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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to Travis told

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you November twenty seven, Thursday, two thousand, twenty five. Oh

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my god, broad and throw it right away. That's a

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good sign. All it feels like it's there, so I

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hang on, let's all that comet of it. But yeah,

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my name is Tres Now this is the not by week.

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I don't even know. I guess there's two times a

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week type of show that I do here for twenty

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twenty five. I'll probably do it for a little bit

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maybe from January. Get them some downtime. Then I'll do

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the survey to see if people are like it. But

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let's not waste too much time. Let's kill this music here,

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big shot. To everybody in America who is celevering Thanksgiving,

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if you're listening slive or the day after, I hope

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you get a day off. I hope you get some

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time with the family and get to eat some good food.

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Obviously in Canada we have ours in October, so I

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hope you're enjoying that watching some football. I'm currently watching

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her in the background. You got the Packers. Hopefully that's

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not Jenson is about to be the Lions but I

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don't know, you never know. Lines are tricky, but yes,

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and today we're here to talk about Stranger Things five

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season five. Also a voice cracking there, so that's great.

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Five season five, Volume one. So that's what they're doing

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releasing this. As I've said before too, I was singing

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about joining, but because he's got baby on the way,

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he thought he's not giving me their last episode. So

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you know, I digress. So it'll be be I'll be

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I'm hoping we get that, so TVD. But as far

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as ting your things to get ready, I rewatched the

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entire show. I don't think I'd watched many of the

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seasons other than season one multiple times just because it

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that bad. I don't think there's a single season. I

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it for enjoyment. Obviously, when you're not reviewing things, you

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not picking apart. But no, this show is great. Season

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ending story. I was talked them about this with Mike yessay,

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like the moment just in the place when of hey,

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there for a top ten show, I guess for me personally,

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where it just obviously became a phenomenon. So it spoke

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sometimes it does feel like a movie. And I know

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somebody being cross rounds go, well, you know this is TV.

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like like TV has changed. And I'm not saying something

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simple as like mash or even breaking beat, right, not

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breaking bad simple, but as far as there's never a

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set of a thousand people running with swords and sandals

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people were getting nostalgic for the eighties. But I still

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think this is the best version of that. I think

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this happened and we have saw so many just kind

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this is they do need to stick to landing, right,

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that case. I think that's the right amount for most shows. Right.

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like left right when it needed to. And obviously Stranger

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because the nature. That's because the schedules, all that stuff,

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and that's never bugged me. It's never bugging out. The

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kids getting old the sis Harry Parks like, so they

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with their high school backpack sometimes? Sure? But whatever, it's fiction.

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year olds were playing sixteen year olds. Right, Like, we're

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in a much better off state. So love the show.

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I've kind of been staying away from them. I've seen

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a few things, right, because it's been everywhere, but so

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be tough because it's one of those things that we're

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so used. Other than last year they did split in

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a two, but we've got the whole season, so to me,

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giving lots of moments to the characters we've known. They've

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just like every other show. So that's why i'd say

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what we're doing. So no, I think if you are

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show as right now, these four episodes are you know, fine,

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not fine, but I mean like you're good, like you

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end zone. You can drop the ball right before you

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get in the end zone, right We've seen that with

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countless of big shows. I have faith they're gonna do it,

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you're going to war right away, and not really. There's

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till we get there, right, So yeah, as right now,

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that's my non supports thought. I gotta give you a second.

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If you want to get away, I guess I could

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take an ad break right here, which I'll do, and

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we're back, okay, full into spoilers. So that's why I

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was talking about where last season ended with the earthquake

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and the world's part, and they did say it was

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just an earthquake, right, But at the end, Elle's looking

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up at the sky. It's red, there's lightning everywhere, there's

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like dragons, not actually right, but it just looks like

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it looks like hell has literally opened up here in

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Hawkins right where you know when we pick up, Not really,

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I think like people are still going to school. They're

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under quarantine for sure, So life is different, but they're

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still like going to school. There's still like little kids

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are planning play dates and sleepovers. That was kind of

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I won't say negative, because I think we're getting into

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the thick of things right away, and it feels like

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we're gonna escalate to that point. But it kind of

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felt like with the last seasons, it's always hey, a

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few characters know what's going on, and then more and

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more learn about right, and then at the end of

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the season four it kind of felt like, oh, everyone's

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gonna know about it, and it's just you know, the

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door hinges are off where they did do that thing

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where they pull back, go no, we don't want to

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get into that right away. I kind of understand. I

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feel like, what we're an episode four when this ends,

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there's three more, I think it is, even though like

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episode two or the finale is like two hours, right,

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so it's almost like two episodes together, so let's just

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say we're halfway. Kind of feels like we're going to

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that point, but I don't know if Forever even got

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to get to that point where like everybody knows right

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still might just be a crisis or an earthquake, which

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I was kind of hoping wasn't the case. But that's fine.

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That's not a be all end all for me. So

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that happened. We pick up with our characters. I really

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like what they got going off Robin. She's his DJ host,

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but she's because the characters are working on the governments there.

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They've shut down really like this aspect where they have

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government people actually in the upside down with labs set

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up one. I gotta think that has to be like

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the worst job, Like I hope you're getting paid well

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and great benefits. Imagine if your job is not only

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to like it's bad enough, like, hey, you know where

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these beasts are coming from and all this crazy sci

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fi magical shit, Yeah, you're gonna work around it. You're

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working in it. You're going through this hole and working

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in it. And that's where we've got to the point

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where now the government's going in there trying to I

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think we don't know exactly the folks into what they're doing,

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but they're doing government stuff, right, And that's something kind

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of like the Russian story. Yeah, the Russian Russian storyline

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from last season where I didn't hate it, but the

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problem with the storyline was you never thought Hopper was

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not gonna be found and he was not gonna get back, right,

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So there was never any real intrigue there of like, oh,

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what's gonna happen. It just kind of felt like we

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need something for Hopper and Joyce to do this season.

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We can't have them with the kids, or don't want

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them with the kids. Let's do this right. So this

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doesn't feel like that per se, but it just was

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with even though it's you know, still seven you know,

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eight nine hours whatever, let's just say nine hours, you know,

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rounding out with some minute half an hours, fifteen and whatnot.

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Let's say it's nine hours of content. That's still not

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a lot of time with the amount of characters we have.

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We have so many characters now, and that's the thing

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we're talking about our discord about who could die, et cetera,

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that type of stuff. I really don't need anyone to die,

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right I'm somebody I think it was Finn Wolfard or

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somebody that said, oh, you know, our show's not like

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Game of Thrones. I wish we kind of have some

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bigger moments are lost up here for that shock value.

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And for me, I'm not saying people can't die in

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a show like look at Dexter. That was huge, but

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I've also seen or Game of Thrones. There's two things

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Game of Thrones. One sometimes it felt like too much

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like shock value, and two I kind of got disengaged

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from the show because for a while, I feel like

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almost every character that was my favorite was going right.

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So it's like, there's certain characters I feel like had

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more meat on the bone, and I get that's the

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idea of a shock death, but to the point where

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it felt like it was hurting the story right. I

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think Game of Thrones recovered, but there's still some things

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I go about and say. Thing with Dexter. When that,

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I'll just say that big death happens in that show.

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I thought, oh, this is going to change the show.

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This is going to guess on a new wave length,

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this is gonna be right, And this happens for a

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lot of shows, but I'm just using shows that I love.

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Nothing changed with that show, and it actually got worse,

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and the death kind of created a few holes where

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it's like, well, this doesn't work, this doesn't work. So

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I've seen it before where shows the death can hurt

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them other than you're getting that big moment of trending.

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Oh my god, you can't believe in Like, look at

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Eddie Dyan last year. Great scene, but that and sure

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I would have loved Eddie stick around. But I agree

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with that character death. And as we're in full spoilers,

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I don't even think they're dead because they're like, well,

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she's recovering, he's in a coma. But when we were

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losing Nancy and Mike's parents, I'm like, these are kind

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of the deaths I want, Like, I don't really want

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to lose any of the main kids. I'm not opposed.

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That's not my personal feelings of character is not gonna

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make me an f right, Like if they kill eleven,

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I'm like, oh, that's a fail season. It's not purpose season. No,

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they can do that. I'm just saying, these kids have

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been through the shit since will I when missing. They've

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not like that's where people go, Oh if they all survive,

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I can see. Oh they all survived all these years.

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Some of the got through it. It's like one they

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lost multiple people that they were friends with, right a

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Barb and Eddie whatever, Bob right I think his name

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was Shawn Assen's character, Like they've lost people they care about,

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and that's just fucking still childhood trauma. Like you could

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not go through all that and still be like, man,

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life's great. Hey. So for me, it's like these people

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have been through enough. And there's a moment where Mike's

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talking about which I'm worried him. Eleven are talking about,

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Oh is very lord of the Rings, right right, Lord

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of the Ring, right, Lord of the Rings? Like right,

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he's talking about D and D, which I don't play.

