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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to my Family Think Some

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy podcast. And with me today is a returning guest,

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of mine, someone who I think the audience

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<v Speaker 1>should already be aware of. He's doing some amazing work

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<v Speaker 1>and he's coming back to the show to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new project, a new film that is out

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<v Speaker 1>now is titled A Clockwork Shining. Rider Lee is back

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. Rider. It's a pleasure to have you

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<v Speaker 1>here again. I'm really stoked to see. You've been working

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<v Speaker 1>with Jay Weidner, legend in the conspiracy theory field, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You have.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of cool stuff going on, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>your latest project. So before we get into the exact

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<v Speaker 1>details of the film, what precipitated A Clockwork Shining? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>where were you when you thought, Okay, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>I need to work on next, Because I've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've been interviewing you at each step of

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<v Speaker 1>the way. I remember we talked about UFOs. At one point,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about mk Ultra. I can't remember the last

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<v Speaker 1>thing we talked about. Excuse me, but now we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Kubrick and some other maybe stranger things. And no

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<v Speaker 1>pun intended that Kubrick was trying to show us through

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<v Speaker 1>several of his movies and two in particular, that folks

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<v Speaker 1>can probably guess which ones they are based on the

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<v Speaker 1>tip I love your film, but or your documentary. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what precipitated the Clockwork Shining? Because I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>a really interesting trajectory you've been on.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much, Mark, first off for having me

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<v Speaker 3>on again. I really appreciate it. And you have been

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<v Speaker 3>there every step of the way through my entire evolution

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<v Speaker 3>of new things. You've had me on, So I really

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate that, my friend. It's an honor and a privilege

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<v Speaker 3>to be back on your show again. So and I

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<v Speaker 3>think you had me on for jfk X.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's what it was. Yes, that was the last

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<v Speaker 1>time you're on, I believe, unless there's something in between

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<v Speaker 1>then and now. JFKX is the one I was misremembering.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that was the first documentary that me and

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<v Speaker 3>Jay Warden put together. And originally how the soul really

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<v Speaker 3>came up about was this was the first movie that

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<v Speaker 3>I actually wanted to do. I wanted to do this

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<v Speaker 3>movie A Clockwork Shining first, but we decided to go

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<v Speaker 3>with AFKX first, and because this one was going to

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<v Speaker 3>require a lot more production value and quality in it,

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<v Speaker 3>so we did jfk X first. And you can also

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<v Speaker 3>find that on Amazon Prime. It's on free v on

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<v Speaker 3>Amazon Prime. Actually, if you just type in the Clockwork

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<v Speaker 3>Shining and click a Clockwork Shining on Amazon Prime, it'll

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<v Speaker 3>be the next video in under related videos. So I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to do this film originally, and I'd had Jay

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<v Speaker 3>Widener on because he had done two documentaries before. Well

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<v Speaker 3>he's done several films before a lot of other films.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a you know, a he's a film production like

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<v Speaker 3>that's what he'd done for his whole career. And I'd

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<v Speaker 3>watched his two movies, A Cubric's Odyssey one and A

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<v Speaker 3>kubricks Odyssey two to bring him on my show to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, have a good in depth conversation with him,

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<v Speaker 3>because I like, you know, watching people's movies or reading

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<v Speaker 3>their books or whatever it is before I bring them

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<v Speaker 3>on so that I can ask really good questions. And

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<v Speaker 3>I had him. I had him on. So I watched

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<v Speaker 3>The Shining several times over and over again, and as

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<v Speaker 3>I'm watching it, because Kubrick is such a genius, with

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<v Speaker 3>this filmmaking. Everyone knows that everyone knows who Stanley kuber Case,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone knows what The Shining is is one of the

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<v Speaker 3>greatest horror films that's of all time, you know. And

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<v Speaker 3>as I was watching it, I was like, what more

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<v Speaker 3>can I really find in this movie that hasn't been

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<v Speaker 3>seen before? Because this movie has been deconstructed in like

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<v Speaker 3>such a way that it's there's so many different theories

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<v Speaker 3>about The Shining and about Stanley Kubrick just in general,

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<v Speaker 3>sort of exactly like the jfk assassination, which was the

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<v Speaker 3>one that we tackled previously. So this was a really

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<v Speaker 3>big task. And I'm sitting there and I'm watching it,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I watched some videos on some other people's

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<v Speaker 3>analysis of it, and I, you know, watched our Room

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<v Speaker 3>two thirty seven as well. Was j wier is also

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<v Speaker 3>in Room two thirty seven, which we also reference in

