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With our social media all there are various outlooks. 23 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:25.319 Just go check those out, man, that would be much 24 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:28.640 much appreciated. Hey, guys, let's get to the meat of 25 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:30.959 the matter, of the fun stuff. This is a man 26 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:33.319 that I had on the show just a while back. 27 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:36.920 Dived into some symbolic studies and some of the esoteric 28 00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:40.840 stuff of symbolism. And I'm loving, loving, loving the conversations 29 00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:42.599 with this brother, so I had to bring him back. 30 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:45.599 So this is his return and you might not recognize him. 31 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:48.599 He has shaved his head, he's shaved his face off. 32 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:52.359 He is clean shaving and looking mighty mighty clean today. 33 00:01:52.439 --> 00:01:54.599 So I'd like to welcome to the show man Mario 34 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:57.040 from Symbolic Studies. Thanks for coming back, brother. 35 00:01:57.359 --> 00:01:59.640 Yeah, of course, thanks for having me. I really enjoyed 36 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:02.439 our convers station last time. So of course when you 37 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:04.439 invited me back, I was like, oh, yeah, this will 38 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:05.040 be a good time. 39 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:06.319 Awesome. 40 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:09.719 And once again, just like last time, I was doing 41 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:11.520 scrolling and I had to come across one of your 42 00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:14.960 reels on something. I'm like, now, that is something that 43 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:18.240 I find very interesting because it's something I've heard about 44 00:02:18.639 --> 00:02:21.360 just you know, here and there, and little tidbits, but 45 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:23.919 I've never actually taken a deep dive, so I was like, 46 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:26.400 I have to pick this man's brain on this subject. 47 00:02:26.439 --> 00:02:26.639 Man. 48 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:29.000 But before we get into that, Mario, just for anybody 49 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:32.159 that missed our previous episode together a new listener, you know, 50 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:34.439 something like that. Just let everybody know a little bit 51 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:37.520 about yourself, you know, your content and kind of what 52 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:38.120 you get into. 53 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:41.319 Brother, Yeah, for sure. So if people are unfamiliar with 54 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:44.560 my work or my channel, it's called Symbolic Studies. Symbolic 55 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:46.879 Studies dot com is where you can find all of 56 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:50.599 my links. So I'm on Instagram, at TikTok and Twitter, YouTube, 57 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:53.400 things like that. I have a podcast as well. I 58 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:56.120 host that with my wife. We talk about each sign 59 00:02:56.280 --> 00:02:58.840 during the sign itself. So we're about to release an 60 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:02.280 episode here on Virgo. And basically what I like to 61 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:06.599 do is I like to publish content around the signs 62 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:09.199 of astrology of the zodiac, right, and so I've been 63 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:10.919 doing that for a number of years now. So I 64 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:14.800 have a lot of reels and posts for every single sign. 65 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:17.599 I've done a lot of presentations about the signs as well. 66 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:19.759 But I also like to veer off and talk about 67 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:24.360 other things. And so I have presentations that I've gotten 68 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:27.120 into that have nothing to do with astrology but are 69 00:03:27.159 --> 00:03:31.479 about you know, symbolism and whatnot. And so basically the 70 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:34.039 project kind of started because I figured, if I'm going 71 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:36.000 to be a good symbologist, I need to have a 72 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:40.120 strong foundation with astrology, and I knew there was a 73 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:43.280 lot to get into there. And so I've been buying 74 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:46.680 symbolic dictionaries and reference books for years and years and years, 75 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:48.479 so I have a ton of them at my disposal, 76 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:51.639 and I just started researching each sign during the sign 77 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:55.360 itself and sort of the associated symbols, right, and so, 78 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:58.439 as an example, just because my mind is with Virgo 79 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:01.840 right now, Virgo oftentimes is holding wheat, so looking into 80 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:05.479 wheat symbolism. Sometimes she's holding a palm branch. What does 81 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:07.840 the palm tree represent? As an example, you know, for 82 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:10.960 a lot of people, that was the tree of life, right, 83 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:13.879 and so she's also associated with a lot of other things. 