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But the idea of you know, usually have to request

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too much has gone on for the characters and they

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don't go back much like Frodo in Return of the King. Right,

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he can't go back to the Shire, which just things

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have changed, he seemed too much. And he's kind of saying,

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but they kind of go to this like magical place

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with waterfalls. He said, we might not have the waterfalls,

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but we could have that magical place of us being

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together finally happy. And that's the same thing like what

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eleven maybe got one year of happiness. I don't know

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the time between season two and three. I think it's

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a year, if not, you know, whatever, that time Aloge

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because even season two, sure she's alive and not being

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hunted the whole time, but her and Hap have a

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tension fit relationship, and she's also lying, you know, not

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being around a friends. She wants to be around her

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friends where she's not happy, where at least season three

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for a little bit before you know, they start fighting,

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like she's in love with Mike. She has friends at

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the school, they have a good friends group wearing season four,

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she's getting bullied right season three she becomes friends with Maxine,

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had that great scene where they go shopping. So it's like,

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I don't want her to die per se, Right, I

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think with this and the show so far which they're going,

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it's I'm still out of fifty to fifty deadlock. I

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think if anyone's gonna be dying, it was gonna be

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hurt and I because I thought it was her Hopper,

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I don't think it's both of them. But you know,

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I saw on this score, Mike did give out a

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good point that even though we did or we did

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just get that kind of fake death in season three,

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would they actually kill them. I don't know, And I

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could see the whole thing where it's some sort of

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gimmick where all we can't close that it's tough because like, oh,

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we can't close this down out eleven dying. But they

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kind of did that in the first one, right, I

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would almost kind of like a fake out death and

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you think that's it and she is alive. Some people

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might not like that, and not even like season one

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where it's like, oh, so many years fin like right

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away it's like, oh, we're we're there, right, And that's

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the problem where a lot of characters have had a

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fake death moment. So I'm completely fine with them and

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going into that, and I guess I will get back

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to Robin, but with Will and how this ended. He

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pretty much has like eleven like powers. He's feeling the

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bumps as he has the other seasons. But we literally

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see in this one where he starts to see through

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the Demigorn's eyes, he's starting to stop them, and then

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the one of I guess it was the last scene

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of this volume, he lifts them up and breaks the

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arm and kills them like Vecna's doing the other ones, right,

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And that to me all makes sense. He wasn't experimented

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on a lab, but the way Vecna's putting stuff into children,

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which is that flashback, Sure he got some iffyd aging.

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But flashback where Vecna's chasing Will and he gets them

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down and he puts like that thing in his mouth

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and it's like putting whatever in there, and it's Will's

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like a little little kid, really fucking gross like deserving stuff.

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Like it's the visual of it being a little kid

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like man like this is. And that's something where Vecna

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is like a Freddy Kuger like right, And that's why

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it makes it more scary or more disturbing because he's

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going out for children's you know, and teens, but children

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as well, so it's sticks with you. It's gross stuff.

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And to me that all works. Where they're telepathically linked,

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Vecna has put a little of himself in him, so

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he gets those paws like that all works for me,

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like it all to me, that all tracks. It's kind

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of like Vecna's like baking his cake and eating it too.

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Like he's sharing his gifts or skills or powers with

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people so he can do these things. But you can't

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just expect them not to get this stuff right in

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this whatever world the upside down, So all that works

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fine with me. Will have powers works fine. When Will

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was getting those powers they gave him this massive kind

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of montage of seeing friends and classic stranger things stuff right,

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like channeling the people who care about the moments you

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care about. It's his mom, it's Jonathan, who I could

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not remember his name forever last night for a while,

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it's it's Mike all that stuff right, and he's seeing

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those powers. To me, I don't think he dies because

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that montage was death montage that like that acted the

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same way as if you're saying goodbye to a character

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and that didn't happen very much like Sadie sings, you know,

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running up that hill one where she's running and you

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see everything with oh god why. I also forgot his

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name to her boyfriend I can't remember there. But so

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I don't think Will's dying, Eve though I thought Will

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was gonna die when this show started. I thought it

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was gonna happen and and so far now and I'm

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liking the story of he's using Robin. It's kind of

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a con to it because obviously they revealed last season

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that he is gay. Obviously Mike is not gay. So

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I gotta pull up because that's spugging me about the

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name for Caleb there, but he is not gay. But

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it's this thing of he saw Robin with her girlfriend

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and then she kind of noticed, like, oh, he's not

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just like watching because he's a young boy or curious

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in that way. He's watching because like that's something he

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longs for. Lucas, my god, that's something he's longing for, right,

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And she gives him this pep talk and they use it.

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So I liked it. I like that as far as

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embracing herself that led to him getting these powers and

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among other things too, right, but I'm completely fine with

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him having the powers. It tracks for what they've set

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up in the show so far. I think it will

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be funny because it kind of gives him a purpose,

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which at times will has I think retroactively. They're doing

470
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,680
a lot of flashbacks, which is good. Like even Vecna

471
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,079
in this episode says like, oh, the reason I used

472
00:21:18,079 --> 00:21:19,480
you and the reason it works so well is because

473
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,519
you're super weak. And they show a bunch of stuff

474
00:21:21,559 --> 00:21:24,480
in season two where he's ripping up photos because they

475
00:21:24,559 --> 00:21:26,079
kind of did the storyline where a lot of the

476
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,400
other friends had their own thing going on, right, They

477
00:21:28,559 --> 00:21:31,880
like Dustin and Lucas were interested in Max. Mike was

478
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,720
trying to find Elle all the stuff, right, he and

479
00:21:34,759 --> 00:21:37,119
his brother had Nancy. All this stuff was going on,

480
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,720
and he was kind of lost. So it makes sense.

481
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,000
And also he was, yeah, not suffering, but in suffering

482
00:21:43,079 --> 00:21:45,079
a way as far as not being able to reveal

483
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,119
his true intentions about who his self is as far

484
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,920
as being gay. Right, So that's the thing where it's like,

485
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,279
it's not that he's weak, it's kind of that thing

486
00:21:51,319 --> 00:21:53,119
of if you have something to fear or if you're scared,

487
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,119
and that's what he was. He had a lot of

488
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,160
that stuff going on where the others were a bit

489
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,680
more confident because of the situation. So but that's why

490
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,240
I like the flip, right, because is using that weakness

491
00:22:01,279 --> 00:22:03,319
against some but then he gets to use that weakness

492
00:22:03,319 --> 00:22:05,480
against Vectna as far as oh you picked me, you

493
00:22:05,519 --> 00:22:07,559
gave me this stuff, well, too bad, I get to

494
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,000
use this, So I think it gives him some purpose.

495
00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:10,720
I think it also helps as far as the good

496
00:22:10,759 --> 00:22:13,880
guy's winning, and that's what it's saying. So I really

497
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,839
think that if like right now, I think for kids,

498
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,279
they could go full and just kill a bunch of people, right,

499
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,799
I hope they don't. I don't think that's deserving this show,

500
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,240
I think, because that's the thing where even with Game

501
00:22:25,279 --> 00:22:27,599
of Thrones, all those characters were adults, so they still

502
00:22:28,039 --> 00:22:31,480
had a life. When for battles that they won, got drunk,

503
00:22:31,519 --> 00:22:33,799
fucked men, fucked women, all this stuff. A lot of

504
00:22:33,839 --> 00:22:37,319
these characters were like what eight to sixteen, like, their

505
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,319
lives has not started. They've had a shit life. That's

506
00:22:39,319 --> 00:22:41,400
why I thought Harper could go. But you know, as

507
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,480
we talked about the discord, yeah, maybe not, because they've

508
00:22:43,519 --> 00:22:46,079
kind of already done that recently in the show's history. Right,

509
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,160
So I still worry for Elle. I still worry it'll

510
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,160
be some sort of you know, Vecna exists and he

511
00:22:52,319 --> 00:22:54,519
exists so or she exists at the same time, so

512
00:22:54,519 --> 00:22:57,160
they got to go together. I want her to get happy.

513
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,720
I want her to be happy. I like her motivation

514
00:22:59,799 --> 00:23:01,799
this season two because there's a lot of seasons where

515
00:23:01,839 --> 00:23:04,680
she's been quiet, or even season four, right, she kind

516
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,319
of regressed and that was the point in the story.

517
00:23:06,319 --> 00:23:08,839
But she kind of regressed that she lost her powers

518
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,319
and she was being bullied and lost. Not this wel

519
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,240
she's determined. She wants to go and fight. She's practicing

520
00:23:14,279 --> 00:23:16,640
every day too much. She's wanting to get out there

521
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,200
so much. She's kind of maybe lying to Hopper, maybe not.

522
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,079
I think they did reveal that Hopper was lying that

523
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,119
she didn't. She did actually beat the time. But this thing,

524
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,720
as far as she wants to go out there fight,

525
00:23:25,799 --> 00:23:28,599
it's no more of oh, is Vecna gonna get me?

