Speaker 1: And bart. We always go to our man Roy Kent
Speaker 1: when we need some bringing everything back to center. When
Speaker 1: it comes to stupidity down here?
Speaker 2: What was the stupidity down here moment?
Speaker 1: Oh, the stupidity down here moment was racist stupidity from
Speaker 1: El Classico.
Speaker 2: Oh, racism in Spain.
Speaker 1: Not shocked, yes, no, not shocked. So you are how
Speaker 1: caffeine infused, are you, sir?
Speaker 2: Not enough? Because I'm still very tired at a moment
Speaker 2: like one o'clock last night.
Speaker 1: All right, so break down this weekend of yours and
Speaker 1: why why you are heavily fueled in g your caffeine here?
Speaker 2: So Saturday, I refereed four games, which is a little
Speaker 2: bit more than I normally do. Yeah uh, And then
Speaker 2: had a Halloween party Saturday. Woke up early on Sunday
Speaker 2: morning to drive to Nashville to Yes women's national team
Speaker 2: drummed all ninety minutes, got in a car, drove back
Speaker 2: to Atlanta. Well, I wrote, and I drive thankfully, but ye,
Speaker 2: back to Atlanta after the game. And obviously that time
Speaker 2: change is you know, it's not immense, but it definitely
Speaker 2: is a little different when you go from central to
Speaker 2: Eastern And yes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, it is, and this is and this is
Speaker 1: what I try to tell folks when I end up
Speaker 1: when the bosson, I go and visit her family over
Speaker 1: in God's time zone. Just ask her. And we're right there.
Speaker 1: We're probably maybe a half hour on the other side
Speaker 1: of the Alabama Georgia border. You feel it, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean you just drift over that. You just drift over
Speaker 1: the time zone line. You feel it. You're still thinking
Speaker 1: that you're on Eastern time and you get the wall
Speaker 1: smashed right in front of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't change my watch when I go because
Speaker 2: it's not worth it. But it also is a reminder
Speaker 2: that like, oh wait it is. My body is like
Speaker 2: thinking it's later than it.
Speaker 1: Actually, uh huh exactly. So I do have some things
Speaker 1: that I did want to discuss with you this morning
Speaker 1: in your increasingly caffeinated, fueled up individual. Let's start with
Speaker 1: what happened in Nashville, and we'll go through the numbers,
Speaker 1: and we'll go through the rage that traditionally is attached
Speaker 1: to it by our friends at Soccer America. But it
Speaker 1: was a chance for you to drum for full ninety minutes.
Speaker 1: First off, let me ask how packed was g otis
Speaker 1: by the way as he thinks about.
Speaker 2: It, it was more than half full. Okay, the official
Speaker 2: attendance was seventeen thousand, which, as you know, John, that
Speaker 2: is a thirty thousand seat stadium. Yes, it was not full, Abbey.
Speaker 2: I think the lower bawl was pretty filled in the
Speaker 2: upper level was not. But you know, again, this is
Speaker 2: the criticism of US soccer, where they like to play
Speaker 2: at venues they feel comfortable in. But problem there is
Speaker 2: you're tapping into a market one too many times and
Speaker 2: the novelty and specialty of the national team come into town.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I know the men have played
Speaker 2: in Austin five times, you know, since it opened. Giodis
Speaker 2: I think is hosted the women four times on top
Speaker 2: of the men's game. You know, Austin has hosted two
Speaker 2: games for either team this month. So look glad they're
Speaker 2: playing in Louisville on Wednesday. That will probably be you know,
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a full house. Last
Speaker 2: I sold sell like seven hundred tickets. But tickets to
Speaker 2: the game, John started at forty dollars normal price. Now
Speaker 2: they did a right now, they did a promotion for
Speaker 2: like a week for the Kelly O'Hara special, which was
Speaker 2: sixteen dollar tickets in the upper two hundred levels. Okay,
Speaker 2: clearly the up the two hundreds just should have been
Speaker 2: sixteen dollars tickets for any seat in the two hundreds
Speaker 2: because if they just weren't full, And when you're charging
Speaker 2: people forty dollars for a friendly against Iceland, Yes, he's
Speaker 2: not a bad team by any stretch, that's not. It's just,
Speaker 2: you know, it's not a name that resonates with people,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna struggle to fill the house. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think US Soccer is learning this fall that they
Speaker 2: are vastly overpricing their I hope they're learning. I hope
Speaker 2: they're learning they're vastly overpricing their product. I will say,
Speaker 2: the tickets to the Nations League game in Saint Louis
Speaker 2: in November, I think they started at forty dollars, which
Speaker 2: I think is a fair price for an actual competitive match.
Speaker 2: But we'll see how full Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: Is mm hmm. And speaking of full, according to Doug
Speaker 1: Robertson of the AJAC Mercedes been opened the full capacity
Speaker 1: for the playoff match against.
Speaker 2: Me, I'm sure that is going to be full. Of
Speaker 2: Atlantic undded fans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let me circle back. So you're saying that
Speaker 1: no offense to the goal scorer, but Carolina Vshalms de
Speaker 1: tear did not fill g otis no.
Speaker 2: I also, I don't think she scored. I think that
Speaker 2: should be credited to Casey Murphy on goal because she
Speaker 2: dropped the ball literally and caused that goal to happen.
Speaker 2: So okay, all right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah. So USA ends up winning three to one.
Speaker 1: Vashalm's the Teer scores in the thirty first to make
Speaker 1: it one nial and I'm wondering. I'm wondering, and I
Speaker 1: might have had this conversation with myself, and I said self,
Speaker 1: what is Emma Hayes having a discussion about with her
Speaker 1: club right now being down one nil at the break
Speaker 1: on a on a Casey Murphy og credited to Carolina
Speaker 1: Vishalm's the teer.
Speaker 2: Well, when you looked at the starting lineup, I think
Speaker 2: it was fair that you could tell that this was
Speaker 2: not Emma trying to play her best eleven. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, you know, I think if Emma were
Speaker 2: to take a concern from the first half, it was
Speaker 2: we were settling for easy passes or we weren't settling for,
Speaker 2: we weren't trying to find better passes. We were trying
Speaker 2: to settle for just get the ball off my foot
Speaker 2: and try to put it into the box instead of
Speaker 2: trying to create opportunities. You know, there were still chances
Speaker 2: created that way, as you know, you're likely going to
Speaker 2: create a lot of chances when the likes of you know,
Speaker 2: Mouse Swanson are on the field. But I think it
Speaker 2: was just a little I don't want to say lazy,
Speaker 2: but it was just a little too unsophisticated. Would probably
Speaker 2: be the word that she would be concerned with. Is
Speaker 2: it just wasn't trying to take the next step in
Speaker 2: what that progression should be. And so there are a
Speaker 2: lot of like you know, clipped balls, floated balls to
Speaker 2: the attackers in the penalty area, which John, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you noticed, but probably not the best idea
Speaker 2: against Iceland to put a.
