Speaker 1: The MP.
Speaker 2: Alright, what's up, guys, how's everyone doing today? Here will
Speaker 2: be a second here, all right, guys, Yes, I shaved
Speaker 2: the beard. Everyone, Let's get that out of the way.
Speaker 2: I shaved the beard. Anyway, I want to welcome everybody
Speaker 2: to another Friday Night podcast, Ladies and gentlemen. This is
Speaker 2: actually gonna be our final podcast of the podcast eason
Speaker 2: for the time being. We will have other podcasts and
Speaker 2: other live shows at a later day and time, kind
Speaker 2: of randomly. As as you guys know, for those who've
Speaker 2: been watching the follow we've been doing this every Friday night.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but this is gonna be the last Friday
Speaker 2: podcast for a while. Anyway. A couple of things coming up.
Speaker 2: We have some camping coming up, which I'm looking forward to. Actually,
Speaker 2: the first bit of camping I'm doing this year is
Speaker 2: happening next week. That's right, next week, I am meeting
Speaker 2: up with a good friend, fellow field researcher in Pennsylvania. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be going up to Pennsylvania next Thursday morning
Speaker 2: and we're gonna be doing some camping and it's gonna
Speaker 2: be interesting. I'm very interesting to see what the area
Speaker 2: looks like for myself what might be discovered in this area.
Speaker 2: A little background on this area here that we're gonna
Speaker 2: be investigating. This location has had some strange lights. But
Speaker 2: more interesting, more fascinating right now are the tracks that
Speaker 2: have been found in this area. These an't your average
Speaker 2: wildlife tracks or whatever. They are definitely unknown, very weird,
Speaker 2: very cryptid, twelve to fourteen inch tracks with free, elongated
Speaker 2: toes and a rounded heel like a human. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've compared them to everything I could think
Speaker 2: of for every bird species and even reptiles, amphibians. It
Speaker 2: doesn't compare, I don't know. But these casts have been photographed, measured,
Speaker 2: even casts, there was molds made of these. So yeah,
Speaker 2: this interest this area in the Chestnut Ridge area of Pennsylvania,
Speaker 2: it's been having a lot of strange stuff, and from
Speaker 2: what I've gathered over the years, this location, it's had
Speaker 2: a lot of strange activity throughout the whole Chestnut Ridge
Speaker 2: area for itself. So yeah, that's coming up next weekend.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be investigating that the location where we're gonna
Speaker 2: be set up. Can there are property owners who have
Speaker 2: been experiencing some strange things right there by where we're
Speaker 2: gonna be investigating. And yes, we'll actually be camping on
Speaker 2: the property owners property, which we have permission for them
Speaker 2: from them, and we're gonna be interviewing them. I've already
Speaker 2: been told by my buddy Chad that they will talk
Speaker 2: on camera and share what they know and what they've experienced.
Speaker 2: So that's gonna be great. So I'll be filming and
Speaker 2: documenting all this. But then again, let's jump ahead to
Speaker 2: the month of April, April eleventh. My plans are I
Speaker 2: got a upcoming Bigfoot town hall gathering in Parkersburg, West Virginia.
Speaker 2: Also me and Chad will be joining me there Chadwick
Speaker 2: Gales from Pennsylvania. We're gonna be doing a little investigating there.
Speaker 2: I got an interview already played up there. And then
Speaker 2: jumping ahead also towards the twenty fifth of April, right
Speaker 2: here in Virginia, We've got a Bigfoot down hall gather
Speaker 2: right here in Virginia at the Waynesboro Public Library. And
Speaker 2: I was just recently contacted by the library. They want
Speaker 2: me to do another one in October, so I scheduled
Speaker 2: another one in October of this year. So that's gonna
Speaker 2: be pretty cool. Uh, they remember me doing these a
Speaker 2: long time ago, and they really want to bring the
Speaker 2: big Foot into crypt shows and the programs back into
Speaker 2: the library, which I thought was pretty cool. So anyway, guys,
Speaker 2: enough on me rambling. Let's bring in our crew members
Speaker 2: and our guests. We have David Lesters. You guys know David, David,
Speaker 2: how you doing tonight?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm doing good, doing good. Like I said, Melissa,
Speaker 3: Melissa's under the weather. She's gonna be joining us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that's rough.
Speaker 3: Hi, everybody in cat.
Speaker 2: Game very cool. Yeah, David, we got a Tampa coming
Speaker 2: up ourselves in May. I am definitely looking forward to that. Uh,
Speaker 2: that should be interesting. That's if everybody who's signed up
Speaker 2: to go is still gonna go. I mean right now.
Speaker 2: That puts us up to a ramp fourteen people, if
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's gonna be more than what we normally
Speaker 2: have a camp. So but uh, David, yeah, if you, uh,
Speaker 2: if you're ready to bring our guests in, I'm ahead
Speaker 2: bring our guests in. Our guest is Dave Scott. Welcome
Speaker 2: to the fanal Dave.
Speaker 1: How you doing. Thank you for having me my man?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, And I do want to throw it out there.
Speaker 2: We do have a live chat. We're gonna watch the
Speaker 2: live chat the best we can. If there's questions, I'll
Speaker 2: pop them up on the screen or you know, we'll
Speaker 2: we'll address them as well. So but anyway, Uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see where this is gonna go tonight. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, the cold things that we're gonna get into
Speaker 2: that Dave's got going on. Uh but Dave, you know
Speaker 2: you're also a podcast host yourself, and you're an experience sir.
Speaker 2: You've got some activity going on on your property up
Speaker 2: in British Columbia, if I'm correct me, if I'm wrong,
Speaker 2: if I mentioned the right place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you're almost there. I am. I a host
Speaker 1: of spaced Out Radio terrestrial radio station show that also
Speaker 1: goes into a podcast form and obviously YouTube. I mean,
Speaker 1: nowadays with streaming you have to kind of get all
Speaker 1: the genres in there. But I have a radio background.
Speaker 1: I was a journalist for a number of years before,
Speaker 1: wanting to know what it was like to have food
Speaker 1: on my table and gas in my tank at the
Speaker 1: same time. So you can tell a job in radio
Speaker 1: really doesn't pay very well, but it is a love
Speaker 1: of passion rather than a love of finance for a
Speaker 1: job like that. But that being said, you know up
Speaker 1: here where I am in the Caribou region of British Columbia.
Speaker 1: So to put it on a map, if you're driving
Speaker 1: from Vancouver, it's about six and a half hours northeast
Speaker 1: into the start of the central part of the province.
Speaker 1: It is an area that is kind of situated in
Speaker 1: between the Cascade Mountains that run right into Washington d
Speaker 1: Washington State, Oregon in the northern part of California, and
Speaker 1: then on the east of me, about a couple hours away,
Speaker 1: there's the Rocky Mountains. So I'm kind of situated right
Speaker 1: in between in this little piece of heaven up here.
Speaker 1: And the one thing when I moved up here about
Speaker 1: a decade ago that I didn't realize is that this
Speaker 1: area was filled with legends of paranormal, supernatural, euthological, encrypted creatures.
Speaker 1: And over time I've learned this and it's been just
Speaker 1: a whirlwind of activity throughout the forests, throughout the sky,
Speaker 1: and throughout you know, the old gold Rush trail which
Speaker 1: our town sits on. So if you want to go
Speaker 1: back in history to around the eighteen forty five, I've
Speaker 1: mark we're going to start this story in Virginia City, Nevada.
Speaker 1: That's where the silver rush began. And then when the
Speaker 1: prospectors moved into Virginia City and then making their way
Speaker 1: into Reno and started making their way north, they started
Speaker 1: finding gold. Well, you know, if you get around eighteen
Speaker 1: forty nine when the gold rush takes off, and that's
Speaker 1: how the San Francisco forty nine ers got their name
Speaker 1: right from the forty nine ers gold Rush. And then
Speaker 1: that trail goes through the famed Oregon Trail that goes
Speaker 1: right into Washington State, which then crosses into British Columbia.
Speaker 1: And as you move north in British Columbia from where
Speaker 1: I am sitting right now in my studio about three
Speaker 1: quarters of a mile as the bird flies right behind me,
Speaker 1: is the gold Rush trail.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 1: So that trail, I will tell you, is haunted as anything. Okay,
Speaker 1: any part of that trail you can you could just
Speaker 1: sit there and wait for the ghosts to come to you,
Speaker 1: like literally, it's that great. And you know, I started
Speaker 1: I started kind of looking into the whole phenomena around here.
Speaker 1: Obviously with spaced out radio, that's kind of what I do.
Speaker 1: So you just kind of slowly when you move into
Speaker 1: a new community and don't know anybody, you just kind
Speaker 1: of slowly start peeking your head through everything, you know,
Speaker 1: just just to see if anybody has any stories that
Speaker 1: they want to share. And it's been very interesting, you know.
Speaker 1: I'm always asking, I'm always interested. I'm always talking to
Speaker 1: people daily who've been here, especially First Nations people and
Speaker 1: you know, logging truck drivers because we are a blue
Speaker 1: collar type community. I mean, there's only twenty five hundred
Speaker 1: people in the main town. I live about eight miles
Speaker 1: north of town, and you know, they're about eleven hundred
Speaker 1: of my community. We're not talking big numbers of people here,
Speaker 1: you know. So when you get to some of the
Speaker 1: old timers that have been here thirty five, forty five,
Speaker 1: fifty five years, you get some good stories. You really do,
Speaker 1: very interesting.
Speaker 2: Real quick, I do want to clarify, I have to
Speaker 2: I would even thinking, but just based off of a
Speaker 2: couple of things on Live Shat real quick. Yes, we
Speaker 2: go live every Friday night, but yes, I wasn't even
Speaker 2: thinking today's Saturday, and we scheduled Toady for Saturday in
Speaker 2: regardless to Dave Scott. So, yes, we are live right now.
Speaker 2: I guess I threw a couple of people off because
Speaker 2: of Saturday, and we normally go live on Fridays. But
Speaker 2: so yeah, I just want to clarify that and thank
Speaker 2: you guys for asking and pointing that out. But it
Speaker 2: is Saturday, and that's scheduled based off the day's availability,
Speaker 2: so today me.
Speaker 1: You can blame me for this one.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, we'll do that.
Speaker 3: But I think it was said in the intro that
Speaker 3: you are an experiencer. Yes, can you give a rundown
Speaker 3: on that. I'm not yet with Bigfoot unless you're talking
Speaker 3: about something else the.
Speaker 1: Big I was always a believer growing up. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do you mind if I take a little bit of
Speaker 1: a long road here.
Speaker 2: Hey going, yeah it this shows yours man.
Speaker 1: All right? Cool. So I I was a journalist for
Speaker 1: ten years. I quit Terrestrial Radio in twenty two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven. I like to say that I retired because
Speaker 1: it's so much better to say you're retired than quitting,
Speaker 1: you know. And in twenty eleven I had, you know,
Speaker 1: I had believed in stuff. I had seen a couple
Speaker 1: of UFOs, and I had worked in a haunted building
Speaker 1: and lived in a haunted house, so I was familiar
Speaker 1: with it. And you know, I remember going back in time.
Speaker 1: I always you know, you go camping with your buddies
Speaker 1: when you're teenagers, and you're like, you're sitting around the
Speaker 1: campfire and you say, you know, hey man, I would
Speaker 1: love to see a UFO. I'd love to see a ghost,
Speaker 1: and I'd love to see a Bigfoot. And at that
Speaker 1: time I'd seen two out of the three. I wasn't
Speaker 1: really a forest guy, even though I lived, you know,
Speaker 1: right in the heart of British Columbia where there's a
Speaker 1: lot of trees at Bigfoot talk around the Harrison River
Speaker 1: and Shahalis River, I mean Harrison Hot Springs. Everybody knows
Speaker 1: Harrison Hot Springs. Even if you don't know British Columbia,
Speaker 1: you've heard you're in the Bigfoot world of Harrison Hot Springs,
Speaker 1: you know. And I, you know, would go out sometimes
Speaker 1: we would go ATVing out there and but never really
Speaker 1: paid attention. It'd be one of those things, hey man,
Speaker 1: it would be cool to see a sasquatch or something.
