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Speaker 1: Here's your hosts, Jesse sovi here and Victor Nuno.
Speaker 2: Fantasy Hockey Live once again. Jesse Severe Nuno of Daber Hockey,
Victor Nuno of McKean's and many places. How are you
doing today, buddy.
Speaker 3: They're awesome, Jesse. Yeah, good, good to be with you
again and excited for some more good discussion here. How
are you, my friend?
Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm good. Back in the saddle talking a
little bit of fantasy hockey prospect business, a little dynasty
business today, so we will. We will get to that.
But I don't know, Victor, are there any other things
on your mind? What's going on in California life? Are
you getting this cold snap that everybody else is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had some different weather. It's certainly not the
Snowmageddon or any of this. I saw a picture of
the airport in Toronto the other day that was bonkers. No,
we're not like that, but it was. It was colder
than usual. It was in the thirties for a good
part of the day, which is unusual for January and California.
But then it flipped today and it started raining and
warmed up. But all in all, I remember, I'm reminded
often of friends that I have, especially that play disc golf,
or do you like to do things outside that you
just can't do for four to five months out of
the year, and no matter how bad the weather is here,
I can do that pretty much if I just tolerate
a little bit of colder, wetness.
Speaker 1: So it's all ye.
Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with disc golf. I've never played it.
I did throw a frisbee once as a kid, but
I'm not familiar with the disc golf, and imagine the
frisbee is insulting to the disc golf community. But I
wonder if you come up and you play in below
zero conditions like here, maybe the disc would fly better.
Maybe you should try it like ten below like it
is here. Just go throw that disc, see what happens.
Speaker 1: I have played when I live in Michigan.
Speaker 3: I played with foot and a half of snow on
the ground and it was twenty five degrees. I will
play in any any weather, I'm not a fair weather
kind of disc golfer. In fact, I went on a
trip to Massachusetts a couple of years ago and it
was snowing and just bleak, and the family stayed in
the car and said, you're crazy, And I went out
and played. I will do it doesn't matter to me.
But yeah, it's a good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Victor, we should probably get to the mute.
So right after this, we're coming back to talk project. Today, Victor,
we're doing another Scalps tout. We're going to talk about
another few players that are coming up in dynasty hockey
leagues people ought to know about, and it's going to
start with Cole McKinney. He is a two way centerman
who was originally from Chicago. We drafted by the San
Jose Sharks, having a decent year moving up from the
national team development program to the NCAA University of Michigan.
He's in middle six minutes, scoring about half a point
per game. But unless you think that that means he's
not so good, Michigan is freaking loaded. I went, I
didn't realize how good Michigan has been this year. Best wins,
best record in the NCAAA at press time, thirteen wins,
three losses, two overtime wins. Pretty good. He also played
a depth role at the World Juniors for Team USA.
FHL scout Jeremy has this to say about Cole McKinney.
He is a average skater. There's nothing wrong with this skating,
but Jeremy doesn't see him to be a burner at
the NHL level. Passing and handley surprisingly good handles, not
going to wow you, but can make the easy play
whenever needed. McKinney has an above average shot, although Jeremy'd
like to see him take it more, averaging under two
shots per game at Michigan. The IQ, though, where Cole
McKinney shines both offensively and defensively, seems to be in
the right positions all the time. It does make the
rest of his game look a bit pedestrian. He rarely
has to make an impressive play. He keeps it simple.
Above average on the four check. A strong guy, but
not a physical one necessarily. Jeremy'd like to see him
throw around that six to three body a little bit
more pressure is closing down time and space is there. Defensively,
McKinney should be strong, should be able to take touch
matchups in penalty kill time. So the best asset was
that Hockey Iq plays a mature pro style game. Should
be a candidate for one of the quickest guys from
his class to earn a call up. The biggest concern
offensive upside, and Jeremy does see more than a forty
point player here got the makings of a good career
NHL or, but probably not top six. So the top
tier was middle six complimentary score like a two C
type role where he benefits from deployment with other Shark's
top prospects, but the median outcome something more like a
bottom six matchup center. He's got so great a defensive
mindset and effort he could find a home in a
bottom especially if he can hone his face off and
penalty kill skills. Stylistic comparable a less gifted Matty Beneers.
So look how that transition went and lower your expectations.
In the Mason Black NHL ranking Pole, he goes up
against Dimitri Buchelnikoff of the KHL right now and he's
scoring just fine over in the K and bachell Nikoff
wins the pole seventy two to twenty eight. He is McKinney,
that is, is crounced in this matchup, and keeping in
mind that jell On Nakoff is about three years further
down three and a half years further down the funnel
than McKinney is San Jos. He's been really drafting well lately. Actually,
if you look at their second round picks even he's
been very good. But I guess I'm wondering, Victor, is
Cole McKinney better than Dmitri Bukeilnikoff and will he become
a dynasty factor?
Speaker 3: I think that for the NHL team that they played for.
I think the Sharks will be happier with McKinney as
a center. He still profiles at the center. He did
take a really nice step this year and looks great
in Michigan. But like you said, everyone looks great right now,
so it's hard to say. But he looks like he
could be a serviceable bottom six piece for the Sharks,
and those types of players centers who can move the
puck and transition are pretty valuable. But I'm not sure
that he's going to be a better fantasy asset. Looking
at the two, it's really impressive what Pukonnikov has done,
especially he's a bit undersized at five ten one seventy.
He's now twenty two, and he's also he was extremely
young for that draft year when he was drafted in
twenty twenty two, and ever since then, he basically went
right into the KHL or played mostly against men for
years after that and has been pretty stellar in the KHL.
He's injured right now, so maybe that works in your
favor if you're trying to acquire him. But wingers often
it's easier for them to slide into the lineup than centers,
and so that might help him. But Detroit also has
a lot of other guys. Both of these guys I
have rated in the six which means just above average,
with bi Kollikoff having a little bit of a higher
percent of getting there six point four or five versus
six point two to one for McKinney and by. Kolakoff
has looked really good in a lot of transition data,
but some of his other underlying play driving metrics haven't
been as good. For a smaller guy, you like to
see his compete, his puck battles won and loose puck recovery.
That's all really good, but he doesn't really bash, so
you're not going to be getting a whole lot of that.
Not that McKinney does either, because he doesn't, but some
of his underlying play driving metrics have looked a.
Speaker 1: Little bit better.
Speaker 3: So between the two, I think that Mukolikoff is probably
the better fantasy asset and McKinney's probably the better real
life asset. Look at the hockey prospecting between the two,
it's still be Kolnikoff who graduated the model I think
it was last year and just twelve percent chance of
being a star, where it's six for McKinney. So you know,
both of these guys are probably not like major factors
in any deal. But if I had McKinny, I would
trade him for becol Lakoff straight up for a in
a fan league, as he has a little bit more
upside I.
