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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services insure

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<v Speaker 2>Good after doing everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball

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<v Speaker 2>here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back everybody, and with me today is a newcomer to

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<v Speaker 2>this office and my show, Blake Eager. Tell me what

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<v Speaker 2>your title is exactly, because I'll screw it up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thanks for having me. It's an executive director for

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<v Speaker 3>Southern Arizona Sports Tourism and Film Authority.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I would have screwed that up. Yeah, most people do.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have lost you. Southern Arizona. What Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's cool. You've been there for a while, almost two years.

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<v Speaker 2>Two years. You haven't been in existence for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>almost two years. That's my point. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know this until we were talking a lot

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<v Speaker 2>in the summer, you know, communicating at least by the

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<v Speaker 2>way we have our guy Juan here. I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>here without want of course, uh that you know. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Blake, how you doing any news for me?

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<v Speaker 2>It's covered any news for me, Blake let's covey. We

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<v Speaker 2>danced around this for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>We uh, first and foremost, I have to say thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for your patients, because I think.

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<v Speaker 2>About forty yeah, forty text. I said, no, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to give you a week, give me a week.

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<v Speaker 2>That week turned into about three months. But we finally

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<v Speaker 2>executed that contract and explain what we're talking about, because

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<v Speaker 2>it was at the time and still is at the

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<v Speaker 2>big At the time, it was big news because you

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<v Speaker 2>were kind of it was like a pregnancy, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>cove on.

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<v Speaker 3>So we were really working on three different channels, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think I could say them now. I mean one

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<v Speaker 3>of them was bringing stream spring training back, which hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>we'll still have in twenty twenty six. Another was an

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<v Speaker 3>affiliated team moving to Tucson where and.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard that was kind of like the strong that

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<v Speaker 2>one was. Yeah, we that was really unfortunately you could

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<v Speaker 2>tell those listening, You could tell us as much as.

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<v Speaker 3>You Yeah, it went really really really far down the line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we I thought we had it. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then this and now we're talking about the World

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<v Speaker 2>Baseball Classic, which is a big deal because it was

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen maybe three, four or five years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It did right before COVID, and so you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>difference now, I think from then is that it's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot bigger from a qualifier standpoint than it has been

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<v Speaker 2>in the past, just because the overall Classic has gotten

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<v Speaker 2>so huge. You know, people ask what it is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>really the World Cup to FIFA. That's what the World

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<v Speaker 2>Baseball Classic is to Major League Baseball. Yeah, it's funny

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<v Speaker 2>because I think I spoke to you at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I talked to your guy who we talked to

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<v Speaker 2>in New York. But the last month I'm small a

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<v Speaker 2>very good smart guy obviously with you guys in the WBC.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to a WBC event in Miami two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and eightish nineish when Arizona's played out there. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really know much about it and what a party it was,

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<v Speaker 2>and I couldn't tell you who was playing, but they

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<v Speaker 2>had a great time in the stands, great baseball. It

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<v Speaker 2>was at the Miami where they play you know, Pro

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl Football, for the Marlin Stadium, for the Marlin State

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<v Speaker 2>was it was. It was unbelievably cool to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, you look at the final in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>three Japan versus United States, of America drew ninety nine

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<v Speaker 3>and a half million people from a viewership standpoint. That's

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<v Speaker 3>that's a substantial growth from where it started.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, no, no question, and it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>coming here as a qualifier, correct, correct. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll have Columbia, Germany, China. And why am I

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<v Speaker 3>blanking now? Because yours? Because it's gracious. Like, let me

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<v Speaker 3>tell you. When you get into the studio. Jay and

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<v Speaker 3>I were in the studio, we blanked every time kwan, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>can you attest? And we go on staring directly in

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<v Speaker 3>my eyes like it's my soul.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not forgetting everything. I'm saying that one team, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's called getting old, you know, like blak, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, I can't pay at Miami. That's not right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I'll say it again. Germany, Brazil, Columbia and

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<v Speaker 3>China will be the four teams participating for how many days?

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<v Speaker 3>I will be March second, March third, March fourth, and

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<v Speaker 3>March sixth, so you'll have seven total games.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. In fact, you know, you just submitted some some

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<v Speaker 2>advertising with us that will start here in the next

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<v Speaker 2>day or two. So anybody's interested, we'll talk more about

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<v Speaker 2>it now. You can listen to it obviously on the

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<v Speaker 2>show every every two hours or whatever it is. So

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<v Speaker 2>chances to get tickets, Yeah, you want to.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to go to ww dot www dot World

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<v Speaker 3>Baseball Classic dot com, or you can go to our

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<v Speaker 3>website which is SASTFA s A s t f A

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<v Speaker 3>dot com and I'll share the link if needed as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and we'll talk more about this as we go along.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll be on the show every now and again. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>leading up to it to promote the event. It should

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<v Speaker 2>be fun. I look forward to it. Early March, all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, we gets winter. Right, here's winter. I

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<v Speaker 2>know it's crazy. It's gonna be cold the next few days,

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<v Speaker 2>like fifty eight here in the next couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>The next couple of days, well we were one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and two. Yeah, I never welcome to Christmas. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a little late, but it's cool. Uh. So we'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about that today and the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>way moving on, But let's talk a little about sports.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>NFL season's over. Uh finally, your boy, your boy caught me.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a horrible weekend. Really, he's a half a

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<v Speaker 2>game behind me. So we'll see what got interest with

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<v Speaker 2>with one week left? Uh, Jay, we have a competition,

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<v Speaker 2>so uh the NFL is going on. I think no surprises.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you think yesterday was just one of those days

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<v Speaker 2>where they didn't care, teams didn't care. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I was just gonna say, I think the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>overall surprise to me for the season of Cincinnati not

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<v Speaker 3>making the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, and then they fired their defensive court. Ye

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<v Speaker 2>are you a Cincinnati guy? No, I'm from here. I

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<v Speaker 2>went to Flying Wells. Oh really, I've lived all over

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<v Speaker 2>Okay because your name your name is, I didn't recognize

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<v Speaker 2>a name.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've been really quiet about what I've done in

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<v Speaker 3>the past. Let's not bring it up. Should not be here.

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<v Speaker 2>You and Jeff Hill and those guys would come and

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<v Speaker 2>go and and return home right and turned the health

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, anything for you. Yesterday's Minnesota Detroit game, Holy crap.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah that was that was a interesting game. I thought

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<v Speaker 5>Minnesota was gonna put up a better.

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<v Speaker 2>Fight, but they did. They just couldn't score, which makes

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<v Speaker 2>no sense. They owned that game in the first half

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<v Speaker 2>and then even down. Yeah, I think that's credit to

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<v Speaker 2>the Lions.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they took advantage of the home field, the

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<v Speaker 5>home crowd, and they wanted that the home field advantage

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<v Speaker 5>for going into the playoffs, and both deserved.

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<v Speaker 2>I think my.

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<v Speaker 5>Biggest surprise from this weekend was the Patriots firing their

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<v Speaker 5>head coach. Yeah when you're in Yeah, the rookie head coat.

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<v Speaker 5>It is not like you brought some went in that

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<v Speaker 5>had experience in the past. This was his first year

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<v Speaker 5>as an NFL head coach and now it's done well.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing that I'll tell you, I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things in this business. It's a business, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're as good as your last haircut. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get haircuts. Right. Do you know how this businesses?

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<v Speaker 3>And you probably I've been through it in professional baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand it completely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right. Everybody everybody has expiration dated some yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have to kind of reinvent yourself a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of different ways. Yeah. Yeah. What about anything else, We'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to the basketball. On the football. We're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce Pasco here in the first maybe in the next

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<v Speaker 2>ten twelve minutes. I talked about you a basketball. The

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<v Speaker 2>surprise win in my mind that they won that game,

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<v Speaker 2>and then tomorrow. They played West Virginia, right, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure you follow them. I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we go to every game, so I met, but

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<v Speaker 3>we pretty much plan our whole life around you at basketball,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you are too, So I am, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a diehard. You've a basketball really since since when I

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<v Speaker 3>think when I was eight. Oh, we started. I started

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<v Speaker 3>going to games with my best friend. He had he

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<v Speaker 3>had season tickets and so we woul get dropped.

