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Speaker 1: If you look at the way that debt works, whether

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it be credit cards, mortgages, whatever, You got the terms

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of repayment set by the lender, and like you said,

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a thirty year mortgage. You know that's just the bare minimum.

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That's what you're signed up for, but the bank's not

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telling you it's going to take you thirty years.

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Speaker 3: And welcome. You are listening to and watching the Financial

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Speaker 4: I'm your host, Carrie Lutz.

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Speaker 3: Well, I first came across this person about ten years ago.

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Bill Westrom has the unique ability to enable you to

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pay off your mortgage in five to seven years, without

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a lot of pain, without digging into your savings, without

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borrowing the money from somebody else, Peter to pay Paul.

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He's been doing it for nineteen years now, and well,

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it's it's quite an interesting story. You find him at

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truthinequity dot com. And if you've got a question for

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Bill or myself, shoot me an email kl at Carrie

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LUTs dot com. Bill, great to connect with you again, So.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you, Carry it's pleasure to be back.

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Speaker 3: So your system here. How can you pay off your

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mortgage in five to seven years when you know the

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mortgage is designed to be paid off in fifteen or

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thirty in old likelihood you'll probably sell the house before

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you actually pay off the mortgage.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's all a matter of leverage, Palp.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at the way that debt works,

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whether it be credit cards, mortgages, whatever, you got the

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terms of repayment set by the lender. And like you said,

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a thirty year mortgage, you know that's just the bare minimum.

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That's what you signed up for. But the bank's not

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telling you it's going to take you thirty years. All

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you got to do is, you know, if you want

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to make it, pay it off in ten years and

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make a ten year payment. And so it's again it's

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the terms of repayment that are killing everybody versus the

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amount they owe or the interest rate.

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Speaker 4: And that's what my.

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Speaker 1: Program is all about, is just to leverage more of

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your income against that debt and through the process that

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debt melts away like an ice cube under a hair dryer.

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But it is just a matter of leverage. You just

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leverage more income against the debt.

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Speaker 4: So how do you do it? And it sounds good?

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But how do you do it? How is it done?

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What's the magic behind? How's it done?

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Speaker 1: The magic behind it is a line of credit, a

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revolving line of credit. And then whether it be a

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home quit you line of credit unsecured or even on

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a credit card. And the reason that it works that

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way and it's so special is because you got the

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evolving door, which means you can get everything you've got

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income wise, paycheck wise to the line of credit as

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a payment, but you don't lose liquidity to go pay

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your bills. And as I describe it to people, the

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line of credit basically becomes a vault. You still receive

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income into checking account, you still pay bills from a

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checking account, but in the middle of that you deposit

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transfer your money in toto that line of credit. Because

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your paycheck acts like a big payment. So if you

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Speaker 3: Five hundred dollars payment regularly or a five thousand dollars

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Speaker 4: That five thousand dollars paycheck.

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Speaker 1: Is going to push that balance is to its lowest level,

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which means you're paying the lowest amount of interest because

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you got that low balance. And so that's really how

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it works. Leverage your income through that line of credit

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to save interest and accelerate the repayment.

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Speaker 4: It's a very simple concept. It's a very simple process. Really.

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Speaker 1: What I can get paid to do is untangle people

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from the conventional world getting that income from whatever checking

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account it's received, getting it into the line of credit.

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The most special thing I do though, as far as

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the acceleration process and saving interest, is I help people

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establish a bill pay day. So if you take all

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those transactions, all your bills for the month, believe it

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or not, you can get it and moved to one day.

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Now one hundred percent of your vendors and merchants and

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all that they may not play ball with us, so

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we can deal with those outliers. But that's probably the

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most important thing I do do is establish a bill

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pay day, so the income can save interest for twenty

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Speaker 4: You pay your bills on one day m hm, okay,

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Speaker 1: That's an examp maximum efficiency in my program credit a linement.

