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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, everybody.
Speaker 3: Welcome to I on the Ball hero Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: I'm Steve Rivera in with me today.
Speaker 2: Is somebody recognizable? Jay Gonzaltz? Oh, Jake, I'm here man
Speaker 2: another Friday afternoon. Did you keep kod anything?
Speaker 4: No, I didn't kill anything this week. I didn't do
Speaker 4: a lot of anything. Well that's why, you know, I
Speaker 4: just I just stayed away. Didn't didn't touch the Utah
Speaker 4: game because I thought, you know, well I can't anyways.
Speaker 4: But I mean the issue, you know, we talked about it,
Speaker 4: and I thought if if if I was a gambling
Speaker 4: guy and was, you know, inclined to put something on
Speaker 4: Arizona that game, I wouldn't have given that many points.
Speaker 2: Stayed with fifteen and a half with the ASU game.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah. And then, uh, you know, I haven't
Speaker 2: done much of anything. I've been busy with other stuff
Speaker 2: this week. So I've actually watched a lot more college
Speaker 2: basketball than I do though, just because trying to see
Speaker 2: what's what you know, what do you find there's it's crazy,
Speaker 2: it's nuts, Steve. You know, it's not Kansas isn't any good.
Speaker 2: You know, North Carolina is not really that good.
Speaker 3: And the teams that you thought that were pretty good
Speaker 3: taking it badly.
Speaker 4: You know, and out of I mean, look, Duke is
Speaker 4: really good and we've seen them in Cooper Flag and
Speaker 4: all that.
Speaker 2: But I just don't know how anybody's going to roll
Speaker 2: over Houston. I'm not. I look at Houston and I go,
Speaker 2: those guys are just mean.
Speaker 3: No, no, you're you're right, and they were being astray
Speaker 3: and they got unlucky with their best year getting done.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, I went with I already said people
Speaker 3: what I've done, told people what I've done. I bet
Speaker 3: fifty on Florida got and they could be the number
Speaker 3: one seed overall. Yeah, given what's happened.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've seen them a couple of times and they
Speaker 4: look but you know, and maybe it's maybe it's you know,
Speaker 4: the the the bias towards the league that Arizona is in,
Speaker 4: and you see Houston and I've seen them more than
Speaker 4: I've seen the some of the other top teams. But
Speaker 4: you know, I watched that entire Kansas Houston game, and
Speaker 4: while Houston didn't really pull away from it, Kansas was
Speaker 4: never going to win that Kansas.
Speaker 3: Those both good games both times they played almost a favorite.
Speaker 3: You guys have access to the internet for odds to
Speaker 3: win it all. Yeah, okay, well we'll talk about that.
Speaker 3: Because Houston's good. I like them a lot obviously, but
Speaker 3: they can't score.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they can't score, but they don't let you score.
Speaker 3: Well if it's two to zero and in the final
Speaker 3: two minutes.
Speaker 4: But you know, I've seen Florida a couple of times,
Speaker 4: but you know, Florida's you know, got be.
Speaker 3: Bad the other day, vulnerable to you know, somebody seems
Speaker 3: Auburn gotta beat.
Speaker 4: Yea Auburn, you know, Yeah, I mean so I do.
Speaker 4: I mean, I've seen Auburn a couple of times, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, I still think Houston is the toughest team
Speaker 4: out there. But you're right, you know in a game
Speaker 4: that if somebody puts some points on the board against them,
Speaker 4: they're gonna have a tough time beating them. But I
Speaker 4: just and and I don't see I don't see Arizona
Speaker 4: being any of those teams.
Speaker 3: No, no apples to apples, no did you find it? Yep, okay,
Speaker 3: So give me the top top our odds to win it.
Speaker 2: All they've got.
Speaker 3: By the way, this is Henry and we have Matt
Speaker 3: and today. Matt, we found you on the old milk carton.
Speaker 3: We found you.
Speaker 5: This is on ESPN.
Speaker 6: They got Duke plus three thirty, Auburn plus three fifty.
Speaker 6: Oh wow, Florida plus seven to fifty, Houston plus nine hundred.
Speaker 2: Well, if you were going to bet Jay, I'd take
Speaker 2: the nine to one. Yeah, I put Duke. There's Duke's
Speaker 2: a favorite. Now, Yeah, dude's plus thirty thirty.
Speaker 6: I've got Arizona plus four hundred, four thousand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, four thousand, that's forty one that you know. I again,
Speaker 2: you know, Arizona's not built to win. To win, no, no,
Speaker 2: I mean, can they get on a run and do
Speaker 2: something stupid?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 2: I mean we didn't think ninety seventeen was going to
Speaker 2: do anything right. Well, so they can't. I just want
Speaker 2: to say that.
Speaker 4: But you know, if you say, if you're going to
Speaker 4: try and predict one that's likely to win this thing,
Speaker 4: Arizona's not in that picture.
Speaker 5: To me.
Speaker 4: I think if they get to the sweet sixteen they've
Speaker 4: done good and that I think that's about all you
Speaker 4: can expect. I was looking at Joe Lunardi. He still
Speaker 4: got them as a as a four seed. So if
Speaker 4: they're seated fourth, they're seeded into the sweet sixteen, and
Speaker 4: that's as far as they're supposed to go.
Speaker 3: And realistically, I think we've had those odds too. I
Speaker 3: think there's some odds there. We talked about that. I
Speaker 3: think that was like seven and a half to one
Speaker 3: to get to the sweet sixteen. Yeah, which is you know, okay, okay, possibly,
Speaker 3: you know, and it'd be fun.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm working in the West regionals, so it'd
Speaker 4: be fun, you know, for them to be up there
Speaker 4: for that. I wouldn't be you know, if they if
Speaker 4: they are do make a West A Regional and they're
Speaker 4: in the West Region and I'm there, I wouldn't have
Speaker 4: the same feeling as I had the year they lost
Speaker 4: to Xavier in the sweet sixteen and in San Jose
Speaker 4: where you were. I was just pissed off at that
Speaker 4: game because that team that was a Final four team
Speaker 4: until a Lonzo Treer wouldn't give up the ball. So
Speaker 4: this team, if it got to the sweet sixteen, I
Speaker 4: think that's about all the fans can ask.