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<v Speaker 2>So like nineteen eighty seven ish.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, eighty eight, eighty nine, the first what was the

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<v Speaker 3>first Fiesta Bowl that we had down here? Oh, it's

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<v Speaker 3>been eyes. I can remember that with going with my

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<v Speaker 3>dad when I was really small. Yeah, he's probably six

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<v Speaker 3>or seven. Okay, so you're yeah, that's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So I started covering the team in ninety one.

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<v Speaker 2>I got here in eighty seven. And you have my book.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, Yeah, shame on you, But do you have

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<v Speaker 2>one that you can sign for me? One go back?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like mister Haney green Acres, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>have all my stuff and you know, hey, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to watch Yeah, you got it like pizza. I won't

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<v Speaker 2>say Pee Diddy, but I have you know, yea, I

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<v Speaker 2>might try. I don't want to say no. In my truck,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a bunch of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I lived out of my truck for about twelve years,

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<v Speaker 3>so I know exactly what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, so I do have a book. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>was reserved from somebody else, but I can get them

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<v Speaker 2>one later. I love that. Yeah, so human who any

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<v Speaker 2>favorite player along those lines?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean right now, I mean I don't want but

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<v Speaker 3>Vsar and Brian are really I think for me, the

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<v Speaker 3>flow of the offense has turned completely with them on

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<v Speaker 3>the floor, right you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, everyone's everyone's saying that, and it's clear, So give

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<v Speaker 5>me the lineup.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you stick with it even though. Who's your

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<v Speaker 2>starting five? Though?

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<v Speaker 5>The ones that we have right now, they have right now,

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<v Speaker 5>the one that Tommy always puts.

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<v Speaker 2>Out there, and then get those guys in. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's working.

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<v Speaker 5>And why would you screw something that's working right now?

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<v Speaker 2>So you wouldn't move them to the starting whatnot? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you would. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's that's a tough question, right because I think

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's depending on what you're doing right now,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think the flow of the game has to

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<v Speaker 2>But I would probably move Visa definitely to the starting.

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<v Speaker 2>So give me a five because I think that people

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<v Speaker 2>who are just assuming, uh, you got Jayden, Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>got Caleb, you have kJ, Bryant and Visa, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's probably your your best five to start,

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<v Speaker 3>start and finish.

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<v Speaker 5>I still think you start del Warso Yeah. I think

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<v Speaker 5>kJ off the bench is a perfect spot for him

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<v Speaker 5>right now. I think he's enjoyed it. I think he's

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<v Speaker 5>team a lot more. YEA, what does still or so

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<v Speaker 5>give you, hopefully six to nine points a game?

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<v Speaker 2>Hasn't. But he hasn't. That's the thing, and you'd expect that,

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<v Speaker 2>but he hasn't.

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<v Speaker 5>I think a lot of people think he's a threat

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<v Speaker 5>and that kind of draws a little bit of attention

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<v Speaker 5>to him.

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<v Speaker 2>To free up for Caleb love for too, free up

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<v Speaker 2>for Jayden Bradley Man, are you reading a lot into that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're hopeful about that, But he just hasn't been the

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's not thought that he showed at there

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<v Speaker 5>are early stages of the season. You know, he had

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of good showings in the Bahamas, but since then,

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<v Speaker 5>you haven't really seen the sharp shooting that you'd hope for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, no, no, And that's the lack of this

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<v Speaker 2>talent this team. You have no outside shooting that's consistent.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you need to be able to expand the perimeter,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think that's what you're looking at. The last

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<v Speaker 3>game right in Cincinnati. It's a road test in the

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<v Speaker 3>Big twelve, your first road test against the top twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five team. They go into Cincinnati and realistically without Bryant

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<v Speaker 3>expanding that perimeter, but he had fifteen points. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's big threes, right, and then the expansion. If he

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't get into foul trouble, it's a different story. But

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<v Speaker 3>you saw once they come out, they came off the court,

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<v Speaker 3>the flow of the game was stagnant, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>So it's you're right that you have to have some

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<v Speaker 3>perimeter link there too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no question. And you're not going to get that

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<v Speaker 2>game from him all the time. But they needed that

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<v Speaker 2>game from him then, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And you might not get it from him, but

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<v Speaker 3>maybe kJ gets that game the next time. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>we've been reliant on one or two guys for so long.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nice when you have some different options. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>to Tommy's credit, this is the deepest team he's had

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<v Speaker 3>since he's been at the u of A. So finding

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<v Speaker 3>that lineup.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, that's what do you say that because it

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<v Speaker 2>may be the deepest that I haven't really thought about that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's probably not the best one avall of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean you can go all the way. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Conrad could steal five to six minutes a game on

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<v Speaker 3>most teams easily, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, he didn't get anything right because you already

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<v Speaker 2>know who Tommy trusts in situations, and he'll go eight

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<v Speaker 2>if he doesn't trust anybody else. And that's what he did.

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<v Speaker 2>I think tomorrow it'll be another eight.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, why would you change your game plan after

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<v Speaker 3>West Virginia, I mean, after Cincinnati to go in West Virginia,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean that's you're gonna go back and

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<v Speaker 3>look at film. You're gonna figure out what's worked and

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<v Speaker 3>what hasn't worked. I mean, we question what's happening in

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<v Speaker 3>that game, in game decisions and really set aside. But

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<v Speaker 3>once you have a chance to really digest it and

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<v Speaker 3>go back. I think it's probably going to be that

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<v Speaker 3>eight for a while. Yeah, especially on the road, especially

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<v Speaker 3>on the road, especially on the road, and then this

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<v Speaker 3>in this league is just so brutal. I mean, were

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<v Speaker 3>you surprised that they were.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't think Cincinnati had been that good they lost

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<v Speaker 5>to previously. Yeah, and so I thought we had a chance.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought it was going to if we were to

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<v Speaker 5>if they were to win, it was going to be

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<v Speaker 5>something of a they're playing a bad game. We're playing

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<v Speaker 5>the bad game, but we just played a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>better that day. They looks good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's learning not to be a over.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a little surprised just because Cincinnati just lost

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<v Speaker 3>to Kansas State, So you figure at home they were

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<v Speaker 3>going to come out and that's a that's a tough

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<v Speaker 3>house to play in on it, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't till it wasn't well. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>could detect that from the TV, because they seemed subdued

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<v Speaker 2>until they went mid that rally. I mean we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of gave it to him pretty early too. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>we all know that the league is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>crazy every spot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you don't get it. I mean, it's not like

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<v Speaker 3>you get a softball.

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<v Speaker 2>In there at all, you know. Uh So, so we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see what happens tomorrow. It'll be different. Well, they played,

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<v Speaker 2>they played well enough to win. They were fantastic in

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<v Speaker 2>the first half. That easy, the first the best half

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<v Speaker 2>of that this year. Absolutely. Yeah. And then and then

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<v Speaker 2>here's the problem. You've seen this collapse before. It cost

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<v Speaker 2>him a loss U c l A. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We were at that game, you know, and that was

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<v Speaker 3>probably one of the most depressed times in my life

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<v Speaker 3>sitting there just because you're lost to UCLA, just because

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<v Speaker 3>you're watching the flow of the game and you're actually

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<v Speaker 3>seeing us change and evolve and getting mature, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>we are that team. And then the last part of

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<v Speaker 3>the game, you're like, we didn't score and the last

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<v Speaker 3>we scored two points in the last seven minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, you're you use the phrase that I like hearing,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's true. The flow of the game. This team

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<v Speaker 2>is a non flow of the game. For Timmy Lloyd.

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<v Speaker 2>They go in spurts, right, and then they then they stagnant.

