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<v Speaker 1>And bart. We always go to our man Roy Kent

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<v Speaker 1>when we need some bringing everything back to center. When

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to stupidity down here?

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<v Speaker 2>What was the stupidity down here moment?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, the stupidity down here moment was racist stupidity from

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<v Speaker 1>El Classico.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, racism in Spain.

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<v Speaker 1>Not shocked, yes, no, not shocked. So you are how

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<v Speaker 1>caffeine infused, are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 2>Not enough? Because I'm still very tired at a moment

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<v Speaker 2>like one o'clock last night.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so break down this weekend of yours and

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<v Speaker 1>why why you are heavily fueled in g your caffeine here?

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<v Speaker 2>So Saturday, I refereed four games, which is a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more than I normally do. Yeah uh, And then

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<v Speaker 2>had a Halloween party Saturday. Woke up early on Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>morning to drive to Nashville to Yes women's national team

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<v Speaker 2>drummed all ninety minutes, got in a car, drove back

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<v Speaker 2>to Atlanta. Well, I wrote, and I drive thankfully, but ye,

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<v Speaker 2>back to Atlanta after the game. And obviously that time

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<v Speaker 2>change is you know, it's not immense, but it definitely

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<v Speaker 2>is a little different when you go from central to

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<v Speaker 2>Eastern And yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, it is, and this is and this is

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<v Speaker 1>what I try to tell folks when I end up

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<v Speaker 1>when the bosson, I go and visit her family over

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<v Speaker 1>in God's time zone. Just ask her. And we're right there.

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<v Speaker 1>We're probably maybe a half hour on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of the Alabama Georgia border. You feel it, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you just drift over that. You just drift over

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<v Speaker 1>the time zone line. You feel it. You're still thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that you're on Eastern time and you get the wall

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<v Speaker 1>smashed right in front of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't change my watch when I go because

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<v Speaker 2>it's not worth it. But it also is a reminder

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<v Speaker 2>that like, oh wait it is. My body is like

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<v Speaker 2>thinking it's later than it.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, uh huh exactly. So I do have some things

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<v Speaker 1>that I did want to discuss with you this morning

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<v Speaker 1>in your increasingly caffeinated, fueled up individual. Let's start with

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<v Speaker 1>what happened in Nashville, and we'll go through the numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll go through the rage that traditionally is attached

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<v Speaker 1>to it by our friends at Soccer America. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was a chance for you to drum for full ninety minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, let me ask how packed was g otis

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<v Speaker 1>by the way as he thinks about.

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<v Speaker 2>It, it was more than half full. Okay, the official

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<v Speaker 2>attendance was seventeen thousand, which, as you know, John, that

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<v Speaker 2>is a thirty thousand seat stadium. Yes, it was not full, Abbey.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the lower bawl was pretty filled in the

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<v Speaker 2>upper level was not. But you know, again, this is

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<v Speaker 2>the criticism of US soccer, where they like to play

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<v Speaker 2>at venues they feel comfortable in. But problem there is

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<v Speaker 2>you're tapping into a market one too many times and

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<v Speaker 2>the novelty and specialty of the national team come into town.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think I know the men have played

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<v Speaker 2>in Austin five times, you know, since it opened. Giodis

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<v Speaker 2>I think is hosted the women four times on top

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<v Speaker 2>of the men's game. You know, Austin has hosted two

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<v Speaker 2>games for either team this month. So look glad they're

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<v Speaker 2>playing in Louisville on Wednesday. That will probably be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to be a full house. Last

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<v Speaker 2>I sold sell like seven hundred tickets. But tickets to

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<v Speaker 2>the game, John started at forty dollars normal price. Now

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<v Speaker 2>they did a right now, they did a promotion for

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<v Speaker 2>like a week for the Kelly O'Hara special, which was

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen dollar tickets in the upper two hundred levels. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>clearly the up the two hundreds just should have been

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen dollars tickets for any seat in the two hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>because if they just weren't full, And when you're charging

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<v Speaker 2>people forty dollars for a friendly against Iceland, Yes, he's

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<v Speaker 2>not a bad team by any stretch, that's not. It's just,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's not a name that resonates with people,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're gonna struggle to fill the house. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think US Soccer is learning this fall that they

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<v Speaker 2>are vastly overpricing their I hope they're learning. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>they're learning they're vastly overpricing their product. I will say,

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<v Speaker 2>the tickets to the Nations League game in Saint Louis

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<v Speaker 2>in November, I think they started at forty dollars, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think is a fair price for an actual competitive match.

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<v Speaker 2>But we'll see how full Saint Louis.

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<v Speaker 1>Is mm hmm. And speaking of full, according to Doug

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<v Speaker 1>Robertson of the AJAC Mercedes been opened the full capacity

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<v Speaker 1>for the playoff match against.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, I'm sure that is going to be full. Of

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<v Speaker 2>Atlantic undded fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so let me circle back. So you're saying that

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<v Speaker 1>no offense to the goal scorer, but Carolina Vshalms de

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<v Speaker 1>tear did not fill g otis no.

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<v Speaker 2>I also, I don't think she scored. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>should be credited to Casey Murphy on goal because she

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<v Speaker 2>dropped the ball literally and caused that goal to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, all right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah. So USA ends up winning three to one.

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<v Speaker 1>Vashalm's the Teer scores in the thirty first to make

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<v Speaker 1>it one nial and I'm wondering. I'm wondering, and I

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<v Speaker 1>might have had this conversation with myself, and I said self,

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<v Speaker 1>what is Emma Hayes having a discussion about with her

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<v Speaker 1>club right now being down one nil at the break

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<v Speaker 1>on a on a Casey Murphy og credited to Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>Vishalm's the teer.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when you looked at the starting lineup, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was fair that you could tell that this was

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<v Speaker 2>not Emma trying to play her best eleven. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, you know, I think if Emma were

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<v Speaker 2>to take a concern from the first half, it was

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<v Speaker 2>we were settling for easy passes or we weren't settling for,

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<v Speaker 2>we weren't trying to find better passes. We were trying

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<v Speaker 2>to settle for just get the ball off my foot

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<v Speaker 2>and try to put it into the box instead of

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<v Speaker 2>trying to create opportunities. You know, there were still chances

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<v Speaker 2>created that way, as you know, you're likely going to

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<v Speaker 2>create a lot of chances when the likes of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Mouse Swanson are on the field. But I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was just a little I don't want to say lazy,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was just a little too unsophisticated. Would probably

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<v Speaker 2>be the word that she would be concerned with. Is

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<v Speaker 2>it just wasn't trying to take the next step in

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<v Speaker 2>what that progression should be. And so there are a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of like you know, clipped balls, floated balls to

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<v Speaker 2>the attackers in the penalty area, which John, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you noticed, but probably not the best idea

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<v Speaker 2>against Iceland to put a.

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<v Speaker 1>Ball in the hocks.

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<v Speaker 2>The goalkeeper is taller than Casey Murphy and they had

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of great, you know, tall defenders. That's just

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<v Speaker 2>not a winning recipe. But at the same time you

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<v Speaker 2>have to say, well, we're trying out, you know, all

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<v Speaker 2>these different players girls who are getting their first caps,

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<v Speaker 2>girls who are not fully you know, integrated into the

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<v Speaker 2>national team right now, and that in itself is a positive.

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<v Speaker 2>But you saw it halftime, she made changes three goals,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I think that says a lot about

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<v Speaker 2>her mindset of she wants to win these games, but

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<v Speaker 2>she also understands the value of getting new players, fresh

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<v Speaker 2>blood into the lineup. I mean, Emily Sam's who up

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<v Speaker 2>until now had more gold medals than she did caps

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<v Speaker 2>for the US national team, gets her first cap and

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<v Speaker 2>a start right She's never played for the team before,

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<v Speaker 2>but she starts alongside Emily's Sonnet in the back line.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought she was very good. But that's just an

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<v Speaker 2>example of you know, there were some new faces in

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<v Speaker 2>the starting eleven, and you could tell that some of

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<v Speaker 2>them hadn't quite understood what it means to play at

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<v Speaker 2>the international level, which you don't get until you play

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<v Speaker 2>literally play at the international level.

