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a guy that does work very well. He's one of

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the best beat writers in the state of Utah.

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Speaker 3: Call him the right hand man. He was down at

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Boots on the ground. They're in or Lando. We got

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Sean Walker of kisl dot com. Sean, thanks for joining

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us today.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brett.

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Speaker 4: It's always a pleasure to be on with you guys,

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especially when I know you could have gone the LJ.

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Martin of the BIU Beat. I know you could have

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gone to Jack Kelly of the BYU Beat. But when

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those guys are hurt, it's a pleasure for the jovetic

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community of the BYU be to be joining you.

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Speaker 2: Sean.

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Speaker 1: Here's the real boots on the ground journalism question that

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we need answered about Orlando. We heard that there was

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a little taste test situation going on with deep fried

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poptarts and all kinds of other crazy stuff, and as

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someone who was not there, I need you to tell

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me how unreal that experience was and how many different

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types of pop tarts you had.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna beleave the fifth on this question for the

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most part, but I will tell you this, Brett, how

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many types of pop tarts that I have? The answer

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is way too many, way too many for those who

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a gluten free lifestyle. I was diagnosed with a gluten

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allergy several years ago. Life changing, game changing and everything

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of the world, but being gluten free might be the

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worst thing possible for a bowl game sponsored by the great,

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the one, the only, uh are gods of the college

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football world, the pop Tarts. So yes, I did indulge,

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and no, I will not be commenting further on what

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Speaker 2: I won't comment either.

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Speaker 3: I know what happened with those I can confirm there's

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a source close to the program that told me that

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Sean Walker did divulge in one deep fried pop tart.

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Speaker 4: The deep the deep fried pop Tarts. Though, if you,

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if you get an opportunity, do it, do it. Don't

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even think about it, just go uh do it. I'm

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actually a little bit jealous of the Michigan and the

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Texas reporters this week because the Pop Tarts Bowl and

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the Citrus Bowl, excuse me, the cheese at Citrus Bowl.

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get a cheese it breaded turkey lake, so a turkey

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just gonna use two words to describe that worth it. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: What I want to know is like, how special were

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these deep fried pop starts? Like, if I have a

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deep friar at home? Am I able as the layman

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Speaker 1: Could I reh reinvent those?

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so the pop arts who actually have and maybe this

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is a little bit of capitalty journalism, they have specialty

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chefs for a lot of their pop tarts bolt specific creations,

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so it's more than just deep fried pop tarts. They

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pop tart turned into uh, I guess it's a parfait

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my favorite one. But they have, like they have like

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specialty chefs for all of these things. So could you

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defry a pop tart at home? Yeah, would it be

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Speaker 4: I don't know how good a deeper Maybe you're maybe

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you're a professional deep fryer. Brett. I'm not going to

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hold you back, so I would say go for it,

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question Mark. But I would definitely like to compare the two.

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Speaker 1: Well, my my in laws gave me a deep fryer

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for Christmas. Let's see how many days ago, five or

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six days ago, So that'll tell you.

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Speaker 6: How much of an expert I am.

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Speaker 1: But I just saw something like that, and I'm like,

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that is so disappointing that that that I can't partake

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and I can't dry. So I'm glad to know that that,

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despite things trying to hold you back, Sean, you still

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did journalism to the best of your simple ability by

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partaking in hop Tarts.

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Speaker 2: We will we want you to know.

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Speaker 4: All in the name of good journalism.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of good journalism, you did some good journalism. Wonderful

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piece at you, Pindo kissl dot com. B Yu gets

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that twelfth win shot of the season in the Pop

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Tarts Bowl. First time It's happens to two thousand and one.

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spring ball? With that twelfth win, especially with all the

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chaos right now going on at b YU with coaches,

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coaches may be making moves for their future.

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I think year to year momentum is a little bit

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of a misnomer nowadays because rosters changed for the transfer

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portal coaching rosters change so much during the carousel season.

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expect this roster at BUYU this past fall to be

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to be the same next year as it was this year.

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they're gonna lose some players. They've already got about five

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or six that are in the transfer portal right now,

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and I think more probably the follow cover your ears,

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Cougar fans if you don't want to hear that, But

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that's just the reality of modern college football. The transfer

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portal giveth and the transfer portal also take it away,

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right So if you want to go and kind of

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stock up and and figure out new additions to your roster,

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you've got to be willing to maybe lose a piece

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or two in order to kind of give that away.

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so the transfer portal kind of serves as that mechanism

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in addition to to college football's own version of free agency.

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But as far as momentum goes, I think what Kline

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Sataki and his team did this season will give it

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as much momentum as you can probably as you can

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possibly have in this sport nationally, maybe short of you know,

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whichever one of the teams the quarterfinals start tomorrow, so

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which every one of those teams goes on and wins

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the college with the twenteen College football playoffs. You you know,

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it was a out a month ago that BYU was

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on the precipice of losing its head coach and Kline

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Sataki reportedly working on a deal to go to Penn

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State for an eight figure salary. BYU and its donors

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and administrators and even just average everyday fans and several

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of the players that kind of rallied and they kept Sataki,

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and that decision, I think is going to give this

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team as much momentum as you can possibly get because

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there are going to be players that stay at BYU

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hoping to build off of what they were able to

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do this past season twelve and two. Overall, they only

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lost one team this year they lost lost Tech Tech twice. Right,

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it's the most wins in a single season since two

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thousand and one, only the fifth or sixth time in

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program history that BYU's reached that twelve win plateau. And

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there are players that want more, and they want to

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come back, and they want to do more at BUYU.

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We saw almost immediately after the bull get that tree.

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Alexander is coming back. I believe. I believe The caption

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on this Instagram post was was it said somebody to

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the effect of committed to bring up Young University. So

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he's trading it for the long haul. You know, he's

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not just following a coach or playing for a coach.

