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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball here
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Speaker 2: Dave Silver just off the pick aball court. No look,
Speaker 2: or you're playing tourists in Tucson. Yeah, why not? Very
Speaker 2: casual one. I'm still sporting his wellcat gear.
Speaker 3: Happen to you.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be a fan in Louisville one thousand percent?
Speaker 2: What the hell you wearing? What did you come from?
Speaker 2: Sun Tucson, Arizona? You're back to proudly? Yeah, you're going
Speaker 2: to Louisville. Yes, I am all right, congrats. I can't
Speaker 2: officially say what it is for, but I am going
Speaker 2: to Louisville. Yeah, I'm still waiting. He's got to win
Speaker 2: Kentucky Derby. He's even mad at me, though I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm going to be living with you for like a
Speaker 2: three days for the condurban, believing on the couch. Some
Speaker 2: get a nice couch. I got a hammocks even better.
Speaker 2: I can sleep on the It's just not too far
Speaker 2: from the from church, will gads please? Yeah? Yeah, no, cool,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a nice, nice little venture from two years.
Speaker 2: Maybe I should say much pat TV, I can say
Speaker 2: that TV. Yeah, oh boy. Behind the scenes, behind the scenes, okay, smart,
Speaker 2: I'm not there's a reason we're on. I'm on the radio. Okay, No,
Speaker 2: but let me too. Let me tell you David. David
Speaker 2: might or might or might not agree with me. That's
Speaker 2: the place to be. I mean, come on TV. In
Speaker 2: front of the camera's one thing. Behind the cameras good.
Speaker 4: Behind the camera, there's probably gonna be a million more
Speaker 4: opportunities to do things exactly. You know, a TV station
Speaker 4: has tons of people that you never see on the air,
Speaker 4: So there's a lot more jobs there. Maybe not the
Speaker 4: high paying jobs necessarily or the marquee jobs, but there's
Speaker 4: certainly more of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and with the ability to move up, yeah, for sure,
Speaker 2: to be you know, a decision maker. The best thing
Speaker 2: is just getting the door.
Speaker 4: You know, such a cliche, but if you can get
Speaker 4: that first job, it leads to probably a better second job,
Speaker 4: and who knows, you know where you're going from there.
Speaker 2: That's the goal. So good for you, Good for you.
Speaker 2: I guess when your spy job can let you talk
Speaker 2: next week maybe because you'll be gone, it should be
Speaker 2: next week. It should be next week. You this is
Speaker 2: your second last show, but it'll make you good like
Speaker 2: you're like your life depended on oh, like your job.
Speaker 2: I'm ready to put on a whole performance next week. Yes,
Speaker 2: don't screw my job at the end of the show.
Speaker 2: Not my goody two shoes guy. He would never do that.
Speaker 2: I would never mean nothing. Though there's some other people
Speaker 2: that might have been there. You'll drop the mic and
Speaker 2: say at this and that, like I almost we almost
Speaker 2: said a couple of times. No performance. I mean I'll
Speaker 2: probably sing or something or dance. That's fine, that's funny.
Speaker 2: We got the TV screens to karaoke there. Well, welcome
Speaker 2: to the show. A second show back this week after
Speaker 2: being out for a while. Uh, dave a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff going on. Yeah, it's kind of a busy week right.
Speaker 2: Summer is going to be a bee for me because
Speaker 2: I'm scrabbling for people and you know, everyone's busier. Gone.
Speaker 4: But that's when you can be creative, you know, maybe
Speaker 4: you can get Seriously, this is what we not our
Speaker 4: strategy in the summertime is we were doing more fun
Speaker 4: and interesting stories sometimes in the summer than we were
Speaker 4: during the typical school year. Okay, we can always go
Speaker 4: talk about the Wildcat football team, basketball and baseball and stuff.
Speaker 2: But once that ends, what are we gonna do for
Speaker 2: a couple of the routine ends. Yeah, that's what's crazy.
Speaker 2: One dude who's jumping jacks or whatever? You know exactly.
Speaker 2: You don't find that guy.
Speaker 4: That's why we need want to stick around and try
Speaker 4: to find those stories. But those are those were you know, challenging,
Speaker 4: but they were sometimes the most fun to do.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, best stories. Yeah, the my story. So I'll
Speaker 2: be looking up for that tool. Today. We have Brian
Speaker 2: Peterson out in Oregon. He'll talk about tomorrow's game with
Speaker 2: who You're back in your Woods r Yeah, so that'll
Speaker 2: happen tomorrow.
Speaker 5: One.
Speaker 2: They'll be probably in the middle of the game when
Speaker 2: we go on the air tomorrow. So he'll be on
Speaker 2: A three seventeen. And then at four seventeen, I got
Speaker 2: a guy who's been on the show before and he's
Speaker 2: coming back. Lauren Woods is coming on the show at
Speaker 2: four seventeen. Many people may not know well, but he's
Speaker 2: an actor.
Speaker 4: Yes, I saw him on some show and I will
Speaker 4: have to talk about it. I need to look up
Speaker 4: his IMDb page see what he's been doing. But yeah,
Speaker 4: there was something where he was like it was like
Speaker 4: obviously it was him. He was wearing some kind of
Speaker 4: a costume. He was wearing like a hood thing, but
Speaker 4: he was on, so good for him. I didn't know
Speaker 4: he was even branching off into something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So I've seen him on on Instagram a lot.
Speaker 2: So I said, come back, come back, and I've been
Speaker 2: pressuring him and he finally said, Okay, I get some
Speaker 2: time today, so he'll come on. We'll talk about what
Speaker 2: he's up to, you know, back back in the day.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you agree with me, but I've
Speaker 2: said this on the show a lot. Who's the best
Speaker 2: team in Arizona basketball or what's.
Speaker 4: The I mean, that was a great team that two
Speaker 4: thousand and one you're talking about that was I mean, yeah,
Speaker 4: Gilbert Walton, Richard Richard, Michael, Michael Wright, Lauren.
Speaker 2: Jason Gardner. I mean that was quite a teams. Still
Speaker 2: my best team in my mind, I know eighty eight.
Speaker 2: Everybody loves that team and it's fantastic. So it would
Speaker 2: go two thousand and one, eighty eight, ninety seven, ninety eight,
Speaker 2: ninety seven. Yeah, that was great.
Speaker 4: I mean that was a really good team obviously, and
Speaker 4: they came so close and I don't know had what
Speaker 4: was it Gilbert ran into Zach Randolph's shoulder or vice
Speaker 4: VERTI yeah, the injury I forgot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was he hit his clout, his middle mid section, yeah,
Speaker 2: and he heard.
