one i'll show, is definitely your

1167
01:06:14,679 --> 01:06:18,760
from your security camera. So let's watch this is again

1168
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:26,760
on December twenty first, nine to twelve pm. Well, this

1169
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,159
may have been the same one. I'm so I apologize. Yeah,

1170
01:06:29,159 --> 01:06:32,480
this is this is the same one. Let's watch what

1171
01:06:32,559 --> 01:06:36,719
I think is from your security camera. Okay, yeah, yep,

1172
01:06:37,559 --> 01:06:39,360
there I go. Wow.

1173
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is just mind boggling you seeing then the

1174
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,559
multiples of them. And I am I am albeit speeding

1175
01:06:46,559 --> 01:06:49,039
this up a little bit. You can see the time

1176
01:06:49,079 --> 01:06:51,719
down there on the bottom left. I'm speeding it up

1177
01:06:51,719 --> 01:06:53,559
a little bit. So you can see how much they move.

1178
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,960
But they do this a little bit slower, but when

1179
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:58,519
you speed it up, it just puts it all into

1180
01:06:58,519 --> 01:07:00,079
perspective what's actually.

1181
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 5: Going going on.

1182
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 2: And it's, like I said, to mind boggling.

1183
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:07,239
Speaker 1: That is truly, that is definitely definitely mind boggling. That's

1184
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:12,039
I mean this this is not sort of multiple aircraft

1185
01:07:12,239 --> 01:07:16,880
or falling stars or anything like that. And and this

1186
01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:20,760
is yet another one that you sent. There's no radar,

1187
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,719
no aircraft up in the sky. This is yet another

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01:07:24,159 --> 01:07:27,079
I think another recording, So the same sort of the

1189
01:07:27,119 --> 01:07:27,840
same sort of thing.

1190
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:35,599
Speaker 2: Correct, yep, same exact thing, just doing different stuff. It's wow.

1191
01:07:36,199 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh yeah, it's I mean, this is this

1192
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:44,440
is definitely definitely compelling. And and again I would point

1193
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:48,559
out that and would you both agree that these videos

1194
01:07:48,599 --> 01:07:51,920
don't do it justice, Like what you see to your

1195
01:07:52,039 --> 01:07:56,079
eye is significantly more impressive or however you want to

1196
01:07:56,119 --> 01:08:00,719
put it, compared to what the camera picks up. Correct.

1197
01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:07,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean as far as video footage from me personally,

1198
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:11,760
I never had anybody what I was seeing. Personally, you

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01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,840
either could tell that there was something there of a

1200
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,479
shape where you couldn't because of just how bright these

1201
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:23,680
these lights were, the amount of well how much how

1202
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,880
much there was with like how many were showing up

1203
01:08:27,119 --> 01:08:30,359
and they all either resembled the same thing or there

1204
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,039
was just the big ones and then the smaller ones.

1205
01:08:34,239 --> 01:08:36,840
The no noise. That was the other thing that was

1206
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,279
always crazy to me is if these things are these big,

1207
01:08:41,199 --> 01:08:43,800
why is there no noise? Why is there no prop wash?

1208
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,279
Why is there no turbine engines? Why is there no

1209
01:08:46,399 --> 01:08:51,720
hum from electrical or battery operated Because they were low

1210
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,319
enough that you should have heard something, and a lot

1211
01:08:54,359 --> 01:08:56,880
of the times they That was one of the first

1212
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:58,920
things that was brought to me by witnesses or by

1213
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,199
other deputies that saw personally as well, is there's no noise.

1214
01:09:02,279 --> 01:09:07,039
There's no you know, sound from a quad coppter would

1215
01:09:07,039 --> 01:09:10,159
make at sixty feet you would clearly hear that, especially

1216
01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:14,439
in this area where there is no noise pollution from traffic,

1217
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,800
there's no horns honking. The only thing you're hearing around

1218
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:23,159
here at night outside of the towns are coyotes and yourself.

1219
01:09:23,319 --> 01:09:25,800
That's literally what it comes down to.

1220
01:09:26,399 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: So to say, yeah, you're about to add to that.

1221
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 2: No, I would just agreeing it's just dead quiet.

1222
01:09:34,359 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, So it's not like you're in a city

1223
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,800
where there's a lot of noise and it may be

1224
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,159
difficult to make the sound out of something. You would

1225
01:09:41,159 --> 01:09:42,239
definitely hear this.

1226
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely.

1227
01:09:44,039 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 4: Like I said, you can hear the commercial aircraft when

1228
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,239
they're up up at their rings on any given day,

1229
01:09:50,239 --> 01:09:52,760
even during the day when it's not as silent, So

1230
01:09:53,199 --> 01:09:55,439
you can't hear anything out of these wow.

1231
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 1: Okay, another question, and again, folks, super chats are open.

1232
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,319
We always appreciate a donations for the show. And Natasha Falder,

1233
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:07,479
this is for Chris. What did the contrail look like? Puffy,

1234
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:11,359
smoky or spray? Give us a little bit more detail

1235
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,439
on the contrail that you witnessed with that vehicle that

1236
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,880
was only a few one hundred feet or so or

1237
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:17,680
less from you.

1238
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just it looked like your typical contrails that

1239
01:10:22,079 --> 01:10:24,640
you would see from a jet flying at thirty thousand feet,

1240
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,560
you know, moving at high speeds. Just it had that

1241
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,399
look to it. It almost looked like it could have

1242
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,720
been a cloud, but it wasn't. It was a straight

1243
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,359
line of contrails coming off this thing. And I could

1244
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,039
I noticed them clear back almost to where the co

1245
01:10:38,159 --> 01:10:41,359
op light was as it went by me. But then,

1246
01:10:41,399 --> 01:10:44,319
of course, once I hit that bridge and noticed that

1247
01:10:44,399 --> 01:10:46,640
it was gone. You know, when I turned to look

1248
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,119
back behind me to see if those contrails were still there,

1249
01:10:49,199 --> 01:10:53,479
they had dissipated. They'd went away. So I just I

1250
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,039
don't know, it's crazy, weird to me, Yeah.

1251
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 1: And weird indeed. Okay, let's play another tape here. This

1252
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:03,439
is from December twenty second at A three forty nine

1253
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:10,439
a M. Let's see here. This looks like your security camera.

1254
01:11:10,199 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 2: Again if there's another one my security camera cut.

1255
01:11:15,319 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 1: And is the motion activating the camera or is it

1256
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:19,800
recording the constant?

1257
01:11:20,199 --> 01:11:22,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, the motion activates it, and then it sends me

1258
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:28,279
an alert on my phone.

1259
01:11:26,359 --> 01:11:29,520
Speaker 1: And it looks like it is. Well, yeah, you can

1260
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,720
see this thing blinking in in the middle of the screen.

1261
01:11:33,039 --> 01:11:36,119
And I don't think I super imposed the radar data,

1262
01:11:36,159 --> 01:11:39,079
but there was. Actually it looks like somebody's out there, hope.

1263
01:11:39,119 --> 01:11:42,039
Speaker 4: Yes, I actually I actually went outside after this one.

1264
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,159
I called called somebody up and had them come out

1265
01:11:45,159 --> 01:11:47,520
and clarify with me, and we looked at it together

1266
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,840
and blew both of our minds because this is this

1267
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,840
is the last one of the videos that I think

1268
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:53,800
I took of this.

1269
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 2: Yep.

1270
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 4: So then we went out and the same thing, and

1271
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,239
he witnessed the same exact thing as well.

1272
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 2: He even took recordings on his phone.

1273
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 1: And again, No, this thing looks like it's pretty stationary.

1274
01:12:08,399 --> 01:12:09,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, it.

1275
01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:11,159
Speaker 4: It stayed there for a while, then it goes on

1276
01:12:11,239 --> 01:12:14,359
and off, and then we actually ended up seeing it.

1277
01:12:14,359 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 2: I didn't.

1278
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 4: I don't think I got it on video, but there

1279
01:12:17,039 --> 01:12:20,000
was one that was actually it was like burnt orange color.

1280
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,479
It was order to write this one, and that one

1281
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:24,720
kind of blew my mind as well. I wish I

1282
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:25,840
would have got that one on video.

1283
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, crazy. So are you hearing this officer a

1284
01:12:31,039 --> 01:12:34,960
studium from your county residents that they are seeing these

1285
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:35,439
as well?

1286
01:12:37,319 --> 01:12:39,159
Speaker 4: I actually don't really hear much from the people who

1287
01:12:39,159 --> 01:12:40,680
around here. I don't know if they're just used to

1288
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,159
it by now or what the deal is, But we

1289
01:12:43,199 --> 01:12:45,600
don't hear too much about it. Actually, unless he talked

1290
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,239
talk to them and bring the conversation to them, then maybe.

1291
01:12:48,319 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: But now, when you say used to it, used to

1292
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,680
it as in when this picked up three weeks ago,

1293
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,319
or used to it as then this has been going

1294
01:12:57,399 --> 01:12:59,439
on there since twenty nineteen, twenty twenty.

1295
01:13:00,039 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, years ago.

1296
01:13:02,159 --> 01:13:05,359
Speaker 4: It hasn't been prevalent around here for the whole four

1297
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,039
years or whatever, but it's definitely it's been off and on,

1298
01:13:08,079 --> 01:13:10,399
and I think people are honestly just used to it.

1299
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:14,279
They don't report much and it's just another thing another

1300
01:13:14,359 --> 01:13:14,920
day in ors.

1301
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: This is crazy. So this didn't just like pop up

1302
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,600
three weeks ago. You're saying that this has been going

1303
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,680
ongoing since twenty nineteen, twenty twenty in Order Nebraska.

1304
01:13:27,399 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 2: Correct.

1305
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 4: Three weeks ago is when I started ramping up and

1306
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,039
things really started getting hectic.

1307
01:13:32,159 --> 01:13:34,239
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's been going on a while.

1308
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:43,319
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, it's okay from Arcos, I'm not can even

1309
01:13:43,359 --> 01:13:46,039
try your last name because I'll butcher that. Please thank

1310
01:13:46,079 --> 01:13:51,279
these officers for their courage from France. So fans of

1311
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,880
what you guys are doing all the way from France.

1312
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:58,680
So thank you very much. Jason Ward, thank you so

1313
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:03,520
so much. Officers. Yeah, you know again, it's like people,

1314
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:09,479
people are really really appreciative for you know, for you know,

1315
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:14,640
for you know, for your service. Let's see here going

1316
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:22,560
through more more questions. Let's see Nick, Nick m thank

1317
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:24,640
you very much for the super chat. Or first super

1318
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,520
Chat donation. During the show thank you for that. A

1319
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:31,800
couple of New Jersey said, a goofy looking helicopter making

1320
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:36,079
crazy moves followed her husband. As soon as it spotted him,

1321
01:14:36,359 --> 01:14:39,520
he ran inside his home and turned around. This was

1322
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,119
last year. Do you see a pattern? Have you guys

1323
01:14:42,119 --> 01:14:45,680
ever heard of that, like things that maybe look like

1324
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,279
military helicopters that just maybe don't quite make sense.

1325
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, when I when I was a firefighter in Courtland

1326
01:14:54,359 --> 01:14:58,680
actually this would have been around twenty nineteen time, a

1327
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,439
little after I actually league. We just said a couple

1328
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,600
of times going down Highway seventy seven where there's just

1329
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,119
an orb, would it look like and they would follow

1330
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:10,600
the ways down there, same same kind of thing. So

1331
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,640
I've definitely seen them do it. It's almost like they're

1332
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,640
their toy with you a little bit, but they know

1333
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,319
you're there and they just want to get like get

1334
01:15:17,319 --> 01:15:18,279
a reaction or something.

1335
01:15:18,279 --> 01:15:20,119
Speaker 2: It's strange, but.

1336
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,399
Speaker 1: Did this appear as a helicopter or an orb of light?

1337
01:15:24,079 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 2: It was just like an orb, but it did. It

1338
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:26,960
would follow you the same.

1339
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: Way, Okay, got it? Okay, But you haven't seen helicopters

1340
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,720
that seem odd or anything, like that.

1341
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely not around here. What helicopters we do see

1342
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,840
are usually like your National Guard guys up here on

1343
01:15:42,399 --> 01:15:45,239
their weekend training in a Chinook or a black Hawk,

1344
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,239
you know, traversing the rivers and stuff like that, or

1345
01:15:49,279 --> 01:15:51,840
actually coming to our airport maybe doing some type of

1346
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:56,439
training at the airport with their helicopters. The other helicopters

1347
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,439
that we do see around here occasionally are meta bad

1348
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,920
guys are coming from the hospitals and Carneie or Lincoln

1349
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,119
or Grand Island come to pick somebody up and as

1350
01:16:06,119 --> 01:16:09,399
far as them, they land at the hospital, they pick

1351
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:11,520
up the patient, and they fly right where they need

1352
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,800
to go, or they'll fly to the actual airport land

1353
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:19,279
at the airport, ambulance transports, the patient gets on the helicopter,

1354
01:16:19,399 --> 01:16:21,239
and then they leave right back to where they came from.

1355
01:16:21,319 --> 01:16:24,840
They don't ever just mess around our towns or fly

1356
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,479
over you know, the houses or anything like that. They

1357
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:30,560
have their mission, they go do their mission, and then

1358
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:31,000
they leave.

1359
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: Any chance that what either of you have witnessed were

1360
01:16:36,079 --> 01:16:39,800
perhaps these helicopters, I guess.