Speaker 2: For this year. Yeah, tell that to the fans. Oh no,
Speaker 2: I hear you.
Speaker 4: You know, I was looking at some losers twitter feed
Speaker 4: saying that this season is a failure right now, no
Speaker 4: matter what happens, it's a failure because they've lost ten games.
Speaker 2: He and I'm like, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Speaker 2: They said it's a failure. Fire him, Fire him right now.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, wait a minute, I don't have a
Speaker 2: clue if so he's and he was basically saying, even
Speaker 2: if this team wins a national championship, Tommy's not the guy.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, what are you talking about? How can
Speaker 4: you say something stupid like that?
Speaker 2: You know the internet?
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, exactly, Yes, yeah it is.
Speaker 4: Somebody called my attention to that, and I said, I
Speaker 4: wish you hadn't. I wish I didn't know that that
Speaker 4: guy existed, right. I just didn't want to know that
Speaker 4: that that that person was on the planet. But you know,
Speaker 4: Sweet sixteen is about anything after the Sweet sixteen is
Speaker 4: is house money?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, realistically that's what you kind of thought in December.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're in December, you're right, So what am
Speaker 2: I going to do with March? Nothing to do? And
Speaker 2: you know, and they could catch hot.
Speaker 3: I mean, first people are going to tell you, well,
Speaker 3: ninety seven they didn't blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Well then you give me every other year.
Speaker 4: And then, right, I mean take of all the years
Speaker 4: that they should have done something and didn't. So but
Speaker 4: but you know, Steve, it's it's still been, you know,
Speaker 4: really funnier. You know, you will get to the last
Speaker 4: home game, you know, Tuesday night, and I you know,
Speaker 4: you have all this reflection, right, you know, but just
Speaker 4: thinking about that, it was a really fun season at Michaelvias.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about who did we have in this week?
Speaker 2: Well I had to.
Speaker 3: I think that had Blake. I think we're one of
Speaker 3: those guys. I said, aren't you glad you have tickets
Speaker 3: to these games?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And so we're you were entertained. There were more
Speaker 2: fun games in one in one home season than I
Speaker 2: can remember.
Speaker 3: Tell me Texas Tech, uh all of them? Oh, Houston,
Speaker 3: all these games.
Speaker 2: B YU was a fun game. They got beat but
Speaker 2: it was a fun game. You know. Houston was a
Speaker 2: fun game. They got beat.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, Baylor TC every game, every conference game, pretty
Speaker 2: much was pretty much fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're going to invest in to go watch
Speaker 3: the games just to win a little bit, how boring?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you know the the thirty point blowouts
Speaker 4: over Oregon State in Washington State and cal and stuff.
Speaker 4: You know you'd go to those games and can we
Speaker 4: just get this over with?
Speaker 3: And didn't you in uh, whenever one name of the
Speaker 3: schedule was mis set up. When they joined the big
Speaker 3: You're thinking, this is gonna be fun, this could be fun.
Speaker 3: And it was and it was, and you said, and
Speaker 3: you say, and we talked about it a lot. It
Speaker 3: was that, Okay, it's gonna prepare them ye for what's
Speaker 3: happening March.
Speaker 2: And are they are they preparing to think there? If
Speaker 2: they're not prepared, then I don't know what what you
Speaker 2: know what to do? You're just like the oodle bomber today.
Speaker 2: You're like a bunk shot away. You look like, look
Speaker 2: at him, he looks like the conversation just took a
Speaker 2: sharp left.
Speaker 3: Didn't if you stood up against the ball, He's like
Speaker 3: put a little number in.
Speaker 5: Front of him.
Speaker 2: You should have seen it. When I had the hood
Speaker 2: up in the sunglasses, I got a funny look at
Speaker 2: the stop like, that's just the way this thing, what
Speaker 2: do you call the monk, It's just some of the
Speaker 2: gear that I get for doing what I do.
Speaker 4: Thirty five years Steve wat table. But I watched it
Speaker 4: from upstairs for the first time. Man, that was crazy.
Speaker 4: It's fun behind you had a better seat than I should.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we heard you, you guys talking.
Speaker 2: Hey man, we we you know what, we had a
Speaker 2: good year. Your this is your uh your trial year
Speaker 2: from up there. Yeah, you know it went fine. Which
Speaker 2: it's one of those things where you do such a
Speaker 2: good job, you get to stay in the crap job, right,
Speaker 2: So we're gonna I'm sure we're gonna stay up there.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna move us back down because you know,
Speaker 2: we got off to a little bit of a rough
Speaker 2: start because it was hard, you know, justice to working
Speaker 2: up there. But around after the Duke game, from then
Speaker 2: on we did pretty good. You're like the tape. Are
Speaker 2: you ready for the postseason?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: We we We've actually been asked to go do uh
Speaker 4: possibly do the women's final four up in Phoenix, which
Speaker 4: we might know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, next year, you guys were day to day you
Speaker 2: know that we are we are we we definitely are
Speaker 2: our day to day. Yeah, we're you know, I think
Speaker 2: our average age is bumping up against seventy. I'm the
Speaker 2: young guy on what no Adam is because he's down.
Speaker 2: He's down. But but the three guys that sit upstairs,
Speaker 2: I'm the young guy. Cool. You get more swag for
Speaker 2: your for your didn't get any didn't get any really
Speaker 2: this year, last year? Four?
Speaker 4: Oh oh the final fource. Yeah, and then we'll get
Speaker 4: some at the at the West Regional. Although I don't
Speaker 4: do stats there, but I do other stuff.
Speaker 3: Well now, I mean I'm working at the West Reason
Speaker 3: in San Francisco. Yeah, okay, like, yeah, I'll be working.
Speaker 3: Okay that I'm staying at here in your hotel, take
Speaker 3: a flight.
Speaker 2: I have one king bed. So I don't think you
Speaker 2: are get the cod.
Speaker 3: I'm going with the boys Toicago, dude, I'll be there's
Speaker 3: the chavarone. Oh the interpreter. Actually, hey, that girl's looking
Speaker 3: at me. Try she's not looking at she's looking at me.
Speaker 2: Man. Good. Cool.
Speaker 3: So let me just set up the schedule for today.