526
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,240
She wants to get Vecna. When they go the upside down,

527
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,480
her and Hopper, they well, they both go separately, but

528
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,200
they meet together. She just wants to kill them. She

529
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,400
wants to kill Vechna, but not Hopper like Vecna, like

530
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,079
she is out for blood. Right, So I like this motivation,

531
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,319
and it's kind of this thing of your whole life

532
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,599
has been you know, off see other people, Popa, all

533
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,079
the other fucking science people. But her whole life has

534
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,759
been engineered and messed up by specifically, you know, like

535
00:23:56,799 --> 00:23:59,640
the last few years Vecna. Right. So to me, this

536
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,039
makes it I like current Hopper back together. I like

537
00:24:02,079 --> 00:24:04,079
that they did that right away, right, because that's the

538
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,839
other dynamic she has closely next to Mike. So obviously

539
00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:10,640
we didn't get that all of season four. They are separated.

540
00:24:10,839 --> 00:24:13,599
Broom put them back together, and they stuff great chemistry.

541
00:24:13,839 --> 00:24:15,960
A great father and daughter but kind of soldier. At

542
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,359
the same time, they're talking about Harbor and they're like,

543
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,680
you know, him losing his daughter and him fully giving

544
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,839
that story to l now about why he's so protective

545
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,759
of her and whatnot. So all that stuff is good.

546
00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:29,759
Working the military stuff and they experience like like, I

547
00:24:29,839 --> 00:24:32,559
love a little of Hamilton, but when we're it's only

548
00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:34,519
a quick scene, right, But when we're going into this

549
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,559
lab and she's cut things open and they're talking about

550
00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:39,880
things and military stuff, I'll have seen the seasons done.

551
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,880
Like to me, I really think like, even like it's tough,

552
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,319
because it's still well written. That's why, even like the

553
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,759
Russia stuff, it's always well written. So it's never like,

554
00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:52,200
oh I don't enjoy this and it's poorly written, so

555
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,440
big time strike against the show. Right, It's not it's

556
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,319
like when he has to deterrogate that guy, he sits

557
00:24:57,319 --> 00:24:59,039
down l and it's about five minute scene of why

558
00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:01,799
the guy won't give him For me, it is well written.

559
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,920
It's just that I'm not too interested in the army

560
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,119
stuff because we have so much of it. Right, If

561
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,400
they're just there as bad guys hunting them down, great,

562
00:25:08,519 --> 00:25:10,640
I kind of hope because what happens to the end

563
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,359
this is Vecna popped out and I don't know what's happening.

564
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,839
I guess because the base was going on at one

565
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,759
point they almost insinuated that the army was keeping Vecna. Now,

566
00:25:20,799 --> 00:25:22,599
don't get me wrong, I get it, we'll get to

567
00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:24,839
the imaginary friend thing. I get it that. It's like, oh,

568
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,519
Vecna can find a different way to get out and

569
00:25:26,519 --> 00:25:28,519
do all these things. I don't know. I still like

570
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,200
to imagine that Vecna is so powerful that he's not

571
00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:34,680
like being withheld by the eighties American government, right, or

572
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,079
even I guess our government. Like there shouldn't be something

573
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,920
where it's like we've locked him that should be saved

574
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,119
for l Will and some of maybe the other characters

575
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,640
we're gonna talk about, right, that could have some similar powers.

576
00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:47,759
So to me, when that subplot was going like, oh,

577
00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:49,640
they got him locked up, it's like, I don't even

578
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,400
know Vecna locked up in a thing, and that seems

579
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,480
like it's gone. Seems like he's out messing around and

580
00:25:54,519 --> 00:25:57,480
that's fine. I just feel like, Okay, he came out

581
00:25:57,519 --> 00:26:01,200
of this portal killed a bunch of people. Don't know

582
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,680
why he didn't kill Joyce, like complete plot armor, right,

583
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,960
he goes there, He's pulling pins from grenades, he's throwing

584
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,079
fire people. There's this great shot of his guard's climbing

585
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,200
and then boom, like his claw goes right through his face.

586
00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:17,279
Really disturbing stuff, but it's this thing of he's wrecking

587
00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:20,160
shop to everybody, and arguably other than the guns, Joyce

588
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,000
runs up, like you leave my son alone and you

589
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,960
just force pushes her away, right, Arguably, if you're wanting

590
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,359
Will to be super weak, you would probably take her

591
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,359
out right because that would mess him up. Maybe the

592
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,319
ideas you don't want to because I would fire him up.

593
00:26:31,319 --> 00:26:34,160
But still just feels like why do our characters, the

594
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,720
band characters only get force push but they have everybody

595
00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:38,720
else And I know why, right, But it's just like

596
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:42,079
from a point in of view of the show, I

597
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,640
wish maybe he would just kill like a couple of

598
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,160
people off the bat and then force push a bunch

599
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,319
of guards away. But you know, back to the original

600
00:26:47,319 --> 00:26:51,359
point him doing all that, and then Linda Hamilton was

601
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,680
like like, this is this thing where it's like I

602
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,240
don't know if I need the dynamics of her being

603
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,839
like I'm looking for you, because I thought I was

604
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,720
very happy that I know they did this with Oh god,

605
00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:04,799
Paul Wiser right when he was like on the eleven

606
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:07,079
good side. I think he's dead. Now maybe I'm wrong,

607
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,160
soone canna let me know. But when she's like eleven

608
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,480
and Lena Hamilton bump into each other because they have

609
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:15,880
these like sonic wave things that create, you know, stop

610
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,599
ELL's power. So she stopped for a little bit this

611
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,720
upside down the Army camp, She's like, oh, I've been

612
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,599
looking for you. And the way she said it, I

613
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,160
was like, oh good, it's literally just gonna be like, hey,

614
00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:27,839
we fucked up, We're cleaning up, we're gonna end this all.

615
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,240
We need your help to stop it, and like no twist,

616
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,319
no turns on nothing, but nah. She starts threatening al

617
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,319
and then her and David Harbor, which have a fun

618
00:27:35,319 --> 00:27:36,960
fight scene but have a fight scene, said something like

619
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,680
I don't need the Army as that an imposing man

620
00:27:39,799 --> 00:27:42,359
like like and I'm even fine with them our main

621
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,480
character sneaking around doing this stuff. I like back to Robin,

622
00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:47,880
as I said at the beginning of this cast, I like

623
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,839
Robin's as this radio show host who's because they are

624
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,160
all working together, but they don't always want to be together,

625
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,039
so people don't know what they're up to because obviously

626
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:57,119
they have a history at the government. So she's sending

627
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,359
like like secret she'll play Diana song and give people

628
00:28:01,519 --> 00:28:04,480
of Hawkins facts about the song, but she's dropping numbers,

629
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,240
so it's coordinates or whatever it may be. Right, that's great,

630
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,880
and I'm fine with that. At the beginning, I kind

631
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,279
of wish and that's what I'm hoping. So that's when

632
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,319
I'm waiting to see that this point where Vecna just

633
00:28:13,319 --> 00:28:17,640
fucked up everybody, like Team Stranger Things Kids and Team Army,

634
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,960
where they're just like, you know what, enough bullshit, let's

635
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,440
stop lying, Let's stop having to sneak around, Let's stop

636
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,519
having to be like, oh, they're gonna kill you, l like,

637
00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:27,240
just drop all that. That's kind of what my hope

638
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:29,240
was going to be where I always understood the other

639
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:32,160
seasons where they did this stuff the upside down. They're

640
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,640
trying to contain it. They don't want to get out,

641
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,279
so we got to catch eleven at our friends because

642
00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:36,559
we don't want to get up, and then it's gonna

643
00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:39,759
fuck everything up, right, last season, when the whole sky's

644
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,839
red and everything's going to shit. That's where I thought

645
00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:43,279
it would kind of go away, because we like, oh,

646
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:46,480
we just have to work together because now Armageddon is

647
00:28:46,519 --> 00:28:48,799
here and we haven't got to that place yet, and

648
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:52,200
I'm hoping we do. I'm hoping with the small little

649
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,519
hopisms they showed Linda Hamilton, that is just gonna be okay,

650
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,759
let's use all your resources, our resources. That's it. Vecna

651
00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:02,319
is going to kill us, he's shaking our children. He's

652
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:04,759
just throwing more demogrons than ever. Let's get out there.

653
00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:06,079
So that's where for me, it's way and see the

654
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,279
army stuff. If it is just more of the rest

655
00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:11,079
of the season and than after our friends. We've done

656
00:29:11,119 --> 00:29:13,279
this every year, even in the first season. If it's

657
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:16,720
the cops, like every year it's an authority versus the kids,

658
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:20,039
like it's my complain with Mission impossible. How many times

659
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,200
can Ethan Hunt get framed and then be like it

660
00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:25,960
must have been an Ethan Hunt, Like after the sixth time,

661
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:29,079
you might go, you know what, he's probably didn't do it.