Speaker 1: And in twenty eleven I had an experience that completely
Speaker 1: changed my life. My wife was all into this this
Speaker 1: woo woo stuff, you know, psychic ability, cleansing, the chakras,
Speaker 1: meditation and all of this stuff, and I, you know what,
Speaker 1: it was her thing. It really wasn't mine, so I
Speaker 1: didn't really buy into it. And then on December thirteenth,
Speaker 1: twenty eleven, that's when my life changed. Seven forty five pm.
Speaker 1: We were having an early Christmas for my daughter, who
Speaker 1: is going away with my ex wife's parents over Christmas
Speaker 1: in New Year's They were going on a Christmas cruise,
Speaker 1: so this was the only time that I would get
Speaker 1: to have Christmas with her, so I called all the
Speaker 1: family over. We did a Christmas just for her, and
Speaker 1: we did a you know, turkey up. I had about
Speaker 1: twenty people in my house. The Vancouver Canucks were playing
Speaker 1: the San Jose Sharks that night, and you know, because
Speaker 1: that's what you do in Canada in the winter, you
Speaker 1: watch hockey. And it was about seven forty five at night,
Speaker 1: and I was cleaning up my living room in my
Speaker 1: dining room with plates and dishes, helping with the dishes
Speaker 1: from just an incredible meal. The rest of the people
Speaker 1: are kind of crowded in my kitchen slash wreck room,
Speaker 1: area where the game was on, and my parents announced
Speaker 1: that they were leaving, and I remember being really pissed
Speaker 1: off at that because it's like, your granddaughter's going away
Speaker 1: for three weeks. We're not going to see her over Christmas.
Speaker 1: And this is a true story. Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 1: was more important to my parents because they had their routine.
Speaker 1: They loved their dancing with the stars, and as much
Speaker 1: as I disagreed with that, it pissed me off. Right.
Speaker 1: And so as I'm cleaning up my mom, who is
Speaker 1: at that time was a two time cancer survivor, she
Speaker 1: walks through the doorway or no, my wife comes against me. Sorry,
Speaker 1: my wife comes against me through the doorway and she goes, hey,
Speaker 1: your parents are leaving. So I'm pissed off. And when
Speaker 1: I'm pissed off, I kind of clam up. I put
Speaker 1: the glasses and the plates that I had in my hand,
Speaker 1: I put them on the table. Saw my mom on
Speaker 1: the other side of the doorway of the kitchen, and
Speaker 1: I go to give her a hug and say goodbye.
Speaker 1: You know, it was gonna be one of those lame
Speaker 1: hugs that you give, you know, when you're upset with
Speaker 1: your parents, but you know you got to hug them.
Speaker 1: You know, it was going to give her one of
Speaker 1: those lame hugs. And my mother had these beautiful blue eyes.
Speaker 1: And when I made eye contact with my mom, I
Speaker 1: walked through the doorway. Mom give me a hug, and
Speaker 1: I look at her and her eyes are jet black
Speaker 1: and her pupils are white.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: And as that is happening, I realize that there is
Speaker 1: no sound coming from the other room where everybody's doing
Speaker 1: the dishes, and the hockey game is on the television.
Speaker 1: There's eighteen other people in that area. And I kind
Speaker 1: of cocked my head to the right. I look at
Speaker 1: my mom and immediately I start getting sick to my
Speaker 1: stomach and want to cry. And my mom all of
Speaker 1: a sudden gets this look on her face like and
Speaker 1: she shakes her head, her eyes go blue. Sound on
Speaker 1: in the other room, everything goes back to normal. She
Speaker 1: gives me a hug, and in the meantime, I knew
Speaker 1: I was staring into the eyes of the angel of death.
Speaker 1: I just knew. People have asked me for years, how
Speaker 1: did you know. I can't explain it. I just knew, Okay,
Speaker 1: So I immediately after the hug storm right down the
Speaker 1: hallway to the master bedroom. My wife comes up. She goes,
Speaker 1: are you okay, And I'm like hypervandilating, crying. I said,
Speaker 1: I just saw the angel of death in my mother's eyes,
Speaker 1: like I was that matter of fact. And my wife
Speaker 1: is like, oh my god. She goes, well, go give
Speaker 1: your mam a hug, and your dad they're getting ready
Speaker 1: to leave. The doors already open. Pull yourself together, go
Speaker 1: give him a hug. We'll deal with this later. So
Speaker 1: that's what I did, pull myself together, rattled me, go
Speaker 1: get my mom and my dad a hug, and closed
Speaker 1: the door. A couple hours later, after everybody has left,
Speaker 1: my wife and I walk into the living room of
Speaker 1: our house and she moves our couch. We had a
Speaker 1: love seat and a tabe, a square table and then
Speaker 1: a couch. She moves a couch up to the table
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting on the love seat and she starts
Speaker 1: lighting all these candles on the table, white candles. I said,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? She goes, I just want you
Speaker 1: to sit back and relax, because I'm the journalist in
Speaker 1: me is now going through playing through my head. Okay,
Speaker 1: what happened here? Why did you see that? What did
Speaker 1: you see? So on and so forth. She's like, I
Speaker 1: just want you to relax, and I want you to
Speaker 1: tell me what you saw. I don't remember the next
Speaker 1: thirty eight minutes because what happened was I was given
Speaker 1: permission to remember snippets. I ended up channeling the Angel
Speaker 1: of Death. I had no idea what channeling was. Channeling
Speaker 1: to me was grabbing a remote control and flipping through
Speaker 1: the channels. Okay, no idea what it was. And he
Speaker 1: came through me and he said, you were not supposed
Speaker 1: to see me, but since you did, I'm here to
Speaker 1: give you an explanation on how to keep your mom alive.
Speaker 1: And I remember he said. He said that we needed
Speaker 1: as a family to start to start showing my mom
Speaker 1: more love, especially love, because we were all getting very
Speaker 1: frustrated with my mom. You know, she'd beaten cancer twice,
Speaker 1: but we didn't know the pain that she was in.
Speaker 1: You know, you'd call up my mom and it would
Speaker 1: be like it would be like hello, She'd answer the phone, Hello,
Speaker 1: Hey Mom, it's me. How you doing. Oh oh the pain,
Speaker 1: the pain. I'm in so much pain, And it would
Speaker 1: be like this is conversation after conversation, even a couple
Speaker 1: of years after she defeated cancer, and you know, we
Speaker 1: were all getting frustrated, and the Angel of Death said
Speaker 1: to me, your mother is really sick, and if you
Speaker 1: do not start treating her with more love and respect,
Speaker 1: I'm going to take her home. He didn't say Heaven,
Speaker 1: he didn't say hell. All he said was I'm going
Speaker 1: to take her home. So I did what I was
Speaker 1: supposed to do. I talked to my family about it,
Speaker 1: told him what I said. The only person I didn't
Speaker 1: tell was my dad, because even though my mom and
Speaker 1: dad at that time had been married for fifty no,
Speaker 1: forty two years, forty three years, my dad was a
Speaker 1: five census guy, you know, and he didn't buy that stuff,
Speaker 1: and so I kept it from him. I told everybody else,
Speaker 1: and I got another twelve years out of my mom. Right,
Speaker 1: my mom would have never met my son. And it's
Speaker 1: an emotional story, but it's a good story. And after
Speaker 1: that happened, Within two days of that incident, my house
Speaker 1: started becoming haunted and like we would be seeing ghosts,
Speaker 1: my kids would be seeing ghosts, hear things knocking around
Speaker 1: all the time. Never happened before that. And then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I started getting all these premonitions and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I need to do something about this, like
Speaker 1: what is going on? And so I ended up meeting
Speaker 1: a gentleman who became my guru. His name is Pascal.
Speaker 1: Just a monster of a man. You know, he's probably
Speaker 1: six foot four, about three hundred and forty pounds. People
Speaker 1: would look at him, yeah, big, big dude, And people
Speaker 1: would look at him on the you know, if you
Speaker 1: were to look at him walk down the street, you think, oh,
Speaker 1: that's just big, one, big chunky oaf. But he's brilliant
Speaker 1: and he when he shakes your hand, he lets you
Speaker 1: know how strong he is. Right, And so we set
Speaker 1: up a time for us to get together and we
Speaker 1: sat around. I was telling him what was going on
Speaker 1: and telling Hi about the channeling and all of this,
Speaker 1: and he goes, it's eleven thirty at night, and he goes,
Speaker 1: you want to go for a drive? Is you and me? Dave?
Speaker 1: Do you want to go for a drive? Like, dude,
Speaker 1: I got to work in the morning. He goes, so, what,
Speaker 1: what's the worst thing that happened? And you lose a
Speaker 1: couple of hours sleep, you have a napp tomorrow, Like
Speaker 1: that's just the way he talked. I said sure. So
Speaker 1: we hop into his car at about eleven forty. I
Speaker 1: put my seatbelt on him in the passenger seat, and
Speaker 1: he puts his hand on my back and I can
Speaker 1: feel his energy coming through this giant paw of a hand.
Speaker 1: And he asked me probably the biggest question I've ever
Speaker 1: been asked. He goes, how far down the rabbit hole
Speaker 1: do you want to go? And I foolishly said all
Speaker 1: the way because I thought it was going to be good.
Speaker 1: We were going to communicate with some ghosts and watching
Speaker 1: all this stuff on television, you know? And why not? Right?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 2: Did you regret that saying that?
Speaker 1: At times? I do?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: At times I do. I lost a lot of friends, dude, Like,
Speaker 1: because your good friends start thinking that you're nuts, you know,
Speaker 1: even though you're like showing them proof and evidence, like
Speaker 1: with the experience. Did you see that? Did you hear that?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: And it didn't matter what I did. I ended up
Speaker 1: losing some of my best friends over it. I have
Speaker 1: friends that I was One guy I was best friends
Speaker 1: with for twenty eight years he thought I went loco,
Speaker 1: which I did not. You know, I just developed a
Speaker 1: new sense of awareness, and yeah, best friend for twenty
Speaker 1: eight years gone, another best friend of tenures or twenty
Speaker 1: years gone, you know, because I moved into a direction
Speaker 1: that I needed to learn and they were not ready
Speaker 1: to understand. So from after saying how far down the
Speaker 1: rabbit hole do I want to go? And I'm saying
Speaker 1: all the way, I end up actually working with Pascal
Speaker 1: channeling a little bit more. He's working on my intuition.
Speaker 1: I'm fighting at every way that I can not really
Speaker 1: grasping or understanding. And after about a year or this,
Speaker 1: he's like, what do you want to see? And I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I really want to see bankfoot. He goes, great, tell
Speaker 1: me when I said, I don't know. I just get
Speaker 1: the feeling it's going to happen in July. This is
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, and it doesn't happen in July. And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden in September, we were at a
Speaker 1: friend's house and he had ten acres in the backwoods
Speaker 1: of our town and it backed it backed onto the forest,
Speaker 1: and he wanted to take me on a trail in
Speaker 1: his backyard because he had a paranormal experience there as
Speaker 1: a kid. And this was a family property that family
Speaker 1: had known for like forty plus years. And so we
Speaker 1: start walking on the trail and we come across this
Speaker 1: this bend in the trail, kind of like a chicane
Speaker 1: in the trail, and right at that chicane there is
Speaker 1: an eight a tree that is snapped at eight feet
Speaker 1: all this is a big tree, probably that round, okay,
Speaker 1: pretty thick, and it is snapped and it's fresh, and
Speaker 1: looking at it, the bark is still wet. And as
Speaker 1: we're talking, we're like, well, there was no windstorm last
Speaker 1: night or the last few days. There's nobody chopping trees.
