Speaker 1: Oh bet that trigger Warrener. This podcast may include explicit
Speaker 1: content that will take you out of your comfort zone
Speaker 1: and make you question reality. Listeners, discuestion is advised. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome back to the show. I hope you enjoyed
Speaker 1: the break during October while we ventured into some throwbacks
Speaker 1: for the Halloween special. But we're back to business today
Speaker 1: and we will before the rest of the month. We're
Speaker 1: going to finish our Programs to Kill series and then
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw a few little extra episodes out there.
Speaker 1: But I'm really excited to jump back into Program to Kill.
Speaker 1: This is Program to Kill Part Forward, and before we
Speaker 1: jump right in, I have few things that I need
Speaker 1: to do, and one of those things is a shout out.
Speaker 1: If you all were wondering how you could get a
Speaker 1: hold of you to like ask me a question or
Speaker 1: you know, just say hello and I will shout you
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Speaker 1: I think on Instagram in my bio, you can go
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Speaker 1: So step by step, go to my profile, go to
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Speaker 1: and it says contact Julia, and you leave your name,
Speaker 1: your email address, and a message and it goes straight
Speaker 1: to my email and I will respond to you or
Speaker 1: shout you out or whatever. But I get so many
Speaker 1: messages on Instagram and there are so many comments that
Speaker 1: come through on Spotify what have you. I'd need a
Speaker 1: personal fucking assistant to get back to all the comments
Speaker 1: and shit. So that's the best way to do it.
Speaker 1: And someone what's smart enough to figure this out, and
Speaker 1: here we go, says the name is Trey Dog. Okay
Speaker 1: love It says, hello, beautiful. I've been listening to you
Speaker 1: for a while now, and I absolutely love your episodes
Speaker 1: since the very beginning. I'm fucking honored. I'm sure you
Speaker 1: saw the new Netflix about the menindas boys, and I
Speaker 1: look back to see if you did an episode about them,
Speaker 1: but I did not see one. Uh covered it in
Speaker 1: I think the Pedaphocracy series. Actually, thank you. I'm sure
Speaker 1: with your fire and skills, you can do a fire
Speaker 1: episode and it's not all that it's cracked up to
Speaker 1: be as they put it on TV. If you know
Speaker 1: what the peach is saying. I'm sure you can dig
Speaker 1: up some pretty good dirt on an episode about that. Well, Trey,
Speaker 1: fucking thank you so much, brother, because I did mention
Speaker 1: it in the Program to Kill Excuse me, I did
Speaker 1: mention it in the Pedaphocracy that they killed their fucking
Speaker 1: parents because they were fucking raping on them. And I
Speaker 1: haven't watched it because I feel like I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: a bad day if I watch it. I feel like
Speaker 1: there's some stuff in there. I'm sure they put a
Speaker 1: ton of shit in there that's gonna fucking not be
Speaker 1: the truth about what really happened. It's gonna piss me off,
Speaker 1: it's gonna make me have a bad day. But what
Speaker 1: I will say is my sister watched it, and as
Speaker 1: far as I can tell from her, they're making it
Speaker 1: out to be like they weren't really raped on by
Speaker 1: their parents. Like, let me just let's say this is true,
Speaker 1: and that's what they're trying to make it out to be.
Speaker 1: How come any type of shamoo bitch with blue hair
Speaker 1: fucking comes out of the woodwork saying that they were
Speaker 1: raped and everybody's just like stop, stops their life to
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, she was raped, she was molested.
Speaker 1: All this crazy shit happened to her, and we should
Speaker 1: all stop our fucking lives because this bitch with blue hair.
Speaker 1: Fucking first off, who's raping you? Who the fuck is
Speaker 1: raping you? But anyways, we all stop our lives for
Speaker 1: somebody who come out of the woodwork and say they
Speaker 1: were raped. These two kids literally murdered their parents because
Speaker 1: they were raping on them so much they couldn't take
Speaker 1: it anymore. They snapped, they had a mental breakdown. They
Speaker 1: fucking murdered the shit out of their parents, fucking blew
Speaker 1: the fucking faces off of their parents. And I talked
Speaker 1: about it in comparison to Lizzie Borden because she also
Speaker 1: was getting raped by her father and fucking acts the
Speaker 1: face off of him. So I don't know why they're
Speaker 1: trying to make it out out to be that they
Speaker 1: were making it up that they were getting raped by
Speaker 1: their parents in order to have some type of defense
Speaker 1: to get off on the crime, Like why would they
Speaker 1: make that up? Sure, they don't want to go to ill,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, this is the realest shit.