1361
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 4: There's always a chance, but I don't think so. Not

1362
01:16:42,239 --> 01:16:43,920
in my opinion, absolutely.

1363
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: Not okay, okay, so I just please sorry, no, no,

1364
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:48,560
go ahead.

1365
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 3: I'm just going to say a lot of these other

1366
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,520
deputies and stuff that I have associated with for many

1367
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,159
many years now, they're both well, i should say, a

1368
01:16:56,199 --> 01:16:58,880
lot of them are still in the military or also

1369
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,399
we're in the military before they became deputies. And they

1370
01:17:02,399 --> 01:17:05,840
know what helicopters are. They know what you know, cessnas are,

1371
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,520
what se one, thirty five c seventeens, They know what

1372
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,800
these are. And they were not seeing that. They were

1373
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:16,880
not seeing planes, they were not seeing helicopters. They were

1374
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:21,279
seeing things that could they have been the drones. Yes,

1375
01:17:21,319 --> 01:17:24,840
but when you're seeing fifty in Valley County and you're

1376
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:29,880
seeing twenty five in Lincoln County, and you're seeing you know,

1377
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:34,319
fifteen in Garfield County, all at the same time or

1378
01:17:34,399 --> 01:17:38,159
within just a few minutes of each other, you're not

1379
01:17:38,319 --> 01:17:42,279
seeing your hobbyist drones out. You're just not. It's a

1380
01:17:42,319 --> 01:17:47,119
coordinated event. They are doing something, whether it's you know,

1381
01:17:47,239 --> 01:17:51,840
a mission from our military or a foreign adversary or

1382
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,960
whatever else it could be. They clearly have a mission

1383
01:17:55,279 --> 01:17:59,000
and it's coordinated, it's very well funded. It's not a

1384
01:17:59,039 --> 01:18:03,520
helicopter out flying around. It's not a cessna as far

1385
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:07,600
as you know, coming from an airport. It's not a

1386
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:12,479
crop dester this stuff. I just I want people to

1387
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,920
know that out here in Org and in Valley County,

1388
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:20,359
our population is smaller than our cattle population. We have

1389
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:24,439
more cows in Valley County than we do people. And

1390
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,279
for the activity that we were seeing in twenty nineteen

1391
01:18:27,279 --> 01:18:31,399
and twenty twenty, it's so crazy. I don't know what

1392
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,479
the point of it was. If it was an adversary,

1393
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:40,399
how and where were they going to at night to refuel,

1394
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:45,680
re energize. Where were they hiding. It's central Nebraska. We're

1395
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:50,279
talking thousands of miles in any direction to a body

1396
01:18:50,319 --> 01:18:53,760
of water where you can put an aircraft carrier, a

1397
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:58,720
cargo ship. These things were not flying into a semi

1398
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:02,640
truck at three point thirty in the morning on a highway.

1399
01:19:03,199 --> 01:19:06,079
They weren't flying out of these semi trucks. We attempted

1400
01:19:06,079 --> 01:19:09,720
to pull these vehicles over. That could have been, you know,

1401
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:10,960
a hud for these things.

1402
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 2: We just.

1403
01:19:13,199 --> 01:19:15,199
Speaker 3: We did our due diligence out here to figure out

1404
01:19:15,239 --> 01:19:18,520
what it was, and it we just never could. They

1405
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:23,439
were very, very technologically advanced whether it was a drone

1406
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:27,199
or something else, it didn't matter. They were very, very

1407
01:19:27,279 --> 01:19:31,479
very advanced. And to be out in or Nebraska, Valley County, Nebraska,

1408
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:36,840
you know over over in the surrounding counties, we don't.

1409
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,239
We don't have nuclear facilities right here. We do have

1410
01:19:40,279 --> 01:19:43,760
ethanol plants that that you know, send out feed and

1411
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:47,760
make you know, ethanol for our vehicles. We do have

1412
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:51,000
that stuff. But as far as a mission that a

1413
01:19:51,039 --> 01:19:54,840
military would be running that is our own or a

1414
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:59,760
foreign government, I don't understand what their reconnaissance purposes would

1415
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:04,880
be other than our infrastructure, our our train lines, where

1416
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,479
our trains come from. Because we do we do feed

1417
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,199
a lot of the country's animals. We do send out

1418
01:20:10,199 --> 01:20:13,039
a lot of feed to other places. But I just

1419
01:20:13,279 --> 01:20:16,239
I don't understand what they were doing, especially when you

1420
01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:19,680
start getting phone calls from your your ranchers about these

1421
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:25,399
things harassing their livestock, harassing their horses, these things hovering

1422
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:29,159
over schools here in or Nebraska that I believe wasn't

1423
01:20:29,159 --> 01:20:31,239
actually in one of the reports I sent you from

1424
01:20:31,279 --> 01:20:35,039
the local office here here in order about she witnessed

1425
01:20:35,039 --> 01:20:38,640
this larger looking drone and possibly up to three more

1426
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,319
hovering over our schools. What's that about if you're a

1427
01:20:42,319 --> 01:20:45,760
foreign adversary and you want to hear the government say, oh,

1428
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,840
these aren't a threat. If it's our foreign adversary, what

1429
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,520
are they flying over our public schools? What's the point

1430
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,199
of that. I just wanted to throw that out there

1431
01:20:55,199 --> 01:20:55,600
as well.

1432
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,239
Speaker 1: That's that's absolutely horrifying.

1433
01:21:00,199 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just.

1434
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,119
Speaker 4: To add on it too, Like these things, if they

1435
01:21:05,119 --> 01:21:08,199
were actually drones or something of our military or origin

1436
01:21:08,319 --> 01:21:11,479
or something like that, like drones have to land, they

1437
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,319
have to land somewhere and not once. Out of the

1438
01:21:13,359 --> 01:21:15,279
scores of these things that I've seen, have I ever

1439
01:21:15,279 --> 01:21:19,239
seen one land or take off? They're just there and

1440
01:21:19,239 --> 01:21:20,439
then they're gone, just quick.

1441
01:21:21,039 --> 01:21:25,119
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see another question here, Lee Asbury glad to

1442
01:21:25,159 --> 01:21:29,079
see more coming forward on this bizarre story. Terrence willis

1443
01:21:29,159 --> 01:21:31,560
a question for all three that they seem to be

1444
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:35,279
looking for something or just wanting to be seen, and

1445
01:21:35,359 --> 01:21:38,720
thank you all for having the guts to take to

1446
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:39,840
look for the truth.

1447
01:21:42,319 --> 01:21:43,600
Speaker 2: I have no idea what they're doing.

1448
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 4: It's like they want to be seen, but they don't.

1449
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:48,279
At the same time, like they have their lights on

1450
01:21:48,359 --> 01:21:51,159
for a reason with them having the ability to turn

1451
01:21:51,159 --> 01:21:54,199
their lights off at will, and then the fact that

1452
01:21:54,239 --> 01:21:57,279
they don't could mean one thing. But then at the

1453
01:21:57,279 --> 01:22:00,119
same time, they stay away from you far enough you

1454
01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:02,039
can't make out the shape and everything of them. So

1455
01:22:02,119 --> 01:22:05,840
it's it's just confusing, like we know nothing, like we

1456
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:10,159
definitely need help understanding what they're doing here understood.

1457
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,279
Speaker 1: I actually want to issue a correction. The super chat

1458
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:17,760
was actually from a Phantomstpanto. Thank you, thank you so

1459
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,800
much for that. Here's another good question from Cosmic Serpent.

1460
01:22:22,279 --> 01:22:27,920
Any cattle mutilations reported in your county?

1461
01:22:28,079 --> 01:22:31,560
Speaker 3: Not during not during that time, not twenty nineteen, twenty twenty.

1462
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:35,560
Speaker 4: No, No, I think I've heard about I think I've

1463
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,760
heard about something that was like in the fifties or

1464
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,079
something maybe that I've just heard in this story.

1465
01:22:40,079 --> 01:22:45,239
Speaker 3: But recently not not in my time that I have

1466
01:22:45,359 --> 01:22:50,479
been here in Valley County have I seen a cattle

1467
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,680
mutilation or one been reported to me. We we do

1468
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,720
deal with, you know, ranchers calling in their cattle dead.

1469
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:00,720
There may be some type of a fairy played to it,

1470
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:06,199
like another angry rancher shot another guy's now or something

1471
01:23:06,279 --> 01:23:08,680
like that. Like that does happen, But as far as

1472
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,359
a cattle mutilation going on when this was going on, No,

1473
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,279
I will tell you that back. I believe in the

1474
01:23:15,319 --> 01:23:18,239
early two thousands, my mother in law actually did a

1475
01:23:18,279 --> 01:23:23,680
report in a county south of here on an actual,

1476
01:23:24,079 --> 01:23:26,880
very bizarre cattle mutilation. But that was in the early

1477
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:27,560
two thousands.

1478
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 1: I will be okay, okay. One the question for Matt

1479
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,920
was that plasma bean shaped orbs stuck in the tree

1480
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:38,720
branch every debunk. I'm not sure what we're talking about here,

1481
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:43,279
Paul Ross. Are there any significant cave systems in Nebraska

1482
01:23:43,319 --> 01:23:45,840
in your area?

1483
01:23:46,319 --> 01:23:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1484
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:50,359
Speaker 3: I was gonna say Happy Jacks, but it wouldn't be

1485
01:23:50,399 --> 01:23:52,600
to the extent where these things could go high and

1486
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:56,039
fly in because Happy Jacks is people go there every

1487
01:23:56,119 --> 01:23:59,159
day to climb to the top take a twenty minute

1488
01:23:59,159 --> 01:24:03,840
break from where. Yeah, they definitely wouldn't have been hiding

1489
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,159
in them if that's what he was maybe referring to.

1490
01:24:07,199 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 1: Got it. Okay, Let's see another super chat from a

1491
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,800
phantomas fanto, do you need funding for better equipment? I

1492
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:18,840
think that question was for me. Yeah. Actually, for since

1493
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:23,479
this show has been running, any donations we get or subscriptions,

1494
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,880
they go right back into purchasing equipment because it is

1495
01:24:27,279 --> 01:24:31,560
it is certainly not cheap. Question about from this gentleman

1496
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,560
who just gave us another super chat, what about a

1497
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:38,399
drone with large spotlights? There has to be some Oh,

1498
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,119
I'm not sure what he means. He's basically saying you

1499
01:24:41,159 --> 01:24:45,439
could buy some spotlights to get donated. I'm I'm not

1500
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:50,119
sure what that means. Let's watch. Let's watch another video.

1501
01:24:50,520 --> 01:25:00,800
This is from December twenty second at six eight a m.

1502
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:05,439
So again, there's no air traffic on the radar, and

1503
01:25:06,039 --> 01:25:09,720
let's see what are we looking at here? If you

1504
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,840
can see that, Deputy, is that.

1505
01:25:13,399 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 4: The videos are throwing up really small on my screen.

1506
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,279
I'm that's hard to see.

1507
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's it's hard to see. Hard to

1508
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,000
see here. I'm gonna kind of I think this could

1509
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,399
be from your security camera, but again.

1510
01:25:25,239 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 2: Just no.

1511
01:25:26,159 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 4: This is actually this is from when I was still outside.

1512
01:25:29,399 --> 01:25:30,920
So this was the last one that I had.

1513
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 2: This was one.

1514
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:36,279
Speaker 4: It was it just went from like really low lower altitude,

1515
01:25:37,279 --> 01:25:39,359
like a lot lower than normal. I bet this one

1516
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,680
was probably around six thousands. So for these little ones

1517
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,479
that are usually up way higher, this one is actually

1518
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,920
a little bit closer it looks a lot closer in person,

1519
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:50,680
and it went straight up and it like goes towards

1520
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:53,760
the moon and then it does a complete complete ninety

1521
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,479
degree angle and it comes back right over top. It

1522
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,319
is just going at speeds that are just insane. Again,

1523
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:01,319
no sound.

1524
01:26:03,079 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: And this so this would have occurred last night, Yes,

1525
01:26:07,079 --> 01:26:10,199
this is this morning, this morning? Okay, oh yeah, right,

1526
01:26:10,319 --> 01:26:14,159
uh yeah, six oh eight am. That's uh yeah. It

1527
01:26:14,159 --> 01:26:17,000
looks like there's something else blinking there. Oh yeah, right

1528
01:26:17,039 --> 01:26:20,000
below it, there's another one. Yeah, yeah, it's and it

1529
01:26:20,039 --> 01:26:21,880
blinks off and then comes back on.

1530
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 2: Yep.

1531
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 1: So so, officer or Deputy Steedum, in your personal opinion,

1532
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:32,960
what do you think these things are?

1533
01:26:35,199 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 4: I don't know if I can put a nail on it,

1534
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:40,039
but they're definitely not of our origin.

1535
01:26:40,239 --> 01:26:41,039
Speaker 2: I can say that much.

1536
01:26:41,079 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 4: We don't have the technology I don't think to be

1537
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,520
able to do half the maneuvers. And that's stuff that

1538
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,800
they do, and if it would be us, we're doing

1539
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:50,920
a bunch of illegal stuff. We're turning the lights off

1540
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,159
and we're flying at night, and I just don't I

1541
01:26:54,199 --> 01:26:55,960
don't think it's from here.

1542
01:26:56,079 --> 01:26:59,399
Speaker 1: And are there any nuclear facilities in your county either?

