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Jade Ires Days Nells, J Dier's Days Analysis. US It's

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Jay Dier, Jason Alison, J Diers Day Smells, Jade Diers

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Today's Analysis, Jay Dires Days Analysis, Jay Diers Days Analysis.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome, welcome, welcome. You're listening to Jay Dyer.

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Let's make sure we have good audio. Can everybody hear me?

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Can you hear me?

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Speaker 3: Can you hear me? M hmm?

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Speaker 2: Are we having all right? Yep? Good, I can be her.

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There we go. Yes, we're going to talk to true

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dil Tom. For one hundred times, I've had endless requests,

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So yeah, we'll talk to him. And I messaged him

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today and he said, yeah, we'll do it. We'll do

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a talk.

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Speaker 4: Oh, oh, philosophy. Oh these questions anyway, So I thought,

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in the wake of.

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Speaker 2: The many recent discussions and debates, it would be pertinent

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to have a stream that dealt with objections and questions

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because naturally debates they just lead to a whole lot

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of questioning, which is a good thing. That's a good thing.

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So the topics today we're going to specifically stick trying

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to stick to you know, philosophy, metaphysics, the branches of

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philosophy and defending them. But we're not just going to

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stay I mean, if you want to ask theological questions,

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that's fine, because anytime I talk about philosophy, everybody comes

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in they want to talk about theology. Anytime I talk

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about theology, everybody comes in they want to talk about

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conspiracy and some other topics. So you know, I understand

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they're not disconnected, but please let's stay on the topic roughly,

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and let's talk first about this issue of cucks into

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the shadows. What are you talking about, Matt, by the way, Yeah,

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if somebody wants to come on and debate, Matt, do

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you want to come on in debate since you're calling

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me a cuck, I tried to give the debate platform

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openly today we had open debate day at Jays Analysis. Yeah.

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I don't really care what ask Yourself did in terms

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of his video Ask Yourself as a childish guy. He

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needs to grow up a lot of bit a lot

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before we have any more interactions. I'm not interested in

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any more interactions with that guy. That's low IQ Spurg

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level stuff. So I'm not gonna waste my time debating

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twenty year olds. Although if this mac character wants to

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come on, he's if he calls me a couck, he

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can come on debate if he wants to. Nobody ever

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wants to come on debate. Oh he said, I'm a cook,

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cuts himself into the shadows. No, I just waited for

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him to hang himself, and when he did, I left

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the debate, and you can read everybody in the comments

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at Primal Edge Health. They got the point. Everybody in

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the comments center my copy of the debate at my

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channel got the point, and everybody saw how silly what

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he was saying was. So he and his cult can

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do whatever they want, but I'm done with him. Stefan

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MALINEU will never debate because, as we point that out

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many times, a big name person has nothing to gain

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from debating lesser known people. They have everything to lose.

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Should they lose the debate, it would look really bad

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for them. So why would they There's no incentive for

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a Molineux or a Peterson or anybody of that stature,

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of that caliber in terms of popularity to debate somebody

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with you know, ten or one hundred times smaller audience.

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So no, they're never going to debate. Now, maybe if

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I got a million followers one day, which probably won't

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ever happen, but if that ever did happen, maybe then

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they might debate. But I doubt it because it's a

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it's a much safer territory to stay in, you know,

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acceptable modernist discourse. And you'll notice that none of the

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people allowed into the big scale discussion ever step outside

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of the classical liberal framework. Nobody outside of the classical

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liberal dialectic is even allowed into the debate or the discussion.

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So I mean even the alt right, who many of

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whom are basically still within the liberal framework, they're not

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even allowed into the into the discussion. I mean JF

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is still within the liberal framework in terms of his worldview,

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aside from some sort of you know, race view in IQVUW.

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and they're not really allowed into the mainstream discourse. Molineux

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maybe to a degree because of the size of his audience,

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but he's only he's only allowed to do that because

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he's still champions the market god, and we're going to

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see that when you when you abandon philosophy with other

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things step into to take the place of the god

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of the system. We're also going to see that people

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have a system, whether they want it or not, whether

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they believe in systems or not. They have a system.

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a paradigm. When I speak of the liberal paradigm, I

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don't just mean empiricism. We decided a debate yesterday with

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an atheistic materialist on this very question. When I speak

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of liberalism, I'm talking about the classical liberal paradigm, and yes,

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empiricism is part of that tradition. The Enlightenment gives birth

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to the classical liberal paradigm. Renaissance humanism gives birth to it,

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to it. Then comes right this Enlightenment so called, which

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is not a turn towards science strictly speaking. People that

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have actually delved deeply into the history of the Enlightenment

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know that it comes out of hermeticism. They know that

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it comes out of hermetic, neoplatonic, esoteric, Rosicrucian secret societies

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and orders. You can read Dame Francis Yates book Rosicrucian Enlightenment,

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which proves that beyond any shadow of a doubt. Now

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I know that I've known that since undergrad because I

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was studying all the secret societies at the same time

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as I was taking on my Enlightenment classes. It's not

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hard to figure that out. But who has read Dame

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Francis Yates book Rosicrucian Enlightenment. Not many people, even though

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it's a very famous book. Anyway, So when I talk

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about the liberal tradition, I don't mean modern American liberalism.

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I don't just mean empiricism. I mean the entire tradition

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of the Enlightenment, because it is a move towards liberalism. Now,

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some of those people would not necessarily be called quote liberal,

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because maybe, like Hobbes, they believed in a giant Leviathan

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monolithic state. Right, Hegel is a statist, so uh, you

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know Hegel's philosophy of the right. That's not liberal. However,

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all of these figures after the Enlightenment come out of

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revolutionary traditions, except for you know, here and there, every

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now and then, there's a there's a gem in the

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midst of the the Maelstrom. Here the confusion that critiques it, right,

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you get you get writings about monarchy, you get writings

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against liberalism, you know, in the West, even after the revolutions.

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So again our stance here is not that science is bad,

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all right. We believe that science has its place. And

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in fact, you know, as Happa argues right and his

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points about democracy, the God that failed, we're always told

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this mantra of this, which is actually a revolutionary propaganda slogan,

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that the Middle Ages was the Dark Ages, monarchy represents

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dark Ages, and only because we have republican democracies do

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we have advancement and progress. And in fact Hoppa makes

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I think, very good consistent arguments that we could actually

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probably have been far more advanced had we not adopted

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the entire revolutionary ethos in the West. And of course,

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as you know, we've covered in countless articles, countless talks,

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and even in my book, the fact that the entire

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world has been infected with revolutionary thought. All of the

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revolutions are the same, as Aldus Huxley says, they all

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have the same point, they're all directed by the same people,

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and they're all taking man towards technocracy. That's why the

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entire world is under the spell of democracy. That's why

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Hoppa is correct to call it a god that has failed.

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it actually achieved its very purpose. The revolutions were there

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to bulldoze all of the previous paradigms and to set

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up the moneyed oligarchy that we have now today that

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runs the world. If you don't understand this, then you

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don't know what you're talking about, and don't try to

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debate me. Go listen to my Tragy and Hope talks.

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Because we know that the twentieth century represents the rise

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of the Fiat banking power to rule the world. Now

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we're living in the mopping up stages, and the goal

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was always to bring into technocracy anyway, So when I

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talk about liberalism, that's what I'm talking about. I'm talking

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about rejecting the ideology of the last several hundred years

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of the West. I'm not talking about rejecting science, not

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talking about rejecting scientific discoveries. Because as we've talked about

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many times, paradigms can be wrong. People can have erroneous,

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faulty paradigms or belief systems and make correct discoveries that

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can make correct advancements. And even atheists who don't agree

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with me have to admit this because they all know

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that there are theists who make advances in science and technology.

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Of course they do right, but they think those theists

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are wrong and have the wrong paradigm. Yet they are

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still able to make advances. Yeah, and that's because people

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aren't always as consistent as they should be. Right, People

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are better than their belief systems and paradigms most of

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the time, Thank god, Right, because if everybody was completely consistent,

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we would have chaos in terms of the atheistic materialistic

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world views I'm saying. Anyway, so we want to talk

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about the fact that, again, this is something that has

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been missed. I've noticed some patterns in the last few

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discussions and debates and talks that people are missing and

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they're missing issues that relate to what they think are semantics,

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what they think are are games, or like talking around

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a problem or trying to like doe, what did he do?

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What did that one guy say? The kids said, you're

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being shady, right when you talk about the fact that

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logic presupposes that you should follow through you know, the

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to the conclusion through a syllogism, to the conclusion that

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you should right, that there's some binding imperative force behind logic.

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That's being shady. You're being shady. No, I mean, this

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is just retarded. Okay, so, oh god, here we go.

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Science in terms of the scientific principle is a new development.

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It is a creature of the Enlightenment. Previously, there were

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ways to seek truth, but they weren't science. This is

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just retarded and in fact, the ancient Greeks practice science,

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many of the Christian theologians of the Middle Aged practice science.

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So you really have no idea what you're talking about, Vodka.

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You are just repeating, essentially the propaganda of the Enlightenment, right,

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I mean, look at how many inventions and discoveries come

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out of the Middle Ages with something that you're not taught,

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of course, in the modern university. So I actually think

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I'm go'n just delete this guy, because we're not here

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to have like basic bitch level debates here. The scientific

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method is not new to the Enlightenment period. The scientific

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method as a means by which this is the only

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way to have reliable knowledge is new to the to

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the period of the Enlightenment, that's true, but countless people

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back to the ancient world utilized the principles of the

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scientific method. Aristotle, you can go back to the ancient Greeks.

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Aristotle was a scientist. Aristotle practiced the scientific method right now.

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So again, my grad work in part was in terms

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of science, a philosophy of science. So the questions that

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philosophy of science asks are different than the questions that

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normative science involves itself with. And the problem is that

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most people who study science and hard sciences don't know philosophies,

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that they don't know what's being said or what's being asked.

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When people as bring these kinds of questions to bear,

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they think that it's semantics, they think that it's word games,

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and it's not asking basic questions about metaphysics, about ethics

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and about epistemology. Is just classic philosophy. And because scientism

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especially has a problem and has actually presuppositions and an

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agenda behind the rejecting of these branches of philosophy and

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ultimately philosophy itself. As Neil deGrasse Tyson says, philosophy is

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essentially worthless. It's no longer needed anymore now that we

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have science. I mean, this is so laughable and so

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absurd that and by the way, he was actually law.

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He was actually made fun of Mike not a few

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philosophers when he made that statement. It's really just speaks

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from ignorance, I mean extreme ignorance. Because you can the

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idea that you can master, say, some branch of hard sciences,

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and that therefore this gives you some pre eminent insight

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into all of reality is itself a fraudulent, stupid assumption. Right, So,

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for example, a lot of biologists will assume, right, JF

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does this. He assumes that because he studied biology at

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a gradual level, that therefore this is some sort of

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all encompassing paradigm answer to everything. Right, we can approach

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grand mythological narratives from the questions of the life sciences

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and biology. But of course that just assumes that biology

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we know that? Can we demonstrate that? Now every atheist,

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rational scientific materialists, blah blah blah, reduction. They claim to

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claim to be the guardians of reason and science over

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against superstition. However, when we begin to start asking questions

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about what logic is, how logic functions in the world,

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we are immediately met with nothing but derision and the

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accusation that those are essentially stupid questions, the relics of

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an old age. But of course they're not, and that's

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because modern scientism has no answer to these questions. And

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that's why we're here today to defend traditional philosophy metaphysics.