Speaker 2: Think tremendous next to Victor Jager Fergus I was wondering
when we get back to this guy, the red haired
dynamo of the Seattle Kraken. He has effectively doubled his
scoring rate from year one to year two in the
AHL and at Press time, Fercus was leading the AHL
Coachella Valley Firebirds in scoring, and he's now listed at
five eleven, which seems pretty significant for a guy who
I remembered we talked about this guy like I swear,
like twenty times in the twenty twenty two draft year
when he went, because he's a favorite late pick, and
then he's been a little bit under the radar. It
feels like to me, we haven't talked a ton about him,
but I remember at the time the size concerns were
a big thing. Now in the episodes we talked about
he's still five to ten, So who knows if five
to eleven is just the generous measurement that you give
a pro athlete. But he has really improved. He's really
picking it up, and that has been the question whether
a slight fella is gonna be able to score at
the higher levels. It seems like he is. Austin Kelly
has this to say about Jagger Furcus of the Seattle Kraken,
and that is skating. Fercus is a strong skater with
good mobility and quickness. He is not a high end skater,
but moves well, especially while handling the puck that he
shows the most speed passing and handling, and pressed is
a highly effective playmaker. Does well generating offense, carrying the
puck in transition, does well activating building on the offense,
and good puck accuracy. For shooting, He's got a lightning
quick point shot that can release from just about anywhere.
The speed of Fercus's shot looks to be one of
the fastest in the AHL based on how quickly he
gets it off. Furcus also has an accurate slap shot
from distance and as a shooter does well anticipating where
to be to score. Fairly smart player who reads plays well,
and it's an area that could see him make the
NHL despite not being the biggest guy. Also makes some
good men awareness and good decisions with the puck. The
defense is a work in progress for Furcus, an undersized
winger lacks much of a physical edge while not having
much muscle to be able to throw his weight around.
Not the most mature defender yet may need to work
at least another year in the AHL to work on
that side of his game. So the best asset was
being a creative puck moving winner who does very well
at generating offense. As a finisher, consistently translated his ability
to be a point getter from the CHL to the AHL,
and the biggest concern undersized mostly focused on the offensive side.
That's going to be a question translating to a full
time NHL or concern of whether Focus is an NHL
or type prospect or a top end AHL guy. The
way Furcus play does not appear to be suitable for
a fourth line role, so is a depth option. It's
hard to see him succeed. A top tier outcome top
six forward, power play two possible fifty to sixty point guy,
and the justification because he can play those time minutes.
His highly effective shot playmaking IQ have translated well to
the pros and needs clear advanced creativity. The median outcome
middle six twenty five to thirty five point winger. That's
because he could slide in as the third line winger.
It's become a bit more top nine or bust than
top six or AHL in the past. Clear offensive tools
to succeed, but it depends on how much he can
add on the defensive end and work out clear comparison
with Braden point that you hear and not just because
they're both formerly of the Moose Jaw Warriors, but both
are creative, undersized forwards who can produce it as a
goal scorer or playmaker and have a strong hockey IQ.
He could potentially be a better value version of Points
Selwich if he can make the NHL on two and
he's up in the Mason Black NHL King Rank poll
against a Meal Hemy and a mel Heman. Mentioned again,
Emil has been coming back this month after the World Juniors.
Feel like his might be up a little bit just
from the attention that Finland got at World Junior's. It
was finally backing up where he was taken in the
first round in the NHL draft in twenty twenty four
and in rookie drafts. I know I took him. He's
also a more recent pick than Fercus. Maybe people are
remembering Jagger's first or his slow first year in the
A oh, if I didn't mention, Fercus won this poll
fifty five to forty five percent. So Fircus comes out ahead,
but maybe not as as ahead as I would have expected.
Is this the right call Fercus versus Hemming? Furcus over Heming?
And is this margin about what you expect? Victor?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would take Fercus here, and yes, we had
talked about him seemingly a million times, so that seems accurate.
The interesting thing about him is that we always liked him,
and yes he had the undersized thing, and he had
a really good shot. The thing is he's really evolved
since just being a bit of a one trick pony.
His creativity and playmaking has improved considerably, and after his
first AHL season last year, which was decent just a
little bit over a half point per game, so not
a terrible transition, showed some promise This year. He's been
pretty much at a point per game for Coachella Valley.
Surprise actually that he hasn't gotten a call up for
Seattle with as good as he's been and how much
they need a scorer and he can do that. So
I think that he might get a shot pretty soon.
And we always talk about the funnel, and he's really
close obviously being potentially called up in any moment. That's
something that you want to hear, especially if you're in
a competitive window. You want those guys on your team
that can just slide in right away if that fits
your window. I do think that Heming might have slightly
more upside if he puts it all together. What we've
seen from him has been decent his OHL time.
Speaker 1: He's also on a.
Speaker 3: Stacked team, that Barry Colts team that looks they look
like a pretty good team, and he's been really good
so far there. So I like to see that. And
he was fine at the World Juniors. He hasn't He's
not the kind of guy that is taking over a
tournament or anything like that, and so that's a little
bit important to know. But his shot is dangerous people respective.
I also saw a lot more playmaking from Hemming and
a lot more control and nuanced to his play. But
the thing is, like, both these guys are gonna the
coach is gonna want to see a little bit more
defensive effort in a little bit more two way play
to give them the opportunity, and both of them kind
of struggle with that. I think Fergus actually struggles more
than Heming does, and so that's something that he's really
going to have to work even more on.
Speaker 1: But he has been.
Speaker 3: He actually Fergus has developed more of a peripheral coverage
in the AHL, which is really suring to see. His
blocks and hits have been substantially better. Than they were
in junior. He's up to seventy six percent tile for
blocks and seventy second percentile for hits, which is pretty awesome.
Heming is also a pretty good basher. I think these
guys are pretty even, which makes sense the hockey prospecting
between the two, Furcus being a couple of years older.
He graduated the model at five percent chance of being
a star, and Hemming is right there at four percent
chance of being a star. So they're both lower end guys.
But I think Furcus is plus stock up because of
his recent AHL play, and I think that matters just
about more than anything in my book, especially when you're
still relatively young, and Fercus being still twenty one, he
won't her own twenty two until end of very end
of April, so I think this is a really good
feather in his cap, and I would not be surprised
if he made it onto the Kraken soon. It had
a bit of an impact because that's exactly the kind
of player that the kra can need.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I'm excited. If anything, it makes me
feel like Emil Heming is pretty good. I didn't really
expect him to be in the neighborhood of what Furcus
has become. There was a guy, Victor. This reminded me,
Furcus just keeps scoring and people don't necessarily want to
respect that. It's it's chievable higher levels. You remember a
guy named Chris Carter in football, Victor, You ever heard
of Chris Carter? Yeah, he was a Philadelphia Eagle back
in the eighties and was excellent. He scored a lot
for them, and he got just summarily released one day
and the coach said all he does is score touchdowns,
and he said it dismissively. Well, you know what, guy,
what is this? He just scores touchdowns? And then the
Minnesota Vikings picked him up and he went onto a
Hall of Fame career, three times leading in the NFL
in scoring touchdowns. Turns out that's a good thing. If
all Fercus does is score, then that might not be
so bad, especially parts fantasy people. Anyway, I don't know
where I went, but that's where I went. William Harcoff,
That's where I'm going to go. William Horcoff. He's not
only on that aforementioned an Arbert powerhouse. A lot of
Michigan talk today. By the way, He's also, unlike Kinney,
he's also among the leaders and teams scoring. Jayden parn
Michael Hage are up with him. They all, by the way,
trail an undrafted twenty four year old senior captain named t. J. Hughes.
