Speaker 1: We got a nice program to day. Were welcoming back
Speaker 1: Jin Do on the other side of the country here
Speaker 1: in the United States. And you know, it's funny because
Speaker 1: I was thinking of Jim when the SAR scan came out.
Speaker 1: I wondered, what would jin think of this amazing scan? Now,
Speaker 1: you guys know what I think. I think the interpretation
Speaker 1: of the data has kind of gone to the extreme side,
Speaker 1: which means that they are making things up, especially when
Speaker 1: it comes to a press release that says they think
Speaker 1: there's another city underneath the Caffrey Pyramid, which is kind
Speaker 1: of excessive. But I have Jim with me and Jen.
Speaker 1: It's great to see you. How you in.
Speaker 2: I'm good. Good to see you too, Cliff.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, always fun to have you. All right, girl,
Speaker 1: what's going on with this SAR Synthetic Aperture Radar scan.
Speaker 1: You saw the data, right, I did?
Speaker 2: I did so. The researchers, these researchers from where are
Speaker 2: they from? They are from? Yeah, these folks. They're determining
Speaker 2: that they found eight vertical cylindrical shape structures referred to
Speaker 2: as shafts, extending approximately twenty one hundred feet deep below
Speaker 2: the pyramids. And you know, there's still a lot of
Speaker 2: meeting to have pure review of these structures. Oh you
Speaker 2: squinched your face. What does that mean?
Speaker 1: I think that there is something there, but you know,
Speaker 1: they're saying there's columns around these are these stairways around
Speaker 1: these columns that there's as it's a half mile down
Speaker 1: under the ground. It's like, I don't think the technology
Speaker 1: can actually pierce that much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, my first my first take on it was,
Speaker 2: you know, everyone was like, oh my gosh, you know,
Speaker 2: this is groundbreaking where we've made, you know, huge inroads
Speaker 2: on some of the structures beneath the pyramids. And I'm
Speaker 2: not in disagreement that this is a big finding, because
Speaker 2: let's just agree when when's the last time, you know,
Speaker 2: the Egyptian Antiquities Department was allowing any type of scanning
Speaker 2: of the pyramids. So that's a win, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: going to say that's a win in and of itself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't tell you how happy I was that
Speaker 1: they didn't get the permission, because look, the authorities, they
Speaker 1: only allow so much information to come out. There was
Speaker 1: another series of scans that was done by the Pyramid
Speaker 1: scan Group and they didn't let half the data out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I let that small amount. So you know, the satellite
Speaker 1: orbiting the planet can take as many pictures as they want,
Speaker 1: and the antiquities department can't do what you think about it.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of where we are now, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: because there are satellites surrounding our planet now, whether we
Speaker 2: like it or not. So you know, I have I
Speaker 2: have a lot of I'm still a little bit trepidacious.
Speaker 2: Do I think that there's you know, a city underneath
Speaker 2: the pyramids? I don't. I mean, that's just my quick
Speaker 2: hot take on it. I think that you know, when
Speaker 2: we were at the bottom of the Great Pyramid, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and I just there was so much going on there.
Speaker 2: There was that massive you know, it wasn't a trench,
Speaker 2: it was a hole in the bottom of that pyramid,
Speaker 2: and you know, it was relatively deep. So do I
Speaker 2: feel like this is a new finding. Maybe not if
Speaker 2: you're they're physically looking at it. What do you want
Speaker 2: to bet that, you know, Egyptian antiquities already knew that
Speaker 2: there were, you know, some sort of structures underneath there,
Speaker 2: perhaps not how many or the size of them. And
Speaker 2: you know, we know there's water underneath the pyramids as well.
Speaker 2: So you know, if I let my imagination go wild,
Speaker 2: I'm like, this proves it's a battery. It doesn't prove
Speaker 2: it's a battery. I know I would like it too, But.
Speaker 1: Jen, you know, your training restricts you in some ways,
Speaker 1: but your your creative mind over overrides that, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So as an archaeologist, you're like, wait a minute. They
Speaker 1: tell us this was a tomb for this pharaoh, and
Speaker 1: that they they cut the stones from the local quarry
Speaker 1: and they drag them many miles and it's all legit.
Speaker 1: Where your creative mind will go. And you've been inside
Speaker 1: these places, the tours that we've taken, and it's like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, something needs to be rewritten here. There's
Speaker 1: a major issue when it comes to the creation, the structure,
Speaker 1: the building of these pyramids and what could possibly lay underneath.
Speaker 1: So you have a little leaveweight. But you know you
Speaker 1: said it before, it has to be analyzed through another means.
Speaker 2: It really does. I mean I don't think that we can,
Speaker 2: and for the record, I don't. I've never believed that
Speaker 2: it was necessarily a tomb. I mean it could have been,
Speaker 2: it could have been a secondary tomb all by that,
Speaker 2: but I think the original purpose of the structure is
Speaker 2: still unknown in my opinion, as far as you know,
Speaker 2: doing other studies and tests. Oh my gosh, yes, we
Speaker 2: do need to determine what is beneath the pyramids, whether
Speaker 2: it's Coffree's pyramid or you know, any of the other
Speaker 2: number of pyramids that are in Egypt, or you know,
Speaker 2: for that matter, in the Sudan. I mean there are
Speaker 2: numbers pyramids there as well, who also which also have
Speaker 2: water underneath them, So I mean, and those many of
Speaker 2: those are legitimately tombs. They were built to represent, you know,
Speaker 2: perhaps what they saw in Egypt during you know, the
Speaker 2: major dynastic periods. What I'm really curious about is, you know,
Speaker 2: what would it be like if they had radar data
Speaker 2: that could actually, you know, give us something a bit
Speaker 2: more tangible, whether that's light ar or whatever it might be.
Speaker 1: I I asked archaeologists last year when we were in Sakara.
Speaker 1: He's an Egyptian archaeologist, why don't you guys use light ar? Well,
Speaker 1: we just don't use it. We can't afford it, and
Speaker 1: we don't we don't integrate it into our studies.
Speaker 2: It's like, Wow, Yeah, why it is? It is a
Speaker 2: spendye venture that is for sure to use lightar. I mean,
Speaker 2: you can see all of the dramatic work that's been
Speaker 2: done with lightar recently in the Amazon. I mean it's
Speaker 2: just it's knocking it out of the park, rewriting history
Speaker 2: for that region. Imagine what it would do for Egypt
Speaker 2: if that were the case. I mean, imagine all the
Speaker 2: unknown structures that we would find in the desert if
Speaker 2: that were the case. I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Really worry that they are resistant to this type of
Speaker 1: technology because I've had guys on the program who have
Speaker 1: done ground penetrating radar, including Robert Schock on the Giza plateau,
Speaker 1: and found voids and rooms and tunnel systems that the
Speaker 1: authorities just will not acknowledge. Yeah, what the hell is
Speaker 1: that all about? Why won't they acknowledge that there's a
Speaker 1: tunnel system underneath the Sphinx or underneath the pyramids.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that a big piece of it.
Speaker 2: This isn't the only piece, but I think perhaps it's
Speaker 2: one of the larger pieces to the puzzle is that
Speaker 2: it is so cost prohibitive because the more they find,
Speaker 2: the more they have to keep up. Essentially, the more
Speaker 2: they have to restore, the more they have to protect
Speaker 2: and guards so that you know it's not looted. So
Speaker 2: I think it's I think, especially in Egypt, the more
Speaker 2: they find it becomes even more cost prohibitive. I mean,
Speaker 2: look at the looting that's just taken place historically and
Speaker 2: prehistorically for that matter. Yeah, so much of that. So
Speaker 2: I think that it's a little fear base that they
Speaker 2: choose not to do it because they don't have the
Speaker 2: funds to mitigate and restore a lot of what they find.
Speaker 2: Because archaeology is expensive and it is destructive because once
Speaker 2: you excavate something, you can never excavate it again. It's
Speaker 2: a done deal.