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So again, so let's talk about Okay, so we got

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to the questions are coming in quicker than I can,

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then I can respond if I if I no, this

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is same simply not true. I mean, you obviously haven't

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read Aristotle vodka. If you've read Aristol, you know that

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he proceeds from an empirical scientific method. That's why he's

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the father of taxonomy. He's the father of all of

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these branches of science that involve empirical investigation. So, in fact,

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all of the Enlightenment thinkers who talked about returning to

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the scientific method were part of the classicist tradition. They

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were part of the Renaissance tradition that wants it to

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go back to the Greeks and specifically the empirical approach

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to science that Aristotle embodied. So you haven't read Aristotle,

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at a time when everyone disagreed with him. No, that's

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simply not true. In fact, many of the Church fathers

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were influenced by Aristotle, So you don't know what you're

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talking about. Aristotl had an entire school, right Lysium that

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he taught. So the idea that this is only Aristotle,

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I think it's about time to delete this dude. I've

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had enough of his retardation. So you're out here, So

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we're not gonna deal with that. He thinks Aristol was

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the one guy, And here's Aerostol has a tremendous influence

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on the history of the Church. Again, how many times

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have we recommended Saint John Damascus's Fount of Knowledge, which

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has a lot of good things to say about Aristotle.

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That does not mean they were Aristilians. Again, mistake. All right,

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let's get in first to the question of the theological

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question that was asked earlier about Saint John christystem, which

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was that how is it that Jesus says to the

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Serophenician woman in Marks that it's not proper to give

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to the dogs what is for the children. So now

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there's two errors that people make that I've seen over

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the years in my The Gentile Woman that Believes, and

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this is Mark seven twenty four through thirty. Now, the

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two errors that people make on this is that, on

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the one hand, there's the Christian so called Zionist heresy,

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which usually is tied of course to dispensationalism. And they

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think that there's like these plans that went into effect

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and changed when man failed, right, so like there was

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a dispensation to Noah, and then when man failed, God

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instituted a new plan. And what that does is essentially

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divides up and destroys the continuity of the scriptures, destroys

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the fact that there's one church from Able all the

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way to the New Testament. We are all members of

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the same at church. Right, Abraham is a saint in

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our church. Moses is a saint in our church. Okay,

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this is crucial to understanding the continuity of the Old

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and New Testament. They are members of the body of Christ.

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They're pictured in the Apocalypse as worshiping alongside the saints

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of the New Testament. So they were not saved in

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a different way. They were not saved by keeping the

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law or any of the nonsense that many of these

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stupid evangelical secx believe. They were saved by their faith

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in Christ. Paul reiterates this point many times in the

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New Testament Romans Foor, Galatians three. So they didn't have

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a different pathway to God. There's never been a different

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pathway to God. It's always through faith in either the

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coming Messiah looking forward to him, or faith in the

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Messiah who has come us. Now in the Church era,

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they're not saved in a different way. There was no

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way to keep the law. But even in the period

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that we're talking about, when God established the nation of Israel,

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there were still converts. We read about converts in the Exodus.

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There were people who in Egypt who had converted to

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the worship of the True God. When Ezra went out

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and established the synagogue system, we read about the converts.

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There were converts to the worship of the True God

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of Israel, mentioned even in the Book of Acts. And

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there was the dispersion, that is, the Jews that were

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outside of Israel, that had been set up in other

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cities where they again they had synagogues, and there were

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many converts in those cities. So the Judaism of this

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period accepted converts. In fact, Abraham was a convert, the

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founder of so called Judaism, well in the sense of

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the nation of Israel, right, Abraham was himself a convert

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out of paganism. Now a lot of people get confused

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with this, and then they think that so what happens

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is that in the New Testament Jesus came, and because

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these verses said that he came first to his own

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to the Jews, then there must have been some sort

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of new dispensation that was invented. This is what the

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Christian Zionist heretics say. There was a new dispensation that

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came about after the Jews rejected Christ, and then it

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went to the Gentiles. This is so stupid that it's

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almost unfathomable that anyone believes it. For one, how many

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times the New Testament, the latter chapters of Romans right.

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Psalms and the major and minor prophets that I've covered

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in my talks about the Gentiles converting. So if the

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prophet's prophesied the Gentiles converting, that was always the plan.

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It wasn't an accident, it wasn't planned. B according to

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these idiot evangelicals. No, the Gentile Church was always the plan,

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because it's the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham that

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in his seed all of the nations would be into

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the worship of the True God. His seed is Jesus.

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Jesus is the fulfillment of all of the covenants of

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the past, every one of the covenants again from Adam

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to Noah to Moses, or to Abraham to Moses to David,

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they all are foreshadowing Jesus, the awaiting prophet, priest and

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king to come, who fulfills all these predictions and in

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his death ground resurrection, which is an amazing mystery that

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God worked. In terms of his providence, God it foreknew

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that the Jews would reject him. In fact, it was

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predicted that the Jews would reject him all throughout their prophets.

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They rejected him, and so the salvation that they thought

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they were destroying went to the nations. And this is

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how the promises are fulfilled. It's a no brainer, really,

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I mean this is again, nobody ever taught any of

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this dispensational Judaized nonsense in the history of the Church.

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That's why it's promoted by the royals, the Rothchilds and Oxford,

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who printed the Schofield Study Bible that popularized it prior

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to the established right, prior to the Balfour Declaration. By

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the way, no accident there now. So on the one hand,

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we have the Judaized error, which believes that there's some

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and some guy was messaging me yesterday saying that I

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don't accept Orthodoxy because you don't keep all the Jewish

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feasts and fasts, and I was like, I'm like, well,

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have you read Galatians in Hebrews? And he's like, yes,

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I have, But Paul's wrong, And so I go to

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the guy's profile and his profile is all a bunch

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of Masonic stuff. So yeah, exactly, that's why we ended

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up blocking that guy. But yeah, so on the one hand,

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there is the error of trying to think that salvation

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can be had through the keeping of the ceremonies of

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the law. And again, this was the chief battle of

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the first century Church. This is the chief battle of

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the Book of Acts. Is this question. They have to

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have a council in Acts fifteen to settle this question.

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What does the council in Acts fifteen say. Well, basically,

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it looks back to the noah Hyde laws, to the

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laws of Noah. It says, essentially, in reaffirming the covenant

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with Noah, that the Church, under the direction of the

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Holy Spirit, the apostles, in the direction of Christ and

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the Holy Spirit, make a decision, that make a determination

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in a synod, in a snudal decree, that it is

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not necessary for gentiles to keep the ceremonial laws of

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Moses and to receive circumcision, because again, there are plenty

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of righteous men prior to the giving of the ceremonial law,

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and therefore ceremonial law cannot be necessary to be saved.

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accounted righteous prior to ceremonial laws being given, prior to

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the establishment of national Israel prior to the giving of circumcision.

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Circumcision it was a sign and seal for in it's

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into the national Covenant of Israel of that time, and

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it was proper and good at that time. But it

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was a type that looked forward, looked forward to fulfillment

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in baptism, which is something easily that can easily accessible,

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water that can be given to everybody, not just young males. Now,

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part of the reason that there was circumcision too was

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because of the transmission of ancestral sin. Right, ancestral sin

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comes from all the children of Adam, because of Adam's fall,

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So there was also that aspect to it as well.

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Circumcision was supposed to signify at tearing away of the

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old Man, as Paul says, as Jeremiah says. Even in

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the Old Testament, Jeremiah says that circumcisions signified repentance and

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rending of the heart. Circumcise your hearts, Jeremiah says, that

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was the whole point of it, looking forward to baptism.

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So now that the Messiah has come, now that Christ's

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instituted as Church, the New Testament essentially settles all of

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these disputes. Again, you don't even have to go to

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church father's you have to go outside of the New

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Testament to see all of these disputes settled. So let's

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go to the let's look at the other opposite error,

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which is kind of being popularized by some blogs sort

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of selectively takes certain church fathers out of context, and

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it says, oh, Judaism basically stopped existing at some undefined

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point and there were no Jews. Jews do not exist

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in the New Testament. This is an invention. This is

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nonsense too, all right. And so this kind of a

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perspective goes to the opposite extreme and doesn't understand and

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it borders basically on a kind of Martianism. Doesn't understand

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the importance of the place of the Old Testament, of

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the conus to the Old Testament, of the law, and

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even the ceremonies in preparation for the coming of Christ.

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And so Jesus when he talks to the woman at

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the well and John four is very clear, and what

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he says to her is base. This is this is interesting,

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it's it's a it's a great exemplary test case because

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what happens is the woman at the well and she's

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a Samaritan.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Now, Samaritans were schismatics. That goes that go back to

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the time of the split of the Northern and Southern

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Kingdom of Israel and Judah Rea Boem and Jereboam right,

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and we have basically Jeroboam's setting up his own state

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controlled pagan sex cult religion. This is the origin of Samaritanism.

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So the Samaritans had this kind of schismatic idea that

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they had come up with, that that the temple is

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not where you worship God. You know what does she say?

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It says, oh, it's Jacob's well. You know, we worship

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at Jacob's well or something. Now, what does Jesus say?

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Does Jesus say nothing in the Old Testament matters. I

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came to destroy all that. No, no, no, no, he

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doesn't say that. Does he say there were no Jews,

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Jews didn't exist. That is an invention of Talmwood Epharises. No, no, no,

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he doesn't say that. He says woman, He says, you

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know not what you worship. He says you are a Samaritan.

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So Jesus doesn't wipe away all the religious distinctions. He

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essentially affirms you are a heretic. All right, you are

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a schismatic. You do think that you're worshiping the true God,

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but you do only you do not know what you worship. Okay,

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so she was in error, she was in schism. Jesus then,

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of course, demonstrates that he has omniscience by talking about

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her many husbands or lovers because she's not married. And

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the woman is then of course convicted. She says, oh,

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I perceive that you're a prophet, and she right. She

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had tried to steer the conversation into religious controversy, and

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Jesus brings it back to the question of moral problem.

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He's like, no, your issue is moral. It's not an

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issue of abstract theological questions. You have a moral issue.

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So then Jesus goes on to say that truly, I

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say to you that the time is coming, and now

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is when the worshipers of God will worship God in

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spirit and in truth, not just on not just in

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the temple, but in all places. So, in other words,

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the worship of God is not going to be restricted

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to the Temple, which it previously had been, which was

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by God's design on purpose. It is then to extend

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into all of the nations in the Church. But the

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key point to remember here is that Jesus is stressing

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that salvation is of the Jews. There was no salvation

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in any other place. You could not find the true

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worship of God in some other nation. Now, before the

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establishment of the Nation of Israel, it's possible plausible that

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there were in some way priests like Melchizedic or people

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like Job right who were righteous men outside of the

470
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Nation of Israel, who had in some way maintained the

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true tradition from able right. So this is mo most

472
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likely how and why Job or jeth Row or Melchizedek,

473
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who are not levitical priests, still had knowledge of and

474
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:17,639
understanding of Him, belief of in the One True God right,

475
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and presumably also belief in a coming Messiah. In fact,

476
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Job predicts Christ. There are multiple Messianic prophecies in the

477
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Book of Job, and Job was not written by Jew.

478
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It's written by gentile. So Job himself, by the way,

479
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that shows us that there were true gentile believers even

480
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in the Old Testament. So now let's look at this

481
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passage then, when Jesus says to the Seraphenician woman that

482
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gentiles are dogs, He is not making this up out

483
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,079
of nowhere. He is reaffirming what is in the Old Testament.

484
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Right now, a lot of people who take this opposite view,

485
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:09,440
they think that it's somehow wrong to talk about the

486
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fact that the Old Testament, particularly the Psalms, right in

487
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,880
many places. It's not just a Talmudic invention that the

488
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,079
Law and the prophets and the Psalms speak of the

489
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nations in this way. They do because they were that way,

490
00:41:25,159 --> 00:41:28,480
they were dogs, because they acted that way. Right, they

491
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:32,679
were into some seriously degenerate stuff. And yes, it eventually

492
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infected Israel too, and it Israel fell into the worship

493
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,440
of serious degenerate stuff. So it's not like I mean,

494
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:41,199
this is the point is that both of these things

495
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,079
are true. It's not either or right. There were periods

496
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when Israel was faithful to God in some instances, and

497
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when that was the case, God would subdue their enemies.

