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for a fa.

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Speaker 2: My health is.

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Speaker 1: Feel an eye your fears. Crying, little man tears, crying,

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goes on the blow, crying, goes on a bit of beach.

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A bitch with a sassa fid such a little backpack

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for the north flows, for the little olympus spree. Put

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on a little bit of lemon spree, a lemon spread

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on a lemon spray atty bed, feeling nor elfes.

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Speaker 3: Feeling only your fees.

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Speaker 1: Willow versus evil witch. That's a little song of bitch,

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willow versus huge.

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Speaker 4: Says a little bitch, says a little back says a

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little proto.

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Speaker 1: Back in the larger wood, back away in the wishle

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like a little limpus beard leanders puck a little limbus beard. Girls,

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good it mustard love with a hobby. Didn't you try

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to stop? Well, look at something.

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Speaker 3: Something?

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Speaker 5: Oh, the song is actually pretty awesome.

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Speaker 6: Forgot about this one thirty thousand chad thirty thousand chad nerds,

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thirty thousand can you hear meny nerds?

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Speaker 5: He ain't thirty thousand chad nerds anymore.

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Speaker 6: We're almost two hundred dollars of chatards, and then it's

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gonna be five hundred thousand, and it's gonna be a million.

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is a last song, and.

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Speaker 6: I we're tarting, y'all ready for the double seven depatm

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thirty thousand chad Nerds, thirty thousand chad Nerds, three hundred

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thousand chad Nerds. That's next up. Look how far we

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come from thirty thousand chad Nerds to three hundred thousand

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chad Nerds. I'm gonna say in a year or two

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worst case scenario. But I'm not Derek myth visions, so

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I don't have the ability to prophesize exactly how many

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followers I'll have. Oh wait a minute, his prophesizing failed,

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false prophet exposed. All right, it's open for him.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 6: I think I packed too many things in. I don't

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know if we're gonna be able to get to everything,

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but we'll take some calls. I'm gonna try to go

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through the next section of old Boys, the geopolitical text

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that I'm reading right now. As you guys know, we're

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reading through the history of the OSS and the CAA

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from the Council Form Relations itself, the official historian of

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that group or one of the Official Council Form Relation

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Member historians Burton. So that will be the next section

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that we work through. Let's take a couple of calls

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right away, since we've got people waiting. What's up, man, anything,

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anything you want to talk about. It's open for him, y'all.

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I just get to sit back and look pretty.

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Speaker 3: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 6: I can hear you.

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Speaker 9: It was I had a question about like related to

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like philosophy.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I was expecting to get in because.

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Speaker 4: It's sorry, because I don't know how these spaces.

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Speaker 6: Work, so like I wasn't expecting you to get in either,

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consider yourself.

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Speaker 4: So basically I've heard you.

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Speaker 9: Use You're talking about tag argument and you're like, oh,

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ultimately the laws of people, like ultimately, like argumentation becomes circular.

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a confronation or anything like that or like that you're

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making a fallacy, but I just want to know the difference.

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So you'll use that.

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Speaker 4: But then you'll like call out the Muslims and.

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Speaker 9: They hate is like you'll bring up your whiteboard so

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how like they're making a fallacy.

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Speaker 6: With Yeah, it's two different two different levels or tiers

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of philosophy. At the paradigm level, we're arguing that you

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can't escape being recursive or self referencing. So in other words,

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at a certain level, everybody's worldview will be ultimately self referencing.

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to where you can't appeal to any other higher authority.

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if you think about language, right, if I say, well,

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can you define language or explain how language works without

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using words? No, you can't. It's impossible. So there's something

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that at a certain point they become self referencing. That's

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not the same thing as the fallacy of circular reasoning.

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and corrupted, and we know this from the Quran, and

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a contradictory, you know, circular type of argument. That's not

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the same thing as saying at a certain level, all

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arguments become self referencing. Another example, logic, can you prove

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logic without assuming logic? No, because making an argument for

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logic assumes the thing in question. So that's why it's

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two different levels of argumentation. The circularity fallacy is usually

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at a more mundane level, or when it comes to

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it's like first order versus second order reasoning.

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Speaker 9: Gotcha, Okay, that makes more sense. Like I kind of

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viewed it that way, but you kind of put.

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Speaker 4: The words to it to make it make sense.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So appreciate a great question. Yeah, that's a question

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that comes up quite a bit. So a good one.

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But Buddha, Buddha, the Buddha's calling in y'all time to

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practice some detachment. Uh, why would y'all practice some detachments

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with the super chats with your wallet and support the

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streams through superchats. Superchats are done through your stream labs,

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or you can do it natively through YouTube as well.

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What's up? Hello, am I? You are you are here?

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Speaker 10: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Let's go?

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Speaker 11: Okay, So I want to challenge you on an idea, right,

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So I love Jesus, I do love the teachings of

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Buddho too. I know that may seem contradictory to you,

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but I want to.

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Speaker 3: Know where from the Gospels that Jesus is calling himself

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ontologically God.

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Speaker 6: I don't see that. You want to know?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like like I don't understand, like, for instance, he I.

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Speaker 6: Want to know what love is. I want you to

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show me what love is.

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Speaker 5: I want to know what love is.

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Speaker 2: What show.

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Speaker 12: Uh?

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Speaker 6: So have you read Have you read John One?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I have. But I don't think that that's saying that

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Jesus is solo God.

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Speaker 6: Well he's not. He's not solo God because the word

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God is a generic term and can be used for

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different things. So for example, God the Father is also

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called God. The Holy Spirit is called God, and so likewise,

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Jesus is calling himself in John one, the son of

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the Father, who is identical to him in nature but

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different from him in terms of a person or hypostasis.

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Speaker 11: But John one is not written by Jesus, and that's

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not what he said, like when he's quoted like for instance,

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Speaker 6: You understand that nothing is written by Jesus. No, but

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let me explaence you right, but hold on, but slow

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down because you understand that jesusn't actually write anything that

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we know of. You understand that I.

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Speaker 4: Think quotes from him in the Gospel contradicted there.

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Speaker 6: Who wrote the quotes? So first of all, who wrote

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Speaker 4: Okay, but it doesn't matter who I'm saying Jesus.

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Speaker 6: If it doesn't matter, then it does doesn't matter that

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he didn't write anything. So that just destroyed your own argument.

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Speaker 4: No, you're not even letting me say what Jesus is.

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to let you move on until you

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stop making fallacious arguments. So does it matter who wrote

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it or not?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 6: Okay, So if Jesus didn't write down the parts that

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you're saying that Jesus said, then that undercuts your argument.

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Speaker 11: No, it doesn't, because I believe that people who wrote

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it down were writing what he really said.

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Speaker 6: Okay, then you have to believe John One because that's

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the same author of the other parts that Jesus.

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Speaker 3: Said that contradiction you what. Okay?

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Speaker 9: So he says God the Father knows everything, and I

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don't know everything he.

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Speaker 6: Says he doesn't. So hold on one text at a time,

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one text at a time. And John One, you just

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said that you do believe John's testimony. He says that

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the Son is Stop interrupting me. He says, the Son

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is the Word of the Father and is God. Yeah, Christ,

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this is too stupid to even wait. We're not We're done.

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So this is not ara. It's not a rational person. Again,

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if you come in with like multiple fallacies within the

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first five twenty seconds, we're done. It's not a rational person.

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Can't get any more with that person. Tzar, what's up?

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So again, Christ is a specific term from Hebrew theology.

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Christ means the anointed one, the Mahiach, the Messiah. There

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are not many Messiahs, not many Christs. The Buddha is

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not a Christ because it doesn't even make sense because

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it's not a Buddhist term. What's up, man? What are

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you banging? Ship? What's going on? Its busy?

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Speaker 4: As something?

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Speaker 6: A good?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, just want there is something that I wanted to

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ask about.

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Speaker 4: In terms of geopositive.

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Speaker 6: It has to do with Orthodox Ya. He wasn't to

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talk about that, Okay, get to it.

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Speaker 13: So I do understand that the patriarch in Constantinople granted

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Ortoseephony to the schismatic Church in Ukraine and whatnot but

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I notice an issue because I'm from South Africa, and

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not an issue that the Mission of South Africa is

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headed by the patriarch in Alexandria.

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Speaker 4: That's his jurisdiction.

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Speaker 13: We're seeing Russian jurisdiction coming into Africa without what would

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be the word approval from the Alexandrian patriarch, so much

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so that they're even paying off Greek bishop of Greek

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priests and deacons to work as Russian priest and deacons

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rather than the Greeks.

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Speaker 4: Do you know anything about that?

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Speaker 14: No?

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Speaker 6: But I mean there's always been these jurisdictional squabbles and problems,

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but the real person who's that fault here is the

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patriarch Constantinople. And if you go to the Union of

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Orthodox Journalist's website, they just posted a bunch of things

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on that today exposing Bartholomew Todd. What's up, toad? Excuse me, toad,

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the wet sprocket, what's up?

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Speaker 3: Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 15: I just wanted to kind of respond to that Buddha guy,

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if that's okay.

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Speaker 4: And explain why we don't struggle with the whole is.

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Speaker 16: Jesus God thing or.

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Speaker 6: If that's okay, with you, Okay, just make it quick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Sure.

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Speaker 15: So you know, when you look at worship, it requires sacrifice.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't mean killing an animal.

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Speaker 15: And you look at worship, it's offering hospitality to a deity.

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Speaker 6: The Eucharist kind of flips that on its head.

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Speaker 15: Christ offers us the Eucharist with the authority of God.

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It's his alter, it's his table, it's his body.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't have to say I am God.

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Speaker 15: Because he offers himself as God to us. That's more

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of a definitive statement than anything else that he could

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Speaker 6: Well, he verbalized it multiple times, saying I am. I

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mean every time he shays I am. In the Book

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of John, he's affirming his deity. John, what's up? Man?

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Before Abraham was I am? And he makes himself equal

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to the Father in John eight and they want to

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stone him. What's up? John?

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Speaker 17: I just wanted to point out one thing you You

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actually just created a new argument. And you said he

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was making a phelic argument. Uh.

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Speaker 6: Yes, all bad arguments are phelic arguments because they suck.

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All right, we're getting too we're getting to rated RI,

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we're getting rated R. Gotta stop. Who's next? John? Feel free?

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To stay on, Isaac, Isaac Hayes, what's up? We got

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all these weird, weird bands calling in. We had Toad

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the Wetsprocket. Isaac Hayes, what's up?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Can hear?

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Speaker 6: I want to know what love is?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 18: So I kind of have like a hermetic transcendental argument,

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and I figure if anyone could dismantle it, it'd probably

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be youlling.

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Speaker 6: Are you trolling? Are you trolling? Are you serious?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 6: I'm like, dead serious, dead serious. Okay, what's your hermetic

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transcendent argument?

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Speaker 4: So in the first book of the Hermetic.

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is yeah, okay, there is this or I guess it

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describes a trinity within there. And since this is written

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in antiquity, it is at the very least contemporary with

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Speaker 6: So they yeah, but you know, under the trinity comes

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from the Torah, not from the Christian writings.

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Speaker 4: I mean sure, I guess, Okay.

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Speaker 6: So it doesn't matter temporarily. Then this would be after

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the Trinity doctrine, because that's a Juda doctrine.

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Speaker 4: I guess that influence wouldn't really make a difference.

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the Old Testament as well, But anyway.

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Speaker 6: My point with that is that.

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Speaker 19: The trinity indrace is it allows for multiplicity, so it

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doesn't evolve into total monism or.

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Speaker 6: You know, standard Yeah, but the way that we make

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the transcenal argument is not that there's a minimal amount

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of necessary attributes. It's all of the attributes that are

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necessary for a specific deity. So you can't ground it

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in neoplatonism, which is what I think you're you're going

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for here with Well, well, here's a couple attributes that

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are shared between two different triads. It's a vastly different triad.

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you're talking about.

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Speaker 19: I I would just I don't think all of them do,

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because my stance is not purely neoplatonic.

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Speaker 6: Okay, is the world created or is it an eternal emanation? Okay?

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Is the world created or is it an eternal emanation?

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Speaker 4: I know the world is created?

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Speaker 6: What's it?