Did you know the leader undrafted twenty four year old TJ.
Hughes is the leading scorer unless you wonder it's not
another Hughes just because he's in Michigan. This guy's from Ontario,
I believe. But anyway, all right, I'm way off on
a limb here. William Horcoff University of Michigan. That's where
we've been. He wrapped the US at the World Juniors
as well, and he was drafted last year in the
first round after Ben Kendall. Kyle Dubas shut the rest
of us up with Ben Kendall. So maybe we got
to start respecting what Pittsburgh's doing. It's they're not like
the old Penguins in terms of their drafting, which of
course was caused by the fact that they drafted late
a lot too. But Kauf was the second pick of
the first round this year and he's burning it up
at Michigan. Patrick has this to say, about William Horcoff
of the Penns an average level of skating, neither special
nor a liability. This is an area he could afford
to improve a little bit. Overall, the passing in hand
are okay, but not skills that really stand out. There
are times when his passing shows touch, but other times
it is off the mark. Will's fast and accurate from
mid range for shooting could pick corners when he has
a little time in close. He shows good hands and
confined holes. IQ generally in motion to be in good
position for a pass or a shot, and at times
is in the right place. At other times the play
goes by him. He does show poise in his play
with the engagement. Will is often in on the forour check. However,
in my viewings he had a low success rate in
by my I mean Patrick's in winning board battles. Horcoff
is committed to two hundred foot games, so he skates
back hard commits to his defensive assignment. The biggest asset
for Horcoff for the purposes of his likely future role
is that physicality and compete. The biggest concern the pucking
and lin of playmaking could use a lot of work.
The top tier outcome possibly middle six with power or
play too type of situation. That's because he has a
decent game, and Patrick thinks he can improve in a
few areas. He could get some line two time and
be an asset on the power play. But the media
outcomes probably bottom six. His game is sullid enough in
the aspects that are important for this role that there's
a lower level role at a high likelihood for Horcoff.
The stylistic comparison comparable. Let's go with Loss and Krause here.
He could be a scorer that as bash or a
third liner that scores. But Patrick notes that even though
the listed his center, he played a lot of wing
in the games that he watched. Long story short, We're
going to put him up in the NHL ranking poll
against Lyndon Lakovich of the Washington Capitals, and Horkoff comes
out ahead in this pole fifty nine to forty one percent. Appropriately,
we've got Pittsburgh versus Washington because that's apparently what always
is going to happen, and in fact, they were drafted
in the same round of the same draft. Lakovich went
three picks later than Horkoff did. Do you agree that
Horcoff is, by a margin of eighteen percent, the better
prospect of this duo.
Speaker 3: I do not agree with this poll, and I understand why.
Horcoff has had an incredible NCAA season and certainly has
put some doubt into some of the naysayers.
Speaker 1: I was certainly one.
Speaker 3: Of those that and I'd said at the time I
didn't really think he was much more than a bottom sixer,
and he has been pretty awesome at Michigan. But as
you said, the whole team is pretty awesome, and I
think you really have to consider that when you're looking
at some of these numbers, the team influence can be massive,
and you don't want to just go based on that.
I think if you switch positions between Horcoff and lack
Lackovich would be putting up even more points. Quite frankly,
I think he has more offensive upside right now. The
team that he's on hasn't. I don't think that they're
doing it. They're certainly not dumbing the league as miss
is in the NCAA right now. The Warriors are going
through a bit of it right now. They were a
really strong team and now a little bit less, and
so I think that's something that you have to think
about and keep in mind in the context of these
two players. I have the Musjah Warriors here fourth in
the Eastern Conference East Division, whereas a couple of seasons
ago they were they were thinking the Memorial Cup. I'm
trying to remember, they were one of the better teams
in the WHL, that's for sure. So definitely stocked down
for the whole team, which is affecting Lakovic, and so
you have to really consider that he has been He
has more scoring upside, though, I think than Horkoff is
the bottom line. He's a very creative player. You look
at some of his underlying stats too. Even just looking
at that, a lot of it is way better than Horcoff's,
from his transition data to puck battles one and the passing,
the creativity, the shooting, all of it's better. The only
thing that Horcoff really has as the bash is better.
But they're pretty similar ninety fifth percentile to eighty ninth percentile,
so it's not like it's that much different. Both these
guys are going to give you a strong Perferle floor,
which is great. It is probably true though, that Lakovich
is more likely to be a center, so that may
or may not hurt him. I could see both these
guys sliding into the wing, though I really don't think
Horkoff is a center, which might help him play a
little higher in the lineup when the time comes. So
they're similar. Lakovich has double the star potential and hockey
prospecting that Horcoff does, and that's after a huge increase
for Horcoff from three to seven percent and Lakovich being
roughly stagnant around fifteen percent. Yeah, I definitely Lakovich better here,
and I think a lot of people are just looking
at the high pnhale, which is based on his incredible
Michigan season. And the other thing to mention is that Horkoff.
Speaker 1: We talked about it before.
Speaker 3: But he's been He was one of the most disappointing
players on that team USA. They looked at him as
someone who could help really carry this team. He was
one of the top NCAA scorer. Then he just really
didn't do much in that whole tournament, and so that
was pretty disappointing to see that. But yeah, all in all,
for one, I trust Washington's drafting over Pittsburgh. They have
a much better track record over many years, and so
that is a feather and Lackovich has happened. I think
just the upside for each of these players. It's just
better for Lackovich.
Speaker 2: Well, if you like Washington's drafting, that's going to be
put to the test as well with this next one.
Andrew Kristaal who we loved going in the second round
last year, and of course Washington also got Cole Hudson
in the second round of a recent draft. Christal, though
destroyed the dub last year seventy two points in twenty
nine games for the Spokane Chiefs. I guess that's why
you get drafted. And for the Hershey Bears. Not bad
for the young man. He's twenty one now, by the way,
but twenty five points in thirty games in the a
very good for somebody just debuting there. NHL Fantasy Hockey
Life scout to Patrick is back to talk about Andrew Kristall.