Speaker 3: We're going to have a Gary Badore, longtime fan or
Speaker 3: friend of mine, covers the KU team, the the Jayhawks
Speaker 3: for the Kansas City Star. You may remember him, he's
Speaker 3: been there forever. He's older than you and me. I think,
Speaker 3: so that'll be fun. I'm talking about what's going on.
Speaker 4: To yeah, being such at his perspective on what this
Speaker 4: season has been like. It's been certainly something different for those.
Speaker 3: Guys right right, right right. And then he's at three seventeen,
Speaker 3: and then at four seventeen. One of our old friends,
Speaker 3: old young friends, Kelly Pierce from from South Point, talked
Speaker 3: to UH to Wolfgang yesterday and Kelly returned to the
Speaker 3: Winter Circle this year.
Speaker 2: What's that five or six total? Total?
Speaker 3: Maybe four or five? Five because she missed out last year.
Speaker 3: Remember she finished seconds, Okay, so I think that's five. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Wolfgang just finished five in a row.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: So you know, there's a lot of good things going
Speaker 3: on at South Point obviously, so Kelly's gonna come on
Speaker 3: at four seventeen. Hadn't talked to her in two years
Speaker 3: and then more just more basketball and more calls. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so you know, people talking about tomorrow maybe a little
Speaker 3: how about.
Speaker 2: That we have like three minutes, three minutes, this is.
Speaker 3: Enough for a da Obviously, everyone is wondering what's gonna
Speaker 3: happen with her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, behind the scenes, a lot of speculation
Speaker 2: going on out there. One year on her what is it?
Speaker 2: She's got one year left on her contract, right, and
Speaker 2: you know how that goes with one year on contracts
Speaker 2: with the.
Speaker 4: Coach and I you know, and you look, she's been
Speaker 4: great for she's been great for the program, for the
Speaker 4: program as a whole, she's been great for the community,
Speaker 4: has been great for you know, the basketball program and
Speaker 4: what she's done over there. But I don't know that
Speaker 4: this they can afford to continue to pay her seven figures.
Speaker 3: It hasn't sustained the magic she started, right, because let
Speaker 3: me tell you something, in ten twenty years, you're gonna
Speaker 3: she can come back and say, well, she can come
Speaker 3: back anytime, say I created this, Yes, because who would
Speaker 3: have ever thought those people going in like that.
Speaker 4: It's gonna it's gonna take a leap by both her
Speaker 4: and the university to decide what's you know, what's she worth?
Speaker 4: I mean, look, let's face it, and let's just call
Speaker 4: it what it is. If if they want to give
Speaker 4: her a pay cut, right, if they say we can't
Speaker 4: pay you that anymore, that's a that's a pay cut.
Speaker 4: That's almost like a demotion, sure, And is she willing
Speaker 4: to do that or will she say, Okay, I'm willing
Speaker 4: to do that for the good of the athletic department
Speaker 4: as a whole, because I like it here and whatever.
Speaker 2: You know, what options does she have?
Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you something. We had her on
Speaker 3: the show the last time we had a show with
Speaker 3: you and I last summer before this, and we both
Speaker 3: looked at each other and she says, she's being very honest.
Speaker 3: I can't compete with the it right.
Speaker 2: And and that's today, tomorrow and beyond right And does
Speaker 2: she want to continue to deal with that?
Speaker 4: Where if she could go to say the w n
Speaker 4: B A or something where that's not a factor and
Speaker 4: she can just coach.
Speaker 2: So that'll be interesting to see what what happens there.
Speaker 2: And I'm not like, I know nothing.
Speaker 4: I'm not speculating on anything, just senior wondering what's what's
Speaker 4: the move right if if both what's the move for
Speaker 4: the university and what's the move for her in terms of.
Speaker 2: You know what, you know what she's going to do?
Speaker 3: And is there a right answer? Who knows is the
Speaker 3: wrong answer? Who knows right? Because it's all personal answers, right, answers.
Speaker 2: And it impacts both her and her husband, who both
Speaker 2: have jobs here right now, you know, do they go
Speaker 2: somewhere else as a package deal or does well, let's say,
Speaker 2: does she go to the w n b A and
Speaker 2: does sell stay here as a head coach and coach
Speaker 2: you know, you know, but but doesn't make a million
Speaker 2: dollars a year, you know that kind of thing. And
Speaker 2: this is a dumb question because I just thought of
Speaker 2: it now. Dumb question.
Speaker 3: Okay, so she got the million dollar culture twenty two
Speaker 3: I think it was twenty one.
Speaker 2: It might have been the best thing that ever happened
Speaker 2: to her. Might have also been the worst.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, that created an expectation, right, and that expectation
Speaker 4: has not been fulfilled. I mean, she's made the tournament
Speaker 4: every year, but they just haven't come close to that,
Speaker 4: you know what they did a few years.
Speaker 2: That's tough.
Speaker 3: You know, what's that thing much as given or much
Speaker 3: as expected to what much has given?
Speaker 2: And she's a million.
Speaker 4: Dollars right, and she's been again, she's been great for
Speaker 4: the program. Yeah. And when I say the program, I'm
Speaker 4: talking about the whole athletic program.
Speaker 2: You know, the visibility that she's had a lot.
Speaker 4: Of stuffs, right, that attendancy, fans, all the stuff that
Speaker 4: she's done as it relates to you know, the the
Speaker 4: you know, the equity of what's going on in NC
Speaker 4: double A, all of those things. But it's also hard
Speaker 4: to work when you're at Arizona and you're trying to
Speaker 4: compete against the LSUS and whatnot, you know, and the
Speaker 4: money that's involved in this, when people are pouring their
Speaker 4: money into football and basket men basketball.
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to y on the Ball here on
Speaker 3: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, and with me
Speaker 3: today's Jay Gonzalez. Now in the poll we have Gary
Speaker 3: Bador from the Kansas City Star. Gary, how are you good?
Speaker 5: I hope you guys are well.
Speaker 2: We're doing fine.
Speaker 3: We have a little Kansas weather down here, which ups ups.
Speaker 5: How you do it?
Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it, but let me
Speaker 2: tell you something. Go ahead.
Speaker 16: Yeah, So I saw Arizona played Iowa, stayed in names
Speaker 16: a week or so ago. How I wonder how the
Speaker 16: weather was there? That's our trip every year that turns
Speaker 16: into ice and snow. There's always snow on the ground
Speaker 16: and names Iowa.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why. Why in the hell did they go
Speaker 3: to school there? He was sunny and cool all day.