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He wants to be at YU. Specifically, Kanu Tonavasa sounded

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pretty sure of himself. I don't want to take away

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too much thunder from him, but he's not pretty sure

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of himself. But Kianu Tonavasa wanted to come back for

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another year. I'd be surprised if bart Bachmeier left barring

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you know, something unforeseen that we haven't seen, right, now

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and when you're able to build off of what that

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true freshman starting quarterback did. I think that'll help. I

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think some offensive linemen are going to return. Obviously they've

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got some holes to fill there, especially in the interior

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with departures of guys like Wale and Lapojo. I think

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that will be significant. I say Jada as well. These

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are all just players that are that are out of

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the eligibility. But I think when you're looking at momentum,

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it's very hard to get that year to a year

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in the modern era of college football. And BYU is

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doing as good of a job as anybody can in

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building off of itself year over year over year, and

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I expect that to continue, mostly because the headman, Klaie Sataki,

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is in charge for the long term, foreseeable future.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like BYU is maybe disadvantage is the

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wrong word, but they're in talks. I mean, we know

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the Jay Hill rumors going around, other coaching rumors going around.

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Do you see that affecting BYUS capability to pull in

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high level talent with the transfer portal window about to open.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as long as there are question marks, I think

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it will affect BYU's capability. But again, remember the transfer

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portal give it and the transfer port will also take

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it away. There are players on other teams that are

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gonna want to play at BYU for whatever connection that is.

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out of high school in the recruiting game. Maybe it's

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somebody that they missed out even one or two times

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in the transfer portal already that are pop it back

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up into the portal. Maybe that's somebody that we're not

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even thinking of right now, Like they are going to

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be players that want to play at BYU. So I

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think there are a lot of question marks right now

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just because we don't know what they's coordinator situation is

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going to look at at the moment. But I also

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expect those question marks to if they don't fully solve themselves,

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will be a peer picture will be a lot clearer

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by the time that portal window opens on January second.

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Remember this is the only transfer portal window that college

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football will have this year. It's one fifteen day windows

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starting January second. There is no post spring window. That's

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that's a new thing. As voted on by I think

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by the Football oversight Committee and one of those five

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hundred thousand roughly committees that governs NCAA Division one football,

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you're seeing the coaching carousel market kind of expedite itself

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to the point where, you know, we're on the precipice

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of the college football playoff quarterfinals and there are currently

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at the moment, I believe there is not a single

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head coach opening in all of Division one FBS football.

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I mean, that's absolutely remarkable for right now. But because

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so many universities kind of win the overdrive during the

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season and then immediately following the end of the regular

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season to where they want to have somebody in place

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right away. Now, does that mean there won't be more

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changes in the go to market. Absolutely not. I even

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think we're probably going to see, if nothing else, at

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least one or two more head coaching changes, probably somebody

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that winds up leaving January February. Maybe the NFL goes

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and pulls somebody from the college ranks up to the NFL,

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and then that sets off kind of a mini coaching carouself,

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if you will. But I do think the by is

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going to have a much clearer picture in the next

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forty eight or seventy two hours, by the time that

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January second window opens, just like everybody else, because that's

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when you really have to get going on this new

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version of free agency.

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Speaker 1: This is kind of a speculative question, but I I

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just I'm just thinking out loud here. I'm curious to

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know what that portal is gonna look like, Sean, Like,

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are we gonna have like are we gonna see just

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a flood of people committing on Friday?

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Speaker 6: Or do you think what's more likely is.

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Speaker 1: That we get till that last day because everybody is

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gonna wait until those final offers come in, and so

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we're really not going to get answers from most people

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until the end of that portal.

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Speaker 4: Brett Hammer, are you implying that there may be college

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football programs and coaches who have been contacting players before

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the official opening of the transfer pot.

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Speaker 1: I would never assume anyone in college football would do

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anything underhanded like that, Sean, especially not the SEC.

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Speaker 4: There's there's a word. There's a word for that. It

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starts with the key is that it's tambourine, camberine, temptation, temptation. Yeah,

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I can't remember the exact word. Yeah, temptation, maybe it's

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probably temptation.

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Speaker 2: Tempting.

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Speaker 4: No, we all know how we all know how the

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system works. Right, Guys, there are guys that are in

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the portal or that are excuse me, intending to go

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into the transfer portal, let me get my nomenclature right

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at this very moment, that are also entering the portal

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with a little thing called the DNC. I do not

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contact TACK. So they have a pretty good idea of

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where they want to go, whether that's for nefarious reasons

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or just simply that you know, they there's one place,

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that one or two places that they want to go to,

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and they want to be in charge of kind of

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making those conducts themselves. I'm not really here to say

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I think it probably works both plays, but but I

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would tend to agree with your first point, Brett, that

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I think the majority of this transfer portal window action

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is probably I don't know if that happens in the

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first hour or two that the portal is open, but

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in the first day or two I could see the majority,

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certainly more than fifty percent of transfers starting to take place.

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say a piece that I know college football fans don't

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like talking about little much, but there is still a

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college part of college football, and most universities in this

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country are on the semester system, where these football players

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do also have to enroll in their new college buy

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or around the start of their new college semester. So

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like yes, there are quarter systems, there are late semester

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starts at a handful of universities in the country, but

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for the most part, we are also still working on

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an academic calendar, and so I think there is there

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are legitimate but legitimate and maybe slightly less legitimate reasons

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for the portal comaginations to be wrapped up earlier rather

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than later in that cycle. And I think that's also

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another part of the reason why coaches are so adamant

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that they only work in one transfer portal window per year.

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There are always ways around it. Look at how Jake

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Retzov moved from DYU to Tulaine last summer. I mean

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that didn't above a transfer portal window or technically a

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transfer at all, So there are still ways around it.

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But I do think that kind of like signing periods,

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and we just saw with the early signing period, I

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think the bulk of those transactions will be accomplished within

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the first day or two, and then you know, maybe

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a couple of big names will kind of trickle through

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the rest of that fifteen day window and you'll see

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sort of the trickle down effect from some of those transfers.

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early rather than later.

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Speaker 5: For sure, you'll.