1543
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:06,640
Power LANs or ICBMs any of that. No, none of that. Wow, Chris,

1544
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:09,479
What is your opinion on do you think these things

1545
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,960
are terrestrial or man made? What is your sort of

1546
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:13,560
take on it?

1547
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:18,359
Speaker 3: Your personal take? I, like Jade said, I can't put

1548
01:27:18,399 --> 01:27:22,800
a nail on it. I can only speculate. I can

1549
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,359
tell you that whatever these things are, they're very advanced.

1550
01:27:25,399 --> 01:27:29,560
The technology is advanced. How how do you cover in

1551
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,039
like the one that I saw? How do you cover

1552
01:27:32,119 --> 01:27:34,119
three quarters of a mile at one hundred hundred and

1553
01:27:34,119 --> 01:27:38,640
fifty feet you know, in two to three seconds without

1554
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:42,760
not having noise there? I mean, could it have been

1555
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,960
flying so fast that it broke the sound barrier and

1556
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:49,479
I should have heard us on it boom? I think so,

1557
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:54,479
I believe so. How did it have contrails behind it?

1558
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:58,079
But yet it's not making noise and causing friction in

1559
01:27:58,079 --> 01:28:00,920
the air and heating up itself from how fast it

1560
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:05,039
was going at that hundred feet? The technology is great.

1561
01:28:05,199 --> 01:28:07,640
And then when you think about what that sheriff saw

1562
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:11,039
in the county two counties over, even if that thing

1563
01:28:11,239 --> 01:28:15,039
was a drone, why was it not making noise when

1564
01:28:15,079 --> 01:28:17,920
it was according to him, the size of his suburban

1565
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:25,079
The technology is phenomenal. And if it is the United States,

1566
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,199
hell yeah, like you're not going to hear me complain.

1567
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:30,560
I wanted to be able to be able to defend

1568
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:34,399
ourselves and fight off our enemies. I commend our military

1569
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:38,279
and our scientists and our you know are elected and

1570
01:28:38,319 --> 01:28:41,039
government officials that are giving us this technology. If it

1571
01:28:41,119 --> 01:28:42,840
is US, I'm not putting them down in any way

1572
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,279
when it comes to that, I appreciate that. I want

1573
01:28:45,279 --> 01:28:48,319
my children to grow up and be safe. If it

1574
01:28:48,399 --> 01:28:54,399
is our adversary, we're in trouble because this was over

1575
01:28:55,039 --> 01:29:00,840
Nebraska in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty. I'm being told

1576
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:07,640
by multiple people within government, within the military, it's not us, No,

1577
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:13,199
that we're not doing that. What was its purpose? If

1578
01:29:13,199 --> 01:29:17,960
it is some advanced technology that's not from Perth, what

1579
01:29:18,079 --> 01:29:22,000
were they doing in Nebraska in twenty eighteen twenty twenty,

1580
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:28,399
flying over our little towns, harassing livestock, given law enforcement

1581
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:32,840
a problem, wasting our taxpayer dollars? You know, it just

1582
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:38,439
it made no sense. And as far as if it

1583
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:43,720
is from somewhere else and they are showing themselves, you know,

1584
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,600
maybe the people they don't want to talk to are

1585
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:50,399
our government officials. They need to come and talk to

1586
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:52,520
guys like you who are going to have an open

1587
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,079
mind and want to talk to them. You know, because

1588
01:29:55,079 --> 01:29:57,840
look here we are. We're in twenty twenty four and

1589
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:00,800
I've been you can ask, you can, Jade. I've been

1590
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,600
talking about this and letting people know and everything since

1591
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,880
this has happened. He can tell you the conversations that

1592
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:10,279
we've had over the years about this stuff. I've been

1593
01:30:10,399 --> 01:30:13,760
doing so much to try and get people involved that

1594
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:17,279
are that are in our military. I've reached out to

1595
01:30:17,399 --> 01:30:22,359
officials that were in government, that are in government. I've

1596
01:30:22,359 --> 01:30:25,439
reached out to our senators and congressmen here in Nebraska,

1597
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:29,439
and they've done I've not received an email back from anybody.

1598
01:30:30,239 --> 01:30:32,880
And then I can and yet I can call, I

1599
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:36,000
can email you, and within a few days you're getting

1600
01:30:36,039 --> 01:30:39,560
in contact with me and hearing what I can tell

1601
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:43,399
you and then asking me for the proof of stuff.

1602
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:49,239
The nine on one calls, witness testimony, additional law enforcement officers,

1603
01:30:49,279 --> 01:30:53,159
contact information. You doing your due diligence, and here we

1604
01:30:53,199 --> 01:30:56,000
are two months after I reach out to you, and

1605
01:30:57,199 --> 01:30:59,920
we got we got guys like Chris Plomo interested in

1606
01:31:00,119 --> 01:31:03,279
this stuff, you know, but our government gives us the

1607
01:31:03,359 --> 01:31:07,479
run around. And we have some pretty significant journalists out

1608
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,880
there that are interested, that aren't afraid to bring this

1609
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:14,880
stuff up, that aren't going to tell us what we

1610
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:18,479
don't know. You know, we'll look into it. They're they're

1611
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:20,680
gonna sit us down, They're gonna want to hear what

1612
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:23,439
we have to say. And then they're trying to get

1613
01:31:24,279 --> 01:31:26,840
our government officials to come out and be a little

1614
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,359
bit more honest with us. Because, like I said, if

1615
01:31:29,359 --> 01:31:35,039
it's our technology, awesome. I am a patriot, I love

1616
01:31:35,079 --> 01:31:38,159
my country. I am a very big fan of my military.

1617
01:31:38,239 --> 01:31:40,439
I still have brothers in arms, brothers and sisters in

1618
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,520
arms that are still in the military. You know, I

1619
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,399
appreciate a lot of these congressmen and women that are

1620
01:31:47,039 --> 01:31:51,199
bringing the forefront to whatever this is. I want them

1621
01:31:51,239 --> 01:31:53,680
to be involved because not only do we pay them,

1622
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,520
but they clearly kept, they clearly care, and they want

1623
01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:59,359
to get to the bottom of it. So if it's us,

1624
01:32:00,199 --> 01:32:03,279
just be honest. You know, the American people we can

1625
01:32:03,319 --> 01:32:06,680
handle the truth. We can on many many levels. We've

1626
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:10,159
seen multiple world wars, We've seen the global war on terrorism,

1627
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:13,239
We've seen terrible stuff that has happened in our country

1628
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:17,119
from the beginning to now. We're Americans. We can handle it.

1629
01:32:18,119 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 1: I completely completely agree. I want to thank Kelly Kolsnik

1630
01:32:22,119 --> 01:32:25,199
for the super chat these. Do you guys think that

1631
01:32:25,239 --> 01:32:29,199
these drones represent a leap frog in technology? Sounds like

1632
01:32:29,199 --> 01:32:29,760
you both do.

1633
01:32:30,399 --> 01:32:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, okay.

1634
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 1: From super chat from thanks again for the super chats.

1635
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:41,359
Help us by some better equipment here from PLBM Music, Hi, Matt,

1636
01:32:41,359 --> 01:32:44,479
thank you for reporting on the issue. You're very very welcome.

1637
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:46,880
As I always say, this is a team effort. Another

1638
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:52,920
super chat from Phantomus. He's asking if the officers could

1639
01:32:53,079 --> 01:32:59,159
use equipment FLEAR cameras, etc. To properly see these things.

1640
01:33:00,079 --> 01:33:05,119
Are you guys equipped with any kind of Flear or

1641
01:33:05,279 --> 01:33:06,640
night vision equipment?

1642
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:11,640
Speaker 4: Typically no, not not within our department when we're on

1643
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:16,159
a special response team that we had previously. Previous to

1644
01:33:16,239 --> 01:33:18,760
this year, we had some of that stuff available to us,

1645
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:20,439
but not right now.

1646
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:23,319
Speaker 2: You would definitely, it would definitely be helpful.

1647
01:33:24,279 --> 01:33:28,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure. Actually I would love to have something

1648
01:33:28,319 --> 01:33:33,840
like something like that myself. Deputy Deputy Steedham, do you think,

1649
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:37,880
and this question is not coming from a partisan point

1650
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:41,600
of view, if if there were a Republican administration, I

1651
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:44,359
would be saying the exact same thing. Do you think

1652
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:47,880
that the White House is lying to the public.

1653
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 2: Well, whether it's lying or not, I don't.

1654
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if I would go that far, just

1655
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,039
because I don't know. I don't want to stir things up.

1656
01:33:54,079 --> 01:33:56,920
But they're definitely I think they know more than they're

1657
01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:00,079
leading on. And even if they don't like it's just

1658
01:34:00,119 --> 01:34:02,359
tell us because we have to know right now.

1659
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 2: If they're trying not to cause panic, they're going to

1660
01:34:05,039 --> 01:34:05,600
end up doing it.

1661
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 4: And having a little bit of panic right now would

1662
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:10,399
be a lot better than the alternative. If these things

1663
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:13,520
come out, you know, in masses, and then something happens,

1664
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:15,920
we're going to be a lot worse off than than

1665
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:17,840
we would be if we were told, you know, what

1666
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:19,720
Exit Actlee is going on, or what they know you

1667
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:20,720
And for that point.

1668
01:34:21,199 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 1: Chris, do you think that this jeopardizes Do you think

1669
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:31,760
that this jeopardizes our security? Do you think that this jeopardized?

1670
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:36,079
Should should should people at home be concerned about what

1671
01:34:36,239 --> 01:34:41,720
is going on? Is this a possible threat to public safety?

1672
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:47,079
Speaker 3: It very much could be. Just bringing up from our

1673
01:34:47,199 --> 01:34:49,760
past conversations about you know what if one of these

1674
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:53,039
larger drone things, whatever you want to call them, strap

1675
01:34:53,079 --> 01:34:55,079
fifteen pounds a C four on them and fly them

1676
01:34:55,079 --> 01:34:57,079
into an ethanol plant around here, You're going to have

1677
01:34:57,119 --> 01:34:59,640
some significant damage. You're going to have loss of life,

1678
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,880
You're going to have your soil ruined where you know

1679
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,680
farmers are planting their crops, things like that. You're gonna

1680
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,760
have a significant amount of damage. And we know that

1681
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,720
drones are capable of this. We see it in Ukraine.

1682
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:17,359
We're we're seeing it in you know, the Israel Hamas stuff.

1683
01:35:17,399 --> 01:35:20,920
They're they're flying precision little drones into buildings and flying

1684
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:24,319
them through windows and blowing buildings up. So yeah, it

1685
01:35:24,319 --> 01:35:27,119
could be it could very much become a threat if

1686
01:35:27,199 --> 01:35:30,600
whatever this is wanted to and if it's our if

1687
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:33,399
it's our government that's doing it, it's our military, it's

1688
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:38,000
a private contractor just tell us. I mean, if anything,

1689
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:41,640
the populace out here in Nebraska, if we know that

1690
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:45,479
this is our military operating here, this is a pretty

1691
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:49,520
patriotic area, this area loves its country, We're probably going

1692
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:52,960
to be like, oh yeah, it's military out here, operate Okay.

1693
01:35:53,159 --> 01:35:54,680
You know, there's gonna be a lot of people that

1694
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:57,159
will leave it alone and stop bringing it up. But

1695
01:35:57,199 --> 01:36:00,760
when you tell people out here, we don't know, there's

1696
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:04,439
nothing that we can do, don't worry about it. People

1697
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,880
around here, Yeah, they're gonna tell you, Na, we're gonna

1698
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,880
keep looking into this. You know, we pay your tax

1699
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:13,399
or we pay your salary with our taxes. You're gonna

1700
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,439
you're gonna do something, you know, or we're gonna just

1701
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:17,119
keep bothering you.

1702
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:18,119
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1703
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, to add on that, if if at another one

1704
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:24,199
of the things too, with the people around here and

1705
01:36:24,279 --> 01:36:26,520
a lot of rural places even in other states, it's

1706
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:28,760
like if they don't tell us, especially as farmers and

1707
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:30,800
stuff like that that have a lot of a lot

1708
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,279
of steak, like they're gonna take matters into their own

1709
01:36:33,359 --> 01:36:35,800
hands and then it's just gonna it's gonna go a

1710
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:36,520
wall from there.

1711
01:36:37,079 --> 01:36:42,239
Speaker 1: So I'm just understood. H Okay. So let's see, Deputy

1712
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:45,840
Deputy Stedham. We know you have to go on duty,

1713
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:49,640
so we're not going to keep you. And and Chris, So,

1714
01:36:50,119 --> 01:36:52,680
as I mentioned before, when we when we interviewed you,

1715
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,800
I actually conducted the interview. I think it was like

1716
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:59,000
a month uh prior to when we aired it, and

1717
01:36:59,079 --> 01:37:02,760
at that time you were chief of police. You have

1718
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:05,479
since left. Can you tell us why you are no

1719
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:07,600
longer a chief of police?

1720
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:11,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I resigned from my position back in December

1721
01:37:12,399 --> 01:37:17,039
eighth of this year with the police Department because I'm

1722
01:37:17,239 --> 01:37:20,000
I'm going to be taking a contract job, a private

1723
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:25,520
contract job overseas, and I just wanted to better my

1724
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:27,520
family a little bit better than what I have now

1725
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:31,600
with you know, a little bit better pay. And I

1726
01:37:32,239 --> 01:37:34,520
just I've been wanting to do that job for quite

1727
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:38,199
a while now, and now that that is another opportunity

1728
01:37:38,239 --> 01:37:39,640
for me, I just decided to take it.