Speaker 1: My whole thing, though, is Zahie hill Wass is touring
Speaker 1: the United States right now doing his talks, and he's
Speaker 1: still promoting the Pyramids is a tomb. Yes, he's not.
Speaker 1: Even though he knows that there's crevices and rooms and
Speaker 1: canals inside the body of the sphinx, some that go underneath.
Speaker 1: They don't talk about it. He won't, he won't admit it.
Speaker 1: He said, oh, we found nothing nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or they write them off as seismic voids. I've
Speaker 2: read a lot about that as well, you know, because
Speaker 2: the area has you know, has naturally occurring seismic activity,
Speaker 2: and they rule them out as voids, especially with all
Speaker 2: of the water that's run there prehistorically, historically since the
Speaker 2: beginning of time. So I I am in agreement with you.
Speaker 2: I think that there's so much here, There's so much
Speaker 2: to be discovered. It's just a matter of you know,
Speaker 2: getting the right people in there. And here's here's the
Speaker 2: good news. I always like to end on a good note. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of these archaeologists and scientists, egyptologists
Speaker 2: that you have coming up through the educational system, now
Speaker 2: there's so much more open to doing more experimental archaeology.
Speaker 2: They're maybe less likely to think inside the box and
Speaker 2: more likely to say, yeah, why not, let's give this
Speaker 2: a tryer, let's review this old study that's been done,
Speaker 2: or you know, some of the findings that had been
Speaker 2: found previously. And I think with the opening of the
Speaker 2: Grand Egyptian Museum, I think we're going to see My
Speaker 2: prediction is is in over the course of the next
Speaker 2: five years, as that museum grows and researchers are invited
Speaker 2: into those archives, I think we're going to see a
Speaker 2: lot more come to the surface that perhaps we never
Speaker 2: saw before.
Speaker 1: I mean, like artifacts that are revealed to be very
Speaker 1: unusual or anomalous in their nature.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think that. I think that, you know,
Speaker 2: these early antiquarians, not really archaeologists, who were there excavating
Speaker 2: on you know, some billionaire's dime. I think they just
Speaker 2: you know, put stuff in a box and it went
Speaker 2: in there for posterity. And as you have these researchers
Speaker 2: and archivists combing through collections that have just been sitting,
Speaker 2: I think we're going to find interesting stuff. I read
Speaker 2: something recently where they found a number of the capstone
Speaker 2: fragments from the Great Pyramid, and they've been looking at
Speaker 2: them and finding really interesting things. Whether you know, they're
Speaker 2: talking about how it was made, the capstones, the formation
Speaker 2: of it, and even saying, you know that they think
Speaker 2: that they're finding organic material in them, which means that
Speaker 2: that's datable. Now it's datable to the last time that
Speaker 2: you know, it was repaired with those capstones, you know, whatever,
Speaker 2: whenever they decided to repair it. But it could be
Speaker 2: very interesting things could come out from that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really looking forward to seeing this billion dollar museum.
Speaker 1: They've had it fragmentedly open it. They opened a room
Speaker 1: here or there, but now the whole place is wide
Speaker 1: open for inspection. It looks it's so huge, five hundred
Speaker 1: thousand square feet five football fields.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's massive. Imagine cooling that place, Holy cats.
Speaker 1: Cooling it and moving people around and people, it's going
Speaker 1: to be a block. I'm looking forward to seeing it
Speaker 1: next year. Hey, Jen, real pleasure having you on the program.
Speaker 1: And Uh, let's see you again.
Speaker 2: Real soon, you too, Cleft see ya.
Speaker 1: Always fun to have Jin on the program. Okay, today's
Speaker 1: program is with Scott Walter. It is called Templar Temple Tech,
Speaker 1: the three T's. He's going to talk to us about
Speaker 1: some documents that have been found and some of the
Speaker 1: technology that has been imbued in the cathedrals of Europe.
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Speaker 1: of the keynotes is a regular of ours, Scott Walter.
Speaker 1: You're familiar with Scott. He is the host of American
Speaker 1: on Earth and he is also constantly on the run.
Speaker 1: He's doing all kinds of amazing things and he's on
Speaker 1: you know, writing number of books about to ask him
Speaker 1: shortly what he's up to. In terms of writing material, okay,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to have Scott on the program. And
Speaker 1: this program today is a kind of a focus on
Speaker 1: what the Temple has discovered when they were protecting Christians
Speaker 1: in Jerusalem and the build of these churches and cathedrals
Speaker 1: and what a lot of people believe was a certain
Speaker 1: type of a lost technology incorporated into the foundations that
Speaker 1: make these places special. And Hey, Scott, great to have you.
Speaker 1: How you been. How's everything going.
Speaker 3: I've been running like a madman, Cliff, but it's always
Speaker 3: good to see you, and I appreciate you giving me
Speaker 3: an opportunity to flat my gums.
Speaker 1: Hey real quickly, what dare you speaking at the summit?
Speaker 1: And you're giving a workshop on Monday?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 1: Right we know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're doing a workshop on Monday. And you know what, Cliff,
Speaker 3: I don't even know when i'm speaking. I think I'm
Speaker 3: speaking on Saturday, Okay, but I don't know off the
Speaker 3: top of my head. You caught me flat footed here.
Speaker 3: I mean, I can look it up, but no, people.
Speaker 1: Can go to Cosmic Summit dot com and they can
Speaker 1: read the whole Itineran, just find Scott under the speaker
Speaker 1: program and you'll see all the details. I want to
Speaker 1: start with the founding of the Templars. They were assembled
Speaker 1: around eleven eighteen to protect the Christians who were visiting Jerusalem.
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I discovered, and I
Speaker 1: may have known this, but for some reason I forgot,
Speaker 1: is they excavated the ancient temple mound that had been
Speaker 1: there for thousands of years.
Speaker 3: Right, well, yes and no. And actually, Cliff, you know,
Speaker 3: if you want to you want to learn about the
Speaker 3: formation of the Templars, you really have to go back
Speaker 3: to around eleven hundred. Actually I think it's ten ninety five,
Speaker 3: when the Cistercian Order was originally founded by a man
Speaker 3: named Robert Molesmey in Sitou, France. They established the first
Speaker 3: Cistercian monastery there, and you know, they had this monastic
Speaker 3: community that was doing quite well. But what happened, the
Speaker 3: most profound moment in the history of not just the
Speaker 3: Cistercian Order, but the Templar Order happened in eleven thirteen
Speaker 3: when Saint Bernard de clare Vaux joined the Order at
Speaker 3: Sito with thirty family members, including two of his uncles
Speaker 3: that would end up being Grand Masters of the Knights Templar,
Speaker 3: including the first grand Master, Hugh de Payence. And so
Speaker 3: what's interesting is that they joined the order in eleven thirteen,
Speaker 3: they basically took it over, and then the first daughter
Speaker 3: Abbey of the Cistercians was founded at Claireva by Bernard,
Speaker 3: hence the name Bernard de Clairvaux.
Speaker 1: And then from.
Speaker 3: That point on, really the growth of the Cistercians is
Speaker 3: nothing short of incredible. Hold off on the Templars for
Speaker 3: a second, but understand that by the time Bernard died
Speaker 3: in eleven fifty three, there were over three hundred abbeys,
Speaker 3: starting with one at Sito at eleven thirteen, and then
Speaker 3: forty years later they have three hundred abbeys all across Europe,
Speaker 3: into the British Isles, Scandinavia, all the way to the
Speaker 3: Holy Land. By the time the order was put down,
Speaker 3: the Templar Order was put down in thirteen oh seven,
Speaker 3: there were seven hundred and fifty abbeys all across Europe.
Speaker 3: And you know, like I said, the different areas adjacent
Speaker 3: to Europe, So I mean, we're talking about a success.
Speaker 3: It's just unparalleled, unmatched. Now, the Knights Templar were not
Speaker 3: officially founded, but founded in Jerusalem in eleven eighteen, as
Speaker 3: you said, with the first grand Master being Hugh depay Ends.
