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Speaker 3: that I had on the show just a while back.
Speaker 3: Dived into some symbolic studies and some of the esoteric
Speaker 3: stuff of symbolism. And I'm loving, loving, loving the conversations
Speaker 3: with this brother, so I had to bring him back.
Speaker 3: So this is his return and you might not recognize him.
Speaker 3: He has shaved his head, he's shaved his face off.
Speaker 3: He is clean shaving and looking mighty mighty clean today.
Speaker 3: So I'd like to welcome to the show man Mario
Speaker 3: from Symbolic Studies. Thanks for coming back, brother.
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, thanks for having me. I really enjoyed
Speaker 4: our convers station last time. So of course when you
Speaker 4: invited me back, I was like, oh, yeah, this will
Speaker 4: be a good time.
Speaker 2: Awesome.
Speaker 3: And once again, just like last time, I was doing
Speaker 3: scrolling and I had to come across one of your
Speaker 3: reels on something. I'm like, now, that is something that
Speaker 3: I find very interesting because it's something I've heard about
Speaker 3: just you know, here and there, and little tidbits, but
Speaker 3: I've never actually taken a deep dive, so I was like,
Speaker 3: I have to pick this man's brain on this subject.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: But before we get into that, Mario, just for anybody
Speaker 3: that missed our previous episode together a new listener, you know,
Speaker 3: something like that. Just let everybody know a little bit
Speaker 3: about yourself, you know, your content and kind of what
Speaker 3: you get into.
Speaker 4: Brother, Yeah, for sure. So if people are unfamiliar with
Speaker 4: my work or my channel, it's called Symbolic Studies. Symbolic
Speaker 4: Studies dot com is where you can find all of
Speaker 4: my links. So I'm on Instagram, at TikTok and Twitter, YouTube,
Speaker 4: things like that. I have a podcast as well. I
Speaker 4: host that with my wife. We talk about each sign
Speaker 4: during the sign itself. So we're about to release an
Speaker 4: episode here on Virgo. And basically what I like to
Speaker 4: do is I like to publish content around the signs
Speaker 4: of astrology of the zodiac, right, and so I've been
Speaker 4: doing that for a number of years now. So I
Speaker 4: have a lot of reels and posts for every single sign.
Speaker 4: I've done a lot of presentations about the signs as well.
Speaker 4: But I also like to veer off and talk about
Speaker 4: other things. And so I have presentations that I've gotten
Speaker 4: into that have nothing to do with astrology but are
Speaker 4: about you know, symbolism and whatnot. And so basically the
Speaker 4: project kind of started because I figured, if I'm going
Speaker 4: to be a good symbologist, I need to have a
Speaker 4: strong foundation with astrology, and I knew there was a
Speaker 4: lot to get into there. And so I've been buying
Speaker 4: symbolic dictionaries and reference books for years and years and years,
Speaker 4: so I have a ton of them at my disposal,
Speaker 4: and I just started researching each sign during the sign
Speaker 4: itself and sort of the associated symbols, right, and so,
Speaker 4: as an example, just because my mind is with Virgo
Speaker 4: right now, Virgo oftentimes is holding wheat, so looking into
Speaker 4: wheat symbolism. Sometimes she's holding a palm branch. What does
Speaker 4: the palm tree represent? As an example, you know, for
Speaker 4: a lot of people, that was the tree of life, right,
Speaker 4: and so she's also associated with a lot of other things.
Speaker 4: But that's kind of what I like to do. I
Speaker 4: like to take symbols or myths in a way, kind
Speaker 4: of deconstruct them, dive into the symbolism that's incorporated within
Speaker 4: those storylines or narratives. And talk about them. And basically,
Speaker 4: because I've been doing this for a number of years,
Speaker 4: I've picked up all sorts of little insights, you know,
Speaker 4: about astrology and the zodiac and the planets and everything else.
