Speaker 1: The infinite complaints people went to and pro feared about
their little affairs, serene and the assurance of their dominion
over this small binning fragment of solar dripwood, which, by
chance or design, man has inherited out of the dark
mystery of time and space.
Speaker 2: On this episode of Into the Fray, No, it is
not just myself.
Speaker 3: If you're watching this on YouTube, you're like, where is
the other half? Well, he's here.
Speaker 2: He's just going to be anonymous for this chat, and
of course there will be no video.
Speaker 3: They'll just be seeing myself.
Speaker 2: And also if the voice sounds a little strange, it's
because for the first time I got to play with
voice alteration in Da Vinci Resolves. So if the voice
sounds a little odd, no, it's not a completely made
up voice. I would never ever do that a story.
The whole thing is not fabricated by chat gippets. It
is just voice alteration in beautiful Da Vinci Resolve. So, uh,
hello anonymous guest, and welcome to Into the Fray.
Speaker 4: Peyton Shan. This is all a stop lying.
Speaker 3: This is all the whole ten years.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you didn't I actually came up with
chat GPT ten years ago and I've been using it
the whole time.
Speaker 4: Jokes on all of you, right, thanks for having.
Speaker 2: No absolutely absolutely, So, I don't know how much you
want to share in the beginning, about how much you've.
Speaker 3: We talked about this a little before we officially started, but.
Speaker 2: How much you've been feeling like you wanted to share
with people, you know, you know, maybe just set up
how you how you feel about what you are going
to be sharing today.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what I'm going to be sharing is mostly
around you know, this whole idea of intentionally can I
into a sasquatch through whatever type of mind speak potentially happens,
as well as some powers of like sleep and the
idea of remote viewing and how this kind of comes
into play with some sasquatch you know activity potentially, but
then also maybe addressing and touching a little bit on
you know, why this all came about, how long it's
been happening. So hopefully this doesn't turn into too much
of a therapy session because that's not fun for anyone.
Speaker 2: I usually does for both sides, So don't don't worry
about that.
Speaker 3: We all just get it out here, you.
Speaker 2: Know, right, right, And it's all about tangents. So, yeah,
wherever you wanted to begin, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well we can start with this was during a time
when I was having some anxiety, and I don't know
why this was so prevalent, you know, a few years ago.
Now it's subsiding, although you know it peaks up every
now and then, and I was going through this is
kind of one of the big reveal moments, and this
kind of set precedence for you know, my story era
where I was actually going to some therapy and I
was telling can't actually remember now what came first, you
know how I kind of knew that I I had
an ability, although I've never really tapped into it, but
had this ability to potentially remote view. And for what
for those who might not know what that means, it's basically,
you can see something or see someone doing something, you know,
without even being there. Right. It's like you're behind a door,
but yet you can see what's happening on the other side.
So I'll kind of go with this first instance where
I was going through some therapy and my therapist was
you know, he seems very open to this idea, and
he seemed like he was able to relate almost to
some type of whether it was intuition, whether it was
you know, him being somewhat paychic on certain things, whatever
it is. And so I was like, oh, that's that's cool.
And I actually was wondering, like, man, what you know.
I always dabbled with the idea of could someone like
how if someone could someone be a teacher of this,
and like, I know that there are plenty of people
out there who do remote viewing, but like some of
them get recruited by the CIA or whatever might be right,
like you hear those stories, and so I was like,
I don't know how far down the wrapit I want
to go, but I kind of heard him speak about
this and I said, okay, well then we talked about
a little bit. So I think it was like I
wrote some for a couple of sessions and this is
why I'm warm personal things. But then I went to
sleep one night and I had a dream and this
is where if you've ever seen Stranger Things, where eleven
actually can there's this just this dark space, but then
the light is only on the individuals in this space.
That's a e exacthlete. How I saw this therapist and
there was a woman like on the ground, and I
think she was wearing white or something, but like had
it stick and she was writing in the sand like
he could see. I could see this so vividly, and
I said, okay, what what are you doing? And the
therapist in my dream said, this is a test and
I need you to tell me the next day, like
our next session, that of what you're seeing here, so
that I can kind of judge, like your your ability.
And I was like, okay, came and I said, what's
what's the woman doing in like she was writing? And
I said what's her name? And I heard very vividly, no,
miss is the family but like darling. And so when
I said, okay, o, she's writing something, I didn't see
exactly what she was writing him. That was all it was.
And then I kind of woke up and I just remembered, Okay,
I got to remember that there was a woman that
this therapist my dream was telling me to, you know,
to talk to him about it, you know, our next session.
So I did. And when I said you kind of
mentioned something to you, I didn't have a dream about you,
he seemed surprised, Oh really, But I said, do you
happen to know, someone named Darlene, and I kind of
explained to him what I saw on the fact that
she was trying to write with like a stick in
the sand, and he goes, well, I had a sister, Carlin,
and we don't she has a problem with like speech,
like so we only can write to each other. And
I was like, Okay, does this dream mean anything to
you that I've just now like tapped into the fact
that I was a letter off from your sister's name
and like got into this really personable situation like where
you've heard had difficulty communicating because only rights and things
like that. Who's like, yeah, it's a little unsettling because
I don't you know, I would have never thought that
you would have come to me with that type of thing,
So I thought that was gonna be interested. But then
I started to kind of explore that a little bit
more and for me, and I think there's a lot
of folks out there who kind of tap into this,
you know again remote viewing or whatever you want to
call it, as they're sleeping or like I found for me,
it was it's very clear as is like more of
the after three AM points, just as you're kind of
about to wake up. So I started to kind of
play around with this and asking my friends if they
would kind of like just see if you can hide something, right,
and I'm only to show the or just share with
you shan like kind of I don't I don't know
how I would show you the pictures. I can email
you later. But I said, okay, go gather some things
and go hidev then let me see if I can
tell you, like what you hid them in and what
exactly was in the box or whatever bang or whatever
it might be. So the first thing I said was, Okay,
here's kind of what I received. And I'm reading this
text between my friend and I, and I said, okay,
some type of a balloon, some a folded red sweatshirt
with black writing, you know it almost kind of like
a jersey, a brownish feathery wallet with contents, laid out cards,
pieces of paper. And the container was like I see
a small glass blue bottle versus cigar tight box, and
so you know, I'll show I'll try to see if
I can show us up to the screen. But that's basically,
oh what it is. You see the bottle, you see
the kind of the folded black and red item, and
then there's a box that'll have a cigar box and
nothing wallet. And so it was interesting to me that
that was in this front. Lives across the country, but
yet here I am being able to kind of determine
some of this stuff. And he later went on to
say how this balloon, granted it wasn't in the box,
but yet he is like haunted by this like blue
and silver star balloon that literally he'll be doing something
and like hiking in the woods and sure enough there
is this over you bluish star balloon. Then I'll just
be light there. Go on, go ahead, cham what's your questions?
