Speaker 1: I love this topic.
Speaker 2: It is old school parenting ideas that this, uh, this article,
Speaker 2: opines is just what today's kids need and helping us
Speaker 2: sort through it all is justin worship. Hello, sports is
Speaker 2: not his lame.
Speaker 3: Sports absolutely not.
Speaker 4: Gave up on your San Francisco.
Speaker 2: Yeah, became a RAMS fan, and that is when we
Speaker 2: stopped being sorry for my children.
Speaker 4: No, no, it's not my children.
Speaker 1: Okay, first five, it's not for the children.
Speaker 5: Teach your children to have some amount of credibility and.
Speaker 2: You know what, not just credibility, but loyalty, indignity, and integrity.
Speaker 3: It sounds like.
Speaker 6: Somebody's a little upset about the DeVante Adams signings.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not tell your faith. I am not.
Speaker 2: You think Matt Stafford's gonna you think there's gonna be
Speaker 2: a different ending to this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, all right, I do because they're so great.
Speaker 3: Are so great. There it is, And now I.
Speaker 6: Know why she likes doing this is my first opportunity
Speaker 6: to trigger her.
Speaker 3: And it feels like I feel electricity in my base.
Speaker 3: Yeah bat.
Speaker 4: Old school parenting.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm like sweating and vibrating with joy.
Speaker 3: I'm not lying. This is Oh my god.
Speaker 6: I now understand the power that you feel on a
Speaker 6: daily basis. What's incredible because I just said something in
Speaker 6: name to me and you just started shaking.
Speaker 2: It's not something you said, it's the fact that you
Speaker 2: would be a lifelong forty nine er fan.
Speaker 4: Off hand and the hand.
Speaker 6: While she talks his forts into flipping the bird, She's
Speaker 6: just standing.
Speaker 2: Here along the right place I live for years of
Speaker 2: the biggest that I can take the training care base
Speaker 2: to clean My son to the Enos season stayed like
Speaker 2: five and seven at the time you decided to be
Speaker 2: a ram.
Speaker 3: My son was like, I really like the Rams.
Speaker 1: And then there you tell them that they're wrong.
Speaker 4: Do not say no to your say no to your
Speaker 4: kid everything.
Speaker 2: It's like every That's what I mean, Like, why kid
Speaker 2: wants to be a Dolphins fan when they're five because
Speaker 2: they like Dolphins.
Speaker 1: You don't let them live their life as a Dolphins.
Speaker 6: Anybody wants to be a Dolphins fan. I think Shannon's
Speaker 6: talking about herself.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows a kid that wanted to be a Dolphins
Speaker 2: fan when they were a five issues.
Speaker 6: No, that's maybe like a girlfriend you had surgery in
Speaker 6: nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 2: Because one is upset She's running down the hall saying
Speaker 2: stay on topic.
Speaker 3: No, she's not issue.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh she is my best number one. She's like,
Speaker 2: this is uninteresting. I understand, just so clear.
Speaker 3: I just said a couple of dumb things. Jesus is
Speaker 3: going off.
Speaker 5: Well, I want to bring this back to the topic.
Speaker 4: But I think giving your kids, well, you have.
Speaker 3: To let them throw a tantrum.
Speaker 4: Gar let's be as fan. You don't have to change
Speaker 4: your You don't have to change your strike.
Speaker 6: You don't want change the dynamic where the two of
Speaker 6: you gang up on.
Speaker 4: Me like he made my decision.
Speaker 2: You weren't born and raised in Modesto to root for
Speaker 2: the Rams.
Speaker 3: That's true, that's very true. But my kids were born
Speaker 3: and raised in Burbank.
Speaker 1: To get the children who cares.
Speaker 6: Listen, It's okay, they're like, nobody likes the Rams like
Speaker 6: it address me.
Speaker 3: Anybody who goes to a game knows.
Speaker 6: That the majority of the people there are visiting because
Speaker 6: they came from some other city. So it's like you
Speaker 6: just have this like trap that brings the team in
Speaker 6: so that you could watch your team beat the crap
Speaker 6: out of the local team that you hold up shop.
