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Speaker 4: It's off the bench, all right, welcome back in that
number three O TV here live from the Raising Kine studio.
They were and have our guy Devin Snow join us
probably about fifteen minutes from now, if he's still available.
Speaker 5: We'll see Saints win.
Speaker 6: Still still celebrating the Saints victory. Got to celebrate the victories.
They're few and far between.
Speaker 5: There's two of them.
Speaker 4: There's two of them, so yeah between, yeah, and very few.
You're gonna make sure you celebrate those.
Speaker 5: Microphones dying on me.
Speaker 7: Mm.
Speaker 4: We'll see what We'll see what happens with the old
Saints here down the stretch. That was a good win,
going on the road against a team that had a
winning record this deep into the season. I don't really
care you know how they got there. I mean, the
Panthers beat some good teams to get to those five victories.
Speaker 5: Let's see what they do now.
Speaker 4: Though you've got a bye week before you face the
Falcons and Dolphins too bad teams.
Speaker 6: My god, the Falcons, Like, who are you? I watched
the Falcons and they're town talented. So when you watch
the Falcons play, they lose a lot of games and poorly,
and they don't get the benefit of just being a
bad football team because they have good players around it.
They got a first round quarterback that looks great. But
what their organizations and shambles right now?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Like they first of all, they're playing bad. Their first rounder,
who there is highly talented, which I think is I
thought for sure before going to this game or this
season that he was he was going to be it
for them, and he's shown moments of that.
Speaker 5: And then.
Speaker 6: Guess who has their first round pick this year? The
Ram they own their first round pick. Who's going to
look looking like a top ten pick? Yeah, because they're
but they're Rams. They're pretty good, right.
Speaker 4: Falcons Wining got two pass rushers, which wildly enough has
actually helped them because they were so bad getting after
the quarterback last year.
Speaker 8: They're much better this year. But their team success yep.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So if you like to laugh at your rival,
this is a good chance to do it.
Speaker 4: Michael Pennix right now only completing fifty eight percent of
his passes.
Speaker 8: That's bad in today's NFL.
Speaker 6: It's wild to say that though, right, I know, yeah,
I know, but like it is sixty sixty or above
is you have to be.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got to be above sixty.
Speaker 4: Now he's only thrown nine touchdowns and I didn't have
a ton of turnovers, but he's not really doing anything
with the ball, only six yards per tien And.
Speaker 6: I feel like we're the only ones that I think,
like people watching the only ones that are like, yeah,
Jon Robinson, you probably should just feed him the ball
because they're just not doing it.
Speaker 4: You have a so you have a team that has Bijon,
you have Drake London's if you have Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 5: Drake's so good too.
Speaker 4: Like Darnel Mooney has had big moments in the NFL.
He's averaging like fifteen yards to catch this year, but
it's just he's only got thirteen targets are thirteen receptions
so far in the year. They got they got some
weapons defensively, they've got guys.
Speaker 6: But Pennix is just good enough to frustrate you because
he looks so good, and you're like, what look at
that throw?
Speaker 5: He ripped that one.
Speaker 6: That's a you know how many people making that throw
and that throw and that throw They're like, whoa what
was that?
Speaker 5: I did?
Speaker 6: No one hit the ground, not even close. I don't know,
to get good a chance for the Saints put two.
Speaker 5: Together when a when a left he's going bad. It
looks so much.
Speaker 6: Yeah, lefties they just look like shoulder throwers to it too.
And then did you ever see the clips of Michael
Pinnock's in college where someone was like, all right, watch
Michael Pinnix. I've totally mirror imaged these clips, and he's
thrown right handed, and he looks like his motion looks
completely like I'm gonna say normal, because that's what most
of what we know. It didn't look like he was
like a shoulder throw. Then you switched to the left
hand and it just does, I don't know, weirdest thing.
Speaker 4: All right, y'all, let me know if this would be
bold enough for the turnover chain, because like for a
normal team, this.
Speaker 5: Would mid season both take for a for a normal.
Speaker 6: Team, this would not be bold for normal team, but
for a team that it's two to eight. I think
this is pretty bold.
Speaker 4: I think of the last seven games for the New
Orleans Saints, they're gonna win four of them.
Speaker 5: They're gonna go four and three.
Speaker 8: I think they're gonna go four and three.
Speaker 4: They've got the Falcons, the Dolphins, the Bucks, the Panthers again,
the Jets, the Titans.
Speaker 2: In the Falcons, they can absolutely win for those games.
Speaker 4: So they'll double their win total. I think it's pretty bold.
They're gonna go and they're gonna have six wins on
the years. No, the Saints their last seven games.