Speaker 1: Ball in the hocks.
Speaker 2: The goalkeeper is taller than Casey Murphy and they had
Speaker 2: a lot of great, you know, tall defenders. That's just
Speaker 2: not a winning recipe. But at the same time you
Speaker 2: have to say, well, we're trying out, you know, all
Speaker 2: these different players girls who are getting their first caps,
Speaker 2: girls who are not fully you know, integrated into the
Speaker 2: national team right now, and that in itself is a positive.
Speaker 2: But you saw it halftime, she made changes three goals,
Speaker 2: So you know, I think that says a lot about
Speaker 2: her mindset of she wants to win these games, but
Speaker 2: she also understands the value of getting new players, fresh
Speaker 2: blood into the lineup. I mean, Emily Sam's who up
Speaker 2: until now had more gold medals than she did caps
Speaker 2: for the US national team, gets her first cap and
Speaker 2: a start right She's never played for the team before,
Speaker 2: but she starts alongside Emily's Sonnet in the back line.
Speaker 2: I thought she was very good. But that's just an
Speaker 2: example of you know, there were some new faces in
Speaker 2: the starting eleven, and you could tell that some of
Speaker 2: them hadn't quite understood what it means to play at
Speaker 2: the international level, which you don't get until you play
Speaker 2: literally play at the international level.
Speaker 1: So the whole playing at the international level helps with
Speaker 1: the experience they would get playing at.
Speaker 2: The international Yeah, you know, you got to have ten
Speaker 2: years experience before you get ten years experienced, I think,
Speaker 2: but you know it is, you know, the case, you
Speaker 2: can play really well, at the WSL level, play really
Speaker 2: well with your club team, get that call in and
Speaker 2: earn that call up, right, But even in training and
Speaker 2: the US national team, you know, they are very intense,
Speaker 2: they keep a high standard. But once you go out
Speaker 2: on that field where there's another collection of really darn
Speaker 2: good international caliber players trying to prevent you from doing
Speaker 2: all the things you want to do, like Iceland did
Speaker 2: very well, that's where that quality has to click on
Speaker 2: and you go, Okay, well, how do I make my
Speaker 2: better decisions, how do I find better passes, and how
Speaker 2: do I help my team, you know, get in better
Speaker 2: positions to score. And I think that was the struggle
Speaker 2: of the first half. You brought on some new some
Speaker 2: old blood if you will, Sorry sorry Lynn Williams, but
Speaker 2: you brought on some old heads, you know, who kind
Speaker 2: of have that composure of that experience, that quality for
Speaker 2: an international level. Mixed it with some of the younger
Speaker 2: players in a series being one of them, Alyssa Thompson
Speaker 2: being another who glad to see her backs producing for
Speaker 2: the national team, and that helped score three goals. You know,
Speaker 2: That's that's what it does. It also is just a
Speaker 2: case of the US still being, you know, a physically
Speaker 2: dominant team, even against a team that's pretty physically dominant themselves.
Speaker 1: So you end up with two goals with the with
Speaker 1: the old Blood coming in, two goals in four minutes,
Speaker 1: Lyn Williams, Lindsay Horan seventy two and seventy six, and
Speaker 1: you end up with Emma Sears getting that goal at
Speaker 1: ninety plus three. And by the time you're done, I mean,
Speaker 1: and I think that we have to look at this.
Speaker 1: To Abby's point, in to your point here. We can
Speaker 1: look at numbers all day long, specifically stats. We'll go
Speaker 1: through the you know who played, what the numbers are.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, Emma Hayes is
Speaker 1: looking for other things. And yeah, you might have been
Speaker 1: dominant across the board, but it's a dominant butt because
Speaker 1: shots were seventeen to four, shots on target five to three,
Speaker 1: three of those end up in the back of the net,
Speaker 1: two saves each side, six corners to one, twenty two fouls,
Speaker 1: thirteen of them to Iceland. Five times you were off
Speaker 1: side and you have possession two thirds of the time.
Speaker 1: That to me is no real surprise considering that Iceland
Speaker 1: likes to go to the Laredo garage and hang out
Speaker 1: with Marta buses most of the time when they want
Speaker 1: to do things. Oh good, An, absolutely, so, I mean
Speaker 1: that's where that's that's where we are here, and Jared's
Speaker 1: dropping by as we're discussing women's national team and stuff.
Speaker 1: What's up, Jarrett?
Speaker 3: Oh not much? Yeah, Look, damn women's I clicked over
Speaker 3: at like halftime. I was like, Oh, that's not the
Speaker 3: score line I expected. And then I was cooked over
Speaker 3: at the ninetieth minute, went that's the score line expected.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It felt a little Nick Saban's Alabama where the
Speaker 2: team is like, oh, we got this, We're hanging in
Speaker 2: and this is good, and then you look at the
Speaker 2: end of the game, you go, why do I have
Speaker 2: a black eye? You know?
Speaker 3: Also, how did they run? How did they run the
Speaker 3: ball for six hundred yards?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: It is soccer. They're not allowed to run the ball like.
Speaker 2: That, And it felt that way. It felt that way, jar.
Speaker 3: Look, I planned the flag for Jenn and I swanger
Speaker 3: at all moments. I she is an absolute.
Speaker 2: Joy to watch, so absolutely, But there are good performances,
Speaker 2: you know, individually, again, I'll shout out I thought Emily
Speaker 2: Sam's was very good in her first ever appearance for
Speaker 2: the national team and playing with Sonnet, who you know,
Speaker 2: I think is a very experienced player but probably not
Speaker 2: really a factor for the twenty twenty seven cycle. But
Speaker 2: let me rephrase, maybe shouldn't be a factor. We need
Speaker 2: to figure out if we can find other center backs
Speaker 2: better than Sonnet because she's on the other side of
Speaker 2: thirty unfortunately for her, and so Sam's putting out a
Speaker 2: great kind of film clip, you know of Hey, I
Speaker 2: can I can be Germa's partner. Tianna Davidson unfortunately has
Speaker 2: the Roosevelt case of made of glass and can't rely
Speaker 2: on her to stay healthy. So if you can get
Speaker 2: an Emma the Emily SAMs not in the series that's
Speaker 2: been confusing me all week. If you can get Emily Sam's,
Speaker 2: who has, by the way, playing on the best team
Speaker 2: in NWSL, the best defense in NWSL, if you can
Speaker 2: get her integrated into this team through this fall, right,
Speaker 2: that as a positive going forward to the actual next
Speaker 2: as we turn the page to the next cycle.
Speaker 3: Because I'm glad you mentioned that, because it's something that
Speaker 3: I felt like we haven't. I know, we've talked about
Speaker 3: it on here, but like as a as like a
Speaker 3: gelatinous collectivist fans in this country like we so often
Speaker 3: we enjoy these players and we don't. I feel like
Speaker 3: we often don't think enough about okay, but what's coming next?