Speaker 1: These really wealthy influential people raping on their kids. Their
Speaker 1: kids snap, they can't take it anymore, and they fucking
Speaker 1: blow their parents' faces off. It seems logical to me,
Speaker 1: but I guess I'm in the minority because they're trying
Speaker 1: to make it. And that's why I don't like to
Speaker 1: watch these HBO and Netflix specials because like, am already
Speaker 1: I rate. I'm already pissed the fuck off, Trey, you
Speaker 1: need to go back. I don't remember which segment of
Speaker 1: the Pedaphocracy I put that in, but it's one through four,
Speaker 1: you know, fucking it's one of them. Now I have
Speaker 1: another shout out, let me get to it. Someone that
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Speaker 1: and great you are all the time. Her name is Cindy,
Speaker 1: and fucking Cindy. Hello, I love you too. I think
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Speaker 1: Paytreon and things I'm great, fucking you get a massive
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Speaker 1: and so again. If you want to send me a message,
Speaker 1: do it through Instagram. Via my link tree. It'll go
Speaker 1: straight to my email and I'll read it on the
Speaker 1: next episode that I record. I'm not sure how long
Speaker 1: it's gonna take me to put this out in comparison
Speaker 1: to when I got the message, but you know, if
Speaker 1: you are subscribed and listening to all the episodes, you'll
Speaker 1: hear it. You'll hear it, right Trey, Cindy, I got you.
Speaker 1: I fucking I got you. Love you guys. So today
Speaker 1: is Programmed to Kill, part four, and I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: us off with a little quote as usual, here we go. Quote.
Speaker 1: It's more of a shadow than anything else. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a human being, but yet you can't accept it,
Speaker 1: the killing itself. It's like, say you're walking down the road.
Speaker 1: Half of me will go this way, and the other
Speaker 1: half goes that way. The right hand side didn't know
Speaker 1: what the left hand side was going to do. End quote.
Speaker 1: That was Henry Lee Lucas describing how he perceived his
Speaker 1: victims before killing them. Interesting how he mentions the left
Speaker 1: hand path and the right hand path. And so this
Speaker 1: is where we're gonna get started today. I'm if you
Speaker 1: were wondering, not really wearing any makeup except for some eyebrows.
Speaker 1: Trying this whole like loving myself thing and accepting who
Speaker 1: I am. I don't know how well it's going, though,
Speaker 1: Love yourself or nobody will. Right. All right, folks, We're
Speaker 1: about to get into some serious biscuits and gravy in
Speaker 1: today's episode. So hold onto your hats, okay, and keep
Speaker 1: your questions till the end. Maybe I'll answer them for you.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Most of you out there are probably
Speaker 1: familiar with what is considered the classic serial killer profile.
Speaker 1: This was a notion first put forth by the FBI,
Speaker 1: which coined the term serial killer and pioneered the concept
Speaker 1: of profiling in an attempt to understand the phenomenon of
Speaker 1: mass murder, like fucking criminal minds or some shit which
Speaker 1: I love. By the way, I had the biggest crush
Speaker 1: on Spencer Reed in that show, Like, Oh, my fucking God,
Speaker 1: with your smart, fucking, sexy, fucking ugh, I would hair
Speaker 1: that ass up anyways. It appears to be the case, though,
Speaker 1: that the concept of the serial killer profile was put
Speaker 1: forth largely to misinform the public, which seems to be
Speaker 1: the thing, right. They created the illusion of the serial killer,
Speaker 1: like in the case of Henry Lee Lucas. Few, if any,
Speaker 1: of the elements of the serial killer profile apply to
Speaker 1: Henry Lee Lucas and so many others. But yet we're
Speaker 1: supposed to believe, as he was murdering people's asses, that
Speaker 1: he fits the serial killer profile. For instance, Okay, serial
Speaker 1: killers are said to act alone, driven to do so
Speaker 1: only by their own private demons like Dexter and the
Speaker 1: Dark Passenger. Serial Killers are also suppose to be so
Speaker 1: far removed from ordinary human behavior right that they would
Speaker 1: never share their private passions with other people. But in
Speaker 1: Henry's case, this is an obvious false notion. It has
Speaker 1: been officially acknowledged that Lucas worked with not just one,
Speaker 1: but at times as many as three accomplices. As I
Speaker 1: have mentioned previously, Otis Tool's pre teen niece and nephew
Speaker 1: were frequently brought along to witness and at times participate
Speaker 1: in the crimes of Henry and Otis, so that fucking
Speaker 1: bit of the profile is totally inaccurate. And it is
Speaker 1: also claimed that serial killers target a particular type of victim,
Speaker 1: similar in age, gender, race, hairstyle, attractiveness, and other physical attributes. Again,
Speaker 1: in Henry's case, this simply not fit the known facts. Actually,
Speaker 1: Henry's victims had very little, if anything in common with
Speaker 1: one another. The victims' ages ranged from children to the elderly.
Speaker 1: Both genders and races were also well represented. And fucking
Speaker 1: nothing fit the profile. And as Lucas himself once stated,
Speaker 1: quote there's been a mixed breed of people as far
Speaker 1: as the killings themselves end quote and fucking that is
Speaker 1: the truest statement of the year, because this does not
Speaker 1: fit any type of profile. And of course, it is
Speaker 1: also claimed that serial killers follow a readily identifiable modus operandi,
Speaker 1: with the means of obtaining their victims and the trajectory
Speaker 1: of the crime following a well defined pattern. Again, that
Speaker 1: was clearly not the case with Henry Lee Lucas, whose
Speaker 1: victims were obtained in a variety of ways and who
Speaker 1: inflicted death by a variety of means, including bludgeoning, stabbing, strangulation, shooting,
Speaker 1: and suffocation. Okay, so here's this. Some were killed in
Speaker 1: their homes while others were abducted and taken to remote locations.