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<v Speaker 1>So the whole playing at the international level helps with

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<v Speaker 1>the experience they would get playing at.

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<v Speaker 2>The international Yeah, you know, you got to have ten

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<v Speaker 2>years experience before you get ten years experienced, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know it is, you know, the case, you

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<v Speaker 2>can play really well, at the WSL level, play really

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<v Speaker 2>well with your club team, get that call in and

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<v Speaker 2>earn that call up, right, But even in training and

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<v Speaker 2>the US national team, you know, they are very intense,

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<v Speaker 2>they keep a high standard. But once you go out

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<v Speaker 2>on that field where there's another collection of really darn

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<v Speaker 2>good international caliber players trying to prevent you from doing

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<v Speaker 2>all the things you want to do, like Iceland did

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<v Speaker 2>very well, that's where that quality has to click on

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<v Speaker 2>and you go, Okay, well, how do I make my

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<v Speaker 2>better decisions, how do I find better passes, and how

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<v Speaker 2>do I help my team, you know, get in better

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<v Speaker 2>positions to score. And I think that was the struggle

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<v Speaker 2>of the first half. You brought on some new some

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<v Speaker 2>old blood if you will, Sorry sorry Lynn Williams, but

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<v Speaker 2>you brought on some old heads, you know, who kind

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<v Speaker 2>of have that composure of that experience, that quality for

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<v Speaker 2>an international level. Mixed it with some of the younger

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<v Speaker 2>players in a series being one of them, Alyssa Thompson

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<v Speaker 2>being another who glad to see her backs producing for

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<v Speaker 2>the national team, and that helped score three goals. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's what it does. It also is just a

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<v Speaker 2>case of the US still being, you know, a physically

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<v Speaker 2>dominant team, even against a team that's pretty physically dominant themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>So you end up with two goals with the with

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<v Speaker 1>the old Blood coming in, two goals in four minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>Lyn Williams, Lindsay Horan seventy two and seventy six, and

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<v Speaker 1>you end up with Emma Sears getting that goal at

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<v Speaker 1>ninety plus three. And by the time you're done, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that we have to look at this.

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<v Speaker 1>To Abby's point, in to your point here. We can

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<v Speaker 1>look at numbers all day long, specifically stats. We'll go

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<v Speaker 1>through the you know who played, what the numbers are.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, Emma Hayes is

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<v Speaker 1>looking for other things. And yeah, you might have been

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<v Speaker 1>dominant across the board, but it's a dominant butt because

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<v Speaker 1>shots were seventeen to four, shots on target five to three,

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<v Speaker 1>three of those end up in the back of the net,

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<v Speaker 1>two saves each side, six corners to one, twenty two fouls,

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen of them to Iceland. Five times you were off

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<v Speaker 1>side and you have possession two thirds of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>That to me is no real surprise considering that Iceland

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<v Speaker 1>likes to go to the Laredo garage and hang out

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<v Speaker 1>with Marta buses most of the time when they want

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<v Speaker 1>to do things. Oh good, An, absolutely, so, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's where that's that's where we are here, and Jared's

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<v Speaker 1>dropping by as we're discussing women's national team and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, Jarrett?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh not much? Yeah, Look, damn women's I clicked over

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<v Speaker 3>at like halftime. I was like, Oh, that's not the

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<v Speaker 3>score line I expected. And then I was cooked over

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<v Speaker 3>at the ninetieth minute, went that's the score line expected.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It felt a little Nick Saban's Alabama where the

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<v Speaker 2>team is like, oh, we got this, We're hanging in

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<v Speaker 2>and this is good, and then you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the game, you go, why do I have

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<v Speaker 2>a black eye? You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Also, how did they run? How did they run the

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<v Speaker 3>ball for six hundred yards?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>It is soccer. They're not allowed to run the ball like.

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<v Speaker 2>That, And it felt that way. It felt that way, jar.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I planned the flag for Jenn and I swanger

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<v Speaker 3>at all moments. I she is an absolute.

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<v Speaker 2>Joy to watch, so absolutely, But there are good performances,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, individually, again, I'll shout out I thought Emily

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<v Speaker 2>really a factor for the twenty twenty seven cycle. But

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<v Speaker 2>let me rephrase, maybe shouldn't be a factor. We need

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out if we can find other center backs

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<v Speaker 2>better than Sonnet because she's on the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>thirty unfortunately for her, and so Sam's putting out a

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<v Speaker 2>great kind of film clip, you know of Hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>can I can be Germa's partner. Tianna Davidson unfortunately has

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<v Speaker 2>the Roosevelt case of made of glass and can't rely

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<v Speaker 2>on her to stay healthy. So if you can get

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<v Speaker 2>been confusing me all week. If you can get Emily Sam's,

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<v Speaker 2>who has, by the way, playing on the best team

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<v Speaker 2>in NWSL, the best defense in NWSL, if you can

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<v Speaker 2>get her integrated into this team through this fall, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that as a positive going forward to the actual next

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<v Speaker 3>Because I'm glad you mentioned that, because it's something that

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like we haven't. I know, we've talked about

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<v Speaker 3>it on here, but like as a as like a

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<v Speaker 3>gelatinous collectivist fans in this country like we so often

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<v Speaker 3>we enjoy these players and we don't. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>we often don't think enough about okay, but what's coming next?

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<v Speaker 3>Because so and so is after post thirty years old

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<v Speaker 3>and not trying to push them out the door. But

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<v Speaker 3>I need to have somebody else there because father time

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<v Speaker 3>is still unheated, and I want to make sure that yes,

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<v Speaker 3>so and so is doing great. Okay, great, they're thirty

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<v Speaker 3>one years old, right, we need to start getting minutes

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<v Speaker 3>to younger players so we did not do not end

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<v Speaker 3>up in another situation where we roll into a World

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<v Speaker 3>Cup saying if everyone stays healthy, this could be a

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I thought we saw that Jared with a

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<v Speaker 2>series on the other on the attacking end, who kind

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<v Speaker 2>of looks like a younger Lynn Williams, fast strong, gets

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<v Speaker 2>the great at getting the ball to the in line

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<v Speaker 2>or getting her cross in. Probably needs to work on

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<v Speaker 2>actually a little bit more of the finesse of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>But she gets a goal and assist. That's good for her.

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<v Speaker 2>Lynn Williams also with a goal in an assist, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that, to your point, is like Lynn is great,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's on the wrong side of thirty as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reality is you do have to find, if

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<v Speaker 2>not replacements, the backups, and that's kind of the fact

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<v Speaker 2>finding mission I think for this window is how do

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<v Speaker 2>we fill in some of the backup roles on this team,

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<v Speaker 2>specifically on the wing. I'll again shout out Alyssa Thompson.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have Alyssa Thompson backing up mal Pugh on

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<v Speaker 2>the left or excuse me, Male Swanson on the left wing,

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<v Speaker 2>that's pretty darn good.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can find Emma sears as you're back up

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<v Speaker 2>now to Trinity Rodman on the right side, that's pretty

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<v Speaker 2>darn good. So that that has been the positive of

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<v Speaker 2>this particular windows so far. The results are whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the results are whatever. So our Soccer America sky

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<v Speaker 1>is falling. Weekly friendly numbers. Casey Krueger Emily Sonnet got

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<v Speaker 1>six as Emily Sam's gets an eight and her debugen

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<v Speaker 1>and Eiswanger gets a five.

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<v Speaker 2>Mid probably because she only played forty five minutes. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just say that.

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<v Speaker 1>The midfield got four. Sam Coffee, Corbin Albert Olivia Moultrie.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a tough midfield, mainly because you know Moultrie's

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<v Speaker 2>oh is she nineteen yet? Yeah, she's nineteen. She turned

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen two days before I had a birthday. Wow, so

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<v Speaker 2>coffee Albert fine. Moultrie added into that doesn't give you

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<v Speaker 2>what you need as a dynamic midfield just because she

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<v Speaker 2>isn't there yet. But again, she's nineteen, she's playing professionally.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is her eight season playing professionally. It

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<v Speaker 2>feels like I'm joking, but she was the one at

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen who is like, hey, I want to play professionally.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, Carolina st had a fourteen year old player, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That was actually cool to see, So that that's more

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<v Speaker 2>of a like, yeah, she had a rough game, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm not a huge fan of his, but

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<v Speaker 2>how many rough games have we seen from Jay Fortune?