Speaker 3: And basically what they did was they captured Jerusalem. Now,
Speaker 3: a lot of people think, as you said, that their
Speaker 3: main job was to protect Christians in the Holy Land.
Speaker 3: That is not true. That was just something that they
Speaker 3: did to pacify the church. The true mission of the
Speaker 3: Tempers was to establish a base of operations in the
Speaker 3: region so that they could go to certain places like Lebanon, Turkey, Egypt,
Speaker 3: and certainly in Jerusalem to recover things that they knew
Speaker 3: were there, information that had been passed down through these
Speaker 3: bloodline families, if you will, and basically that's who founded
Speaker 3: the Cistercians. It was this same bloodline family that goes
Speaker 3: back to Jesus and Mary Magdalene and John the Baptist
Speaker 3: and all the way back to Egypt and to the
Speaker 3: Atlanteans beyond that. So this is a continuation of a
Speaker 3: story that's actually quite ancient. But as you said, one
Speaker 3: of the things, well, they recovered a number of things
Speaker 3: in the region that they knew was there. One of
Speaker 3: the things they did was they went under the Temple mount.
Speaker 3: Actually they went under the South wall, and they went
Speaker 3: down into a ritual chamber, and we have this in
Speaker 3: the cremona document detailed and excruciating detail is exactly how
Speaker 3: they got in there and what they recovered. And so
Speaker 3: they went into this underground ritual chamber which is still there,
Speaker 3: and they found four ossuaries or bone boxes that contained
Speaker 3: various articles. One of them contained twelve scrolls with documents
Speaker 3: that had ancient information that was encrypted on these twelve scrolls.
Speaker 3: They found gold in another one of the boxes, treasure,
Speaker 3: of course, and then the third thing that they found
Speaker 3: were five metal devices inside another box, two for construction,
Speaker 3: two for navigation, and the fifth article. These are all
Speaker 3: metal instruments. The fifth metal instrument was a cryptex that
Speaker 3: you needed to decode the twelve scrolls that were found
Speaker 3: in one of the other boxes. The fourth box contained
Speaker 3: the remains the bones of an individual. Carved on the
Speaker 3: side of the box was the word Yon with a Y.
Speaker 3: Actually there was no J back at the time, so
Speaker 3: that person was John the Baptist, And they talk about
Speaker 3: how the head the bones had been splintered on the
Speaker 3: neck from being crushed and severed with a large heavy axe.
Speaker 3: So one of the things they recovered was the bones
Speaker 3: of John the Baptist in that particular site. Now, they
Speaker 3: also went to other sites in Jerusalem, including a place
Speaker 3: called the Telpiat Tomb. Have we talked about the Telpiat
Speaker 3: Tomb before?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Okay, when you get a chance, look it up. It
Speaker 3: was discovered in nineteen eighty when they were blasting the
Speaker 3: hillsides in southern Jerusalem in the East Telpiat neighborhood, hence
Speaker 3: the name Telpiat Tomb, and they found a first century
Speaker 3: underground tomb. Now this is not unusual in Jerusalem. In fact,
Speaker 3: that underground ritual chamber was probably also connected to an
Speaker 3: underground ritual tomb like this one. And anyway, inside this
Speaker 3: particular tombe this happened in nineteen eighty they found ten
Speaker 3: ashuwaries bone boxes like I just described in the previous two.
Speaker 3: Seven of those ten oshuwaries were inscribed with names names
Speaker 3: like Jesus son of Joseph. Actually the name wasn't Jesus,
Speaker 3: it was Yeshiah. His name was not Jesus, it was
Speaker 3: Yeshuah spelled.
Speaker 1: With the y.
Speaker 3: There was no Jay back then, so it was Yeshua
Speaker 3: son of Joseph. A second one said James, son of Joseph,
Speaker 3: brother of Jesus. A third one said Matthew Joseph Judah
Speaker 3: son of Jesus.
Speaker 1: These are the one.
Speaker 3: In Judah son of Jesus. He had a son, okay,
Speaker 3: actually had two sons, and he had a daughter. But
Speaker 3: I digress. The sixth one carved in Aramaic was Maria,
Speaker 3: and the seventh Oshuary was actually carved in Greek, and
Speaker 3: it said Mary Mney. The Mara Mary Mney is a
Speaker 3: pet name for only Mary Magdalen found in the Acts
Speaker 3: of Philip. The mara is a title of honor, as
Speaker 3: in lord, master or queen. So what they found, actually
Speaker 3: they didn't find anything. Well, they found they found they
Speaker 3: found the tomb in nineteen eighty. But what they also
Speaker 3: discovered was that somebody had entered that tomb sometime in
Speaker 3: the historical past, about nine hundred years ago. What happened
Speaker 3: nine hundred years ago in Jerusalem, the First Crusade. The
Speaker 3: templars were there right. What they did is they went
Speaker 3: into their ancestral to and they recovered the bones of
Speaker 3: their ancestors, including Jesus. Now let me ask you something, Cliff,
Speaker 3: if you had the bones of Jesus. Do you think
Speaker 3: you've got leverage on the Roman Church.
Speaker 1: Well, if they can, you know, quantify that it's Christ,
Speaker 1: you know, if it's truly Him, how do you how
Speaker 1: do you tell?
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, let's let's do this, let's define
Speaker 3: this discussion, okay, because you've got to be very careful
Speaker 3: because if you're a Christian and you believe in the
Speaker 3: resurrection of Jesus, that's a whole nother discussion then talking
Speaker 3: about real life, okay, And and facts Okay. So I
Speaker 3: just want to make sure that people understand I'm talking
Speaker 3: about science, I'm talking about facts, I'm talking about evidence.
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to defend anybody, and that's not what
Speaker 3: I'm doing here. But you can't mix the two, okay.
Speaker 3: So we're just gonna put religion on the side for
Speaker 3: a second. And again, I'm not here to offend anybody,
Speaker 3: are we cool.
Speaker 1: Sounds good to me, okay.
Speaker 3: So if you do get offended, it's your own fault,
Speaker 3: all right, Okay, Okay, So these are the facts. Now,
Speaker 3: if you have the bones of Jesus, of course, what's
Speaker 3: the first thing. And those bones, by the way, along
Speaker 3: with the treasures that the templars accumulated and recovered in
Speaker 3: this region during this time. They were all brought over
Speaker 3: to North America and hidden, douting those bones. Now, at
Speaker 3: the time when the templars were rising and becoming all powerful,
Speaker 3: it's a fact that even they had so much power
Speaker 3: that even the popes couldn't touch them.
Speaker 1: Now, why would that be? Is it the financial resources
Speaker 1: they had? Is that what it was? Now? Well, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say that they could probably buy politicians back then.
Speaker 3: Well, it was because of what they had who they had, right,
Speaker 3: because if you have the bones of Jesus, that resurrection
Speaker 3: story doesn't make sense, does it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I hear you.
Speaker 3: That's a problem for the church. And believe me, they
Speaker 3: knew that, and that's one of the reasons they became
Speaker 3: so rich and powerful. But actually the way they became
Speaker 3: rich and powerful had more to do with the Cistercians
Speaker 3: than anything else. Because the Cistercians these ran these monasteries
Speaker 3: and they always selected locations that were far away from
Speaker 3: the cities. They always had a stream, water was readily available.
Speaker 3: But they made their money through land acquisition, sheep farming,
Speaker 3: and agriculture. They also had foundries where they were making
Speaker 3: tools and they, of course they made a lot of liquor.
Speaker 3: They drank about a gallon of beer every day. But
Speaker 3: I digress on that. But then what they would do
Speaker 3: is they would take all the products and the food
Speaker 3: that they would be making, and the wool, and they
Speaker 3: would bring it into the fairs in town and they
Speaker 3: would sell their wares and they made it just a
Speaker 3: ton of money. Wow, you became immensely rich and powerful.
