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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody to another episode of Tuned In when
Speaker 3: Jim Cummings. I'm producer Chris, joined as always by the
Speaker 3: legend himself, mister Jim Cummings. How are you doing today, sir?
Speaker 1: Back in the settle again. Welcome everyone, Welcome everyone.
Speaker 3: And we're very privileged today to have an absolutely talented,
Speaker 3: phenomenal just create, director, producer, actor, voiceover artist, I mean everything,
Speaker 3: Alan Tude. Thank you so much for joining us today.
Speaker 2: Hello, that's such a cool list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a few people know that you're a terrible failed mime.
Speaker 1: See I told I knew I could get him to
Speaker 1: say something. See he's still bad ass. You still can't
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: Every time I get in that box and how bay,
Speaker 2: I start screaming because it's I have clusters.
Speaker 1: Well I couldn't. I couldn't resist because you know we have.
Speaker 1: But you know, I used to you know, down in
Speaker 1: the French Quarter. I'm kind of almost from New Orleans,
Speaker 1: and I used to think, you know, the street performers,
Speaker 1: you know, they're all over and a lot of mimes. Really,
Speaker 1: who doesn't love mimes well to an extent?
Speaker 2: I can, I can? I can argue a good mind
Speaker 2: four mimes there are, yeah, but there's the bad minds.
Speaker 1: Well I thought I was going to do one and
Speaker 1: I'd be Lenny, the amazing talking mimew does he do it?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: And you get the you're doing the kite and go, whoa,
Speaker 1: look at this it's a windy of what Look at
Speaker 1: this kite.
Speaker 2: That's a k A the kite that's a kite. Look
Speaker 2: at me?
Speaker 1: You know? And uh, and then I would starve. I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: For the originality. I think I would throw some at
Speaker 2: least beads, at least I want to see your chest. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if that's if that's on the old thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so you've been to Martin Goros then, so
Speaker 1: you know that I've been.
Speaker 2: They started giving out beads just it like became a
Speaker 2: thing just around year round, it seems like in some places.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, well all of the telephone poles and
Speaker 1: wires and everything, they've all got beads hanging from them.
Speaker 2: And the and the extreme drinking has heard become a
Speaker 2: year a year round thing as well. It's not just
Speaker 2: during this let's do it, let's do it up because
Speaker 2: this is the only time we can do is. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they stray down. There's money in the budget to spray
Speaker 2: down Bourbon Street every night. Every night there vomit, thank god,
Speaker 2: vomit all cod st that's rough.
Speaker 1: Yes, great town great towns.
Speaker 2: Stay away from that Bourbon Street.
Speaker 1: It's got yeah on it. Yeah yeah, you know, just
Speaker 1: walk down once and say you did it.
Speaker 2: Then leave.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, oh look breasts okay, got it, got
Speaker 1: it and see and see.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was good food someplace.
Speaker 1: But there is good food. There is nothing but good food.
Speaker 1: I always say, if you go to New Orleans and
Speaker 1: get a decent meal, you should be pissed because it
Speaker 1: should have been amazing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: You want to call people up on the phone. And
Speaker 1: I'm not even getting a dime from the New Orleans
Speaker 1: Chamber of Commerce for this incredible ad that we're accidentally
Speaker 1: doing here.
Speaker 2: People love people who are from there or spend time
Speaker 2: their love love that place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you grew up not too far away over
Speaker 3: in the great state of Texas.
Speaker 2: Yehaw man, I grew up in Dallas, in North Texas. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't get I don't you know the good miles
Speaker 2: and miles of Texas. It's a it's an interesting place,
Speaker 2: you know. It's so very Yeah, just high on its
Speaker 2: own supply Texas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: A Texas flag above my bed as a kid, what kid?
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: He's got state pride at eleven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and why not weird? Yeah, but you made it work.
Speaker 1: It's apparently so well.
Speaker 2: It does instill in you a drive for competition, which
Speaker 2: I think is has a lot of negatives and uh
Speaker 2: in our industry, and it also has some positives. If
Speaker 2: because you need a really strong drive in the in
Speaker 2: the business too. Oh yeah, you know, overcome all of
Speaker 2: the nose and door slamming your face to finally find it.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, Well that's true. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: kind of like the old adage. You have to be
Speaker 1: able to hear a lot of no's, but it only
Speaker 1: takes that one good yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I And you found yours a while ago, so you're
Speaker 1: going pretty well, right.
Speaker 2: Well I did, I did. I found my first yes
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety six, I think five ninety six, for
Speaker 2: doing a workshop of a play called Bunny Bunny that
Speaker 2: Alan's wy Bell wrote about Gilda Radner about his relationship
Speaker 2: with Gilda Radner. He was a writer the first season
Speaker 2: of Saturday Night Live, and they had an almost love
Speaker 2: affair and became best friends. And it was a woman
Speaker 2: named Paula Kal played Gilda Radner and Bruno Kirby played
Speaker 2: Alan's y Bell. Oh, and then I played everybody else. Oh.
Speaker 2: He would have loved it, man. You would have had
Speaker 2: a blast doing that because it was a it was
Speaker 2: a character actor role. And I got my first voice
Speaker 2: over job from that because I'd come.
Speaker 1: On because they'd hear you're doing all these I.
Speaker 2: Was a French person who came a French wat there
Speaker 2: who came in, and I would say, what was your
Speaker 2: extion from age? And then I turned to the audience
Speaker 2: and say one year later and flip the cheeseboard over
Speaker 2: and all the cheese is molded. Oh. I run off
Speaker 2: stage and I turn into Gil. That's a friend, big
Speaker 2: bone Judy, who was so upset because she just her
Speaker 2: husband just left.
Speaker 3: What they're doing?
Speaker 1: Oh, that's great.
Speaker 2: And then I grew off and somebody else I could
Speaker 2: see her.
Speaker 1: I got to see her there you disappeared for a moment.
Speaker 3: Are you doing costume changes all the while?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Man, that's fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That was part of it was all about like
Speaker 2: how did he get that? You know?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: The first goal? Yeah, fat suits. But I was the
Speaker 2: only element that was doing that. And then they continued
Speaker 2: this love affair, almost love affair, and I got a
Speaker 2: roll on ice age rolls, three little bitty rolls on
Speaker 2: ice age.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: And it came from that. And it came from that.
Speaker 2: But then I didn't work, you know, because I smoked
Speaker 2: the cigarettes. I couldn't get any voice over work. And
Speaker 2: it was like the day I quit smoking cigarettes, I
Speaker 2: started getting voice over work really okay, Yeah, for nineteen
Speaker 2: years to get it to work for me.
Speaker 1: Kind of raggedy gave you the voice of like horse
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: Or once I got rid of him, my voice came out,
Speaker 2: Oh like I had just I would just in my range,
Speaker 2: but just shrink, shrink shrinks, and I couldn't didn't do
Speaker 2: anything interesting. Yeah, that's the one vice I never bothered with.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad. I'm glad for it. Yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: And I credit my dad, God restless soul. It's not
Speaker 1: that I was healthy or smart or anything remotely like that.
Speaker 1: I just thought it stunk.
Speaker 2: It does, and it does.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, because my dad, you know, he's
Speaker 1: smoking what was it Lucky strikes or I think it
Speaker 1: was lucky strikes, No camels, camels, And he would put
Speaker 1: out the cigarette, but he wouldn't put it out all
Speaker 1: the way, and it would sit there and and just
Speaker 1: smoke away. And it had that little column of air
Speaker 1: column of smoke that I could still see it, and
Speaker 1: it looked a little blue when the sunlight went through it.
Speaker 1: And then he was BALI was putting this one out,
Speaker 1: he was getting another one from his shirt. Wow, And
Speaker 1: I was thinking, Dad, just maybe some oxygen. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I just thought it stunk because it stunk.
Speaker 2: I'll still smell the some people when I when I
Speaker 2: smell it, and I can smell it, so I'm I'm
Speaker 2: somebody who was able to go, you're smoking. I can
Speaker 2: just look at a cracker. That's you're the one who smokes.
Speaker 2: It's in your clothes. But I'll still if somebody likes
Speaker 2: a cigarette, it still smells good to me. But I
Speaker 2: had to smoke in in a thing. Recently, you get
Speaker 2: the fake cigarettes that are made with herbs in tobacco. Oh, yes,
Speaker 2: you're not addictive, but oh you couldn't wash it off
Speaker 2: your hands, you couldn't get it out of your hair.
Speaker 2: It was just it's just just.
Speaker 3: And it's a weird taste too, isn't it. It's like
Speaker 3: a weird taste. It's like the fake cigarette. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: like burning a leaf. Like, Yes, I tried one. I
Speaker 3: used to work in props and I was like, I
Speaker 3: have to smoke one of these, because you know, I
Speaker 3: was a smoker too, and I was like, I just
Speaker 3: need to see, like what this taste like. And it
Speaker 3: was like the weirdest, driest like it gave me like
Speaker 3: the driest throat and like, I'd just request to smoke
Speaker 3: a cigarette if I was filming. You can't do that, Huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have. And there's a trick. There's a problem
Speaker 2: with that because you have when you smoke a cigarette,
Speaker 2: you product have to always know, you have to always
Speaker 2: keep it sort of at the same length because of continuity,
Speaker 2: and they're cutting and doing different shots and dagas that
Speaker 2: you end up smoking so many cigarettes and you get
Speaker 2: a huge dose of nicotine that it can double your addiction.
Speaker 2: That's what happened to me. It smells like an orphanage fire,
Speaker 2: the fake cigarettes, like an orphanage fire.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, nobody likes fire and an org.
Speaker 2: Not.
Speaker 1: Corella Deville didn't even like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, oh man.
Speaker 3: I heard you say on Letter Marlton's podcast that that
Speaker 3: play Bunny Bunny was kind of like reflective of your
Speaker 3: entire career. You know, You've gotten to play so many
Speaker 3: different characters, and you know, I wouldn't even I personally
Speaker 3: wouldn't call you a character actor because when I think
Speaker 3: of a character actor, I think of like over the top,
Speaker 3: almost like goofiness. But like you know, but your characters
Speaker 3: are so rooted, like they're so they're like different people,
Speaker 3: like I don't know, researching your career and seeing everything
Speaker 3: that you've done, I feel like you've had just such
Speaker 3: an actor's career, you know, gotten you to experience so
Speaker 3: many different roles and so many different paths and methods
Speaker 3: of acting. It's really inspirational to me. And it's really
Speaker 3: cool to see that because it takes a lot of
Speaker 3: courage to do that as well.