Speaker 5: Falcons is a winnable game.
Speaker 2: I think you're going to beat the Dolphins, bold, beat
the Bucks, You'll beat the Jets, you'll beat the Titans.
Speaker 9: Lost to the Panthers or no, you beat the Panthers,
so maybe you'll win that one again in the Jets,
and there.
Speaker 2: Again we'll split the Falcons.
Speaker 5: It's not bolder. Two and eight.
Speaker 8: They would double their win total.
Speaker 5: For a team that's two and eighth.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, as I.
Speaker 4: Said, for a normal team. No, if I was saying
about the Packers are chargers.
Speaker 10: No.
Speaker 5: Bold? Thanks making the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Don't look now, ak if he gets five hundred and
forty yards in these last seven games.
Speaker 5: Richard, I mean that's bold. Sure, that's that's more ble. Yeah,
James Madison about to make the playoff. Maybe do you.
Speaker 9: Think they win out the rest of the season.
Speaker 5: I guess looking at that schedule, you do forget how bad.
Speaker 4: Now that they win four of their last seven, four
and three in their last seven.
Speaker 9: I can get behind that.
Speaker 6: You do forget like that they're a bad football team.
When you look at the opponents schedule and they just
one a games, everyone's feeling.
Speaker 5: Good about it.
Speaker 9: Well, Raheem Morris is the favorite to be the next
NFL coach that's fired. So the Falcons, that's winnable.
Speaker 2: He's the worst coaching He's the worst head coach in
the NFL.
Speaker 9: Dolpons is a coin toss. I don't think you win
against the Bucks. You could probably beat the Panthers again,
Jets bad, Titans bad, and then you close out the
season with the Falcons again.
Speaker 2: So let's see you you split the Atlanta Falcons because
you normally do. There's one win. You can beat the Dolphins,
there's two Jets, are three, Titans four.
Speaker 5: Yep, I'm gonna call it two and five. The Titans
are megass. They're terrible, two and five bad.
Speaker 9: Chris Marler the other last week, mouth breather, He's gonna be.
Speaker 8: So mad if you heard that.
Speaker 9: He tweeted something like, why are we acting like the
Saints are not worse than the Jets? And I was like,
because they're not, they at least have We'll find out.
Kellen Moore, Yeah, we'll find out. But I don't think
that they are. I think that the Saints have like
a pretty good game plan going into the game. They
just again we talked about this last week. All their
positions are twos.
Speaker 5: Mhm.
Speaker 2: There are three games this year the field started all
four quarters. He has thrown for under fifty five yards. Yeah,
three games this year. That's that's name.
Speaker 5: Same.
Speaker 8: Marler feels like he's a fan. I don't know his
NFL team, Falcons.
Speaker 5: Let's oh, yeah, I was the same Patriots. He feels
like a Patriots fan. Okay, let's look at the game
because he did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he just does. He feels like a Patriots fan. Okay, Falcons.
Speaker 5: So there, let's look at their schedule.
Speaker 6: Okay, you're showing a lot of games that they should win,
all right, that they could win well, they could win.
Speaker 5: Let's they should not.
Speaker 6: Let's look at that's what I want to do. Let's
look at the record. Which game should they win?
Speaker 5: Jets?
Speaker 8: Should they win the Titans? I think they should win those.
Speaker 6: Yes, but they could beat the Falcons, right, could beat
the Panthers again, they could beat the Dolphins.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the the Jets is at home in the Dome.
Speaker 5: I like that spot.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The Titans are just they're barely a professional football team. Yeah, now,
I know they fired their coach, but like, and Mike
McCoy's I know Mike, I played for Mike. I don't
like Mike's not the guy that's gonna be like energetic
in front of a crowd. Let's just say that. Like
it's not his personality. Like he's kind of sitting in
the corner of the of the room and design ball
plays kind of coach like that's that's who he is.
So like, by the time you get to December twenty eighth,
the Titans are going to be in Cancun, Like every
one of those players, but for the Saints still gonna
Callen's gonna be their coach.
Speaker 5: Right, So you you've got more.
Speaker 4: Of a structure where the Titans fried their coach already
you got Mike McCoy in there. Yeah, sure, coach. You
know you're probably not going to be here either. Yeah,
we already got our trip planned. Mm hmm to be
cold as you know what in Nashville at the end
of December.
Speaker 5: I've played there in the end of December. It is miserable.
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's just say they split the games they could win,
which is would be one win. They split the games
they should win. That gives them three wins. If they
split the ones they could and they split the ones
they should that'd be three wins.
Speaker 8: And there's some people probably listening say, why would you
want to win?
Speaker 5: I'm just not wired to do the other thing.