Speaker 2: It just no, it's so nope, the balloon thing. Sorry,
h even before penny Wise and all of that.
Speaker 3: Nope.
Speaker 2: Okay, So, uh, your friend sets this box up and
then the balloon and all these other things, and those
are the targets, right, they call them targets.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know about this. So yeah,
you're gonna have to educate in I.
Speaker 3: Mean, I know very I just know that some of
the buzzwords.
Speaker 2: I suppose that's probably the end of my high knowledge.
Speaker 3: Of remote doing.
Speaker 2: Right, there is I know one word? So how long did,
so he puts these things away. How long was this?
Speaker 3: Okay, let me ruminate over this overnight. Did you sleep
on it? How did it you?
Speaker 4: I literally did this within a day or so. Mike,
you did it one evening. I said, okay, let me
sleep on it. I told him the next day.
Speaker 3: Told them the next day.
Speaker 2: How many things did you accurately guess?
Speaker 4: Well, there was only four items in the box, and
one of which was a maybe when he needed to check,
but I said, balloon be full of the red sweatshirt
and black writing. That turned out to be a Phillies,
you know, kind of a Philadelphia Flyers j hockey jersey
that he would always wear brownish flathery wallet that was accurate,
pieces of cards, pieces of paper, and he's like, I
am notorious for always having like little receipts, little pieces
of paper things that are write down to my wallet.
And I didn't know that containers. What I saw was
a small glass bottle that was accurate, seegar box that
was accurate water bottle, like a thermost. Well, there's like
a gold little I don't know if you can see it,
but like there's like a gold little thermos full of
the put liquid in so pretty pretty accurate enough to
where it freaked me out. It freaked him out a
little bit, I did to. I talked to another friend
where I said, okay, let's now Newton. He was in Colorado.
So this person was in Oregon, other friends in Colorado,
and I said, okay, well, let me try it again
and see what happens. And this time I can't Candidy,
I can't guess any contents what was inside the box,
not accurately enough. But I guessed the actual box perfectly.
This is where it was, I said, I saw this.
If you ever seen the movie hell Raiser, that cube,
it looked exactly like the hell Raiser cube. And so
I was able to see that now. Again, granted I
didn't see what was inside, but I saw the box,
and so I was like, okay, ay, least there. I
was trying to give myself a little credit for having
some type of ability to do this. It's like, okay,
fifty to fifty, but it kind of I didn't know
how far to explore this because again it was kind
of parent with the anxiety that was having at the time,
and didn't know how deep down this well. I wanted
to go and like what this would mean for you know,
my future self and just it's it's extremely will for
for my comfort, but yet kind of battling with well,
this could be very interesting, this could you know? Do
I want to do? I not want to, but I
leaned towards mostly of the not oneing to but ever
so often like I'll kind of cap into it to
be like, let me just see if this still holds up.
But when I started, so, I'm getting more towards the
big foot side of things before you.
Speaker 2: Go there, can I just interject really quick, I'm sorry.
So do you think and you won't know the answer,
but do you think that the fact that the two
different viewings for you these tests were different in their
success rate, do you think that is going towards your
connection with the people themselves or maybe their own abilities,
maybe that they don't even know that they have, right.
Speaker 4: I know, so the various dude question because the first
friend I did this with is very open to very
him and I are very connected and closer than the
Colorado friend. The Colorado friend is actually a little bit
more guarded on his things, and I think he would
also try to play tricks. So I but the fact
that I was able to like guess the box but
not the contents. He could have changed contents. That was
kind of my gut feelings that he changed contents like
or added something to it right or removed something so
I couldn't get a good read on it. But very
interesting question because yeah, totally, I think totally.
Speaker 2: Is the friend in Colorado? Uh good nod to the
Banshee chapter movie anyhow? Ah, sorry the Colorado friend? Is
this a skeptical person and then you guess the box?
And were they you know, was he blown away? Is
he like, oh oh my god, you got thet Did
it freak him out? Or you know, is he into
this stuff a little bit enough to not be freaked out?
Speaker 4: He focused more on things like, yeah, that's weird that
you guessed the box, but you didn't guess the contents,
so maybe you do you have yeah, like yeah, kind
of what one them up with them down type of thing.
Speaker 2: But your I would hazard to say that your thought
on him maybe being a little bit of a trickster
with the experiment, probably your first gut reaction to that
is is probably spot.
Speaker 4: On, I would imagine, So yeah, but it's also kind
of goes towards me knowing the individual. Whereas I think
what would be interesting is if I, I mean, I
can tit my toe in the water of ask to
someone boy I really don't know and seeing what would
happen there, we can do it.
Speaker 2: I mean, we know each other a little now, but
we've never met, and you know.
Speaker 4: We've I'm gain if you are.
Speaker 2: That would be an interesting experiment. I think that would
be very fun. Let's do that, okay O, stay tuned, everyone,
and let's see how that goes.
Speaker 3: Like put me on the spot.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know the movie Suspects Zero.
Speaker 2: I think it's Suspect Zero with Ben Kingsley, very dark
movie about remote viewing. It also has the guy that
played two Face.
Speaker 3: In the Dark Night.
Speaker 2: Yes, uh, that is a remote viewing movie. And what
he does, Ben is the remote viewer.
Speaker 3: And the way that he.
Speaker 2: Works through things is he sits and he it almost
seems like he's blacked out in a way. I suppose
that's not how it goes, but he sketches things out
and it's you know, it's a very cinematic thing where
it's he's furiously sketching and drawing and that's how things
come to him his target.
Speaker 3: When you were.
Speaker 2: Viewing the friend in Oregon's Items, how does that look
to you? You know when you realize it, does it
come as a as a snapshot of everything?
Speaker 3: Or do things come in pieces?
Speaker 4: No, it's actually like it took me to me following
him in the woods of where he kind of like
literally buried this box.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: And I was actually able to follow him watch him,
but like before he put the content like afraid of
the Boston the ground, he like showed me all the contents. Wow,
this is this, this is this, And again it was
kind of like this, here's their test. I'm gonna put
these things in this box. I'm show him to you,
put him in the box. Tell me how to now?