Speaker 3: Because so and so is after post thirty years old
Speaker 3: and not trying to push them out the door. But
Speaker 3: I need to have somebody else there because father time
Speaker 3: is still unheated, and I want to make sure that yes,
Speaker 3: so and so is doing great. Okay, great, they're thirty
Speaker 3: one years old, right, we need to start getting minutes
Speaker 3: to younger players so we did not do not end
Speaker 3: up in another situation where we roll into a World
Speaker 3: Cup saying if everyone stays healthy, this could be a
Speaker 3: fun time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, and I thought we saw that Jared with a
Speaker 2: series on the other on the attacking end, who kind
Speaker 2: of looks like a younger Lynn Williams, fast strong, gets
Speaker 2: the great at getting the ball to the in line
Speaker 2: or getting her cross in. Probably needs to work on
Speaker 2: actually a little bit more of the finesse of the game.
Speaker 2: But she gets a goal and assist. That's good for her.
Speaker 2: Lynn Williams also with a goal in an assist, and
Speaker 2: I think that, to your point, is like Lynn is great,
Speaker 2: but she's on the wrong side of thirty as well.
Speaker 2: And the reality is you do have to find, if
Speaker 2: not replacements, the backups, and that's kind of the fact
Speaker 2: finding mission I think for this window is how do
Speaker 2: we fill in some of the backup roles on this team,
Speaker 2: specifically on the wing. I'll again shout out Alyssa Thompson.
Speaker 2: If you have Alyssa Thompson backing up mal Pugh on
Speaker 2: the left or excuse me, Male Swanson on the left wing,
Speaker 2: that's pretty darn good.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: If you can find Emma sears as you're back up
Speaker 2: now to Trinity Rodman on the right side, that's pretty
Speaker 2: darn good. So that that has been the positive of
Speaker 2: this particular windows so far. The results are whatever.
Speaker 1: Yes, the results are whatever. So our Soccer America sky
Speaker 1: is falling. Weekly friendly numbers. Casey Krueger Emily Sonnet got
Speaker 1: six as Emily Sam's gets an eight and her debugen
Speaker 1: and Eiswanger gets a five.
Speaker 2: Mid probably because she only played forty five minutes. I'll
Speaker 2: just say that.
Speaker 1: The midfield got four. Sam Coffee, Corbin Albert Olivia Moultrie.
Speaker 2: That was a tough midfield, mainly because you know Moultrie's
Speaker 2: oh is she nineteen yet? Yeah, she's nineteen. She turned
Speaker 2: nineteen two days before I had a birthday. Wow, so
Speaker 2: coffee Albert fine. Moultrie added into that doesn't give you
Speaker 2: what you need as a dynamic midfield just because she
Speaker 2: isn't there yet. But again, she's nineteen, she's playing professionally.
Speaker 2: I think this is her eight season playing professionally. It
Speaker 2: feels like I'm joking, but she was the one at
Speaker 2: fifteen who is like, hey, I want to play professionally.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, Carolina st had a fourteen year old player, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That was actually cool to see, So that that's more
Speaker 2: of a like, yeah, she had a rough game, but
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not a huge fan of his, but
Speaker 2: how many rough games have we seen from Jay Fortune?
Speaker 2: And he's finally becoming someone who at least not terrible.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of what you want to see from
Speaker 2: Moultrie is how do we get her to get continually
Speaker 2: better every time she steps out of the field. This
Speaker 2: was not a great game from her, but I understand why.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you've got Iceland as a competent team,
Speaker 2: like very competent. They're good, they have some very good individuals.
Speaker 2: That midfield was tough, and she didn't have a personally
Speaker 2: great game. Hopefully she learned. Hopefully Emma can take that
Speaker 2: film and say, hey, this is where we need you
Speaker 2: to get better. Jerry, you want to talk about Jay Fortune.
Speaker 3: I know, no, no, no, it's not that. It's it's
Speaker 3: it's that I love this conversation, not for Jay Fortune,
Speaker 3: because we had this conversation about George k Amble when
Speaker 3: he was here. Because George Campbell was just so nice
Speaker 3: and once and he would have those games where people
Speaker 3: were like, this guy is gonna be starting for this
Speaker 3: team next year, And then he would have games where
Speaker 3: I mentions would get lit up, like why is this
Speaker 3: person playing this sport professionally? To doing fine in Montreal.
Speaker 3: He's a good kid, he's fine.
Speaker 2: And luckily he's getting some extra rest of this offseason.
Speaker 3: He is. You know what, Brad made sure. Look, Brad's
Speaker 3: a good leader, Brad and made sure that boy got
Speaker 3: some good rest. Like he said, you know, a kid,
Speaker 3: you got a long future ahead. I'm gonna make sure
Speaker 3: you get some extra rest, get some time to review
Speaker 3: some film. I got you covered. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: That's just a good leader.
Speaker 1: Brad isam.
Speaker 3: But every time we talk about this like this, I
Speaker 3: always think back to the concept of pitching to cross
Speaker 3: our metaphors and baseball where they forget who I think
Speaker 3: it was one of the bravest three Aces mentioned that.
Speaker 3: You know, you only had your ace stuff only so often.
Speaker 3: What makes you really good is when you can when
Speaker 3: you can make it work when.
Speaker 2: It's not your day.
Speaker 3: And I'm glad you mentioned that about Multie. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: it wasn't a great game for her, but it's so
Speaker 3: important for these young players, I think, to learn when
Speaker 3: you don't have it, when you're not on your game,
Speaker 3: you got to make it work. And if that means
Speaker 3: you're occupying space, bringing people who are on their day
Speaker 3: into the game and trying to make everyone around you
Speaker 3: better than that's what you got to do. And you
Speaker 3: just got to make it work. And it's something that
Speaker 3: I don't know if we talk about enough on a
Speaker 3: broad spectrum.
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, I thought the midfield was rough the first half.
Speaker 2: You may changes you had a much better midfield performance
Speaker 2: in the second half and you score three goals. Weird
Speaker 2: how that works.