Speaker 10: I'm not.
Speaker 8: I'm just like, I can't get behind that. I understand
what you're saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I understand what you're saying about a draft choice
and you don't want to win games. I get all
as a fan. I just I can't get you there
because that's not the way I'm built. I'm not going
out there to play a game and hope my team loses.
I just can't do that for you. And like Nick
said yesterday, and we were talking about if you were winning.
That means Tyler Shuck's playing really well, and that means
you might have your quarterback of the future. And that
means you can take whatever draft choice you get and
add maybe more draft choices, maybe you trade back a
little bit, or maybe you get creative and do something
different with the pick. You need more than just one player,
but if you've got quarterback figured out, you can parlay
that pick.
Speaker 5: Into maybe two or three players.
Speaker 4: So it's not the worst case scenario because that means
Tyler Shuck might be your guy.
Speaker 5: In the future.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because unfortunately, if you do end up with the
top pick or the top two pick, unfortunately, that means
you probably haven't figured out the quarterback position and you're
going to have to continue to try to do that
before solving a lot of other issues potentially. So if
you do get knocked out, if he does win a
couple of games here and there and you okay, let's
say you're picking seven, eight, nine, that probably means you
figured out your quarterback position. So that's the biggest piece
of the puzzle at you know, no domino can really
fall to that one.
Speaker 9: Does Yeah, but we already have only two wins, so
I feel like we're probably in a pretty good position now.
Like I know the Jets are bad, I know the
Titans are bad, but I also don't think that there's
I know people are gonna say for Nanda Mendozo, but
I just don't feel like there's anybody that's worth tanking for.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and just don't guarantee you.
Speaker 2: Find finding surefire number one quarterback. Like their point, there's
there's not one every year, there's one guy.
Speaker 9: The first thing I'm looking at is my offensive line.
That's like the first thing that I want to get
in the draft.
Speaker 6: But more first round picks. I don't know, but I
don't want to.
Speaker 8: But to your point, yeah, I mean it's still bad.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think you've got to figure it out.
Speaker 4: It tackle you traded Trevor Pinning, McCoy gets he's going
through the injury portion of his career.
Speaker 2: We talked about Luke Fordners doing better.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, there was only one way to go. You
need you need a corner.
Speaker 2: You need to need a number one receiver. That's where
I'm going in the first round. Number one receiver.
Speaker 6: You have to have one is making a case for it.
Speaker 5: Three games over one hundred and I think is a
great number two. Yeah, I think I think Alave is
a one B. Could be one of the best in
the league.
Speaker 6: Like there's some weeks where he's like NASA three, but
in there some ways, Right, I don't know he's good.
Speaker 5: Let's let's be honest. He just he kind of disappears
every now and then. Oh, he's always been good.
Speaker 4: That's the product of his surroundings, though it's not been
of a is he good enough to do it? It's
like for what that team needs, for what the New
Orleans Saints need, can he be that?
Speaker 5: I think?
Speaker 4: And not with that offense and where he's at, like
he would be a perfect one B. There's nothing wrong
with that.
Speaker 6: And for whatever reason, it seems like he really wants
to be there, whatever reason, I'm just calling it like
it is.
Speaker 9: People give me Jeremiah Smith.
Speaker 8: They still got another year of college unfortunately.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I wanted obviously, which is crazy because
he's that good.
Speaker 2: Corneal Tait though, Cornel Tate's coming out, Jordan Tyson's coming out,
you got good receivers coming out.
Speaker 9: Where are you saying that?
Speaker 5: Well, I was just following up.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying for whatever reason he wants to be there,
Like if you were a top gut your positioner, you
knew you could thrive somewhere else, and you were at
a struggling place he went out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it seems like he wants to be there.
Speaker 6: That's why I was always mad at Camara, like, man,
go you love something to set it free with Myles.
Speaker 9: Well, I guess Miles Garrett doesn't love Cleveland, but they
gave him money.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got that bag. Yeah, I think he's regretting
that too. Go to a contender. Nobody loves right, just Taylor.
Taylor loves Clan.
Speaker 2: I flew into the airport, so it's my favorite city.
Speaker 4: It is you talk about all the time your.
Speaker 2: Bachelor party you did again, did not have my bachelor
party to the airport though, everybody?
Speaker 5: Sorry?
Speaker 9: Sandusky?
Speaker 5: Yeah, different city.
Speaker 8: How far Sandusky from Cleveland?
Speaker 5: Hour it's too close? Hour fifteen? Maybe I'm with Jerry God.
I was trying to get the brave before you did it.
Speaker 2: And so I didn't run into him.