Now tell me for then you know that was in
the BIX in one of the boxes, like yeah, and
kind of the same thing with the Colorado friend, where
it was like here's the box, but then he like
turned his back to me and he didn't want to
show me what he was putting in the box. Hmm.
Speaker 2: Okay, before you go to the sasquatch, for sure, let's
let's go to this balloon for.
Speaker 3: A second, because because.
Speaker 2: Obviously the balloon is highly tied to your friend as well,
follows him around for whatever preps reason. Yeah, have you
thought to remote view what's going on with his damn balloon?
Speaker 4: I mean I have been, just because I mean he
told me initially, you know, I'm trying to kind of
look at this real quick to see what his response was.
So he had a dog that was kind of this
silvery blue type of dog. I guess right, he had
passed away years ago from when I did this experiment,
and I guess there was some anniversary that this half
excuse bean if this happened. He launched a blue object,
propelling himself through the air just above a tree top
level and turning rotate change directions, fly down into the
forest and disappear. So he swore it was like some
you know, anonymous object to what he calls, you know,
space egg. But he was convinced that what he would
have seen was a balloon. And then before the dog,
I guess passed away, he had a vision of him
communicating with it and asking this dog, I guess where
it came from. So there's this whole conversation. I guess
that happened in a dream state. He just meditating and
then I guess he ended up drawing this dog coming
to birth through a thirst space in a blue and
silvery sphere and the mini skate's a little heady, right,
But then he would go on to say that he
would be hiking in the woods and hills just again,
this is whether it's like a silvery bluish star balloon,
it's just kind of half deflated but like kind of
bouncing around and we'll come across that. And this happened
like a couple of times for this person. It's always
just this silvery bluish balloon. And I mean, it's just
that I can't I can't answer why. Maybe I could
sleep on that, but like, and that's that that would
trip anybody out. If there's just this continuous whether it's
a star, whether it's just a standard balloon, whether it's
like one of those Happy Birthday circular or you know
circular balloons. Either way, any tiny silver and buller's balloon,
and that's kind of popping around with you in the
in the woods, Like I don't know what to make that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly not normal, no matter what.
Speaker 4: I mean, extraordinarily amazing. And the fact that this person
still goes on the Woods, I think is even.
Speaker 3: More amazing, right, You're like you sure, you're okay? Yeah,
I mean it sounds like he has some ongoing activity.
Speaker 2: Obviously, it hazard to say if you if you sat
him down, he'd probably have some childhood experiences he could
talk about. I would that's just a guess. Okay, sasquaddle time.
How how are we now going to sasquatdle with this?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So I was exploring, you know, some spirituality things
and getting more tempted into like the universal side of
life and the way of just being human right as
some people do, and going to astrologists, talking to you know,
just totally people who you know can help you meditate,
you know over over you know, zoom or whatever they
can and kind of tap into your energy and things
like that over laptop over a call. Say okay, give
that a shot. But I would call this person exists
on them a couple of times, kind of like a spiritualist.
And that's when I said, you know, Ike told her
all of these instances. She was, Okay, well, maybe let's
just let's just sit with that. Let's just sit with like, yeah,
you can you see things you're you're tapped in let's
just sit with them and see what happens. Well, as
I was meditating and she was just kind of you know,
I don't know she was talking, but immediately I saw
little bits and pieces of the sasquatch, but a meme
that is like teeth, like you know, like I'm like
a smile, or like the back of the head or
like you know, eyes flipper, you know what. You was
just kind of playing like a movie. And I told them,
I was like, I don't know what to tell. Yeah, here,
but I am seeing flickers of like a sasquatch. And
she knew. I think she knew at that point that
I was like into that, and she was, okay, well
ask good question, and it's okay, well what's your name?
And but I got back which I've never heard this
name in my life. I don't watch a lot of
you know, Japanese or for any type of Asian type
of movie. So but the name I got back was Yuki.
So why U k I? And I didn't know why.
It was like Yuki is that? But the way I
heard it was very deep in Guttao. It was almost
like I heard this sasquatch say something, and I was
like okay. Well, and I told her that I don't
know what's going on here, but this is what's happening, okay,
and just keep going. So she did. I don't know
if she knew either, but she was like, let's just
see where this goes. And so I said, well, okay,
so your name is Yuki. But then it came into
like this human voice and she goes and she by
meaning like the saspatch was a female, and she goes, yes,
but my human name is Samantha. And at that point
I didn't know or like that name was just not
on my radar, and I was like okay, or you know,
Sam Samantha. I was like okay, And then kind of
from there on out, I would trying to kind of
tap into like let's just say this is all legit,
right for those who are listening, Let's just give it,
give it a breath, Let's just say that this is legit.
In talking to this Yuki female sasquatch lives somewhere Pacific northwest.
Let's just say because that's where I was always kind
of drawn to. And what would happen if I just
started saying, like, what are you doing? What's happening where
are you? And I kid you not, Like I would
get these flickers of this forest that I've never seen before,
never had been to, and it was her saying like,
see through me, this is where I am, this is
the forest, this is where I stay. And there would
be plenty of times where like I would see that
kind of that same like she would give me, you know,
and take this for what it's forth, but she would
give me kind of like these images like oh, you're
always kind of in the same area, Like let's like
do you live here? Just like yes, sleep here, I
live here, this is where I am. And so like
it was very challenging for me because not only am
I dipping my tone in like viewing now, I'm dipping
my toe into potentially communicating with a creature that how
many you know that more than half the world doesn't
believe exists. So like that's a hard it's a hard
line to kind of like bridge and like how do
I talk about that? Yeah? I think I might have
mentioned it to this friend in organ He's like down
with it, and we've we've gone out and we've tried
to kind of how they you know, see what would
happen if we you know, he brought me into the forest.
Maybe we talked to this thing. Well, this is where
we found ourselves. I won't mention the park specifically, if
that's all right, but yeah, of course we were in
Washington and then this is where you know, we had
a couple of you know, we had a couple of beers.
We're starting a fire and closed my eyes. But then
just the amount of images like triangles and shapes and
like fluorescent colors that our point. I don't smoke, I
don't do drugs. I've never had that experience with having
a couple of beers before. And you know, close him
as of a fire, like a doesn't hit you like that,
but something was hitting me, and you know, I was
trying to talk to you. I was like, yoh, maybe
this is where she is, and like maybe I'll try
to say, hey, Yuki, come come close here or not.