Speaker 1: Strange how that plays forwards up top male. Swanson got
Speaker 1: a six, Jade and Shaw got a six. I got four,
Speaker 1: yas me and Ryan. Her second cap got a six
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Shaw, not a great game from her. I do
Speaker 2: think that Swansen and Shaw, I don't know if they
Speaker 2: were deployed in the best way. They seem to be
Speaker 2: switching a lot painly. I don't know if that's Emma
Speaker 2: or Mal being mal, But you know, I think maybe
Speaker 2: for Jaden, she still needs to figure out what her
Speaker 2: best I mean, she's also young. Forget that, she's you
Speaker 2: know what, twenty, and she's still figuring out her best
Speaker 2: not just position, but her best moves and centers of
Speaker 2: gravity and you know what is she what is her
Speaker 2: best spot to make something happen on the field, And
Speaker 2: so when you're trying to figure that out, you know,
Speaker 2: at a different place than you are at your club position. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she did fine the first game. Second game, I mean
Speaker 2: that was great. But I think Jaden's one that you
Speaker 2: have to look at and go, Okay, she's going to
Speaker 2: fit into this team some The problem is is she
Speaker 2: going to be the Well. She can play attacking med well,
Speaker 2: she can play left wing well, she can play striker well,
Speaker 2: she can play right wing and then you go, but
Speaker 2: how do we get her in her best position? And
Speaker 2: I think Emma's trying to struggle to figure that out
Speaker 2: because John, there's a lot of other good players on
Speaker 2: this team, and she may not be better than the starters,
Speaker 2: you know, when fully healthy, but she's like slightly behind
Speaker 2: them in all of them. So it's just a matter
Speaker 2: of how do we get her in her best position,
Speaker 2: and sometimes it's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Goal scorers each got eights according to our friends at
Speaker 1: Soccer America, Alyssa Thompson ends up with a six, Emily
Speaker 1: Fox got a five, Sophia Smith got a five. Sam's
Speaker 1: becomes the first player to start on her WNT debut
Speaker 1: in two years. Sam coffee against Nigeria was the last
Speaker 1: in September of twenty twenty two, first player to record
Speaker 1: a goal and an assist in her debut since who
Speaker 1: Kristen Press. There you go two goals in an assist
Speaker 1: February ninth, twenty thirteen against Scotland.
Speaker 2: By the way, John, I have to say, yeah, Alyssa
Speaker 2: Thompson has been going to the Kristin Press school of
Speaker 2: playing a left wing because what she's doing is like, Oh,
Speaker 2: that's Kristin Press, but shorter. She's a tiny little one,
Speaker 2: but like you watch your play like, oh she like
Speaker 2: the goal she scored in the first game, it was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: that's a Kristin Press goal, and that's like that. I
Speaker 2: don't think Kristin Press has you know, I'm glad she's
Speaker 2: back playing for her personal health and mental health. But
Speaker 2: I don't know how much longer she has to play.
Speaker 2: But if she can just be the Oh, who's the
Speaker 2: dude who's specialty is literally just defensive ends. I can't
Speaker 2: remember his name in the NFL, like in college, he's
Speaker 2: not a coach. He just get brings people in for
Speaker 2: his own like training camps in the summer. Smith, yes, question, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like if Kristin Press can just be the like, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm taking all the left wing and we're going to
Speaker 2: learn how to do all these five things that make
Speaker 2: you a dynamic and golf scoring left.
Speaker 1: Christine Press Chuck Smith's summer camp.
Speaker 2: Yeah that.
Speaker 3: I I will always wonder what might have been with
Speaker 3: Kristin Press because if, like if if it had been
Speaker 3: a different era and she had stayed healthy and you
Speaker 3: had not had the absolutely fantastic. Yeah, the tail end
Speaker 3: of Abby Wamback's run yep, like sprinkle in some Sidney
Speaker 3: little room magic in there.
Speaker 2: Like Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 3: Overcrowded attack room. Like I wonder what her legacy would
Speaker 3: have been if she could have stayed healthy and she
Speaker 3: had not picked that era to exist in.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. It's good.
Speaker 3: She's I feel like she's gonna be underrated.
Speaker 1: Yes, So coming up, it's gonna be Linn Family sold out.
Speaker 1: That's going to be a great environment. I think I'm
Speaker 1: super excited for them, us and Argentina Wednesday to complete
Speaker 1: the complete the friendlies. What are you up to bat
Speaker 1: and lead off Friday morning?
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I'll be here at nine oh five, Well.
Speaker 1: There you go, maybe ten Yeah, okay, because you know,
Speaker 1: well and it'll be just to put a bowl on
Speaker 1: the whole thing.
Speaker 2: So absolutely yah yeah yeah. I mean that's the thing is,
Speaker 2: you have three friendlies this window, which we haven't had
Speaker 2: really before outside of you know, the She Believes Cup.
Speaker 2: So three actual friendlies means you get three opportunities to
Speaker 2: kind of test and measure and judge you know, player performances,
Speaker 2: overall team performances, and again I just want to say
Speaker 2: Iceland is good like that. That that's the thing that
Speaker 2: like the US is going to have to deal with.
Speaker 2: They've dealt with it a little bit. But going forward
Speaker 2: is a lot of the European teams are just baseline
Speaker 2: competent at soccer. Now, you know, that's weird what happens
Speaker 2: when you actually allow women to play soccer and give
Speaker 2: them a you know what funding? What I know, And
Speaker 2: that's just going to be something that they're going to
Speaker 2: deal with when playing European competition going forward, because unfortunately
Speaker 2: with CONCA CALF, while there's some improvement on that front,
Speaker 2: a lot of the CONCACAFF nations just aren't at that level.
Speaker 2: But I mean, you've got, you know, especially with Iceland,
Speaker 2: you've got several players who are on Champions League squads,
Speaker 2: you know, playing for very good teams in Europe, and
Speaker 2: two three one wins is pretty good against Iceland, you know.
Speaker 2: And again, yes it's after a bunch of subs, but
Speaker 2: subs count two. And it's not just the subs, it's
Speaker 2: the ability to continue to wear down a team. So
Speaker 2: what would this look like if you had your preferred
Speaker 2: starting eleven and everyone's healthy, you know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but the fact that you're able to bring on like
Speaker 2: in the first game you bring on Shaw, uh, and
Speaker 2: she scores, but you also started Alyssa Thompson and she scores.
Speaker 2: And in this game you go, okay, well the first
Speaker 2: half isn't great, but you make I mean that was
Speaker 2: because you you were experimenting Ryan Moultrie, like even to
Speaker 2: an extent, Shaw playing on the right, like those are experimental.
Speaker 1: You know, Uh, you're kicking the tires one stuff.
Speaker 2: You're you're taking some chances here to see that's what
Speaker 2: you're doing, right, you're fact finding. Okay, it didn't work
Speaker 2: as well as you wanted to make a few changes,
Speaker 2: and those changes are bringing on Lindsay Horan, who still
Speaker 2: very good despite what people want to say, and bringing
Speaker 2: on Lynd Williams, who yeah, I mean yeah, oh my
Speaker 2: Lucy Browns shadowed her out for Vallandor like chance and
Speaker 2: everyone blew a gasket. Now, I personally think if you're
Speaker 2: picking a US women's national team, it should be Swanson
Speaker 2: or Smith. That's just me. But like you can't deny
Speaker 2: Lindsay Horan and her quality when you watch her play
Speaker 2: for Leon, you know, anyway, The point is the depth
Speaker 2: on this team is getting better. And that's kind of
Speaker 2: what Emma Hayes is trying to do, is we I
Speaker 2: think we have twelve to thirteen really good players that
Speaker 2: we can rely on to perform when they're healthy. How
Speaker 2: do we fill in the rest of the roster? Right,
Speaker 2: if you're going to get a twenty three player roster,
Speaker 2: how does that fill out? I mean, you even got
Speaker 2: a new goalkeeper. We didn't talk about the actually and play.
