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<v Speaker 1>Jay Dire Jaysons, Jay Dires Day Smells, Jade Ires Days Analysis,

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Dier, Jason Alison, J Diers Day Smells, Jade Diers

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<v Speaker 1>Today's Analysis, Jay Dires Days Analysis, Jay Diers Days Analysis.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, welcome, welcome, welcome. You're listening to Jay Dyer.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's make sure we have good audio. Can everybody hear me?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you hear me? M hmm?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we having all right? Yep? Good, I can be her.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go. Yes, we're going to talk to true

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<v Speaker 2>dil Tom. For one hundred times, I've had endless requests,

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, we'll talk to him. And I messaged him

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<v Speaker 2>today and he said, yeah, we'll do it. We'll do

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<v Speaker 2>a talk.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, oh, philosophy. Oh these questions anyway, So I thought,

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<v Speaker 4>in the wake of.

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<v Speaker 2>The many recent discussions and debates, it would be pertinent

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<v Speaker 2>to have a stream that dealt with objections and questions

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<v Speaker 2>because naturally debates they just lead to a whole lot

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<v Speaker 2>of questioning, which is a good thing. That's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So the topics today we're going to specifically stick trying

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<v Speaker 2>to stick to you know, philosophy, metaphysics, the branches of

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<v Speaker 2>philosophy and defending them. But we're not just going to

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<v Speaker 2>stay I mean, if you want to ask theological questions,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine, because anytime I talk about philosophy, everybody comes

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<v Speaker 2>in they want to talk about theology. Anytime I talk

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<v Speaker 2>about theology, everybody comes in they want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracy and some other topics. So you know, I understand

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<v Speaker 2>they're not disconnected, but please let's stay on the topic roughly,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's talk first about this issue of cucks into

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<v Speaker 2>the shadows. What are you talking about, Matt, by the way, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if somebody wants to come on and debate, Matt, do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to come on in debate since you're calling

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<v Speaker 2>me a cuck, I tried to give the debate platform

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<v Speaker 2>openly today we had open debate day at Jays Analysis. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really care what ask Yourself did in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of his video Ask Yourself as a childish guy. He

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<v Speaker 2>needs to grow up a lot of bit a lot

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<v Speaker 2>before we have any more interactions. I'm not interested in

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<v Speaker 2>any more interactions with that guy. That's low IQ Spurg

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<v Speaker 2>level stuff. So I'm not gonna waste my time debating

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<v Speaker 2>twenty year olds. Although if this mac character wants to

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<v Speaker 2>come on, he's if he calls me a couck, he

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<v Speaker 2>can come on debate if he wants to. Nobody ever

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<v Speaker 2>wants to come on debate. Oh he said, I'm a cook,

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<v Speaker 2>cuts himself into the shadows. No, I just waited for

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<v Speaker 2>him to hang himself, and when he did, I left

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<v Speaker 2>the debate, and you can read everybody in the comments

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<v Speaker 2>at Primal Edge Health. They got the point. Everybody in

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<v Speaker 2>the comments center my copy of the debate at my

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<v Speaker 2>channel got the point, and everybody saw how silly what

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<v Speaker 2>he was saying was. So he and his cult can

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<v Speaker 2>do whatever they want, but I'm done with him. Stefan

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<v Speaker 2>MALINEU will never debate because, as we point that out

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<v Speaker 2>many times, a big name person has nothing to gain

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<v Speaker 2>from debating lesser known people. They have everything to lose.

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<v Speaker 2>Should they lose the debate, it would look really bad

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<v Speaker 2>for them. So why would they There's no incentive for

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<v Speaker 2>a Molineux or a Peterson or anybody of that stature,

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<v Speaker 2>of that caliber in terms of popularity to debate somebody

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<v Speaker 2>with you know, ten or one hundred times smaller audience.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, they're never going to debate. Now, maybe if

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<v Speaker 2>I got a million followers one day, which probably won't

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<v Speaker 2>ever happen, but if that ever did happen, maybe then

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<v Speaker 2>they might debate. But I doubt it because it's a

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<v Speaker 2>it's a much safer territory to stay in, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>acceptable modernist discourse. And you'll notice that none of the

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<v Speaker 2>people allowed into the big scale discussion ever step outside

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<v Speaker 2>of the classical liberal framework. Nobody outside of the classical

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<v Speaker 2>liberal dialectic is even allowed into the debate or the discussion.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean even the alt right, who many of

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<v Speaker 2>whom are basically still within the liberal framework, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>even allowed into the into the discussion. I mean JF

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<v Speaker 2>is still within the liberal framework in terms of his worldview,

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<v Speaker 2>aside from some sort of you know, race view in IQVUW.

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<v Speaker 2>Same with stuff on stuff on Molineu. They're still liberals, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're not really allowed into the mainstream discourse. Molineux

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<v Speaker 2>maybe to a degree because of the size of his audience,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's only he's only allowed to do that because

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<v Speaker 2>he's still champions the market god, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see that when you when you abandon philosophy with other

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<v Speaker 2>things step into to take the place of the god

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<v Speaker 2>of the system. We're also going to see that people

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<v Speaker 2>have a system, whether they want it or not, whether

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<v Speaker 2>they believe in systems or not. They have a system.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a worldview, they have a philosophy, they have

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<v Speaker 2>a paradigm. When I speak of the liberal paradigm, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't just mean empiricism. We decided a debate yesterday with

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<v Speaker 2>an atheistic materialist on this very question. When I speak

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<v Speaker 2>of liberalism, I'm talking about the classical liberal paradigm, and yes,

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<v Speaker 2>empiricism is part of that tradition. The Enlightenment gives birth

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<v Speaker 2>to the classical liberal paradigm. Renaissance humanism gives birth to it,

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<v Speaker 2>Nominalism gives birth to it, the Protestant Reformation gives birth

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<v Speaker 2>to it. Then comes right this Enlightenment so called, which

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<v Speaker 2>is not a turn towards science strictly speaking. People that

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<v Speaker 2>have actually delved deeply into the history of the Enlightenment

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<v Speaker 2>know that it comes out of hermeticism. They know that

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<v Speaker 2>it comes out of hermetic, neoplatonic, esoteric, Rosicrucian secret societies

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<v Speaker 2>and orders. You can read Dame Francis Yates book Rosicrucian Enlightenment,

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<v Speaker 2>which proves that beyond any shadow of a doubt. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I know that I've known that since undergrad because I

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<v Speaker 2>was studying all the secret societies at the same time

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<v Speaker 2>as I was taking on my Enlightenment classes. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>hard to figure that out. But who has read Dame

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<v Speaker 2>Francis Yates book Rosicrucian Enlightenment. Not many people, even though

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<v Speaker 2>it's a very famous book. Anyway, So when I talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the liberal tradition, I don't mean modern American liberalism.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't just mean empiricism. I mean the entire tradition

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<v Speaker 2>of the Enlightenment, because it is a move towards liberalism. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>some of those people would not necessarily be called quote liberal,

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<v Speaker 2>because maybe, like Hobbes, they believed in a giant Leviathan

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<v Speaker 2>monolithic state. Right, Hegel is a statist, so uh, you

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<v Speaker 2>know Hegel's philosophy of the right. That's not liberal. However,

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<v Speaker 2>all of these figures after the Enlightenment come out of

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<v Speaker 2>revolutionary traditions, except for you know, here and there, every

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<v Speaker 2>now and then, there's a there's a gem in the

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<v Speaker 2>midst of the the Maelstrom. Here the confusion that critiques it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you get you get writings about monarchy, you get writings

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<v Speaker 2>against liberalism, you know, in the West, even after the revolutions.

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<v Speaker 2>So again our stance here is not that science is bad,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. We believe that science has its place. And

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, you know, as Happa argues right and his

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<v Speaker 2>points about democracy, the God that failed, we're always told

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<v Speaker 2>this mantra of this, which is actually a revolutionary propaganda slogan,

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<v Speaker 2>that the Middle Ages was the Dark Ages, monarchy represents

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<v Speaker 2>dark Ages, and only because we have republican democracies do

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<v Speaker 2>we have advancement and progress. And in fact Hoppa makes

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<v Speaker 2>I think, very good consistent arguments that we could actually

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<v Speaker 2>probably have been far more advanced had we not adopted

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<v Speaker 2>the entire revolutionary ethos in the West. And of course,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, we've covered in countless articles, countless talks,

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<v Speaker 2>and even in my book, the fact that the entire

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<v Speaker 2>world has been infected with revolutionary thought. All of the

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<v Speaker 2>revolutions are the same, as Aldus Huxley says, they all

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<v Speaker 2>have the same point, they're all directed by the same people,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're all taking man towards technocracy. That's why the

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<v Speaker 2>entire world is under the spell of democracy. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>Hoppa is correct to call it a god that has failed.

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<v Speaker 2>But it actually didn't fail, because if you accept Huxley's thesis,

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<v Speaker 2>it actually achieved its very purpose. The revolutions were there

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<v Speaker 2>to bulldoze all of the previous paradigms and to set

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<v Speaker 2>up the moneyed oligarchy that we have now today that

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<v Speaker 2>runs the world. If you don't understand this, then you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what you're talking about, and don't try to

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<v Speaker 2>debate me. Go listen to my Tragy and Hope talks.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we know that the twentieth century represents the rise

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<v Speaker 2>of the Fiat banking power to rule the world. Now

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<v Speaker 2>we're living in the mopping up stages, and the goal

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<v Speaker 2>was always to bring into technocracy anyway, So when I

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<v Speaker 2>talk about liberalism, that's what I'm talking about. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about rejecting the ideology of the last several hundred years

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<v Speaker 2>of the West. I'm not talking about rejecting science, not

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<v Speaker 2>talking about rejecting scientific discoveries. Because as we've talked about

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<v Speaker 2>many times, paradigms can be wrong. People can have erroneous,

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<v Speaker 2>faulty paradigms or belief systems and make correct discoveries that

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<v Speaker 2>can make correct advancements. And even atheists who don't agree

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<v Speaker 2>with me have to admit this because they all know

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<v Speaker 2>that there are theists who make advances in science and technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course they do right, but they think those theists

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<v Speaker 2>are wrong and have the wrong paradigm. Yet they are

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<v Speaker 2>still able to make advances. Yeah, and that's because people

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<v Speaker 2>aren't always as consistent as they should be. Right, People

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<v Speaker 2>are better than their belief systems and paradigms most of

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<v Speaker 2>the time, Thank god, Right, because if everybody was completely consistent,

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<v Speaker 2>we would have chaos in terms of the atheistic materialistic

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<v Speaker 2>world views I'm saying. Anyway, so we want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the fact that, again, this is something that has

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<v Speaker 2>been missed. I've noticed some patterns in the last few

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<v Speaker 2>discussions and debates and talks that people are missing and

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<v Speaker 2>they're missing issues that relate to what they think are semantics,

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<v Speaker 2>what they think are are games, or like talking around

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<v Speaker 2>a problem or trying to like doe, what did he do?

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<v Speaker 2>What did that one guy say? The kids said, you're

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<v Speaker 2>being shady, right when you talk about the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>logic presupposes that you should follow through you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>to the conclusion through a syllogism, to the conclusion that

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<v Speaker 2>you should right, that there's some binding imperative force behind logic.

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<v Speaker 2>That's being shady. You're being shady. No, I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>is just retarded. Okay, so, oh god, here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Science in terms of the scientific principle is a new development.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a creature of the Enlightenment. Previously, there were

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<v Speaker 2>ways to seek truth, but they weren't science. This is

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<v Speaker 2>just retarded and in fact, the ancient Greeks practice science,

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<v Speaker 2>many of the Christian theologians of the Middle Aged practice science.

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<v Speaker 2>So you really have no idea what you're talking about, Vodka.

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<v Speaker 2>You are just repeating, essentially the propaganda of the Enlightenment, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look at how many inventions and discoveries come

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<v Speaker 2>out of the Middle Ages with something that you're not taught,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, in the modern university. So I actually think

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<v Speaker 2>I'm go'n just delete this guy, because we're not here

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<v Speaker 2>to have like basic bitch level debates here. The scientific

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<v Speaker 2>method is not new to the Enlightenment period. The scientific

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<v Speaker 2>method as a means by which this is the only

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<v Speaker 2>way to have reliable knowledge is new to the to

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<v Speaker 2>the period of the Enlightenment, that's true, but countless people

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<v Speaker 2>back to the ancient world utilized the principles of the

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<v Speaker 2>scientific method. Aristotle, you can go back to the ancient Greeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Aristotle was a scientist. Aristotle practiced the scientific method right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, my grad work in part was in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of science, a philosophy of science. So the questions that

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<v Speaker 2>philosophy of science asks are different than the questions that

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<v Speaker 2>normative science involves itself with. And the problem is that

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<v Speaker 2>most people who study science and hard sciences don't know philosophies,

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<v Speaker 2>that they don't know what's being said or what's being asked.

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<v Speaker 2>and about epistemology. Is just classic philosophy. And because scientism

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<v Speaker 2>philosophers when he made that statement. It's really just speaks

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<v Speaker 2>into all of reality is itself a fraudulent, stupid assumption. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 2>against superstition. However, when we begin to start asking questions

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<v Speaker 2>accusation that those are essentially stupid questions, the relics of

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<v Speaker 2>So again, so let's talk about Okay, so we got

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<v Speaker 2>read Aristotle vodka. If you've read Aristol, you know that

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<v Speaker 2>these branches of science that involve empirical investigation. So, in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>at a time when everyone disagreed with him. No, that's

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<v Speaker 2>simply not true. In fact, many of the Church fathers

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<v Speaker 2>were influenced by Aristotle, So you don't know what you're

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's about time to delete this dude. I've

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<v Speaker 2>we're not gonna deal with that. He thinks Aristol was

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<v Speaker 2>the one guy, And here's Aerostol has a tremendous influence

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<v Speaker 2>on the history of the Church. Again, how many times

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<v Speaker 2>have we recommended Saint John Damascus's Fount of Knowledge, which

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<v Speaker 2>has a lot of good things to say about Aristotle.