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, yeah, I it's you know I now
Speaker 2: I want to do like I want to learn how
Speaker 2: to act. What I mean by that I want to do.
Speaker 2: I'm going to do a movie in July. It's a
Speaker 2: small movie that was a play and it's going to
Speaker 2: be made into a film called Ideation. Uh and yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess I can Ideation. It's independent movies need all
Speaker 2: the love they can share. We haven't shot it yet,
Speaker 2: and it's you know, uh.
Speaker 1: To the theater near you right away.
Speaker 2: That's about a year from now. Yeah. But he's he
Speaker 2: works in corporate world. He's a consultant, one of those
Speaker 2: awful people. But he's just because he's a dad and
Speaker 2: he's just like this guy. I cannot wait to play
Speaker 2: that role because it's I can play almost crazy, Like
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm the guy where they go, who's
Speaker 2: going to play this? This is like this is a
Speaker 2: you know what, hey get Alan, get Alan, see if
Speaker 2: he has a take on this weird robot who has
Speaker 2: this thing or whatever. This is just a guy that
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of guys can play, and
Speaker 2: that's going to be more of a challenge for me
Speaker 2: than a robot pirate, which I really want to play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you played a robot pirate?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I got to mash that up there you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, one of my favorites was your your
Speaker 1: in King Candy.
Speaker 2: Oh thanks you, I mean was my favorite. That was
Speaker 2: like a license to steal. That was my introduction to Disney. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well that was a damn fine one.
Speaker 3: Yeah you won an Annie for that role, did you not?
Speaker 1: And any Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah that's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah those are cool as hell. I wouldn't know personally,
Speaker 1: but I hear. I'm sorry, go on, go on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't do the movies, do you? You don't
Speaker 2: do movies. You don't do you do Disney movies?
Speaker 1: Oh? I did a lot of Disney movies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay, that's the same. Oh yeah, oh, you
Speaker 2: haven't gotten Annie.
Speaker 1: No, I haven't gotten any I've been up for five Emmys.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: There was a talk of putting me up for an
Speaker 1: Oscar for Vanity Fair. Uh said it for Christopher Robin, Yes,
Speaker 1: and uh and and Emmy's five Emmys, five Annie's. I'm
Speaker 1: oh for everything, I'm oh for ten. Wow, I'm you
Speaker 1: are literally hanging in there.
Speaker 2: You're like the Leo DiCaprio. It's because you're so good.
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, there, you just so I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: sure that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that is it.
Speaker 2: You're I mean, but you know, hey the check Claiyers. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, well I've won, I've won one Annie, and
Speaker 2: then they don't haven't been. I was, yeah, I met
Speaker 2: somebody who works at the end and they're like, would
Speaker 2: you ever want to come and give an award away?
Speaker 2: I was like, yes, oh absolutely great. That was like
Speaker 2: two years ago.
Speaker 1: I think, well, I did it like five times, and
Speaker 1: each time I wasn't presenting like my own award. I
Speaker 1: was presenting other people awards, and I showed up five
Speaker 1: times thinking, well, you know, they asked me to yes,
Speaker 1: I bet I win. I'm just sure that I'm gonna win.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't really know. Oh, okay, next year,
Speaker 1: how about this year? You want to come? Sure, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna win.
Speaker 2: Five times in a row. And I said.
Speaker 1: Then they called me the next year. You know, I'm busy.
Speaker 1: When is it? And so I'm they're bad like that.
Speaker 2: I watched someone take that. I watched someone announced their
Speaker 2: own an award that they were in Spike Jones. We
Speaker 2: were like, what is he doing here? This is amazing.
Speaker 2: I think Spike Jones he directed that puppet remember there
Speaker 2: was like a puppet movie. It was weird. Their faces
Speaker 2: came off, it was like it was an It was
Speaker 2: an odd movie. He always does odd movies. Very cool
Speaker 2: for me. I'm sure I'm getting it wrong. And people
Speaker 2: were watching him this and going and you're missing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah that didn't happen. But it was someone who works
Speaker 2: with Spike Jones, if not Spike Jones. And he announced
Speaker 2: the awards and Spike Lee, no, I get this to
Speaker 2: so much. They anyway, he had to announce and me
Speaker 2: and then he didn't win, and it was like wow,
Speaker 2: they had him up there doing like he had to
Speaker 2: announced three awards and then the last one was the
Speaker 2: one that he was up for and he didn't win.
Speaker 2: Ooh yeah, that's rough.
Speaker 1: Oh there was the one Academy award where somebody was
Speaker 1: being really glib and said come up and get it.
Speaker 1: Marty and the wrong I can't remember the name, but
Speaker 1: there were two guys that were up for the Academy Award.
Speaker 1: This is like fifteen to twenty years ago, and the
Speaker 1: wrong Marty got up. Oh no, no, sorry, it's it's
Speaker 1: not here. It's the other guy down.
Speaker 2: Marty Feldman had to go sit.
Speaker 1: Back in fact whoever it was. Yeahful everybody wants a trophy.
Speaker 2: I thought about making a trophy case I have won.
Speaker 2: I have this one Anny. I have one very cool
Speaker 2: uh theater award that was called the Clarence Derwent Award
Speaker 2: that goes to a the actor, one actor and one
Speaker 2: male and one female actor in a season who have
Speaker 2: their New York theater debut and they win and it
Speaker 2: could be in any kind of theater off Broadway, off
Speaker 2: off Broadway or Broadway. And I won with Alison Janny
Speaker 2: that year. She's an actress. You know, I haven't heard
Speaker 2: of her. She hasn't done much sinse Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Alison Jani won that year and it was and it
Speaker 2: came with a thousand dollars prize and I didn't have
Speaker 2: any rent money, so oh wow, okay it paid my rent.
Speaker 2: That workedest. But I thought about getting making a trophy
Speaker 2: case in my house with like wrestling belts and bowling
Speaker 2: trophies and you can just go buy them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they're at a pawn shop, brand new ones made.
Speaker 2: You can even get golden glooms and things. And there's
Speaker 2: a little black market going on that. Wow, I can
Speaker 2: hook you up.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about Okay, yeah, get get an academic.
Speaker 2: Award there, you go, get a doctor somewhere.
Speaker 1: Well that's yeah, yeah, yes, wherever you want.
Speaker 2: You just buy that, put it in a case and
Speaker 2: say uh huh and invite people over.
Speaker 1: And just right, I did that, like like like Mike
Speaker 1: Tyson when he was given an award from a Tuskegee
Speaker 1: Institute or something like this. Exist Well, I never I
Speaker 1: never attended college but and to get a degree. But
Speaker 1: if I did, I would be a kind of homologist. No,
Speaker 1: And I thought, yes, yes, but you know no women
Speaker 1: have to Yeah, we know, Mike, we know, we get it.
Speaker 1: We get it. A Guyana komologist. There's a show Starbary.
Speaker 2: It would be amazing. Yeah, I wouldn't Yeah, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: want that.
Speaker 1: No, and you're sitting there smeared by him.
Speaker 2: He couldn't know.
Speaker 3: That'd be a rough one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be rough.
Speaker 3: Fun I heard that. I heard they're painful already. But
Speaker 3: enough about that. Yes, I couldn't believe when I was
Speaker 3: looking up your credits, and it's one of my favorite
Speaker 3: movies ever that you played Sonny and I Robot. First
Speaker 3: of all, what a performance, great job, great job, Thank you.
Speaker 3: I awesome movie. I have one really specific thing to
Speaker 3: ask you, just for me personally about that movie. I heard,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I was at a convention with my
Speaker 3: dad like ten years ago, literally ten years ago, twenty fifteen,
Speaker 3: over in London, and there was some guy who worked
Speaker 3: on that show. I can't remember if he was a
Speaker 3: or something, you know, one of the higher up guys,
Speaker 3: and he's telling us about that long story short. He
Speaker 3: said that for movies like that, because you know it's
Speaker 3: set in twenty thirty five, way in the future, right,
Speaker 3: that they have like a division of people who like
Speaker 3: research like what specifically could be the most accurate aspects
Speaker 3: of our future reality to try and emulate that. And
Speaker 3: as we approach twenty thirty five, I mean, look at
Speaker 3: like the technology that we have. It's not that far
Speaker 3: fetched from robot anymore, is it.
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: God, yeah, they do find cars and everything.
Speaker 3: So my question to you is do you know of
Speaker 3: like a division like that that worked on that movie
Speaker 3: or no? Or is that they have to do it?
Speaker 2: I mean to they do that, but they they can
Speaker 2: even because they're big, big movie budget people, and it
Speaker 2: was especially back then with the movie industry is a
Speaker 2: lot stronger. I remember Outing May designed the car for us,
Speaker 2: and then that was something that we had to keep
Speaker 2: under wraps and h M. Only a few people could
Speaker 2: look at it. And then it was a closed set
Speaker 2: when they had the Audi car that they were using,
Speaker 2: because it had those wheels that that are adjusted. Yeah,
Speaker 2: their globes so they can go sideways, forward, backwards and
Speaker 2: all that. There are cars now that have those. They're
Speaker 2: still they're still on the fringes, but they do. They
Speaker 2: do make them. Yeah, so they're always.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have the Hummer. Now the new Hummer can
Speaker 3: do like the crab walk. It can't go any direction,
Speaker 3: but it can go like pretty much sideways, you know,
Speaker 3: not ninety degrees but maybe like seventy or sixty or
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's cool too because motion capture was like
Speaker 3: really in its infancy back then, so you were like
Speaker 3: one of the first actors that really got to experience
Speaker 3: that then. And then years later, you know, working on
Speaker 3: Rogue one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they I want to call them the
Speaker 2: Hobbit moves. Lord of the Rings first came out, and
Speaker 2: so Andy Serkis was the one person who had done it,
Speaker 2: and that's how everybody understood it. And I got the
Speaker 2: job and I wore the spandex. It was the coolest
Speaker 2: part about it was the first month where it was
Speaker 2: just me and this guy whose name I don't remember, Steve,
Speaker 2: I remember his last name. He was a theater he
Speaker 2: worked in theater somehow. And they said, we're getting you
Speaker 2: a choreographer to work with to figure out how you're
Speaker 2: going to move. And I was like, no, I don't
Speaker 2: need a choreographer. I need ach I need a movement specialist.