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Speaker 10: X neilo.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you're saying the corpus hermaticum teaches hermatica, teaches

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ex creation X neilo. I've never heard that.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying that one could interpret it that way.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, uh has anyone ever interpreted that way? Or this

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your novel interpretation?

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Speaker 19: I mean, yeah, no, it is a novel interpretation. But

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I don't see about that would matter like Pilo.

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Speaker 6: Well, because in order to derive the Christian theological teachings,

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it's not divorced from history. So the fact that you're

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two thousand years later having a novel interpretation of the

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Harmatica to try to find what are specifically uh Judaic

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and Christian teachings about creation x nilo would be a

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defeat for what you're coming up with. I mean, you're

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just copying and pasting.

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Speaker 4: I mean again, I don't think so. I could argue

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that you're you, well not you personally, but.

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Speaker 19: You know Christianity, or I guess Judaism had copied Plato

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and then expanded upon that.

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Speaker 6: How did Judaism copy Plato when when Moses is far

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earlier than Plato. Where's your where's the proof that Judaism copied.

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Speaker 4: Plays existed in the first place?

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Speaker 6: All right, here we go, sure you this is too stupid? Yeah,

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good job too. All right, who's next? Tendall?

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Speaker 17: Let's you know on that on that note, is that

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in the Pelicon, in the Pelanicon.

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Speaker 6: Book, he's hush, he's talking.

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Speaker 17: Go ahead, John, I was saying in the Pelicon book

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on the Catholic tradition, Uh huh, he actually says that

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there there's people who speculate that the Greeks might have

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borrowed from the Old Testament.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, the Early Church, the early Church fathers

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argue this. Aaron As argues that, Justin Marter argues it. So, yeah,

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it's just a very arbitrary to just assume that everything

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that the Greeks had, you know, the Christians ripped off. Well,

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there's actually a symbiotic relationship with like Christian philosophy in

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a Patristic era era and uh, you know, Greek philosophy.

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But you could argue that, yeah, Filo was hellenized. But

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to then hands your argument on maybe Moses never existed, Well, okay,

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maybe you know, it's far less likely that Hermes Trismagistus

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existed other than Moses. So that's a bad line of argument, Tendall,

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what's up.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I was wondering if you could do Karence mckinna

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talking about how Plato could have came before Moses.

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Speaker 21: Yes, well, we are relying on a lot of Judaic interpretations,

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and if you're familiar with Jewish rabbinical thought, it's misogynistic,

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especially in the writings of Solomon, and Solomon had many wives,

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which produced his misogyny, and that's what led them to

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come to the conclusion that they were suppressing women and

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suppressing polyamorous relationships.

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Speaker 6: Ecumenical, boy, what's up? That is probably that that literally

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sounds like some kind of bullshit turns McKenna would actually argue,

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what's up, man, A fool?

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Speaker 10: I'm just saying, as a Mexican, like, what do you

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think of all this ice stuff?

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Speaker 3: Full? Like, I don't know how to feel full?

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Speaker 6: You talk about vanilla eyes. By the way, I was

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the first person to make that joke, and then everybody

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ripped off my mem Now I think, look, I look.

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I've been a longtime member of the vip Posse. I

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joined the vip Posse when I was in sixth grade.

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I went as no Ice for Halloween in sixth grade.

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I've always been a fan of Robert van Winkle. He

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was the o g Wigger. So when it comes to Ice,

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I'm on board, dude, Ice Ice baby Darius, what's up?

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Speaker 3: This?

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Speaker 6: Better be a brother. It's better be a fellow bipop person.

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If I see a profile named Darius and it comes

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up and it ain't a Persian or a brother, I'm out.

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Speaker 3: He j Can you hear me?

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Speaker 6: You don't sound black, can you hear me, Jake?

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Speaker 22: Yes?

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Speaker 4: So basically I had some question in regarding to Orthodoxy.

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Speaker 14: Okay, one question, Yeah, but I need to kind of

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give you a brief history where we.

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Speaker 6: Don't have time for a brief history. Ask your question.

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Come on, I'm gonna hurry you today.

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Speaker 14: I'm getting serious about Orthodoxy, so I need some advice

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or what steps to get because I was an Orthodox,

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but I when I moved to Germany, I basically became

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Protestant for Evangelical and I left the church like two

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years ago, and now I'm getting interested in.

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Speaker 6: Orthodox I can Okay, what's your question?

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Speaker 14: Like how I heard the arguments from your YouTube channel

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also from caire the guy is called Yeah, you know,

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I'm also a teading your MENIU Orthodox Church because I'm

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from Moldova.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and yeah, I just want to ask, like are

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there some books or some things I need to get into?

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Speaker 23: Uh?

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, well our Protestant background. I would say, get

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a hold of doctor Clark Carlton's book. There's a three

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volume trilogy, The Way, the Truth, and the Life. I

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want to say that the I forget the name of

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the which whatever volume I read this like fifteen years ago.

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One of the volumes is directed towards Protestant evangelical mindsets.

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So I'd say get a hold of Clark Carlton's book.

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I would say, get a hold of Vladimir Lawski's book

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Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church, and pretty much anything

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for the most part that Lawsky writes is good. So

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I would start there, and then you know, check out

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Athanacious on the Incarnation and the five theological Orations of

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the Cappadocians. What's up, man, I want to know who

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would love pease? I want you to show me. I'm mute, dude,

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cruising for a braison, I'm mute. Crusader of truth, I'm mute.

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Speaker 1: I want to know I love is a water show.

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Speaker 6: Nobody knows these Boomer songs, Crusader, do you want to

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talk or not? Man? All right? Moving on, Dmitri, Dmitri,

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I'm mute, Guys, when you come up, just unmute yourselves. Man,

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we've been doing this.

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Speaker 3: You heard Oh man, can I just ask you? Oh

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my gosh, No, it's aorry about that.

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Speaker 8: But amen, you're the first one who I heard about,

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one of the first about the.

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Speaker 3: Younger of Christians.

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Speaker 4: With Kyle, I was wondering, have you heard about a

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ten that was.

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Speaker 6: The first one who really showed me about Young Earth?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've known about him for a long time. What

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about it?

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Speaker 9: Oh, I'm just curious on your opinion, and what about

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Andrew Wilson on the I'm not liking a Younger of

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creationist or ridiculous.

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Speaker 6: I haven't talked to Andrew about his position on Young Earth,

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but I actually agree that most of the Young Earth

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creationists are a bunch of goober tards so ken Ham

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Ken Hooven. I mean, they're terrible representatives. They're absolute goofballs.

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So I wish that we had better, better presenters of

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those kinds of positions. Connor, what's up?

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Speaker 4: I really had one question, and it would be what

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is your fun? What is your opinion about idealism?

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Speaker 3: And can I cohere with.

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Speaker 21: The world?

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Speaker 6: Is not an ideal construct construct? We're not Platonists. We're

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not Hegelians. There is an external world. There is matter.

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For example, in many places in the Patristic writings and

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in the Ecumenical councils. We know that Jesus took on matter.

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I'm aware that you could say, oh, well, maybe the

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matter is also an idea.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 6: So there's never been in the history of the Orthodox

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Church anybody teaching idealism, and in fact it's really just

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platonism ultimately, and Platonism is condemned multiple places in the

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Church of Fathers and in the councils, particularly the Sonoticon

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condemns it many times over. You will try again, let's see.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 6: No, if you already came up, don't I'm going not

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going to you. JT. What's up?

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Speaker 3: Who I want to know? Who I love? Is a

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want to show me?

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Speaker 6: Not really, I'm not sexting with you guys in the

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chat did not want any of you to show me

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what love is. What's up?

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Speaker 16: Man?

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Speaker 6: JT A.

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Speaker 24: Junie for Wilson of Bulls that debates are more for

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like convincing the audience.

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Speaker 4: Rather than the person you're debating than I might just

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dumb to know why, because it seems like if you

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can convince your opponent. That would be the most convincing.

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Speaker 6: Things because most of the time people that go into debates,

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ninety nine percent of the time are not there to

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be corrected or to learn the truth. So it's just

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a practical observation. It's not saying that we never want

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to convert the opponent. Of course, we want to convert

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the opponent. In fact, the opponent is part of the audience.

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When you're speaking in the debate, the opponent is also

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a part of the audience. So yeah, we would want

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to convert them. But ninety nine percent of the time

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you're not going to convert your opponent. The debate is

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for the audience. Solid snake, what's up? Oh no, no, no,

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what love isn't.

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Speaker 17: O?

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Speaker 12: Jay?

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Speaker 3: I love your videos.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for everything.

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Speaker 6: Okay, here comes now. When when it begins with a compliment,

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usually means I'm in for hillacious nonsense, So give me

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all of why. I'm a massive you know, piece of craft.

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Speaker 3: Jay.

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Speaker 6: I like you, Okay, That's all I care about is

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people like me. I just want to be liked.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm orthodox. I like your videos.

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Speaker 6: I just want to know what love is. Go ahead,

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I love you.

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Speaker 17: Is that it?

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Speaker 6: Okay?

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Speaker 17: All right?

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Speaker 24: Kick me off?

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Speaker 3: Kick me off?

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Speaker 24: Please.

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Speaker 6: I don't get what people think. It's like, where's the

472
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,839
joke and don't get it. I want to know what

473
00:32:42,079 --> 00:32:43,920
David is. What's up, David? I'm here?

474
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 25: Hello?

475
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:50,319
Speaker 6: Are you calling me from a shower?

476
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:54,119
Speaker 5: I'm about to show me what love is right now.

477
00:32:54,119 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 6: I'm in a factory, a shower factory. What's up?

478
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: Thanks for everything?

479
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 22: I'm going going a liturgy for about a month now.

480
00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 6: But I have a dudes in the You calling me

481
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:11,720
from the dance You calling me from the noise factory?

482
00:33:11,759 --> 00:33:12,720
Is that where they make noise?

483
00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:14,359
Speaker 5: Yeah?

484
00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 6: Well we make plans for two?

485
00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:16,559
Speaker 8: Am I bowing?

486
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:17,279
Speaker 26: Oh?

487
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:23,759
Speaker 6: Okay? David Bowie Okay, he's working in the David Bowie Factory.

488
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:30,079
He's making cool of up god music. What's up? Actual question?

489
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:38,160
And then he drops off bro the uh Dick Dick

490
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:43,440
Cheney's ah, he's faffing up the signal. Dog. He's over

491
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,200
there working in the Boeing factory, and Dick Cheney's up

492
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,559
there in the control room shutting down the signal. Josie,

493
00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:55,799
what's up? I want to work in the David Bowie factory.

494
00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:57,240
I don't know it sounds that might be a little

495
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:01,839
a little weird. What would you get paid if you

496
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,759
worked in the David Bowie Factor, where you get paid

497
00:34:03,799 --> 00:34:05,200
in glitter or some weird shit? What's up?

498
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 8: Man?

499
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,359
Speaker 27: That was up?

500
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,599
Speaker 3: Jay? I just had a quick question, real quick.

501
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, why don't you ask me? I'm orthodox about that.

502
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: I just made that clear.

503
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: I was introduced to well, I ran into a Instagram

504
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,920
post essentially just take a talking nonsense about how Judaism

505
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:24,360
and therefore Christianity just.

506
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: Evolves from this kN Knight religion. Yah wism.

507
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: I was wondering what your thoughts on that.

508
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,679
Speaker 3: Have you ever heard the argument before?

509
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's been going around, That's been going around for

510
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:40,480
thirty years. First of all, the way that the Canaanite

511
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:45,920
storm God is presented bears no similarities at all to

512
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:48,360
the way that the God of the Scriptures is presented.

513
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,559
And I do not like William Lane Craig, but he

514
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:53,840
does have one good book on this very topic, and

515
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,920
it's called Creation ex Nilo. And in that book he

516
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,519
goes through the Torah and basically presents all the ways

517
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:03,119
in which the essential attributes and characteristics of the God

518
00:35:03,159 --> 00:35:07,000
of the Bible are contrasted to the sort of zeitgeist

519
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,800
lowest commonnominator approach that you hear from that kind of

520
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,519
a level of argumentation. So it's called creation. Next elo

521
00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:20,639
by Wimland Craig, what's up, Brave Heart? We got William

522
00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:27,480
Wallace in the chat what's up Dog? There are similarities

523
00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:34,360
between Bail and Allah. Well, Look, similarities is not the

524
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:39,599
same thing as identity. You can find similarity between any object.