Speaker 2: It doesn't really matter. But you know, the girl from
Speaker 2: Utah comes in because Jane Campbell, Mary has to go home. Right,
Speaker 2: That's that's the benefit of this camp is getting all
Speaker 2: these new players in and you just increase the pool,
Speaker 2: something we haven't seen a lot of from the US
Speaker 2: national team. Black Co tried it, but he didn't really
Speaker 2: use them, Right, That's been the problem is you brought
Speaker 2: these new players into camp, didn't really use them. You know,
Speaker 2: Savannah Mello is a perfect example of that. But now
Speaker 2: what does Emma go You know, I'm very curious what
Speaker 2: her strategy is for Wednesday. She basically said. With NWSL
Speaker 2: finishing out their regular season on Friday through Sunday of
Speaker 2: this week, she's not gonna play those players who have
Speaker 2: the Friday night games, so that does limit your selections now,
Speaker 2: but you know, for I mean, here's the other thing.
Speaker 2: I mean the terrible schedule making by the French schedule makers.
Speaker 2: But we have PSG and leone players and you can
Speaker 2: kind of say, like, now whatever, they're fine because most
Speaker 2: of the time PSG Leone aren't playing great competition.
Speaker 1: For many of my problems, well, fair.
Speaker 2: Enough, but Leon and PSG play each other Sunday. That
Speaker 2: is bad schedule making because it's great to get the excitement.
Speaker 2: But like you just had all like Leon and PSG
Speaker 2: have a number of international players, like they're tired starting
Speaker 2: elevens or international players and whether they were playing Monday,
Speaker 2: Tuesday or Wednesday, they're coming off the international break. That
Speaker 2: is not smart from those schedule makers.
Speaker 1: I'll just say that I give the schedule home makers
Speaker 1: a harrumph.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we don't love that. But anyway, I'm curious
Speaker 2: how she's gonna play this. And again, Argentina is a
Speaker 2: couple of steps down from Iceland as we have seen recently,
Speaker 2: so that that will also kind of play into lake.
Speaker 2: I mean, personally, I want Emma, I want Emily SAMs
Speaker 2: to start again, and I think if you see her
Speaker 2: and Germa, because Gurma won San Diego Wave that has
Speaker 2: been eliminated from playoff contention, thanks Landon Donovan.
Speaker 1: Well at least they don't have to play on that
Speaker 1: surface anymore.
Speaker 2: Really, Oh my good lord, John, No, grass surface is
Speaker 2: always better than everything, John, don't you know that?
Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, and then then San grass is just better, yes,
Speaker 1: and Sandy there's no flaws with grass ever, none, and
Speaker 1: sand is worse than grass, which is what the San
Speaker 1: Diego State got to play on this That wasn't ugly,
Speaker 1: It was FuG Well.
Speaker 3: That surface looked like the opening scene of City of God.
Speaker 3: You've ever seen that?
Speaker 1: That was just man, that was awful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not great. But anyway, I think I think you're
Speaker 2: looking at possibly some very heavy line of rotation on Wednesday,
Speaker 2: just because of the schedule. But I do think we
Speaker 2: might see Sam's and Germa start together, and I personally
Speaker 2: would love to see that because I think they might
Speaker 2: be a really fun center back pairing, both very strong
Speaker 2: but still very competent on the ball.
Speaker 1: Sg's are getting their emails, it's been put was posted
Speaker 1: out on social media about the upper Tank being available.
Speaker 1: It's still so upper Tank is officially available for Messy
Speaker 1: and friends when they come here on the weekend. Turning
Speaker 1: the page to reffing down here. I know that Jared
Speaker 1: Jared had a couple of moments. I know that there
Speaker 1: was one in particular, Jared. I think they had a
Speaker 1: couple of them. Okay, sorry you had in your brain, sir,
Speaker 1: for repping down here. You had a couple that probably
Speaker 1: could be here for a review.
Speaker 3: Oh well, okay, when I complained about most was actually
Speaker 3: American football, and I'm not don't waste.
Speaker 1: Sparts time on that, No, but I thought that Charlotte.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's well, there's really just one there. And Bart,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw the Pet beeal Pet
Speaker 3: Biell quote kick out.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's my problem, Jared, I didn't see other than
Speaker 2: all what's on Twitter, and what's on Twitter is not
Speaker 2: a great replay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I saw it in the moment and they
Speaker 3: played on it. So he gets tackled, he's kind of
Speaker 3: down and kind of rolling around on that. The defenders
Speaker 3: kind of like he's kind of stepping over him, but
Speaker 3: I'm not. It's one of those where like judging intent
Speaker 3: It's tricky because I don't know if he's stepping over
Speaker 3: him like AI stepping over TYLERU, or if he's stepping
Speaker 3: over him like A. If I don't make this step
Speaker 3: over him, I might step on him, and I don't
Speaker 3: want to cause.
Speaker 2: Problems, right, I couldn't quite tell.
Speaker 3: It's weird. And then yeah, Biel's leg goes out. But
Speaker 3: but like I know, Jason and I talked about it
Speaker 3: and his concern. He was, you know, is bl sticking
Speaker 3: his leg out there to keep the guy from falling
Speaker 3: on him or from stepping on him? Or is it.
Speaker 2: Almost looked like his got cat in the shoelace, to
Speaker 2: be quite honest, Yeah, that's another.
Speaker 3: Thing about it, is like that I was I saw
Speaker 3: in the moment. I thought it was a kick out
Speaker 3: in the moment because I saw his legs snap out. Yes,
Speaker 3: and I we were we were messaging about it, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, Biella just kicked out and then they
Speaker 3: kept playing. And I think the AR saw it because
Speaker 3: he I think, because the rest kind of looked to
Speaker 3: the AR then pulls out the red I was surprised
Speaker 3: they didn't go to the monitor. I know every call
Speaker 3: is checked by var I was surprised they didn't go
Speaker 3: to the monitor because I wondered, it's like sometimes y'all
Speaker 3: can just go to the monitor just to reassure people
Speaker 3: it's it's not gonna hurt anythink that game was cooked.
Speaker 3: I would have done. I could have done with another
Speaker 3: couple of looks.
Speaker 2: Man, I think, I agree, and I think just to
Speaker 2: make sure that we said all the things are true, right,
Speaker 2: it looked bad. It may not have been bad. It
Speaker 2: looked like he did this, but it also looked like
Speaker 2: he did this. I think at the end of the
Speaker 2: day when you when you see it maybe live action.
Speaker 2: That's the problem that I you know, if you watch
Speaker 2: it live and I never saw a video replay of that.