The skating continues to improve for Christal. The form is
a lot better mechanically, with some signs of some old
skating quirks. He's still not on the fast He's still
not the fastest, but is able to break out on
the odd two on one finds himself with less time
in the AHL, but it is still adapt with his
handling and makes very intelligent in on target passes. Christall's
shooting he's still got a quality one timer and risk shot,
but he's not having as much success against better goalies
and will have to refine a shot further. Christal has
a high hockey IQ. However, it appears he's still adapting
to some of the aspects of the AHL. The pace
of play gives him less time to process. For checking,
active in the offensive zone, trying to keep trying to
chase that puck, get poke checks, keep the puck cycling
around the defense. Back checking signifies a better commitment to defense.
He gets back, he covers his man, so the best
asset that hockey IQ and the biggest concern. The overall
defensive game still needs some improvement. Even though he's showing
a commitment top tier outcome. Patrick thinks it could be
as high as line one power play one. He's shown
a commitment to improving the rest of his game. The
skill set remains and is serving himsel War in the AHL.
He can be very valuable for Washington. The media outcome
here is something more like middle six around powerplay two,
improved skating and points in the AHL point toward him
realistically being at least an NHL or in a lesser role,
even if his development stalls stylistic comparable. When Patrick scouted
Christal last time, he said Nick Gelers. This time he's
going to go toward Jake Gnsel, and Kristall goes up
against Alexander Darowski in this poll, who was also drafted.
I should say Kristall was drafted in twenty twenty three,
so he's had a couple of years to adjust here.
But Jorovsky was drafted last year, also early second round,
and he wins this pole quite handily, seventy to thirty percent.
Djerrovsky over Kristal, and Drovsky's over tearing it up in
the K which should probably even a little bit better
than the A. But I guess it surprises me. Maybe
we just haven't talked as much about Drovsky as I've
we talked about Kristal the year he was drafted, and
he's a little bit out of sight, out of mind
for me over in Russia this year. Has Kristal slipped?
Did the voter slipped or did Drovsky just slip by me,
Victor what's going on here?
Speaker 3: All of those things might be able to be true.
Speaker 2: Actually, let's just stipulate that I've slipped and then everything
else worked from there, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, that's a given, all right. Yeah. So
we have talked about Kristal for.
Speaker 3: A while and one of the things that I've been
most interested in watching him is how is he going
to adjust to the more competitive, bigger, faster, stronger hockey
in the AHL. And I think so far, so good.
He actually rely has done thirty two points. I think
you got to give him earn his cap for that
because there were a lot of people I was definitely
one going to work out at least points wise are good.
Some of his underlying numbers aren't so good. We have
incomplete data on his AHL times, so we see some
not of good numbers for net expected goals and fenwick,
but don't really have a lot of the other transition
or puck battle data.
Speaker 1: So hard to say exactly.
Speaker 3: But he is creating a lot of offense, he's generating
scoring chances, he's making a lot of good plays, and
his bash has actually been decent too, which a little
bit of a worry with Cristal that he was going
to just be a very perferal light kind of guy,
but he's been pretty good. Zerowski though, on the other hand,
this guy has just been pretty incredible from the moment
he stepped onto the ice this season. There were definitely
I don't think anyone necessarily saw this coming. I think
you saw some strong play in the NHL last year
and that's really all we had to go on, and
he was There were people thinking myself included that he
seemed like a pretty good later bet, but I don't
think anyone saw him being nearly a point per game
player in the KHL in his second draft plus one season,
So that is super impressive that he's doing it that young.
He's still eighteen and he's got thirty five points in
forty one games. And it's not just that, but you
look at his underlying numbers, and his play driving numbers
are incredible, especially when he carries in or out. That's
been really good. His puck battles one has been great.
He's got decent size at six', one a little light
at one sixty, three but he's very competitive on and
off the. Puck his play driving is insane at eighty six,
percent his net expected goals is super. High everything is
looking really great under the hood For, zarovski and that
makes you think that he can not only, continue but
maybe even push to be to do, more because, again
eighteen years old in THE. Khl So i'm gonna Say,
zorovski BUT i don't want it to sound Like i'm
unimpressed with What christal has, done BECAUSE i still.
Speaker 1: THINK i think he's proved a lot this.
Speaker 3: YEAR i think it's been a really big year for,
him AND i think the fact that he's showing that,
NO i can hang with these good, players and he
was also pretty impressive at camp at The capitol's, CAMP
i think there was a chance he was close to
making it. There but the team is just so good
THAT i guess they haven't been as good.
Speaker 1: As they were last.
Speaker 3: Year but the team's pretty, competitive so it's hard for
him to make it on the. Team but, Yeah i'm
going to Take, zorowski BUT i would actually like to
have either of these. Guys and it might be one
of those things too that if you're closer to being
if you're a competitive, team you might actually Want christaal
because he is going to BE nhl, ready or at
least get called up a little bit sooner Than, zarovski
and so that that's often an important factor in these.
Speaker 1: Things so he's.
Speaker 3: Under contract in THE khl until twenty twenty, seven so
he can't start until the twenty seven to twenty eight,
season so that might be a. Factor If zarowski fits
your competitive, window then CERTAINLY i would prefer, him but
that's several seasons from, now so you might, actually if
you're more, competitive you might trade him For, krystal which
wouldn't be Too.
Speaker 2: Yeah of, course he'll only when you're talking about he
could come out at twenty twenty, seven he'll be twenty
at that, time he's still that's going to be aggressive
to push him up to THE. Nhl but, yeah if
he continues to escalate at that, pace he is already
looking pretty darn. Good and some of these comps are, Amazing.
Victor let's go to the. Next Justin carboneau of The
Saint Louis. Blues this Was Saint louis's one bite at
The apple last. Year in the first four. Rounds he
was taken it nineteen in the first, round and Then
Saint louis they traded away everything after. That doesn't have
video game numbers in the queue like he did last,
year and we expect that in THE. Qum here's the
level of EXPECTATION i put on the. Queue this guy's
got forty five points and thirty one, games and SOMEHOW
i don't feel like that's enough for a guy who's
blown through THE. Qmghl MAYBE i just need to settle.
Down doesn't quite fit the stereotype of A blues. Draftee
you can correct me If i'm wrong, There but in
terms of, physicality that's not like The lee thing with.
Him it's he's plenty to. Of he should be a
contributor to the next really good Playoff blues, team but
he's more scoring.
Speaker 1: Playmaker type of.
Speaker 2: Guy Mike, MEYER fhl scout says this about justin Carbon
oonne's scouting. Report in the part That mike watched to
the Games mike, watch he showed functional pace but limited,
separation low inner slot. Access he remained involved throughout the
workload with a lot of touches per game and a
lot OF tom and, ice but lacked the burst consistently
beat defenders. Passing his touches were high but his ability
to convert them into dangerous plays dipped a little. Bit
handlin was clean but, conservative with fewer slat feeds and
more perimeter touches than. Usual for, shooting the shot volume
remained strong seven shots a, game but high danger chances.