Speaker 1: I mean like it looked like it had been pulled down.
Speaker 1: And in my extremely amateur way of understanding bigfoot, okay,
Speaker 1: I said, you know, sasquatch has apparently been known snap trees.
Speaker 1: And he's like, huh, cool, we got a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff happening on the property. Maybe it's sasquatch. And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, as we're looking at this tree,
Speaker 1: we start getting that feeling that we're being watched. And
Speaker 1: right from there we started looking around and about one
Speaker 1: hundred feet in front of us there's this big fur tree.
Speaker 1: Because in British Columbia, we get some nice old growth
Speaker 1: over here, and the canopy of that fur tree was,
Speaker 1: you know, making dark shadows in below. And but we
Speaker 1: could see a figure standing behind the tree and it
Speaker 1: was peering out, and then it would peer in, and
Speaker 1: then it would peer out again and peer in. And
Speaker 1: I said, Davy, my friend's name was Dave as well.
Speaker 1: Do you see that? He goes, yeah, I said, that's
Speaker 1: a shoulder right now. Wait, wait, he's going to peer out,
Speaker 1: watch and then peer out and back, then peer out.
Speaker 1: This went on for about five six minutes.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Because there was a lot of activity on the farm
Speaker 1: and Dave's fiance at the time was very, very spiritual,
Speaker 1: they had rules on the property. You could not be
Speaker 1: there to drink, okay, like if you were doing anything spiritual,
Speaker 1: there was no drinking, no marijuana, no nothing, okay. You
Speaker 1: had to be stone cold sober. No photographs allowed because
Speaker 1: she wanted whatever was there to know that they weren't
Speaker 1: being there for publicity. Okay, I mean, don't forget at
Speaker 1: that point. In twenty thirteen, Facebook is still young. You know,
Speaker 1: YouTube is still young. You know there's no TikTok, there's
Speaker 1: no Instagram, right, Well, I guess there would have been Instagram,
Speaker 1: but it was in the fledgling stage.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Social media wasn't a big thing, but you could see
Speaker 1: it building.
Speaker 2: Yeah, before I got on Facebook. I was before. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was on Yes until I discovered Facebook.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So Dave and I are standing there, We're seeing this,
Speaker 1: and Dave says, I think we should go. We should
Speaker 1: leave him around because we don't want to scare him
Speaker 1: off and we don't want to bug him to the
Speaker 1: point where he feels he can't come around with property. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we literally wave, we say thank you, we're going
Speaker 1: to go now, and we turn. So Dave turns directly around. Okay,
Speaker 1: so he does. If you're looking at Zoolander, he does
Speaker 1: the magnum and turns left. I turn to my right.
Speaker 1: And as I'm turning right, so if this one was
Speaker 1: straight ahead of me at high noon, as I'm turning
Speaker 1: to my right to turn back down the trail, I
Speaker 1: look and I see this tree branch shaking vigorously. And
Speaker 1: so if this guy's at noon, this guy's about seventy
Speaker 1: feet away, sixty feet away at about one o'clock one thirty,
Speaker 1: and I see this shaking of this tree branch and
Speaker 1: that's where I see the second one. Walk right through
Speaker 1: where that tree branch was shaking, and I got a
Speaker 1: full right side a back profile. It never looked at me.
Speaker 1: I only saw it from the waist up. Biggest thing
Speaker 1: I ever saw. It had the brownish cinnamon red hair.
Speaker 1: The one thing that was really impressive to me was
Speaker 1: the size of the shoulders and the fact that there
Speaker 1: was no neck. It was just shoulders, and then the
Speaker 1: up to the conacle shaped head. And he walked right away,
Speaker 1: did not look at me, nothing, And I was like, Dave,
Speaker 1: did you see the next one? Well, Dave's already about
Speaker 1: forty fifty feet down the path, and I, you know,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm going yellow belly because I
Speaker 1: got two sasquatch within one hundred feet of me, and
Speaker 1: they're big, and I start running down the trail. I mean, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm fat now, but back then, and I don't do
Speaker 1: things by years, I do it by pounds. And you know,
Speaker 1: back then, I could still sprint a little bit. And
Speaker 1: I ran down there to catch up to him. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, there was a second one. He didn't
Speaker 1: see the second one because he was too busy walking
Speaker 1: on the path, and so that was my first interaction
Speaker 1: with sasquatch, and it was an amazing experience. It was
Speaker 1: like it was a euphoric experience because I never thought
Speaker 1: I would live my dream of seeing a ghost, seeing
Speaker 1: a UFO, and seeing a Sasquatch and my love for that.
Speaker 1: I was still paranoid about eufology. I had seen the
Speaker 1: movie Fire in the Sky and I really didn't want
Speaker 1: anything to do with them aliens or UFOs. But that
Speaker 1: took off in twenty fourteen, and from there it just
Speaker 1: everything's happened. Man. Like, I'm what you call a multiple experiencer.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people, you know, everybody has
Speaker 1: critics in what we do. A lot of people will say, well,
Speaker 1: where's your proof, where's your evidence? And I say, I
Speaker 1: have my story and if you don't want to believe me,
Speaker 1: that's okay. I used to argue it, you know what,
Speaker 1: you don't believe me, I'm being honest with you. But
Speaker 1: nowadays of the cynicism of people and the dangers of
Speaker 1: how people are attacking others on social media, I just
Speaker 1: don't care anymore. You know what, if you choose to
Speaker 1: believe me, right, thank you, because I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 1: to yet. But if you choose not to believe me,
Speaker 1: well that's on you. I have nothing to prove to you.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, a lot of people don't want be taken out
Speaker 3: of the norm the day to day life. I'd greave
Speaker 3: one hundred percent on that. I you just tell you
Speaker 3: a story. If they want to listen and take in
Speaker 3: and maybe learn from it, that's one thing. But you
Speaker 3: can step back and criticize and want proof and people,
Speaker 3: you know, people, they got to understand it, a lot
Speaker 3: of proof that you're not going to get it because
Speaker 3: things happen on the spur of the moment. You're not
Speaker 3: gonna be to be prepared with any kind of camera
Speaker 3: equipment and let you know, prese it up or whatever
Speaker 3: to be able to capture stuff like that. And when
Speaker 3: it happens, it happens, and then it's over. Then you
Speaker 3: realize you got a camera in your hand, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean, and don't think for a second too, Dave,
Speaker 1: to add to what you're saying, because you're one hundred
Speaker 1: percent right. The phenomena if you look at it, like
Speaker 1: the biggest thing that I've learned over the last six
Speaker 1: seven years especially is bigfooting or cryptids are not separate
Speaker 1: from UFOs, which are not separate from the paranormal, which
Speaker 1: are not separate from any other part of the supernatural phenomena.
Speaker 1: There is this entire phenomena that is controlling this entire
Speaker 1: aspect of what's happening to people like you guys, to
Speaker 1: myself or whatever. And from that perspective, it makes sense
Speaker 1: to me that all of a sudden everything happened, you know,
Speaker 1: And that's when I started the radio show, and that's
Speaker 1: when I just started kind of moving forward with it.
Speaker 1: But the one thing, gentlemen, I want to subscribe here
Speaker 1: to you. I'm not a researcher. Okay, I'm an enthusiast
Speaker 1: because after ten years of doing spaced out radio, doing
Speaker 1: over two thousand interviews, the one thing that I've learned
Speaker 1: is semantics are really true. Okay. People use semantics to
Speaker 1: change what their definition of themselves is. Like, I get
Speaker 1: fired up when I see somebody who's never spent a
Speaker 1: day in journalism, but in our field, they're titling themselves
Speaker 1: as a journalist or an investigative journalist, you know, in
Speaker 1: covering the bigfoot story or the UFO story. No you're
Speaker 1: citing it for false creadibility. And the unfortunate part is
Speaker 1: your followers are going to buy into that well as
Speaker 1: a journalist, because I was never an investigative journalist. Okay,
Speaker 1: I take issue with that, I do, and so I really,
Speaker 1: I really want to specify that I am an enthusiast.
Speaker 1: I'm an experiencer. Last year I started a project called
Speaker 1: Flight twenty one, which I know, Daniel, you want to
Speaker 1: get into a little bit later that I started some
Speaker 1: very amateur and when I use the word amateur, I'm
Speaker 1: putting that in capital letters, amateur research in this area
Speaker 1: of Flight twenty one. And I enjoyed it. I really did.
Speaker 1: And so what do I do instead of getting ready
Speaker 1: for year number two of that? Well, I'm preparing for
Speaker 1: year number two of Flight twenty one, and I'm preparing
Speaker 1: to start my business here hunted one await.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, yeah, real quick. Before going a quick
Speaker 2: question on you from the web chat, they want to
Speaker 2: know if you know or from are you familiar with
Speaker 2: Thomas Steenberg, who is also located somewhere in the British
Speaker 2: Columbia area.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Thomas and I actually lived in the same town. Oh,
Speaker 1: ok and we never met. We've never We finally met
Speaker 1: at a conference a year ago or two years ago
Speaker 1: at a Bigfoot conference here in British Columbia, and that
Speaker 1: was the first time I had met him. But I
Speaker 1: had talked to Thomas, I had interviewed Thomas. He's a veteran.
Speaker 1: Thank him for his service. Do I agree with everything
Speaker 1: that he says about Bigfoot? No, but you know what,
Speaker 1: everybody is on their own path right with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never met him. I may have had some
Speaker 2: small brief chats here and near somewhere on social media.
Speaker 2: But yeah, my friend Nikki Cologne from Texas. Yeah, a
Speaker 2: few years back, she actually did a camp out with
Speaker 2: him and a couple of others up Washington State somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a nice man. Yeah, I do want to
Speaker 1: preface Thomas is a nice man. He's been every I
Speaker 1: haven't talked to him personally in years, but when I
Speaker 1: did call him prior, uh, he was always very very
Speaker 1: cordial and kind to me. So I've got nothing but
Speaker 1: respect for him.
Speaker 2: Cool, No, go ahead, Oh no, I was just gonna
Speaker 2: make mention because I know one time, probably about a
Speaker 2: week or so, a couple of weeks ago or maybe
Speaker 2: whatever one thing you mentioned about your property and your location. Uh,
Speaker 2: with everything you've already talked and shared about, you kind
Speaker 2: of described it as your own personal Skinwalker ranch. Basically, Yes,
Speaker 2: it's pretty much what you kind of boiled down.
Speaker 1: To, which I have sure, So that is Flight twenty one. Okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: it's not my personal property. So do you want to
Speaker 1: get into flight twenty one right now because it's a
Speaker 1: fun Oh?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, you start off.
Speaker 1: The Flight twenty one is Canada's largest unsolved mass murder.
Speaker 1: On July eighth, nineteen sixty five, there was a plane
Speaker 1: that took off from Vancouver, was heading north on a
Speaker 1: milk run to drop a bunch of people off in
Speaker 1: Prince George and then eventually making its way to the
Speaker 1: Yukon territory of city of white Horse, and when it
Speaker 1: was about twenty five miles southwest of my town, it
Speaker 1: blew up in the sky. There was a bomb on board.
Speaker 1: Now it wasn't a terrorist or anything like that. It
Speaker 1: is still Canada's largest unsolved mass murder. Fifty two people
Speaker 1: perished that day, from children to elderly to the pilots,
Speaker 1: and there was no survivors. Blew up in the sky.