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<v Speaker 2>It's stilted and very what the hell's going on? But

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<v Speaker 2>in that stretch of ten minutes of UCLA just oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I know this team. I've seen this team for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. Yeah, and then they stopped again. Yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like somebody puts the brakes on. They say no,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go back to half court and you're like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's identity and you haven't been forever.

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<v Speaker 3>No, and you reminded it reminded me of the Remember

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<v Speaker 3>the Xavier game in sweet sixteen when we we had

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<v Speaker 3>a terrible last eight minutes, right, yes, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think Marketing got a shot off the whole time, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're going, what it reminded me of that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>flow where it's like that's a good point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good point. But you know who the

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<v Speaker 2>best defender of Marketing in that game was, Oh Ture?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, well I think well, I mean that

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<v Speaker 3>goes with you say, didn't give them the ball, didn't

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<v Speaker 3>give him the ball in the final.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a miserable game because they had every chance

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<v Speaker 2>to get to the lead eight. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We've had so many of those opportunities. So it's what

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<v Speaker 3>I like to see. And I'll say this and we

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<v Speaker 3>obviously it's just my two cents but it looks like

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<v Speaker 3>the he just turned a little bit, hitting tough shots

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<v Speaker 3>in tough situations. Like I think early in the season

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<v Speaker 3>we probably would have folded in that situation when they

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<v Speaker 3>come back and tie the game, but it looked like

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<v Speaker 3>we we I mean, Bradley finding a way to just

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<v Speaker 3>drive to the hoop and get a ball, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>get a basket. kJ didn't play exceptionally well, but he

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<v Speaker 3>went for five minutes where he was probably our best

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<v Speaker 3>player in the court and you needed it, and.

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<v Speaker 2>And Caleb was not Caleb great first half? Right, So yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 2>Jayden's so critical just because he gifts down hill very well.

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<v Speaker 2>He's an aggressive guy, and that's how this team needs

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<v Speaker 2>to play very aggressively in order for them to look

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<v Speaker 2>how we've used to see him is very aggressive, going after,

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<v Speaker 2>going after, and Jayden kind of sets that tone.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you guys, I'm gonna ask you both this because

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<v Speaker 3>you're I mean, you're obviously much more involved into it.

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<v Speaker 3>But without Mo on the floor, right, do you think

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<v Speaker 3>that they built an offensive planned around Mo going into

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<v Speaker 3>the season, and with the injury happening, they had to

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<v Speaker 3>redevelop what their thought process was.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good question. I don't know, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think so. That's a good question to Tommy though, now

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<v Speaker 2>that he's out, I think it's not that it's a

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<v Speaker 2>good thing that he's out, but it helps the offensive flow,

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<v Speaker 2>to use your word, and that's what Tommy is about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that flow to creep us is not is not

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<v Speaker 2>that flow? You know what I'm saying. He's just a slower,

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<v Speaker 2>prodding type of guy. Good question. I don't know to it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think they look fine without him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm a little surprised of how

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<v Speaker 3>well put together vsar is. I think that last year

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<v Speaker 3>maybe red shirting and actually developing was hugely successful for.

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<v Speaker 2>I asked him that question six weeks ago. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was Was it a benefit? Was a in hindsight?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it a benefit that you were red shirted? Not

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<v Speaker 2>the circumstances of it, but but that he was red

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<v Speaker 2>Schert started out, got to see you got to get bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>He got bigger, right, uh, and smarter probably, he says.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time, I didn't think that, but but here

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<v Speaker 2>we are, and you know he's playing like you. He's

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<v Speaker 13>Breaking down all the X is a ohs. This is

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to Why the Ball Here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Bavera. In with me today

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<v Speaker 2>is Blake Eager and now on the phone we have

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce Pasco out in the cold country. How you doing, Bruce?

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<v Speaker 14>Pretty good? How's going?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you already hit the slopes? Do they have slopes

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<v Speaker 2>over there?

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<v Speaker 14>The gentle ones? Yeah, you know, it's not like Colorado

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<v Speaker 14>or Utah, but they do. Usually they make a lot

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<v Speaker 14>of snow. But the other nations taking care of there

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<v Speaker 14>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess no. Cool? Cool, So now you gotta work.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you doing? This is when we were on

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<v Speaker 2>the road, it was a rare three day We never

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<v Speaker 2>had like three days. Yeah, you have three days?

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I mean the Pac twelve started splitting up some

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<v Speaker 14>of those they do like a Thursday Sunday, and you know,

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<v Speaker 14>depending on where the locations where teams would either stay

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<v Speaker 14>out or come back.

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<v Speaker 9>But obviously this.

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<v Speaker 14>Far away Arizona didn't really have much of a choice.

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<v Speaker 14>So they're they're just here. And they actually the timing

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<v Speaker 14>and worked out well from them because they were able

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<v Speaker 14>to leave Cincinnati literally like an hour before the snowstorm hit,

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<v Speaker 14>and they flew to West Virginia, where a lot of

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<v Speaker 14>flights are still since then cancelled, and got in, got

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<v Speaker 14>to their hotel, and I just started coming down and

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<v Speaker 14>I guess, you know, they've gotten back and forth to

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<v Speaker 14>their you know practices. Okay, they did do a good

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<v Speaker 14>job of plowing the streets and everything around her. So

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<v Speaker 14>so it's good like that. Once you're here, and that's

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<v Speaker 14>the thing, and they're here, so you know, and maybe

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<v Speaker 14>we'll see, maybe it turns out to be a you know,

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<v Speaker 14>one of those those good kind of bonding experiences which

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<v Speaker 14>sometimes can happen on the right.

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<v Speaker 2>You never know right right, no question, So let me

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<v Speaker 2>ask you like I asked Blake here and uh and

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<v Speaker 2>one did you were you surprised or or not surprised

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<v Speaker 2>that they won Saturday?

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<v Speaker 8>No?

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<v Speaker 14>I thought that could go either way.

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<v Speaker 15>I mean, you know, Cincinnati I looked at since time.

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<v Speaker 15>I mean, they're they're really good defensively, but you know,

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<v Speaker 15>not a great shooting team, and they were balanced but

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<v Speaker 15>not super deep, and so I just thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 15>if they you know, it's kind of simplistic to say,

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<v Speaker 15>but I mean if they just came out and played

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<v Speaker 15>hard and.

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<v Speaker 14>Were motivated, I thought they could do it. And that's

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<v Speaker 14>kind of what they did. I mean, you know, I

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<v Speaker 14>think the biggest thing is they just showed that, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>kind of resiliencies and a little bit of toughness, which

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<v Speaker 14>they hadn't had all season. I mean, you know that,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, losing in overtime to West Virginia, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, kind of not even really being all that

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<v Speaker 14>competitive against Wisconsin and then UKLA giving away thirteen point lead.

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<v Speaker 14>It was just they just didn't seem to have that

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<v Speaker 14>you know, inner fortitude, and you know, for a team

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<v Speaker 14>that still has quite a bit of talent, and you

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<v Speaker 14>could say some of its roles coming together. Guys are

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<v Speaker 14>accepting the roles now and all that. But but I

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<v Speaker 14>think as much as anything, that they just seemed to

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<v Speaker 14>find a little bit in them that they you know,

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<v Speaker 14>really really really really really felt like, you know, really

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<v Speaker 14>wanted to go after it. And you know, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 14>also on their minds that if they don't start going

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<v Speaker 14>after it, they're not going to get in the tournament. So,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, together a couple of good, good wins, and

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<v Speaker 14>you know, maybe they can go twelve and eight or

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<v Speaker 14>maybe even thirteen and seven in the big tall who knows.