Speaker 6: And I are te years apart almost to the minute.
Speaker 6: His birthday is also January twenty four. You don't think
Speaker 6: it's fun that parlor Tricky does where he remembers every
Speaker 6: play ever.
Speaker 3: That's fun.
Speaker 4: That's cool, head coach, that sounds.
Speaker 3: Like John Cruden. That's delightful.
Speaker 6: Give your kids space, Give you space, unlike you two
Speaker 6: are giving me at the.
Speaker 1: Beginning of every baseball season.
Speaker 3: You get a little jones in for football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I apologize that you took the brunt of
Speaker 2: it today.
Speaker 4: She had she had about a quiet month or so.
Speaker 4: She just saw a girlfriend.
Speaker 3: Immediately. I love you so much, you don't you don't
Speaker 3: care when I'm talking.
Speaker 4: You're not talking. When I'm talking, you're not talking. We'll
Speaker 4: get it back on track, I swear.
Speaker 3: Probably. I guess we're carrying over anger. No, she didn't
Speaker 3: get in trouble. She's just trying not to get I.
Speaker 2: Don't want to ruin it because I really want him
Speaker 2: to get to this topic about the old school parenting.
Speaker 5: Okay, well we did the giving your kids space thing
Speaker 5: and the tan let.
Speaker 6: What I want to say about so what this was
Speaker 6: is that this guy put on Reddit, like, what are
Speaker 6: some things that you experienced in your childhood that you
Speaker 6: think would be good for kids today but is not
Speaker 6: part of the you know, modern parenting style. And the
Speaker 6: first one is giving your kids space, but it's not
Speaker 6: the space that I think. It means that it's not
Speaker 6: a safe space. It means that allowing them to fail,
Speaker 6: that like failure is the best teacher out there, and
Speaker 6: I would agree with that. But the second one is
Speaker 6: also let them be alone, which means you're not always
Speaker 6: around them trying to like entertain them or engage them,
Speaker 6: stimulate them, like just let them be and it goes
Speaker 6: into all these benefits of like emotional development. When your
Speaker 6: kid gets to be bored, it's everything that everybody who
Speaker 6: grew up in the eighties feels like. The kids today
Speaker 6: don't have right because they have these computers and TVs
Speaker 6: and everything all in their pocket all the time.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: The chores thing is also pretty important.
Speaker 5: Yes, I've run into this a couple of times, probably
Speaker 5: more often lately, where kids don't have chores, they just
Speaker 5: have money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just the way it goes.
Speaker 5: I just have money and available to them anytime they want,
Speaker 5: and mom or dad can venmo them or PayPal.
Speaker 3: Or app whatever.
Speaker 1: Do your kids have chores.
Speaker 5: They had very specific requirements. Yes, they were things that
Speaker 5: they were responsible, right.
Speaker 6: I failed at this. We started off with chores, but
Speaker 6: I could not get them. I couldn't get them on board.
Speaker 6: And I hate like throwing my wife under the bus
Speaker 6: a little bit. But she's not big on consequences. Like
Speaker 6: that's our parenting fight that we have within our relationship.
Speaker 6: And I very much am and so she's just like.
Speaker 3: Well, they try. Everything is about effort. It doesn't matter
Speaker 3: the result, all right.
Speaker 6: Like the playoffs, You're right, you totally won that one.
Speaker 6: That's great. I have not won this entire two segments
Speaker 6: at all. You're right, you nailed the shit.
Speaker 3: God be so good. You got me on my heels.
Speaker 1: I'm very easy to manipulate.
Speaker 4: If you tell me I won.
Speaker 1: Even if I know I'm being manipulated, it still feels good.
Speaker 3: Oh good, I like that. That's great. That's even more
Speaker 3: fun for me to have later.
Speaker 4: I also think it's her birthday if you give her
Speaker 4: a card.
Speaker 6: My Shannon fair and toolbox is getting so big, right,
Speaker 6: I'm letting so many skills right now. The other one
Speaker 6: that I like here is allowing them to experience conflict.