525
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,239
And again this goes back to the word concept fallacy.

526
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,880
It goes back to the way that idiotic conspiracy people

527
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:49,719
misinterpret things the way evangelicals interpret you know, Alexander Hislop. Look,

528
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,159
the Pope has a fish hat, that's the Babylonian hat

529
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:56,960
because it's a similar shape. Similar shapes does not mean

530
00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:02,079
the same reference. Similar symbol doesn't mean the same reference. Again,

531
00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:06,719
the lion of the tribe of Judah and Satan walking

532
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,639
around like a lion seeking human man devour, while guess

533
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,079
that means that Jesus is Satan. That's literally the Charles

534
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:17,800
Manson Schitzo level interpretation. And this is the same approach

535
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:23,360
that evangelicals and conspiracy towards use. It's the same reference

536
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,920
because it's the same thing, and it's the same way

537
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,880
that Schizo's operates. Schizo's think that the same thing is

538
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:37,039
a metaphysical reference. The apple in the garden, apple computers.

539
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:41,239
Therefore Apple Computers was in the garden. No, that's a nod,

540
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,599
that's a fallacy. And Candae is only like one week

541
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:47,760
away from that. What's up, Brave New World, brave heart whatever.

542
00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:52,000
I'm you hi, first time.

543
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 28: Here for me.

544
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 23: I have a kind of a going back question regarding

545
00:36:56,159 --> 00:36:59,800
Erica Kirk and what you had discernment said to you

546
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,960
when you saw her and kneel next.

547
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:11,199
Speaker 3: To the coffin of Kirk Charlie Kirk. I mean, did anything.

548
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 6: Captain Kirk are you talking about? Hold on, are you saying?

549
00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:17,000
Are you saying she kneeled next to the coffin of

550
00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:17,679
Captain Kirk?

551
00:37:18,519 --> 00:37:23,119
Speaker 23: Sorry, I mispoked Charlie Kirk, her husband. So when she

552
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:28,000
kneeled down and was doing that video, what did your

553
00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:33,960
senses discernment, Holy Spirit, experience, et cetera, et cetera.

554
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 3: What went often you?

555
00:37:35,639 --> 00:37:40,079
Speaker 23: Because that is when I knew there was no question

556
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,800
there's something wrong. And it just doesn't seem like you guys,

557
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:50,320
the big, the big, you know, Alex you Nick. Nobody

558
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,119
seems to care about that, really, And I just don't understand.

559
00:37:54,199 --> 00:37:58,159
Speaker 3: And I'm confused because I respect you. I'm learning a

560
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,519
lot by you. I'm a longtime Christian.

561
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:05,679
Speaker 23: I'm not orthodox, However, I believe I have good discernment.

562
00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:10,239
I've been in the Bible for twenty five years self study.

563
00:38:11,519 --> 00:38:15,119
Speaker 3: I love God. And there's something wrong with that woman.

564
00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:19,480
So why don't you care? Why don't you be a

565
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:24,119
voice and stand up? It's Charlie Kirk.

566
00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, Well I'll say this. When I saw that,

567
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I was about two boxes deep into phronsia, and it

568
00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:39,599
was specifically the uh you know, the cherry flavor of phronsia.

569
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And I probably wasn't able to function rationally when I

570
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saw it because I was so deep into phronsia and

571
00:38:48,199 --> 00:38:49,880
then when I woke up from my fronsia.

572
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Speaker 10: But I don't know what you mean.

573
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 25: What does that mean?

574
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:53,119
Speaker 3: Phronsia?

575
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,639
Speaker 6: You're not familiar with boxwe No.

576
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Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm sixty four years old, I'm a grandmother.

577
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Help me out here.

578
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Speaker 6: There's no way that a grandmother is not familiar with phronsia.

579
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Speaker 3: Is it a flavor of ice cream? What is it?

580
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Speaker 6: I suppose you could technically freeze it. I have been

581
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,719
to places where they freeze box wine, so that's serious.

582
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,639
Speaker 3: I'm trying to I don't know what that means. What

583
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:19,519
are you talking about?

584
00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:23,679
Speaker 6: I'm talking about box wine, probably the premiere brand of

585
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:24,320
box wine.

586
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 3: Actually, what is box one? I don't know what that means?

587
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 5: Box?

588
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:32,079
Speaker 3: I really don't know.

589
00:39:33,039 --> 00:39:34,519
Speaker 6: W I any wine?

590
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: Oh wine, box wine? Sorry I didn't hear you. Okay, wine,

591
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:40,800
thank you, thank you?

592
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 6: All right, So tell me your favorite flavor of phronsia

593
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before we continue.

594
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Speaker 3: I don't drink phronsie.

595
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 23: If I have a glass of wine is at a

596
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,760
restaurant and I spend way too much for one glass.

597
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 3: So all right, let's just leave it at that. So

598
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can we can we just continue?

599
00:39:57,159 --> 00:39:59,519
Speaker 6: What if? But what if saw her?

600
00:39:59,719 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 3: Like?

601
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 6: What if the if the restaurant anybody.

602
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: Could have seen it?

603
00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 23: My four year old grandson could have figured it out.

604
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,159
Speaker 6: But what if the restaurant serves phronsia that you go to?

605
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:11,679
What would you do?

606
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 12: Then?

607
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:12,159
Speaker 3: Okay?

608
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:17,159
Speaker 23: Whatever, listen, I don't want I really, I am really serious.

609
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: When I wanted, I respect you, jay, I want to know,

610
00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:25,239
heart to heart, to me and to grandmother. What the

611
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,440
hell were you thinking when she was doing that bullshit?

612
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 6: I want to know Come on, I want to know

613
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,639
what love is. I want you to show me.

614
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 3: Okay, love.

615
00:40:41,639 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 29: For me?

616
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 12: Come on, I don't want This is not therapy, man,

617
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:50,320
I want to know what a man is Orthodox Christian

618
00:40:50,639 --> 00:40:55,760
who's been through Catholicism, Protestantism, the Bible, back and forth.

619
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,599
Speaker 3: I read twenty thousand books. What were you thinking when

620
00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:03,400
she was kneeling there? What was your spirit telling you?

621
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 6: I was thinking, I want to know what love is.

622
00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:20,800
I want you to show me. Oh man, uh look, okay,

623
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,360
I'm gonna be serious now. So where did you get

624
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:29,840
the idea that I'm somehow a TPUSA apologist or Erica

625
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,400
chirch apologist. This is what I don't understand why people

626
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,519
who are so attuned to their discernment that they can't

627
00:41:36,599 --> 00:41:40,639
understand that I've been critiquing evangelical black ops churches for

628
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,000
ten years publicly in podcasts. In fact, the guy next

629
00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:47,639
to you on the space right now, I did podcasts

630
00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:50,400
with him ten years ago on the very topic of

631
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:54,039
evangelical black ops churches. So where did you come up

632
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:57,679
with the ridiculous idea that Number one, I believe all

633
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,599
of the mainstream stories. And number two that I don't

634
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:13,599
question TPUSA or something like that. Are you there? So again,

635
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,880
perfect example of the quandas audience right there.

636
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 17: Well, the problem is once again, and let me just

637
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:31,199
say that I probably am a little bit more sympathetic

638
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,840
towards Candice than Jay is, but even that, you have

639
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,440
to use discernment when listening to something like that. And

640
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,679
once again he's pointing out that we were talking about

641
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:50,039
this way way before anybody else was, and just because

642
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,159
the unfortunate murder of Charlie Kirk.

643
00:42:57,159 --> 00:42:58,199
Speaker 3: Now this has been.

644
00:42:58,119 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 17: Brought into the spotlight, But I mean when you were

645
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,519
talking about it, when nobody cared about it.

646
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,079
Speaker 6: Exactly. And now I have to hear all of these

647
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:13,280
wine moms and soccer moms know it all spouting out

648
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:18,719
and pontificating to me about this topic. It drives me crazy.

649
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,280
Two months ago, candae OANs and the evangelical Black Ops, Business,

650
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,039
Churches Technocracy Courtney Turner returns with me. This is two

651
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:32,599
months ago an entire almost three hour podcast on this

652
00:43:33,159 --> 00:43:39,079
very subject. So again, I don't understand why people can't

653
00:43:39,079 --> 00:43:42,719
figure out that I don't like either one of them.

654
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,119
And if you can't see that everything Candace is saying

655
00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:51,039
about all this nonsense the last three months is absolute

656
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,400
ridiculous bullshit. I can't help you. Go back to the phronsia.

657
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,800
What's up theology something?

658
00:43:58,079 --> 00:43:58,199
Speaker 20: Yo?

659
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 6: So bro, what's up?

660
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: So?

661
00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 24: Last time I was on here, right, I was talking about.

662
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,199
Speaker 4: Under determination. So I just wanted to know a few things.

663
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 30: So I wanted to know how creationism can predict the

664
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:14,239
data just.

665
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 6: As well as doesn't predict data, it predicts the thesis.

666
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,920
In other words, for example, why would we see similar

667
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:29,679
DNA between a monkey and a human being. Well, the

668
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,639
evolutionary model says it's because of a common ancestor the

669
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,760
creation model says it's a common creator. So both models

670
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,800
can accurately explain the data.

671
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 30: Right, So then if that's the case, why would you posit.

672
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:45,039
Speaker 4: Yours over the other?

673
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,679
Speaker 6: Dude? I don't. I think you don't understand what underdetermination

674
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,360
of data means. All it means is that data itself

675
00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:55,920
doesn't tell you the paradigm, so you have to go

676
00:44:56,119 --> 00:44:59,239
to the paradigm level. So I would critique the evolutionist

677
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:04,039
paradigm depending upon what paradigma specific evolutionist has, whether they're atheistic,

678
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:07,079
one or an atheistic one. The whole point of underdetermination

679
00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:11,119
of data is that scientism proponents, for example, when they

680
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,159
point to more peer review studies or whatever, none of

681
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:15,719
the peer of you studies are ever going to tell

682
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,760
you which paradigm is true, because it's a paradigm level argument.

683
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:19,320
That's the point.

684
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 30: And do you think that that also could play into

685
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,079
the idea of how bruff facts don't exist?

686
00:45:29,039 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 6: It is related to that, but again that's a kind

687
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:37,599
of a separate epistemic issue. I mean, the reason that

688
00:45:37,639 --> 00:45:41,880
brute facts don't exist is that we all interpret reality

689
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,000
through our paradigm. So we call this some philosophy theory

690
00:45:46,119 --> 00:45:49,960
laden that everything that exists, all facts or objects or whatever,

691
00:45:50,079 --> 00:45:53,280
are theory laden. That's the point of that term. So

692
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,920
it's a both and there's it's related question.

693
00:45:57,079 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 3: Uh huh.

694
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 30: So do you know anything about hermautical foundationalism?

695
00:46:04,679 --> 00:46:06,199
Speaker 6: I mean, I know what herma utics is and I

696
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,679
know what foundationalism is, so I don't know specifically what

697
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:10,039
that is.

698
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 30: I just wanted to know because like, how would you, like,

699
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,599
how do you think herman utics placements has hacked when

700
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:19,760
it comes to like how understanding is transcendent to.

701
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Speaker 6: Knowledge and meaning understanding is transcendent to knowledge. I don't

702
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even know what that means. I mean, hermautics is the

703
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,880
science of interpretation. So for example, when you interpret the Bible,

704
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:35,719
there's different theories on hermautic approaches, right, like typological approach,

705
00:46:36,119 --> 00:46:40,639
grammatical historical approach, et cetera. That's what hermautics is. Hermautics

706
00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:45,400
of hermaeutical foundationalism sounds like the idea that there would

707
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,400
be basic, self evident principles about how I would go

708
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,320
about interpreting this or that text. So again it's related.

709
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:57,840
But again I think you're kind of mixing up terms there, numadicos.