Speaker 3: So Gary, let me take something. So I have Jay here.
Speaker 3: I don't know if and I'm gonna put some context
Speaker 3: behind this.
Speaker 5: He was.
Speaker 3: He covered the team when it was Danny and the
Speaker 3: Miracles in Kansas.
Speaker 5: YEP.
Speaker 3: I covered it when Selim and Candy gate in fog Allen.
Speaker 3: How long have you covered the Jayhawks?
Speaker 5: Thirty five years? I've been.
Speaker 16: I've been adding that up today because I never added
Speaker 16: up and it looks like since nineteen eighty but only
Speaker 16: full time since the first year of Roy Williams. But
Speaker 16: I did cover Larry Brown, you know, half half the coverage,
Speaker 16: and I covered some of Ted Owens as a student. Well,
Speaker 16: I know all their past coaches in modern history.
Speaker 5: Well, we might have.
Speaker 4: We might have run into each other back in eighty
Speaker 4: eight because I was covering the Arizona team and then
Speaker 4: you know, when they got beat in the first round,
Speaker 4: you know I did. We did stick around and covered
Speaker 4: the championship game, So man, we.
Speaker 2: Would have been.
Speaker 5: Fifty to fifty at half time.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that was unbelievable.
Speaker 4: I just remember, you know, I got a chance to
Speaker 4: interview you know, because Manning's dad, right was an assistant
Speaker 4: on that team, is that you know, And got a
Speaker 4: chance to talk to him after the game, and that
Speaker 4: was that was a story that I wrote on you know,
Speaker 4: how how his dad had told him to come back
Speaker 4: for that last year because something special could happen, and
Speaker 4: then it did, and so that that was a I'll
Speaker 4: never forget that locker room.
Speaker 2: That was unbelievable.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 16: Danny Manning, Uh, most young people probably never heard of him,
Speaker 16: but he was the greatest high school player I ever
Speaker 16: saw play.
Speaker 5: He played for Lawrence High.
Speaker 16: His senior year because Larry Brown hired Ed Manning, who
Speaker 16: at the time was a.
Speaker 5: Truck driver but he did have some coaching experience.
Speaker 16: Well Ed moved Danny to town immediately.
Speaker 5: So we got to cover.
Speaker 16: Danny Manning as a high school senior and it was
Speaker 16: incredible because Kansas basketball high school isn't really great. Danny
Speaker 16: Manning six' eleven with point guard, Skills i'll never forget covering.
Speaker 5: That and then of.
Speaker 16: Course he got the one national title here they made
Speaker 16: two final, fours but he got in foul trouble and
Speaker 16: the other.
Speaker 5: One In dallas in eighty. Six, yeah so you cover
Speaker 5: a lot of.
Speaker 3: Games what about, TOMORROW i, mean, well let's talk about the.
Speaker 3: PROGRAM i haven't seen it like that a long.
Speaker 16: TIME i, know it's the second year of double digit
Speaker 16: losses in a row for the first time in the
Speaker 16: Bill self era twenty two. Years so they got double digit.
Speaker 16: Losses but the problem is in The Big twelve they're
Speaker 16: ten and nine And arizona is fourteen and.
Speaker 5: Five so.
Speaker 16: You, know just looking at, that these are two different.
Speaker 16: Teams arizona is going to get a top two or three.
Speaker 16: SEED i guess in The big twelve Tournament kansas is hoping.
Speaker 16: To kansas is going to have to play the first day.
Speaker 5: Wow for the second, day SO i don't think they
Speaker 5: can get into.
Speaker 16: The top group where you, skip where they'll skip the.
Speaker 16: Day so ten and nine in the, league they've lost
Speaker 16: four out of. Six not looking good. Lately they've lost.
Speaker 5: Three home games this, year and that's.
Speaker 16: Alarming so the league's, tough as we, know But arizona
Speaker 16: hasn't hasn't really had. Trouble Their their record is kind
Speaker 16: of like, ky you would really wish they had fourteen and.
Speaker 16: Five that's pretty.
Speaker 5: Good ten and nine not.
Speaker 16: Good especially if some if they lose To arizona ten
Speaker 16: and ten.
Speaker 2: Conference has anybody been able to put their finger on?
Speaker 13: This?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: What? What's you?
Speaker 4: Know what what's happened this? YEAR i, mean you, know
Speaker 4: they they go get you, know one Hundred, dickinson AND
Speaker 4: i mean you just expected great things and then nothing's.
Speaker 2: Materialized what?
Speaker 4: What what do you attribute this season too in terms
Speaker 4: of what's?
Speaker 16: HAPPENED i know they were nine and two and the
Speaker 16: non con played played well and Beating duke In Michigan,
Speaker 16: state AND i really thought it was gonna be one
Speaker 16: of those years where you only lose three or four
Speaker 16: games at that, point one of those special. Years and
Speaker 16: then they drop out of the top twenty five a
Speaker 16: couple of weeks ago and are still. Out but what's
Speaker 16: happened is even though they have good defensive, stats they
Speaker 16: don't force any turnovers to speak. Of you, know every
Speaker 16: game you'll look at the statue five turnovers for the opponent.
Speaker 16: Six Dwan, harris the point guard who started for the
Speaker 16: national title team here has, gone has had two poor
Speaker 16: seasons in a, row so your point guard isn't isn't
Speaker 16: scaring the opposition and Their Zeke mayo the transfer From
Speaker 16: South Dakota state is there two guard or wing and
Speaker 16: he's good but not.
Speaker 5: Great hasn't had a great. Year kJ, adams their senior,
Speaker 5: forward has not had a great. Year and Then Hunter
Speaker 5: dickinson seventeen and ten pretty. Good but if you watch the,
Speaker 5: games misses a lot of.
Speaker 16: Bunnies you, know one of those big men that it's
Speaker 16: not finished well and when he misses shots or isn't
Speaker 16: involved as, much.
Speaker 5: So it just doesn't. Click they.
Speaker 16: Don't they make a lot of incredibly the bad decisions
Speaker 16: with the, ball they throw it out of, bounds and
Speaker 16: they've had. Stretches you, know they had a lot to
Speaker 16: Aj store the other. Day he didn't even finish. It
Speaker 16: and he's been a disaster since transferring From wisconsin where
Speaker 16: he was second Team All big ten AND Aj store
Speaker 16: JUST i don't know why.