84 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:15.520 But that's kind of what I like to do. I 85 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:18.199 like to take symbols or myths in a way, kind 86 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:22.759 of deconstruct them, dive into the symbolism that's incorporated within 87 00:04:22.839 --> 00:04:27.959 those storylines or narratives. And talk about them. And basically, 88 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:29.680 because I've been doing this for a number of years, 89 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:32.759 I've picked up all sorts of little insights, you know, 90 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:36.160 about astrology and the zodiac and the planets and everything else. 91 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:38.839 And I have a different approach with astrology too, so 92 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:41.079 I'm not so much a natal chart astrologer. A lot 93 00:04:41.079 --> 00:04:43.759 of people when they think of astrology, that's what they're 94 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:47.079 thinking about, you know, when you're born. You know the transits, 95 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:51.079 the different angles, you know, the houses and whatnot. That's 96 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:53.439 like a secondary sort of thing for me. I'm more 97 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:56.399 interested in kind of the universal quality of the symbolism 98 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:59.360 and of these different sort of myths and archetypes and 99 00:04:59.399 --> 00:04:59.959 things like that. 100 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:07.040 Yeah, that's funny because this girl that I was talking 101 00:05:07.079 --> 00:05:11.199 to or courting for a little while, she was kind of, 102 00:05:11.519 --> 00:05:13.920 you know, curious about that kind of stuff. And when 103 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:16.040 I was we're still getting to know each other, I 104 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:18.759 told her my birth date and stuff. And we've been 105 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:20.879 talking for you know, a month or two, so she 106 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:23.160 kind of had a pretty good feel for me. But 107 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:25.000 she had mentioned that that's the first time I ever 108 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:27.600 heard that. She's like, I think you need to talk 109 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:30.000 to your mother because I was born like January the first, 110 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:33.120 like on New Year's She's like, you know, she said, 111 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:35.720 I think you were born sooner, because she asked what 112 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:38.079 time I was born. I was like, I think it 113 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:40.720 was this time, you know, And she's like, no, you're 114 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:44.480 too fiery if you've been born just a couple hours earlier. 115 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:47.480 I think she said something like something to do with 116 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:49.800 with aries or something like that. She said, because you're 117 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:53.560 too hot headed and fiery to be born at that 118 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:55.680 time or something like that. So that's the first time 119 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:58.360 I'd ever heard anything like that. So it's like, you know, 120 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:02.759 she was trying to forcefully push me at earlier birs 121 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:04.920 so it would fit her paradigm what she thought. 122 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:08.680 I was exactly exactly. I think a lot of people 123 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:11.600 take that side of things a bit too seriously, and 124 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:14.680 so I do have actually a lot of issues with 125 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:18.279 modern astrologer and a lot of modern astrology sort of 126 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:22.360 like perspectives and whatnot, and so I think people can 127 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:24.319 kind of get lost in the sauce with some of 128 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:26.279 that stuff, in my opinion, But I get a lot 129 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:29.800 of value out of decoding the symbolism of the signs, 130 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:33.399 and so, you know, to me, there's a whole world 131 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:36.920 out there. There's a whole interesting aspect to astrology that 132 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:40.519 has nothing to do with birthdays and whatnot, right, And 133 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:43.959 so actually what I found is because I focus on that, 134 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:47.399 a lot of astrologers love my channel because it's giving 135 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:50.639 them a whole new level of understanding with the signs 136 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:52.079 that they're so used to talking about. 137 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:54.439 And that's why I love your channel, dude, because I mean, 138 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:56.600 I'm not, you know, an astrologist. I don't get into 139 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:58.879 the horoscopes or anything like that. But I love how 140 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:02.160 you take the these symbols, you know, like Viigo and 141 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:04.720 right now you know what she meant, you know in 142 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:07.319 the ancient world, the symbolism behind her, like the wheat 143 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:09.519 and the palm branches in her hand. What does that mean? 144 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:12.720 That's what I love. I love you how you go 145 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:14.240 through and tear all this stuff down. 146 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:18.040 Beautiful, beautiful. Yeah, I appreciate it. And so one of 147 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:21.079 the interesting things with that is the fact that a 148 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:25.199 lot of these signs have a Tarot card correspondence as well. 149 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:28.639 And so there's some cards that basically are an emanation 150 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:31.319 of that sign. And so I know that I made 151 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:34.560 a post about the Chariot card, and there's a lot 152 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:37.199 of things about the Chariot Card that are very very interesting. 