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<v Speaker 1>You with the tongue out.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta say your name, Garlie what.

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<v Speaker 3>Generally nothing underwood right.

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<v Speaker 4>Charlie was born January ninth, nineteen eighty two. She is

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<v Speaker 4>the second child to us, and she came five weeks early.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder sometimes if she maybe knew her time here

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<v Speaker 4>would be short, and so she was anxious to get here.

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<v Speaker 5>Jarlie was always happy and always had a small on

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<v Speaker 5>her face. The last time I saw Jerily was at

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<v Speaker 5>the evening meal. I probably told her I love her

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<v Speaker 5>and that I see her in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's last time.

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<v Speaker 5>We saw her. Joyce and I were outside doing stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Somebody had tried to get ahold of us. She saw

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<v Speaker 5>Jarily get in a car. We immediately called the police.

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<v Speaker 2>We dispatched a patrol officer. We realized that we were

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<v Speaker 2>ideally with an abduction.

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<v Speaker 3>At least two witnesses say they saw man jump out

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<v Speaker 3>of the car, grabbed Jerily, shut her back in the car,

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<v Speaker 3>and took off.

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<v Speaker 7>As time went on, the hours and days went on,

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<v Speaker 7>and we became more concerned that this would be not

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<v Speaker 7>just an abduction, but probably a murderer.

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<v Speaker 8>The police never really told me they were looking for

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<v Speaker 8>a stranger.

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<v Speaker 5>He saw how Jerly carried herself, how confident that Jarley was,

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<v Speaker 5>and he took that told stranger.

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<v Speaker 7>He used his handgun and shot her twice in the head,

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<v Speaker 7>which caused her to die almost instantly. He was a

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<v Speaker 7>sexual psychopath, a sadistic rapist, kind of murderer.

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<v Speaker 4>Jerley was very loving, love to take care of people

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<v Speaker 4>and be kind.

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<v Speaker 5>Took care of her siblings really well.

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<v Speaker 4>Always had a smile on her face.

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<v Speaker 6>I remember her doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>It was summertime, so Charley was out of school. She

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<v Speaker 4>was eleven years old. Jerlie and her brother Jamen started

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<v Speaker 4>a newspaper route in September of ninety two. The route

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<v Speaker 4>was real close to our home, so her and her

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<v Speaker 4>brother could walk. We talked a lot about safety and

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<v Speaker 4>not talking to strangers, and we knew a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>the people in the neighborhood, a lot of their customers,

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<v Speaker 4>we knew who they were.

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<v Speaker 5>Earlier that day, we had a little bit of a rain,

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<v Speaker 5>but at five point thirty in the evening, it was clear,

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<v Speaker 5>sun was shining, nice and warm, just a beautiful day.

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<v Speaker 4>She had an orthodonist appointment, and then after that appointment

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<v Speaker 4>came home and got ready to deliver their papers. They'd

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<v Speaker 4>roll them and then put an elastic band around them

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<v Speaker 4>put them in their newspaper bags. She expressed that she

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to take her bike. I had a flat tire,

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<v Speaker 4>so I went outside to fix her tire so that

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<v Speaker 4>she could take her bike. And when I came back

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<v Speaker 4>in to tell her as ready, she had already left

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<v Speaker 4>go deliver her papers. Our neighbor came over. We were

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<v Speaker 4>outside working in the garden and so she couldn't call us,

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<v Speaker 4>so she came over to our house and told us

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<v Speaker 4>that Gurley had gotten into a car with somebody.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, at first we thought that Gurley maybe had gotten

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<v Speaker 5>a ride home because there was another neighbor that would

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<v Speaker 5>give her a ride.

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<v Speaker 4>Since she wasn't home, we went looking for her, went

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<v Speaker 4>around trying to find out where she had been, which

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<v Speaker 4>houses she'd been to.

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<v Speaker 5>When we found out that she had been pushed into

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<v Speaker 5>the car, that's when we become really really concerned that okay,

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<v Speaker 5>well if she got pushed in the car, then somebody's

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<v Speaker 5>taken her.

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<v Speaker 4>Immediately found the police.

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<v Speaker 7>We sent out two detectives to respond to the call.

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<v Speaker 7>Because it was called in not as my kid's missing,

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<v Speaker 7>it was we believe we've had an abduction of a

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<v Speaker 7>young girl. I was assigned as a lieutenant in the

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<v Speaker 7>detective Division. I was immediately very concerned. My heart sank.

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<v Speaker 7>It put me into panic mode, basically because I wondered,

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<v Speaker 7>if this is real, this doesn't sound good. We've got

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<v Speaker 7>in touch with the Chief of Police, Jim Denham, and

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<v Speaker 7>explained what was going on. We got a location where

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<v Speaker 7>Jury Lee was allegedly abducted from, which was on the

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<v Speaker 7>west side of town. That's a residential area.

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<v Speaker 5>As a parent, I was always praying that I could

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<v Speaker 5>be guided and directed where I needed to go to

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<v Speaker 5>try to find Jery had no idea of what to do.