498
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And David can write Psalms talking about in the nations

499
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being heathens, being degenerate and deserving of divine justice. Right,

500
00:42:02,559 --> 00:42:04,159
how many times does David say this in the Psalm?

501
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,639
How many times the prophets say that multiple times? Yet

502
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at the same time It's also true that the same

503
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,639
accusations are turned back on Israel itself. When Israel starts

504
00:42:15,639 --> 00:42:18,639
to act like the nations, the prophets say, you are

505
00:42:18,679 --> 00:42:23,000
a whore. Israel is Sodom, Israel is Gomorrah. Okay, So

506
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,320
these things can all be true at the same time.

507
00:42:25,519 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 3: Okay.

508
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,119
Speaker 2: So Jesus is being consistent when he affirms the fact

509
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:37,639
that it was true that the nations were doglike and heathen.

510
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:42,599
The gift of the covenant was not given to all nations.

511
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,440
It was given only to the nation of Israel. I'm

512
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,760
speaking after Abraham, of course, right. So that is the norm,

513
00:42:50,039 --> 00:42:54,039
and that is true, and that is correct. Paul does

514
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not say that Moses was not a legitimate covenant from God.

515
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,440
Is Jesus who made the covenant with Moses. This is crucial,

516
00:43:01,559 --> 00:43:04,800
and every Orthodox person makes this very apologetic argument. So

517
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,760
they even the people who don't understand this already agree

518
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,440
with me. When they look at the burning bush and

519
00:43:10,519 --> 00:43:13,639
they say, that's Jesus speaking in the burning bush. Jesus says,

520
00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:16,239
I am that I am multiple signs in John seven,

521
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,239
Jesus says, I am that I am. I am right.

522
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,639
So it's Jesus in the Burning Bush, and it's Jesus

523
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,079
making the covenant with Moses. Again, it's not that difficult

524
00:43:26,119 --> 00:43:30,199
when you understand basic continuity between the Old and New Testament. Now,

525
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,119
when we understand that, we see then that it is

526
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in fact true. Just think of Israel as the Church

527
00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:41,960
of the Old Covenant, and so just as in the

528
00:43:42,039 --> 00:43:45,639
New Covenant, the Church can pray and precatory prayers and

529
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,239
pray against her enemies, which she does and has for

530
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,400
two thousand years. So likewise, did they do the same

531
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thing in the Church of Israel in the Old Testament?

532
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,920
It was no different. Now there are differences in the

533
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,079
sense of uh modus operandi, Like you know, we don't

534
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,559
principally try to go to war against Canaanites, although at

535
00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:10,840
times the Church, well I should say Orthodox nations and

536
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,559
kings have gone to war. Everybody knows this basic church history, right. So,

537
00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:19,840
even though there's there's a shift in emphasis between the

538
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:27,039
Old Testament period focusing on a more external battle related

539
00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:30,079
scenario of the conquest of Cana et cetera, that was

540
00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:33,280
a type, Paul says. The conquest of cana was a

541
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:38,239
type of the Church conquering the world. Paul makes this

542
00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:42,320
this analogy very clear in the New Testament. So the

543
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,440
typology of Cana's land is a is the is the

544
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,159
spiritual is fulfilled in the spiritual approach of the Church

545
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,320
going out and conquering the nations to the preaching of

546
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,199
the Gospel, essentially pulling down the demons that the nations worship.

547
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,559
That's the true battle, the true conquest of Canaan, that

548
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,320
is happening now in our very day, in the last

549
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two thousand years. Does that mean that in the Old

550
00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:10,400
Testament there were no demons? No, of course not. Demons

551
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,239
are mentioned multiple times in the Old Testament. Does that

552
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mean the Old Testament wasn't spiritual?

553
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 1: No?

554
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: Right, Think about how many times prophets see into the

555
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,159
spiritual realm and they see chariots fighting with the armies

556
00:45:21,199 --> 00:45:24,639
of Israel. They see into Isaiah sees into heaven and

557
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:31,880
he sees, you know, in Isaiah six he sees he

558
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,280
sees God. In fact, and by the way, John says

559
00:45:36,679 --> 00:45:39,519
in his Gospel that when Isaiah looked into heaven, he

560
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:48,079
saw Christ by the way. So anyway, when we understand that,

561
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we understand that Jesus's mission it was appropriate. Paula firms

562
00:45:55,679 --> 00:45:57,920
us too, by the way that in Realm, as he

563
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,440
says that to the Jews were given the Covenant, they

564
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,039
were given the Law, they were given the promises fought,

565
00:46:03,079 --> 00:46:05,800
they were given the fathers, et cetera, et cetera. So

566
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,480
naturally Jesus had to come to the Jews first, who

567
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were his people, and salvation was offered first to the

568
00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:15,719
jew Right. This is why pulse is to the jew

569
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,400
first and then to the gentile. This is why in

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00:46:18,519 --> 00:46:22,519
the Book of Acts the apostles go and preach the

571
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Gospel first to the Jews. Salvation is offered first to

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the Jews. And what happens, well, many many accept it,

573
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,199
many also reject it. Right, and so we think of

574
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the section and Acts where Paul says, since you reject it,

575
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we now go to the Gentiles. And if you read

576
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:41,079
through the Book of Actual see that you know it's

577
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:45,239
the Holy Spirit essentially directing this process. Okay, So, for example,

578
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,679
at one point, the Spirit forbids the church to spread

579
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,559
the Gospel into an area of Asia. We don't know why,

580
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,679
we're not told why the Spirit forbade the Gospel going

581
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,360
into that region, We don't know. Apparently it would be

582
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,800
some other time right, that's the counsels of God. We

583
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don't fully understand all the counsels of God, but what

584
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:12,119
we do have in Revelation is a lot of information about,

585
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you know, the kinds of things that I'm saying. We

586
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,239
do have information about how to make sense of these texts.

587
00:47:18,039 --> 00:47:21,039
Jesus not being inconsistent when he says that this woman

588
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is a gentile, and she is, and that was important

589
00:47:24,559 --> 00:47:28,519
for in the history of redemption. That was important for

590
00:47:28,679 --> 00:47:34,360
that phase in history. Now that the Church has been established, right,

591
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,639
and by the way, Jesus grants the woman's wish, So

592
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even though she was a gentile, even though she did

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have this affiliation with pagan culture, Jesus still grants her

594
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her supplication. And in fact, multiple times in the Gospels

595
00:47:50,519 --> 00:47:55,320
Jesus preaches to gentiles, he preaches to schismatics, right, And

596
00:47:56,079 --> 00:48:00,360
this is the story of the Good Samaritan, right. And

597
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,719
that's because, as many of the church fathers point out,

598
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the Gospel examples of like the Roman Centurion and so

599
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,400
forth believing in Christ. These are prefigurations of the fact

600
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that the gentiles will enlarge accept the message of the Gospel,

601
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,960
and many, many of the Jews will not and as

602
00:48:20,039 --> 00:48:23,960
a nation, the Jewish nation falls under God's judgment precisely

603
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:29,840
because they reject their Messiah. So, long story short, both

604
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,800
of those positions are incorrect. There's the extreme of thinking

605
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,199
that I don't know where they get this, this idea

606
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,440
that the word jew was not in the Bible. It

607
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:44,760
was invented by Talmudic persons, like hundreds of years after

608
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,760
the coming of Christ. It's very retarded. If you read

609
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:56,199
Zechariah eight, there's a prediction that thus says the Lord Almighty,

610
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,920
in those days, ten men from all the nations around

611
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,239
excuse me, ten men from all the tongues of the

612
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,280
nations will stop you and ask you, and grab a

613
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,760
hold of you, and they will say to a Jewish man,

614
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,960
we will go with you, for we have heard God

615
00:49:13,079 --> 00:49:17,800
is with you. Well, this is Pentecost. This is what

616
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,719
happens on Pentegost. This is what happens when Jesus sends

617
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:25,320
the Jewish apostles out into the world. Right many, many,

618
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,360
many nations cling on to these apostles and they say,

619
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we have heard God is with you. Tell us about

620
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your God. This is a prediction of Pentecost and the

621
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apostles and the New Testament, and they were all Jews. Okay.

622
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,079
And by the way, Zachariah Ate is using the word Jew.

623
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So jew is not a post New Testament Talmudic invention.

624
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:56,400
It's completely retarded. All Right, we went, I've already gone

625
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,199
fifty minutes on just that one question. So hopefully that

626
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:04,519
is illustrative people can benefit from that. But beyond that,

627
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I'm not really seeing what action Jackson or whatever that

628
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,119
dude's name was, I don't really see the problem and

629
00:50:11,199 --> 00:50:15,679
what he asked. I think he was tripped up by

630
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the fact that Jesus affirmed that gentiles were dogs. Well,

631
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,199
this is in the Psalms, right, this is in the prophets,

632
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,000
and it's not because they weren't humans, because they acted

633
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:30,760
like dogs. And so, by the way, this is important.

634
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,639
For example, this is something a lot of people misunderstand.

635
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:36,159
I had a debate one time on the street with

636
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a Hasidic Jew who started a conversation with me. Interestingly,

637
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he started talking about the Old Testament. I think he

638
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:47,880
thought I was Jewish. I don't know, but he was like,

639
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,360
are you a Jew? And I was like, well in

640
00:50:50,519 --> 00:50:53,559
the true sense, yeah, He's like what. So we got

641
00:50:53,639 --> 00:50:55,840
in this debate and he said, he said, his view

642
00:50:56,159 --> 00:51:00,599
was that the law didn't apply to Tiles, it was

643
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only for Israel. And I was like, well, okay, the

644
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,280
law giving him Mount Sinai was for Israel. But God

645
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,920
still held nations accountable for their sins. In other words,

646
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for example, if you read Joshua, the reason that God

647
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,519
sends Joshua into Canaan's land for the conquest is because

648
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of the wickedness of those nations. That means they're held

649
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,239
accountable for their wickedness. How many times in the prophets

650
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,880
do the prophets talk about the nations being wicked violating

651
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,719
God's law? Well, what law were they violating? If they

652
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,920
weren't under God's law, they were under the law moral law,

653
00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:38,920
what laws were they violating? When Nebec Andeser, you know,

654
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,920
was arrogant and prideful and blasphemed the God of the Jews,

655
00:51:44,039 --> 00:51:48,719
the true God, Well he gets struck with madness and

656
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,559
acts like a damn fool out in the wood for

657
00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:55,519
seven years like an animal. So he offended some kind

658
00:51:55,519 --> 00:52:01,400
of moral law. Right, So, and it wasn't by the way,

659
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,079
it's not just no hide laws. Okay. So the noea

660
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:09,119
covenant was a covenant and it wasn't an effect. And again,

661
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,800
if you understand Acts fifteen, they are referring back to

662
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,639
the Noa Noah Hyde laws in Acts fifteen. That's what

663
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,719
the first Council of the Church in Acts fifteen in

664
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:25,360
Jerusalem looked back to to determine the normative statues for

665
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,440
receiving gentiles into the predominantly Jewish Church of that time. Right,

666
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:34,679
Jewish converts to Christianity, the entire early Church is Jewish. Okay,

667
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,559
the whole thing. It's founded by Jews, predominantly Jews. Right,

668
00:52:38,599 --> 00:52:42,800
the first ten chapters of Acts and this if you

669
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,639
read Acts ten, right when we get to the story

670
00:52:44,679 --> 00:52:50,679
of Cornelius, this is why Peter is so confused. Peter

671
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,400
has such a hard time with this question because of

672
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:58,480
his grounding in, you know, the Jewish law and prophets.