710
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,760
What's up? Are we buying bitcoin at this level? Yes,

711
00:47:02,159 --> 00:47:05,679
so a lot of people are freaking out. We had

712
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:08,000
a pullback. Ivan had a good talk on it. He says,

713
00:47:08,159 --> 00:47:09,840
he thinks it it may go back to the two

714
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,000
hundred week moving average, which would be around sixty. And

715
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:16,480
I'm not worried, no, I mean, I expected the next

716
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,719
time we went into a bull market we would go down.

717
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,119
And Ivan's usually right, so it probably will hit the

718
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,440
two in a week moving average worst case scenario, which

719
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,039
would be in the sixties. But hey, that's that makes

720
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:31,840
it much more easier to get a hold of one

721
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,960
BTC when it's in the sixties. If you're new to bitcoin,

722
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,039
you're one. Oh, I want to get into it. I

723
00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:39,880
want to start. Okay, we'll be thankful that. I mean, look,

724
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,119
if bigcoin was that two hundred and listen, all the

725
00:47:43,159 --> 00:47:48,199
gold boomers are like doing their victory dances. Bitcoin usually

726
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,960
pops off after gold has a run. That's the historical precedent,

727
00:47:53,079 --> 00:47:57,199
and of course historical president isn't a infallible guide for markets,

728
00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:02,039
but usually when bitcoin or usually gold has a run

729
00:48:02,119 --> 00:48:05,679
before bigcoin. So no, I'm not worried, and no, I'm

730
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,519
not selling any big win for gold, not at all.

731
00:48:09,639 --> 00:48:11,480
What's up? Yeah, let's who's next?

732
00:48:11,639 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 8: Up?

733
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? What's up? Jay?

734
00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:14,199
Speaker 6: Hey?

735
00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:18,039
Speaker 3: Hey, I just wanted to, you know, first time call.

736
00:48:18,119 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 22: I just wanted to express gratitude to you, you know,

737
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:26,719
for guys like you, Burmus, fucking Richard Grove, Alex Jones,

738
00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:29,480
Like if I didn't find you guys, when I found.

739
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 3: You, I would be like, I just want to address that,

740
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:32,199
braveheart lady.

741
00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 22: I think the problem is that a lot of people,

742
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,159
you know, they hear Candice and they get mixed up

743
00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:40,000
and they don't realize they're like fresh to the red pill,

744
00:48:40,519 --> 00:48:43,239
and then their whole brain gets melted by everything is

745
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,280
a conspiracy and they don't have the ability to like

746
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,960
sift through shit and understand how intelligence operations work and

747
00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:52,400
psyops and everything.

748
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 3: It's so deep.

749
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,559
Speaker 22: And I'm so grateful for guys like you and Richard

750
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,079
and Burmis who were able to help me through that

751
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,440
period where you could fall off a fucking cliff with

752
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:05,159
this shit, or you could start reading books and learn

753
00:49:05,199 --> 00:49:08,360
about what's really going on. And I have empathy for

754
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,239
ladies like that because their minds are just getting blown

755
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,599
these days and they have no idea.

756
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,119
Speaker 3: How to parse through it. So I just want to

757
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:17,719
say thanks for what you do and for helping me.

758
00:49:18,519 --> 00:49:20,559
And that's about it.

759
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,519
Speaker 6: Thank you man. Again. Again, we do have to remember,

760
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:25,480
and I was just joking. Got to remember when you

761
00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:28,239
call into this thing here, I joke around a lot.

762
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,239
It's good natured ribbing. We're having fun. Don't take it seriously.

763
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:43,039
We all have that bell curve phase of awakening, you know,

764
00:49:43,159 --> 00:49:45,360
when you first get into this kind of material, it's

765
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,480
very jarring, and it's kind of like the phases of

766
00:49:48,599 --> 00:49:51,599
grief or whatever. You know where you're like, you're upset,

767
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,400
you're shocked. Then you question everything, everything's a conspiracy, and

768
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,199
then you kind of are susceptible to believing everything. Oh,

769
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,480
maybe it's the Aliens, Maybe it's the Tartarians, it's the Pleadeans.

770
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,440
So you go through these phases and then you kind

771
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,159
of immediately assume everything is part of the Grand narrative,

772
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,679
and the reality is that it's it's it's both and right,

773
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:18,840
it's it's more nuanced than that. There are intelligence operations,

774
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,480
but the CIA doesn't run everything. Israeli operations are influential,

775
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:28,639
they don't run everything. The Masons have had a very

776
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:33,800
powerful historical influence. They're not running everything. Kulture is real.

777
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,159
Not everybody is an mk ulture Delta Assassin sex program. Okay,

778
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,760
I mean there's just a learning curve that we go through.

779
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:47,880
Go ahead, John, and and all of.

780
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,519
Speaker 17: Those things are not necessarily all tied together in one

781
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:52,079
big bow.

782
00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:55,519
Speaker 6: Also, yeah, that's the grand narrative idea?

783
00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 8: Is that?

784
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:56,079
Speaker 30: Ah?

785
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 6: Yes, so I studied. Here's a question right here at

786
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,639
super chat, what do you think of p I z

787
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:06,199
z A gait. Well, in my opinion, there were probably

788
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:12,199
some underhanded, nasty activities, perhaps a CP going on allegedly

789
00:51:12,519 --> 00:51:14,719
perhaps I don't know. I'm not accusing anyone of that

790
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,199
because I can't approof of that, but it does seem

791
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,519
very suspicious. However, I don't think there was a k

792
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:27,159
I L L room, you know, eight millimeters style. But

793
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,679
you notice that a lot of people latched onto that

794
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,280
event and it became everything and then every and that

795
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,599
came out of Q Q crap if you remember that.

796
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,480
And I said day one that Q was a sye off.

797
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,519
To me, it bore all the marks of limited hangout disinformation,

798
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:47,639
that kind of stuff. But I think which I was

799
00:51:47,679 --> 00:51:48,360
going to point.

800
00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:50,079
Speaker 16: Out in light of the.

801
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,599
Speaker 4: You know, in light of the Charlie Kirk stuff. You know,

802
00:51:54,679 --> 00:51:56,880
it's an interesting little tidbit of input.

803
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 3: Was you know Paul valiy there, who wrote the book

804
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:01,880
with Michael A. Keno.

805
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:06,519
Speaker 17: Yeah, and he's on the board of TPUSA, right, he

806
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,559
was also a promoter of Q.

807
00:52:11,159 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 6: I didn't even know that. Good insight there, John. Now

808
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:20,000
people have been sending me viral Instagram reels of the

809
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,920
Paul Vallei stuff about mine war side war. And I'm

810
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,079
not trying to be rude or dick, but guys, I

811
00:52:26,159 --> 00:52:29,760
knew this fifteen years ago. Now it's new information. In fact,

812
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,840
John was on with me a few weeks ago that

813
00:52:32,159 --> 00:52:35,440
Paul Valley was involved in the TPUSA stuff and we

814
00:52:35,679 --> 00:52:39,199
covered that weeks ago. So first of all, I know

815
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,639
about Mine water Side War. In fact, I've read Michael

816
00:52:41,639 --> 00:52:44,320
Achino's other books. I read his book on Black Magic,

817
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:48,159
I read Mine Water Sie War, so I'm aware of

818
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,320
those things, and I knew who Paul Valley was, and

819
00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:57,280
we covered Paul Valle being connected to TPUSA maybe a

820
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,199
month ago. And then now the White Moms are sending

821
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,039
me the Instagram reels alerting me of things that I

822
00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:07,159
knew fifteen years ago and things that we talked about

823
00:53:07,159 --> 00:53:09,119
a month ago. And again it's not their fault. I'm

824
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:10,920
not bitching at the people who send me that stuff

825
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,480
because it's new information to them. But it's just kind

826
00:53:14,519 --> 00:53:19,599
of frustrating when you see, you know, information getting out

827
00:53:19,679 --> 00:53:22,199
there and then people get so arrogant and douchey with you,

828
00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:25,039
and then they think, oh, you're the drill douchebag. No, No,

829
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,679
I have to deal with this stuff like every day, right,

830
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,199
people who are and it's not just it's also family members, right,

831
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,760
So I deal with family members who have for decades

832
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,559
not listen to me, and then twenty years later when

833
00:53:35,559 --> 00:53:39,400
they hear Queen Candy say it, suddenly it's now true

834
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,039
and it's the new version of what used to be

835
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:43,159
the case with Fox News.

836
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:43,559
Speaker 13: Right.

837
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 6: I had family members I talked to them about all

838
00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:49,119
kinds of stuff, thought I was crazy. But then when

839
00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:51,760
they heard Tucker talk about it, then they listened to

840
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,639
it because it was on the screen, the great God

841
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,400
screen of Fox News. I'm not distinct, Tucker. I'm just

842
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,559
saying this was the process, you know, and say twenty eighteen,

843
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,320
twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, and I'm like, I was telling

844
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,320
you this a long time ago, Okay, geoengineering. I've been

845
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,119
talking about that since twenty I've learned about that in

846
00:54:09,159 --> 00:54:11,840
two thousand and seven or eight, talked about it a lot.

847
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,199
I don't know everything about it. I don't know, you know,

848
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,719
but I've known about it. I've talked about it. It's

849
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,079
in my book. There's a whole two chapters on geoengineering

850
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:22,960
in my twenty eighteen book, and that was based on

851
00:54:23,079 --> 00:54:26,239
articles I'd written years earlier. And then you get people, well,

852
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,800
you know more about geo engineering. Yeah, I'm well aware

853
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,039
of it. I played John Brennan at the CFR talking

854
00:54:32,039 --> 00:54:36,039
about it. I got my whole original TikTok deleted because

855
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:40,320
I played John Brennan clips talking about geoengineering at the

856
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,239
CFR a long time ago. So like, I'm not trying

857
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:45,960
to be I know what, all douchebag. It's just it's

858
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,559
very frustrating thing for people who have been in this

859
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,440
sphere and talked about it so often and for so long,

860
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,960
too little to know fanfare or attention or people weren't listening.

861
00:54:57,639 --> 00:55:00,320
No one would listen to you back when we had

862
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,280
you know, I mean, I'm not even sure the exact

863
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,159
size of the I'm not dissing the Hoaxbusters or Afternoon Commune,

864
00:55:07,159 --> 00:55:10,119
but I mean it wasn't a massive audience. I mean,

865
00:55:10,159 --> 00:55:13,360
we probably had a few thousand downloads back in twenty fifteen, sixteen,

866
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,639
and then to hammer at this for all of these

867
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,400
years to be you know, six years into hosting the

868
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,320
fourth hour of Lord Baltimore, Baltimore now, and it's like,

869
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,800
now you're getting these people copying and saying all the

870
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,800
stuff that you talked about, even Candace talking about all

871
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,679
the Laurel Canyon stuff when she had Tom O'Neil on

872
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,440
like that was shit that we've been covering since Dave

873
00:55:35,519 --> 00:55:38,440
McGowan before he was dead, right, So, and I'm not

874
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:39,960
trying to go ahead.

875
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 3: I interviewed Dave McGowan.

876
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, good point.

877
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 3: I mean even before anybody knew who he was. I'm

878
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:48,679
not saying that to brag.

879
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like, that's how long we've been talking about.

880
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 6: And you guys would have on quite regularly, professors all

881
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,880
kinds of you know, prominent but Chris would call professors

882
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,039
and you know, interview them and ask them questions and

883
00:56:01,199 --> 00:56:04,079
critique them and debate them, and uh, you know, it

884
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,400
was just way ahead of its time. Hoaxbusters was covering stuff.

885
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:12,920
Remember for example, we covered CIA music, pop music, punk music,

886
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,719
and then uh, years later The Guardian basically did the

887
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,280
same podcast that we had done years earlier, with no

888
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,440
credit to John and Chris or myself of course, doing

889
00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:29,280
this whole podcast on you know, we talked about how

890
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:30,440
the windsor.

891
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,519
Speaker 17: Change Yep had a song written by the CIA, which

892
00:56:33,559 --> 00:56:35,000
we talked about the years.

893
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 6: Earlier, tak Me to the Magic of the Moment, And

894
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:51,719
then The Guardian does a podcast and allow culture. Yeah,

895
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,679
we were talking about that ten years earlier. Come on, now,

896
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,880
give it the program Horn Archives. I hope it's Trent

897
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:04,559
Horn's archives. What's up? Man? Give us the pip of May.