Speaker 1: People were heard screaming as they were falling into the forest,
Speaker 1: and when the plane hit the ground it caused a
Speaker 1: forest fire. It took There was not even a single
Speaker 1: road cut logging road cut into the forest at that time.
Speaker 1: They had to cut in order to try and get
Speaker 1: to the location. They had to cut down trees and
Speaker 1: use backos and bulldozers in order to race out there
Speaker 1: to get a recovery cruise in there, like it's in
Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere. So in twenty eighteen, my friend Merle,
Speaker 1: who's with the paranormal road trippers, he's based out of
Speaker 1: just outside of Vancouver. He's like, hey, has anybody ever
Speaker 1: investigated like twenty one? No, I don't think So he goes,
Speaker 1: what do you say? We do it? Okay, let's go.
Speaker 1: So at that point I was not a firearms owner
Speaker 1: and so I was the driver. Merle was the paranormal investigator,
Speaker 1: and we brought a buddy of mine, Mark out to
Speaker 1: be our armed guard because in our area we have
Speaker 1: a lot of animals that want to kill you, okay, Like,
Speaker 1: for we have fifteen hundred pound moose running around, and
Speaker 1: moose are more dangerous than bears. Yet this is a
Speaker 1: grizzly bear territory, it's a black bear territory. There is
Speaker 1: mountain lions in that area, including one resident mountain lion.
Speaker 1: There are wild horses there, there's wolf packs there, there's badgers,
Speaker 1: like a lot of stuff that could kill you in
Speaker 1: the forest. And so when you go into that area,
Speaker 1: you go in armed and it's a very costrophobic area. Okay,
Speaker 1: it really is. And I want to see if I
Speaker 1: can m No, that's not going to let me. I
Speaker 1: should have prepared for this. I apologize. I have a
Speaker 1: little map of the area, but if you want to
Speaker 1: see what it's like, you can go on my YouTube channel,
Speaker 1: spaced Out Radio and look at Secrets of the Forest.
Speaker 1: We have a section and one of our playlists called
Speaker 1: Secrets of the Forest. Long, real quick.
Speaker 2: If you have an image you want popped up, if
Speaker 2: you can't get on, you send it to my messager.
Speaker 2: I could take it.
Speaker 1: I'll be digging for like five six minutes, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to kill the flow.
Speaker 2: Oh no problem, no problem. Yeah, I could have pumped
Speaker 2: it up on here. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So basically what happened there was we walk in into
Speaker 1: the crash site, we do the investigation, of the crash site.
Speaker 1: We believe we are still because nobody's ever come forward
Speaker 1: prior to that. We we believe we're the first one's
Speaker 1: ever to do a ghost hunt at the site. And
Speaker 1: so after about ninety minutes, Merle's like, hey, man, what
Speaker 1: do you say that. We go look around. Maybe there's
Speaker 1: some more debris around. Most of the plane is gone,
Speaker 1: but maybe there's some other debris or whatever. Let's go
Speaker 1: try it out. So we take this deer trail from
Speaker 1: the crash. We go into the trees and you know,
Speaker 1: we're ducking and diving branches, and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: it opens up to a meadow and so Mark says,
Speaker 1: you guys, head over to that older over there. I'm
Speaker 1: going to stay here. I got a good line of
Speaker 1: sight in case something any animal comes through. Not even
Speaker 1: thinking bigfoot. Man and Merle and I walk our way
Speaker 1: over to this, to this meadow and we look twelve
Speaker 1: o'clock north to us, and we start hearing.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: If I look at Merle, who's a cop by day job,
Speaker 1: and look at him, I said, did you hear that?
Speaker 1: He goes into cop mode? He goes here, what Dave?
Speaker 1: I said, did you hear that? Voice. He goes, yep,
Speaker 1: So I turned Mark is about thirty yards to our
Speaker 1: left and I turned it. Mark. Do you say something?
Speaker 1: He goes no, I said, did you hear that voice?
Speaker 1: That grumbling?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: It was me. So looking into the trees ahead of us,
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, who's there? Can you say? High back again?
Speaker 1: A couple of minutes later, didn't even put two and
Speaker 1: two together about the Sierra sounds. Didn't even put it together.
Speaker 1: We're thinking ghosts. Okay, we're in ghost mode. We go
Speaker 1: then there's nothing, everything's quiet. So we go back to
Speaker 1: the crash site. There's another piece of landing gear that
Speaker 1: used to be on the plane. It's in one section
Speaker 1: and then there's a little knowell that goes down into
Speaker 1: like a like a mini cul de sac. Okay, like
Speaker 1: when I say mini cul de sac, like you could
Speaker 1: turn one. You can turn a jeep around in it,
Speaker 1: but you ain't getting another big vehicle. You're gonna be
Speaker 1: doing the Austin powers pivoting of the vehicle to get
Speaker 1: another vehicle out of there. And Mark goes into that area. Now,
Speaker 1: my friend, Mark is probably the most brilliant outdoorsman I've
Speaker 1: ever met. This is a guy who's chased grizzly bears.
Speaker 1: He's been a wolf pack hunter, he's been a mountain
Speaker 1: lion hunter, he's been a hunting guide. He's done everything
Speaker 1: in the forest, knows everything. The guy is brilliant. So
Speaker 1: he's down in the in the little cul de sac Merle.
Speaker 1: I'm on standing on the knoll. Murle's just up for me,
Speaker 1: about about fifteen yards at the gear and he's setting
Speaker 1: everything up and then all of a sudden, all hell
Speaker 1: breaks loose in the branches behind him, and the tree
Speaker 1: branches are shaking, and he's hearing this huffing and puffing
Speaker 1: what sounds like footsteps, and he goes, I'm out, And
Speaker 1: I yelled to Mark, get out the bring the pointy
Speaker 1: stick over here, because there's a bear over by Mark,
Speaker 1: I mean by Merle. And Merle takes off past me
Speaker 1: and he's going down the trail and he's like, I'm
Speaker 1: out of here. I'm out of here. And at that
Speaker 1: exact point, Mark puts his backpack down and raises his
Speaker 1: rifle in front of them because there was something bipedal
Speaker 1: coming through the trees at him. So basically we were
Speaker 1: escorted out of the forest because we had the guy
Speaker 1: on the left. We had the guy who chased Merle
Speaker 1: out and the exitus in between we were escorted out.
Speaker 1: So this stuck with me for about eight months until
Speaker 1: I heard the Sierra Sounds again. And then I heard
Speaker 1: that part on the Sierra Sounds and I'm like, you
Speaker 1: gotta be kidding me. So I call up alone, like Merle,
Speaker 1: listen to this. He goes, Dude, that's like what we heard.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, the problem is this is from the
Speaker 1: mid nineteen seventies in California. He's like, no way, and
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, dude, like it's crazy, Like what is
Speaker 1: going on here? So it was it was something that
Speaker 1: we all of a sudden were like, Okay, well we
Speaker 1: have sasquatch in the area. We had a sasquatch encounter. Cool. Cool,
Speaker 1: go back there to the site a couple more times
Speaker 1: looking for paranormal stuff. Merle comes up and visits, We
Speaker 1: go back there. Nothing really happened. In twenty twenty, it
Speaker 1: just was bugging me a little bit, so I decided
Speaker 1: to put a gifting site up there, and I got
Speaker 1: I went to the Dollar store, bought a bunch of
Speaker 1: kids toys, including a little mini rubber basketball, and in
Speaker 1: my extremely unscientific way, one day I saw the basketball
Speaker 1: and moved. I picked it up, and I saw there
Speaker 1: were fingerprints on it, and in my extremely unscientific way,
Speaker 1: I was trying to take a picture of it. I
Speaker 1: got a couple photos of it. And then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, my hands were cold because it was like
Speaker 1: minus five degrees celsius, and so that would have been
Speaker 1: about twenty five degrees. And I started to drop my
Speaker 1: phone and I brought my phone and the ball up
Speaker 1: to my chest and the ball came in hands first,
Speaker 1: or handprint first, and rubbed off on my jacket. I
Speaker 1: was pissed off, really pissed off because I had these fingerprints.
Speaker 1: I got the photo, got the photo, but I wanted
Speaker 1: to take that ball home, and I wanted to maybe
Speaker 1: have it analyzed, right because it was greasy. It wasn't dirty,
Speaker 1: it was greasy, right, And that was just odd. So
Speaker 1: I know there's a question coming in.
Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, right there. It just popped up. Had Mark
Speaker 2: or Merrow ever seen a sasquatch before that time near
Speaker 2: in the crash fight?
Speaker 1: No, No, they hadn't. Now Mark was an extreme skeptic
Speaker 1: of sasquatch. Extreme He's like, dude, I've been in the
Speaker 1: forest for you know, since I was a kid. If
Speaker 1: anybody would have seen anything, I would have seen something.
Speaker 1: And we hear that all the time from hunters. But
Speaker 1: if you were ever out of mark and watched him
Speaker 1: track an animal, you could you could see. I remember
Speaker 1: one time we were stepping we were walking out of
Speaker 1: the trees one day where we found us. I had
Speaker 1: seen a sasquatch print prior we were walking under the trees.
Speaker 1: And he goes, oh, the horses were here, wild horses
Speaker 1: were here. And I'm looking down in the moss. I'm
Speaker 1: not seeing a damn thing, Like where, How do there's
Speaker 1: no prints here? He goes, sure there is, and he goes,
Speaker 1: very faintly, you could see the front part of a hoof,
Speaker 1: but the moss had already come up. But it was
Speaker 1: just like that much, you know, like just minuscule. In
Speaker 1: metric we'd say millimeters. I don't know what that that is,
Speaker 1: and in americanized uh measurement, yeah, you know. I I
Speaker 1: stop at an inch maan, I don't know what comes before,
Speaker 1: you know, But that's why everything's bigger in the US,
Speaker 1: you know. So and he was like, yeah, there's the horse.
Speaker 1: And then I would look at him, I don't see
Speaker 1: it that He'd get on his knees and he would
Speaker 1: point there, sure enough, that's where it was. So with
Speaker 1: Mark in twenty sixteen, we had found a footprint about
Speaker 1: a fifteen inch track and it was beautiful, you know,
Speaker 1: nice and wide. You could see the dermal ridge of
Speaker 1: the side of the foot coming down to the heel.
Speaker 1: And in twenty seventeen we had a real dry summer
Speaker 1: that led to forest fires and we had a lot
Speaker 1: of area burn And so when we were back I
Speaker 1: met Mark in twenty seventeen, like after the evacuation order
Speaker 1: was rescinded and we were allowed to go back home.
Speaker 1: We were evacuated for like ten twelve days. Nothing scarier
Speaker 1: than wondering if your home is going to burn down
Speaker 1: or not. I'm like, hey, you know, so do you
Speaker 1: believe it or you know? He pulls into my driveway
Speaker 1: because we had a mutual friend, and he's he's like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to meet you know, listening to your
Speaker 1: show while the forest fires were going on. I just
Speaker 1: want to say thank you kept me comfortable. He had
Speaker 1: even that bigfoot. Yeah, I do, man, I've seen too,
Speaker 1: and he's like, man, he goes, I just I don't
Speaker 1: believe it. I don't believe I've spent too much time
Speaker 1: in the forest. He said, you want to go see
Speaker 1: a footprint. You're sure because the ground had dried so
Speaker 1: much that the footprint that was from that we found
Speaker 1: in October had dried out right in the forest that
Speaker 1: was still there. So I took him to that print
Speaker 1: and he went down on one knee for about fifteen
Speaker 1: twenty minutes, and all he was saying was I can't
Speaker 1: believe this, Like what is this? I can't believe what
Speaker 1: I'm seeing. And I'm just laughing at him, right and
Speaker 1: he's like, I can't believe this, Like where did what
Speaker 1: made this? And I'm like, dude, that's a sasquatch print.