Speaker 3: And once they filled up an abbey, then twelve monks
Speaker 3: would go to a new property and they would approach
Speaker 3: a landowner and they would say, Hey, we want to
Speaker 3: build an abbey on your property. Will you allow us
Speaker 3: to do it. You have to remember back in those
Speaker 3: days they were extremely religious. They didn't live long and
Speaker 3: so when you know, an agent of the church came
Speaker 3: to you, this was like God paying you know, a
Speaker 3: house call. And back at that time, even up until
Speaker 3: actually today, in some cultures, the firstborn sons were the
Speaker 3: one that got all the wealth. Right then the second, third,
Speaker 3: and fourth born sons.
Speaker 1: You know where they went.
Speaker 3: They went to the monasteries to pray for the family
Speaker 3: to have a connection to God. That was so important
Speaker 3: back then, right, So this is how they grew and
Speaker 3: expanded because the people would send their you know, their
Speaker 3: male sons to the monasteries, and they just exploded in
Speaker 3: their growth. The land acquisition became theirs, and they didn't
Speaker 3: necessarily want the good land, because what would happen is
Speaker 3: the sheep will eat anything, and they would turn untillable
Speaker 3: land into tillable land, and then it would become their property.
Speaker 3: So they would shear the sheep for wool. They would
Speaker 3: the templars are the only ones that could eat meat,
Speaker 3: but they would take the develop the animal skin, and
Speaker 3: they would copy down their manuscripts and all their documents
Speaker 3: and keep track of history and all kinds of things.
Speaker 1: Let me backtrack a little bit, Scott. One of the
Speaker 1: things that I have read, and I've also had people
Speaker 1: on the program believe, is that when the temples were
Speaker 1: excavating the temple mound in some of these other buildings,
Speaker 1: that they may have run across not only the arc
Speaker 1: of the Covenant, which is a storage container for the
Speaker 1: Ten Commandments, but they also discovered the science of sacred geometry,
Speaker 1: the science of alchemy, and some other ancient, ancient Prediluvian
Speaker 1: sciences that they incorporated into a lot of their buildings.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, this is the stuff that they were recovering
Speaker 3: in Egypt, in Turkey, in Lebanon, and in Israel. It
Speaker 3: wasn't all recovered in Israel. In fact, we see to
Speaker 3: this day. In fact, a friend of mine, well, George,
Speaker 3: George Howard, was over in Turkey and they went to
Speaker 3: another site that was close to go Beckley, Tepe and
Speaker 3: it looked like an ancient place that had been quarried
Speaker 3: out and they found templar graffiti at that site. Really yeah,
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago when he sent me these pictures,
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, that's temple graffiti. I understand what the
Speaker 3: templar symbols are. And the same graffiti can be found
Speaker 3: in Egypt at many of the temples because they went
Speaker 3: there to get that science, that technology, the maps, the
Speaker 3: history all of that.
Speaker 1: We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
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Speaker 1: with my guest today, Scott Walter from America on Earth,
Speaker 1: discussing templar temple tech. Three t's we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: My guess today is Scott Walter. Scott has written extensively
Speaker 1: about the templar knights throughout Europe, their conquests as well
Speaker 1: as their demise, and a lot of the sacred information
Speaker 1: that they collected and dispersed around the world. These guys
Speaker 1: must have been not just miranding soldiers. There must have
Speaker 1: been some bright scientists, intellectuals as part of these Templar Knights.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, they were highly educated. That's what the monks would do.
Speaker 3: They would teach these guys and they would learn, they
Speaker 3: would research, and they would document all this down on
Speaker 3: the animal skins, right, you can see these texts. Many
Speaker 3: of them survived to this day. But they you know,
Speaker 3: they recovered information that talked about navigation, talked about the
Speaker 3: lay lines that you talked about, talking about Gothic architecture.
Speaker 3: And then of course they use a lot of that
Speaker 3: money that and you got to remember the Templars were
Speaker 3: the ones that had the filing finest sailing fleet in
Speaker 3: the world at that time, and they were trafficking all
Speaker 3: the goods to various countries around the world and they
Speaker 3: were making money hand over fists. They were also coming
Speaker 3: to the Americas. They traveled all around the world because
Speaker 3: they understood the science. They could calculate longitude, could also
Speaker 3: calculate the circumference of the earth. If you know how
Speaker 3: big the earth is, you know how far away things are,
Speaker 3: how much food to bring with you, how much water
Speaker 3: you know. I mean they had a huge advantage over everybody.
Speaker 3: But they didn't give up their secrets. They kept it
Speaker 3: to themselves. But they wrote the good Catholics.
Speaker 1: Everybody thought they were Yeah, let's continue on that train
Speaker 1: of thought. What is their interest in becoming a financial
Speaker 1: institution because what they and this is common knowledge, is
Speaker 1: that these Christians who came to the Holy Land and pilgrimages,
Speaker 1: who would give the templars their money? Who would store them?
Speaker 1: And I guess the temples would charge something to save
Speaker 1: their money, and that's how they increased their wealth. But
Speaker 1: what got them going as a banking system. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a dandast thing.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that you know this whole idea of
Speaker 3: when people would go on pilgrimages to the Holy Land,
Speaker 3: they would stop at a templar commandery and they would
Speaker 3: give them their money and then they would be issued
Speaker 3: a letter of credit that had a code that only
Speaker 3: the person that you know had the letter of credit
Speaker 3: knew what that code was. So if robbers robbed them
Speaker 3: this thing was useless without the code. It's like your
Speaker 3: credit card, right, It's useless unless you know the code.
Speaker 3: So so then when they went to Jerusalem, they would
Speaker 3: turn in the letter of credit and they would get
Speaker 3: the you know, they would get get money and they
Speaker 3: wouldn't have to worry about being robbed on the way
Speaker 3: to Jerusalem.
Speaker 1: So that's the banking system of you're talking.
Speaker 3: That's how the banking. And then of course you would
Speaker 3: be charged to fee for this wonderful service.
Speaker 1: Right, was this in documents that this is one of
Speaker 1: the resources that they developed that really brought them significant wealth.
Speaker 3: Well, this is part of it, right, Like I said,
Speaker 3: they made tremendous amount of money with you know, with
Speaker 3: the selling the various products that they would make on
Speaker 3: the on the monasteries because the templars were there too.
Speaker 3: The templars are Cistercian. They all wore white tunics with
Speaker 3: black mantles. But it was the templars that had the
Speaker 3: same outfits, but they had the red cross on the
Speaker 3: on the on the white tunic. Now they would also
Speaker 3: be paid to be warriors. They were hired guns. Right
Speaker 3: in fact, thirteen oh seven, when the templars were put down.
Speaker 3: The Portuguese came was told by the Pope, hey, you
Speaker 3: got to disband the Templars, and he said, I'm not
Speaker 3: going to disband my fighting force.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: I'm fighting the Moors and the Muslims that are attacking
Speaker 3: from the south were not. I'm not doing that. So basically,
Speaker 3: to acquiesce to the Church, they simply changed their name
Speaker 3: to the Order of Christ and they continued on for
Speaker 3: another five hundred years life.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, there's a lot of things about the
Speaker 3: Templars that people don't understand, and you know, that's one
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I've never heard you say, though,
Speaker 1: is that if they discovered the secret of alchemy of
Speaker 1: turning copper into gold, that would be a way to
Speaker 1: generate huge resources of financial security.
Speaker 3: But all of it, it's all part of it. Man.
Speaker 3: They were so wealthy it was ridiculous, and they had
Speaker 3: That's why the King of France wanted to suppress them.
Speaker 3: He wanted the money, and he was heavily in debt
Speaker 3: to them for the services that they had rendered to him.
Speaker 3: And you know, in his mind he thought the best
Speaker 3: way to get rid of the debt is get rid
Speaker 3: of the debtor, and that was his plan. Unfortunately it
Speaker 3: didn't work out, and the Templars survived that they went underground, and.