Speaker 6: This was something that came up with my kids is
Speaker 6: that my wife and I have had like one really
Speaker 6: big fight and we had it in front of our
Speaker 6: oldest son and he kind of started to get upset.
Speaker 3: My wife kind of like looked like, okay, let's be careful.
Speaker 1: What were you fighting about.
Speaker 6: We were actually fighting about her, But she she would
Speaker 6: treat me like a sitcom dad, even though I was
Speaker 6: the guy who was home with the kids. It was
Speaker 6: when I was working here at the radio station on
Speaker 6: handle show, so I was home with them after school.
Speaker 6: I was cooking meals and all that stuff. And she
Speaker 6: came home one day and she was like, well, you know,
Speaker 6: he thinks that you don't care whenever he has an
Speaker 6: ailment and tried to explain to me how to properly
Speaker 6: care for a child.
Speaker 3: Does he think my son?
Speaker 6: Was saying this to my wife after I had gone
Speaker 6: to bed at like seven o'clock because I was getting
Speaker 6: up at two am, and I just was like, you
Speaker 6: don't like last you guys made fun of me before,
Speaker 6: like I literally broke down breastfeeding.
Speaker 3: To her, like I had to talk about the biology.
Speaker 6: And again, I don't like this because my wife is great,
Speaker 6: and I literally could not live without her, and I
Speaker 6: hate it when sometimes I talk making jokes.
Speaker 1: Like she comes across that you adore her.
Speaker 3: Don't are you doing the thing I was doing?
Speaker 1: No, I'm serious, I'm serious. I don't worry about that.
Speaker 3: No, I know I couldn't.
Speaker 6: Like, I literally gave up the career I wanted since
Speaker 6: I was in first grade so I could be around
Speaker 6: this woman and these children more.
Speaker 3: But so anyway I got.
Speaker 6: We got into this big fight about it because I'm like,
Speaker 6: I'm not an uninvolved dad, I'm not an ignorant dad.
Speaker 3: I'm very engaged. I'm very aware.
Speaker 6: I said, you can't come into the situation acting like
Speaker 6: you have all of the information when you have none.
Speaker 6: And that was kind of what I was sternly saying
Speaker 6: back to her because I was offended, And so I
Speaker 6: broke it down from and I said, listen, I go.
Speaker 3: You and your brother fight all the time. You don't
Speaker 3: see your mom and I getting upset? Right, I go.
Speaker 3: And this is where I really nailed as a father.
Speaker 6: I said, I go, Well, the four of us are
Speaker 6: all living in this house together in close proximity. I go,
Speaker 6: Prisoners try to stab each other just from being close
Speaker 6: to each other.
Speaker 3: It's very similar.
Speaker 4: They have to make their own knives. We have them
Speaker 4: in the drawer. He's like, I got my ship right here.
Speaker 3: But it was something that I noticed about even my parents.
Speaker 6: My parents would have lots of conversations, disagreements, arguments in
Speaker 6: front of me, and it kind of teaches you how
Speaker 6: to be in a relationship.
Speaker 5: I think, otherwise you don't. There's no way to model
Speaker 5: that if you hide it from them. There's one of
Speaker 5: these later on that I think is interesting. It's a
Speaker 5: side with the teacher. Yeah, sometimes the teacher is right
Speaker 5: about your kid being incorrigible or acting out in class.
Speaker 5: But just as important as that is, like hey, missus
Speaker 5: Terwilliger has the opportunity to call you out on your ass,
Speaker 5: there are times when you have to defend the kid
Speaker 5: against the teacher.
Speaker 6: Have done I have done that less than what I
Speaker 6: would expect it as a parent. I have fought advocated
Speaker 6: for my kid against more teachers. There's been teachers that
Speaker 6: I have relationships with that I know, and they've like,
Speaker 6: like they set a picture of Jack when he was
Speaker 6: in first grade that he just decided he wasn't going
Speaker 6: to listen, and he did a duck and cover drill
Speaker 6: under the desk, like just lay down, and the teacher
Speaker 6: texts me, she goes, this is what he's doing right now,
Speaker 6: and I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2: That's like a whole topic like siding with the teacher
Speaker 2: or your kid, and the ramifications of both of those.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a case by case basis. I would
Speaker 2: assume about the context of a lawyer. Right, you are
Speaker 2: your kids. You can't be your kid's advocate.