673
00:52:58,519 --> 00:53:01,840
So he's very confused. And in fact, Peter's so confused

674
00:53:03,039 --> 00:53:08,199
that it actually requires visions directly from God. Right, he

675
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,400
sees the vision of the sheet with the unclean animals.

676
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,239
And again in the Old Testament, unclean animals represented the

677
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unclean nations, the gentiles and demons. If you doubt the

678
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,719
favorites that represent demons read at Isaiah thirty four, where

679
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,920
Lilith is mentioned and other demons are pictured in Isaiah

680
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,559
thirty four under the imagery of unclean birds, storks, owls,

681
00:53:31,639 --> 00:53:34,760
et cetera. It even mentions satyrs there by the way,

682
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:39,199
goat demons. So that was even present in the Old Testament. Anyway,

683
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:46,440
where were we we were talking about Cornelius. So the

684
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:49,880
sheet comes down right in Peter's vision and it's got

685
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,639
unclean animals in it, and God says eat. Peter says, no,

686
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:56,599
By the way, that's not a vegan command, is it.

687
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,039
The biblical God is not vegan. By the way, Peter says, no,

688
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:03,360
I can't eat those, those are unclean. So this vision

689
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,000
happens three times, and God says, what I've called clean,

690
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:11,280
don't call unclean. So that's what it took for Peter

691
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,000
to finally be convinced. And even after that, Peter was

692
00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:17,360
still had doubts because Paul had to get in Peter's

693
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,480
face over it. Remember this is mentioned in the beginning

694
00:54:20,519 --> 00:54:23,480
of Galatians. Paul and Peter have a big falling out

695
00:54:23,559 --> 00:54:26,960
over it because Peter still keeps falling back into the

696
00:54:27,039 --> 00:54:33,239
temptations of thinking that Gentiles are not fully inheritors of

697
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:38,360
the promises with Jews, but they are. However, for the

698
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,360
period of the Old Covenant, it was true that there

699
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:46,159
was supposed to be a separation. For example, the Temple

700
00:54:46,199 --> 00:54:49,480
itself worship itself during the Old Covenant period did not

701
00:54:49,639 --> 00:54:53,599
allow gentiles into the Temple. You could come to as

702
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a worshiper of the true out of Israel to the

703
00:54:55,400 --> 00:55:00,960
outer portico that was allowed for converts. All right, this

704
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:04,519
is gentiles who had converted to the God of Israel.

705
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,119
But you couldn't go into the temple. Now who set

706
00:55:09,199 --> 00:55:12,599
that up? God did? Okay, So this wasn't something that

707
00:55:12,679 --> 00:55:15,880
Moses made up. It wasn't something that the evil God

708
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,239
of the Old Testament made up. It was put into

709
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,920
place for a time period until, as Hebrews said, the

710
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,960
time of Reformation came. What's the time of Reformation? The

711
00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:27,119
New Covenant, the New Covenant is not something that just

712
00:55:27,199 --> 00:55:30,920
happens when Jesus dies. The New Covenant is established from

713
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,199
the entire period of the first century, from the incarnation

714
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,599
birth of Christ all the way up to the destruction

715
00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:39,559
of the Temple in seventy eighty. That is the establishment

716
00:55:39,639 --> 00:55:42,440
of the New Covenant. That whole period and all of

717
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:47,159
the events of that period are crucial to fulfilling all

718
00:55:47,199 --> 00:55:53,039
of these Old Testament prophecies and ushering in the last days.

719
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,599
This is also important because consistently in the Old Testament,

720
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,280
for example, the prophecy of Joel says that the last

721
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,400
days are instituted when Pentecost happens. Right, Joel's not talking

722
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:06,880
about the end of the world. It might have a

723
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,400
reference to the end of the world, but Joel says

724
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,760
that the last days begin when the spirit is poured

725
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:17,320
out on all flesh. Peter says, Joel was talking about Pentecost.

726
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,519
Pentecost happened in Acts two. Okay, can you read? Can

727
00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:24,119
you make the connection between the fact that Peter in

728
00:56:24,199 --> 00:56:27,519
Acts two is quoting Joel. Joel is not talking about

729
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:30,920
some garbage on TBN what John Hagy says. Joel's talking

730
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:35,880
about Pentecost, which happens in Acts two. By the way,

731
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:42,320
that refutes basically the entirety of dispensationalism. So the spirit

732
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,840
being poured out on all flesh equally also shows that

733
00:56:46,199 --> 00:56:50,000
there's no longer the distinction in the ritual ceremonial sense

734
00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:54,519
that was necessarily important for the Old Testament period. Now, okay,

735
00:56:54,599 --> 00:56:57,920
it's no longer important. Now there's no longer June or

736
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,639
Greek slave, nor free male nor female. By the way,

737
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,159
Paul's not a transgender advocate. Paul's not saying that that

738
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,079
means there's no such thing as Jews and Greeks anymore. No,

739
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,159
of course, they still exist, and it's only the idiot

740
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,880
retards that quote that verse to try to prove stupid

741
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,719
egalitarian presuppositions. That verse has nothing to do with that.

742
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,920
Paul elsewhere says slaves submit to your masters, women submit

743
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:26,079
to your husbands. Right, Jews and Greeks are still Jews

744
00:57:26,199 --> 00:57:29,599
and Greeks. They don't erase all their heritage. This is

745
00:57:29,679 --> 00:57:33,639
all the liberal presupposition, the modernist presupposition that tries to

746
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:38,760
wrest Christianity from its historical contexts and lie and take

747
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:49,280
verses out of context. Paul is saying that salvation comes

748
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,440
to all people of any status in life. Paul is

749
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,199
not saying that Christianity is a revolutionary force to overthrow

750
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,840
structures and governments and to set up some trainy egalitarian

751
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,519
global homo world system as these idiots try to make it.

752
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,639
Nobody could honestly read the rest of the New Testament

753
00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:12,519
and actually think that. So it's only lying, deceiving people

754
00:58:13,719 --> 00:58:16,039
who take those verses out to try to prove that

755
00:58:17,159 --> 00:58:25,719
they don't know what they're talking about. So anyway, Paul,

756
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,960
even in Romans ninth or eleven, seems to also uphold

757
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,480
the fact that Jews will continue to even be Jews

758
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:36,719
until the time of their conversion, right. And I do

759
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,360
think many of the fathers, by the way, I just

760
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,360
found a whole bunch more verses where the Fathers actually

761
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,360
back this up. Cereal of Alexandria, by the way, it

762
00:58:44,519 --> 00:58:47,719
appears to have been very convinced that many of these

763
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,719
texts predict a future conversion of the Jews. The Orthodox

764
00:58:51,719 --> 00:58:54,199
Study Bible in fact mentions this in many places. I

765
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,000
think that that's true. I think Romans eleven just very

766
00:58:57,079 --> 00:58:59,800
clearly is making again, as I pointed out many times,

767
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,880
the claim that eventually Jews will convert. I don't know

768
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,960
when that is. We don't know when that is, but

769
00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:09,840
I think that that's the obvious meaning of what Paul's saying. Now,

770
00:59:10,039 --> 00:59:12,400
do I think that necessarily has anything to do with

771
00:59:12,519 --> 00:59:14,760
the founding of the state of Israel. No, I do not.

772
00:59:15,679 --> 00:59:18,199
I don't see where that necessarily fits into any of this.

773
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,719
I'm going by what's in revelation. I'm not interested in reading,

774
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,400
you know, headlines into scripture. That's what how lindsay and John, Hey,

775
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,280
you know all those retards do. We don't do that.

776
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,239
We don't read news headlines into the Bible. We don't

777
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,000
look at the fact that, you know, the anti Christ is,

778
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,760
you know, mentioned in a bunch of movies and then

779
00:59:40,199 --> 00:59:42,000
try to read that into the Bible and say we're

780
00:59:42,039 --> 00:59:45,400
in the last days the I mean people, somebody with

781
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,400
somebody was making that comment on one of my videos.

782
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,760
They were like, you have a mental illness because you

783
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,199
think that these Hollywood movies are saying that the Antichrist

784
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,760
is coming. No, if you've listened to what I said,

785
00:59:56,599 --> 00:59:58,320
you know that I actually make fun of that. I

786
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,360
make fun of the the argument like the Croleians had,

787
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,320
that that you could invoke the Antichrist by doing a

788
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,599
bunch of rituals, and that John's Book of Revelation is

789
01:00:08,639 --> 01:00:11,159
a gnostic ritual text. I talk about how stupid that is.

790
01:00:11,679 --> 01:00:14,079
And the only reason Crowley thought that was because he was,

791
01:00:14,159 --> 01:00:17,559
guess what, raised in a retarded dispensationalist sect. The Plymouth

792
01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:22,199
Brethren is where dispensationalism comes from. Did you know that? Yep,

793
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,320
John Nelson Darby all right, Plymouth Brethren. Oh, they also

794
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,440
happened to produce Aleister Crowley. So the only only reason

795
01:00:30,599 --> 01:00:33,840
Crowley and his stupidity and ignorance, thought that he could

796
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,320
turn the Book of Revelation into a magical text for

797
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:40,440
invoking the Antichrist and bringing it into fruition and having

798
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,199
sex with the horror Babylon and all this nonsense. John's

799
01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:48,360
not talking about Crowley, dude. So I constantly talk about

800
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,480
how stupid this is. Uh So the guy who assumed

801
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,719
that I was like reading movies and headlines into the

802
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,320
Bible had no idea what I was talking about. So anyway,

803
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,679
let's keep in mind too that in Mark seven, before

804
01:01:03,719 --> 01:01:15,639
I end on this topic, Jesus says that Jesus rebukes

805
01:01:15,639 --> 01:01:20,719
the scribes and the Pharisees. So it's in the context

806
01:01:21,519 --> 01:01:23,519
of this. The story of calling the woman a dog

807
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,639
is in the context of of rebuking the scribes and

808
01:01:28,679 --> 01:01:33,199
the Pharisees. Now that's important because it shows us that

809
01:01:34,159 --> 01:01:38,360
Jesus there's not a there's not like a catchphrase by

810
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,920
which we can, you know, lift these verses out of context. Right,

811
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,639
Like a lot of times, like a Baptist will try

812
01:01:43,679 --> 01:01:46,480
to say something like, you will leave the traditions of

813
01:01:46,599 --> 01:01:49,079
men in your Orthodox church. You follow the traditions of men.

814
01:01:49,199 --> 01:01:53,280
Jesus said to the Pharisees, don't follow the traditions of men. Well,

815
01:01:54,159 --> 01:01:56,800
he also in other places does say follow the traditions.

