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<v Speaker 1>Now we have a new candidate, Your Decision twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four station, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Failed vice president and a failed administration.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty five cares He the talk station coming up on

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<v Speaker 1>seven oh six.

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<v Speaker 3>At fifty five KRCD Talk Station. Happy Wednesday, an extra

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<v Speaker 3>special Wednesday because today the return of Day Widiams from

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<v Speaker 3>the Taxpayer Protection Alliance, which you can find online and

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<v Speaker 3>I recommend you do go at protecting Taxpayers dot org

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<v Speaker 3>looking out for where how our dollars are spent, and

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<v Speaker 3>usually they're spent well stupidly. Dave Williams, it's always a

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<v Speaker 3>distinct pleasure to have you on my program Sir, Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 4>Good morning, Brian.

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<v Speaker 5>I was telling Joe, your producer, off the air that

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<v Speaker 5>I can't wait for the campaigns to end an NFL

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<v Speaker 5>to begin.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's just that's funny, you ronicaus. You and I

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<v Speaker 3>had conversations about, in addition to street cars, stadiums and

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<v Speaker 3>stupid stadium deals. And I had our local sports writer

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<v Speaker 3>for the CINCINNI inquired Jason Williams on yesterday talking about

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<v Speaker 3>I guess there's some you know, rumblings and things going

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<v Speaker 3>on about the well it's formerly Paul Brown Stadium, now

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<v Speaker 3>it's pay corpse stadium, but it needs upgrades, and we

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<v Speaker 3>the Hamilton County taxpayers, are going to be on the

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<v Speaker 3>hook for a lot of them. And there was some

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<v Speaker 3>discussion like, well, what if they just build a new

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<v Speaker 3>stadium out in the suburbs And two billion dollars was

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<v Speaker 3>the price tag that was associated with it. And the

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<v Speaker 3>Brown family apparently generates all of its revenue exclusively off Bengals,

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<v Speaker 3>so they're not in the multi billionaire club of folks

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<v Speaker 3>who can actually afford to pay for a large share

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<v Speaker 3>of their new stadium, so kind of puts them in

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of a disadvantage. So they just remodeled the

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<v Speaker 3>locker room, which I don't know if anybody was asking for,

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<v Speaker 3>but talking with the local sports writers and commentators, apparently

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<v Speaker 3>the Bengals players were like, yeah, whatever, it looks like

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<v Speaker 3>a discothech. They spend millions of dollars upgrade in the

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<v Speaker 3>locker room. Hey can I still hang my stuff in

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<v Speaker 3>here and take a shower? I mean, isn't that what

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<v Speaker 3>you want? It doesn't help the fans at all, And

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<v Speaker 3>it came to a huge expense, and I guess the

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<v Speaker 3>Browns decided they were going to pay for that themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, and I look at a figure like

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<v Speaker 3>two billion dollars, Dave, two billion dollars it is to

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<v Speaker 3>go in, and the price of the ticket, the cost

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<v Speaker 3>of a beers like twelve dollars. You know, a little

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<v Speaker 3>skyline chili coney costs like seven bucks. You can get

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<v Speaker 3>one for like three bucks at the store. It's just crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>And wouldn't you rather be at home within your giant,

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<v Speaker 3>high resolution five K jumbo tron TV and the comfort

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<v Speaker 3>of your own home and your own bathroom, your own food,

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<v Speaker 3>and see the game better, easier, without the headaches and

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<v Speaker 3>hassles of parking, et cetera. I would think, and I

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<v Speaker 3>hate to get down this road, but you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>drones are taking over. I think we're probably going to

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<v Speaker 3>need to buy fewer and fewer full sized aircraft for

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<v Speaker 3>human beings to fly more. People I think are just

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<v Speaker 3>gonna want Why do I go? And I thinks the

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<v Speaker 3>headache and hassle the game, I'd rather watch it your home.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you can have food delivered to you, you can

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<v Speaker 5>have everything delivered to listen. I would rather sit at

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<v Speaker 5>home watch my team lose, then go to a stadium

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<v Speaker 5>and watch my team lose and feel the disappointment. At