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<v Speaker 14>It's too early to say, but that's the kind of

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<v Speaker 14>record they probably do need to be safe to get

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<v Speaker 14>in the tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>Ay, Bruce, this is Blake. It's great talking to you man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's an honor. So so question on my standpoint, like,

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<v Speaker 3>were you surprised how well we played against Cincinnati's bigs?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the links that they had. I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>where the surprising part for me came, where the links

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<v Speaker 3>that they had compared to us, it didn't didn't seem

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<v Speaker 3>to give us as much trouble as I was expecting.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, no, that's a good that's a good point. I think,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, I think Toby Walker had a tough game,

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<v Speaker 14>and you know, Trey Townsend was you know, not really

559
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<v Speaker 14>he missed you know, a couple of you know, makeable

560
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<v Speaker 14>shots there inside and so this guy struggled actually a

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<v Speaker 14>little bit. But I think Henry Basar just he was

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<v Speaker 14>you know, arguably the player of the game the way

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<v Speaker 14>he played in there, uh you know, inside and just

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<v Speaker 14>doing a lot of different things and when you have

565
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<v Speaker 14>you know, for assists and a couple of blocks or something,

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<v Speaker 14>and just they couldn't really deal with him because he

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<v Speaker 14>had that that combination of you know, size and you know,

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<v Speaker 14>some athleticism there, and it's just he's kind of a

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<v Speaker 14>laid back guy when he gets the fire bit in him.

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<v Speaker 14>And I think that happened a little bit on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 14>You can help with something. So, yeah, that's interesting. That's

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<v Speaker 14>gonna be interesting to see how this continues to play out,

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<v Speaker 14>because they're big zar you know, a little compromise, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>without without Creavius in there. So you know, that's the

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<v Speaker 14>kind of ef what they needed.

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<v Speaker 2>Asking the question you asked me about the previous thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, do you think that, you know, as we start

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<v Speaker 3>to see this team evolve and like you said before,

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<v Speaker 3>that they're buying into their roles and I think you're

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<v Speaker 3>starting to see some some people rise the top that

581
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<v Speaker 3>you maybe weren't sure of. But with Bryan's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>mature evolved, you know, evolving maturity and Visar stepping up

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<v Speaker 3>the way. Did do you think that this team, the

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<v Speaker 3>offensive flow was kind of based around Mo to start

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<v Speaker 3>the season.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, yeah, I think I think. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 14>I think kind of basically they wanted that kind of

588
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<v Speaker 14>inside out thing and kind of have that that two

589
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<v Speaker 14>way feel like they have with Caleb Glove and Newmar Ballow,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, and then back with you know, and Tabella's

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<v Speaker 14>was there. I think I think kind of that was

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<v Speaker 14>the goal. But you know, then it became this perimeter

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<v Speaker 14>team without him and Love they would go as they

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<v Speaker 14>as Love took him, you know, for the first twelve

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<v Speaker 14>games or whatever. And now, you know, if Saturday was

596
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<v Speaker 14>any indication they're actually showing like, hey, maybe they can

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<v Speaker 14>win a game at Caleb b Love is just kind

598
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<v Speaker 14>of average, which he was on Saturday for his standards,

599
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<v Speaker 14>you know, so that that was really probably you know,

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<v Speaker 14>the biggest takeaway is that they actually showed a little

601
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<v Speaker 14>more ways to do it. And you're right, Ryan, I

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<v Speaker 14>think Bryant mad sure. That's that's been a big story too,

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<v Speaker 14>and just and also how he's played off the bench

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<v Speaker 14>and sort of accepted that role, not only playing off

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<v Speaker 14>the bench but also playing a lot of power forward.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, if you're kirat Bryant, you're to fixate McDonald's

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<v Speaker 14>all American. You want to come in and start at

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<v Speaker 14>the three or the two, you know, and get your

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<v Speaker 14>NBA stocker up or whatever and impress the people that way.

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<v Speaker 14>And right now he's kind of doing neither, because they

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<v Speaker 14>need him to come off the bench and kind of

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<v Speaker 14>provide a spark, and they need him at the four

613
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<v Speaker 14>a lot, and he's doing that, and he's doing it.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, he's doing that at a really high level.

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<v Speaker 14>So you know, and I think ultimately maybe he's also

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<v Speaker 14>mature enough to realize that, you know, when you do

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<v Speaker 14>stuff like that, d m bas scouts will take the

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<v Speaker 14>standing by and you're also healthy to tea went, so

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<v Speaker 14>you know, all these good things can happen, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>and it's you know, in these kind of developments.

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<v Speaker 2>So, so about two months ago, I'll give you a date,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe November seventh, November tenth, around there. He made a

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<v Speaker 2>comment to one of the coaches that I really like

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<v Speaker 2>this team the way it was constructed. It looked like

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<v Speaker 2>it had the right pieces and everybody had its situation,

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<v Speaker 2>its roles. This is November, right, And I'm thinking, and

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<v Speaker 2>then then they go up against some pretty good teams

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's it's flawed, and I think it's flawed.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, And I still think it's flawed, but I

630
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<v Speaker 2>like the pieces. And then you see they start to

631
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<v Speaker 2>lose a lot more than usual, and then I'm thinking,

632
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<v Speaker 2>maybe the pieces just aren't good. I'm not sure if

633
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<v Speaker 2>you feel the same way about the pieces not being good.

634
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<v Speaker 2>But we already changed the starting lineup. We wanted to

635
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<v Speaker 2>put Brian in the starting lineup along with Henry. Henry right,

636
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<v Speaker 2>Henry h And I.

637
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<v Speaker 3>Think that would be the change, right, that would I mean,

638
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:06.599
<v Speaker 3>I think if you're going long term, you're trying to

639
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<v Speaker 3>get your best five on the court.

640
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what would you what would you do?

641
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:13.559
<v Speaker 14>Yeah?

642
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:15.200
<v Speaker 2>What would you do with that story line up?

643
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:15.519
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

644
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<v Speaker 14>No, I agree, it's it's a really kind of a

645
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:23.400
<v Speaker 14>weird developing situation where the best players are the best

646
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:27.359
<v Speaker 14>combinations probably aren't the starters and so yeah, but they're

647
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:29.720
<v Speaker 14>getting good production with the guys coming off the bench

648
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:34.119
<v Speaker 14>as they are. Yeah. Yeah, And this is like a

649
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:36.880
<v Speaker 14>first for you know, Boyd's first three teams, it was

650
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:39.119
<v Speaker 14>clear cut who was who was doing what. I think

651
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:41.240
<v Speaker 14>that's what helped those teams. They had guys, you know,

652
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:44.839
<v Speaker 14>with a couple of exceptions, the guys you know, had

653
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.279
<v Speaker 14>their roles cut out from the beginning and they disagrew

654
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:49.839
<v Speaker 14>to accept them and and you know, adjusted to them.

655
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<v Speaker 14>And this is the team that's got a bunch of

656
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<v Speaker 14>different ways. So it is interesting now here we are,

657
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:56.720
<v Speaker 14>you know, second league of league plays. Are they going

658
00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:59.319
<v Speaker 14>to make another change or is Tommy Lloyd just going

659
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<v Speaker 14>to ride with the the way it goes. I mean,

660
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:04.000
<v Speaker 14>it is true that you know he is you know,

661
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:07.279
<v Speaker 14>he's got guys like kJ Lewis and Bass are sometimes

662
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<v Speaker 14>in there at the end of games. And that's always

663
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:11.319
<v Speaker 14>the argument. You make two guys that don't start, like, hey,

664
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<v Speaker 14>it's going to be about the finishes and you're gonna

665
00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:15.720
<v Speaker 14>get starved a minutes. But you know, when you don't

666
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:17.680
<v Speaker 14>start that it takes and then it's you know, a

667
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:19.759
<v Speaker 14>way that you could be playing and still get the

668
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:23.240
<v Speaker 14>same amount of rest. So it's you know, obviously that's

669
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:25.559
<v Speaker 14>why guys start. You know, you want him on the

670
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<v Speaker 14>court as much as possible. And I don't know that

671
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<v Speaker 14>it's reached that point now. I don't anticipate they would

672
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<v Speaker 14>do something in the middle of a road trip, but

673
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<v Speaker 14>it is something to keep an eye on. I do

674
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<v Speaker 14>think if if Woyd's going to make any other changes, though,

675
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:39.000
<v Speaker 14>it would come pretty soon, because I know he likes

676
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:41.559
<v Speaker 14>to and kind of Sean Miller did too, Like you know,

677
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:44.319
<v Speaker 14>they like to get into you know, a league, play

678
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:46.839
<v Speaker 14>with a set five and a set eight or nine

679
00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:49.640
<v Speaker 14>or whatever and deal with it. You know, this is

680
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:50.960
<v Speaker 14>just this is a little.