Speaker 1: He goes, I know, but it's not supposed to exist.
Speaker 1: He goes, but that's a footprint. He goes, there's the toes,
Speaker 1: there's the dermal ridges, and like it flipped them out,
Speaker 1: and I was he was addicted to it right from
Speaker 1: that moment. And then our area you can't cast. You
Speaker 1: cannot cast in our area. Certain areas you can. But David,
Speaker 1: the the grounds here are so are so dry. Uh
Speaker 1: like our our dirt doesn't hold water very well up here, Okay,
Speaker 1: And so what happens is when you find a footprint,
Speaker 1: you're only seeing the top of it. There's the most
Speaker 1: of the time when you see a print here, we
Speaker 1: don't get a full indentation. We just get the outline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I've seen that for myself.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: It depends like you, yeah that in the terrain. The terrain.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and uh, our area is very volcanic. Go back
Speaker 1: a million years. I'm living in a where I'm sitting
Speaker 1: right now is a volcanic lake. And so the ground
Speaker 1: here is when when the water goes, the water goes
Speaker 1: and it sinks in and then you you know, give
Speaker 1: you an example, Mike, I got snow in my backyard,
Speaker 1: but I've got ten fir trees in my front yard,
Speaker 1: and the fur trees have already sucked up all the
Speaker 1: snow water. And my grass in my front yard already
Speaker 1: looks like it's it's a summer burnt grass, right. That's
Speaker 1: how That's how quickly it dries out here. I would
Speaker 1: I would love to have taken more prints. But Mark
Speaker 1: finally saw a sasquatch with me and my son and
Speaker 1: another friend in twenty twenty two. That bugger was at
Speaker 1: a ten footer. We don't know how he left. We
Speaker 1: just know that he vanished. He was about eighty yards
Speaker 1: away from us and he vanished. I have no idea
Speaker 1: how he left. Four of us were staring at him,
Speaker 1: and he vanished like poof. He was gone like one second,
Speaker 1: like for ten fifteen, No, probably probably a minute or two.
Speaker 1: He's there and then he kneeled down, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden he was gone.
Speaker 3: It's like a common denominator between the vast majority of sightings.
Speaker 1: In that case, if he would have went to his
Speaker 1: left our right, he'd have went down into a marsh
Speaker 1: which he would have had to climb over a bunch
Speaker 1: of fallen dead birch trees which would have made noise
Speaker 1: when he stepped on him. If he went to his
Speaker 1: right our left, he would have to cross the logging
Speaker 1: road and go up in embankment about six seven feet high,
Speaker 1: before getting up on the upper tier and running off.
Speaker 1: If he went backwards, we would have seen him fade
Speaker 1: into the darkness because it was night out when we
Speaker 1: saw it. Okay, And if he came forward, well, obviously
Speaker 1: we would have seen that he was standing in that classic,
Speaker 1: that classic Sasquatch pose and then he kneeled down and boom,
Speaker 1: he was gone. Did he crawl his way out maybe?
Speaker 1: Or did he vanish? Maybe? Who am I to say?
Speaker 1: I don't know, We don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: That's what question we all wanted to try to get
Speaker 3: answers for.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But getting back to Flight twenty one. In twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: I put the gifting site up and the sight. I'd
Speaker 1: been there a few years between a few times between
Speaker 1: twenty twenty and twenty twenty three. Twenty twenty three, we
Speaker 1: actually had a a camera crew come with us for
Speaker 1: an investigation there, and it was an independent company. Some
Speaker 1: friends of mine from the US came up and they're like, man,
Speaker 1: we want to film this location. Okay, let's do it now.
Speaker 1: The footage has never been released, it's never went anywhere,
Speaker 1: but it got real. It got very real. Flight twenty
Speaker 1: one is a smorgas board of paranormal activity. It started
Speaker 1: off on the Friday night where we walked away from
Speaker 1: main camp. We put glow sticks up in the tree
Speaker 1: so we could find our way back, and we walked
Speaker 1: into this meadow, and I don't hear very well. I
Speaker 1: got a lot of tenatus for my years of wearing
Speaker 1: headphones in radio. But Merle, our psychic Samantha and a
Speaker 1: couple people from the film crew kept on hearing male
Speaker 1: and female voices just loud enough to hear, but not
Speaker 1: enough loud enough to make out what they were saying.
Speaker 1: We're in the middle of the forest, like twenty five
Speaker 1: twenty six miles into the forest. Guys, we're not near civilization.
Speaker 1: There's not It's not like you know, when when you
Speaker 1: go out in my area of BC. It's not like
Speaker 1: going you know, down your local logging road or forest
Speaker 1: service road and you see motorcycle, you know, guys on
Speaker 1: dirt bikes or ATVs and maybe they pulled their trailer
Speaker 1: up in that area and they're camping. It's not like
Speaker 1: that up here. There's not the population for it. And
Speaker 1: it's scary, like it is scary dark at night. And
Speaker 1: so we start hearing something moving around us, and once
Speaker 1: again we have an arm guard there because of bears,
Speaker 1: because of the wolves, mountain lions. And Merle turns, and
Speaker 1: Merle seems to be getting some activities taking the lead
Speaker 1: on this. He goes, after seeing this big shadow, he goes,
Speaker 1: if you're over there out there, can you go to
Speaker 1: the tree and pull down the glow stick. And then
Speaker 1: about five minutes later we hear this rumbling by the
Speaker 1: tree and the glows. We watched the glow stick come
Speaker 1: down about a foot and a half. That was scary.
Speaker 1: It was cool. It was scary, though, And we go
Speaker 1: back to camp and we start doing Do you know
Speaker 1: what the estest method is?
Speaker 3: Ye, I'm not familiar with it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So the estest method is a paranormal technique where
Speaker 1: you put somebody under a blindfold and you you get
Speaker 1: rid of their cells. You put noise canceling headphones on,
Speaker 1: so all you're hearing is a radio signal going tick.
Speaker 1: And then you put a band like a bandana or
Speaker 1: a blindfold on right, so that way you're depriving your
Speaker 1: senses to hope other senses come on. So they sit
Speaker 1: me down on this log and I go under and
Speaker 1: I'm not hearing anything, like there's no voices, no nothing,
Speaker 1: but on the side of my head, I see this
Speaker 1: in the blindfold. Okay. I have my eyes open in
Speaker 1: the blindfold, and I see this bright white orb like
Speaker 1: it's right here, and it's so bright inside the blindfold
Speaker 1: that I actually have to close my eyes to block it.
Speaker 1: And then, like a ticker tape parade, you know, a
Speaker 1: ticker tape, I'm watching these alien gray heads kind of
Speaker 1: go like around me. Then it turned into reptilian type eyes.
Speaker 1: And so I'm saying to the guys, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: not hearing anything, but I'm going to tell you what
Speaker 1: I'm seeing. And I start describe that orb. And one
Speaker 1: of our camera guys, the director has a psionics camera,
Speaker 1: and our armed guard pats him on the shoulder says, hey,
Speaker 1: look up. And as I'm describing this white orb above
Speaker 1: us in the sky, there is this white orb hovering
Speaker 1: there and it starts coming down towards the trees. And
Speaker 1: I've never seen this footage, but it's been described. And
Speaker 1: it comes and as it comes down, it goes from
Speaker 1: an orb to like a hula hoop shape, and then
Speaker 1: eventually as it hits the trees, it dissipates cool and
Speaker 1: this is where I'm I'm I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: I'm just seeing this white orb in here. The next day,
Speaker 1: shit really hit the fan. That's where I got really cool.
Speaker 1: On day two of our of our investigation out there,
Speaker 1: it was about seven forty five at night, and I
Speaker 1: start getting the feeling that we're being watched. So I
Speaker 1: call my psychic friend over, Samantha, and from base camp.
Speaker 1: We walk probably fifty feet down the path and I said,
Speaker 1: I there's something over here, Samantha, there's something over here.
Speaker 1: And we're talking. She's like, well, what do you think.
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know, like I'm running through my
Speaker 1: rolodex of energy, and I said, I think it's alien.
Speaker 1: I really think it's alien. And Samantha is a lifelong
Speaker 1: et contact d And all of a sudden, under our feet, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: it starts. Remember we're in the middle of the forest.
Speaker 1: There is no pipeline, there is no electricity, there's no
Speaker 1: cell phone signal, there's nothing. We're in a dead zone.
Speaker 1: And we start feeling vibration under our feet, like literally
Speaker 1: if you put a vibrator in the ground and then
Speaker 1: stood on top of it. Okay, that that feeling. I
Speaker 1: get it. We call the director and the two camera
Speaker 1: guys over, and the one cameraman cannot feel it. He's
Speaker 1: still he's an ex marine. He's wearing his jump boots
Speaker 1: that he that he films in and the souls are
Speaker 1: too thick, not feeling it. And as we're having this conversation,
Speaker 1: Merle takes off down the path paths pass us and
Speaker 1: then so if you imagine the trail, you know, base
Speaker 1: camps up here, we come down and then we go
Speaker 1: this way. It's like a ninety degree angle. So Merle
Speaker 1: goes down that ninety degrees and everybody's like, where's Merle? Man,
Speaker 1: where's Merle? Because we had a rule nobody goes off alone.
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, way off in the distance,
Speaker 1: you hear Merle nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, no, no,
Speaker 1: and he walks he's speed walking back. Well, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Why did you go? All the crew is all like,
Speaker 1: hey man, we told you there's no there's no taking
Speaker 1: off alone here, like we don't know where the animals
Speaker 1: and I calm them down and I say to Merle,
Speaker 1: I said, what was with the nope nope, nope, nope nope,
Speaker 1: And he says, something whistled at me. So in the
Speaker 1: feeling where I was getting that there was something in
Speaker 1: the trees staring at us, so if this once again,
Speaker 1: this is base camp up here. I'm thinking we're down
Speaker 1: here in this area of trees here. Merle is down
Speaker 1: here on the other path. I hope you can understand
Speaker 1: my fingers there, and he gets whistled at. Okay, so
Speaker 1: we all walk over that way. We start walking, and
Speaker 1: we walked past where he got whistled at, walked down
Speaker 1: at probably another thirty yards, and way off in the
Speaker 1: distance to the west, we hear this one tone roar,
Speaker 1: and that roar lasted about fifteen seconds, and it was
Speaker 1: one tone, and a lot of ranchers in our area
Speaker 1: use the forests around here to re arrange their cattle. Well,
Speaker 1: whatever roared, and I know it wasn't a bear. We
Speaker 1: know it wasn't a mountain lion. No, it wasn't a wolf, okay,
Speaker 1: And everybody's like, oh my god, what that is sasquatch.
Speaker 1: We start hustling back to camp because we want to
Speaker 1: get back to camp because like, okay, the knight's about
Speaker 1: to take off here and we as we're walking back
Speaker 1: to camp on the straightaway. So remember we're like this,
Speaker 1: we're over here, and camp is up here. We get
Speaker 1: probably forty yards from the turn to go up the
Speaker 1: trail like as the crow flies. From here to where
Speaker 1: we were is maybe fifty yards, but to walk it
Speaker 1: you have to take the long scenic route. And as
Speaker 1: we're walking from our base camp, we hear this gutturall girl,
Speaker 1: and it's like vibrating in us, and we're thinking, oh God,
Speaker 1: there's a grizzly bear at our base camp. No other way.
Speaker 1: We have one gun to protect seven people, and we've
Speaker 1: got thirty thousand dollars worth of camera equipment sitting there.
