WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:09.000 Monster House Presents. 2 00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:16.480 It's actually quite unlike anything we've ever seen before. 3 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:22.399 A giant, very creature party part. 4 00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:26.280 In Luckness, a twenty four a mile long bottomless lake 5 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:27.480 in the Highlands of Scotland. 6 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:29.960 It's a creature known as the Luckness Monster. 7 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:53.280 Monster Talk. 8 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:58.880 Welcome to Monster Talk, the science show about monsters. I'm 9 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:01.200 Blake Smith and I'm Karen Stolsner. 10 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:03.600 Karen and Matt took a break from all the madness 11 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:05.519 of twenty twenty five and went to the little town 12 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:10.280 of Victor, Colorado to relax, unwind, and investigate the alleged 13 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:13.760 haunting of the town's Venerable Hotel, where joined today by 14 00:01:13.760 --> 00:01:15.439 Matt Baxter to talk about. 15 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:17.719 What they found and content. Warning. 16 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:22.239 It apparently includes delicious cafe snacks. Now that's probably not 17 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:23.760 a thing most of you need to be worried about. 18 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:25.640 But I'm trying to lose some weight and just looking 19 00:01:25.640 --> 00:01:28.359 at the photo Matt provided, maybe gain five pounds. So 20 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:35.280 you've been warned more Instantal, Okay, wow, twenty five it's 21 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:36.959 been kind of a rough year, but I'm excited to 22 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:39.120 get together one more time. 23 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:43.239 I mean it is every week, right, but I mean. 24 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:46.840 It's like it's a good part of the week, you know, 25 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:49.159 And it's always good to get together with friends and 26 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:51.359 talk about ghosts exactly. 27 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:54.239 And I'm excited that Matthew's got another case to talk 28 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:55.000 to us about today. 29 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:56.799 You guys worked on this one together. It looks like 30 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:00.640 and I am very very learned about this. 31 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:04.040 I love haunted hotels, and this looks like another one, 32 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:12.400 and so well, maybe not long I thought, wait, are 33 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:13.840 you suggest what? 34 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:14.639 Okay? 35 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:16.800 Why did you just have to hear more surprise? 36 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:21.479 Welcome back Matt and Karen, Thank. 37 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:24.319 You, thank you, thank you. And I was ignorant of 38 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:29.360 this place too until Matt illuminated me about this place. 39 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:33.080 And so we wanted to just get away, get out 40 00:02:33.080 --> 00:02:36.639 of Dodge for a day or two, and so Matt 41 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:40.520 suggested Victor, Colorado, and I'm like, where the hell is that. 42 00:02:41.319 --> 00:02:43.560 I hadn't heard of it. There's a little town that's 43 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:48.080 nearby that is larger and known for its casinos called. 44 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:50.639 Cripple Creek, and so I'd. 45 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:52.520 Heard of that, but I hadn't heard of a Victor. 46 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:56.879 It's just this little rural town about two hours south 47 00:02:56.919 --> 00:03:00.479 of Denver, and it's a How did you find out 48 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:01.080 about it? Matt? 49 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:06.360 Well, I had had, you know, family that had gone 50 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:09.719 to Cripple Creek and Victor to you know, go gambling 51 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:15.439 and seeing things like that. And I had heard about 52 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:20.560 the legends of Victor and Cripple Creek. But the cool 53 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:23.599 thing about Victor to me is that it is just 54 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:29.639 a living ghost town. It is. It is remarkable at 55 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:32.800 the size of it and everything. And then you know, 56 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:35.159 I was able, you know, there's people there, but I 57 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:36.879 was able to walk out in the middle of the 58 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:40.560 street and take pictures for it as long as I wanted, 59 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:42.639 and I did not get run died over. 60 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:48.719 So it's this little old mining town, right, and so 61 00:03:48.759 --> 00:03:51.960 it was known as the city of Gold Mines, and 62 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:55.719 it was the site of the eighteen nineties gold rush 63 00:03:55.800 --> 00:03:59.240 in Colorado. And so one of the reasons we went 64 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:01.680 there is that the whole town of Victor is said 65 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:05.680 to be haunted, but especially a particular building there called 66 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:11.039 the Victor Hotel. So we decided to check it out. 67 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:15.919 And this little hotel was built in eighteen eighty four 68 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:19.519 by founders of the city, the Woods Brothers, the three 69 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:23.240 Woods brothers, but the place actually burnt down in a 70 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:26.600 massive fire that just took out the whole town in 71 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:30.759 August eighteen ninety nine, but they started to rebuild a 72 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:35.040 hotel that year, finished in nineteen hundred, and the new 73 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:36.800 hotel stands opposite the site. 74 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:37.560 Of the predecessors. 