Speaker 4: Show messed him up and Luke had an injury and yeah,
Speaker 4: So I mean that had things all just at the
Speaker 4: very last moment. It kind of cost them, you know,
Speaker 4: maybe a chance to go over the sure and then
Speaker 4: maybe a call or two. Yeah that too, caller too
Speaker 4: at half court too.
Speaker 2: But to me, it's the best team, best team again,
Speaker 2: like an eighty eight was fantastic, ninety eight was fantastic. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, two thousand and three was the first time
Speaker 2: they were the longest time they were. They spent that
Speaker 2: number one in the history of the program. Is that right?
Speaker 2: They three three teams, So that was a Luke Walton
Speaker 2: team with with Andre Hassan and sim that team another
Speaker 2: good one, but but just kind of got beat by
Speaker 2: Kansas in that sweet sixteen. Yeah, yeah, so okay, we'll
Speaker 2: talk all about that stuff for Lauren because he's had
Speaker 2: he had a pretty nice career here after transferring from
Speaker 2: Wake Forest. That's right.
Speaker 4: It was from Wake Forest, wasn't he kind of right
Speaker 4: after Tim dunk Or he played with.
Speaker 2: And that was one of the reasons why he left.
Speaker 2: There was some pressure to do what he did. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's he was supposed to take over after Duncan left
Speaker 2: and then transferred to the u A. Right, that's when
Speaker 2: they set out to remember they had to sit out
Speaker 2: actually a good old days with basketball.
Speaker 4: When you had to rest or had to sit sit
Speaker 4: up that one red shirt year whatever they call it,
Speaker 4: or transfer transfer year. It's hard to believe that basketball
Speaker 4: really kind of was like that word.
Speaker 2: It was like that.
Speaker 4: I mean even going way way back to when you know,
Speaker 4: freshmen were.
Speaker 2: Pretty that's when you were probably just a kid that
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I kind of sort of you know,
Speaker 4: in my mind, like three we could see like those
Speaker 4: U c l A teams and like Walton and al
Speaker 4: Sinder just played three years because they didn't get to
Speaker 4: play their freshman years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, were older. You in seventy two is seventy three.
Speaker 4: I was like early high school. Okay, okay, so I
Speaker 4: kind of remember I remember Walton.
Speaker 2: So we asked this yesterday. I don't know if people
Speaker 2: could still call in. Uh even Jesse, who has his
Speaker 2: smart as remarks about who you got his is? Uh
Speaker 2: his signatures from who's you? Back then? I did, do you? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So I still have them?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 2: I got Hank Aaron? Oh really? On what on a program?
Speaker 2: Cool that I got? Cool? That's a good one. I got.
Speaker 7: So.
Speaker 4: I'm my dad and I we would go to a
Speaker 4: lot of games in Oakland when the Warriors were We're
Speaker 4: there and their heyday, and I mean I got Jerry West,
Speaker 4: I got, I got.
Speaker 2: Wilt, I got and you would get you would get.
Speaker 4: That, I would get them. They would just come walking
Speaker 4: out of the locker room heading to the bus. So
Speaker 4: you were allowed to stand there, believe it or not.
Speaker 4: So your dad would say, hey, do this for my kid. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: you would you would push me towards at the end
Speaker 4: of the game.
Speaker 2: You would kind of go there. Yeah, that was a
Speaker 2: great experience we had.
Speaker 4: I mean I had basketball, we had hockey, but yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean Jerry West, I think I definitely got Wilt
Speaker 4: that group Gail Goodrich.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know all the Warriors, Rick Berry and Nate Thurman.
Speaker 2: Do you still have the stuff? Still have them? Well? Cool? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Your mom did away.
Speaker 4: And she saved my baseball cards, so I have all
Speaker 4: this stuff. No idea what I would ever do with him.
Speaker 4: You got a good mom, because most of our moms,
Speaker 4: What the hell is this? One day in Tucson, many
Speaker 4: years after I was out of our house, so all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, this box shows up and says.
Speaker 2: Make sure I got these two very nice. So I
Speaker 2: still have a lot of stuff. Yeah, I was good.
Speaker 2: You were got to get together with my boy George
Speaker 2: and see is this worth it? I don't know.
Speaker 4: I've you know, I used to kind of look at
Speaker 4: the old magazines. What was it Beckett's I think it
Speaker 4: was the baseball card one and he's look and see,
Speaker 4: oh I've got that card and it was worth, you know,
Speaker 4: twenty five dollars or this is worth twenty five cents.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I've got a lot. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: those those are prime. I have some. I sold my
Speaker 2: baseball cards in my senior year in high school to someone. Yeah,
Speaker 2: one hundred dollars back then to me, it was like fantastic. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm sure I would go there.
Speaker 4: Used to be baseball card shows if people remember, like
Speaker 4: Foothills Mall used to have short card shows every you know,
Speaker 4: a few times a year myself and I just go
Speaker 4: wandering in there just hey, wait a minute, I get
Speaker 4: that card and maybe, you know, just to kind of
Speaker 4: out of curiosity.
Speaker 2: Howard calls in him out again. He says, I bet
Speaker 2: you this guy, what Howard? What did I meet you?
Speaker 2: But use that those events? Really use a card guy? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I never other than just kind of having them.
Speaker 4: I never like thought about what am I going to do?
Speaker 4: And people have urged me to like, well maybe you know,
Speaker 4: just check because many of them are you know, could
Speaker 4: be worth something.
Speaker 2: I was assuming, sure, no, but I think they're more
Speaker 2: like I said yesterday, they are more there, worth more
Speaker 2: of me. Then to sell them to somebody, does that
Speaker 2: make sense? Because you have them there? To me, I'm
Speaker 2: excited for you just because you have them, and I
Speaker 2: don't know how you display them, but to me, that'd
Speaker 2: be cool.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't want to really give up my
Speaker 4: Henry areon autograph. No, I mean it's pretty cool I mean,
Speaker 4: I was lucky enough. Just a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 4: we were in in Kansas City. We went to the
Speaker 4: Negro League's Baseball Museum slash library, and all there's a
Speaker 4: you know who Geddy Lee is from Rush, the lead
Speaker 4: singer of Rush is a huge baseball collector, and he
Speaker 4: has his collection is there at the at that you know?
Speaker 2: Oh? Really he don't to them and there's like I couldn't.
Speaker 4: There's gotta be a couple of hundred balls, you know,
Speaker 4: everyone from Satchel Page to Charlie Pride singer is his collection.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Hell, we've gotta call Hello, you're on the air
Speaker 2: andine on the ball. Who's this? How's it going good?
Speaker 2: How are you? What's Brian? Oh? Pretty good?