Speaker 1: We're still around to this day. So who was the
Speaker 1: one who was building these abbeys in these churches, in
Speaker 1: these cathedrals once they had the resources to I mean
Speaker 1: because the man ours and the resources to build like
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. They didn't build Notre Dame, but they may
Speaker 1: have had a part in their design. That's huge amounts
Speaker 1: of money.
Speaker 3: Well it is, I mean back in those days, and
Speaker 3: the Templars are the ones that financed the construction of
Speaker 3: those Gothic cathedrals, using the sacred Gothic architecture that really
Speaker 3: was hearkening back to their true ideology that they kept
Speaker 3: very suppressed, which was this goddess ideology, this belief in
Speaker 3: a dual gendered god ideology. And so when you look
Speaker 3: at the architecture of these buildings, I mean, once you
Speaker 3: know what to look for, you can't unsee it. But
Speaker 3: they were the ones that financed the building of these
Speaker 3: got the cathedrals, and as we talked about earlier, many
Speaker 3: of these things were placed on intersecting lay lines, right,
Speaker 3: These high energy centers that would you know, would would
Speaker 3: energize these amazing structures and you know, heightened the experience
Speaker 3: of the people that that would visit them and and
Speaker 3: pray in them and uh and meditate. So there's just
Speaker 3: so much going on with them. And then of course
Speaker 3: the architecture itself incorporates the sacred feminine when you look
Speaker 3: at the twin towers that are standing on the west
Speaker 3: end of the church, and then the you know, the
Speaker 3: pointed pointed arches of the doors that look like the
Speaker 3: female genitilia. That's not an accident, and it's supposed to
Speaker 3: be the women's knees up in the birthing position. And
Speaker 3: then when you go into church, you enter the birth
Speaker 3: canal and you're nurtured inside the womb of the Great
Speaker 3: Mother Goddess. And then at the end of the service,
Speaker 3: you were then allegorically born out through that birth canal
Speaker 3: with with the mother in her birthing posi position, and
Speaker 3: you enter the world with a new perspective right with
Speaker 3: the new outlook. And uh, it's really a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3: But most people have no idea what the what the
Speaker 3: architectural meaning of that really is.
Speaker 1: So what what I mean Notre Dame is the most
Speaker 1: well known cathedral in Paris, and it's not attributed to
Speaker 1: the templars, although they do say yeah it is. No,
Speaker 1: they say it's some other guy, the one of the
Speaker 1: popes or one of the bishops. Oh you mean that
Speaker 1: it was named after in honor that the bishop was
Speaker 1: the one that pulled together the resources and the team
Speaker 1: to design and actually build Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: Well, it would have to that. One was definitely involved
Speaker 3: the Templars, and so the people that financed it had
Speaker 3: Templar connections. They would have been Burgundian, probably Burgundian families
Speaker 3: that helped to finance that. Because the architecture is spot on,
Speaker 3: you know, sacred, feminine Gothic architecture. So whoever that guy
Speaker 3: was was probably on the squad. Got to remember, they
Speaker 3: weren't all carrying swords. A lot of them were clergy,
Speaker 3: many of them were just Cistercian monks, but they came
Speaker 3: from these wealthy families and that's where that money came from.
Speaker 1: We just talked about the lay lines. We've also learned
Speaker 1: through various kinds of testing that some of these churches
Speaker 1: and cathedrals are built over sacred sites and perhaps earlier,
Speaker 1: older year old buildings and things like that. Temples, older
Speaker 1: temples absolutely know to do that. I mean, they would
Speaker 1: really have to have a sense. Somebody has to be
Speaker 1: sensitive enough to know that.
Speaker 3: They had the ability to identify where these lay lines were,
Speaker 3: and where these lay line intersect, you're going to have
Speaker 3: a magnification of that energy. And absolutely they understood how
Speaker 3: to do that. And you know, they again they were
Speaker 3: the descendants of people that came before them that understood
Speaker 3: how to identify this energy, identify these lay lines and
Speaker 3: energy centers, and this is where these old temples were,
Speaker 3: and they just built them on top for gender, you know,
Speaker 3: for millennium. I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit about the sacred geometry
Speaker 1: that is incorporated in some of these cathedrals, because I
Speaker 1: mean I've been into a few of them in France
Speaker 1: and when you go in there, you feel it, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: actually feel it. You're bathed in this energy which is
Speaker 1: probably absorbed when they do a complete ceremony right or
Speaker 1: a period, but there's something going on there. They really
Speaker 1: understood the energetics of Gaya the earth absolutely absolutely well.
Speaker 3: One of the things is that when you go into
Speaker 3: the nave of the church. That is a two to
Speaker 3: one ratio. That's a very sacred ratio. And if you
Speaker 3: take two circles and you push it together and divide
Speaker 3: it into a third third third, that vertical almond shape
Speaker 3: again is called the vesickas pieces and is the allegorical
Speaker 3: birth canal of the gray Goddess. Inside that you can
Speaker 3: place two equilateral triangles, one going up, one going down,
Speaker 3: and then the sacred geometry after that just takes off
Speaker 3: and just goes in infinite directions. And if you start
Speaker 3: adding more circles, you get the flower of life and
Speaker 3: everything else. But it all starts with that basic geometric
Speaker 3: ratio of two to one created by those two circles,
Speaker 3: and so that's where that energy starts and it just
Speaker 3: emanates after that. And when you're sitting on top of
Speaker 3: these lay lines with the sacred geometry incorporated within it, man,
Speaker 3: it's just especially to people that are attuned to uh
Speaker 3: receive that energy, it's it's can be overwhelming sometimes.
Speaker 1: I mean, you you've done some touring in Europe over
Speaker 1: the years and you've been in those places there they're
Speaker 1: remarkably uh integrat oble. I mean, they're they're amazing in ways.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, Cliff, sometimes when I go in inside
Speaker 3: like the Gothic uh cathedrals, And actually Haley's putting together
Speaker 3: a tour right now. It's called the Virgo Tour, and
Speaker 3: basically we scouted that out last summer. We went to
Speaker 3: all of these cathedrals, and basically what it is is
Speaker 3: on the ground, these cathedrals were built in a pattern
Speaker 3: that mirrors the constellation of Virgo, the stars and the
Speaker 3: constellation of Virgo. You've heard that old phrase as aboves
Speaker 3: all below right, That's exactly what we're talking about. So
Speaker 3: we went to all of those cathedrals and spent the
Speaker 3: day or two at each one, and I gotta tell
Speaker 3: you it was I mean, you go into some of
Speaker 3: these places and you see how massive they are, and
Speaker 3: how even though the basic design is very similar and
Speaker 3: the ratios of the nave is always the same, sometimes
Speaker 3: they're just bigger dimensions. But the amount of i mean,
Speaker 3: the stonework is just incredible, and they're so massive. It's like,
Speaker 3: how can they still be standing after almost a thousand years.
Speaker 3: It's just nothing short of incredible. But this is ancient
Speaker 3: knowledge that they acquired when they went into the Holy Land,
Speaker 3: this ancient Gothic architecture that I mean, it's just stunning,
Speaker 3: It's just incredible.
Speaker 1: Would you say that data that the architecture that they
Speaker 1: picked up from the Holy Land was from a previous epoch,
Speaker 1: so that the going similar construction techniques to tap peas
Speaker 1: about it going back to the Atlanteans and beyond. I mean,
Speaker 1: here's what's happening, Cliff, And I think you know this,
Speaker 1: and this is one of the reasons why I'm really
Speaker 1: excited about the Cosmic Summit, because there's always new research
Speaker 1: that's coming in that it seems everything goes back to
Speaker 1: this pre Deluvian culture we call them the Atlanteans, and
Speaker 1: it just seems like everything, these these megalithic structures that
Speaker 1: are found throughout the world, like the pyramids, just keep
Speaker 1: getting older and older and older, and they're all going
Speaker 1: to go back to you know, pre younger dryas.