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<v Speaker 5>least I don't have a you know, commute home after

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<v Speaker 5>the game.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm already there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry to take you down that road, but we

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<v Speaker 3>just came up yesterday just too And that's the norm

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<v Speaker 3>these days anyhow. And how many games do they play

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<v Speaker 3>there each year? Not many. Let's move over to the

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<v Speaker 3>tax there's uncertainty because we don't know if there are

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<v Speaker 3>elected officials and Washington are going to extend the twenty

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen tax cuts or let them fall by the wayside,

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<v Speaker 3>and everybody's taxes go up, creating what you note on

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<v Speaker 3>the Taxpayer Protection website, creating uncertainty, which has got to

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<v Speaker 3>was a real problem for businesses. They need to have

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<v Speaker 3>some idea of where we're going tax wise so they

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<v Speaker 3>can prepare for the future.

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<v Speaker 4>They really do.

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<v Speaker 5>In twenty seventeen was such an amazing year for taxpayers

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<v Speaker 5>because tax reform was passed, and you remember the bonuses

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<v Speaker 5>that went out. Companies expanded their business, they gave out bonuses,

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<v Speaker 5>and I remember Nancy Pelosi mocking saying, oh, one thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>Who you know, that's not a lot of money for anybody. Well, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it is.

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<v Speaker 5>Dollars, is a few car payments, is a mortgage payment?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it really makes a difference in someone's like

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<v Speaker 5>maybe not Nancy Pelosi, who's worth hundreds of millions of dollars,

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<v Speaker 5>but it really rev the economic engine. And now those

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<v Speaker 5>tax cuts are expiring, like you said, and businesses are like,

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<v Speaker 5>what are we going to do?

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<v Speaker 4>Guys, give us some guidance here.

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<v Speaker 5>We need to know if they're going to be extended

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<v Speaker 5>and what's going to happen in the next two years.

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<v Speaker 4>And businesses make a lot of decisions.

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<v Speaker 5>They make investment decisions, they make hiring decision based upon

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<v Speaker 5>the economy, based upon the tax code. And that's why

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<v Speaker 5>they want, I know, and that's why there's such a

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<v Speaker 5>high level uncertainty because they don't know which tax cuts,

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<v Speaker 5>if any, will be extended.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what really irks me and I'm glad we're

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<v Speaker 3>having this conversation just because I can observe once again

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<v Speaker 3>that they don't make anything permanent. Why was there an

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<v Speaker 3>expiration date on this? If they want to raise taxes,

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<v Speaker 3>force them to vote to raise taxes. Don't build in

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<v Speaker 3>an end date. And that would give us all much

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<v Speaker 3>greater confidence that the tax rates aren't going to change

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<v Speaker 3>on us.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you notice spending is always permanent, is that

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<v Speaker 5>these programs are never sunseted, that you have a program

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<v Speaker 5>that last time, we have a sugar subsidy program from

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<v Speaker 5>the nineteen thirties, Yet we have tax cuts that are

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<v Speaker 5>going to expire from twenty seventeen. And you're right, it's

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<v Speaker 5>completely opposite of what should be happening.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Would like for them to vote for this, like right

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<v Speaker 5>before an election, you know, vote for a tax increase

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<v Speaker 5>right before an election. Maybe it would really get people's attention.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Congress is at zo.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and we'll see, we would see how that would

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<v Speaker 3>go over. But you know, I'd just like to see

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<v Speaker 3>something permanent. They'd have the and I guess they have

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<v Speaker 3>an expiration day built in at the outset. Is that

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<v Speaker 3>so they can get votes that the otherwise wouldn't get

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<v Speaker 3>to get the taxes the tax reform in place, or

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<v Speaker 3>is there some other nebulous and okay, so it is

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<v Speaker 3>that And.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a lot of you know, just sort of financial tomfoolery,

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<v Speaker 5>right is that you know they you know, they look

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<v Speaker 5>at the out years and they say well, after twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty five, we're going to bring this in the revenue

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<v Speaker 5>into the into the government. Well, we never see an

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<v Speaker 5>out year. I mean out years never happened. It's always,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the current year. So that's why why they

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<v Speaker 5>do it. It's it's so dishonest with the American people.