Speaker 5: Guys talking about the baseball cards and stuff. Yeah, to me,
Speaker 5: it was a great bonding experience with.
Speaker 2: My son cool uh huh. Yeah.
Speaker 5: You know we used to you know, you know, we'd
Speaker 5: buy the packs and we'd go through them all the time,
Speaker 5: you know, because he's he's in his forties, sound and
Speaker 5: we still have all these cards and you know when
Speaker 5: he was I do, I do, okay, and I want
Speaker 5: to make sure. I want to make sure they don't.
Speaker 2: Get lost, right, whis the wives and moms? What the hell?
Speaker 2: Why do you still have these?
Speaker 5: I know, I know, you know, and uh but you
Speaker 5: know it was great when he was a little kid,
Speaker 5: you know, like uh, Dave was saying about, you know,
Speaker 5: he go to a foothold, Mom, we got alcon.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know they used to.
Speaker 5: Have the when Elkon was an indoor mall, and you know,
Speaker 5: we would go in there and they'd have all the
Speaker 5: all the tables lined up, like the said, and all
Speaker 5: the all the card dealers and it was great. It
Speaker 5: was really great. But it was just so much fun.
Speaker 5: Like we go to the grocery store, you know, and
Speaker 5: I get a back of cards and go, yeah, go
Speaker 5: get one and then you know, get home, we open it.
Speaker 3: Up and everything and you know see what we got.
Speaker 3: It was it was it was a.
Speaker 5: Great bonding experience, you know, you know, reading the reading
Speaker 5: about the players in the back of the cards and stuff.
Speaker 4: That was that was an art in itself, the way
Speaker 4: they would they would summarize their careers in four four lines.
Speaker 2: Sure didn't have a little cartoon in the state.
Speaker 3: Also too is now I mean there's so many different.
Speaker 5: Card companies, you know, compare compared to what it used
Speaker 5: to be. Basically it was just tops, yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: and and the cool thing got you got the piece
Speaker 5: of gum that was at that time was the size of.
Speaker 2: The card, right, and the hard is the card?
Speaker 3: Yes it was.
Speaker 5: It didn't matter, you know. You got that gum and
Speaker 5: you chewed that thing, and you.
Speaker 2: Know forever, I know, you have to clean the cards
Speaker 2: from the powder. Sometimes I don't know, because you're ten,
Speaker 2: twelve years old, even younger than that. When you drove
Speaker 2: your bike, where did you put the card?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Can't.
Speaker 5: I don't put when I put the cards in the spokes?
Speaker 5: How many decent cards I got rid of?
Speaker 2: Right exactly, because you don't know any better. And then
Speaker 2: you realize, oh, my mink carry's gone right now.
Speaker 4: My my mistake I made was I wrote on a
Speaker 4: few of them as they were retiring or getting traded. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I look at him, you know, twenty years later,
Speaker 4: I go, what did I do?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 4: Mickey Mantle? Oh there's a big R you know, in
Speaker 4: the back of the card.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. Maybe that's what makes him special. Yeah.
Speaker 5: One of the good cards we have is Michael Jordan
Speaker 5: baseball card signed by him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, the things we've had him on
Speaker 2: a couple of times. I forgot. I had forgotten. I
Speaker 2: don't know why. Who coached him in the minors of course,
Speaker 2: Terry Frank Terry Frank phones. Yeah, yeah, so I realized.
Speaker 2: So I saw his documentary again, I'm thinking, oh, I
Speaker 2: forgot because we've had him on the show. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: for the Barons. Was it Birmingham? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's just something there's too bad.
Speaker 5: Kids nowadays don't have that opportunity.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a different it's a different world now
Speaker 2: because they have like the shows from h with Triwtime
Speaker 2: Cars and people like that, where it's a business. Now
Speaker 2: it's kind of you. I'm sure you can go to
Speaker 2: Target and get to your stuff because I see them there.
Speaker 2: But it's not like when we did it. Maybe it is,
Speaker 2: but I don't think it is. I don't think so either.
Speaker 4: Okay, thanks, Yeah, Like, like you were saying, there's so
Speaker 4: many companies now too. Back then, it was like Tops
Speaker 4: and I was basically it. You know, you get the
Speaker 4: Tops whole collection. I think that's what I wound up
Speaker 4: getting from somebody who had like the entire nineteen sixty
Speaker 4: nine season or.
Speaker 2: Something like that. That's what I wound up with. Thanks
Speaker 2: so much for Okay, thank you man. Let's take a
Speaker 2: break and get hold of Brian Peterson out in Orgon.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I Theboll here on Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteenth fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Dave Silver. You didn't
Speaker 2: know that Dave got along with us. Now we've got
Speaker 2: Brian Peterson from azydigitswarm dot com. Bryan, how are you great?
Speaker 8: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're on the greatest college camp I loved in
Speaker 2: my time covering college sports. I love Eugene, I love you, Gene.
Speaker 2: Big fan of Oregon, huh, big fan, big fan of
Speaker 2: Miss Matt Court. You know Matt Court. Back in the day,
Speaker 2: it could.
Speaker 8: Have burned I got to go there a couple of times.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Remember, it could have burned down with anybody's smoking
Speaker 2: a cigaret in that place.
Speaker 8: Oh man, it could have fallen apart with just people
Speaker 8: jumping up and down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know exactly, And that's and that's what they did.
Speaker 2: It was fantastic. What year did you go? What year?
Speaker 8: I think I was there in two thousand and four
Speaker 8: or two thousand and five, and then maybe a year
Speaker 8: or two before when the Pac Ten did their women's
Speaker 8: basketball tournament there. There's a great experience, just such a
Speaker 8: weird thing with having it so straight up. It felt
Speaker 8: like you were watching basketball in like a theater.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no question. I think Jones who was the
Speaker 2: coach it was, did he Ken't?
Speaker 8: Oh no, it was Ernie Kent. It was Ernie Kent there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was back in the day when everyone thought,
Speaker 2: or at least in Oregon thought, oh they're gonna catch Arizona.
Speaker 2: They're gonna cat Arizona in terms of prestige, and there
Speaker 2: was like, get off, get off my lawn. Whatever. Hey, well,
Speaker 2: now you're either there for baseball. What's the scene like,
Speaker 2: it's a day before.
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 8: Pretty good. It was a little cloudy and drizzly this
Speaker 8: morning when Arizona was practicing, but it's supposed to be
Speaker 8: really nice weather for the rest of the week here
Speaker 8: seventies eighties, No storms like there are at so many
Speaker 8: of the other regionals in college baseball, which are all
Speaker 8: centator in the Southeast. Arizona dealt with weather the last
Speaker 8: two times they traveled, Coral Gables in twenty two and
Speaker 8: Fayetteville in twenty three had tons of weather delays. So
Speaker 8: that alone makes this a better trip than those other ones.