816
01:01:57,679 --> 01:02:01,960
So right, this is a different question. Right, The question

817
01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:04,840
of whether there's an oral tradition is a different question

818
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,239
from whether or not there's the traditions of men. Now,

819
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,760
the scribes and the Pharisees had invented and put into

820
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:12,800
place a bunch of traditions of men, which, if you

821
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,679
listen to the Jeremiah lectures, Jeremiah talked about. Jeremiah said

822
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,519
in his day that the scribes and Pharisees had done

823
01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:21,639
this and it was a problem, and that they were

824
01:02:22,719 --> 01:02:27,679
circumventing the law itself. Jesus reaffirms Jeremiah, and in fact,

825
01:02:27,719 --> 01:02:30,960
there are whole chapters in Jeremiah that mirror the ministry

826
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,880
of Jesus. We've pointed that out in the Jeremiah talk,

827
01:02:35,519 --> 01:02:39,440
which shows continuity, by the way, but The reason I

828
01:02:39,519 --> 01:02:42,199
bring that up is because Jesus can, at the on

829
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,639
the one hand, talk about the hypocrisy of the scribes

830
01:02:45,679 --> 01:02:48,039
and Pharisees and the fact that they had invented traditions

831
01:02:48,119 --> 01:02:50,360
of men, and at the same time in Matthew twenty

832
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,800
three he says, the scribes and the Pharisees sit in

833
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,320
the seat of Moses. Therefore do as they say, but

834
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,880
not as they do because they're hypocrites. But they were

835
01:03:01,239 --> 01:03:04,960
the established religious authority. Notice he does not mention the

836
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,880
Sadducees why, because they were the liberals. They were not

837
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:13,000
the established authority. There was a hierarchical established authority and

838
01:03:13,159 --> 01:03:19,239
it was the scribal Pharisaic system that Ezra set up.

839
01:03:19,679 --> 01:03:23,480
Ezra set up the synagogue system. Moses talked about the

840
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:26,119
need for a synagogue system. Ezra then set it up

841
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:32,400
later on. There's no such thing in the Old Testament

842
01:03:32,519 --> 01:03:35,800
as a seat of Moses, right, There's no moses dolic

843
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:40,760
succession mentioned. However, Jesus says that this is true. They

844
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,760
do sit in the seat of Moses. They are the

845
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:49,079
legitimate authoritative expounders, expositors and judges of the law. Yes,

846
01:03:49,159 --> 01:03:53,199
they're hypocrites. However, they still retain a position of authority.

847
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,760
Jesus says that they are much more liable to condemnation

848
01:03:58,039 --> 01:04:01,159
than the rest of the people that role of authority,

849
01:04:02,119 --> 01:04:03,800
and we see this in the Old Testament as well. Right,

850
01:04:04,119 --> 01:04:07,440
God judges David or the rulers, or the kings or

851
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:11,039
the heads of things far more severely than he judges

852
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:19,639
the normal the normies. I mean, he judged at him

853
01:04:19,639 --> 01:04:22,280
pretty severely, because Adam was the head of the human race.

854
01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:27,119
How severely does God judge David pretty severely?

855
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: Right?

856
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:32,559
Speaker 2: When David? What happens to the offspring that David has

857
01:04:32,599 --> 01:04:38,519
with Bathsheba? Yeah, exactly. So, in the same way, we

858
01:04:38,599 --> 01:04:44,440
have to understand that there is at the same time

859
01:04:44,559 --> 01:04:48,800
traditions of men as there is legitimate oral tradition. Right,

860
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,440
both of those things are true. Jesus can rebuke the

861
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,159
Pharisees and call them hypocrites while at the same time

862
01:04:55,239 --> 01:05:02,960
recognizing that they have a legitimate authority. So it's that simple. Really,

863
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,719
I'll read a couple of super chaps before we move

864
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:12,000
back to philosophy, because I kind of went for an

865
01:05:12,039 --> 01:05:14,880
hour on that one theology question, and really, really what

866
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:22,599
we were coming to talk about was the philosophy. That's okay,

867
01:05:22,679 --> 01:05:25,079
you know, we want to go with whatever anybody's interested in.

868
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,639
That's what we'll talk about. I did say we could

869
01:05:27,679 --> 01:05:31,239
talk theology today. So we're taking challenges and questions today.

870
01:05:31,719 --> 01:05:34,800
The first question Evan Schultz, thank you for that. You've

871
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:35,199
been killing it.

872
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: Jay.

873
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:39,639
Speaker 2: I found a challenging discussion. I found it challenge discussing

874
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:44,840
Orthodoxy with women as they find it sexist. Any tips, well,

875
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,119
I mean, modern women are of course bathed in the

876
01:05:48,199 --> 01:05:53,519
idea that patriarchy or religions that have only male authorities

877
01:05:53,559 --> 01:05:55,559
and priests are sexist. There's not much you can do

878
01:05:55,599 --> 01:05:58,719
about it, because you know, Jesus set it up. So

879
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:04,719
their problem ultimately is with Jesus. Too bad. I mean,

880
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:09,199
I wouldn't worry if people I mean, in other words,

881
01:06:09,239 --> 01:06:11,800
you can't water down these facts to like, you know,

882
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:17,679
appease some some feminists. I wouldn't worry about it, just

883
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,519
move on. My tip would be to move on to

884
01:06:20,599 --> 01:06:24,599
somebody else. By the way, this is why you have

885
01:06:24,679 --> 01:06:27,800
to watch out for feminists, is because people like Angela

886
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:33,800
Dahl Carlson, who hopes and praise for women's ordination to

887
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,880
the priesthood. These people want to change the church, right

888
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,159
this mirriam Usuf woman, all right, she's blogging about all

889
01:06:40,199 --> 01:06:45,199
this of this microaggressions and social justice warriors. These people

890
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:49,000
want to change the church. Sorry, but you don't have

891
01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:52,239
the right to do that. And you're working from a

892
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,639
spirit of wickedness. What does what does scriptures say that

893
01:06:56,079 --> 01:06:59,480
the spirit of rebellion is like the spirit of rebellion

894
01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:04,960
is like witchcraft. The sin of rebellion is as the

895
01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:12,440
sin of witchcraft. So get out of here, witches. Any

896
01:07:12,519 --> 01:07:18,360
significance to old baptism being for men only, that is

897
01:07:18,519 --> 01:07:21,159
not true. I don't know what you mean old baptism.

898
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:26,360
You mean circumcision. If you mean circumcision, then yes, as

899
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,960
I pointed out, circumcisions signified ancestral sin. On the one hand,

900
01:07:31,039 --> 01:07:39,400
the sense of the transition, the transmission of ancestral sin

901
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,320
through all the descendants of Adam, and that transmission has

902
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:49,000
had through the male member. It's the semen that creates

903
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,280
a new human being. That doesn't mean that women didn't

904
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:56,960
have ancestral sin. All human beings did. But the transmission

905
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:03,039
occurs through the sexual copulation act from one generation to

906
01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:06,199
the next, and By the way, that doesn't mean that

907
01:08:06,239 --> 01:08:10,280
ancestral sin is a thing, a substance that somehow meant

908
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:18,439
that humans were tainted. Corruption and sin are not things

909
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:22,800
that are They're not things. As the fathers say, evil

910
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,520
is only located in the turn of the will away

911
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:30,199
from the good. However, all of Adam's descendants have these

912
01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:33,920
same propensities because they have his fallen nature. When we

913
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,319
talk about fallen or corupted nature, we don't mean that

914
01:08:36,399 --> 01:08:39,000
the nature itself is inherently evil. This is the error

915
01:08:39,079 --> 01:08:43,800
of Manicheans, of Calvinists, Lutherans, and Protestants. Many times they

916
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:47,000
conceive of original sin as somehow being something connected to

917
01:08:47,319 --> 01:08:51,359
man's nature itself, which is to then give sin substance

918
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,439
or being or ontological existence, which is the Manichean heresy.

919
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,439
Sin does not have ontological being or existence. It's not

920
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,960
a thing. It's a move of the will away from

921
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:10,840
the good. So baptism, so the significance of circumcision was

922
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:14,119
only to be a type of baptism. And what it

923
01:09:14,199 --> 01:09:16,479
was supposed to teach, as we said, according to Jeremiah,

924
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,319
was to throw off the foreskin of your hearts. In

925
01:09:20,359 --> 01:09:23,880
other words, you have hard hearts you need to cut

926
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:29,439
away the outer hard heartedness that you have, right, and

927
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:31,760
the reason that you have this is because you are

928
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:38,000
a son of Adam. That's wine, dan Mann. What do

929
01:09:38,119 --> 01:09:40,640
you think are the problems with praxeology? Go listen to

930
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:44,119
the debates with Robert Taylor. We had multiple debates one

931
01:09:44,239 --> 01:09:49,039
to three debates with Robert Taylor on theism and capitalism,

932
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:52,920
and the problems are all outlined there. It's a retarded

933
01:09:54,039 --> 01:09:59,279
system based in Marxism and anarchism, based on the idea

934
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:04,239
of calculating human actions as if you're some sort of computer.

935
01:10:04,399 --> 01:10:12,800
It's a completely autistic, retarded thing. Yeah, and all three

936
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,439
of the debates with Robert Taylor, pre eminent proponent of praxeology,

937
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:21,880
shows how retarded it is. Paul Albert, thank you fifty dollars.

938
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,680
Thank you for all you do. Jake up the good work. Well,

939
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,399
thank you, Paul. Thank you for supporting my work.

940
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 3: And I will.

941
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,279
Speaker 2: Continue to put this stuff out as long as we

942
01:10:30,359 --> 01:10:34,920
have support and the freedom to talk about these things.

943
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,760
Robert Taylor not the same Robert Taylor. By the way,

944
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:43,279
what's a good elevator pitch for orthodoxy for Protestants and Catholics?

945
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,520
My wife and I get a lot of what is orthodoxy.

946
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:48,920
I wouldn't try to do quick elevator pitches. I was

947
01:10:49,039 --> 01:10:53,359
just just send people the documentary on the Icon, which

948
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:57,680
is a popular YouTube documentary. I think it's it's like

949
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,680
three hours. But if the person's not willing to invest

950
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:05,359
three hours in the documentary, then they're not that interested anyway.

951
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,319
And so anybody who is willing to invest three three

952
01:11:08,399 --> 01:11:11,800
hours in the Icon documentary, I would say is worth

953
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:16,319
talking to. So that Icon documentary is really good. Jim

954
01:11:16,359 --> 01:11:21,000
Strange five dollars, best apologetics on YouTube, Thank you, Jay, Well,

955
01:11:21,039 --> 01:11:26,039
thank you Jim. There's not a lot of apologetics going

956
01:11:26,079 --> 01:11:28,760
on on YouTube, really, I mean, that's that good, So

957
01:11:29,079 --> 01:11:31,760
thank you. In other words, I don't think it's necessarily

958
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:33,439
that I'm that good, but there's not a lot of

959
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,079
apologetics out there anyway. That's any good, right, I mean,

960
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:41,920
all these Protestant presubpositionalists, they're terrible, good grief. They give

961
01:11:42,399 --> 01:11:46,079
transcendental arguments a bad name, by the way. So so

962
01:11:46,239 --> 01:11:50,000
thank you there, Jim Strange. Randy Churchill twenty dollars, Thank you, Randy.

963
01:11:50,039 --> 01:11:53,039
Appreciate that. White Top two dollars, thank you, White top.

964
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,000
All right, excellent, to really appreciate you guys. All right,

965
01:11:57,159 --> 01:11:59,159
we do want to get to some philosophy here. I

966
01:11:59,199 --> 01:12:03,720
don't want to mind or everyone in the theological minutia,

967
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:09,880
although it was important. Again, people are confused over two extremes.

968
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:15,560
On the one hand of judaizing heresy of the Evangelicals,

969
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,359
and then they go to the other extreme of some

970
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:22,159
sort of weird gnostic thing where Marcianism type thing where

971
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,359
like the idea of jew with some later invention, and

972
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,199
I don't know, people don't know what they're talking about.

973
01:12:28,199 --> 01:12:30,079
That's because they don't know the Bible. That's the problem

974
01:12:30,119 --> 01:12:32,920
here is that people are not actually familiar with what's

975
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:37,680
in scripture. So they read these blogs and these websites

976
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,079
and these they come up with these weird views. And

977
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:43,039
trust me, I know, I've spent twenty years wandering through

978
01:12:43,159 --> 01:12:45,399
all of these different views, you know. I mean I

979
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:49,119
went from being a Baptist that grew up Baptists into

980
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:54,560
reading the Church Father's Church history, right, Calvinism, and then Catholicism.