75 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:42.000 So all the original houses were built from wood, and 76 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:45.519 so they instead started to build places with brick or 77 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:48.680 metal as well, and. 78 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:53.879 That town ordinance that they had to they could no 79 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:57.639 longer build with wood. And because the pine just went up, 80 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:03.639 the entire town just was decimated in just a few hours, 81 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:04.759 the entire count. 82 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:09.040 The three mayors, the little pig mayors. 83 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:12.319 Huffed and they puffed. 84 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:17.120 But yeah, I mean, there is just so much history 85 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:20.319 surrounding this place. The hotel is listed on the National. 86 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:21.600 Register of Historic Places. 87 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:25.680 There is an elevator in this building, which really comes 88 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:28.160 into a lot of the folklore and the history. It's 89 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:31.879 said to be the oldest operating one in Colorado, and 90 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:36.040 it appears as it was built around nineteen hundred and 91 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:38.439 Matt came across a bunch of articles about this in 92 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:41.160 the local newspaper, and we'll get into that a bit 93 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:43.879 more soon. It seems like it may not be the 94 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:49.600 oldest operating anymore, but we'll get into that. But suffice 95 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:51.800 to say, the Victor Hotel is just said to be 96 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:55.360 affected by or afflicted by the usual haunted phenomena. Their 97 00:05:55.879 --> 00:06:01.000 stories of ghostly footsteps and ghostly smells, people smelling perfume 98 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:04.120 and cigarette smoke, lots of cold spots in there, and 99 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:06.279 flickering lights, and even. 100 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:08.879 Apparitions sounds like Vegas. 101 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:15.240 Or any city I guess in America or around the world. 102 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:18.759 But we thought there's no point in really tackling all 103 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:21.439 of these stories. I mean, how can you really dispute 104 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:24.959 cold spots, how can you dispute stigar smoke and things 105 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:26.639 like that. So we thought, let's focus on some of 106 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:30.079 the specific claims that we can actually investigate. So we 107 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:32.360 thought Matt could go into a bit of some of 108 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:35.560 the legends and then I'll tell a specific story that's 109 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:38.040 assigned or aligned to the place. 110 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:39.000 Neat. 111 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:44.000 Yeah, So now what is now known as the Victor 112 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:48.240 Hotel across the street is where the original Victor Hotel 113 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:52.279 was before it burned down. When they built this building, 114 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:56.040 just within the matter of a matter of weeks, this 115 00:06:56.519 --> 00:06:59.959 building started getting built and it was not the Victor Hotel. 116 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:05.439 This was the Victor Bank Block, and the first floor 117 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:11.920 was a bank and then there were some you know, accommodations, 118 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:14.120 you know, a little bit further above that, but it 119 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:17.879 was not known as the Victor Hotel at this time. Now, 120 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:21.439 the interesting thing about it is there was a hospital 121 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:27.160 that had opened on the top floor and during really 122 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:32.319 really cold winters, when the ground because it is the 123 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:35.639 the cemetery, there is the highest elevation cemetery in the 124 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:40.120 country from what we understand, and in the winter times 125 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:42.920 the ground would get so hard they couldn't dig graves. 126 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:48.319 So that fourth floor became a makeshift morgue and the 127 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:52.160 bodies that went up and down in that elevator continue 128 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:58.399 to haunt the hotel to this day. And so I 129 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:05.319 don't know what sounds we'd go along with a dead body. 130 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:05.560 But. 131 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:08.959 That's that's you know, there's a lot of e vps 132 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:11.839 and everything, and they go along with that. So it's 133 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:17.639 absolutely terrifying when you think about that. But there's a 134 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:21.079 there was a bigger legend, the one that really intrigued Karen. 