153 00:07:37.240 --> 00:07:39.879 But I talked about how the Chariot Card and the 154 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:44.360 Chariot tear kind of has this really interesting esoteric relationship 155 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:47.920 with this deity called a Braxis, and that was the 156 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:50.199 post that kind of prompted you to message me to 157 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:53.720 maybe have a conversation about that. So definitely down to 158 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:55.560 dive into that for sure, because there's a lot of 159 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:56.839 interesting threats to pull up. 160 00:07:57.720 --> 00:08:00.639 Yeah, and like I said, my you know, knowledge on 161 00:08:00.720 --> 00:08:03.399 this character is very very surface level. I think I 162 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:06.959 was first introduced to this character when I spoke with 163 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:10.839 Heidi Love So shout out to Heidi from the Unfiltered Dries. 164 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:16.560 She was breaking down the occult in Mormonism and all 165 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:18.600 the things in the history of that that they basically 166 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:23.800 try to hide and suppress. And apparently Joseph Smith was 167 00:08:23.879 --> 00:08:27.759 heavily into a Braxis and that they found drawings and 168 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:31.120 etchings and just all kinds of different stuff relating to 169 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:33.720 this guy. So that was kind of my first introduction. 170 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:35.480 That's all I really know. I know kind of what 171 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:37.519 he looks like, he's supposed to has like a rooster 172 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:40.440 head and like serpents for legs or something like that. 173 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:41.080 Is that right? 174 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:45.840 Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's interesting. There's a few people 175 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:49.240 kind of out and pop culture that have used a 176 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:52.399 Broxis as inspiration or what have you. 177 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:52.600 Like. 178 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:54.919 The first one that comes to mind actually is Santana. 179 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:59.320 Santana has an album called a Broxis actually, and then 180 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:02.679 I know Young, if I'm not mistaken, he has a 181 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:06.360 ring that has a Braxis on it, and actually, maybe 182 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:09.840 we could just start there. So my understanding is a 183 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:12.799 lot of what we referred to as a braxis like 184 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:17.120 symbolism and like illustrations. A lot of those depictions of 185 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:21.600 a braxis came from a Braxist jewelry. Essentially, I believe 186 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:24.080 they used to call them a Braxis stones, and so 187 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:27.440 that is sort of what has survived, you know, over 188 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:30.639 the ages, are these tiny little gems or these tiny 189 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:34.159 stones that have this miniature depiction of a Braxis on it, 190 00:09:34.759 --> 00:09:37.200 and when you look into that or when you google 191 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:40.320 image a Braxis, what you're going to see is a 192 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:45.759 rooster headed man. Basically. Oftentimes they have a shield in 193 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:49.000 one hand, a whip in another hand, and they're writing 194 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:54.480 a chariot, and he has a serpentine sort of connection, 195 00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:57.840 so he has serpentine legs basically, and so he has 196 00:09:57.879 --> 00:10:00.799 two legs that are basically serpents. You can actually see 197 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:04.639 the head of the snakes and everything right, and in 198 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:07.600 versions of a braxis that came later on. You know, 199 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:10.759 I mentioned before we started talking that there's a really 200 00:10:10.879 --> 00:10:15.320 well known painting in Manly P. Hall's book The Secret 201 00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:18.639 Teachings of All Ages. That book. When I first came 202 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:21.120 across it, it really blew my mind because there was 203 00:10:21.559 --> 00:10:24.159 just a ton of information in there. I got a 204 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:28.240 lot symbolically out of that book. And he has a 205 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:31.360 big painting in there of a braxis and he's being 206 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:34.559 pulled by four horses, and there's a few other details 207 00:10:34.559 --> 00:10:37.720 in there, like on the chariot that he's riding, there's 208 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:40.279 kind of what looks like a floral, like a very 209 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:43.120 simple flower, but it looks like it's embedded in the sun. 210 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:48.440 There's a lot of solar symbolism associated with the braxis, 211 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:51.360 and so that version there's a bit more detail, but 212 00:10:51.440 --> 00:10:55.000 the earlier versions there's really really limited detail. But that's 213 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:57.080 basically what you're going to see is that basic image 214 00:10:57.120 --> 00:11:00.759 of this hybrid sort of figure. And so my understanding 215 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:05.000 is that basically a lot of people tribute a Braxis 216 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:08.840 with Mithris, and the story of Mythris is pretty interesting. 