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<v Speaker 3>this new film, a clockwork chiny and I'd seen in

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<v Speaker 3>on the back left hand side. This has monarch at

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom of the poster. And I wasn't the first

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<v Speaker 3>person to see that, I admit not the first person

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<v Speaker 3>to see it, but nobody got what that poster actually

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<v Speaker 3>meant correctly. And when I brought Jay on my show,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, hey, like, I know people have seen

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<v Speaker 3>this several times before. There's a poster in the background

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<v Speaker 3>that has Monarch at the very bottom of it looks

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<v Speaker 3>like like a person on skis, and some people call

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<v Speaker 3>it a minotaur and they kind of relate the It's

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<v Speaker 3>one of two things with people that see that poster

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<v Speaker 3>and try and interpret its meaning. One of those is

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<v Speaker 3>that it's a minotaur. Another one is that it's a

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<v Speaker 3>cubric like the Cubrick Stare, you know, like in a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of his movies, like Full Metal Jacket, a Clockwork

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<v Speaker 3>Orange and the Shining, that Cubic stare that famous thing

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<v Speaker 3>like like that, you know what I mean, like the

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<v Speaker 3>Jack Nicholson does during the Shining and Alex's character does

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<v Speaker 3>during a Clockwork Orange. And also that it could be

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<v Speaker 3>referring to Monarch Mountain in Colorado as well. But I'd

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<v Speaker 3>never heard of anybody relate the poster to Monarch MK

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<v Speaker 3>Ultra Mind Control. So I'm explaining this all to Jay

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<v Speaker 3>around two years ago now, on our show, and I'm like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a poster back there says Monarch. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>no one has ever come up with the ever talked

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<v Speaker 3>about the theory that about monarch mind control. They bring

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<v Speaker 3>other things into it, like I just mentioned, but they've

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<v Speaker 3>never mentioned. And then I started dissecting the movie and

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<v Speaker 3>all the things throughout the movie, and I was like, Jay,

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<v Speaker 3>we need to make a documentary about this. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm the first person to really understand exactly what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on within this movie. And he was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we should. We definitely should. And then we ended up

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<v Speaker 3>with JFKX as our first film, which I'm very happy

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<v Speaker 3>that we did it that way because I got to

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<v Speaker 3>cut my teeth on a documentary. And then I did

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<v Speaker 3>this one, which this one is almost two hours long.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a a cl accident around an hour and fifty minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's basically the origin, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And to be clear, the film that you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>is The Shining because the Clockwork Orange film, there's really

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like subtle in any way that mind control

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<v Speaker 1>is going on, like that's a key plot in the film,

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<v Speaker 1>but connecting the symbolism from there to the Shining, I

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<v Speaker 1>think is a big step. And yeah, I mean potentially

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<v Speaker 1>you're the first person to see that, you're definitely the

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<v Speaker 1>first person to make a film about it. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing with Kubrick that I wonder, is is it

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<v Speaker 1>that he saw this and has left these clues behind

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<v Speaker 1>for people. I mean, it seems to be that way,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, it couldn't be that he was just

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<v Speaker 1>some like lucky fool who just happened to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>spell all this out by accident. But then I also wonder, like,

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<v Speaker 1>to them. That almost feels like, you know, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to debunk it at that point, which I'm not,

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<v Speaker 1>because the Shining, I think Room two thirty seven, they

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<v Speaker 1>go into the theory that they're somehow suggestions about the

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<v Speaker 1>moon landing with the Shining, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's Jay Widener's original proposal with his first two

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<v Speaker 3>films on the topic. He proposes that the Shining is

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<v Speaker 3>Kubrick's confession to faking the moon landing, which he provides

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<v Speaker 3>well invcating the evidence of that and what I've been

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<v Speaker 3>telling people, which I think is very plausible because two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand and one A Space Odyssey was being shot during

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<v Speaker 3>the time of the moon landing, during the time that

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<v Speaker 3>we went to the moon, right, and it's highly possible

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<v Speaker 3>that Stanley Kubrick would have been like, Hey, let's shoot

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<v Speaker 3>some scenes, you know, and the actors wouldn't know that

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<v Speaker 3>this was going to the footage was going to be

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<v Speaker 3>because a lot of people are like, well, how could

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<v Speaker 3>they have faked the moon landing without a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people knowing about it. Well, that's how they would have

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<v Speaker 3>done it. They would have done it a part of

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<v Speaker 3>a movie shoot, and two thousand and one of Space

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<v Speaker 3>Odyssey was using special effects that had never been seen before.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of the first times in film history that

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<v Speaker 3>front screen projection was ever used. And it's possible that

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<v Speaker 3>Kubrick was like, Hey, let's do we'll shoot some extra

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<v Speaker 3>scenes for two thousand and one A Space Odyssey. All

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<v Speaker 3>the actors, all the production, all the people will think

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<v Speaker 3>that it's for two thousand and one A Space Odyssey,

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<v Speaker 3>but we won't put it in the film, and then

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<v Speaker 3>that'll be the moon landing footage, not saying that that's fact, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think that it's really interesting and it's definitely plausible.