135 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:26.879 Well. 136 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:29.839 Yeah, if you look up the Victor Hotel anything to 137 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:32.720 do with the hauntings, you will come across the story 138 00:08:32.759 --> 00:08:35.720 of Eddie. And so the hotel is said to be 139 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:40.039 haunted by I think a young child and a number 140 00:08:40.039 --> 00:08:42.720 of other people, as Matters said, but specifically you'll hear 141 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:47.759 about Eddie. So as the story goes, he was a miner, 142 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:50.960 because this is a gold mining town and Matt. 143 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:52.919 Always likes to joke about that. Not underage, he was 144 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:54.240 a gold miner. 145 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:56.480 And he was over twenty one. 146 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:02.559 Yeah, and so he lived in the hotel. So when 147 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:05.440 it was a boarding house, he lived in room three 148 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:08.960 hundred and one on the third floor. Now the hotel 149 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:13.000 website itself tells us this, so he's a quote from 150 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:15.759 the site. The most prevalent ghost is that of a 151 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:19.480 man named Eddie, who allegedly fell down the elevator shaft 152 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:22.799 years ago, staying in room three hundred and one at 153 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:25.240 the time of his death. Eddie has often. 154 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:26.799 Been seen in the room, in the. 155 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:30.919 Hallways, and in the elevator. Guests who stay in Room 156 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:34.000 three hundred and one also report hearing footsteps and other 157 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:38.559 strange sounds that cannot be explained though the elevator. 158 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:43.679 Yeh, yeah, yeah, always so. 159 00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:48.519 Though the elevator is regularly inspected and maintained, it often 160 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:52.200 tends to activate itself going up and down the shaft 161 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:56.279 when no one is near, always stopping on the third floor. 162 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:02.639 The elevator's ghostly activity usually occurs around three So yeah, 163 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:04.639 we've encountered a lot of that of the years, haven't we. 164 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:07.960 The stories of go to the activity at three am 165 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:12.840 or somehow involving the number three, the whole trinity association. 166 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:15.720 So we're seeing that at play here again. 167 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:19.840 So how did Eddie die? 168 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:23.600 What happened here? Why is he haunting this building? So again, 169 00:10:23.639 --> 00:10:27.039 as the story goes, one morning he rose for work 170 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:29.960 and he went to the elevator. He pushed the button, 171 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:32.799 waiting for the elevator, and then when the iron gates 172 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:37.320 opened up, he stepped inside. But the elevator wasn't there. 173 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:42.600 Doctor Remorey record to first floor emergency stat Yes. 174 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:45.240 That's me. Anyone else need to go on the elevator? 175 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:57.320 He only said you, Oh okay, Ray, did they just 176 00:10:57.399 --> 00:10:58.480 come off doing. 177 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:02.039 Now? 178 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:02.759 Maybe? 179 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:07.559 So Eddie steps inside and he falls to his death 180 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:10.639 in the shaft. So he's a victim of the elevator's malfunction. 181 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:15.480 And so you hear all the same stories about Eddie 182 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:18.960 being seen in his room, in the hallways, in the elevator, 183 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:22.360 the stories of the elevator activating itself even when no 184 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:28.159 one is nearby. AH, and people hearing disembodied voices and knockings, 185 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:32.679 strange sounds, particularly in Eddie's room, ghostly footsteps. 186 00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:33.360 The whole shebang. 187 00:11:34.039 --> 00:11:38.919 So what intrigued me was that I kept reading this 188 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:43.320 story retold the same way again and again. But then 189 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:45.240 I came across another version of. 190 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:47.039 The story, so just slightly different. 191 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:51.559 This version says that Eddie was a drunkard and late 192 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:55.480 one night he was heavily intoxicated, and he went out 193 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:58.600 to the elevator, pressed the button, the cage opened. He 194 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.919 stepped out before the elevator had arrived and fell. 195 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:02.320 To his death. 196 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:05.919 So it was like, hm, you know, when we hear 197 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:11.240 these light differences in stories are usually indicative of urban legends. 