Speaker 2: That's the other issue is I only got to see
Speaker 2: because as you mentioned, it wasn't like video reviews. We
Speaker 2: didn't get to see it other than the slow motion
Speaker 2: that you're seeing on Apple TV because and that might
Speaker 2: be the problem with var there is because it's so
Speaker 2: far off the ball that they may not have great
Speaker 2: angles of it, and it's not clear cut like someone
Speaker 2: throwing in a punch type of thing, which is something
Speaker 2: that you probably get a better actual footage of. I mean,
Speaker 2: a punch is a punch is punch. I think that
Speaker 2: that that's easier to tell than you know, a kick
Speaker 2: out where you're playing in sport with your feet. I
Speaker 2: don't have an issue necessarily with it being a red
Speaker 2: card because I think when you look at it, if
Speaker 2: what the communication was between the AR and the center referee,
Speaker 2: we don't know what that is, and it very well
Speaker 2: could have been the center said, oh, yeah, he kicked them,
Speaker 2: you know, oh he kicked out at him, and he
Speaker 2: may have seen the excessive force that it wires for
Speaker 2: that red card, you know. And again we don't have
Speaker 2: the luxury of just looking at that right now, which
Speaker 2: is a problem in.
Speaker 3: Top end ninety. The Charlotte account shared an alternate look
Speaker 3: at and to Andrew Weeby shared as well over the
Speaker 3: yeah ship for mlssent like, and the more I looked
Speaker 3: at that one, the shoelace thing kind of yeah, maybe
Speaker 3: because the way, because it's funny you say that, I
Speaker 3: went back and looked at it, and as you're talking,
Speaker 3: I'm like, his foot's moving with his foot as if
Speaker 3: it's like a gruptural marks mirror.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I'm with you, Jared. I wish they
Speaker 2: would have said, hey, we're giving you a red card
Speaker 2: because we saw this, and then immediately start that video check.
Speaker 2: Is it clear and obvious? I don't know, and that's
Speaker 2: obviously the standard we have to have, but I think
Speaker 2: this is the time we're again using the tool of
Speaker 2: video assistant referee that extra eye to say, I think
Speaker 2: it's worth looking at right to let the referee on
Speaker 2: the field make the fullest The.
Speaker 3: Thing was like, the thing that got me was I
Speaker 3: felt like there wasn't much protest from Biel as he
Speaker 3: went off to that, and I kind of was like,
Speaker 3: why is there not more protest here? Yeap, just because
Speaker 3: like if if like if you had if you got
Speaker 3: I feel like if you had gotten tangled up and
Speaker 3: you were trying to untangle yourself correct, your protest would
Speaker 3: have been very demonstrated, because yeah, this game is cooked.
Speaker 3: But now Charlotte's have seen their number ten for a
Speaker 3: return leg ye against a team that kind of like
Speaker 3: rolled them down the field for most.
Speaker 2: Of that game.
Speaker 3: I don't know how much of that game you saw,
Speaker 3: but like Charlotte had a couple of moments. Otherwise, like Orlando.
Speaker 2: Was, I didn't get to watch watch but what I
Speaker 2: was watching in the car, it was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: Orlando's kind of taken it to him, and yeah.
Speaker 3: Like Charlotte almost didn't seem up for getting punch around
Speaker 3: a bit.
Speaker 2: You just hate to see it. I had this existent
Speaker 2: Jared I have, and people can shine up in the comments.
Speaker 2: I had this existential debate with myself and the others
Speaker 2: in the car coming home because obviously Atlanta United fans
Speaker 2: don't like Orlando. Yeah, but I'm kind of more annoyed
Speaker 2: with Charlotte fans thinking they're.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, well, Charlotte. When the owner for Charlotte out
Speaker 1: of the blocks says Atlanta's our arrival and he starts
Speaker 1: running smacking his opening press conference about Atlanta, and then
Speaker 1: I could understand that.
Speaker 2: I'm just at this point where I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 2: Orlando has their trophy. I don't want them to get
Speaker 2: any more. But I certainly don't want Charlotte thinking that
Speaker 2: they're better than they are because they're like, oh, we
Speaker 2: did better than at Lanting night of the season. Okay,
Speaker 2: well one, we were shipped this season two.
Speaker 3: And we still w and bet Charlotte in their building.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, It's not like y'all had a fantastic season.
Speaker 2: Congratulations on finishing what six.
Speaker 3: I part of the want a Charlotte Atlanta playoff because
Speaker 3: nobody can win a home game in this series to
Speaker 3: save their lives.
Speaker 2: That's true. Uh yeah, I don't know whatever y'all think
Speaker 2: in the comments, but I was just like.
Speaker 3: You can, you can grab a few of my church
Speaker 3: because I've been in the camp of Charlotte. Nashville annoyed
Speaker 3: me much more.
Speaker 2: Orlando feels like proper soccer fans to an extent. They
Speaker 2: need to collectively as a group because they like to
Speaker 2: fight too much.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't care about I s C And how their
Speaker 2: fans are friendlier to us. Screw them. The rest of
Speaker 2: their fans are terrible, arrogant Charlotte freaks. I don't like them.
Speaker 2: I don't like the city.
Speaker 1: He was careful. I could see another word formulating, I don't.
Speaker 2: Like the city of Charlotte. Go put on your dand
Speaker 2: fleece fest and go crunch. Some numbers find it bro like,
Speaker 2: I don't need you to talk to me about soccer.
Speaker 3: That's the thing about it is, like, remember when they
Speaker 3: were coming in the league. You still had a lot
Speaker 3: of you.
Speaker 1: Still you will.
Speaker 3: I think you will always have like the the Charlotte
Speaker 3: Atlanta rivalry as like the the smaller sister city. It's
Speaker 3: like the little brother city.
Speaker 2: It's it's Atlanta New Orleans, but Charlotte is the little
Speaker 2: the youngest brother, and you're like, who the hell are you.
Speaker 3: I'm still actively begging them to put an MLS team
Speaker 3: in New Orleans and you will see what a rivalry
Speaker 3: looks like.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's hate.
Speaker 3: Hate all the MLS mothership people up in New York.
Speaker 3: Put a team in New Orleans. They I'll show you
Speaker 3: what a rivalry is.
Speaker 2: Well, rivalries don't exist outside of the northeast, Jarrett, So that's.
Speaker 3: Problem in the Callie Glasgow.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, anyway, that was the And then like also
Speaker 2: being in Nashville kind of field and I hate of
Speaker 2: like who the hell are yo? Are you all trying
Speaker 2: to talk smack at us? Like Nashville fans love to
Speaker 2: pretend like they're they're like, oh, we have this great
Speaker 2: say all these things. Look both of y'all are just
Speaker 2: in the cities that have an I P A and
Speaker 2: named after them. That that's all you are Wow.
Speaker 3: I feel like Nashville's coming back down to earth a bit.
Speaker 3: And I think this year kind of.
Speaker 2: Like they learned that just playing defense and hoping that
Speaker 2: Honey Muktar is good isn't the way to.
Speaker 1: Defense, and send Hannivert basically that's it.
