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Sh It is now time for the twelfth ranked team
and the OTB Top twenty five. How did we get
from twenty five to twelve? Boise State at twenty five,
Memphis at twenty four, Baylor at twenty three, Georgia Tech
at twenty two, Tennessee at twenty one, Iowa State at twenty,
Texas eighty four at nineteen, Indiana at eighteen, oh Miss
at seventeen, Florida at sixteen, Texas Tech at fifteen, SMU
at fourteen, Arizona State at thirteen, and now.
Speaker 4: Tatay the twelfth rate team top twenty five.
Speaker 2: Look, guys, we're in the top twelve.
Speaker 6: Now this is where you separate the men from the boys, right,
I mean where this is in the thick of the
college football playoff line. So I wanted to do it
a little bit different today, hit at a laundra. The
Alabama Crimson Tide are coming in at number twelve. I
know most people have them ranked higher than this. I
just can't do it. I am really concerned about their
quarterback situation. Not only do you lose your starting quarterback
in Jalen Milroe, but you lose your most electrifying runner
from a season ago. Now, jam Miller back expected to
be the lead back, but he's actually injured. He's missing
the opener now against Florida State. Who knows how long
he's going to be out now. He had almost eight
hundred yards rushing a season ago, but that's because teams
were keying in on Jaylen Milroe. He is the guy now,
he is the running threat. How's he going to handle
being that lead back?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 6: Look as far as returning production goes, they return a
good bit.
Speaker 2: They return eight starters.
Speaker 6: On defense, they're going to be about as solid as
you could be on that side of the ball. But again,
for me, it's more of the offense, as they have
six returning starters, one Jam Miller, who we don't know
what he's going to look like. Ryan Williams is an
absolute stud. We know that, but how much is ty
Simson going to be able to get him the ball consistently.
You do return three starters on the offensive line, but
you've got to replace two big important pieces up front.
Speaker 2: And then Jeremy Bernard.
Speaker 6: Everybody's expected him to be this stud receiver as the
number two, and yardage wise, he was okay. A season
ago he had almost eight hundred yards receiving, but just
two touchdowns, and he actually only has six touchdowns total
in his three seasons in Tuscaloosa. When you look at
their schedule, I do like their schedule, which is why
I have them at twelve because I think they're going
to be in there in the playoff hunt. Despite not
good quarterback play. You play Florida State, even without jam Miller,
I think you win that game. Florida State was a
two win team a year ago. I don't expect a
tremendous jump. And you go ULM Wisconsin, you're three and zero.
Then you're on the road Week four against Georgia in Athens.
That one's gonna be tough. But even if you lose
that game, that puts you at three and one. You
come home against Vanderbilt. I don't think there's any way
Alabama loses to Vanderbilt two years unund as much as
we would all love it, I don't see that being
the case. That would put him at four and one.
You go to Missouri in Columbia. That could be a
sneaky game, but they're breaking in a new quarterback as well.
But voat formula, we'll see how that works out. Tennessee,
you have them at home. That's a big advantage there.
Going to South Carolina you could slip up there, and
then Lshu you got them at home.
Speaker 2: But honestly, the Tigers played better.
Speaker 6: In Tuscaloosa, at least in recent memory, in there, So
there are three potential games that you could drop on
this schedule.
Speaker 2: I think you'll beat Oklahoma.
Speaker 6: Not sure how good they'll be, but if John Mattier
comes out in surprises people, that's a team that could
be sneaky at the end of the year.
Speaker 2: I think you close things out with Auburn.
Speaker 6: I don't think they're gonna be very good, but I
think there's potentially three losses on this schedule for the
Alabama Crimson touch. So I got them at number twelve.
Speaker 4: That's not too too crazy.
Speaker 3: I said we were gonna hate it.
Speaker 2: You said we weren't gonna Maybe you don't.
Speaker 4: No, I think it's not a bad spot for them.
Speaker 5: I think they're with somewhere between nine and twelve nine
and they need to be so they.
Speaker 6: Guys, I got them like competing for a playoff spot,
and I think that's what they do this year. I
think nine to three, ten and two somewhere in there,
depending on own falls.
Speaker 5: Ryan Grubb being back as the OC, like, that's a
big deal. That's a big pot as that have for them.
Ty Simpson is somebody that I just I have not
seen a flash from him enough to make me go, oh,
that's that's gonna work.
Speaker 3: For sure, that's going to work.
Speaker 5: And you mentioned the running back is going to be
out against Florida State, Like, I don't know what Florida
State is going to be. Like you said, they won
two games, one game against an FBS team a year ago,
so who knows what they end up being two years
ago they were undefeated as we all know in the
regular season. But it's a good test, like it's on
the road, dope Campbell. They just redid their stadium completely.
I don't think that in Florida State's gonna beat Alabama.
But it's a nice test for the rest of the country.