198 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:15.240 So I thought, Okay, my curiosity here is peaud. I 199 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:20.960 think that there's something else going on. So we looked 200 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:23.919 into this and then we did our trip. But I 201 00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:26.159 guess we'll talk a little bit about our trip to 202 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:30.600 Victor and what we found, and then I guess the 203 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:32.759 truth behind all of the folklore. 204 00:12:34.759 --> 00:12:37.480 And you're saying that the town basically burn to the ground, 205 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:42.440 but they rebuilt it slowly, and so everything there is 206 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:46.519 roughly dating from nineteen hundred at this point exactly. 207 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:49.559 Yeah, okay, yes, and actually they built it really quickly. 208 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:54.279 It was i mean the amount of money, yeah, the 209 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:59.399 amount of money in this town was ridiculous. Yeah, both 210 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:05.720 Victor and Cripple Creek, uh basically bailed America out of 211 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:11.320 the eighteen nineties depression. It was just remarkable the amount 212 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:15.320 of money and the gold now mine right in between. 213 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:15.919 Yeah. 214 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:18.879 Yeah, but there's a gold mine right in between the 215 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:21.879 two towns that is still operating today and it is 216 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:26.759 a huge operation. So it's I'm sure there's still quite 217 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:29.039 a bit of gold there, but just the millions upon 218 00:13:29.159 --> 00:13:33.039 millions of dollars and we're talking nineteen hundred dollars. 219 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:42.759 Oh yeah, there was several millionaires blind mind bobblink. But 220 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:46.200 so the town was this bustling puns. 221 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:48.360 When there aren't they aren't even there, I know exactly. 222 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:53.240 But so the town once had a population of about 223 00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:58.399 eight thousand people whoa now has it about four hundreds. So, 224 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:01.639 as Matt said, it's really true a ghost town. And 225 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:04.600 we turned up. It was basly cold at that time 226 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:08.120 of year, so it was early March, and the hotel 227 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:13.480 it was very interesting it's modernized now. They've got state 228 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:19.159 of the art locks on the place and everything's electronic nowadays, pass. 229 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:20.960 Keys and all that kind of stuff. Gotcha, gotcha? 230 00:14:21.320 --> 00:14:22.440 Yeah, it's really cool. 231 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:24.960 Well, no, it's it's you. You get you get a 232 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:29.879 code and you kind of tap on the door and 233 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:33.279 the screen kind of pops up for you to type 234 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:34.000 in your code. 235 00:14:34.120 --> 00:14:36.360 Oh wow, yeah, it's it's very cool. 236 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:40.080 It's it's uh, but if you've been drinking, how do 237 00:14:40.159 --> 00:14:41.879 you get inside your room anyway? 238 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:43.879 Sorry, okay, don't take the elevator. 239 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:46.720 Well, you can go into any room. 240 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:49.600 And that was the strange thing we found that all 241 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:52.519 of the doors to all of the rooms outside of 242 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:56.240 those that had already been were already occupied, were open, 243 00:14:56.440 --> 00:14:57.039 wide open. 244 00:14:57.840 --> 00:15:01.799 Wow, that's peculiar, it was it. 245 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:05.759 It comes in handy shortly. Oh I bet yeah, because yeah, 246 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:08.879 there's more to the story now. It was really cool 247 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:13.559 driving into Victor and getting to see this, you know, 248 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:18.279 this such a historical town, and then getting into this 249 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:23.039 building that much of it is very historical. Now. Unfortunately, 250 00:15:23.159 --> 00:15:26.360 the elevator was out of service when we were there, 251 00:15:27.039 --> 00:15:32.200 so the only floors that you could stay and were 252 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:36.480 basically the second and third floor. So we opted, you know, 253 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:39.360 for the third floor because Eddie, you know, was in 254 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:42.080 room three oh one, and you need the exercise there 255 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:42.600 it is. 256 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:45.440 You know, yes, yeah, so you get to take the 257 00:15:45.480 --> 00:15:47.039 stairs every time you went up and down. 258 00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:50.240 So yep, ye wow, which was not not a big 259 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:53.279 deal because you know, it was fine. Yeah. Now it 260 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:56.120 was interesting because I went on a little bit of 261 00:15:56.159 --> 00:16:01.120 a looking around sort of the mission and everything, and 262 00:16:01.639 --> 00:16:04.759 I'm walking up the stairs and I'm all of a sudden, 263 00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:07.480 you know, it's like we're the only ones there. There's 264 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:11.799 just like nobody except well except for the ghost, but 265 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:14.440 I mean not there's no no staff or anything there 266 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:17.720 that the owners of the hotel, nothing, no one there 267 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:21.960 