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Speaker 3: Definitely see it sooner rather than later. I definitely agree, Sean,

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let's go this whole portal talk coach. It changes all

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of that could happen. I need to know who are

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the candidates to replace ja Hill if he does decide

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to even go to Michigan, And obviously I know those

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candidates could change it depending if he takes personnel staff

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with him. He's totally allowed to take whoever you want.

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and coaching carousales. But please tell the listeners who are

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the candidates, because I don't know if people really know

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who's going to replace him. I think people just think

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it could be internally, but I've also maybe hurt externally

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as possible as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the number one candidate to be BYU's

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defensive coordinator right now, because nothing is official, nothing has

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been formally pushed over the line, it's still J Hill.

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I think BYU wants to keep J Hill. They want

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to do everything they possibly can to retain J Hill.

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And the fact that this thing isn't finalized and inked

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and the press release isn't dry if you will, I

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think that means that the YU is still trying to

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do everything possible to retain Jay Hill. So we need

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to start there. But obviously there are reports, there are rumors,

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there are some anonymous sources that are floating out there.

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I've been able to confirm a couple that there are

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legitimate talks between Jay Hill and Michigan, and it seems

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like things are trending in that direction for Jay to

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follow his former defensive coordinator Kyle Whittingham to Ann Arbor.

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So in that case, I think you probably stayed within

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the within the building. First, the first call, if I

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had my brothers about me to be the next defensive

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coordinator at b YU would be the Gernaro Guildford. I

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think you're here talking about a former byu quarnerback a

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guy who loves the university. Remember, Gernaro is a guy

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who uh he didn't grow up a member of the

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l S Church. He he he still he hasn't converted

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to the church's Juice Christ of letterte fame, so he's

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still a non member of the church. But he also

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loves b YU. Him and his wife are raising a

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family in Utah County. They really love, uh kind of

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the area and the watch front and and and the school.

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This is a guy who he he was kicked out

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at b YU during his playing days and rather than

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leave and go elsewhere it finished his career in another

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part of the country. He actually came back and then

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came back again during his coaching career on Klanie Sadaki's staff.

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So I think a guy like Genero Guildford absolutely deserves

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a chance to be a defensive coordinator. He's in Jay

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hills right hand man for the past three years. He's

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been passing game coordinator for the past two years under Satake,

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And I think if you want some form of continuity

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amid a coordinator change, I think that's probably the looks

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there are also a couple of other internal candidates that

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may get a look. Gary Anderson comes to mind. He's

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a defensive guy, and remember it was Gary the klanis

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followed from Utah to Oregon State as a defensive coordinator

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for a year before he got the BYU jobs, so

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the two of them are really close. Questions remain about

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whether or not Gary would want that position. He seems

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pretty content kind of doing what he's doing. Is sort

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of an assistant defensive line coach, defensive specialist. It's a analyst,

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and and he likes having a little bit of extra

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time to spend with his kids and his grandkids and

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and that sort of thing. So there are plenty of

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questions on both sides around him. But I could see

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other internal candidates as well, maybe getting a look or

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a snatch. Justin Ena or Fion Pool. I think Uh

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definitely stand a chance externally. There are two guys that

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I probably keep a really legitimate eye on. The First

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one is Sean Nuall. He's former BYU defensive stand out

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currently the linebackers coach at USC. I think he probably

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deserves at least a call the c if he's interested

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in coming home, and maybe running his own defense and

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working with Kilane. I think Seandaula would be great, and

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the other one I mentioned. It would be maybe a

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little bit of a step down for him in terms

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of title, but you could probably give him a step

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up and pay and prestige and everything else. That would

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be Utah Tech head coach Lance Anderson Lanz. Anderson developed

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just an incredible reputation as one of the best recruiters

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on the West Coast when he was at Stanford, spent

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a decade with the Cardinal, eventually rose to become the

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defensive coordinator under David Shaw there. So he knows how

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to run a Power Conference defense. He knows how to

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do more with less. Sometimes because of Stanford they're academic restrictions.

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He's currently the head coach in Utah, tex So he's

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just right down the road right now. He's only been there.

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He's just barely wrapped up his second is his second season.

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I think the Trailblayers just went two in ten, so

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he's still building there. But that may be worth a

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phone call as well at somebody who knows how to recruit,

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who knows how to run a good defense, and is

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certainly used to Power Conference life on the West Coast.

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That could maybe be another kind of shoulder for Clonie

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Satake to Leon in the coordinator room.

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Speaker 1: So I think things did interesting with the guy you

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brought up first, with Jennaro Guildford, because if he does

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get a call, if Jay decides to go and BYU says, hey,

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how you feel about DC?

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Speaker 6: What if Jay Hill calls and says, hey.

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Speaker 1: You want to come with me to Michigan, and then

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Gennaro's in this weird position where he's either taking the

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title of defensive coordinator at BYU, which is an incredible job,

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incredibly or you go with the prestige, the big ten,

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the aura that comes with coaching the defense at Michigan

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and knowing that the head coach at Michigan is only

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going to be there for so much longer. Maybe j

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Hill sides into that spot and then maybe Gennaro becomes

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the defensive coordinator in Michigan. I think if Gennaro gets

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both of those phone calls, he's in a really tough position.

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Speaker 4: Sean Yeah said, and then don't doubt the aura of Michigan.

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I mean, this is one of the top five jobs

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in college football nationally. It's not only a power to

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conference member, but it is among the best of the

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best in terms of branding, in terms of winning capabilities,

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I believe it's it's the winningest or second winningest program

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in football subdivision history. They've got seven or eight national

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champion in ships, some of them disputed, but we don't

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need to go into all that with the history of

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college football. So but but the brand, the Michigan brand,

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is extremely real. There is a reason why Kyle Whittingham

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essentially came out of retirement to take that job right

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within days of stepping down at Utah. Uh u In

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contacted him and he even told us on Sunday. He

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told reporters that that was probably one of four or

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five jobs that he would have considered after stepping down

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at Utah. He didn't want to just go anywhere uh

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coach just to coach, if you will. He wanted to

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be very picky. He wanted to be very choosy. Michigan

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was certainly on that list. It's on the short list.