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<v Speaker 2>And he's finally becoming someone who at least not terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's kind of what you want to see from

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<v Speaker 2>Moultrie is how do we get her to get continually

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<v Speaker 2>better every time she steps out of the field. This

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<v Speaker 2>was not a great game from her, but I understand why.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, you've got Iceland as a competent team,

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<v Speaker 2>like very competent. They're good, they have some very good individuals.

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<v Speaker 2>That midfield was tough, and she didn't have a personally

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<v Speaker 2>great game. Hopefully she learned. Hopefully Emma can take that

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<v Speaker 2>film and say, hey, this is where we need you

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<v Speaker 2>to get better. Jerry, you want to talk about Jay Fortune.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, no, no, no, it's not that. It's it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's that I love this conversation, not for Jay Fortune,

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<v Speaker 3>because we had this conversation about George k Amble when

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<v Speaker 3>he was here. Because George Campbell was just so nice

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<v Speaker 3>and once and he would have those games where people

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<v Speaker 3>were like, this guy is gonna be starting for this

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<v Speaker 3>team next year, And then he would have games where

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<v Speaker 3>I mentions would get lit up, like why is this

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<v Speaker 3>person playing this sport professionally? To doing fine in Montreal.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a good kid, he's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>And luckily he's getting some extra rest of this offseason.

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<v Speaker 3>He is. You know what, Brad made sure. Look, Brad's

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<v Speaker 3>a good leader, Brad and made sure that boy got

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<v Speaker 3>some good rest. Like he said, you know, a kid,

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<v Speaker 3>you got a long future ahead. I'm gonna make sure

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<v Speaker 3>you get some extra rest, get some time to review

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<v Speaker 3>some film. I got you covered. Don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just a good leader.

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<v Speaker 1>Brad isam.

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<v Speaker 3>But every time we talk about this like this, I

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<v Speaker 3>always think back to the concept of pitching to cross

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<v Speaker 3>our metaphors and baseball where they forget who I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was one of the bravest three Aces mentioned that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you only had your ace stuff only so often.

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<v Speaker 3>What makes you really good is when you can when

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<v Speaker 3>you can make it work when.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not your day.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm glad you mentioned that about Multie. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't a great game for her, but it's so

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<v Speaker 3>important for these young players, I think, to learn when

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have it, when you're not on your game,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to make it work. And if that means

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<v Speaker 3>you're occupying space, bringing people who are on their day

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<v Speaker 3>into the game and trying to make everyone around you

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<v Speaker 3>better than that's what you got to do. And you

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<v Speaker 3>just got to make it work. And it's something that

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if we talk about enough on a

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<v Speaker 3>broad spectrum.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, again, I thought the midfield was rough the first half.

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<v Speaker 2>You may changes you had a much better midfield performance

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<v Speaker 2>in the second half and you score three goals. Weird

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<v Speaker 2>how that works.

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<v Speaker 1>Strange how that plays forwards up top male. Swanson got

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<v Speaker 1>a six, Jade and Shaw got a six. I got four,

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<v Speaker 1>yas me and Ryan. Her second cap got a six

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Shaw, not a great game from her. I do

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<v Speaker 2>think that Swansen and Shaw, I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 2>were deployed in the best way. They seem to be

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<v Speaker 2>switching a lot painly. I don't know if that's Emma

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<v Speaker 2>or Mal being mal, But you know, I think maybe

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<v Speaker 2>for Jaden, she still needs to figure out what her

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<v Speaker 2>best I mean, she's also young. Forget that, she's you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, twenty, and she's still figuring out her best

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<v Speaker 2>not just position, but her best moves and centers of

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<v Speaker 2>gravity and you know what is she what is her

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<v Speaker 2>best spot to make something happen on the field, And

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<v Speaker 2>so when you're trying to figure that out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at a different place than you are at your club position. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she did fine the first game. Second game, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that was great. But I think Jaden's one that you

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<v Speaker 2>have to look at and go, Okay, she's going to

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<v Speaker 2>fit into this team some The problem is is she

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the Well. She can play attacking med well,

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<v Speaker 2>she can play left wing well, she can play striker well,

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<v Speaker 2>she can play right wing and then you go, but

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<v Speaker 2>how do we get her in her best position? And

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<v Speaker 2>I think Emma's trying to struggle to figure that out

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<v Speaker 2>because John, there's a lot of other good players on

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<v Speaker 2>this team, and she may not be better than the starters,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when fully healthy, but she's like slightly behind

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<v Speaker 2>them in all of them. So it's just a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of how do we get her in her best position,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes it's just not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Goal scorers each got eights according to our friends at

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<v Speaker 1>Soccer America, Alyssa Thompson ends up with a six, Emily

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<v Speaker 1>Fox got a five, Sophia Smith got a five. Sam's

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<v Speaker 1>becomes the first player to start on her WNT debut

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<v Speaker 1>in two years. Sam coffee against Nigeria was the last

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<v Speaker 1>in September of twenty twenty two, first player to record

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<v Speaker 1>a goal and an assist in her debut since who

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<v Speaker 1>Kristen Press. There you go two goals in an assist

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<v Speaker 1>February ninth, twenty thirteen against Scotland.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, John, I have to say, yeah, Alyssa

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<v Speaker 2>Thompson has been going to the Kristin Press school of

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<v Speaker 2>playing a left wing because what she's doing is like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's Kristin Press, but shorter. She's a tiny little one,

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<v Speaker 2>but like you watch your play like, oh she like

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<v Speaker 2>the goal she scored in the first game, it was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a Kristin Press goal, and that's like that. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think Kristin Press has you know, I'm glad she's

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<v Speaker 2>back playing for her personal health and mental health. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much longer she has to play.

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<v Speaker 2>But if she can just be the Oh, who's the

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<v Speaker 2>dude who's specialty is literally just defensive ends. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember his name in the NFL, like in college, he's

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<v Speaker 2>not a coach. He just get brings people in for

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<v Speaker 2>his own like training camps in the summer. Smith, yes, question, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like if Kristin Press can just be the like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking all the left wing and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>learn how to do all these five things that make

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that.

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<v Speaker 3>I I will always wonder what might have been with

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<v Speaker 3>Kristin Press because if, like if if it had been

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<v Speaker 3>a different era and she had stayed healthy and you

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<v Speaker 3>of Abby Wamback's run yep, like sprinkle in some Sidney

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<v Speaker 3>little room magic in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Yeah, it's just.

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<v Speaker 3>Overcrowded attack room. Like I wonder what her legacy would

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<v Speaker 3>have been if she could have stayed healthy and she

422
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<v Speaker 3>had not picked that era to exist in.

423
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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. It's good.

424
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<v Speaker 3>She's I feel like she's gonna be underrated.

425
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So coming up, it's gonna be Linn Family sold out.

426
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<v Speaker 1>That's going to be a great environment. I think I'm

427
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<v Speaker 1>super excited for them, us and Argentina Wednesday to complete

428
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<v Speaker 1>the complete the friendlies. What are you up to bat

429
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<v Speaker 1>and lead off Friday morning?

430
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess I'll be here at nine oh five, Well.

431
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<v Speaker 1>There you go, maybe ten Yeah, okay, because you know,

432
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<v Speaker 1>well and it'll be just to put a bowl on

433
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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing.

434
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<v Speaker 2>So absolutely yah yeah yeah. I mean that's the thing is,

435
00:23:24.279 --> 00:23:27.920
<v Speaker 2>you have three friendlies this window, which we haven't had

436
00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:31.200
<v Speaker 2>really before outside of you know, the She Believes Cup.

437
00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:33.799
<v Speaker 2>So three actual friendlies means you get three opportunities to

438
00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:39.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of test and measure and judge you know, player performances,

439
00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:42.559
<v Speaker 2>overall team performances, and again I just want to say

440
00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Iceland is good like that. That that's the thing that

441
00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:47.559
<v Speaker 2>like the US is going to have to deal with.