Speaker 3: That's already happening. And when you go back and you
Speaker 3: look at what the original foundation was, it dates back
Speaker 3: to Prediluvian cultures. And what's really exciting it's going to
Speaker 3: happen this year at the Cosmic Summit. I know, oh,
Speaker 3: people are going to be talking about you know, the
Speaker 3: new geophysical data that they have generated underneath the pyramids
Speaker 3: that suggest there are, you know, massive structures that were
Speaker 3: built underground that I won't say support the pyramids because
Speaker 3: you don't need to have that type of thing to
Speaker 3: support them. But obviously they if those things are there.
Speaker 3: I'm not one hundred percent sure that they are yet
Speaker 3: until they do some angle drilling and verify that something
Speaker 3: is there. I'm not saying there isn't something there. I
Speaker 3: don't know. I'm not convinced yet. I'm very intrigued like
Speaker 3: everybody else is. But you know, these are the kind
Speaker 3: of things that just add to the story of the
Speaker 3: incredible nature of these megalithic structures that the more we dig,
Speaker 3: the more we find. But all I can tell you
Speaker 3: is they're just going to get older and older.
Speaker 1: That's very funny. You're mentioning the star the synthetic aperture
Speaker 1: radar scans from the satellite. Yeah, totally bite past the
Speaker 1: antiquities Department, which upset everybody, the Zahi Hill Losses of
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 3: Oh, you mean the people that want to control the
Speaker 3: narrative exactly.
Speaker 1: They were very very unhappy because they can't control the
Speaker 1: release of the data.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, Cliff, maybe sometimes it's better to
Speaker 3: ask forgiveness than permission, right.
Speaker 1: I think it was funny. I'm not saying I would
Speaker 1: ever do that. Yeah, have you seen have you seen
Speaker 1: any of the data, any of the scans.
Speaker 3: I've only seen general information, you know, with some of
Speaker 3: the postings. And it's interesting. You know, I work in
Speaker 3: the testing field. I run a lab myself, and you know,
Speaker 3: we do geophysical work as well, we do drilling, and
Speaker 3: I know that you can end up getting some interesting
Speaker 3: data that sometimes can give you false positives, and so
Speaker 3: that's part of the reason why I'm a little bit skeptical. Again,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's BS or anything like that. I'm
Speaker 3: just saying I think you need to take the next step.
Speaker 3: You need to do some drilling and actually see if
Speaker 3: there's something that's anomalous and not natural, you know, and
Speaker 3: possibly man made. And you can't really celebrate and have
Speaker 3: a party until you've gone to work.
Speaker 1: I think we're kind of screwed in that aspect because
Speaker 1: then we have to have permission to drill on the ground.
Speaker 3: I think there's been enough noise about this that, you know,
Speaker 3: the Egyptologists and the people like Zawie Hawas are going
Speaker 3: to be pressured pretty hard. Look, there's something here. Are
Speaker 3: you covering something up? Or do you not want people
Speaker 3: to know? I thought you were about you know, education, enlightenment.
Speaker 3: We always want to know more. Right, We'll put up
Speaker 3: or shut up, buddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you. Hey, I want to use our
Speaker 1: time as best we can. Hear. I want to move
Speaker 1: on to settlem that you have discovered in the America's
Speaker 1: the templar settlements. Now, we've talked about Newport Tower and
Speaker 1: Rhode Island, Uh, and you have I think you mentioned uh,
Speaker 1: Oak Island, which is still a question mark. They found
Speaker 1: a a cross in Oak Island. Do you know about
Speaker 1: that cross? I do. It's related to I think it's French. Uh?
Speaker 1: Is that is that? Is that like somebody dropped that there?
Speaker 1: Or was it actually you think a templar artifact?
Speaker 3: Well, let's put it this way. I'm just gonna say
Speaker 3: it this way. Do you think those guys are the
Speaker 3: first ones to walch those beaches? Walk walk those beaches
Speaker 3: with metal detectors?
Speaker 1: I have no clue. I've watched Oak Island series I
Speaker 1: think twice.
Speaker 3: I'm going to call bullshit on that.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know.
Speaker 3: There's I know too much about what's going on there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and let's just say this. I've been invited on that
Speaker 3: show over the years four times and I've respectfully declined.
Speaker 3: And the reason is because I care about my credibility
Speaker 3: and I don't want to be associated with stuff I
Speaker 3: know as bs.
Speaker 1: So you don't think the money pits an actual well
Speaker 1: of leading into a treasure, Well, let me put it
Speaker 1: to you this way.
Speaker 3: There was a treasure put there at one time, but
Speaker 3: it was recovered back in seventeen sixty nine. We have
Speaker 3: that information specifically in the documents that we got in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, and there was also an important relic
Speaker 3: put there, but it was it was moved and everything
Speaker 3: was recovered. There's nothing there, but look, the treasure of
Speaker 3: the cursive Oak Island is the show itself.
Speaker 1: I don't watch it. I totally hear you.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, they've had really good ratings for a
Speaker 3: long time, you know. And give Prometheus Entertainment and History
Speaker 3: credit for creating a show in such a way that
Speaker 3: people just can't not watch it. Yeah, kudos to them.
Speaker 3: But when people ask me about it, I just say
Speaker 3: enjoy it as entertainment, because that's what it is.
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Speaker 1: with my guests today, Scott Walter talking about the Knight's Templar.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. My guest today is TV host
Speaker 1: and author Scott Walter from American Unearthed. We are talking
Speaker 1: about the Templar Knights of Europe and their chronicled exploration
Speaker 1: of the United States and other parts of the world.
Speaker 1: So that led cross that's attributed to some smith in
Speaker 1: uh France, is somebody dropped it there? You think some
Speaker 1: recent dropped at there. I don't believe it's legitimate. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna speak for myself. No, I don't think that's
Speaker 1: legitimate at all. Okay, And I found it a little.
Speaker 3: Convenient that, you know, a couple of what is it.
Speaker 3: The next week they go to France and they find
Speaker 3: the source of that the metal for the cross. They
Speaker 3: did some trace element analysis and they found the source.
Speaker 3: I just found that a little convenient. Yeah, people went
Speaker 3: crazy for that cross. In fact, they have reproduced it now.
Speaker 3: You can get a copy of it on Amazon. You
Speaker 3: can probably buy it. You can probably buy a real
Speaker 3: one on the antiquities market for an affordable price too.
Speaker 3: I don't believe for a second that was a legitimate fine,
Speaker 3: but that's me. I could be wrong, but I don't
Speaker 3: think so.
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about known places in the Americas. Now,
Speaker 1: you are a big advocate of the Kensington Runstone. That's
Speaker 1: in you know, Middle America. But where else do we
Speaker 1: have evidence of templars in the America's other than the
Speaker 1: various coastal areas and around the Kensington Ruinstone.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, it depends on what you
Speaker 3: want to accept. I mean we've got, of course, the
Speaker 3: Newport Tower, which connects directly with the Kensington Runstone, is
Speaker 3: a spot on round church templar architecture. I mean, you
Speaker 3: couldn't be any more spot on, and the stone and
Speaker 3: mortar construction, the octagonal architecture of it, I mean, it's
Speaker 3: just I mean, really, it has astronomical alignments that are solar, lunar,
Speaker 3: the constellations planetary. I mean you archaeo astronomy has dated
Speaker 3: it back to fourteen hundred, right about the time of
Speaker 3: the Runestone. I mean it's it's and then we have
Speaker 3: the Spirit Pond ruinstones. There are three of them that
Speaker 3: all have the hook decks on them. They were found
Speaker 3: up in Spirit Pond, Maine back in nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 3: They talk about the Templar's activities on there. I've written
Speaker 3: extensively about them. You've got the Narragansett roomstone in Narragansett
Speaker 3: Bay that also has the hook decks on it.