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<v Speaker 7>We had an elderly lady that lived on the corner

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<v Speaker 7>that had just paid Jerily for her newspaper subscription, and

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<v Speaker 7>as she moved about the inside of her house, she

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<v Speaker 7>had to look out the window to the side of

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<v Speaker 7>her home. She observed the mail from the car suddenly

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<v Speaker 7>grabbed Gerily and forced her into the driver's side of

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<v Speaker 7>the car to the passenger side that he then quickly

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<v Speaker 7>jumped in the car and sped from the area.

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<v Speaker 2>The detectives obtained the description of the vehicle and a

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<v Speaker 2>partial description of the individual, white male, approximately five seven

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<v Speaker 2>to five foot eight, wearing a plaid shirt and a cap.

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<v Speaker 7>The detective phoned the information into dispatch, and that's what

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<v Speaker 7>we put out to the patrol units and immediately dispatched

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<v Speaker 7>it to air units. We got a description from the

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<v Speaker 7>parents of what she was wearing, and that she had

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<v Speaker 7>her newspaper bag, a canvas newspaper bag that fits over

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<v Speaker 7>the shoulders, and a little bag that she carried her

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<v Speaker 7>money in.

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<v Speaker 4>Jeff went looking for her. I stayed at home. I

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<v Speaker 4>expected her to just come around the corner anytime and say, Hey, Mom,

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<v Speaker 4>what tip I got? Look how much tip I got today,

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever. I just kind of stood out the front window,

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<v Speaker 4>just kind of waiting or waiting for a phone call,

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<v Speaker 4>hoping that she'd be home quickly.

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<v Speaker 8>I was at a boy scout camp and I was

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<v Speaker 8>contacted by one of my counselors.

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<v Speaker 3>I was horrified.

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<v Speaker 8>I knew the Underwood, I knew Jeri Lee, and my

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<v Speaker 8>first thoughts were, what can we do to help. We

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<v Speaker 8>knew that the sooner that we could get the word out,

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<v Speaker 8>the better.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone on that department was looking at every corner we

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<v Speaker 2>could find, trying to find a car, trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>anything that looked unusual, anybody or a car that was

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<v Speaker 2>out of place. I mean, there were eighty sets of

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<v Speaker 2>eyes looking ever at work.

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<v Speaker 7>A few hours later, we ended up getting a modified

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<v Speaker 7>description from another witnessed. This gentleman was pretty sure it

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<v Speaker 7>was a General Motors product, five or ten years old,

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<v Speaker 7>medium sized sedan with a darker roof and a yellowish

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<v Speaker 7>or light beige or cream colored body. And a typical

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<v Speaker 7>abduction if it's a young girl that's involved. Usually the

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<v Speaker 7>perpetrator they're thinking something devious involving the young lady, and

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<v Speaker 7>usually they want to go somewhere fairly close but remote

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<v Speaker 7>to do any kind of a sexual attack or anything

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<v Speaker 7>like that. We covered those areas outside of town ten

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<v Speaker 7>miles south east and west of Pocatello to see if

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<v Speaker 7>we could find anything. We didn't see any vehicles anywhere

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<v Speaker 7>near close to matching that description that we could stop

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<v Speaker 7>and investigate further. We had no luck.

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<v Speaker 6>That first night was just so hard.

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<v Speaker 5>Joyce and I held each other, cried tears in her eyes.

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<v Speaker 5>It was just really really hard.

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<v Speaker 7>We worked through the night strategizing and try to come

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<v Speaker 7>up with a game plan of what we're going to

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<v Speaker 7>do and how we're going to find her as quickly

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<v Speaker 7>as we could. Time was of the essence.

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<v Speaker 2>The decision to assign the investigation to Scott Shaw was

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<v Speaker 2>made by myself, Captain Lenn Harris, said Lieutenant Kirk Nelson.

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<v Speaker 7>The Department had sent him to a number of specialized

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<v Speaker 7>training schools dealing with violent crimes and he took a

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<v Speaker 7>great interest in that, so it was decided that he

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<v Speaker 7>was to be the lead on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the years, we've learned that, unfortunately, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>first things you always look at is family.

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<v Speaker 7>Statistically, nationwide abductions, in this manner, the perpetrator knows the victim,

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<v Speaker 7>and you always want to look closely at the family

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<v Speaker 7>dynamic and see if anything sticks out there that we

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<v Speaker 7>need to pay additional attention to.

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<v Speaker 4>That was really disheartening to think that, you know that

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<v Speaker 4>we would be the ones that would try and hurt

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<v Speaker 4>her or do something to her. It's not a pleasant experience.

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<v Speaker 1>How are they? How?

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<v Speaker 4>May I think?

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<v Speaker 8>Have a wonderful happy bandna.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody knew that Jeff and Joyce Underwood were very very

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<v Speaker 2>involved in their church. Members of their church begin to

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<v Speaker 2>appear from nowhere to assist them. Becomes fairly obvious that

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<v Speaker 2>they're pretty well respected. We kept looking. We interviewed neighbors,

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<v Speaker 2>We interviewed everybody we could find that knew anything about

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<v Speaker 2>the family, what the relationship was, and that decision was

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<v Speaker 2>made that the family was not involved.