442
00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:50.640
<v Speaker 2>They've dealt with it a little bit. But going forward

443
00:23:50.720 --> 00:23:53.359
<v Speaker 2>is a lot of the European teams are just baseline

444
00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:57.480
<v Speaker 2>competent at soccer. Now, you know, that's weird what happens

445
00:23:57.480 --> 00:23:59.599
<v Speaker 2>when you actually allow women to play soccer and give

446
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<v Speaker 2>them a you know what funding? What I know, And

447
00:24:05.079 --> 00:24:06.400
<v Speaker 2>that's just going to be something that they're going to

448
00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:10.160
<v Speaker 2>deal with when playing European competition going forward, because unfortunately

449
00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:14.319
<v Speaker 2>with CONCA CALF, while there's some improvement on that front,

450
00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:17.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the CONCACAFF nations just aren't at that level.

451
00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:21.000
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, you've got, you know, especially with Iceland,

452
00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:25.400
<v Speaker 2>you've got several players who are on Champions League squads,

453
00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:29.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, playing for very good teams in Europe, and

454
00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:34.079
<v Speaker 2>two three one wins is pretty good against Iceland, you know.

455
00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:36.920
<v Speaker 2>And again, yes it's after a bunch of subs, but

456
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<v Speaker 2>subs count two. And it's not just the subs, it's

457
00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:44.400
<v Speaker 2>the ability to continue to wear down a team. So

458
00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:47.079
<v Speaker 2>what would this look like if you had your preferred

459
00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:49.960
<v Speaker 2>starting eleven and everyone's healthy, you know, I don't know,

460
00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:52.319
<v Speaker 2>but the fact that you're able to bring on like

461
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<v Speaker 2>in the first game you bring on Shaw, uh, and

462
00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:58.359
<v Speaker 2>she scores, but you also started Alyssa Thompson and she scores.

463
00:24:58.400 --> 00:24:59.799
<v Speaker 2>And in this game you go, okay, well the first

464
00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:02.079
<v Speaker 2>half isn't great, but you make I mean that was

465
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<v Speaker 2>because you you were experimenting Ryan Moultrie, like even to

466
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<v Speaker 2>an extent, Shaw playing on the right, like those are experimental.

467
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<v Speaker 1>You know, Uh, you're kicking the tires one stuff.

468
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<v Speaker 2>You're you're taking some chances here to see that's what

469
00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:20.920
<v Speaker 2>you're doing, right, you're fact finding. Okay, it didn't work

470
00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:22.960
<v Speaker 2>as well as you wanted to make a few changes,

471
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<v Speaker 2>and those changes are bringing on Lindsay Horan, who still

472
00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:29.079
<v Speaker 2>very good despite what people want to say, and bringing

473
00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:33.200
<v Speaker 2>on Lynd Williams, who yeah, I mean yeah, oh my

474
00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Lucy Browns shadowed her out for Vallandor like chance and

475
00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:42.160
<v Speaker 2>everyone blew a gasket. Now, I personally think if you're

476
00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:46.039
<v Speaker 2>picking a US women's national team, it should be Swanson

477
00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:49.599
<v Speaker 2>or Smith. That's just me. But like you can't deny

478
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Lindsay Horan and her quality when you watch her play

479
00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:58.119
<v Speaker 2>for Leon, you know, anyway, The point is the depth

480
00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:00.000
<v Speaker 2>on this team is getting better. And that's kind of

481
00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:01.920
<v Speaker 2>what Emma Hayes is trying to do, is we I

482
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:06.640
<v Speaker 2>think we have twelve to thirteen really good players that

483
00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:11.119
<v Speaker 2>we can rely on to perform when they're healthy. How

484
00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:14.839
<v Speaker 2>do we fill in the rest of the roster? Right,

485
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:16.480
<v Speaker 2>if you're going to get a twenty three player roster,

486
00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:18.759
<v Speaker 2>how does that fill out? I mean, you even got

487
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:20.559
<v Speaker 2>a new goalkeeper. We didn't talk about the actually and play.

488
00:26:20.599 --> 00:26:23.039
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't really matter. But you know, the girl from

489
00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:27.559
<v Speaker 2>Utah comes in because Jane Campbell, Mary has to go home. Right,

490
00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:32.960
<v Speaker 2>That's that's the benefit of this camp is getting all

491
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:35.519
<v Speaker 2>these new players in and you just increase the pool,

492
00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:37.720
<v Speaker 2>something we haven't seen a lot of from the US

493
00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:41.519
<v Speaker 2>national team. Black Co tried it, but he didn't really

494
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:44.039
<v Speaker 2>use them, Right, That's been the problem is you brought

495
00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:47.279
<v Speaker 2>these new players into camp, didn't really use them. You know,

496
00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:51.799
<v Speaker 2>Savannah Mello is a perfect example of that. But now

497
00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:55.680
<v Speaker 2>what does Emma go You know, I'm very curious what

498
00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:59.960
<v Speaker 2>her strategy is for Wednesday. She basically said. With NWSL

499
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.960
<v Speaker 2>finishing out their regular season on Friday through Sunday of

500
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:08.319
<v Speaker 2>this week, she's not gonna play those players who have

501
00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:12.240
<v Speaker 2>the Friday night games, so that does limit your selections now,

502
00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:16.240
<v Speaker 2>but you know, for I mean, here's the other thing.

503
00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:21.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean the terrible schedule making by the French schedule makers.

504
00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:24.839
<v Speaker 2>But we have PSG and leone players and you can

505
00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:26.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of say, like, now whatever, they're fine because most

506
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:30.039
<v Speaker 2>of the time PSG Leone aren't playing great competition.

507
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>For many of my problems, well, fair.

508
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Enough, but Leon and PSG play each other Sunday. That

509
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:42.880
<v Speaker 2>is bad schedule making because it's great to get the excitement.

510
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:45.480
<v Speaker 2>But like you just had all like Leon and PSG

511
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:49.079
<v Speaker 2>have a number of international players, like they're tired starting

512
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:52.400
<v Speaker 2>elevens or international players and whether they were playing Monday,

513
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Tuesday or Wednesday, they're coming off the international break. That

514
00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:58.559
<v Speaker 2>is not smart from those schedule makers.

515
00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll just say that I give the schedule home makers

516
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:01.960
<v Speaker 1>a harrumph.

517
00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we don't love that. But anyway, I'm curious

518
00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:09.359
<v Speaker 2>how she's gonna play this. And again, Argentina is a

519
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:14.319
<v Speaker 2>couple of steps down from Iceland as we have seen recently,

520
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:17.400
<v Speaker 2>so that that will also kind of play into lake.

521
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, personally, I want Emma, I want Emily SAMs

522
00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:22.599
<v Speaker 2>to start again, and I think if you see her

523
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:25.160
<v Speaker 2>and Germa, because Gurma won San Diego Wave that has

524
00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:27.799
<v Speaker 2>been eliminated from playoff contention, thanks Landon Donovan.

525
00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Well at least they don't have to play on that

526
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:33.440
<v Speaker 1>surface anymore.

527
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:37.359
<v Speaker 2>Really, Oh my good lord, John, No, grass surface is

528
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:39.160
<v Speaker 2>always better than everything, John, don't you know that?

529
00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Well? Yeah, and then then San grass is just better, yes,

530
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:47.039
<v Speaker 1>and Sandy there's no flaws with grass ever, none, and

531
00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:49.720
<v Speaker 1>sand is worse than grass, which is what the San

532
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Diego State got to play on this That wasn't ugly,

533
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>It was FuG Well.

534
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:57.839
<v Speaker 3>That surface looked like the opening scene of City of God.

535
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:00.119
<v Speaker 3>You've ever seen that?

536
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:01.799
<v Speaker 1>That was just man, that was awful.

537
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not great. But anyway, I think I think you're

538
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:11.759
<v Speaker 2>looking at possibly some very heavy line of rotation on Wednesday,

539
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:15.160
<v Speaker 2>just because of the schedule. But I do think we

540
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.960
<v Speaker 2>might see Sam's and Germa start together, and I personally

541
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:20.359
<v Speaker 2>would love to see that because I think they might

542
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:22.839
<v Speaker 2>be a really fun center back pairing, both very strong

543
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:24.640
<v Speaker 2>but still very competent on the ball.

544
00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Sg's are getting their emails, it's been put was posted

545
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:31.359
<v Speaker 1>out on social media about the upper Tank being available.