Speaker 5: What the deal, is but.
Speaker 16: He hasn't done anything so self rarely even puts him,
Speaker 16: in so it's.
Speaker 5: Crazy but stretches of maddening.
Speaker 16: Turnovers can't can't hit. THREES a lot of games only
Speaker 16: have three or four defense has been, good but you
Speaker 16: can get a three off The. Jayhawks so just one
Speaker 16: of those teams are kind of like a five hundred.
Speaker 3: Team So, gary last TIME i saw, you we saw
Speaker 3: you In boise last. YEAR i think they'd be barely Be.
Speaker 3: SEMFORD i think there's a. GOALTENDING i don't know if
Speaker 3: it was or was, it BUT i think it was a.
Speaker 3: Goaltending Uh, so after those, games after they got beat
Speaker 3: the next the next, Game Bill sell, Said i'm looking
Speaker 3: really looking forward to next. Year, right he really wasn't
Speaker 3: happy with last. Year i'm looking forward to this year
Speaker 3: which he's going. Through does he still feel that? Way
Speaker 3: and AND i how has THE nil played in? This
Speaker 3: Because i'm sure a lot of those players make a
Speaker 3: lot of money and the portal and they're not and
Speaker 3: they're not living up to that, money.
Speaker 4: Right and you got these you got all these planet
Speaker 4: guys that you just. MENTIONED i, mean all of this
Speaker 4: just hasn't come together for, them it.
Speaker 16: Seems, yeah the, portal he's he'd have to get a failing.
Speaker 16: Grade so far on the, PORTAL i don't know. Which
Speaker 16: i'd love to study.
Speaker 5: IT i don't know which college coaches have mastered it.
Speaker 5: Yet but you know the guys he. Got Hunter dickinson
Speaker 5: has been fine except in.
Speaker 16: The one lost, record but Uh mayo From South Dakota.
Speaker 16: State they got a Guy Shaquille moore From Mississippi state
Speaker 16: hasn't contributed.
Speaker 5: Much so.
Speaker 16: The problem with the, PORTAL i think Tom izzo, said
Speaker 16: is these blue blood. Schools you know a guy.
Speaker 5: Will show up in the portal list on A monday and.
Speaker 16: You gotta Get you got to get involved, immediately like
Speaker 16: for an aj. Store they jump right in and they target.
Speaker 16: Him he's second team all big, ten can't. Miss we
Speaker 16: got to get that, guy and you, know you get,
Speaker 16: him and look what he's done for whatever. Reason, Nothing
Speaker 16: so he probably won't even.
Speaker 5: Be here next.
Speaker 16: YEAR i would think he'll transfer somewhere else with his disappointing.
Speaker 16: Season But bill has not gotten good enough portal players
Speaker 16: except For hunter Da, Dickinson so so why it's a big.
Speaker 16: CHALLENGE i don't know How arizona's done, YET i haven't studied,
Speaker 16: it but the portal is challenging a lot of these.
Speaker 16: Coaches And kaye's record has shown not so good at
Speaker 16: navigating the portal or nil.
Speaker 3: Yet so why Would bill say he was not you,
Speaker 3: know he was glad to see that season. Finished he
Speaker 3: was looking forward to the season and we'll look at
Speaker 3: what we see now and then he goes to see.
Speaker 3: It then he goes to Visit Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: State.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, uh he talked to.
Speaker 16: Him he denied that thing about visiting and holding up
Speaker 16: in a in a hotel at the golf.
Speaker 5: Course SO i don't, know but he said he flirted
Speaker 5: with not, flirted but.
Speaker 16: He talked to Os State Oak state more seriously in
Speaker 16: two thousand and eight after they won. It that kind
Speaker 16: of surprised me because IN o eight they won it
Speaker 16: and they had to parade and, everything AND i, thought you,
Speaker 16: know he wouldn't flirt with jobs unless.
Speaker 5: It was THE. Nba and he said in eight the
Speaker 5: talks were more serious than this past. Year that just
Speaker 5: told me, That, wow he might consider his alma. Mater
Speaker 5: if you, know he didn't hang up on him when
Speaker 5: they called this. Time so as far as why he did,
Speaker 5: that if he was looking forward to this year so,
Speaker 5: MUCH i don't know he was looking forward to this
Speaker 5: year BECAUSE aj, store if we were talking last year
Speaker 5: at this, time he was like the number one or two,
Speaker 5: transfer so self thought he was getting him to go With,
Speaker 5: hunter and he.
Speaker 16: Loves Dewan harrison rightly so because he was his point
Speaker 16: guard on the national title team with a bull in kJ.
Speaker 16: Adams SO i think he was thinking this year's teaming much.
Speaker 16: Better he thought it would shoot a lot better because
Speaker 16: they Added Ryland griffin From.
Speaker 5: Alabama he's been, decent but has not been you, know
Speaker 5: hitting threes like some of these guys across the. Country
Speaker 5: so how.
Speaker 2: Is all of this.
Speaker 4: EFFECT i don't know how has all this affected his
Speaker 4: approval rating among? Fans you, know because we know how
Speaker 4: that it can be, fleeting right you can BE i
Speaker 4: mean there's there's people here At tucson who are Saying
Speaker 4: Tommy lloyd ought to be. Fired not just he's you,
Speaker 4: KNOW i mean flat. Fired he's not a success because
Speaker 4: he hasn't won a national championship yet in his first
Speaker 4: three or four.
Speaker 2: Years but what's what's the approval rating for a guy
Speaker 2: like self who has won national championships and has had
Speaker 2: a lot of. Success we're what's his status right? Now?
Speaker 5: WELL i know the thing about, nowadays as you guys,
Speaker 5: know is the social media posts and most of the
Speaker 5: a lot of the fans when your team.
Speaker 16: Lose when their team, loses will immediately get ON.
Speaker 5: X Formerly twitter and blast, away and uh, yeah they
Speaker 5: Criticize self some, Too.
Speaker 16: But they really went After Zeke mayo after.
Speaker 5: The Texas tech, game and it was pretty sad because
Speaker 5: it was racist and a couple of racist posts and.