Speaker 4: And I have a different approach with astrology too, so
Speaker 4: I'm not so much a natal chart astrologer. A lot
Speaker 4: of people when they think of astrology, that's what they're
Speaker 4: thinking about, you know, when you're born. You know the transits,
Speaker 4: the different angles, you know, the houses and whatnot. That's
Speaker 4: like a secondary sort of thing for me. I'm more
Speaker 4: interested in kind of the universal quality of the symbolism
Speaker 4: and of these different sort of myths and archetypes and
Speaker 4: things like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's funny because this girl that I was talking
Speaker 3: to or courting for a little while, she was kind of,
Speaker 3: you know, curious about that kind of stuff. And when
Speaker 3: I was we're still getting to know each other, I
Speaker 3: told her my birth date and stuff. And we've been
Speaker 3: talking for you know, a month or two, so she
Speaker 3: kind of had a pretty good feel for me. But
Speaker 3: she had mentioned that that's the first time I ever
Speaker 3: heard that. She's like, I think you need to talk
Speaker 3: to your mother because I was born like January the first,
Speaker 3: like on New Year's She's like, you know, she said,
Speaker 3: I think you were born sooner, because she asked what
Speaker 3: time I was born. I was like, I think it
Speaker 3: was this time, you know, And she's like, no, you're
Speaker 3: too fiery if you've been born just a couple hours earlier.
Speaker 3: I think she said something like something to do with
Speaker 3: with aries or something like that. She said, because you're
Speaker 3: too hot headed and fiery to be born at that
Speaker 3: time or something like that. So that's the first time
Speaker 3: I'd ever heard anything like that. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: she was trying to forcefully push me at earlier birs
Speaker 3: so it would fit her paradigm what she thought.
Speaker 4: I was exactly exactly. I think a lot of people
Speaker 4: take that side of things a bit too seriously, and
Speaker 4: so I do have actually a lot of issues with
Speaker 4: modern astrologer and a lot of modern astrology sort of
Speaker 4: like perspectives and whatnot, and so I think people can
Speaker 4: kind of get lost in the sauce with some of
Speaker 4: that stuff, in my opinion, But I get a lot
Speaker 4: of value out of decoding the symbolism of the signs,
Speaker 4: and so, you know, to me, there's a whole world
Speaker 4: out there. There's a whole interesting aspect to astrology that
Speaker 4: has nothing to do with birthdays and whatnot, right, And
Speaker 4: so actually what I found is because I focus on that,
Speaker 4: a lot of astrologers love my channel because it's giving
Speaker 4: them a whole new level of understanding with the signs
Speaker 4: that they're so used to talking about.
Speaker 3: And that's why I love your channel, dude, because I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not, you know, an astrologist. I don't get into
Speaker 3: the horoscopes or anything like that. But I love how
Speaker 3: you take the these symbols, you know, like Viigo and
Speaker 3: right now you know what she meant, you know in
Speaker 3: the ancient world, the symbolism behind her, like the wheat
Speaker 3: and the palm branches in her hand. What does that mean?
Speaker 3: That's what I love. I love you how you go
Speaker 3: through and tear all this stuff down.
Speaker 4: Beautiful, beautiful. Yeah, I appreciate it. And so one of
Speaker 4: the interesting things with that is the fact that a
Speaker 4: lot of these signs have a Tarot card correspondence as well.
Speaker 4: And so there's some cards that basically are an emanation
Speaker 4: of that sign. And so I know that I made
Speaker 4: a post about the Chariot card, and there's a lot
Speaker 4: of things about the Chariot Card that are very very interesting.
Speaker 4: But I talked about how the Chariot Card and the
Speaker 4: Chariot tear kind of has this really interesting esoteric relationship
Speaker 4: with this deity called a Braxis, and that was the
Speaker 4: post that kind of prompted you to message me to
Speaker 4: maybe have a conversation about that. So definitely down to
Speaker 4: dive into that for sure, because there's a lot of
Speaker 4: interesting threats to pull up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like I said, my you know, knowledge on
Speaker 3: this character is very very surface level. I think I
Speaker 3: was first introduced to this character when I spoke with
Speaker 3: Heidi Love So shout out to Heidi from the Unfiltered Dries.