I think to see where Alabama's at, and they need
to make the playoff. Like coach Saban said, the highest
of high standards that you possibly can have there for
Kylen de Bor coming in. So if they go nine
and three, Tay, that's probably a disappointment for Alabama fans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 6: And look, you were talking about ty Simpson like we've
seen a little bit him, but you haven't seen the flashes.
I would have been more worried about this Alabama team
if they would have started Keeland Russell only because I
think they can probably beat Florida State with Keeland Russell.
Then you give him ULM, you beat Wisconsin at home.
You have three games right there to play with with
Keiland Russell before you actually enter SEC play. As we know,
he was a highly recruited guy. But with ty Simpson,
we'll see he's not as dynamic of an athlete as
a Russell is. I just I'm gonna have to see
it with ty Simpson, like everything else is there. You
have Ryan Williams, you have a good complimentary piece in
Jeremy Bernard. The defense is gonna be great the seasons.
Ty Simpson is gonna make or break this Alabama season,
Like depend on your opinion of him, will depend on
your confidence level in Alabama. But I've seen him a
few times in limited action. Didn't come away very impressed.
But we'll see if he got better.
Speaker 7: And let's not forget Killin de Bord is a really
good head coach.
Speaker 2: He is.
Speaker 7: We really don't don't know much about it here in
the SEC because we've only seen it for one year
at Alabama and that was coming on the heels of
the great Nick Saban. But one hundred and four and
twelve record as a head coach, oh, for sure, pretty
good every level. You give him the Alabama talent, like,
let's not like, let's not sleep on them as LSU fans.
Let's not be so excited that Saban is no longer
there that we forget that they still have talent and
they got one heck of a head coach. So we'll
see how he handles SEC and he can progress. Let's
not judge about year one, of course.
Speaker 6: So I'm glad you mentioned that because so many people
talk about how great of a coach Dan Lanning is
and I love Dan Lanning. If you remember two years ago,
killn de Bor had his number twice in that season,
which is why they made the playoff at Oregon was
left out. Like killing de Bor is a good football
coach and he's won big time games.
Speaker 5: I just think the standard that coach Saban says, it's
impossible to be impossible to live up to that.
Speaker 4: Now. Kirby's trying his best right now.
Speaker 5: But like even Kirby, like they won the two back
to back championships, but like they haven't even I don't
know that they can happen again. But that so when
you're a fan, though, and it's like you see that
and you know that that's kind of all you know,
Like imagine being like a twenty one year old Alabama fans,
you know what I mean, Like you were born in
two thousand and four, you probably started really understanding football
in twenty fourteen. Like all you know is championships. Are
playing for a championship at the East, right, So like
that's kind of the expectations.
Speaker 7: You know, frat swoops and championships, little punks, is that
what they call it?
Speaker 5: The frat swoops. I don't know what that's what we
called it, the front tuck. We called we called the
frat swoop.
Speaker 3: I don't know you ever had a front tuck?
Speaker 8: Were talking about French tuck.
Speaker 3: That's a French show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, talking in just the front.
Speaker 3: What are you thinking about?
Speaker 6: I thought you were talking about we always talk about swoop.
I was like, wait, this aircut front tuck, like justin
I was confused.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's the thing. I used to just tuck in
the front.
Speaker 2: I did have the bieber up until about ninth grade.
Speaker 3: Did you did have that?
Speaker 2: Everybody kind of had the little we can see uh
am I.
Speaker 7: We coach Saban did, Like he did have the quote
that it's way more fun to build a program that
then to sustain it. So like that tells us that, like,
it's not that much fun when you've reached the top
of the mountain and the expectations are so great that
you have to stay on top of the mountain or
everybody gets pissed. Well, Kelen de boor he took over
a program that was on top of the mountain, so
he gets to skip all the fun part about building
a program and has to maintain it. Or people are
just automatic, automatically gonna think he's not a good coach,
which you know, it's impossible to take take over and
step into somebody's shoes like that in the first year
and have enough success.
Speaker 3: To please everybody. Right, But he is a dangerous head coach.
Speaker 7: We'll see how he fits in his coaching stuff in
the SEC and in Alabama. But everything he's done leading
up to this point makes them a dangerous look.
Speaker 4: And those around them have gotten better.
Speaker 3: Right. You added Texas to the league.
Speaker 5: Georgia continues to thrive, right, and so like you've added teams.
Tennessee makes the playoff last year, that's one of your
biggest rivals. So like the teams around you also have
raised their level of play like that, now that you've
got the ability to go out there to spend money,
build a roster, go in the portal, like all those things.
Like it's the standard that they said is not going
to be attainable by anybody because the playing field is
different as well. And coach Stateman had a pretty firm
grasp on getting the best players. Obvious, he's pretty decent
at it, pretty good at I'll never forget being on
the phone with that fellon. He's he's like, like, coach,
you know, asking me before he offered me a scholarship,
and I was talking with him.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I committed to tech. Whatever.