Speaker 4: Plus there's some familiarity with the stadium, and I guess
Speaker 4: that's going to help.
Speaker 3: I would, yeah, they well, yeah, I mean because of
Speaker 3: the connection.
Speaker 8: With the Pac twelve. Arizona played here last season, lost
Speaker 8: to A three, but almost everybody in their starting lineup
Speaker 8: has played here, and a couple of them have been
Speaker 8: here twice because the seniors were here as freshman in
Speaker 8: twenty two, So that definitely gives them an advantage against
Speaker 8: cal Polly and if they play them Utah Valley because
Speaker 8: they've already seen what it's like. And you can even
Speaker 8: see an example of how that worked during the season.
Speaker 8: Arizona began the year at Globe Life Field in Arlington
Speaker 8: for a tournament, went oh To three three months later,
Speaker 8: come back for the Big twelve tournament and win all
Speaker 8: three games and just being a little bit more acclimated
Speaker 8: for how everything works there, it can only help you.
Speaker 2: I wanted to say, Oh God, what I want to say?
Speaker 2: Oh I saw something. I guess it's accurate from the
Speaker 2: line from yesterday. Playing these guys, it's even money. I'm
Speaker 2: assuming that the San Luis they're going to throw their
Speaker 2: ace and Arizona'll throw let's ace. But he must be
Speaker 2: pretty good. Yeah, his name.
Speaker 8: Is Griffin As he's a right handed sophomore. I think
Speaker 8: he's seven and two on the season, an era in
Speaker 8: the mid threes. He's not a flame thrower. He's more
Speaker 8: a guy uses a lot of his change up and
Speaker 8: Arizona has had some vulnerabilities to off speed pitches and
Speaker 8: breaking balls, mostly from left handers, but they just have
Speaker 8: to be disciplined and not go chasing after those balls
Speaker 8: that start down in the zone because change up's just
Speaker 8: going to keep dropping. They need to be going after
Speaker 8: the high balls. They're playing in a park aside from
Speaker 8: the fact that they're familiar with it, it's small, especially compared
Speaker 8: to High Corbett, which is one of the biggest in
Speaker 8: the country. So their ability to know that they don't
Speaker 8: have to rely on the home run, but they can
Speaker 8: play in a place where they can hit home runs
Speaker 8: because of how small it is, could hopefully work in
Speaker 8: their favor. And I don't think cal Poly is a
Speaker 8: big power team. They're more of a like a small
Speaker 8: ball West Coast team, so they're probably going to bunt
Speaker 8: a lot, try to steal some bases. I think seventy
Speaker 8: percent of their hits are singles, so it'll be a
Speaker 8: scrappy game. Team won forty one games, and they weren't
Speaker 8: just beating up, you know, weak teams in their conference.
Speaker 8: They were beating up good teams all of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have pretty good RPI is twenty nine, which
Speaker 4: you know, coming out of a Big West is pretty impressive.
Speaker 8: I would think, yeah, had they not won the Big
Speaker 8: West Tournament, title. They may have gotten in as an
Speaker 8: at large, or they may have been like a big
Speaker 8: snub because of where their RPI would have been. But
Speaker 8: the Big West Conference generally has a couple really strong teams.
Speaker 8: This year it's them and you see Irvine. Last year
Speaker 8: you see Santa Barbara hosted the regional. So it's a
Speaker 8: style of baseball that does well. It's just now you
Speaker 8: get into these tournaments where you're facing teams you haven't
Speaker 8: seen and you don't have that luxury of, oh, well,
Speaker 8: there's still going to be two more games for the rest.
Speaker 2: Of the weekend.
Speaker 8: Let's just win two out of the three. Once you
Speaker 8: lose one game in a regional, now you're behind the
Speaker 8: eight ball and you can't lose again. So the first
Speaker 8: game is very, very critical, and Arizona has had trouble
Speaker 8: in the first games of weekends. I think during PAC
Speaker 8: twelve play they went four and six in the opening game,
Speaker 8: but those again were situations where they knew they would
Speaker 8: be playing two more games after that different mindset.
Speaker 2: We kind of saw that with softball.
Speaker 4: I guess it wasn't the first game, but losing that
Speaker 4: even the second game put them behind the having to
Speaker 4: fight their way through a longer weekend. How about Mark Wazakowski.
Speaker 4: He's done quite well at Oregon after coming over from
Speaker 4: Arizona being an assistant for Andy Lopez two hundred wins.
Speaker 2: I kind of forgot he was there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, he had left after the twenty eleventh season
Speaker 8: to come to Oregon to be an assistant coach, and
Speaker 8: he was here for four or five years. Then he
Speaker 8: got his first head coaching job at Purdue and was
Speaker 8: there a couple of years, got them into the tournament,
Speaker 8: and when the Oregon job opened, he went back there
Speaker 8: and I think he's been.
Speaker 3: There since twenty twenty.
Speaker 8: Somewhere about it, or maybe a little bit before that.
Speaker 8: But yeah, he got over two hundred wins this year,
Speaker 8: the last year and the year before they made Super Regionals,
Speaker 8: and he's definitely established himself a program here. And this
Speaker 8: year the Ducks have one hundred and seven home runs,
Speaker 8: which is a school record. It does help they're playing
Speaker 8: in a smaller park, but they do have dudes who
Speaker 8: can send it out of the park. Mason Neville, who
Speaker 8: ironically was committed to Arizona before Jay Johnson went to LSU,
Speaker 8: and he could be in his junior year at the
Speaker 8: u of A had things gone differently.
Speaker 3: He leads the nation with twenty six home.
Speaker 8: Runs and he's their center fielder and nineteen of those
Speaker 8: who come in this park, so he's one of the
Speaker 8: guys they.
Speaker 3: Have to keep in the park if they face.
Speaker 8: Oregon, and I would imagine at some point in this
Speaker 8: tournament they're going to play Orgon And there's another guy
Speaker 8: on the Ducks, Jacob Walsh, their first baseman. He's a
Speaker 8: senior and he has terrorized Arizona in the past two
Speaker 8: years ago, I think he hit four or five home
Speaker 8: runs in four games against the Wildcats. So he's another
Speaker 8: one that they have to worry about. And Oregon Scott
Speaker 8: a very strong overall pitch staff. They've got a very
Speaker 8: good left handed pitcher named Grayson Grinzel who would probably
Speaker 8: throw against Arizona if they meet up tomorrow or excuse me,
Speaker 8: if they meet up Saturday in the.