Speaker 3: She was breaking down the occult in Mormonism and all
Speaker 3: the things in the history of that that they basically
Speaker 3: try to hide and suppress. And apparently Joseph Smith was
Speaker 3: heavily into a Braxis and that they found drawings and
Speaker 3: etchings and just all kinds of different stuff relating to
Speaker 3: this guy. So that was kind of my first introduction.
Speaker 3: That's all I really know. I know kind of what
Speaker 3: he looks like, he's supposed to has like a rooster
Speaker 3: head and like serpents for legs or something like that.
Speaker 3: Is that right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's interesting. There's a few people
Speaker 4: kind of out and pop culture that have used a
Speaker 4: Broxis as inspiration or what have you.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 4: The first one that comes to mind actually is Santana.
Speaker 4: Santana has an album called a Broxis actually, and then
Speaker 4: I know Young, if I'm not mistaken, he has a
Speaker 4: ring that has a Braxis on it, and actually, maybe
Speaker 4: we could just start there. So my understanding is a
Speaker 4: lot of what we referred to as a braxis like
Speaker 4: symbolism and like illustrations. A lot of those depictions of
Speaker 4: a braxis came from a Braxist jewelry. Essentially, I believe
Speaker 4: they used to call them a Braxis stones, and so
Speaker 4: that is sort of what has survived, you know, over
Speaker 4: the ages, are these tiny little gems or these tiny
Speaker 4: stones that have this miniature depiction of a Braxis on it,
Speaker 4: and when you look into that or when you google
Speaker 4: image a Braxis, what you're going to see is a
Speaker 4: rooster headed man. Basically. Oftentimes they have a shield in
Speaker 4: one hand, a whip in another hand, and they're writing
Speaker 4: a chariot, and he has a serpentine sort of connection,
Speaker 4: so he has serpentine legs basically, and so he has
Speaker 4: two legs that are basically serpents. You can actually see
Speaker 4: the head of the snakes and everything right, and in
Speaker 4: versions of a braxis that came later on. You know,
Speaker 4: I mentioned before we started talking that there's a really
Speaker 4: well known painting in Manly P. Hall's book The Secret
Speaker 4: Teachings of All Ages. That book. When I first came
Speaker 4: across it, it really blew my mind because there was
Speaker 4: just a ton of information in there. I got a
Speaker 4: lot symbolically out of that book. And he has a
Speaker 4: big painting in there of a braxis and he's being
Speaker 4: pulled by four horses, and there's a few other details
Speaker 4: in there, like on the chariot that he's riding, there's
Speaker 4: kind of what looks like a floral, like a very
Speaker 4: simple flower, but it looks like it's embedded in the sun.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of solar symbolism associated with the braxis,
Speaker 4: and so that version there's a bit more detail, but
Speaker 4: the earlier versions there's really really limited detail. But that's
Speaker 4: basically what you're going to see is that basic image
Speaker 4: of this hybrid sort of figure. And so my understanding
Speaker 4: is that basically a lot of people tribute a Braxis
Speaker 4: with Mithris, and the story of Mythris is pretty interesting.
Speaker 4: The Mithraic mysteries. Now there is like a Persian version
Speaker 4: of Mythris, and then there's sort of a Westernized version
Speaker 4: of Mythrs. And admittedly the Western version is what I'm
Speaker 4: more familiar with. And so for people who are unaware
Speaker 4: the Mithraic mystery system, that was kind of the equivalent
Speaker 4: of Freemasonry for a really long time. And so a
Speaker 4: lot of soldiers Roman soldiers were into the Mithraic mysteries
Speaker 4: and their main emblem is basically Mythris slaying the cosmic bull.