Speaker 5: To your point, the.
Speaker 4: Good thing you didn't, right, huh. On that note, we'll
take a break. Devin snow aka hold the Mayo when
we come back here, on OTV.
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Speaker 4: Welcome back in ot B here live from the Raizor
Canes Studio. No, it's not Monday, but any day is
a great day to have our guy, Devin Snow aka
hold the Mayo on the show.
Speaker 3: Dev.
Speaker 5: What's going on, brother, How we're doing? How we living?
Speaker 10: What's up fellas doing? All right?
Speaker 5: Wait, I's all right? Yeah, hold on.
Speaker 4: The Saint's got a dub this last weekend, Tyler shuck
out there making plays.
Speaker 8: I thought we'd hear a little bit more glee in
your voice.
Speaker 10: Dev, Oh oh no, too much.
Speaker 4: I did well, I know I didn't. We didn't hear you.
I think I think Cox muted you.
Speaker 10: You know you might have to call me on my
cell phone. Man, I gotta be honest. This panasonics going out.
Can y'all hear me right now?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, we can hear you.
Speaker 8: Then the landline's giving out.
Speaker 10: Yeah. Man, you know you got to sacrifice one thing
for a Saints win. That's what we sacrifice in the Landline.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, I don't know, so, Dev, I think the
Saints got me. I mean, right before you came on,
I'm sitting there and I'm looking at it.
Speaker 8: I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think I think three.
Speaker 4: I think the Saints might go four and three final
seven games.
Speaker 5: They're playing some bad teams.
Speaker 10: It's looking like nine to eight. It is. It is
looking like I was literally just looking at that before
I got on the phone. I was like, all right, Atlanta,
they've fallen off. Miami. We know at Tampa. I mean
they've even fallen off, right, they gotta go play the Bills. Carolina.
This is the old look at the schedule and and
feel optimistic part of the year.
Speaker 4: Yep, again, I know you're a two win team, but
you got some opportunity on a win streak, right if
you will. So the thing is, Devin, I'll ask you
this question. You're getting into the point, Okay, do I
want the Saints to lose and so you can get
a better draft choice, even though I don't really know
that you can trust Mickey Loomis to make the right decision,
or do you want to go win games?
Speaker 5: Because if you win games, that probably.
Speaker 4: Means Tyler Shuck has shown you enough to be your
guy maybe moving forward, and you can look at other
positions in the draft exactly.
Speaker 10: See, that's that's kind of what I prefer, right because
I don't want to go through the whole process of
grooming a quarterback, you know, picking a young quarterback again,
it's going to take a year to type stuff, right.
I think if there's one thing that can be encouraging
about Tyler Shuck is that was only his second NFL start.
So in his second NFL start, he threw for two
hundred and eighty yards two touchdowns. Look comfortable, you saw
the positives. You could air it out, you know. Damn man,
I mean, come on.
Speaker 5: Birt the old Panasonic.
Speaker 9: Let me call him cell phone, you can hear me.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Hey, I don't know that I've ever been in a situation.
Speaker 5: Somebody with a wire.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because when we have dooring on, doing is always like, hey,
call my office so I can be on a landline,
so it can be a clear connection.
Speaker 6: Why don't see Devin with like with the landline that's
got the uh the inverse arch on it, so you
can hold it against your shoulder too with your head. Yeah.
But that's the point of having the landline is you're
connected to.
Speaker 5: The land. Yeah, I don't know. It's hard wire, hard
wired to land. See dev I.
Speaker 2: Got him back.
Speaker 4: Yes, you start the wax poetic about the Saints. Somebody
trying to keep you down.
Speaker 5: My man.
Speaker 10: It was doing that during the calling show on Sunday.
I think I just got to like hard reset it.
But yeah, man, I.
Speaker 4: Was saying, like, hey, just say do it like an
old Nintendo just doesn't hook it from the wall, just
just blowing.
Speaker 5: It and then just got blow on the phone.
Speaker 4: Yeah it'll be he'll be a okay, no.
Speaker 10: But I was saying, man, I mean this is this
is like what you want to see, right, You want
to you want to see Tylers shuck doing well enough
to where you ain't got to go draft a quarterback
and do another project with, you know, waste a bunch
of time. It's only a second NFL start, right, and
he's doing a lot. He did a lot of things
in that say I never took the first start. Serious,
I'm sorry you only had the ball for sixteen minutes. Yeah,
you know you're playing the Rams defense. You go in
this game Division game. He looks comfortable you know, he's
getting it to our guys. Bro, He's getting it to
a love, a love over one hundred yards, you know
what I'm saying, Like really, I mean he threw it
to a guy that I had never seen in my life,
never heard of him man eighty four Zaia Mitchell Padden
where he came from the streets. Hands up if you've
never seen him before, you know, I'd never heard of him.