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It's on a shortlist for a lot of jobs nationally,

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and I think there is real power in that brand.

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Uh that even a school like BYU and even for

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a a former player and now coach like Geronnaro Guildford,

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who loves BYU as much as he does, could struggle

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to say no to that kind of a job, to

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that kind of prestige, to that kind of a launching point,

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because it's not just you know, maybe putting himself in

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line to be a DC or even future head coach

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at Michigan. But once you're a position coach and maybe

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even he makes a move over with a little bit

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of extra pay and and the passing game defense, passing

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game coordinator title, that kind of thing. Once you're in

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that system, then all of a sudden you're being looked

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at for other big ten and SEC jobs when their

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openings down the line. For uh, say, I'll use one

481
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,799
of Ron Weaver's favorite teams. For the Illinois of the

482
00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:36,559
world or the Purdues of the world don't go to

483
00:24:36,599 --> 00:24:40,960
produce in general, but those times, yeah, yeah, you know, uh,

484
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,759
you know, the Iowas, the South Carolina is, the maybe

485
00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:47,799
even the Florida states of the world, like they're looking

486
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,000
at guys that are in that Michigan, that Ohio state,

487
00:24:52,319 --> 00:24:56,759
that Alabama type of system, just just because that's where

488
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,039
coaches kind of come up and they breed themselves and

489
00:24:59,319 --> 00:25:03,079
they're they're really proving if they can handle the highest

490
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,240
levels of college football. So I think moving to a

491
00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:10,000
school like Michigan is very good for one's career. And

492
00:25:10,039 --> 00:25:12,720
that's why, Yeah, I do agree with you Brett that

493
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,000
that I think all of these decisions are really really

494
00:25:16,039 --> 00:25:18,480
tough to make, and you can't fully say one way

495
00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:20,160
or the other until he is formally dry on the

496
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:20,720
press release.

497
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 2: You can't say anything.

498
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,799
Speaker 3: Look, I think the longer it, like you said, Sean,

499
00:25:25,839 --> 00:25:28,400
the next forty eight to seventy two hours, I mean,

500
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,200
that would put us at New Year's Day of the second.

501
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,920
But I mean, if we're talking about after the first

502
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,799
day of the portal January third, BAE Basketball's season opener

503
00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:39,440
against Kansas State, if nothing's finalized by the end of

504
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,359
that game in the day, I mean, look, this can

505
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,119
get done on any day of the week. You'd have

506
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,519
to think the longer this goes on, the more likely

507
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,519
it is that Jay Hill stays. Look, everybody's been been

508
00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:51,200
saying and trying to be funny about it, Shawn, you

509
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,279
and I have discussed it.

510
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:53,519
Speaker 2: I think we've heard about it.

511
00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 3: Fans want Jay Hill to tweet out that Leonardo DiCaprio

512
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,839
mean that he's a he's uh, he's not going somewhere

513
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,119
maybe whatever that is in LDS terms. I don't know

514
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,200
if that's a j Hill type of thing to do,

515
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,200
if that were to be him. Don't watch Look, you

516
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,000
can't swear and watch bad movies until you get back

517
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,319
from your mission, guys. I always say that's that's the rule.

518
00:26:13,319 --> 00:26:15,160
You have to serve the mission first. Deb able to

519
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,799
do that, do not watch that movie where that meme

520
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,279
is from. I watched it the other day because I

521
00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:21,680
had never seen it, and oh my goodness, but you

522
00:26:21,799 --> 00:26:24,039
have to have you know, you have to be balanced

523
00:26:24,079 --> 00:26:27,279
in all things. Anyway, The point is, the longer this

524
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,400
goes on, Sean, does that benefit be why you all

525
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:30,960
get you out of here?

526
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: On that?

527
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 4: Uh? I mean, I don't know if it benefits if

528
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,599
it really benefits b YU one way or the other. Like, yeah,

529
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,000
I think they'd probably prefer to have something like this

530
00:26:44,079 --> 00:26:47,079
wrapped up sooner rather than later, and again certainly before

531
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,400
that portal window opens. But I think b Yu's got options.

532
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,279
I think they've got guys. I think they've got places

533
00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:56,160
that they can turn to, even assuming that Jay Hill

534
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,640
moves on takes some Michigan job or or or even

535
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,880
somewhere else. I think Byu has options. I think Kilane's

536
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,799
built up a very strong network that he can kind

537
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:10,599
of tap into and still out his roster and remember

538
00:27:10,599 --> 00:27:12,680
of the defensive side, especially since we're talking about Jay

539
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:17,920
Hill in particular. Kilane's a defensive coach. Everything that has

540
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,359
happened at BYU defensively has been under his watch. He

541
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,240
takes pride. Yes, I know he's a form of LEU

542
00:27:24,279 --> 00:27:26,559
fall back, but he's been a defensive guy for pretty

543
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,359
much his whole coaching career. He's built systems that are

544
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,440
very successful at Utah, at Oregon State, now at BYU.

545
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,559
The reason why J Hill J Hill was a fantastic coach.

546
00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:40,279
I don't want this to sound like I'm denigrating his

547
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,599
role at all, because I think Jay was certainly kind

548
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:49,119
of the playmaker, the tactician, the mastermind, if you will,

549
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,039
behind the defense for the last three years. But he's

550
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:55,519
been doing it all within Kilanie's system. And that's why

551
00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:57,920
I think it was so important that Byu made sure

552
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,119
to hold on to Kilane's stocky about a month to

553
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,640
go for situations like this, so that they can still

554
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,920
have the basic framework in place, you know, so that

555
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,119
so that the house was still standing even if you

556
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,079
know the big chair was coming out of the living

557
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,759
room or the table was being replaced in the dining room, uh,

558
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,279
or you know they had to go and get a

559
00:28:17,319 --> 00:28:20,839
new TV. That house, that's still that basic framework of

560
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,759
the b YU football program is still there. And and

561
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,759
that framework right now is clinic Stocky.