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<v Speaker 2>That does not mean they were Aristilians. Again, mistake. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>question that was asked earlier about Saint John christystem, which

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<v Speaker 2>Serophenician woman in Marks that it's not proper to give

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<v Speaker 2>there's two errors that people make that I've seen over

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<v Speaker 2>the years in my The Gentile Woman that Believes, and

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<v Speaker 2>two errors that people make on this is that, on

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<v Speaker 2>the one hand, there's the Christian so called Zionist heresy,

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<v Speaker 2>which usually is tied of course to dispensationalism. And they

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<v Speaker 2>think that there's like these plans that went into effect

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<v Speaker 2>a dispensation to Noah, and then when man failed, God

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<v Speaker 2>instituted a new plan. And what that does is essentially

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<v Speaker 2>divides up and destroys the continuity of the scriptures, destroys

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that there's one church from Able all the

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<v Speaker 2>way to the New Testament. We are all members of

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<v Speaker 2>the same at church. Right, Abraham is a saint in

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<v Speaker 2>our church. Moses is a saint in our church. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is crucial to understanding the continuity of the Old

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<v Speaker 2>and New Testament. They are members of the body of Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>They're pictured in the Apocalypse as worshiping alongside the saints

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<v Speaker 2>of the New Testament. So they were not saved in

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<v Speaker 2>a different way. They were not saved by keeping the

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<v Speaker 2>law or any of the nonsense that many of these

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<v Speaker 2>stupid evangelical secx believe. They were saved by their faith

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<v Speaker 2>in Christ. Paul reiterates this point many times in the

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<v Speaker 2>New Testament Romans Foor, Galatians three. So they didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>pathway to God. It's always through faith in either the

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<v Speaker 2>coming Messiah looking forward to him, or faith in the

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<v Speaker 2>Messiah who has come us. Now in the Church era,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not saved in a different way. There was no

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<v Speaker 2>way to keep the law. But even in the period

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<v Speaker 2>that we're talking about, when God established the nation of Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>there were still converts. We read about converts in the Exodus.

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<v Speaker 2>There were people who in Egypt who had converted to

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<v Speaker 2>and established the synagogue system, we read about the converts.

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<v Speaker 2>There were converts to the worship of the True God

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<v Speaker 2>of Israel, mentioned even in the Book of Acts. And

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<v Speaker 2>there was the dispersion, that is, the Jews that were

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<v Speaker 2>cities where they again they had synagogues, and there were

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<v Speaker 2>period accepted converts. In fact, Abraham was a convert, the

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<v Speaker 2>founder of so called Judaism, well in the sense of

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<v Speaker 2>the nation of Israel, right, Abraham was himself a convert

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<v Speaker 2>out of paganism. Now a lot of people get confused

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<v Speaker 2>with this, and then they think that so what happens

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<v Speaker 2>is that in the New Testament Jesus came, and because

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<v Speaker 2>these verses said that he came first to his own

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<v Speaker 2>to the Jews, then there must have been some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of new dispensation that was invented. This is what the

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<v Speaker 2>Christian Zionist heretics say. There was a new dispensation that

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<v Speaker 2>came about after the Jews rejected Christ, and then it

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<v Speaker 2>went to the Gentiles. This is so stupid that it's

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<v Speaker 2>almost unfathomable that anyone believes it. For one, how many

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<v Speaker 2>times the New Testament, the latter chapters of Romans right.

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<v Speaker 2>Many times in the Gospels there are quotations from the

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<v Speaker 2>Psalms and the major and minor prophets that I've covered

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<v Speaker 2>prophet's prophesied the Gentiles converting, that was always the plan.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't an accident, it wasn't planned. B according to

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<v Speaker 2>these idiot evangelicals. No, the Gentile Church was always the plan,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham that

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<v Speaker 2>in his seed all of the nations would be into

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus is the fulfillment of all of the covenants of

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<v Speaker 2>to Noah to Moses, or to Abraham to Moses to David,

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<v Speaker 2>they all are foreshadowing Jesus, the awaiting prophet, priest and

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<v Speaker 2>king to come, who fulfills all these predictions and in

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<v Speaker 2>his death ground resurrection, which is an amazing mystery that

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<v Speaker 2>God worked. In terms of his providence, God it foreknew

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<v Speaker 2>that the Jews would reject him. In fact, it was

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<v Speaker 2>predicted that the Jews would reject him all throughout their prophets.

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<v Speaker 2>They rejected him, and so the salvation that they thought

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<v Speaker 2>how the promises are fulfilled. It's a no brainer, really,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean this is again, nobody ever taught any of

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<v Speaker 2>this dispensational Judaized nonsense in the history of the Church.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why it's promoted by the royals, the Rothchilds and Oxford,

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<v Speaker 2>who printed the Schofield Study Bible that popularized it prior

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<v Speaker 2>to the established right, prior to the Balfour Declaration. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, no accident there now. So on the one hand,

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<v Speaker 2>and some guy was messaging me yesterday saying that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't accept Orthodoxy because you don't keep all the Jewish

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<v Speaker 2>feasts and fasts, and I was like, I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>have you read Galatians in Hebrews? And he's like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I have, But Paul's wrong, And so I go to

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<v Speaker 2>the guy's profile and his profile is all a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of Masonic stuff. So yeah, exactly, that's why we ended

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<v Speaker 2>up blocking that guy. But yeah, so on the one hand,

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<v Speaker 2>there is the error of trying to think that salvation

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<v Speaker 2>can be had through the keeping of the ceremonies of

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<v Speaker 2>the law. And again, this was the chief battle of

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<v Speaker 2>the first century Church. This is the chief battle of

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<v Speaker 2>the Book of Acts. Is this question. They have to

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<v Speaker 2>have a council in Acts fifteen to settle this question.

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<v Speaker 2>What does the council in Acts fifteen say. Well, basically,

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<v Speaker 2>laws of Noah. It says, essentially, in reaffirming the covenant

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<v Speaker 2>with Noah, that the Church, under the direction of the

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<v Speaker 2>Holy Spirit, the apostles, in the direction of Christ and

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<v Speaker 2>the Holy Spirit, make a decision, that make a determination

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<v Speaker 2>in a synod, in a snudal decree, that it is

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<v Speaker 2>Moses and to receive circumcision, because again, there are plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of righteous men prior to the giving of the ceremonial law,

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<v Speaker 2>and therefore ceremonial law cannot be necessary to be saved.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, This is Paul's argument. Paul says Abraham was

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<v Speaker 2>the establishment of national Israel prior to the giving of circumcision.

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<v Speaker 2>Circumcision it was a sign and seal for in it's

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<v Speaker 2>into the national Covenant of Israel of that time, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was proper and good at that time. But it

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<v Speaker 2>was a type that looked forward, looked forward to fulfillment

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<v Speaker 2>in baptism, which is something easily that can easily accessible,

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<v Speaker 2>water that can be given to everybody, not just young males. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>part of the reason that there was circumcision too was

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<v Speaker 2>because of the transmission of ancestral sin. Right, ancestral sin

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<v Speaker 2>comes from all the children of Adam, because of Adam's fall,

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<v Speaker 2>So there was also that aspect to it as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Circumcision was supposed to signify at tearing away of the

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<v Speaker 2>old Man, as Paul says, as Jeremiah says. Even in

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<v Speaker 2>the Old Testament, Jeremiah says that circumcisions signified repentance and

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<v Speaker 2>rending of the heart. Circumcise your hearts, Jeremiah says, that

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<v Speaker 2>was the whole point of it, looking forward to baptism.

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<v Speaker 2>So now that the Messiah has come, now that Christ's

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<v Speaker 2>instituted as Church, the New Testament essentially settles all of

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<v Speaker 2>these disputes. Again, you don't even have to go to

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<v Speaker 2>Testament to see all of these disputes settled. So let's

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<v Speaker 2>go to the let's look at the other opposite error,

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of being popularized by some blogs sort

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<v Speaker 2>of selectively takes certain church fathers out of context, and

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<v Speaker 2>point and there were no Jews. Jews do not exist

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<v Speaker 2>in the New Testament. This is an invention. This is

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<v Speaker 2>nonsense too, all right. And so this kind of a

413
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<v Speaker 2>perspective goes to the opposite extreme and doesn't understand and

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<v Speaker 2>it borders basically on a kind of Martianism. Doesn't understand

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<v Speaker 2>the importance of the place of the Old Testament, of

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<v Speaker 2>the conus to the Old Testament, of the law, and

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<v Speaker 2>even the ceremonies in preparation for the coming of Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>And so Jesus when he talks to the woman at

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<v Speaker 2>the well and John four is very clear, and what

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<v Speaker 2>he says to her is base. This is this is interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's a it's a great exemplary test case because

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<v Speaker 2>what happens is the woman at the well and she's

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<v Speaker 2>a Samaritan.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Samaritans were schismatics. That goes that go back to

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<v Speaker 2>the time of the split of the Northern and Southern

427
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Kingdom of Israel and Judah Rea Boem and Jereboam right,

428
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:24.119
<v Speaker 2>and we have basically Jeroboam's setting up his own state

429
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:29.000
<v Speaker 2>controlled pagan sex cult religion. This is the origin of Samaritanism.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Samaritans had this kind of schismatic idea that

431
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<v Speaker 2>they had come up with, that that the temple is

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<v Speaker 2>not where you worship God. You know what does she say?

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00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:40.960
<v Speaker 2>It says, oh, it's Jacob's well. You know, we worship

434
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:44.360
<v Speaker 2>at Jacob's well or something. Now, what does Jesus say?

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<v Speaker 2>Does Jesus say nothing in the Old Testament matters. I

436
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:49.760
<v Speaker 2>came to destroy all that. No, no, no, no, he

437
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:51.599
<v Speaker 2>doesn't say that. Does he say there were no Jews,

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<v Speaker 2>Jews didn't exist. That is an invention of Talmwood Epharises. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't say that. He says woman, He says, you

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<v Speaker 2>know not what you worship. He says you are a Samaritan.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jesus doesn't wipe away all the religious distinctions. He

442
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<v Speaker 2>essentially affirms you are a heretic. All right, you are

443
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<v Speaker 2>a schismatic. You do think that you're worshiping the true God,

444
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<v Speaker 2>but you do only you do not know what you worship. Okay,

445
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:21.800
<v Speaker 2>so she was in error, she was in schism. Jesus then,

446
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:25.199
<v Speaker 2>of course, demonstrates that he has omniscience by talking about

447
00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:31.719
<v Speaker 2>her many husbands or lovers because she's not married. And

448
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:34.320
<v Speaker 2>the woman is then of course convicted. She says, oh,

449
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I perceive that you're a prophet, and she right. She

450
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<v Speaker 2>had tried to steer the conversation into religious controversy, and

451
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Jesus brings it back to the question of moral problem.

452
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:47.199
<v Speaker 2>He's like, no, your issue is moral. It's not an

453
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:50.679
<v Speaker 2>issue of abstract theological questions. You have a moral issue.

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<v Speaker 2>So then Jesus goes on to say that truly, I

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<v Speaker 2>say to you that the time is coming, and now

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<v Speaker 2>is when the worshipers of God will worship God in

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<v Speaker 2>spirit and in truth, not just on not just in

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00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:09.840
<v Speaker 2>the temple, but in all places. So, in other words,

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<v Speaker 2>the worship of God is not going to be restricted

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<v Speaker 2>to the Temple, which it previously had been, which was

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00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:18.199
<v Speaker 2>by God's design on purpose. It is then to extend

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<v Speaker 2>into all of the nations in the Church. But the

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<v Speaker 2>key point to remember here is that Jesus is stressing

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<v Speaker 2>that salvation is of the Jews. There was no salvation

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<v Speaker 2>in any other place. You could not find the true

466
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:40.079
<v Speaker 2>worship of God in some other nation. Now, before the

467
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<v Speaker 2>establishment of the Nation of Israel, it's possible plausible that

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<v Speaker 2>there were in some way priests like Melchizedic or people

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<v Speaker 2>like Job right who were righteous men outside of the

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<v Speaker 2>Nation of Israel, who had in some way maintained the

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<v Speaker 2>true tradition from able right. So this is mo most

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<v Speaker 2>likely how and why Job or jeth Row or Melchizedek,

473
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<v Speaker 2>who are not levitical priests, still had knowledge of and

474
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<v Speaker 2>understanding of Him, belief of in the One True God right,

475
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<v Speaker 2>and presumably also belief in a coming Messiah. In fact,

476
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<v Speaker 2>Job predicts Christ. There are multiple Messianic prophecies in the

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<v Speaker 2>Book of Job, and Job was not written by Jew.

478
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<v Speaker 2>It's written by gentile. So Job himself, by the way,

479
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<v Speaker 2>that shows us that there were true gentile believers even

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<v Speaker 2>in the Old Testament. So now let's look at this

481
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<v Speaker 2>passage then, when Jesus says to the Seraphenician woman that

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<v Speaker 2>gentiles are dogs, He is not making this up out

483
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<v Speaker 2>of nowhere. He is reaffirming what is in the Old Testament.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, a lot of people who take this opposite view,

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<v Speaker 2>they think that it's somehow wrong to talk about the

486
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<v Speaker 2>fact that the Old Testament, particularly the Psalms, right in

487
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<v Speaker 2>many places. It's not just a Talmudic invention that the

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<v Speaker 2>Law and the prophets and the Psalms speak of the

489
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:24.000
<v Speaker 2>nations in this way. They do because they were that way,

490
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:28.480
<v Speaker 2>they were dogs, because they acted that way. Right, they

491
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:32.679
<v Speaker 2>were into some seriously degenerate stuff. And yes, it eventually

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00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:35.719
<v Speaker 2>infected Israel too, and it Israel fell into the worship

493
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:39.440
<v Speaker 2>of serious degenerate stuff. So it's not like I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the point is that both of these things

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00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:45.079
<v Speaker 2>are true. It's not either or right. There were periods

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<v Speaker 2>when Israel was faithful to God in some instances, and

497
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:52.840
<v Speaker 2>when that was the case, God would subdue their enemies.

498
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:55.920
<v Speaker 2>And David can write Psalms talking about in the nations

499
00:41:56.000 --> 00:42:02.480
<v Speaker 2>being heathens, being degenerate and deserving of divine justice. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>how many times does David say this in the Psalm?