681
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:54.359
<v Speaker 3>Different, Chris, you think you know, And I'm trying to

682
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:55.799
<v Speaker 3>figure out how to ask this in my head, but

683
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<v Speaker 3>do you think it's more difficult coming from a men

684
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:02.440
<v Speaker 3>major school to a Big twelve school or coming from

685
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 3>being in a high school McDonald's All American going to

686
00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:06.480
<v Speaker 3>a Big twelve school.

687
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:14.279
<v Speaker 14>Well yeah, well that I mean, adjustment wise, probably easier

688
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:17.319
<v Speaker 14>for the mid majors because they usually play a lot

689
00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:19.319
<v Speaker 14>of high majors like Tray Townsend played really well in

690
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:23.559
<v Speaker 14>the tournament. Yeah, y too, you know, yeah, yeah, he

691
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:26.279
<v Speaker 14>was really I mean, everybody forget his name, but the

692
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:29.759
<v Speaker 14>guy who had the threes or whatever, Zach and they

693
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:32.359
<v Speaker 14>it was a lot of buzz about him. But Townsen

694
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:36.119
<v Speaker 14>played really well. But he's you know, he's he struggled

695
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:37.960
<v Speaker 14>a little bit against some of the high majors this year.

696
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:40.680
<v Speaker 14>So I think the difference is Carter Bryant had a

697
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:44.359
<v Speaker 14>big jump. But you know it's I guess the thing

698
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:46.640
<v Speaker 14>is if you make Mole Donald's all Americans, that means

699
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:49.079
<v Speaker 14>you're a pretty darn good player and you're you're, you know,

700
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:51.079
<v Speaker 14>probably an NBA prospect and you're going.

701
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 2>To rise up.

702
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:54.359
<v Speaker 14>It's just you know, so you have a steeper learning curve, yes,

703
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:57.440
<v Speaker 14>but you're better your your floors, your ceiling, it is high.

704
00:31:57.440 --> 00:31:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Excuse me.

705
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:00.160
<v Speaker 14>And that's what I think we're seeing with Brian is,

706
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:02.640
<v Speaker 14>you know, all in a span of thirteen games, I

707
00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:05.799
<v Speaker 14>mean he's come you know, adjusted to different positions on

708
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:10.000
<v Speaker 14>the off the bench starting three four, you know, and boom,

709
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:12.359
<v Speaker 14>and now he's really looking, you know, starting to look

710
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.119
<v Speaker 14>like the guy that I think we all expect him.

711
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:17.079
<v Speaker 3>He's got a little swagger out there. And that's why

712
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:19.119
<v Speaker 3>I like saying that's what he needed, That's what he needed.

713
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:21.480
<v Speaker 3>He's a high character individual young man, and you see

714
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:23.079
<v Speaker 3>him on the floor and I was telling I think

715
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:26.480
<v Speaker 3>I was telling my wife last week that it's he's

716
00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:28.440
<v Speaker 3>a little jay now that he's got some confidence, and

717
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:28.920
<v Speaker 3>I like that.

718
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:30.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it took him.

719
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:34.559
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean, if anything, I think

720
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:36.799
<v Speaker 14>that's true with with a bunch of these guys that

721
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:39.319
<v Speaker 14>they almost sometimes are too nice and you know they're

722
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:42.720
<v Speaker 14>they're generally I think this team actually is pretty high

723
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:44.880
<v Speaker 14>character guys and all the way up and down and

724
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:47.559
<v Speaker 14>you know, and you know they're not, but most of

725
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:49.160
<v Speaker 14>them are. Most of them get a little tough on

726
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:51.480
<v Speaker 14>the court, but you know, sometimes it takes a little

727
00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:54.039
<v Speaker 14>more getting into him or or you know, I think

728
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 14>in Bryant's case too, it was, you know, getting the

729
00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:59.599
<v Speaker 14>confidence to say, I'm a true freshman, I'm still going

730
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:02.000
<v Speaker 14>to do that us and you know, and and uh

731
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<v Speaker 14>and be able to kind of kind of kind of

732
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:06.559
<v Speaker 14>act like that a little bit. And you know that

733
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:09.480
<v Speaker 14>that maybe just took him a few games to to, uh,

734
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:10.680
<v Speaker 14>to really start acting I.

735
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<v Speaker 2>Think last week or two weeks ago I speak to

736
00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:17.319
<v Speaker 2>someone about that. I don't remember an all American and

737
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:20.359
<v Speaker 2>McDonald's all American for that matter being not was it

738
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:23.599
<v Speaker 2>with you one that that they're not cocky or they're

739
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:25.440
<v Speaker 2>not have a chip on their shoulders? Yeah, you know

740
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:27.839
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. And we've we've covered a lot of them, Bruce, right,

741
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:30.319
<v Speaker 2>you know they have had thirty Yeah, and I can't

742
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:33.079
<v Speaker 2>remember one thinking Oh, he's kind of shy or he's

743
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:34.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of reserved. I mean, they don't do that.

744
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:37.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there, I mean they've got the same personality traits

745
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:40.000
<v Speaker 3>similar I mean, that's what gets you there as part

746
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:40.680
<v Speaker 3>of the Yeah.

747
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:43.160
<v Speaker 14>I mean, I right, I agree with you. I think

748
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:44.759
<v Speaker 14>the only guy I could maybe think of like that

749
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:47.440
<v Speaker 14>would be Chase Bettinger and kind of good, also a

750
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:49.839
<v Speaker 14>southern California maybe a little beach in him, you know

751
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.839
<v Speaker 14>very much, and come out in his volleyball career. And

752
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:55.799
<v Speaker 14>Carter Brian you know he's from Riverside and that you know,

753
00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:58.720
<v Speaker 14>you know there's some tough guys that come out of

754
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:01.720
<v Speaker 14>there and and all that. But you know, you played,

755
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:03.920
<v Speaker 14>i'd you played one year at Newport Beach. I mean,

756
00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:06.000
<v Speaker 14>you know, how do you get testing at Newport Beach.

757
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:08.320
<v Speaker 14>It's just like there's no adversity there.

758
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:11.559
<v Speaker 2>The mean streets of Newport Beach. Wow, okay, you know,

759
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:15.519
<v Speaker 2>just like from your area, Bruce, the mean streets of

760
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Sam hughes.

761
00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:18.920
<v Speaker 14>Man.

762
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:20.639
<v Speaker 4>You know.

763
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:24.880
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I don't know so that he's getting there. I

764
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:26.840
<v Speaker 14>mean maybe in that sense, you know, the big twelve

765
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:30.719
<v Speaker 14>plane in this you know, competition and against guys from

766
00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:33.360
<v Speaker 14>you know, all kinds of all over the country and

767
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:35.639
<v Speaker 14>playing all playing games all over the country. You know,

768
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:37.599
<v Speaker 14>maybe it's taken him out of that comfort. And in

769
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:39.280
<v Speaker 14>fact I heard today I don't know if it's true

770
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:41.159
<v Speaker 14>because I couldn't talk to him, but I heard today

771
00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:44.239
<v Speaker 14>is the first time he's actually seen snow, like snowfall.

772
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:47.599
<v Speaker 14>You know, I'm sure so like you know, allcross the board,

773
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:48.880
<v Speaker 14>all kinds of things are different.

774
00:34:48.920 --> 00:34:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Right right. One quick question got about a minute. Uh,

775
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:53.719
<v Speaker 2>they win tomorrow, what are you sends tomorrow?