Creator he was active but perimeter, heavy generating a little meaningful,
threat and THE iq anticipation was evident in the first two,
games but his offensive reads were more cautious than, usual
well forced fewer plays, inside lost seven pucks a, game
rarely cut into the slot for. Checking remained active with
twelve puck battles per, game but his win rate dropped
to thirty five, percent well below his season forty five
percent in the games That mike was. Watching defensive, habits
though held up well lots of, takeaways block, shots no panic,
penalties lines very well with his positive defensive metrics for the.
Season The HOCKEY, iq, then or the best, asset was
still his involvement with the touches per game and the
consistent defensive engagement even when the offense wasn't so, great
and the biggest concern inability to get inside generate meaningful
danger when he's not. Assertive his game becomes really perimeter.
Heavy top tier outcome here That mike Sees Justin carboneau
having is a LEGITIMATE Nhl top six complementary. Winger that's
because he maintains high involvement every, night produces offense through
timing and volume red than. Streakiness this aligns WITH Nhl
top six complimentary wingers who elevate play through, pace, retrievals and.
Reliability the median, outcome let's call it AN nhl middle six.
Winger that's because he's got strong, involvement but he lacks
a singular dynamic tool and the shot is effective but
not overpowering handling his clean but not, creative but his,
motor his, reads and his defensive habits make him a
SAFE nhl floor the stylistic. Comparable mike will Say Alex
killorn Or Tyler, bertuzzi and he, Yeah so those are
two guys That mike thinks this Su Justin carbonet could.
Resemble he goes up in THE nhl ranking poll Against Carter,
bear who is drafted six picks in front of him
by The Detroit Red. Wings Carter bear loses this. Matchup
Justin carboneau comes out of head sixty two to thirty eight.
Percent carboos Pass bear in this comp which isn't surprising
because Whenever Steve eiserman takes a non defenseman in the first,
round it turns out to be a pretty slow. Burn
in The detroit years, anyway there's but a lot of.
Them some of them, anyway have turned out to do.
Something but, Anyway Justin carboneau drafted. Later but is it
Correct victor that sixty two to thirty eight percent is
the right margin for him to win this?
Speaker 1: THING i think he has more.
Speaker 3: Upside he was definitely the player as the draft was
going on THAT i was just banging the table, Saying
who's going to Take Justin? Carboneau BECAUSE i think he
was a fringe top ten. Asset certainly in fantasy ranked much.
Higher but in real, life wingers who are speedy and
score and don't do anything but, score As jesse pointed
out Future hall Of, famer perhaps that is something that
coaches often struggle with and organizations because those are the
easiest thing to. Find skilled wingers who are maybe a
little undersized and aren't super. Tough so that's. Understandable i'm
actually writing About bear for the McKeen stockwatch and so
that may he may come up on a future. Episode
but he's actually someone THAT i would consider buying on
just in general because he had that injury last season
and that really affected him and he has just gotten back,
to WHAT i would, say playing like, himself and he
is a very, strong competitive type of. Player AND i
believe it was an achilles. Injury, yeah he tore his
right achilles back In march due To Escape.
Speaker 1: Blade scary.
Speaker 3: Injury those soft tissue, injuries especially with a with such
an important tendon like an, achilles takes a really long.
Time and even when you're, back you're not really fully.
Back you don't feel like. Yourself and SO i think
one thing to say is That Carter beear may be
someone that you are interested in acquiring because he maybe
hasn't lived up to his full potential. Yet and he
does bash a, lot and so that's something that you're
gonna love is the bash is huge and lots of,
hits lots of, shots maybe not as many. Blocks but
what's interesting about this is that the bash Between carboneau
And bear at least and these micro stats on The
Fantasy Hockey Life skater card are pretty similar and that's
Because carboneaux shoots a ton and he also blocks a fair,
amount which is surprising for a skilled forward as he,
is and so he ends up being similar To Carter.
Bear Although bear will certainly have more, Hits carboneau is
not really a. Hitter you pointed to the maybe not
being the most, physical AND i think that's. ACCURATE i
think The blues had one first round, pick and of
all the teams that had one pick after, ten twelve
or fifteen something like, that they were the ones who
hit it out of the park the. Most SO i
definitely Like. Carboneau the hockey prospecting is actually similar between the.
TWO i think part of that is the que gets
a little lowered because of the video game numbers that
can go up. There But he's at fourteen percent And
Carter bear's at twenty one, percent So bear is still
a little bit higher out of the. DUB i would
like prefer CAR i would Prefer carboneau. HERE i have
met a seven point four to. FOUR i Have carter
bar at a six point seven, Seven SO i just
think the upside is higher For. CARBONEAU i think that
he has a pretty good chance of hitting. It you're
right that the numbers have been a little bit less
impressive this. YEAR i think that part of that is team,
effect AND i think he's also it seems like he
got the message From Saint louis that they want him
to round out the rest of the. Game, yeah we
know you can, score what else can you. Do let's
look at the rest of your game and your off
put game and your defensive habits and all, that and
that has been. BETTER i think that will still never
be his strong, suit but that will be interesting to.
Follow so, YEAH i definitely agree here That carboneau is
the one that you. Want but put a plug in
For bear and maybe check in on there whoever manages,
them because he might be someone that you can get
for a discount based on his performance so far this.
Speaker 2: YEAR i like a, Discount. VICTOR i like a. Discount,
okay that is going to get us through our scout stout.
Players we're going to take a break and come back
with something completely.
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It religions do?
Speaker 3: It, okay you've.
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Speaker 2: Life next on our show right, Now, Victor i'm going
to do a little THING i call persons of. Interest,
victor these are persons of interest here at the trade.
DEADLINE I am going to talk about a couple of
players WHO i guess they're on my, mind either because
they've been involved IN aid talks That i've been involved,
with Or i'm just observing what's going on some of these.
Guys people will see, people how people react to. THIS
i just wanted to talk about some guys who maybe
are good, bye maybe good. Sell but, anyway the first
of these, Players Dougie. Hamilton it's time to just have
a little talk About Douggie. Hamilton he's been on my.
MIND i traded him away in a league last. Week
there'll be an upcoming episode Of tidy takes where you
might hear a little bit more on. That you AND, I,
victor we Love. Dougie we've always Loved dougie because he just.
Produces he doesn't necessarily even need the, minutes and he's
just been productive for years and. Years his power play
tom On ice is way down this year right because
Of Luke. Hughes he's on the worst scoring pace of
his career nineteen points in forty seven games right. Now
but the guy who traded For dougie for me pointed
out a couple of very interesting. Things one is It
i'll tell you the one that he pointed, out and
then there's a couple THAT i noticed that the one
he pointed. Out eleven of those nineteen points have come
in his last nine. Games he's on a consecutive nine
game scoring streak right. Now so it looks Like january
has been much kinder to him than the first part
of the year. Did he's not missing games, People Dougie.
Hamilton that's usually the rap on him is that he
misses a big section of the. SEASON i want to
jinx it because not like the season's over, here but
he's missed at least eighteen games in five of the
last seven. Seasons he's only missed five games this, year
so we could get a relatively Full dougy, season which
usually means good. Things he gets just enough bash to
compliment that scoring in the last thirty. Days as it
was pointed out to, me he's a top ten defenseman in,
tidy which given the overall arc Of Dougie hamilton's season
and frankly the overall arc Of New jersey, season that
surprised me to. SEE i guess a nine game scoring streak.