Speaker 2: I need somebody. And I was like, this isn't going
Speaker 2: to this. This is a bad idea. And I was
Speaker 2: waiting at this table outside we were going to have
Speaker 2: a conference about the way the robot moved. And there
Speaker 2: was a guy sitting who came in. He was sitting
Speaker 2: over down on the same big, long corporate table, and
Speaker 2: he and I are looking at each other and I said,
Speaker 2: are you the guy that I'm meeting? And he's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're allan I'm okay, yeah, great. So we introduced ourselves
Speaker 2: to one another, and I said, I got some books
Speaker 2: and I put down Alexander technique, which is a way
Speaker 2: that we all move. You know a lot of actors
Speaker 2: and acting school. That's where I was introduced to it.
Speaker 2: It's the skelet It's sort of the ergonomic way that
Speaker 2: you should move with your skeleton, as like if you
Speaker 2: look at little toddlers, they have perfect posture and when
Speaker 2: they fall, you know, they just kind of sit. It's like,
Speaker 2: that's how our bodies are supposed to move. And then
Speaker 2: as we get older, we have injuries or we have
Speaker 2: something about ourselves that we cover up and it changes
Speaker 2: how we or we want to look cool.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that that's interesting.
Speaker 2: And so it was that I was like this, and
Speaker 2: then I had a book on mime, had a book
Speaker 2: on mime I had something else and he pulled out
Speaker 2: almost the same books. I was like, oh, this is
Speaker 2: gonna be great.
Speaker 1: Oh, there you go.
Speaker 2: So we were watching like Kabookie theater and stuff, and
Speaker 2: he was the only thing I had to do the
Speaker 2: first month was just I'd be taken to the gym
Speaker 2: to work out where they wanted me bulky so that
Speaker 2: I moved with muscle and so I got a killer shape.
Speaker 2: And then I would go to the studio and he
Speaker 2: and I would just do theater work. It was so great. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 2: And then we made the movie. The movie was great,
Speaker 2: and Will Smith was lovely, and Bridget moynihan was funny, and.
Speaker 5: You used to have a crush on her. I could
Speaker 5: see why. Yeah, she's very pretty. H Yeah, she's attractive.
Speaker 5: She's and she's also if you at that time, I
Speaker 5: don't know if she's now. She was kind of like
Speaker 5: a guy.
Speaker 2: She's like really easy, like she seemed like she had
Speaker 2: brothers or something like.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she was yeah, not not the standoffish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she had to because she wore this this is
Speaker 2: maybe no, but this, so she'd have to wear all
Speaker 2: these tight clothes, like her pants were like painted on,
Speaker 2: and she had to have a mic pack, Like where
Speaker 2: are they going to put the mic pack? So it
Speaker 2: would have to be somewhere, and when she would get
Speaker 2: done with a take, she'd nun zip these pants from behind.
Speaker 2: I remember her sitting in front of me and you
Speaker 2: could just see like half of her butt is hanging out,
Speaker 2: like boy in a hand, I'm looking at your ass.
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't like the view. Yeah, yeah, I liked.
Speaker 2: She was like really like, you're welcome, like a pal.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, like one of the guys, except with
Speaker 1: the really cute.
Speaker 2: But yes, exactly like my friend John cute ass anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 2: e noybody knows cute ass.
Speaker 1: John cute ass John. Oh my god.
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Speaker 2: month experience.
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Speaker 2: I thought that's why they were gonna. I was auditioning
Speaker 2: for Rogue one because I had done that, and when
Speaker 2: I first met the director, Caret Edwards, I said he
Speaker 2: was like, so we're going to have this robot. I
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, here's how you gotta do it, and
Speaker 2: I just was from that point. He's like, we're going
Speaker 2: to do every small film eye blinks and just we're
Speaker 2: going to do exactly that on the robot. We're going
Speaker 2: to do this this, And I was like, just stop,
Speaker 2: stop stuff up. You're not gonna do that, and don't
Speaker 2: even say you're gonna do that, because you're gonna marry
Speaker 2: yourself to something you can't follow through, and then whoever
Speaker 2: plays this role is going to feel like you lied
Speaker 2: to them.
Speaker 3: So just don't even start there.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get in post and you're gonna need things done.
Speaker 2: My face is not the same as the face that's
Speaker 2: gonna be there, and my face tells a story that
Speaker 2: that face doesn't. And once you put all the elements together,
Speaker 2: you might just need the head to bow a little
Speaker 2: bit to tell the story. And that's fine, and this
Speaker 2: is and then they then I got the role. I
Speaker 2: couldn't believe it. I was very exciting and.
Speaker 3: K Tuso is a lot more like robotic than Sonny, right,
Speaker 3: like he has he's stiffer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because I was. Yeah, and he doesn't have
Speaker 2: eyes like his eyes don't they blinked.
Speaker 3: They're like the Iron Giant like, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: They blinked at one point and then they took the
Speaker 2: blinking out because because it's a prequel, it had to
Speaker 2: be the same technology as it had to be so
Speaker 2: C three pos screwed me. It's basically what I started
Speaker 2: to see the review. And man, guy, I love what
Speaker 2: it is. We have a fun rivalry. He wins, but
Speaker 2: it's fun. And I was I was also on stilts,
Speaker 2: so I was a little stiffer too because it was
Speaker 2: I couldn't move around as easy.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I just thought it was like a character choice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. There you go said, we're gonna make
Speaker 2: this one stiffer. Okay, guys, yeah, I shouldn't me some
Speaker 2: stilts that forced me to walk a little bit. That's
Speaker 2: awesome and I lm provided it.
Speaker 1: Oh man, well you've you've had a career in front
Speaker 1: of the camera, next to the camera, behind the camera,
Speaker 1: in front of a microphone. I mean, do you dance
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, no, I don't and I can't sing.
Speaker 2: Oh I know, I see, I see. I've come into
Speaker 2: voiceover like it was Kincandy. Really is when it's when
Speaker 2: things are not a bad kickoff, right, because it was
Speaker 2: it had the nostalgia because it was Edwin and he
Speaker 2: has that great history with Disney and Ah. Then I
Speaker 2: did a small role in Frozen because the same Jennifer
Speaker 2: Lee was doing Frozen at the same time, in the
Speaker 2: way that you know they all work on the same projects. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so they were straddling a couple of projects. Say hey,
Speaker 2: we're we're reviving this thing that's been on the back
Speaker 2: burner for years called Frozen. Would you play this older
Speaker 2: man in it? So then I did the Duke of
Speaker 2: Wesselton and it was such a big hit. John Lassiter
Speaker 2: was the one who said he's a good luck charm.
Speaker 2: I was like, yep, that's exactly right. That's why those
Speaker 2: two that's worked. Yeah, no other reason but me. And
Speaker 2: once they committed to that, oh then you don't want
Speaker 2: to anyways, they didn't want to break off the idea.
Speaker 2: And so I've had this career and then because I
Speaker 2: got the green line from Disney. Then other people are like, hey,
Speaker 2: you wanted to come to a voice on this show
Speaker 2: and this show on the show, one thing led to another.
Speaker 2: But I'm just nice. I've had to learn as I go.
Speaker 2: I consider like you're real and you're truly this is
Speaker 2: something you do and you're a master of it. I'm
Speaker 2: I feel like I've just started to get going, get going.
Speaker 2: Like I'm just like, oh, I think I know what
Speaker 2: I'm doing. I think I know where where I make
Speaker 2: my mistakes, where I can get caught and making a voice,
Speaker 2: and that's the thing. I forget to act for a
Speaker 2: second and oh yeah, like you're on your fourth round
Speaker 2: of three takes and like, wait, what am I not doing?
Speaker 2: This is oh I'm not acting, and let me put
Speaker 2: myself in the place this character wants this. I'm asking, okay,
Speaker 2: we're in this play and then let my imagination. It's
Speaker 2: just a quick, you know, adjustment, and then they're like
Speaker 2: that's it and then you surprisingly move on right after that.
Speaker 1: Nice, but it's that you don't want to get.
Speaker 2: Acting, not making funny voices, right, they're acting and reacting
Speaker 2: and the whole bit.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, people forget you know that acting is
Speaker 1: part half reacting yes you know so.
Speaker 2: And with with voiceover. So much of it is the
Speaker 2: imagination because you're here in a microphone and you're filling
Speaker 2: it in for whatever you're seeing it as it'll never be.
Speaker 2: But it's what creates your side of the performance and
Speaker 2: side of the thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it helps to you know, be a little weird. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, it just does.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know absolutely, you have to be able to
Speaker 2: let the chains off on your imagination. Yeah, that's scary.
Speaker 2: Uh first, you know, I think that's that is can
Speaker 2: be scary. Can just like you're launching, you're just you're
Speaker 2: following along. You're not you're not dictating to it.
Speaker 1: See Charles Manson said that the same way that when
Speaker 1: I let my imagination go, it's scary. And I assume
Speaker 1: you have a different take on that.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, you end up saying things that maybe some
Speaker 2: people don't find fun. I mean, I mean it's just
Speaker 2: you just go anywhere, you can go anywhere, and it
Speaker 2: opens you up to people going, you're weird. I think
Speaker 2: that's the fear. Yeah, that's the scary party. That's a
Speaker 2: little too well.
Speaker 3: I think I think this topic is really interesting because
Speaker 3: one of my friends put this, like I really agree
Speaker 3: with it, and he was like, child actors are all
Speaker 3: good actors because they have no ego, you know, like
Speaker 3: you can tell them what to do. They'll all take
Speaker 3: direction for the most part. Like you don't really find
Speaker 3: bad child actors, you know, and like just to piggyback
Speaker 3: on what you're saying, you know, the fear of being
Speaker 3: weird and everything. I think that's something that gets put
Speaker 3: on us as we get older and then we find that,
Speaker 3: you know, hard to get back to. You. You hear
Speaker 3: so many actors artists talking about like getting back to
Speaker 3: being a child, you know, like in that playroom. That's
Speaker 3: a hard place to get to when it's weird because
Speaker 3: we all went through that, right, and then we developed
Speaker 3: this ego and it kind of gets in the way
Speaker 3: and then it's like, oh, I'm overthinking everything, and yeah,
Speaker 3: have you had moments in your career or yourself, Jim
Speaker 3: where you've kind of gotten in your own way?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's overthinking it is really overthinking it, you know.
Speaker 1: I jokingly say instincts are the best stinks. And you know,
Speaker 1: and if you if it works for you inside your head,
Speaker 1: it'll probably work out out in the world, you know,
Speaker 1: by and large, I think.
Speaker 2: I have an example where it did not work, okay,
Speaker 2: King Candy, Oh, yes, there's a point in the in
Speaker 2: the film and and Disney the one. Rich Moore was
Speaker 2: directing that film, and he did a lot of improv.