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<v Speaker 3>But as far as the mind control stuff, Kubrick had

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<v Speaker 3>to have been aware of the CIA's MK Ultra programs,

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<v Speaker 3>just based upon the fact that he made a clockwork orange, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the entire film is basically about mind control

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<v Speaker 3>and drugging Alex the main character, and having him watch

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<v Speaker 3>these movies to influence his behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so in a way, if The Shining has both

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<v Speaker 1>layers in it, I don't see how that's necessarily impossible. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Kubrick could have been talking about the moon

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<v Speaker 1>landing and m Kaltre, which is why I find this

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<v Speaker 1>premise really fascinating. I'm glad to get into it with you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just wanted to say off the bat for

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<v Speaker 1>people who might be like, oh, they've done this already,

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<v Speaker 1>go watch Room two thirty seven. Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Widner is a part of this film, so cut

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<v Speaker 1>it out. And second of all, Kubrick, I mean again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just applying my own mind to him. And we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about him a ton on this show, not just

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<v Speaker 1>with with like this particular topic, but from other angles,

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<v Speaker 1>like we had a guy on who hates Kubrick. We

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<v Speaker 1>had a guy on who talked about Kubrick and his

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<v Speaker 1>you know, espionage kind of maybe connections, right so, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least like propaganda and that sort of thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just I find it kind of interesting because we

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<v Speaker 1>often think about mk ultra like Manchurian candidates. But in

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<v Speaker 1>a way, the moon landing was like a mass mcaultra

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<v Speaker 1>when actually it's fabricated to some degree. Whether that means that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the rockets only went so far, or either

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<v Speaker 1>the rockets didn't even fly at all, or whatever. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the details. That's not what we're here

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<v Speaker 1>to argue about. But I think most people can agree

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<v Speaker 1>at this point the moon landing has some issues with

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<v Speaker 1>its legitimacy. It's a little bit less than plausible at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. And I think Kubrick, being that he was

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<v Speaker 1>so close to the military and these groups who provided

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<v Speaker 1>like that's the big thing that the debunkers go for,

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<v Speaker 1>as they say, oh, well he only got these lenses

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<v Speaker 1>from the NASA people afterwards, but we don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>get into that. I think what's most important about Kubrick

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<v Speaker 1>he seemed kind of like a film genius, Like he

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<v Speaker 1>suffered and he bled for the films that he loved, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like he really in everybody around him had to work

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<v Speaker 1>of Stanley Kubrick? Do you think that it really is

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<v Speaker 1>like this sort of sneaky way of subtly putting these

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<v Speaker 3>I think so too, And I think it's a testament

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<v Speaker 3>to the fact that this is just now coming out

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<v Speaker 3>was trying to subliminally put things in his film like

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<v Speaker 3>little hints and little clues here and there as to

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on. And you're right, the fact that this

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<v Speaker 3>moon landing theory. If anything, I think it goes hand

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<v Speaker 3>in hand because what we propose within the movie is

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<v Speaker 3>that it's not only an experiment within Stanley Kubrick making

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<v Speaker 3>as the movie is being filmed, no one does that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an experiment within the movie. It's also an experiment

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<v Speaker 3>on the actors that are in the movie and the

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<v Speaker 3>way that he treated Charlie Duvall and bas liberated her,

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<v Speaker 3>what she wants or what she needs. But it's also

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<v Speaker 3>an experiment within it on the audience as well, So

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<v Speaker 3>it's like a triple threat and that goes hand in

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<v Speaker 3>hand with the moon landing footage as well. Actually, I

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<v Speaker 3>have a trailer here which will really describes exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>Is that Okay, yeah, yeah, go for it.

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<v Speaker 4>Loucinogenic drugs, hypnosis, electric shocks to the brain some of

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<v Speaker 3>There are many theories as to what the shining is

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<v Speaker 3>really about, from the faking of the moon landing to

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<v Speaker 3>Native American genocide and the Holocaust.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if he did fake the Apollogon landing, he probably

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<v Speaker 2>has really deep connections into the intelligence world. Why are

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<v Speaker 2>there these gigantic continuity ats in this movie?