Speaker 1: All of our food is there, all of our beverages,
Speaker 1: all of our supplies are there, and we're freaking out.
Speaker 1: So we start hustling and I'm looking through to trees
Speaker 1: towards base camp to see if this creature, this bear
Speaker 1: is going to come through. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: as I'm walking, something about twenty yards in front of
Speaker 1: me into the trees catches my attention and it's this
Speaker 1: big brown thing and it's matt shit brown color, and
Speaker 1: then I realize that there's no hair on it. I
Speaker 1: stop and I'm like, there's no hair on that. That's
Speaker 1: not a big foot, Okay, what is that? And it
Speaker 1: had a shape of an outside number eight, just a
Speaker 1: number eight if you were to draw the outside of
Speaker 1: an eight. And I'm looking at this and the way
Speaker 1: the sun is hitting it. The sun is hitting the
Speaker 1: top corner of the this thing, whatever it is, And
Speaker 1: what what's matt brown color? Well, it's yellow, orange, green,
Speaker 1: black and white. That's what makes brown. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's metal. So I stopped the team. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: the hell is that? And I'm pointing at it. It's
Speaker 1: only twenty yards away through the trees, like you can
Speaker 1: see it, there's an opening there, and they're like, what
Speaker 1: is what I said? That brown thing over there? What
Speaker 1: is that? Six other people could not see it. They're
Speaker 1: like where where right there? Like like, if I'm pointing
Speaker 1: at you, Dave, right on the screen, you're right there.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking at twenty yards away. They can't
Speaker 1: see it. So they start moving over because one of
Speaker 1: the people in our group said there's something moving over here.
Speaker 1: So they moved to the left down the trail and
Speaker 1: six of them see alien grays walking through the trees.
Speaker 1: I walk over. I'm like, where where I want to
Speaker 1: see this? I want to see this. I didn't see them.
Speaker 1: They're like, it's right there doing the same thing right
Speaker 1: there behind that tree. That one's it's peering out right now,
Speaker 1: I can't see it. How come I was able to
Speaker 1: see the UFO but not the aliens, but six others
Speaker 1: could see the aliens and not the UFO. So we
Speaker 1: go back to care. All this calms down, go back
Speaker 1: to camp. We're all kind of freaked out in a
Speaker 1: good way. And none of our stuff has been touched.
Speaker 1: There's no bear prince, there's no animal prints nothing. I think,
Speaker 1: as weird as this may sound, and I have trouble
Speaker 1: saying it, I think there was a Sasquatch at our
Speaker 1: camp that warned us about the UFO in the forest
Speaker 1: and the aliens in the forest. And that's what that
Speaker 1: prowl was about. And the other thing I want to
Speaker 1: add to that was last year friend of mine, Lee Strauss.
Speaker 1: You got to get him on your show. He's great,
Speaker 1: Lee Strauss. I showed him where the UFO was. He
Speaker 1: brought out his Geiger counter and there was still radiation
Speaker 1: coming off the moss and the saplings that were there.
Speaker 3: Mm hm wow. A couple of months ago I bought
Speaker 3: a god encounter just for that, based on stuff that's
Speaker 3: been happening on us during our campbount to give us
Speaker 3: another tool to be able to use while we're out
Speaker 3: in the field.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was just about to bring that up, and
Speaker 2: I'm I'm anxious to see if it. If it does,
Speaker 2: pick a readings on that, which would I think it's
Speaker 2: gonna be very interesting.
Speaker 3: If it does, it'll be an ongoing thing and it
Speaker 3: will be a one time thing. We'll have it at
Speaker 3: every camp out. I'll have it. You know, you never
Speaker 3: know what's gonna pop up, win and work. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's just another tool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh uh Dave, David. There is a question
Speaker 2: uh on here from Robert Roberts asking that Dave, have
Speaker 2: you ever been struck by lightning? I heard him, okay,
Speaker 2: because he goes on to say, I have heard some
Speaker 2: people who see sasquashed numerous times, haven't hit by lightning.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of that before. That's that's interesting.
Speaker 1: So and no, I have not. I know last year
Speaker 1: when we were in our spot at Flight twenty one,
Speaker 1: we almost got hit by lightning. Oh I got a
Speaker 1: great video of that my YouTube channel. But no, I
Speaker 1: have not. Flight twenty one last year we started investigating it,
Speaker 1: researching it once again on an amateur, amateur way, and
Speaker 1: it really opened my eyes to what's out there, because,
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm not a researcher. We don't how
Speaker 1: it started with. That was going into winter of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four, probably November. The place started haunting me and
Speaker 1: I could see the location of the little cul de
Speaker 1: Sac and it was like I would get these little
Speaker 1: clips in my head. When are you coming back? We're
Speaker 1: waiting for you, When are you coming back? I was like,
Speaker 1: this place is haunting me right. And I had a
Speaker 1: friend of mine, Nelson Dallis, who's the five time United
Speaker 1: States memory champion. The guy could remember anything. He just
Speaker 1: knows how to work his brain. And he tried to
Speaker 1: summit Mount Everest four times and every time he didn't summit,
Speaker 1: he'd have dreams about the mountain calling him back. And
Speaker 1: so Flight twenty one was kind of doing that to me.
Speaker 1: And so I got a hold of my buddy Tim
Speaker 1: and I said, Tim, this is my idea. I think
Speaker 1: we need to investigate Flight twenty one. It's not about
Speaker 1: the crash site. Okay, we leave the crash site alone.
Speaker 1: The crash site I think is the cause. But the
Speaker 1: question is what is the effect to everything else that's
Speaker 1: happened there, the UFOs, the aliens, the Bigfoot. Okay, and
Speaker 1: almost immediately we started getting interactions. We had tree knocks
Speaker 1: from about forty yards away if that we found. Probably
Speaker 1: one of the funniest stories was one of them snuck
Speaker 1: up on us and was ripping ass about thirty yards
Speaker 1: away from us in the trees. And if you've never
Speaker 1: heard a bigfoot fart, it's hilarious, it is. And we
Speaker 1: ended up finding the droppings of that. Here's the screwed
Speaker 1: up part about the droppings. I went back. We found
Speaker 1: the droppings in late octote August. My last visit there
Speaker 1: before the snow started falling was in mid November, and
Speaker 1: the droppings hadn't decomposed. They're still sitting there. I'm curious, Like,
Speaker 1: right now, we're in wintertime here, there's too much snow
Speaker 1: to get up there. But I come May when I
Speaker 1: start heading out there again, I'm very curious about how much,
Speaker 1: how much, how many of those droppings are still there.
Speaker 1: We did take a sample of them. We do have
Speaker 1: a sample. I'm just not giving it away to anybody.
Speaker 1: I want to make sure. I've talked to a couple
Speaker 1: of friends of mine who are anthropologists. We're trying to
Speaker 1: find the right scientists who I can send it to
Speaker 1: because you just don't you know, you just don't want
Speaker 1: to release it. That might be that might be the
Speaker 1: only Sasquatch dookie you ever find. If it is.
Speaker 3: Sasquatch you about missing and never hear from it again.
Speaker 2: Oh go ahead.
Speaker 3: No, I'm going to say, as far as flight twenty one,
Speaker 3: has anybody else been out there doing any researching? Or
Speaker 3: are you all the first ones that you know of.
Speaker 1: We're the first and only ones that we know of.
Speaker 1: Other people that have dabbled around there but never done
Speaker 1: done a hardcore.
Speaker 3: Are you planning on making a documentary on what you're
Speaker 3: doing out there or are you not?
Speaker 1: For your own information, I'm filming a series called Secrets
Speaker 1: of the Secrets of the Forest. It's on my YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: It's very amateur, it's very basic. Okay, there isn't smooth editing,
Speaker 1: there's no there's no music in the background that pipes
Speaker 1: up when when you know things are happening and we're
Speaker 1: just showing you what what we've we're seeing, we're.
Speaker 3: Keeping it real. You're not flowing it up like that.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's exactly what we're doing, Dave, exactly.
Speaker 3: We keep real we're not putting a bunch of music again,
Speaker 3: and we're not ad living, We're not doing any of
Speaker 3: that stuff. You get what you get it.
Speaker 2: We feel we filmed and documented as much as we're
Speaker 2: able to capture absolutely, you know, and then we just
Speaker 2: got we just started getting on a live I mean
Speaker 2: on a streaming network. You know, it's not like other
Speaker 2: people's stuff. It's not for entertainment. If you if you're
Speaker 2: looking to fire a big boarder in a video, you're
Speaker 2: not gonna yeah, I mean, if we fortunate day, that's right.
Speaker 3: But well you say you're not really a researcher, but
Speaker 3: it sounds me like the more you dabble in this
Speaker 3: becoming one.
Speaker 1: You know what, it's funny because you may.
Speaker 3: Not get into a real hardcore, but you're you're taking
Speaker 3: enough with you to be able to extract some information
Speaker 3: from it.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you though, man, I have so much fun there,
Speaker 1: and look, I have been scared there. The one night
Speaker 1: we we had either a when to go or a
Speaker 1: skin walker trying to lure us into the forest. Man
Speaker 1: that that was an eye opener. That was scary because
Speaker 1: way off in the distance. If I keep hearkening on
Speaker 1: this fact that if people actually know how deep into
Speaker 1: the forest we are and how there isn't a population,
Speaker 1: because the majority of people who listen to this type
Speaker 1: of show, they've never been deep in a forest, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know, they may have gone
Speaker 1: through a little forest near their town, or maybe you know,
Speaker 1: went for a drive out in the wilderness to see
Speaker 1: if they could see any deer or bears or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then they go a few miles in. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: turn back. You know, the road's getting a little rough
Speaker 1: or whatever. But we are twenty five miles in Okay.
Speaker 1: Like when you drive in there, man, you don't see cars.
Speaker 1: There's no traffic, there's no people. You're out there even
Speaker 1: when I'm out there hunting. Okay, if you see five
Speaker 1: cars literally, and this is kind of the attitude of
Speaker 1: the area. If you see five six cars and your
Speaker 1: day you're like, oh, this area is being over hunted.
Speaker 1: I'm out of here.
Speaker 3: Well, Roberts kind of question out here, you're I think
Speaker 3: you're a better ready to answer that. Now you say
Speaker 3: you drive back about twenty five miles when you get
Speaker 3: to where you're going to park at How far is
Speaker 3: it from where you park to the craft site.
Speaker 1: Luckily, if you have a four by four a certain type,
Speaker 1: like if you have an ATV or you have a
Speaker 1: a jeep like I do, you can get in there.
Speaker 1: A Toyota four Runner will get in there. A Nissan pathfinder.
Speaker 1: You need four by four. You need good tires because.
Speaker 3: You drive up to the side of silf or you
Speaker 3: have to park and then walk. Uh.
Speaker 1: If you don't have four by four, you you could
Speaker 1: get to a certain point. Then there's a gully you
Speaker 1: need to go through a pretty steep gully up and there.
Speaker 3: It's accessible by vehicle. Then okay, that's what the question is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you need a you need a good like
Speaker 1: I don't know if a truck could handle it, like
Speaker 1: an F one fifty because or any or a bigger
Speaker 1: truck because the trail is really narrow. But at a
Speaker 1: TV side by side the je a Bronco something along
Speaker 1: the that are built for that that outdoor type of trail,
Speaker 1: you can. But I mean where the where the crash
Speaker 1: sight is is about three to five miles from the
Speaker 1: main logging road and you're on a goat trail like
Speaker 1: every time you think, man, this trail won't end, You're right,
Speaker 1: it doesn't end until it ends.