Speaker 2: He we would sort of get the things and then
Speaker 2: he would leave a lot of time for improv and
Speaker 2: or I guess within the sort of little scene I
Speaker 2: could just play around at a certain point. And it
Speaker 2: was where record Ralph first shows up in Candy whatever
Speaker 2: My Candy and plays Candy. I was gonna say, Candy push,
Speaker 2: you couldn't have been that, But yeah, King Candy's wild
Speaker 2: ross to race something we said in there, and he
Speaker 2: comes out of this taffy and he looks like a monster.
Speaker 2: And Sarah Silverman's character not vanellape Mutton fat anyway, von Sweetz.
Speaker 2: She's running from him. He starts tossing all of the
Speaker 2: all the fans of the spectators, He's just throwing them around,
Speaker 2: and everybody's running and I said, please everybody stop, come up,
Speaker 2: everybody calm down. I don't want to race. Ride on
Speaker 2: my hands because it's a race and you're rioting. Never mind, Yeah,
Speaker 2: did not more, God blessed us. I love the race
Speaker 2: right joke. I thought Disney didn't want a race riot joke.
Speaker 1: Believe are you sure this was Disney they didn't want
Speaker 1: a race riot joke? I can't think of anything funnier.
Speaker 2: They played it for one showing in Arizona before it
Speaker 2: came out, and it got crickets. It was like the
Speaker 2: Arab was sucked out of the theater when it happened.
Speaker 2: So that's less less of a good idea yea, to
Speaker 2: just make everyone feel afraid.
Speaker 1: So how about let's do this not a lot or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, not at all. We're taking it out and
Speaker 2: do the lines that are written. Please.
Speaker 1: Are you a notorious a liver? Because I am. I
Speaker 1: just think it's.
Speaker 2: A great thing. Yeah, I can, but I always wait
Speaker 2: for permission, and I think that's a miss. Sometimes it's
Speaker 2: a mistake.
Speaker 1: Well you know what I do, Not that I know anything,
Speaker 1: but I give him as written, yes, and then because
Speaker 1: you're going to do another take anyway, and then then
Speaker 1: I do it as.
Speaker 2: It should be. I think that's that's that way.
Speaker 1: They can't complain.
Speaker 2: Well you got yours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now now here's the good one. You know you know,
Speaker 1: so that's that's cool.
Speaker 2: Right, I'll do a little. It's you know, everybody's different,
Speaker 2: every director is different. And yeah, I find that when
Speaker 2: I am a given permission or feel that I can,
Speaker 2: those lines that I do improv are the ones that
Speaker 2: end up in the final project. That there's those are
Speaker 2: their choices, you know, because up to them, they choose them,
Speaker 2: and then there they tend to a lot of times
Speaker 2: to be the things that I get repeated back to
Speaker 2: me by fans. Uh huh. When if you're at a
Speaker 2: convention and they say, could you put this on on
Speaker 2: my picture? Then that feels.
Speaker 3: Who do people which one of your characters? Do people
Speaker 3: come up the most for a conventions? I'm curious to.
Speaker 2: Know, I goes say, surprisingly, because we only made fourteen
Speaker 2: episodes of fire Firefly in two thousand and three, four
Speaker 2: that's still a cool show. Yeah. I did Star Wars.
Speaker 2: I get you know K two s O. Hey, hey,
Speaker 2: kids really like that bird? Oh yeah me too? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, come on, good looking cuss too. Boy,
Speaker 1: there's a good looking little guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a in making. Hey hey he was a
Speaker 2: cocky rooster. He was very he was protective. I get it.
Speaker 2: Cockyster and what he did there, Yeah, they were they
Speaker 2: made that was that was how they That was the
Speaker 2: character they gave him, and it wasn't working. It wasn't working.
Speaker 2: It wasn't working, and they wanted the animes really like
Speaker 2: the character, wanted to save it. And they said, what
Speaker 2: if he's really stupid, and they said he's There was
Speaker 2: a there's like a a bar that has intelligence that
Speaker 2: you can just ranked down and they cranked it all
Speaker 2: the way down and his eyes got bigger. One went
Speaker 2: that way, one went that way, and they and then uh,
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was Lassiter, it was Lassiter
Speaker 2: at that time. Yeah. They came in and said, now
Speaker 2: that's a character I want to see. Mm hmm. And
Speaker 2: he was saved. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: He was saved.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's an animator's character. Like they're they're the ones.
Speaker 3: Who really what comes in an audition for a character
Speaker 3: like that. What they just said, play a chicken. That
Speaker 3: was giving your imagination and play a chicken.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's what they were given. They gave
Speaker 2: it to me because they were they had they've hemmed
Speaker 2: themselves in now where they're like not a given out
Speaker 2: on a roll but this is there's no I can't
Speaker 2: play any of the Islander people. So they're like, what
Speaker 2: who are you going to give him? What about the chicken? Yeah,
Speaker 2: the chicken can be from Texas, that's true.
Speaker 1: Sure, why not?
Speaker 2: And so that's how I got it. Well, he's memorable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good, he's very memorable, very much.
Speaker 2: So he should he should have had his own song.
Speaker 2: I still believe he should. And then we did it
Speaker 2: too again not a song. They don't fresh out of songs. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he can just start it out, start out the song,
Speaker 2: a big swell of music. Yeah, and then somebody grabs
Speaker 2: him by the yeah throat and that's.
Speaker 1: It and then that's yeah, two, three four, Then you're
Speaker 1: then you're in. Yeah.
Speaker 2: That would see they just but lost opportunity. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: guess I'll have to make.
Speaker 1: A three wake that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. See they're making a live action I am not doing.
Speaker 1: Oh I love it. And it's of course it's c G.
Speaker 2: I I think they do have somebody.
Speaker 1: Because they they actually I mean, do they have people.
Speaker 1: I guess for Moana they could. They might as well
Speaker 1: use an actual human.
Speaker 2: I don't know. They can't. They don't have to, I
Speaker 2: hope it's not. I think it is going to be
Speaker 2: an animated bird, but it is a it is a
Speaker 2: female who's doing it. I do all of Disney animation.
Speaker 2: This is a Disney live action. I don't cross that line,
Speaker 2: except I did once, But to play a.
Speaker 1: Bird, I don't either, but not by choice.
Speaker 2: They do. They like to compartmentalize.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, but it's a good compartment I'm
Speaker 1: enjoying it.
Speaker 2: I mean it's a neat yeah, a neat thing.
Speaker 1: No complaints over here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you're still doing your live action thing with
Speaker 3: Resident Alien. New season coming out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's coming out soon. This and June m Yeah,
Speaker 2: season four. We've done four seasons in six and a
Speaker 2: half seven years because it's been it happened like during COVID.
Speaker 1: COVID happened with the strike, and so it's everything goes
Speaker 1: messed up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kicked around, kicked down the road, I should.
Speaker 1: Say, yeah, yeah, between COVID and the strike.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the cratering also of broadcast television has
Speaker 2: been also our companion. Yeah, but Netflix started showing it and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it seems like a fun show. It seems
Speaker 3: like a good time.
Speaker 2: It is I think a show that I will be
Speaker 2: looking back on, like, I cannot believe we got away.
Speaker 2: I could. I could because he's an alien. He can
Speaker 2: do anything. We were doing this thing where I don't think.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 2: We were doing a thing this season where so there
Speaker 2: was another character. There's another character, and she's exhibiting signs
Speaker 2: of possible she's been taken over by an alien and
Speaker 2: I hate that. Yeah, you know it does happen again. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: always when you least expect it. And I say, wait
Speaker 2: a second, are you are you an alien? Hold on?
Speaker 2: And uh? In the script, I said, are you an alien? No,
Speaker 2: I can tell you're not. There's some quick thing where
Speaker 2: I decided she wasn't. And I said, this is seems
Speaker 2: very fast. What if I just can I just check her?
Speaker 2: Let me just can I just check you real quick?
Speaker 2: And so I was like, are you only?
Speaker 1: And hold on?
Speaker 2: And I stuck my finger up her nose and I
Speaker 2: looked in her eye. Oh, and then I sound no, no, oh,
Speaker 2: that's residual. That's residual, pulled on her ears. Oh you're fine. Oh,
Speaker 2: like I could do it. That's uh, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of freedom there, Yeah, that's for sure. It kind of crossed.
Speaker 1: She was probably tickled pink too. She oh yeah, thanks
Speaker 1: more nostril more not.
Speaker 2: As an actor, there's definitely a lot to play with there. Yes,
Speaker 2: as a scene partner, your scene partner comes and sticks
Speaker 2: his finger up your.
Speaker 1: Notes, what and give up show biz?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it is, it is a lot of it is.
Speaker 1: That's why you get the big bucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the big yep, those big you.
Speaker 1: Take those leaps of faith, Yes, and that would that
Speaker 1: would be one they they get.
Speaker 2: I was like the hundred. The creator says, he like,
Speaker 2: tells this story the creator that sounds so weird. The
Speaker 2: creator of the show in the beginning, Yeah, there was
Speaker 2: Christopher Shearon and he wrote this show Resident Alien, and
Speaker 2: they had auditioned one hundred and forty four people to
Speaker 2: play the role whoa and I was one hundred and
Speaker 2: forty five, And they're like, and then Alan walked in
Speaker 2: and we said that's it. We don't know what we're
Speaker 2: looking for until Alan walked in and we said that's it.
Speaker 2: What he's doing is what it is. And as an
Speaker 2: actor my thought was, the hell was I one hundred
Speaker 2: and forty five? What the hell? Man? I feel like
Speaker 2: this is pretty much obvious. I should have been like,
Speaker 2: yeah in the first fifty.
Speaker 1: Come, I wasn't. Yeah, we could have done this right
Speaker 1: out of the game.
Speaker 2: Could have been done already, Man, this could have And yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I think the casting director I had upset
Speaker 2: her years before with one of my bold choices you
Speaker 2: were praising earlier. She had asked me not to do
Speaker 2: a bold choice. Oh, and I thought, but it's not
Speaker 2: funny unless it's bold.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so I did a very bold choice and which
Speaker 2: required which required me to jump stealthily backwards into a wall.
Speaker 1: Oh. Sure, very stealthy.
Speaker 2: There are two people in the room. There's the cash
Speaker 2: director of the director. She was mortified. The director was
Speaker 2: like what is he doing? But the person running the
Speaker 2: camera and the reader both went and they were trying
Speaker 2: to not laugh, which is my favorite laugh. Oh that's
Speaker 2: good because they're they're using every muscle to stop laughing,
Speaker 2: but they still are making noise. Yeah. I felt like
Speaker 2: I had succeeded. That's right, But she stopped calling Your
Speaker 2: work was done, Your work and my work was done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but unfortunately done done, done done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I became one hundred and forty five called
Speaker 2: in But it worked out. Yeah, I did and you're
Speaker 2: here now and I'm here now.