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<v Speaker 2>How many times the prophets say that multiple times? Yet

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time It's also true that the same

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<v Speaker 2>accusations are turned back on Israel itself. When Israel starts

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<v Speaker 2>to act like the nations, the prophets say, you are

505
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:23.000
<v Speaker 2>a whore. Israel is Sodom, Israel is Gomorrah. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>these things can all be true at the same time.

507
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jesus is being consistent when he affirms the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that it was true that the nations were doglike and heathen.

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<v Speaker 2>The gift of the covenant was not given to all nations.

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<v Speaker 2>It was given only to the nation of Israel. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>speaking after Abraham, of course, right. So that is the norm,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is true, and that is correct. Paul does

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<v Speaker 2>not say that Moses was not a legitimate covenant from God.

515
00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Is Jesus who made the covenant with Moses. This is crucial,

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<v Speaker 2>and every Orthodox person makes this very apologetic argument. So

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<v Speaker 2>they even the people who don't understand this already agree

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<v Speaker 2>with me. When they look at the burning bush and

519
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:13.639
<v Speaker 2>they say, that's Jesus speaking in the burning bush. Jesus says,

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00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:16.239
<v Speaker 2>I am that I am multiple signs in John seven,

521
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Jesus says, I am that I am. I am right.

522
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<v Speaker 2>So it's Jesus in the Burning Bush, and it's Jesus

523
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:26.079
<v Speaker 2>making the covenant with Moses. Again, it's not that difficult

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00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:30.199
<v Speaker 2>when you understand basic continuity between the Old and New Testament. Now,

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00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:34.119
<v Speaker 2>when we understand that, we see then that it is

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<v Speaker 2>in fact true. Just think of Israel as the Church

527
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:41.960
<v Speaker 2>of the Old Covenant, and so just as in the

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<v Speaker 2>New Covenant, the Church can pray and precatory prayers and

529
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:48.239
<v Speaker 2>pray against her enemies, which she does and has for

530
00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:51.400
<v Speaker 2>two thousand years. So likewise, did they do the same

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<v Speaker 2>thing in the Church of Israel in the Old Testament?

532
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:58.920
<v Speaker 2>It was no different. Now there are differences in the

533
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:02.079
<v Speaker 2>sense of uh modus operandi, Like you know, we don't

534
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:06.559
<v Speaker 2>principally try to go to war against Canaanites, although at

535
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:10.840
<v Speaker 2>times the Church, well I should say Orthodox nations and

536
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:16.559
<v Speaker 2>kings have gone to war. Everybody knows this basic church history, right. So,

537
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:19.840
<v Speaker 2>even though there's there's a shift in emphasis between the

538
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:27.039
<v Speaker 2>Old Testament period focusing on a more external battle related

539
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.079
<v Speaker 2>scenario of the conquest of Cana et cetera, that was

540
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:33.280
<v Speaker 2>a type, Paul says. The conquest of cana was a

541
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:38.239
<v Speaker 2>type of the Church conquering the world. Paul makes this

542
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:42.320
<v Speaker 2>this analogy very clear in the New Testament. So the

543
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:45.440
<v Speaker 2>typology of Cana's land is a is the is the

544
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:50.159
<v Speaker 2>spiritual is fulfilled in the spiritual approach of the Church

545
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:53.320
<v Speaker 2>going out and conquering the nations to the preaching of

546
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:57.199
<v Speaker 2>the Gospel, essentially pulling down the demons that the nations worship.

547
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:01.559
<v Speaker 2>That's the true battle, the true conquest of Canaan, that

548
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:04.320
<v Speaker 2>is happening now in our very day, in the last

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand years. Does that mean that in the Old

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<v Speaker 2>Testament there were no demons? No, of course not. Demons

551
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:12.239
<v Speaker 2>are mentioned multiple times in the Old Testament. Does that

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<v Speaker 2>mean the Old Testament wasn't spiritual?

553
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<v Speaker 1>No?

554
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<v Speaker 2>Right, Think about how many times prophets see into the

555
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<v Speaker 2>spiritual realm and they see chariots fighting with the armies

556
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<v Speaker 2>of Israel. They see into Isaiah sees into heaven and

557
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:31.880
<v Speaker 2>he sees, you know, in Isaiah six he sees he

558
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<v Speaker 2>sees God. In fact, and by the way, John says

559
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<v Speaker 2>in his Gospel that when Isaiah looked into heaven, he

560
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:48.079
<v Speaker 2>saw Christ by the way. So anyway, when we understand that,

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00:45:48.239 --> 00:45:55.599
<v Speaker 2>we understand that Jesus's mission it was appropriate. Paula firms

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<v Speaker 2>us too, by the way that in Realm, as he

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<v Speaker 2>says that to the Jews were given the Covenant, they

564
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<v Speaker 2>were given the Law, they were given the promises fought,

565
00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:05.800
<v Speaker 2>they were given the fathers, et cetera, et cetera. So

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00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:09.480
<v Speaker 2>naturally Jesus had to come to the Jews first, who

567
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:13.079
<v Speaker 2>were his people, and salvation was offered first to the

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<v Speaker 2>jew Right. This is why pulse is to the jew

569
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:18.400
<v Speaker 2>first and then to the gentile. This is why in

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<v Speaker 2>the Book of Acts the apostles go and preach the

571
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:26.119
<v Speaker 2>Gospel first to the Jews. Salvation is offered first to

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<v Speaker 2>the Jews. And what happens, well, many many accept it,

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00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:33.199
<v Speaker 2>many also reject it. Right, and so we think of

574
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<v Speaker 2>the section and Acts where Paul says, since you reject it,

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00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:39.519
<v Speaker 2>we now go to the Gentiles. And if you read

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<v Speaker 2>through the Book of Actual see that you know it's

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00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:45.239
<v Speaker 2>the Holy Spirit essentially directing this process. Okay, So, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>at one point, the Spirit forbids the church to spread

579
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:53.559
<v Speaker 2>the Gospel into an area of Asia. We don't know why,

580
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:57.679
<v Speaker 2>we're not told why the Spirit forbade the Gospel going

581
00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:01.360
<v Speaker 2>into that region, We don't know. Apparently it would be

582
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:05.800
<v Speaker 2>some other time right, that's the counsels of God. We

583
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:07.800
<v Speaker 2>don't fully understand all the counsels of God, but what

584
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:12.119
<v Speaker 2>we do have in Revelation is a lot of information about,

585
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:14.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, the kinds of things that I'm saying. We

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00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:17.239
<v Speaker 2>do have information about how to make sense of these texts.

587
00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:21.039
<v Speaker 2>Jesus not being inconsistent when he says that this woman

588
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<v Speaker 2>is a gentile, and she is, and that was important

589
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:28.519
<v Speaker 2>for in the history of redemption. That was important for

590
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:34.360
<v Speaker 2>that phase in history. Now that the Church has been established, right,

591
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:36.639
<v Speaker 2>and by the way, Jesus grants the woman's wish, So

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<v Speaker 2>even though she was a gentile, even though she did

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<v Speaker 2>have this affiliation with pagan culture, Jesus still grants her

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00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:50.400
<v Speaker 2>her supplication. And in fact, multiple times in the Gospels

595
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Jesus preaches to gentiles, he preaches to schismatics, right, And

596
00:47:56.079 --> 00:48:00.360
<v Speaker 2>this is the story of the Good Samaritan, right. And

597
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.719
<v Speaker 2>that's because, as many of the church fathers point out,

598
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<v Speaker 2>the Gospel examples of like the Roman Centurion and so

599
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:10.400
<v Speaker 2>forth believing in Christ. These are prefigurations of the fact

600
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:14.760
<v Speaker 2>that the gentiles will enlarge accept the message of the Gospel,

601
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:19.960
<v Speaker 2>and many, many of the Jews will not and as

602
00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:23.960
<v Speaker 2>a nation, the Jewish nation falls under God's judgment precisely

603
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:29.840
<v Speaker 2>because they reject their Messiah. So, long story short, both

604
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:33.800
<v Speaker 2>of those positions are incorrect. There's the extreme of thinking

605
00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:37.199
<v Speaker 2>that I don't know where they get this, this idea

606
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:40.440
<v Speaker 2>that the word jew was not in the Bible. It

607
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:44.760
<v Speaker 2>was invented by Talmudic persons, like hundreds of years after

608
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:49.760
<v Speaker 2>the coming of Christ. It's very retarded. If you read

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00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:56.199
<v Speaker 2>Zechariah eight, there's a prediction that thus says the Lord Almighty,

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<v Speaker 2>in those days, ten men from all the nations around

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, ten men from all the tongues of the

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00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:07.280
<v Speaker 2>nations will stop you and ask you, and grab a

613
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<v Speaker 2>hold of you, and they will say to a Jewish man,

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<v Speaker 2>we will go with you, for we have heard God

615
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:17.800
<v Speaker 2>is with you. Well, this is Pentecost. This is what

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<v Speaker 2>happens on Pentegost. This is what happens when Jesus sends

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<v Speaker 2>the Jewish apostles out into the world. Right many, many,

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<v Speaker 2>many nations cling on to these apostles and they say,

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<v Speaker 2>we have heard God is with you. Tell us about

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<v Speaker 2>your God. This is a prediction of Pentecost and the

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<v Speaker 2>apostles and the New Testament, and they were all Jews. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, Zachariah Ate is using the word Jew.

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<v Speaker 2>So jew is not a post New Testament Talmudic invention.

624
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<v Speaker 2>It's completely retarded. All Right, we went, I've already gone

625
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<v Speaker 2>fifty minutes on just that one question. So hopefully that

626
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<v Speaker 2>is illustrative people can benefit from that. But beyond that,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really seeing what action Jackson or whatever that

628
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<v Speaker 2>dude's name was, I don't really see the problem and

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<v Speaker 2>what he asked. I think he was tripped up by

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that Jesus affirmed that gentiles were dogs. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is in the Psalms, right, this is in the prophets,

632
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<v Speaker 2>and it's not because they weren't humans, because they acted

633
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<v Speaker 2>like dogs. And so, by the way, this is important.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, this is something a lot of people misunderstand.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a debate one time on the street with

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<v Speaker 2>a Hasidic Jew who started a conversation with me. Interestingly,

637
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<v Speaker 2>he started talking about the Old Testament. I think he

638
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<v Speaker 2>thought I was Jewish. I don't know, but he was like,

639
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<v Speaker 2>are you a Jew? And I was like, well in

640
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<v Speaker 2>the true sense, yeah, He's like what. So we got

641
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<v Speaker 2>in this debate and he said, he said, his view

642
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<v Speaker 2>was that the law didn't apply to Tiles, it was

643
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<v Speaker 2>only for Israel. And I was like, well, okay, the

644
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<v Speaker 2>law giving him Mount Sinai was for Israel. But God

645
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<v Speaker 2>still held nations accountable for their sins. In other words,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, if you read Joshua, the reason that God

647
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<v Speaker 2>sends Joshua into Canaan's land for the conquest is because

648
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<v Speaker 2>of the wickedness of those nations. That means they're held

649
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<v Speaker 2>accountable for their wickedness. How many times in the prophets

650
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<v Speaker 2>do the prophets talk about the nations being wicked violating

651
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<v Speaker 2>God's law? Well, what law were they violating? If they

652
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<v Speaker 2>weren't under God's law, they were under the law moral law,

653
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:38.920
<v Speaker 2>what laws were they violating? When Nebec Andeser, you know,

654
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<v Speaker 2>was arrogant and prideful and blasphemed the God of the Jews,

655
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<v Speaker 2>the true God, Well he gets struck with madness and

656
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<v Speaker 2>acts like a damn fool out in the wood for

657
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<v Speaker 2>seven years like an animal. So he offended some kind

658
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<v Speaker 2>of moral law. Right, So, and it wasn't by the way,

659
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:05.079
<v Speaker 2>it's not just no hide laws. Okay. So the noea

660
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:09.119
<v Speaker 2>covenant was a covenant and it wasn't an effect. And again,

661
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<v Speaker 2>if you understand Acts fifteen, they are referring back to

662
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<v Speaker 2>the Noa Noah Hyde laws in Acts fifteen. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>the first Council of the Church in Acts fifteen in

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<v Speaker 2>Jerusalem looked back to to determine the normative statues for

665
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<v Speaker 2>receiving gentiles into the predominantly Jewish Church of that time. Right,

666
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<v Speaker 2>Jewish converts to Christianity, the entire early Church is Jewish. Okay,

667
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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing. It's founded by Jews, predominantly Jews. Right,

668
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<v Speaker 2>the first ten chapters of Acts and this if you

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<v Speaker 2>read Acts ten, right when we get to the story

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<v Speaker 2>of Cornelius, this is why Peter is so confused. Peter

671
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<v Speaker 2>has such a hard time with this question because of

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<v Speaker 2>his grounding in, you know, the Jewish law and prophets.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's very confused. And in fact, Peter's so confused

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<v Speaker 2>that it actually requires visions directly from God. Right, he

675
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<v Speaker 2>sees the vision of the sheet with the unclean animals.

676
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<v Speaker 2>And again in the Old Testament, unclean animals represented the

677
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<v Speaker 2>unclean nations, the gentiles and demons. If you doubt the

678
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<v Speaker 2>favorites that represent demons read at Isaiah thirty four, where

679
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<v Speaker 2>Lilith is mentioned and other demons are pictured in Isaiah

680
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<v Speaker 2>thirty four under the imagery of unclean birds, storks, owls,

681
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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. It even mentions satyrs there by the way,

682
00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:39.199
<v Speaker 2>goat demons. So that was even present in the Old Testament. Anyway,

683
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<v Speaker 2>where were we we were talking about Cornelius. So the

684
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<v Speaker 2>sheet comes down right in Peter's vision and it's got

685
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<v Speaker 2>unclean animals in it, and God says eat. Peter says, no,

686
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<v Speaker 2>By the way, that's not a vegan command, is it.