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<v Speaker 5>And and again, we have to beg to keep our

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<v Speaker 5>to beg to keep our own money.

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<v Speaker 3>Dave, you're talking my language, friend, you are talking my language. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>and as far as corporate taxes are concerned, because those

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<v Speaker 3>those are going to go up fairly dramatically. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>a big lie that the corporations are paying the taxes.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's a simple economic reality. It's like if

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<v Speaker 3>you jack the property taxes up for a apartment building owner,

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to pass the additional tax increase onto the renters.

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<v Speaker 3>If you jack the corporate taxes up, they're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to sacrifice the profit margins. They're just going to increase

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<v Speaker 3>the price of the goods and services. So it has

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<v Speaker 3>an inflationary effect on what we buy. We pay the

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<v Speaker 3>increased corporate tax we do.

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<v Speaker 5>And right now, the corporate tax rate is twenty one percent.

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<v Speaker 5>It is not great, but it's a lot better than

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<v Speaker 5>forty percent than what it was in twenty seventeen. Here's

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<v Speaker 5>the problem is that other countries have a much lower

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<v Speaker 5>corporate tax rate and businesses will leave this country. They

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<v Speaker 5>did it before, they did it before twenty seventeen. You

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<v Speaker 5>had Burger King. They went to Canada. Tim Hortons bought

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<v Speaker 5>Burger King. And they call these inversions where they really

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of shift their corporate structure to another country.

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<v Speaker 4>But they sent them a ton of money.

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<v Speaker 5>And what it does is people are laid off in

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<v Speaker 5>this country and it really hurts the revenue coming into

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<v Speaker 5>the government.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's a no when situation.

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<v Speaker 5>And again you said it perfectly, is that companies don't

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<v Speaker 5>pay taxes, consumers do and the economy that's who suffers

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<v Speaker 3>And then there's the corollary to the tax rate being

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<v Speaker 3>high and companies moving elsewhere, and also the cost of labor.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, why do you think China end up building

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<v Speaker 3>so much manufacturing or building the manufacturing base over the

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<v Speaker 3>years is because they have cheap, sometimes slave labor that

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<v Speaker 3>can make products and without the you know, pesky things

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<v Speaker 3>like EPA mandates and edicts. Osha, Oh my god. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>just businesses. International businesses go wherever it is they can

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<v Speaker 3>build their products or provide their services for less money.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the regulatory overburden we have here in the

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<v Speaker 3>United States, which is an enemy to productivity here and

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<v Speaker 3>investment in America in and of itself.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, at times we don't want to win the

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<v Speaker 5>race to the bottom. This time we do with the

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<v Speaker 5>corporate tax rate. We want to that's a wellfs corporate

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<v Speaker 5>tax rate to bring as many businesses in. And listen,

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<v Speaker 5>they came back in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. They came

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<v Speaker 5>back to the country because they saw a better economic

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<v Speaker 5>better economic conditions here.

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<v Speaker 3>No doubt about it. And I think COVID woke us

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<v Speaker 3>up to the reality that we better start manufacturing our

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<v Speaker 3>own stuff because if we get into a serious war

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<v Speaker 3>with China, we aren't going to have anything here.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Dave, let's pause, and I am I'm puzzling over our

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<v Speaker 3>next subject matter, vehicle transplants more with Dave. Dave Williams

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<v Speaker 3>a taxpayers. So that's a lot of feces, sorry, Dave.

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<v Speaker 3>After I mentioned Peter sheprier Kellawiams Seven Hills the best

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<v Speaker 3>real estate team you could ever hope to find. Since

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<v Speaker 3>a buyer's agent or a sellers agent, you're in the

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<v Speaker 3>best possible hands. They do wonderful work. They're great at

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<v Speaker 3>customer service and programs galore that nobody else is offering.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh like instant offer my favorite program because I've been

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<v Speaker 3>the headache and hass little selling house before and thanks

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<v Speaker 3>to my wife for managing the most of the headaches.