Speaker 5: Hand up, My hand is up.
Speaker 10: No, never heard of that.
Speaker 6: Good Jahan Johnson catch him for like eighty something ours.
Even though it looks like he catches with only his palms.
Speaker 4: Only his palms, He's not allowed touch the ball with
his fingers for sure.
Speaker 10: Yeah. Yeah, And Jowan was dying to fumbling.
Speaker 5: On that first time. He wanted to fumble so bad.
Speaker 6: I just hold my breath when that ball is headed
to him, and then even if he catches it, I'm
still holding.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hold my breath bore after he catches it,
I think, yeah, because it just feels like he is
inevitably going to fumble.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 10: Oh, he did a courtesy fumble out of bound.
Speaker 4: He couldn't help it. He thought, That's the way I
think he thinks you're supposed to. Yeah, yeah, he thinks
you get bonus points.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I just I don't know, man, it's it's it's
nice to see Kyler Shuck look good just in the second.
Like I said, I never took that first game serious
because he only had the ball for sixteen min right,
so you can't really like evaluate them off at that.
This game was perfect to really see. This is what
they've been talking about. Man, this is what what's his
name is talking about? Lewis Reddy? Yeah, you know it
just it looked right, It looks right, all right.
Speaker 6: Well, when I saw this story this morning, I had
your name written all over it because I wanted to.
Speaker 5: I wanted to get your feedback on this.
Speaker 6: It's a nothing burger, but I wanted to ask your
feedback on it because Tyler Schuck did play great. So
if he can stack these on top of each other,
stack these games, then you know, even if you win
some games and lose some draft position, that's fine because
you you might have that that piece of the puzzle,
the quarterback piece of puzzle figured out, but got an
option for you at it, figuring out that quarterback position
leader in the clubhouse or one of the leaders in
the clubhouse for odds on favorite to land Kyler Murray.
Speaker 5: Next year the same.
Speaker 10: Oh my god.
Speaker 6: When I saw this, I was like, yeah, I want
to get Devin's feedback on Kyler Murray wearing a flur
de lee on his helmet.
Speaker 10: I guess the uh look. I like Kyler Murray. I
think he's talented and all that, but I don't know, man.
I just questioned, like, first of all, the durability that
keeps coming up as a thing, right, So that's the
last thing with Saint Jeviani.
Speaker 4: I don't care what you play, release.
Speaker 10: Schedule, gotta check that's it. Oh my god, took the
words out of my mind. Man. Black Ops seven is
coming out literally this week, so that's you think that
that don't ironically match up to why he's not playing
right now. I mean, I know they say he's hurt,
but you know it's it's Black Ops is coming out.
You know, this is this is Call of Duty season.
So I think I would have to pass with a
capital P. Yeah. On Kyler Murray, I just I don't know.
Speaker 6: I was looking at his stats. It's actually chriss aren't
that bad. It's just like I don't know he just
ain't it.
Speaker 10: He just ain't it, that's all. He just ain't it.
But you know, he is the type of guy that
can beat the same stuff, that's for sure. But can.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Dev I want to ask you a
tough question at the at the end of the sporting calendar.
Speaker 8: Is there going to be a new Orleans team that
you're proud of?
Speaker 5: Between the Saints the Pels.
Speaker 4: I mean you can kind of even throw l s
U into that that situation as well.
Speaker 8: Or are you gonna have anything to be happy about?
Speaker 10: I mean that's tough options, right that you know, nothing
really stands out that you're thinking.
Speaker 5: About picking the Saints. That's options.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, right, that's.
Speaker 8: The city edition uniforms look great. For the Pelicans, there's that, Yeah,
of course, dear Queen's playing.
Speaker 4: Finally, there's that Tim Duncan sending, you know, text messages
during the game about Queen. I don't know.
Speaker 10: Maybe, yeah, No, it can't be the Pelicans. I'm sorry,
it just can't be. It's just not. I mean, they
play Portland tonight and Portland's five and five. I mean
I've seen Portland beat OKC this year, right, So I
don't know. Man, I just don't think that. I don't
think the Peals are going to get it together, and
so they make like major coaching changes, you know. And look,
that's what respect to Willy Green is probably a good dude.
But good dudes, don't you know. I mean we say
this more than other Good dudes don't.
Speaker 5: Mean you win games. And Pelicans got a lot of
nice guys.
Speaker 10: A lot of nice guys. Man, you know, come Christmas
season like these these are these are real nice guys
to be around during the holidays. But that's about it.