Speaker 5: Threatening you, know the idiot that'll POST i hope you're.
Speaker 5: Dead you, know it's just, ridiculous And mayo caught. That
Speaker 5: so only a week ago after that game Against, Tech
Speaker 5: mayo missed a three that could have tied the. Game
Speaker 5: self put the, ad put out a, statement And self
Speaker 5: jumped down about nine o'clock that night and put out
Speaker 5: a statement ON x that, said you, know blame, me
Speaker 5: don't blame the. Players so it's been that kind of,
Speaker 5: year you, know when you're talking about stuff like. That At,
Speaker 5: kansas it's got to be one of their stormy. Seasons
Speaker 5: bill has even said he's been the last month you,
Speaker 5: know has been terrible for. Him not not because of
Speaker 5: threats or, anything but it's just how badly they've been
Speaker 5: going and. It but, yeah THEY i, mean if you
Speaker 5: look AT x and the message.
Speaker 16: Boards and social, media, yeah they've done what you described
Speaker 16: they're doing To, Lloyd Tommy. LLOYD i, wish you, know
Speaker 16: coaches make a ton of money and they they're big,
Speaker 16: boys but they should get together.
Speaker 5: And trade stories so they know that it's not contingent
Speaker 5: of radical fan does it? Everywhere, yeah they've got some
Speaker 5: criticism for not winning The.
Speaker 16: Super bowl and they've made it.
Speaker 5: Two years in a, row and they they had their
Speaker 5: share of you, know negativity AND. X.
Speaker 2: Yeah so let me say what what tomorrow.
Speaker 5: IS i just wonder If bill's, self he's so proud
Speaker 5: of a, guy if he does catch wind of any
Speaker 5: of this AND i haven't been able to grab him
Speaker 5: to the side and ask, him you wonder how that
Speaker 5: would affect his love for this. Job, Dude like you, said.
Speaker 16: He talked To Oklahoma, state and if he gets winned
Speaker 16: that there really is something to some fans.
Speaker 5: Being ungrateful and. All that he can go to THE
Speaker 5: nba whenever he. WANTS i know ENOUGH nba people that
Speaker 5: told me he's gotten a zillion offers and at the,
Speaker 5: minute you, KNOW i think he makes so much. MONEY
Speaker 5: i think he's one of the top two or three
Speaker 5: paid coaches that he's probably still very. Happy but if
Speaker 5: you never know how a guy will react if he
Speaker 5: finds out that people are blasting him a little bit
Speaker 5: like probably just the same thing you describe With.
Speaker 2: Lloyd so real, Quick, darry what about?
Speaker 5: Tomorrow what do you, think, Well kansas can lose at
Speaker 5: home this? Year in the, PAST i never did you?
Speaker 5: Know one or two Games max usually, Won Caleb, LOVE i,
Speaker 5: mean is he going to go five for twenty three
Speaker 5: like he did in The national title game AGAINST? Ku
Speaker 5: or is he going to go? Nuts? IS i would
Speaker 5: SAY i saw That arizona lost at K state a
Speaker 5: long time. Ago So kansas's senior, day they've won forty
Speaker 5: in a, row your days at, Home SO i guess
Speaker 5: IF i had to predict with a gun in my,
Speaker 5: HEAD i would TAKE, ku even though by Now arizona's
Speaker 5: established itself as a fourteen and five. Team kansas a
Speaker 5: five hundred. Team won't be shocked at all If arizona,
Speaker 5: wins but because of the forty in a row and all,
Speaker 5: that IF i had to, Predict i'll TAKE, ku but
Speaker 5: will not be surprised at all If arizona.
Speaker 3: Wins, Okay, gary, well thanks a, bunch and lock up
Speaker 3: those kind of.
Speaker 5: Machines that was fun that you work all day that,
Speaker 5: year and then there was the candy machine. Taper, yeah
Speaker 5: that came out of. Nowhere so, anyway IT'LL i think
Speaker 5: it'll be a good. Game ARIZONA ku should be. Playing
Speaker 5: they haven't played since twenty ten, yea and those games
Speaker 5: are really fun back in the. Day and in nineteen
Speaker 5: ninety Seven arizona With biggie beat the number ONE ku
Speaker 5: team In birmingham.
Speaker 16: And an unforgettable game that maybe the best team IN
Speaker 16: ku history thirty four and two only made The sweet
Speaker 16: sixteen made.
Speaker 2: Coach williams cry at the. Podium remember that was a
Speaker 2: tough one he, did THANKS.
Speaker 5: Garyl pierce twenty seven, points but they weren't.
Speaker 2: Enough thanks a, Bunch. Gary we'll see.
Speaker 3: You good to talk to You gary. Later take, Care Gary.
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Speaker 2: to talk To Gary burdoor because you feel like they're going,
Speaker 2: through you, know What arizona went, through both first at
Speaker 2: the end of The loudolsen era and then certainly some
Speaker 2: of those years Under Sean miller where they were just
Speaker 2: kind of, mediocre, Right, Yeah and they're not used to.
Speaker 3: It you, know if you went to a site one
Speaker 3: of Those kansas sites that they're probably.
Speaker 2: Think i'd be losing their.
Speaker 4: Mind and and how much, truth how much stock can
Speaker 4: you put into those rights because the people that go
Speaker 4: on there and say, stuff for the people who.
Speaker 3: Are emotionally you, know they're not overtaken by.
Speaker 2: It they're not the real.
Speaker 4: Fans, yeah you, know and AND i mean as sports
Speaker 4: writers it was hard for us TO i mean we
Speaker 4: heard from you, know the the you, know the the
Speaker 4: real that the fans who are just over the, top you,
Speaker 4: know concerned about but trying to talk to a realistic.
Speaker 2: Fan we didn't talk to, Them we.
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Speaker 2: WHAT i, mean, though you're, right we don't hear from
Speaker 2: the people who are just kind of sort of even
Speaker 2: keeled about, things right news to, say you're not going
Speaker 2: to push it on.
Speaker 3: Them and the thing, IS i say this a little
Speaker 3: time if you if you're a booster with money and
Speaker 3: you blah blah, blah you don't have time to be,
Speaker 3: tweeting and, right you're, Busy, dode you're making.
Speaker 2: Money you're making.