Speaker 2: Late game.
Speaker 8: So definitely gonna be tough ones. The only team here
Speaker 8: that I don't think is particularly great would be Utah Valley.
Speaker 8: They have a twenty eight and twenty seven record, had
Speaker 8: to win four straight games in their conference tournament to
Speaker 8: get here, and had lost ten of eleven before that,
Speaker 8: But again it's the inns of a tournament, and Arizona's
Speaker 8: gone oh and to the last two years with a
Speaker 8: loss to the number four seed to get in each
Speaker 8: of those, So there's no guarantee.
Speaker 2: So how do you grade or what do you think
Speaker 2: about the job that Chip has done. He kind of
Speaker 2: falls into these petters, does really well, really well, kind
Speaker 2: of have a lull, and then he catches the fire
Speaker 2: at the end.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean the during the season ups and downs.
Speaker 8: I think that's just something that comes with a long season.
Speaker 8: Even in twenty one, when j Johnson's last year they
Speaker 8: went to the World Series, they had a stretch in
Speaker 8: the middle of the year where they fell into a
Speaker 8: rut to the point they lost a game at Washington
Speaker 8: State where I feel like they gave up like twenty
Speaker 8: or twenty one runs and it just this didn't look
Speaker 8: like a team that was going in the right direction.
Speaker 8: And then they got hot after that and made it
Speaker 8: all the way to Omaha and then go oh into
Speaker 8: in the College World Series. And any team can do that,
Speaker 8: and there's going to be one or two of those
Speaker 8: that do that each year. But I think overall, Hale
Speaker 8: has done a very good job here. He's gotten to
Speaker 8: the tournament every year, no coach since Frank Stancett had
Speaker 8: gone four straight years. He just hasn't gotten to the
Speaker 8: next step. And that's really where it comes down to,
Speaker 8: is at least getting to the Super regionals. J Johnson
Speaker 8: made the World Series in his first year, Andy Lopez
Speaker 8: in his third year, and Jerry Kendall in his fourth
Speaker 8: year or maybe the other two, or maybe Andy was
Speaker 8: his fourth and Jerry was his third, I don't remember exactly,
Speaker 8: but they all did something significant in the first four years.
Speaker 8: And college baseball, maybe more than any other college sport,
Speaker 8: does have a big cyclical nature to it since a
Speaker 8: lot of the best players once they get into college,
Speaker 8: they get drafted after their junior year. So every three
Speaker 8: or four years you can have that one really good
Speaker 8: team and then there's probably going to be a drop
Speaker 8: off because you lose a large class. That's what Arizona
Speaker 8: is facing here. Eight of their nine guys in their
Speaker 8: starting lineup may either are either going to graduate or
Speaker 8: could get drafted, and you have to replace a lot
Speaker 8: of that. So the players know this and the coaches
Speaker 8: know this that like this, there is no tomorrow so
Speaker 8: if there's a team that's going to be able to
Speaker 8: get past the first weekend at.
Speaker 4: This Mason White was a story in Texas last week.
Speaker 4: You think he continued to hit this way for another
Speaker 4: couple of weeks.
Speaker 8: Well, he has played if you include conference tournaments and
Speaker 8: NCAA tournaments, he has played I want to say, fifteen
Speaker 8: postseason games in his career. He has at least a
Speaker 8: hit in every single game. He homered in both games
Speaker 8: of the regional as a freshman. He hit three home
Speaker 8: runs last week in the Bigsball tournament. He's won two
Speaker 8: conference tournament MVPs. It seems like he rises the city
Speaker 8: occasion in these games, the winner go home kind of situation.
Speaker 8: But they need more than just one guy who's doing it.
Speaker 8: Their number two hitter, Aaron Walton, was probably their best
Speaker 8: overall hitter for the season until the last three weeks,
Speaker 8: and he's been in a big hole. If he can
Speaker 8: just get a little bit of what he has back,
Speaker 8: that definitely would change things. And if Brendan summer Hill
Speaker 8: is getting on base at the top of the order,
Speaker 8: it just sets the table for everything. He's not hitting
Speaker 8: for the kind of power that you would hope for
Speaker 8: coming back from his injuries. But he's getting on base,
Speaker 8: he's drawing walks, he has a great eye, and Arizon
Speaker 8: needs to score early to set the tone. This is
Speaker 8: a team that I think they're something like thirty or
Speaker 8: thirty one in oh when leading in the seventh inning
Speaker 8: or later, and it's just a matter of they have
Speaker 8: to get to that lead early and hold on to
Speaker 8: it in those middle innings. They're not really a team
Speaker 8: that makes big comebacks. They won the Big Twelve Final
Speaker 8: when they were down one nothing, but if they fall
Speaker 8: behind a couple runs, I don't know if the team
Speaker 8: is necessarily built to make that comeback.
Speaker 2: I'm naive to this, Brian, and you covered it for
Speaker 2: a long time now in Grain. In the baseball situation,
Speaker 2: someotball we know that, you know, if they don't get
Speaker 2: to the World Series, there's a lot of complaints, Well,
Speaker 2: you know, Caman can't do it, blah blah blah, even
Speaker 2: though she's had a great a great year and a
Speaker 2: nice little four year stretch. Is this pressure or whatever
Speaker 2: word you want to use. The same for Chip if
Speaker 2: he doesn't get to the Omaha to the series.
Speaker 8: Not this early because.
Speaker 3: He's not following yes, j Johnson.
Speaker 8: Got there twice in six years, but it's it's not
Speaker 8: the same. Arizona has won four national titles and they've
Speaker 8: made the World Series eighteen times, and both of those
Speaker 8: are among the top ten in it, but they're not
Speaker 8: like softball, where they are one of the three or
Speaker 8: four biggest names, and it's it's not the same coach
Speaker 8: who did all of that. Like in softball, if you know, like.
Speaker 3: This is.
Speaker 8: If Chip were doing this stuff right after Jerry Stitt,
Speaker 8: or excuse me, right after Jerry Kendall, like if he
Speaker 8: was in the Jerry Stitt era in the late nineties, then.
Speaker 3: It would be the pressure you need to do more,
Speaker 3: which is why Jerry.
Speaker 8: Stick didn't last very long because Jerry Kendall had been
Speaker 8: so successful.
Speaker 3: For so long and it's hard to come after that
Speaker 3: first person.
Speaker 8: We saw that with men's basketball, doesn't matter what Sean
Speaker 8: Miller did. If he doesn't get to final fours and
Speaker 8: win a title, he is not successful because he didn't
Speaker 8: do what Luke did. Chip's not in that same boat.