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<v Speaker 4>The police had to rule out that she didn't have

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<v Speaker 4>a boyfriend, or that she hadn't run away from home

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<v Speaker 4>because of trouble here at home. Charlie didn't have a boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 4>She was eleven years old. You know, not many eleven

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<v Speaker 4>year olds have boyfriends, So that was not even a possibility.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, okay, probably the most important of.

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<v Speaker 7>Everything that you're gonna be when you get older. She

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<v Speaker 7>had no grief with the family, no discipline issues, had

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<v Speaker 7>done well in the school year, She was excited about

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<v Speaker 7>going on the family picnic and that they were going

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<v Speaker 7>to go on that weekend. There were just nothing that

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<v Speaker 7>led us to believe that it was anything other than

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<v Speaker 7>it probably a stranger abduction for an extended acquaintance.

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<v Speaker 1>They were really looking for a needle in a haystack,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly with a child. Every single minute that passes, the

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<v Speaker 1>odds of the police safely finding them go down, so

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<v Speaker 1>within a few hours they could be local or still

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<v Speaker 1>within the state. Within a day, they could be anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>within the country, and within two or three days they

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<v Speaker 1>could be anywhere in the world. So it makes searching

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<v Speaker 1>for that young person that much harder.

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<v Speaker 4>We thought, oh, she'll be back. Whoever took her, we'll

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<v Speaker 4>let her go and let her come back home. We

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<v Speaker 4>still had hope that she would come back home.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, that's the ruly old.

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<v Speaker 3>Woa fine, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I always wanted a large family so that when we

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<v Speaker 4>went places, we could, you know, always have somebody to

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<v Speaker 4>be with. There wasn't somebody left out. So I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>even number of children. So that's why we had six children.

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<v Speaker 4>Jeff wanted twelve, and six was enough. She was so little.

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't believe.

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<v Speaker 4>What was it? Four pounds nine four pounds twelve ounces?

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<v Speaker 4>You know? Well, the fellas are The day we brought

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<v Speaker 4>her home.

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<v Speaker 5>Jarley was born five weeks early and so ended up

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<v Speaker 5>spending nine days or ten days in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 4>Because she came early. She was very small, but she

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<v Speaker 4>caught up really quick. When she was probably three and

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<v Speaker 4>her brother was.

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<v Speaker 6>Four, Jery really loved to dance. She developed a tone

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<v Speaker 6>of the clogging.

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<v Speaker 4>She loved to read and just loved being outdoors and

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<v Speaker 4>very active and just being with her friends.

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<v Speaker 5>She was never could stay mad for very long, always

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<v Speaker 5>had a great smile. Every picture you see there was

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<v Speaker 5>a big smile on her face. We've always had a

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<v Speaker 5>strong belief in God, and we've taught our children that,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we always continue to being an example to

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<v Speaker 5>them of the importance of having faith.

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<v Speaker 2>On the thirtieth, we as a department, including the investigators,

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<v Speaker 2>all felt that we were still looking for a live

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<v Speaker 6>At the beginning of this investigation.

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<v Speaker 5>The biggest thing that Scott Shaw was wanting to push

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<v Speaker 5>was media attention, because he felt with enough media attention

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<v Speaker 5>on this situation that somebody would come forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Media plays a critical role in getting the word out

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<v Speaker 1>and being an amplifier for what police are doing with

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<v Speaker 1>the family of the missing person is doing, and if

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<v Speaker 1>the media is not sufficiently covering a case, it actually

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<v Speaker 1>has a lower likelihood of being successfully resolved. Where that

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<v Speaker 7>Within just about a day, we had as many of

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<v Speaker 7>route that you really had and other neighboring newspaper routes

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<v Speaker 7>to see if there had been any potential witnesses or

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<v Speaker 2>City of Pocatello has at that time, roughly speaking, eighty

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<v Speaker 2>trained police personnel that were available to do searches. We

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<v Speaker 2>needed three times that many, so we took advantage of

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<v Speaker 4>The police organized a search. Just a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>got involved. People met at the church and then we're

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<v Speaker 4>given assignments of where to go look.

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<v Speaker 7>When we gathered at the church house, Shaw looked over

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<v Speaker 7>the parking lot of the vehicles of people that showed

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<v Speaker 7>up in the event that our suspect may show up

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<v Speaker 7>with the suspect vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something that a lot of narcissistic killers loved

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<v Speaker 1>to see when they show up at a scene, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's a funeral a search party, and they're thinking, all

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<v Speaker 1>of these people are here because of me, and they

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<v Speaker 1>feel a sense of pride for them. Seeing newspaper reports

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<v Speaker 1>people coming out and they think in their minds it's

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<v Speaker 1>because of their work.

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<v Speaker 7>We looked the people over very closely that were helping

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<v Speaker 7>us with the search, and we didn't really see anybody

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<v Speaker 7>that matched the description or profile, and we didn't see

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<v Speaker 7>any vehicles that matched closely.