Speaker 3: From your last research, you say, you're going to be
Speaker 3: going back at there again. From your experience on the
Speaker 3: last time, the first time you were there, have you
Speaker 3: put together a game plan on how to approach it
Speaker 3: the next time?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, good. That's actually an excellent question because my
Speaker 1: main research partner, Tim is no longer in investigating this year.
Speaker 1: He's had some brain trauma stemming from too many concussions
Speaker 1: back in our younger, stupider days, and so he had
Speaker 1: to give it up. I've totally assembled a new team here.
Speaker 1: Merle will come up every now and again, but Merle
Speaker 1: lives four and a half hours from me, so it's
Speaker 1: not like we're easy accent here. I'm assembling. It's funny
Speaker 1: you mentioned this because right after I'm done this show,
Speaker 1: in about twenty minutes, I have to go down to
Speaker 1: my local museum where my new potential team is sitting,
Speaker 1: and I'm meeting them, and we're having a meeting for
Speaker 1: the first time. So we're going to be going out there.
Speaker 1: The mistakes that we made last year, we know there
Speaker 1: were times when we didn't have a camera running. That's
Speaker 1: when things happen. We need more than two researchers, and
Speaker 1: there were only the two of us. We need at
Speaker 1: least for four to six people up there per investigation
Speaker 1: because there's too much territory, too much going around, So
Speaker 1: we need more, but not much more. Like you don't
Speaker 1: want to bring in too many people in there to intimate.
Speaker 1: But you all, I know we're going to have to
Speaker 1: rebuild trust, okay, because of all the new faces that
Speaker 1: are going to be there. One thing I will say
Speaker 1: the way I research it over anybody, over many others,
Speaker 1: I don't chase them. I let them come to me.
Speaker 1: They're curious, they're like housecats, they can't help themselves. I
Speaker 1: let them come to me. Why do I need to
Speaker 1: pull the Todds standing, put on a gilly suit and
Speaker 1: run thirty miles, you know, down a trail that's only
Speaker 1: ten miles long. I don't need to do that when
Speaker 1: they're going to come to me and I I think.
Speaker 3: That's the best way to approach it. I know you
Speaker 3: mentioned I got to go ahead a little bit. But camping.
Speaker 3: We met Daniel about five years ago. We've had paranormal
Speaker 3: membolists all of our life and stuff, So I'm with
Speaker 3: you on that. I expect that's too much to get
Speaker 3: into now. But I retired from the Army of ninety
Speaker 3: eight I retired from the local sheriff's office here in
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. And my mindset is I got the analytical
Speaker 3: mind on one answer, so basically what I've experienced growing
Speaker 3: up with that I haven't seen Bigfoot yet, but I've
Speaker 3: always watched that stuff on TV and the shows. But
Speaker 3: with that said, when we met up with Daniel approximately
Speaker 3: five years ago, now that I'm retired, we could get
Speaker 3: out in the woods and I could start pursuing this
Speaker 3: and my list is out there with us. And first
Speaker 3: couple of years we camped out at Elkhorn Lake bigfoot
Speaker 3: research and I mean, that's your primary intent. Then we
Speaker 3: switched over to another area we've been out there for
Speaker 3: the last three years, went out there and gain in
Speaker 3: this next year and getting on the line letting it
Speaker 3: come to you, we're out there looking for evidence of bigfoot.
Speaker 3: You basically anythink critic, but pretty much bigfoot. This past
Speaker 3: summer we wasn't looking for it, but multiple people in
Speaker 3: the group we got strange recordings. Radio is going dead
Speaker 3: coming back alive multiple I just won several radios of
Speaker 3: various times. We've seen an or mount in the woods
Speaker 3: about forty yards away, just a little bit off the ground,
Speaker 3: a Vantaghman and Daniel seen for about four or five seconds.
Speaker 3: And that's just a highlight of some of the things
Speaker 3: that we encountered this past summer during the last two campounds.
Speaker 2: We wasn't looking for it. Yeah, we want to know.
Speaker 3: Why that's happening, and we're still going to research Bigfoot.
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. In Daniel's mindset from the get
Speaker 3: going on in Bakefoot after this last summer, now he's
Speaker 3: his mind shifting into a little bit Now what else
Speaker 3: is going on here? And it's all primitive, no powers.
Speaker 3: People don't live out there. There's old homestead stuff out
Speaker 3: there that's got a big history. Just to cut it short.
Speaker 3: But it came to us. We did not go looking
Speaker 3: for it, even though we were trying to research big
Speaker 3: for it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm went.
Speaker 3: On that aspect. Let it come to you.
Speaker 1: Absolutely fascinately, absolutely, my man. Yeah, with with our sight
Speaker 1: out at flight twenty one, it is a little bit
Speaker 1: rugged out there. Like my wife and I we even
Speaker 1: talked about this is gonna sound really odd. The place
Speaker 1: has to clear you in order for you to be there.
Speaker 1: Like we've brought people in there who've been there before
Speaker 1: and we got nothing that night. The minute that person leaves,
Speaker 1: and the next time we're there, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: everything explodes again. But it was rare last year that
Speaker 1: we didn't find fresh footprints. Here's one for you. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever seen this. We saw two
Speaker 1: of these prints about ninety yards apart. One in the
Speaker 1: middle of a trail right in the middle of the forest,
Speaker 1: another on a trail right in the in an opening,
Speaker 1: and it looked like a giant duck print about the size.
Speaker 1: So if you took a size of a basketball and
Speaker 1: put it in the dirt with it, that looked like
Speaker 1: the shape of a duck print. So you take that
Speaker 1: big duck print, two of them ninety yards apart, and
Speaker 1: guess the stupidity of my amateur ways forgot to take
Speaker 1: a picture of them.
Speaker 3: We all do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't feel that. Don't feel that day.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm learning, That's all that is.
Speaker 3: I'm learning, right, Even the experts or we're going on
Speaker 3: this from time to time. Well, there's no experts in
Speaker 3: this field, don't get me wrong on that, but people
Speaker 3: to go out and actually do expert filming and all
Speaker 3: kinds of projects, not just this. They're going to this
Speaker 3: stuff from time to time. I let you got something
Speaker 3: running twenty four hours today, seven days a week, three
Speaker 3: hundred and six degrees. You're not going to catch the
Speaker 3: with them? Yeah, well you could just tell you he
Speaker 3: want to buy all fund oft the can If they
Speaker 3: don't want to buy all fund of well that's old, lim.
Speaker 3: I got no eagles to a hurt or feelings to
Speaker 3: bruise or anything like that, you know. I mean, I
Speaker 3: just tell it the way it is, what we experienced,
Speaker 3: and they take it for what it's worth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's It's like the location I'm going to investigate
Speaker 2: next week. I'm meeting up with a good friend fellow
Speaker 2: researcher in Pennsylvania and the area we're going to be
Speaker 2: camping in and investigating. He has found fourteen inch tracks
Speaker 2: that have free long agated toes with a with a
Speaker 2: rounded heel that looks like a human. Now, I've dissected
Speaker 2: these images and compared him to every other known species possible.
Speaker 2: I even I even went along the lines to present
Speaker 2: them to Keen g Are you know I have communication
Speaker 2: with Ken Lyle. They're great guys, they're good friends. Ken. Now,
Speaker 2: of course he wouldn't go on record on film because
Speaker 2: you know, he said he would have charged you that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he charges people. Oh that's interesting.
Speaker 3: They're similar, but it's more narrow. Yeah what Daniels talking about.
Speaker 3: That's yeah.
Speaker 2: I wish I had him to pull him up here.
Speaker 2: But these were like the closest I can probably resemble
Speaker 2: or compare them to shoot. I can't really compare them nothing.
Speaker 2: I mean, Tien Geerhart said they were alligator track, except
Speaker 2: you know from Pennsylvania the people had and they escaped
Speaker 2: over the years. These do not have alligator heels. These
Speaker 2: have rounded heels like a human, and three toes that
Speaker 2: were very long. Yeah, I mean, I mean the closest
Speaker 2: I can resemble. You know. I was actually a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, I was talking to my father earlier about
Speaker 2: this and I showed him Dad a picture and Dad's like, oh,
Speaker 2: those are some kind of bird. I said, well, that's
Speaker 2: what I think too, But they are not any known
Speaker 2: bird species that we know that exists today. Now, the
Speaker 2: only thing I can compare it to is a pterodactyl,
Speaker 2: you know, right, it's the closest thing that was known
Speaker 2: to live and exists in this world, is a pterodactal track.
Speaker 3: And but what I was saying, what I was thinking,
Speaker 3: is on that when you first send me those pictures.
Speaker 3: I looked at him, Daniel, if you remember saying some
Speaker 3: of the older Werewolf movies going the cracks right, their long,
Speaker 3: narrow rounded heel and with three to four toes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, free toes. They look like fingers.
Speaker 3: Right here, maybe those on TV sometimes, the older movies,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what they were.
Speaker 1: I got a guy, Daniel, I got a guy. Do
Speaker 1: you know, uh, he write this down, he goes, He
Speaker 1: goes on YouTube by cryptid five fifty nine.
Speaker 2: Crypt Yeah, he.
Speaker 1: Is a friend of mine from California. His name is Javier.
Speaker 1: If you if you message Javier, he's on Facebook at
Speaker 1: cryptid five five nine. He actually had a close encounter
Speaker 1: on the ground with a pterodactyl. Really he might be
Speaker 1: able to to help you out with that.
Speaker 2: And again that's cryptid what five.
Speaker 1: Nine like Gary code five five nine. Here is the
Speaker 1: I don't know if you could see that, but that's
Speaker 1: the droppings. Yeah, that we found after the farting incident.
Speaker 2: Hey, hold that up here, I'm gonna enlarge it real,
Speaker 2: go ahead, put that back up there. Give me a second.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna large photo. Okay.
Speaker 1: So here's the interesting part. Okay, this is what this is,
Speaker 1: my buddy, Tim, this is where we found the droppings
Speaker 1: inside the trees. Animals don't back their asses up into
Speaker 1: the trees. Drop a deuce. M hmm, right, and give
Speaker 1: me two seconds. Here, where are we here? Here's one
Speaker 1: of the prints. Like I was telling you earlier, Like,
Speaker 1: there's one of the prints right there. Okay, that's about
Speaker 1: a fifteen inch print. And here's something really interesting for
Speaker 1: you guys. A psychic lady friend of mine. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know her. Her name is Robin Haynes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, name doesn't be kind of familiar.
Speaker 1: Well, one day she tells us when we're going in,
Speaker 1: she's like, do yourself a favor, take some pictures of
Speaker 1: the trees. They're in the trees watching you. So Tim decides,
Speaker 1: because he's my cameraman, he decides to take that photo.
Speaker 1: And you'll see he put a yellow circle on there.
Speaker 1: So when we zoom in on that yellow circle. This
Speaker 1: is where it gets really cool.
Speaker 2: Looks like a faith right there.
Speaker 3: That's him, Yeah, right there, dead center. You can see
Speaker 3: the lifts, nose, eyes. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very interesting.
Speaker 1: And what's really cool about that we know the tree,
Speaker 1: We know the trees that he was in, and we
Speaker 1: couldnot recreate that photo. We tried. We tried on two
Speaker 1: separate occasions. We even waited for the time, the exact
Speaker 1: time of day to try and recreate it, because you
Speaker 1: have to you have to go backwards. Okay. So for instance,
Speaker 1: if if say, say tonight, we took that photo a
Speaker 1: week from now, we would have to go back at
Speaker 1: a different time to try and balance out the sun
Speaker 1: ship on the and the angle from the sun, you know,
Speaker 1: because it changes. Right. So yeah, that's flight twenty one man.
Speaker 1: Lots of weird.