Speaker 1: Some were sexually abused both before and after death, while
Speaker 1: others were not. Some were cannibalized, some were left on
Speaker 1: display for maximum impact. Upon their discovery, while others were
Speaker 1: left so as to not be discovered at all. So obviously,
Speaker 1: Henry does not fit the fucking profile of a serial
Speaker 1: killer in this way, like at all. I mean in
Speaker 1: other ways as well. But the point is, Henry Lee
Speaker 1: did not even come close to matching the profile of
Speaker 1: what he was supposed to be. And strangely enough, the
Speaker 1: most remarkable aspect of the Henry Lee Lucas story is
Speaker 1: that it's not actually remarkable at all. So in reviewing
Speaker 1: the case histories of more than two dozen other alleged
Speaker 1: serial killers, it becomes readily apparent that few, if any,
Speaker 1: fit the stupid fucking profile. Okay, The victims of Rascindas Ramirez,
Speaker 1: for instance, raged in age from twenty one to eighty
Speaker 1: eight years old, with a mix of both males and females.
Speaker 1: The cause of death varied as well, with most being bludgeoned,
Speaker 1: though one was shot in the head, another stabbed, and
Speaker 1: yet another had an ice pig buried in their head.
Speaker 1: But I will say though almost all of the weapons
Speaker 1: used for inflicting death by both Lucas and Ramirez had
Speaker 1: one thing in common. They are what are termed quote
Speaker 1: weapons of opportunity. End quote. Now basically, they are weapons
Speaker 1: that were acquired at the crime scene immediately before the
Speaker 1: murders were committed, which, by the way, actually precisely mirrors
Speaker 1: the means by which the CIA has historically taught its
Speaker 1: assassins to kill coincidence, I think not and get this shit.
Speaker 1: A CIA training manual entitled A Study of Assassination advises
Speaker 1: the would be killer to do quote the simplest local
Speaker 1: tools are often the most efficient means of assassination. A hammer, axe, wrench, screwdriver,
Speaker 1: fire poker, kitchen knife, lamp stand, or any thing hard, heavy,
Speaker 1: and handy will suffice. All Such improvised weapons have the
Speaker 1: important advantage of availability and apparent innocence. The assassin may
Speaker 1: accidentally be searched before the act, and should not carry
Speaker 1: an incriminating device if any sort of lethal weapon can
Speaker 1: be improvised at or near the site. End quote. Ah,
Speaker 1: ain't that fucking nice. I'm glad there are so thorough
Speaker 1: fucking dicks. This is how the fucking they get away
Speaker 1: with this shit. Anyways, this advice has been taken to
Speaker 1: heart by a good number of serial killers. Quote unquote.
Speaker 1: The Mafia assassination service known as Murder Incorporated. Yes, this
Speaker 1: is a real fucking thing, the brainchild of the Lanski
Speaker 1: Luciano Syndicate, which had extensive connections to US intelligence agencies,
Speaker 1: had a remarkably similar philosophy. Just by the way, but
Speaker 1: so Henry Lee recounts in the Hand of Death book
Speaker 1: that his training by the Hand of Death cult followed
Speaker 1: the same time honored tradition. Of course, if you ask
Speaker 1: the FBI, they will assure you that satanic cults and
Speaker 1: satanic crime do not exist in modern day America. But
Speaker 1: it's important to remember that this is the very same
Speaker 1: FBI that, during the reign of Murder Incorporated and for
Speaker 1: several decades thereafter, refused to acknowledge the existence of organized
Speaker 1: crime in America. So go fucking figure. It's also the
Speaker 1: same FBI that for years years ignored and denied the
Speaker 1: resurgence of the Glueklux Klan in the early part of
Speaker 1: the twentieth century. The FBI has a long fucking history
Speaker 1: of denying the existence of the most notfarious groups devoted
Speaker 1: to terrorizing our own American society. But so anyways, other
Speaker 1: than utilizing weapons of opportunity, the most common means by
Speaker 1: which professional assassins carry out their contracts is with a
Speaker 1: small caliber bullet fired at point blank range to the head,
Speaker 1: typically either a twenty two or a twenty five caliber handgun.