Speaker 5: He goes, yeah, that's great. But he's like, cool, recruiting spill,
that's great. Cool, You're from Louisiana, so I'm LSU I'm
about to offer you a scholarship. So do you want
to commit now or you always want to do it
in ten minutes? Like he was relentless on the phone.
I can't tell y'all, like it didn't matter where I
was or like what the situation was. He'd called the
Hey coach, I'm doing this. Okay, Yeah, that's great. Here's
the recruiting pitch. Always be closing man.
Speaker 3: And he did.
Speaker 5: Shout out to him for making my brother's soccer budget
for like four years by coming to a soccer game.
Speaker 7: And I just think that, uh, you know, saving guys,
to the point where he probably got tired of his
players calling him asking for raises at the end of
the season, which is what they do these days. Yeah,
I played pretty well last year. Can I get a raise?
You're in college kid? All right, here we go, guys.
This is uh, Junior high Taylor and his sister.
Speaker 3: Oh my there, huh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 2: It's Rainforce Cafe.
Speaker 4: I believe that it was good.
Speaker 2: It was probably not.
Speaker 3: Cafe Rainforest, remember.
Speaker 6: You remember, Yeah, this is probably the one in Katy, Texas.
Speaker 3: No, that's definitely Branson. That's definitely Branson, right, yeah, no doubt.
That's a John Deere convince.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had we had the we had to swoop
for a little while.
Speaker 7: Oh well, I think Jake and I probably both had
the undercut with a part in the middle as a child.
Speaker 4: We did butt cut.
Speaker 7: We'll call it the Home Improvement Special. Can I get
the j T you get the j T T please?
Speaker 3: Yes? Thank you one time. Thank you appreciate that. That
would be twelve none and that think you're natural hair color.
We have a little highlights in the No.
Speaker 6: That was I've just got the dark. Well, so it's funny.
My little brother, his heir was darker than mount already.
Speaker 3: H they get highlights.
Speaker 4: It's okay, I had frost it.
Speaker 7: And then all right, so like a targarian, I'm watching
rewatching Game of Thrones right now.
Speaker 3: What you're like a targarian? You didn't know what that means. Yeah,
from a game of throats watching it. You didn't watch it.
Speaker 2: I've seen like two seasons.
Speaker 4: Okay, wow, that is psycho a lot.
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't make it all I need to know.
Speaker 2: But he didn't make it through two seasons.
Speaker 4: That's weird.
Speaker 3: That a weird. That's weird.
Speaker 7: I can understand people not watching it because it was
there was a lot. I knew a lot of people
that didn't watch it because there was so much hype.
They just didn't want to be like Sheep. They didn't
want to be that guy. But like once everybody starts it,
they keep watching.
Speaker 6: I have a bad habit of not finishing shows. I
was told you, O Day, great with movies, bad with
TV shows. It's always been.
Speaker 7: But it's like a movie every every week, every episode.
Speaker 3: I got a bad habit with stunting, just the thing, laundry.
Speaker 9: That's that's the hardest habit to break, stunting.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming this is some obscure song.
Speaker 2: It's not that obscure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me sing it. We'll play it.
Speaker 5: We'll play it coming back, and when we come back,
I want to talk a little LSU running game, running
back room.
Speaker 3: Would you want thin You don't want to talk about golf?
Absolutely not.
Speaker 4: That's like an eight fifty two segment.
Speaker 5: People want to know about Scotti Shuffler. They will at
eight fifty two our weekend Winter. You got a lot
of different chances. You can talk about Scotty didn't know
more to b when we come.
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stunning ahead. Light me, Hey, I'm seeing the Shavy way
beat light.
Speaker 1: Me blocked in on LSU football twenty four to seven.
You're listening to off the bench.
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way to butterfly dough. Let's stunning down ahead.
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thinking of dot got your monky head, no dimonds on
the bus, your hand on the pine to touch and
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Speaker 3: Face waiting for.
Speaker 4: The hook, well the hook plane.
Speaker 5: But the problem is you didn't have your headphones, so
there you got like.
Speaker 10: He see the Chevy wall like me, I'm seeing the
shaving wades beat like me, Hey, let me see the
Chevy way that butterfly.
Speaker 12: Dough stunning as I had.
Speaker 3: No, Well, you're looking at me.
Speaker 2: This is this is one that doesn't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know shi with them? Oh why why am
I supposed to know that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like it's pretty popular. I think like it was
real popular.
Speaker 9: You know the song that's like it's going down me,
Me and the club. Okay, there's a part in that
song where he's like stunting is a habit.
Speaker 8: That's the same guy, But that wasn't that song.
Speaker 3: But it's like song no.
Speaker 4: Was like We're inege eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I probably heard it at like Reggies.
Speaker 5: If you were at Reggie's inn O eight. That's a
you thing. It may not it may have only been
a two thousand and three Reggie situation for you. That's
when you first got here.
Speaker 3: That's true. I wouldn't.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like me.