Speaker 3: Do you want to take out any infrared or ir
Speaker 3: thermos or infrared? Oh yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: Okay, I had you know what. We took it out
Speaker 1: last year and we actually filmed a ghost walking behind chairs,
Speaker 1: like you could see it like a blue image of
Speaker 1: a ghost just kind of like sitting on one of
Speaker 1: the lawn chairs moving. It was kind of cool. It's
Speaker 1: on our Secrets of the forest.
Speaker 3: I think you set out all the recorders, that's lend
Speaker 3: record overnight.
Speaker 1: No, because I don't usually go back there two days
Speaker 1: in a row.
Speaker 3: Oh you'll you'll stay overnight then?
Speaker 1: Oh no, I stayed the night there once before. Never again,
Speaker 1: never again? No, no, too dangerous.
Speaker 3: Well I'll what the every thing you got up? I
Speaker 3: dont understand why on that?
Speaker 1: Yeah I did. Did you want to talk about haunted
Speaker 1: one oweight?
Speaker 2: I was just about to bring it up. I didn't
Speaker 2: know how much time you have left, but yeah.
Speaker 1: I got to I got about twelve minutes.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let's go ahead do that because I know
Speaker 2: that's that's part of what I want to hear from you.
Speaker 2: Let's learn about that.
Speaker 1: Haunted one Awight is at our local museum, which I'm
Speaker 1: head to right after I get off the air with you,
Speaker 1: and it is considered one of British Columbia's most haunted locations.
Speaker 1: It's a collection of old buildings from our Caribou region
Speaker 1: that we've brought together in our area to try and
Speaker 1: try and bring some of the history out. And what
Speaker 1: we've done here is the museum is one of the
Speaker 1: only museums in the province that is not government funded,
Speaker 1: so it relies on donations and everything, and we're one
Speaker 1: of the biggest donators about Haunted one OW eight. So
Speaker 1: what happened here was I decided to start a small
Speaker 1: company called Haunted One Away, where we're going to turn
Speaker 1: the site into a paranormal adventure. We have ghost tours,
Speaker 1: we have paranormal investigations. We are in the process of
Speaker 1: turning the main house into a haunted bed and breakfast,
Speaker 1: and we figure with the money that we can generate
Speaker 1: from this as it builds and as time goes on,
Speaker 1: the money that we can generate from this will help
Speaker 1: keep the museum going for a long time. So it's
Speaker 1: a real important project, not only for history but for everything.
Speaker 1: And what a lot of Americans don't understand, and rightfully
Speaker 1: so is British columb during the Gold Rush was just
Speaker 1: like the wild wild West in New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada
Speaker 1: and California. It was crazy, okay, And most of the
Speaker 1: villainous folk heroes, you know, whether it was Jesse James
Speaker 1: or Billy the Kid or Billy Minor or the Kentucky Cannibal,
Speaker 1: they all came up here to rob people. Right. And
Speaker 1: so we have a couple of spirits on the on
Speaker 1: the property that are that are well known. We have
Speaker 1: one one lady who is called Angnes mcvee, where it's
Speaker 1: alleged that she killed sixty two prospectors on their way
Speaker 1: back down for their gold and buried their bodies all
Speaker 1: over the place. I mean, is it true. We don't know.
Speaker 1: Many people believe it is, other beliefs, it's just a legend.
Speaker 3: The location been featured anywhere before. You're all first one
Speaker 3: doing it.
Speaker 1: We were really the first ones to do it, to
Speaker 1: set up the tour. It has been on a couple
Speaker 1: of Canadian television shows. One of the shows was aired
Speaker 1: in the US. So you can see my fat ass
Speaker 1: in that in that little document. And but we have
Speaker 1: one guy. We have a Clyde Stale barn Daniel. If
Speaker 1: you can bring up on Facebook Haunted one oh eight,
Speaker 1: if you could, or I can or here I think
Speaker 1: I can share screen.
Speaker 2: Yeah you should, Yeah, you should be able to have
Speaker 2: the option screen show.
Speaker 1: All right, let me just my Facebook here because all
Speaker 1: you're going to see is hockey right now. Yeah, go figure.
Speaker 1: I know this is one of my favorite captures. Guys. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to show you a couple of my favorite captures.
Speaker 1: Here there is where is the video? Okay, so if
Speaker 1: we take this video here back in fast forward. So
Speaker 1: this barn right here is what we call the Clydesdale Barn.
Speaker 1: It was built in one hundred or probably nineteen oh
Speaker 1: eight for Captain Wilson. Captain Wilson died in World War
Speaker 1: One at the age of thirty five, but he loved
Speaker 1: his Clydesdale's and at one point he had over one
Speaker 1: hundred of these. Now, this log built barn is about
Speaker 1: seventy yards long. I can't wait. It's my favorite building.
Speaker 1: I'll actually be in it tonight. And we have ghosts.
Speaker 1: We've had ghost horses in the in the barn. But
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen I captured a ghost photo. And in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four somebody had posted a picture of Captain Watson.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to see, but you can see
Speaker 1: this is about to go. This is that one. In
Speaker 1: a second, let me find the Captain Watson video. Here,
Speaker 1: where is it? Where to go? Should be in here?
Speaker 1: There he is. So that's Captain Captain Jeffrey Lancelot Watson.
Speaker 1: I've reported seeing the twenty nineteen. I caught this photo
Speaker 1: right here. You can you can see the image of
Speaker 1: a face. I'm hoping you can see that.
Speaker 3: Yep, pretty clear too.
Speaker 1: Now here's the creepy part. Guys. If you don't believe
Speaker 1: the paranormal is real, check this out. Oh wow, that's
Speaker 1: where it gets cool. Guys. Like you can see the
Speaker 1: military hat. You can see the darkened eyes, the same nose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a sigh profile on the face like a
Speaker 2: collar two on a jacket.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's Captain Watson.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: And then the other one I want to show you
Speaker 1: this could be. This to me is one of the
Speaker 1: greatest photos ever taken.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, we were doing a ghost tour and
Speaker 1: we had a school teacher come out. If I play this,
Speaker 1: will the audio go through?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I got muted right now, but yeah, I mean I
Speaker 2: could hear the audio on my hand, So that's okay. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you want me to unmute it?
Speaker 1: Here we play this? Do we have time?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, Yeah, it's playing right now.
Speaker 1: I mean. Back in twenty seventeen, a lady named Connie
Speaker 1: was on the one to eight mile ghost Tour with
Speaker 1: her friend because her friend was really into the paranormal
Speaker 1: television shows and didn't want to attend the tour alone.
Speaker 1: So grudgingly, Connie came along and agreed to go with
Speaker 1: her friend to keep her company. Connie, a retired school teacher,
Speaker 1: didn't believe in the parent normal, thought it was all malarkey,
Speaker 1: but figured she would make her friend happy by taking
Speaker 1: the tour with her. During the tour, patrons are encouraged
Speaker 1: to take photos three in a row, in fact, to
Speaker 1: see if they can capture something anomalous. When Connie's group
Speaker 1: was touring the upstairs of the Captain Watson Barn, she
Speaker 1: took three photos of the catwalk. Little did she know
Speaker 1: this skeptic would capture one of the best paranormal photos
Speaker 1: ever seen. Now, what makes this photo special is due
Speaker 1: to safety, people on the tour are not allowed to
Speaker 1: go up the stairs onto the catwalk. Yet here was
Speaker 1: this figure who only appeared on one of the three
Speaker 1: photos Connie had taken, standing there staring back at her.
Speaker 1: When Connie checked her photos, imagine her surprise to find
Speaker 1: this photo on her Samsung phone. Zoomed in, you can
Speaker 1: see the deep, dark eyes and what looks to be
Speaker 1: a deep, long scar running down on this figure's forehead.
Speaker 1: It's an uncomfortable photo for certain. This wouldn't be the
Speaker 1: first time this entity has been photographed. He photo bombed
Speaker 1: a second on the ground floor of the barn. It's
Speaker 1: hard to see, but you can see the white face
Speaker 1: with the pronounced scar running down his forehead. This ghost
Speaker 1: spirit entity has been seen almost every time on the
Speaker 1: catwalk during our ghost tours. Chances are if you come
Speaker 1: on the tour you'll see them for yourself. This is
Speaker 1: Haunted one a weight back in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3: Fascinating. Yeah, that's fascinating.
Speaker 1: That dude knows how to attack people. I've been attacked
Speaker 1: by him twice. Wow, it's not fun. Not fun. We
Speaker 1: made a deal though. He keeps our patrons safe, but
Speaker 1: we keep We make sure that he always has whiskey
Speaker 1: and cigarettes and nobody goes up on his cap walk
Speaker 1: and nobody photographs them.
Speaker 2: WHOA, yeah, yeah, that's quite fascinating here. So so the
Speaker 2: haunted went away that with that cabin you know that
Speaker 2: that yeah, that is that what you call a cabin
Speaker 2: or or stall or.
Speaker 1: No that that was that one was in the in
Speaker 1: the Clydesdale barn. We got eleven buildings. We do five
Speaker 1: buildings on the tour, okay, and you know we're setting
Speaker 1: up a like a paranormal destiny And people can go
Speaker 1: to Haunted one oweight dot com or on Facebook Haunted
Speaker 1: one oweight to get in touch with us. If they're
Speaker 1: traveling to you know, from western side of of the
Speaker 1: US and they're traveling up the old Alaskan Highway, you
Speaker 1: have to pass the museum stop in. You know, we
Speaker 1: we're going to have things happening quite frequently there where.
Speaker 1: You know, if you add a day or two on
Speaker 1: your vacation on your way to Alaska or coming back,
Speaker 1: you can catch something and you know we're gonna get
Speaker 1: in the house. We're going to get a bed and
Speaker 1: breakfast going, you know, so that way, how often do
Speaker 1: you get a chance to do a haunted bed and breakfast?
Speaker 1: And the best part about it for our American listeners
Speaker 1: is that you're paying in Canadian dollars, So right now
Speaker 1: the exchange rate is I believe for one American dollar
Speaker 1: it's a dollar thirty nine Canadian. So if you're actually
Speaker 1: saving a lot of money by hanging on out and
Speaker 1: having this paranormal adventure with us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, David, that sounds like something we'll have to plan
Speaker 2: in the future if we can get out there affordable.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I want to see you guys here, but I
Speaker 1: do have to get going, gentlemen, because I have to
Speaker 1: get to the museum to make my meeting at the
Speaker 1: top of the hour, and thankfully the museum is only
Speaker 1: about a five minute drive away. But I appreciate you, guys,
Speaker 1: and thank you for the time and.
Speaker 3: A pleasure meeting you. Great talk discussion.
Speaker 1: And thank you guys for your service. Daniel, Uh, you're
Speaker 1: not allowed on my show until you grow your beard back.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean we'll see, we'll see. I mean, I
Speaker 2: got you can't see on camera right now.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I know, buddy, I'm just giving you a
Speaker 1: hard time.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: Let's get you rescheduled for a Friday night on my show.
Speaker 2: Okay, that sounds good. That sounds good. So yeah, as
Speaker 2: long as I'm not scheduled to be out in the woods,
Speaker 2: I mean I could definitely do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me know, because I know it's getting to
Speaker 1: that busy time. Much love, guys, Thank you very much,
Speaker 1: and I really appreciate this opportunity to chat with you. Guys.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we definitely got to get you on here again
Speaker 2: though for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, anytime I me.
Speaker 2: You were an awesome guest, and thank you and having
Speaker 2: good time tonight by the way.
Speaker 1: So appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Take care and gentlemen, yeah take her all right, all right,
Speaker 4: well this has been a great night man, Thank you David,
Speaker 4: and I'll be in chat with you in touch soon.
Speaker 3: Thanks everybody for being a cat tonight.