Speaker 1: In afflicting such a wound is quick, efficient, relatively quiet,
Speaker 1: reasonably clean, and most importantly, highly lethal. Contrary to conventional wisdom,
Speaker 1: a small caliber round to the head is more often
Speaker 1: fatal than a law larger caliber bullet because the smaller
Speaker 1: projectile has enough velocity to make the initial penetration into
Speaker 1: the dense skull bones, but not enough to make an
Speaker 1: exit wound. Fucking brilliant, right, because once inside the fucking
Speaker 1: brain cavity, the slug will tend to ricochet around the
Speaker 1: curved inner bone surfaces, causing considerable damage to the brain
Speaker 1: in the process. Fucking turns your brains into spaghetti essentially,
Speaker 1: right now. A larger caliber round, on the other hand,
Speaker 1: is much more likely to penetrate clean through the fucking skull,
Speaker 1: making a huge, fucking JFK mess all over the place. Right, So,
Speaker 1: the smaller gun, when fired from very close range, is
Speaker 1: a much more efficient killing device. These guns are also
Speaker 1: very easy to conceal and are the easiest weapons to
Speaker 1: silence and there is another reason that these are often
Speaker 1: the weapons of choice for contract hits. Smaller caliber slugs,
Speaker 1: particularly those from a twenty two caliber weapon, are virtually
Speaker 1: impossible to trace or to match up to any particular gun. Literally,
Speaker 1: millions of twenty two caliber weapons are in homes all
Speaker 1: across the country, and it is by far the most
Speaker 1: popular mass produced ammunition on the market, and a twenty
Speaker 1: two caliber bullet that has punched through the skull and
Speaker 1: careemed around the skull cavity is virtually guaranteed to deform
Speaker 1: to such an extent that a ballistics match will be
Speaker 1: fucking impossible. Now, by the way, just saying, do not
Speaker 1: take this shit as some kind of advice. I feel
Speaker 1: like you all are very smart people, but still I
Speaker 1: just have to say say this is purely informational and
Speaker 1: not motivational. You feel me, but so Matching a flatten
Speaker 1: slug that's been literally dug out of a victim's head
Speaker 1: to a particular gun is like finding the proverbial needle
Speaker 1: in the shit stack. And for this reason, a smaller
Speaker 1: caliber contact wound to the head, usually to the side
Speaker 1: of the head, has long been the mark of a
Speaker 1: professional assassin, and isn't it weird that the vast majority
Speaker 1: of the victims of certain serial killers were killed either
Speaker 1: by means of a weapon of opportunity or they were
Speaker 1: shot in the head with a small caliber weapon execution style.
Speaker 1: Fucking isn't that interesting? And more often than not, there
Speaker 1: is no specific type of victim that is targeted, nor
Speaker 1: is their pas and asked to how the killings are
Speaker 1: carried out. Take for example, another serial killing, Ramirez, Los
Speaker 1: Angeles famous night Stalker and dude, hair me out, okay,
Speaker 1: because I arny, you know what you're gonna say. Just listen, dude.
Speaker 1: Most of the night Stalker victims were killed how fucking
Speaker 1: a small caliber handgun to the left side of the
Speaker 1: head while they slept. Both a twenty two and twenty
Speaker 1: five caliber weapon was used. The remaining victims were what
Speaker 1: fucking bludgeoned or stabbed to death with household items including
Speaker 1: a hammer and a lamp and a vase. Don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, some of the victims were mutilated, right, We
Speaker 1: can't leave that out to varying degrees, including two that
Speaker 1: were hacked up with machetes. And it doesn't stop there
Speaker 1: because a couple of them were subjected to electrocute sin nah.
Speaker 1: So their ages didn't matter either. They ranged from young
Speaker 1: adults to eighty years old, with both men and women
Speaker 1: well represented, and there was no discrimination shown as to
Speaker 1: the race ethnicity, none of that shit of the victims either,
Speaker 1: So obviously Richard fucking er mir as mister knight stalker
Speaker 1: shitthead bitch content was the perfect example of someone who
Speaker 1: was programmed to kill. Following the CIA fucking handout to
Speaker 1: the letter and in other fucking news in what were
Speaker 1: dubbed as the Sunset Strip murders, also in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: the victims were also dispatched with a twenty five caliber
Speaker 1: contact wound to the head, except for one victim who
Speaker 1: was shot in the chest and sliced open. But besides that,
Speaker 1: sorry fuck, they all got headshots, oh my bad, and
Speaker 1: two of them were also beheaded, and only one of
Speaker 1: the dead people who had likely been an accomplice, was male,
Speaker 1: the rest females of various ethnicities. But it doesn't stop there,
Speaker 1: and by the way, the Sunset Strip Murders, y'all need
Speaker 1: to fucking listen to my Laurel Canyon shit. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but anyways, onto the next fucking asshole. Fucking Herb Mullin
Speaker 1: o K from Santa Cruz is sure to have been,
Speaker 1: if he was actually guilty of the murders attributed to him,
Speaker 1: the most creative serial killer in the history of modern crime.
Speaker 1: The seemingly random set of crimes credited to Herbie Stans
Speaker 1: is probably the most ludicrous use of the term serial
Speaker 1: killer on a record. So let's take a look, shall we.
Speaker 1: The first victim was a homeless man beaten to death
Speaker 1: with a baseball bat for no apparent reason on a
Speaker 1: lonely stretcher road. The next was a girl who was
Speaker 1: repeatedly stabbed, then sliced open, mutilated, and generally made a
Speaker 1: mess of. The next five victims were all killed in
Speaker 1: a single night at two different residences, both occupied by
Speaker 1: known drug traffickers and their families. In one house, all
Speaker 1: three victims, two of whom were chill children, were shot
Speaker 1: once in the head with a twenty two caliber weapon
Speaker 1: and then stabbed a few times for good measure. At
Speaker 1: the other house, a slightly less professional job was done.
Speaker 1: The two victims at that address, who were close friends
Speaker 1: of the victims at the other crime scene just by
Speaker 1: the way, were shot multiple times with a twenty two
Speaker 1: caliber weapon in various parts of the body and then
Speaker 1: stabbed repeatedly. Now, the next four victims were a group
Speaker 1: of teenage boys on a camping trip who were each
Speaker 1: shot once in the head and multiple times in the body.