687
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<v Speaker 2>The biblical God is not vegan. By the way, Peter says, no,

688
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<v Speaker 2>I can't eat those, those are unclean. So this vision

689
00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:06.000
<v Speaker 2>happens three times, and God says, what I've called clean,

690
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:11.280
<v Speaker 2>don't call unclean. So that's what it took for Peter

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<v Speaker 2>to finally be convinced. And even after that, Peter was

692
00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:17.360
<v Speaker 2>still had doubts because Paul had to get in Peter's

693
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<v Speaker 2>face over it. Remember this is mentioned in the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of Galatians. Paul and Peter have a big falling out

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<v Speaker 2>over it because Peter still keeps falling back into the

696
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<v Speaker 2>temptations of thinking that Gentiles are not fully inheritors of

697
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<v Speaker 2>the promises with Jews, but they are. However, for the

698
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<v Speaker 2>period of the Old Covenant, it was true that there

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to be a separation. For example, the Temple

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00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:49.480
<v Speaker 2>itself worship itself during the Old Covenant period did not

701
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<v Speaker 2>allow gentiles into the Temple. You could come to as

702
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<v Speaker 2>a worshiper of the true out of Israel to the

703
00:54:55.400 --> 00:55:00.960
<v Speaker 2>outer portico that was allowed for converts. All right, this

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<v Speaker 2>is gentiles who had converted to the God of Israel.

705
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<v Speaker 2>But you couldn't go into the temple. Now who set

706
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:12.599
<v Speaker 2>that up? God did? Okay, So this wasn't something that

707
00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Moses made up. It wasn't something that the evil God

708
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:18.239
<v Speaker 2>of the Old Testament made up. It was put into

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<v Speaker 2>place for a time period until, as Hebrews said, the

710
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<v Speaker 2>time of Reformation came. What's the time of Reformation? The

711
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<v Speaker 2>New Covenant, the New Covenant is not something that just

712
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<v Speaker 2>happens when Jesus dies. The New Covenant is established from

713
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<v Speaker 2>the entire period of the first century, from the incarnation

714
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:36.599
<v Speaker 2>birth of Christ all the way up to the destruction

715
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<v Speaker 2>of the Temple in seventy eighty. That is the establishment

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<v Speaker 2>of the New Covenant. That whole period and all of

717
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<v Speaker 2>the events of that period are crucial to fulfilling all

718
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<v Speaker 2>of these Old Testament prophecies and ushering in the last days.

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<v Speaker 2>This is also important because consistently in the Old Testament,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, the prophecy of Joel says that the last

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<v Speaker 2>days are instituted when Pentecost happens. Right, Joel's not talking

722
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<v Speaker 2>about the end of the world. It might have a

723
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<v Speaker 2>reference to the end of the world, but Joel says

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<v Speaker 2>that the last days begin when the spirit is poured

725
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<v Speaker 2>out on all flesh. Peter says, Joel was talking about Pentecost.

726
00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:21.519
<v Speaker 2>Pentecost happened in Acts two. Okay, can you read? Can

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<v Speaker 2>you make the connection between the fact that Peter in

728
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<v Speaker 2>Acts two is quoting Joel. Joel is not talking about

729
00:56:27.599 --> 00:56:30.920
<v Speaker 2>some garbage on TBN what John Hagy says. Joel's talking

730
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<v Speaker 2>about Pentecost, which happens in Acts two. By the way,

731
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<v Speaker 2>that refutes basically the entirety of dispensationalism. So the spirit

732
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<v Speaker 2>being poured out on all flesh equally also shows that

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<v Speaker 2>there's no longer the distinction in the ritual ceremonial sense

734
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<v Speaker 2>that was necessarily important for the Old Testament period. Now, okay,

735
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<v Speaker 2>it's no longer important. Now there's no longer June or

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<v Speaker 2>Greek slave, nor free male nor female. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>Paul's not a transgender advocate. Paul's not saying that that

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<v Speaker 2>means there's no such thing as Jews and Greeks anymore. No,

739
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:11.159
<v Speaker 2>of course, they still exist, and it's only the idiot

740
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<v Speaker 2>retards that quote that verse to try to prove stupid

741
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<v Speaker 2>egalitarian presuppositions. That verse has nothing to do with that.

742
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<v Speaker 2>Paul elsewhere says slaves submit to your masters, women submit

743
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<v Speaker 2>to your husbands. Right, Jews and Greeks are still Jews

744
00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:29.599
<v Speaker 2>and Greeks. They don't erase all their heritage. This is

745
00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:33.639
<v Speaker 2>all the liberal presupposition, the modernist presupposition that tries to

746
00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:38.760
<v Speaker 2>wrest Christianity from its historical contexts and lie and take

747
00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:49.280
<v Speaker 2>verses out of context. Paul is saying that salvation comes

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<v Speaker 2>to all people of any status in life. Paul is

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<v Speaker 2>not saying that Christianity is a revolutionary force to overthrow

750
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<v Speaker 2>structures and governments and to set up some trainy egalitarian

751
00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:06.519
<v Speaker 2>global homo world system as these idiots try to make it.

752
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:09.639
<v Speaker 2>Nobody could honestly read the rest of the New Testament

753
00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:12.519
<v Speaker 2>and actually think that. So it's only lying, deceiving people

754
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:16.039
<v Speaker 2>who take those verses out to try to prove that

755
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:25.719
<v Speaker 2>they don't know what they're talking about. So anyway, Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>even in Romans ninth or eleven, seems to also uphold

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that Jews will continue to even be Jews

758
00:58:33.599 --> 00:58:36.719
<v Speaker 2>until the time of their conversion, right. And I do

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<v Speaker 2>think many of the fathers, by the way, I just

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00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:42.360
<v Speaker 2>found a whole bunch more verses where the Fathers actually

761
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<v Speaker 2>back this up. Cereal of Alexandria, by the way, it

762
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:47.719
<v Speaker 2>appears to have been very convinced that many of these

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<v Speaker 2>texts predict a future conversion of the Jews. The Orthodox

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<v Speaker 2>Study Bible in fact mentions this in many places. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that that's true. I think Romans eleven just very

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<v Speaker 2>clearly is making again, as I pointed out many times,

767
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<v Speaker 2>the claim that eventually Jews will convert. I don't know

768
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<v Speaker 2>when that is. We don't know when that is, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that's the obvious meaning of what Paul's saying. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>do I think that necessarily has anything to do with

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<v Speaker 2>the founding of the state of Israel. No, I do not.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see where that necessarily fits into any of this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going by what's in revelation. I'm not interested in reading,

774
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<v Speaker 2>you know, headlines into scripture. That's what how lindsay and John, Hey,

775
00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:28.280
<v Speaker 2>you know all those retards do. We don't do that.

776
00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:32.239
<v Speaker 2>We don't read news headlines into the Bible. We don't

777
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<v Speaker 2>look at the fact that, you know, the anti Christ is,

778
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:39.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, mentioned in a bunch of movies and then

779
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<v Speaker 2>try to read that into the Bible and say we're

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00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:45.400
<v Speaker 2>in the last days the I mean people, somebody with

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<v Speaker 2>somebody was making that comment on one of my videos.

782
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<v Speaker 2>They were like, you have a mental illness because you

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<v Speaker 2>think that these Hollywood movies are saying that the Antichrist

784
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<v Speaker 2>is coming. No, if you've listened to what I said,

785
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<v Speaker 2>you know that I actually make fun of that. I

786
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<v Speaker 2>make fun of the the argument like the Croleians had,

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<v Speaker 2>that that you could invoke the Antichrist by doing a

788
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:08.599
<v Speaker 2>bunch of rituals, and that John's Book of Revelation is

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01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:11.159
<v Speaker 2>a gnostic ritual text. I talk about how stupid that is.

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<v Speaker 2>And the only reason Crowley thought that was because he was,

791
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:17.559
<v Speaker 2>guess what, raised in a retarded dispensationalist sect. The Plymouth

792
01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:22.199
<v Speaker 2>Brethren is where dispensationalism comes from. Did you know that? Yep,

793
01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:27.320
<v Speaker 2>John Nelson Darby all right, Plymouth Brethren. Oh, they also

794
01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:30.440
<v Speaker 2>happened to produce Aleister Crowley. So the only only reason

795
01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Crowley and his stupidity and ignorance, thought that he could

796
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<v Speaker 2>turn the Book of Revelation into a magical text for

797
01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:40.440
<v Speaker 2>invoking the Antichrist and bringing it into fruition and having

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<v Speaker 2>sex with the horror Babylon and all this nonsense. John's

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<v Speaker 2>not talking about Crowley, dude. So I constantly talk about

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01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:51.480
<v Speaker 2>how stupid this is. Uh So the guy who assumed

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01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:53.719
<v Speaker 2>that I was like reading movies and headlines into the

802
01:00:53.760 --> 01:00:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Bible had no idea what I was talking about. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>let's keep in mind too that in Mark seven, before

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<v Speaker 2>I end on this topic, Jesus says that Jesus rebukes

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<v Speaker 2>the scribes and the Pharisees. So it's in the context

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<v Speaker 2>of this. The story of calling the woman a dog

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<v Speaker 2>is in the context of of rebuking the scribes and

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<v Speaker 2>the Pharisees. Now that's important because it shows us that

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus there's not a there's not like a catchphrase by

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01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:41.920
<v Speaker 2>which we can, you know, lift these verses out of context. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like a lot of times, like a Baptist will try

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<v Speaker 2>to say something like, you will leave the traditions of

813
01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:49.079
<v Speaker 2>men in your Orthodox church. You follow the traditions of men.

814
01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Jesus said to the Pharisees, don't follow the traditions of men. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he also in other places does say follow the traditions.

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<v Speaker 2>So right, this is a different question. Right, The question

817
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<v Speaker 2>of whether there's an oral tradition is a different question

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01:02:04.920 --> 01:02:08.239
<v Speaker 2>from whether or not there's the traditions of men. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the scribes and the Pharisees had invented and put into

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<v Speaker 2>place a bunch of traditions of men, which, if you

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<v Speaker 2>listen to the Jeremiah lectures, Jeremiah talked about. Jeremiah said

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<v Speaker 2>in his day that the scribes and Pharisees had done

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<v Speaker 2>this and it was a problem, and that they were

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<v Speaker 2>circumventing the law itself. Jesus reaffirms Jeremiah, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>there are whole chapters in Jeremiah that mirror the ministry

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<v Speaker 2>of Jesus. We've pointed that out in the Jeremiah talk,

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<v Speaker 2>which shows continuity, by the way, but The reason I

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<v Speaker 2>bring that up is because Jesus can, at the on

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<v Speaker 2>the one hand, talk about the hypocrisy of the scribes

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<v Speaker 2>and Pharisees and the fact that they had invented traditions

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<v Speaker 2>of men, and at the same time in Matthew twenty

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<v Speaker 2>three he says, the scribes and the Pharisees sit in

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<v Speaker 2>the seat of Moses. Therefore do as they say, but

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<v Speaker 2>not as they do because they're hypocrites. But they were

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<v Speaker 2>the established religious authority. Notice he does not mention the

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<v Speaker 2>Sadducees why, because they were the liberals. They were not

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<v Speaker 2>the established authority. There was a hierarchical established authority and

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01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:19.239
<v Speaker 2>it was the scribal Pharisaic system that Ezra set up.

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<v Speaker 2>Ezra set up the synagogue system. Moses talked about the

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<v Speaker 2>need for a synagogue system. Ezra then set it up

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<v Speaker 2>later on. There's no such thing in the Old Testament

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<v Speaker 2>as a seat of Moses, right, There's no moses dolic

843
01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:40.760
<v Speaker 2>succession mentioned. However, Jesus says that this is true. They

844
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<v Speaker 2>do sit in the seat of Moses. They are the

845
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:49.079
<v Speaker 2>legitimate authoritative expounders, expositors and judges of the law. Yes,

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01:03:49.159 --> 01:03:53.199
<v Speaker 2>they're hypocrites. However, they still retain a position of authority.

847
01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Jesus says that they are much more liable to condemnation

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<v Speaker 2>than the rest of the people that role of authority,

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<v Speaker 2>and we see this in the Old Testament as well. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>God judges David or the rulers, or the kings or

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01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:11.039
<v Speaker 2>the heads of things far more severely than he judges

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01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:19.639
<v Speaker 2>the normal the normies. I mean, he judged at him

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<v Speaker 2>pretty severely, because Adam was the head of the human race.

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01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:27.119
<v Speaker 2>How severely does God judge David pretty severely?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

856
01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:32.559
<v Speaker 2>When David? What happens to the offspring that David has

857
01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:38.519
<v Speaker 2>with Bathsheba? Yeah, exactly. So, in the same way, we

858
01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:44.440
<v Speaker 2>have to understand that there is at the same time

859
01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:48.800
<v Speaker 2>traditions of men as there is legitimate oral tradition. Right,

860
01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:52.440
<v Speaker 2>both of those things are true. Jesus can rebuke the

861
01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:55.159
<v Speaker 2>Pharisees and call them hypocrites while at the same time

862
01:04:55.239 --> 01:05:02.960
<v Speaker 2>recognizing that they have a legitimate authority. So it's that simple. Really,

863
01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I'll read a couple of super chaps before we move

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01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:12.000
<v Speaker 2>back to philosophy, because I kind of went for an

865
01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:14.880
<v Speaker 2>hour on that one theology question, and really, really what

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01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:22.599
<v Speaker 2>we were coming to talk about was the philosophy. That's okay,

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01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:25.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, we want to go with whatever anybody's interested in.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we'll talk about. I did say we could

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<v Speaker 2>talk theology today. So we're taking challenges and questions today.

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<v Speaker 2>The first question Evan Schultz, thank you for that. You've

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01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:35.199
<v Speaker 2>been killing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay.