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<v Speaker 2>We received information from the Federal Year of Investigation stating,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the individual that you're probably looking for.

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<v Speaker 7>The FBI believed that he would plan his steps and

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<v Speaker 7>his moves, and he was an organized offender.

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<v Speaker 2>As it turned out, Sergeant Shaw did not agree with that.

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<v Speaker 7>Shaw believed that the fact that it was in the

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<v Speaker 7>middle of the afternoon, broad daylight, busy street people out

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<v Speaker 7>in their yards, and so forth, it was more likely

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<v Speaker 7>stranger abduction than someone that knew her. Both of our

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<v Speaker 7>witnesses observed geral Lee interacting with the man near the car,

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<v Speaker 7>indicated that she appeared to be comfortable, not on edge

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<v Speaker 7>or scared or anything like that. That was a little

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<v Speaker 7>confusing to us. Shawn was able to come up with

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<v Speaker 7>the hypothesis that maybe it was someone that she briefly

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<v Speaker 7>knew or had briefly met, that was why she appeared

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<v Speaker 7>so calm. At this point, we were looking more likely

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<v Speaker 7>towards us being a stranger and that somehow this individual

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<v Speaker 7>had tricked her into feeling like she wasn't in immediate

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<v Speaker 2>We came to the conclusion that this was a member

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<v Speaker 2>of our own community.

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<v Speaker 7>November of ninety two, on the opposite end of town,

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<v Speaker 7>we had a stranger abduction of a young lady middle

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<v Speaker 7>aged teen, where she was taken from a restaurant parking

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<v Speaker 7>lot by a stranger and was taken up into the

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<v Speaker 7>outskirts on the west side of town and sexually assaulted.

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<v Speaker 7>She was released and she got a good look at

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<v Speaker 7>the individual, and she gave us a good description that

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<v Speaker 7>allowed us to get what's called a kompya sketch what

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<v Speaker 7>the individual would look like. Charle began to see some

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<v Speaker 7>similarities and the possibility that this crime and the abduction

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<v Speaker 7>of jural Lee Underwood could possibly have been done by

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<v Speaker 7>the same individual.

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<v Speaker 9>All offenses are pre planned to some degree. They are

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<v Speaker 9>rehearsed in somebody's mind, they are fantasized about. But nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 9>somebody needs to have an opportunity to offend. They need

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<v Speaker 9>to have access to a victim, and they can either

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<v Speaker 9>plan to do this, so you can lure a victim

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<v Speaker 9>to you, or you can be very opportunistic and you

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<v Speaker 9>can see an opportunity such as a little girl on

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<v Speaker 9>a paper round and seize it and the people who

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<v Speaker 9>are more likely to do that are far more impulsive,

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<v Speaker 9>and also they are far more likely to be people

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<v Speaker 9>who have done it in the past.

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<v Speaker 7>It just so happened that about the third day after

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<v Speaker 7>the abduction, we got a call from an individual who

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<v Speaker 7>indicated that we needed to look more closely at someone

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<v Speaker 7>she knew. She indicated he was a relative he closely

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<v Speaker 7>matched the description. She also indicated that he looked quite

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<v Speaker 7>similar to the Kompia sketch image that we had obtained

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<v Speaker 7>from the young lady that had been abducted. She believed

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<v Speaker 7>that he drove a vehicle that closely matched the description

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<v Speaker 7>that we'd put out through the media and in the flyers.

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<v Speaker 7>That it was possible that he also had some friends

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<v Speaker 7>that he spent time with down on the South Main area,

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<v Speaker 7>in the same block that Jerilee had come up missing

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<v Speaker 7>from three days earlier. The relative of this man as

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<v Speaker 7>James or Jimmy Wood.

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<v Speaker 2>Three days in the disappearance of live a year old

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<v Speaker 2>early Underwood, an individual made a phone call and gave

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<v Speaker 2>the departments some information which we considered to be critical.

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<v Speaker 2>An individual named James Wood. He was staying with relatives

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<v Speaker 2>at that point. He and this relative some time between

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<v Speaker 2>the third and the fifth day after Jeroli disappeared and

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<v Speaker 2>went on a camping trip.

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<v Speaker 7>She believed that the vehicle that we may be looking

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<v Speaker 7>for that was owned and driven by this individual would

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<v Speaker 7>have possibly been out on the property, which is in

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<v Speaker 7>a rural area several miles north of Poctello. We were

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<v Speaker 7>able to send a couple of people out and looked

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<v Speaker 7>over the property and they were able to find a

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<v Speaker 7>vehicle that closely matched the description that we were looking for.