Speaker 1: Will do that for.
Speaker 2: You and there's also just the buzz in the background
that With New jersey kind of in trouble right, now
he could get. Traded. Obviously Luke, hughes AS i mentioned,
before is a big part of. This Luke hughes getting
the power Play tom AND i was being a future
as long as he doesn't get booed by The jersey,
fans is probably Making dougie a little more. Redundant Because
dougie's in there to provide the powerplay support and some
of those. Things one would imagine that if it was worked,
out AND i Think, HAMILTON i think he's got a
no trade. Clause i'm not entirely, Sure but, anyway it
would be difficult to get him, traded given the, contract
given the, age given the somewhat lack of production this.
Year but if he did get traded somewhere where he
got that big power play roll, BACK i have to
think that a Healthy Dougie hamilton would be even more
productive than he is right. Now SO i think That
hamilton is a sneaky buye for some. People and YET
i don't feel bad about trading him because the decline
could be, real and given the, AGE i was in
a rebuilding situation. Anyway so what do you, Think, victor
what's S Douggie? Hamilton is he a person of interest
to you in one way or another right? Now and
what do you think about?
Speaker 1: Him you're right that we've always Loved.
Speaker 3: DOUGIE i love defenseman like him who don't need the
power play to be. Productive AND i think that's a
good point, here because he doesn't necessarily need. That so
if he goes somewhere, else if he gets, traded you
want to make sure that all his production isn't gonna dry.
Up if he goes to a team where someone else
is running the power play and he's not gonna get
any sniff of. It and that's the thing is that
it doesn't matter With, dougie like he's gonna get his
production regardless of whether he's on the power. Play so
far this season he has ten power play. Points he
had seasons where he was in double digits. Consistently he
had a twenty eight power play points season that was
by far as. HIGH i think he's been in a
bit of a lull the last few, seasons especially With
luke ques getting more and more of a role in.
Tumonemach but it's not necessary for. Him he's a really
good even strength, producer and looking at some of his
underlying numbers is pretty. INTERESTING i know he was aligned
for a while, there but he is the number one
defenseman On New jersey right now in terms of expected goal,
differential which some people might not. Realize Brendon dillon also really.
Good Luke hughes actually is the, worst and so that's
a whole other conversation what they're gonna do with. Him
it seems if they really want to be competitive and
if they think they're going to make the, playoffs it
seems like they should Keep, dougie and especially With hughes's
injury right, now BUT i don't know what's going to happen.
There BUT i agree with YOU i Have he's definitely
an interest to me BECAUSE i have him in a few,
leagues and the league are common league Where i'm in
the playoffs right. Now he picked up perfect time to
start to be relevant and good again BECAUSE i definitely
need him there even Though i'm the number two. Seed
you never really know what's going to happen in the,
playoffs SO i need him to do, that AND i
feel confident AND i WOULD i personally would not want
to trade. HIM i THINK i would rather acquire, him
OR i would rather keep him if you're in a competitive,
window just because his underlying, numbers AS i, said look.
Good his defensive metrics have been better Than i've ever
seen in his whole. Career this, year his offensive metrics
have been well above, average but getting a bit.
Speaker 1: Unlucky in terms of.
Speaker 3: THAT i think the whole team has been a little
maligned except for the more recent streak as you. Mentioned so,
Yeah i'm definitely interested In dougie AND i love the
play driving and like you mentioned In, tidy he's been
one of the best. Defensemen SO i think he probably
gets a little even or maybe slightly stocked down if
he goes to a more competitive. Team BUT i think
it's a good idea to acquire. Him it's, not AS
i mentioned other, defensemen where you go to a new
team and then all of a sudden you get more
of a depth role than you don't get to run
the power, play and your whole production goes. DOWN i
think that's not going to be as likely For.
Speaker 1: Hamilton, yes, sir, yes.
Speaker 2: Sir the next, fella and this is a little bit
out of character for the other. One some of these
other guys are having potentially sneaky good. Seasons this guy
is having an unsneaky bad, season and so he's a
bit more of a by low. Potentially Kent johnson HOPING
i can transact a trade Involving Kent johnson before this,
airs because then the it'll ruin. It IF i, don't
the price will go up ten. Times i've been looking
At kent all, year mostly because his coach wasn't or
at least not. Favorably Dean evanson was down to playing
him under ten minutes a game on. Occasion Rick bonas
of course come Into, columbus and he's been a bit more.
Forgiving he's tried to Use Kent johnson a bit. More
johnson is not heated up yet by any, means But
i'm a little bit more optimistic he. Can he's just
not scoring this. Year he's back closer to the power
play tom On ice he had early in the, year
which is a good. Sign give him the opportunity to
play with some of those bigger players In, columbus and
Obviously columbus is in a rebuilding, mode so they should
give him another. Chance they should keep trying to make
their young guys. Work this is whether it's For columbus
or even for whether it's your fantasy Team columbus or
somebody That columbus trades him. To this is a second
draft bi low type. GUY i feel like his weak
tidy points are not going to help a winning team this. Year,
yeah he's got like two points something points in, tidy
and anybody who's playing tidy knows you better at least
see a four at the beginning of that number if
he's going to be a regular. Contributor otherwise he's riding
down there and you're holding on to him against the
competitive aspirations of your. TEAM i dare say you could
get one hundred and fifty percent of his scoring just
from the waiver wire. Alone if you can get him
from a team that's really trying to compete now and
give him somebody who's a little bit, older who's producing,
Now Kent johnson's value may be suppressed enough by his
just garbage season that you could pull it. OFF i don't, Know,
victor is your interest In Kent johnson flagging That Michigan
wolverine who's Somehow maybe he's just depressed having to be
In ohio state territory as A Michigan wolverine and it'll
never he'll never get over. It but what are you
thinking About Kent johnson these?
Speaker 3: DAYS i must SAY i don't really think About Ken
johnson very. Much he hasn't really warranted me thinking about.
Him he did have that strong season last, year AND
i did write about him previously talking about how he
had so much, skill and he's definitely this kind of
guy who you want to have interest in because he
certainly has the potential to be a near point per game.
Player sixty nine point pace last season was pretty. GREAT
i think a lot of people were hoping he could replicate.
That there were definitely some high percentages there that we
weren't sure we're going to necessarily, continue but there was
some like the high secondary as sistraate that. Season on
the other, hand right, now you just have to look
at what he's doing right, now and he Has he's
eighth percentile for offense.
Speaker 1: In the ENTIRE. Nhl that's.