Speaker 4: So I'm not sure if you've ever seen that before, but.
Speaker 3: Mythris grabbing the bull by the horns.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. Oftentimes he's holding kind of like the neck
Speaker 4: of the bull, or even it almost looks like he's
Speaker 4: holding he's putting his fingers in the nostrils of the
Speaker 4: bull to kind of lift its head, and then he's
Speaker 4: stabbing the bull as well. That's it is called the
Speaker 4: Taroctiny scene. And so my basic understanding of that is
Speaker 4: that a lot of animals that were once revered and
Speaker 4: worshiped during their respective age when that age came and went. So,
Speaker 4: if we're talking about the Age of Taurus as an example,
Speaker 4: the age of the bowl, the bowl or the cow
Speaker 4: was revered and held sacred, and then once that age
Speaker 4: left and we entered into the Age of Ares, then
Speaker 4: that animal, in this case the bull, became a sacrificial
Speaker 4: sort of animal, and then it became sort of this
Speaker 4: thing to sacrifice, right, And so this seemingly has happened
Speaker 4: time and time again. There was this going on with
Speaker 4: the ram as well, that the ram was sort of
Speaker 4: put up on a pedestal, revered in a certain kind
Speaker 4: of light, and then at some point became sacrificial in
Speaker 4: nature once the Age of Ares came and went right.
Speaker 4: And so there's an interesting dynamic with mythrists and a braxis,
Speaker 4: and people also associated braxis with Jehovah, and so I
Speaker 4: know that that early Gnostics had this reverence for a braxis.
Speaker 4: And basically there's a whole dynamic of a braxis being
Speaker 4: related to the demiurge or the concept of the demiurge
Speaker 4: and sort of being the lord of the material realm.
Speaker 4: And so the symbolism with its name a braxis. One
Speaker 4: of the things that is worth noting is that it's
Speaker 4: seven letters, and so there's a lot of seven symbolism
Speaker 4: associated with the braxis as well. And so this is
Speaker 4: interesting because I've done a ton of research on the
Speaker 4: number seven, and the number seven is such an incredible number.
Speaker 4: It's really amazing, and it's still like the novelty has
Speaker 4: not worn off to me, like the number seven can
Speaker 4: be seen everywhere. So just the basics, right, we have
Speaker 4: seven days of the week, seven colors of the rainbow. Right,
Speaker 4: We've got seven chakras, most people say, and it just
Speaker 4: kind of goes on and on and on from there.
Speaker 4: And so what I've come across with all of my
Speaker 4: symbolic research is that a lot of cultures have this
Speaker 4: idea that, whether you're talking about alchemy or you're maybe
Speaker 4: talking about some sort of transcendental kind of methodology. I
Speaker 4: would even say, like astral travel, that the number seven
Speaker 4: has played a big role in some of these sort
Speaker 4: of techniques. And so, as an example with alchemy, there's
Speaker 4: a whole branch of alchemy called azoth alchemy, and with
Speaker 4: Azoth alchemy, you have seven steps, and so there's seven
Speaker 4: processes that you have to use in order to transmute
Speaker 4: something from like lead to gold. As an example, there's
Speaker 4: this idea that in order to get to the other side,
Speaker 4: the great beyond, you know, you know, the underworld, if
Speaker 4: you want to put it that way, that it takes
Speaker 4: seven there's seven different thresholds that you have to cross through.