Speaker 3: If you were there in eight.
Speaker 7: You act like I knew what I never even heard
that song. You act like I knew when it came out.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no no, don't try to take away from
what you said. You and Spadoni and Reggie.
Speaker 4: Sorry, guest, believe you don't David band hot.
Speaker 3: It's not a good song. Hot take bad song.
Speaker 7: Sorry, those Bella had like some like weird sense of
nostalgia that skews the truth that that's a bad song.
Speaker 3: Oh it was. It was out when I was a kid,
when I was in college. It makes it a good song. No,
it doesn't.
Speaker 5: The song sucks. Heaved banners, pretty popular song. I don't
know why you're so angry right now. You're right, man, Oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm great.
Speaker 4: Who hurts you?
Speaker 3: Who hurts you? Sorry? I was just getting real. I
was getting judged. I was getting I judged by a
lot of people in the foxhole.
Speaker 8: Right there, judge. I was just surprised that you didn't
know it.
Speaker 4: No, it was just surprise situation.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you've never heard it. I'm surprised you don't like
the song. I don't really like the song. But I
mean I know it.
Speaker 3: Nobody does.
Speaker 4: Nobody knows it, likes it.
Speaker 3: I like Itandra Daniel said it.
Speaker 5: Nay to snickers Man, you got chill out.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm good, I'm good. Let's talk about those running backs.
Speaker 4: Now, I didn't say running back. What did you say?
I said running game?
Speaker 3: Running game? Yeah, all right.
Speaker 5: So the running back position for the LSU Tigers is thin.
Speaker 3: You get Cayden Durham's a sophomore.
Speaker 4: Youet Caleb Jackson, who is a junior.
Speaker 5: Cale Jackson has had a couple of una plays, but right,
you need him to be consistent, certainly if he's going
to be your backup running back. Now, Harlem Berry one
of the most highly touted running backs in the country.
A lot of services had him as the highest towed
running back in the country.
Speaker 4: He's a freshman.
Speaker 3: We all know j. T.
Speaker 5: Lindsay right now suspended from the team. So you have
three scholarship running backs. Now we've talked about Juwan Johnson, right,
kind of a jack of all trades type guy, quarter
running back, receiver, came here as a dB. He's gonna
be able to help you in the run game without question.
If you've been to practice. You've seen it. He'll line
up in the backfield, he'll take a snap at quarterback.
Speaker 3: That's gonna help you.
Speaker 5: You're gonna need more help and you're gonna have to
continue to get help from other places.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: I think Kayden Durham is gonna be All SEC. I
said it whatever week that was. I don't know if
his first team, second team. If he stays healthy, he's
gonna be an all SEC running back. I believe that
is going to be true. Last year, as a banged
up freshman, he had over seven hundred yards. He took
over the South Carolina game. There was a couple of
runs that if he was healthy he would have finished.
I mean, a guy had a foot toe injury at
running backs. It's less than ideal, right, but he played
through it, so you appreciate the grit. He's gonna have
a monster year. But we know you got to have
more than just one guy in the SEC. So is
it gonna be Cale Jackson?
Speaker 3: You hope.
Speaker 4: So we'll see Harlan Berry.
Speaker 5: Can he give you something as a freshman that would
be an added benefit? Juwan Johnson's going to give you something,
But what else can you get from anybody else to
help out the run game. I think Xavian Thomas is
an interesting candidate here.
Speaker 3: Okay, is he.
Speaker 5: A receiver, Yes, but he's got obvious return skills. Last year,
one of my favorite plays that they used to run.
They would be in gun and they would motion him
into the backfield and they would run counter with Zavian Thomas. Okay,
so anything's available, Like if you're putting a receiver in
a counter situation, like he has the ability to run
between the tackles, which doesn't allow you to fall into
tendencies of just getting a jet sweep or getting something
on the perimeter. Now, Like, honestly, counter is kind of
like reading your kickoff return if you think about it,
like your blockers are out in front of you. You got
five yards of slow developing, yes, slow developing, and you're
kind of reading. If they log it, you go here,
if they kick it out, you go op inside, and.
Speaker 7: You're not taking like the big shots we talked about
that week with a lot of times when you run
quarterbacks as a quarterback counter, yeah, because it's the same thing.
You're not necessarily just sticking your head up in there
and taking a lot of beating so like you said,
you get a lot of space, you got some green,
you got reads to make. So unless it just gets
completely blown up, you should never take like this huge
shot right the line of scrimmage. You kind of control
your own destiny because hopefully you're getting to the second level.
Speaker 3: And being able to make a move.
Speaker 5: So, I mean, he is somebody that I absolutely think
can help you in the run game. And actually Hunt
has a great story up on Xavian Thomas right now
louisianasports dot net and talking about his role and how
it is going to expand this year.