Speaker 4: Money BUT i do, wonder you, know in, general how
Speaker 4: their fan base is taking, this BECAUSE i didn't realize
Speaker 4: that they had double digit losses last year.
Speaker 3: Too, yeah it was very strange when you talked about
Speaker 3: that at the press convers that day because we were
Speaker 3: there In, boise because you, know it was a frustrating.
Speaker 3: Year But i'm really looking forward to next. Year in,
Speaker 3: FACT i was looking forward to it about a month
Speaker 3: into left in the, Right i'm thinking what does the
Speaker 3: coach ever say?
Speaker 2: That and then this.
Speaker 4: Happened, Yeah well he started to make a good, point
Speaker 4: and we didn't we didn't stay on it is this
Speaker 4: whole issue with the, portal, right because you talked about
Speaker 4: how you you, know these guys jump into the portal
Speaker 4: and you've got to go get, them and you got
Speaker 4: to get them right. Now you don't have time well
Speaker 4: right to review film and to to talk to, coaches
Speaker 4: like when you're recruiting a high school, kid you don't
Speaker 4: have the time to do the background work.
Speaker 2: That you need to.
Speaker 4: Do you just, Say, okay this guy's been pretty. Good
Speaker 4: we've seen him ON. Tv let's go get.
Speaker 3: It, well let me tell you. Something let's talk About
Speaker 3: arizona's portal. Transfers isn't Isn't? Townsend that guy he had
Speaker 3: a great game Against kentucky last year in the tournament
Speaker 3: and you're.
Speaker 2: Thinking, oh this guy's pretty. Good, yeah and then he
Speaker 2: goes for thirty in The red And blue game and
Speaker 2: it's gonna be all.
Speaker 3: That he's like bowl mule. Box you, know the guy
Speaker 3: could miss what happened to? Him well he doesn't play and,
Speaker 3: okay that's one one. Dude and then you have Del,
Speaker 3: orso who was a heck of a player at his,
Speaker 3: place scroll out of, points shut the ball out of his, mind,
Speaker 3: right and then can't hit the shot.
Speaker 2: Here, well he doesn't want to get a. Shot he.
Speaker 2: Doesn't it's like he doesn't want to shoot the. Shot
Speaker 2: it's that he doesn't want. To he just can't get it. Off,
Speaker 2: okay so you're, right but, see and that's. It that's
Speaker 2: the danger of the portal because if you're not you,
Speaker 2: know if you don't.
Speaker 4: Hit a bullseye with these, guys what happens to you
Speaker 4: is what's happening To Kansas Hunter dickinson has Been, yes
Speaker 4: he's been seventeen and, ten but he talked about. It
Speaker 4: he hasn't been that. Great it's despite his, stats he
Speaker 4: hasn't been that. Great then he talks about, stores he
Speaker 4: talks about all these guys that you, know you.
Speaker 3: MISS i HEARD i had heard too, officially unofficially That
Speaker 3: niel had been a problem, too because guys are making
Speaker 3: a lot of, money, right And i'm not really caring.
Speaker 2: What it takes money to go get those guys right,
Speaker 2: good takes money to go get those portal.
Speaker 3: Guys jealousy and right where you know this guy's making
Speaker 3: this and doing. That What i'm making this and doing?
Speaker 16: This?
Speaker 2: What, yeah you know What i'm. SAYING i do know
Speaker 2: what to. Say we've talked about that from the get.
Speaker 2: Go you talked about how is you, know is the
Speaker 2: offensive guard gonna block is hard when he knows the
Speaker 2: quarterback is making a million dollars and he's getting ten thousand?
Speaker 3: Dollars, Right, No, no it's it's called human. Nature, well,
Speaker 3: sure you. Know but let's go back To. Arizona so
Speaker 3: here we. Are, here we are facing two programs that
Speaker 3: are storied but don't have a good.
Speaker 2: Story this, year, right, Right, well but there's only still
Speaker 2: got some hope for to at least finish where people
Speaker 2: might be, satisfied and that would BE i don't have
Speaker 2: to get to The elite. Eight oh, yeah, okay people
Speaker 2: will Go, okay that was, Good, okay, right because said
Speaker 2: we were again one step from a final. Four, Okay But,
Speaker 2: henry whether they get there or not is a Whole,
Speaker 2: yeah that's the whole.
Speaker 4: Thing if you as if you put a gun to
Speaker 4: my head right now and said are they getting to
Speaker 4: The elite, EIGHT i would say, No.
Speaker 2: No that's WHAT i was gonna Ask.
Speaker 3: Henry henry's realistic, Here he's a realistic Fan elite.
Speaker 2: Eight it depends who the. Matchups oh, yeah well that's, True.
Speaker 2: Steve they'll sure sure.
Speaker 6: If they Face auburn Or duke and they lose, them
Speaker 6: there's nothing you could. Do but if they lose to
Speaker 6: team they're clearly better, than Like clemson last, year then
Speaker 6: they're gonna.
Speaker 2: Come away SAYING i don't know if they were better Than.
Speaker 2: Clemson but, SEE i don't THINK i don't think they
Speaker 2: can beat any of the projected number one. Seats, no, no,
Speaker 2: no of course not, no, RIGHT i, MEAN i, mean
Speaker 2: can they Beat? Houston they.
Speaker 4: Could let's say today based on what we know, today
Speaker 4: if they Played houston ten times, TWO i would say.
Speaker 2: SEVEN i say they lose, seven, right they win? Three,
Speaker 2: OKAY i say they. Lose they've been too they went To,
Speaker 2: yeah so you know it's gonna be. Hard And houston
Speaker 2: is the fourth of the fore, seed of the four
Speaker 2: number one, seed.
Speaker 3: There's tennessee style is going to be. Obviously matchups are
Speaker 3: always think.
Speaker 2: THAT i, mean you, know when they Played duke down,
Speaker 2: here they were not they were never going to Beat
Speaker 2: duke in that, game you, know down. Here duke just
Speaker 2: did things That arizona couldn't deal.
Speaker 3: WITH i THINK i think they played the duke a second,
Speaker 3: time it'd be a better, chance.
Speaker 2: It'd be a better.
Speaker 4: Chance BUT i still don't think that they would beat.