Speaker 1: With rooms.
Speaker 3: You have the the in hoc signal Vinci's inscription that's
Speaker 3: right there on the beach in Rhode Island, just below
Speaker 3: the Newport Tower. In hoc signal vincis is Latin for
Speaker 3: in this sign thou shalt conquer that happens to be
Speaker 3: or just happens to be the battle cry for the
Speaker 3: Knights Templar back in medieval times all the way up
Speaker 3: to today. I am a knights Templar. I have jewels
Speaker 3: and metals and in hoc signal Vince's is right there.
Speaker 3: So those are just a few of them. You have
Speaker 3: an Abm stone that's on the beach there in Newport
Speaker 3: as well. There are all kinds of carvings. An old
Speaker 3: mill site that's up in extreme northern New Hampshire right
Speaker 3: on the border of Canada. My god, you've got the
Speaker 3: Temple of the Goddess in the Catskill Mountains. I mean,
Speaker 3: I could tell you a bunch of sites that the
Speaker 3: Templars visited.
Speaker 1: Ten buildings though scott like like the like the Newport Tower, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like the Newport Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, you've got America Stonehenge. They certainly visited that site.
Speaker 3: They weren't the ones that created it. They probably added
Speaker 3: on to it, but they definitely were there. And there
Speaker 3: are dozens and dozens of stone structures all across the
Speaker 3: New England coastline that have astronomical alignments that could very
Speaker 3: well date back to the Templars, but people don't pay
Speaker 3: attention to them at all. Another site that probably is
Speaker 3: connected to the Templars is a place called Gungiwop that
Speaker 3: has you know, stone structures that again have astronomical alignments,
Speaker 3: and there's an even an old round mill there. So
Speaker 3: I mean, there's just all kinds of things that we
Speaker 3: could probably date to the Templars that people would first
Speaker 3: of all take them seriously and second of all study.
Speaker 3: And there are other places you know in North America
Speaker 3: that exhibit pre Columbian contact that are connected to these
Speaker 3: same families at different times in history. The Tucson led
Speaker 3: artifacts are incredible. The Back Creekstone is one of the
Speaker 3: most amazing artifacts. I mean, the list goes on and on.
Speaker 3: We've we've done episodes on all these artifacts and they're
Speaker 3: all legit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. Is there something that you carry regarding the
Speaker 1: Templars as a prayer or a meditation that is headed
Speaker 1: down over the hundreds of years that the Templars used
Speaker 1: in their religion or in their.
Speaker 3: Prayers, Well, you know, they there are. I mean, there's
Speaker 3: a number of things that you could talk about when
Speaker 3: it comes to the the theology isn't really the right word.
Speaker 3: Cosmology probably is a better word. They venerated the sacred feminine.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's not typical religion though, well it's not
Speaker 1: typical religion at all. And that because they were not religious,
Speaker 1: they pretended to be Catholic. In fact, they had a
Speaker 1: word the Portuguese language, the Templars actually had a word
Speaker 1: called sharar that means to pretend to be Catholic, but
Speaker 1: in reality your allegiance was to the tradition. And so
Speaker 1: there's no question that these guys pretended to be Catholic
Speaker 1: because they were not embracing the true faith. Now, they
Speaker 1: used the Virgin Mary as a metaphor for their ancient faith.
Speaker 1: She was simply the goddess, another form of the goddess.
Speaker 1: So it was actually quite brilliant, and they fooled the
Speaker 1: Roman Catholic Church for about two hundred years until they
Speaker 1: finally figured it out on October seventh, thirteen oh seven, thirteenth,
Speaker 1: thirteen oh seven, and that's when they were disbanded. Well,
Speaker 1: what happened was the King of France and the Church
Speaker 1: put out an arrest order that was read in a
Speaker 1: bunch of places where the templars were either in the
Speaker 1: monasteries of the commanderies, and only in France. They arrested
Speaker 1: six hundred templar nights. You got to remember something. There
Speaker 1: were over twelve thousand knights all across Europe, into the
Speaker 1: British Isle, of Scandinavian so on, but they only arrested
Speaker 1: them in France, and only sixty ten percent of the
Speaker 1: six hundred that were arrested were actually burned at the state. Now,
Speaker 1: when you hear the story of the templars, people just
Speaker 1: talk about it like they arrested every single Templar night
Speaker 1: and they burned them all at the stake.
Speaker 3: And that's just not true. It was actually a very
Speaker 3: small porsche of them. But most of them escaped because
Speaker 3: the order knew the arrest was coming. They knew they
Speaker 3: were going to be suppressed, and they were prepared for it.
Speaker 3: That's why when the King of France ordered his agents
Speaker 3: to go to the treasury in Paris where all the
Speaker 3: templar treasures they thought were stored, they got inside there
Speaker 3: and it was empty. It had already been moved over here.
Speaker 1: Wow. Hey, as we close, Scott, what documents have come up?
Speaker 1: You're talking about the Cremora documents, But what do you
Speaker 1: what's shedding new light for you in terms of the
Speaker 1: Templer's historical goings on. Well, let me put it to
Speaker 1: you this way. I'll just I'll try to keep this brief.
Speaker 1: One of the documents that we got in twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: talks about documents that were hidden in the Catskill Mountains
Speaker 1: at a place called, excuse me, the Temple of the Goddess. Okay,
Speaker 1: at the temple, there were documents that were hidden that
Speaker 1: pre date the year one thousand. Some of them are
Speaker 1: biblical in age, some of them go up to the
Speaker 1: time of Jesus and Mary Magdalene. One of the documents
Speaker 1: recovered in the twelfth century was the marriage document of
Speaker 1: Jesus and Mary Magdalene. It was brought back to Europe anyway.
Speaker 1: Half of those scrolls were recovered in the twelfth century.
Speaker 3: The other half were not. They were still at the temple.
Speaker 3: The letter we got in twenty seventeen is dated sixteen
Speaker 3: fifty six, and essentially what Lionel de Waldron the twenty
Speaker 3: first wrote in that letter is that settlement is happening.
Speaker 3: People are encroaching up into the temple area in the
Speaker 3: Catskill Mountains. We got to get the rest of this
Speaker 3: stuff out of here.
Speaker 1: And so they.
Speaker 3: He describes where they're going to take him. They were
Speaker 3: going to take him to Montreal, to the Notre Dame
Speaker 3: de Botsigur church. Excuse me, I got a tickle in
Speaker 3: my throat, and that's where they were going to be hidden.
Speaker 3: And then he lifts what the documents are. It's an
Speaker 3: incredible list of documents, and most of the stuff on
Speaker 3: that list nobody's ever heard of, including the Book of
Speaker 3: the Wars of the Lord, which I've talked about in
Speaker 3: recent lectures the last couple of years. But there's something
Speaker 3: else that was listed that we never heard anything more about.
Speaker 3: It said eight Yesuous scrolls, and that was in twenty
Speaker 3: seventeen when we got this letter, And of course that
Speaker 3: was very intriguing because we're talking about scrolls that were
Speaker 3: written by Jesus. That's who Yeshua is in this latest
Speaker 3: message that we got. The guy who updated the records
Speaker 3: the last time in nineteen oh eight, writes in one
Speaker 3: of these encrypted messages, I am told by the angel
Speaker 3: Kay to save the yesuous scrolls. Pick one, burn all else.
Speaker 3: I do so. So there's one scroll that survived. We
Speaker 3: have it. We've been able to decipher it, and it
Speaker 3: was a bitch, let me tell you. But the message
Speaker 3: is amazing and it has it has the possibility of
Speaker 3: changing everything we thought we knew about religion, about faith,
Speaker 3: certainly about Jesus and what his true message was. And
Speaker 3: I'm going to save that for the conference, but I'm
Speaker 3: telling you it's mind blowing.
Speaker 1: Is it kind of like new estimate of the Bible theme.