562
00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 3: The framework is Kalona Chittaki. It's there, no doubt about it.

563
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,759
Shown before we let you go. Where can the listeners

564
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,200
find your work? Where can they follow you on xit

565
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,200
to get all of your content covering.

566
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 4: The coops uh, KSL dot com, ksel dot com, slash sports,

567
00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:44,599
if you want a direct link, you can head on

568
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,039
over there. Uh. We got Uh. It's more than just

569
00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:49,880
b YU two. We've got boots on the ground right

570
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,720
now down to the Las Vegas bull for Morgan Scalley's

571
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,000
opener as a head coach of the Utes. If anybody

572
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,240
wants to kind of get a peek in there as well.

573
00:28:57,279 --> 00:29:00,200
We're following the transfer portal like crazy. Actually just really

574
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,759
updated my portal tracker h right now with some of

575
00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:08,319
the latest names over there. But we've got, like I said,

576
00:29:08,319 --> 00:29:10,240
a whole bunch of everything, So go give us a follow.

577
00:29:10,279 --> 00:29:12,680
Checks out over at kasl dot com, check.

578
00:29:12,519 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: Them out at casser dot com. Follow him on x

579
00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:17,240
as well. Sewn was boots on ground at the Poptarch

580
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:20,559
Bowl and got a couple of nice UH stickers that

581
00:29:20,599 --> 00:29:22,839
he had pinned to maybe his laptop or to Hi.

582
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,279
Might be able to confirm that later on. Sources tell me, though, Shawn,

583
00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:27,200
thanks you Tom today.

584
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: Brother. We'll catch up with you soon. Travil safe.

585
00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:31,839
Speaker 4: I'm not cool enough to put them on my wallet though,

586
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:33,599
I'm just I'm not cool enough to put on my wallet.

587
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,440
Thanks God, I don't know what.

588
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:36,519
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's talking about. Sources do not

589
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:37,079
confirm it.

590
00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:40,319
Speaker 3: But anyway, Uh Sean, we will catch up with you soon, brother,

591
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,279
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645
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stopping by.

646
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 7: Always a pleasure to live doing in you guys, especially

647
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here in studio.

648
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: Great here, Happy New Year. Happy new to you too

649
00:32:03,079 --> 00:32:03,519
as well.

650
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: I'll wait for our producer to tell us that we

651
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,640
have our guest on the line as well, and I'll

652
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,319
welcome him in momentarily as well. But just tell me

653
00:32:10,359 --> 00:32:13,880
how was the Christmas with the family and everything. I

654
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,319
know this is the first one without your son. That's

655
00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:18,640
probably a little different. I remember my first time spending

656
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:20,720
Christmas away. It was a little bit weird when I

657
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,160
went on my.

658
00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:22,119
Speaker 2: Mission, I'll tell you.

659
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:24,279
Speaker 7: And I've gained some empathy from many of the families

660
00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:28,319
that send missionaries out. My oldest son, he just arrived in.

661
00:32:28,359 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: Cord Lit, Okay.

662
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,119
Speaker 7: We got a message from him. He made it to

663
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,559
Argentina and he left from the Mexico MTC. And it's

664
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,880
full of emotions. I missed my guy. He's our oldest

665
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:42,400
but I know he's in a good spot doing some

666
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,359
awesome work. And I'm excited for this in the next

667
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,440
chapter of his life.

668
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 3: A missions are a powerful, powerful thing. Powerful to be

669
00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:54,200
around family, family time, the people that you have. Speaking

670
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,640
of being around people as well, our guest is on

671
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,000
the line as well, also joining us today. We're very

672
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,920
grateful we have the starting center for by you missed basketball,

673
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,240
we got Capa Cato on the line as well. Kaba,

674
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,279
thanks for joining us today and happy belated Mary Christmas

675
00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:08,519
to you.

676
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,599
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you for having me.

677
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,839
Speaker 3: I need to ask you to I ask everybody, what's

678
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,440
the thing you like most about Christmas?

679
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 5: Caba? Just the family time, you know, the quality of

680
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,920
time you get to stand with the family. You know,

681
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,960
I have my host family here, I get to spend

682
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,680
time with them, you know. Uh, just the joy that

683
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:39,039
come with it, like you know, the games that you played,

684
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:40,640
the food, everything about it.

685
00:33:41,079 --> 00:33:45,359
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, Kevin, do you do you have any fun

686
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:48,359
or weird or new traditions that you've gotten to see

687
00:33:48,599 --> 00:33:51,160
from your host family, from your friends on the team,

688
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,759
and and and your time experiencing Christmas so far?

689
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 5: Uh? No, not really, Nah, I mean everything to me

690
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:04,480
bit normal. But yeah, no, I don't really noticed anything

691
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:08,559
that's I mean, I just know that you know, Christmas

692
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:12,679
what I'm from. You know, we don't really celebrate Christmas

693
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,599
like that. It's not it's not a big deal where

694
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:21,519
I'm from. So New Year's are big deal. It's like

695
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:25,400
Christmas back home. But that's the only thing I can say.

696
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,239
It's really the difference. But or everything's been normal.

697
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:34,639
Speaker 3: Remind us Kaba for the listeners that might not have

698
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,440
had opportunity. Where are you from and what do you

699
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,480
guys do over where you're from for New Year's Eve?

700
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 5: Uh? Yeah, I'm from Bamakomali that's in West Africa. And

701
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:55,480
so what we do in New Year's Eve, it's you know,

702
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,480
everybody gets ready. You know, you buy suit, I think,

703
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:03,880
go you buy some little kids. You're like, you know,

704
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:10,239
trying get money from your parents or family relative and

705
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,760
just you know, you have that friend group and everybody

706
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:20,880
put money together, organize this big party with chicken, and

707
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:28,079
you know, you know, have like drinks like soda and

708
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,199
you know the soda drinks. You know as a kid,

709
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:38,360
I did, I did do that until I was you know, sixteenth,

710
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:43,039
So that's what they do. And the grown ups just

711
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,920
you know, go to dinner, go to a nice dinner.