898
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 24: Du c J.

899
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:14,079
Speaker 6: What's up? I'm you Trey Horn Archives? What's up? Pay

900
00:57:14,119 --> 00:57:24,320
me as a pimp of May guys. I got my

901
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,360
master's in c i A. Remember that crazy reform guy

902
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,519
they called in. He's like, oh, I know you've got

903
00:57:31,559 --> 00:57:33,760
your masters and c i A. Yes, that's A. That's

904
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,559
an actual graduate program.

905
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:36,079
Speaker 10: Right.

906
00:57:36,159 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 6: I went to meet with my advisors and I was like,

907
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,719
I would like to study the c i A program

908
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,800
and get my master's in c I A. What's up?

909
00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:42,920
I'm mute? Where are you at?

910
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:43,119
Speaker 8: Man?

911
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 6: Last chance? Okay, we're moving on modern day. What's up?

912
00:57:52,679 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 26: MH?

913
00:57:55,719 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 6: Next time I'll get my pa, my triple pH D

914
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:06,079
th h D in CIA. What's up? I'm mute. Just

915
00:58:06,119 --> 00:58:08,400
I'm mute. When you come up, man, just do it.

916
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

917
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 10: I want to have you ever encountered like a dynamic

918
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:16,519
monarching or a Unitarian.

919
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 6: Sure we've had plenty of Unitarians on all the way

920
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:26,320
back to twenty nineteen. Sure, sure, So what.

921
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:32,199
Speaker 10: What do you not agree with it in terms of

922
00:58:32,239 --> 00:58:34,679
the christology, because the christology of it makes sense to me.

923
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,159
Speaker 17: Because if Jesus was if the.

924
00:58:38,239 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 3: Foundation of Jesus being the son.

925
00:58:39,719 --> 00:58:40,719
Speaker 16: Of God is being.

926
00:58:40,679 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 10: Begotten by God, then the clearest then in Jesus' existence

927
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,320
that he was begotten is the Virsian conception Luke war

928
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,440
thirty five. So therefore there would be no need for

929
00:58:53,559 --> 00:58:55,519
a pre existent Jesus.

930
00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:58,239
Speaker 6: There's two begettings. There's a begetting in time and a

931
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,920
begetting out of time. So one Verses one through sixteen

932
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,039
describes the eternal beginning.

933
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:08,119
Speaker 3: Right.

934
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,079
Speaker 26: But this is the thing.

935
00:59:09,159 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 5: If you look at.

936
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 4: John one one through fourteen, the prologue, that.

937
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 10: Could easily especially if you compare I think it's Isaiah eleven.

938
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Speaker 6: I'm not sure he says.

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Speaker 10: Eleven, yeah, or nine I forget, But that could easily

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be about the ministry of Jesus, not necessarily going.

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Speaker 6: Back to Genesis. How could that not be? Look John

942
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one one through three is paralleling Genesis one one through three,

943
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the creation with the light that's created, this created light.

944
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John one is talking about the uncreated light, paralleling Genesis one.

945
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So of course it's going back to Genesis every commentator

946
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knows this. There's also the view that were.

947
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Speaker 10: John one one isn't necessarily Jesus.

948
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Speaker 3: One for one, but it's God's word that becomes flesh.

949
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That is Jesus, by the way, John one fourteen that

950
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were flesh as of the begotten Father.

951
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Speaker 6: Dude fourteen through eighteen. Fourteen through eighteen identifies the word

952
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from verses one and two as the same word that

953
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became flesh. Who is Jesus Christ Verses sixteen, seventeen, and eighteen.

954
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Verse eighteen says no one is seeing God's talking to

955
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the Father at any time. The only begotten son, who

956
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,039
is in the bosom of the Father has declared him.

957
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So you understand that verse eighteen specifically identifies that even

958
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when Christ is on earth, he is still in the

959
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bosom of the Father, meaning that he is eternally generated.

960
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Speaker 3: Well, the bosom of the Father.

961
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Speaker 10: I just it's a close relationship, right, He's in the

962
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Holy of Holies, at.

963
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Speaker 6: The right hand of the Father, on the throne of David.

964
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Speaker 3: But like the word becomes flesh.

965
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Speaker 10: Well, what other event where does Jesus become flesh? But

966
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when he's spiritually begotten by the Father into the womb

967
01:00:49,679 --> 01:00:52,320
of Mary Luke went thirty five the conception where does one?

968
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,119
Speaker 6: Where does verses? So hold on? You said a minute

969
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ago that the word is not Jesus, But Verses fourteen

970
01:00:58,639 --> 01:01:01,719
through eighteen identify Jesus as the words what are you

971
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:02,320
talking about?

972
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Speaker 3: Right?

973
01:01:03,239 --> 01:01:04,519
Speaker 6: The word becomes Jesus.

974
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Speaker 10: The word becomes manifest in the flesh.

975
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Speaker 6: In Jesus Christ. Jesus is the word. They are. They

976
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,880
are identified as the same. They are the same subject

977
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,920
or reference. That's why Jesus says, I am before Abraham

978
01:01:17,079 --> 01:01:17,320
was I.

979
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:22,199
Speaker 10: Am, well he is what though what was Abraham saw

980
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:22,639
his day?

981
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,239
Speaker 6: I am is a reference to Exodus three, the name

982
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,079
of God, the tetragrammaton the existing one.

983
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,599
Speaker 10: Well, that I am, as said in the New Testament elsewhere,

984
01:01:32,719 --> 01:01:36,039
is not identifying necessarily someone as Jehovah God.

985
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 6: Of course it is. It's a quote from Exodus three,

986
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:39,960
the phrase I am right.

987
01:01:40,199 --> 01:01:43,599
Speaker 10: What isn't there a situation where the blind man is

988
01:01:43,679 --> 01:01:46,159
toil by Jesus uses that phrase phrase I.

989
01:01:46,239 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 6: Am, no, what are you talking about? No one can

990
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,960
When Jesus says that later on in John, the Pharisees

991
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,320
want to stone him because he makes himself equal with God.

992
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,159
You can't. Nobody called themselves the tetragrammaton.

993
01:01:57,679 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 10: Well, I don't have a promise with him an equality

994
01:02:01,519 --> 01:02:05,320
of some sense, because he is directly begde by Joeve

995
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,079
of God his literal only be God's son.

996
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,719
Speaker 6: But for that you don't need pre existence.

997
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,119
Speaker 3: You don't need the eternal generation.

998
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:15,039
Speaker 6: The text in John one already said the text already

999
01:02:15,079 --> 01:02:18,119
says it's a pre existence because if you read Hebrews one,

1000
01:02:18,199 --> 01:02:20,159
the whole purpose of that chapter is to prove that

1001
01:02:20,239 --> 01:02:22,679
he's the one that created the angels, and so therefore

1002
01:02:22,719 --> 01:02:26,360
any creature is subordinate to him because he is the creator.

1003
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,519
You can't be the creator unless you're also God and

1004
01:02:29,559 --> 01:02:30,480
you're also eternal.

1005
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,559
Speaker 10: Yeah, he designed the agees, that's what it says.

1006
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 3: In Hebrews one.

1007
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, it doesn't say he designed the angels. It doesn't

1008
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,840
say that. It doesn't say he designed the angels. It

1009
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,679
says he's the creator of the angels. What are you

1010
01:02:42,679 --> 01:02:44,119
talking about, designed the ages?

1011
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 3: The ages?

1012
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:51,159
Speaker 6: He's the creator the Messianic age, right, And so no,

1013
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,719
you're just you're just reinterpreting this.

1014
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 31: Nor am my.

1015
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:58,519
Speaker 10: Son's day of Pigottny, which was a dividing kingship coronation.

1016
01:02:58,719 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 6: So seven it's you're misunderstanding that it's both in and

1017
01:03:02,079 --> 01:03:04,239
not either or that's why you keep flipping between it

1018
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,880
being something that's eternal, which is why you said in

1019
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,239
John one, it's just the word. John one fourteen to

1020
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,639
eighteen identifies the word as the person Jesus Christ, so

1021
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,119
the same subject. Right, Well, then that refute your position.

1022
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:18,840
Then it's not that they're not different.

1023
01:03:20,039 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 3: Well, the word, if you go.

1024
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:22,639
Speaker 10: To the Old test of what is the word, it's

1025
01:03:22,639 --> 01:03:26,360
always God's utterance, his prophecy that the covenants, the Davidic

1026
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,039
Covenant is called the Word of God sake of Samuel seven.

1027
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 3: And Jesus is the divided king.

1028
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,079
Speaker 10: If you look at Luke one, I think it's twenty

1029
01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:35,559
six through thirty sixty, the announcement to Mary, it's all

1030
01:03:35,599 --> 01:03:37,360
divided kingship and covenant language.

1031
01:03:38,079 --> 01:03:39,559
Speaker 3: So that word is the Davidic Covenant.

1032
01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:41,519
Speaker 6: It becomes flesh when Jesus has.

1033
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 10: Begone of the Father John one fourteen, and that's told

1034
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,079
to Mary that he's going to reign over the House

1035
01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:49,039
of Jacob forever. He's going to have the throne of

1036
01:03:49,079 --> 01:03:51,280
his father David. He's going to be he's to be

1037
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:51,920
gotten son.

1038
01:03:52,119 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 6: But none of that proves what you're trying to argue

1039
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,960
that there's there's a difference between the Word and Jesus.

1040
01:03:57,239 --> 01:03:58,360
They're the same subject.

1041
01:03:58,440 --> 01:03:58,639
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1042
01:03:59,519 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 10: My point is isn't necessarily like a hard difference. It's

1043
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:02,360
just you.

1044
01:04:03,239 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 6: You just argued earlier that there is a difference because

1045
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,800
you said Jesus isn't the eternally begotten son of God.

1046
01:04:09,159 --> 01:04:11,280
So there is a difference. Now you're switching to Jesus.

1047
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:17,159
Speaker 3: Though that word God's promise, it's not.

1048
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,519
Speaker 6: It's an actual, it's a person. And that's why in

1049
01:04:20,639 --> 01:04:24,000
the Old Testament that Angel Lord is the word. In fact,

1050
01:04:24,119 --> 01:04:27,079
in Exos twenty three, God says, my word my name

1051
01:04:27,239 --> 01:04:30,280
is in the Angel Messenger. That's why the angel messenger

1052
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,639
is the Angel is going to have the name of Jovin.

1053
01:04:32,639 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 10: And it doesn't mean that was Jesus.

1054
01:04:35,159 --> 01:04:38,079
Speaker 6: Jesus identifies himself as the Angel of the Lord in

1055
01:04:38,159 --> 01:04:41,400
the Old Testament. What are you talking about? Yes, he does?

1056
01:04:41,519 --> 01:04:43,320
Who ate with who ate with Abraham?

1057
01:04:44,599 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 3: Jesus?

1058
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 32: Who ate with Abraham? Who ached with Abraham? Who ate

1059
01:04:52,119 --> 01:04:57,079
with Abraham? Who ate with Abraham?

1060
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 6: All right? You your lying? Who who ate with Abraham,

1061
01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:11,639
who ate with Abraham? Okay, this is so stupid. Jesus

1062
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,079
is the one eating with Abraham.

1063
01:05:16,159 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 10: So before Abraham he was he was what though, he

1064
01:05:20,199 --> 01:05:22,760
was the one that was going to fulfill the Abraham

1065
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,920
and blessings of Genesis twelve.

1066
01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 6: This is too stupid.

1067
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 16: The Messiah, the dividing king.

1068
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,679
Speaker 6: And we see that in Galicias three he ate with Abraham,

1069
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,679
and he was on the mountain with Moses as second

1070
01:05:37,719 --> 01:05:40,519
Corinthians three says, when Moses went up on the mountain,

1071
01:05:40,599 --> 01:05:42,639
he saw the face of Christ. Paul says it psy

1072
01:05:42,679 --> 01:05:44,320
Corinthians three. So this is what you get with these

1073
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:48,400
ridiculous unitarians. What's up? So you notice what he did

1074
01:05:48,519 --> 01:05:51,199
was he constantly kept shifting the definitions. Right, So first

1075
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,800
there's a difference between the eternal word and the person Jesus.