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<v Speaker 7>We got a hold of our witness and showed it

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<v Speaker 7>to him and he indicated that look very close, but

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<v Speaker 7>he couldn't give us an exact definite Yes, this is

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<v Speaker 7>the vehicle. By that Monday, we were contacted at the

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<v Speaker 7>police station by the man who was a relative of

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<v Speaker 7>James and had been putting him up in his basement

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<v Speaker 7>for the previous eight months. Roughly came to the department

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<v Speaker 7>and indicated he wanted to report what information he had,

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<v Speaker 7>the fact that he was suspicious because James didn't come

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<v Speaker 7>home that night of the abduction, that he had shaved

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<v Speaker 7>his mustache, that he no longer wore any of the

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<v Speaker 7>clothing that he was wearing when he came back that

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<v Speaker 7>morning of the thirtieth of June. He also knew that

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<v Speaker 7>James owned a handgun. He knew that he was a

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<v Speaker 7>convicted felon had served time in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>When this information was received, it was determined that it

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<v Speaker 2>was credible from the standpoint of there were specifics involved,

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<v Speaker 2>came extremely close to matching the profile that Sergeant Shaw

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<v Speaker 2>had developed. He became our primary suspect.

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<v Speaker 7>We were trying to determine more accurately who he was

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<v Speaker 7>and what his past involved, to see if he had

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<v Speaker 7>any kind of possible alibi. We went out and did

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<v Speaker 7>some more interviews with the people that lived on the

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<v Speaker 7>route where jery Lee had been just moments before she

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<v Speaker 7>was adducted, and we learned that would have actually been

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<v Speaker 7>at the house at the time jeral Lee had come

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<v Speaker 7>to collect for the newspaper. He left the home almost

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<v Speaker 7>immediately after jery Lee walked out of the house and

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<v Speaker 7>had indicated he was going to the store to buy

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<v Speaker 7>beer and that he would be back shortly, and that

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<v Speaker 7>he never came back.

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<v Speaker 2>On July sixth, James Wood was arrested by the book

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<v Speaker 2>to tell the police department when we knocked on the door.

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<v Speaker 2>We advised him that we had a warrant for his

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<v Speaker 2>arrest for first degree kidnapping and to turn around to

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<v Speaker 2>place his hands behind his back, which was has it

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<v Speaker 2>to do, which means I placed him on the ground

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<v Speaker 2>and we hand cafty and removed him from residency.

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<v Speaker 7>Now there was a degree of psychology involved in the arrest.

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<v Speaker 7>Shaw suggested that we have a number of personnel there

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<v Speaker 7>that would look him in the eye and file past

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<v Speaker 7>him as he was sitting in the police car handcuff.

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<v Speaker 7>It was carefully staged.

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<v Speaker 1>Shaw wanted to use the psychology to the community, this

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<v Speaker 1>very tight knit community against him and show that there

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<v Speaker 1>were so many people that were disappointed and so upset

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<v Speaker 1>at what James had done that one of the only

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<v Speaker 1>ways he could find redemption was by telling the truth

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<v Speaker 1>and letting the community know what really happened so they

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<v Speaker 1>could find some peace.

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<v Speaker 7>Once he got into the police station, Chaw took what

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<v Speaker 7>into his office and closed the door. He didn't want

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<v Speaker 7>any other personnel in there with him as a distraction.

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<v Speaker 7>We just didn't know at the time where garri Lee was,

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<v Speaker 7>and he needed to establish a connection with would to

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<v Speaker 7>convince him to tell us what had happened with her.

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<v Speaker 7>Where he'd taken her. He told Shaw that he had

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<v Speaker 7>driven her down towards the Utah Idaho border after abducting her,

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<v Speaker 7>and they had slept the night in the car. He'd

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<v Speaker 7>attempted to sexually assault her, but nearly chastising for that,

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<v Speaker 7>told him to knock it off, and so he claimed

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<v Speaker 7>he did. After they slept the night in the car,

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<v Speaker 7>he led her out outside of the town. We didn't

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<v Speaker 7>believe that, so Shaw kept working on him, and within

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<v Speaker 7>an hour or two Would finally said, there's more to

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<v Speaker 7>the story. I lied to you. He'd driven back through

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<v Speaker 7>Pocatello and decided to take her to Idaho Falls, about

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<v Speaker 2>Eventually described to Sergeant Shaw how he had told Jurlie

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<v Speaker 2>she could go some bushes to go to the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 2>and he walked up and shot her at the back

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<v Speaker 2>of the head. Would dismembered her and threw the remains

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<v Speaker 2>into the Snake River.

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<v Speaker 9>James would confessed, and he didn't need to confess at

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<v Speaker 9>that time because there was very little evidence at that

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<v Speaker 9>point in the inquiry to link him.

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<v Speaker 4>But yet he told them everything.

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<v Speaker 9>And I think that offenders do this because sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 9>a relief it feels like an unburdening, but for other

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<v Speaker 9>people it's about bragging about what they've done, or even

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<v Speaker 9>it's about reliving what they've done.

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty much as soon as they opened the door, I

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<v Speaker 4>knew what the news was. That person in custody had

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<v Speaker 4>admitted to killing Jerley, that she was no longer with us.