Speaker 3: Awful, defensively he's actually been better closer to, average which
he wasn't so good defensively. Before but just looking at
his expected GOALS p sixty In columbus right, now he
is literally the. Worst the guys that he's worse Than Isaac,
Lunderstrom Brendan, Gone, Sack Aston, Reese Danton. Heinen come, on
these names are not guys you should be associated. With
do you think you're a? Scorer SO i still think
That Ken johnson has. Talent, certainly that's not like it.
Evaporates it might just be a confidence saying maybe he
needs to be coached. DIFFERENTLY i don't. Know he's at
two hundred and forty EIGHT nhl games. Played he should
be what he is right. NOW i think that IF
i were a rebuilding team AND i wanted to take
a chance on rostering him while he figures it out
over the next year and a. Half THAT i think
THAT i would be okay with, that BUT i wouldn't
be selling off a premium asset to get. Him So
i'm pretty low On Ken. JOHNSON i think THAT i
wouldn't be surprised if he got back to a sixty
five ish point pace in the, future But i'm not
willing to throw down a huge asset to get, him
if that makes.
Speaker 2: Sense, yeah, okay that's so much for that next, Guy.
Victor AND i don't know if some of you are
just listening to redraft podcasts a lot in addition to
this to compliment and. Offset so some of these guys
who are really, hot just other people may be paying
attention to. Me i'm playing the dynasty. Game i'm not
really looking at day to day. Results i'm trying to
build for the long, term So i'm not necessarily watching
the day to. Day But ryan, O'Reilly this is what
old man's strength looks, like. Folks Ryan O'Reilly's bumping up
against point per game scoring this, year the only other
year of his seventeen seasons in THE nhl he scored
like that was in THE covid shortened year that he
was basically in a point per game pace at thirty
four as he is right. Now he might still get
a few years of a production, in but he would
be a piece who is the right guy to sell
high to a win now team and a trade away
from a. Rebuilder this is exactly the type of GUY
i think you're trying to move at this time of
year and should be changing teams to help somebody in
a championship. Run in, O'Reilly nashville has been getting hot,
again which is not SOMETHING i expected to. Say or
they've been more respectable lately than it looked like they
were going to be earlier this SEASON i. Could i'm
not bringing Up Steven stampcos as a separate man of
person of interest, today But ryan O'Reilly is somebody who
has my attention right. Now, victor what do you think
Of ryan O'Reilly In dynasty right? Now and is he
a guy who you would be willing to pay the
price for and a win now?
Speaker 1: Build?
Speaker 3: Yeah WHAT i think about him is very confusing because
this hasn't really. Happened as you, mentioned this is not
really his mo usually he's a sixty to seventy ish
kind of point. Guy even in his best seasons before
this was a seventy seven point pace a bit of an.
Outlier there are some things that are some red flags.
Here he's shooting almost double his career, average so that's
important to. Note he does have a the rest of
his numbers actually point to maybe deserving a little bit.
More HIS pdo is slightly, high his some of his points,
participations especially on the power, play are a little bit.
High but then he also has a really low secondary
assist rate and has some other indicators that that maybe
this is. Sustainable the whole thing just feels unsustainable, Though
and what's really interesting is That Ryan orroiley usually thought
of as a very strong defensive, center two way kind of.
Guy his defensive metrics have been awful this. Season maybe
he is just phoning it in for, OFFENSE i don't,
know but he's sixteenth percentile for, defense which is just
because as WHEN i watch him, TOO i don't really
get that sense, either and.
Speaker 1: He's never really been that.
Speaker 3: Guy but he's eighty seven percentile for offense and not good,
defensively and even on The predators he's middle of the
pack for corsi against his net expected. Goals he's middle,
high middle of the, Pack so it's weird how he
is impacting the team and definitely scoring a. Lot i'm
just a little confused because this doesn't really fit his
mo and some of these numbers seem a little. Wonky
all that being, SAID i think he is the kind
of guy you would want to. Acquire the team has
a lot to play. For they're sniffing around the playoffs.
STILL i think there definitely could still be some movement in.
There four points out as the time of this, recording
so anything's. Possible but it sounds like they'll still be
pushing towards the playoff spot and he will be an
important part of. That and it seems like they've gotten
more scoring. Going so, yeah he's someone that if you're
a winning out team probably would be interested, in and
especially if you count perperal, stats especially if you count face.
Speaker 1: Off within and that's a no brainer because he's really
good at.
Speaker 3: That his hits haven't been as, good but he blocks
a decent amount for, forwards so that part's pretty. Decent
it's really the face offs where he's a really important.
Factor there so, Yeah Ryan, riley, confusing but probably a
good guy to target if you're a win now.
Speaker 2: Team hey, MAN i don't mind. Confusing confusing makes the
world go. Round next, up we've got Brock. Faber victor
Brock faber is somebody WHO i did not expect to
be talking about In. JANUARY i remember when he came.
Up he was he had just a fabulous rookie, season
AND i think we even talked about him at the.
Time AND i don't want to misquote you, here BUT
i thought that what we talked about was he was
going to be more important in real life than fantasy
over the long, term and very. Much look in the
last couple of, years like that's where it was going
twenty Five tom on, ice plenty of, blocks plenty of
what you get when you're just on the ice that,
long but not your. Score and then on top of,
that Then Quinn hughes goes. There And Quinn hughes has
been just. Fine he's been scoring like. Gangbusters but Brock,
faber he's doing real well. Too he has been racking
up fantasy. Stats if you haven't noticed eleven points in
Twelve january, games it might be as much an indicator
of what happens when you're on the ice for the
red hot Wild the puck might bounce off you and
suddenly you get a second assist because they discore a.
Lot but knowing that Brock faber can score like this
and be actually one of the top scorers In tidy
for the last, MONTH i think he's at least top.
Twenty that he can do that With Quinn hughes's playing
man advantage in Brock fabor not just tells me that
there's a chance That faber could make a difference In
dynasty playoffs this, year and therefore might be somebody others
are thinking long, Term, nah this is not going to
be a, guy and yeah you can't might not be
a sustainable hot streak. Forever but my, goodness something's happening
here right, Now. Victor is there any way that you
would up your bid a little bit on Brock faber
just given the outstanding run that he is, On or
are you going to or are you somebody thinks this
is not going to. Last this Is Quinn. Hughes Brock
faber is not going to. Score let's not get overboard
because you're gonna have to pay a premium with the
young age next to his.
Speaker 3: Name interesting, questions AND i think you did characterize my
position pretty. ACCURATELY i always thought of him as a
better real life player than fantasy. Asset he was a
really strong play driver and defensive sort of, player and
so that was always something that we thought of. Him and,
yeah that first season did seem like a bit of an.
OUTLIER i didn't think we'd see him regress so hard
the following season to just a thirty point pace player
and then rebound all the way back up to over
like he's pacing right now for a career high forty
nine point. PACE i think what's, interesting, too is that
his defensive metrics this season have been very, muted their
average forty ninth percentile for. Defense what's crazy is his
expected offense is. Insane he's a ninety second percentile offensive,
driver which just doesn't really make sense with the narrative
and what you think of. Him and even on the
wild his expected goal differential is right Behind Quinn hughes really,
good but his corsi against is one of the worst
on the, team which doesn't really make, sense and his
expected goals against per sixty is also average to below,
Average so none of this really makes.