1729
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:45,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, congratulations, congratulations to you both. Well, gentlemen, thank

1730
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:48,159
you very much for coming on. I look forward to

1731
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:52,720
hearing more. And yeah, thank you for what you're doing

1732
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:56,279
for your country. And yeah, my hat is off to

1733
01:37:56,359 --> 01:38:00,680
both of you. You both are the epitome of putting

1734
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:06,399
country before self and serving as law enforcement officers in

1735
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:10,279
this great United States of America. So thank you, thank

1736
01:38:10,319 --> 01:38:11,319
you so much for joining us.

1737
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 2: Thanks Matt, thanks for having us.

1738
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 1: Okay, great now, thank you, Okay, awesome. Well that was yeah,

1739
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,680
that was really great. So I do I do want

1740
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:21,960
to point out Mark von Rennan Camp, who is a

1741
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:24,199
friend of the show. You know, he was noting that

1742
01:38:24,279 --> 01:38:27,920
in some cases these things, some of these videos can

1743
01:38:28,039 --> 01:38:33,000
be mistaken for either you know, Starland or something like that,

1744
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:37,640
and uh, you know, so not every video is going

1745
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:41,680
to be a hit. Obviously. What you have to rely

1746
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:45,319
on in many cases, especially in this case, because this

1747
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:48,119
is coming from law enforcement, is you know, what they

1748
01:38:48,119 --> 01:38:55,399
are witnessing with their you know, with their eyes. And and

1749
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:56,920
again it's just the fact that we we have trained

1750
01:38:56,920 --> 01:39:00,760
officers that are that are viewing this stuff now, the

1751
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:05,479
current stuff that is being seen over Nebraska that Deputy

1752
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:10,319
Steedam has been messaging to us over the past few nights.

1753
01:39:10,399 --> 01:39:12,800
You know, as he noted, many of these things are

1754
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:15,800
only about five thousand feet off the ground. They're much

1755
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:20,960
lower than the air traffic overhead. Certainly, I would think

1756
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:25,439
that they would look completely different than a satellite going over,

1757
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:28,920
which is obviously going to be in excess in altitude

1758
01:39:29,159 --> 01:39:34,600
to what you would see with drones or commercial commercial aircraft.

1759
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:37,079
But you know, really the thing to keep in mind

1760
01:39:37,159 --> 01:39:42,479
here is that this has been going on for quite

1761
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:44,119
some time. And this is what I brought up on

1762
01:39:44,159 --> 01:39:49,319
News Nation with Chris Cuomo. The sheer fact that this

1763
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:54,279
has been occurring since twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, just it

1764
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:58,960
lays bare the fact that the Biden administration they know

1765
01:39:59,039 --> 01:40:02,000
what these things are are. Uh, you know, we had

1766
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:05,399
a source that told us that it has been just

1767
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:09,199
a a absolute shit show in the White House as

1768
01:40:09,359 --> 01:40:14,520
they've been panicking over how to mitig mitigate this this crisis,

1769
01:40:15,039 --> 01:40:18,960
and it's it's just, you know, it's it's really it's

1770
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:24,199
really insane. And the fact that the White House is

1771
01:40:24,359 --> 01:40:28,680
trying to play this as misidentified aircraft. And again I'm

1772
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:31,640
not saying that that that is not the case. That

1773
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:35,760
certainly videos and even possibly some of the videos that

1774
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:39,680
that we just saw from Officer steedam you know, there

1775
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:43,760
is a slight chance that these could be misidentified aircraft.

1776
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:47,399
But the totality, when you have that sheer number of

1777
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:52,439
videos coming from from individuals, it really it really tips

1778
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:54,960
the scales in the direction that that these are not

1779
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:59,680
any sort of any sort of conventional, conventional thing. And

1780
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:04,560
again I would point out from Officer Grooms that in

1781
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:08,880
the twenty nineteen, twenty twenty sidings that these things were

1782
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:12,039
only one hundred to two hundred feet off the ground

1783
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:16,159
we have in our possession. I think it's somewhere around

1784
01:41:16,239 --> 01:41:19,640
eighty to maybe one hundred nine to one one calls

1785
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:22,840
to record that were provided to us from the twenty

1786
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:27,119
nineteen twenty twenty incident. And when you read these records,

1787
01:41:27,159 --> 01:41:31,840
it is clear that these are not conventional drones. They

1788
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:36,720
are not hobbyist drones. They are not a jet aircraft

1789
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:43,319
that's being mistaken for these things. Is it is really

1790
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:48,880
something else? And the fact that you've got this administration,

1791
01:41:50,039 --> 01:41:53,119
and again, if this were a Republican administration, I'd be

1792
01:41:53,159 --> 01:41:56,560
saying the same thing. I'm coming at this from a

1793
01:41:56,600 --> 01:42:01,319
non partisan lens. The fact that this administered is gas

1794
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:07,039
lighting Americans, the fact that this administration is gas lighting lawmakers,

1795
01:42:07,279 --> 01:42:11,239
the fact that this administration is gas lighting local and

1796
01:42:11,359 --> 01:42:17,479
state police is unacceptable when you have local and state

1797
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:21,000
law enforcement. And by this, I'm talking about what has

1798
01:42:21,119 --> 01:42:24,279
been reported in New Jersey when they are when they

1799
01:42:24,319 --> 01:42:28,960
are basically getting the same line of bullshit that the

1800
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:33,600
public is getting. These men and women that are sworn

1801
01:42:34,079 --> 01:42:39,119
to protect all of us, when they get garbage from

1802
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:42,479
the White House, from the Biden administration, from the Pentagon,

1803
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:48,079
how can they do their jobs? When Officer Grooms spoke

1804
01:42:48,119 --> 01:42:52,520
about these things in order Nebraska in twenty nineteen, twenty

1805
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:58,359
twenty over a school where our kids are at and

1806
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,720
there's no strategic or or any reason that they would

1807
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:04,319
need to be out there. How is that not a

1808
01:43:04,399 --> 01:43:12,000
threat to public safety? It clearly is the ad the administration,

1809
01:43:12,079 --> 01:43:15,960
the Biden Administration, the Pentagon, the Three letter agencies. They

1810
01:43:16,039 --> 01:43:20,840
want all of you, and in particular, state and local

1811
01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:23,920
officials and members of Congress. They want all of them

1812
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:27,640
to think this is brand new. Uh. You know when

1813
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:32,319
you listen to to to Admiral Admiral Kirby come out

1814
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:37,239
and and throw out these just absolutely insane talking points.

1815
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:40,800
It's almost like you're watching a skit from Saturday Night Live.

1816
01:43:41,239 --> 01:43:45,880
It is it is. It is just laughable at at

1817
01:43:46,039 --> 01:43:49,479
what they really think that we're gonna buy. You know,

1818
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:53,640
Like like like Officer Grooms and Deputy Steedham said, you know,

1819
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:56,560
the good people of Nebraska, they love their country. They

1820
01:43:56,640 --> 01:44:00,199
know when the government is lying to them. We all

1821
01:44:00,279 --> 01:44:03,800
know that the government is lying to us right now.

1822
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:08,279
So their their comps plan, their communications plan, the Biden

1823
01:44:08,319 --> 01:44:13,039
Administration's communication plan to try and put the cat back

1824
01:44:13,039 --> 01:44:15,840
in the bag. Is to say, oh, this is all new,

1825
01:44:16,359 --> 01:44:18,399
you know what, We're going to look into this. By golly,

1826
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:20,920
we're going to get to the bottom of this. We

1827
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:24,640
want to know the answers to the same questions everyone

1828
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:27,680
here that's watching wants to know. We're going to get

1829
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:29,720
to the bottom of this. We're going to send out

1830
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:33,359
some special teams, we're going to send out some special

1831
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:36,000
drone detection stuff, and we're going to figure out what

1832
01:44:36,039 --> 01:44:40,199
all this stuff is. It's a load of bullshit that

1833
01:44:40,279 --> 01:44:46,600
they are selling. Every single American. It is garbage. They

1834
01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:52,000
are lying to you. Do not accept what they are saying.

1835
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:57,359
It is when when an administration, and again I don't

1836
01:44:57,399 --> 01:45:00,319
care if it's Republican or Democrat or anything in the between,

1837
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:04,680
when an administration is lining to the public and line

1838
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:07,840
to state and local officials and lining to lawmakers about

1839
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:13,560
something that directly involves this nation's national security, that is

1840
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:21,640
the most Unamerican thing you can do, full stop. It

1841
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:26,039
is absolutely un American for officials from the Pentagon, from

1842
01:45:26,039 --> 01:45:30,520
officials from the National Security Council to trot out in

1843
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:35,199
front of TV on Fox News, CNN, whatever and say

1844
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:39,960
there's no I forgot exactly what the phrase was, but

1845
01:45:41,159 --> 01:45:44,359
you know, we do not think there's a threat. You

1846
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:47,920
do not think there is a threat. You got to

1847
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:52,560
be kidding me. So the administration is saying, we don't

1848
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:56,159
know where these are from, we don't know where they're

1849
01:45:56,159 --> 01:45:59,880
coming from, where they're going to, we don't know who's flying.

1850
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:03,119
But the fact of the matter is they do know

1851
01:46:03,159 --> 01:46:08,000
all the answers to all those questions. But then they

1852
01:46:08,039 --> 01:46:13,439
won't come clean with law enforcement. They won't come clean

1853
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:17,439
with the people that are are sworn to protect and

1854
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:23,600
serve the citizens of this country. They're leaving them in

1855
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:30,159
the dark. I cannot think of a greater case of

1856
01:46:30,319 --> 01:46:35,479
gross negligence from an administration when it comes to this.

1857
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:40,359
I cannot think of any I don't know who's who's

1858
01:46:40,399 --> 01:46:44,880
running the ship over there. I don't I don't get it,

1859
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:46,840
you know. And I'm a Democrat, I voted for Biden,

1860
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:49,000
and I'm mad as hell that this is going on.

1861
01:46:50,199 --> 01:46:54,760
This is this is incompetence from an administration the likes

1862
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:58,000
that I have not seen in a very very long

1863
01:46:58,079 --> 01:47:02,279
time now when it comes to the UAP issue, this

1864
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:06,079
has been kept in the bag for many decades. Democrat

1865
01:47:06,199 --> 01:47:12,039
and Republican. Republican administrations. This is this is nothing new.

1866
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:18,960
But when they say that they don't think there is

1867
01:47:19,119 --> 01:47:24,319
a threat to public safety. They don't think How do

1868
01:47:24,359 --> 01:47:28,359
they know this when they're not when when they publicly anyways,

1869
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:31,680
are are are you know? Are you know? Are stating this?

1870
01:47:33,199 --> 01:47:37,520
You know this is a public safety issue. When it

1871
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:41,840
boils down to it, it is a national security issue.

1872
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:46,640
The fact that these vehicles are operating with impunity all

1873
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:51,000
across the United States, The fact that these vehicles are

1874
01:47:51,039 --> 01:47:55,439
operating with impunity over joint air bases in the UK

1875
01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:59,760
and at NATO bases. The fact that these things have

1876
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:04,039
have operated with in such a prolific way that last

1877
01:48:04,119 --> 01:48:08,560
year they shut down Langley Air Force Base for almost

1878
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:10,760
a month where they had to move an entire F

1879
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:15,399
twenty two fighter wing out to another air base, and

1880
01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:19,119
then just recently at Andrew's Air Force Base, these things

1881
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:24,800
shut down the airspace again. How can this administration tell

1882
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:30,319
any of us that this is not a threat. It

1883
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:34,239
makes zero sense. It is a lie. They are not

1884
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:41,640
being truthful with Americans when they say that these things

1885
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:48,399
are not just a nuisance. These are a these incursions

1886
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because they are operating and restricted airspace. If I were

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01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:56,520
to hop in a small private plane and start tooling

1888
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:59,760
around and circling over Langley Air Force BACE or Andrews

1889
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:06,479
Air Force Space. I would get shot out of the sky.

1890
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:09,079
If I had a hobbyist drone and I were flying

1891
01:49:09,119 --> 01:49:12,439
that over Andrew's Air Force Space or Langley Air Force

1892
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:16,960
Space tooling around that drone would get knocked out of

1893
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:20,319
the sky. They have the technology to do that, but

1894
01:49:20,399 --> 01:49:24,000
they do not have the technology to mitigate and even

1895
01:49:24,039 --> 01:49:27,800
detect what is going on with their anti drone technology.