Speaker 1: Let's put it this way. When the church fathers were
Speaker 1: putting together the Bible, they conveniently left this out. But
Speaker 1: the Templars have retained it because remember the leadership of
Speaker 1: the Templars were the ideological and biological descendants of Jesus,
Speaker 1: Mary Magdalen, John the Baptist, and the rest of the
Speaker 1: Ascene tradition.
Speaker 3: And as just a fact, that is why if the
Speaker 3: skull has ever recovered, first thing you do is See fourteen.
Speaker 3: If you get around two thousand years old, you're cooking
Speaker 3: with gas. You know those ashwarz I told you about
Speaker 3: that were discovered in.
Speaker 1: The Telpiat tune.
Speaker 3: The world doesn't know this yet, but the DNA has
Speaker 3: been extracted. So we take the skull, we compare it
Speaker 3: with the known DNA.
Speaker 1: That would be cool.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: Wow, do you have See fourteen equipment of your lab
Speaker 1: or do you have to go out and have a day?
Speaker 3: No? In fact, right before, literally before you contacted me,
Speaker 3: I was talking to Beta Analytics. They're doing some testing
Speaker 3: for me right now, and I was going through my
Speaker 3: submittal farm right up until two o'clock your time.
Speaker 1: Wow. Scott Walter, always a pleasure. Remember Scott's going to
Speaker 1: be at the Cosmic Summit. What is the dates again?
Speaker 1: It's the twelve.
Speaker 3: I think it's June twentieth This Friday, twenty first is Saturday.
Speaker 3: Twenty third is Sunday twenty wait twenty one, twenty twenty one,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty third is Monday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so twenty through twenty third. For those of you
Speaker 1: who can't make it, go to Cosmic Summit dot com
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be streamed live so you can see Scott,
Speaker 1: but directly. You're gonna have some slides. Oh am, I
Speaker 1: gonna have slides. Yeah, hell yeah, are you kidding? Okay, excellent.
Speaker 1: Thought's gonna be there, Randall Carlson and a lot of
Speaker 1: other people. Robert Shock will be there. It's one of
Speaker 1: the best, if not the best conference of the year
Speaker 1: Cosmicsummit dot com. If you can make it to Greensboro,
Speaker 1: North Carolina, please do so. If you would like to
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Speaker 1: the entire conference from start to finish, including the presentations
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Speaker 1: you'll get a file with all of them to look
Speaker 1: at your leisure. Scott, Great to see you, my friend.
Speaker 3: All right, Hey, one quick thing I do I told
Speaker 3: Haley I would I would do this for She still
Speaker 3: got some spots left for her Spain and Portugal tour
Speaker 3: coming up up in just over two weeks. She's got
Speaker 3: a reduced rate of forty eight ninety nine all inclusive.
Speaker 3: The only thing, excuse me, the only thing you got
Speaker 3: to do is get there, So your airline fee you're
Speaker 3: gonna have to pay for. But that's a really good deal.
Speaker 3: I was on that tour last year. We went to
Speaker 3: some of the most incredible templar sites in Spain and Portugal.
Speaker 3: And if you can make it, please go. It's a blast.
Speaker 1: So where's the start size that Barcelona?
Speaker 3: You start Starman Barcelona and you get to see the
Speaker 3: amazing cathedral that's still under construction. I think it's been
Speaker 3: under construction for over a century and it's still going
Speaker 3: to be going for another couple decades. It's unbelievable. It's
Speaker 3: worth it just for that alone. What's the website they
Speaker 3: can read about the Itinerarian Register Hailey Allison Ramsey. Hang
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Speaker 3: you just plug that in you'll find her website and
Speaker 3: you can you can sign up.
Speaker 1: There Okay, that sounds great. That sounds like a really
Speaker 1: good tour.
Speaker 3: Actually, I've been wanting to fantastic. I'm telling you, I'm
Speaker 3: not making it up. It was just it was it.
Speaker 3: We had so much fun. The group we had was
Speaker 3: small and intimate, and uh it was Tomar. Portugal is
Speaker 3: a templar city and I've filmed there twice, once with
Speaker 3: America on Earth, once with another show, and it's just
Speaker 3: it's incredible.
Speaker 1: Wow, Scott, A pleasure as always, and we'll catch you
Speaker 1: next time.
Speaker 3: Okay, sounds great, Cliff, Thanks for having me. We'll see
Speaker 3: at the conference right.
Speaker 1: I can't make it. He'll be in Turkey this year.
Speaker 2: What are you doing?
Speaker 1: You get me all excited? Come on, man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be stopping Cahara Karahan, Teppye and go Beckley Tippy this year.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, well listen, you take lots of pictures.
Speaker 1: I sure will. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, Cliff, Thanks for having me. I really
Speaker 3: appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Scott's just one of many of the keynotes at the
Speaker 1: Cosmic Summit going to be held in Greensboro, North Carolina,
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Speaker 1: I want to mention that our first ever Guatemalan tour,
Speaker 1: it's the Secret Pyramids of Guatemala, is coming up. It's
Speaker 1: going to be December first to the twelfth. We're about
Speaker 1: half full. And the reason I really like this tour
Speaker 1: and you why you should consider it, is that we
Speaker 1: get to actually physically climb and interact with these pyramids,
Speaker 1: these temples, these sacred sites in to call in Elmiador,
Speaker 1: and I mean, we can't do this kind of thing
Speaker 1: in Mexico. And this is why this tour is a
Speaker 1: must see. It's the first time we're doing it with
Speaker 1: doctor Lydia de Leong and her husband, the architect, who
Speaker 1: also is as a focal point of sacred geometry. They
Speaker 1: are the hosts. They have selected this outstanding tour. We'll
Speaker 1: see Ta Call like I mentioned, and the Lost World Pyramid.
Speaker 1: This is the one that has been tested and at
Speaker 1: certain times of the early morning, I think it's between
Speaker 1: three am and six am, it actually is emanating a
Speaker 1: pretty high frequency and you don't just hear it, you
Speaker 1: can feel it. And that's what we're all about. Jen Dale.
Speaker 1: I was mentioning this to Jen she was there a
Speaker 1: number of years ago and She was with her husband, Scott,
Speaker 1: and they actually got to the top, sat there and
Speaker 1: she says it was a wild ride. I mean, the
Speaker 1: energy's pulsing through you. We don't understand it. It's a
Speaker 1: beneficial energy, but we are still questioning how it's derived.
Speaker 1: What they were using it for. We know right now
Speaker 1: the farmers, the local farmers will put their grain crops,
Speaker 1: corn rice, whatever at the top of this pyramid and
Speaker 1: it'll enhance the crops to the point where they're almost
Speaker 1: three times the size of normal and they're extremely they've
Speaker 1: been enhanced. So if you want to join us, we
Speaker 1: hope you can do. You want to join this tour
Speaker 1: again December first of the twelfth, go to Earthagents dot
Speaker 1: com forward slash Tours check it out. The entire itinerary
Speaker 1: has been listed and it's going to be a first
Speaker 1: time ever. I hope we can start doing this on
Speaker 1: a regular basis, because there's no way that you can
Speaker 1: see t call this massive Mayan city in a day,
Speaker 1: and we're going to and we're only going to suck
Speaker 1: a couple of places to go because it's just too big.
Speaker 1: Hopefully Richard Hanson will be on him when we fly
Speaker 1: in on helicopter. Uh to see him at Elmiodor in
Speaker 1: the Mirrodor Basin so Earthancients. Dot Com Forward slash Tour,
Speaker 1: check out the check out the itinerary. It's all there
Speaker 1: for you. All right. That's it for this program. I
Speaker 1: want to think My guest today, Scott Walter coming to
Speaker 1: us from Minnesota. Good to hear from Jin Dale. Thanks
Speaker 1: Jin and our regulars, Guiltor and Mark Foster and everyone
Speaker 1: who makes this thing happen. You guys rock all right.
Speaker 1: Take care of you well, and we will talk to
Speaker 1: you next time.