546
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>It's still so upper Tank is officially available for Messy

547
00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>and friends when they come here on the weekend. Turning

548
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:39.599
<v Speaker 1>the page to reffing down here. I know that Jared

549
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Jared had a couple of moments. I know that there

550
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>was one in particular, Jared. I think they had a

551
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>couple of them. Okay, sorry you had in your brain, sir,

552
00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:53.319
<v Speaker 1>for repping down here. You had a couple that probably

553
00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:54.960
<v Speaker 1>could be here for a review.

554
00:29:56.519 --> 00:29:58.839
<v Speaker 3>Oh well, okay, when I complained about most was actually

555
00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:00.680
<v Speaker 3>American football, and I'm not don't waste.

556
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Sparts time on that, No, but I thought that Charlotte.

557
00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's well, there's really just one there. And Bart,

558
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:10.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you saw the Pet beeal Pet

559
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:13.039
<v Speaker 3>Biell quote kick out.

560
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:15.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, here's my problem, Jared, I didn't see other than

561
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:17.960
<v Speaker 2>all what's on Twitter, and what's on Twitter is not

562
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:20.640
<v Speaker 2>a great replay.

563
00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:23.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I saw it in the moment and they

564
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:30.440
<v Speaker 3>played on it. So he gets tackled, he's kind of

565
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:32.359
<v Speaker 3>down and kind of rolling around on that. The defenders

566
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:35.119
<v Speaker 3>kind of like he's kind of stepping over him, but

567
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:37.839
<v Speaker 3>I'm not. It's one of those where like judging intent

568
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:40.319
<v Speaker 3>It's tricky because I don't know if he's stepping over

569
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:43.039
<v Speaker 3>him like AI stepping over TYLERU, or if he's stepping

570
00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:45.559
<v Speaker 3>over him like A. If I don't make this step

571
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:47.440
<v Speaker 3>over him, I might step on him, and I don't

572
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:48.119
<v Speaker 3>want to cause.

573
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:50.799
<v Speaker 2>Problems, right, I couldn't quite tell.

574
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:53.559
<v Speaker 3>It's weird. And then yeah, Biel's leg goes out. But

575
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:55.759
<v Speaker 3>but like I know, Jason and I talked about it

576
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:58.880
<v Speaker 3>and his concern. He was, you know, is bl sticking

577
00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:01.000
<v Speaker 3>his leg out there to keep the guy from falling

578
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:03.839
<v Speaker 3>on him or from stepping on him? Or is it.

579
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Almost looked like his got cat in the shoelace, to

580
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:09.319
<v Speaker 2>be quite honest, Yeah, that's another.

581
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Thing about it, is like that I was I saw

582
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:13.599
<v Speaker 3>in the moment. I thought it was a kick out

583
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:15.640
<v Speaker 3>in the moment because I saw his legs snap out. Yes,

584
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:19.880
<v Speaker 3>and I we were we were messaging about it, and

585
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:22.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, Biella just kicked out and then they

586
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.039
<v Speaker 3>kept playing. And I think the AR saw it because

587
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:27.119
<v Speaker 3>he I think, because the rest kind of looked to

588
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:30.279
<v Speaker 3>the AR then pulls out the red I was surprised

589
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.200
<v Speaker 3>they didn't go to the monitor. I know every call

590
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:36.559
<v Speaker 3>is checked by var I was surprised they didn't go

591
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:39.079
<v Speaker 3>to the monitor because I wondered, it's like sometimes y'all

592
00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:41.720
<v Speaker 3>can just go to the monitor just to reassure people

593
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:44.480
<v Speaker 3>it's it's not gonna hurt anythink that game was cooked.

594
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:47.480
<v Speaker 3>I would have done. I could have done with another

595
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:48.039
<v Speaker 3>couple of looks.

596
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Man, I think, I agree, and I think just to

597
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.039
<v Speaker 2>make sure that we said all the things are true, right,

598
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:56.960
<v Speaker 2>it looked bad. It may not have been bad. It

599
00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:58.720
<v Speaker 2>looked like he did this, but it also looked like

600
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:00.480
<v Speaker 2>he did this. I think at the end of the

601
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:03.559
<v Speaker 2>day when you when you see it maybe live action.

602
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:05.640
<v Speaker 2>That's the problem that I you know, if you watch

603
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:09.519
<v Speaker 2>it live and I never saw a video replay of that.

604
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:11.240
<v Speaker 2>That's the other issue is I only got to see

605
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:13.559
<v Speaker 2>because as you mentioned, it wasn't like video reviews. We

606
00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:15.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't get to see it other than the slow motion

607
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:18.599
<v Speaker 2>that you're seeing on Apple TV because and that might

608
00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:20.480
<v Speaker 2>be the problem with var there is because it's so

609
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:22.920
<v Speaker 2>far off the ball that they may not have great

610
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:25.680
<v Speaker 2>angles of it, and it's not clear cut like someone

611
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:28.400
<v Speaker 2>throwing in a punch type of thing, which is something

612
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:30.960
<v Speaker 2>that you probably get a better actual footage of. I mean,

613
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.039
<v Speaker 2>a punch is a punch is punch. I think that

614
00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:34.880
<v Speaker 2>that that's easier to tell than you know, a kick

615
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:38.880
<v Speaker 2>out where you're playing in sport with your feet. I

616
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:41.759
<v Speaker 2>don't have an issue necessarily with it being a red

617
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:45.319
<v Speaker 2>card because I think when you look at it, if

618
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:50.480
<v Speaker 2>what the communication was between the AR and the center referee,

619
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:52.680
<v Speaker 2>we don't know what that is, and it very well

620
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:54.960
<v Speaker 2>could have been the center said, oh, yeah, he kicked them,

621
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:57.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, oh he kicked out at him, and he

622
00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.519
<v Speaker 2>may have seen the excessive force that it wires for

623
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:04.400
<v Speaker 2>that red card, you know. And again we don't have

624
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:06.599
<v Speaker 2>the luxury of just looking at that right now, which

625
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:07.599
<v Speaker 2>is a problem in.

626
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:12.680
<v Speaker 3>Top end ninety. The Charlotte account shared an alternate look

627
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:14.599
<v Speaker 3>at and to Andrew Weeby shared as well over the

628
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:17.000
<v Speaker 3>yeah ship for mlssent like, and the more I looked

629
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:21.880
<v Speaker 3>at that one, the shoelace thing kind of yeah, maybe

630
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<v Speaker 3>because the way, because it's funny you say that, I

631
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:26.839
<v Speaker 3>went back and looked at it, and as you're talking,

632
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:29.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, his foot's moving with his foot as if

633
00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:31.279
<v Speaker 3>it's like a gruptural marks mirror.

634
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wish I'm with you, Jared. I wish they

635
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>would have said, hey, we're giving you a red card

636
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:41.200
<v Speaker 2>because we saw this, and then immediately start that video check.

637
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<v Speaker 2>Is it clear and obvious? I don't know, and that's

638
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:49.000
<v Speaker 2>obviously the standard we have to have, but I think

639
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:52.000
<v Speaker 2>this is the time we're again using the tool of

640
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:56.000
<v Speaker 2>video assistant referee that extra eye to say, I think

641
00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:59.720
<v Speaker 2>it's worth looking at right to let the referee on

642
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:03.599
<v Speaker 2>the field make the fullest The.

643
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:05.119
<v Speaker 3>Thing was like, the thing that got me was I

644
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:08.480
<v Speaker 3>felt like there wasn't much protest from Biel as he

645
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:11.679
<v Speaker 3>went off to that, and I kind of was like,

646
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:16.320
<v Speaker 3>why is there not more protest here? Yeap, just because

647
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:21.199
<v Speaker 3>like if if like if you had if you got

648
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:23.480
<v Speaker 3>I feel like if you had gotten tangled up and

649
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:26.440
<v Speaker 3>you were trying to untangle yourself correct, your protest would

650
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:30.440
<v Speaker 3>have been very demonstrated, because yeah, this game is cooked.

651
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:33.920
<v Speaker 3>But now Charlotte's have seen their number ten for a

652
00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:37.719
<v Speaker 3>return leg ye against a team that kind of like

653
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:40.719
<v Speaker 3>rolled them down the field for most.