Speaker 8: Caitlin Lowe is with softball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's following in the legend, so kind of hard
Speaker 4: to live up to that.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it is, but it's also unfair to.
Speaker 8: Compare apples to oranges in that respect, because yes, Ca
Speaker 8: Andrea had all that success, but he wasn't.
Speaker 3: Like super star success right away.
Speaker 2: Same with Luke.
Speaker 8: Luke took a couple of years before he finally got
Speaker 8: things established and then hit his stride, So that needs
Speaker 8: to be taken with a grain of sap.
Speaker 2: Well, I have a good time. I know you're with
Speaker 2: Michael lev I know he's not me as a roommate,
Speaker 2: so oh good luck. I should we tell him?
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, because he does yoga in the morning. I
Speaker 8: never saw you. Yeah, I don't. I think if you
Speaker 8: stretched it was because you slipped.
Speaker 2: I would never I can't even spell yoga, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll get it. At ten, I'm getting and turn off
Speaker 2: the turn off the curtains, get up, you know whatever,
Speaker 2: pose those damn curtains.
Speaker 8: Well, you would love where we're staying. We're actually staying
Speaker 8: in these apartments right across the street from the baseball
Speaker 8: stadium that is basically student housing, off campus housing, and
Speaker 8: it's got built in desks in the room and all that,
Speaker 8: but it's definitely like a college vibe around there. So
Speaker 8: that would be your wheelhouse seat because I know you
Speaker 8: love the college kids.
Speaker 2: Is school out there? Are they done? No?
Speaker 8: No, they are. I guess they have another week of
Speaker 8: classes and then yeah, Oregon and Oregon State on the
Speaker 8: quarter system, if either of them were to host the
Speaker 8: super Regional next week next weekend, it would be coinciding
Speaker 8: with the end of finals and graduation.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's say Arizona guests do this. Could they be
Speaker 2: in Tucson?
Speaker 8: It really depends on who wins.
Speaker 2: The other side, as they're in.
Speaker 8: The the against the number twelve seed is who is
Speaker 8: their regional host? They'd be paired up with the Chapel
Speaker 8: Hill Regional, hosted by number five North Carolina. If North
Speaker 8: Carolina doesn't win that regional, then it would come down
Speaker 8: to I guess which of the teams that won the
Speaker 8: two and who hosts? Who bid to host the Super Regional.
Speaker 8: And the better thing, If it were the number two
Speaker 8: seeds from over there, which I believe is Oklahoma, Arizona
Speaker 8: might be able to host. If it's the three seats
Speaker 8: from over there, then Arizona would host because they'd be
Speaker 8: considered the better team. But yeah, I got to win
Speaker 8: the three, three, four or five games here first.
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks so much for giving us an update, good
Speaker 2: luck and that we'll see you next week.
Speaker 3: Thanks guys, to take care.
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Speaker 2: Silver and now on the phone we have Hall of
Speaker 2: Famer Bob Bafford. Bob, how are you?
Speaker 3: Bye? Thank you and thanks for having me having me on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course I saw you over the weekend. What
Speaker 2: a great ride with your two phillies, and I'm thinking
Speaker 2: Bob has some pretty good phillies. You usually don't have
Speaker 2: a lot of phillies. But first of all, before I
Speaker 2: say it and we get into that, uh, we've had
Speaker 2: Kerr on not too long ago, and I'm thinking I
Speaker 2: told Steve on the air, I wish I could, for
Speaker 2: a weekend, could be Steve Kerr. And I also say,
Speaker 2: for a weekend, I wish that could be Bob Bafford
Speaker 2: giving your life and you know, horse racing and all
Speaker 2: this stuff. And then I said to Steve, now you
Speaker 2: have to deal with Draymond that I never mind, never mind,
Speaker 2: you just have to deal with what you deal with.
Speaker 2: So and I'd rather be you. I think.
Speaker 3: I'd rather be making the money that Steve Kurt is
Speaker 3: a trade with them. I'll put up with it for
Speaker 3: the right for the money they make. It's ridiculous, right right,
Speaker 3: he earns it. He's a great he's a great coach.
Speaker 2: Right right. You two loves are fantastic. Your two phillies.
Speaker 2: And I like the second one and didn't realize you
Speaker 2: had the first one. You're gonna have to give me
Speaker 2: the names.
Speaker 3: Well it's it's it was uh seismic Beauty and Splendora
Speaker 3: they ran this last weekend. And I have some really
Speaker 3: nice mayors, you know, they're in The crop that I
Speaker 3: have is pretty strong, and so sometimes it happens sometimes,
Speaker 3: you know, you go through years there you don't have
Speaker 3: a good one. I've had some really good ones in
Speaker 3: the past, you know, then it gets quiet. But uh,
Speaker 3: you know we have you know, those Phillies Seismic Beauty.
Speaker 3: I have a mayor called Cavalieri who is really good
Speaker 3: mayor called Ritchie Hope Road ran. Uh she's another good Philly.
Speaker 3: So I'm pretty stocked up in the in the Philly division,
Speaker 3: you know, and we're all hoping, you know, come in
Speaker 3: the fall the Breeders' Cups at del Mar this year
Speaker 3: and hopefully that that's the main objective is to have
Speaker 3: him ready on that big day because that's when the
Speaker 3: they give out the the championships.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, tell us about this year for you, I
Speaker 4: mean you obviously you get to come back to the
Speaker 4: Kentucky Derby. You're involved there, You're involved with the Preakness.
Speaker 4: And now what's coming up with the Belmont? Is it
Speaker 4: going to be Rodriguez? Is that going to be your horse?
Speaker 4: Is he gonna be ready.