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<v Speaker 3>While I was working at the new job. We had

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<v Speaker 3>a house to sell up in Chicago and staging it

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<v Speaker 3>and keeping it clean and getting the dogs out of

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<v Speaker 3>the house and all that, you know, for three months.

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<v Speaker 3>Different real estate market back then. But if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to deal that, you don't want to paint anything,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't want to upgrade or improve, you just want

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<v Speaker 3>Protecting Taxpayers dot org. Dave, I'm inclined to read a

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<v Speaker 3>troubled guts close quote Wow, how did that make How

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<v Speaker 3>did that make it? Into the Taxpayer Protection Alliance reporting?

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<v Speaker 3>Dave Williams, you wrote the article, let's drive, let's drive

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<v Speaker 5>I wrote the article, and someone actually edited this and

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<v Speaker 4>That's the miracle of this op ed.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, Brian, the science is evolving in ways

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<v Speaker 4>Jane, replacement therapy. Now we have people transplants where.

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<v Speaker 5>People are are really seeing the benefit of these new procedures,

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<v Speaker 5>and the FDA is not. And the FDA is putting

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<v Speaker 5>roadblocks in every place possible to stop these new products,

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<v Speaker 5>these new procedures from coming to the market. And they're

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<v Speaker 5>scientifically proven, these things are working.

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<v Speaker 4>And the FDA is not allowing that.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, the FDA receives billions of dollars and user fees

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<v Speaker 4>These products, for these procedures. They are not.

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<v Speaker 5>They are putting up roadblocks wherever they can, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and as weird as what I just read sounds,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with you. I have read. I mean, it's been

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<v Speaker 3>face in terms of our collective health and this your

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<v Speaker 3>gut bacteria impacts so many aspects of your life and

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<v Speaker 3>problem we face these days, but there are all kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of problems that this procedure, this technique of using you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you have a bureaucracy, and the bureaucracy stands in

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<v Speaker 5>the way. And if you look at the drug approval process,

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<v Speaker 5>you are not guaranteed to get that drug approved unless

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<v Speaker 5>you're a vaccine and it goes pretty quickly. But if

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<v Speaker 5>you have a drug and if they have a threshold

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<v Speaker 5>of ninety five percent, efficacy not safety. Safety is a

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<v Speaker 5>whole different thing. Efficacy how efficient it is. If it

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<v Speaker 4>Brian, would you take a drug it is.

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<v Speaker 5>Ninety four point five percent effective in a heartbeat?

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<v Speaker 4>I would do that. And that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty damn good odds. And might it be And

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<v Speaker 3>let me just suggest this day, you don't need to

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<v Speaker 3>buy into my theory on this. Like bioidentical hormones, which

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<v Speaker 3>can't patent them because they're bioidentical. If they exist in nature,

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<v Speaker 3>then the pharmaceutical companies can't do anything about it, and

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<v Speaker 3>Feces is sort of ubiquitous, Dave. And maybe because they

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<v Speaker 3>can't patent you know, someone's stool and apparently there are

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<v Speaker 3>stool donation sites on here. You mentioned in your article

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<v Speaker 3>that they don't want that to come on the market

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<v Speaker 3>because it might interfere with the patents they have on

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<v Speaker 3>things that are supposed to correct your problems.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, and look what we're doing with sending stool samples

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<v Speaker 5>through the mail to get diagnosed for a certain illnesses.

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<v Speaker 5>And this has become common. But the FDA threw up,

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<v Speaker 5>threw up roadblocks for this when this initially came out.

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<v Speaker 5>But now this is standard, This is standard for people

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<v Speaker 5>are you know, early detection systems for people to uh,

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<v Speaker 4>And again it's the FDA standing in the way of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and there are no edicts or mandates that force

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<v Speaker 3>you to get a stool replace a stool sample to going.

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<v Speaker 3>This is an elective procedure. This is something that you

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I can't imagine a lot of people would

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<v Speaker 3>I might, I might point out, you know, I get that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not quite sure if i'd stand a line to

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<v Speaker 5>We just want people to have the option to do this,

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<v Speaker 5>and the FDA is taking away those options.