You know, we mean you no harm, whatever it is,
and we've like we even laid out sound frip for you,
like it's over here, it's across the river. If you
don't feel safe enough, like by all means you don't
have to cross, but if you feel like it was
trying to be as colergial as I could be, and
it never really it was kind of okay, I don't
I guess I have the sense that she's coming down
the mountain, like she's picking up this signal, and it's
not like she was showing herself to me in physical form.
Otherwise they could say I saw a sasquatch, but she
was showing herself to me and like the mentals like
it is a my eyes. I was like, holy goodness,
you are massive, like you are bigger than I would
have expected. And I mean it was almost like like
a mighty Joe, right, just this massive eight figure is there.
And that was kind of describing it to my friend
and he's like, okay, like go out. I'm just gonna
tell you don't see anything. That's like no, it's okay.
Let me just kind of keep describing you, like and
it was like, okay, thank you for the free This
is as much as I'm gonna do. Like I don't know,
I feel like I got maybe a sense of like okay,
you need to go in now, like that's it, Like
this is as much as a big chintapou at this
phot and bad. But then that night, Shannon, that's where
he got to just the weird just then started. But
I got super ill, and I mean his friends started
do all sorts of weird things. And by weird things,
I mean like I wanted to, you know, fix up
the camp at like two three am, and he was
just sleeping, and I didn't know if I was going
to be if you know, if I had some type
of food poisoning or if I was going through any
type of other issue. And then there was another we
actually had a third friend there who was going through
some type of anxiety and it was trying to help
you know, her out, and just really bizarre things we
were going on that night. So I don't know if
I I brought something in, if I was imagining it
like I that I cannot say. And the next morning
everything everyone was so kind of distraught about the naive prior.
We didn't even shake the fruit, like we didn't even care.
I was like, mits, let's just let's head out, let's
get let's get saying, let's get healthy again. But like
and even I felt better, but physically I even felt better,
and it just was a weird situation.
Speaker 3: Did you ever get a sense that.
Speaker 2: Or rather of how close physically the sasquatch came in,
did any of you get a sense of how close physically.
Speaker 3: One or more of than ever were to you?
Speaker 4: Not physically, I don't necessary mentally. I mean we had
a pretty good roaring fire and we were trying to
make ourselves very noticeable. I mean we may you know,
we may be heard stick pop here or there type
of a thing, but nothing that would cause us to
be super startled to be like, oh, definitely heard something.
It was just kind of like someone looking over and
be like anyone anyone catched that? Right? So yeah, I
wouldn't I wouldn't say super physical, So.
Speaker 2: Because that sounds like not a very fun time to
be honest, if if you could go out and get
more contact with Yuki in that way, would you still
want to go out and do that again and repeat
that process or you going, yeah, I think I'll just
do this from my living room instead.
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean it's a challenge. We were just
at a location kind of do some camping, and you
know what, I would say, fishing has a purpose, you know,
with a purpose, right, and I still you know it's
a challenge because I number one, I don't know if
I would ever want to experience seeing as asbush because
it just it's like brings it to wife, It brings
it the truth. I could stay, it's here, it exists,
Like how how much further down the wormholed it want
to be? Even though I'm fully but I believe down
the wormhole? Ready? How much further? Like that's always the question,
which I think kind of brings a little bit of anxiety.
And so, but we were at this location and it
was it was a your beautiful location, you know, lots
of fishing, There was other folks there and it just
so happened that, you know, and I brought a night
vision and of course this is probably where you know
amateur houer kicked in and always check her tools before
you go in the woods, because I mean this was
only like a four year old night vision thermle uh
you know, monocular and it did stop working. It's like,
oh perfect, So I guess, well.
Speaker 2: To your credit, really quickly, I would I mean, who
knows if this is true, but you may have checked
it at home.
Speaker 3: It would have been fine.
Speaker 2: And as we know, and lots of paranormal situations, batteries drain,
things just get kind of wonky, So that may not
have been you guys's fault.
Speaker 4: I thank you for the grace. Yes, I mean I
would settle at that. Yeah, a little bit also my fault.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I really do think that that may have
been exactly what happened. That thing may have even worked
in the car before you're really needing to use it,
because it's like somehow, I mean they or whoever knows,
it's just a test. They're like, oh, yeah, it's working
a okay, and then you go to actually use it
when you need it and nothing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. I mean that's happened to time or
two with like walkie talkies that you think you'll charge
them will be in the wood and just there's dead. Yeah, reporters,
they're just dead. But no, that makes sense. Although if
you or at least on the fence with the loose
side of sayspatch, like, it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2: Does that monocular? Did it work after you left?
Speaker 3: Again? The thermal?
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's still completely messed up. But like
I've never had this issue and I actually have to
send it back to the company and like this whole
rigging arole. So yeah, I don't know what happened to
that thing, but it's that.
Speaker 3: That's a bummer, because those are can be pretty it's.
Speaker 4: Expensive and like it's been in its box, like they
moved it from one location to the other and that
was it, And like you're meaning to tell me that
this thing is completely jacked up crazy. Yeah, if there's
anything about the story, it's fat. That's the crease of it.
But then we so we try to kind of go out.
One of the people that I was with heard this.
It was almost like an inhale, which I can't quite
They couldn't replicate it. I don't even know how to
replicate that, but it was like this inhale rowl. We
might have heard some rock tamping. And one night there
was actually one of the campers there had a dog.
I mean it's I was a little bit, you know,
probably younger, and had like you know, energy and all
that thing, and we were sleeping and or we were
getting ready to the bad rather yeah, kind of hear this,
I h I don't know. Again, it kind of sounds
like a dog chewing on something. You know, when they're
really intensive chewing on something. You kind of hear that
dog like doing that thing. But then you hear another
do some barking and get aggressive, and I was thinking, oh,
it must be another you know, that other couple who
have dogs and they're getting into it, you know, so
I thought really nothing of it. But then he just
got kind of intensified. Am the woman I suppose who
owned us, like black lab she just lets out this
shrill of a screen, which caused a lot of campers
to come out of where they were. Said other other
come out, wouldn't come check and see what was going out?