712
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,360
You have a wife, you take your wife out, and

713
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:54,000
you know, you go to dinner and you watch soire

714
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:59,639
works and yeah, so that's that's that's really what it is.

715
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,039
Speaker 2: That's a great celebration.

716
00:36:02,119 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 3: Honestly, I love time of family, like you said, but

717
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,320
you mentioned something powerful a few moments ago.

718
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 2: You said food. It sounds like cape Cato likes food.

719
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,760
What does Capakta like to eat?

720
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 5: Man? Yeah, I do, I do. I do like food. Yeah,

721
00:36:23,519 --> 00:36:28,239
so I mean back home, I have my favorite food.

722
00:36:29,079 --> 00:36:33,559
It's called the penn and butter sauce. My hair. I

723
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,880
eat pretty much, you know, everything except I can't really

724
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,880
eat pork. But other than that, I eat pretty much everything.

725
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,960
But I like steak, you know, I like chicken. You know,

726
00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:53,199
I like burgers times times, you know, the Jesse w

727
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:58,079
Actually it's one of my favorite. And you know Rent trios,

728
00:36:58,119 --> 00:37:00,800
I like all the stuff. So yeah, I eat a

729
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,320
lot of food and then different type food. So yeah,

730
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,199
but my favorite food really it's you know, nothing will

731
00:37:10,199 --> 00:37:16,000
come closer. It is the peanut butter sauce from back home. Yeah,

732
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:18,800
peanut butter sauce.

733
00:37:18,559 --> 00:37:19,079
Speaker 2: Is so good.

734
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 6: I haven't had it.

735
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:21,599
Speaker 2: Cam.

736
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 6: Can you describe to me what peanut butter sauce is.

737
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's it's really it's it's really peanut butter,

738
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,239
but like you put a I can't really tell you

739
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,119
how you make it exactly because I don't really my

740
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:43,800
mom do all that stuff, but I know you just

741
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,960
it's really peanut butter. You just like I think you put.

742
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,400
You cook it with water and oil and you put

743
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,880
like you're gonna put fish in there. You're gonna put

744
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:58,159
chicken in there or you know, if you have to me,

745
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,880
you can put that in there as well, with some veggies,

746
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,000
you know, and you put it when it come when

747
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,760
it's red, it's like really like a like a sauce

748
00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:15,360
and you put on top of rice, you know, and

749
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,760
you just eat it and it's it's my favorite.

750
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: It's so good.

751
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 3: I've been able to try it because obviously my sister

752
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,079
as well, two of them all I have married, you know,

753
00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:30,199
people from Africa, so I've been able to try uh

754
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,800
this and man it HAMI had me sweating. It had

755
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,960
really had me sweat and mayes and it's good. And

756
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,679
I love the rice. I like the spicy food, but

757
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,239
it's so good the chicken everything. So I've been fortunate

758
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,039
to try it, so I I do love the food

759
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:45,679
as well. I'm a big food guy like Kiba. But Kay,

760
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,559
but you also eat on the basketball court. You just

761
00:38:48,559 --> 00:38:50,920
don't eat off the court. You eat on the court

762
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,159
as well. Can you talk about your off season with

763
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,559
Chris Burgess. You had a career high in blocks against Miami,

764
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:01,719
like and it's funny that you did it down in

765
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,239
Orlando and Kessumie because there's another Orlando Magic player that

766
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,719
played in the NBA who was also very good at

767
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,199
blocking shots and Dwight Howard.

768
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:18,119
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean the off season was it was good,

769
00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:22,639
you know, kind of work with coach Burgess and you know,

770
00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:28,119
it's been it's been good. Uh, work on my you know,

771
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,920
my free throws, my ball handling, my postop moves and

772
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,440
you know all that stuff, and you know, my just

773
00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:43,559
my decision making, just all that stuff. It's been fun.

774
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,880
You know, those are some eras that I need to

775
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:50,239
un improvement and you know, I'm still working on it

776
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,079
and that's really being the focus. The real focus was

777
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,960
really my free throws this off season and that's really

778
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,920
what I've really been work on. But overall it's been

779
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,000
pretty good. Kay.

780
00:40:05,079 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: But I remember listening to an interview with Aj Debontsa

781
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,719
and he was talking about a conversation you guys had

782
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,840
about throwing lobs and about how you were kind of saying, hey,

783
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,320
you you can put it up higher, and AG is like,

784
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,039
I just want to get it in the right spot

785
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:20,639
for you, and You're like, hey, no, we can get

786
00:40:20,679 --> 00:40:21,199
it higher.

787
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 6: What's it like playing with the guy, like AJ debotsa.

788
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, Ag is just you know, one of one

789
00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:38,159
of those guys. Man's fun play guy. Guy is super smart.

790
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: You know.

791
00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, we we did talk about that, and you know,

792
00:40:43,079 --> 00:40:47,960
I just it was really coach young, yeah, telling telling

793
00:40:48,199 --> 00:40:51,840
him to just throw it up, you know, because I

794
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,000
kind of I kind of tell him, but like you know,

795
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:57,679
he was kind of like, you know, not really sure how.

796
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,679
He just I just want to, you know, a good pass,

797
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,519
just just throw it up. And I just threw it up,

798
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:06,639
and you know, I just I'll do my job. You

799
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,800
just gotta throw it up. So that's really uh, that's

800
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,079
really well what we talked about. I just throw it

801
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:15,159
up and yeah, I'll go get it.

802
00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 2: You mentioned throw it up.

803
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 3: AJ said that you had the highest vertical on the team,

804
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,159
so you get up how high is your vertical? Came,

805
00:41:24,199 --> 00:41:26,960
I have to ask if if you're allowed allowed to say,

806
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,360
I don't want to get you in trouble. If you

807
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,559
have to keep that a secret for the opposition, you

808
00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:32,480
might want to you might need to maybe keep that.

809
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:33,079
Speaker 2: And tucked away.