Speaker 5: But in the event that your kid is accused of
Speaker 5: doing something that they didn't do, you have to have
Speaker 5: that heart to heart, honest conversation with Hey, listen, I'll
Speaker 5: go to bat for you, and I'll use all the
Speaker 5: resources that are available to me to defend you, but
Speaker 5: you better go all the way down and tell me
Speaker 5: the absolute God's honest try about this, because if there's
Speaker 5: any moment that I find out that you're lying about it,
Speaker 5: or you're fudging the details, or you're passing off responsibility, yeah,
Speaker 5: and then you're on your own and you don't want that.
Speaker 6: Both of my kids have had that conversation with me
Speaker 6: where I've said, I go, listen, I go if I
Speaker 6: will fight for you and I am involved in these schools,
Speaker 6: so the parker, I will go in there, I will
Speaker 6: I will parker it up.
Speaker 2: And but like what if, like, you know, I'm just
Speaker 2: thinking of something where there's gray area, you know, not
Speaker 2: like plagiarism or cheating on a test or something, but
Speaker 2: you know your kid's not showing effort or whatever, and
Speaker 2: your kids like I am doing everything I can. How
Speaker 2: do you navigate that?
Speaker 6: I had that where the what was happening was he
Speaker 6: was struggling in math. The teacher was not really supporting.
Speaker 6: It also happened to be during the pandemic. He was
Speaker 6: failing math. And I said, I go, Okay, on Friday,
Speaker 6: that's your day that you go check in because this
Speaker 6: was the time where they didn't have school on Friday,
Speaker 6: but the teachers had like office hours like it was
Speaker 6: a college, and you would go and check in from
Speaker 6: what you would learn to make sure you were getting.
Speaker 6: And I said, you go to her every Friday and
Speaker 6: say this is what I think I'm understanding.
Speaker 3: Am I right? Every Friday you go to talk to her.
Speaker 6: He's like okay, And then he was still failing and
Speaker 6: I went back and I talked to her, and he
Speaker 6: didn't go every Friday and so I had to tell him,
Speaker 6: I'm like, listen, she was definitely in the wrong. Like
Speaker 6: something else came up where he was upset about trying
Speaker 6: to make up the work, and he was emotional, and
Speaker 6: he was twelve. And this was back when he got
Speaker 6: to go back into the classroom and he was approaching
Speaker 6: her to talk to her, and a twelve year old
Speaker 6: was emotional in front of her, and she and he
Speaker 6: started crying and she laughed in his face.
Speaker 3: That was something that I got the admin.
Speaker 6: Involved, not because I was worried about my kid, but
Speaker 6: I was like, you can't let this lady do somebody else,
Speaker 6: because somebody else is going to start beating and getting
Speaker 6: pitchforks and torches and want her fired because they're going
Speaker 6: to care more about this. Right, But I said, you
Speaker 6: took my ability to help you away when you didn't
Speaker 6: do what I told you to do. You didn't do
Speaker 6: your part, So I can't help you now with this.
Speaker 6: You're just gonna have to deal with the result and
Speaker 6: the consequence.
Speaker 4: All right, So next week we'll talk more about it,
Speaker 4: all right.
Speaker 3: I will get that together.
Speaker 4: Spank your kids.
Speaker 6: Maybe we'll do the second segment about the NFC West
Speaker 6: just in general, that's fine.
Speaker 3: Okay, done you.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not.
Speaker 3: What are you going?
Speaker 2: I'm responding to Deborah Mark. She sent me a new
Speaker 2: sex show to watch, so poor boy.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad.
Speaker 4: I asked as always a joy when you were here.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, just like a battered way.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. It's me, it's me. Carrie and Shanna will
Speaker 4: continue after this