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<v Speaker 5>The occulted meeting has to be comprehensible. It's just hidden,

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<v Speaker 5>usually in a very systematic way, so that it could

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<v Speaker 5>be understood by someone coming along later on. Who knows

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<v Speaker 5>what the real meaning is supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 3>We believe that there's something even more sinister lurking beneath

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<v Speaker 3>the surface of this masterful film.

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<v Speaker 2>So Lookout Mountain Hotel look a lot like the Overlook Hotel.

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<v Speaker 6>You realize there's no such thing as a coincidences like that.

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<v Speaker 3>As Lookout Mountain studios ran by the Air Force and

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<v Speaker 3>told the story of nuclear weapons testing by the United

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<v Speaker 4>The Army Navan Air Force. The Air Force was known

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<v Speaker 4>to be the most excited, the most turned on by

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<v Speaker 6>Reportedly that we more films might Lookout Mounting at all

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<v Speaker 2>We really don't know what these famous film directors were

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<v Speaker 2>being recruited for what project or whatever was it? The

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<v Speaker 2>Moon Landing.

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<v Speaker 3>The CIA's MK Ultra programs were admitted to the public

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen seventy, five, years before the release of The Shining.

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<v Speaker 7>These experiments were done without the informed consent of the patients.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at some UFO cases and the things that are

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<v Speaker 4>reporting tells me that.

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<v Speaker 1>MK Ultra is likely being applied.

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<v Speaker 7>My MK ultra mind control experience, I was taken to

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<v Speaker 7>various military, NASA, and DARPA installations for sophisticated mind control programming.

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<v Speaker 6>Woke Disney, Marilyn Monroe, James Stewart, Carrie Groan, Ronald Reagan.

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<v Speaker 6>Nobody really knows what they were doing up.

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<v Speaker 4>There, as well as high ranking military and Department of

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<v Speaker 2>But people don't realize is that many of the people

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<v Speaker 2>that worked with Kubrick also worked with Kennedy. This is

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<v Speaker 2>actually the smoking gun proving that Kubrick was working with

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<v Speaker 2>the government.

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<v Speaker 6>These were all CIA sponsored experiments.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I'm not gonna hurt you, I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 3>bash your brains.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm putting little symbolic cryptic clues and Easter eggs pertaining

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<v Speaker 6>to the fact that they're still doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>These clues include a hidden swastika in the background of

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<v Speaker 3>his old room.

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<v Speaker 7>What was the set up? What it was being told?

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<v Speaker 7>And realized that it was a lie all along?

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<v Speaker 6>But right there in the narrative in the dialogue, they're

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<v Speaker 6>telling you that this was a very real program coming

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<v Speaker 6>out of those nice folks in the CIO.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's Johnny.

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<v Speaker 1>Great.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was the trailer for Clockwork Shining on Amazon Prime,

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<v Speaker 3>and that gives you a really good rundown of exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what the movie is about. And that's the reason that

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<v Speaker 3>I put it together that way, and it touches on

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of different topics. This just isn't a movie

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<v Speaker 3>about Stanley Kubrick in the Shining or A Clockwork Orange.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a movie about the music industry, the film industry, MK, ultra,

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<v Speaker 3>military and government programs.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, what about Qubrick's background would lead us or

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<v Speaker 1>would like show where he learned a lot of this stuff?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Because A Clockwork Orange when that was released, it was

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<v Speaker 1>based on a book. And I believe the author of

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<v Speaker 1>that book's name is Anthony Burgess or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And this gentleman was writing the book because he had

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of political gain. I think he was an

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<v Speaker 1>English author and they were trying to expose the American

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<v Speaker 1>programs because there was maybe some sort of adversarial relationship

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<v Speaker 1>between MI sixter and the CIA for whatever reason. That

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<v Speaker 1>sounds about right. That's the best of my knowledge. So

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<v Speaker 1>Kubrick must have been reading this kind of stuff. But

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<v Speaker 1>were there any like I don't know, places that he

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<v Speaker 1>was enrolled in school, et cetera, military, etc. That where

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<v Speaker 1>he would have gotten any insider information about any of

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I really don't know if you actually need to

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<v Speaker 3>have insider information to know about it. Like I know

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<v Speaker 3>a lot about the MK Ultra programs and no insider

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<v Speaker 3>has ever told me anything about it. But as far

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<v Speaker 3>as a military background that we do provide some information