I I didn't, you know, and not. I don't know
if that would wrong with me. It seems wrong with
me as I'm saying it, but it's like, oh, well,
she's yelling for there's two dollars. She's yelling. Okay, I
get it right, Like what am I gonna do? But
later on I ended up talking to kind of the
owner of the campground, and these people had left the
next morning because what they saw was something big and
dark kind of go into the woodline, you know, snap
and pop a bunch of three linser sticks or whatever.
This dog, whether it was ran in to follow it
or did something, but ended up getting like a torn ear.
So they had to go to a bet and that's
what made them leave. And then I kind of asked
the owner of the place and they said, you know,
have you ever experienced any of this stuff? And he goes, well,
back in twenty nineteen, she was, you know, with the
family members something like that, and they were on a
four wheeler. She just went off one of these logging
roads and she saw this three to four foot not
even maybe like three and a half foot right figure.
And the best way that this woman could describe it, Channon,
was it had like the hair of the girl from
the Ring and it's kind of long and lanky. But
in them was where I was like, well, I don't
know what you saw, because she said that this thing
had them like a triangle hat. Yeah, it was all
she see was this figure in this hat was all
like kind of like a black and grayish color. So
I don't I don't know. A man would love for
someone to be like, oh, yep, that's this type of
cryptid or this is that type of you know, actra terrestrial.
This is a gray Maybe she saw it gray. I
don't know, an alien. I don't know, but that description
with like the hair and like the wearing almost like
a triangle hat, like like a pilgrim hat, Like what
are we talking about shere? And she almost she was like,
you know, I almost can't talk, but she frankly like
stopped talking to me about it because she just didn't
want to think about it. So interesting stuff going on
in that place that is very interesting?
Speaker 2: Have you in particular because I am not that my
brain always works so well like a steel trap, as
they say, no, h, have you ever heard of any
any in any subject a triangle hat?
Speaker 3: What that might be in relation to or a nod to?
Speaker 4: I couldn't even mat No, I have no idea what
it almost, And then my brain starts trying to think
of like what that could have meant? What she could
have seen was the hat? Actually the head? Was the
hat something like? Was it carrying of was it bouncing
a rocket? Its hat that looked like a try? Was
it that? But she mean, the unfortunate thing is that
this person didn't want to get into any more detail
and ya talk about it anymore, so I can only
kind of surmise. But then I don't know. If you're
familiar with very early genesis with Peter Gabriel, there's a
song called the Watcher of the Skies and early days
Genesis Peter Gabriel would kind of wear all these different
you know, theatrical costumes and things like that. If you
take a look at that, he has this like cape,
but then he's wearing this like head gear that's a triangle.
And that's what my mind kind of went to, is like, Okay,
maybe the cape was the hair, let's just say in
the head or the hat of this thing was actually
the head. But that's so a sasa wash depiction that
I don't know what you saw. But I also like, again,
this is where I and I don't know everything there
is about crypty zoology or aliens or anything like that.
Right where it's like I could see the alien part
being like the head, but where there's long hair like
the girl from you know, the ring, like that's the
that's it just doesn't make sense to me. Yeah, first
time I've ever in many years of this topic and subject,
have I ever heard something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a unique one.
Speaker 2: I mean, if it actually was a hat of some
sort and taking out whatever it was that you know,
it was on top of the hat itself just sounds
something more ritualistic or you know, costume like you mentioned
a cape.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who knows. But that's that's very unique.
Speaker 2: So if anybody out there, if this made anyone's ears
perk up, please reach out because we'd love to have
some kind of corroboration because anytime I go, I don't
think I've ever heard that before.
Speaker 3: It you know, as you well know, that doesn't often happen.
Speaker 4: So I did the same.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, right, yeah, that's that is very interesting.
Speaker 3: Okay, So before you.
Speaker 2: Continue, do you believe that since they can make people ill,
that they can also heal if they want to. If
this is what's going on, if these are sasquatch and
this is what's doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I feel like the fact that a
couple of things. If I look back at the you know,
Washington incident is what we'll call it, it's like it
was the idea that I was committing and communicating with you, Gene,
she said, Okay, this is in like I can't I
can't go further than this, and like this is also
where you're always you have to ask yourself questions like
it might just surely nuts? Am I in manching all this?
Like well, of course she couldn't come further, because then
she would have to show herself, and if she didn't
show herself, then I didn't say, right that type of
a thing. So it's like, well, but she didn't show herself,
and she'd in my mind's eyes, she tip this fruit,
maybe had a handful of it and left. But then
what happened that night with everyone kind of getting ill,
whether mentally or physically or you know, the one person
kind of was bring around gamp in the middle of
the night and then just doing weird things. It was like,
was that something else? And this is where I kind of,
you know, you start guessing what's happening, you know, in
reality and what you're in the thoughts and all sorts
of things where it's like, okay, well then did you
cannot show yourself because there's this other bigger creature entity
who wanted to kind of like, you know, just study
us or do whatever. Been thinking like nothing was taken,
Like we didn't get any tree knocks or any knock
the trees can knock down, or there was like it
was all pretty chill besides just this stirring of people
and like just that more you know, then you know,
is there some negative spiritual entity that is here open
things up for amusement. Like that's what it seemed like.
It just seemed like this was not It seemed like
the if there was an energy, it was let me
see how much I can mess with these people if
I had a guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was actually the very next thing that
I wrote down. I put deception, demonic the D word
anxiety and stress because then, as you well know, I'll
say it again, anytime there's anxiety, stress, all these things
going on, they they say that you are more susceptible
to being deceived and to have dark things kind of
attached to you in some way. And yeah, maybe maybe
that's the nail on the head with the whole thing. Yeah,
And does that also mean that that ties in with
your remote viewing abilities? You know, not that I'm saying
you're not.
Speaker 3: Doing it, but.
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe maybe all of it is tied
in somehow.
Speaker 4: I think it's there's there's some sensitivity that I am
kind of acknowledging that I have and you know, been
interested in this topic and you know, the paranormal for
a long time, ever since a child, and being very
drawn to the spiritual side and even and I'll say
something too that like I've not really or totally imuven
family members about the way being very and having the
thought that I've we've like we've we've been here before,
almost a Buddhist type of mentality, but having that thought
as a young child and thinking wait, have I been
here before, and kind of having this feeling of oh,
you'll know later that you you've been here before, that
we've we've all been here before, that we're this is
a cycle. Wait, it's funny enough. I'm you know, I'm
not Buddhist, but that sure seems to be like I
think the Buddhist from what I understand, like the Buddhist
you know, belief is that this is a very sick
little wife and things like that. But so even as
a very young kid and talking like six or seven,
like this is where I would have those thoughts and
question like, well, what is it?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: What is life? How did we get here? What is
what am I supposed to learn? All those were very
young for me, and so I would always kind of
consider myself very sensitive to that. And it was with
someone in high school and they were also that way.