Speaker 1: So see now that talk about your success, there's there's
Speaker 1: a path right there for you.
Speaker 2: Well, I think I could have done better throughout this
Speaker 2: career that I like, I don't know, you just this,
Speaker 2: you get you can read a script and go, I
Speaker 2: know what they want, especially if you sit in a
Speaker 2: before when we went to waiting rooms and you could
Speaker 2: look around, you're like, oh, I'm not the right I'm
Speaker 2: not the type. I'm doing a totally different take. Well,
Speaker 2: leaning into that, Yeah, I'm just gonna do my thing,
Speaker 2: and you hope for it. I hope that it turns out.
Speaker 2: It's it's turned out enough in my career that I've
Speaker 2: been able to survive. Yeah, well yeah, apparently. So.
Speaker 1: I used to like going to casting facilities where they'd
Speaker 1: be casting for voiceover and on camera, and you'd walk
Speaker 1: in to be like three or four guys dressed like
Speaker 1: me or shorts and T shirts and sandals. Then a
Speaker 1: bunch of guys who looked like they're you know, third
Speaker 1: year of law school and pissed, and you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: no there, I know there are no glasses in these lenses,
Speaker 1: in these glasses, but I look more intelligent. Yes, see,
Speaker 1: I'm a lawyer now, no I'm not.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: So while your waiter that night, yes, yeah, what I was? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did you have a Did you have that period where
Speaker 1: you you know, you you had the acting bug, you
Speaker 1: had a job or two, and then you didn't have
Speaker 1: you still had the acting bug, but without the job
Speaker 1: or two, so you had.
Speaker 2: To get a job. Yeah, And I I had a
Speaker 2: I waited tables. I started in Texas, and I went
Speaker 2: to an acting school for two years, and this little
Speaker 2: school that doesn't exist anymore in East Texas, which was
Speaker 2: had a terrible acting teacher, but the technical part of
Speaker 2: the theater I really enjoyed. And drinking beer was fun,
Speaker 2: and so I did that a lot. I've heard of that.
Speaker 2: So I grew up a little bit, and I learned
Speaker 2: a lot about how theater works and how to put
Speaker 2: on a show. And then I went to Dallas, back
Speaker 2: where I was from, and I did like.
Speaker 1: A couple of little plays and.
Speaker 2: I was in an improv troop, which taught me a lot.
Speaker 1: Big theater presence in Dallas, yes, yes, there's a the
Speaker 1: Dallas Theater Center is the big theater.
Speaker 2: And I noticed all the big actors that they had
Speaker 2: coming to play. The large roles were from New York
Speaker 2: City or Los Angeles, California. But you could be big
Speaker 2: in Dallas and you'd really have to make it big
Speaker 2: to really get one of those roles. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 2: I thought I need to go to all Right. I
Speaker 2: got a roll. I got a role in a play
Speaker 2: that was written by these two Yale God bless them.
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're doing, these two women. It
Speaker 2: was written by them and they was being co directed
Speaker 2: by them. And I got a roll and they said,
Speaker 2: here's a monologue you're going to do. It was like
Speaker 2: little vignettes. It was about age. It was to help.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we were making money, we were
Speaker 2: raising money for aise, but it was that was the
Speaker 2: main through line of all the different scenes within the play.
Speaker 2: And mine, mine was a page of rap. Well it
Speaker 2: was a they're like rap it like you're a rapper,
Speaker 2: and it was very profand I was like, she likes
Speaker 2: my bleep, I give her my beep. We do the bleep.
Speaker 2: I want to sleep, And it was they have me
Speaker 2: wrapping it. And I don't know if you've noticed very
Speaker 2: wide and I know eminem is very good and he
Speaker 2: is also very white. But uh, I don't have that talent. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't have Well.
Speaker 1: He doesn't either, so it's kidding. I am wherever you are.
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Speaker 2: So I got done with the rehearsal and they said
Speaker 2: that was amazing. You were so good. And I went
Speaker 2: home and I said, I need to go back to
Speaker 2: school because that was terrible. And I can't I can't
Speaker 2: say exactly why. I can't articulate the specifics of the awfulness. Okay.
Speaker 2: I asked somebody in my improv troupe, Hey, what's a
Speaker 2: good theater school and they said Juilliard's good. I said, okay,
Speaker 2: where's that? And I found out it was in New
Speaker 2: York and I auditioned and got in. So I'd done
Speaker 2: two years of trying to make it in Dallas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, good as it gets. It was great for
Speaker 2: voiceover because it taught me. They took my jewelliard. There
Speaker 2: were more voice classes than acting classes. Oh, which in
Speaker 2: your time, I wouldn't have counted the hours and went,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, there's not enough acting here getting short,
Speaker 2: I'm doing more voice classes, and I'm annoyed by it
Speaker 2: because it's a shape. They want to teach you to
Speaker 2: do classical theater, and so you do everything like Patrick Stewart. Yes,
Speaker 2: the guest directors going to go why does everybody have
Speaker 2: an English accent? Like this isn't an English accent, this
Speaker 2: is mid Atlantic speech. And it's just weird that.
Speaker 1: Nineteen forties Tarzan you speak?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but dozan? Where are you going?
Speaker 1: You know where's she from?
Speaker 2: She's as an African? I am going over here? Yes,
Speaker 2: what are you doing here? He was a child, he
Speaker 2: was lost. There's a whole story to it. But it
Speaker 2: was weird that he was the king at the jungle.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's true. Yeah, I always thought.
Speaker 2: Think seems strange in retrospect. Yes, but yeah, they taught
Speaker 2: me a lot about like they took away my Texas accent,
Speaker 2: which I had at the time. It was probably just
Speaker 2: a little bit like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, because you're just you're straight away. I
Speaker 1: mean there's no accent.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: That's when I get on the.
Speaker 2: Phone with my parents or anybody from Texas, it's you.
Speaker 1: Know, oh yeah, yeah, I'm sure of that now. In
Speaker 1: the West Texas town of El Paso, I was born, Uh.
Speaker 2: Wow, el Paso, right. I spent a very memorable year
Speaker 2: there through my roots are.
Speaker 1: I did too, but it was just over a weekend.
Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, but it felt like a year.
Speaker 2: What did you go to a con there?
Speaker 1: I think so. I think that was me.
Speaker 2: I wonder if we were. I was at a con
Speaker 2: in here. Somebody tried to kill the Green Power Ranger.
Speaker 2: Somebody was tweeting about it. I'm coming down there to
Speaker 2: kill the Power Ranger and I got guns and I'm
Speaker 2: going to do it. And then it kind of came
Speaker 2: around like the guests they're.
Speaker 1: Like, did y'all hear that? There's somebody?
Speaker 2: And he got in and because he was not very smart,
Speaker 2: and I guess was it was a cry for help
Speaker 2: because he was giving his location at all times. Uh,
Speaker 2: huh uh yeah almost and he had several weapons on him. Whoa,
Speaker 2: that was scary. Dang that was my last experience with
Speaker 2: al Paso.
Speaker 1: Hmm. Well, Kinky Friedman had a song oh really yeah
Speaker 1: called the Asshole from al Paso and I thought, well,
Speaker 1: here we go. Yeah it was about him, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: could have been about him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I like Kinky Friedman because his guitar was fashioned.
Speaker 1: He adapted it the guitar neck onto a toilet seat.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So it was just well no, just just the seat,
Speaker 1: not not the basin the pot, but the ring, the ring, Yes,
Speaker 1: like from the Men's are here here this This had
Speaker 1: make a great guitar. Now let's get one from best Buy.
Speaker 1: Well these are used, you know, you don't want to
Speaker 1: come on kicking? Come on? Yeah, how'd we get on that?
Speaker 1: Right to the toilet?
Speaker 2: What kind of music do you listen to? More or less?
Speaker 1: And I like Afro Cuban jazz. I like R and
Speaker 1: B really really like R and B. Yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of jazz stuff like that, not a hell of a
Speaker 1: lot of classical, not too much pop music anymore. Pop
Speaker 1: music is I don't even know what's going on out
Speaker 1: there now.
Speaker 2: Switch, that's all I know, and people with names that
Speaker 2: I don't know. One names, a lot of one namers.
Speaker 2: There weren't a ton of one namers. I was coming
Speaker 2: up staying Madonna, Yeah, Madonna, Prince Prince and then formerly
Speaker 2: known as Prince, but he's Prince.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's Prince.
Speaker 2: There was just a few really big, heavy hitters that
Speaker 2: got one name, and now most everybody just has one name.
Speaker 2: That's a well.
Speaker 1: I remember Paul, John, George and Ringo. They had a
Speaker 1: name so there, Yeah that was Peter paula married.
Speaker 2: I guess they were one name, that's true. They each
Speaker 2: shot one name.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: To do their folk.
Speaker 1: Chad and Jeremy, Peter and Gordon.
Speaker 2: They don't count all Simon and Garfunkle, they did last names.
Speaker 2: I'm a big Paul Simon fan, me too.
Speaker 1: Turn Overdrive, dude, where did this go?
Speaker 2: Downhill? Boy?
Speaker 1: He's talking about Overdrive? He's old.
Speaker 2: Have you done any uh music for Disney? See? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I did well. I guess I did one, but it
Speaker 2: wasn't very I wasn't good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I was saying a bunch of songs. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: so that was fun.
Speaker 2: I grew up with those books. I remember I had
Speaker 2: a Mary Poppin's book and you can listen to it
Speaker 2: and then oh yeah, yeah, and you turn a page
Speaker 2: or I forgot about those like sing along type of
Speaker 2: enjoy enjoy the movie again just through.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've done one or two of those. I think
Speaker 1: over the.
Speaker 2: Years I wanted to do and I pitched it to
Speaker 2: John Lassiter when he was there, that King Candy should
Speaker 2: do old songs like I used to have.
Speaker 1: A Jerry Lewis Uh Buffalo gals, catch you come out tonight?
Speaker 2: That would be great. Buffalo girls. Can't you come out tonight?
Speaker 2: Please come out to night? Oh my god, come out
Speaker 2: to like all of you. And he was like what, Like,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what are you saying? Yeah, I'm telling you
Speaker 2: we just got to do a recording. We'll do an
Speaker 2: audio release for some some old vaudeville songs. And he
Speaker 2: ignored me. And then I caught him again at a
Speaker 2: party and I was like, hey, you really, I want
Speaker 2: to I want to make another shot at this, just
Speaker 2: we should do an audio thing and he said no.