1076
01:05:55,159 --> 01:05:58,159
But then the eternal word is what became Jesus, and

1077
01:05:58,239 --> 01:06:00,719
so Jesus is a created being. Well, well, these are

1078
01:06:00,719 --> 01:06:02,880
the creative being in terms of his human nature. But

1079
01:06:03,039 --> 01:06:05,880
the subject is the second person of the Godhead, the

1080
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,119
eternal word, whom John One says, is the creator of

1081
01:06:09,159 --> 01:06:12,840
the worlds, not the designer of the worlds. What's up? Dylan.

1082
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,840
I'm mute, Hey, Jay, I come to.

1083
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 3: Tell me quick.

1084
01:06:17,719 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 8: I got a comment, an impression.

1085
01:06:20,599 --> 01:06:22,239
Speaker 4: Request, and an actual question for you.

1086
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:23,519
Speaker 6: OKT hurry up.

1087
01:06:25,199 --> 01:06:29,719
Speaker 22: So I noticed the other day a new channel popped

1088
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,639
up that I saw you comments on in real time.

1089
01:06:32,079 --> 01:06:32,719
Speaker 17: It was a new.

1090
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 10: Jadier radio channel, and I just thought that was.

1091
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,719
Speaker 19: Really funny because you were talking about the boomers and

1092
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:38,480
all bricks.

1093
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:39,559
Speaker 3: And how they had radio shows.

1094
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 6: Yeah. They just did that as a joke though, so

1095
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:42,639
it's intentional.

1096
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1097
01:06:45,079 --> 01:06:45,519
Speaker 12: And then.

1098
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,199
Speaker 6: All right, well we can't hear you. So for those

1099
01:06:51,239 --> 01:06:53,360
that are curious, I have a whole talk on the

1100
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:58,320
Trinity in the Torah, which absolutely destroys unitarianism. So you

1101
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,440
can watch this talk right here if you want a

1102
01:07:00,519 --> 01:07:15,079
fuller reputation of that nonsense blasphemer. Lejandro Ale. What's up,

1103
01:07:15,159 --> 01:07:31,920
Lady Gaga? H I'm mute. Oh hey okay, hey Jay, yep.

1104
01:07:33,599 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 3: I had a question.

1105
01:07:34,719 --> 01:07:42,199
Speaker 33: I'm I what the dogs cleaning wash eighteenth first, and

1106
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,880
I was a Lutheran, but I just can't do the

1107
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:45,760
whole part of that name.

1108
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 8: But there's one question that has been bugging me for

1109
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,199
a while. It's the somebody, some.

1110
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:51,559
Speaker 3: Some mayke you spotted up.

1111
01:07:51,599 --> 01:07:53,159
Speaker 8: And it's really the only point that stuck to me

1112
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:58,480
was if the Jews only consider the patriarch the father's

1113
01:07:58,519 --> 01:08:03,039
side of the family, the theology as like the I'm

1114
01:08:03,079 --> 01:08:06,960
sure you know where I'm going with this as the official.

1115
01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:11,079
Speaker 14: Uh genes for your.

1116
01:08:11,079 --> 01:08:13,239
Speaker 8: Dad, Like if your dad is June then or Jew,

1117
01:08:13,559 --> 01:08:15,719
your mom is not Jew, then it doesn't matter as

1118
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:16,840
long as your dad as you whatever.

1119
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 3: But so then how does that tie in with or

1120
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,840
how do I fix that with?

1121
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,399
Speaker 8: Right? Because he only came in through Mary obviously.

1122
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,199
Speaker 6: So so his Mary is from the tribe of David.

1123
01:08:33,239 --> 01:08:34,319
What are you talking about?

1124
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:41,600
Speaker 3: So I don't know how to uh say this, right,

1125
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:45,199
But it's like, uh, so his dad.

1126
01:08:45,239 --> 01:08:48,079
Speaker 6: His human nature comes from Mary.

1127
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,399
Speaker 3: His father is obviously the father, right, his.

1128
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,239
Speaker 6: Human nature comes from his human nature is from Mary,

1129
01:08:55,319 --> 01:08:59,600
and Mary is from the Dividict tribe. His dad is God,

1130
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:06,039
the Father, Blake, what's up? If you want a longer

1131
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,520
three hour talk on the Trinity and the deed of

1132
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,279
Christ and the old Testaments right here? What's up?

1133
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 3: Man?

1134
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 6: Plus, we have a whole lecture to the Gospel John

1135
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,720
proving the deed of Christ. So I'm not going to

1136
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:20,600
rehearse the entire course of proving the deed of Christ.

1137
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,439
This is like one on one. What's up, man, Blake?

1138
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:22,760
I'm you.

1139
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:29,199
Speaker 16: Hey, I uh you know, I got real wrapped up

1140
01:09:29,239 --> 01:09:32,800
in the uh you know, the whole Jake question and

1141
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,319
everything else over the past couple of months. But the

1142
01:09:36,399 --> 01:09:38,920
bill in the past couple of weeks have really exposed

1143
01:09:39,039 --> 01:09:45,479
like how insane the left and liberal minded, and it's

1144
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,600
kind of unified me a little bit more. I guess

1145
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:53,279
back with Crowder and Temples, those guys, do you uh

1146
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:58,199
you your fault? Do you see like the actual persecution.

1147
01:09:59,439 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 3: Give you?

1148
01:10:00,319 --> 01:10:01,560
Speaker 12: It is Christian.

1149
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 2: Four.

1150
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,159
Speaker 6: It's very possible. I don't know how far they could

1151
01:10:09,159 --> 01:10:10,760
really go with it, but I think that they are

1152
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:16,239
absolutely crazy enough and radicalized enough that they will try it.

1153
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,880
I mean, they seem to be on board with that,

1154
01:10:19,079 --> 01:10:22,640
so I would not be surprised. I don't know exactly

1155
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:35,199
what will happen, obviously, but it's very possible. Nick. What's up, Yojay?

1156
01:10:35,279 --> 01:10:35,760
What's going on?

1157
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:36,039
Speaker 18: Man?

1158
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 6: What's on your mind? Dude?

1159
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 20: So I've been going through Plato's Republic and I made

1160
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,520
my way through the first book and then listen to

1161
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,279
your lecture on it, like the half lecture that you

1162
01:10:50,359 --> 01:10:51,560
have on YouTube.

1163
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,399
Speaker 24: And there was something I noticed, but I didn't see

1164
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:55,079
you talk about it.

1165
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,199
Speaker 6: By the way, I have a lecture. Hold on, I

1166
01:10:57,279 --> 01:11:00,880
have a lecture throughout the entire republic. Yeah, so I

1167
01:11:01,079 --> 01:11:03,680
just there's like five you know, I'm saying, there's like, okay,

1168
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,680
but there's like five to be clear, it goes through

1169
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:06,600
the whole book, but go ahead.

1170
01:11:07,279 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was listening to the one the dam book one

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on YouTube, okay, and there was.

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Speaker 24: Something I caught and I don't know if it's just

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me thinking about something and it's not there, and I

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wanted to hear your thoughts on it. In the first book,

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when Socrates is speaking to I think the old guy's

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name is Cephalis, and then he has his son, he

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just is kind.

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Speaker 4: Of asking him these basic questions.

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Speaker 24: About like, hey, you know you have money, now, is

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that why you know you have peace in your life?

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Speaker 6: Et cetera.

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Speaker 24: And eventually it feels like the conversation doesn't even really

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begin or like have any depths, and there's not really

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any level of debate or back and forth until this

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old dude leaves and it's just then Socrates and the

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guy's son, I think it's polemic, polemicus or polemic.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna mess the names up.

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Speaker 24: But he's going back and forth with the young guys

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and then it's only the young dudes at that point.

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It's only when this old guy leaves. And I was

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wondering if you thought that had any significance because I

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know that Plato is like very intentional with everything that

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he writes.

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Speaker 4: It's not like he's it's just what happened. It's like

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he designed this scenario.

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Speaker 24: Do you think what he's saying there is that like

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wisdom can only be passed on when like the older

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generation goes away, and then it's only like the young

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person discussing with someone who actually has wisdom. Because I'm like,

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I'm thinking about in general boomers, gen X kind of

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this just like you know, the type of people that

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believe in qn ON and is just this like stupid

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mentality across the board from them.

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Speaker 6: Can you remind me of the the old guy that

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you're talking about?

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Speaker 26: What was the.

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Speaker 6: What was his philosophy? Because it's been twelve years since

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I read The Republic, So what was the old guy's philosophy?

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Speaker 24: Well, basically, like what it was was that they stop Socrates.

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He's trying to leave the city and go back up

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the mountain, and then they're saying, no, no, you need.

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Speaker 4: To say, you need to come with us.

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Speaker 24: We're going to have it where we bring you back

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to this house he wants to see you. They then

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bring into the house and it's a really wealthy guy

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and he asks him essentially like, hey, you know what,

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what have you found is good for money? And from

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what I can understand is he said that, well, it

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allows me to be able to pay back the debts

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that I once had, and allows me to be able

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to pay people that I maybe had wrong during my time,

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and now I can pay them back. And then he's

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saying that the only reason why people don't have peace

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in their life is because they, you know, because of

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their actions and because of their virtues. And then as

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yeah as Socrates starts to ask about justice and start

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to go into that discussion, that's when the old guy

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leaves and base he says, so, your son Polemarchus or

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whatever he inherited this discussion.

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Speaker 4: He goes, I assume so or something like that, and

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then walks away and he.

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Speaker 24: Just completely exits that situation, and I don't know if

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that was intentional, but it made me.

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Speaker 4: Think about, Yeah, it's like only.

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Speaker 24: When the boomer leaves the conversation can there ever be

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any actual progress, because there's no like just dumb conversation.

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Speaker 4: Of like, no, you know what I mean, that's at

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least what I was thinking.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's accurate.

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Speaker 6: No, I think probably a lot of professors and scholars.

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I remember something on this from my school days. And

1244
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Plato has a few apologetic agendas. For example, in the Apology,

1245
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he's castigating the Athenian Society for rejecting Socrates, and so

1246
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he probably does have a degree of animosity towards the

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older generation of that time. He also felt like they

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were dull and you know, sort of INSIGNI so I

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01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:07,359
would say, probably, yeah, all righty, well cool man, I

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appreciate it. Thanks T. Yeah, No, that's actually a perceptive question.

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It's just I haven't I haven't even thought about the

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Republican like twelve years. So right wing? What's up? Right wing?

1253
01:15:22,239 --> 01:15:25,000
And then Emerald, what's up? Right wing? On you anybody?

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Speaker 25: I have a quick question about predeterminism and the theological

1255
01:15:29,279 --> 01:15:33,199
determinism from an orthodox perspective, if the question is posed

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from an atheist and debate, how can there be free

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will if God is all knowing from beginning to end?

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Speaker 6: What would your response be? Uh, Yeah, We've addressed it many,

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many times. The fact that God is all knowing has

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nothing to do with whether or not he can create

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a world where there's secondary causes. So God can be

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the first cause of the world and create a world

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where there are secondary causes. So the argument or the

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assumption is that if God's all knowing, he must be

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all determining, and they're just simply as a non sequitor emerald.

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What's up?

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Speaker 3: Hi? I had a few.

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Speaker 8: Questions about how to debate some or not even debate, but.

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Speaker 31: Just talk to them when they believe in more of

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the New Age stuff, because I feel like I've heard

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a lot of arguments when it comes to talking to atheists,

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but not people who believe in like the book Journey

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of the Souls or like the egg theory.

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Speaker 3: Things like that.

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Speaker 6: Well, the thing with most of the New Age you

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01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,359
stuff is that it tends to be anti rational and

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anti logical. So it will it will focus on the

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subjective and experiences, but it never really provides any framework

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to judge whether an experience is good or bad, or

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true or false, or delusion or deception. So most of

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01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,960
the time New Age stuff just boils into relativism that well,

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that's your truth, man, and this is my truth.

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Speaker 5: Men.