Speaker 4: But I want to see him get involved in the
run game.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: I'm not talking about going back to Matt Canada and
running jet sweets. I'm talking about just a lot of
different things. And honestly, and I think you would agree
with this, Like a now route out of the slot
that's an extension of the run game, a little quick
bubble out of the slot that's an extension of the
run game. Like those are plays on first down, go
get us six yards on those plays, and I think
Thomas is the perfect player to go and get that done.
So he might not be getting a handoff, but when
you throw a bubble, a quick now, whatever it might be,
that is a very high percentage play to get the
ball to a play maker in space.
Speaker 4: Hey go make it second in four.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: All RPOs are just an extension of the running game.
They're not necessarily designed to create big plays, like big
explosive games, but they're designed to get people one on
one in space and avoid negative plays in the run game.
So when I was when I first got into the NFL,
like Green Bay was kind of on like the leading
edge of RPOs, like in the like an old school way,
like like you said, backside now, backside one step we
call it a look slant, just a one step slant
and now or we call it a key route would
just be like one step and you're just you catch
it right the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4: He was our protection. That'd have been confused.
Speaker 12: Yeah. There.
Speaker 7: And then of course it's developed over the last fifteen
or so years. It twenty years about it's of course
it's in the shotgun. You're doing a lot of inside slants.
You're reading backers more. We weren't necessarily reading linebackers positioning
or their angles that they were taking in the shotgun.
We were reading more pre snap alignment, Like, all right,
we want to run the strong side zone, strong side power.
But if they get this front and they have if
they have the safety down, our numbers aren't good. So
instead of creating a negative play, if you have a
backed off if you have a backed off dB or
a corner on the receiver, throat to him. Let's get
one on one and okay, we'll make a move. We
get three or four yards, they tackle them by the feet.
We reached the ball out, get four yards whatever. But
sometimes Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings, they'd make a god miss
and score seventy yard touchdown.
Speaker 3: Because and it's just like.
Speaker 7: The running game, Like in the running game, when you
run counters, when you run outside sweeps, when you run
jet sweeps, which all you're trying to do is just
get one on one matchup, trying to with green grass.
Let a guy move. So it is an extension of
the running game. But as far as the running game, like,
what we need to hope for as fans is this
the the bright flickers that we've seen in practice of
a Caleb Jackson Like I went to I went to
a camp, I went to practice last year.
Speaker 3: It was a scrimmage and I texted you, like, Who's
I can't remember this.
Speaker 4: He said, who's twenty eight?
Speaker 3: It's I said, who's twenty eight? He damn near killed
a guy. It was with Weekes.
Speaker 7: He can in the country, and he flattened him in
a practice and he made play after play after play
that price.
Speaker 3: I was like, who is this guy? This guy's gonna
be an all American. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Of course after that learned like he's got his he's
got his ups and his downs. He had little ball
security issues. I think he can be to catan dirt.
He can be that change up that like a Tobert
used to be. You come in and just all right,
my guy.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 7: As a defense, I'm facing this really versatile, talented running
back garrettnus Meyer's play action where they're completing passes like
we're gassed. As a defense, we're getting tied, and all
of a sudden, you got Caleb Jackson coming in there
one hundred percent energy. And when I see I've seen
him do it in practice and he's going against a
gas or a tire defense as a change up. If
he can fill that role, like that's a dynamic situation
we have in the back that if he can do
it now that remains to be seen, but I can
tell you there's gonna be moments this year if they
use it correctly, that he can be a change up
and an intimidating change up where it's like the defense
and the linebackers and the safety that's having to like
come down and cover three or cover one or whatever
to be that they're gonna be. All right, I'm gonna
have to meet this guy in the B gap like
one on one because that's just tackle football is like,
I'm gassed, I'm tired, the shoulders a little sore. I'm like,
but you got this guy running a hundred mile an
hour at me, and I know he's about to even
though it's illegal, he's about to hit me with a
crown of his helmet, right, and it's not gonna get
called because it's within the running back. It's a running back,
so it's within the tackle box, all right.
Speaker 5: So let me ask you somebody, so you know, the
ball security stuff is one thing, and also like the
vision portion of this, and it might not even be
a vision thing. It's like because I look, did we
run out of gun some in two thousand and seven
we did, for sure, but I wanted to be toes
at seven and a half dot in the eye going
downhill like that was my stream at a pistol. I
love running zone out of a pistol. I think Caleb
has some of that too. It's like him being in
gun and going across the formation, then turning his shoulders
and going you're taking away one of his biggest strengths,
which is his size and his power. Yep, right, put
him if you don't want to do under centered now
they look, they've done some of that in the practice
that they have. We have seen and we've never seen
that before. No, so they're going to do some of that.
But even if you don't, Hey, starting gun with the
back next to you, get a quick shift. Let him
go back there in pistol and run zone, run power,
run counter. Everything can be run out of a pistol formation.
You can look free release him on a swing, getting
the ball right now, because if you have a back
that has a skill set and maybe you know what
you mainly do doesn't highlight his skill set. Well, when
he's in the game, you got a couple things, will
you switch it up? You don't fall in the tendencies.