Speaker 4: Or there's seven.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's another thing. Seven traditional plan that's absolutely huge,
Speaker 4: and that relates to the seven days of the week, right,
Speaker 4: So every single day of the week has a correspondence
Speaker 4: with a different traditional planet. And so oftentimes, like with
Speaker 4: this idea of seven phases or seven thresholds, to get
Speaker 4: from this domain to the next domain, the more etheric
Speaker 4: sort of plane, if you want to put it that way,
Speaker 4: that you have to cross through these spheres, and that
Speaker 4: each threshold, each sort of step, has this relationship with
Speaker 4: one of the traditional seven planets. So the number seven
Speaker 4: is super fascinating. Also just to say, I think I
Speaker 4: have a pretty good hunch on where we literally get
Speaker 4: the shape of the number seven from, and it I
Speaker 4: believe comes from Ursa Major, which is the big Dipper,
Speaker 4: and so Ursa Major has seven stars and Ursa Minor
Speaker 4: also has seven stars. In fact, Ursa Major, when you're
Speaker 4: looking at the seven stars, the last star of the
Speaker 4: vessel portion of the dipper actually points directly to the
Speaker 4: North star. And so these stars were of supreme importance
Speaker 4: way back when. And my personal opinion, I don't remember
Speaker 4: if we talked about this last time. But I believe
Speaker 4: that the fixed stars, so these would be all of
Speaker 4: the stars excluding the wandering stars, which would be the planets,
Speaker 4: that all of the fixed stars, that that kind of
Speaker 4: composed the first sort of skyclock that people were really
Speaker 4: following closely. And so they were a lot of people
Speaker 4: were focusing on Ursa major and Ersamine or so the
Speaker 4: Great Bear and the little Bear going around the pole
Speaker 4: star circumambulating the Pole star going counterclockwise, and so they've
Speaker 4: even been referred to as these seven original stars of Enlightenment.
Speaker 4: And so the number seven fits in there perfectly. And
Speaker 4: there's a lot of other there's a lot of cultures
Speaker 4: that have used symbols to represent Ursa Major that look
Speaker 4: very close to the number seven as well. And so
Speaker 4: in ancient Egypt, as an example, I had this tool
Speaker 4: called the ads tool, and it actually was a woodworking tool.
Speaker 4: It looks exactly like the number seven, and they would
Speaker 4: use this tool for ritualistic purposes, and they openly acknowledge
Speaker 4: that it actually was a reference to Ursa major. And
Speaker 4: so there's several other tools that they had that basically
Speaker 4: embodied the same sort of concepts and the reason why
Speaker 4: this is important actually is because multiple cultures have had
Speaker 4: this idea that upon death, your soul of sense to
Speaker 4: the north and that the northern sky is actually the
Speaker 4: stairway to heaven basically, and so I've read this multiple
Speaker 4: times now, I've read multiple books about all of this.
Speaker 4: To me, it makes all the sense in the world.
Speaker 4: And the reason why this is the case as well
Speaker 4: is because in the northern hemisphere Ursa Major and Ursa
Speaker 4: Minor they don't dip below the horizon, and so they're
Speaker 4: circumpolar constellations, and so people have referred to them as
Speaker 4: undying stars or imperishable stars because they don't go away
Speaker 4: at night. They are always there at night. You can
Speaker 4: see them around the polestar. This is in contrast to
Speaker 4: the signs of the zodiac. The signs of the zodiac
Speaker 4: they dip below the horizon line, so there's whole parts
Speaker 4: of the year where you're not going to see some
Speaker 4: constellations if you're in the northern hemisphere. That's not the
Speaker 4: case with these constellations specifically. And so the North star
Speaker 4: also represents the center of the wheel of Heaven, and
Speaker 4: so it's the still point in the middle of this
Speaker 4: great wheel. And there's a lot of powerful symbolism that
Speaker 4: associates with the center of the wheel, the center of
Speaker 4: the wheel being the tranquil part of the wheel, the
Speaker 4: balanced part of the wheel, the transcendental part of the wheel.
Speaker 4: The external part of the wheel is generally symbolically related
Speaker 4: more so to division, multiplicity, things outside of self. It's
Speaker 4: the least balanced part of the wheel because it's always moving,
Speaker 4: it's always turning. In fact, the external part of the
Speaker 4: wheel has also been viewed in like traditional terms as
Speaker 4: being very dense and kind of more so related to Earth,
Speaker 4: and that the center of the wheel is more of
Speaker 4: a divine sort of portion of the wheel, right, And
Speaker 4: so there's a lot of really positive symbolism, transcendental symbolism
Speaker 4: that gets associated with the center of the wheel.