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<v Speaker 4>It was very hard to hear that our daughter had

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<v Speaker 5>I just remember Joyce and I just the tears rolling

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<v Speaker 5>down our face and all that we would never see

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<v Speaker 5>Jarley again, that she would not be here with us

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<v Speaker 5>in this life anymore. M.

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<v Speaker 4>We were grateful to know that, you know, I have

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<v Speaker 4>finally have an answer and know what had happened, instead

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<v Speaker 4>of wondering all our lives where she was or if

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<v Speaker 4>she was still alive, because I cannot even imagine not knowing.

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<v Speaker 4>As hard as it was to know that she was killed,

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<v Speaker 4>the not knowing would have been so much harder.

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<v Speaker 5>Tears and the sobs from our children when we brought

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<v Speaker 5>them here in this room and told them that they

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<v Speaker 5>would never see their sister again because her life had

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<v Speaker 5>been taken by James Wood.

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<v Speaker 2>We felt that it was necessary for them to understand

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<v Speaker 2>the total of what happened to their daughter, and we did,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact go back to them and tell them that

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<v Speaker 2>she had been shot, and that she'd been dismembered, and

432
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:13.640
<v Speaker 2>that the body had been thrown in the river, and

433
00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:15.960
<v Speaker 2>that we were going to do or darnedest to get

434
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:26.880
<v Speaker 2>her back. We're at the north end of Idaho Falls,

435
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:30.720
<v Speaker 2>on the west bank of Snake River, where James Wood

436
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:36.920
<v Speaker 2>brought Gerale Underwood. Once we learned this was the scene

437
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:40.680
<v Speaker 2>of the murder, we notified the Sheriff's office in the

438
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:45.079
<v Speaker 2>Idaho Falls Police Department because it then became their crime scene,

439
00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:49.359
<v Speaker 2>and they brought in a dive team with the intention

440
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:53.519
<v Speaker 2>of trying to recover her remains in any evidence. He

441
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:58.720
<v Speaker 2>showed us where he had killed her. When he showed

442
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:01.079
<v Speaker 2>us where he had cut her up with a hatchet

443
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:04.480
<v Speaker 2>and a knife, we're able to see what appeared to

444
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:08.359
<v Speaker 2>be remnants of blood in the tamp down grass.

445
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of reasons why offenders will sometimes bring

446
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:15.799
<v Speaker 1>police to the scene of a crime when it was

447
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>otherwise not known, and in this case, it could be

448
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:20.880
<v Speaker 1>that this was one of the last chances he would

449
00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:23.880
<v Speaker 1>ever have to relive the crime he committed.

450
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:26.200
<v Speaker 4>This is like a vacation.

451
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.319
<v Speaker 1>For us, we love to look at photo albums and

452
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:32.319
<v Speaker 1>think about it again, go through our cell phone pictures

453
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and relive happy times. And in the mind of James Wood,

454
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:39.400
<v Speaker 1>going back to the crime scene, even though it was

455
00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:44.039
<v Speaker 1>horrific for him, it was a happy moment. He received

456
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:46.359
<v Speaker 1>a lot of pleasure out of it. And so while

457
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:49.599
<v Speaker 1>he was able to get something out of it, obviously

458
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>the police gained a lot more.

459
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:58.599
<v Speaker 7>Some of her remains were not located until close to

460
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:02.680
<v Speaker 7>a week later, a couple of miles downstream. Some city

461
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:06.680
<v Speaker 7>workers located for Torso near a power plant.

462
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:18.000
<v Speaker 4>Because of circumstances of Jarley's murder, we weren't able to

463
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:21.960
<v Speaker 4>view her after her death, and that was very difficult,

464
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:25.119
<v Speaker 4>and I wondered many times, Okay, was that really her?

465
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:30.200
<v Speaker 4>How do you know it was her? They had dental

466
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.799
<v Speaker 4>records that were able to identify her, and so there's

467
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:35.920
<v Speaker 4>no question. But it still was hard not seeing her,

468
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:39.079
<v Speaker 4>to know in my heart that that really was her.

469
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:53.359
<v Speaker 4>Maybe more because as her mother, I wanted a different outcome.

470
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:55.279
<v Speaker 7>Now.

471
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:57.279
<v Speaker 4>I wanted her to come home. I wanted her to

472
00:32:57.319 --> 00:33:00.039
<v Speaker 4>be with me, So it was hard to ex.

473
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:19.680
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you that in forty eight years of

474
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:26.680
<v Speaker 2>law enforcement, I have never seen another case of a

475
00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:32.839
<v Speaker 2>absolute stranger abduction and murder as the one of Jerlei Underwood.

476
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:39.079
<v Speaker 2>When we interviewed people who were potential witnesses, we got

477
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:42.440
<v Speaker 2>two sides of James Wood. One that we trade him

478
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:44.960
<v Speaker 2>like a relative and the other one he's kind of

479
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:52.240
<v Speaker 2>the leech. These are notes to myself. This was details

480
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:55.480
<v Speaker 2>of other crimes that had been committed that mister Wood

481
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:59.119
<v Speaker 2>would admit to, everything from first degree murder, a kidnapping,

482
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:04.039
<v Speaker 2>tons of rape, two counts of crimes against nature, one

483
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:07.000
<v Speaker 2>of the aggravated assault, two counts robbery, one of a

484
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:07.920
<v Speaker 2>tempted robbery.