776
00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:58.159
<v Speaker 14>Wow? You know, you know, the thing I'm getting it

777
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:03.599
<v Speaker 14>is that both these teams are americanly different than they

778
00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:06.320
<v Speaker 14>were just what five six weeks ago when they met

779
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:09.519
<v Speaker 14>in the Bahamon. And you know, West Virginia doesn't have

780
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:11.960
<v Speaker 14>Tecker de Gradge. He's been at He's the guy who

781
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:14.599
<v Speaker 14>hit eight of twelve three who's just insane in that game,

782
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:18.280
<v Speaker 14>and they kept breaking him free of these little screens

783
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:19.719
<v Speaker 14>at the top of the key, and they, you know,

784
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:23.239
<v Speaker 14>Arizona couldn't deal with it. And you know that was

785
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:25.480
<v Speaker 14>back when Arizona also I think, you know, they lacked

786
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:28.400
<v Speaker 14>a little killer instinct and they they could have, you know,

787
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:30.760
<v Speaker 14>they they you know, they kept pulling in and West

788
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:32.760
<v Speaker 14>Virginia stayed the top. They didn't really have it in

789
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:36.519
<v Speaker 14>that game, and which was odd because West Virginia's playing

790
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:39.320
<v Speaker 14>a third straight overtime game and they still you know,

791
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:42.239
<v Speaker 14>pulled away in overtime. And then you know, and so

792
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:44.599
<v Speaker 14>they've adjusted without the prize. They've got a big guy

793
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:49.239
<v Speaker 14>in their two and forty pounds center who's now playing

794
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:51.280
<v Speaker 14>that didn't play in that game on the twenty ninth.

795
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:54.159
<v Speaker 14>It's a little bit different. They still have two really

796
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:58.159
<v Speaker 14>good wing players that can hurt. And and then Arizona

797
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:00.760
<v Speaker 14>is a different team too. I mean, they don't have

798
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:02.960
<v Speaker 14>previous you know, previous played in the West Virginia game

799
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:06.079
<v Speaker 14>wasn't effective. You know, he's out now and they've adjusted

800
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.280
<v Speaker 14>to him for the most part. You know, they're him

801
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:11.400
<v Speaker 14>being out and and I think, you know, we've been

802
00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:13.199
<v Speaker 14>talking and I think guys are accepting the role. So

803
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:15.360
<v Speaker 14>it was on a on a little bit of a role.

804
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:18.480
<v Speaker 14>And I think this, you know this, this could come

805
00:36:18.519 --> 00:36:22.480
<v Speaker 14>down to another close game. But also you know West

806
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:25.320
<v Speaker 14>Virginia is kind of on a roll. They just beat Kansas,

807
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:27.559
<v Speaker 14>they just got ranked today. You know, those are the

808
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:30.559
<v Speaker 14>kind of things that sometimes can be I mean, that

809
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:32.719
<v Speaker 14>can work either way. Maybe you have this momentum and

810
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:34.840
<v Speaker 14>you just keep going, but I think sometimes you stop

811
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:37.559
<v Speaker 14>and take a breath, and you might you might get beat.

812
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:40.039
<v Speaker 14>So it'll be interesting. I think it wouldn't surprise me

813
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:40.480
<v Speaker 14>either way.

814
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Really, I know you didn't, you didn't answer my.

815
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:46.400
<v Speaker 14>Questionry, but but I definitely think Arizona could win an

816
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:48.639
<v Speaker 14>In fact, I'm looking at KEMPOM right here. They KEMPOM

817
00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 14>has West Virginia winning by one, and that's yeah. I mean,

818
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:53.360
<v Speaker 14>I think it could be one position game either way.

819
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:55.599
<v Speaker 2>No wonder if Timmy only gets frustrated with you, you

820
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:58.039
<v Speaker 2>don't answer questions. You didn't answer mine.

821
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:02.639
<v Speaker 14>Some sometimes sometimes he doesn't either.

822
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.079
<v Speaker 2>You're right, we're not supposed to sit next to each

823
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:09.280
<v Speaker 2>other next time. So that's okay, Hey, take care.

824
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:11.719
<v Speaker 14>Of Oh yeah, I know, well, no, I know, but

825
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:13.679
<v Speaker 14>it's all you know, he likes to joke around.

826
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:14.400
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know.

827
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:18.880
<v Speaker 14>That's kind of universe freshing and sometimes it can actually

828
00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:22.039
<v Speaker 14>be interesting. You learned something through you know what what

829
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:24.519
<v Speaker 14>people are joking about. You learn how they are and

830
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:28.079
<v Speaker 14>sometimes but they're sometimes what they're really thinking and what's

831
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:29.280
<v Speaker 14>important all that.

832
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, enjoy West Virginia, stay warm, and we'll see

833
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:35.480
<v Speaker 2>you next weekend. For this week, thanks right, Thanks Bruce.

834
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:38.519
<v Speaker 2>We'll do as Bruce Pascal from The Daily Star, we

835
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:40.719
<v Speaker 2>got to go. We're a little over. We'll talk more

836
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:43.360
<v Speaker 2>about the hoops team here on the other side. If

837
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:45.519
<v Speaker 2>you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to join of the ball here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports team fifty on Steve Rivera. In with me

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, don't Yeah, We're ready to go. Let's get

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<v Speaker 2>Anything anybody want to call, please do five two zero

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<v Speaker 2>four one six seventy four forty talk about the basketball

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<v Speaker 2>team right now. We'll talk more about football here on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side with the Matt Modeno about four to seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to get an update on who's coming, who's going on,

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff. You know what's going on right hold

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<v Speaker 2>on so you'll get involved with that. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>ask anybody want to talk about basketball? Anything else about basketball?

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<v Speaker 2>You think no.

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<v Speaker 3>I's just gonna tell Bruce. I mean, I've spent a

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<v Speaker 3>little time in West Virginia. Whether that's fortunate or unfortunate,

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<v Speaker 3>depending on how you view you West Virginia, but I

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<v Speaker 3>literally had the best I say this all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>I had the best apple cobbler of my life. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I never thought I was a cobbler guy Charleston. So

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<v Speaker 3>we were playing against West Virginia Power, which I think

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<v Speaker 3>that was a ball team for the Brewers of the time,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think they had Ryan Brown on it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it blew my mind like I would. I

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<v Speaker 3>would think about going out of my way right now

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<v Speaker 3>to go back to that diner. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>it's still open. You don't have to beat some a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of snow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not going now. I'm not crazy. My son

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<v Speaker 2>played soccer out there in West Virginia. It was really cold.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll hill you know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a different kind of cold too, Like we talked

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<v Speaker 3>about cold that that Midwest you know area.

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<v Speaker 2>Cold goes right through your bath, Yes, it blows. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>how very much layer you have? You don't? It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter right right right, So let's talk real quick baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>So you I didn't realize you. You must have been

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<v Speaker 3>a pretty good player. I was decent. Yeah, what position?

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<v Speaker 3>I was a starting pitcher? The old picture Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, figured for maybe your build, maybe a short stop,

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<v Speaker 2>third basement.

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<v Speaker 3>It's definitely not a short stop build. It's maybe more

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<v Speaker 3>of like an eighties catcher build now.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, but you know, twenty five years ago, probably

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<v Speaker 2>a lot thinner, you know, taller. Uh no, Okay. As

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, somebody sent me a note someone you probably know,

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<v Speaker 2>what was your experience coaching, Uh, Robbie Mohen. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So Robbie and I had the you know, we It's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of crazy because Robbie didn't really know of me

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<v Speaker 3>before because he's an older.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy and he and he was he's a Flooring Wells kid,

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<v Speaker 2>like we grew up almost neighborhoods, right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So he went to Walter Douglass. I went to Homer Davis.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm across the street from Floring Wells. He was down

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<v Speaker 3>the street. So it's like, you know, we're a tight

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<v Speaker 3>knit community. Like I tell people like that Flowing Wells

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<v Speaker 3>group is like we take care of our own. So

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<v Speaker 3>it was crazy. I didn't get to meet him until

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<v Speaker 3>we stepped when we were in Moscow coaching the Russian

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<v Speaker 3>national team. So I was supposed to go over there

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<v Speaker 3>with coach Stit Jerry Stitt, who's my mentor in this legend,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, arguably one of the greatest coaches of all time,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe the best hitting coach of all time, right, especially

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<v Speaker 3>with his legacy with Kay Long and all those guys

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<v Speaker 3>that are in the big leagues now. But he couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>make it, and so Robbie replaced him. So that was

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<v Speaker 3>the first time. It was great Robbie. Robbie and I

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<v Speaker 3>still talk.