Speaker 3: And so we have seen like a portal, you know,
Speaker 3: exhausting of how you got that pole, star and a
Speaker 3: center and everything rotating around it like a spiral circle.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like a could have been seen
Speaker 3: as a portal and one thing I never and I
Speaker 3: love talking to people getting different perspectives. We mentioned it
Speaker 3: last time, that Hamlet's meal, and you know, there was
Speaker 3: three people that worked together and wrote that. So I'm
Speaker 3: not sure which one had brought this up, but they
Speaker 3: were saying, and guys, brace yourself, you know. Disclaimer, I'm
Speaker 3: not saying that these stories are not true. But these
Speaker 3: stories can still be true but have correlations in the heavens.
Speaker 3: That's my opinion. But like in the Bible where it
Speaker 3: talks about these sons of God, you know, rebelled and
Speaker 3: we're thrown into the abyss and stuff like that, one
Speaker 3: of the writers was saying that how the Bible refers
Speaker 3: to angelic beings and stuff as stars, you know, and
Speaker 3: that possibly that some of these stars, like you talked
Speaker 3: about the horizon, how they dip below the horizon, so
Speaker 3: they're going into the abyss, that the waters and you know,
Speaker 3: death in prison for so long, and they were saying
Speaker 3: that maybe some of these stars were in the sky
Speaker 3: and part of that wheel that everybody could see at
Speaker 3: one point, and then there was some kind of great
Speaker 3: cataclysm that may be caused the shift, and now those
Speaker 3: stars are no longer seen, they're in the abyss.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I thought that was pretty interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, definitely absolutely it is. So, you know,
Speaker 4: one thing to consider with the Pole Star and its
Speaker 4: power and significance is people saying that the polestar has
Speaker 4: shifted and that we've had different pole stars. And so
Speaker 4: if this is the case, then really the pole Star
Speaker 4: is more of a title, and that it's a title
Speaker 4: of the star that's closest to this central point of pivot,
Speaker 4: you know, in the heavens. And so if people want
Speaker 4: to do more research on this. By the way, this
Speaker 4: all relates to symbolism, and this gets to a braxis
Speaker 4: as well. This all gets to symbolism related to the
Speaker 4: world axis or the axis MUNDI. Notice that a braxis
Speaker 4: has axis right there in it, right, and so when
Speaker 4: we're talking about the axis, we're talking about a poll,
Speaker 4: a symbolic pole. And so this idea basically is that
Speaker 4: there's an innate relationship with the North Pole and the
Speaker 4: North Star, which is the Pole Star, and so that
Speaker 4: there's a symbolic axis or bridge or pole that extends
Speaker 4: from the North Pole through the Pole Star. And so
Speaker 4: my personal opinion, you know, I like to think of
Speaker 4: the chakra system actually in this regard. So my personal
Speaker 4: opinion is that there are realms above and below and
Speaker 4: symbolically they're all connected through their center, and that that's
Speaker 4: kind of a secret, is that the center is what
Speaker 4: connects everything together. You know, I'm of the opinion that
Speaker 4: everything is expressed from the center returns back to the
Speaker 4: same center. And so these different realms above and below
Speaker 4: have been imagined like spheres or I would even say
Speaker 4: the wheel once again is applicable. And so what does
Speaker 4: chakra mean? Chakra means disc or means wheel. And if
Speaker 4: there's seven chakras stacked on top of each other, they're
Speaker 4: all connected through what through this central pole that basically
Speaker 4: is your spine, right, And so the symbolism still applies
Speaker 4: is that they're all connected through their center, that these
Speaker 4: different layers, energetic layers, actually have this bridge that connects
Speaker 4: all of them together, right, And so a braxis has
Speaker 4: axis right there. And what do you know, we're talking
Speaker 4: about the chariot. We're talking about a charioteer basically, right,
Speaker 4: He's always seen on a chariot. And so to me,
Speaker 4: what's so fascinating about all of this is that if
Speaker 4: there's a card that relates to the wheel, there's actually
Speaker 4: two of them that relate very strongly to the wheel.