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Speaker 6: So I would go to the route of, you know,

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pointing out how destructive to the possibility of knowledge. Relativism

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and subjectivism.

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Speaker 3: Are okay, awesome, thank you day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, good question. And I think I don't think

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I've ever heard a new Ager argue for objective truth.

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I mean, maybe there is one out there somewhere Sapphire.

1291
01:17:18,079 --> 01:17:27,000
What's up, y'all? Like these fancy camera angles, got two cameras? Shit,

1292
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I might have fifteen camera angles in here by the

1293
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end of the year. What's up? Huh?

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Speaker 3: Awesome. So we've seen a little bit of tonight with

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some of these callers.

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Speaker 22: And I was having a conversation with one of my

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buddies recently about interpretation about you know, which church.

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Speaker 3: Is correct and proper and this sort of thing, and.

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Speaker 27: The issue of reading his cripture came up, and I

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brought up to him a lot a bar I can't

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remember the name of talking which councilor as there's a

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councilor that says up in the effect of people other

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than Orthodox Christians who have been properly catechized shouldn't even

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be reading the text. And I tried to explain to

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them the pragmatism of that, where it's not an exclusivity

1306
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in the sense of like a superiority thing or anything

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01:18:21,279 --> 01:18:24,239
like that, but it's it's dangerous for people to just

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pick up this book with no prior context or connection

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to the tradition and then read it at phase value

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with their own biases.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So I'm aware of two I'm aware of two statements.

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There's one of the canons I want to say in Trollo,

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and then there's a later statement in you know, like

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Jassi or Door or Decithius or something where it says

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something like, you know, laity should not be interpreting the scriptures.

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So the context of the first one is that in

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terms of officially representing and teaching the church, right, you're not.

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It's not the job of laity without specific permission to

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do so, to do things publicly. So that's the context

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of the first statement. It's always, by the way, the

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canons are always under the purview of the bishop and

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the bishop's interpretation. So it's not like these are laws

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that are not interpreted by the bishop. The bishop interprets

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the law. Secondly, and there have been many laity, by

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the way, who have been theologians and apologists, and I

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mean a lot of monastics, for example, are still laity

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01:19:29,279 --> 01:19:32,279
and have done all kinds of debates and apologetics and

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01:19:32,319 --> 01:19:35,520
so forth. So there's nothing inherently wrong about that when

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it's done in the right way. And then secondly, the

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later counter Reformation statements are in the context that we're

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responding to the Protestant ideas of private interpretation and the

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right to private interpretation. Ozzie, thank you guys for tune.

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I don't think I'm gonna have time to get to

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the Old Boys, uh as I should. I thought i'd

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have more time than I did, but Jamie's got to

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come in here and do it podcast on a bit.

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So I don't think I'll have time to do Old Boys,

1339
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but we'll get to it next. What's up, man, I'm

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01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:16,680
your Ozzie. Oh, Ozzy Osbourne? What's up?

1341
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 3: Heye? Do you hear me?

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Speaker 6: Yep?

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01:20:21,039 --> 01:20:21,319
Speaker 3: Cool?

1344
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,520
Speaker 6: That's Worts something interesting. I don't know if you know

1345
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:25,199
about this channel.

1346
01:20:25,199 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 29: It's called rom five to ten, like Romans five ten.

1347
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:32,039
He recently started making He's like a Protestant dude, and

1348
01:20:32,199 --> 01:20:35,960
he's been making like response videos to your reputations of atheism.

1349
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It's not a huge channel, so I wouldn't be surprised.

1350
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 6: But what about it?

1351
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:40,520
Speaker 3: It's very funny.

1352
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Speaker 29: Well, sometimes to make sures that are very funny and weird,

1353
01:20:44,359 --> 01:20:47,159
like at one point you made a video that suggested

1354
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that Catholics hate God because of these long robes, like

1355
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for example, like when Jesus like woe to those who

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wear long robes in public or whatever.

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Speaker 3: H I don't know.

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Speaker 29: I said it was very funny anecdote that thinks like

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Catholics and Orthodox hate Okay, I'll.

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Speaker 6: Check it out. Thank you for that. P E. G. N.

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Pagan Johnny Boy five dollars. I know that you joke around.

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01:21:22,039 --> 01:21:24,479
A Voice of Reason is very smart. You cannot deny that.

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I don't think he's an absolute midweight. I don't think

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he's intelligent at all. Just that that tells me what

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you think is intelligent?

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Speaker 12: Is that?

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01:21:32,119 --> 01:21:32,520
Speaker 6: What's up?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 12: Can you?

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Speaker 8: Uh huh?

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Speaker 28: I just wanted to kind of that guy that was

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the Unitarian guy earlier. I always thought it was kind

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of interesting, how the when Jesus says I am before

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Abraham was I am That wouldn't make any sense pragmatically

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unless he was saying I am equal with the God

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that is outside of the bounds of time.

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I mean it's it's pretty obvious. But of course,

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if you're going to cope and reinterpret everything, then nothing

1379
01:22:04,279 --> 01:22:06,640
is a proof of anything except for your position. Kevin,

1380
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what's up? Yep, yep? I just had a quick question

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about that, Stina, that's okay, okay.

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Speaker 26: Do you think that it was totally all Masad and

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not more I six driven, or because I kind of

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waiting towards it was in my sixth driven and just

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kind of with all the other intelligent stuff, everybody kind

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of plays a part, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 6: I think it was all of those that was useful

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to all of those agencies, but probably mainly Middle Eastern nectarios,

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Hero Born Entertainment five dollars, Thank you so much, Evan

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ten dollars. If unitarians insisted Jesus is merely a creature,

1391
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they have no choice but to condemn Jesus as a blasphemer. Yeah, exactly,

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that's what the fair who's doing? But of course they

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won't because they are cowards. Good God, the Father five dollars.

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Jesus was full of grace and truth which came through

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Jesus Christ. Correct. What's up man?

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Speaker 3: Hey? Jay?

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Speaker 34: First off, thank you for the movie recommendation on your

1398
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:18,680
last stream, the Red writing it was actually a good movie.

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Speaker 4: Just finished it today, So thank you for that.

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Speaker 6: Did you watch the whole trilogy or one of them?

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Speaker 34: No, I literally just got done with the first one.

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01:23:25,319 --> 01:23:28,079
I'm gonna start heading on to the second part of

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01:23:28,119 --> 01:23:28,600
the trilogy.

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01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:32,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, somebody said Andrew Garfield was based I thought that

1405
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:33,439
was pretty cool. I hope so.

1406
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then I have a buddy, Kelly.

1407
01:23:38,079 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 4: He's coming from Protestants and he's right next to me.

1408
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:41,560
He wanted to ask you a quick question that he's

1409
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,800
been struggling with on his search to orthodoxy.

1410
01:23:52,279 --> 01:23:58,560
Speaker 21: Thank you.

1411
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:03,399
Speaker 6: So we just learned what love is. I hope you

1412
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:06,800
guys appreciate that We've been waiting this whole time and

1413
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:10,560
we finally did learn what love is. And that was it. Taylor,

1414
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:11,119
what's up, man?

1415
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,039
Speaker 3: I want to know who love is?

1416
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:16,159
Speaker 2: What to show me?

1417
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:23,199
Speaker 6: What's up?

1418
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:24,119
Speaker 5: Taylor?

1419
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 6: Taylor Swift what's up every pop stars calling at night?

1420
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 2: Hey man, you kind of got me into the direction

1421
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,159
of Orthodoxy, so thank you for that.

1422
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,279
Speaker 4: And I have two quick questions.

1423
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 2: One is I've noticed that an Orthodoxy there's lots of

1424
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,399
people who still believe in evolution, and I kind of

1425
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:51,760
got contense on ongoing against evolution by some pure videos.

1426
01:24:52,279 --> 01:24:53,319
Speaker 6: I was wondering if you'd.

1427
01:24:53,159 --> 01:24:56,119
Speaker 2: Ever considered debating an Orthodox person who's pro evolution.

1428
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:57,560
Speaker 4: That's first question.

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01:25:00,199 --> 01:25:00,399
Speaker 3: I got.

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01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 6: It have to go because we got a bunch of

1431
01:25:02,239 --> 01:25:04,039
people and I'm trying to hurry. I gotta do the

1432
01:25:04,119 --> 01:25:07,920
supertest too, before Jamie gets in here. I don't actually

1433
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,720
know of an Orthodox person who does debates defending evolution.

1434
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:13,560
Most of the people who have that just kind of

1435
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:15,880
have that as their view, but most of them are

1436
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:21,199
not debaters of that view. So if there was a

1437
01:25:21,279 --> 01:25:25,000
guy that used to write for Soul the East who

1438
01:25:25,079 --> 01:25:27,079
was an Orthodox guy who's a big he was like

1439
01:25:27,119 --> 01:25:30,520
an evolution fanatic. His name is Martin something, and I

1440
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,720
remember trying to get him to come to debate and

1441
01:25:33,319 --> 01:25:36,520
he was told douchebag, he wouldn't do it. So I

1442
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:41,560
don't know where's one of the debates aqua Oe ten

1443
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,000
dollars Jay if he's in the movie Zero, directed by

1444
01:25:44,119 --> 01:25:48,760
Jean Luke Ebolow. It is the same type of feeling

1445
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,880
that I got watching Annihilation. No, I don't think I've

1446
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:54,439
heard of this. Let's see. By the way, I wanted

1447
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,199
to give a shout out to all of these young

1448
01:25:56,319 --> 01:26:01,119
bros and even one Asian chick who made all these

1449
01:26:01,239 --> 01:26:04,079
videos that have just popped up within the last two weeks.

1450
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,920
There's like multiple videos popping up within the last couple

1451
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:11,640
of weeks of young bros and gals converting to Orthodoxy.

1452
01:26:12,079 --> 01:26:15,760
They just sorted popping up in my feed and uh so,

1453
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,560
shout out to Planks and Pieces. I watched his video

1454
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,039
that was really well made video.

1455
01:26:22,159 --> 01:26:22,319
Speaker 5: Here.

1456
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:27,640
Speaker 6: We got this bro over here, Luke Luke Cheney, granddaughter

1457
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:32,560
of Dick Cheney. Right here, he said, why he's converted Orthodoxy,

1458
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:37,000
blessed wretch over here, this bro over here doing full

1459
01:26:37,079 --> 01:26:40,680
on fridge streams, doing a straight up fridge stream He's

1460
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:46,600
converted Orthodoxy. We got Bartholomew over here. He's in Australia.

1461
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:50,960
He's conveitted to Walton, Aussie as well. So and then

1462
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:55,640
I forgot where the where's the Chinese girls. I think

1463
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,319
she was Chinese. Where is she at? She popped up too?

1464
01:26:59,359 --> 01:27:00,159
Speaker 10: This is her here?

1465
01:27:02,199 --> 01:27:05,079
Speaker 6: Asians gonna be mad if I get it wrong. Is

1466
01:27:05,159 --> 01:27:22,199
she Japanese? She's Japanese? Sake to Nihongo. They and there's

1467
01:27:22,279 --> 01:27:24,359
more by the way. There's like other ones popping up

1468
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:28,319
by the way. So we got an army, all right,

1469
01:27:28,359 --> 01:27:32,800
we're building an army, not a literal army, idiots, uh,

1470
01:27:33,359 --> 01:27:38,279
a theological army. So check out all the based converts.

1471
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:42,600
Props to all these people right here. Check that out.

1472
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,159
Speaker 3: I want no love me.

1473
01:27:48,079 --> 01:27:52,560
Speaker 6: I gotta look up this movie Zero by Jean lu Zero.

1474
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:56,159
Thank you, hick at Heart. Two dollars. Do you dip?

1475
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:03,399
It's a Alps bro No, I don't dip. Do yacht

1476
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:06,720
to Monsoon? Ten dollars. Who you got in a fight?

1477
01:28:07,399 --> 01:28:11,960
Yakoub versus Tyson Fury? Duh Yakub created Tyson Fury, so

1478
01:28:12,039 --> 01:28:14,880
obviously he would win. Jordan Lofgren two dollars?

1479
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:15,239
Speaker 3: What up?

1480
01:28:15,279 --> 01:28:15,520
Speaker 5: Queen?