You know. I'd probably say the Saints out of all
them teams only because LSU the situation with them is
you can't really start Dan Buren right.
Speaker 7: Because he would lose his his red shirt.
Speaker 4: Right, He's got I guess one more game, yeah, played
in three right, and.
Speaker 10: Nuts Nut's got that same stuff that Charles Barkley had
in Space Jam. You know.
Speaker 7: It's it's just like.
Speaker 10: I don't know what happened, man, I know that this
guy was good, right, and something. It was the screen passes,
that's what it was.
Speaker 8: The foundation of the offensive structure.
Speaker 6: Is the offensive playbook in the It's built in paper mache.
Speaker 5: That's drawn with a crayon. That's what the foundation is.
Speaker 10: I can't believe that. I mean, I think that this
past game, more than ever, they ran more screens than ever. Dude,
I couldn't believe it, because wouldn't you think that that
would be the first place that got thrown out after
the massive change, like throw that out, ban it statewide,
and it's just like, dude, it was back. It was
back more than ever.
Speaker 5: Devin.
Speaker 6: There are six U flag football teams running more creative
pass concepts.
Speaker 8: I can promise you that absolutely.
Speaker 6: I said that create more levels, more stress on defenders.
Speaker 5: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 10: What I mean, I don't I just don't want to
stay in the drop off with not. It has to
be something about how the offense was assembled this year,
because I mean, I just remember this guy being then not.
Speaker 6: I watched the highlights from last year, Like I saw
him come across the feed a couple of days ago, ax,
and it was like God, the guy was moving in
the pocket, throwing it all over the place. And I
think it's a perfect storm of a lot of different things.
Dev I think it's has a lot to do with
the offense not being set up for success. This year
schematically changing. I don't know what changed from last year
to this year of why they decided to go away
from like a more normal pass concept.
Speaker 5: And then I think the injuries.
Speaker 6: I think they probably overplayed their hand a little bit
with thinking they had a poor offensive line. They're like, oh,
let's change everything up because we're not sure about the
offensive line. And then I think the injury and then
just get beat up a lot. I think it just
got in his head a lot, and it's it's a
hard funk to get out of.
Speaker 5: Got the yips a little.
Speaker 7: Bit, yeah, yeah, you know, and he's just like standing
by the fence, like watching the basketball game, and they're like.
Speaker 10: Oh, you trash, you trash, Like that's the kind of
vibes I'm getting. I mean, dude, it's just like certain
guys that aren't even involved on that was like, I
don't know how they've managed to not get Chris Hilton
involved for so long, you know, And this was a
guy that like had problems, you know, and the priory
is as far as like deep bass jumping too soon,
you know, and then he started picking it up and
it's like, bro, we've barely seen Chris Hilton until he
caught that one ball last last game. I don't remember
the last time I've seen him catch anything. Just not
getting enough, guy, And then they want to keep getting
it to ten and ten keeps fumbling and stopped.
Speaker 8: Dude, he's Johnson syndrome.
Speaker 10: How do you get it to ten more than you
get it to fourteen? Three times more than you get
it to fourteen. I just it's bizarre to me.
Speaker 8: Man, Yeah, it's a Rubik's cube.
Speaker 5: That who's your leader for a coach at LSU?
Speaker 10: Man, it's just looking. I mean I kept saying, I
don't want them to go spend a bazillion dollars without
you know, getting somebody. Everything's point that I'm making a
absolutely massive higher I mean keeps popping up. I mean,
I don't know what those odds, what the worth is
on those, but the odds just keep pointing to them
getting this massive big name like Saban. I don't know, man, Like,
can y'all rule out Saban?
Speaker 6: I mean not from when the odds jump from seventy
five to one to two to one overnight yesterday.
Speaker 10: How crazy would that be?
Speaker 6: That many bats ain't coming in to change the odds
that much? Odds makers are.
Speaker 10: Changing that, right, So I mean, we're back if that happened,
We're so back, dude. And you know, and then what
is he's like, what does next year look like? If
somebody like that comes in, you know, who would be
your quarterback? And it's just so many questions that I
have about LSU football man. Alin Barry looks promising Now I.
Speaker 4: Will for sure, no, no, no, he he is the
real deal. I cannot wait to see where his career
ends up going. Uh. He is playing way way above
a freshman level and some of the things that he's
doing at the running back position. So all right, hey,
it's always uh, you know, it's always the darkest before
the dawn.
Speaker 8: He'll get better. It has to get better. There's a
lot of other ways to go.
Speaker 10: And then what weeks is I mean, he obviously hasn't
played that much, but this wouldn't be his last year, right, he.