662
00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:33,319
Everyone keeps framing him and guess what, He's never the

663
00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:35,720
bad guy. I do appreciate it one movie they did

664
00:29:35,759 --> 00:29:38,000
do the whole Like, you know, he's been framed so

665
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,359
many times and we've believed that maybe he's pissed off, right,

666
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,319
but I'm I'm kind of with done with that, so

667
00:29:43,359 --> 00:29:45,480
it's my week. It's kind of like My Russia this season,

668
00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:47,519
right where it's like the army stuff. I don't need it,

669
00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:50,039
it's not there much, but if so many characters still

670
00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:51,839
would rather give it to other people's time when we're

671
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:58,200
saying goodbye to them here, right, So we'll see. Sorry,

672
00:29:58,839 --> 00:30:01,039
audio listeners, I took a I should have warned you,

673
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,119
but at least it's keep you on your toes because

674
00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:05,240
for a second you stopped you like, did my music stop?

675
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:10,000
Did my iPad? Sock? It's just me drinking. So we'll

676
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,519
see with that. But all the eleven stuff good so far.

677
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:14,880
I only had the one scene with Mike, So that's

678
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,000
another reason why I'm thinking that she could survive, right

679
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:19,359
her micro spend too much time together. Yeah, like my

680
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,400
pink hat here, Victoria's secret sand hat one of my favorites.

681
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,160
Also just because like messy hair day for your boy.

682
00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:30,200
So what's another thing? Oh, so the imaginary friend thing.

683
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:33,319
So this is where it's tough when these characters have

684
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,279
been through it. I had seen this before. I guess

685
00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:37,480
this was the trailer and I saw people being It

686
00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:40,519
was on my timeline of like this fucking guy better

687
00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:43,759
not be vecnam. I'm completely fine. The story makes sense.

688
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,319
Kids have imaginary friends. This is another way to get

689
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:48,240
to them. Good for the actor getting more faced. Some

690
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,880
theme too, doesn't have to be covered in the makeup

691
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,160
and ky jelly, which I learned, So you know, that's interesting.

692
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,160
But so I'm five all that. It's a good trope.

693
00:30:56,319 --> 00:30:59,440
I think the only thing for me was I feel

694
00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:02,759
like it's it's not an overall because they give Mike

695
00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:04,480
a great moment where he's planning one and he seems

696
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,680
like him and Nancy are almost it's like him, Nancy,

697
00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:09,599
Joyce and Hopper our team captains, you know. So I

698
00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:13,400
like that. But when he sits down with his sister

699
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,240
Holly right, which I always that's why I do love

700
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:18,119
about the shows. These kid actors get older and they

701
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,559
get a little better, and like, yeah, you get a screen.

702
00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:21,000
Now we get to put you through lots of stuff,

703
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:24,400
and it's smart to use Holly right. She's seeing imagine

704
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,640
my friend that reveals to be Vecna. That's the two

705
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,759
things where he's it's mister God. I can't remember the name,

706
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:35,559
but he like he's telling Holly about, oh, I'll save

707
00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:37,559
you from the monsters that are coming, and she tells

708
00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:40,000
us the mic like I got this. It's not mister

709
00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:42,359
fix it, mister what's it? I think it's mister what's it?

710
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,680
Like I got this friend, mister Whatson. He's telling me

711
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,039
all this stuff. He' telling me he's gonna protect me

712
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:49,759
and the monsters from Hawking. And that's where I get it.

713
00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:51,799
But the same times, like, yeah, there's no monsters whatsoever.

714
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,000
I get you're trying to protect her. But he kind

715
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,039
of clocks its like almost like nothing has happened, in

716
00:31:57,079 --> 00:31:58,559
my opinion, like the way he acts. I mean, that's

717
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:01,279
a good act for when Finnwolf, but for me, it's like,

718
00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:04,160
in this world where you've seen so much going down,

719
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,440
You've seen Moss, you've seen powers, all this stuff right

720
00:32:06,519 --> 00:32:10,799
the upside down, you know not gonna clock that. You're

721
00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:13,359
not gonna be somewhat worried that something's going on. And

722
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,960
then even later on, once he realized, oh my god,

723
00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:20,279
that must be something happened worrying about the monsters. He

724
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,359
jumps to that must be someone trying to help her.

725
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,160
Who could be he and then tells Nancy and they're

726
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,839
about like, yeah, who could be able to help her?

727
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,039
And like they don't ever think about the possibility of

728
00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:33,319
what if this is Vecna, what if this is Henry?

729
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:35,599
Like what are this fucking rounds? I feel like this

730
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,160
is stuff that season one for sure, Season two and three, okay,

731
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,640
a bit of stretch Backay, I could believe that once

732
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,880
through season four and five, Mike and Nancy should know

733
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,359
a little bit better, especially Mike who was on this

734
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,319
track right away. So there's a couple of things that

735
00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:52,519
I think we're a leap as far as your sister's

736
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:54,000
sound about this. And you're not even gonna get to

737
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,000
inquire about it a little bit like right away that

738
00:32:57,039 --> 00:32:59,279
should have been okay, he starts looking into it. Maybe

739
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:01,400
he's too late, right the imaginary friend gets her to

740
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,640
a point where he figures it out and that's gone

741
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,400
after the fact. And to not even I'm not saying

742
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,680
you have to go right away, Thatchna, but to not

743
00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:12,519
even consider what if it's someone playing tricks because they

744
00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:15,119
would have talked to I imagine, like I don't know

745
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,000
the whole time, but their friends and with the stuff

746
00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:20,119
Max went through, I feel like they knew she was

747
00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:22,599
seeing people that weren't there, right and other people, and

748
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,519
I don't know, it just feels like they could have

749
00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:27,839
figured that one out. But I digress. That was a

750
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,759
little stretch. But I don't mind the imagine every friend thing.

751
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:31,680
I like that there's this new method of Okay, I'm

752
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,279
gonna get kids, and I think his kind of idea

753
00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:36,839
is I'll see what he was doing last season directly

754
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,799
with the teenagers and just kind of tackling wasn't working.

755
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:41,160
So let's go back to basic. Let's do like we

756
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,240
did with Will and get the kids. But let's just

757
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:45,640
get kids plurals. Not just let's get one kid and

758
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,680
use them as a vessel. Let's get multiple, right, And

759
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,160
that's where I love highlight character. I could see why

760
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,400
someone might be annoyed Derek. I'm loving right now. I'm

761
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:59,240
loving this guy, mouth breeder, the douchebag, the dipshit. I

762
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,799
like that it's a character which happens sometimes, right. But

763
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,640
I like that, Okay, Will's having these visions and sees

764
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,200
the next target is Derek, and of course he's the

765
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,760
kid at school that everybody fucking hates, which is just

766
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,679
like a fun thing for the kids, right, And then

767
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,960
they devise his plan, like, okay, they gotta get Derek.

768
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,920
They're looking all these scenarios and go, okay, well, the

769
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,239
only way we could do it is we got to

770
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,239
knock out his entire family and then we got to

771
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,239
kidnap him. And I love when they're starting to explain

772
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,440
this plan, and luckily Erica the sister is friends with

773
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,880
the daughter so that they get in. They give her

774
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,199
pie when they explain, and oh man, this is a

775
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:34,559
great shot where Erica it's her friends. She's like crawling

776
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:37,239
and she's tired. Erica says, a needle just viciously like

777
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,480
takes her up. I love how like mini vicious Erica

778
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:42,920
is like throughout the whole show, but especially already in

779
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,840
this season. But just this plan to abduct Derek is great.