654
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:41.119
<v Speaker 2>Of that game.

655
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:42.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how much of that game you saw,

656
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:47.840
<v Speaker 3>but like Charlotte had a couple of moments. Otherwise, like Orlando.

657
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Was, I didn't get to watch watch but what I

658
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.800
<v Speaker 2>was watching in the car, it was like, oh yeah,

659
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Orlando's kind of taken it to him, and yeah.

660
00:34:56.039 --> 00:35:00.360
<v Speaker 3>Like Charlotte almost didn't seem up for getting punch around

661
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:00.599
<v Speaker 3>a bit.

662
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:05.360
<v Speaker 2>You just hate to see it. I had this existent

663
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Jared I have, and people can shine up in the comments.

664
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:10.639
<v Speaker 2>I had this existential debate with myself and the others

665
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:14.480
<v Speaker 2>in the car coming home because obviously Atlanta United fans

666
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:18.880
<v Speaker 2>don't like Orlando. Yeah, but I'm kind of more annoyed

667
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:20.400
<v Speaker 2>with Charlotte fans thinking they're.

668
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, well, Charlotte. When the owner for Charlotte out

669
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:30.559
<v Speaker 1>of the blocks says Atlanta's our arrival and he starts

670
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:33.679
<v Speaker 1>running smacking his opening press conference about Atlanta, and then

671
00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:34.599
<v Speaker 1>I could understand that.

672
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:37.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm just at this point where I'm like, okay, well,

673
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Orlando has their trophy. I don't want them to get

674
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:42.159
<v Speaker 2>any more. But I certainly don't want Charlotte thinking that

675
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:44.000
<v Speaker 2>they're better than they are because they're like, oh, we

676
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:46.039
<v Speaker 2>did better than at Lanting night of the season. Okay,

677
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:49.039
<v Speaker 2>well one, we were shipped this season two.

678
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:52.159
<v Speaker 3>And we still w and bet Charlotte in their building.

679
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, It's not like y'all had a fantastic season.

680
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Congratulations on finishing what six.

681
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:02.079
<v Speaker 3>I part of the want a Charlotte Atlanta playoff because

682
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:03.920
<v Speaker 3>nobody can win a home game in this series to

683
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:04.679
<v Speaker 3>save their lives.

684
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:10.519
<v Speaker 2>That's true. Uh yeah, I don't know whatever y'all think

685
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:11.840
<v Speaker 2>in the comments, but I was just like.

686
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:17.760
<v Speaker 3>You can, you can grab a few of my church

687
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:22.679
<v Speaker 3>because I've been in the camp of Charlotte. Nashville annoyed

688
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:23.480
<v Speaker 3>me much more.

689
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:29.239
<v Speaker 2>Orlando feels like proper soccer fans to an extent. They

690
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:32.679
<v Speaker 2>need to collectively as a group because they like to

691
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 2>fight too much.

692
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, but I don't.

693
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't care about I s C And how their

694
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:43.000
<v Speaker 2>fans are friendlier to us. Screw them. The rest of

695
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:47.239
<v Speaker 2>their fans are terrible, arrogant Charlotte freaks. I don't like them.

696
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't like the city.

697
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:53.920
<v Speaker 1>He was careful. I could see another word formulating, I don't.

698
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Like the city of Charlotte. Go put on your dand

699
00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:00.559
<v Speaker 2>fleece fest and go crunch. Some numbers find it bro like,

700
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:02.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't need you to talk to me about soccer.

701
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:04.760
<v Speaker 3>That's the thing about it is, like, remember when they

702
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:06.480
<v Speaker 3>were coming in the league. You still had a lot

703
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:06.800
<v Speaker 3>of you.

704
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Still you will.

705
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:10.880
<v Speaker 3>I think you will always have like the the Charlotte

706
00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:14.719
<v Speaker 3>Atlanta rivalry as like the the smaller sister city. It's

707
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:15.960
<v Speaker 3>like the little brother city.

708
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:20.360
<v Speaker 2>It's it's Atlanta New Orleans, but Charlotte is the little

709
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:22.599
<v Speaker 2>the youngest brother, and you're like, who the hell are you.

710
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:26.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm still actively begging them to put an MLS team

711
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:28.719
<v Speaker 3>in New Orleans and you will see what a rivalry

712
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:29.199
<v Speaker 3>looks like.

713
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:31.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's that's hate.

714
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Hate all the MLS mothership people up in New York.

715
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:42.199
<v Speaker 3>Put a team in New Orleans. They I'll show you

716
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:43.039
<v Speaker 3>what a rivalry is.

717
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:46.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, rivalries don't exist outside of the northeast, Jarrett, So that's.

718
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:48.320
<v Speaker 3>Problem in the Callie Glasgow.

719
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:50.039
<v Speaker 1>That's true.

720
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, anyway, that was the And then like also

721
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:56.840
<v Speaker 2>being in Nashville kind of field and I hate of

722
00:37:56.920 --> 00:37:58.760
<v Speaker 2>like who the hell are yo? Are you all trying

723
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:01.039
<v Speaker 2>to talk smack at us? Like Nashville fans love to

724
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:04.559
<v Speaker 2>pretend like they're they're like, oh, we have this great

725
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:08.079
<v Speaker 2>say all these things. Look both of y'all are just

726
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:09.679
<v Speaker 2>in the cities that have an I P A and

727
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:12.320
<v Speaker 2>named after them. That that's all you are Wow.

728
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:14.800
<v Speaker 3>I feel like Nashville's coming back down to earth a bit.

729
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:16.480
<v Speaker 3>And I think this year kind of.

730
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:20.199
<v Speaker 2>Like they learned that just playing defense and hoping that

731
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Honey Muktar is good isn't the way to.

732
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:27.039
<v Speaker 1>Defense, and send Hannivert basically that's it.

733
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:30.480
<v Speaker 3>They also just signed They also just signed hired coach though,

734
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:33.599
<v Speaker 3>who has like a little Philadelphia and so like Nashville

735
00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:36.760
<v Speaker 3>might get some of that dark magic too, and which

736
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:41.679
<v Speaker 3>will only fuel this rivalry becausej was in the film

737
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:45.719
<v Speaker 3>at one point and if he starts bringing some of

738
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:51.719
<v Speaker 3>that like Jim Curtin, like he old ship House. Yeah,

739
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:54.039
<v Speaker 3>and everything's all kick off.

740
00:38:55.519 --> 00:39:01.079
<v Speaker 1>To Andy's uh Andy's question wondering about Tom Bogert. Since

741
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:06.199
<v Speaker 1>we're discussing Charlotte, it appears that Phoenix Rising are gonna

742
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:09.719
<v Speaker 1>name Charlotte assistant manager palmadou Ka is their next head coach.

743
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Co's gonna remain with Charlotte for the playoff run. Phoenix

744
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:16.480
<v Speaker 1>is in the playoffs, and so it looks like uh

745
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:18.519
<v Speaker 1>palmadu Ka is going to be the new head coach

746
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:20.639
<v Speaker 1>for the Phoenix Rising at the corner of thirty eighth

747
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:21.400
<v Speaker 1>in Washington.

748
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:22.679
<v Speaker 2>So good for him.

749
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Yep, good good, good pick up for them. I will

750
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:30.599
<v Speaker 1>looking for looking for his first looking for his first

751
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:33.079
<v Speaker 1>head coaching giggle. See how it is in the USA

752
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:38.280
<v Speaker 1>USL Championships are there? Uh? Okay? Uh? What other? I

753
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>know that there's one I know that we need to

754
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:42.639
<v Speaker 1>get into when it comes to var And it is

755
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:47.119
<v Speaker 1>going to be the delict challenge on Danny Ings, where

756
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:52.320
<v Speaker 1>everyone associated with Manchester United was waving their hands frantically

757
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:55.400
<v Speaker 1>in the air like they did care after the fact. Uh.

758
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>It ended up by the end of it all costing

759
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:05.639
<v Speaker 1>Eric tin Hog his gig and so yes. So it

760
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:08.800
<v Speaker 1>ends up as a penalty scored by Jared Bowen. It

761
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:13.320
<v Speaker 1>was contact with Matista leaked and Danny Ings. Eighty seventh minute.