Speaker 4: In the major arcana in the tarot. One of them
Speaker 4: would be the wheel of fortune, and generally you see
Speaker 4: this wheel, and the most potent part of the wheel,
Speaker 4: once again, the most important part is the axle itself,
Speaker 4: is that center point of pivot. In my opinion, the
Speaker 4: second card that relates to wheel symbolism very very strongly
Speaker 4: is the chariot card. And this is the seventh card
Speaker 4: of the major arcana. So here we're dealing with the
Speaker 4: number seven again, and we're talking about a Braxis having
Speaker 4: seven letters having this relationship with the number seven. What
Speaker 4: a lot of people have said is that a Braxis
Speaker 4: relates to this concept of what's referred to as the
Speaker 4: seventh ray, and that the seventh ray is kind of
Speaker 4: this invisible ray, and it actually relates strongly to rainbow symbolism.
Speaker 4: And so I said earlier that the seven colors of
Speaker 4: the rainbow, what I've read from authors that I really
Speaker 4: respect and admire is that's actually the esoteric view, is
Speaker 4: that the rainbow actually only has six colors, that if
Speaker 4: you actually count the amount of colors in the rainbow spectrum,
Speaker 4: you're going to see six distinct colors, but that the
Speaker 4: seventh color is actually an invisible color basically, so it
Speaker 4: kind of represents this seventh ray. And so the seventh
Speaker 4: you know, thing of any system is oftentimes viewed as
Speaker 4: sort of the transcendental kind of number. So as an example,
Speaker 4: it's like a completion exactly, right. So another symbol that
Speaker 4: relates to this would be the cube actually, and so
Speaker 4: the cube has six sides. The cube basically, in so
Speaker 4: many ways represents the sixth dimensions of space, or the
Speaker 4: six directions of space. Excuse me. So you have forward, backward, left, right,
Speaker 4: and then you have up and down. Now all of
Speaker 4: these directions emanate from a central point, and so that
Speaker 4: central point would actually be the seventh point. So the
Speaker 4: cube itself has a symbolic relationship with the number seven
Speaker 4: because of that. And so this seventh ray actually has
Speaker 4: this really interesting relationship I've read with this world axis,
Speaker 4: with this symbolic bridge that connects these different realms, because
Speaker 4: it represents the symbolic center of that system. And then
Speaker 4: even the rainbow itself represents what it represents a bridge,
Speaker 4: you know, in many ways, right, And so everyone with
Speaker 4: rainbow symbolism, they always consider what's at the end of
Speaker 4: the rainbow, right somewhere over the rainbow or the pot
Speaker 4: of gold at the end of the rainbow. You know,
Speaker 4: in Norse mythology we have the concept of the rainbow bridge, right,
Speaker 4: and so once again we're dealing with the number seven
Speaker 4: with the chariot card. And so it's interesting that some
Speaker 4: depictions of a braxis he's being pulled by four horses. Well,
Speaker 4: some depictions of the chariot card show the exact same thing,
Speaker 4: that he's being pulled by four horses. And so this
Speaker 4: is interesting as well because one of the things to
Speaker 4: consider is that these four horses actually represent the four elements,
Speaker 4: and so you have air, water, fire, and earth. So
Speaker 4: what that means is is that a braxis or the
Speaker 4: charioteer symbolically actually represents the fifth element, which would be
Speaker 4: spirit or ether. And so this is actually an old,
Speaker 4: old old sort of concept or sort of framework. And
Speaker 4: so you're actually going to see this in China as well,
Speaker 4: where an emperor is being pulled by four horses, and
Speaker 4: that in their system they openly acknowledge. I've read that
Speaker 4: these four horses do represent the four elements. Sometimes they're
Speaker 4: referred to as the four ethers as well. But it's
Speaker 4: the same sort of idea, and that the charioteer himself
Speaker 4: or the emperor himself represents the fifth element. And so
Speaker 4: when we're talking about the elements, the whole thing is
Speaker 4: that the four main elements that most people talk about
Speaker 4: all the time came from the fifth element. So we
Speaker 4: refer to it as the fifth element, but in actuality,
Speaker 4: it's the primordial first element that all of the elements
Speaker 4: came from. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Exactly, patient zero for sure, for sure, exactly.