Speaker 2: So I don't think he bothered to say no. He
Speaker 2: just looked at me, like you're so strange.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just looked at me, can you freshen this
Speaker 1: up for me?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, God, you're still here.
Speaker 3: He was always very generous to me.
Speaker 2: He was very I credit him with yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: really well.
Speaker 1: He was so much pres brilliant guy. And he had
Speaker 1: a lot and he had a lot of Hawaiian shirts. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I remember. I used to have a few of them
Speaker 1: and we ran into each other a few times and
Speaker 1: I like your shirt. I cares all right, and that
Speaker 1: was exciting. They said, no, you have to go now,
Speaker 1: so I did.
Speaker 2: He was a man. Well he's working a sky dance now, yeah,
Speaker 2: sky dance.
Speaker 1: I think he's doing fine. Oh yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: we're worried about him.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not worried about him.
Speaker 3: Would you like to play a game? We have a
Speaker 3: little game on this shot, a voice swap game. Oh no,
Speaker 3: it's going to be.
Speaker 2: Bad at this.
Speaker 3: No, you'll be from Fantasy.
Speaker 2: Can I Can I tell you a story? Oh no,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're going to like this story.
Speaker 2: But I always wondered if you knew this, and I
Speaker 2: wondered if you I'm glad I'm here. I thought you
Speaker 2: might anyway. When they did Christopher Robin, when you did
Speaker 2: Christopher Robb. There was a point where they said you
Speaker 2: did Winnie the Pooh oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, and you
Speaker 2: did Tigger yes, ultimately ultimately, ultimately yeah. We both both
Speaker 2: knew that word was coming. Or one of the people
Speaker 2: that they offered it to because they wanted you just
Speaker 2: to do Winnie the Pooh was me.
Speaker 1: Really, I didn't know that one ye.
Speaker 2: Me And I said, I think Jim Cummings does this roll,
Speaker 2: and they said no, we would let we're going to
Speaker 2: We're going to someone else. I called Nolan North and
Speaker 2: I said, what the hell is this and he said,
Speaker 2: I guess it's what they're doing. I don't know why
Speaker 2: Jim isn't doing it, but if they've asked you an audition,
Speaker 2: I said no. They offered me the role. He said
Speaker 2: you should take it, and I said I can't do it,
Speaker 2: and I worked, yeah, yeah, I'm throwing Nolan under the
Speaker 2: busting the son of a bitch.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And I would do it. I would try it. And
Speaker 2: it was one of those voices. I'm like, it's right here,
Speaker 2: right where my voice needs to shift over. I don't
Speaker 2: have any access to I don't have a space there.
Speaker 2: I can't I can't. I can't do it, and so
Speaker 2: I wrote him an I letter and said, thank you
Speaker 2: so much. I love this role. Sever since I was
Speaker 2: a kid, he was my favorite role and he was
Speaker 2: the one I identified with and you know, with your
Speaker 2: work and how I just through the years, he has
Speaker 2: maintained a special spot in my heart. And because of that,
Speaker 2: I can't do it. I would never be able to
Speaker 2: do it. Justice and I thank you. And I was
Speaker 2: so genuine and loving about the role. They said, well,
Speaker 2: now you have to do it.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, you guys, you don't understand.
Speaker 2: I can't do it. And they said you have to
Speaker 2: come in now improve to us. You can't do it.
Speaker 2: So it took about five minutes and they went, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you can't. Oh jeez, oh thanks. I had to show
Speaker 2: up to fail. I was like, here's where I'm let
Speaker 2: me show you it's going. I'm getting closer. I'm getting closer,
Speaker 2: and then you know where it's supposed to be. I
Speaker 2: can't get there. It's right here, and I'm like pointing
Speaker 2: in my mouth it's here. I can't do it. I
Speaker 2: can't do it, Jesus. So they glad you finally did it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's that's that's that producery ideas. Those are those producer ideas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a weird one. We went in and saw.
Speaker 1: I took my one daughter into uh for some reason.
Speaker 1: We were both free, but they said, would you like
Speaker 1: to come in and see the shove? It's about seventy
Speaker 1: and so we go and and I won't be bringing
Speaker 1: up the fellow's name who was doing Tigger. Yeah, great guy,
Speaker 1: great actor, great guy, but he wasn't Tigger.
Speaker 2: No, And did he try to do.
Speaker 1: He came, It came across oddly enough. It had a
Speaker 1: Rodney danger Field quality. Hey Tigger, all right, I forget
Speaker 1: about it, okay.
Speaker 2: You know. And it was and.
Speaker 1: You know, and my daughter and I know that's so hard.
Speaker 2: That's different. Wish you didn't have to see that. That's
Speaker 2: gotta hurt, yeah, and break your heart. Well it was.
Speaker 1: It was funky because it was just she and I
Speaker 1: and then the producers and director sitting like eight feet
Speaker 1: behind us in the room. But the size, you know,
Speaker 1: they're sitting there, we're here, here's the screen, and and
Speaker 1: and we're going, you know, and I thinking they can't
Speaker 1: tell they can't see my face right from behind. And
Speaker 1: it was just it was it made you mad enough
Speaker 1: to smack your grandma. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was that.
Speaker 1: And sure enough, on the way home, the phone rings
Speaker 1: and jam it's mouth Foster. How are you very good?
Speaker 1: He goes, I'm sorry. I wasn't there, but I know
Speaker 1: that you saw the movie and what did you think?
Speaker 1: And I would I think it's gonna be great. And
Speaker 1: uh and he said, well, I was thinking we could
Speaker 1: talk about Tika. Yeah, and I go, let's do that,
Speaker 1: shall we. So the good news is that I that
Speaker 1: I got to do it. The bad news is they
Speaker 1: had already filmed it, and you can tell by the
Speaker 1: way it was so I was stuck with the rhythm.
Speaker 1: I was stuck with the rhythm of it, and it
Speaker 1: was really hard. And some of them we fixed, some
Speaker 1: of them we were able to fix, and others we
Speaker 1: were able to fudge, and it came out great.
Speaker 2: I thought it was just fine. I'm so glad they
Speaker 2: came down finally. Oh yeah, me.
Speaker 1: Too, me too.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a tough one.
Speaker 2: It makes me feel it makes my stomach turn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't think I've ever told that before
Speaker 1: on the podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's that's that's the Hollywood.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, that's the way. That's the way of
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned, uh, I robot, so a lot
Speaker 2: of people didn't know I did Sonny the Robot and
Speaker 2: I Robot. And there's a reason I did that because
Speaker 2: they were doing test audiences with the with the movie,
Speaker 2: and they score the characters in this kind of test
Speaker 2: audience and I've got word back, Alan, You're testing higher
Speaker 2: than oh Will Smith.
Speaker 3: Nice, it's about the slappiest.
Speaker 2: And then I was gone. I was done. There was
Speaker 2: no publicity and my name was not mentioned. They wanted
Speaker 2: to get yeah, and I was like, wait, how do
Speaker 2: they nobody's gonna know that I And they're like mm hmmm,
Speaker 2: hmmm uh and sad.
Speaker 3: That was such a good performance too.
Speaker 2: It was Yeah, I put a lot into it because yeah,
Speaker 2: because he had to move like a robot, so I
Speaker 2: had to move. It was very I you know, it
Speaker 2: was whatever it was at the time, I was very upset.
Speaker 2: It took me that that was something I had.
Speaker 3: To I mean that that freaking interview scene with you
Speaker 3: and Will Smith. I mean there's that's like that like
Speaker 3: hits you in like multiple times. You know, it's like
Speaker 3: an emotional scene and it's like giving humanity to a robot,
Speaker 3: you know. And I think that scenes like very important
Speaker 3: for the whole movie. It's because that's when we as
Speaker 3: an audience really feel connected, you know, especially when it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, can you paint the mona Lisa? You know?
Speaker 3: Can you build a chair with your own hands? And
Speaker 3: can you It's like still true to this day, you know.
Speaker 3: I guess rebrought up again, you know with AI. I
Speaker 3: saw that like a meme of it, you know, and
Speaker 3: it was like, can you create you know that? What
Speaker 3: was that? You know the meme I'm talking about with
Speaker 3: the white lady and she's like screaming, you know, and
Speaker 3: usually has the reaction with the cat. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm talking about. You'd know if you saw it anyway.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's funny how that movie stayed relevant for
Speaker 3: such a long time, especially now with all these AI
Speaker 3: conversations and everything like that. You know, it's kind of
Speaker 3: just getting rehashed again.
Speaker 2: It's a tricky thing, you know, like the voice over
Speaker 2: and the animation. I'm being I'm being and I don't
Speaker 2: anticipate even being nominated. But so when you we were
Speaker 2: talking about awards, earlier. When you get nominated for to
Speaker 2: get nominated for, let's say, an Emmy, the production has
Speaker 2: to put you forward for nomination. You're talking so uh
Speaker 2: and or where K two s O is? And they said,
Speaker 2: do you mind if we put you up for voiceover
Speaker 2: for an Emmy? And I was like, no, go for it.
Speaker 2: That sounds great. I'll take an emotion captured it. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: It's cheating kind of not to call youself.
Speaker 1: What do you mean because amated?
Speaker 2: Is that what you It is animated because they erased
Speaker 2: me and they animated. But I was in the room,
Speaker 2: I'm at the wheel, I'm with the actor back and forth.
Speaker 2: I my voice is completely attached to the world that
Speaker 2: everyone is seeing. I guess in that way, you could
Speaker 2: also say it's a hindrance because my imagination gives me
Speaker 2: a lot that never be They can't budget every realized. Yeah,
Speaker 2: my imagination has a much larger budget than But it
Speaker 2: is interesting.
Speaker 1: Not everyone could say that, by the way, or should.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, well the way the world is now
Speaker 2: anyway the business, but that, yeah, voiceover is a it's
Speaker 2: a it's a tricky thing in motion capture. I know
Speaker 2: that Andy serkis believes that he had a whole campaign
Speaker 2: that he believed that he should have been up, he
Speaker 2: could have been considered for an Oscar for performance in
Speaker 2: the movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm especially. I mean you look at him, and
Speaker 1: you look.
Speaker 2: Jesus, I'm Andy's I've you know, Andy's the godfather of it.
Speaker 2: But I disagree, and I've had arguments with with the
Speaker 2: FX guys, like I shouldn't be put up for anything.
Speaker 2: I was got Actually I robot. They let me talk
Speaker 2: to the the foreign press, so the Golden Globes people.