762
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.440
<v Speaker 1>You're tied at one. It's out there for folks to

763
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:18.440
<v Speaker 1>stare at. What did you think?

764
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:23.679
<v Speaker 2>Well, one, I love a good al Sakkaco, so you

765
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:26.079
<v Speaker 2>know that was what this It feels like love. Peggy

766
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:28.480
<v Speaker 2>kept his job in ten Hog lost it because of us.

767
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:31.559
<v Speaker 2>So congratulations to the referees for deciding the future of

768
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:38.840
<v Speaker 2>two very rich men. Yeah. I thought this was a foul,

769
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:41.559
<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest. But the problem is everyone thinks that

770
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:43.519
<v Speaker 2>you know when you're in the penalty area that you

771
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:46.199
<v Speaker 2>need to have like committed murder for it to be

772
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:48.679
<v Speaker 2>a penalty kick. And commit a foul in the penalty area.

773
00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:51.199
<v Speaker 2>It's a penalty kick. That is the law of the game.

774
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.119
<v Speaker 2>And I thought it was a foul for tripping and

775
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:56.039
<v Speaker 2>that's just what it is.

776
00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:00.639
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, no, And so by the time they look at

777
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:02.880
<v Speaker 1>it and Dale Johnson and this is Dale is one

778
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:05.880
<v Speaker 1>of our reference points for this segment every week, and

779
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:11.039
<v Speaker 1>uh Dale goes through the whole gamut of the deal

780
00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and he says the Premier League has been determined to

781
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:16.960
<v Speaker 1>get the term referees call quotes into the lexicon this

782
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:20.760
<v Speaker 1>season and this would be a perfect example. If Russell

783
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Coote gave the penalty, you could see a reason, but

784
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:25.559
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't reach the clear and obvious threshold in English

785
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:29.119
<v Speaker 1>football to send the referee to the monitor. Bowen's penalty

786
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:32.280
<v Speaker 1>led to the two undefeat. PGMOL has been talking up

787
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:36.000
<v Speaker 1>how much faster var reviews have gotten the season, down

788
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:39.320
<v Speaker 1>from an average of seventy seconds per game to twenty

789
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:42.320
<v Speaker 1>five seconds. But this took two and a half minutes

790
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.679
<v Speaker 1>from the foul to coot pointing to the penalty spot

791
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:47.719
<v Speaker 1>and another two and a half minutes until Bowen struck

792
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the ball. And so a secondary question about the use

793
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>of the monitor, why is it there if we always

794
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:55.880
<v Speaker 1>see the referee change his decision. The answer is simple,

795
00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:59.519
<v Speaker 1>Johnson right through the otters, though the waters are muddled

796
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:02.039
<v Speaker 1>by a mud By protocol. The screen is supposed to

797
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:05.840
<v Speaker 1>be a safety net on subjective decisions, to give the

798
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:08.800
<v Speaker 1>referee the chance to spot an air by VAR. That's

799
00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:10.880
<v Speaker 1>the idea, but it doesn't really work. This is Johnson

800
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:15.960
<v Speaker 1>of op adding here. Last season there were five incorrect

801
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:19.079
<v Speaker 1>VAR interventions where the ref went to the screen still

802
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.239
<v Speaker 1>changed his decision. Refs go to the monitor knowing they're

803
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.719
<v Speaker 1>being told that they have made a clear and obvious error,

804
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:27.519
<v Speaker 1>not just to have a second look. Limitations of this

805
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>var process condition referees to think they've screwed up, so

806
00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the failsafe is in itself flawed. We'd all like referees

807
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:38.000
<v Speaker 1>to have more conviction and stick by their own call

808
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>a few times, but it seldom happens. Two referees rejected

809
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:44.920
<v Speaker 1>an overturned last season, yet only one was deemed correct,

810
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:47.199
<v Speaker 1>Michael Oliver turning down a review to rule out an

811
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:51.320
<v Speaker 1>arsenal goal against Everton, so Johnson said this was an

812
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:55.639
<v Speaker 1>incorrect var intervention. Oliver had won recorded error as VR

813
00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:57.280
<v Speaker 1>last season when he did an award the penalty in

814
00:42:57.280 --> 00:42:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the Brentford Forest, and so this will go down as

815
00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:02.199
<v Speaker 1>a mistake with David kot what about that?

816
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:05.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think I understand what his reasoning is.

817
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Right in the moment, you're looking at what the referee call.

818
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Was it a clear and obvious error? Now again, I

819
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:14.639
<v Speaker 2>still think it was a foul for tripping in the box.

820
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:20.719
<v Speaker 2>But was it clear and obvious? I think that's the

821
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:25.519
<v Speaker 2>debatable term, right, And just because I personally may have

822
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:27.760
<v Speaker 2>called it doesn't mean it's clear and obvious. I mean,

823
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:32.159
<v Speaker 2>I have this anytime I'm an AR, right, I center

824
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:34.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot, and this is you know, this happens a

825
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:36.360
<v Speaker 2>lot of the youth level, where we're all taking all

826
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:39.239
<v Speaker 2>the responsibilities. You get the pro level, you have center referees,

827
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:42.280
<v Speaker 2>you have ars. But for me, you know, I'll go

828
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:44.960
<v Speaker 2>from refereeing center being the center for two games to

829
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:48.480
<v Speaker 2>an AR for two games. And I have to remember

830
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:52.159
<v Speaker 2>that if I'm looking for fouls, my standard isn't the

831
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.840
<v Speaker 2>same as their standard. The guy in the middle, and

832
00:43:56.119 --> 00:44:01.199
<v Speaker 2>so that is something that I think when with this

833
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:05.719
<v Speaker 2>situation specifically, is did the var use a different standard

834
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:09.159
<v Speaker 2>for judging? Was it clear and obvious error? And again,

835
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I think it was a foul. That's my part, That's

836
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:16.039
<v Speaker 2>how I interpreted the situation. But I also agree with

837
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:18.440
<v Speaker 2>the line of saying, oh, hey, I think you made

838
00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:24.800
<v Speaker 2>a mistake right, puts it in their head mirror. And

839
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:28.800
<v Speaker 2>I do think that, like kind of going back to

840
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<v Speaker 2>the red card we talked about earlier, is hey, let's

841
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<v Speaker 2>make sure we got this right is a better way

842
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:39.960
<v Speaker 2>to frame it than got this wrong. And I think

843
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:42.400
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of a better way to kind of flip

844
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<v Speaker 2>that narrative in our heads when we're referring as like, hey,

845
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:47.599
<v Speaker 2>let's make sure we get it right, because again, with

846
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:53.239
<v Speaker 2>the red card, we're validating. It's almost like validating the call,

847
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:58.119
<v Speaker 2>which I think is the difference between how do I

848
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:01.480
<v Speaker 2>say this, let's go to foot American football where you

849
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<v Speaker 2>have a coach's challenge versus an under two minute review

850
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:09.119
<v Speaker 2>or a scoring play review. Right, we check scoring plays

851
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:12.719
<v Speaker 2>in American football because we want to make sure we

852
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<v Speaker 2>get the call correct, right. That is a monumental thing

853
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:17.079
<v Speaker 2>in this game. We want to make sure that we

854
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<v Speaker 2>got the scoring play correct. That's not to say we're

855
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:23.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, scrutinizing the referees on the field. We're saying,

856
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:25.519
<v Speaker 2>let's make sure that the ball crossed the goal line.

857
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Let's make sure he got two feed or one foot

858
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:32.239
<v Speaker 2>in bounce. Let's make sure all these criteria were met. Okay, yeah,

859
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:34.800
<v Speaker 2>we're good, right, And that is a review process that

860
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:38.599
<v Speaker 2>involves studio and everything, and sometimes it does we say, hey,

861
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I think you need to check this again. Tell me,

862
00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:43.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, let's make sure you think that he got

863
00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:47.079
<v Speaker 2>the two feet in or whatever it is right. That

864
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:50.119
<v Speaker 2>is different than a coach saying you got this wrong

865
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:54.039
<v Speaker 2>right now. Obviously, I think as a referee, if a

866
00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:55.840
<v Speaker 2>coach says, ah, I'm challenging this, you got it wrong,

867
00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:58.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be more like, no, I don't see.