1481
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:19,279
Speaker 6: What's all girl? Emilion? What's up? A meal? Shout out

1482
01:28:19,319 --> 01:28:22,119
to our baze to serve man a milion? Twenty bucks,

1483
01:28:22,159 --> 01:28:24,039
Thank you so much, man Z, I need e ten

1484
01:28:24,119 --> 01:28:28,239
dollars Jesus claimed to be God, but it's deeper, it's

1485
01:28:28,319 --> 01:28:31,840
through prophecy. Then it's just a simple word God. I

1486
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:35,399
do not understand how anyone can argue that he was

1487
01:28:36,279 --> 01:28:39,720
claiming to be part of the triad. Well go watch

1488
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,960
my video on the Trinity in the Old Testament and

1489
01:28:43,119 --> 01:28:46,439
the Deed of Christ comic books in cahoots. Five dollars. Jay,

1490
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:50,279
I've been getting by on my intuition since the world

1491
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:53,760
was crazy went crazy in twenty twenty. You helped me

1492
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:58,000
understand this discernment all along. Thanks you, thank you. Appreciate

1493
01:28:58,079 --> 01:28:59,760
that man. Guys who want to support the trem of

1494
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:03,600
you just super chats. Ozan says, let me correct my

1495
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:06,920
super chat. It wasn't worded correctly. I can't understand how

1496
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:10,239
people believe that Jesus wasn't claiming to be got correct

1497
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,439
sink twenty one five dollars. Is it worth reading? The

1498
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,560
City of God is Orthodox? Yeah, it's a great book.

1499
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,840
I mean, we don't agree with every theological statement, but

1500
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:22,039
I did do a talk throughout the totality of City

1501
01:29:22,039 --> 01:29:23,640
of God. You can go check that out on my

1502
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:29,239
archives on this channel on plank and pieces. Five dollars day.

1503
01:29:29,279 --> 01:29:31,119
Thank you for some love on the video. Appreciate you, Hey,

1504
01:29:31,159 --> 01:29:31,720
shout out to you.

1505
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 18: Man.

1506
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 6: I thought there's a really really tight, fancy made video.

1507
01:29:38,319 --> 01:29:42,239
You went full on fancy bro like you put some

1508
01:29:42,359 --> 01:29:48,399
time into this thing. Oh, speaking of videos, so I

1509
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:55,199
tried to tap into making a accessible, you know, a

1510
01:29:55,319 --> 01:29:59,079
little bit of philosophy knowledge video on tag. So it

1511
01:29:59,159 --> 01:30:01,680
seems to be resid well with people that got within

1512
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:04,399
three hours ten thousand views, which I don't usually get

1513
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,720
that much within a few hours. So the argument for

1514
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,560
God You Never Heard is intended to be a introductory

1515
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:17,520
level level one introduction to tag. Obviously I can't cover

1516
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:23,119
everything in that one, but check it out. By the way, guys,

1517
01:30:23,159 --> 01:30:25,680
I will try to stream. I might stream later, we'll see,

1518
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:28,640
but Jamie's got to come in here and do an interview,

1519
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:31,199
so I'm not gonna have time. I don't think to

1520
01:30:31,319 --> 01:30:34,039
get to everybody in the calls, but guys, don't worry.

1521
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,319
I open it up for calls almost every other day.

1522
01:30:41,319 --> 01:30:46,239
Let's see, birds aren't even real five dollars. Holy crap.

1523
01:30:46,319 --> 01:30:49,479
That woman that called in sounds like Lorraine Broco. Who's

1524
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:51,439
the Lorraine Broco. It's probably somebody from a TV show.

1525
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:53,680
Jab Peltya. Two dollars, Jay, you better be nice, Okay,

1526
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:57,600
I'm not me. Being nice is having fun and joking

1527
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:02,119
around Alter Void. Five dollars. Tell him, missus, Pope, tell

1528
01:31:02,239 --> 01:31:06,000
him the rules next. Oh, she's saying to her, you

1529
01:31:06,119 --> 01:31:09,239
tell him this, Pope. Joshua Tree two dollars. What do

1530
01:31:09,319 --> 01:31:12,640
you think on polite, Lee Dair, I don't don't know

1531
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:17,039
what that is. Sounds like some French thing. Joshua Tree again,

1532
01:31:17,119 --> 01:31:18,960
ten dollars. I just saw a video by a guy

1533
01:31:19,039 --> 01:31:26,199
called Polyta Lee Dare on orthodoxy. They're the least convincing

1534
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:29,640
arguments I've hurt against Orthodoxy. Ever, I'm not I have

1535
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:31,800
to see what that is. I'm thinking about it. Never

1536
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:37,279
heard of it. Jordan Lofgrin five dollars. Yoda's smooth cam

1537
01:31:38,239 --> 01:31:41,119
swap is proof that your boy has made it out

1538
01:31:41,119 --> 01:31:43,000
of the hood. Yeah, this is the Proofer here, Look

1539
01:31:43,199 --> 01:31:44,840
did I make it out of the hood? Well, how

1540
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:51,880
can I do three multiple angles? Boom boom boom If

1541
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:57,479
I didn't make it out the hood? I I don't

1542
01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:58,960
know who I love it. I got to read the

1543
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:02,399
super Jazz Babe Jamies and hurry. The movie is zero

1544
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:06,119
twenty twenty four Aquanote, I'd definitely check it out for sure.

1545
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:10,840
Austin five dollars. Where's h Brosey? The chat needs some

1546
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:13,840
more melon it. He said he was going to take

1547
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:17,279
a break from the internet, so I'm assuming that's still happening.

1548
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:29,279
User jay I eight five dollars. What are the best

1549
01:32:29,279 --> 01:32:31,840
three books to understand and read where society is at?

1550
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:34,920
What do you think about preterists? And well, partial preterism

1551
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,600
is true, that's the orthodox view. Three books to read

1552
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:41,520
about society and where we're at go through my Global

1553
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,880
Elite book series. So I've got a whole playlist where

1554
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:46,720
I go through the Global Elite blocks and I think

1555
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:51,079
most of those they're all pretty essential and substantial, So

1556
01:32:51,159 --> 01:32:56,439
you could pick from that list. Flavius ten dollars. What

1557
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:59,800
do you think about mar Maury? Unfortunately mar Maury is heaterodox,

1558
01:33:00,079 --> 01:33:04,479
so I would say go watch Father Michael's video critiquing Marmari.

1559
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:09,520
It also went viral. Grotci became a re member. What's up?

1560
01:33:11,079 --> 01:33:16,520
Almost done, babe, don't worry, Jamie's getting all nervous. Last

1561
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:18,520
couple of se which has auditing Ireland five dollars. Do

1562
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:24,199
you believe in an overarching n WO that that can

1563
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:27,840
that it paralyzes people into helplessness. I think some of

1564
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,439
the propaganda, the psyops is intended to, yeah, make you

1565
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:34,279
feel like, you know, to make you black piled. Sure,

1566
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:41,479
I see multiple competing theories encouraging people to action and skepticism.

1567
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:45,119
This sounds like Robert anton Wilson Operation mind Freak.

1568
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 22: Well.

1569
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,159
Speaker 6: I mean, Robert Anton Wilson was a Crollian, so I

1570
01:33:51,199 --> 01:33:53,479
wouldn't trust his analysis. But I mean he's right that

1571
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:58,000
there's controlled opposition and dialectics. But I mean the real

1572
01:33:58,039 --> 01:34:02,159
conspiracy is you know, fallen angels and Satan right and

1573
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:05,439
the order that he's erected to try to create a

1574
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:09,279
one world babble against God and then you know the

1575
01:34:09,399 --> 01:34:12,159
Kingdom of Heaven. That's the real battle. And that relates

1576
01:34:12,159 --> 01:34:13,800
to this next question of Gus is twenty dollars. What

1577
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:15,640
are aliens? Do you think they're Grays and a Nachi,

1578
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:19,039
fallen angels or demons or evil human beings trying to

1579
01:34:19,079 --> 01:34:22,079
fool the masses. I have many podcasts on aliens. You

1580
01:34:22,119 --> 01:34:25,000
can go watch my podcasts on Father Sarah. From Rose's

1581
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:27,199
book Orthodox in the Religion in the Future, there's a

1582
01:34:27,239 --> 01:34:30,680
demonic component, but there's also a black ops psy op

1583
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:32,840
component to it as well, and we've done many interviews

1584
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:35,960
on that angle. Watched the documentary Mirage.

1585
01:34:36,039 --> 01:34:36,119
Speaker 17: Men.

1586
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:40,119
Speaker 6: Okay, let's see. I think we're at the last of

1587
01:34:40,159 --> 01:34:47,920
the superchets here. Ocean whiskers, Jay, thank you? What is

1588
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,640
why exactly the transient argument works in the orthodox paradigm

1589
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:55,760
paradigm you have to watch the video from Trinity, From

1590
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:59,119
Tag to Trinity, that video is designed to do to

1591
01:34:59,399 --> 01:35:03,560
explain that. Can't explain that right now, mister Simpin Simpanage

1592
01:35:04,319 --> 01:35:06,960
Simpoge five dollars a day. I followed you for a while.

1593
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:10,119
I'm a kind of cuman, partly knows, partly thanks to you.

1594
01:35:11,119 --> 01:35:15,319
I'm blocked on your channel. Could have I mean, we

1595
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:17,640
I have mods, so the mods might have blocked you.

1596
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:19,720
I'm not sure, but I'll try to look you up

1597
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:24,319
and unblock you. Mister Simpoge, unblocking hick at heart, No,

1598
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:27,159
we DoD that. Excuse me, bird Brand ten dollars.

1599
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:28,079
Speaker 17: What do you?

1600
01:35:28,359 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 6: What are your opinions on President, Professor Jiang and predictive history.

1601
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:33,439
I mean, I see everybody talking about this guy. All

1602
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:38,479
of a sudden, I heard he's a gnostic, So I

1603
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:40,319
would disagree with that by no, Cote, I think just

1604
01:35:40,359 --> 01:35:41,760
interviewed h I'll have to I'll have to look and

1605
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:45,600
see exactly what his positions are. Last Secretary's jatoine, No,

1606
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:48,960
that was the Truman Show. Yeah, we're gonna do Truman Show.

1607
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:50,640
I think the Jim Bob and I are gonna do

1608
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:53,279
Dark City and Truman Show. All right, guys, thank you.

1609
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:56,119
I will try to livestream again very soon. I don't

1610
01:35:56,119 --> 01:35:58,720
know if it either tonight or tomorrow for sure. Uh,

1611
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,800
we got big interviews, big surprise interviews coming up tomorrow,

1612
01:36:02,279 --> 01:36:04,319
so look for that. Otherwise, be sharing hewit of Chuck

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01:36:04,359 --> 01:36:06,560
dot com. He's from co J sixty Life, JY six

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zero liv and get sixty percent off all those great

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01:36:09,119 --> 01:36:11,319
products and then here come the super jazz. So try

1616
01:36:11,399 --> 01:36:13,760
to wrap it up. Appreciate you guys being so generous.

1617
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:20,399
So Trithemias ten dollars. I believe orthodoxy is true the Orthodox.

1618
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:25,319
I imagine monks orthox, monks on aracus, like the Desert

1619
01:36:25,399 --> 01:36:30,119
Fathers posts Teller Orthodoxy would be traditional. That sounds cool, Gabe,

1620
01:36:30,159 --> 01:36:37,359
ten dollars. How would you rent the diviner? Hidden? This rate?

1621
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:40,600
The divine hidden this argument because it seems like it's

1622
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:44,119
a better argument for the problem of evil. We'll look

1623
01:36:44,199 --> 01:36:46,760
up my video on the problem of evil, and I

1624
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:50,439
would say that would answer that question. I have won

1625
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:53,680
twenty minute video on that slow boy ten dollars. Bitcoin

1626
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:57,159
is dipping. I've been saving since one thirty, but to

1627
01:36:57,279 --> 01:37:01,199
buy on the way, yeah, I mean, in my view,

1628
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:05,039
I'm about to make another stack up purchase. So you know,

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if you want to check that out, there's a swan

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bigcoin link in the show description. Otherwise, thank you guys.