Speaker 3: Yes, he's actually going to breeze tomorrow and hopefully. So
Speaker 3: far he's been doing great. It was unfortunate when we
Speaker 3: got to Kentucky and he was doing great and was
Speaker 3: coming off a big win in New York in the
Speaker 3: Wood and I breathed them at Kentucky and he bruised
Speaker 3: his foot. It was wet and a lot of times
Speaker 3: in it's raining, you know in California don't get a
Speaker 3: lot of rain, but h and he had a bruise
Speaker 3: and we just couldn't get him one hundred percent. And
Speaker 3: uh so we we couldn't run him, and we were
Speaker 3: still working on it. But it's one of those things
Speaker 3: where it you know, it's uh, it takes a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks just to you know, got to let it,
Speaker 3: you know, uh, work its way out. And and now
Speaker 3: he's good and he's ready to roll. And but it's
Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna be a pretty tough phrase that the
Speaker 3: journalism the horse that won the Preakness. You know, I've
Speaker 3: been chasing him all winter. He's he's really good and uh,
Speaker 3: you know the way he won the Preakness, he fought,
Speaker 3: he just bowled his way through there. And and like
Speaker 3: uh and and and one. That's pretty impressive when a
Speaker 3: horse can do that, you know, and so uh and
Speaker 3: then the Derby winner will be in there, and and
Speaker 3: that he's a horse that ran uh third in the
Speaker 3: Derby California horse he's uh and and Rodriguoz. Those are
Speaker 3: the four top I think three year olds, you know,
Speaker 3: and it's very rare that you get all for of them,
Speaker 3: you know, in there. And I think the reason is
Speaker 3: because it's not a mile and a half. It's being
Speaker 3: run at Saratoga usually turn at Belmont, but they're they
Speaker 3: tore it down and they're building a new, smaller venue there,
Speaker 3: so so they're gonna that's why they've been running the
Speaker 3: Belmont up there. They'll probably run it there this year
Speaker 3: and next year and then in twenty seven they're gonna
Speaker 3: they're gonna have it up there. So it's amount of quarter.
Speaker 3: It's it's easier on the horse, and the mile and
Speaker 3: a half is pretty it's tough. That's a tough distance,
Speaker 3: you know, especially if you've run That's why the Triple
Speaker 3: Crown it's so hard to win, because you run amount
Speaker 3: of quarter a mile three sixteenth to shortened up. Then
Speaker 3: you go a mile and a half, you know, in
Speaker 3: a five week frame, and so that can be tough.
Speaker 3: So that's why the derby winner the trainer really you
Speaker 3: know a great trainer, Billmont, he decided, you know, the
Speaker 3: Triple Crown. I wasn't you know, he wind away and
Speaker 3: have a better horse for the Belmont. And then they're
Speaker 3: New York guys, you know, so you know, everybody has
Speaker 3: their own they know their horse that they do. But
Speaker 3: they you know, horse and Hamlet, then they'll they'll take
Speaker 3: the crack at it.
Speaker 2: So I saw you at the Breeders in this November.
Speaker 2: You had some pretty good three three year olds. Think
Speaker 2: one of them who ran on the derby. I think
Speaker 2: he won the two year old thing. Gaming was third.
Speaker 2: What happened to Gaming? It seems like he lost his confidence.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Gaming was really you know, he won the Delmar
Speaker 3: Fraternity and he ran second to my horse in the
Speaker 3: Breeders Cup, and then I ran him back at lost
Speaker 3: all a Medos and he had a bad trip and
Speaker 3: he he just was got out of rhythm. And then
Speaker 3: I came back and and he just he lost for him.
Speaker 3: And all these horses will do that, they lose confidence
Speaker 3: and he's you know, he's fine, looks great, and he's uh,
Speaker 3: he ran a decent race in on h Derby weekend.
Speaker 3: He ran third in in a mile race. He ran
Speaker 3: a better race than he can But he's uh, he's
Speaker 3: a kind of horse that I'm letting him come back around.
Speaker 3: He's gonna run next week, maybe in a in a
Speaker 3: in a you know, Matt win, it's a Churchill down
Speaker 3: Mount on the sixteenth race. I might give him a
Speaker 3: shot there. If he doesn't run him well there, then
Speaker 3: I might try him on the turf. But yeah, he
Speaker 3: was he really just he was a head scratcher because
Speaker 3: he's this big, beautiful horse that looked like he had
Speaker 3: so much potential and then just one little you know,
Speaker 3: I guess, I guess horses get the yips, you know,
Speaker 3: like golfers. But but yeah, but we're slowly and then
Speaker 3: you have to just back it up and say, all right,
Speaker 3: he's not going to run in the Derby, So let's
Speaker 3: let's let's take baby steps and get his conference going back.
Speaker 3: It's there. They're horses, you know, and get them back
Speaker 3: go and then they get good, you know, they'll they'll
Speaker 3: go through a period there where you just gotta have
Speaker 3: to wait on him a little bit.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you real quick. I mentioned gaming
Speaker 2: because of course he's the horse from the local guys,
Speaker 2: your car guys, Whiteman and Watson and Pegram, So you
Speaker 2: know there's that connection.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, they're they're they're my best clients,
Speaker 3: you know, not only my best clients, but they're like
Speaker 3: my best friends. You know. They're they're great guys, and
Speaker 3: and they really you know, they love they love the game,
Speaker 3: and and they they they handle the hids and lows
Speaker 3: of the sport. You know, it's one of those racing's tough, Steve.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like it's like any sports. You know,
Speaker 3: it's like a coach, you know, or like you know
Speaker 3: these owners that you know, you you you know, you
Speaker 3: got to you gotta certain only certain people can really
Speaker 3: deal with horse racing, owning horses and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: because you know, you don't want a horse race to
Speaker 3: ruin your day. It's a horse race ruined your day.
Speaker 3: You're you should not be involved, all right. You got
Speaker 3: to be able to got to take it, just like
Speaker 3: when you're you know, sports teams or coaches or whatever
Speaker 3: you know, and but uh, you know, it's it's it's
Speaker 3: just like any other sport. And uh, but it never ends.
Speaker 3: We were it's a yearly thing. We don't have breaks,
Speaker 3: we don't have seasons. It just goes and goes and
Speaker 3: goes and goes. And so it's it's it's a lot
Speaker 3: of work. It's fun when it works well, and it's
Speaker 3: not fun, you know, But it's like anything. When the
Speaker 3: highs are high, the lows are roll low.
Speaker 2: But uh.
Speaker 3: My guys, you know the cardboard they have a passion
Speaker 3: for it. They love the horses, they they love the competition.
Speaker 3: And there's not a better feeling in watching your horse
Speaker 3: turn for home and he's on the lead, no matter
Speaker 3: what kind of race it is. It's just excitement, you know.
Speaker 3: And so that's you know, horse racing is unfortunately RULEDO
Speaker 3: I guess I guess they close it down.
Speaker 2: I ask you about that.
Speaker 4: Would you like to get involved maybe help help out
Speaker 4: in your roles of stopping grounds?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 3: Really, I just I love really because that's where I
Speaker 3: got my start. And uh, when they turned the barn
Speaker 3: area into soccer field, it was sort of that was
Speaker 3: not good. It was like not a good sign. You
Speaker 3: need a barn area. You know, you just that bringing
Speaker 3: him in, and you know it's that track is pretty small,
Speaker 3: you know, but uh in that grandstand, I mean it's
Speaker 3: like one good Win. I think it's going to go.
Speaker 3: But I have a lot of great memories from there.