Speaker 8: Has another year if he wants to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has another year where he could he could
come back, and you know, got a brother on the team.
Speaker 8: Still West will be gone, but Zach will still be here.
Speaker 4: And his draft stock probably not as high as where
it should be because of the injury.
Speaker 5: So yeah, he has an option.
Speaker 4: So the next head he's one of the first things
he's got to do is try to talk with Weeks
into coming back facts. Well, yeah, man, are your are
your house phones not working?
Speaker 5: There? Dev? Cell phones sounding good? That's a big loss. Yeah,
big loss.
Speaker 10: It's the only thing that's ran by cock.
Speaker 5: So go figure.
Speaker 10: Merry Christmas the lass I'm learning here.
Speaker 5: All right, Dev.
Speaker 8: We love you, brother, We appreciate time as always.
Speaker 5: We'll catch up next week.
Speaker 10: All right, y'all, take care.
Speaker 5: Your landline is not working at your day? You know
something is not your day. It's not your day, it's
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Speaker 3: The bench, from the locker room to the airwaves.
Speaker 1: Gets off the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: I was gonna after the show, I was gonna call
and get a landline. But now with the way that
is working, I don't think so I'll just stick to
the cell phone.
Speaker 6: Yeah, could you just thus more wires in the walls
of my house?
Speaker 5: I need a phone.
Speaker 4: It is kind of wild to think about not one
person you know outside of dev has a house phone,
not one person.
Speaker 6: Are you wired internet at your house for your show?
Because you do your show, You're after any show from
so you got to be wired right.
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I ain't relying on the we're wired bo Yeah,
got the fiber that WiFi got through the air through
our bodies, freaky.
Speaker 5: With that mustache. I don't know that you want to
have conspiracy theories right now? You ever heard of kim trails?
Speaker 9: You ever heard of COVID vaccines, com.
Speaker 5: Vaccines, the correlation with.
Speaker 6: You did say that that you did to a medical doctor.
He was like, it's kind of quick, he said, He said, absolutely, Yeah,
we prove me wrong.
Speaker 5: Yeah, where's the study.
Speaker 9: Trying to prove it to me that COVID vaccines aren't causing?
Speaker 5: Is there a study that says it doesn't calls achilles.
Speaker 9: Tears, just saying maybe popping up.
Speaker 5: Maybe it was that booster shout.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they started popping up after twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Call Aaron, prove it. Aaron will
have an answer.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, but he he didn't. He got his
achilles torn so that might be though.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah he didn't. Well I'm not.
Speaker 6: It's not impossible to have without the without the vaccine,
you can.
Speaker 5: Still do it. Yeah, it's crazy, exactly quadruples Odd's.
Speaker 9: Probably Is he on your QB rankings or no?
Speaker 2: No, let's get started because he only got me.
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Speaker 6: Let's go through the best ten quarterbacks in the National
Football League aka the World. Week eleven NFL Quarterback Race.
Number ten, he's going to stay the same from last week.
My next three, Ye're going to be right at the
same because they didn't do anything necessarily bad. They didn't
do anything necessarily crazy. Lamar Jackson coming at number ten.
He's been injured for we're holding out. I'm like, wait
and see with him. Is he going to get back
to MVP form? They beat Minnesota twenty seven to nineteen.
Had a good game. I wouldn't say a great game.
Every time I watched, like I would stop and watch
that game for a little bit. It seems like he
was running for his life or getting sacked something like that,
but ended up with a good stat line. They win
the game, So he's not falling out and he's not moving.
Speaker 5: Up just yet. But let's wait and see on that.
Speaker 6: At number nine, Indiana Jones, they win thirty one to
twenty five. I'm beginning to soften on Daniel Jones a
little bit. He came out super hot. Everybody talking about
MVP MVPMVP. And don't get me wrong, he's playing great,
executing the offense well. But their running back is really
carrying that team. It's not necessarily the quarterback. So Daniel
Joe staying in that top ten because they are so good.
He is playing so well, he has revived his career.
Number nine Daniel Jones. Number eight Taite's guy. Baker Mayfield
staying the same from loud. They lost against New England.
I didn't punish him too much. He still played good
for two hundred and seventy three yards three touchdowns. Baker's
a guy. I can't not see the beginning of this
season just yet. So hey hadn't moved up, staying the
same right there. Number eight, Number seven, big movement here.
Hold on to your chairs, people, hold on to your shirts.
Josh Allen dropping four spots out of the top five,
the number seven Josh Allen, Who are you? I love
you man. You're awesome. You do things that no one's
ever done. You are an absolute alien. You are a
free You can do things that nobody can do. But
guess what he's on the top five list of quarterbacks
in any major passing categories.