1896
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Think of the millions possibly I'll just say hundreds of

1897
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:36,720
millions of dollars that the Pentagon has spent on anti

1898
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:40,119
drone technology and none of it is doing a damn

1899
01:49:40,119 --> 01:49:47,159
bit of good. Our taxpayer dollars are going to this

1900
01:49:47,159 --> 01:49:52,479
this Pentagon black hole budget that clearly is not effective,

1901
01:49:54,359 --> 01:49:59,479
and this White House is covering it up. That is

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01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:04,279
an acceptable. What is important is that all of us

1903
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:10,359
amplify these voices of these law enforcement officials. We need

1904
01:50:10,359 --> 01:50:14,680
to get these folks such as Officer Chris Groomes and

1905
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:19,079
Deputy uh Steedham in front of Congress to talk about

1906
01:50:19,239 --> 01:50:23,319
what they what they viewed. Because here's here's one of

1907
01:50:23,359 --> 01:50:25,680
the main things that I want to emphasize with this

1908
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:30,399
whole Nebraska thing, you can you can you can make

1909
01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:33,640
a somewhat reasoned argument that in a busy air space

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01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:38,319
such as New Jersey or Los Angeles, that you know

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01:50:38,399 --> 01:50:41,159
that there is a lot of air traffic, conventional conventional

1912
01:50:41,199 --> 01:50:44,560
air traffic that could be misidentified. And certainly there is

1913
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:47,039
a portion of this that is being reported in New

1914
01:50:47,119 --> 01:50:50,159
Jersey and New York that is being misidentified just due

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01:50:50,159 --> 01:50:52,880
to the sheer amount of things flying around in the sky.

1916
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:58,000
But what you know, what you were hearing specifics from

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people in New Jersey when they're talking about things the

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01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:05,840
size of cars that's not a conventional drone. The fact

1919
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:09,640
that in ord Nebraska population of what they say, two

1920
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:13,079
to three thousand people, that hundreds of these things are

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01:51:13,119 --> 01:51:18,000
operating with in a in a piece of America where

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01:51:18,039 --> 01:51:21,239
there is no noise pollution, there is no light pollution,

1923
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:26,279
and there are barely airplanes cruising overhead at thirty five

1924
01:51:26,319 --> 01:51:28,960
thousand feet that you can barely hear. What they're talking

1925
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:37,880
about is something different? Could a percentage of them be prosaic? Absolutely?

1926
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:43,039
What all of this says is that you know, this

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01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:49,359
really connects the dots to this entire UAP issue. My

1928
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:53,399
personal view is that the most of what is going

1929
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:56,920
on is likely UAP. It is most it is most

1930
01:51:57,000 --> 01:52:01,439
likely UAP mimicking. Are you know what we would normally

1931
01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:04,359
see in the sky as drones? That's my personal opinion.

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01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:08,960
The jury is still out. But when you hear behavior,

1933
01:52:09,079 --> 01:52:14,720
particularly what Officer Grooms spoke about in terms of no noise,

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01:52:15,119 --> 01:52:17,399
no uh, you know these things being as large as

1935
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:20,159
an F one fifty pickup truck. I mean, come on,

1936
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:23,520
it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out

1937
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:26,960
that you know that this is not something normal. But

1938
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:32,079
what this shines a spotlight on is the the dire

1939
01:52:32,279 --> 01:52:39,000
need for legislation to be passed by Congress that restores

1940
01:52:39,159 --> 01:52:44,159
oversight of the executive branch when it comes to this issue. Now,

1941
01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:48,640
Senator Senator Chuck Schumer and Senator Mike Rounds put forth

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01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:53,039
the UAP Disclosure Act for twenty twenty four that was

1943
01:52:53,119 --> 01:52:56,880
unfortunately defeated. It was sixty three pages of legislation on

1944
01:52:57,039 --> 01:53:02,079
UAPs and once again prop the fat cats and Congress

1945
01:53:02,359 --> 01:53:05,680
that are the recipients of large amounts of defense dollars,

1946
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:08,720
we're the ones that killed it. But here's the thing

1947
01:53:09,119 --> 01:53:14,239
this and all of this Havana syndrome. UAPs likely all

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01:53:14,279 --> 01:53:18,119
of this because I do think it's UAP is classified

1949
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:22,720
in two places. It's classified under the National Security the

1950
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:26,159
White House National Security Council, and it's classified in the

1951
01:53:26,199 --> 01:53:30,680
Department of Energy under the nineteen fifty four Atomic Energy

1952
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:36,920
Act under trans Classified Foreign Nuclear Information. These classification buckets,

1953
01:53:37,159 --> 01:53:41,439
Congress does not have the legal authority to view. So

1954
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:44,439
if you've got a special access program or controlled access

1955
01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:50,399
program related to UAP or drones or continuity of government

1956
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:55,000
or nuclear war plan, the nuclear war plans, Congress does

1957
01:53:55,039 --> 01:53:58,720
not have the ability to view that classified product. Not

1958
01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:02,479
even the Gang of A has the legal authority to

1959
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:07,479
view that product. So these classification buckets that these things

1960
01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:12,119
sit under, Congress has no insight. They don't have any

1961
01:54:12,399 --> 01:54:15,520
They don't have a window into how many billions, if

1962
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:20,039
not trillions of dollars are being spent on researching this

1963
01:54:20,399 --> 01:54:24,119
off world tech. You know, Congress, they don't have access

1964
01:54:24,119 --> 01:54:26,800
to it. They are frozen out. And this has been

1965
01:54:26,840 --> 01:54:30,680
this way for well over probably eighty years, and it

1966
01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:35,039
has it has got it has got to change. You know.

1967
01:54:35,079 --> 01:54:37,039
The other thing is that you know, we've seen time

1968
01:54:37,079 --> 01:54:40,359
and time again, whether it's local law enforcements such as

1969
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:45,960
Officer Chris Grooms or our officer, excuse me, a Deputy

1970
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:51,359
steedum that all of these folks they need, they need

1971
01:54:51,399 --> 01:54:55,000
whistleblower protections, especially the folks that are whistle blowing to

1972
01:54:55,039 --> 01:54:59,439
government filing PPD nineteen's. There is a long history of

1973
01:54:59,479 --> 01:55:03,640
the executive a branch, in particular the Pentagon from physically

1974
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:09,840
retaliating against these whistleblowers. And we need protections for you,

1975
01:55:10,159 --> 01:55:13,039
for these, you know, for these whistleblowers. You know, I

1976
01:55:13,079 --> 01:55:17,680
want to point out again the difference in reaction from

1977
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:22,880
the Biden administration during the China balloon Gate or whatever

1978
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:24,960
you want to call it, you know, compared to now

1979
01:55:25,279 --> 01:55:27,560
you know. So, on February eleventh, on previous orders of

1980
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:32,479
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, a quote small cylindrical object

1981
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:37,239
was shot down over the Yukon territory for violating Canadian airspace.

1982
01:55:37,279 --> 01:55:40,680
Both US and Canadian aircraft had scrambled and a f

1983
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:44,920
us F twenty two fighter jet made the kill. Again,

1984
01:55:45,199 --> 01:55:48,319
has that been shared with Congress? Gun camera footage been

1985
01:55:48,319 --> 01:55:53,119
shared with Congress? No. On February fourteenth, the US government

1986
01:55:53,159 --> 01:55:58,800
announced that the latter three high altitude objects shot down

1987
01:55:59,039 --> 01:56:02,680
over the North America were likely private entities with no

1988
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:07,039
relations to China. Further analysis and debris collections were underway.

1989
01:56:07,079 --> 01:56:10,760
The four AIM nine X heat seeking missiles expended for

1990
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:14,760
shooting down these objects cost at least one point five

1991
01:56:15,159 --> 01:56:21,119
million dollars. The disparity and decision making for shooting these

1992
01:56:21,159 --> 01:56:25,079
things down versus the you know, the Chinese balloon, you know,

1993
01:56:25,199 --> 01:56:30,640
both caused public panic and alarm, and now the Biden

1994
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:35,479
administration is just trying to blow this off. You know this,

1995
01:56:36,159 --> 01:56:40,279
the millions of dollars in one hundreds of millions of

1996
01:56:40,319 --> 01:56:45,840
dollars likely spent on you know this anti drone technology

1997
01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:51,079
that clearly is not working. You have to ask yourself,

1998
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:57,560
why is President Biden ignoring this? Why despite all of

1999
01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:03,199
this information, all of this data, and they know what

2000
01:57:03,279 --> 01:57:06,159
this stuff is now whether this We know in the

2001
01:57:06,199 --> 01:57:10,600
past that the National Security Council has not shared everything

2002
01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:16,079
or sometimes anything at all regarding YOUAP with a sitting president,

2003
01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:18,920
So we have no idea if Biden was even told

2004
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:22,680
about any of this. Frankly, the way he's doing these days,

2005
01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:24,399
I would be kind of surprised. If they have I

2006
01:57:24,439 --> 01:57:30,800
have no idea if Vice President Harris was briefed on

2007
01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:33,479
any of this, I have no idea. I would hope

2008
01:57:33,479 --> 01:57:36,600
to God that they are. But we know that there

2009
01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:40,000
is a history of the NSC National Security Council of

2010
01:57:40,039 --> 01:57:43,319
deciding that a sitting president or vice president doesn't need

2011
01:57:43,359 --> 01:57:49,119
to know. We know for a fact that National Security

2012
01:57:49,119 --> 01:57:54,600
Advisor Jake Sullivan, who sits of course on the National

2013
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:59,680
Security Council, is the primary actor that blocked any further

2014
01:57:59,800 --> 01:58:05,560
just disclosure of what's going on with UAP. That kind

2015
01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:10,560
of stuff, my friends, that jeopardizes our national security. That,

2016
01:58:10,680 --> 01:58:17,079
my friends, is unacceptable, This kind of gaslighting that you know,

2017
01:58:17,279 --> 01:58:19,840
they're basically treating us like we're a bunch of children.

2018
01:58:21,319 --> 01:58:25,119
That has got to change. And my message to the

2019
01:58:25,119 --> 01:58:31,760
incoming Trump administration is you have a unique opportunity to

2020
01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:36,920
turn this around. You have a unique opportunity to end

2021
01:58:37,399 --> 01:58:42,720
eighty years going of lies to not only Americans, but

2022
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:48,680
every man, woman, and child in the world. My message

2023
01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:52,399
to the Trump transition team is you have a unique

2024
01:58:52,479 --> 01:59:01,680
opportunity to lay bare the gross in competence and illegal

2025
01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:07,239
activities that the Central Intelligence agen Agency has engaged in

2026
01:59:09,960 --> 01:59:15,560
President Trump. You you are who will be President Trump

2027
01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:19,680
very soon. Sitting in office, you sir, have the ability

2028
01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:24,159
to put an end to all of this. It is

2029
01:59:24,399 --> 01:59:27,840
it is time to rip the band aid off and

2030
01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:33,520
come clean with Americans. And President Trump, you have the

2031
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:38,079
legal authority to do this. Once you are in office.

2032
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:44,520
You can declassify anything that is under the National Security Council,

2033
01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:48,279
which is where these UH these waves don't acknowledged SAPs

2034
01:59:48,279 --> 01:59:51,960
and as SAPs and caps. You, sir, have the ability

2035
01:59:52,239 --> 01:59:57,319
with a simple executive order to declassify what is sitting

2036
01:59:57,600 --> 02:00:01,680
under the National Security Council. Now, what is what is

2037
02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:05,760
under the Department of Energy under transclassified nuclear nuclear information?

2038
02:00:06,159 --> 02:00:09,479
President Trump, you do not have the unilateral authority to

2039
02:00:09,560 --> 02:00:13,039
declassify that. You are part of a panel that that

2040
02:00:13,199 --> 02:00:16,000
has to vote to declassify it, and I would certainly

2041
02:00:16,119 --> 02:00:20,399
encourage you, sir, to do that. It is it is

2042
02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:26,560
high time that the lies and the the the just

2043
02:00:26,760 --> 02:00:30,800
horrible things that this government has done. And when I

2044
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:33,600
say government, I mean the folks that have you know,

2045
02:00:33,640 --> 02:00:38,039
the people that the lifelong UH senior executive service, folks

2046
02:00:38,119 --> 02:00:43,760
that serve across multiple administrations, regardless of party. These folks

2047
02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:49,479
that have been engaged in clear illegal activity that classify

2048
02:00:49,640 --> 02:00:55,760
as felonies. You do not have a democracy when those

2049
02:00:55,800 --> 02:01:00,199
people are not being held to account. You you do

2050
02:01:00,279 --> 02:01:06,520
not have a democracy when the c suite of multiple

2051
02:01:07,439 --> 02:01:13,800
trillion dollar defense corporations, when the c suite is fully

2052
02:01:13,880 --> 02:01:21,279
aware of criminal activity that their security contractors are engaged in.

2053
02:01:22,920 --> 02:01:27,640
I'm talking Northrop Grumman, I'm talking Boeing, I'm talking Aerospace Corporation.

2054
02:01:28,920 --> 02:01:31,279
Those are probably just some of the few that are

2055
02:01:31,479 --> 02:01:36,159
likely doing some really bad things that any of us

2056
02:01:36,239 --> 02:01:40,119
that are Americans would be absolutely enraged to find out

2057
02:01:40,199 --> 02:01:44,520
what is going on. You do not have a country.

2058
02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:51,319
You do not have a democracy, a functioning democracy when

2059
02:01:52,279 --> 02:01:55,840
people that have worn the uniform, when men and women

2060
02:01:55,880 --> 02:01:59,439
that have served our country, some that have given it

2061
02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:04,399
all to country. You do not have a democracy when

2062
02:02:04,399 --> 02:02:09,199
the Pentagon and the CIA retaliates against those people for

2063
02:02:09,800 --> 02:02:15,800
stick for calling out what is going on. The fact

2064
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:21,680
that you have the Department of Defense Inspector General leaking

2065
02:02:22,720 --> 02:02:27,840
information privileged information that was given to them under a

2066
02:02:28,199 --> 02:02:35,600
a under a testimony to that office. That when you

2067
02:02:35,680 --> 02:02:39,760
have the do d IG who is saying, hey, whistleblowers,

2068
02:02:39,800 --> 02:02:42,279
if you see something bad, if you know that there's

2069
02:02:42,279 --> 02:02:45,600
some legal activity going on with this whole UAP thing.