Speaker 4: And so this is also replicated in most versions of
Speaker 4: the chariot card. So I don't know if you've ever noticed,
Speaker 4: or how much time you've ever looked at the cards, right,
Speaker 4: but the charioteer, he's in this enclosed space, you know,
Speaker 4: that is the chariot like body basically, right. So he's
Speaker 4: in a vehicle, and the tradition is to show him
Speaker 4: in between four posts, and so there's two behind him
Speaker 4: and two in front of him, and so these four
Speaker 4: posts hold up basically the canopy that is over the
Speaker 4: chariot itself, and so these four posts can easily be
Speaker 4: viewed as the four elements as well. And he's the
Speaker 4: center post, so he's basically that fifth point or represents
Speaker 4: the fifth element. You can also star exactly. That's it, man, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: So like in the right Way version, they make that
Speaker 4: very clear that in the right Way version, the canopy
Speaker 4: that's over his head is a blue canopy that's littered
Speaker 4: with stars, that has speckles of stars all over it,
Speaker 4: and so clearly they're alluding to the firmament, the night sky.
Speaker 4: And then in that version of the card, he actually
Speaker 4: has a star on top of his crown because symbolically
Speaker 4: he does represent the Pole Star. And so this is
Speaker 4: my understanding, is that a lot of ancient kings and
Speaker 4: emperors and lords actually had a reverence for the Pole Star,
Speaker 4: and they believe that they wanted to embody the exact
Speaker 4: same sort of symbolic dynamic that the polestar sort of
Speaker 4: exu dudes this calm in the middle of a storm,
Speaker 4: you know, in a way right, basically this tranquil, transcendental,
Speaker 4: immutable poll that basically gives you orientation. And that's a
Speaker 4: huge aspect of pollstar north star symbolism is that it
Speaker 4: gives you orientation. And so where do all compasses point?
Speaker 4: They point north right, and so it was really important
Speaker 4: to know where the north star was way back when
Speaker 4: if you at least knew where the pollstar was, you
Speaker 4: knew generally where you were going. And if you were
Speaker 4: using another constellation to determine where you were going, it
Speaker 4: only works in relation to the polestar. You need to
Speaker 4: know where that constellation is. That in relation to the polestar, basically, right,
Speaker 4: And so there are a number of old texts all
Speaker 4: over the world. I'm really I've been shocked that basically
Speaker 4: have this idea of the polestar having this like regal
Speaker 4: royal king life, like God likes sort of presence basically.
Speaker 4: And so this also relates to the idea that a
Speaker 4: lot of cultures, the king or emperor lord, they believe
Speaker 4: that they should rule from their center, from the center
Speaker 4: of self, which basically is how you commune with the heavens,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, or how you commune with the divine.
Speaker 4: Know thyself and you'll know the universe. It goes back
Speaker 4: to that, and there's a reason why so many people
Speaker 4: have basically said that the kingdom of heaven is within,
Speaker 4: you know, go to the still point within all these
Speaker 4: different types of things, right, that they wanted to rule
Speaker 4: from the center, and so a lot of times. This
Speaker 4: was even literally from the center of their empire or
Speaker 4: from the center of their kingdom.
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