217 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:13.559 The Mithraic mysteries. Now there is like a Persian version 218 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:16.919 of Mythris, and then there's sort of a Westernized version 219 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:20.960 of Mythrs. And admittedly the Western version is what I'm 220 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:24.279 more familiar with. And so for people who are unaware 221 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:28.200 the Mithraic mystery system, that was kind of the equivalent 222 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:31.919 of Freemasonry for a really long time. And so a 223 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.720 lot of soldiers Roman soldiers were into the Mithraic mysteries 224 00:11:36.440 --> 00:11:41.320 and their main emblem is basically Mythris slaying the cosmic bull. 225 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:43.960 So I'm not sure if you've ever seen that before, but. 226 00:11:44.039 --> 00:11:45.919 Mythris grabbing the bull by the horns. 227 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:50.720 Yeah, yeah. Oftentimes he's holding kind of like the neck 228 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:52.639 of the bull, or even it almost looks like he's 229 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:55.000 holding he's putting his fingers in the nostrils of the 230 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:57.320 bull to kind of lift its head, and then he's 231 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:00.519 stabbing the bull as well. That's it is called the 232 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:05.320 Taroctiny scene. And so my basic understanding of that is 233 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:08.519 that a lot of animals that were once revered and 234 00:12:08.559 --> 00:12:14.200 worshiped during their respective age when that age came and went. So, 235 00:12:14.279 --> 00:12:16.679 if we're talking about the Age of Taurus as an example, 236 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:19.639 the age of the bowl, the bowl or the cow 237 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:23.559 was revered and held sacred, and then once that age 238 00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:27.080 left and we entered into the Age of Ares, then 239 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:30.200 that animal, in this case the bull, became a sacrificial 240 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:32.679 sort of animal, and then it became sort of this 241 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:36.399 thing to sacrifice, right, And so this seemingly has happened 242 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:39.600 time and time again. There was this going on with 243 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:41.600 the ram as well, that the ram was sort of 244 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:44.399 put up on a pedestal, revered in a certain kind 245 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:47.799 of light, and then at some point became sacrificial in 246 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:50.600 nature once the Age of Ares came and went right. 247 00:12:51.279 --> 00:12:54.799 And so there's an interesting dynamic with mythrists and a braxis, 248 00:12:55.720 --> 00:12:59.519 and people also associated braxis with Jehovah, and so I 249 00:12:59.559 --> 00:13:05.039 know that that early Gnostics had this reverence for a braxis. 250 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:09.120 And basically there's a whole dynamic of a braxis being 251 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:12.080 related to the demiurge or the concept of the demiurge 252 00:13:12.200 --> 00:13:15.080 and sort of being the lord of the material realm. 253 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:20.240 And so the symbolism with its name a braxis. One 254 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:22.519 of the things that is worth noting is that it's 255 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:26.000 seven letters, and so there's a lot of seven symbolism 256 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:29.960 associated with the braxis as well. And so this is 257 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:33.159 interesting because I've done a ton of research on the 258 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:38.080 number seven, and the number seven is such an incredible number. 259 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:40.799 It's really amazing, and it's still like the novelty has 260 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:43.440 not worn off to me, like the number seven can 261 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:46.279 be seen everywhere. So just the basics, right, we have 262 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:49.759 seven days of the week, seven colors of the rainbow. Right, 263 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:54.840 We've got seven chakras, most people say, and it just 264 00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:56.960 kind of goes on and on and on from there. 265 00:13:57.320 --> 00:14:00.320 And so what I've come across with all of my 266 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:03.679 symbolic research is that a lot of cultures have this 267 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:07.879 idea that, whether you're talking about alchemy or you're maybe 268 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:12.759 talking about some sort of transcendental kind of methodology. I 269 00:14:12.759 --> 00:14:15.799 would even say, like astral travel, that the number seven 270 00:14:15.840 --> 00:14:18.720 has played a big role in some of these sort 271 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:22.440 of techniques. And so, as an example with alchemy, there's 272 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:26.240 a whole branch of alchemy called azoth alchemy, and with 273 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:30.440 Azoth alchemy, you have seven steps, and so there's seven 274 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:34.559 processes that you have to use in order to transmute 275 00:14:34.559 --> 00:14:38.279 something from like lead to gold. As an example, there's 276 00:14:38.519 --> 00:14:41.519 this idea that in order to get to the other side, 277 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:45.200 the great beyond, you know, you know, the underworld, if 278 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:47.440 you want to put it that way, that it takes 279 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:51.200 seven there's seven different thresholds that you have to cross through. 