But if you have multiple things up, you don't fall
in the tendencies.
Speaker 4: And so I would say like.
Speaker 5: For him, because he does have a very good skill set,
it's just maybe not matching up with what LSU has
done in the past.
Speaker 7: And the running ball, it was all inside zone like
that side zone last year. We couldn't the inside zone
blocking scheme and the way we will ext you it
is not good Like he can't. He's one of those
backset isn't going to hit the get hit at the
line of scrimmage and figure out like bounce around to
find a hole to hit.
Speaker 3: Like you got to rencounter with him, You got to
power with him.
Speaker 7: You have to let the let the play develop and
then let him become a raging bull.
Speaker 3: Yes, and just run straight down. He'll see red and go.
Speaker 7: And if they can do that, like inside zone, if
we block it, well great, like the way we blocked
it last year. He's gonna run and he's gonna run
into the back of the guard. You get two yards,
he's gonna run in the back of the guard. He's
gonna hit the guard. The guard is gonna go because
he just got hitting the back by a big running
back and he's gonna like push the pile for a
yard and a half.
Speaker 5: The play that you're talking about that you were at
camp and he had the highlight play that was a
swing pass right, get the ball to him in space
and let the big dog eat, as we like to
say here.
Speaker 7: That is the kind of guy that DB's, especially later
in the game when like the that beginning of the game,
adrenaline stops running because like that happens in a big game.
You got the adrenaline, like you feel like you could
run to a wall on both sides of the ball.
That wears off. Eventually you get tired and it's like,
oh my god, this guy's fresh.
Speaker 3: His jersey's clean.
Speaker 7: It's beginning or mid second quarter and he is a
hoss and that dude is running down hill let me
And as a dB, you don't want to be in the.
Speaker 3: Open field with a guy like that.
Speaker 7: So I just think from a running game standpoint and
a change up standpoint, he could be a big difference
maker this year.
Speaker 5: Brambo talks about kind of, you know, Caleb being compared
to Keelan Williams maybe like in the body type and
the look and looks incredible in his uniform. But I
would say his running style is is more like Charles
Scott where he wants contact, like Keilan was going to
run around, run around, gym past you, or Charles was like,
I'm going to find you, put crosshairs right there on
your chest and try to run through you.
Speaker 4: Like it's different running style.
Speaker 7: It kind of like both work, like you could have
scored a lot more touchdowns if you didn't like, oh
for sure, Phil and just try to find the nearest
person they.
Speaker 5: No doubt, no doubt. I'll I'll never forget watching film
with Dually. He's like, hey, hes, you see all that
green grass right here. Yeah, that's what we're trying to
run towards, not the Georgia player.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay, got it. Noted.
Speaker 7: So Caleb Jackson feels like that player. He is going
to look for contact as soon as he gets the
ball out in open space.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, which is great. Like you need running backs
like that.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying you're not trying to score a touchdown,
but you need a tone setter. You need somebody that
the safety's like, you know what, man, I'm tired of this,
and so what do they start doing they start half
stepping into filling that gap, and then that's when Kale
Jackson puts a shoulder down, runs through a half tackle,
and then you know, run sixty yards.
Speaker 4: So like he is crucial.
Speaker 5: We talked about, you know, some of the defensive guys
who are crucial for LSU success. I know this isn't
a starter, and I think the first team running back
is going to be an All conference player, but Cayleb
Jackson is going to be huge to the success of
not just this offense, but the team and what he
can give you because he has got a great skill set.
Speaker 4: Now he's got to take care of the football. He's
got to catch the football.
Speaker 5: Like those are things for him individually, but if they
can find a way to get him involved, that's an
added weapon.
Speaker 7: I would love to see him mid second quarter catch
a screen pass on the edge. I tell you, it's
just a tone cetter. It's like an enforcer going out there,
a little bit of a tones centter ooh.
Speaker 3: A forcer.
Speaker 4: I like that, like that little hockey term, big hockey guy.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean he looks like an enforced a stickhead.
Speaker 4: All right, let's let's take a.
Speaker 5: Break before you continue on with that more OTB when
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Speaker 4: I like that better. Yeah, don't be a puckhead.
Speaker 3: Oh that was a stitchhead in baseball. You work.
Speaker 4: This went straight through the Yeah, kind of like the stick.
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Speaker 1: Locked in on LSU football twenty four to seven. You're
listening to Off the Bench.
Speaker 8: I'll sit around.
Speaker 12: And watch the tube, but nothing's on. I change that
Jens for two till my drums just for a bit.
I'll say the same.
Speaker 3: In US with the lock doors and I'm.
Speaker 5: All right, welcome back.
Speaker 4: You know TV one O four five, ESPN bnrude.
Speaker 7: This sounds like one of my favorite playlists to play
on whether whatever your music app of choices, which would
be nineties frat barbecue, which is one of my favorite
things to type.