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<v Speaker 2>All the time. Yeah, yeah, No, he was a stood duck.

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<v Speaker 2>He met his wife over there too. Oh really Russian? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Russian woman? Oh okay, okay, And you were a coach. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we were coaching the Russian national team. Okay, how did

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<v Speaker 2>that tribe? How did that happen?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I was coaching like I had international experience because I

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<v Speaker 3>coached the Swedish national team and their junior national team,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have to have some No, I might have

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<v Speaker 3>no Russian. I have a zero Russian play. Coach Dick

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<v Speaker 3>called me one day and he's like, hey, do you

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<v Speaker 3>want to coach the Russian national team? And I said,

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<v Speaker 3>let me check with my family and make sure it's okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and they said, yeah, let's let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sold. This is sixteen twenty, sixteen thirties. Yeah, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was a great experience. Did I bet I didn't

993
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<v Speaker 2>realize you were like this nationally internationally. Guy, listen, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just a kid from Flooring Wells. Well yeah, sure, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know cool. Good for you. So so you played

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<v Speaker 2>ballot in Florid Walls, you played balet.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I went to Eastern Arizona. I didn't have any

998
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<v Speaker 3>scholarships come out of high school. I was fortunate enough

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<v Speaker 3>to have, like I don't know if you spend a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of time in Flord Wells or am file and

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<v Speaker 3>give you a little story since we've got probably some

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<v Speaker 3>time to kill, right, So I I had no scholarships.

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<v Speaker 4>I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was fortunate enough to or offers at that point.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm six three, Okay, yeah, so I but I mean

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<v Speaker 3>we I'm not going to say what I was going

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<v Speaker 3>to say there, but we'll move on from there. So

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<v Speaker 3>I was fortunate enough to take some pitching lessons at

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<v Speaker 3>that time from Brent Strom, which where we talked now,

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<v Speaker 3>especially at your sold is really close with him, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're very fortunate to have him in two hund right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And he had taught to the juve.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I had a friend of my dad's had

1014
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<v Speaker 3>had played the U but he had reached out to

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<v Speaker 3>coach back now at Eastern. So coach back now, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a summer at that point, still no offers nineteen. This

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<v Speaker 3>is two thousand, two thousand, going in two thousand and

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and one, I had no offers. So coach

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<v Speaker 3>back Noew comes out to watch us play Amphi. So

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you know Amphi and Flowing Wall's

1021
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<v Speaker 3>Amphi High School and Flow Wells High School probably don't

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<v Speaker 3>get along really well. Like we don't like it. We

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<v Speaker 3>would we would fight everybody else, but against each other.

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<v Speaker 3>We always fight, So we play the game. I'm in

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<v Speaker 3>the parking lot having this conversation with coach back now,

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<v Speaker 3>like he said, I'd like you to come out, you'd

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<v Speaker 3>have to walk on. We don't have any collegsh I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really care, Like I just keep a window open.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all I care. Like all sleep on the field,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. It doesn't matter to me. As I'm having

1031
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<v Speaker 3>this conversation, I look over. Our players get in a

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<v Speaker 3>full out fistfight brawl with their parents. So I'm having

1033
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<v Speaker 3>this conversation with coach Bagno and I turn and our

1034
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<v Speaker 3>players are fighting their parents, and then their players start

1035
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<v Speaker 3>fighting like so there's a full on brawl in the

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<v Speaker 3>parking lot, and I'm trying just to get on to college.

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<v Speaker 3>So so this is a this is a make or

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<v Speaker 3>break moment. This is a make or break moment in

1039
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<v Speaker 3>my life. Like, I'm not here today if I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have that conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Because let mean, guess you have two options, go help

1042
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<v Speaker 2>your teammates or stay out of it. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I hope you stayed out of it. I did that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a long let's just say it was a

1045
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:48.760
<v Speaker 2>long summer. But at that point I stayed out of it.

1046
00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:49.039
<v Speaker 13>Yeah.

1047
00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Did you get grief for the teammates that you were No?

1048
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:54.000
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, no, Yeah, they understood the situation that

1049
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:55.719
<v Speaker 3>I was in. I think I was only I was

1050
00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:57.400
<v Speaker 3>the only place person to go on to play college.

1051
00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:00.440
<v Speaker 3>Hey that group, Hey one, I have a due here.

1052
00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:04.159
<v Speaker 3>You want to smoke it? Yeah, but there's there's you know,

1053
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:06.800
<v Speaker 3>acts or tomorrow. You know what I'm saying, Either you

1054
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:08.280
<v Speaker 3>say yes or you say no.

1055
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:08.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1056
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Well one's a smart one though, I mean yeah what

1057
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:14.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, one could probably do that. You

1058
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:17.119
<v Speaker 3>could probably, But what's the thirty two on the acts

1059
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:18.000
<v Speaker 3>with your eyes closed?

1060
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Right now? Yeah?

1061
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:21.679
<v Speaker 3>Simple this guy goes to one of the best high

1062
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:24.280
<v Speaker 3>schools in the country, So that's cool.

1063
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:27.880
<v Speaker 2>So then so then you get that situation or opportunity, right, Yeah,

1064
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:29.840
<v Speaker 2>I went to Eastern Yeah.

1065
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:33.719
<v Speaker 3>And then I remember like our winter meetings after the fall,

1066
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:34.960
<v Speaker 3>which I thought I had a pretty good fall. I

1067
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:36.719
<v Speaker 3>remember Coach Backnell pulling me in the office and kind

1068
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:38.239
<v Speaker 3>of saying like, I don't know if you're going to

1069
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:39.760
<v Speaker 3>make the team. You might be a red shirt. We

1070
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:41.119
<v Speaker 3>don't really know where it's going to go. And I

1071
00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:44.599
<v Speaker 3>was kind of surprised at that conversation. And then so

1072
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:50.079
<v Speaker 3>we go into spring and final roster, doing final cuts,

1073
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:52.000
<v Speaker 3>and I remember we had a left hander that was

1074
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:54.079
<v Speaker 3>definitely going to make the team over me. He got

1075
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:58.280
<v Speaker 3>arrested maybe two days before final cuts, and I got

1076
00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:01.039
<v Speaker 3>his roster spot. And I remember remember, listen my dad.

1077
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:03.119
<v Speaker 3>My dad would go to every single game, and I

1078
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:05.360
<v Speaker 3>Coach Bagnell had no plan on playing me, like I

1079
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:07.679
<v Speaker 3>was not going to pitch, and I couldn't Like I was.

1080
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:09.639
<v Speaker 3>I just couldn't get my head wrapped around. And it

1081
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:11.400
<v Speaker 3>actually started to get to the point where I was like,

1082
00:48:11.519 --> 00:48:13.599
<v Speaker 3>do I really want to you know, I started questioning

1083
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:16.000
<v Speaker 3>that was the first time in my life. And I

1084
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:19.360
<v Speaker 3>think we were playing maybe Central Arizona, and they were

1085
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:21.760
<v Speaker 3>blown us out. I mean we lost so many games

1086
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:23.639
<v Speaker 3>that year, I think, really blown us out, like eighteen

1087
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:26.480
<v Speaker 3>to two. And he's like, here, go eat up some innings.