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<v Speaker 2>I found a challenging discussion. I found it challenge discussing

874
01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Orthodoxy with women as they find it sexist. Any tips, well,

875
01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:48.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, modern women are of course bathed in the

876
01:05:48.199 --> 01:05:53.519
<v Speaker 2>idea that patriarchy or religions that have only male authorities

877
01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:55.559
<v Speaker 2>and priests are sexist. There's not much you can do

878
01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:58.719
<v Speaker 2>about it, because you know, Jesus set it up. So

879
01:05:58.920 --> 01:06:04.719
<v Speaker 2>their problem ultimately is with Jesus. Too bad. I mean,

880
01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:09.199
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't worry if people I mean, in other words,

881
01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:11.800
<v Speaker 2>you can't water down these facts to like, you know,

882
01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:17.679
<v Speaker 2>appease some some feminists. I wouldn't worry about it, just

883
01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:20.519
<v Speaker 2>move on. My tip would be to move on to

884
01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:24.599
<v Speaker 2>somebody else. By the way, this is why you have

885
01:06:24.679 --> 01:06:27.800
<v Speaker 2>to watch out for feminists, is because people like Angela

886
01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Dahl Carlson, who hopes and praise for women's ordination to

887
01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:36.880
<v Speaker 2>the priesthood. These people want to change the church, right

888
01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:40.159
<v Speaker 2>this mirriam Usuf woman, all right, she's blogging about all

889
01:06:40.199 --> 01:06:45.199
<v Speaker 2>this of this microaggressions and social justice warriors. These people

890
01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:49.000
<v Speaker 2>want to change the church. Sorry, but you don't have

891
01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:52.239
<v Speaker 2>the right to do that. And you're working from a

892
01:06:52.360 --> 01:06:55.639
<v Speaker 2>spirit of wickedness. What does what does scriptures say that

893
01:06:56.079 --> 01:06:59.480
<v Speaker 2>the spirit of rebellion is like the spirit of rebellion

894
01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:04.960
<v Speaker 2>is like witchcraft. The sin of rebellion is as the

895
01:07:05.039 --> 01:07:12.440
<v Speaker 2>sin of witchcraft. So get out of here, witches. Any

896
01:07:12.519 --> 01:07:18.360
<v Speaker 2>significance to old baptism being for men only, that is

897
01:07:18.519 --> 01:07:21.159
<v Speaker 2>not true. I don't know what you mean old baptism.

898
01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:26.360
<v Speaker 2>You mean circumcision. If you mean circumcision, then yes, as

899
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I pointed out, circumcisions signified ancestral sin. On the one hand,

900
01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:39.400
<v Speaker 2>the sense of the transition, the transmission of ancestral sin

901
01:07:40.920 --> 01:07:43.320
<v Speaker 2>through all the descendants of Adam, and that transmission has

902
01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:49.000
<v Speaker 2>had through the male member. It's the semen that creates

903
01:07:49.400 --> 01:07:52.280
<v Speaker 2>a new human being. That doesn't mean that women didn't

904
01:07:52.320 --> 01:07:56.960
<v Speaker 2>have ancestral sin. All human beings did. But the transmission

905
01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:03.039
<v Speaker 2>occurs through the sexual copulation act from one generation to

906
01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:06.199
<v Speaker 2>the next, and By the way, that doesn't mean that

907
01:08:06.239 --> 01:08:10.280
<v Speaker 2>ancestral sin is a thing, a substance that somehow meant

908
01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:18.439
<v Speaker 2>that humans were tainted. Corruption and sin are not things

909
01:08:18.520 --> 01:08:22.800
<v Speaker 2>that are They're not things. As the fathers say, evil

910
01:08:22.960 --> 01:08:26.520
<v Speaker 2>is only located in the turn of the will away

911
01:08:26.560 --> 01:08:30.199
<v Speaker 2>from the good. However, all of Adam's descendants have these

912
01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:33.920
<v Speaker 2>same propensities because they have his fallen nature. When we

913
01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:36.319
<v Speaker 2>talk about fallen or corupted nature, we don't mean that

914
01:08:36.399 --> 01:08:39.000
<v Speaker 2>the nature itself is inherently evil. This is the error

915
01:08:39.079 --> 01:08:43.800
<v Speaker 2>of Manicheans, of Calvinists, Lutherans, and Protestants. Many times they

916
01:08:43.840 --> 01:08:47.000
<v Speaker 2>conceive of original sin as somehow being something connected to

917
01:08:47.319 --> 01:08:51.359
<v Speaker 2>man's nature itself, which is to then give sin substance

918
01:08:51.640 --> 01:08:55.439
<v Speaker 2>or being or ontological existence, which is the Manichean heresy.

919
01:08:55.920 --> 01:08:59.439
<v Speaker 2>Sin does not have ontological being or existence. It's not

920
01:08:59.560 --> 01:09:01.960
<v Speaker 2>a thing. It's a move of the will away from

921
01:09:01.960 --> 01:09:10.840
<v Speaker 2>the good. So baptism, so the significance of circumcision was

922
01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:14.119
<v Speaker 2>only to be a type of baptism. And what it

923
01:09:14.199 --> 01:09:16.479
<v Speaker 2>was supposed to teach, as we said, according to Jeremiah,

924
01:09:16.680 --> 01:09:20.319
<v Speaker 2>was to throw off the foreskin of your hearts. In

925
01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:23.880
<v Speaker 2>other words, you have hard hearts you need to cut

926
01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:29.439
<v Speaker 2>away the outer hard heartedness that you have, right, and

927
01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:31.760
<v Speaker 2>the reason that you have this is because you are

928
01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:38.000
<v Speaker 2>a son of Adam. That's wine, dan Mann. What do

929
01:09:38.119 --> 01:09:40.640
<v Speaker 2>you think are the problems with praxeology? Go listen to

930
01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:44.119
<v Speaker 2>the debates with Robert Taylor. We had multiple debates one

931
01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:49.039
<v Speaker 2>to three debates with Robert Taylor on theism and capitalism,

932
01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:52.920
<v Speaker 2>and the problems are all outlined there. It's a retarded

933
01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:59.279
<v Speaker 2>system based in Marxism and anarchism, based on the idea

934
01:09:59.479 --> 01:10:04.239
<v Speaker 2>of calculating human actions as if you're some sort of computer.

935
01:10:04.399 --> 01:10:12.800
<v Speaker 2>It's a completely autistic, retarded thing. Yeah, and all three

936
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:16.439
<v Speaker 2>of the debates with Robert Taylor, pre eminent proponent of praxeology,

937
01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:21.880
<v Speaker 2>shows how retarded it is. Paul Albert, thank you fifty dollars.

938
01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for all you do. Jake up the good work. Well,

939
01:10:23.680 --> 01:10:26.399
<v Speaker 2>thank you, Paul. Thank you for supporting my work.

940
01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:27.960
<v Speaker 3>And I will.

941
01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Continue to put this stuff out as long as we

942
01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:34.920
<v Speaker 2>have support and the freedom to talk about these things.

943
01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Robert Taylor not the same Robert Taylor. By the way,

944
01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:43.279
<v Speaker 2>what's a good elevator pitch for orthodoxy for Protestants and Catholics?

945
01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:45.520
<v Speaker 2>My wife and I get a lot of what is orthodoxy.

946
01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't try to do quick elevator pitches. I was

947
01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:53.359
<v Speaker 2>just just send people the documentary on the Icon, which

948
01:10:53.439 --> 01:10:57.680
<v Speaker 2>is a popular YouTube documentary. I think it's it's like

949
01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:01.680
<v Speaker 2>three hours. But if the person's not willing to invest

950
01:11:01.720 --> 01:11:05.359
<v Speaker 2>three hours in the documentary, then they're not that interested anyway.

951
01:11:05.720 --> 01:11:08.319
<v Speaker 2>And so anybody who is willing to invest three three

952
01:11:08.399 --> 01:11:11.800
<v Speaker 2>hours in the Icon documentary, I would say is worth

953
01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:16.319
<v Speaker 2>talking to. So that Icon documentary is really good. Jim

954
01:11:16.359 --> 01:11:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Strange five dollars, best apologetics on YouTube, Thank you, Jay, Well,

955
01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:26.039
<v Speaker 2>thank you Jim. There's not a lot of apologetics going

956
01:11:26.079 --> 01:11:28.760
<v Speaker 2>on on YouTube, really, I mean, that's that good, So

957
01:11:29.079 --> 01:11:31.760
<v Speaker 2>thank you. In other words, I don't think it's necessarily

958
01:11:31.800 --> 01:11:33.439
<v Speaker 2>that I'm that good, but there's not a lot of

959
01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:36.079
<v Speaker 2>apologetics out there anyway. That's any good, right, I mean,

960
01:11:36.680 --> 01:11:41.920
<v Speaker 2>all these Protestant presubpositionalists, they're terrible, good grief. They give

961
01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:46.079
<v Speaker 2>transcendental arguments a bad name, by the way. So so

962
01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:50.000
<v Speaker 2>thank you there, Jim Strange. Randy Churchill twenty dollars, Thank you, Randy.

963
01:11:50.039 --> 01:11:53.039
<v Speaker 2>Appreciate that. White Top two dollars, thank you, White top.

964
01:11:54.560 --> 01:11:57.000
<v Speaker 2>All right, excellent, to really appreciate you guys. All right,

965
01:11:57.159 --> 01:11:59.159
<v Speaker 2>we do want to get to some philosophy here. I

966
01:11:59.199 --> 01:12:03.720
<v Speaker 2>don't want to mind or everyone in the theological minutia,

967
01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:09.880
<v Speaker 2>although it was important. Again, people are confused over two extremes.

968
01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:15.560
<v Speaker 2>On the one hand of judaizing heresy of the Evangelicals,

969
01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:17.359
<v Speaker 2>and then they go to the other extreme of some

970
01:12:17.479 --> 01:12:22.159
<v Speaker 2>sort of weird gnostic thing where Marcianism type thing where

971
01:12:22.439 --> 01:12:25.359
<v Speaker 2>like the idea of jew with some later invention, and

972
01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:28.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, people don't know what they're talking about.

973
01:12:28.199 --> 01:12:30.079
<v Speaker 2>That's because they don't know the Bible. That's the problem

974
01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:32.920
<v Speaker 2>here is that people are not actually familiar with what's

975
01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:37.680
<v Speaker 2>in scripture. So they read these blogs and these websites

976
01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:40.079
<v Speaker 2>and these they come up with these weird views. And

977
01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:43.039
<v Speaker 2>trust me, I know, I've spent twenty years wandering through

978
01:12:43.159 --> 01:12:45.399
<v Speaker 2>all of these different views, you know. I mean I

979
01:12:45.439 --> 01:12:49.119
<v Speaker 2>went from being a Baptist that grew up Baptists into

980
01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:54.560
<v Speaker 2>reading the Church Father's Church history, right, Calvinism, and then Catholicism.

981
01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:57.720
<v Speaker 2>And this is before I even knew about Orthodoxy. Right,

982
01:12:57.800 --> 01:12:59.760
<v Speaker 2>So Orthodoxy is kind of a hidden thing in America.

983
01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:02.960
<v Speaker 2>You really have to seek it out. Uh, and Orthodoxy

984
01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:05.159
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have It's not like all there's no more problems, right,

985
01:13:05.199 --> 01:13:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, any church, any place you go, there's gonna

986
01:13:06.920 --> 01:13:13.479
<v Speaker 2>be problems. But I find the Orthodoxy, historically speaking, traditional

987
01:13:13.560 --> 01:13:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Orthodox theology really has the answers to to all of

988
01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:23.520
<v Speaker 2>these these difficulties, you know. So okay, we're gonna get

989
01:13:23.520 --> 01:13:26.359
<v Speaker 2>to the philosophy now, defense of traditional philosophy and metaphysics.

990
01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:28.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna recommend a bunch of good books and essays

991
01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:31.880
<v Speaker 2>here because I think we probably will have a lot

992
01:13:31.960 --> 01:13:38.600
<v Speaker 2>of inquirers or challengers or people curious in regard to atheism,

993
01:13:38.720 --> 01:13:41.640
<v Speaker 2>in regard to evolution, in regard to scientism, in regard

994
01:13:41.720 --> 01:13:48.960
<v Speaker 2>to to anti metaphysical, deontologist, deconstructionist type views. So we

995
01:13:49.039 --> 01:13:55.520
<v Speaker 2>want to get to all that. Okay, So he did,

996
01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:59.439
<v Speaker 2>and he did mean circumcision as old baptism. Yeah, okay,

997
01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:01.359
<v Speaker 2>that's a good way to put it. Uh. You could

998
01:14:01.439 --> 01:14:06.319
<v Speaker 2>look at Israel is old church. Circumcision is old baptism. Yeah,

999
01:14:06.359 --> 01:14:08.279
<v Speaker 2>it's a good way to put it. So we're gonna

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01:14:08.279 --> 01:14:10.239
<v Speaker 2>play the song real quick, just because I need to

1001
01:14:10.279 --> 01:14:14.119
<v Speaker 2>pour more coffee. And after an entire pot of coffee,

1002
01:14:14.119 --> 01:14:18.600
<v Speaker 2>I gotta have some I gotta have some some pee

1003
01:14:18.640 --> 01:14:23.039
<v Speaker 2>pee time. I gotta go whizz, gotta drain the lizard.

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01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:57.359
<v Speaker 3>As the kids say, it's Jay di.

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01:14:57.479 --> 01:16:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Er, Jason Allison, jay Iyer's day smells it, Jay Dier's

1006
01:16:42.319 --> 01:17:18.079
<v Speaker 1>to Day's analysis, Jay diers Day's analysis.

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01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Alright, so let's remind ourselves that the two branches, the

1008
01:17:52.239 --> 01:18:00.800
<v Speaker 2>three branches of philosophy are ethics, metaphysics, and epistemology. This

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01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:05.640
<v Speaker 2>is traditionally, historically how it's been divided up. Divisions in

1010
01:18:06.039 --> 01:18:11.399
<v Speaker 2>topics does not mean that they are necessarily divided in reality.

1011
01:18:12.079 --> 01:18:14.960
<v Speaker 2>This is a problem that the vegans were falling into,

1012
01:18:16.479 --> 01:18:20.520
<v Speaker 2>which is really kind of a basic philosophical error, the

1013
01:18:20.640 --> 01:18:23.479
<v Speaker 2>idea that because you can speak of something distinct, that

1014
01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:27.520
<v Speaker 2>they are in fact distinct in reality. I don't believe that.

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01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:30.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I think that if you've read

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01:18:30.239 --> 01:18:38.680
<v Speaker 2>my essay on the fact that epistemology, for example, presupposes

1017
01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:44.119
<v Speaker 2>ethics and metaphysics, and vice versa, ethics presupposes metaphysics and epistemology,

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01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:46.560
<v Speaker 2>then you know that the school of thought that I

1019
01:18:46.640 --> 01:18:50.680
<v Speaker 2>come from, the worldview that I promote sees all those

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<v Speaker 2>things as integrally connected. Now, how do we know that?