981
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,720
And this is before I even knew about Orthodoxy. Right,

982
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,760
So Orthodoxy is kind of a hidden thing in America.

983
01:13:00,159 --> 01:13:02,960
You really have to seek it out. Uh, and Orthodoxy

984
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,159
doesn't have It's not like all there's no more problems, right,

985
01:13:05,199 --> 01:13:06,920
I mean, any church, any place you go, there's gonna

986
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:13,479
be problems. But I find the Orthodoxy, historically speaking, traditional

987
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,640
Orthodox theology really has the answers to to all of

988
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:23,520
these these difficulties, you know. So okay, we're gonna get

989
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,359
to the philosophy now, defense of traditional philosophy and metaphysics.

990
01:13:26,359 --> 01:13:28,439
I'm gonna recommend a bunch of good books and essays

991
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,880
here because I think we probably will have a lot

992
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:38,600
of inquirers or challengers or people curious in regard to atheism,

993
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,640
in regard to evolution, in regard to scientism, in regard

994
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:48,960
to to anti metaphysical, deontologist, deconstructionist type views. So we

995
01:13:49,039 --> 01:13:55,520
want to get to all that. Okay, So he did,

996
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,439
and he did mean circumcision as old baptism. Yeah, okay,

997
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,359
that's a good way to put it. Uh. You could

998
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:06,319
look at Israel is old church. Circumcision is old baptism. Yeah,

999
01:14:06,359 --> 01:14:08,279
it's a good way to put it. So we're gonna

1000
01:14:08,279 --> 01:14:10,239
play the song real quick, just because I need to

1001
01:14:10,279 --> 01:14:14,119
pour more coffee. And after an entire pot of coffee,

1002
01:14:14,119 --> 01:14:18,600
I gotta have some I gotta have some some pee

1003
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:23,039
pee time. I gotta go whizz, gotta drain the lizard.

1004
01:14:23,199 --> 01:14:57,359
Speaker 3: As the kids say, it's Jay di.

1005
01:14:57,479 --> 01:16:42,319
Speaker 1: Er, Jason Allison, jay Iyer's day smells it, Jay Dier's

1006
01:16:42,319 --> 01:17:18,079
to Day's analysis, Jay diers Day's analysis.

1007
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:52,159
Speaker 2: Alright, so let's remind ourselves that the two branches, the

1008
01:17:52,239 --> 01:18:00,800
three branches of philosophy are ethics, metaphysics, and epistemology. This

1009
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:05,640
is traditionally, historically how it's been divided up. Divisions in

1010
01:18:06,039 --> 01:18:11,399
topics does not mean that they are necessarily divided in reality.

1011
01:18:12,079 --> 01:18:14,960
This is a problem that the vegans were falling into,

1012
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:20,520
which is really kind of a basic philosophical error, the

1013
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,479
idea that because you can speak of something distinct, that

1014
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:27,520
they are in fact distinct in reality. I don't believe that.

1015
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,199
I don't think so. I think that if you've read

1016
01:18:30,239 --> 01:18:38,680
my essay on the fact that epistemology, for example, presupposes

1017
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:44,119
ethics and metaphysics, and vice versa, ethics presupposes metaphysics and epistemology,

1018
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,560
then you know that the school of thought that I

1019
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:50,680
come from, the worldview that I promote sees all those

1020
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,479
things as integrally connected. Now, how do we know that?

1021
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:55,960
How do we show that? Well, I wrote a whole

1022
01:18:56,079 --> 01:18:58,159
essay on it which everybody can go read. Then want

1023
01:18:58,239 --> 01:19:02,039
to see the fuller treatment of it. But quite simply,

1024
01:19:02,159 --> 01:19:04,840
it should be obvious that these things are connected. For example,

1025
01:19:05,319 --> 01:19:09,960
if I make a claim to know that, for example,

1026
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:15,640
I know that it is wrong to kill someone, Okay,

1027
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,520
that is, or if I believe that it's wrong to

1028
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:24,560
kill someone, or I think that it is ethically it's

1029
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:28,520
a violation of ethics to kill someone. That assumes that

1030
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:32,159
I have some knowledge right that it's wrong to do that.

1031
01:19:33,279 --> 01:19:35,560
When we talk about killing someone, we're talking about actions

1032
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:39,760
that take place in the external world. That immediately involves metaphysics. So,

1033
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:43,439
in other words, generally speaking, unless I believe that everything

1034
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:48,439
in my mind is a projection of some phantasm, or

1035
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:53,560
if everything is a syllipsistic sort of surrealist world in

1036
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:57,039
my mind, then I assume that the people are are

1037
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,560
other entities, right, they're beings other than me. Unless I

1038
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:06,159
believe in Maya or I believe in surrealism, those are

1039
01:20:06,279 --> 01:20:10,159
other people who have dignity and rights. Correct, And so,

1040
01:20:10,279 --> 01:20:12,600
in other words, immediately you begin to see when you

1041
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:16,760
ask just a few questions about the assumptions that go

1042
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:20,720
into talking about any ethical question or dilemma, you start

1043
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:26,119
to realize that they don't operate apart from other branches

1044
01:20:26,159 --> 01:20:30,119
of philosophy or other questions of philosophy. When I say

1045
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:36,079
I believe it's wrong to kill, that assumes that I'm

1046
01:20:36,199 --> 01:20:39,399
a subject, that I'm a person, That I'm a being

1047
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:44,520
who can choose, who wills this or that, who can

1048
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,680
commit actions in a world, in an external world that

1049
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:53,159
affects other beings. Again, unless I adopt some view that

1050
01:20:53,359 --> 01:20:56,000
you know, all of reality is just a simulation of

1051
01:20:56,079 --> 01:20:59,640
my mind, or something right, some bizarre for our Eastern view,

1052
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:04,239
or something thing. You know, we tend to operate on

1053
01:21:04,399 --> 01:21:08,680
the basis of the assumptions of Western or Christian metaphysics

1054
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:13,520
and philosophy. Even having divorced our worldviews from the theology

1055
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,359
a long time ago, we still act like beings out

1056
01:21:16,399 --> 01:21:18,640
there in the world are separate beings that have some

1057
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,199
sort of choice or dignity. Even though we might construct

1058
01:21:22,279 --> 01:21:27,680
physical metaphysical systems or anti metaphysical systems where those beings

1059
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:31,359
have no rights, we still in practice continue to operate

1060
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,279
like they are right. I mean, nobody consistently lives out

1061
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:41,840
a completely will to power, you know, predatory social Darwinian worldview,

1062
01:21:42,239 --> 01:21:44,600
unless you're like, you know, the top globalists or something.

1063
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:48,880
Most people don't consistently day to day live that way.

1064
01:21:49,279 --> 01:21:49,399
Speaker 3: Right.

1065
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 2: They act as if it's wrong for people to steal

1066
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,720
their money, to cheat them. Right, it's not wrong, you know,

1067
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:03,640
unless there's some force or truth behind ethical or metaphysical norms,

1068
01:22:04,199 --> 01:22:08,600
unless there's some kind of absolutist wrong and right, unless

1069
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:13,840
there's some sort of objectivity in regard to knowledge claims,

1070
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:18,359
truth claims, etcetera, etcetera. Right. So, when we understand that

1071
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:24,439
presubsitionalism is not a shady word game, but in fact

1072
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:29,680
a host of real philosophical questions that can be asked

1073
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:34,600
and should be asked, we start to see how many

1074
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,239
things we assume. And this is kind of a basic

1075
01:22:37,319 --> 01:22:39,840
point in philosophy. So the point I'm getting out with

1076
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:41,800
that is that when we look at the modern world,

1077
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,880
when we look at the anti philosophical stance of much

1078
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:50,279
of the modern world, why so many of the purveyors

1079
01:22:50,319 --> 01:22:54,000
of scientism actually just come out and say philosophy is worthless.

1080
01:22:54,239 --> 01:22:57,399
It's precisely because of this issue. It's precisely because when

1081
01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:00,840
we start to nail them on points, they have to

1082
01:23:01,319 --> 01:23:03,960
resort to the denial of philosophy. But no, wait a minute,

1083
01:23:04,079 --> 01:23:09,359
Logic is part of philosophy. It's absolutely part of philosophy.

1084
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:13,800
Nobody can deny this right, And so the denial of

1085
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,159
philosophy just sort of out of hand, like we see

1086
01:23:16,159 --> 01:23:19,239
with somebody like Neil deGrasse Tyson, is so absurd that

1087
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,520
it denies the very things that he claims to have

1088
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:29,680
full control of, like the scientific crowd, the scientistic crowd,

1089
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:34,119
they alone are the purveyors of reason and logic, and

1090
01:23:34,239 --> 01:23:38,479
yet they turn around and we'll talk about philosophy being worthless. Well,

1091
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:42,000
I'm sorry, but nobody can deny logic is a function

1092
01:23:42,159 --> 01:23:48,039
of philosophy. So it really amounts to endless, countless absurdities

1093
01:23:48,399 --> 01:23:53,000
when we start to ask very basic questions. And part

1094
01:23:53,039 --> 01:23:55,720
of this is due to the fact that people don't

1095
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,640
know philosophy. They have not studied it. They have not

1096
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,520
read Plato, they have not read They've not read any

1097
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,680
of these major figures. They've not read Hume. They don't

1098
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:08,840
know the major debates, major discourses, they don't know the

1099
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:13,039
course of ideas, in Western thought, how ideas lead to

1100
01:24:13,199 --> 01:24:16,119
other ideas, And yes they do if you don't know that.

1101
01:24:17,159 --> 01:24:20,039
They don't know any of this stuff, but they're more

1102
01:24:20,119 --> 01:24:24,279
than willing to get in your face, lose their shit,

1103
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:29,079
and become unhinged with a little bit of philosophy. Right,

1104
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,399
there's nothing more dangerous than a twenty two year old

1105
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:37,359
who's had a little bit of philosophy let loose on YouTube.

1106
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:41,000
This is like the worst thing in the world. And yes,

1107
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:47,880
we can all sympathize with this somewhat. I mean, I'm

1108
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,039
sure that at age twenty two when I was taking

1109
01:24:50,039 --> 01:24:56,279
my philosophy classes, I was completely insufferable, I'm sure, but

1110
01:24:56,399 --> 01:24:59,439
maybe not as bad as some of these guys, because

1111
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:08,760
I was already a pretty committed, grounded presuppositionalist and proponent

1112
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,520
of transcendental augmentation at age twenty two. I think I

1113
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:15,039
first came into contact with us about age twenty or

1114
01:25:15,119 --> 01:25:19,960
twenty one. Was my first exposure to that school of thought.

1115
01:25:20,039 --> 01:25:23,479
I read Van Til's Apologetic in Toto. I bought it

1116
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,119
right away, and I read all eight hundred pages right

1117
01:25:26,119 --> 01:25:28,279
away at about age twenty or twenty one, and that

1118
01:25:28,399 --> 01:25:34,239
was my introduction to transcendent augmentation and thought. And I

1119
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:38,600
was impressed. I was really taken with the force of

1120
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:42,680
the argumentation, the force of the logic, the power of

1121
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:48,600
the arguments. The basically, as Bonson once said, nuclear strength apologetics.