780
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,440
When he wakes up, Joyce is they're trying to explain

781
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:49,760
to him, but he just thinks he's like a full

782
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,320
and stranger danger situation. But now he's part of the crew,

783
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,639
and I like that he's like a level loser. He

784
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:59,320
feels again very eighties coded, very like Christmas story esque,

785
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,079
like he's in an little Kid, right, but now he's

786
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,760
the delightful Derek's and he's trying to pump himself up

787
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,159
right because probably he's been a little jerk asshole a

788
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:08,719
couple of times and now people are his friends. So

789
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,519
and maybe because I was that way, I'm always cheering

790
00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:11,840
for the like the little back, right. I was a

791
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,480
big fan of Mike and they had series, you know,

792
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:15,960
so I like these trying me a hero and the

793
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,679
idea is now the government's gone, Okay, a kid went missing,

794
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,280
just like Will and all our characters put that together eventually,

795
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:25,480
which I thought was a little weird thing where he

796
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:28,760
went missing November three, Will went missing November sixth, and Luke,

797
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,519
it's like, that's three days when Will went missing. There's

798
00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:33,320
no coincidence. I don't know why they just didn't have

799
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,880
it like November six like just like like on the

800
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,079
exact same day. I get it. It's still a coincidence,

801
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:40,119
still November. It still works. But I just thought, why

802
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:41,679
not just making the exact same day and then right

803
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,159
away your characters not But that's fine whatever. Maybe there's

804
00:35:44,199 --> 00:35:45,639
a reason, right, and that's thing. The strange things. They

805
00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:50,400
reveal a lot of stuff. So they they do this

806
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,440
and they have this plan where Okay, all these kids

807
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:56,199
are now just the government's abducting them. They're doing it

808
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,960
the right way. But their idea is okay, well, this

809
00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:02,679
girl wouldn't saying Holly, just like will all should happen

810
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,559
after this happened all either we can't let this happen

811
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:07,840
anymore kids, or even happens. We kind of like want

812
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,239
to see what's gonna go down, right, So they have

813
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,039
this plan. We're gonna knap all these kids on a button,

814
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:14,000
not kiddnup. They're gonna take all these kids separating from

815
00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:16,599
school their parents, put them in the military facility right

816
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,639
and ended with them all getting kidnap, which I thought

817
00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:23,119
was a great, like great thing. So Tony said it

818
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:25,519
was an epic season so far. I guess you could say, oh,

819
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:27,159
let's hope the rest of episodes are. And I think

820
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,159
the finale of volloume one was where that's a great

821
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:32,360
thing for our characters to lose. That's where to me,

822
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,039
I would prefer it where I don't need Will Joyce

823
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:38,159
Hopper All getting killed volume one night now we're going

824
00:36:38,199 --> 00:36:43,039
for revenge. I think then abducting two dozen over two

825
00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:47,000
dozen like little kids that are anywhere from eight to twelve,

826
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:49,960
that to me is scary motivation. That's good enough motivation,

827
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,480
and that's fucked the motivation where it's like, yeah, I

828
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:53,079
just want to see them succeed. I don't need to

829
00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:55,360
see any of them die, right, And that's dark enough.

830
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,559
So but that's how did ennefred to mention where not

831
00:36:57,679 --> 00:36:59,679
only did Will get his powers, but Vecna piece out

832
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,079
of there. Seems like he's free, he's more juiced and

833
00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:04,360
bolt up, but he's also got all these kids, so

834
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,639
I guess the idea is just to use them his

835
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,039
vessels and get stronger and stronger. Right, So I think

836
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:09,920
that was good, But the idea was, Okay, Derek was

837
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,960
supposed to be with these kids, or he can pass

838
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,239
for being with these kids. They're gonna send them in there,

839
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,760
and they have this idea where they are going to

840
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:22,480
go under the army base, like make an exit way

841
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:24,679
and get these kids out of here. Any kid that

842
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,440
have like talk to mister what's it or whatever the

843
00:37:28,519 --> 00:37:31,599
name was. The imagine her friend Derek starts going around

844
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:33,960
getting intel and they're gonna send them out, and of

845
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,480
course they can send them to a bathroom. There's a

846
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,760
hole install they remove something get the kids out. Of course,

847
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,320
obviously that didn't work because back when I came and

848
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,519
contect them. But at the same time, there's a one

849
00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:45,440
kid that just saw that kid like in the floor

850
00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:47,960
of the stall and runs right to the military. So

851
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,360
that's when things go awry, right, But so far the

852
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,159
Derek character liking a lot of the humor. That's good

853
00:37:53,199 --> 00:37:54,440
to hope he doesn't die, and that could be a

854
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,039
character that I don't think, so I think he's gonna

855
00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:58,880
get a redemption arc. So imagine our friends stuff I

856
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,280
liked like in the stuff with and like we talked

857
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,000
about earlier, I was fine they seem alive now. But

858
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:07,239
I was completely fine with Nancy's parents biting it because

859
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,199
those are characters were like, I do care about them.

860
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,440
I'm not looking for death in the show. But if

861
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,000
something like you do want to have stace, you do

862
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:14,800
want someone to die, right, so you know the danger

863
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:17,440
and that's something personal. And that also to me gives

864
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,519
another reason why Mike with somebody leaving hawkings if our

865
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:23,360
parents are dead, I feel like Holly and Mike and Nancy.

866
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,880
They want to get the fuck out of there for

867
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,320
a multitude of reasons, but just also because hey, our

868
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,880
parents were mutilated here, right, And I thought that scene

869
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,039
was great too. As far as the Demigorn come for

870
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:36,440
them ripping through the roof, like obviously, I think season one,

871
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,199
season two, there's a few times where the effects look

872
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,639
a little iffy, but they've always looked pretty good. This

873
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:43,360
season they're looking top notch, obviously because Stranger Things is

874
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,440
hot shit, right, so they're gonna give them tons of money.

875
00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:47,519
But like this season when they're ripping through the upside

876
00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:50,360
down come in great. But the whole moments of them

877
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,920
hid in the bathtub, the flickering, all this stuff, like great,

878
00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:57,480
great scene, the slow motion shout in Nancy's one for

879
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,559
trying with that wine bottle going to town. I don't

880
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:04,199
know if I actually needed the whole like like subplot

881
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,960
of Nancy and her like her parents are like, they're

882
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,039
not divorcing, but they just like hate each other. Now

883
00:39:09,079 --> 00:39:10,920
She's like, well, you keep drinking, you keep And I

884
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,360
get what they're kind of trying to do. I think

885
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,559
they're trying to say, like it's kind of Calvin fever.

886
00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:17,159
They talk about that how people are getting nuts, people

887
00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:19,400
aren't moving anywhere, they can't go anywhere. But it just

888
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,880
then it's like the army thing in the middle of

889
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:27,360
all the Especially it's different if it was like season three, right, yeah,

890
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,559
season three with Billy, right where she almost cheated on

891
00:39:29,559 --> 00:39:31,519
her husband with Billy, if you want to do that

892
00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:33,920
in that season, that makes sense because oh, she might

893
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,639
have an affair because she's not happy with her marriage.

894
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,000
We don't got time for not happy with their marriage.

895
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:41,320
Fact to it's rue stup. There's Demi Gornans all over

896
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,360
the place. We don't got time for this. Right. You

897
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,559
could have done a bunch of other stuff and just

898
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:47,559
have them regular parents that they get attacked, right, nothing

899
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:50,719
else is happening, but so far, like in Holy Character,

900
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,400
and I guess to talk about that where I thought

901
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,039
this was gonna be the end of episode four, but

902
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,800
it was the end of episode three. Big revealed that

903
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,239
she gets like he goes to this traumatic event, but

904
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,719
then mister, what's it's like a friend, the imaginary friend, right,

905
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,239
so it's like, I can save you. And then when

906
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,920
he gets her instead of going she's in the upside

907
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,519
down in a sense, right, but not going to the

908
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:12,679
scary tentacles veins. She goes to like a happy place

909
00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:14,920
where Henry lived, but it's all happy. They have a

910
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,960
montage of her like putting on clothes and playing dress up,

911
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,320
having food and she's just has a Kevin Mcowster, I'm

912
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,480
all home alone, love and life moment, right, And then

913
00:40:24,519 --> 00:40:26,800
she starts to experience. Someone leaves a note for and

914
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,679
they reveal that personally left a note for it was Max,

915
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,280
And we get a little flashback of what she's been

916
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,519
up to where she almost died, but she's kind of

917
00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:36,639
been in this athletic situation and she's been trying to

918
00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:38,800
find her way out of there. At one point she

919
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,159
decided it's impossible, but she did find a place. I

920
00:40:41,199 --> 00:40:44,679
don't think they've fully explained that Vecna is scared of

921
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,960
or can't go. So it's like his forbid zone. It's

922
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,679
his uh god, what is the bridge in Sleepy Hall?

923
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,920
I guess I don't know, just the bridge, Buckleberry fridge,

924
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,760
I don't know, but like no Buckleberry, that's that's the

925
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,119
lot of the rings. But I guess same thing, right,

926
00:40:57,519 --> 00:40:59,519
it's an area that Vecna can't go and Max has

927
00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:01,920
been hiding out out there. There's been times where she's

928
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,199
been closed. There's times where she sees her and Lucas.

929
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,559
She heard the music she heard Kate Bush, which great

930
00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:08,559
line when she's like, oh my Kate, I heard Kate

931
00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:11,400
Bush and that your friends like, well kinda it is

932
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,119
now and it's like the love and the passion of

933
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:17,280
Lucas and her friends is making that she can almost

934
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,639
get out, but not quite get there because Vecna interrupts her. Right,

935
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,599
I thought it was great and Dreda in introduction, I

936
00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:25,440
think other than the adults, like even I know writer,

937
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,559
I think it's like a fine actress. I think she's

938
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:30,159
not as good as she used to be. But like

939
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,400
I think the acting in the show is not always

940
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,719
like Emmy Award winning or Oscar like that level. Right,

941
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,920
I think it's there's some performances are and I think

942
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,079
the people do their jobs well, But I think there

943
00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:42,480
is some people that often because they are kid actors

944
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,519
and maybe they you know, they were better than a

945
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:48,119
lot of kid actors, but they didn't per se like

946
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,480
maybe like other people peers age don't have the same level.