810
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 5: I don't know, actually I don't know how to measure

811
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,039
the vertico and stuff. But yeah, that told me I

812
00:41:42,119 --> 00:41:45,360
did it because we were doing last year. I didn't

813
00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:48,199
I couldn't do it this year because you know, obviously

814
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,920
I was kind of injury at some point. But I

815
00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:55,440
didn't really do it this year. But last year, the

816
00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:58,159
stuff that we were doing, I think I cleared the

817
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,880
whole thing and thinks it was like forty something, and

818
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,960
then I think they just decided to give him forty one.

819
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:09,239
But they share I wish that, you know, do it

820
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,960
did it again because I really wanted to see how

821
00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:16,920
I jump. But yeah, that's say it was forty one.

822
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,360
But I mean that feel like I can maybe a

823
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,760
little higher this year. I feels a little a little

824
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,440
good this year than you know, a year ago. For sure.

825
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 3: Well, you definitely you feel good on the basketball court.

826
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:35,840
I watched you in the Clemson game, and look, it's

827
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,639
our job as media to hype you guys up. You

828
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,400
caught a couple of bodies in that game, Carson Welling,

829
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:45,880
you know who else. Utah ties feel bad for him.

830
00:42:46,119 --> 00:42:48,880
He madeor highlight tape as well as the backboard in

831
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,880
Madison Square Garden as well the rim Man. I think

832
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,800
you Ben and I have said that you are probably

833
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,840
the best jumper in be what you basketball history and

834
00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,760
BYU athletic Q.

835
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 2: You're extremely athletic.

836
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 3: You're extremely talented on the court, and you've added so

837
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,440
much to this bou basketball team.

838
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,679
Speaker 2: It's great to watch you.

839
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,199
Speaker 3: Game in and game out, and I know Kevin Young

840
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,840
and the development staff has been a part of that.

841
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,320
But I want you to speak a little bit more

842
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,679
on Chris Burgess. What is your relationship like with Chris.

843
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:24,119
Obviously you're with them at Utah. He comes to b

844
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,239
y U and with him, I know you guys have

845
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,039
a special bond.

846
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, just just a great guy. You know, I

847
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,920
really love Chris Richards and are Utah. I mean, our

848
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:46,559
relationship is really you know, it's spressure on me. I'm

849
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:49,639
super grateful that I get to work with him. You know,

850
00:43:49,679 --> 00:43:53,280
I'm super grateful that he get to coach me. And

851
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,400
you know, I get to be a splayer. So that's

852
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:01,119
for sure. That's been a good you know, power of

853
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:06,800
my development. Even you know, Utah just been great working

854
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,559
with him because you know, there's he understand me in

855
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,079
ways that a lot of people always said doesn't really

856
00:44:14,159 --> 00:44:19,239
because you know, I just the way that I understand

857
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:25,639
me is what really, Uh, it's our relationship. You know,

858
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,639
it's just trying to make his job easy, trying to listen,

859
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,519
you know, because the things that he tells me and

860
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,480
you know, teach me, trying to tell me things, it

861
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,679
always work. And you know, I'm just I'm just grateful

862
00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:44,639
and he helped you see the game and you know

863
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,440
so many ways, like when I first started, when I

864
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:53,800
was at Utah, even my my freshman year was like

865
00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:57,639
everything was fast to me, like it was everything was fast,

866
00:44:57,679 --> 00:44:59,920
but you know, he helped me break the game down

867
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,400
and all that stuff, and you know, the game finally

868
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,719
slowed down. I'm able to understand certain things and I'm

869
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:14,119
able to make decisions. You know, just just being grateful.

870
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:17,440
You know, I'm just grateful that you know I had

871
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,960
to you know, he had to coach me. And yeah,

872
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,559
so yeah, just grateful honestly.

873
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,079
Speaker 2: Okay, but this is Blaine here.

874
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:31,199
Speaker 7: It's neat to hear you talk about your gratitude for BYU,

875
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,159
for Coach Burgess and coming down here. I remember my

876
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,519
first introduction, the first time seeing you play. I was

877
00:45:38,519 --> 00:45:41,199
with my son and some friends. We came to see

878
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,880
BYU play at Utah and there was a time there

879
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,840
there were a couple of big centers, I think a

880
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,679
couple seven footers that were getting some attention. But watching

881
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,480
you play against US, I remember thinking, gosh, that guy

882
00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:57,679
is a beast, and then hearing about you coming down

883
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,400
to b YU was sure something to celebrate for us

884
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:02,360
b YU fans.

885
00:46:02,519 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 5: What has that been like for.

886
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:07,559
Speaker 7: You coming down and coming to Provo and having played

887
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:10,760
at both schools here in Utah? What's it been like

888
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:11,960
playing at BYU for you?

889
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 5: It's been amazing, you know so much, you know good,

890
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,440
I mean ever since I can't I mean, I mean

891
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,400
I have whole family here like an orum, and you know,

892
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,000
I've been to you know, obviously a couple of BOU

893
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:35,400
game when I was at high school and stuff, you know,

894
00:46:35,639 --> 00:46:39,400
come down. You know, I watched a couple of BO

895
00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:42,920
game and I think my first when I first got

896
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:48,920
to Utah, I think I've watched b y U and

897
00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:53,519
Utah State play in the Delta Center. I don't remember

898
00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:56,639
who won, but that was my first college game and

899
00:46:56,679 --> 00:46:59,920
it was it was a cool experience. But playing coming

900
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:05,559
down by us been really great. You know, family with

901
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:11,920
being part of that decision obviously Coach Burgess. You know,

902
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,559
I just want to be close to my family. And

903
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:22,079
you know, obviously I knew Ritchie and who's who's actually man,

904
00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:26,639
who's a great guy? Man? That guy's That guy's a

905
00:47:26,639 --> 00:47:30,119
great guy. I mean, I remember I jumped in the

906
00:47:30,159 --> 00:47:33,440
porto and then you know, he he was like, you know,