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01:18:54.520 --> 01:18:55.960
<v Speaker 2>How do we show that? Well, I wrote a whole

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01:18:56.079 --> 01:18:58.159
<v Speaker 2>essay on it which everybody can go read. Then want

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01:18:58.239 --> 01:19:02.039
<v Speaker 2>to see the fuller treatment of it. But quite simply,

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01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:04.840
<v Speaker 2>it should be obvious that these things are connected. For example,

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<v Speaker 2>if I make a claim to know that, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that it is wrong to kill someone, Okay,

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01:19:16.560 --> 01:19:19.520
<v Speaker 2>that is, or if I believe that it's wrong to

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01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:24.560
<v Speaker 2>kill someone, or I think that it is ethically it's

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01:19:24.600 --> 01:19:28.520
<v Speaker 2>a violation of ethics to kill someone. That assumes that

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01:19:28.760 --> 01:19:32.159
<v Speaker 2>I have some knowledge right that it's wrong to do that.

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01:19:33.279 --> 01:19:35.560
<v Speaker 2>When we talk about killing someone, we're talking about actions

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01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:39.760
<v Speaker 2>that take place in the external world. That immediately involves metaphysics. So,

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<v Speaker 2>in other words, generally speaking, unless I believe that everything

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01:19:43.479 --> 01:19:48.439
<v Speaker 2>in my mind is a projection of some phantasm, or

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01:19:48.479 --> 01:19:53.560
<v Speaker 2>if everything is a syllipsistic sort of surrealist world in

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01:19:53.640 --> 01:19:57.039
<v Speaker 2>my mind, then I assume that the people are are

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01:19:57.520 --> 01:20:01.560
<v Speaker 2>other entities, right, they're beings other than me. Unless I

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01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:06.159
<v Speaker 2>believe in Maya or I believe in surrealism, those are

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01:20:06.279 --> 01:20:10.159
<v Speaker 2>other people who have dignity and rights. Correct, And so,

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01:20:10.279 --> 01:20:12.600
<v Speaker 2>in other words, immediately you begin to see when you

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01:20:12.680 --> 01:20:16.760
<v Speaker 2>ask just a few questions about the assumptions that go

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01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:20.720
<v Speaker 2>into talking about any ethical question or dilemma, you start

1043
01:20:20.800 --> 01:20:26.119
<v Speaker 2>to realize that they don't operate apart from other branches

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01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:30.119
<v Speaker 2>of philosophy or other questions of philosophy. When I say

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01:20:30.479 --> 01:20:36.079
<v Speaker 2>I believe it's wrong to kill, that assumes that I'm

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01:20:36.199 --> 01:20:39.399
<v Speaker 2>a subject, that I'm a person, That I'm a being

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01:20:39.720 --> 01:20:44.520
<v Speaker 2>who can choose, who wills this or that, who can

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01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:48.680
<v Speaker 2>commit actions in a world, in an external world that

1049
01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:53.159
<v Speaker 2>affects other beings. Again, unless I adopt some view that

1050
01:20:53.359 --> 01:20:56.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, all of reality is just a simulation of

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01:20:56.079 --> 01:20:59.640
<v Speaker 2>my mind, or something right, some bizarre for our Eastern view,

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01:20:59.720 --> 01:21:04.239
<v Speaker 2>or something thing. You know, we tend to operate on

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01:21:04.399 --> 01:21:08.680
<v Speaker 2>the basis of the assumptions of Western or Christian metaphysics

1054
01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:13.520
<v Speaker 2>and philosophy. Even having divorced our worldviews from the theology

1055
01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:16.359
<v Speaker 2>a long time ago, we still act like beings out

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01:21:16.399 --> 01:21:18.640
<v Speaker 2>there in the world are separate beings that have some

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01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:22.199
<v Speaker 2>sort of choice or dignity. Even though we might construct

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01:21:22.279 --> 01:21:27.680
<v Speaker 2>physical metaphysical systems or anti metaphysical systems where those beings

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01:21:27.760 --> 01:21:31.359
<v Speaker 2>have no rights, we still in practice continue to operate

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01:21:31.520 --> 01:21:34.279
<v Speaker 2>like they are right. I mean, nobody consistently lives out

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01:21:34.800 --> 01:21:41.840
<v Speaker 2>a completely will to power, you know, predatory social Darwinian worldview,

1062
01:21:42.239 --> 01:21:44.600
<v Speaker 2>unless you're like, you know, the top globalists or something.

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01:21:44.640 --> 01:21:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Most people don't consistently day to day live that way.

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01:21:49.279 --> 01:21:49.399
<v Speaker 3>Right.

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01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:52.880
<v Speaker 2>They act as if it's wrong for people to steal

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01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:56.720
<v Speaker 2>their money, to cheat them. Right, it's not wrong, you know,

1067
01:21:56.880 --> 01:22:03.640
<v Speaker 2>unless there's some force or truth behind ethical or metaphysical norms,

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01:22:04.199 --> 01:22:08.600
<v Speaker 2>unless there's some kind of absolutist wrong and right, unless

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01:22:08.600 --> 01:22:13.840
<v Speaker 2>there's some sort of objectivity in regard to knowledge claims,

1070
01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:18.359
<v Speaker 2>truth claims, etcetera, etcetera. Right. So, when we understand that

1071
01:22:18.640 --> 01:22:24.439
<v Speaker 2>presubsitionalism is not a shady word game, but in fact

1072
01:22:24.840 --> 01:22:29.680
<v Speaker 2>a host of real philosophical questions that can be asked

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01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:34.600
<v Speaker 2>and should be asked, we start to see how many

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01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:37.239
<v Speaker 2>things we assume. And this is kind of a basic

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01:22:37.319 --> 01:22:39.840
<v Speaker 2>point in philosophy. So the point I'm getting out with

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01:22:39.880 --> 01:22:41.800
<v Speaker 2>that is that when we look at the modern world,

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01:22:42.840 --> 01:22:45.880
<v Speaker 2>when we look at the anti philosophical stance of much

1078
01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:50.279
<v Speaker 2>of the modern world, why so many of the purveyors

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01:22:50.319 --> 01:22:54.000
<v Speaker 2>of scientism actually just come out and say philosophy is worthless.

1080
01:22:54.239 --> 01:22:57.399
<v Speaker 2>It's precisely because of this issue. It's precisely because when

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01:22:57.479 --> 01:23:00.840
<v Speaker 2>we start to nail them on points, they have to

1082
01:23:01.319 --> 01:23:03.960
<v Speaker 2>resort to the denial of philosophy. But no, wait a minute,

1083
01:23:04.079 --> 01:23:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Logic is part of philosophy. It's absolutely part of philosophy.

1084
01:23:09.600 --> 01:23:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Nobody can deny this right, And so the denial of

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01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:16.159
<v Speaker 2>philosophy just sort of out of hand, like we see

1086
01:23:16.159 --> 01:23:19.239
<v Speaker 2>with somebody like Neil deGrasse Tyson, is so absurd that

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01:23:19.680 --> 01:23:22.520
<v Speaker 2>it denies the very things that he claims to have

1088
01:23:24.560 --> 01:23:29.680
<v Speaker 2>full control of, like the scientific crowd, the scientistic crowd,

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01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:34.119
<v Speaker 2>they alone are the purveyors of reason and logic, and

1090
01:23:34.239 --> 01:23:38.479
<v Speaker 2>yet they turn around and we'll talk about philosophy being worthless. Well,

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01:23:38.520 --> 01:23:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, but nobody can deny logic is a function

1092
01:23:42.159 --> 01:23:48.039
<v Speaker 2>of philosophy. So it really amounts to endless, countless absurdities

1093
01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:53.000
<v Speaker 2>when we start to ask very basic questions. And part

1094
01:23:53.039 --> 01:23:55.720
<v Speaker 2>of this is due to the fact that people don't

1095
01:23:55.840 --> 01:23:58.640
<v Speaker 2>know philosophy. They have not studied it. They have not

1096
01:23:58.720 --> 01:24:01.520
<v Speaker 2>read Plato, they have not read They've not read any

1097
01:24:01.600 --> 01:24:04.680
<v Speaker 2>of these major figures. They've not read Hume. They don't

1098
01:24:04.720 --> 01:24:08.840
<v Speaker 2>know the major debates, major discourses, they don't know the

1099
01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:13.039
<v Speaker 2>course of ideas, in Western thought, how ideas lead to

1100
01:24:13.199 --> 01:24:16.119
<v Speaker 2>other ideas, And yes they do if you don't know that.

1101
01:24:17.159 --> 01:24:20.039
<v Speaker 2>They don't know any of this stuff, but they're more

1102
01:24:20.119 --> 01:24:24.279
<v Speaker 2>than willing to get in your face, lose their shit,

1103
01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:29.079
<v Speaker 2>and become unhinged with a little bit of philosophy. Right,

1104
01:24:29.640 --> 01:24:33.399
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing more dangerous than a twenty two year old

1105
01:24:33.479 --> 01:24:37.359
<v Speaker 2>who's had a little bit of philosophy let loose on YouTube.

1106
01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:41.000
<v Speaker 2>This is like the worst thing in the world. And yes,

1107
01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:47.880
<v Speaker 2>we can all sympathize with this somewhat. I mean, I'm

1108
01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:50.039
<v Speaker 2>sure that at age twenty two when I was taking

1109
01:24:50.039 --> 01:24:56.279
<v Speaker 2>my philosophy classes, I was completely insufferable, I'm sure, but

1110
01:24:56.399 --> 01:24:59.439
<v Speaker 2>maybe not as bad as some of these guys, because

1111
01:24:59.439 --> 01:25:08.760
<v Speaker 2>I was already a pretty committed, grounded presuppositionalist and proponent

1112
01:25:08.800 --> 01:25:11.520
<v Speaker 2>of transcendental augmentation at age twenty two. I think I

1113
01:25:11.560 --> 01:25:15.039
<v Speaker 2>first came into contact with us about age twenty or

1114
01:25:15.119 --> 01:25:19.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty one. Was my first exposure to that school of thought.

1115
01:25:20.039 --> 01:25:23.479
<v Speaker 2>I read Van Til's Apologetic in Toto. I bought it

1116
01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:26.119
<v Speaker 2>right away, and I read all eight hundred pages right

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01:25:26.119 --> 01:25:28.279
<v Speaker 2>away at about age twenty or twenty one, and that

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01:25:28.399 --> 01:25:34.239
<v Speaker 2>was my introduction to transcendent augmentation and thought. And I

1119
01:25:34.439 --> 01:25:38.600
<v Speaker 2>was impressed. I was really taken with the force of

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01:25:38.680 --> 01:25:42.680
<v Speaker 2>the argumentation, the force of the logic, the power of

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01:25:42.760 --> 01:25:48.600
<v Speaker 2>the arguments. The basically, as Bonson once said, nuclear strength apologetics.

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01:25:48.640 --> 01:25:55.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, I think that's true. And that's because we

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01:25:55.279 --> 01:25:57.239
<v Speaker 2>have to always we have to always make these qualifications

1124
01:25:57.279 --> 01:26:00.640
<v Speaker 2>because people get get confused. It's not because those Kant

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01:26:01.479 --> 01:26:04.319
<v Speaker 2>was the greatest thinker. Okay. So people who don't know

1126
01:26:04.439 --> 01:26:08.079
<v Speaker 2>these this realm or this stuff, they hear this, these

1127
01:26:08.359 --> 01:26:10.520
<v Speaker 2>terms and they mean, oh, you're talking about cont Okay,

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01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:12.359
<v Speaker 2>So Jay is a kantient. No no, no, no, no,

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01:26:12.640 --> 01:26:16.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Now, transcendent arguments have a long, much

1130
01:26:16.600 --> 01:26:20.640
<v Speaker 2>longer heritage and pedigree than em manual Kant. As we

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01:26:20.760 --> 01:26:23.399
<v Speaker 2>pointed out, we see transcendent arguments in Ariostole in the

1132
01:26:23.439 --> 01:26:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Metaphysics against the Sophist. As we pointed out, in terms

1133
01:26:27.039 --> 01:26:29.600
<v Speaker 2>of Orthodoxy, we see Saint John Damascus and his Fount

1134
01:26:29.640 --> 01:26:32.399
<v Speaker 2>of Knowledge use a transcendent argument at the very beginning,

1135
01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:38.760
<v Speaker 2>echoing Ariostol. So transcendent arguments have had an interesting history.

1136
01:26:39.079 --> 01:26:42.880
<v Speaker 2>They popped up here and there. We see inklings of

1137
01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:46.439
<v Speaker 2>it in certain apologetic approaches. I mean, the ontological argument

1138
01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:48.880
<v Speaker 2>is not a good argument, but it's a little more

1139
01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:54.119
<v Speaker 2>down the road of an a priori transcendental argument for

1140
01:26:54.239 --> 01:26:58.840
<v Speaker 2>God than the so called classical arguments. So there's been

1141
01:26:58.880 --> 01:27:03.840
<v Speaker 2>some interesting inklings of it here and there. But and

1142
01:27:03.960 --> 01:27:09.439
<v Speaker 2>we might even look at the Descartes ontological argument. It's interesting,

1143
01:27:09.680 --> 01:27:13.520
<v Speaker 2>but it still is flawed. It's still not a full

1144
01:27:13.640 --> 01:27:19.199
<v Speaker 2>fledged transnit argument. Okay. So, but the reason we're talking

1145
01:27:19.199 --> 01:27:23.560
<v Speaker 2>about this is just a stress that that, in my mind,

1146
01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:28.800
<v Speaker 2>philosophy has always been about asking questions. That's at least

1147
01:27:28.840 --> 01:27:32.760
<v Speaker 2>one big part of it, right, And the irony about

1148
01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:39.319
<v Speaker 2>modern scientism, which is so sort of shocking to me,

1149
01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:43.520
<v Speaker 2>like an ultimate level double think here, is that science

1150
01:27:44.359 --> 01:27:47.560
<v Speaker 2>is grounded on the idea of asking questions, and yet

1151
01:27:47.560 --> 01:27:50.960
<v Speaker 2>they turn around and they will dogmatically tell you the

1152
01:27:51.079 --> 01:27:54.520
<v Speaker 2>questions that you cannot ask. Okay, So what they essentially

1153
01:27:54.640 --> 01:27:58.239
<v Speaker 2>mean is you can only ask questions within the paradigm

1154
01:27:58.319 --> 01:28:01.439
<v Speaker 2>or presuppositions of what I find and acceptable questions to be.