947
00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:53,840
I will say I'm not gonna say any names so

948
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,280
I'll just look it there. But man, and I'll just

949
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,559
generalize it. When Sadie syn gets in and I talked

950
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:01,320
about this in our discre I talked about this on

951
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,920
a episodeen we're talking about Spiremn rumors. When she gets in,

952
00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:07,079
she's to me, like acting circles around all the people

953
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:09,440
that are her age are under It's just like it

954
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,880
feels like everyone's like, you know, a kid actor. Like

955
00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:14,440
and again, kid actors nowadays are way much better than

956
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,000
they used to be, right, But I just mean, like

957
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,320
in the sense if everyone feels like in the same ballpark,

958
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,280
maybe a little better, a little uh, you know, a

959
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,559
little worse, kind of the same. But I just mean

960
00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:24,480
it still feels like, oh, they're you know, they're here

961
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,199
because they're these characters we love and that that's completely fine, right,

962
00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:30,239
But Sadie's sink. Man, it just feels like she's a

963
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,199
step above kind of them all. When she came into

964
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,599
that episode, it's like, man, she's out acting kind of everybody.

965
00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:38,199
She's on par with all the adults. She's great. Like

966
00:42:38,199 --> 00:42:41,880
there's a reason why she's inspired man, Aaronofski Films and

967
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,159
all this stuff. Right, It's just so that episode really great,

968
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,760
and I'm excited that. I'm hoping that Max gets reunited

969
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,719
because Lucas gave her the speech about, hey, we really

970
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,000
need you right now. It'll be interesting to see if

971
00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:54,320
she has any kind of like powers or so. I

972
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,960
don't think we need that because Will got that, So

973
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,559
maybe we'll leave that to Will. But the reintroduction of Max,

974
00:42:58,599 --> 00:43:02,480
I'm very happy was not you just they like it

975
00:43:02,559 --> 00:43:05,719
With Bill's wife, I'm happy, wasn't we defeat Vecna and

976
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,239
Matt Matd. Max wakes up like I missed you guys all,

977
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,800
like she's gonna be in the adventure a little bit.

978
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,519
So I appreciate that. And that was good. All that

979
00:43:13,519 --> 00:43:15,639
stuff was working, good, good reveal, and I think that

980
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,639
was smart. Where kicked off with the pilot. Episode two

981
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:21,320
hit some bad stuff like bad protest stuff going on

982
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,440
three of the cliffhangers Max and then four of the

983
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,440
cliffhangers Will. So I think they're doing a good job

984
00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:27,440
of If it was weekly, I think people would have

985
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,719
been watching. That's what the creators want. But Netflix, in

986
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,519
which I don't really know why they didn't want weekly

987
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:33,679
this time, it's like, I don't know, you can make

988
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,920
this talking point the whole time, But I digress liking that.

989
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,280
The storyline I really liking, though, I think might be

990
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,760
my favorite is the the Dustin storyline when he he's

991
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,360
still lovable, but man, not only has he been through

992
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,880
some shit, he just hates what happened to Eddie and

993
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,320
what keeps happening to Eddie. That obviously we saw last

994
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,440
season where he's kind of set up as this like, uh,

995
00:43:53,639 --> 00:43:57,840
you know, satanic people, you know, think he was a

996
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,119
warshipper of the devil and everything, but he's not. That's

997
00:44:01,159 --> 00:44:04,199
not the case. He you know, he we saw what happen.

998
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,000
He was an actual, you know hero at the end.

999
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,960
He just caught in a bad place, wrong time. But

1000
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:09,800
I love that he is. Everyone knows, like, hey, you

1001
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,440
can't be wearing that hell Fire Club shure because that's

1002
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,519
pretty much you just walk walk around with a pentagram

1003
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:16,360
or you know, uh, some sort of cult like stuff,

1004
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,239
right because for him and then it was just a

1005
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,440
D and D club, but for everybody else, it's that's

1006
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,519
a similar devil. He's wearing it proud. He's got a

1007
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:26,880
trench coat, but that thing's unzipped and that thing's going everywhere,

1008
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,239
even if it got ripped. It's going somewhere. So I'm

1009
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,719
like all that. I'm liking how defined he is. I'm

1010
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,159
liking how he's just like he's got Eddie issm's. That's

1011
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:38,519
why I like where it's not like he's just become Eddie.

1012
00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:40,400
But there's this moment where he sat down, someone said

1013
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,280
something and can give like the double birds, very Eddy

1014
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,480
kind of coded. So to me, I'm loving all this

1015
00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:48,119
stuff where it's a darker Dustn't. It's Dustin't trying to

1016
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:51,159
be a guy that he idolizes because he is darker.

1017
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,800
He's still what I appreciate. He's wanting to help the team,

1018
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,599
but he's screwing up a bit more. I didn't need

1019
00:44:56,599 --> 00:44:59,920
the whole because at first, uh, what was it? Joe

1020
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:02,400
or Steve called him about something and he's like, ah, whatever,

1021
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:03,800
I don't got time, and they just hud him, like oh,

1022
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,360
I don't need a story of He's just like, fucking

1023
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,400
I'm done, you guys, figure it out. I've lost too much.

1024
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,039
I didn't need that. I like that he's still wanting

1025
00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:12,639
to help, but he's also just kind of fucked up

1026
00:45:12,679 --> 00:45:14,000
and he's just trying to work through it. And he

1027
00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:15,679
doesn't have time, right because they're trying to say at

1028
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,360
the world at the same point. And I like that

1029
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,320
that's causing him and Steve to clash like a big

1030
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,119
brother older brother thing. They completely seem like they want

1031
00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:24,039
nothing to do with each other right now, we all know,

1032
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:25,800
and that's why I don't think either of them are dying.

1033
00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:28,599
They're gonna make good and like be happy. I don't

1034
00:45:28,599 --> 00:45:31,119
think they will recreate the Eddy thing where one of

1035
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:32,840
them lose each other and it's like losing a brother.

1036
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,519
I don't think so. I think they'll get a happy ending.

1037
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,519
I think that's one that people would kind of not

1038
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,280
like if they didn't with each other. I could even

1039
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,480
see like them moving in that city and like Steve

1040
00:45:41,559 --> 00:45:43,840
taking him while as like a roommate or something like that.

1041
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,800
Right Like, I think that's gonna be where it's going eventually.

1042
00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:50,239
But I like the system right now. And there's moments

1043
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,639
where he's like fighting bullies and they pin him against

1044
00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:54,199
a locker and he's ready to punch, like not a

1045
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,280
dustin we're used to seeing it at all. And that's

1046
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,280
where it's great, where it's a change of character, but

1047
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,599
it all feels natural. It all feels like a concurrent progression, right,

1048
00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:04,280
and that's some of the great writing of the show.

1049
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,280
Bob kat Driver says these episodes were Spielbergian in the

1050
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,719
terms of cinematic direction. Duffer Brothers, Frank Drbant, Sean Levy

1051
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,920
really get the flex to directing massles absolutely off sly.

1052
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,320
It helps because they got a big budget, right, bab

1053
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,480
But that's because they've earned that. But yeah, absolutely, Like

1054
00:46:18,519 --> 00:46:22,519
Frank Drbant should direct more. To me, Walking Dead was

1055
00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:24,719
better when he was involved in season one and two.

1056
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:26,840
I think there's a reason you see a shift. Frank

1057
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,320
Drbant obviously done a lot of great stuff. Duffer Brothers.

1058
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,559
I'm very excited to see what they do at Paramount,

1059
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:34,039
even though Paramont's getting a little if he was some

1060
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:36,360
of there, Like we're gonna make a reshower four because

1061
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,719
the President wants it. It's like, all right, cool, But

1062
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,000
like the Duffer Brothers after this, like unless they put

1063
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,719
a bunch of stinkers after I'm gonna watch all their

1064
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,159
stuff and it's gonna be hard to believe they would

1065
00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:48,920
do a bunch of stinkers, right, And Sean Levy, like

1066
00:46:49,519 --> 00:46:52,159
a very talented director. Still we talked about in the

1067
00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:55,519
discord today where yeah, sometimes does he maybe feel like

1068
00:46:55,559 --> 00:46:59,159
a higher type of guy, Sure, but he knows what

1069
00:46:59,199 --> 00:47:01,280
he's doing. He's been around the block, so no, I

1070
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,199
agree that it feels like and that's what the first

1071
00:47:03,199 --> 00:47:06,480
series felt, or the first season especially right, like everybody

1072
00:47:06,559 --> 00:47:08,400
looked at this and thought, oh, this is like ambul

1073
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,360
and et but horror version. Right, It's always felt like that,

1074
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,039
but it definitely does. It feels like that's my Spielberg

1075
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:16,079
I love I love it more than Auster Spielberg. And

1076
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,840
whatever we've gone these past few years were don't be wrong,

1077
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,079
Spielberg is still making some good degrees stuff. It just

1078
00:47:22,119 --> 00:47:25,000
hasn't been nothing's my favorite. I haven't been wild by

1079
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,199
anything he's done since War of the World. But definitely,

1080
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,639
Bob Cat, they they have that it's just like in On,

1081
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,280
It just moves. It moves. Like I said, there might

1082
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,119
be the odd time of CG I think might like

1083
00:47:34,159 --> 00:47:37,119
stick out, but it moves like such a well oiled machine,

1084
00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:41,960
and yeah, you know, it's fantastic stuff. The sorry Bobcat says.