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<v Speaker 3>in there that Kubrick was being sought after for an

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<v Speaker 3>unknown project, him and four other film directors, and he

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<v Speaker 3>was looked at as the most promising of these other

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<v Speaker 3>fore film directors. So there is evidence that Qubrick had

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<v Speaker 3>involvement with the military, in with the government. And we

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<v Speaker 3>also know during the filming of two thousand and one

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<v Speaker 3>A Space Odyssey, there were in the in the credit

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<v Speaker 3>it's the original credits for that movie. Quebreak credits all

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<v Speaker 3>of the big military agency. He credits the Air Force,

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<v Speaker 3>air Force Intelligence, basically all of the major intelligence communities

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<v Speaker 3>for contributing to the making of that film, and later

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<v Speaker 3>on they were removed. So it stands to good reason

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<v Speaker 3>that he did indeed have some connections to the military

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<v Speaker 3>and with Doctor Strangelove as well. We have a clip

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<v Speaker 3>of Cubrick's production designer talking about Doctor Strangelove and how

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<v Speaker 3>Cubreic and his production designer basically recreated the inside of

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<v Speaker 3>a B fifty two and the military was really frightened

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<v Speaker 3>by that because they thought that someone had leaked Cubic

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<v Speaker 3>the information on the B fifty two and what the

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<v Speaker 3>inside of the cockpit actually looks like. And they actually

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<v Speaker 3>visited Cubriic on the set of that movie, and we

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<v Speaker 3>have Cubric's production designer talking about that and how Kubrick

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<v Speaker 3>told him, you need to get together where you got

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<v Speaker 3>all this information to build the inside of this B

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<v Speaker 1>And did the production designer have a legitimate reason for

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that? Was it just kis Mitt and he had

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<v Speaker 1>happened to just have like some sort of remote viewing

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<v Speaker 1>ability to just guess it.

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<v Speaker 3>He could have, I think everybody's psychic. But the explanation

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<v Speaker 3>was is that he it took the cutouts from a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of different magazines and they then he would look

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<v Speaker 3>at models of it, like tiny miniature models, and then

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<v Speaker 3>he put kind of piece together what he thought that

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<v Speaker 3>the inside of the B fifty two would look like,

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<v Speaker 3>and he got it spot on basically. So much of

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<v Speaker 3>that a scale the military to the point they were like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>we might need to investigate Stanley Kubrick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we might need to set our propaganda cameras up

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<v Speaker 1>a little farther away from the planes. Because that's the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing about the film industry is like it's completely

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<v Speaker 1>military from the beginning, because the whole idea was they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to show the public who the boss was and

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<v Speaker 1>get everybody enrolled in the draft and make everyone excited

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<v Speaker 1>about fighting whatever war was on the horizon. Right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a total propaganda piece from the get go. We now

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<v Speaker 1>we think of it for like what do you call it?

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<v Speaker 1>The vaudeville type stars and whatnot that made their way

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<v Speaker 1>into Hollywood, but a lot of those people were gangsters

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<v Speaker 1>and criminals and underground types to begin with, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like unsurprising that you'd have these themes within the

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<v Speaker 1>film industry and then also this close connection to UH

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<v Speaker 1>to directors like Kubrick, but he just seems kind of

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<v Speaker 1>even with his prowess as a director, he seems kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a like an outsider. And I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to hard to even call him an outsider when

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood regards him as like the best director of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>Like his films have more awards than I think any

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<v Speaker 1>other director or something like that, Like he's been given

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of awards praise.

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<v Speaker 3>But not until after his death. I think he only

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<v Speaker 3>won one Academy Award and it was not for directing.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, Yeah, he's that issue.

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<v Speaker 3>I really like about Cubrick is not even it's not

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<v Speaker 3>even so much the way that his films are shot,

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<v Speaker 3>which his films are shot are really beautifully, but Kubrick

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<v Speaker 3>does things in a way to not give away the

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<v Speaker 3>entire movie before the movie ends. And that's a really

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<v Speaker 3>big problem with movies nowadays, is they give every a

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<v Speaker 3>way within the exposition of the movie, within the dialogue

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<v Speaker 3>of the characters, they tell you about the entire movie,

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<v Speaker 3>so there's literally no mystery to the movie, which is

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<v Speaker 3>a really interesting thing that happens within the Shining because

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<v Speaker 3>the first ten minutes of The Shining between Almend, which

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<v Speaker 3>Almend looks a lot like JFK and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people have pointed that out before, between Almond and Jack

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<v Speaker 3>and Bill, there's Almend pretty much tells Jack exactly what's