2070
02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:48,720
Come talk to us, and then they go and then

2071
02:02:48,760 --> 02:02:53,000
they provide a private testimony, a sworn testimony to the

2072
02:02:53,039 --> 02:02:56,840
DoD ig. But then the DoD ig goes and leaks

2073
02:02:56,880 --> 02:03:01,520
that information to the press, leaks person information and what

2074
02:03:01,560 --> 02:03:04,880
that what that whistleblower said to the press, so that

2075
02:03:05,119 --> 02:03:07,439
the you know, the the pond scum of the earth

2076
02:03:07,760 --> 02:03:12,399
in terms of journalists, can can do everything they possibly

2077
02:03:12,439 --> 02:03:17,199
can to discredit that that that individual. You've got to

2078
02:03:17,279 --> 02:03:22,720
be kidding me. This system is set up to fail.

2079
02:03:23,439 --> 02:03:28,399
This system is of of the pentagon of these you know,

2080
02:03:28,439 --> 02:03:30,520
I dare say deep state, and I know there's a

2081
02:03:30,520 --> 02:03:35,159
lot of sort of a partisan baggage that goes with it.

2082
02:03:35,359 --> 02:03:37,600
But at least when it comes to this thing, this

2083
02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:40,880
sure as hell is the case. You have a group

2084
02:03:41,119 --> 02:03:44,840
of fiftiest or so senior executive service level folks that

2085
02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:47,560
have made this decision for all of us. We have

2086
02:03:47,600 --> 02:03:52,560
had no input. Congress has no input. They've decided for

2087
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:55,199
all of us. What we get to know this group

2088
02:03:55,239 --> 02:03:58,960
of fifty ist or so folks and the people the

2089
02:03:59,039 --> 02:04:04,079
leadership and Defense Aerospace, they are complicit in this the

2090
02:04:04,159 --> 02:04:10,520
fact that you have whistleblowers lives being threatened. You know,

2091
02:04:10,600 --> 02:04:13,439
it's like it makes you wonder what kind of country

2092
02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:16,720
we truly live in when this kind of stuff is

2093
02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:21,960
going on. I can tell you when I was in Washington,

2094
02:04:22,039 --> 02:04:24,880
D C. For the congressional hearing, I wasn't there as

2095
02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:27,279
the host of The Good Trouble Show. I was there

2096
02:04:27,720 --> 02:04:31,079
with the team as I'm the director of strategy for

2097
02:04:31,479 --> 02:04:35,119
UEP Disclosure Fund, and we were there to support Louel

2098
02:04:35,159 --> 02:04:38,520
Azondo in what he was doing there and in the

2099
02:04:38,760 --> 02:04:42,800
multiple meetings that we had with lawmakers. They are well

2100
02:04:42,840 --> 02:04:48,399
aware that this is real, it's going on, and it's

2101
02:04:48,439 --> 02:04:53,800
a constitutional crisis that must be corrected. You've got you know,

2102
02:04:53,840 --> 02:04:57,119
as my mom always said, it's not the lie that

2103
02:04:57,520 --> 02:05:01,399
is oftentimes so bad. It's the lie that follow after

2104
02:05:01,880 --> 02:05:05,479
that snowball to cover up the original sin. And that's

2105
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:09,960
exactly what has been going on in our country for decades.

2106
02:05:13,520 --> 02:05:17,640
The fact that everyone, I think everyone would agree, no

2107
02:05:17,720 --> 02:05:22,039
matter what your political preferences or or you know, what

2108
02:05:22,079 --> 02:05:24,640
you do for a living or whatever. I think everyone

2109
02:05:24,720 --> 02:05:30,159
watching this show would agree that as a species, things

2110
02:05:30,159 --> 02:05:34,479
are not going well. We are not as a as

2111
02:05:34,520 --> 02:05:40,039
a as a species, as as a country or allies.

2112
02:05:41,159 --> 02:05:43,600
Things are not going well. We are not on a

2113
02:05:43,640 --> 02:05:47,439
good path. What is going on in Ukraine, the conflict

2114
02:05:48,199 --> 02:05:52,359
in the Middle East. We are not on a good

2115
02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:57,239
path and the trajectory that we are on as a nation.

2116
02:05:57,880 --> 02:06:00,399
And again this is not a I'm not talking politics.

2117
02:06:00,439 --> 02:06:03,800
I'm just talking in general. You know where we are

2118
02:06:03,840 --> 02:06:12,560
as a nation. It's not good. We need the White

2119
02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:15,000
House to come clean about all of this, and I

2120
02:06:15,039 --> 02:06:18,479
am hopeful that the incoming administration will do this. We

2121
02:06:18,560 --> 02:06:22,279
need something like this to shake the world out of this.

2122
02:06:23,479 --> 02:06:24,960
I don't know what you want to call it, this

2123
02:06:25,199 --> 02:06:30,720
madness going on where we are barreling towards nuclear conflict

2124
02:06:30,399 --> 02:06:35,800
or you know, a large conflict with China, and you

2125
02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:40,640
have to ask yourself as well, God forbid we get

2126
02:06:40,680 --> 02:06:46,159
into a shooting war with China or Russia. We had

2127
02:06:46,319 --> 02:06:50,920
a one of our sources in the government tell us

2128
02:06:51,159 --> 02:06:55,720
that right now, within the intelligence agencies and other three

2129
02:06:55,800 --> 02:07:02,199
letter agencies, right now with this administration, it is a

2130
02:07:02,359 --> 02:07:09,319
literal food fight between these organizations over this whole drone issue.

2131
02:07:09,399 --> 02:07:12,479
You have all these fiefdoms and government saying no, that's

2132
02:07:12,520 --> 02:07:16,319
not my problem. That's that's your that's your directorate's problem,

2133
02:07:16,439 --> 02:07:20,760
or that's uh, that's DHS's problem. Uh No, you know

2134
02:07:20,800 --> 02:07:23,239
what that If FBI needs to be looking into that,

2135
02:07:23,239 --> 02:07:27,960
that's that's not our jurisdiction. So you've got this same

2136
02:07:28,159 --> 02:07:32,640
type of behavior that happened, you know decades ago that

2137
02:07:32,760 --> 02:07:36,880
led to nine to eleven the intelligence failures. Uh, the

2138
02:07:37,119 --> 02:07:41,600
that that happened due to these pissing contests between the

2139
02:07:41,640 --> 02:07:45,000
FBI and the CIA and other other agencies. You've got

2140
02:07:45,039 --> 02:07:51,399
that same thing happening. Now. We didn't learn a damn thing.

2141
02:07:52,560 --> 02:07:55,960
So God helped this country. If we get into a

2142
02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:59,800
shooting war with China or Russia, because the level of

2143
02:08:00,119 --> 02:08:05,039
dysfunction in the Pentagon and the CIA and the NSA.

2144
02:08:05,560 --> 02:08:10,000
NSA is another primary stakeholder of the UAP issue, this

2145
02:08:10,119 --> 02:08:16,000
level of infighting and dysfunction, we're we're screwed if we

2146
02:08:16,039 --> 02:08:21,439
get into a shooting war with a major power. This

2147
02:08:21,439 --> 02:08:27,960
this nation, This government is dysfunctional, doesn't matter republican democratic

2148
02:08:28,039 --> 02:08:32,119
administration as a as a whole, it is dysfunctional. It

2149
02:08:32,159 --> 02:08:34,920
has been that way for a long time. I remember

2150
02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:38,199
once I spoke to an army colonel asking about how

2151
02:08:38,279 --> 02:08:43,039
things go in the Pentagon and and this this person said, well, basically,

2152
02:08:43,319 --> 02:08:47,920
each individual armed service, their focus is fighting for money.

2153
02:08:48,439 --> 02:08:51,119
It's not you know, what do we need for to

2154
02:08:51,159 --> 02:08:53,920
defend against China. It's like I, you know, I want

2155
02:08:53,960 --> 02:08:56,560
to get what the air force is getting, and you

2156
02:08:56,560 --> 02:09:00,359
know whatever my senator is is saying we need to

2157
02:09:00,359 --> 02:09:04,279
spend money on it's it's it's it's the level of

2158
02:09:04,720 --> 02:09:09,039
dysfunction that I've heard from multiple sources going on in

2159
02:09:09,079 --> 02:09:13,279
the Pentagon in the intelligence community is off the charts.

2160
02:09:15,439 --> 02:09:19,239
So when the rubber hits the road and we need

2161
02:09:19,359 --> 02:09:27,640
all of that to function, well we're screwed. It's it's

2162
02:09:28,119 --> 02:09:32,680
we have too many people in in UH, in our

2163
02:09:32,840 --> 02:09:39,359
in our government that are more concerned about and private

2164
02:09:39,439 --> 02:09:43,520
defense contractors are more concerned about lining their pockets or

2165
02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:48,560
getting sweetheart deals for their for their district, UH buying

2166
02:09:48,640 --> 02:09:52,840
weapons systems that make no military sense, but it it

2167
02:09:53,960 --> 02:09:58,439
spends money in a particular lawmakers district. We cannot operate

2168
02:09:58,479 --> 02:10:04,680
as a country when when everyone is thinking about me, me, me.

2169
02:10:06,560 --> 02:10:08,640
We need to get this country back to a place

2170
02:10:08,680 --> 02:10:11,720
where we are thinking about all of us and what

2171
02:10:11,920 --> 02:10:18,880
is good for this nation, because what is happening. Is

2172
02:10:20,760 --> 02:10:26,239
It's truly a travesty. And the fact that this has

2173
02:10:26,319 --> 02:10:31,159
been going on for so long and nothing is seemingly

2174
02:10:31,239 --> 02:10:35,359
being done about it. The fact that hundreds of these things,

2175
02:10:35,439 --> 02:10:39,760
these drones which I do not think are drones, hundreds

2176
02:10:40,159 --> 02:10:45,399
of these things were harassing counties in Colorado and Nebraska

2177
02:10:45,439 --> 02:10:49,600
in twenty nineteen, and you're telling me in twenty twenty four,

2178
02:10:49,640 --> 02:10:53,039
we're supposed to believe what the administration is saying, that

2179
02:10:53,479 --> 02:10:55,359
this is all new and they have no idea what

2180
02:10:55,439 --> 02:11:00,560
this is, and they don't think it's a threat. It

2181
02:11:00,640 --> 02:11:04,399
is dead obvious they are lying to all of you.

2182
02:11:05,880 --> 02:11:10,680
It is absolutely obvious. And you know, and the other

2183
02:11:11,000 --> 02:11:13,319
you know, the other group. You know, I've I've been

2184
02:11:13,439 --> 02:11:17,800
hammering on the administration. Uh uh And again if it

2185
02:11:17,800 --> 02:11:20,319
were a publican administration, I would be saying the exact

2186
02:11:20,359 --> 02:11:25,079
same thing. But the other group that is, uh is

2187
02:11:25,359 --> 02:11:30,279
not serving our country are these uh, these professional debunkers,

2188
02:11:30,319 --> 02:11:34,359
folks like mcwest, Stephen green Street. Uh. You know, you've

2189
02:11:34,359 --> 02:11:38,960
got some of these other clowns, abnormal Chris Guy and

2190
02:11:38,960 --> 02:11:42,560
and some others. Uh. You know, this whole debunking thing,

2191
02:11:42,600 --> 02:11:45,520
it is a literal industry like if if you go

2192
02:11:45,680 --> 02:11:48,640
and you look at the Center for Inquiry in Amherst,

2193
02:11:48,720 --> 02:11:53,119
New York, which has sponsors these big debunker conventions in

2194
02:11:53,159 --> 02:11:56,800
Las Vegas, uh in, this organization that has people like

2195
02:11:57,039 --> 02:12:00,520
Mick West and Susan Gerbick from Guerrilla Skeptics build NIVA

2196
02:12:00,600 --> 02:12:05,880
Science Guide, Neil deGrasse Tyson on their sort of celebrity

2197
02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:09,720
board or whatever. This organization that has had something like

2198
02:12:09,760 --> 02:12:12,520
four point seven million dollars coming into it. This is

2199
02:12:12,560 --> 02:12:17,359
a whole machine. This debunking thing is a whole machine.

2200
02:12:17,840 --> 02:12:23,279
They are nothing but agents of disinformation. They are nothing

2201
02:12:23,600 --> 02:12:31,199
but agents of spreading conspiracies and disinformation and lies. Now,

2202
02:12:31,640 --> 02:12:34,600
my personal opinion is I think they are probably funded

2203
02:12:34,640 --> 02:12:38,920
by the CIA or some cutout. I have no proof,

2204
02:12:39,399 --> 02:12:41,000
but you know, when I look at the amount of

2205
02:12:41,000 --> 02:12:44,479
time that people like Mcwest and these other debunkers spend

2206
02:12:44,520 --> 02:12:47,800
on this, it's to me it makes no sense that

2207
02:12:47,840 --> 02:12:50,720
they would do all of this for free. But when

2208
02:12:50,720 --> 02:12:54,159
you are wanting to kind of figure out what is

2209
02:12:54,199 --> 02:12:57,600
going on with this whole drone situation, when you've got

2210
02:12:57,720 --> 02:13:04,920
a group of people like Mickwest and others that unequivocally

2211
02:13:05,000 --> 02:13:08,800
say this is what it is unequivocally say all of

2212
02:13:08,840 --> 02:13:18,920
these videos are either starlink or seagulls or an airplane,

2213
02:13:19,199 --> 02:13:21,680
end of story. I think mcwest at one point had

2214
02:13:21,720 --> 02:13:25,159
set up you know, drone flaps over, let's move on.