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<v Speaker 3>In a nod to Thomas Massey, I'm thinking of raw

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to drink raw milk. No one's forcing

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<v Speaker 3>and you know it comes with some risks, then fine,

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<v Speaker 3>you can take this risk, like the ninety four point

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<v Speaker 3>Stick around one more, Dave, we'll talk about IRS Overreach

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<v Speaker 3>Prevention Act and maybe get a little insight into the

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<v Speaker 3>Happy Wednesday. Taxpayer text lines Dave Williams. Dave, I like

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<v Speaker 3>this IRS Overreach Prevention Act you can get. You can

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<v Speaker 3>do your taxes pretty cheaply out here in the real

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<v Speaker 3>world by yourself with some inexpensive software. So why we

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<v Speaker 3>need the federal government to do it?

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<v Speaker 4>Wow?

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<v Speaker 5>So the IRS has started this new direct file program.

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<v Speaker 6>Where from the bottom of their hearts, they will prepare

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<v Speaker 5>They will prepare your returns. Obviously a huge conflict of interest. Yes, thanks,

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<v Speaker 5>mister or missus. IRS is not gonna look at your

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<v Speaker 5>tax return and think, hmm, mister Williams. We're going to

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<v Speaker 5>because we're the IRS and that's what we're what we

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<v Speaker 5>want to do. Obviously, a huge conflict of interest. The

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<v Speaker 5>IRS cannot even protect basic information that they're holding and

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<v Speaker 5>now they want more of our financial information, a parendous idea,

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<v Speaker 5>and someone in Congress is finally standing up and saying, no,

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<v Speaker 5>we need to shut down the direct file program. We

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<v Speaker 5>submitted foya's Freedom of Information Acts to the irs, asking

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<v Speaker 5>them how much this program was going to cost, and

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<v Speaker 5>they said they have no records that are responsive, They

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<v Speaker 5>taxpayer to fully implement this system. And we ask for

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<v Speaker 5>foyas from a couple of years or information from a

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let me ask you this direct question. Are they

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<v Speaker 3>They are, but don't they have to have a specific

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<v Speaker 3>congressional authorization to launch a brand new, extraordinarily expensive program.

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<v Speaker 4>They are not authorized, And they lied to Congress.

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<v Speaker 5>They said that they were going to do a pilot program,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're asking Congress for permission to do a pilot program.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, guess what.

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<v Speaker 5>Today They had the program already set up, and they

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<v Speaker 5>part of the software done, and now they want full

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<v Speaker 5>implementation that could cost billions of dollars and they got

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<v Speaker 5>zero authorization from Congress, and that's why some members of

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<v Speaker 5>the House of Representatives aren't very happy right now, and

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<v Speaker 5>they're trying to shut this down. I mean, obviously we're

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<v Speaker 5>working with them, but they're trying to shut this down asap.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. Being the lawyer and recognizing the complicated issue of standing.

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<v Speaker 3>If I had standing to go to court on the

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<v Speaker 3>IRS illegally or improperly using these taxpayer dollars to expand

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<v Speaker 3>a program that they had no authority to do, I'd

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<v Speaker 3>probably win that case. But getting into court and having

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<v Speaker 3>standing is a tremendous hurdle to overcome. So that's why

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<v Speaker 3>you got to pass the law rather than running into

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<v Speaker 3>court and pointing out that it is not within the

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<v Speaker 3>parameters of what the IRS is permitted to do with

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<v Speaker 3>the money.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right, and they did this pilot program this year

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<v Speaker 5>and they're expect I think fifteen million people to use

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<v Speaker 5>this system, and about one hundred thousand did. Brian, we

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<v Speaker 5>know the American people are a lot smarter than a

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<v Speaker 5>government takes us for right, yes, and we know what's

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<v Speaker 5>going on, and people understand that this is not within

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<v Speaker 5>the purview of the irs, and this is not going

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<v Speaker 5>to be an our economic interest at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and I'm sure this will break across party lines

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<v Speaker 3>for whatever reason, just because some Republicans are pushing forward

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<v Speaker 3>with this. Are there any Democrat co sponsors on this?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't believe that there are no.