So it was kind of like this kids meant you know,
very twin Wi like energy and following them to college
and they ended up actually asking away in a car accident.
And but the crazy thing was is that literally this
was maybe that might be like a month or so
prior we had a conversation of Okay, if one of
us passes away, you have to haunt the other, right,
And so sure enough if like we had a conversation,
then we were in was in one location, I moved
and like get the news that this person passed away.
But it was very close to I mean, we wedated,
we were very connected, so that was super hard. But
it was almost like again just kind of this theme
of you're you're tapping in something that's yet to happen
under worriage. You're kind of seeing through this veil a
little bit. And I mean, I gotta tell you, in
like my day to day life, I don't think about
this because it's just it's a lot to handle to me,
and it's just easier not to. But that's here to
kind of just watch the ball game and not think
about the weird stuff, Like I am why I just
want to be maybe one of those people right who
like just watches sports and things like that, but it's like, no,
there's always going to be this like other side, and
so in one of I mean again the reason why
this person was so drawn to them and they were
into raiki. Their mom was into reiki. And I remember
being on the reiki table and you know, for anyone
who doesn't know, reiki is like energy healing, but it's
without touch, so it's truly just some kind of gliding
their hands maybe like an inch or so off your
body and you can feel it, but you can feel that, right.
There's one time where I was on the table and
this you know, this amazing mom that this person had,
you know, put her hand over my quote unquote through
the eye and opened it. And I remember looking up
at her and jumping literally jumping off the table because wait,
were my eyes open or were they closed? Because I
didn't know, and she goes, no, I just opens your
third eye, and I'm like, can you close it because
I just saw you clear as day, and she's like, well,
we can try, so I'm out. Yeah. I mean it
was literally I saw her looking over me with her
eyes closed, and it was like, okay, well wait a minute, so.
Speaker 3: Did she try?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 2: Did she have you lay back down and try to
close the third your third eye.
Speaker 3: Do you think that was ever closed or.
Speaker 4: I would suspect that, like, yeah, okay, it's closed, like
once you acknowledge it, and like it's opened, and I
was closed, Like I don't know if it was like okay,
now it's closed. You can try closing your eyes, do
you see me? No, okay, it's closed, right, So like
we didn't. It was just but that I don't know
if that was like the Genesis literally did call that
word out again, if that was the start of all
of this or just the pledgement of all of this.
But there's certainly periods of my life where just like, yeah,
that's okay, you know, freeze frame, that's a moment. That's
a moment, and trying not to get overwhelmed by all
the moments of the freeze frame that I have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which with all that could be very easy to do.
Speaker 2: I mean, note to self, go to a ki Master
and get your third epop because I've certainly needed something
happened for a long time.
Speaker 3: Careful what you wish for though, right, So.
Speaker 2: Before you continue on, did you end up having any
activity after this very close friend of yours.
Speaker 4: Past after what I would say is the dog got attacked.
Now that was it. But wh're so that's I guess
to go about your questions, Like, it doesn't really prevent
me from going back out there in the forest, right
because I think that there is something to be. You know,
there's there's adventurely, there's excitement. I just don't want it negative.
Like that's to me, my biggest like why does it
have to be that? Man? You know, I kind of
get into my like real like earth shoes, like grass
streets just just melow out right type of thing. But
it's it's concerning in like if something does show itself,
for if we do have an experience. I mean this time,
I'm going out with very close friends and family, and
I don't want them to have a negative experience. You know,
I don't want to have that type of negativity. We're
just simply going out there to try to, you know,
have some type of vibe encounter, but not a negative one. Right.
So what I thought was what's challenging with that is
like when we went to Washington, it's like we had
zero intention at least I in like this other person,
like these were two people. We didn't have any negative
intensions at all, So why why this story? And so
go ahead the other question?
Speaker 2: Sorry, Yeah, So maybe that's why that goes back into
our thinking of maybe it is something else, just kind
of going, oh, you're gonna step aside my turn time
to you know, messing with a messing with humans time.
Speaker 4: Right, Maybe that's why you was like, this is as
far as I can go, because right, I can't show myself.
I can't be here. You shouldn't be here. These about
you like Now, in hindsight, I guess I wasn't picking
up that message. But the funny thing is going back
to the triangle hat. That was the image that I
kept seeing when I closed my eyes was just this
like red and orange, like truly like a flaming kind
of triangle. M So I don't know again if anyone's
listening knows what the hell that is in demology, and
that'd be great to know, because if that's that's what
we're tapping into, I don't want that.
Speaker 2: It makes you wonder if and I suppose there would be,
because most things have hierarchies and seniorities of some sort.
I suppose if you're out in the woods and UK
wants to talk with you, and Uki's cool, she's laid back,
she's not gonna mess with you.
Speaker 3: But then these other yeah, if these other things come in,
maybe she has to go. I'm out. I don't.
Speaker 4: When I kind of looked at like I felt as
if she was like the Guardians of the Steak. Yeah,
kind of guiding me and like drawing me someone closer.
And then we just happened to be in this perk.
It's like, Okay, that's where you are, and you're able
to come down this mountain as quickly as she did.
But then to be like this is it, like you
are you gonna go? You should probably go type of
a thing, and like I just wasn't picking it up,
like that's not nice.
Speaker 2: So she did say you should probably go before, like
before things went down.
Speaker 3: Really she did say that to.
Speaker 2: You, not in so many right, but when you look back,
you're going, that's.
Speaker 4: What But I was like, oh, that's what she was signaling. Yeah,
it's this is like a quick hit. I'm here, I'm
going to acknowledge you. I'm gonna show you how big
I aint like kind of show you this silhouette of
myself massive, just yeah, huge head shoulder like I would
have felt that that was a yeah ten foot fourteen foot,
I mean, just a massive male. Well I doubt i'd
expect it, but oh wow, you were a massive female
like that was just that kind of played back and
forth in my mind a little bit. But yeah, I
didn't if if she was leaving me the breadcrumbs of okay,
I'm heading down, No I'm not gonna show myself because
that's too much and have a good night. We'll take up.