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Speaker 4: Give us an example how this work?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: All right, now, I'm going to use a number, say

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twenty thousand dollars. If we had a twenty thousand dollars

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debt in a line of credit, and if you're in,

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I'm set in, you're checking account, you're going to pay

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interest on twenty grand.

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Speaker 1: So let's assume we got a ten thousand dollars monthly income.

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twenty grand minus the ten thousand income is going to

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drop the balance down to ten grand.

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Speaker 4: Does that make sense right? So is it treated like

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Speaker 3: So you took twenty thousand off your credit line and

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you paid down your mortgage with that twenty It could be.

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Speaker 1: The mortgage, it could be a vehicle, could be credit cards,

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loan debt, the line of credit, or I I don't

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care where the money goes. I mean, I've got people

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using this to take vacations, to buy cars, to buy

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real estate. So whatever you want to use the money for,

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you use the money. But now we've got a twenty

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thousand dollars ballance, and that's what they're going to use.

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being charged. Now when that paycheck sits in the checking account,

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the bank gets access to that money, and that's how

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they make their money. They go take our deposits and

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leverage them into some asset whatever.

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Speaker 4: That being a loan is an asset to the bank.

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Speaker 1: That's what they're that's why they lend money to create

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assets I either promise or not, and they go make

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money with it. Well, under credit line banking, you're taking

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the money out of their hands, leveraging it for your

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own financial gain in the form of interest savings. And

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it's all your money. The bank can't go in there

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and get it. And so again it's just leverage. It's

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the best word I can use describe what's happening in

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this process is just leverage your money against that balance.

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the form of interest, all right, so to me. And

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so once you have your money in there, it sits there. Yeah,

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bill payday comes along and you pull your expenses out

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of it. Now a lot of people think, oh, I'm

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borrowing money to pay my bills because it's coming out

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of a credit instrument. But you're not borrowing money to

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pay your bills. You're going to get your income because

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that's where you put it. It's been residing in that

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line of credit, saving you interest. So naturally, with it

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being credit, when you pull your expenses out, that balance

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is going to come up, which is okay, let's expect it.

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for evample, we pulled eight grand out for our expenses.

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two thousand dollars difference. Where did that come from? Well,

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I twenty went to eighteen ten thousand minus eight, there's

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two thousand right across the board. And so if that

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month we paid back two thousand. Now, if you can

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average two thousand a month, then it's pretty easily to

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calculate how quickly you could pay off. You just take

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the balance twenty grand divided by an average two thousand

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dollars surplus, and you've got twenty grand paid off in

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ten months, which is a beautiful thing. This happens every

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got the twenty grand paid off, and the twenty grand

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is sitting there right in your line of credit. You

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get to go recycle and reuse that line of credit

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for as long as you want to. A line of

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credit actually is an endless supply of working capital when

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you run credit line banking, because you're continually borrowing and

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paying back.

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Speaker 4: So I want to listen to do some thing I've

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Speaker 3: Do I want to get a cash advance for my

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bank here or because then they charge you no interest

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safe for a year, but then you're paying a three

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percent or four percent service George for the advance.

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Speaker 1: YEP, I don't call that interest, call it anything you want, right,

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just costs. Yeah, bottom line, no now zero percent thing. Yeah,

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it looks good on paper. These companies are really good

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at getting people focused on an interest rate. But the

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interest rate doesn't cost you the money. The balance does.

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the example I just gave you, if we take it

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from twenty to ten, we cut the balance in half,

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which means we cut the interest in half. We didn't

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have to chase the interest rate to lower interest. We

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chase the balance. And when you focus and chase the balance,

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things just melt away faster than you ever thought. And

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when it comes to interest and all that, I get

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my people, my students, to not worry about it. You know,

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if you don't want to pay interest, don't borrow money.