Speaker 1: But interestingly enough, with this one, the boys literally had
Speaker 1: their own twenty two caliber rifle within arm's reach of
Speaker 1: where they were killed. Weapon of opportunity. Who knows, but
Speaker 1: they say all four boys were allegedly killed by a
Speaker 1: lone assailant before they could reach for the gun, despite
Speaker 1: the fact that Mullen would have had to reload his
Speaker 1: six shot twenty two caliber automatic at least once to
Speaker 1: complete the slaughter. But who cares about details like that,
Speaker 1: not our justice system. But so, following the mass execution
Speaker 1: of the teenagers, Mullen, I guess allegedly decided to test
Speaker 1: his skills as a sniper, picking off an ex boxer
Speaker 1: as they strolled across his front yard. But speaking of that,
Speaker 1: in nearby Sonny, Sacramento, California, Richard Chase got his sniper
Speaker 1: killing out of the way right off the bat. His
Speaker 1: first victim was dropped in front of his home with
Speaker 1: a twenty two round fired from a parked car, just
Speaker 1: the way Mullen had allegedly done it. The rest of
Speaker 1: the Sacramento victims were killed with a twenty two caliber
Speaker 1: contact wound to the left side of the head, sometimes
Speaker 1: followed by a second shot. Some were then mutilated. Ages
Speaker 1: ranged from twenty months old too fifty one years old,
Speaker 1: with both males and females being represented. But on with
Speaker 1: the murder tour. Here in Wendy, Chicago, the Ripper crew
Speaker 1: killed a string of women, both black and white, by
Speaker 1: a variety of means, before then adding something new to
Speaker 1: this serial killer repertoire, a gang style drive by shooting
Speaker 1: of known drug dealers. It's always good practice for any
Speaker 1: aspiring serial killer to throw at least one obvious drug
Speaker 1: hit into the mix, throw them off the trail, right.
Speaker 1: This is in case, you know, people start catching on
Speaker 1: to the whole serial killers are not necessarily random acts
Speaker 1: of violence thing. You know, they leave that out of
Speaker 1: the serial killer profile and documentaries. But just as David McGowan,
Speaker 1: oh wait, you can't. He's fucking dead, probably for putting
Speaker 1: all these pieces together. But so let's continue on, right, Consider,
Speaker 1: for example, the case of Charles can't pronounce his last
Speaker 1: name it's like ng or something like that, and Leonard Lake,
Speaker 1: who I have mentioned before. At least a few of
Speaker 1: their known victims were deeply involved in drug trafficking. Other
Speaker 1: than that, the victims had very very little in common.
Speaker 1: Now excavated from the pair's compound where the remains of
Speaker 1: seven men, five women, and two little babies, though there
Speaker 1: were probably way more undiscovered victims, how the pair's victims
Speaker 1: were killed was impossible to determine, which was also true
Speaker 1: for the cases of the other killers who fall into
Speaker 1: the Collector's category, including Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Bob Burdella,
Speaker 1: Gary Heidnik, and Herb Baumeister. In all these cases, all
Speaker 1: that remained of the unfortunate victims were various bones and
Speaker 1: in some cases genitalia, internal organs, and slabs of flesh.
Speaker 1: And it's actually within this group that the most consistency
Speaker 1: is shown in the targeting of their victims. This is
Speaker 1: gonna get really interesting. Now, let me take a sip
Speaker 1: of my angry orchard, which usually gives me horrible acid reflux.
Speaker 1: Wish me luck, all right, now, the known victims of Gacy, Burdella, Baumeister,
Speaker 1: and Dahmer were all young men, gay or bisexual. Even still,
Speaker 1: there was not necessarily a specific victim profile in all
Speaker 1: these cases. Dahmer's victims ranged in age from fourteen, as
Speaker 1: I have spoken about before, to thirty one, and were
Speaker 1: of various races. Even though the fucking Netflix documentary made
Speaker 1: it out to be some woke, fucking racial fucking issue,
Speaker 1: it's not. It's a CIA fucking issue. But anyways, even
Speaker 1: though the Netflix show tried to make all this BLM
Speaker 1: esque bullshit happen, it wasn't like that at all. Okay, Now,
Speaker 1: something that I forgot to mention because I released an
Speaker 1: episode on the Exorcist and how all this weird stuff
Speaker 1: surrounded making the movie the nineteen seventy three I want
Speaker 1: to say, the original Exorcist movie. Fucking Jeff Dahmer watched
Speaker 1: the Exorcist. I think it might have been part two,
Speaker 1: the heretic fucking to charge himself up to go murder
Speaker 1: these people and fucking dismember them and shit, y'all. Probably
Speaker 1: I might release the Exorcist episode for the Cult just
Speaker 1: because it's just a high strangeness that went on with
Speaker 1: that movie. And then Jeff Dahmer fucking program to kill
Speaker 1: Jeff Dahmer fucking watches The Exorcist to get himself all
Speaker 1: charged up to go fucking murder people like. It's just
Speaker 1: really really weird. But onto. Something else I want to
Speaker 1: discuss with you is that even in the cases where
Speaker 1: these killers are given a catchy moniker that is supposed
Speaker 1: to reflect a distinctive signature to their slayings, okay, they're
Speaker 1: actually is rarely a consistent mo Let me give you
Speaker 1: some examples. The victims of the Boston strangler, for instance,
Speaker 1: ranged in age from nineteen to seventy five, were both
Speaker 1: black and white, and varied considerably in physical attractiveness, and
Speaker 1: they were not, contrary to popular mythology, fucking strangled in
Speaker 1: the same way. Okay, in some cases it was done manually,
Speaker 1: in others with ligatures acquired from the scene and fucking
Speaker 1: Some were stabbed, mutilated, and or sexually assaulted as well.