1085
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,400
The writers know how to start a scene right in

1086
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,800
the middle of the action, and the scene of the

1087
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,360
perfect sweet moment without killing the momentum. Really impressed. Yeah,

1088
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,519
pacing has always been good, even the moments when they

1089
00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:52,239
are setting up at the radio talents then cutting back

1090
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,320
and forth between like three locations. I've always impressed where

1091
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,239
obviously they just filmed the scenes, you know, Warehouse, Joyce

1092
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,639
and Hopper clock tower or like whatever radio tower and

1093
00:48:01,639 --> 00:48:04,599
then spice them together. But it's just the how well

1094
00:48:04,639 --> 00:48:06,880
they flow. It's just so if it feels almost like

1095
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,400
a play at times where they're all there at the

1096
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,480
same time, but it's not. It's just very well done.

1097
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,159
And they've done that for multile seasons, right, or the

1098
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,360
characters cutting in back and forth between dialogue, which isn't

1099
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,719
like a new thing, but just they do it very well.

1100
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:21,639
Let's see Mike, I said, right now, this kind of

1101
00:48:21,639 --> 00:48:24,639
team leader, he's worried about his fit. Well, I would say, like,

1102
00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:28,199
whether it's acting direction or this writing, I think they've

1103
00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:31,400
done a bad job of making Nancy feel sad about

1104
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,480
the parents. It feels like Mike is not like I

1105
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,440
don't know, like I haven't felt the weight of him

1106
00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:40,840
losing his parents' potentially right, And I guess I didn't

1107
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,159
say that too. I would have been fine as mad,

1108
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,039
like bad as it sounds. I don't want depth in

1109
00:48:45,079 --> 00:48:47,199
the show, but it's more for our main characters. To me,

1110
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,199
those are the characters you could lose. You could lose

1111
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,559
the parents be like man, those raised the stakes. So

1112
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,639
when they're like, oh, she's a live recovering, He's like,

1113
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,880
come on, like eh, maybe it should have just killed them.

1114
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,800
You know, this was their moment they found out she

1115
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,440
got a good, nice one with Nancy. At the end,

1116
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,039
I think it would have been okay if they're dead,

1117
00:49:03,079 --> 00:49:04,920
but we'll see what happens. And that's where if they

1118
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,719
make it alive, I feel that the entire like I

1119
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,960
can't remember what their family's last name is, but they

1120
00:49:11,039 --> 00:49:13,840
gotta make it out right so they can be reunited Harley, Mike,

1121
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,440
Nancy and the parents. So the other storyline, which I

1122
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,119
think would be last one, I'll talk about if anything

1123
00:49:18,119 --> 00:49:20,079
else pops up my brain, I'll bring up quickly. But

1124
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,360
so we got the love triangle still going on. I

1125
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,280
talked about this last season where so season one picks

1126
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,960
up with Nancy and Nancy and Steve. It's already like

1127
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:33,039
she's maybe not exactly into him. They're on different wavelengths

1128
00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:35,719
and then back half of season one, even though she

1129
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,280
stays with Steve, you can tell, okay, she's been on

1130
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,480
uh Jonathan, and then two and three is all about John.

1131
00:49:41,519 --> 00:49:45,000
Then get Jonathan and them together. Sure they have some moments,

1132
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,280
but it's never it feels like they are endgame stuff. Right.

1133
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,280
We're then randomly in season four, which I don't mind.

1134
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,679
I get the storyline because long term relationship, especially in

1135
00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:55,400
that time, right, it's not like us, Like, don't get

1136
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,159
me wrong, anybody doing a long term relationship right now,

1137
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,519
still tough, still off se spot, but you can call,

1138
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,880
you can face time, you can fucking be doing sexual

1139
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,880
pleasuring yourselves and looking at each other while you're doing it, right,

1140
00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:11,320
not like the eighties where you couldn't just have your

1141
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,559
whole phone on you all the time and just contact

1142
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:16,679
that person, right, So that I understand, as far as

1143
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:20,199
the idea of how that puts it apart, I think

1144
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,360
what came in surprising to me was Steve back in

1145
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,840
the picture because obviously he had a thing with Robin,

1146
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,400
but it wasn't the thing because she's gay and that

1147
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,440
character's back, which I like, I like that way on that.

1148
00:50:29,519 --> 00:50:31,800
I like that's not will they won't they They're still

1149
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,239
in the zones. They're dating, they're making out, maybe they're

1150
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,159
getting on I know, but I like that. Okay, they're

1151
00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:39,280
a couple, boom done. Okay. I don't think she exactly

1152
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,119
knows what's going on. But at the same time, that

1153
00:50:41,199 --> 00:50:42,840
might not be the worst thing, because we do a

1154
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,440
lot of characters already there in the thick of things.

1155
00:50:44,519 --> 00:50:46,599
Maybe near the end she can find out. Right. But

1156
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,360
it was surprising to me that they put Steve back

1157
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,920
in the hole because I think the thing that was

1158
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,840
missing was Steve. That's why I liked about the first

1159
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,639
season that he was a dick, But near the end

1160
00:50:56,679 --> 00:50:59,000
that season he tried to apologize Jonathan, try to do

1161
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,440
the right thing where he was. He he was a

1162
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,679
deck because he was immature. He wasn't just a dick

1163
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,159
or a piece of shit. So now he's kind of

1164
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,079
matured out of that, and any of that dick is

1165
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,599
is just gonna become like a little cocky or he

1166
00:51:11,639 --> 00:51:13,599
makes some jokes, but it's not like, oh he can't

1167
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,960
you know Stan Steve. It's just like for comedy reasons

1168
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,159
now right for the most I'm there's a few moments

1169
00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:21,159
where he might be a little douchey, but it's all

1170
00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:26,400
in just nowadays, right, So that's the idea in the concept,

1171
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,840
where he's matured and maybe he would be right for Nancy.

1172
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,280
And I was surprised for that storyline. I was like, hey,

1173
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:32,639
we're near the endgame. I think they kind of were

1174
00:51:32,679 --> 00:51:35,079
hinting season five is the end, and it's like, really,

1175
00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:37,159
we're introducing this back. But then at the end of

1176
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,280
last season, you know, nothing really happens too much. And

1177
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,559
then even though it's a little awkward, her and Jonathan

1178
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:45,679
get back to right together, and Steve, because I just watched,

1179
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,119
has this kind of look of like like I missed out,

1180
00:51:48,159 --> 00:51:51,239
like almost kind of like Nancy was thinking about it

1181
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,199
because he was there, Like Jonathan was gone and he

1182
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,679
was there, and it's kind of like a good sec

1183
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,199
second option. But with Jonathan, it's like, ah, like now

1184
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:00,840
you're back. Yeah, you're the one I actually do love

1185
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,000
and I want to be with you. So that's what

1186
00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:03,599
I thought the look was. But the first thing we

1187
00:52:03,639 --> 00:52:05,039
have of them this season is they throw it on

1188
00:52:05,039 --> 00:52:07,800
a map or Steve gets really close to Nancy and

1189
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,079
she like kind of shuffles over because she's like their

1190
00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:13,079
bodies are pressed against each other, and Jonathan notes that right,

1191
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,880
and episode one is all about them competing their run there,

1192
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,280
trying to see who can get to the top of

1193
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,519
the tower first, who can be more braver. So I'm like, okay,

1194
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:24,960
like what we're we gonna do here? If it's like

1195
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,840
a three way thing, It's like, I don't know if

1196
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,159
I because like, I like Steve now as a character

1197
00:52:29,199 --> 00:52:30,679
a lot, and I still like Jonathan. I think I

1198
00:52:30,679 --> 00:52:34,079
still like Nancy and Jonathan together and I prefer that,

1199
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,440
and I know people that prefer the Steve thing, But

1200
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,199
if they're doing the whole season, I'm trying to one

1201
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,320
up each other. I think in that route, you kind

1202
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,679
of just have Nancy go, you know what, this is

1203
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,599
a time of our lives, but we're all gonna move

1204
00:52:44,639 --> 00:52:46,639
and do different things, and maybe we're just be friends.