485
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>James Wood had a long history of other types of

486
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:18.400
<v Speaker 1>interpersonal and violent offenses. These were escalating gradually but really

487
00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:23.480
<v Speaker 1>hit a crescendo rape before he committed the abduction and

488
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:28.079
<v Speaker 1>murder of Jerily Underwood. This is something that was not

489
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:32.440
<v Speaker 1>initially known, but through this investigation police found out that

490
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:35.400
<v Speaker 1>he was responsible for these other types of offenses that

491
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:37.880
<v Speaker 1>were so similar to what he had done to Jerilee.

492
00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:45.639
<v Speaker 7>As far back as the late nineteen sixties, he had

493
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:49.719
<v Speaker 7>befriended a couple of ladies that he thought had cheated

494
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:52.679
<v Speaker 7>him or caused his car to be stolen, and he

495
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.119
<v Speaker 7>ended up cutting their throats and then raping one of

496
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:57.360
<v Speaker 7>the women, thinking he had killed them both, but they

497
00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:03.159
<v Speaker 7>both survived, and later on in the seventies he admitted

498
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:05.639
<v Speaker 7>he approached a woman that was gassing her car up

499
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:08.960
<v Speaker 7>near a grocery store, grabbed her, stuck a gun in

500
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:12.199
<v Speaker 7>her ribs, sexually assaulted her, and shot her in the head,

501
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:16.639
<v Speaker 7>matter of factly leaving her for dad, but she ended

502
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:23.159
<v Speaker 7>up surviving. In early fall of nineteen ninety two, he

503
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:27.000
<v Speaker 7>had molested his fourteen or fifteen year old stepdaughter with

504
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 7>his second wife and raped her. He was afraid after

505
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.440
<v Speaker 7>doing this because it was probably an impulsi BacT, because

506
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:37.599
<v Speaker 7>that's the kind of person he was, and that the

507
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:39.760
<v Speaker 7>law would be looking for him, so he stole his

508
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:43.440
<v Speaker 7>wife's credit card and one of her handguns, which ended

509
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:46.239
<v Speaker 7>up being we believe the same handgun that he used

510
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:50.360
<v Speaker 7>to threaten our other rape victim and to kill Jurili.

511
00:35:56.440 --> 00:36:00.559
<v Speaker 9>I think that violence towards women had become such an

512
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:05.519
<v Speaker 9>ingrained pattern in James Wood, so he knew that he

513
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:08.920
<v Speaker 9>would never be safe around women. He gave an interview

514
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:11.159
<v Speaker 9>and he said, if you let me out of prison,

515
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:15.519
<v Speaker 9>I will kill again. It's a guarantee. He knew that

516
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:19.480
<v Speaker 9>he had this very very strong compulsion that he didn't

517
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:22.760
<v Speaker 9>have the willpower to fight, and the number of offenses

518
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:27.000
<v Speaker 9>that he's committed are huge. This is a part of

519
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:29.599
<v Speaker 9>his life now, a part of his life that he

520
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:31.239
<v Speaker 9>can't imagine living without.

521
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:49.000
<v Speaker 8>Jeral Lee's funeral was a very spiritual experience. As I

522
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:53.079
<v Speaker 8>walked into the chapel that day, it was completely.

523
00:36:52.519 --> 00:37:00.679
<v Speaker 5>For Kurt Howard. The comments that he made, This amazing

524
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:05.159
<v Speaker 5>at how many people were there brought us a lot

525
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:06.239
<v Speaker 5>of comfort.

526
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:13.360
<v Speaker 3>The name geral Lee has been a byword, a rallying word,

527
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:21.039
<v Speaker 3>a word, a name that has stirred emotions within the

528
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:26.719
<v Speaker 3>Hall of Us. And today we come to reverence or name,

529
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:33.559
<v Speaker 3>we express our love in respect for her one more time.

530
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:41.639
<v Speaker 7>Many of us from the Department, we wanted to attend

531
00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:45.039
<v Speaker 7>the service to show support to the Underwoods and express

532
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:48.440
<v Speaker 7>our grief and condolences to them for what they'd had

533
00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:51.199
<v Speaker 7>to undergo. It was tough on the whole department. We

534
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:54.599
<v Speaker 7>all needed some closure, the details of what had happened,

535
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:56.840
<v Speaker 7>and then the details of other things he had done

536
00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:02.280
<v Speaker 7>earlier in his life that were similarly, Hana, it kind

537
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:04.320
<v Speaker 7>of sticks with you and we all needed some closure

538
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.400
<v Speaker 7>and that service helped helped me at least.

539
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:12.760
<v Speaker 3>This past week, we've seen a mom and a dad.

540
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:23.079
<v Speaker 3>They have taught us so much about love, compassion, understanding,

541
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:25.119
<v Speaker 3>and forgiving.