Speaker 1: And then most of them were left on display, but
Speaker 1: just one was discreetly covered with a blanket to throw
Speaker 1: off the scent. I guess I don't know. In other
Speaker 1: strangler news, the Los Angeles Hill Side stranglers victims ranged
Speaker 1: in age from twelve to twenty eight and varied considerably
Speaker 1: by height, weight, race, skin tone, and hair color. And
Speaker 1: in addition to strangulation, various other techniques were utilized, including electrocution,
Speaker 1: lethal injection, and lethal gas, all methods improvised with materials
Speaker 1: at hand, and strangely enough, all methods used by the
Speaker 1: state to perform judicial executions. Doesn't sound like many were
Speaker 1: strangled on a hillside, does it. How about Edmund Kemper,
Speaker 1: dubbed the co ed Killer. His victims were definitely not
Speaker 1: all fucking co eds. Two of them were his fucking
Speaker 1: grandparents okay, and another was his mother so and not
Speaker 1: only that, several others we were years too young to
Speaker 1: be a co ed. Oh. In speaking of that, I
Speaker 1: thought of another way. I'm gonna tell people how my
Speaker 1: boyfriend and I met that I don't want them to
Speaker 1: know that we have shows there's an eleven year age
Speaker 1: gap between us, and next time someone asks, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell him he used to babysit me. Little inside joke,
Speaker 1: you know. Anyways, back to the not so co ed Killer.
Speaker 1: His victims were killed with a combination of point blank
Speaker 1: bullet wounds to the head and stabbing, strangulation, suffocation, and
Speaker 1: bludgeoning with weapons of you guessed it, op portunity. Now
Speaker 1: on to one of my personal favorites, in the case
Speaker 1: of Theodore or Robert Mundy. It is frequently claimed that
Speaker 1: all of his victims were remarkably similar in appearance, and
Speaker 1: many books chronicling Bundy's exploits reinforced this notion by including
Speaker 1: a carefully selected set of photos of the slain women,
Speaker 1: who did kind of resemble one another to a very
Speaker 1: small degree. Overall, though, the reality is the victims varied
Speaker 1: in height, weight, build, attractiveness, hair color and style, and
Speaker 1: various other physical attributes. As for the manner in which
Speaker 1: they were abducted and killed, that is a fucking matter
Speaker 1: of speculation, okay, because many were never found, and of
Speaker 1: those that were, most of the time they were fucking skulls. Okay,
Speaker 1: fucking skeletons that were recovered. Now, how can you tell
Speaker 1: how they were killed by looking at a fucking skeleton, right,
Speaker 1: But it was determined from what they could tell of
Speaker 1: the other bodies, the cause of death was by means
Speaker 1: of weapons of opportunity. Okay. Now take this for an example,
Speaker 1: when we're talking about the CIA program to kill a
Speaker 1: handbook in the infamous attack at the chi Omega sorority
Speaker 1: house that I spoke about before the crimes were committed,
Speaker 1: with a club acquired immediately before entering the property. Some
Speaker 1: say it was actually just a fucking tree branch. The
Speaker 1: girl who positively identified him as the serial killer said
Speaker 1: that he was holding a tree branch. Okay. The chi
Speaker 1: Omega bloodbath, by the way, was in huge contrast to
Speaker 1: Bundy's previous alleged crimes, which involved the abductions and killings
Speaker 1: of single victims. This crime was completely outside of his
Speaker 1: Why would he suddenly change things? Why not abduct Why
Speaker 1: not single victims anymore? It's not matching the profile. This
Speaker 1: crime instead seemed to borrow heavily from the rampage perpetrated
Speaker 1: by Richard Speck. Heard of him. Let me put y'all
Speaker 1: on game, all right. Richard Benjamin Speck was an American
Speaker 1: mass murderer who killed eight student nurses in their South Deering,
Speaker 1: Chicago residents via raping, stabbing, strangling, slashing their throats, or
Speaker 1: a combination of them on the night of July thirteenth
Speaker 1: through the fourteenth, nineteen sixty six. But actually, before we
Speaker 1: get right into Richard Benjamin speck back to Bundy for
Speaker 1: just a second, though, something else that came to my mind.
Speaker 1: Bundy's final murder before his capture was the killing of
Speaker 1: a twelve year old child, which also did not match
Speaker 1: his modus operandi, And that one always bothered me because
Speaker 1: it was so far outside the norm for the Bundy victims.
Speaker 1: He had never abducted, raped, or murdered someone so young
Speaker 1: before from a school, no less, and that was right
Speaker 1: after he broke his modus operandi at the fucking cai
Speaker 1: Omegas rority house. So this whole profiling thing, while it
Speaker 1: makes a great show for criminal minds or some shit
Speaker 1: like that the fantasy world, a lot of the most
Speaker 1: infamous serial killers quote unquote of all time really did
Speaker 1: not have a profile that you could stick to. As
Speaker 1: for Richard Speckle, he also showed no consistency in the
Speaker 1: means by which his victims were killed, other than that
Speaker 1: all died from wounds inflicted with weapons improvised at the scene.