1205
00:52:46,679 --> 00:52:48,239
And I love you both, but I can't be with

1206
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,840
you both unless they're a threutple. I guess right. I

1207
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,360
don't think people are doing in the eighties, But like

1208
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,480
to me, if they're competing for each other, it would

1209
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,320
have gone the way of we're I'm not gonna be

1210
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,280
with either of you. We're you know, let's go our

1211
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,960
separate ways, be friends, happy that we have each other. Right,

1212
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,000
we always come back together like it as adults, and

1213
00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:07,559
well we'll have a bond. Right. But now we had

1214
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:10,480
two things where Steve kind of they're they kind of

1215
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,800
admitted that he's trying like because the parents got teket,

1216
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,239
oh we should go give her flowers and stuff. He

1217
00:53:15,559 --> 00:53:17,880
kind of a to me kind of admitted, and Jonathan

1218
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,679
clocked it as well as him saying like, oh, the

1219
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,320
only reason she's feeling this way and talking to me

1220
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,880
and doing these things is because you're not there, which

1221
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,360
I appreciate from the Steve character. Still gonna be like, hey,

1222
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,599
like I I do or could have feelings for her,

1223
00:53:30,639 --> 00:53:32,920
and if you don't step up, I'm gonna But it's

1224
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,400
almost like Jonathan to me was saying, she's your girl.

1225
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,119
You're gonna win this, but you have to still win

1226
00:53:39,199 --> 00:53:41,679
this by like stepping up and being there. If you don't,

1227
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,039
I'm gonna win by default. Right. It's it's kind of

1228
00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:46,840
like if you're competing in someone like a sporting thing,

1229
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,920
and it's like if you know they're better than you,

1230
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,800
but they're injured, you got a shock to beat them

1231
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,800
and I think that's what he's trying to say was Jonathan,

1232
00:53:53,079 --> 00:53:54,800
you're injured. You came back as kind of this like

1233
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,840
aloof stoner and you're not present. If you're present, that's

1234
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,920
why Nancy's gonna stop talking, gonna be or I'm gonna

1235
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,679
stop talking to Nancy. So to me, that kind of

1236
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,239
felt like he was weighing the flak. And then we

1237
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,880
didn't get much more interaction of him and Johnson with

1238
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,760
that stuff, and no interaction of Steve and Nancy, and

1239
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,719
then after we found out that Jonathan got a ring.

1240
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,440
So that's why for me, I think I'm still in

1241
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,239
the camp where Jonathan is gonna step up. There's gonna

1242
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,960
be a big speech or moment of him talking about

1243
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,280
said things about not wanting to hold her back, because

1244
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,880
that was the whole thing right off Jonathan his if

1245
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,239
you'll don't remember in season four, he was like, Oh,

1246
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,119
I'm gonna hold her back from kind of having this

1247
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,360
like massive life, like I'm gonna be an anchor. She'd

1248
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,880
just best move on without me, right, I think he's

1249
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,400
gonna come to the conclusion that he does need her

1250
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:37,840
and he doesn't want to do those things, and he'll

1251
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,679
raise her up and she will reveal because she's never

1252
00:54:40,679 --> 00:54:42,320
said that was the case, she will revealed that, no,

1253
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,840
I still love you and you're not an anchor, Like

1254
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,280
even if I don't have that stuff I got you,

1255
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,519
that has to be away because now, if the Ring

1256
00:54:48,599 --> 00:54:51,480
wasn't evolved, I'd say it's anybody's game with the ring involved,

1257
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:56,440
It's like, is he gonna propose to Nancy and not happen?

1258
00:54:56,519 --> 00:54:59,480
Now there is a situation that he dies with that

1259
00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:02,360
ring and she finds out and it's heartbreaking, right, and

1260
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,800
she misread the situation where he still loves her. He's

1261
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,280
just like a little awkward about it, doesn't know how

1262
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,480
to handle these things. It's still like an awkward character

1263
00:55:09,519 --> 00:55:11,400
at times. Right, he has evolved, but still he is,

1264
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,960
you know, as I said, sometimes and aloof and especially

1265
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,000
with the weed, he was going hard in season four,

1266
00:55:17,079 --> 00:55:19,280
so maybe that mess him a little bit. So I'm

1267
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,360
still leaning that way with the Ring. To me, I

1268
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,719
think the scenarios are they make and get engaged, all

1269
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,880
three of them don't end up together. He dies with

1270
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,079
the ring, Like, I really don't feel the Steve thing's

1271
00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:34,440
gonna happen. I don't I don't know. I just don't

1272
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,360
feel because it's same thing too, And is that like

1273
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,159
a sad ending where Jonathan dies with the ring, she

1274
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,079
finds that and she thinks about how much she loved them,

1275
00:55:41,079 --> 00:55:43,239
then ends up with Steve. It's like that feels like

1276
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,280
you're saying that marriage up to be a little torn, right.

1277
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,679
It's like, now you're officially the second option maybe right,

1278
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:57,239
So I hope it's kind of resolved by unless Jonathan dies.

1279
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,440
It's like, I hope it's kind of resolved before the

1280
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,079
final like them to be in sync. But yeah, well see,

1281
00:56:02,119 --> 00:56:05,719
and I'm still I still like the storyline. That one

1282
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,039
for me is just I need to see how it

1283
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:08,840
how it all goes, I think, before I can really

1284
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,519
judge it, because even last year that threw me for

1285
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:12,119
a loop. I was like, really they're doing this, and

1286
00:56:12,599 --> 00:56:15,239
you know, I like Nancy and Johnthan so it's like,

1287
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,039
I don't know if I need this, And now I

1288
00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:18,639
like this, and I like the way they portrayed as

1289
00:56:18,639 --> 00:56:21,159
far as like I said, how far apart you are

1290
00:56:21,199 --> 00:56:23,039
and everything, So I think on a second rewatch, it's like, okay,

1291
00:56:23,039 --> 00:56:25,639
I can I can see, especially when I watch all

1292
00:56:25,639 --> 00:56:28,079
four seasons back to back and you do see Steve's progression.

1293
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,280
It is kind of like, oh, imagine that guy that

1294
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,519
was your first love. He was a dick, but now

1295
00:56:32,519 --> 00:56:36,159
he's like the version you wish he was. Right, It's like, oh,

1296
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,159
it maybe would give you pause, right, So I like that.

1297
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,159
Let's see Joyce and Opper, you know, I liked to.

1298
00:56:43,159 --> 00:56:45,400
I think they just love. They're kissing each other, talk

1299
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,840
about how beautiful she is. She doesn't want to lose them. Great.

1300
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,639
That all work for me. I'm trying to think there's

1301
00:56:50,679 --> 00:56:52,599
anything else, but I think I've hit it all. And yeah,

1302
00:56:52,639 --> 00:56:54,440
so far, I'm not gonna rate this because I need

1303
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,039
the whole seasons, but so far episodes two thumbs up.

1304
00:56:57,079 --> 00:56:59,280
Like I said, you heard like, I have a few critiques,

1305
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,840
but all the critique star of the minor degree, Mike

1306
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,480
reacting to his parents, the sister thing, some of the

1307
00:57:04,559 --> 00:57:07,599
army stuff, but so little things. But I don't even

1308
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:11,159
think that would like if the show can really stick

1309
00:57:11,159 --> 00:57:13,079
the landing and be as great as four and five,

1310
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,719
I can comfortably give this like a ten. You know,

1311
00:57:16,039 --> 00:57:18,199
it's just maybe some big cons happened, right the army

1312
00:57:18,239 --> 00:57:20,519
so but even the rush is stuff for me. I

1313
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,159
didn't love it, but as I said, it was still

1314
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,159
well done for the most part. That's why I could

1315
00:57:26,199 --> 00:57:28,480
still give season four ten because it's like, well, from

1316
00:57:28,519 --> 00:57:31,599
a enjoyment level, still there. So yeah, we'll see. I'll

1317
00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:33,400
be back. So if you like this episode, if there's

1318
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,159
anything I missed or anything you want me to hit

1319
00:57:35,159 --> 00:57:36,920
on the future, and I imagine in the what we've

1320
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,719
been watching on news, we'll probably talk about the show

1321
00:57:39,719 --> 00:57:41,360
a little bit more so on newscast we'll get some

1322
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,000
the other geeks opinions and everything. But yeah, i'll be

1323
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:47,960
back whenever. Probably review will be if it drops Christmas Day.

1324
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,039
I'm gonna say, let's say twenty seven, maybe twenty six,

1325
00:57:52,159 --> 00:57:54,199
you never know, but we'll have to see what happens.

1326
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,960
So thank you very much for anyone to listen to this.

1327
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,199
Everyone that was in the live chat today, I hope

1328
00:57:59,199 --> 00:58:01,440
you enjoy things. Hope you enjoyed this episode. Like I said,

1329
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,760
I'll be back with the Volume two and Volume three

1330
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,519
reviews a day or two after they drop, and then

1331
00:58:06,639 --> 00:58:08,400
lots of other stuff on the feed. So I promise

1332
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,760
when you hear from us next you don't not be boring.