Speaker 3: They also just signed They also just signed hired coach though,
Speaker 3: who has like a little Philadelphia and so like Nashville
Speaker 3: might get some of that dark magic too, and which
Speaker 3: will only fuel this rivalry becausej was in the film
Speaker 3: at one point and if he starts bringing some of
Speaker 3: that like Jim Curtin, like he old ship House. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and everything's all kick off.
Speaker 1: To Andy's uh Andy's question wondering about Tom Bogert. Since
Speaker 1: we're discussing Charlotte, it appears that Phoenix Rising are gonna
Speaker 1: name Charlotte assistant manager palmadou Ka is their next head coach.
Speaker 1: Co's gonna remain with Charlotte for the playoff run. Phoenix
Speaker 1: is in the playoffs, and so it looks like uh
Speaker 1: palmadu Ka is going to be the new head coach
Speaker 1: for the Phoenix Rising at the corner of thirty eighth
Speaker 1: in Washington.
Speaker 2: So good for him.
Speaker 1: Yep, good good, good pick up for them. I will
Speaker 1: looking for looking for his first looking for his first
Speaker 1: head coaching giggle. See how it is in the USA
Speaker 1: USL Championships are there? Uh? Okay? Uh? What other? I
Speaker 1: know that there's one I know that we need to
Speaker 1: get into when it comes to var And it is
Speaker 1: going to be the delict challenge on Danny Ings, where
Speaker 1: everyone associated with Manchester United was waving their hands frantically
Speaker 1: in the air like they did care after the fact. Uh.
Speaker 1: It ended up by the end of it all costing
Speaker 1: Eric tin Hog his gig and so yes. So it
Speaker 1: ends up as a penalty scored by Jared Bowen. It
Speaker 1: was contact with Matista leaked and Danny Ings. Eighty seventh minute.
Speaker 1: You're tied at one. It's out there for folks to
Speaker 1: stare at. What did you think?
Speaker 2: Well, one, I love a good al Sakkaco, so you
Speaker 2: know that was what this It feels like love. Peggy
Speaker 2: kept his job in ten Hog lost it because of us.
Speaker 2: So congratulations to the referees for deciding the future of
Speaker 2: two very rich men. Yeah. I thought this was a foul,
Speaker 2: I'll be honest. But the problem is everyone thinks that
Speaker 2: you know when you're in the penalty area that you
Speaker 2: need to have like committed murder for it to be
Speaker 2: a penalty kick. And commit a foul in the penalty area.
Speaker 2: It's a penalty kick. That is the law of the game.
Speaker 2: And I thought it was a foul for tripping and
Speaker 2: that's just what it is.
Speaker 1: Sorry, no, And so by the time they look at
Speaker 1: it and Dale Johnson and this is Dale is one
Speaker 1: of our reference points for this segment every week, and
Speaker 1: uh Dale goes through the whole gamut of the deal
Speaker 1: and he says the Premier League has been determined to
Speaker 1: get the term referees call quotes into the lexicon this
Speaker 1: season and this would be a perfect example. If Russell
Speaker 1: Coote gave the penalty, you could see a reason, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't reach the clear and obvious threshold in English
Speaker 1: football to send the referee to the monitor. Bowen's penalty
Speaker 1: led to the two undefeat. PGMOL has been talking up
Speaker 1: how much faster var reviews have gotten the season, down
Speaker 1: from an average of seventy seconds per game to twenty
Speaker 1: five seconds. But this took two and a half minutes
Speaker 1: from the foul to coot pointing to the penalty spot
Speaker 1: and another two and a half minutes until Bowen struck
Speaker 1: the ball. And so a secondary question about the use
Speaker 1: of the monitor, why is it there if we always
Speaker 1: see the referee change his decision. The answer is simple,
Speaker 1: Johnson right through the otters, though the waters are muddled
Speaker 1: by a mud By protocol. The screen is supposed to
Speaker 1: be a safety net on subjective decisions, to give the
Speaker 1: referee the chance to spot an air by VAR. That's
Speaker 1: the idea, but it doesn't really work. This is Johnson
Speaker 1: of op adding here. Last season there were five incorrect
Speaker 1: VAR interventions where the ref went to the screen still
Speaker 1: changed his decision. Refs go to the monitor knowing they're
Speaker 1: being told that they have made a clear and obvious error,
Speaker 1: not just to have a second look. Limitations of this
Speaker 1: var process condition referees to think they've screwed up, so
Speaker 1: the failsafe is in itself flawed. We'd all like referees
Speaker 1: to have more conviction and stick by their own call
Speaker 1: a few times, but it seldom happens. Two referees rejected
Speaker 1: an overturned last season, yet only one was deemed correct,
Speaker 1: Michael Oliver turning down a review to rule out an
Speaker 1: arsenal goal against Everton, so Johnson said this was an
Speaker 1: incorrect var intervention. Oliver had won recorded error as VR
Speaker 1: last season when he did an award the penalty in
Speaker 1: the Brentford Forest, and so this will go down as
Speaker 1: a mistake with David kot what about that?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I understand what his reasoning is.
Speaker 2: Right in the moment, you're looking at what the referee call.
Speaker 2: Was it a clear and obvious error? Now again, I
Speaker 2: still think it was a foul for tripping in the box.
Speaker 2: But was it clear and obvious? I think that's the
Speaker 2: debatable term, right, And just because I personally may have
Speaker 2: called it doesn't mean it's clear and obvious. I mean,
Speaker 2: I have this anytime I'm an AR, right, I center
Speaker 2: a lot, and this is you know, this happens a
Speaker 2: lot of the youth level, where we're all taking all
Speaker 2: the responsibilities. You get the pro level, you have center referees,
Speaker 2: you have ars. But for me, you know, I'll go
Speaker 2: from refereeing center being the center for two games to
Speaker 2: an AR for two games. And I have to remember
Speaker 2: that if I'm looking for fouls, my standard isn't the
Speaker 2: same as their standard. The guy in the middle, and
Speaker 2: so that is something that I think when with this
Speaker 2: situation specifically, is did the var use a different standard
Speaker 2: for judging? Was it clear and obvious error? And again,
Speaker 2: I think it was a foul. That's my part, That's
Speaker 2: how I interpreted the situation. But I also agree with
Speaker 2: the line of saying, oh, hey, I think you made
Speaker 2: a mistake right, puts it in their head mirror. And
Speaker 2: I do think that, like kind of going back to
Speaker 2: the red card we talked about earlier, is hey, let's
Speaker 2: make sure we got this right is a better way
Speaker 2: to frame it than got this wrong. And I think
Speaker 2: that's kind of a better way to kind of flip
Speaker 2: that narrative in our heads when we're referring as like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's make sure we get it right, because again, with
Speaker 2: the red card, we're validating. It's almost like validating the call,
Speaker 2: which I think is the difference between how do I
Speaker 2: say this, let's go to foot American football where you
Speaker 2: have a coach's challenge versus an under two minute review
Speaker 2: or a scoring play review. Right, we check scoring plays
Speaker 2: in American football because we want to make sure we
Speaker 2: get the call correct, right. That is a monumental thing
Speaker 2: in this game. We want to make sure that we
Speaker 2: got the scoring play correct. That's not to say we're
Speaker 2: you know, scrutinizing the referees on the field. We're saying,
Speaker 2: let's make sure that the ball crossed the goal line.