from no front desk, just they text you when it's 268 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:24.720 time for checking. They text you your code and that's it. 269 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:29.120 So you're on your own. So I'm looking around, you know, 270 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:31.399 I'm feeling very free about looking around because there's no 271 00:16:31.399 --> 00:16:34.799 one else there. And as I approached the fourth floor 272 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:39.120 where the morgue was, I hear these footsteps and I 273 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:43.120 hear this like breathing and everything. It's just very strange 274 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:45.399 noise and it's coming down the stairs and I'm thinking, 275 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:48.480 oh god, I'm having an experience. I'm having an experience, 276 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:54.320 and you know, two people around the corner and it's this, 277 00:16:54.320 --> 00:16:58.399 this woman and this guy, and they both are wearing 278 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:01.720 blankets around their should holders because it's. 279 00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:06.000 Cold, but seeing to be ghosts, yeah, or. 280 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:08.799 They were dressed as ghosts. It could go either way. 281 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:16.519 But they had em F detectors, and so I'm like, oh, yeah, 282 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:19.119 doing some ghost hunting, are we, you know? And the 283 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:26.039 woman looked really sheepish and she's like, it's my birthday. 284 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:29.960 It was a very interesting answer. So they came to 285 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:32.240 the Vicar Hotel on our birthday to hunt for ghosts, 286 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:35.920 and birds. 287 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:44.440 Would do that, not like us. Yeah. 288 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:48.480 Yeah, So we we stayed there that night and we 289 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:53.920 counted uh probably about five other people, uh so other 290 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:56.160 than ourselves who were there, and they all seemed to 291 00:17:56.200 --> 00:18:03.359 be ghost hunting. We could smell a lot of recreational marijuana. 292 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:07.079 Now, I mean from the birthday room. Yes, there was 293 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:11.839 some Colorado recreational marijuana going on. It's perfectly legal people, it's. 294 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:12.920 Funny Rocky Mount. 295 00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:15.000 Yes, yeah, indeed. 296 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:18.079 So we did experience some phenomena or what other people 297 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:22.359 would experience is phenomena. So things like cold spots, right, Matt. 298 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:27.200 Oh, huge, The cold spots were amazing. Victor is a 299 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:27.839 cold spot. 300 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:29.359 But the problem is. 301 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:34.240 They modernized the hotel, but they didn't modernize the hotel. 302 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:39.480 The windows have these gaps that where you can see 303 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:44.519 daylight on the edges of the windows and snow and 304 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:48.799 the wind blowing has this unearthly howl as it comes 305 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:51.559 through your window and freezes you. 306 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:52.920 Uh. 307 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:57.440 The only heat we had was this little electric like radiator. 308 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:03.160 It was cold, a little oil yeah, it was like 309 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:06.200 an oil heater. Yeah, And it was cool because that 310 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:09.240 was the only heat we had. And as the wind 311 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:16.720 was blowing in into our room. Now this part of 312 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:21.200 the story is, you know, I'm treading lightly. They didn't 313 00:19:21.240 --> 00:19:27.400 give us much in the way of bedding, so we 314 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:31.480 had like a sheet and we were, you know, worried 315 00:19:31.759 --> 00:19:33.279 about whether or not, you know, there were going to 316 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:35.920 be bed bugs or anything. We just didn't know, so 317 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:38.279 that we're going to sleep on top of the sheets 318 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:43.079 and instead of getting underneath them, it just didn't seem, 319 00:19:43.359 --> 00:19:46.119 you know, perfectly safe. So we slept on top of 320 00:19:46.119 --> 00:19:50.680 them and we had one really thin blanket and we're 321 00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:55.279 watching this kind of led thermostat on the wall, which 322 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:58.160 we had no control over, but it would tell us 323 00:19:58.200 --> 00:20:01.519 the temperature in our room. And we're watching it drop 324 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:06.480 and drop and drop, and you know it's approaching, you know, 325 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:11.799 the fifties, and it's continuing to drop, and it's like, okay, 326 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:19.240 that's it. I'm going to go find blankets. So dressed 327 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:25.960 as I wasn't, I got out of bed and started 328 00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:28.880 rating the other rooms, hoping it. 329 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:31.319 Was it was lightly clad, so please don't think he 330 00:20:31.440 --> 00:20:31.960 was naked. 331 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:37.000 I was not one hundred percent naked. I'll put it 332 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:41.720 that way. I was not presentable, I'll say that. But 333 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:46.880 so I'm going from room to room trying to steal 334 00:20:46.880 --> 00:20:49.559 blankets from the other rooms. 