1122
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:55,119
You know, I think that's true. And that's because we

1123
01:25:55,279 --> 01:25:57,239
have to always we have to always make these qualifications

1124
01:25:57,279 --> 01:26:00,640
because people get get confused. It's not because those Kant

1125
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:04,319
was the greatest thinker. Okay. So people who don't know

1126
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:08,079
these this realm or this stuff, they hear this, these

1127
01:26:08,359 --> 01:26:10,520
terms and they mean, oh, you're talking about cont Okay,

1128
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,359
So Jay is a kantient. No no, no, no, no,

1129
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:16,399
I don't know. Now, transcendent arguments have a long, much

1130
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:20,640
longer heritage and pedigree than em manual Kant. As we

1131
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,399
pointed out, we see transcendent arguments in Ariostole in the

1132
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:27,000
Metaphysics against the Sophist. As we pointed out, in terms

1133
01:26:27,039 --> 01:26:29,600
of Orthodoxy, we see Saint John Damascus and his Fount

1134
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,399
of Knowledge use a transcendent argument at the very beginning,

1135
01:26:33,119 --> 01:26:38,760
echoing Ariostol. So transcendent arguments have had an interesting history.

1136
01:26:39,079 --> 01:26:42,880
They popped up here and there. We see inklings of

1137
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:46,439
it in certain apologetic approaches. I mean, the ontological argument

1138
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:48,880
is not a good argument, but it's a little more

1139
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:54,119
down the road of an a priori transcendental argument for

1140
01:26:54,239 --> 01:26:58,840
God than the so called classical arguments. So there's been

1141
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:03,840
some interesting inklings of it here and there. But and

1142
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:09,439
we might even look at the Descartes ontological argument. It's interesting,

1143
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:13,520
but it still is flawed. It's still not a full

1144
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:19,199
fledged transnit argument. Okay. So, but the reason we're talking

1145
01:27:19,199 --> 01:27:23,560
about this is just a stress that that, in my mind,

1146
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:28,800
philosophy has always been about asking questions. That's at least

1147
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:32,760
one big part of it, right, And the irony about

1148
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:39,319
modern scientism, which is so sort of shocking to me,

1149
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:43,520
like an ultimate level double think here, is that science

1150
01:27:44,359 --> 01:27:47,560
is grounded on the idea of asking questions, and yet

1151
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,960
they turn around and they will dogmatically tell you the

1152
01:27:51,079 --> 01:27:54,520
questions that you cannot ask. Okay, So what they essentially

1153
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:58,239
mean is you can only ask questions within the paradigm

1154
01:27:58,319 --> 01:28:01,439
or presuppositions of what I find and acceptable questions to be.

1155
01:28:02,119 --> 01:28:05,119
If you ask a question about the status of logic,

1156
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:09,520
if you ask a question about the nature of concepts,

1157
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,039
if you ask a question about how is it that

1158
01:28:13,199 --> 01:28:17,439
claims can be true over time. These kinds of philosophical questions,

1159
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:21,279
those are illegal questions, Those are retard questions. Those are

1160
01:28:21,279 --> 01:28:24,000
the questions that are not allowed in so called science.

1161
01:28:24,119 --> 01:28:27,359
Why is that, Well, because science investigates the natural world,

1162
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,840
we're told, Well, that just assumes that the questions that

1163
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,279
I'm asking have nothing to do with the natural world,

1164
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,119
and I think that they do. In other words, they

1165
01:28:36,159 --> 01:28:40,279
do not want any investigation of the scientific method itself

1166
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:44,520
in terms of how it functions via logic, and yes,

1167
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:48,439
the scientific method follows logical patterns and principles, whether they

1168
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,239
know it or not. They do not want questions revolving

1169
01:28:51,319 --> 01:28:56,279
around the ethicality of science. Generally speaking, they do not

1170
01:28:56,399 --> 01:29:00,399
want questions involving the metaphysics of science and scientific methodology

1171
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:02,560
and all of this you will learn when you take

1172
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:06,079
a philosophy of science class. You will be introduced to

1173
01:29:06,279 --> 01:29:10,239
a host of questions that are assumed in the philosophic

1174
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:16,800
method of science or in the natural sciences. Right now.

1175
01:29:17,079 --> 01:29:20,359
They also are never aware nine a nine point nine

1176
01:29:20,359 --> 01:29:24,600
percent of the time. They're not aware of powerful influences

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01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:29,359
in the history of science and the natural sciences scientific method.

1178
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,720
Royal Society. Right, I could count on my hand the

1179
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:36,319
number of times I've talked to academics or people from

1180
01:29:36,399 --> 01:29:38,079
that world. I know of three off the top of

1181
01:29:38,119 --> 01:29:42,079
my head who are very familiar with the power that,

1182
01:29:42,239 --> 01:29:47,119
for example, the Royal Society has had in influencing the

1183
01:29:47,239 --> 01:29:52,079
methodology of science throughout the world of academia. And this

1184
01:29:52,279 --> 01:29:56,640
is why, for example, we had the Lancet, or the

1185
01:29:57,199 --> 01:30:02,640
famous magazine Medical Journal of Oxford. A couple of years ago,

1186
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:07,039
the editor of the Lancet put out a startling admission

1187
01:30:07,319 --> 01:30:11,359
in the journal. It's still public, by the way, that

1188
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:17,439
half of the world's scientific peer review papers are fraudulent. Yes,

1189
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:21,239
you heard me right, Half of the world's scientific papers

1190
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:28,039
peer reviewed are fraudulent. Well that's pretty devastating to the

1191
01:30:28,079 --> 01:30:31,079
assumptions of scientistm isn't it. And yes, they will go

1192
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:34,359
ape shit when you mentioned this. But now, wait a minute.

1193
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:39,319
This comes from the top of the scientific establishment, doesn't it.

1194
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:45,359
Let's see if I can pull it up. Half of

1195
01:30:46,359 --> 01:30:54,520
scientific papers are frauds. Yeah, I think I've got it

1196
01:30:54,640 --> 01:31:00,600
right here. Now. The Lancet is, of course, the world's

1197
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:05,159
premiere science journal. And guess what you're gonna notice something

1198
01:31:05,199 --> 01:31:10,439
here in this little beautiful admission here, you're gonna see

1199
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:13,800
something to do with the Royal Society, aren't you. You're

1200
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,880
gonna see something to do with what's called Chatham House Rules.

1201
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:22,159
What Chatham House Rules? What would that have to do

1202
01:31:22,359 --> 01:31:25,000
with science? Well, it has nothing to do with science,

1203
01:31:25,039 --> 01:31:35,359
because science is a purely neutral framework, isn't it. And

1204
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,039
I will I'm gonna go ahead right now and put

1205
01:31:38,239 --> 01:31:41,720
the link to this because this is very important and

1206
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:45,920
not many people know about this. Now I talked about

1207
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:50,920
it endlessly. Notice there's your Chatham House Rules picture there.

1208
01:31:51,319 --> 01:31:53,039
You don't know what Chatham House is. You don't know

1209
01:31:53,039 --> 01:31:54,199
what you're talking about. You don't even need to be

1210
01:31:54,199 --> 01:32:00,640
trying to debate me. It's very difficult to get this paper,

1211
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:12,680
this journal here like to fit on this screen. The

1212
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:16,039
case against science is straightforward. Much of the scientific literature,

1213
01:32:16,159 --> 01:32:22,880
perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Now, by the way,

1214
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:29,159
there's countless studies and people have done countless test cases

1215
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:33,960
where they get gibberish published in peer review, where they

1216
01:32:34,359 --> 01:32:37,319
have papers written by AI that are that are nonsense

1217
01:32:37,399 --> 01:32:40,319
and get published in peer review. This there have been

1218
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:49,039
multiple examples of this. Let me add this while I'm

1219
01:32:49,079 --> 01:32:52,640
doing so here in the in the show description, I'm

1220
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:54,560
gonna have this just right now at the very top.

1221
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:59,199
This is from the Lancet uh And again I can't

1222
01:32:59,239 --> 01:33:02,239
fit the whole thing on the screen because it's like

1223
01:33:02,319 --> 01:33:04,640
a journal thing. And this is by the editor of

1224
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:08,720
the Lanses. So again one of the top medical journals,

1225
01:33:09,079 --> 01:33:16,880
most prestigious in the world, and the very beginning of

1226
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:18,880
it says a lot of what is published is incorrect.

1227
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,479
I'm not allowed to say who made this remark because

1228
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:25,840
we are asked to observe Chatham House rules. What is

1229
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:27,680
this doing in a scientific journal?

1230
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:28,039
Speaker 1: What?

1231
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:31,039
Speaker 2: I thought we had academic freedom to ask any questions

1232
01:33:31,079 --> 01:33:33,560
that we wanted. I thought I thought science told us

1233
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:37,199
how the world works. And yet here at this top

1234
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:45,319
prestigious academic medical scientific journal from Oxford, he's not allowed

1235
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:50,159
to say what's going on because of Chatham House rules. Well,

1236
01:33:50,239 --> 01:33:52,640
guess what, Jason Alysis knows what's going on because we've

1237
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:55,000
been telling you about it for years. I've been telling

1238
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,880
you about the Rural Society and it's scientific scammery and

1239
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:02,159
how they have promoted Darwinism for the last several centuries

1240
01:34:02,199 --> 01:34:06,760
by design, because they have a definite agenda and worldview,

1241
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,479
which is to dehumanize you and to kill you. They

1242
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:13,079
are all committed. That's Chathamhow's rules, right, don't tell the

1243
01:34:13,159 --> 01:34:17,000
truth to the slaves that are destined to be killed.

1244
01:34:19,279 --> 01:34:24,079
And again, who else has done tragian hope telling you this?

1245
01:34:24,199 --> 01:34:28,399
Who else has done? The same people that run the

1246
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:32,079
system in tragian hope, the Anglo American establishment, right, it's

1247
01:34:32,239 --> 01:34:34,119
the people at the top of the royal society. They're

1248
01:34:34,119 --> 01:34:36,159
the same people. It's the same groups, the role in

1249
01:34:36,199 --> 01:34:39,960
supernational affairs, the CFR right, the Rockefellers, they're roth Child's.

1250
01:34:40,039 --> 01:34:44,319
It's the same people. They write journals, their top journals

1251
01:34:44,399 --> 01:34:47,279
tell you science is fraudulent, and what do you do?

1252
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:50,920
You believe it because you believe in the fallacy of authority.

1253
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:56,039
So much for logic. Now, I'm not saying this means

1254
01:34:56,079 --> 01:34:58,720
that all science is false, of course, not that would

1255
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:03,119
be retarded saying this means that scientists don't make discoveries.

1256
01:35:04,039 --> 01:35:09,039
I'm saying it's very naive to assume that you know

1257
01:35:09,159 --> 01:35:11,520
how science works. By the way, I'm published in peer review.

1258
01:35:12,319 --> 01:35:15,159
I have a peer review published paper, so I know

1259
01:35:15,279 --> 01:35:19,880
how this work process works. It's not a scientific paper.

1260
01:35:20,039 --> 01:35:23,800
It's in an economic journal, but it is nevertheless peer review.

1261
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:33,600
So the people who naively act like the way that

1262
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:36,520
this happens is just everybody being neutral, and then they

1263
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,439
just you just whoever's got the best arguments and whoever's

1264
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:41,680
got the best data and research. They just put their

1265
01:35:42,239 --> 01:35:44,159
time in and they've put their paper in, and if

1266
01:35:44,199 --> 01:35:46,720
if you've got the goods, you're gonna get published. Is

1267
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:49,520
utterly retarded. What could be more naive than this? Have

1268
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:52,319
you ever actually been in academia? Have you been in

1269
01:35:52,399 --> 01:35:52,960
the grid world?

1270
01:35:53,079 --> 01:35:53,279
Speaker 3: I have?

1271
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,079
Speaker 2: It doesn't work like that. You know how it really works.

1272
01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:03,760
It's run by clicks of extreme leftists, extreme ideologues, extreme feminists,

1273
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:10,560
extreme weirdos, creepers, quite literally all over academia, just freakin degenerates.