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<v Speaker 3>going to happen in the rest of the movie. He's like, Jack,

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<v Speaker 3>this isn't this isn't a physical This isn't a physically

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<v Speaker 3>demanding job, Jack, this is a This is more of

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<v Speaker 3>a psychological job. Because you're isolated up here with nobody

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<v Speaker 3>around you. It snows really heavily during the winter. You

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<v Speaker 3>can if you try and get out, you gotta take

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<v Speaker 3>the sidewinder down the mountain. You know. He's telling him

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<v Speaker 3>that it's a psychological job, it's not a physical job

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<v Speaker 3>that he's getting in for. And then he proceeds to

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<v Speaker 3>tell him about Grady, which suffered a mental breakdown and

422
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<v Speaker 3>killed his two little girls and his wife. So he

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much lays out the entire movie in that first

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<v Speaker 3>ten minutes of the movie, but he doesn't come out

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<v Speaker 3>and like, you know, just straight up say it, like

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<v Speaker 3>this is what's going to happen. He's just like, you know, Jack,

427
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<v Speaker 3>this isn't really a you know, a physically demanding job.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a psychological job. It's a mental job. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a mental game up here, and you have to be

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<v Speaker 3>mentally strong to make it through, to make it through

431
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<v Speaker 3>the winner up here. So that's a really interesting concept

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<v Speaker 3>that I don't think a lot of people have really

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<v Speaker 3>paid attention to because they think that that part of

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<v Speaker 3>the movie is the most boring part of the movie,

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<v Speaker 3>which the first time that I watched it, I have

436
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<v Speaker 3>thought that it was too because it's just ten minutes

437
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<v Speaker 3>of Ohman talking to Jack about you know, the overlook,

438
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<v Speaker 3>and then it cuts back between Wendy and Danny a

439
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<v Speaker 3>few times, but nothing really happens, and really nothing happens

440
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<v Speaker 3>in the entire movie until up to the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the movie things actually start really happening. And that's what

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<v Speaker 3>makes me question, well, is this really a horror film?

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<v Speaker 3>Because there's some dramatic imagery. But I think that if

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<v Speaker 3>this film was released today, I don't think that it

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<v Speaker 3>would be a be classified as a horror film. It

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<v Speaker 3>would be more like a psychological thriller, is what that

447
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<v Speaker 3>it would be categorized as. And another thing that's really

448
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<v Speaker 3>interesting too that we bring up in the movie is

449
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<v Speaker 3>you know how Jack is, you know, supposedly writing the book.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the most famous scene in the movie whenever Wendy

451
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<v Speaker 3>comes in and sees that Jack hasn't been writing a book.

452
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<v Speaker 3>He's just been writing the same sentence over and over again.

453
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<v Speaker 3>All work and no play. Makes Jack a dull boy. Well,

454
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<v Speaker 3>another version of that was Sir Hans Sirhan, which assassinated RFK,

455
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<v Speaker 3>won't supposedly assassinated RFK, right that same version of what

456
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:19.599
<v Speaker 3>was going on there, Sir Hans Sirhan was also doing.

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<v Speaker 3>If you look at Sir Hans Sirhan's notebook, it says

458
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<v Speaker 3>RFK must die, RFK must die, RFK must die, over

459
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<v Speaker 3>and over and over again. There's like a whole entire

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<v Speaker 3>page of nothing but Sir Hansuran saying RFK must die.

461
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<v Speaker 3>And that's a typical MK ultra technique that's called psychic driving,

462
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<v Speaker 3>where they program you with a word and program you

463
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<v Speaker 3>with a phrase, and then it's just a coincidence. Whenever

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<v Speaker 3>Wendy comes in and finds Jack is just writing the

465
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<v Speaker 3>same thing. She's went through all the notebook papers and

466
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<v Speaker 3>seeing that it's the same thing written out over and

467
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<v Speaker 3>over and over again, and then Jack becomes triggered. Jack

468
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<v Speaker 3>becomes triggered to do violence against his family, to try

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<v Speaker 3>and kill Wendy and Danny. Then, also in the beginning

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<v Speaker 3>of the film that very few people have ever pointed out.

471
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<v Speaker 3>I had never heard this before until Jay had brought

472
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<v Speaker 3>it up and we talked about it within the movie,

473
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<v Speaker 3>is that the first time we meet Wendy and Danny

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<v Speaker 3>in the movie, Wendy is reading a book by J. D.