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00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:01.360
<v Speaker 1>But that that is someone from the outside of the discussion.

869
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>That it's not a peer identifier, right, And I think.

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00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:06.679
<v Speaker 2>That's the problem is when a peer says, hey, I

871
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:10.079
<v Speaker 2>think you got it wrong, You're going to look at

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00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:12.159
<v Speaker 2>that with a well maybe I did type of thing.

873
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:15.320
<v Speaker 2>And that's not a good or bad thing. It's just

874
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:17.000
<v Speaker 2>a matter of phrasing it a little bit better, like, hey,

875
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:19.920
<v Speaker 2>let's make sure we got it right versus I think

876
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.639
<v Speaker 2>you got it wrong. And again, it's because we want

877
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:24.480
<v Speaker 2>to make sure we get the right call more often

878
00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:26.119
<v Speaker 2>than not. That's the goal here. We want to be

879
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:28.079
<v Speaker 2>as consistent and correct as possible.

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00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:30.480
<v Speaker 1>All Right, what else is going on in the world

881
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:32.840
<v Speaker 1>of soccer for US POD other than you visiting us

882
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:35.519
<v Speaker 1>on Friday morning? Bet and lead off to talk about this,

883
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:40.239
<v Speaker 1>going to try to record Oh yes.

884
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Tonight or tomorrow. It will be not specific to anything

885
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:47.840
<v Speaker 2>going on right now. Necessarily we might talk about the

886
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:51.840
<v Speaker 2>MLS schedule change. That is probably Yeah, I mean, that's

887
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:53.559
<v Speaker 2>a great point. Let's take another look at that. Again,

888
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:55.599
<v Speaker 2>it's about making sure we get it right, not making

889
00:46:55.599 --> 00:47:01.000
<v Speaker 2>sure that we correct necessarily you know you're wrong. Episode

890
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:04.159
<v Speaker 2>one hundred are probably going to look at bigger picture

891
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:09.559
<v Speaker 2>discussion points within US soccer. Again. One of those might

892
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:12.519
<v Speaker 2>be a timely thing of the MLS proposed schedule change, which,

893
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:15.559
<v Speaker 2>by the way, I think again is vastly overblown. Yes,

894
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:18.079
<v Speaker 2>it gets cold in Minnesota, it also gets really damn

895
00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:20.880
<v Speaker 2>hot in Houston, Texas, and no one complains about that.

896
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:25.079
<v Speaker 3>Whatever you can do it on a cold, rainy night

897
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:27.760
<v Speaker 3>in Minnesota. The same thame question I asked from Miami.

898
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Came in, Yeah, can you do it on one hundred

899
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:31.320
<v Speaker 2>and ten degree day in Kansas City? You know, no

900
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:34.199
<v Speaker 2>one cares about that. They answered that question can you do.

901
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:37.880
<v Speaker 3>It at a foty like who some old English center

902
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:41.599
<v Speaker 3>back whom he was Brian shack Cross did Miami sign

903
00:47:41.719 --> 00:47:42.159
<v Speaker 3>year one?

904
00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:42.679
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

905
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:44.599
<v Speaker 3>And he's like he did it on a cold rainy night.

906
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:45.960
<v Speaker 3>And still from the end I was like, yeah, now

907
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:47.760
<v Speaker 3>he's got to play four pm in Miami.

908
00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:50.519
<v Speaker 2>A yeah, yeah, which, by the way, is a solution

909
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:52.599
<v Speaker 2>if you think it's going to be too cold in Minnesota,

910
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:56.559
<v Speaker 2>Toronto or Montreal play at four pm, play at three pm,

911
00:47:56.920 --> 00:47:57.880
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden.

912
00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:00.800
<v Speaker 3>Well to your point, they are you do this if

913
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:02.400
<v Speaker 3>you go go look at the schedule, Go look at

914
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:05.000
<v Speaker 3>like Montreal schedule. They always start all around because you

915
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:06.760
<v Speaker 3>can't play in March in Montreal.

916
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Correct, and yeah, and the umbrella and the umbrella at

917
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the Big O is broken, so you can't question.

918
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Question question is it broken or did it ever work?

919
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:25.079
<v Speaker 1>Well? It it's well it never a it never worked.

920
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:27.760
<v Speaker 1>But right, but when if you looked at Mike's photograph

921
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.400
<v Speaker 1>as they were flying into montrealf for the card game.

922
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:35.880
<v Speaker 1>The fabric is gone. So the fabric is gone from

923
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:38.559
<v Speaker 1>the umbrella at the Big O. So I was like, well,

924
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:40.280
<v Speaker 1>why why can't they? And then I look at Mike's

925
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:43.039
<v Speaker 1>photograph and you see the fabric has disappeared, and you're like, okay,

926
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:45.559
<v Speaker 1>now I know why. So yeah, it ain't even fit

927
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:47.679
<v Speaker 1>for it ain't even fit for doing something in the

928
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:51.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, short center field. Now, uh so let us

929
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:53.079
<v Speaker 1>know of the hundred because we have to do the

930
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:55.880
<v Speaker 1>appropriate huzzahs and trumpets and celebrations and things like.

931
00:48:55.960 --> 00:48:59.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking through Mike's uh oh good, he's got.

932
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Over.

933
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it is I didn't see that.

934
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:08.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is my this is my stop, John. But

935
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<v Speaker 3>I do want to tell you as we're as we're

936
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<v Speaker 3>leaving that Ted Ruff has been fired and yeah that's.

937
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:17.079
<v Speaker 1>Pot okay, all right, So we'll see you, all right,

938
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<v Speaker 1>We'll see Jared tomorrow, and we'll see Bart tomorrow, Bart

939
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:23.599
<v Speaker 1>once again at soccer for us PO D. Huzzahs, hurrahs

940
00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:27.360
<v Speaker 1>and trumpets for getting episode.

941
00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:29.599
<v Speaker 2>Take it like three years, but we got there.

942
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's all right, it's all good, all right, So

943
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:34.400
<v Speaker 1>we'll see you on Friday, my friend. Thanks for dropping

944
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:36.360
<v Speaker 1>by as always, for roughing down here and for letting

945
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:37.639
<v Speaker 1>us know what's going on your mind when it comes

946
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.480
<v Speaker 1>to the national teams. Be safe and go get more caffeine.

947
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:42.119
<v Speaker 2>I might need a nap at lunch.

948
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Well then then then get Oh what's the mug by

949
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:44.639
<v Speaker 1>the way?

950
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:48.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, we're on brand today. WU. So we got the

951
00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:51.480
<v Speaker 2>w read college and media right here here it is

952
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.639
<v Speaker 2>here Cuz I'll cheer on the Mountaineers when they win.

953
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Congrat you got us a win. So you're still gone

954
00:49:58.880 --> 00:49:59.519
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the year.

955
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. A winner tie exactly,

956
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:04.880
<v Speaker 1>all right, we'll have.

957
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:06.280
<v Speaker 2>You coach lending attitudes.

958
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:09.519
<v Speaker 1>We need a new coach there, right, I haven't heard anything.

959
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh I thought thought that maybe that was another coach

960
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:13.320
<v Speaker 2>in the system.

961
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:15.079
<v Speaker 1>I haven't know all. I mean, we do have a

962
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<v Speaker 1>we have a new director of methodology.

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00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:18.280
<v Speaker 2>That's what it is. Thank you.

964
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<v Speaker 1>We have a new director of methodology. And if you haven't,

965
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<v Speaker 1>you haven't seen or heard that interview with how your

966
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:24.880
<v Speaker 1>pet is, I would recommend it. We need a new

967
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:28.679
<v Speaker 1>coach for a good, good twenty minutes there as well,

968
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:29.719
<v Speaker 1>So good stuff'll see.

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00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.400
<v Speaker 2>You'll be happy Halloween week. Enjoy your circuit treats. Remember

970
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:34.239
<v Speaker 2>that you do need to screen your children's candy to

971
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:35.800
<v Speaker 2>make sure that they don't get all the good stuff.

972
00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:38.679
<v Speaker 1>Yes, like the Reese's pieces. They go to me and

973
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:41.159
<v Speaker 1>there goes Bart. All right, so here's our here's the stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on for the rest of the deal.