Speaker 4: In nineties frat barbecue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, type it in.
Speaker 9: So I don't have Spotify, but is this one of
those playlists that they make for you and they title
it or whatever.
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, they make they make a lot of playlists,
but like user generated playlist That's why Spotify is kind
of cool. I don't know if you can do that
on Apple Music or not. So like anything I'm doing,
like if I'm at the office and I'm just like, hey,
I need some chill music at the office for Tuesday,
there is like chill Tuesday office music playlist like that
somebody in the world has made yeah, or hey, what
are you doing grilling steaks on a Sunday And there's
a grilling steaks on a Sunday playlist. Anything you're doing
or feeling, you just type it in. Somebody has made
a user playlist and you can listen to anybody's playlist
and anybody's made.
Speaker 8: But they make you them too, right, Like there's like
and they have like goofy titles.
Speaker 3: On the Spotify DJ which is kind of cool. He
gets on there, he's like, what's up.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's funny. He plays music, plays music right there.
But I'm kind of mad at Spotify right now. Why
because their family account is so not user friendly. So
I want a family account, Like when you get a
Netflix account, Like you turn on Netflix and you got mom,
dad and all the kids, like everybody's got their own profile. Well,
on the Spotify and you get the flap the family account,
you pay a little extra and they're like, okay, you
get all these profiles.
Speaker 3: Well it doesn't work that way.
Speaker 7: You have to like get your own email address and
sign in for each profile, even if it's a kid
and it just makes it really confusing. Like I don't
have to sign into my kid's account to see what
music is it?
Speaker 3: None that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you can do parental controls and stuff. There's a
way around everything, right. I just wanted to be like,
go to Spotify and you hit the you know, top
right button and like the five profiles pop down, You
got you got stuff there. He's got all his music,
you got laces, you got mine, you got all our
music right there. I don't have to sign in get
my kid an email account. So it's just not user
friendly and it's dumb. So I'm mad at it.
Speaker 4: Good an Apple and a larger team Apple Music, I
find it very user Do.
Speaker 7: They have nineties for barbecue? Can you check that out?
That'd be a big big They have all kinds.
Speaker 8: Of playlists, They have all kinds of playlists.
Speaker 3: Someone asked, I mean I'm a.
Speaker 8: Barbecue or like, I can see they.
Speaker 3: Have sell me this tell me this pencil right now.
Speaker 8: Well, the number one selling point would be that you
wouldn't have to deal with all of that with your family.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Like the music quality I think is yeah, the quality
is what.
Speaker 3: Do you mean music quality? Spotify has every song.
Speaker 8: Like the sound of it.
Speaker 3: The sound of it.
Speaker 2: It's your headphones.
Speaker 8: Maybe I think what that means that barbecue party?
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 7: The sound quality, Like you're streaming something, there's only a
certain quality you can get to a stream. It's kind
of like when you buy like the ultimate premium.
Speaker 5: Like live versions of songs like in the Apple Music
like studios sometimes like I have that.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Okay, So when you go TV shopping, like never buy
the premium TV because like they have these premium TVs.
Speaker 3: You can buy, you know, any side. You can buy
sixty five h TV for like four hundred bucks, five
hundred bucks. They also have one for like four thousand
dollars a jigabyt.
Speaker 7: Don't do it because with streaming there's only a certain
mount Like there's only a certain level of quality you
can get to.
Speaker 3: So unless you're like playing I don't know.
Speaker 9: We also have like spatial I don't know if Spotify
has it, but they have like that spatial audio thing
where you can h like you have to measure your
you know how, like whenever you're doing the face idea
or whatever, and it makes you do your face like
this and you turn your head and all that okay,
So you can do that with Apple Music, and it's
like spatial audio, so you can hear it like certain
aspects of the song and certain sides of the headphone.
Speaker 3: If that if I'm turning my head No, no, no, just.
Speaker 9: In general, like once you do it, they make you
do that to get your like I guess measurements.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and then so after you do that, they have
the spatial audio. I don't know if Spotify has that.
Speaker 3: But sounds like pretty cool.
Speaker 7: Sounds like marketing pitch you like, pretty based on the
shape of my face, it's gonna play music.
Speaker 8: I'm probably explaining that big head.
Speaker 4: I mean, I've got a big head.
Speaker 3: It's true.
Speaker 5: I mean you got headphones in right now, look like
you're about to break into don't stop believing, you know
on stage? Got the like real professional looking Oh yeah,
musician headphones.
Speaker 3: Hey.
Speaker 7: I got these on Amazon when I first started here.
I know, I think they were twenty four ninety nine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not bad.
Speaker 7: They look prof They look like I went to the
I don't know you would go the doctor and get
like the plaster put in my ear to have the
custom made ones, yeah, but they're not. These are stock
from Amazon. They do wrap around the ear though, which
is very nice. Hard to find earbuds that have just
the regular plug these days. Most earbuds that you're gonna
get out there at the store especially. I went to
like three stores. All of them are Bluetooth these days.