475
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<v Speaker 3>Salinger called Ketcher in the Rye. You just seen that

476
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<v Speaker 3>in the trailer. And Ketcher in the Rye has been

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<v Speaker 3>identified as a MK Ultramanchurian style candidate trigger. It's been

478
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<v Speaker 3>involved in two major assassinations less than a year after

479
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<v Speaker 3>the release of The Shining, which was John Lennon and

480
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<v Speaker 3>the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan. They were both found

481
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<v Speaker 3>on the scene, and so putting those together were like,

482
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<v Speaker 3>holy shit, Like, very few people has pointed out the

483
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<v Speaker 3>fact that Catcher in the Rye is even in the movie,

484
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<v Speaker 3>And how did Qubrick know that. How did Cubrick you know,

485
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<v Speaker 3>basically predict that a year before these two major assassinations

486
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<v Speaker 3>where both the assailants were on the scene reading Catcher

487
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<v Speaker 3>and the Rye Mark David Chapman, which you saw shot

488
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<v Speaker 3>John Lennon. He uh, It's been said that he stood

489
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<v Speaker 3>up in court and was like, do you want to

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to know my defense, all you got

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<v Speaker 3>to do is read Catcher in the Rye. We also

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<v Speaker 3>have the Sixth Sense by Will Smith. We have a

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<v Speaker 3>clip from The Sixth Sense in a Clockwork Shining where

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<v Speaker 3>Will Smith is basically breaking all this down of like

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<v Speaker 3>Catcher in the Rye. And then we have Joe Ottwell

496
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<v Speaker 3>talking about it. We have Walter Boseley talking about it,

497
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<v Speaker 3>and we also have Mark Devlin talking about the meaning

498
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:48.559
<v Speaker 3>behind Catcher in the Rye. And it's just a coincidence

499
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<v Speaker 3>that Wendy is reading this book which Jack is a

500
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<v Speaker 3>writer within the movie, so it's probably his book. And

501
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<v Speaker 3>then it's used for MK Ultra mind control assassins. And

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<v Speaker 3>then what is Jack doing throughout the movie?

503
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Right?

504
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is trying to kill his family.

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<v Speaker 1>This is uh strange memory. I have two of reading

506
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<v Speaker 1>that book. I remember being a bad like I was

507
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<v Speaker 1>always a good.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice and Venus is known as the morning Star, which

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<v Speaker 3>is also Lucifer.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, yeah, wow, I forget where that came up recently

511
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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about Lucifer and Venus and all that. But wow,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's on Amazon Prime. Is there anything else that?

513
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've been almost going for two hours here.

514
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<v Speaker 1>That's as long as the film is, so folks, I

515
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:36.799
<v Speaker 1>encourage you to go and watch it right now, But

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<v Speaker 1>there is there anything else you'd want people to know

517
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>before they tune in, or anything else you'd think they

518
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<v Speaker 1>should know to compel them to watch the film.

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00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:50.680
<v Speaker 3>Well, if they don't want to watch it by listening

520
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<v Speaker 3>to this whole thing, then that's crazy.

521
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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm sure they all want to, but yeah, no anything.

522
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<v Speaker 3>Please please support, Please support my movie. This is an

523
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<v Speaker 3>independent movie. Hollywood is dead. We really have to try

524
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:06.599
<v Speaker 3>and switch this around and support independent filmmakers so they

525
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<v Speaker 3>can continue to make really great films in the future.

526
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<v Speaker 3>And with each one is just getting better and better.

527
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<v Speaker 3>On my end, I'm learning new things and I want

528
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<v Speaker 3>to keep this going in the future. So please please

529
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 3>support this movie and hopefully we can get a link

530
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<v Speaker 3>in the description of this video. I'll be posting it

531
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:28.639
<v Speaker 3>on my end as well, and a link in the

532
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.119
<v Speaker 3>description of the podcast whether you're listening to a podcast

533
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:35.639
<v Speaker 3>version or video version on wherever you're listening to. Please

534
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:41.559
<v Speaker 3>support the film and please buy it. I know that

535
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:46.159
<v Speaker 3>it's you know, really it seems easy just to rent

536
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:48.519
<v Speaker 3>it for like two ninety nine. It's only two ninety

537
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:51.719
<v Speaker 3>nine to rent it, but to buy it is just

538
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:54.960
<v Speaker 3>a few dollars. More So, please help and support by

539
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:59.079
<v Speaker 3>just buying it, because those few dollars really do help

540
00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:03.480
<v Speaker 3>out and only a filmmakers and I. And again, it's

541
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<v Speaker 3>not just even if you don't like Stanley Kubrick, even

542
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<v Speaker 3>if you don't like The Shine, even if you've never

543
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:12.039
<v Speaker 3>even seen The Shining, it doesn't really matter. You're going

544
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:15.239
<v Speaker 3>to find something within this movie that you are going

545
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.559
<v Speaker 3>to like it. And it's not just about those topics.