I didn't. I didn't. You know then some way think, well,
a bit of a garden guardian, is she if she's
not gonna like leave now right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's like have fun with the others.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what I have listened? What we have said? What
I I don't know if I would have said, all right,
well you told that saspotch that was kind of connecting
with she said we should probably leave, Like, would we
have listened right right? So it's just challenging.
Speaker 3: I mean I wouldn't have.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you probably wouldn't have either, even if she
said straight out there's other things out here. They've got
eyeballs on you too, You're not gonna have a great night.
Speaker 3: Maybe I would probably like that. I mean, we're out
here for this, right.
Speaker 4: If that was the message I would have received, I
would have probably said something but like okay, well then
let's just make it a quick night. But like no,
that's when everything happened. I mean, right, everyone everyone was
in dead, asleep and then bam, like physical sick, mental,
like anxiety, someone wandering around camp and they were also sleeping,
trying to like gather things up. It's like what for what?
And it just was such a stir as. I can
kind of keep coming back to.
Speaker 2: See and without this three to four foot tall figure
with the Samara hair and the triangle hat, if that
was not in the picture, I might lean, and who knows,
it might still be this, but I would lean more
towards her mate or some other bigfoot from another quote
unquote clan coming in in and messing you know, an
infotsound or whatever.
Speaker 3: The situation that was going on on there.
Speaker 2: But with this other entity creature, whatever the heck is,
it's another.
Speaker 4: It wasn't coming from her. Yeah, that's all I can say.
Like if there is a ugi out there, and I said, yees,
just because I try not to like go down that route.
I mean, I just from my own I think mental capacity.
It is like I gotta, I gotta maybe calm it down.
And I don't know why, but that's just kindam where
I lean towards, probably because this could give really deep,
really quick, and I don't know how far deep I
want to go. Yeah, I understand that, but I think
she she had good intentions. Whatever affected us did not
have good intentions. And that's also where it's like wherever
you go campaign, I mean, there are there's energy everywhere
you walk into a gas station, you can feel a
negative energy like m M. And there's a reason for that.
At least that's where I I mean, I don't don't
again I don't. I don't know if it's because I
do kind of self declared sensitive, but although I've heard
it being told for me from other folks, but it's like, yeah,
that's where I just I don't. I want to have
a good time if we have an interesting experience where
we see something walking across the woods, like a Patty
from the Patterson give On footage, Okay, cool, like that
was there was didn't seem to be any type of
a threat there. Like that's when I'm looking forward to
versus anything else.
Speaker 2: Once you got home, did you try to connect with
Yuki and ask her, Hey, what the heck was.
Speaker 3: Up with all that? Did you get any information?
Speaker 4: Great question. I put it on the shelf for a while,
just because the you know, one of the friends again
just they never had from what I understood in type
of anxiety and they were having a massive kind of attack,
and it was like, that's not something I you know,
and I think candidly I already knew the answer was, No,
that's not something that she did. That's something else. I
don't know, you know, she couldn't potentially say what it was,
althoughase maybe she would have already said it, but then
she would again kind of continue to show me, or
at least I would have these images of the forest
and what she's doing, where she's at, and like, you know,
just kind of no visit the force. Everything's calm like.
And maybe in that there's like the reason, like I know,
the areas the forests that are calm and that are home.
And there's other areas where you don't go to, just
like potentially any other metropolis of a you know, state
or city, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's bad alleyways you don't go down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's just partstown, the same world, just different locations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just walked down a bad alley, that's all.
Speaker 3: So you kind of said, that's a real demony alley.
Speaker 7: We're in a.
Speaker 3: It's like east Side Vegas. Let's go.
Speaker 2: So you're going, I'm from east side. So sorry, if
anyone's listening, I'm from east side Las Vegas. So that's
me making fun of myself. Okay, everybody, Uh okay, So
I'm sure I have a couple of people listening. Lookal
they what the hell?
Speaker 3: Shannon?
Speaker 2: Uh So you said you're going out soon again and
you're going to have some family members and things.
Speaker 3: So are you gonna go out.
Speaker 2: And and have the same intention and close your eyes
and try to talk to Yuki and try to connect
in that way? Are you gonna go out and try
to close yourself off as much as you can?
Speaker 4: I think my angle is to have the hardest part
with that is like I can't prove this, this feeling
or these thoughts. That's the hardest bit. Like, yeah, I
can have you bury something in the backyard and me
tell you what it is and what you buried it in,
But like I don't know where's the explanation that? But
I think that, to me is the hardest part. And
so even if I were to do that and meditate
and have you know, God forbid, I would have you
know the same triangle shape and be like, okay, buffle
up everyone, like either that or we gotta get out now. Yeah,
I would think that it's I just want the more
the grounded physical. Yeah, I heard a snap pop, how'll
you know smell? Like more? How are the senses? But
not necessarily like the sixth seventh? The fuck if that's
what you could call it, right, Like, then okay, let's
let's cover the five. I'm cool, But then anything beyond that,
like that's and this is with this conversation, it's like,
that's what I have to now think of, and I've
been thinking of ever since we've booked this trip. Is
even the past trip I was on is like all right,
am I ready? Like that's constantly the question. And I
think of a lot of bigfooters out there that like,
what are you doing out there? If I'm you know, yeah,
of course you're always ready all the time. It's like,
but you hear of people who say that and they're
not ready, Like You're never ready is kind of my
experience with all the literature I've read and all the
you know, wars, and the fact that like people have
gone to such extense E've been like you know, having
friend zone where it's like they've gone to a certain
side and realized that either you're not coming back or
the side is not what you think it is, and
that is I'm sorry, I thought that was pretty profound.
Can you get a little bit of propster Shannon?
Speaker 3: I enjoyed. I was just I wanted to make sure
I interrupt that die like that.
Speaker 4: I was again, you're like, night drop, Yeah, so there's
your fortune cookie for it today. But yeah, it's like
that to me is the mind bisling a bit of
It's like, oh man, I just want it to be
like this, like you know, Relic holming it, like let's
let's let it be that. Like even though I think
in my heart of hearts, there's probably something more to
it than that, which is there's not that crowd in
the Bigfoot community. I think it's a even know, a
little bit smaller, so which it's a little bit more
in finding and it's like, if you know, I don't
know how confident I am in a my ability or
you know, be my willingness to kind of come up
with that, because it since it's a that's a different
it's a different, Yeah.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: You even just begin to bring up anything like that
and gars to bigfoot, and you'll get attacked for it.