542
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:36.039
<v Speaker 7>Would negotiate it through his attorney a plea agreement where

543
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:40.039
<v Speaker 7>he would plead to the abduction, rape, and murder of

544
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:44.639
<v Speaker 7>Durally the other charges at the court agreed to dismiss

545
00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:48.079
<v Speaker 7>them without prejudice, which meant they could at a later

546
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:52.280
<v Speaker 7>time file those charges, but there was an agreement that

547
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:55.039
<v Speaker 7>they would not do so if he pled to those

548
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 7>charges related to geral Lee Underwood.

549
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:02.639
<v Speaker 4>We didn't go to the initial hearings. They encouraged us

550
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:05.280
<v Speaker 4>not to just because of all the graphic things that

551
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:07.760
<v Speaker 4>would be brought up, and felt it that was really

552
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:09.400
<v Speaker 4>be hard for us to hear.

553
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:14.639
<v Speaker 2>At the end, he was sentenced to the death penalty

554
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:18.440
<v Speaker 2>and the state of idoh.

555
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:20.960
<v Speaker 4>When we do something wrong, we need to pay for that.

556
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:23.920
<v Speaker 4>There needs to be restitution made. I don't know in

557
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:26.960
<v Speaker 4>this case, I mean, nothing can bring Jarley back.

558
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Well.

559
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:34.199
<v Speaker 4>I felt like a death sentence was appropriate since he

560
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:40.239
<v Speaker 4>murdered our daughter. I didn't know if it ever really happened,

561
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:44.159
<v Speaker 4>because it seems like that the system it takes a

562
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:47.239
<v Speaker 4>long time for that to be carried out. But I

563
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:52.639
<v Speaker 4>knew that once he died that he would receive his

564
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:53.639
<v Speaker 4>just reward.

565
00:39:55.840 --> 00:40:00.480
<v Speaker 2>The judged sentenced would to be put to death by

566
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:05.840
<v Speaker 2>lethal injection. Since that time he had been in the

567
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:10.559
<v Speaker 2>penitentiary in two thousand and four diet of natural causes.

568
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:12.559
<v Speaker 2>And my understanding is it was a hard today.

569
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:21.119
<v Speaker 7>He wasn't an organized perpetrator at all. Almost all of

570
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:24.079
<v Speaker 7>his crimes weren't really thought out or planned out in advance.

571
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:28.039
<v Speaker 7>He was impulsive. He was compulsive, He made snap decisions,

572
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:29.679
<v Speaker 7>and he was good enough at what he did that

573
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:32.039
<v Speaker 7>he had more or less a false sense of confidence

574
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:36.679
<v Speaker 7>that he could get away with it. Wouldn't know Jerry Lee,

575
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:39.239
<v Speaker 7>prior to her coming to collect at the house of

576
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:42.239
<v Speaker 7>the friend, that he was at that evening for dinner,

577
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:45.519
<v Speaker 7>but that he took an interest in her, He conversed

578
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:47.639
<v Speaker 7>with her a little bit, and he hatched this scheme

579
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:51.239
<v Speaker 7>to assault her and then ultimately end her life violently.

580
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:57.320
<v Speaker 1>He is at the worst of the worst end of

581
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:00.079
<v Speaker 1>the spectrum in terms of dangerousness. This is an and

582
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:05.960
<v Speaker 1>that is both sadistic, impulsive, reckless, has low empathy for

583
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:09.480
<v Speaker 1>others and very little remorse for the actions that he commits.

584
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:13.559
<v Speaker 1>He probably would have committed more offenses and just would

585
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:16.559
<v Speaker 1>have kept on the commission of violence that he was

586
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:22.199
<v Speaker 1>going on if he did not get stopped by police.

587
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:28.159
<v Speaker 4>The area where Julie was taken is the path to

588
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:31.880
<v Speaker 4>go anywhere into town, and so we passed that daily.

589
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:35.519
<v Speaker 4>Now I don't think about it near as much, but

590
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:40.199
<v Speaker 4>sometimes I drive by it and I just would scream.

591
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:42.440
<v Speaker 4>It was hard to pass by a first.

592
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.559
<v Speaker 5>Most of our memories of Darley is right here in

593
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:55.599
<v Speaker 5>our home. Oncen't a while, we'll go over to the

594
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:59.360
<v Speaker 5>cemetery because there's a nice head stolen on her grave.

595
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:02.960
<v Speaker 5>There's a plaque in front of the church by a

596
00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:09.599
<v Speaker 5>tree that was planted in her memory. She just was

597
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:14.840
<v Speaker 5>just soulful energy and just wanted to accomplish so much.

598
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:39.840
<v Speaker 4>Good. Charley's faith was very important to her, always teaching

599
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:45.400
<v Speaker 4>other people about Christ and how to forgive and to

600
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:52.360
<v Speaker 4>be kind, to be honest. No, I can't stop crying.

601
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:15.599
<v Speaker 4>I'd just like to say to Jerley, I love you

602
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:31.679
<v Speaker 4>and I miss you. M M h.