2215
02:13:26,159 --> 02:13:30,279
You have to really ask yourself why are they so

2216
02:13:30,760 --> 02:13:34,840
adamant about this. You have to ask yourself why these

2217
02:13:35,199 --> 02:13:40,479
nutty debunkers spend so much time on this. It doesn't

2218
02:13:40,520 --> 02:13:44,239
make any sense. I said earlier, some of the videos

2219
02:13:44,239 --> 02:13:47,319
that were on they absolutely could be could have been

2220
02:13:47,319 --> 02:13:53,359
a misidentified aircraft. There's a difference between people like myself

2221
02:13:53,399 --> 02:13:56,800
and others that are looking for the truth, whatever it

2222
02:13:56,880 --> 02:14:01,720
may be, and being willing to say, you know what,

2223
02:14:02,600 --> 02:14:06,239
that was a misidentified airplane or that was a satellite,

2224
02:14:06,319 --> 02:14:09,920
It wasn't anything fancy. Because you're open, your mind is open,

2225
02:14:09,960 --> 02:14:14,520
You're willing to go wherever the data leads. But when

2226
02:14:14,600 --> 02:14:19,920
you have these disinformation agents, these kind of agents of chaos,

2227
02:14:22,039 --> 02:14:28,199
spreading this kind of disinformation, trying to throw chaff in

2228
02:14:28,239 --> 02:14:33,840
the air, the purpose the purpose is to get all

2229
02:14:33,880 --> 02:14:38,159
of you, including lawmakers, to stop asking this. That's what

2230
02:14:38,199 --> 02:14:44,560
these debunkers want. They do not want the truth. They

2231
02:14:44,560 --> 02:14:51,760
are there to pedal disinformation. That is their job. And

2232
02:14:51,920 --> 02:14:54,439
all you got to do is look at their posts

2233
02:14:54,680 --> 02:14:57,600
when you go and you if you go and you

2234
02:14:57,680 --> 02:15:01,319
look at an account of one these main debunkers, if

2235
02:15:01,319 --> 02:15:04,079
you go and and just skim through a year of

2236
02:15:04,119 --> 02:15:13,159
their tweets, you will quickly realize these individuals are deceivers.

2237
02:15:13,800 --> 02:15:17,920
That is their goal. I think they're probably paid to

2238
02:15:17,920 --> 02:15:20,760
do that. I have no evidence, it's just a personal

2239
02:15:20,960 --> 02:15:26,159
hunch of mine. But they are not there to get

2240
02:15:26,199 --> 02:15:29,720
to the truth of any of this. They are not

2241
02:15:30,159 --> 02:15:36,079
good actors. These are people not interested in the truth.

2242
02:15:36,399 --> 02:15:42,239
These are people that will manipulate data or leave a

2243
02:15:42,439 --> 02:15:48,319
data out to prove their point because in their world

2244
02:15:48,399 --> 02:15:52,479
it is that they are basically approaching this as a

2245
02:15:52,520 --> 02:15:55,079
black and white issue, and that is none of this

2246
02:15:55,279 --> 02:15:59,840
is real. Doesn't matter what evidence you show them, none

2247
02:15:59,840 --> 02:16:03,279
of it is real, because that's their job to tell

2248
02:16:03,319 --> 02:16:11,079
you that. So when you have police officers like Chris Groome's,

2249
02:16:11,600 --> 02:16:17,359
military pilots, intelligence officials, men and women working for three

2250
02:16:17,439 --> 02:16:21,000
letter agencies that are reporting this stuff and what they're

2251
02:16:21,039 --> 02:16:25,840
reporting is clearly not from here, and you've got Nick

2252
02:16:25,880 --> 02:16:29,319
West out there saying, oh, they don't know what they're

2253
02:16:29,319 --> 02:16:32,760
looking at when you've got Nick West saying, oh, police

2254
02:16:32,799 --> 02:16:36,760
misidentifies stuff all the time, or these pilots mistake balloons

2255
02:16:36,799 --> 02:16:43,959
all the time, it's he's gaslighting you. All these debunkers

2256
02:16:44,280 --> 02:16:47,719
are doing the exact same thing that this administration is doing.

2257
02:16:47,920 --> 02:16:53,799
They're gaslighting you. These are not stupid people, these debunkers,

2258
02:16:53,840 --> 02:16:58,200
They are not just kind of religious zelots or something.

2259
02:16:58,280 --> 02:17:04,959
They know exactly what are doing and it's it's it's

2260
02:17:05,319 --> 02:17:07,600
high time we call them out on it. I think,

2261
02:17:08,000 --> 02:17:10,360
you know, oftentimes I'll hear people say, you know what,

2262
02:17:10,360 --> 02:17:13,799
you're giving these folks too much oxygen. If you didn't

2263
02:17:13,799 --> 02:17:16,959
give them this oxygen or talk about them on their show,

2264
02:17:17,200 --> 02:17:19,559
they would go away. But that is not the case.

2265
02:17:20,559 --> 02:17:22,600
I could stop today, and they're going to keep on

2266
02:17:22,680 --> 02:17:27,239
going because they have such a large media social media footprint.

2267
02:17:27,239 --> 02:17:30,000
They know that they can influence things. They know that

2268
02:17:30,319 --> 02:17:33,600
people like mcwest will be called on to CNN or

2269
02:17:33,760 --> 02:17:40,079
to do a special for PBS to debunk this. The

2270
02:17:40,120 --> 02:17:45,680
other thing too, that I would point out is the

2271
02:17:45,760 --> 02:17:51,760
mainstream media. Again, I'm a liberal Democrat, I you know,

2272
02:17:51,879 --> 02:17:54,760
I support a lot of this stuff. I mean actually

2273
02:17:54,879 --> 02:17:57,959
more of a centrist, but you know this stuff about

2274
02:17:58,600 --> 02:18:04,319
the mainstream press, the lane lamestream press. It's true. They

2275
02:18:04,479 --> 02:18:08,719
they ignore things. They they do not cover things. When

2276
02:18:09,639 --> 02:18:12,559
you know, when you have New York Times reporter Julian

2277
02:18:12,680 --> 02:18:17,159
Barnes putting out the exact same propaganda that Mick West

2278
02:18:17,200 --> 02:18:22,479
put out just days earlier, it's crystal clear that these

2279
02:18:22,520 --> 02:18:27,319
folks are doing what these folks, uh, these these lifers

2280
02:18:27,639 --> 02:18:32,879
in in the government want them to do. Go back again,

2281
02:18:33,040 --> 02:18:36,680
zoom out, go back and look at every single New

2282
02:18:36,760 --> 02:18:40,840
York Times article that Julian Barnes has done, and ask

2283
02:18:40,920 --> 02:18:47,520
yourself this question, is Julian Barnes perhaps being paid by

2284
02:18:48,360 --> 02:18:52,239
the intelligence community. Just ask yourself, after you've read all

2285
02:18:52,280 --> 02:18:56,239
of the articles that that that journalist has written, ask

2286
02:18:56,319 --> 02:19:02,520
yourself if he's being an unbiased journalist. You you can

2287
02:19:02,559 --> 02:19:05,440
see this with other journalists for Wall Street Journal and

2288
02:19:05,600 --> 02:19:10,239
other publications Washington the Washington Post. When you go and

2289
02:19:10,360 --> 02:19:14,200
you you look at at, let's just say, a recent

2290
02:19:14,319 --> 02:19:21,479
article published about UAPs or drones, if it's basically debunking it,

2291
02:19:22,000 --> 02:19:24,360
I guarant damn tee you if you go and you

2292
02:19:24,479 --> 02:19:29,600
search for that journalist's previous articles on UAP or or

2293
02:19:29,680 --> 02:19:33,799
Havana syndrome or drones. You're gonna find they took the

2294
02:19:33,879 --> 02:19:41,719
exact same stamps because these journalists are They're compromised, really

2295
02:19:41,760 --> 02:19:45,600
is what it is. You know. Fortunately, you you have

2296
02:19:45,840 --> 02:19:50,920
people like Ross Coltart, Christopher Sharp of Liberation Times, Ross

2297
02:19:50,920 --> 02:19:56,399
Coultart at News Nation, the Chris Cuomo at NewsNation, you know,

2298
02:19:56,440 --> 02:20:00,399
George Knapp uh Mark von Rennankamp you. You we have

2299
02:20:00,959 --> 02:20:04,959
journalists that are doing the work, they are putting in

2300
02:20:05,319 --> 02:20:08,479
the time, they are putting in the effort. And then

2301
02:20:08,520 --> 02:20:13,159
you have somebody like this joke of a journalist a

2302
02:20:13,239 --> 02:20:15,959
Julian Barnes at the New York Times who is doing

2303
02:20:16,120 --> 02:20:21,719
nothing more than carrying the water for the Pentagon. That's it,

2304
02:20:21,719 --> 02:20:24,719
It's all he's doing. He's not trying to he's not

2305
02:20:24,840 --> 02:20:30,479
investigating things, he's not contacting these folks. He's just a

2306
02:20:30,600 --> 02:20:38,280
parent for the Pentagon. So people like these journalists that

2307
02:20:39,000 --> 02:20:43,920
are not being truthful, that are spreading disinformation, these debunkers

2308
02:20:44,200 --> 02:20:50,920
that are spreading disinformation, these folks harm our national security

2309
02:20:51,239 --> 02:20:58,280
full stop because what they do affects what has an

2310
02:20:58,280 --> 02:21:03,399
effect on our lawmakers, lawmakers. Read a debunker article from

2311
02:21:03,479 --> 02:21:06,079
Julian Barnes in the New York Times. They think, oh, well,

2312
02:21:06,239 --> 02:21:08,319
this is the New York Times. They must be credible.

2313
02:21:08,399 --> 02:21:14,840
Right Wrong, New York Times, at least with this reporter

2314
02:21:15,159 --> 02:21:19,159
once again is not uh is has skin in the game.

2315
02:21:19,200 --> 02:21:22,360
We'll just say that you can't trust what they're saying.

2316
02:21:24,600 --> 02:21:29,600
It's it's it's it's it's ridiculous. And uh. And I

2317
02:21:29,719 --> 02:21:34,360
just uh, I I hope to God that this new administration,

2318
02:21:34,799 --> 02:21:39,079
President Trump, does the right thing. I don't think that

2319
02:21:39,120 --> 02:21:42,520
there's any president in recent history that I have would

2320
02:21:42,520 --> 02:21:45,920
have had had the same confidence in in trying to

2321
02:21:46,760 --> 02:21:48,760
do the right thing when it comes to this. We

2322
02:21:48,760 --> 02:21:52,680
already saw that President elect Trump with these drones said,

2323
02:21:53,040 --> 02:21:57,680
uh said these basic things. Uh. The Biden administration, including

2324
02:21:57,680 --> 02:22:00,840
President Biden, knows what these things are and where they're from.

2325
02:22:02,040 --> 02:22:04,559
I think he said they've known about this for a while,

2326
02:22:05,319 --> 02:22:08,719
that for some reason they're not telling the public, and

2327
02:22:10,040 --> 02:22:14,479
President like Trump has no idea why, and that these

2328
02:22:14,520 --> 02:22:18,680
things are are weird. I forgot the thing, and that

2329
02:22:18,799 --> 02:22:21,200
he also President Trump would not say if he had

2330
02:22:21,200 --> 02:22:22,799
been briefed on it, but I guarant d n t

2331
02:22:22,959 --> 02:22:27,760
you he has. So already you've got an incoming president

2332
02:22:28,079 --> 02:22:31,920
who has said more than just about anyone, certainly more

2333
02:22:31,959 --> 02:22:39,079
than this president has. So I really truly hope and

2334
02:22:39,120 --> 02:22:42,000
we should all hope. Again. I'm a Democrat, I am

2335
02:22:42,079 --> 02:22:45,639
wishing this president well that he do the right thing

2336
02:22:45,920 --> 02:22:50,079
and and and get this thing out. It's got to happen.

2337
02:22:51,719 --> 02:22:57,239
So I support this incoming administration in any work they

2338
02:22:57,360 --> 02:23:01,239
do to get this thing out. It doesn't matter if

2339
02:23:01,280 --> 02:23:04,920
you're a Democrat or Republican, you should support any president

2340
02:23:05,280 --> 02:23:10,360
that is working to right the wrongs when it comes

2341
02:23:10,399 --> 02:23:14,879
to this topic. So I certainly am am supportive of

2342
02:23:14,879 --> 02:23:17,639
of that. We may disagree on just about any any

2343
02:23:17,799 --> 02:23:22,920
anything else, but you know, policy wise, but I I

2344
02:23:22,959 --> 02:23:26,959
truly hope President Trump and his administration do the right thing.