Speaker 5: This season.
Speaker 6: There's six and three, but there are four wins this
season came against the Jets, the Dolphins, the Saints, and
the Panthers. Think about that. The Bills, those are their
four wins this season. So you drop out of the
top five because it just seems like everything is beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.
But then there's just things that you do that you've
been doing it for years and it doesn't seem to change.
There's just some head scratching moments. So you drop four
spots to number seven out of the top five. Number
six Jared Goff. They beat the Comedies forty four to
twenty two. He gets to move up this list two
spots two, Number six. Hard to keep him out of
the top five right now, but because I was surprised
when I started looking at the stats and the numbers
of quarterbacks. He's number one in completion percentage of seventy two,
number four in yards per yards per completion. These number
two in touchdown passes, number one passer rating in the
NFL twenty touchdowns, three interceptions. Lions are six and three.
Hard to keep them out of the top five, but
I did it because at number five, Sam Donald, they
beat the Cardinals forty four to twenty two, the same
score as Lions over the Commies. Sam Donald number two
in the PFF pass are grade number one and yards
per a tempt top five in most every other passing
category in the NFL, only through twelve passes this past week,
because they didn't really need to.
Speaker 5: They're on.
Speaker 6: He's on probably one of the best teams in the NFL,
if not the best. Sam Donald breaking that top five
and the number four a second you play up out
of New England, Drake, may they beat the Bucks. The
guy's playing great. My guy's playing some people poking holes
in his game a little bit. But he moves up
from number six into the top five, number four, number
two in depletion percentage at sixty nine point seven.
Speaker 5: This is after.
Speaker 6: Only being fifty two percent completion of this past week.
He's still almost at seventy for the season, number two
in the NFL in yards, number two in yards per attempt,
nineteen touchdowns, the five interceptions, all while being sacked the
second most in the NFL at thirty.
Speaker 8: Six sacks on the season, it was first, Justin Herbert.
Speaker 5: Now he's third.
Speaker 6: Actually our guy cam over in Tennessee.
Speaker 5: That makes sense.
Speaker 6: Number three, Justin Herbert, he gets the he's moving up
one from number four because Josh allen felso they'd be
of course they'd be the Steelers Herbert thirty three sacks,
only cam Ward and Drake may have been sacked more.
Speaker 5: Because how about that clip.
Speaker 6: I sent clip is umblay on the back of the
show talking about all the offensive lineman.
Speaker 4: Every offensive lineman he has is either dead last or
next to last in proof of all focus grade from
left to right, everybody.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 6: And he's not leading any leading any like major passing
stats in the NFL third and passing yards tied for
third for most tds, but like all while doing this
with anemic offensive line, and it's just it's just just
watch it. You could tell he's the best or the
third best. Number two, Patrick Mahomes. They're on a bye
week this week, it's Patrick Mahomes. I don't really need
to explain anything else. He's not leading in hardly any categories.
It don't matter. It's Patrick freaking Mahomes. He's going to
be number two. But guess what, he's not the best
quarterback in the NFL right this second. No, I think
he is, because that title, that crown belongs to the
King himself. Matthew Stafford. This guy they beat the Niners
in the last three games thirteen touchdowns to zero interceptions.
On the season, twenty five touchdowns, two interceptions. Number one
in the PFF Passer Grade most TD passes in the
NFL actually has five more TD passes than number two
on that list. He's got twenty five TD passes on
the season. Number two on that list has twenty. Watch
him play playing from having a great career, he's playing
the best football he's ever played in his career. He's
got targets, he's got the team around him, He's got
everything you need and it is a beautiful thing to
watch Matthew Stafford play tackle football right the second. So,
Matthew Stafford, he's the top top dog.
Speaker 5: I like your list and good list. Thank you. There's
some bubble guys. Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 6: I still trying to find a reason to put him
on there, because everybody is that one guy in ESPN
says he's top five and he's not five.
Speaker 5: Well he's not. He's not top ten years.
Speaker 6: That's hard. It's a tough list to make it. You
can make an argument for top five for all of
these guys. You can make a top five for some
of the bubble guys out there. You can make an
argument Jordan Love you fell.
Speaker 5: Out of the bubble. Yeah, out of there, Bud that
performing bubble pop.
Speaker 8: It's at the offense, not on his fault, but a
place where you don't need to be. It's like next
to LSU's on them anyway.
Speaker 6: And the chat let us know your thoughts will be
post and at some point on the ESPN Instagram, So
give us your thoughts, give us a little feedback on it.
It's all argumentative, all subjective to y'all. It's facts for
everybody else.
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