1088
00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:28.280
<v Speaker 3>And my dad was there, and I went. I threw

1089
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:30.480
<v Speaker 3>two innings, I struck out all six hitters, and then

1090
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:33.119
<v Speaker 3>from there on I literally closed every single game.

1091
00:48:33.239 --> 00:48:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow. And I was in my mind, how do

1092
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:38.079
<v Speaker 2>you not Honestly, I don't know. I'll call that a

1093
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.559
<v Speaker 2>jetfish moment. Yeah, how did you not see that? You

1094
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:41.840
<v Speaker 2>don't see what you don't see? Right?

1095
00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:43.719
<v Speaker 3>So, I mean, I don't know, but I was fortunate enough.

1096
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:46.440
<v Speaker 3>So then I went on. I played summer. I played

1097
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:49.800
<v Speaker 3>summer ball in the Northwoods League, and the coach from

1098
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Coaches College, Todd Engelhart, was like these coaches around and

1099
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:56.599
<v Speaker 3>I said, that's why I'm Southern Arizona kid, because all

1100
00:48:56.639 --> 00:49:00.679
<v Speaker 3>these people like help me out got me to in NORTHWOODSLEAG,

1101
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:02.760
<v Speaker 3>which is the second best college baseball league. Summer league

1102
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:05.000
<v Speaker 3>had an absolute blast. I was telling you earlier we

1103
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:06.800
<v Speaker 3>went on one time, we went on like a fourteen

1104
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.320
<v Speaker 3>or fifteen day road trip. You were asking what I packed,

1105
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:11.800
<v Speaker 3>and I said, the whole suitcase. What you had in

1106
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:14.360
<v Speaker 3>your yeah, exactly, like just hopefully that you can get

1107
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:17.920
<v Speaker 3>through that with you know, clean underwear and so. And

1108
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:20.320
<v Speaker 3>then from there, I you know, I had scholarships. I

1109
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:21.840
<v Speaker 3>actually had quite a bit of scholarships, so it was

1110
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:24.079
<v Speaker 3>very fortunate, and I chose to go to Metro State

1111
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:27.360
<v Speaker 3>and Denver. The visit was unbelievable. Where the location is,

1112
00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:29.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, forty thousand kids on campus downtown Denver.

1113
00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:30.440
<v Speaker 2>It was so great.

1114
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:32.360
<v Speaker 3>And then I got drafted by the new or comerats,

1115
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:35.639
<v Speaker 3>you know, and how what happened from that? Then I

1116
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:37.360
<v Speaker 3>played with them, I got you know, and then I

1117
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:39.519
<v Speaker 3>ended up having labor and surgery six years in and

1118
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:41.119
<v Speaker 3>I chose to go.

1119
00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:43.119
<v Speaker 2>Have you talked have you listened to us when we

1120
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:46.159
<v Speaker 2>had Andy Lopez? Yeah, of course I know Andrew He's yeah,

1121
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:48.239
<v Speaker 2>I know Andy very Those stories that he tells was fantastic.

1122
00:49:48.559 --> 00:49:51.360
<v Speaker 2>So you he talks about and he talks about the

1123
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:53.880
<v Speaker 2>people involved. I think he's had some like take a

1124
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:56.599
<v Speaker 2>fork in the road, right, Yeah, you're thankful, You're you're

1125
00:49:56.599 --> 00:49:59.360
<v Speaker 2>thankful for one dude, two dudes probably, well, one dude

1126
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:03.320
<v Speaker 2>that I just the stories. The dude who got arrested, Yeah, well.

1127
00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:06.320
<v Speaker 3>Too dudes, right, my Jeff Stanley, my dad's one of

1128
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:08.280
<v Speaker 3>my dad's close friends, because he got me if it

1129
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:11.000
<v Speaker 3>wasn't from him. I remember getting inducted to the Hall

1130
00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:13.199
<v Speaker 3>of Fame at Flord Walls and I didn't think my

1131
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:15.840
<v Speaker 3>high school coach, and I probably should have. That was

1132
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:18.719
<v Speaker 3>really I do regret that, but I mean, this guy

1133
00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:21.000
<v Speaker 3>is the one that gave me. Who was the dude

1134
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:22.960
<v Speaker 3>that got arrested? You don't have to biz, I don't, Yeah,

1135
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:24.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't. He was just a left hander. He was

1136
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:27.280
<v Speaker 3>from Safford, and I don't. I'm not going to say

1137
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:29.840
<v Speaker 3>what he got arrested for, but it was he definitely

1138
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:30.599
<v Speaker 3>should have been arrested.

1139
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:33.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, okay, serendipity.

1140
00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:36.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm fortunate enough that in the

1141
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:37.800
<v Speaker 3>right place, right time, I guess.

1142
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Right, right. So how long did you stay in the system?

1143
00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:45.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was six years? Really? So what you you

1144
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:48.719
<v Speaker 2>kind of you're living? You lived my dream of getting

1145
00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:50.559
<v Speaker 2>to play, you know, and come on, you you're a

1146
00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:53.320
<v Speaker 2>pretty good player. Blah blah blah. You got the circumstances,

1147
00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:56.599
<v Speaker 2>but it doesn't happen by accident either, although maybe he

1148
00:50:56.639 --> 00:50:59.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of did. Six years, there's no accident. Yeah, and

1149
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I I mean, you know, I was fortunate. Let's just say,

1150
00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:06.760
<v Speaker 2>what was your record eventually, like overall pitching record.

1151
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:09.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't look at stats. I don't want I mean

1152
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:11.760
<v Speaker 3>you can look that up. Don't look at seven. That

1153
00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:13.960
<v Speaker 3>was my that was my that was my I got

1154
00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:14.960
<v Speaker 3>hurt O seven.

1155
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Eight. I remember what you said about the haircuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1156
00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:21.519
<v Speaker 2>we don't want to look at the fast six years

1157
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:25.760
<v Speaker 2>of either faking it well or they liked they saw

1158
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:26.440
<v Speaker 2>something in you.

1159
00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:28.360
<v Speaker 3>So how far did you go? I had to double

1160
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:30.440
<v Speaker 3>a yeah, and then I mean that's when I tore

1161
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:32.000
<v Speaker 3>my labor. But I got to go to Hawaii and

1162
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:34.320
<v Speaker 3>play winter ball. And I mean it's funny my winter

1163
00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:36.039
<v Speaker 3>ball team. I think every single guy that played in

1164
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:37.559
<v Speaker 3>that league went to the big leagues in the next

1165
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:40.480
<v Speaker 3>two years. So you and you probably know some of them.

1166
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I mean the guys I played with Dreubuterra.

1167
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:45.199
<v Speaker 3>I mean you you know him, dextra Fowler. I mean

1168
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:46.679
<v Speaker 3>you've got huge names.

1169
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Did you at the time? At the time, you think

1170
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:51.320
<v Speaker 2>what am I doing here? And how cool is this?

1171
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1172
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:54.039
<v Speaker 3>And we got two days off a week. Oh no,

1173
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:56.559
<v Speaker 3>I was like lived the lights. It was the greatest

1174
00:51:56.719 --> 00:51:58.679
<v Speaker 3>like that, that was the greatest thing ever.

1175
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Goopy's chasing you. I don't know about that, Drew. I'm

1176
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:06.800
<v Speaker 2>writing this story. I've seen it. I've covered by the league. Basically,

1177
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:08.519
<v Speaker 2>you have to refresh my memory. I don't know what

1178
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:14.599
<v Speaker 2>group you. Sorry, I saw bulld Uh. There's some truth

1179
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:17.480
<v Speaker 2>to that. I wouldn't know, but I've heard, of course

1180
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:20.880
<v Speaker 2>there is. Okay, we've got time, We're really go. Yeah,

1181
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:23.719
<v Speaker 2>let's let's go. We'll get some breaking news from you, right,

1182
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:25.320
<v Speaker 2>and then we're gonna talk to men with anyone on

1183
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:25.800
<v Speaker 2>the other side.