1155
01:28:02.119 --> 01:28:05.119
<v Speaker 2>If you ask a question about the status of logic,

1156
01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:09.520
<v Speaker 2>if you ask a question about the nature of concepts,

1157
01:28:09.760 --> 01:28:12.039
<v Speaker 2>if you ask a question about how is it that

1158
01:28:13.199 --> 01:28:17.439
<v Speaker 2>claims can be true over time. These kinds of philosophical questions,

1159
01:28:17.600 --> 01:28:21.279
<v Speaker 2>those are illegal questions, Those are retard questions. Those are

1160
01:28:21.279 --> 01:28:24.000
<v Speaker 2>the questions that are not allowed in so called science.

1161
01:28:24.119 --> 01:28:27.359
<v Speaker 2>Why is that, Well, because science investigates the natural world,

1162
01:28:27.560 --> 01:28:30.840
<v Speaker 2>we're told, Well, that just assumes that the questions that

1163
01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:33.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm asking have nothing to do with the natural world,

1164
01:28:33.520 --> 01:28:36.119
<v Speaker 2>and I think that they do. In other words, they

1165
01:28:36.159 --> 01:28:40.279
<v Speaker 2>do not want any investigation of the scientific method itself

1166
01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:44.520
<v Speaker 2>in terms of how it functions via logic, and yes,

1167
01:28:44.760 --> 01:28:48.439
<v Speaker 2>the scientific method follows logical patterns and principles, whether they

1168
01:28:48.520 --> 01:28:51.239
<v Speaker 2>know it or not. They do not want questions revolving

1169
01:28:51.319 --> 01:28:56.279
<v Speaker 2>around the ethicality of science. Generally speaking, they do not

1170
01:28:56.399 --> 01:29:00.399
<v Speaker 2>want questions involving the metaphysics of science and scientific methodology

1171
01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:02.560
<v Speaker 2>and all of this you will learn when you take

1172
01:29:02.680 --> 01:29:06.079
<v Speaker 2>a philosophy of science class. You will be introduced to

1173
01:29:06.279 --> 01:29:10.239
<v Speaker 2>a host of questions that are assumed in the philosophic

1174
01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:16.800
<v Speaker 2>method of science or in the natural sciences. Right now.

1175
01:29:17.079 --> 01:29:20.359
<v Speaker 2>They also are never aware nine a nine point nine

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01:29:20.359 --> 01:29:24.600
<v Speaker 2>percent of the time. They're not aware of powerful influences

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01:29:24.960 --> 01:29:29.359
<v Speaker 2>in the history of science and the natural sciences scientific method.

1178
01:29:29.760 --> 01:29:32.720
<v Speaker 2>Royal Society. Right, I could count on my hand the

1179
01:29:32.840 --> 01:29:36.319
<v Speaker 2>number of times I've talked to academics or people from

1180
01:29:36.399 --> 01:29:38.079
<v Speaker 2>that world. I know of three off the top of

1181
01:29:38.119 --> 01:29:42.079
<v Speaker 2>my head who are very familiar with the power that,

1182
01:29:42.239 --> 01:29:47.119
<v Speaker 2>for example, the Royal Society has had in influencing the

1183
01:29:47.239 --> 01:29:52.079
<v Speaker 2>methodology of science throughout the world of academia. And this

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01:29:52.279 --> 01:29:56.640
<v Speaker 2>is why, for example, we had the Lancet, or the

1185
01:29:57.199 --> 01:30:02.640
<v Speaker 2>famous magazine Medical Journal of Oxford. A couple of years ago,

1186
01:30:02.800 --> 01:30:07.039
<v Speaker 2>the editor of the Lancet put out a startling admission

1187
01:30:07.319 --> 01:30:11.359
<v Speaker 2>in the journal. It's still public, by the way, that

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01:30:11.600 --> 01:30:17.439
<v Speaker 2>half of the world's scientific peer review papers are fraudulent. Yes,

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01:30:17.600 --> 01:30:21.239
<v Speaker 2>you heard me right, Half of the world's scientific papers

1190
01:30:22.520 --> 01:30:28.039
<v Speaker 2>peer reviewed are fraudulent. Well that's pretty devastating to the

1191
01:30:28.079 --> 01:30:31.079
<v Speaker 2>assumptions of scientistm isn't it. And yes, they will go

1192
01:30:31.439 --> 01:30:34.359
<v Speaker 2>ape shit when you mentioned this. But now, wait a minute.

1193
01:30:34.479 --> 01:30:39.319
<v Speaker 2>This comes from the top of the scientific establishment, doesn't it.

1194
01:30:39.960 --> 01:30:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Let's see if I can pull it up. Half of

1195
01:30:46.359 --> 01:30:54.520
<v Speaker 2>scientific papers are frauds. Yeah, I think I've got it

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01:30:54.640 --> 01:31:00.600
<v Speaker 2>right here. Now. The Lancet is, of course, the world's

1197
01:31:00.600 --> 01:31:05.159
<v Speaker 2>premiere science journal. And guess what you're gonna notice something

1198
01:31:05.199 --> 01:31:10.439
<v Speaker 2>here in this little beautiful admission here, you're gonna see

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01:31:10.640 --> 01:31:13.800
<v Speaker 2>something to do with the Royal Society, aren't you. You're

1200
01:31:13.800 --> 01:31:16.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna see something to do with what's called Chatham House Rules.

1201
01:31:17.800 --> 01:31:22.159
<v Speaker 2>What Chatham House Rules? What would that have to do

1202
01:31:22.359 --> 01:31:25.000
<v Speaker 2>with science? Well, it has nothing to do with science,

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01:31:25.039 --> 01:31:35.359
<v Speaker 2>because science is a purely neutral framework, isn't it. And

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01:31:35.560 --> 01:31:38.039
<v Speaker 2>I will I'm gonna go ahead right now and put

1205
01:31:38.239 --> 01:31:41.720
<v Speaker 2>the link to this because this is very important and

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01:31:41.840 --> 01:31:45.920
<v Speaker 2>not many people know about this. Now I talked about

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01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:50.920
<v Speaker 2>it endlessly. Notice there's your Chatham House Rules picture there.

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01:31:51.319 --> 01:31:53.039
<v Speaker 2>You don't know what Chatham House is. You don't know

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01:31:53.039 --> 01:31:54.199
<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about. You don't even need to be

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01:31:54.199 --> 01:32:00.640
<v Speaker 2>trying to debate me. It's very difficult to get this paper,

1211
01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:12.680
<v Speaker 2>this journal here like to fit on this screen. The

1212
01:32:12.760 --> 01:32:16.039
<v Speaker 2>case against science is straightforward. Much of the scientific literature,

1213
01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:22.880
<v Speaker 2>perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Now, by the way,

1214
01:32:22.920 --> 01:32:29.159
<v Speaker 2>there's countless studies and people have done countless test cases

1215
01:32:29.439 --> 01:32:33.960
<v Speaker 2>where they get gibberish published in peer review, where they

1216
01:32:34.359 --> 01:32:37.319
<v Speaker 2>have papers written by AI that are that are nonsense

1217
01:32:37.399 --> 01:32:40.319
<v Speaker 2>and get published in peer review. This there have been

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01:32:40.479 --> 01:32:49.039
<v Speaker 2>multiple examples of this. Let me add this while I'm

1219
01:32:49.079 --> 01:32:52.640
<v Speaker 2>doing so here in the in the show description, I'm

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01:32:52.680 --> 01:32:54.560
<v Speaker 2>gonna have this just right now at the very top.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from the Lancet uh And again I can't

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<v Speaker 2>fit the whole thing on the screen because it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a journal thing. And this is by the editor of

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01:33:04.680 --> 01:33:08.720
<v Speaker 2>the Lanses. So again one of the top medical journals,

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01:33:09.079 --> 01:33:16.880
<v Speaker 2>most prestigious in the world, and the very beginning of

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01:33:16.920 --> 01:33:18.880
<v Speaker 2>it says a lot of what is published is incorrect.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not allowed to say who made this remark because

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<v Speaker 2>we are asked to observe Chatham House rules. What is

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01:33:25.920 --> 01:33:27.680
<v Speaker 2>this doing in a scientific journal?

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01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:28.039
<v Speaker 1>What?

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01:33:28.640 --> 01:33:31.039
<v Speaker 2>I thought we had academic freedom to ask any questions

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01:33:31.079 --> 01:33:33.560
<v Speaker 2>that we wanted. I thought I thought science told us

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01:33:34.680 --> 01:33:37.199
<v Speaker 2>how the world works. And yet here at this top

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01:33:37.439 --> 01:33:45.319
<v Speaker 2>prestigious academic medical scientific journal from Oxford, he's not allowed

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01:33:45.439 --> 01:33:50.159
<v Speaker 2>to say what's going on because of Chatham House rules. Well,

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01:33:50.239 --> 01:33:52.640
<v Speaker 2>guess what, Jason Alysis knows what's going on because we've

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01:33:52.640 --> 01:33:55.000
<v Speaker 2>been telling you about it for years. I've been telling

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01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:58.880
<v Speaker 2>you about the Rural Society and it's scientific scammery and

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01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:02.159
<v Speaker 2>how they have promoted Darwinism for the last several centuries

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01:34:02.199 --> 01:34:06.760
<v Speaker 2>by design, because they have a definite agenda and worldview,

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01:34:06.840 --> 01:34:09.479
<v Speaker 2>which is to dehumanize you and to kill you. They

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01:34:09.479 --> 01:34:13.079
<v Speaker 2>are all committed. That's Chathamhow's rules, right, don't tell the

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01:34:13.159 --> 01:34:17.000
<v Speaker 2>truth to the slaves that are destined to be killed.

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01:34:19.279 --> 01:34:24.079
<v Speaker 2>And again, who else has done tragian hope telling you this?

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01:34:24.199 --> 01:34:28.399
<v Speaker 2>Who else has done? The same people that run the

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01:34:28.520 --> 01:34:32.079
<v Speaker 2>system in tragian hope, the Anglo American establishment, right, it's

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01:34:32.239 --> 01:34:34.119
<v Speaker 2>the people at the top of the royal society. They're

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01:34:34.119 --> 01:34:36.159
<v Speaker 2>the same people. It's the same groups, the role in

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01:34:36.199 --> 01:34:39.960
<v Speaker 2>supernational affairs, the CFR right, the Rockefellers, they're roth Child's.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same people. They write journals, their top journals

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01:34:44.399 --> 01:34:47.279
<v Speaker 2>tell you science is fraudulent, and what do you do?

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01:34:47.479 --> 01:34:50.920
<v Speaker 2>You believe it because you believe in the fallacy of authority.

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01:34:51.680 --> 01:34:56.039
<v Speaker 2>So much for logic. Now, I'm not saying this means

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01:34:56.079 --> 01:34:58.720
<v Speaker 2>that all science is false, of course, not that would

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01:34:58.720 --> 01:35:03.119
<v Speaker 2>be retarded saying this means that scientists don't make discoveries.

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01:35:04.039 --> 01:35:09.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying it's very naive to assume that you know

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01:35:09.159 --> 01:35:11.520
<v Speaker 2>how science works. By the way, I'm published in peer review.

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01:35:12.319 --> 01:35:15.159
<v Speaker 2>I have a peer review published paper, so I know

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01:35:15.279 --> 01:35:19.880
<v Speaker 2>how this work process works. It's not a scientific paper.

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01:35:20.039 --> 01:35:23.800
<v Speaker 2>It's in an economic journal, but it is nevertheless peer review.

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<v Speaker 2>So the people who naively act like the way that

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<v Speaker 2>this happens is just everybody being neutral, and then they

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01:35:36.680 --> 01:35:39.439
<v Speaker 2>just you just whoever's got the best arguments and whoever's

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01:35:39.479 --> 01:35:41.680
<v Speaker 2>got the best data and research. They just put their

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<v Speaker 2>time in and they've put their paper in, and if

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01:35:44.199 --> 01:35:46.720
<v Speaker 2>if you've got the goods, you're gonna get published. Is

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01:35:46.840 --> 01:35:49.520
<v Speaker 2>utterly retarded. What could be more naive than this? Have

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<v Speaker 2>you ever actually been in academia? Have you been in

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<v Speaker 2>the grid world?

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01:35:53.079 --> 01:35:53.279
<v Speaker 3>I have?

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't work like that. You know how it really works.

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01:35:57.600 --> 01:36:03.760
<v Speaker 2>It's run by clicks of extreme leftists, extreme ideologues, extreme feminists,

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<v Speaker 2>extreme weirdos, creepers, quite literally all over academia, just freakin degenerates.

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<v Speaker 2>They are in clicks, they're in secret societies, they're in

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01:36:15.159 --> 01:36:19.239
<v Speaker 2>their own little networks. Many of them are bought and

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01:36:19.359 --> 01:36:25.479
<v Speaker 2>paid for by big foundations and even the CIA. They

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01:36:25.640 --> 01:36:29.680
<v Speaker 2>know that it's a racket. Again, the whole university system

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01:36:29.760 --> 01:36:34.000
<v Speaker 2>is a giant tax and debt racket. So why do

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01:36:34.079 --> 01:36:35.680
<v Speaker 2>you think they're all going to be telling you the truth?

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<v Speaker 2>They're not. They're liars and The way academia works is

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<v Speaker 2>that people aren't interested in truth. They are interested in

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01:36:45.479 --> 01:36:48.319
<v Speaker 2>making a name for themselves in academia to get funding.

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<v Speaker 2>That's number one. And the way that you do that

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01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:56.119
<v Speaker 2>is that you have to come up with interesting, weird theories.