Speaker 2: They did bring me to that, but it was just
Speaker 2: like a conversation. And it's like all these people that
Speaker 2: are older with a lot of jewelry and clothing that
Speaker 2: looks like it could be also used for couches, like
Speaker 2: very heavy knits and weaves, hats and and they're all European.
Speaker 2: And they said, do you think if you were nominated
Speaker 2: for Oscar, you should be for this role of Sonny?
Speaker 2: And I said no, And that was the wrong answer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they said, well, you know, I said no because they
Speaker 2: changed they changed my performance here and there. I've noticed it.
Speaker 2: I've seen I said, here's how it should be done. Yes,
Speaker 2: I'll say yes, but you should watch it with me
Speaker 2: in my little green suit. And if you see my
Speaker 2: performance in a little green suit and you like that,
Speaker 2: then that's the that's what you should give me the
Speaker 2: award for because I've seen it with me in the
Speaker 2: green suit, and it's different from the robot. It's more
Speaker 2: because you can't it's interesting, especially you couldn't animate. There
Speaker 2: were like moments where he was saying, I'm going to die?
Speaker 2: Will I dream?
Speaker 1: Will it be over?
Speaker 2: And it was confusion and hope and love and fear
Speaker 2: and as humans were, we give off all these little
Speaker 2: minute things like monkeys. Yeah, and you see yeah, micro
Speaker 2: expressions and our faces flush and things that then we
Speaker 2: perceive as other humans that you can't animate. You can't
Speaker 2: put that into the lassy face that I was anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's true. That's true.
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Speaker 3: Well, it was a great collaborative effort.
Speaker 1: I loved.
Speaker 2: I loved getting to live in Vancouver for six months.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good old Vancouver.
Speaker 2: That's our favorite place. Really, yeah, I lived there. That's
Speaker 2: where we do is an alien.
Speaker 3: Oh you'd film it up there? Yeah there now VFS
Speaker 3: at VFS oh Bridge. Were it like someplace you're in Delta?
Speaker 3: You're filming in Delta way down south? Yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's where they shoot a lot.
Speaker 2: I enjoy it. We had a good time.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I guess me excited. I love the film industry
Speaker 3: up there.
Speaker 2: It's also a tight it's very cool. We live there
Speaker 2: six months out of the year. Now the show I
Speaker 2: think possibly maybe finishing here and we have a place
Speaker 2: up there, and it's like, well, what do we do.
Speaker 2: We have to we're not leaving, so we're going to
Speaker 2: be going in a couple of weeks. Because we did
Speaker 2: the winter, we have earned the summer.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, really, that's what I always say. Vancouver is
Speaker 3: such a great place in the summer. Yeah, the winter
Speaker 3: is not so fun and it doesn't really snow, but
Speaker 3: it's just not fun.
Speaker 2: It's dark and cold and rainy and the days are
Speaker 2: very short. Yeah, that's the thing. They when you wake up,
Speaker 2: especially if you're on a set and you go to
Speaker 2: work in the dark and then gets dark again around.
Speaker 3: Isn't that the most depressing feeling wake up in sound
Speaker 3: stage the whole day pitch black artificial lights, you know,
Speaker 3: like this, there's no windows in here, but yeah, and
Speaker 3: then you go outside and it's like, oh, it's dark
Speaker 3: again with like they have the orange street light. It
Speaker 3: feels so old fashioned up there.
Speaker 2: It's like one of those little uh yeah, those little
Speaker 2: lights a little like vitamin D Vitamin D lights.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh right, right, right right.
Speaker 2: Keep it, buy the coffee maker in the morning, turn
Speaker 2: on the coffee turn on your light.
Speaker 3: They have vitamin D pills at Crafty. Yeah, they have
Speaker 3: vitamin D pills at Crafty because everybody is like, oh,
Speaker 3: we need sun.
Speaker 2: Oh geez.
Speaker 3: It does its interesting, But it's like I swear, it's
Speaker 3: there's no better place in the summer. It's like smells
Speaker 3: like pine and you can see for miles so clear,
Speaker 3: and it is a beautiful place being. Have you been
Speaker 3: on like a boat out on the water there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can rent a boat and just give them
Speaker 2: your driver's license. Yeah yeah, take it out. It's okay,
Speaker 2: bring it back. You know you can drive it right, Yeah, yeah, sure, okay, sure,
Speaker 2: that's that's the agreement.
Speaker 1: I'm a pilot.
Speaker 2: I have a wow. Yeah, it's really cool.
Speaker 1: I want to go now.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is. It is beautiful. Go go everyone.
Speaker 1: I think I've been there couple of times, but yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure I've been there with you. Yeah we yeah,
Speaker 1: stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Canadians aren't coming here anymore, but you can go there
Speaker 2: and see another way to live, another way, a little
Speaker 2: more brotherly love. That's right. Although it was explained to me, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, Canadians are very nice and people think of
Speaker 2: them as like, you know, sorry and sorry sorry. But
Speaker 2: if you bump into a Canadian and you don't say sorry,
Speaker 2: then they'll say, excuse me, I'm sorry, but you bumped
Speaker 2: into me and you didn't say I'm sorry. All right,
Speaker 2: everything going, okay? Everything, don't mess with the Canadian.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, have some bacon.
Speaker 2: Put some bacon on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: Another classic character of yours that we haven't mentioned is
Speaker 3: Steve the Pirate from from Dodgeball. Beloved character and that's
Speaker 3: I just want to say that was another one, like
Speaker 3: I said at the top of the show about you, like,
Speaker 3: in my mind, not really being a character actor, because
Speaker 3: even though that is such a character, like there's like
Speaker 3: a literal twist at the end of the movie and
Speaker 3: it's just you being you know, like a normal person
Speaker 3: and not Stee And I don't think that works at
Speaker 3: all if you're not one hundred percent that character and believable,
Speaker 3: you know, like it was oh yeah, yeah, such a
Speaker 3: great portrayal of that. I think that beat in the
Speaker 3: movie doesn't even hit unless you hit that entire character.
Speaker 3: So I just wanted to say, you get a great
Speaker 3: job and it's very memorable.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I got that. I got that role because
Speaker 2: of my my ego. I read it. I read the
Speaker 2: script and I said, this is funny. If you get
Speaker 2: rid of this pirate character, this thing is going to
Speaker 2: be an hi t hit. I tell you. And my
Speaker 2: agent was like, I'm sorry, you didn't really listen when
Speaker 2: I told you before you need to focus on the
Speaker 2: pirate character. I was like, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if, I don't know, if it works, I don't know.
Speaker 2: And I went to the audition and uh uh, there
Speaker 2: were all these actors who were very good in the
Speaker 2: waiting room who were going in for the pirate. And
Speaker 2: I was like, well, if they know something that I don't,
Speaker 2: I better actually try for this thing, because these these
Speaker 2: guys are really good. Oh man, think of the names.
Speaker 2: I can't think of their names. It was a lot
Speaker 2: of good people. And so Pitty you were you were
Speaker 2: there too. George Clooney was George Clooney was there if
Speaker 2: Marlon Branda was still alive and he was there, Yes,
Speaker 2: he was the one. I he almost got it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I went to Butchino I at.
Speaker 2: First, and when he turned it down and then I
Speaker 2: got it.
Speaker 1: That's what that I knew. I knew there was a connection.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy, he looks a little like a pirate.
Speaker 2: He looks like he's be at see without some screen.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. A long time, yes, and drank a
Speaker 1: lot of salt.
Speaker 2: Water and oh, a lot of rum. Fifteen men on
Speaker 2: a didn't match chest, so I saw I had I
Speaker 2: auditioned for it, and then it was improv that got
Speaker 2: me the role because there was an improv audition. The
Speaker 2: callback was an improv audition. Oh and uh it was
Speaker 2: with Vince Vaughan and he was very nice, and but
Speaker 2: the characters had to say yarn gar in the right spot,
Speaker 2: and like, how are we gonna make money? I remember,
Speaker 2: how were we gonna make money to save the gym?
Speaker 2: And I said that we would catch whales for oil,
Speaker 2: sell the oil. Yeah, I think that got the job.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, well oil beef. Okay, never there's an old
Speaker 1: joke about pirates and.
Speaker 2: Well oil be uh hooked?
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, don't try that one at home.
Speaker 2: Kids. Oh my god?
Speaker 1: So what what is what is your Do you have
Speaker 1: a schedule we should know about? I think I should. Yes,
Speaker 1: things are coming out.
Speaker 2: I don't need to, oh, like what I'm doing in
Speaker 2: my career.
Speaker 1: Anything that or conventions whatever you have.
Speaker 2: No, I mean I'm resident Alien is coming out and
Speaker 2: that's going to be you know. I got to direct
Speaker 2: a couple of episodes. No way, Yeah, directed the first two.
Speaker 1: Is that typical? Well I'm acting now, but I really
Speaker 1: wanted to be erect.
Speaker 2: I was given the opportunity and it seemed like I
Speaker 2: should do it because when else am I going to
Speaker 2: get the opportunity to just direct with because you can? Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I had done it before on this little thing.
Speaker 2: That I did with Nolan North, actually called con Man
Speaker 2: about Conventions. We raised a ton of money from fans
Speaker 2: and made this little film about the cons not a film,
Speaker 2: a little It was like a limited series subject, short
Speaker 2: subject thing, and I had so much fun writing that
Speaker 2: and directing it. I directed it mainly because I was
Speaker 2: too afraid to ask directors and.
Speaker 1: Well, did you did you go to conventions?
Speaker 2: And yeah, I've been, because I've been to so many.
Speaker 2: Oh we didn't film, We didn't film at any conventions.
Speaker 2: We made some. But Nolan North was the second best
Speaker 2: motion capture artist I met. I met Nolan doing a
Speaker 2: video game because I got to offer to do motion
Speaker 2: capture for a video game and I was like, that's
Speaker 2: going to be great for comment I would just take
Speaker 2: jobs for whatever I could write comment about. And met
Speaker 2: Nolan and I was like, I had been thinking this
Speaker 2: other actor in England for this character to play the
Speaker 2: second best motion capture artist. But Nolan North was doing
Speaker 2: the character and he called him Jerry Lansing and he
Speaker 2: got everybody's name wrong and so changed his name to
Speaker 2: Jerry Lancing and hired him to do it. And he
Speaker 2: hates Sandy Serkis. That's the defining quality. He hates Sandy
Speaker 2: Cirkis because he's the best. So he's like, probably does
Speaker 2: his monkeys. Oh god, Smiegel was a gibbon and.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah he was.
Speaker 2: He was the greatest. But so I directed that and
Speaker 2: I hadn't directed since, and uh, I don't think it's
Speaker 2: a really good idea to direct yourself because you can't.