Speaker 1: Sense With.
Speaker 3: Fabor you mentioned him pairing With, hughes and that is
a pretty dynamic, pairing but his production actually Preceded, hughes
and a lot of people thought Once hughes gets, here
he's not gonna be able to score as, much not
going to keep it.
Speaker 1: Up but he, has and so that's.
Speaker 3: WEIRD i definitely still think of him more AS i
don't think on your fantasy team you Want Brock favor
to be your number one defenseman or even your number.
Two as a three, four depending on how many slots you,
have that could be very. Valuable and that's HOW i
have him on a couple of teams right, now and
he's killing it and exceeding.
Speaker 1: Expectations SO i like. THAT i think it will.
Speaker 3: CONTINUE i Think minnesota is clearly showing that one of
the best teams in the league right, now and a
lot of it comes from that back end.
Speaker 1: And him playing With, hughes he's gonna just look into.
Speaker 3: Points but also you see them kind of trading off chances,
Too like it isn't All. Hughes Sometimes favor will jump
up and he's been pretty productive and is not really
entirely based On hughes being. THERE i think that it's
really interesting that he's been able to re establish himself
as a as an offensive, player AND i would have
interested with.
Speaker 1: HIM i was just looking up on hockey.
Speaker 3: Viz The with Or Without you With faber and With Quinn,
hughes because that's a lot of the narrative and essentially
it's right smack in the, middle meaning it's not really
helping that. Much in, fact Without hughes he's slightly, worse
But i'm not sure it's really significant at. All so,
basically according to a lot of these, metrics the impact
of playing With hughes hasn't really Affected favor's, value and
he was pretty strong before.
Speaker 1: That so if you.
Speaker 3: Believe all, that and if you believe it will, CONTINUE
i think at worst it's not going to hurt, him
and most likely it's going to help him more than
it has. Already so, YEAH i am, also AS i mentioned,
previously confused a little bit about this, one just based
on what we saw originally and then last season and
then now this. Season it just seems like a bit
of a rollercoaster And i'm not sure exactly what to
think Of. Favor BUT i think one thing's for sure
is he's going to continue to get big. Minutes he's
going to continue to get. Opportunities he's going to play
with some of the best players On, minnesota And i'd
be interested in certainly in having him and probably in
acquiring him, too as long AS i have some other
top end defenseman in front of. HIM i don't want
him to be my number one or number, two but beyond,
that he could provide you tremendous.
Speaker 1: Depths so, Yeah i'm pretty into Brock.
Speaker 2: Favor like every crime proced dural you've ever, Watched, victor
persons of interest are supposed to confuse you a little.
Bit we'll, see we'll see who done it in the.
End the last one of these persons of INTEREST i
wanted to bring up to You Victor Josh. MANSON i
listened a couple months. AGO i don't know if you
listened To Dimitri philipovitch and THE pdo. Cast they like
had half an episode just dedicated To Josh manson and
how much they enjoyed the way he played out there
because he does fun things on the. Ice he bashes
like a, madman which we love around. Here still in
line for one of his best scoring seasons this. Year
he plays out there Beside Brent, burns which probably is
a somewhat offensive. Role that's a good. Thing entertainment, points
fantasy points could make him a nice deep, target and
of course you just never. KNOW a lower down defenseman
on The Colorado avalanche is a suspicious factor because you
know that there Are There's Sam, gerard There's kill. Mccarr
there's a lot of defensemen making that thing. Happen the
guy who really hasn't had an amazing offensive years since
he was In anaheim years. Ago to do, this is
it sustainable or? Not BUT i don't know why. Not
at this point he's having an excellent. Season he might
be a good win now guy because he's that middle
age later middle age when people might be starting to
try to sell on. Him what do you think About
Josh Manson?
Speaker 3: Victor, YEAH i remember after The cup that they had
there was a lot of discourse, Around, wow he's just
he's really, struggled and he. Did he was had some
rough times in, there but it seems like he's figured
settled into his role a little bit more.
Speaker 1: And he's been.
Speaker 3: AWESOME i was looking at his numbers right, now he's
ninetieth percentile overall and hockey involving, hockey eighty ninth percentile for,
defense and ninety second percentile for, offense which just doesn't
really make. Sense he's points, wise he's a little bit
better than his career, average but he's been in that
thirty ish point. Range he's a little bit above that right,
now four. Points but he's not someone that you really
expect to do that, much although his numbers would suggest.
Otherwise maybe we should be expecting more from him. OFFENSIVELY
i don't. Know looking at the, numbers he does have
a lot of expected goals four and, actually really these
numbers are just confusing all Around jesse because the expected
goals four for sixty for defenseman on The carler avalanche
kill mccarr is number, six which just doesn't make any
sense at. All maybe it's just one of those things
where the metrics don't track the things that he do
because he's just a freak and can create offense out of.
Nothing that's the narrative That i'm going to tell myself
because it Has Sam, Lensky Devontaeve's Brent, Burns JACK. A
khan And Josh manson just ahead Of kill, mccarr which is.
Hilarious but one thing that is interesting is that the
defensive metrics are out of this world For Josh. Manson
his corsi against is incredible at negative two point, five
four best on the team by, far one of the
best in the, league and his net ex to goal
differential is incredible as, well right there With Sam, lensky
who offers a little bit more. Offense, Yeah i'm definitely Into.
Manson his, periffs as you, mentioned are just outstanding as.
Well he's encroaching on three hits per, game which is just,
bananas and his blocks are really good as, well closer
to one point. Five he doesn't shoot that. Much you'll
tolerate that based on his strong other. Periffs and he's
on the best team in the, league so he's going
to look into assist every now and, then even if
he doesn't provide raven if he doesn't necessarily deserve it
or create it as. Much, YEAH i think that there's
a good reason to be Into Josh. Manson he's a
perfect win now trade target, too because he's a little bit.
Older how much longer is he going to? Play how
much longer he's going to play at this, LEVEL i
think is an important question that we don't. Know BUT
i think there's a lot to be said for guys
who just fits super well in a, system and he
fits really well in this. SYSTEM cad is an awesome,
team and you're not getting kill mccarr unless you're sending
the most amazing. Assets But Josh manson could be a
really important, piece a depth piece for your, team AND
i think it's a great.
Speaker 2: Target, jesse, Tremendous. Victor that's all the persons of INTEREST i.
Had do you have anything else to tell the people before.
Speaker 1: We get out of here?
Speaker 3: Today, no just keep listening and let us know if
there's anything different you want us to. Do we're only
a few months away from team, previews which always is
something to think. About but, yeah we'll obviously be continuing
to do what we're doing here as we get closer
to the trade deadline and making sure we discuss a
lot of Important dynasty.
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