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01:36:56.279 --> 01:36:59.760
<v Speaker 2>You have to come up with Shakespeare was actually a tranny.

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01:37:00.159 --> 01:37:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Let me give you the most technical analysis, trying to

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01:37:03.680 --> 01:37:07.079
<v Speaker 2>prove something completely retarded, and because it fits in with

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01:37:07.239 --> 01:37:11.039
<v Speaker 2>the overall agenda, you get shot up the ladder. That's

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01:37:11.079 --> 01:37:15.600
<v Speaker 2>how academia works. Right, when you publish your paper proving

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01:37:16.359 --> 01:37:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Shakespeare was a training, that's academia, dum dumbs. It's not

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01:37:21.279 --> 01:37:25.960
<v Speaker 2>this noble pursuit of truth and virtue. Far from it,

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01:37:26.560 --> 01:37:31.560
<v Speaker 2>read kun right. Structures of scientific revolution. Scientific revolutions don't

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01:37:31.600 --> 01:37:35.039
<v Speaker 2>come because everybody's nobly seeking the truth. Scientific revolutions come

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01:37:35.159 --> 01:37:38.720
<v Speaker 2>because somebody puts out something true and the entire establishment

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01:37:38.760 --> 01:37:40.840
<v Speaker 2>attacks it because they don't want to be wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if you have not heard all the old shows

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01:37:50.680 --> 01:37:52.560
<v Speaker 2>that I did with Hoaxtbusters, you can go back and

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01:37:52.640 --> 01:37:55.399
<v Speaker 2>listen to all those because we covered this ad nauseum.

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01:37:55.479 --> 01:37:58.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going through rehash two years worth of podcast

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01:37:58.600 --> 01:38:01.760
<v Speaker 2>discussing scientism when you can go listen to all those

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01:38:01.840 --> 01:38:06.039
<v Speaker 2>where we endlessly cover the many, many, many examples of

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01:38:06.800 --> 01:38:10.560
<v Speaker 2>scientific peer review being fraudulent, scientific peer review being busted

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01:38:10.600 --> 01:38:13.880
<v Speaker 2>as fraudulent on a mass scale. Did you hear me

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01:38:14.039 --> 01:38:18.159
<v Speaker 2>a mass scale of scientific research being fraudulent? And I

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01:38:18.239 --> 01:38:21.159
<v Speaker 2>can tell you from personal example that my mom was

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01:38:21.199 --> 01:38:24.920
<v Speaker 2>an editor for science journals for the biggest publisher in

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01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:28.840
<v Speaker 2>America at one time. I know how this works. And

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01:38:29.239 --> 01:38:30.840
<v Speaker 2>all these dumb dums that try to talk about it,

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01:38:30.880 --> 01:38:33.680
<v Speaker 2>they don't even know that scientific publishing is private. Do

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01:38:33.800 --> 01:38:36.680
<v Speaker 2>you think that billionaire companies might have a say in

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01:38:36.760 --> 01:38:41.760
<v Speaker 2>what gets published in scientific journals? Of course they do.

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01:38:43.079 --> 01:38:44.920
<v Speaker 2>It would be naive and stupid to think that they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>But how many of these naive scientism promoters have ever

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<v Speaker 2>even talked about this. They don't know who read l

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01:38:52.479 --> 01:38:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Cvier is. They don't know that read el Sevier publishes

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01:38:55.399 --> 01:38:59.399
<v Speaker 2>the biggest science journals in America and that they're a

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01:38:59.479 --> 01:39:03.960
<v Speaker 2>private billion dollar company. They don't know what Harcourt brace

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01:39:04.479 --> 01:39:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Yovanovich was in the eighties. They don't know about Harcourt Publishing.

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01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:11.760
<v Speaker 2>They don't know about the fact that Harcourt owned Sea World. Now,

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01:39:11.840 --> 01:39:13.399
<v Speaker 2>as you say, why does that matter, Well, because that

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01:39:13.479 --> 01:39:15.880
<v Speaker 2>shows you that the entities that are publishing the biggest

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01:39:16.039 --> 01:39:19.600
<v Speaker 2>science journals in the world are private entities that buy

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01:39:19.960 --> 01:39:24.840
<v Speaker 2>theme parks, so they're for profit. They're not noble pursuers

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01:39:24.880 --> 01:39:33.279
<v Speaker 2>of truth. Dummy, right, So again naivety, idiocy, People don't

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01:39:33.279 --> 01:39:37.399
<v Speaker 2>know what they're talking about, and people don't make connections

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<v Speaker 2>across disciplines. This is another problem with education. Right. So

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<v Speaker 2>one of the reasons that we the philosophy has been

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<v Speaker 2>discarded is that guess what philosophy teaches you to make connections.

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<v Speaker 2>Philosophy teaches you to think about the relationship between one

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01:39:51.680 --> 01:39:56.159
<v Speaker 2>thing and another thing and their connections. And the entirety

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01:39:56.199 --> 01:40:01.800
<v Speaker 2>of modern education is built on tearing down actions, excuse me,

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01:40:01.920 --> 01:40:07.079
<v Speaker 2>tearing down these relationships. So, for example, we all know,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully we're familiar with the idea of the Prussian education

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01:40:10.479 --> 01:40:15.560
<v Speaker 2>model and the idea of extreme compartmentalization. It was not

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<v Speaker 2>accidental that that's the educational model that the West accepted

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01:40:19.119 --> 01:40:22.640
<v Speaker 2>and adopted because the goal was to create socialized individuals,

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01:40:22.720 --> 01:40:24.680
<v Speaker 2>not educated individuals. And all you have to do is

1339
01:40:24.760 --> 01:40:27.239
<v Speaker 2>read John Dewey, Horace Mann and all the founders of

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01:40:27.239 --> 01:40:29.720
<v Speaker 2>American education, public education, they talk about that. They talk

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<v Speaker 2>about creating the socialized idiot individual, not the thinker, not

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01:40:35.199 --> 01:40:38.720
<v Speaker 2>the philosopher, not the person who makes connections, the person

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01:40:38.800 --> 01:40:44.039
<v Speaker 2>who only sticks to some minutia, some stupid detail, worthless thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Publishing your paper about the length of Shakespeare's strap on

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01:40:50.920 --> 01:40:53.520
<v Speaker 2>that he wore as a trainee, that's all you're supposed

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01:40:53.520 --> 01:40:55.840
<v Speaker 2>to know about in your academic I'm not joking by that.

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<v Speaker 2>You think that that's literally what the academic study. They

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01:40:58.920 --> 01:41:03.920
<v Speaker 2>will study their lives into proving Shakespeare was a trainee

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01:41:03.960 --> 01:41:05.119
<v Speaker 2>and how long the dong was?

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<v Speaker 3>It?

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01:41:06.680 --> 01:41:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Is that retarded. I am not exaggerating. I am not exaggerating.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not exaggerating. I'm telling you it's that retarded.

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01:41:11.560 --> 01:41:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I was there. That's what academia is. Okay, Now you

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01:41:19.960 --> 01:41:22.159
<v Speaker 2>said when I wait a minute, Jay, this sounds like

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01:41:22.199 --> 01:41:25.119
<v Speaker 2>you're saying you're an obscurantist. Science doesn't exist. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>Real science doesn't happen in those areas. Real science happens

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<v Speaker 2>in engineering, Real science happens in computer science. Real science

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01:41:33.880 --> 01:41:37.840
<v Speaker 2>happens in disciplines that actually have to apply the theory

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<v Speaker 2>to the real world. It doesn't happen in biology class

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01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:46.039
<v Speaker 2>or astronomy class. Okay, those are propaganda classes. But people

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<v Speaker 2>that do engineering, they do real hard science absolutely all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. And that's who develops things. That's why Lockheed Martin,

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01:41:53.680 --> 01:41:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Raytheon and Boeing don't call up Richard Dawkins. They don't

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01:41:57.079 --> 01:42:04.319
<v Speaker 2>call up JF to figure out how to advance their technology. No,

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01:42:04.439 --> 01:42:07.720
<v Speaker 2>they call it people from engineering. Okay, I'm not saying

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01:42:07.720 --> 01:42:09.800
<v Speaker 2>that Jeff's not smart guy. I'm not dissing Jeff. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just making the point that biology, life sciences, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Cent unless you're working in like biometrics and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not advancing the cause of so called applied science

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<v Speaker 2>generally speaking, generally speaking, Okay, and again I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>this is true for every single biologist. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 2>that this is the way the system works in terms

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01:42:32.600 --> 01:42:37.199
<v Speaker 2>of academia. Of sure, plenty of biologists, plant of palaeontologists.

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01:42:37.239 --> 01:42:39.119
<v Speaker 2>They go when they study things and they make discoveries.

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<v Speaker 2>And again we already talked about this in the beginning.

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01:42:42.079 --> 01:42:45.600
<v Speaker 2>You can make discoveries and be correct about things within

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01:42:45.840 --> 01:42:50.000
<v Speaker 2>your niche and still have the wrong paradigm. Your whole

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01:42:50.279 --> 01:42:53.479
<v Speaker 2>worldview can be wrong and you still make discoveries. The

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01:42:53.600 --> 01:42:56.479
<v Speaker 2>fact that you make correct discoveries does not prove that

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01:42:56.640 --> 01:43:01.319
<v Speaker 2>your whole world view of paradigm is correct. And that's true.

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01:43:02.720 --> 01:43:05.199
<v Speaker 2>I think would say that's self evident. It's obviously true

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01:43:05.399 --> 01:43:08.239
<v Speaker 2>because even the atheists again will admit that there are

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01:43:08.279 --> 01:43:11.760
<v Speaker 2>plenty of theists in mathematics, plenty of theists and engineering

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01:43:12.199 --> 01:43:15.159
<v Speaker 2>who make discoveries and advances, and they believe that those

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01:43:15.199 --> 01:43:17.920
<v Speaker 2>people are wrong in their paradigms of theism, and yet

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01:43:17.960 --> 01:43:22.000
<v Speaker 2>they still make advances. Likewise, atheists can make advances, Atheists

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01:43:22.000 --> 01:43:26.199
<v Speaker 2>can make discoveries. Sure, absolutely, that does not prove their paradigm.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we got a couple of super chats here before

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<v Speaker 2>I continue going on, Alex Parker or Alex Parror, you

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01:43:43.359 --> 01:43:45.680
<v Speaker 2>make me want to be a better man. Well good, hopefully,

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<v Speaker 2>that's uh, that's what we're here to promote. Not in

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01:43:50.720 --> 01:43:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the Masonic sense, right, Freemasonry says they make good men better.

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01:43:54.119 --> 01:43:56.479
<v Speaker 2>That's not what we're here to do. We want to

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01:43:56.560 --> 01:44:00.520
<v Speaker 2>make men into gods. Okay, so theosis is what we're

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01:44:00.560 --> 01:44:06.239
<v Speaker 2>talking about here, not some gay free Masonic thing. But

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<v Speaker 2>thank you Alex Justin Stan ten dollars, thank you for

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01:44:09.079 --> 01:44:11.439
<v Speaker 2>going through the explanation of salvations of the Jews. Obviously

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01:44:11.439 --> 01:44:13.640
<v Speaker 2>it isn't from the Jews themselves, but what was given

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01:44:13.680 --> 01:44:15.199
<v Speaker 2>to them from God. Now, of course, I mean, I

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01:44:15.239 --> 01:44:18.640
<v Speaker 2>don't think anybody was trying to say that there's some

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01:44:18.760 --> 01:44:23.039
<v Speaker 2>sort of mystical power to Judaism itself or to the

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01:44:23.560 --> 01:44:26.960
<v Speaker 2>biology or DNA. And this is sort of the mysticism

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01:44:27.159 --> 01:44:32.079
<v Speaker 2>of later Talmudism that says that, and the prophets of

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01:44:32.119 --> 01:44:37.640
<v Speaker 2>course rebuked that that idea many times over. David seeing

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01:44:37.720 --> 01:44:40.000
<v Speaker 2>five dollars Fantils Apologetic you mentioned can you link it?

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01:44:40.479 --> 01:44:45.720
<v Speaker 2>It's called Vantil's Apologetic by Greg Bnson. Not the most

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01:44:45.760 --> 01:44:50.520
<v Speaker 2>successful book though. This is a difficult text. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to be easy reading unless you have

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty a fairly unless you're fairly fluent in philosophy,

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01:45:01.359 --> 01:45:02.760
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to be able to read the book.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not trying to be mean, but I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it's a very long, very technical book. There's other easier

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01:45:09.600 --> 01:45:14.359
<v Speaker 2>books that could be could be accessible. Boonnson has a

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<v Speaker 2>what's his Let me find his other book real quick here.

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01:45:22.520 --> 01:45:31.319
<v Speaker 2>That's more accessible. Actually, the guy who Jason doctor Lyle,

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01:45:32.239 --> 01:45:36.840
<v Speaker 2>who I do think is pretty good. Actually, he has

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01:45:36.880 --> 01:45:41.640
<v Speaker 2>a really good introduction to this. So if you want

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<v Speaker 2>an easy introduction, you know, unless you have like a

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01:45:44.520 --> 01:45:48.680
<v Speaker 2>master's degree in philosophy, you're not gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 2>read Mental's Apologetic. I'm gonna put it right here real quick,

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<v Speaker 2>underneath the PDF of the Lancets. So there's one Bonson book.

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<v Speaker 2>I will add Vntil's Apologetic here, but you're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to read it unless you are advanced

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<v Speaker 2>in philosophy. You're going to find it very difficult. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying you can't do it. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>do it, go for it. Let's see what's that. What's

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<v Speaker 2>that Jason Lyle book?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's ultimate proof for creation is that it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got an introduction to to trance no arguments, that's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good. I think it's this one. So i'll put

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<v Speaker 2>it down below. Okay, so all those books, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>have been added there to the to the link in

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<v Speaker 2>the description. And yeah they're Protestants, so they get some

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<v Speaker 2>things wrong. But for an orthodox approach to presubsitionalism, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to add this book as well by Father Shuping

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<v Speaker 2>which is called Iran Aus and Orthodox apologetic methodology where

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<v Speaker 2>we can correct the errors of Calvinists via this book.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn it, here we go.