Hard to find one with a wire that it is.
Speaker 4: That's why these are from twenty eleven at least.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So the only shot you got is going to
Amazon buying something like this, or I looked for some
beats by Dre with the wire. I had to go
to eBay to find that. I bought a pair, and
the guy bought it from was like, hey, you sure
you want these? It says right there in the listing
that the right one doesn't work. Like nah, I thought
I was just kidding a good deal. I was a
good deal for none that none good good deal.
Speaker 3: So I got these. Didn't even try him, didn't even
test him out anyway. Apple Apple Music, huh, yeah, so
they have a DJ. I'm sure you can figure something.
Speaker 4: I mean, do you really need a DJ?
Speaker 3: Be Like, what's up, Lynn? Do you need that?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 5: I'll just record it like we did the Dear Delandre
sound and you can just play it before Yeah, it
feels like he really knows me though he doesn't.
Speaker 8: He doesn't he's a I, he's not GBT knows me.
Speaker 4: That's true in the wrong direction, many many times.
Speaker 3: I absolutely love that guy. Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 8: I don't love the way you're talking about a I.
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm gingdering a I A. You are whatever
gender you want it to be. People. So when we
come back, I think it was I think it was
our guy. Mall. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Chris Marler put it out on Louisiana Sports dot Net.
He gave the power rankings for the SEC.
Speaker 3: I want to have a.
Speaker 5: Different look at the power rankings. I don't really care
right now who's number one, Like we'll tell you who's
number one. But I got a different question that I
want to ask the room when we come back here
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Speaker 1: Locked in on LSU Football twenty four to seven. You're
listening to Off the Bench.
Speaker 10: Jerry.
Speaker 2: Forget about the things I said when.
Speaker 4: I talk You didn't mean to call you that.
Speaker 8: I can't remember what was said or what.
Speaker 3: Nighty sprap haarbcue.
Speaker 5: All right, welcome back in OTV one of four five
ESPN Betton Rouge. As I said, our guy Chris Marler
has a great article up right now. Our power ranking
the SEC goes all the way from sixteen down to
number one, and a lot of shows probably go all
the way to number one. They probably highlight the best
team that is on the power rankings, and you break
down and you argue and you whatever whatever about it.
That's not the style of OTV. We are going to
go around the room and we are going to give
the absolute worst team in the SEC. Who do we
think is going to finish at the very bottom of
the standings.
Speaker 4: Hey, take, because I know you've always got a take
ready to go? Who you got, sir?
Speaker 2: The Kentucky Wildcats. I have at number sixteen.
Speaker 6: I considered Mississippi State, but Blake Shapin eleven touchdowns only
one pick until he got last year.
Speaker 2: I'm going Kentucky. Their quarterback situation is atrocious.
Speaker 5: Yes, bad, it's bad bad, It is bad bad, it
is actively horrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah that call?
Speaker 4: I yes, he still plays college football?
Speaker 3: What the same one? Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like twelve school a laundrop.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go Auburn.
Speaker 12: Oh I like that.
Speaker 9: Okay, Kentucky is a good pick for finishing last, but
I'm gonna go Auburn.
Speaker 12: I like that.
Speaker 3: I like that they got it.
Speaker 5: They got a different coach, they got a different coach
calling every down, first, second down, third down. Never heard that.
Speaker 3: Is horrible that we ever figured out who's got fourth
We did not lank it and asked the question question.
Speaker 8: Maybe it's like a committee.
Speaker 2: They're keeping all of them.
Speaker 13: They're keeping that they're gonna be the best fourth down
team in the country. I got to keep people guessing,
keep them on their toes. All right, Matthew, all right, Okay,
I can't say Kentucky. It's been taken.
Speaker 7: I wasn't gonna say Auburn because they might be a
little surprised this year. I'm not gonnay Misisippi State because
my boy, Jeff Levitt, we're gonna go with Arkansas.
Speaker 3: Arkansas.
Speaker 2: Arkansas is gonna be the worst.
Speaker 9: We haven't even talked about Taylor Green, not once, because
we know what he is.
Speaker 2: And he's outstanding the marriage.
Speaker 3: So I think Arkansas and Kentucky probably gonna be battling
it out.
Speaker 7: And just for no reason at all, I'm just gonna
say Missippi State is gonna be the third worst.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to Mississippi State because I'm not gonna
hate on Jeff Levy. I'm not gonna hate on Shreveport
evangel and Blake Shaping. So I am going to give
a boring answer and agree with tat Now. Y'all know
I've given Kentucky a lot of love over the years,
but I'm going to agree with Taylor. They're going to
be the worst team in the SEC, which I hate
for my guy Mark Stoops.
Speaker 4: I love that guy, but they have no juice. It's
gonna be the Kentucky Wildcat off the bench.
Speaker 3: That's a tough one.
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