Speaker 1: As I said earlier, death came by way of various
Speaker 1: commons of strangulation, stabbing, slashing of the throat, and breaking
Speaker 1: of the neck. And so it goes for virtually all
Speaker 1: serial killer cases. Okay, it's random, it's not ever in
Speaker 1: the same way. And most of the time you can't
Speaker 1: even tell how they fucking died kids, they're just finding skeletons. Okay,
Speaker 1: how about New York's son O Sam? How about that one?
Speaker 1: He targeted men and women of various ages. How about
Speaker 1: how about fucking Arthur shaw Cross, the Genesee River killer. Okay,
Speaker 1: he killed two young children, one was a boy, along
Speaker 1: with a string of women of various ages. So where's
Speaker 1: the fucking profile? Tell me? Most were strangled and or
Speaker 1: bludgeoned with weapons acquired at the scene. The one was drowned.
Speaker 1: Most were mutilated, cannibalized, and sexually assault random as fuck.
Speaker 1: Should we talk about the Gainesville Ripper Danny Rolling. He
Speaker 1: included one male among his five victims. All were stabbed
Speaker 1: and slashed to death, some were posed, and one was beheaded.
Speaker 1: Where's the profile? Where's the fucking profile? And if Netflix
Speaker 1: made a documentary about the Gainesville Ripper, they would say
Speaker 1: that it was so easy to see because he was
Speaker 1: ripping their throats out and he was no. Okay, no,
Speaker 1: it was random. It didn't make sense. None of it
Speaker 1: was adding up. He beheaded a motherfucker? Why wasn't he
Speaker 1: called the Gainesville beheader? Not catchy enough? Because they love
Speaker 1: to sensationalize these serial killers that they create. They love
Speaker 1: to sensationalize them. So maybe, just maybe these monikers that
Speaker 1: they come up with are nothing but advertisements. They are
Speaker 1: literally put in place to sen say, shinalies, these fucking
Speaker 1: program to kill assassins. And finally, lest we forget the
Speaker 1: Manson family, whose victims ranged in age from teenaged Steven
Speaker 1: parent to middle aged Lino LaBianca and include both men
Speaker 1: and women killed with various weapons, including a twenty two
Speaker 1: caliber handgun. So clearly, there are any number of serial
Speaker 1: killer cases in which there is no defining modus operandi
Speaker 1: and in which the deceased don't fit any kind of
Speaker 1: specific victim profile. In fact, it's kind of difficult to
Speaker 1: find a case study of any serial killer who leaves
Speaker 1: a distinct signature at each crime scene. Okay, and what
Speaker 1: of the notion of the serial killer as a lone
Speaker 1: predator was Henry and otis partnership and aberration? I think not.
Speaker 1: There are a number of serial killer cases where it
Speaker 1: is officially acknowledged that there were more than one perpetrator
Speaker 1: at the scene. The Manson family, of course, is probably
Speaker 1: the most well known case of multiple perpetrator serial killings,
Speaker 1: but less well known is the case of the Ripper
Speaker 1: Crew in Chicago in the early nineteen eighties. Described by
Speaker 1: authorities as a four man satanic cole, the Rippers, led
Speaker 1: by charismatic Robin Getch, allegedly killed as many as seven
Speaker 1: eventeen women in as many months. And then there is
Speaker 1: the case of that Charles ng can't pronounce it? Is
Speaker 1: it Nina?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Is that really how you say his last name? Fuck
Speaker 1: him anyways? Okay. Though Charles was the only one to
Speaker 1: stand trial for this series of killings in Northern California,
Speaker 1: it is acknowledged that the crimes were committed with the
Speaker 1: assistance of Leonard Lake, who committed suicide upon his arrest,
Speaker 1: and actually evidence strongly suggests that there were others involved
Speaker 1: as well, including Leonard Lake's fucking ex wife. Okay. Now,
Speaker 1: many other serial killers have worked in pairs, including the
Speaker 1: Hillside Stranglers plural and working the same Los Angeles area turf.
Speaker 1: Just one year after the Stranglers were stopped was the
Speaker 1: team of Roy Norris and Laura Rents. Pliers, Mittaker. Okay,
Speaker 1: the fucking Toolbox Killers, which I have spoken about before.
Speaker 1: Do y'all remember the fucking Halloween Murders episode I did
Speaker 1: with the Cult of Conspiracy. I talked to you about
Speaker 1: the fucking Toolbox Killers, Okay, and they basically just took
Speaker 1: over after the Hillside Stranglers were stopped their protege, if
Speaker 1: you will, And a few years after they were caught
Speaker 1: the team of Douglas Clark and Carol Bundy, who was
Speaker 1: working the very same LA streets, committing a series of
Speaker 1: killings dubbed the Sunset Strip Murders. Okay. They were also
Speaker 1: a team in the same fucking area in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: isn't that strange? And the year after they were caught
Speaker 1: another serial killer too over the LA Market, the notorious
Speaker 1: night Stalker. Come on, guys, And even though the media
Speaker 1: stated the contrary, there is a lot of fucking evidence
Speaker 1: that clearly points to multiple perpetrators, not just Richard Ramirez,
Speaker 1: So what the fuck is going on with that? It
Speaker 1: also strongly suggests that some of the killings were contract hits. Okay.