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don't earn any money. But that's not reality in our

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society anymore. I mean, debt is a constant. It's not

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going away. And that's why I'm so adamant about what

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I do, because if you look at the government, we

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owe thirty six trillion. But the government's got tariffs and taxes.

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that debt. And if you slide over the consumer side,

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we owe eighteen trillion. But when it comes to getting

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rid of that debt, we have no options except to

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earn more, to spend less, chase interest rates, and play

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this traditional game that the traditional bankers and lenders and

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you know, the traditional model of capitalism in this country.

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I mean, that's the end result is eighteen trillion to

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the public, but we don't have a relief and our

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debts grown by approximately eight trillion since twenty twelve after

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the bubble popped. Interest rates have gone up continually over

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the last ten twelve years, but it didn't stop people

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from borrowing money.

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Speaker 4: People are going to if.

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Speaker 1: They need it, they're going to go borrow the money,

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and they're going to go buy it. And why I'm

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doing what I'm doing is because we need a better

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model of banking and borrowing. Otherwise that eighteen trillion is

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going to become twenty twenty five thirty. There's no hope

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for us or our children in the next generation if

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we don't get a better handle on our own personal.

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Speaker 4: Debt, because it just can't be. It's a cradle to

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grave such.

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Speaker 3: So I guess at nineteen years lation right now, I

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guess it's nine injurious for the country as a whole. Sure,

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So nineteen years of doing this bill tell us a

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couple of success stories.

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Speaker 4: Well I got a little a lot of success story

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Speaker 1: Well, it's just people paying off debt, you know, I've had.

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were only twenty eight years old when they joined me,

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and they had over two hundred grand and credit card

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debt and car payments, et cetera. And they got rid

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of all their credit or all their student loan debt

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excuse me, in matter five years. And they paid their

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mortgage off three years after that. So by the time

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they were not even forty, they were totally one hundred

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percent debt free. One recent gal that I'm working with,

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the scro seventy seven, she owns twenty twenty two pieces

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of real estate, with three of them with mortgages. There's

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a woman that you wouldn't think would need my help.

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She didn't need my help, but she did, yeah, need

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somebody to teach her how to unload this stuff, asked,

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And one thing she just recently did, she didn't want

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to tell me.

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Speaker 4: She pulled forty.

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Speaker 1: Grand out of her line of credit and she bought

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a four plex. Yeah, and so she's got another piece

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of real estate. And again the forty grand that you

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borrowed out of the line of credit. With her cash flow,

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it'll be paid off within the first first year. And

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then she'll just keep doing the same run the same

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strategy credit line banking to pay off the rest of it.

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So there's just a couple. I could spend an hour

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with you with all sorts of fun stuff.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: But I do get people too that come back three

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to five years later, you know, they said, Hey, I

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heard about this.

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Speaker 4: I wish I would have done it sooner.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure, I'm sure, all right, So Bill, just tell

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us how we find you on the web, how we

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connect with you, and to find out more about credit

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line banking.

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Speaker 1: Okay, go to truth inequity dot com and you'll find

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the contact link up in the upper right hand corner.

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You'll find my cell number, email address, and link to

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my calendar. If you want to take my number down now,

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I'll take any and every phone call three five two

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two three two one seven five one, and it all

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starts with a conversation just to get to know each other.

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There's no real sales process here. It's just a matter

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of getting to know each other, educating you on how

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this works, and.

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Speaker 4: Seeing if you're a good candidate.

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Speaker 3: All right, sounds fascinating and we definitely want to find

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out more about it. Hey, Bill, appreciate you coming on.

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If you've got a question for Bill or myself, shoot

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me an email kl at Carrie LUTs dot com. You'll

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find a link in the show notes this interview on

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Financial Survival Network. It'll take you right to Bill's site

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treuthonequity dot com.

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Speaker 4: And Bill, we'll.

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Speaker 3: Talk to you again soon. Thanks for coming by.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Gerry appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to Carrie. Let's this Financial Survival Network

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