Speaker 3: I went there as a jockey, as a trainer. My
Speaker 3: father took me when I was eleven years old. Just
Speaker 3: fell in love with the place. I loved it. It
Speaker 3: was actually the first official Courter horse race was running,
Speaker 3: really yeah, you know, and so it's there's a lot
Speaker 3: of history there and that's where corterhorse racing sort of
Speaker 3: got its birds right there, you know that. And so
Speaker 3: it's just a lot of memories. I remember going there
Speaker 3: a few years back, you know, just showing up there
Speaker 3: and one of the races one day, you know, just
Speaker 3: not the races, but for the uh, just to check
Speaker 3: it out. And it's it's really you know, it's a
Speaker 3: great place.
Speaker 2: So so back in the day when you had real quiet,
Speaker 2: I think it's late eighteen eighties eighty nine, I spent
Speaker 2: a day or two with your your mom and dad,
Speaker 2: Ellie and Bill. Great people. Obviously fun Your dad's a
Speaker 2: funny guy. Was a funny guy. What would they be
Speaker 2: thinking of you now and how proud would they be?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it was my father. It wasn't my
Speaker 3: father's passion. He loved animals. He loved horses, cattle, everything,
Speaker 3: and so he's the one that fell in love with
Speaker 3: the horses, rave horses racing, and and I was just
Speaker 3: tagging along with him, and that's how I got the
Speaker 3: bug and I really got to enjoy great memories with him. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: they weren't around when I finally won a triple crown.
Speaker 3: They were with me with the other triple crown, with
Speaker 3: three of them that we that was in ninety eight,
Speaker 3: two thousand and two, whatever, But you know, they were
Speaker 3: there two thousand and nine when I was inducted in
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. That was probably my proudest moment.
Speaker 3: And I remember them. They were just so proud, you know,
Speaker 3: and to be there and to get introducted in the
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame and have them there, it was that
Speaker 3: was pretty pretty moving for me. Was very emotional, And
Speaker 3: when I won the Triple Crown, I got very emotional
Speaker 3: because I wish they could what could have been there
Speaker 3: to witness it was the most unbelievable experience. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's the greatest sporting event I've ever been to because
Speaker 3: everybody was there rooting for one horse, you know, one
Speaker 3: hundred thousand people and it had been thirty thirty seven years.
Speaker 3: You know, it was ridiculous whatever. And so you know,
Speaker 3: great memories from kid from the Gallas RULEDO wins triple crown.
Speaker 3: That was not I didn't I didn't plan that.
Speaker 2: No, it's been ten years. I mean since I think
Speaker 2: America fifteen. It seems like just yesterday and.
Speaker 3: Then and then Justify, you know, a couple of years later.
Speaker 3: Then he does it and like makes it look easy
Speaker 3: and it's tough, but it's it's you know, they keep
Speaker 3: wanting to change it because they can't get enough horses
Speaker 3: to run in the second leg. Because a lot of
Speaker 3: a lot of the younger trainers now they're you know,
Speaker 3: they're they're using analytical sort of just like they do
Speaker 3: in sports. You know, well my horse, if I get
Speaker 3: more time, blah blah blah, and so you know, but
Speaker 3: that's the thing is to me, I like, I'm traditionalists.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't mean the same if if they changed it,
Speaker 3: and it would just be another race. You know, it's
Speaker 3: it's they're very emotional, they're they're very important races. And
Speaker 3: the Derby is like, that's the Derby is The Derby
Speaker 3: is like it's like the Masters. Okay, you know, you
Speaker 3: can win a lot of turn in golf, but everybody
Speaker 3: at the Masters. That's the Kentucky Derby. And so it's
Speaker 3: it's it's something that I still have to pinch myself sometimes.
Speaker 3: I can't believe what I've accomplished coming from where I
Speaker 3: came from.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how much longer are we going to be seeing
Speaker 4: you involved with this? I went d Wayne Lucas is like,
Speaker 4: what eighty nine or something.
Speaker 3: He's going to be ninety years old, and I was
Speaker 3: I talked to him. I was just talking to him yesterday.
Speaker 3: He was there, and I mean he just loved it.
Speaker 3: I mean, and he the guy was a great horseman.
Speaker 3: I remember the first time I saw Wayne Lucas. I
Speaker 3: was seventeen. I was at Sonoyda, Arizona, and they had
Speaker 3: these court horse trials and he pulls up in this
Speaker 3: shiny trailer with wheels and ran these horses there came
Speaker 3: in from New Mexico. And I mean the guy has
Speaker 3: always been, like, you know, not only is a great horseman.
Speaker 3: But it's a great showman type. Know, he'd be brought.
Speaker 3: He really up the game, you know, brought class into
Speaker 3: the court horse. He changed, revolutionized court horse racing, durban racing.
Speaker 3: He's the one that started putting horses on planes and
Speaker 3: shipping them to different races and winning off de waighing
Speaker 3: off the plane and all this and so and he's
Speaker 3: still at it. His mind is still it's great, you know,
Speaker 3: he's he's getting up there in age, but his mind's
Speaker 3: still sharp, and he's you know, he said, he's he
Speaker 3: still loves what he's doing. And he told me yesterday
Speaker 3: he says, you know, I've got a couple of nice
Speaker 3: two year olds and uh, Charlie Winningham had they he's
Speaker 3: a great trainer, had the best the best phrase, he said,
Speaker 3: you never he never knew anyone that committed suicide knowing
Speaker 3: they had a good two year old in the barn,
Speaker 3: you know. And so and that's where we all live for.
Speaker 3: You know, how's our two year olds doing? You know?
Speaker 3: And we've got a good tier that can go to
Speaker 3: the Derby maybe next year or something like that. You know,
Speaker 3: So you need something to keep you going. And horse
Speaker 3: racing and horses. It's great therapy for a lot of
Speaker 3: these guys. It's secondary business for them, and you know,
Speaker 3: they were very successful in their businesses, but they want
Speaker 3: to do something. This is like their own. You know,
Speaker 3: they can't own a franchise team, you know, a team
Speaker 3: or something like that, but this is theirs, their own team.
Speaker 3: That's they got their colors and that's how they get involved.
Speaker 3: And I'm lucky that my brother Bill, who lives in Tucson,
Speaker 3: got to be good friends with Carral and Paul and
Speaker 3: that's how I met them and got them involved with
Speaker 3: horse racing. And they've had a lot of good luck, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Bob, thanks as always. Good luck next week with Rodriguez.
Speaker 2: I know he's going to be in my trifecta. You
Speaker 2: got it, my man. Good luck to you all right.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: You got to go. We're way over. So that was
Speaker 2: fun though. That was that was great. Yeah, thanks much.