2345
02:23:27,520 --> 02:23:31,200
I am optimistic in that the appointees that he has,

2346
02:23:31,440 --> 02:23:35,239
he's made such as Marco Rubio and other other good,

2347
02:23:35,319 --> 02:23:40,239
good Republicans, most of those folks have have either been

2348
02:23:40,280 --> 02:23:43,520
partially read in or fully read into this whole UAP issue,

2349
02:23:43,799 --> 02:23:46,520
and all of them, as far as I'm aware and

2350
02:23:46,559 --> 02:23:50,159
in terms of their public statements, have all have all

2351
02:23:51,399 --> 02:23:55,559
publicly stated that that this needs to come out. And

2352
02:23:55,680 --> 02:24:01,959
speaking of presidents, my message to any form presidential administration

2353
02:24:03,600 --> 02:24:06,600
pretty much every president now and that is alive in

2354
02:24:06,639 --> 02:24:10,000
our lifetime was read into this at some point, read

2355
02:24:10,040 --> 02:24:14,760
into the UAP crash retrieval reverse engineering program. They know

2356
02:24:14,879 --> 02:24:20,000
all of it now. President Obama has spoken publicly about

2357
02:24:20,040 --> 02:24:22,520
a UAP, saying that these things are flying around in

2358
02:24:22,520 --> 02:24:29,719
our skies. And I think President George Bush juniors said

2359
02:24:29,719 --> 02:24:32,799
some things. But my message to all of these presidents,

2360
02:24:32,840 --> 02:24:36,680
and I would say this to President Biden, is Trump

2361
02:24:36,719 --> 02:24:39,719
is going to come into office and dump all of this.

2362
02:24:41,120 --> 02:24:45,440
And Trump will rightfully be able to say to about

2363
02:24:45,600 --> 02:24:49,280
all of the former presidents that they knew and they

2364
02:24:49,399 --> 02:24:55,360
chose not to tell the American public. The incoming president

2365
02:24:56,479 --> 02:24:59,639
will come in and we know we were told long ago.

2366
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:02,520
President Trump was fully read into this towards the end

2367
02:25:02,559 --> 02:25:07,159
of his administration, so he knows everything. He's going to

2368
02:25:07,239 --> 02:25:10,600
come in and when he dumps this, people are going

2369
02:25:10,680 --> 02:25:19,639
to be asking President Obama, President Bush, President Carter, President Clinton,

2370
02:25:20,079 --> 02:25:23,440
why you did not come clean with the American people.

2371
02:25:24,360 --> 02:25:29,159
President Trump will be able to say truthfully that these

2372
02:25:29,200 --> 02:25:34,600
presidents did not tell the American public. And for those

2373
02:25:34,639 --> 02:25:36,440
of you, and we know a lot of folks in

2374
02:25:36,479 --> 02:25:39,239
Congress watch this show now. I have no idea if

2375
02:25:39,399 --> 02:25:43,879
for former administrations do, but if you guys are watching,

2376
02:25:45,159 --> 02:25:51,079
it's going to tarnish your president's reputation. So I would

2377
02:25:51,120 --> 02:25:55,840
actually encourage these former presidents to reach out to President

2378
02:25:55,840 --> 02:25:59,319
elect Trump and say, let's all do this together. Let's

2379
02:25:59,319 --> 02:26:02,479
all do this for country. It doesn't matter if you're

2380
02:26:02,520 --> 02:26:07,840
Democrat or Republican. This whole UAP issue transcends politics, It

2381
02:26:07,959 --> 02:26:14,559
transcends party. So every sitting president that you can get

2382
02:26:14,639 --> 02:26:18,280
up on stage with the President Trump and say, look,

2383
02:26:18,319 --> 02:26:22,040
this is what's been going on for eighty years and longer.

2384
02:26:22,479 --> 02:26:25,840
The country made some bad decisions, but you know, every

2385
02:26:25,879 --> 02:26:28,760
country makes bad decisions. We all do bad things. But

2386
02:26:29,399 --> 02:26:32,520
it's time for reconciliation. It's time to come clean with

2387
02:26:32,639 --> 02:26:37,200
Americans and people in everyone in the world. And this

2388
02:26:37,239 --> 02:26:41,040
is a situation it needs to happen. As Louel Azondo

2389
02:26:41,319 --> 02:26:45,239
has said time and time again, this is like food

2390
02:26:45,319 --> 02:26:49,920
rotting in the refrigerator. It's not getting any better. But

2391
02:26:51,120 --> 02:26:56,840
most importantly, this is about your national security. When you

2392
02:26:57,000 --> 02:27:01,719
have these things in the skies, shutting down our land

2393
02:27:01,760 --> 02:27:07,520
based strategic nuclear deterrent, interfering with minute Man three missile wings,

2394
02:27:08,360 --> 02:27:10,159
and there's a long history of it, and it is

2395
02:27:10,200 --> 02:27:12,760
still going on to this day, and the Air Force

2396
02:27:12,879 --> 02:27:16,239
is covering it up as they always have. When you've

2397
02:27:16,280 --> 02:27:22,120
got these drones hovering above schools in Alaska, sorry in Nebraska.

2398
02:27:22,879 --> 02:27:27,639
When you've got these drones hovering over critical infrastructure in

2399
02:27:27,680 --> 02:27:31,000
New Jersey and New York. When you have these drones

2400
02:27:31,680 --> 02:27:37,840
hovering over restricted airspace, over our nation's most strategically important

2401
02:27:38,479 --> 02:27:45,319
air force spaces that are responsible for protecting the capital region.

2402
02:27:46,120 --> 02:27:51,280
When you've got these drones operating above air force spaces that,

2403
02:27:51,680 --> 02:27:55,399
by the way, are now going to be authorized to

2404
02:27:55,479 --> 02:28:00,280
hold our nations our nation's tactical nuclear weapons. Was an

2405
02:28:00,280 --> 02:28:04,319
agreement that was recently signed with Britain that essentially states

2406
02:28:04,319 --> 02:28:07,479
that our former are our joint Air Force bases in

2407
02:28:07,520 --> 02:28:12,959
the United Kingdom, ones that are built to house nuclear weapons.

2408
02:28:13,040 --> 02:28:16,920
Will guess what, an agreement was signed just in the

2409
02:28:16,920 --> 02:28:21,360
beginning of November that reauthorizes the United States to place

2410
02:28:21,719 --> 02:28:25,920
tactical battlefield nuclear weapons back in the UK. And these

2411
02:28:25,920 --> 02:28:30,680
things are operators, drones are operating above these bases. The

2412
02:28:30,719 --> 02:28:35,120
fact that these drones are operating above NATO bases, they're

2413
02:28:35,120 --> 02:28:42,120
reported in Germany, they're frankly reported everywhere. Folks, this is

2414
02:28:42,559 --> 02:28:48,479
a national security issue. It is a national security likely

2415
02:28:48,559 --> 02:28:53,120
a threat, and this administration is fumbling the ball and

2416
02:28:53,159 --> 02:28:57,520
putting the safety of all of us at risk. The

2417
02:28:57,600 --> 02:29:00,920
fact that the men and women that would the badge

2418
02:29:01,040 --> 02:29:05,000
that protect all of us, that are sworn to protect

2419
02:29:06,559 --> 02:29:10,479
their citizens are being lied to and not being given

2420
02:29:10,520 --> 02:29:17,399
the information they need to know is unacceptable. Look, these

2421
02:29:17,440 --> 02:29:19,639
things may or may not be a threat. No one knows.

2422
02:29:19,680 --> 02:29:24,959
They certainly they have the capability to that is for sure,

2423
02:29:26,959 --> 02:29:28,879
but we don't know their intent, or at least we

2424
02:29:29,000 --> 02:29:33,799
have not been told their intent. The Biden administration they

2425
02:29:33,799 --> 02:29:36,920
know exactly what these things are. The Pentagon knows exactly

2426
02:29:37,000 --> 02:29:40,520
what these things are. It's been going on probably well

2427
02:29:40,559 --> 02:29:43,559
before twenty nineteen. So when they're acting like this is new,

2428
02:29:43,719 --> 02:29:48,799
they are not being straight. But this is a public

2429
02:29:49,040 --> 02:29:55,719
safety issue, full stop. And the fact that this administration

2430
02:29:56,239 --> 02:30:02,600
cannot even be honest with state lawn enforcement, it's just insane.

2431
02:30:05,360 --> 02:30:09,120
It would be like if let's say that it would

2432
02:30:09,159 --> 02:30:13,520
be like there's a serial burglary ring running around in

2433
02:30:13,520 --> 02:30:17,360
my neighborhood hitting houses, and let's say the chief of

2434
02:30:17,399 --> 02:30:20,239
police didn't know about it or sorry, let's say the

2435
02:30:20,280 --> 02:30:22,479
chief of police knew about it and the mayor knew

2436
02:30:22,520 --> 02:30:25,440
about it, but they made a decision. You know what,

2437
02:30:26,120 --> 02:30:29,120
we're not going to tell the citizens. We're just we're

2438
02:30:29,159 --> 02:30:33,399
going to keep that in the dark. So I'm at home,

2439
02:30:34,959 --> 02:30:38,040
you know, defending my home, and I have no idea

2440
02:30:38,120 --> 02:30:42,639
that this threat exists because the government isn't telling me

2441
02:30:42,719 --> 02:30:48,040
about it. They're making a decision about my personal safety

2442
02:30:50,399 --> 02:30:54,680
for me, I have no say in the matter. It

2443
02:30:54,680 --> 02:30:58,559
would be like a mayor, a police chief not telling

2444
02:30:58,719 --> 02:31:02,000
an entire city that they're is this burglary burglary ring

2445
02:31:02,120 --> 02:31:05,079
going around. It doesn't mean that they're gonna hit your house.

2446
02:31:05,159 --> 02:31:07,879
You may be lucky, but at least if I knew

2447
02:31:07,920 --> 02:31:14,319
about it, I could prepare. And that's not happening. We

2448
02:31:14,360 --> 02:31:19,760
are all being kept in the dark. Members of Congress

2449
02:31:19,920 --> 02:31:25,719
are being lied to. It has gone. It has happened

2450
02:31:26,559 --> 02:31:32,920
time and time again, administration through administration. In my message

2451
02:31:32,920 --> 02:31:37,879
to this incoming administration is it's time to turn a

2452
02:31:37,879 --> 02:31:41,399
new page for this nation. It's time to put this uh,

2453
02:31:41,559 --> 02:31:46,399
put this to a stop. It's it just it. It

2454
02:31:46,600 --> 02:31:53,959
has to and uh yeah, so uh thanks again for

2455
02:31:54,040 --> 02:31:57,360
tuning in. We appreciate the super chat donations. We really

2456
02:31:57,440 --> 02:32:00,760
appreciate that. And I also I would in courage every

2457
02:32:00,799 --> 02:32:06,680
single person watching this show. When you see your law

2458
02:32:06,799 --> 02:32:10,440
enforcement out on the streets, when you see man or

2459
02:32:10,440 --> 02:32:15,680
woman in uniform serving their city, I want you to

2460
02:32:15,760 --> 02:32:17,280
go up to them and I want you to thank

2461
02:32:17,319 --> 02:32:20,000
them for their sacrifice. I want you to thank them

2462
02:32:20,000 --> 02:32:23,559
for putting them in harm's way to protect all of us.

2463
02:32:25,520 --> 02:32:32,200
We need more people like Officer Grooms and Deputy as

2464
02:32:32,239 --> 02:32:36,479
Steedom to come forward and feel like they can come

2465
02:32:36,559 --> 02:32:39,479
forward and say, look, this is what's going on. We're

2466
02:32:39,559 --> 02:32:42,799
law enforcement professionals and this is what we are seeing.

2467
02:32:45,200 --> 02:32:50,680
But these folks, they have a thankless job and we

2468
02:32:50,719 --> 02:32:54,920
should all be very very grateful that we have law

2469
02:32:55,000 --> 02:33:01,680
enforcement officials like like Chris grew Rooms and Deputy Esteem

2470
02:33:01,799 --> 02:33:06,040
that are serving serving their country and you know we

2471
02:33:06,040 --> 02:33:08,479
we are lucky for it. I'm just going to see

2472
02:33:08,520 --> 02:33:11,360
if we've got any more questions here. T C n N.

2473
02:33:11,639 --> 02:33:14,559
Thank you very much for the super Chat. Very much,

2474
02:33:14,879 --> 02:33:20,479
very much appreciated. And uh yeah, so my message to

2475
02:33:20,520 --> 02:33:22,680
all of you with all of this is keep reporting,

2476
02:33:23,559 --> 02:33:27,639
call your local officials when this stuff happens. Call your

2477
02:33:27,840 --> 02:33:31,559
elected representatives and say, look, we know, we know the

2478
02:33:31,559 --> 02:33:35,079
White House is lying to us, we know that a

2479
02:33:35,159 --> 02:33:40,399
lot of these news publications are lying, and we demand something,

2480
02:33:40,719 --> 02:33:44,520
something to that something be done about this. At the

2481
02:33:44,600 --> 02:33:48,559
end of the day, our publics are personal safety, Our

2482
02:33:48,680 --> 02:33:54,920
national security is everyone's business. It is it is incumbent

2483
02:33:55,000 --> 02:33:58,280
on all of us that we speak up and demand

2484
02:33:58,319 --> 02:34:02,879
that we be told the truth, because you cannot have

2485
02:34:03,000 --> 02:34:10,000
a democracy. You cannot have a functioning democracy when the government,

2486
02:34:10,200 --> 02:34:14,319
when the administration, when the Pentagon, when the CIA, when

2487
02:34:14,360 --> 02:34:19,479
the NSA, when the FBI lies to all of us.

2488
02:34:20,159 --> 02:34:21,399
And that's what's happening now.