Speaker 2: Let's make sure he got two feed or one foot
Speaker 2: in bounce. Let's make sure all these criteria were met. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're good, right, And that is a review process that
Speaker 2: involves studio and everything, and sometimes it does we say, hey,
Speaker 2: I think you need to check this again. Tell me,
Speaker 2: you know, let's make sure you think that he got
Speaker 2: the two feet in or whatever it is right. That
Speaker 2: is different than a coach saying you got this wrong
Speaker 2: right now. Obviously, I think as a referee, if a
Speaker 2: coach says, ah, I'm challenging this, you got it wrong,
Speaker 2: I'm going to be more like, no, I don't see.
Speaker 1: But that that is someone from the outside of the discussion.
Speaker 1: That it's not a peer identifier, right, And I think.
Speaker 2: That's the problem is when a peer says, hey, I
Speaker 2: think you got it wrong, You're going to look at
Speaker 2: that with a well maybe I did type of thing.
Speaker 2: And that's not a good or bad thing. It's just
Speaker 2: a matter of phrasing it a little bit better, like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's make sure we got it right versus I think
Speaker 2: you got it wrong. And again, it's because we want
Speaker 2: to make sure we get the right call more often
Speaker 2: than not. That's the goal here. We want to be
Speaker 2: as consistent and correct as possible.
Speaker 1: All Right, what else is going on in the world
Speaker 1: of soccer for US POD other than you visiting us
Speaker 1: on Friday morning? Bet and lead off to talk about this,
Speaker 1: going to try to record Oh yes.
Speaker 2: Tonight or tomorrow. It will be not specific to anything
Speaker 2: going on right now. Necessarily we might talk about the
Speaker 2: MLS schedule change. That is probably Yeah, I mean, that's
Speaker 2: a great point. Let's take another look at that. Again,
Speaker 2: it's about making sure we get it right, not making
Speaker 2: sure that we correct necessarily you know you're wrong. Episode
Speaker 2: one hundred are probably going to look at bigger picture
Speaker 2: discussion points within US soccer. Again. One of those might
Speaker 2: be a timely thing of the MLS proposed schedule change, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, I think again is vastly overblown. Yes,
Speaker 2: it gets cold in Minnesota, it also gets really damn
Speaker 2: hot in Houston, Texas, and no one complains about that.
Speaker 3: Whatever you can do it on a cold, rainy night
Speaker 3: in Minnesota. The same thame question I asked from Miami.
Speaker 2: Came in, Yeah, can you do it on one hundred
Speaker 2: and ten degree day in Kansas City? You know, no
Speaker 2: one cares about that. They answered that question can you do.
Speaker 3: It at a foty like who some old English center
Speaker 3: back whom he was Brian shack Cross did Miami sign
Speaker 3: year one?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: And he's like he did it on a cold rainy night.
Speaker 3: And still from the end I was like, yeah, now
Speaker 3: he's got to play four pm in Miami.
Speaker 2: A yeah, yeah, which, by the way, is a solution
Speaker 2: if you think it's going to be too cold in Minnesota,
Speaker 2: Toronto or Montreal play at four pm, play at three pm,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden.
Speaker 3: Well to your point, they are you do this if
Speaker 3: you go go look at the schedule, Go look at
Speaker 3: like Montreal schedule. They always start all around because you
Speaker 3: can't play in March in Montreal.
Speaker 1: Correct, and yeah, and the umbrella and the umbrella at
Speaker 1: the Big O is broken, so you can't question.
Speaker 2: Question question is it broken or did it ever work?
Speaker 1: Well? It it's well it never a it never worked.
Speaker 1: But right, but when if you looked at Mike's photograph
Speaker 1: as they were flying into montrealf for the card game.
Speaker 1: The fabric is gone. So the fabric is gone from
Speaker 1: the umbrella at the Big O. So I was like, well,
Speaker 1: why why can't they? And then I look at Mike's
Speaker 1: photograph and you see the fabric has disappeared, and you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: now I know why. So yeah, it ain't even fit
Speaker 1: for it ain't even fit for doing something in the
Speaker 1: you know, short center field. Now, uh so let us
Speaker 1: know of the hundred because we have to do the
Speaker 1: appropriate huzzahs and trumpets and celebrations and things like.
Speaker 2: I'm looking through Mike's uh oh good, he's got.
Speaker 1: Over.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it is I didn't see that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is my this is my stop, John. But
Speaker 3: I do want to tell you as we're as we're
Speaker 3: leaving that Ted Ruff has been fired and yeah that's.
Speaker 1: Pot okay, all right, So we'll see you, all right,
Speaker 1: We'll see Jared tomorrow, and we'll see Bart tomorrow, Bart
Speaker 1: once again at soccer for us PO D. Huzzahs, hurrahs
Speaker 1: and trumpets for getting episode.
Speaker 2: Take it like three years, but we got there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all right, it's all good, all right, So
Speaker 1: we'll see you on Friday, my friend. Thanks for dropping
Speaker 1: by as always, for roughing down here and for letting
Speaker 1: us know what's going on your mind when it comes
Speaker 1: to the national teams. Be safe and go get more caffeine.
Speaker 2: I might need a nap at lunch.
Speaker 1: Well then then then get Oh what's the mug by
Speaker 1: the way?
Speaker 2: Well, we're on brand today. WU. So we got the
Speaker 2: w read college and media right here here it is
Speaker 2: here Cuz I'll cheer on the Mountaineers when they win.
Speaker 2: Congrat you got us a win. So you're still gone
Speaker 2: at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. A winner tie exactly,
Speaker 1: all right, we'll have.
Speaker 2: You coach lending attitudes.
Speaker 1: We need a new coach there, right, I haven't heard anything.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought thought that maybe that was another coach
Speaker 2: in the system.
Speaker 1: I haven't know all. I mean, we do have a
Speaker 1: we have a new director of methodology.
Speaker 2: That's what it is. Thank you.
Speaker 1: We have a new director of methodology. And if you haven't,
Speaker 1: you haven't seen or heard that interview with how your
Speaker 1: pet is, I would recommend it. We need a new
Speaker 1: coach for a good, good twenty minutes there as well,
Speaker 1: So good stuff'll see.
Speaker 2: You'll be happy Halloween week. Enjoy your circuit treats. Remember
Speaker 2: that you do need to screen your children's candy to
Speaker 2: make sure that they don't get all the good stuff.
Speaker 1: Yes, like the Reese's pieces. They go to me and
Speaker 1: there goes Bart. All right, so here's our here's the stuff.
Speaker 1: What's going on for the rest of the deal.