Speaker 1: But I did it, will do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would be weird. I had my wife.
Speaker 2: My wife was there and she's a choreographer, and choreographers
Speaker 2: have a director's eye, and so she would direct me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it couldn't hurt to have someone
Speaker 1: there who is used to telling you you suck, yes.
Speaker 2: Exactly, and knows, yeah, knows what I want. She knows.
Speaker 2: She knows what I like and what I don't like.
Speaker 2: I think more or less, and yeah, God bless her.
Speaker 2: She's also a martyr about shots. Like I cared about
Speaker 2: the comedy. When it came to the comedy, I had
Speaker 2: lots of ideas like how it needed be done it no, no, no,
Speaker 2: that isn't funny, but this is funny. I was happy
Speaker 2: that I had those ideas. She would be like, we
Speaker 2: need a crane for this shot. We do. Oh good,
Speaker 2: let's talk about that. So all of the pre production
Speaker 2: she was very instrumental. That's awesome, nice cool, And that's
Speaker 2: con Man' oh no, that was that's resonating. But con
Speaker 2: Man was the other one. Yeah, comment, don't watch it,
Speaker 2: don't watch it. It didn't age well, it doesn't. It
Speaker 2: doesn't work today. You know that I was a first
Speaker 2: time writer, and you know, everybody likes to do some
Speaker 2: edgy mm hmm, and it's it turns out you have
Speaker 2: to be really good at edgy to pull it off.
Speaker 2: And some of the stuff, even though my heart was
Speaker 2: in the right place, Like, I did a thing about
Speaker 2: voiceover artists because I had I had been asked early
Speaker 2: in my voiceover career to do I played a Korean character.
Speaker 2: I played a black character. I played a Hispanic character.
Speaker 2: I played a super gay, like over the top you
Speaker 2: know gay character that I found. I'm like doing it, Like,
Speaker 2: isn't this offensive? This is offensive? I mean, if you're gay,
Speaker 2: this would be.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the character the voice of Repster, which I think
Speaker 2: is probably one of the best ones. I end up
Speaker 2: going to a panel as a voiceover actor. I had
Speaker 2: done work on something called I Forget, but I played
Speaker 2: only minority characters and I end up on a panel
Speaker 2: that's about Uh, it's all about inclusiveness and inclusive inclusiveness,
Speaker 2: so that that where people get to actually do their
Speaker 2: own you know, they aren't they aren't being asked to
Speaker 2: do caricatures. They're doing you know, true inspirational roles. They're
Speaker 2: playing kings and things like that. Black artists are playing
Speaker 2: kings and stuff. And I'm I'm there playing Rigmarole, who
Speaker 2: was an awful pimprimaroo. Yeah, he talked, oh ship and
Speaker 2: it was a character I had done on an MTV.
Speaker 1: Is it hard out there for a pimp?
Speaker 2: Well, for Rigmarole it was.
Speaker 1: But that's what I hear. It's hard out here for
Speaker 1: a pimp. That's what I've heard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I but don't don't. So Like my heart
Speaker 2: was in the right place because I was pointing out, hey,
Speaker 2: this is bad that people are representing you know, that
Speaker 2: we're doing these caricatures, and I was doing it in
Speaker 2: a way, but it also to do it, you have
Speaker 2: to then do all those characters and some people might
Speaker 2: find them offensive. I did a character about it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Like as far as gender and gay or straight, it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter what you are. Love is the most important part.
Speaker 2: But to do that, I had somebody who was pretending
Speaker 2: to be trans to get laid. That's not a good idea.
Speaker 1: Pretending to be trans to get laid.
Speaker 2: By Leslie Jordan, who was also playing a straight guy
Speaker 2: who was pretended to be gay. Because it brings in
Speaker 2: the cougars, because they they because they they they lie
Speaker 2: to themselves. He says, like cougars, they lie to themselves.
Speaker 2: They say that homosexuality is a choice, and they know
Speaker 2: it's a deep, dark lie, and so they've got this
Speaker 2: hollow in their heart. And and you know what, I
Speaker 2: fill up that hole with my big old dick. Tell
Speaker 2: them you're right. Homosexuality is a choice, and I now
Speaker 2: choose you. And they give themselves over to me one
Speaker 2: hundred percent because it backs up their warped worldview. I
Speaker 2: saved their lives. They let me do butt stuff whatever
Speaker 2: I want. But don't watch it. But don't watch it,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
Speaker 4: God.
Speaker 2: So I was trying to tell this story, trying to
Speaker 2: tell the story with Edgy anyway, what I'm saying is
Speaker 2: it was a good time. Nolan North is fantastic in it.
Speaker 2: The voice of episode is is my favorite.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's amazing. We probably won't be making any
Speaker 1: more of them, no no sequels.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe one day I could make them for YouTube,
Speaker 2: since YouTube's the most stream service out there of all
Speaker 2: the streaming services. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you have a big presence on social media?
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't. I don't know how to work it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I haven't had anybody teach me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it takes the team. Takes a team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and evidently if you know it, it's easy. I
Speaker 2: just don't. You got to let people into your life
Speaker 2: a lot, and yeah, I never know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how much like our buddy Nathan, you know, some
Speaker 1: people just have it to a science. Yeah really, and
Speaker 1: I'm not one of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, I could go on and do songs,
Speaker 4: vaudeville songs as King Candy and that could I could
Speaker 4: probably get some clicks from that.
Speaker 2: But the whole idea of content just pisses me off.
Speaker 2: I'm somebody who does not like that word. Contents is
Speaker 2: like the only other time you hear is like the
Speaker 2: contents like on detective shows, like what are the contents
Speaker 2: of his stomach? Well, his last meal was it's not art,
Speaker 2: it's art, it's stories.
Speaker 1: It's I'm that yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a story guy.
Speaker 2: That's what it's about. Art. Art saves the world.
Speaker 1: Well, that's I think somewhere woven into the fabric of Disney.
Speaker 2: Is that thread that you just it all?
Speaker 1: You know, it all started out with the mouse and
Speaker 1: and I think that was his number one thing he
Speaker 1: said first. You know, it could be outer space, it
Speaker 1: could be Cowboys, it could be you know, ancient rome
Speaker 1: it's the story, the story, the story, and that then
Speaker 1: from there, you know, the rest is actually kind of details.
Speaker 1: You know, Romeo and Juliet was a story. You know,
Speaker 1: look at Shakespeare he was apparently good at it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was able to pull off a few stories.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And isn't there a trope out there that said there
Speaker 1: are only seven stories?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a bit seven or twelve. Ye, it's different
Speaker 2: on that, but it's a hero goes on a journey. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that kind you know that they boil it down to
Speaker 2: the most basic. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Do it now?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: Well, why don't you describe the voice swap game?
Speaker 2: Ah? I need to urinate okay, and I don't want
Speaker 2: to do it in my pants again?
Speaker 1: Okay, just again?
Speaker 2: So much clean up? Yeah? Yeah, I wore my pan pants,
Speaker 2: but I.
Speaker 1: Shall Okay, let's shall we dive in and get this
Speaker 1: over with.
Speaker 3: Let's gotta go body.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, let me see. Okay, am I going
Speaker 2: to try to do one of your voices?
Speaker 1: Is not gonna work?
Speaker 2: Well, that's okay. Can you explain it.
Speaker 1: I'll give you, give you a phrase of dark wing
Speaker 1: Ducks say, for instance, and then you say the same
Speaker 1: phrase back in one of your characters.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Then you give me one in your character voice and
Speaker 1: I'll sing it back.
Speaker 2: I'm not a voice, okay, go on.
Speaker 1: Okay, how about how about King Louis from Jungle Book?
Speaker 2: And are you doing King Louis?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but not in Jungle Book the original?
Speaker 2: But I know since since then, you're Yeah, you're Louis Prima.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes I am. And uh and so I think
Speaker 1: I'll steal a little bit from the song. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: the King of the Swingers. Woa the Jungle v I P.
Speaker 1: That's it, I'm the King of the Swingers. Woa the
Speaker 1: Jungle v I P. In your character, King Candy, I'm
Speaker 1: the king.
Speaker 2: If this swings, ho the jungle vi I P. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he had too many hopes. That was good. That's what
Speaker 2: the king says.
Speaker 1: No such thing as too many hopes, that's what. But seriously,
Speaker 1: all right now, so now I'll.
Speaker 2: Do a character and uh, okay, oh all right, I'm
Speaker 2: this is the Duke of Westleton from Frozen. I dance
Speaker 2: like a chicken with the face of a monkey.
Speaker 1: I fly. I dance like a chicken with the face
Speaker 1: of a monkey.
Speaker 2: I fly.
Speaker 1: Would break drag Tigger into that?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: How about how about two fellow pirates? How about Don
Speaker 3: Carnage and oh Steve the Pirate.
Speaker 1: All right, that's true, Okay, Don corne You know something,
Speaker 1: if I wasn't already me, I would envy you because
Speaker 1: you get to meet me.
Speaker 2: If I wasn't already me, I would not be you.
Speaker 1: I would envy you. I would envy you because you
Speaker 1: get to meet me.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Steve the Pirate is the longest line
Speaker 2: he's ever had.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if he were not.
Speaker 2: You, no, if I were not me, I would envy
Speaker 2: you because you get to meet me. I guess that's
Speaker 2: pretty good.
Speaker 1: That's pretty severely bodacious.
Speaker 2: Okay, uh, oil boy must have many others. Hey hey, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: here's hey hey falling off the boat Okay, into the
Speaker 2: water and then he comes up. Yeah, how do you
Speaker 2: do that in anybody else?
Speaker 1: And anybody else? I don't know, how about maybe Taz?
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Taz doesn't really speak.
Speaker 1: It was just it was weird. It was like we
Speaker 1: were in the room.
Speaker 2: It makes sense.
Speaker 1: Thanks for being here, buddy.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. Did we ask if there's anything upcoming?
Speaker 2: We should? Ye?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just uh.
Speaker 2: There you go, and yeah that's it, be there, be there.
Speaker 2: You're gonna chill some after that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, well, thanks you very much.
Speaker 2: Wow, thank you absolutely thank you.
Speaker 3: Thank you guys all for watching. I hope you enjoyed
Speaker 3: that episode. This was another episode of Tuned In with
Speaker 3: Jim Cummings. I'm producer Chris Jim Cummings. Alan Tudic, thank
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Speaker 2: Cheers the end.
Speaker 1: Why just that easy?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna run and pee.
Speaker 1: Yes play, I'll wait out here. It is made for
Speaker 1: p