907
00:47:33,519 --> 00:47:36,159
you're gonna come play with me, man, you know, And

908
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,840
I was like, man, but I'm trying to play. I'm

909
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,960
trying to play more minute. You know, I don't know

910
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,719
how that's gonna go for you there, you know. And

911
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,440
I was like, nah, I don't really care. I just

912
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,800
want to play with you. I don't care if you start,

913
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:53,079
and you know, I just want to I just want

914
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:56,119
to play with you, man. So that that really meant

915
00:47:56,159 --> 00:47:58,840
a lot to me, and that that's that says a

916
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,280
lot about him. But and and just people a b

917
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:07,280
YU you know, not just for us. Everybody just it's

918
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:13,960
been amazing, honestly, I mean similar to Utah also, I

919
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,760
mean I had a good time there, just think things

920
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,320
just didn't go the way I wanted to. So I mean,

921
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,480
I'm not gonna take anyway from that. And that's I'm

922
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:28,079
also grateful because you know that that's the path that

923
00:48:28,519 --> 00:48:31,239
guide me to be you. And you know, I'm always

924
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,440
I'm always gonna be grateful for that. But it's been amazing,

925
00:48:35,199 --> 00:48:38,119
you know, especially you know, family get to come to

926
00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:42,639
the games and you know, playing with my friends. You know,

927
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,280
it's it's been awesome.

928
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 2: That's so powerful to hear.

929
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,039
Speaker 3: Okay, but thank you for giving us that inside of

930
00:48:49,519 --> 00:48:53,119
your relationship number one with Coach Burgess and why you

931
00:48:53,159 --> 00:48:55,440
came to b Yu and how special it's meant to you,

932
00:48:55,480 --> 00:49:00,480
and your relationship with Foos, I love that bigger than basketball. Hey,

933
00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:02,239
I don't care if you players start. I just want

934
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,920
to be around you. I just want to, you know,

935
00:49:04,039 --> 00:49:07,840
play with you. I think that's powerful. That's amazing, especially

936
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,840
because uh Fuis has made a big decision for himself,

937
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,800
right Fu's just you got baptized, so Fus has been

938
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:14,480
trending a lot.

939
00:49:14,639 --> 00:49:17,079
Speaker 2: So it's a powerful relationship. That you share with.

940
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 3: Fus and your teammate and and thank you for being

941
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,719
open and vulnerable about that. I really do appreciate it.

942
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,599
I know your time is valuable, so we got to

943
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:25,440
let you go. So it's the last thing I'll ask

944
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,440
you and get you out of here on this What

945
00:49:27,559 --> 00:49:29,559
has it been like to to me Blaine though? And

946
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,599
getting contact In the day of college sports, there's a

947
00:49:32,639 --> 00:49:35,280
lot of important decisions you guys get to make now

948
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,079
with setting up your future. What has it been like

949
00:49:38,159 --> 00:49:41,360
to to meet Blaine and all the finances that come.

950
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: With the with the job as well.

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Speaker 5: Now, honestly, I mean it's it's been good man, It's

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it's been good. Uh that's something that I mean, I

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don't really I want to talk a lot. I don't

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want to talk a lot about that. But yeah, it's

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it's been good for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely a It's definitely always important to you

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know know what direction that you're you're headed so well, key,

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but thanks for your time today. We don't want to

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take any more of it. Happy New Year to you

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first and foremost, and safe travels. As you guys stinked

961
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on Kansas State on Saturday, you guys, open up conference play.

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Speaker 2: Good luck to you guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, thank you for sure, of.

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Speaker 2: Course we'll let Cava Kaya go Blaine. It's the end

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of the year.

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Speaker 3: One of the questions people have right about now round

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as as tax seasons coming.

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Speaker 2: Up as a couple of weeks and you get really

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a week away you could begin filing.

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Speaker 7: That's right, that's right, it's not far off. And the

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key is just bringing those things together. Tax and investment planning. Uh,

972
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that's those are the core pillars when it comes to

973
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a certified financial plan is bringing together or estate planning,

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tax planning, insurance planning, income planning, and then of course

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investment planning. So that's what we do as certified financial

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planners is put together a plan, coordinate those different pillars.

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And of course there's a deadline that comes up here

978
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tomorrow with the last day of the year. It's been

979
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a hustle as we wind things down, but we're excited

980
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for the new year. There's still things that people will

981
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be able to do retroactively that count for twenty twenty five.

982
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And so you're right though, tax filing season is right

983
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around the corner. February March is when a lot of

984
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people really do that. But it's been a great year.

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We've appreciated getting to talk to and visit with many

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of the ESPN the fan listeners, and it's just fun

987
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being a part of the community and wishing everybody a

988
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happy new year.

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Speaker 2: Wishing everybody a happy new year.

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Speaker 3: Guys again, free Q and a complent if you qunad

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bandawell bandawolf dot com. You know, still one day left,

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but look, don't wait an opportunity to be able to to,

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you know, save money, get more. It's about what you keep,

994
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not about what you make. I think sometimes that's something

995
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I've learned now in this process too, is there's a

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lot more that you're able to keep you know, that

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you make. That's for sure blame. How can people get

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a hold of you guys going into next year.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, visit our website bandorwealth dot com. You can request

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a copy of our band or Wealth tax Smart Playbook.

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We've got additions for business owners, for real estate professionals,

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for high income earners, and then just a core playbook.

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And the idea is to give some ideas to see

1004
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a little bit under the hood some of the things

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that we do as a wealth management firm, So visit

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our website bndorwealth dot com and we'd love to share

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with you some ideas, some options, some strategies you're not

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currently aware of.

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Speaker 3: You can get those options go to Bandwealth Bandorwealth dot com.

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Guys rely from our Bandwealth Studios. We need to go

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to break. I am over on time.

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Speaker 2: That is my fault.

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Speaker 3: We got Jonathan Tavnari coming up next.

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Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Still a lot more to get your little college basketball

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talk on the flip. You're listening to Cougar Sports right

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here on one O three nine. In ninety eight, three

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