1274
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:15,039
They are in clicks, they're in secret societies, they're in

1275
01:36:15,159 --> 01:36:19,239
their own little networks. Many of them are bought and

1276
01:36:19,359 --> 01:36:25,479
paid for by big foundations and even the CIA. They

1277
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:29,680
know that it's a racket. Again, the whole university system

1278
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:34,000
is a giant tax and debt racket. So why do

1279
01:36:34,079 --> 01:36:35,680
you think they're all going to be telling you the truth?

1280
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:40,079
They're not. They're liars and The way academia works is

1281
01:36:40,159 --> 01:36:45,319
that people aren't interested in truth. They are interested in

1282
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:48,319
making a name for themselves in academia to get funding.

1283
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:51,199
That's number one. And the way that you do that

1284
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:56,119
is that you have to come up with interesting, weird theories.

1285
01:36:56,279 --> 01:36:59,760
You have to come up with Shakespeare was actually a tranny.

1286
01:37:00,159 --> 01:37:03,520
Let me give you the most technical analysis, trying to

1287
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:07,079
prove something completely retarded, and because it fits in with

1288
01:37:07,239 --> 01:37:11,039
the overall agenda, you get shot up the ladder. That's

1289
01:37:11,079 --> 01:37:15,600
how academia works. Right, when you publish your paper proving

1290
01:37:16,359 --> 01:37:20,800
Shakespeare was a training, that's academia, dum dumbs. It's not

1291
01:37:21,279 --> 01:37:25,960
this noble pursuit of truth and virtue. Far from it,

1292
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:31,560
read kun right. Structures of scientific revolution. Scientific revolutions don't

1293
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:35,039
come because everybody's nobly seeking the truth. Scientific revolutions come

1294
01:37:35,159 --> 01:37:38,720
because somebody puts out something true and the entire establishment

1295
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:40,840
attacks it because they don't want to be wrong.

1296
01:37:41,279 --> 01:37:41,680
Speaker 3: That's why.

1297
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:50,640
Speaker 2: Now, if you have not heard all the old shows

1298
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:52,560
that I did with Hoaxtbusters, you can go back and

1299
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:55,399
listen to all those because we covered this ad nauseum.

1300
01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:58,239
I'm not going through rehash two years worth of podcast

1301
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:01,760
discussing scientism when you can go listen to all those

1302
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:06,039
where we endlessly cover the many, many, many examples of

1303
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:10,560
scientific peer review being fraudulent, scientific peer review being busted

1304
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:13,880
as fraudulent on a mass scale. Did you hear me

1305
01:38:14,039 --> 01:38:18,159
a mass scale of scientific research being fraudulent? And I

1306
01:38:18,239 --> 01:38:21,159
can tell you from personal example that my mom was

1307
01:38:21,199 --> 01:38:24,920
an editor for science journals for the biggest publisher in

1308
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:28,840
America at one time. I know how this works. And

1309
01:38:29,239 --> 01:38:30,840
all these dumb dums that try to talk about it,

1310
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:33,680
they don't even know that scientific publishing is private. Do

1311
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:36,680
you think that billionaire companies might have a say in

1312
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:41,760
what gets published in scientific journals? Of course they do.

1313
01:38:43,079 --> 01:38:44,920
It would be naive and stupid to think that they don't.

1314
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:49,880
But how many of these naive scientism promoters have ever

1315
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:52,439
even talked about this. They don't know who read l

1316
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:55,039
Cvier is. They don't know that read el Sevier publishes

1317
01:38:55,399 --> 01:38:59,399
the biggest science journals in America and that they're a

1318
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:03,960
private billion dollar company. They don't know what Harcourt brace

1319
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:07,920
Yovanovich was in the eighties. They don't know about Harcourt Publishing.

1320
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:11,760
They don't know about the fact that Harcourt owned Sea World. Now,

1321
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:13,399
as you say, why does that matter, Well, because that

1322
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:15,880
shows you that the entities that are publishing the biggest

1323
01:39:16,039 --> 01:39:19,600
science journals in the world are private entities that buy

1324
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:24,840
theme parks, so they're for profit. They're not noble pursuers

1325
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:33,279
of truth. Dummy, right, So again naivety, idiocy, People don't

1326
01:39:33,279 --> 01:39:37,399
know what they're talking about, and people don't make connections

1327
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:41,079
across disciplines. This is another problem with education. Right. So

1328
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:43,920
one of the reasons that we the philosophy has been

1329
01:39:44,079 --> 01:39:47,239
discarded is that guess what philosophy teaches you to make connections.

1330
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:51,600
Philosophy teaches you to think about the relationship between one

1331
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:56,159
thing and another thing and their connections. And the entirety

1332
01:39:56,199 --> 01:40:01,800
of modern education is built on tearing down actions, excuse me,

1333
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:07,079
tearing down these relationships. So, for example, we all know,

1334
01:40:07,319 --> 01:40:10,279
hopefully we're familiar with the idea of the Prussian education

1335
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:15,560
model and the idea of extreme compartmentalization. It was not

1336
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:18,800
accidental that that's the educational model that the West accepted

1337
01:40:19,119 --> 01:40:22,640
and adopted because the goal was to create socialized individuals,

1338
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:24,680
not educated individuals. And all you have to do is

1339
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:27,239
read John Dewey, Horace Mann and all the founders of

1340
01:40:27,239 --> 01:40:29,720
American education, public education, they talk about that. They talk

1341
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:35,039
about creating the socialized idiot individual, not the thinker, not

1342
01:40:35,199 --> 01:40:38,720
the philosopher, not the person who makes connections, the person

1343
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:44,039
who only sticks to some minutia, some stupid detail, worthless thing.

1344
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:50,760
Publishing your paper about the length of Shakespeare's strap on

1345
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:53,520
that he wore as a trainee, that's all you're supposed

1346
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:55,840
to know about in your academic I'm not joking by that.

1347
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:58,880
You think that that's literally what the academic study. They

1348
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:03,920
will study their lives into proving Shakespeare was a trainee

1349
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:05,119
and how long the dong was?

1350
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:06,560
Speaker 3: It?

1351
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:09,359
Speaker 2: Is that retarded. I am not exaggerating. I am not exaggerating.

1352
01:41:09,399 --> 01:41:11,399
I am not exaggerating. I'm telling you it's that retarded.

1353
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:19,920
I was there. That's what academia is. Okay, Now you

1354
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:22,159
said when I wait a minute, Jay, this sounds like

1355
01:41:22,199 --> 01:41:25,119
you're saying you're an obscurantist. Science doesn't exist. No, no, no,

1356
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:30,079
Real science doesn't happen in those areas. Real science happens

1357
01:41:30,119 --> 01:41:33,840
in engineering, Real science happens in computer science. Real science

1358
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:37,840
happens in disciplines that actually have to apply the theory

1359
01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:41,880
to the real world. It doesn't happen in biology class

1360
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:46,039
or astronomy class. Okay, those are propaganda classes. But people

1361
01:41:46,079 --> 01:41:48,760
that do engineering, they do real hard science absolutely all

1362
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:53,159
the time. And that's who develops things. That's why Lockheed Martin,

1363
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:57,000
Raytheon and Boeing don't call up Richard Dawkins. They don't

1364
01:41:57,079 --> 01:42:04,319
call up JF to figure out how to advance their technology. No,

1365
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:07,720
they call it people from engineering. Okay, I'm not saying

1366
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:09,800
that Jeff's not smart guy. I'm not dissing Jeff. I'm

1367
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:13,079
just making the point that biology, life sciences, et cetera.

1368
01:42:13,119 --> 01:42:16,199
Cent unless you're working in like biometrics and stuff like that,

1369
01:42:17,359 --> 01:42:21,960
you're not advancing the cause of so called applied science

1370
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:28,079
generally speaking, generally speaking, Okay, and again I'm not saying

1371
01:42:28,119 --> 01:42:30,359
this is true for every single biologist. I'm just saying

1372
01:42:30,359 --> 01:42:32,600
that this is the way the system works in terms

1373
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:37,199
of academia. Of sure, plenty of biologists, plant of palaeontologists.

1374
01:42:37,239 --> 01:42:39,119
They go when they study things and they make discoveries.

1375
01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:41,840
And again we already talked about this in the beginning.

1376
01:42:42,079 --> 01:42:45,600
You can make discoveries and be correct about things within

1377
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:50,000
your niche and still have the wrong paradigm. Your whole

1378
01:42:50,279 --> 01:42:53,479
worldview can be wrong and you still make discoveries. The

1379
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:56,479
fact that you make correct discoveries does not prove that

1380
01:42:56,640 --> 01:43:01,319
your whole world view of paradigm is correct. And that's true.

1381
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,199
I think would say that's self evident. It's obviously true

1382
01:43:05,399 --> 01:43:08,239
because even the atheists again will admit that there are

1383
01:43:08,279 --> 01:43:11,760
plenty of theists in mathematics, plenty of theists and engineering

1384
01:43:12,199 --> 01:43:15,159
who make discoveries and advances, and they believe that those

1385
01:43:15,199 --> 01:43:17,920
people are wrong in their paradigms of theism, and yet

1386
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:22,000
they still make advances. Likewise, atheists can make advances, Atheists

1387
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:26,199
can make discoveries. Sure, absolutely, that does not prove their paradigm.

1388
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:37,399
Now we got a couple of super chats here before

1389
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:43,279
I continue going on, Alex Parker or Alex Parror, you

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make me want to be a better man. Well good, hopefully,

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that's uh, that's what we're here to promote. Not in

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the Masonic sense, right, Freemasonry says they make good men better.

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That's not what we're here to do. We want to

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make men into gods. Okay, so theosis is what we're

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talking about here, not some gay free Masonic thing. But

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thank you Alex Justin Stan ten dollars, thank you for

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going through the explanation of salvations of the Jews. Obviously

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it isn't from the Jews themselves, but what was given

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to them from God. Now, of course, I mean, I

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don't think anybody was trying to say that there's some

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sort of mystical power to Judaism itself or to the

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biology or DNA. And this is sort of the mysticism

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of later Talmudism that says that, and the prophets of

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course rebuked that that idea many times over. David seeing

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five dollars Fantils Apologetic you mentioned can you link it?

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It's called Vantil's Apologetic by Greg Bnson. Not the most

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successful book though. This is a difficult text. You know,

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it's not going to be easy reading unless you have

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a pretty a fairly unless you're fairly fluent in philosophy,

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you're not going to be able to read the book.

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And I'm not trying to be mean, but I mean

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it's a very long, very technical book. There's other easier

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books that could be could be accessible. Boonnson has a

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what's his Let me find his other book real quick here.

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That's more accessible. Actually, the guy who Jason doctor Lyle,

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who I do think is pretty good. Actually, he has

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a really good introduction to this. So if you want

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an easy introduction, you know, unless you have like a

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master's degree in philosophy, you're not gonna be able to

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read Mental's Apologetic. I'm gonna put it right here real quick,

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underneath the PDF of the Lancets. So there's one Bonson book.

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I will add Vntil's Apologetic here, but you're not going

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to be able to read it unless you are advanced

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in philosophy. You're going to find it very difficult. I'm

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not saying you can't do it. If you want to

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do it, go for it. Let's see what's that. What's

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that Jason Lyle book?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 2: I think it's ultimate proof for creation is that it.

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He's got an introduction to to trance no arguments, that's

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pretty good. I think it's this one. So i'll put

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it down below. Okay, so all those books, by the way,

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have been added there to the to the link in

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the description. And yeah they're Protestants, so they get some

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things wrong. But for an orthodox approach to presubsitionalism, I'm

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going to add this book as well by Father Shuping

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which is called Iran Aus and Orthodox apologetic methodology where

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we can correct the errors of Calvinists via this book.

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Damn it, here we go.