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<v Speaker 3>There are none. Shocking anyway, speaking over to what the

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<v Speaker 3>American people want and don't want and what their perception is.

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<v Speaker 3>What about trade? I know, at least we know Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump has stated out loud on the record one of

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<v Speaker 3>his party platforms is to raise the tariffs on Chinese goods.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of economists are saying that will be terrible

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<v Speaker 3>for the American people because would increase the cost of

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<v Speaker 3>those goods and we don't have an alternative place to

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<v Speaker 3>get them. Uh. What does the Cato Institute poll show

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<v Speaker 3>about preferences on trade?

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<v Speaker 5>So this is fascinating because both parties, because the Democrats

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<v Speaker 5>and the Republicans are talking about teriffs, and you would

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<v Speaker 5>think that this is something that's popular, that if both

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<v Speaker 5>parties are talking about this, it must be a popular thing. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>the Cato Institute, you know, seventy five percent said that

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<v Speaker 5>consumers worry you could raise prices. Well, guess what tariffs

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<v Speaker 5>do raise prices again, going back to the corporate tax rate,

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<v Speaker 5>when you add a cost to something that gets passed

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<v Speaker 5>on to the consumer. And a lot of people, I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's over sixty percent want to have more trade

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<v Speaker 5>with foreign nations. And listen, there is a China problem,

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<v Speaker 5>but that doesn't mean we have a ten percent tariff

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<v Speaker 5>on everything that comes into this country, not to China,

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<v Speaker 5>but from other countries. That's the problem is that these

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<v Speaker 5>are you know, broad tariffs that would be put in

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<v Speaker 5>place again by both parties, and it's just raises apparances

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<v Speaker 5>on goods that are coming into this country.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and of course invites trade wars in the form

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<v Speaker 3>of counter tariffs on American produce goods we try to

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<v Speaker 3>sell abroad. I mean, that's just the next step logically,

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<v Speaker 3>it is.

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<v Speaker 5>And I remember someone from Cato, this is years ago,

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<v Speaker 5>we were talking about pre trade and they said, why

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<v Speaker 5>do businesses need permission from the government to sell their

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<v Speaker 5>things to other people and other countries? Like, why do

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<v Speaker 5>we have to get permission from the government to do everything.

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<v Speaker 4>We should just be able to do this and not have.

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<v Speaker 3>This barrier understood, But you know, the other the flip

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<v Speaker 3>side of that is the more you trade with China,

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<v Speaker 3>the more profit they make and the bigger their military gets.

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<v Speaker 3>And they do have somewhat of a problem with US

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<v Speaker 3>and how we do business, and would certainly love to

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<v Speaker 3>take over Taiwan, which is against US policy. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean there's two sides of this. You got to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to weigh both. And just remember, if there

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<v Speaker 3>are tariffs, whether you form or against them, the price

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<v Speaker 3>of goods will go up. I think we can all

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<v Speaker 3>just agree on that one concluding point, correct, Dave.

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<v Speaker 4>Undoubtedly the price we'll go up, and we have seen

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<v Speaker 4>them go up.

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<v Speaker 5>And again we're talking about massive terriffs that both parties

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<v Speaker 5>are are talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, Dave Williams again finding on line at Protecting Taxpayers

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<v Speaker 3>dot org bookmarket. You'd be glad you did, and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>look forward to another conversation with you real soon, Dave.

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<v Speaker 3>In the meantime, thanks for everything that you and the

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<v Speaker 3>folks are there are doing each and every day, and

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<v Speaker 3>best of health to all of you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks, Brian, have a great week.

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<v Speaker 3>Always a pleasure you two. Seven thirty five Sharon Coolidge

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<v Speaker 3>The enquire coming up. I'm really looking forward to this

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<v Speaker 3>city wants Mercy Health to pay back seven million dollars

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<v Speaker 3>gonna comment on taking money out of the railway fund

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<v Speaker 3>for property tax relief Tom Brinkman proposals. Signatures being circulated

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<v Speaker 3>right now. My friends in Cincinnati may be voting on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Sharon Coolidge would be up next by her stored for

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<v Speaker 3>my friends at Emory Federal Credit Union. And congratulations the

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