335 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:52.400 And old rooms open. 336 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:55.400 Yeah, they're all open and everything. So I'm going from 337 00:20:55.480 --> 00:20:57.680 room to room and I finally get to Eddie's room, 338 00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:03.400 room three oh one. Now Eddie's room was left in 339 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:06.519 the exact same condition as it was when he died. 340 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:08.200 Same TV channel. 341 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:13.599 Everything, same coffeemaker, right right, all of us the. 342 00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:15.200 Same, I assume. I assume. 343 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:18.039 Do we know roughly what year Eddie passed? 344 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:23.440 No, okay, just eighty died in the hotel. 345 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:27.160 He was a border That's all we know. At this point, guys. 346 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:30.559 Right now, Now it's it's often assumed that it's it's 347 00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:32.599 around nineteen hundred, but there's no hard evidence of when 348 00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:36.839 he died. So I go into his room and I 349 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:41.920 get a blanket. And as I'm standing there in his room, 350 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:46.079 I hear footsteps coming upstairs and he's right at the 351 00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:47.880 you know, his room's red the top of the stairs. 352 00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:51.839 And I'm standing there thinking, please don't come in here, 353 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:54.240 Please don't let three or one be your room. 354 00:21:54.279 --> 00:21:55.759 See that's nice of you to think that. I would 355 00:21:55.759 --> 00:21:58.039 have been thinking, quick, put this sheet over my head. 356 00:21:59.799 --> 00:22:02.920 Well, and I think it's a ghost. 357 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:06.839 It's Eddie, right, except for they were chatting with each 358 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:10.880 other and it was a couple, so I knew it 359 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:14.119 was it was people. And I'm just thinking, Okay, what 360 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:15.759 am I going to say if they come in this room? 361 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:17.440 What am I going to say? My first thought was. 362 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:21.839 Boo to come up with some blanket? 363 00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:27.599 Excuse well my my My next one was I got 364 00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:34.279 these blankets for you. 365 00:22:31.680 --> 00:22:36.079 So because pretended that you couldn't speak English, right, right. 366 00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:38.839 Just you know, as I'm standing there naked with a 367 00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:40.160 blanket in my hands. 368 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:40.240 So. 369 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:45.920 It's right, you're going to get a quote complex, right, 370 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:51.599 So yeah, that that was a very strange happening. 371 00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:54.880 But anyway, I made it back to the room. I 372 00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:57.920 got blankets for for for Blade and for for Karen 373 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:00.440 and I and and we made it through the rest 374 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:03.839 of the night, and that was that was wonderful. But 375 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:06.680 we decided that we were going to go and check 376 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:10.640 out the cemetery and and different things. We went off 377 00:23:10.680 --> 00:23:13.880 a cripple creek the day before and then check that out, 378 00:23:13.960 --> 00:23:18.359 and uh, they have a family dollar, so it's good. 379 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:19.880 It's fine. 380 00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:27.480 A liquor store with assive people who had stolen bottles. 381 00:23:29.160 --> 00:23:31.960 You mean they like they used to have like bounce. 382 00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:38.240 Shot. This person is a thief and ye it has 383 00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:41.680 is their picture there on the wall. So we decided 384 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:44.720 to put back the bottles we didn't pay for and 385 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:47.160 because we didn't want to be part of the wall 386 00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:47.519 of shame. 387 00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:51.839 Well, yeah, I think it was fun to explore up 388 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:54.920 the place and and clearly other people who were staying 389 00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:59.359 there were going ghost hunting, and uh, you know, we had. 390 00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:00.799 Some fun little experiences here. 391 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:04.480 And their blade came across thought he was hearing voices 392 00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:10.359 and disembodied voices and came across televisions being on in 393 00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:14.039 some of the rooms and the lights flickering and things 394 00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:17.279 like that. So we put it down to electricity issues 395 00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:20.279 or maybe the previous occupants that left the television on, 396 00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:23.279 and it was just debatable that they had many people 397 00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:25.759 coming through there really at all, even though though the 398 00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:27.839 place is well known and a lot of people go 399 00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:29.000 ghost hunting there. 400 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:32.279 I mean, if the whole population of the town is 401 00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:35.559