546
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:21.519
<v Speaker 3>It's about everything that we talked about here and more.

547
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, there's so much more.

548
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<v Speaker 3>There's so many different things that we dive into in

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<v Speaker 3>this movie. That is from the response that I've gone

550
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:30.920
<v Speaker 3>and the people that has left for reviews so far

551
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.480
<v Speaker 3>on Amazon, they're mind blown. So please, if you get

552
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<v Speaker 3>the chance, I highly recommend.

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<v Speaker 1>Well and it's dangerous information, So definitely buy it because

554
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<v Speaker 1>if you rent it, who knows if it'll be there

555
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:47.679
<v Speaker 1>when you come back to watch it again, you know,

556
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:50.679
<v Speaker 1>a couple of months or years down the line, you

557
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:52.880
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like we gotta we gotta get

558
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<v Speaker 1>away from this streaming model. I'm somebody who likes to

559
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<v Speaker 1>have things downloaded because I've seen plenty of things that

560
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:02.599
<v Speaker 1>I used to go to on the internet disappear forever.

561
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:05.599
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, so all the more reason to buy it.

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<v Speaker 1>Support independent artists like yourself, independent creators. You also have

563
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:15.559
<v Speaker 1>a podcast Raised by Giants where people can they could

564
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:18.719
<v Speaker 1>find that anywhere they listen to this show. But on

565
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<v Speaker 1>that note of supporting filmmakers, you mentioned maybe Michael Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>might be on the docket for a future inquiry and

567
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<v Speaker 1>future documentary? Is it documentaries only that you're interested in creating?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I imagine after taking a lot of time

569
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<v Speaker 1>to study someone like Kubrick, you might get a little

570
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<v Speaker 1>inspired to make a film of your own. Have you

571
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<v Speaker 1>ever thought of doing anything in that realm, like a

572
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<v Speaker 1>departure from documentaries and creating something like a movie or

573
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<v Speaker 1>who knows what I mean? What are your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to do that. Actually have a lot

575
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<v Speaker 3>of really good ideas to do that. If anybody is

576
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:03.840
<v Speaker 3>listening to this and they watched the movie and they

577
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<v Speaker 3>have the means and the once to go on that

578
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:12.199
<v Speaker 3>venture with me, then you know, please please contact me,

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<v Speaker 3>because I really do want to do that. I've I've

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<v Speaker 3>always enjoyed movies. I watched movies and TV shows like

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<v Speaker 3>all the time in my spare time, and I grew

582
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<v Speaker 3>up watching them, so I know what looks good and

583
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<v Speaker 3>what doesn't look good, and how exactly I would want

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<v Speaker 3>to film this film in the storyline and the dialogue

585
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:33.440
<v Speaker 3>of all of it. So I just need the budget

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00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:36.079
<v Speaker 3>to be able to do it. So I would love

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<v Speaker 3>to do that. But for now, I think Michael Jackson

588
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<v Speaker 3>would be a great documentary. I don't think it probably

589
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:49.320
<v Speaker 3>won't do that, but it would definitely be a really

590
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:54.480
<v Speaker 3>interesting documentary because there's so many theories about what happened

591
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<v Speaker 3>to him and the star power that he had, and

592
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:02.239
<v Speaker 3>if he was actually be killed, if you faked us death,

593
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:09.599
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, could really strange videos about it. But

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely want to continue on this route of making films,

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<v Speaker 3>and regardless if it's more documentaries or a actual motion

596
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:23.039
<v Speaker 3>picture film with actors and people in it. That that

597
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<v Speaker 3>is the goal to get to and I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>work my way up to that. So please watch my

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<v Speaker 3>film and purchase my film so I can eventually get

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<v Speaker 3>to that point to where I can make a movie

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<v Speaker 3>or a TV show.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, all right, and I'm glad I asked

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<v Speaker 1>well with that, Folks, support Rider in this endeavor. Check

604
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:50.039
<v Speaker 1>out Clockwork Shining, and of course Raised by Giants your

605
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:54.320
<v Speaker 1>podcast where I'm sure you're going into other topics related

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00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:59.400
<v Speaker 1>and documenting the research along the way. It's a very

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<v Speaker 1>cool thing to witness and happy to be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Brother, until next episode, Immerse yourself in the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you are in the now.