So and I'm sorry, So you will be sitting in
a camping chair and closing your eyes or you don't
know yet if you're gonna and you know, I don't
want to pin you on it.
Speaker 3: Maybe you just don't know, if you're just gonna feel
it out. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if this is a cheap but
you know, comedic way of But it's like, let's see
what happens after a couple of beers. Like that's when
I get my little very cocky and so like we'll
see it's a little bit of that, like you know.
Speaker 2: But maybe that also is part of just relaxing your
mind and whatever the gateways are that open you up
to those.
Speaker 4: Oh I think it's too you know totally it linquid courage, right,
So it's just like, oh, I'll try that and I'll
happy to report back. Yeah, yeah, I'll give a shout
why not, right, I mean mental or physical sickness.
Speaker 3: I built those are paths, Yes, eventually hopefully.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm just kidding so and if this is too personally,
you can just tell me to squash this. But this
line of questioning everyone that's going out with you, are
they aware of of.
Speaker 3: What's going on and maybe what could happen.
Speaker 4: I'd probably have to explain it to them a little
bit more, but they certainly don't know of this past
experience that I'm sharing, which is some listeners aimed to myself.
I admittedly agree that, like you're about to share this,
you know, covertly with listeners, but yet not these people.
It's like, well, yeah, because that could open up a
bunch of worms for the mechanical worms for them that
they don't need. So and if anything, I'm protecting them
and not the listener. So sorry everyone, Wait, that's kind
of player.
Speaker 3: I'm a yeah, I know, I do understand that.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: I do hope you report back. I know that you will, and.
Speaker 2: I haven't forgotten about our little our own RV test.
If you're if you're up for it, we can touch
based on that.
Speaker 3: That's that would be interesting.
Speaker 2: I will warn you though, because of my line of
questioning as far as whether it's your connection with the
person or how sensitive.
Speaker 3: They might be. It could be a combination of both. Right,
you may not have a very easy time with me
because I'm not sensitive at all.
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, I mean I do have a question
for you, but I don't know if I want to
ask it on the air or off.
Speaker 2: But it's about someone, Okay, so you can Yeah, let's
let's just because if I want it in it'll be
too late.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you go ahead.
Speaker 4: And this is just a person's name. Is there someone
named Mark that you know? No? Okay, cool, that's on your.
Speaker 3: Not yet, Okay, someone named Mark. There's up my door.
Later I am getting.
Speaker 4: A hold of you Amazon drivers name Mark, so help me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he came right through the front window or
something crazy, right, like, well there's Mark for you. I mean,
I do know Marx, but nobody that you know jumped out.
That's anything going on right.
Speaker 4: Now, But I'd rather have that. So that's where I'm like, Okay,
and good.
Speaker 2: I will hazard to say though it's probably not just nothing.
I mean can say you know what I'm saying. Considering
how our universe works and all the things that you've
told me and all the things I've heard over ten years,
it's probably not nothing. I'm just not putting it together
right now. I'm not trying to make it into something
it's not. I'm just saying, yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, and everything kind of reveals itself, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: It does, it does, So I will keep that.
Speaker 2: In my mind, and uh, you know, obviously we're in touch,
and we'll just see what happens something that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2: But if something you know, over the top happens that's
something different that I wouldn't be able to make happen
or control, then that's that's something.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, yeah, I'm going to tell me. And it's
hard because when I ask the question, because sounds late. Okay, Now,
I'm going to do the show, and I wonder if
I could tap into something prior to the show to
kind of talk to you about it. And I think
it gets a little bit sensitive. So that's why I
guess I don't want to mention it. But like I
was like, okay, well, what's your name? I heard Mark,
but then I heard another name. And the tricky thing
about kind of doing all this when you're in like
this weird it's not rem sleep, but you're in this
kind of awake get dreaming. It's very kind of fluid.
Is that you kind of tend to forget stuff unless
something is super like remember this, which is kind of
the signals that I get have rather But yeah, that's
if I can think of the other name, or if
it comes back to me that I'll share.
Speaker 8: It with you.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I was gonna say, what's the other name?
But yeah, if that pops in, let get in touch,
let me know. But I appreciate you being willing to
share all this so far, and hopefully it's an ongoing
situation positive though, right, we don't need any more sickies
or anxiety and all this other stuff.
Speaker 3: Positive all the way around.
Speaker 4: So thank you, Yeah, no, dig you soon.
Speaker 9: Well I'm sorry.
Speaker 8: So I was given the name by my parents.
Speaker 3: My business.
Speaker 6: I've been out of college, I've done these things in
my profession. I produce a little bark. But it says
forget it, that that's some story that's all gone, that's
all passed. I want to see the really you who
are now, But nobody knows.
Speaker 5: Who then as.
Speaker 6: Because we don't know ourselves except for listening to argos
and consulting a memorials.
Speaker 7: But then that's a really And.
Speaker 6: Then again it's aspect for this question.
Speaker 4: Who are you? That is the meaning.
Speaker 6: We shall see how they play with this, except by
the cars to get.
Speaker 9: You do come out of the show. I'm fospeaks, steps.
Speaker 5: Stops, speaks, send me more example.
Speaker 7: They will say, no, we don't believe truly in reincarnation
that after your funeral grow you will saddenly become someway different,
there being somewhere else.
Speaker 6: They will say, reincarnation means this that if you're sitting
here now, are really.
Speaker 8: Convinced that you're the same.
Speaker 9: Person the founding at the door half an hour ago,
and you'll be reincarnated.
Speaker 4: If you're liberated with real as now that you're done.
Speaker 6: The past hasn't interest, The future doesn't insistent.
Speaker 4: There is only the present.
Speaker 9: That's the only amenium there is.
Speaker 8: The zen Masters don't get in the space in the
spring does not become the sumthing.
Speaker 6: First there is something, and then there is spring.
Speaker 10: It's it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's.
Speaker 8: Posts t s is't has the same idea.
Speaker 6: Where he says when you settle down in the train
to read your newspapers, and you're not the same person.
Speaker 5: Uh, if you think you are.
Speaker 8: You are linking your movements up in the check and
this is what binds the.
Speaker 7: Wheel of both. There when you know that every moment
which you are is the only moment.
Speaker 6: This comes inos air. The master will say from somebody,
I cannot have a walk across the road and it
can be back. And he says, where are your footmen?
Speaker 4: They've gone a book, So where are you?
Speaker 6: Who are you? When we are asked who we are,
we usually give a kind of recitation of an instrm
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