280 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:52.120 Or there's seven. 281 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:58.399 Mythricism too, Yes, exactly do those cave initiations and there 282 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.639 was seven stages, and I've read that some people said 283 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:05.360 they thought that was the seven planetory spheres that they 284 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:08.759 knew of at that time, or something like that. You've 285 00:15:08.759 --> 00:15:12.840 seen bigfoot hats, the ones that play it safe, hanging 286 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:16.919 next to the fridge magnets and park gift shop. But 287 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:21.200 the Soul Squatch their gear is built different. This is 288 00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:25.600 Squatch approved gear for people who believe the legend deserves more. 289 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:30.639 It's rugged, meaningful, and created by two outdoor obsessed believers 290 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:33.600 who wanted to honor the myth without watering it down. 291 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:38.919 Their Pathfinder hat. It's not just headwear. It's a quiet signal, 292 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:43.879 something that says, yeah, I believe. Check out the soul 293 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:48.200 squatch dot Com step into the story and join the 294 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:50.080 ones who never stopped believing. 295 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:01.559 Yeah, that's another thing. Seven traditional plan that's absolutely huge, 296 00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:04.399 and that relates to the seven days of the week, right, 297 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:07.600 So every single day of the week has a correspondence 298 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:11.200 with a different traditional planet. And so oftentimes, like with 299 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:14.960 this idea of seven phases or seven thresholds, to get 300 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:19.039 from this domain to the next domain, the more etheric 301 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:20.799 sort of plane, if you want to put it that way, 302 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:24.720 that you have to cross through these spheres, and that 303 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:28.960 each threshold, each sort of step, has this relationship with 304 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:32.240 one of the traditional seven planets. So the number seven 305 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:36.279 is super fascinating. Also just to say, I think I 306 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:38.919 have a pretty good hunch on where we literally get 307 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:42.960 the shape of the number seven from, and it I 308 00:16:43.039 --> 00:16:46.240 believe comes from Ursa Major, which is the big Dipper, 309 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:50.600 and so Ursa Major has seven stars and Ursa Minor 310 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:54.840 also has seven stars. In fact, Ursa Major, when you're 311 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:58.919 looking at the seven stars, the last star of the 312 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:02.080 vessel portion of the dipper actually points directly to the 313 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:07.400 North star. And so these stars were of supreme importance 314 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:11.319 way back when. And my personal opinion, I don't remember 315 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:14.000 if we talked about this last time. But I believe 316 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:17.440 that the fixed stars, so these would be all of 317 00:17:17.480 --> 00:17:20.880 the stars excluding the wandering stars, which would be the planets, 318 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:24.240 that all of the fixed stars, that that kind of 319 00:17:24.279 --> 00:17:27.440 composed the first sort of skyclock that people were really 320 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:30.880 following closely. And so they were a lot of people 321 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:33.839 were focusing on Ursa major and Ersamine or so the 322 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:36.119 Great Bear and the little Bear going around the pole 323 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:41.279 star circumambulating the Pole star going counterclockwise, and so they've 324 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:45.160 even been referred to as these seven original stars of Enlightenment. 325 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:48.920 And so the number seven fits in there perfectly. And 326 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:51.720 there's a lot of other there's a lot of cultures 327 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:55.440 that have used symbols to represent Ursa Major that look 328 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:58.039 very close to the number seven as well. And so 329 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:00.640 in ancient Egypt, as an example, I had this tool 330 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:04.400 called the ads tool, and it actually was a woodworking tool. 331 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:08.200 It looks exactly like the number seven, and they would 332 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:12.480 use this tool for ritualistic purposes, and they openly acknowledge 333 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:16.920 that it actually was a reference to Ursa major. And 334 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:19.480 so there's several other tools that they had that basically 335 00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:22.960 embodied the same sort of concepts and the reason why 336 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:27.599 this is important actually is because multiple cultures have had 337 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:31.079 this idea that upon death, your soul of sense to 338 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:35.079 the north and that the northern sky is actually the 339 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:39.759 stairway to heaven basically, and so I've read this multiple 340 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:42.279 times now, I've read multiple books about all of this. 341 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:44.039 To me, it makes all the sense in the world. 