Speaker 1: As I kind of implied earlier in this episode, the
Speaker 1: same can be said of the evidence in the Herb
Speaker 1: Mullen case, and actually, as we take a more in
Speaker 1: depth look at our illustrious roster of cerial colors in
Speaker 1: these upcoming episodes, evidence almost always indicates multiple assailants with
Speaker 1: very few exceptions, and that fucking evidence is routinely ignored
Speaker 1: or buried or explained away by law enforcement authorities and
Speaker 1: the people who document the crimes of these high profile criminals.
Speaker 1: This dude, Maury Terry, who I think I may have
Speaker 1: mentioned before, has actually done a bang up job arguing
Speaker 1: the case that the Son of Sam killings were carried
Speaker 1: out by multiple cult members, despite the media portrait of
Speaker 1: David Berkowitz as the proverbial lone killer. And a lady
Speaker 1: named Susan Kelly has likewise done a great job of
Speaker 1: exposing the Boston strangler killings as the work of several killers,
Speaker 1: not just one. So I guess it should be called
Speaker 1: the Boston Stranglers, right. And even before the release of
Speaker 1: Kelly's book, which she called the Boston Stranglers Plural so creative,
Speaker 1: there had long been speculation that the killings were not
Speaker 1: the work of one man. Most of the officials involved
Speaker 1: in the investigation, in fact never believed that a single
Speaker 1: killer was responsible. Betcha didn't know that. And actually, of
Speaker 1: the eight members of the psychiatric panel convened to develop
Speaker 1: a profile, seven believed that there were at least two perpetrators,
Speaker 1: some said maybe even three with the Boston Stranglers, and
Speaker 1: even in those cases that seemed to come closest to
Speaker 1: matching the classic serial killer profiles, such as the John
Speaker 1: Wayne Gacy and Jeffrey Dahmer cases. Believe it or fucking not, guys,
Speaker 1: believe it or fucking not, there is a compelling case
Speaker 1: to be made that there were other killers involved. I know,
Speaker 1: fucking shock the hell out of me too, But then again, I,
Speaker 1: as many of you may be as well, have been
Speaker 1: brainwashed since I was a kid. Yes, my mom and
Speaker 1: I watched serial killer documentaries when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: but basically, they pushed the whole lone killer thing on
Speaker 1: people so hard. It's like, why wouldn't you believe them?
Speaker 1: We're conditioned since whenever the fuck you started becoming interested
Speaker 1: in true crime stories to believe that these were lone psychopaths.
Speaker 1: To lock your doors and stay inside because the fucking
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer might get you. John Wayne Gacy's on the loose.
Speaker 1: Ted Bundy's right around the corner. But is it all
Speaker 1: that it's cracked up to be, because then you find
Speaker 1: out you're not getting the full story and shit changes, right,
Speaker 1: and that evidence will be examined in later episodes. I know, exciting, right,
Speaker 1: We're really getting into it, and uh, just as a
Speaker 1: taste test for what we might be getting into in
Speaker 1: these upcoming episodes, we will look at the cases of
Speaker 1: two high profile alleged serial killers slash mass murderers who
Speaker 1: were said to have acted alone. Right. The first is
Speaker 1: that of Yosemite killer Carrie Stainer. The other dates all
Speaker 1: the way back to nineteen sixty six, the year Richard
Speaker 1: Speck allegedly went berserk in a home filled with young
Speaker 1: nursing students in Chicago, becoming the first mass murderer of
Speaker 1: the television age. I hope you're getting excited as I am,
Speaker 1: because we're going to be diving so far in the
Speaker 1: hole in the next episode. I'm talking whole lower body
Speaker 1: in that bitch. Okay, We're getting into the thick of things,
Speaker 1: and I got a lot of stuff going on in
Speaker 1: my personal life. I may be coming to you with
Speaker 1: a different background next time we'll see or I might
Speaker 1: still be fucking keeped up in my sister's extra bedroom.
Speaker 1: God only fucking knows what's going on. As long as
Speaker 1: my show remains my top priority, I think everything will
Speaker 1: be fine. If you actually saw what my room looked
Speaker 1: like right now, it'd be a real testament as to
Speaker 1: where my mental state is. It's a fucking wreck. And
Speaker 1: I'm usually the most tidy organized motherfucker ever. But I just,
Speaker 1: you know, I I don't know. I'm not depressed. Okay,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I'm not a depressed type of person.
Speaker 1: But it's just I got a lot of the rest
Speaker 1: in my life. But it's fall. You know, we got
Speaker 1: a lot of holidays coming up. I'm so excited. I
Speaker 1: love the holiday season. I'm actually planning. I want to
Speaker 1: do something fun for everyone for Christmas. I think you know.
Speaker 1: November is my birthday month, November thirtieth hola Sagittarius season,
Speaker 1: So fucking it's my time to shine, right. I'll be
Speaker 1: thirty on the thirtieth. It's my golden birthday. I have
Speaker 1: a lot to look forward to, including Program to Kill
Speaker 1: Part five. I hope I see you all next week
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