342 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:47.240 And the reason why this is the case as well 343 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:51.640 is because in the northern hemisphere Ursa Major and Ursa 344 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:54.839 Minor they don't dip below the horizon, and so they're 345 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:58.839 circumpolar constellations, and so people have referred to them as 346 00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:03.440 undying stars or imperishable stars because they don't go away 347 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:06.279 at night. They are always there at night. You can 348 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:09.480 see them around the polestar. This is in contrast to 349 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:12.720 the signs of the zodiac. The signs of the zodiac 350 00:19:13.160 --> 00:19:16.319 they dip below the horizon line, so there's whole parts 351 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:18.200 of the year where you're not going to see some 352 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:22.400 constellations if you're in the northern hemisphere. That's not the 353 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:26.839 case with these constellations specifically. And so the North star 354 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:30.799 also represents the center of the wheel of Heaven, and 355 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:33.039 so it's the still point in the middle of this 356 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:37.000 great wheel. And there's a lot of powerful symbolism that 357 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:40.079 associates with the center of the wheel, the center of 358 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:42.960 the wheel being the tranquil part of the wheel, the 359 00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:46.319 balanced part of the wheel, the transcendental part of the wheel. 360 00:19:46.839 --> 00:19:50.640 The external part of the wheel is generally symbolically related 361 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:55.640 more so to division, multiplicity, things outside of self. It's 362 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:58.720 the least balanced part of the wheel because it's always moving, 363 00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:01.480 it's always turning. In fact, the external part of the 364 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:04.920 wheel has also been viewed in like traditional terms as 365 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:08.400 being very dense and kind of more so related to Earth, 366 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:10.920 and that the center of the wheel is more of 367 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:14.359 a divine sort of portion of the wheel, right, And 368 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:18.960 so there's a lot of really positive symbolism, transcendental symbolism 369 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:20.880 that gets associated with the center of the wheel. 370 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:23.400 And so we have seen like a portal, you know, 371 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:25.680 exhausting of how you got that pole, star and a 372 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:28.680 center and everything rotating around it like a spiral circle. 373 00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:30.799 So it's kind of like a could have been seen 374 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:34.279 as a portal and one thing I never and I 375 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:37.119 love talking to people getting different perspectives. We mentioned it 376 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:41.279 last time, that Hamlet's meal, and you know, there was 377 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:43.960 three people that worked together and wrote that. So I'm 378 00:20:43.960 --> 00:20:46.240 not sure which one had brought this up, but they 379 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:50.079 were saying, and guys, brace yourself, you know. Disclaimer, I'm 380 00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:52.319 not saying that these stories are not true. But these 381 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:56.599 stories can still be true but have correlations in the heavens. 382 00:20:56.440 --> 00:21:00.319 That's my opinion. But like in the Bible where it 383 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:04.279 talks about these sons of God, you know, rebelled and 384 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:08.279 we're thrown into the abyss and stuff like that, one 385 00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:11.319 of the writers was saying that how the Bible refers 386 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:15.480 to angelic beings and stuff as stars, you know, and 387 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:19.319 that possibly that some of these stars, like you talked 388 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:23.599 about the horizon, how they dip below the horizon, so 389 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:26.519 they're going into the abyss, that the waters and you know, 390 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:29.680 death in prison for so long, and they were saying 391 00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:35.960 that maybe some of these stars were in the sky 392 00:21:36.039 --> 00:21:38.680 and part of that wheel that everybody could see at 393 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:40.079 one point, and then there was some kind of great 394 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:44.279 cataclysm that may be caused the shift, and now those 395 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:46.680 stars are no longer seen, they're in the abyss. 396 00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:46.960 You know. 397 00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:49.240 I thought that was pretty interesting. 398 00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:53.559 Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, definitely absolutely it is. So, you know, 399 00:21:53.640 --> 00:21:56.279 one thing to consider with the Pole Star and its 400 00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:59.640 power and significance is people saying that the polestar has 401 00:21:59.680 --> 00:22:02.839