Speaker 4: Him you, Know auburn would just beat the hell out of,
Speaker 4: them and by THAT i mean beat him up, physically
Speaker 4: Because auburn is a mean team Like houston with with
Speaker 4: a better you, know better scoring Punch. ALABAMA i don't,
Speaker 4: know you, know so, uh you, know and if they,
Speaker 4: go if they go intos the four, seed they're gonna
Speaker 4: have to beat one of those teams in the sweet.
Speaker 2: Sixteen, right and that's where the end of the road might.
Speaker 3: Happen and then if they don't play well in the
Speaker 3: first round or second, round right like we've.
Speaker 4: Seen, Right but then, again who thought That arizona was
Speaker 4: going to beat number one duke in twenty? Eleven you
Speaker 4: know with with, uh you Know, williams with With Derek
Speaker 4: williams and, uh, well what's the name.
Speaker 2: Of the little Cardmo? Jones Mamo? Jones, yeah, yeah count
Speaker 2: come up with that? One you did? Pull that was
Speaker 2: a very nice, pull don't. Remember Jamel, Horn, yeah brongway.
Speaker 3: Jamil, yeah so, foul foul with no time too, good
Speaker 3: funny the things you. Remember, yeah you're, right it's a shot.
Speaker 3: Too he's not buying a beer.
Speaker 2: For exactly exactly, okay But Sean miller right, else let's
Speaker 2: still be.
Speaker 3: Here and why don't we say that breaking news news
Speaker 3: item for breaking? News, okay, yeah so we'll see what.
Speaker 3: Happens are you what's the spread for?
Speaker 2: Tomorrow? Dude do we see? IT i think it was
Speaker 2: three and a, half two and a half for three
Speaker 2: and a. Half what are you doing that can look it?
Speaker 2: UP i don't. KNOW i wouldn't touch.
Speaker 4: It not touching that game Because arizon can, Win arizon
Speaker 4: can win, Big arizona.
Speaker 2: Can, lose. Lose, okay, yeah, YEAH i wouldn't touch. It yeah,
Speaker 2: either what's he over and?
Speaker 3: Under but said and a? HALF i go, over go.
Speaker 3: Over they blew a issue one hundred and fifty, five right.
Speaker 2: They it was ten minutes left when they hit.
Speaker 3: That, yeah and the thing, Is i'm guarding you as
Speaker 3: close as those fourth f.
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 3: That is that a game where you just are? Busy
Speaker 3: you can't, oh non, stop.
Speaker 4: NonStop we stayed with, it, though we, did you, know but,
Speaker 4: uh you, know my my Son, adam who's on the stack,
Speaker 4: crew he sits down at the, table so he's on
Speaker 4: the floor and he's really we got we're on headsets
Speaker 4: and we're relaying stuff back and forth probably every possession
Speaker 4: in the second. Half he was, like, well somebody plays
Speaker 4: some defense because we chat as we're as we're going.
Speaker 4: Along and the frustrating part was was that is that
Speaker 4: you're thinking as is not good enough to be doing
Speaker 4: scoring all the points that they're.
Speaker 2: Scoring even when the game got down to three. Points
Speaker 2: you never Thought arizona was going to lose the. Game
Speaker 2: but THE a they couldn't shake, him AND b they
Speaker 2: couldn't stop him from. Scoring and AND i HONESTLY i
Speaker 2: believe you, know we were going back and forth around
Speaker 2: on the table that none of us can recall a
Speaker 2: game that we. Did And i'm talking thirty five years for, me,
Speaker 2: right were both teams scored in the? Hundreds? No, no
Speaker 2: well this one between these two that Didn't did anybody
Speaker 2: come up with that stat the last?
Speaker 3: Time that was not specific to that, Question but these
Speaker 3: two nuts in seventy, three, right we're back in the.
Speaker 3: Whack and that was. Normal that happened a lot in the.
Speaker 3: Way but you know WHAT i. COVERED i covered sometimes
Speaker 3: some games here for When luke and all them, played
Speaker 3: they'd scored one fifteen one. Ten but the other one
Speaker 3: the other team that not, Right, yeah both teams into the.
Speaker 3: HUNDREDS i don't. Remember forty years, now none of us
Speaker 3: can remember. That, yeah, no BECAUSE i don't think it
Speaker 3: ever happened outside of maybe a, student, right Because miller's for. Sure, no, maybe,
Speaker 3: maybe BUT i doubt.
Speaker 4: It there were a couple of back to back GAMES
Speaker 4: i think he might maybe even in the same season
Speaker 4: Between utah And, arizona where the winning team scored one twenty. Six, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: yeah and That Eric money and those. Guys, yeah it
Speaker 4: was it was like one twenty six to one fife, ten.
Speaker 15: You.
Speaker 5: Know but.
Speaker 4: And but it was it was shocking that that they
Speaker 4: couldn't play any. Defense it couldn't. Happen you know, what.
Speaker 3: At the end of the, Day, jay when you're trying
Speaker 3: to figure out this, team AND i don't know if
Speaker 3: you figured out this, TEAM i don't think they. Have
Speaker 3: they play with their food a. Lot they just do
Speaker 3: with ten minutes left the you, know lullygag and you
Speaker 3: know it's like kids with a spool of. Yarn they
Speaker 3: just kind of play with, them play with it unravels
Speaker 3: and they're and they're. Losing and that's going to Be
Speaker 3: And Dave silver's with me every now and. Again, right
Speaker 3: there's three. Things they can't hit the three, pointer they
Speaker 3: can't defend the three, pointer and there were times when
Speaker 3: they blow.
Speaker 2: Leads they it seems like they lose.
Speaker 3: Interest three or two are going to be the dalpha
Speaker 3: right in a few, games.
Speaker 4: Right when they lose, it when they, lose when they
Speaker 4: lose in the in the N C DOUBLE a, tournament
Speaker 4: it'll we'll chock it up to you to one of those.
Speaker 2: Three, one, yeah one of those.
Speaker 5: Three. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah well, yeah If caleb, Doesn't caleb is gonna have
Speaker 4: to show every, game you.
Speaker 2: Know and that's a lot of pressure on that.
Speaker 3: Guy, YEAH i think do you, think, guys do you
Speaker 3: think he likes that pressure because he shows up sometimes Like,
Speaker 3: ashue he doesn't show up for the big.
Speaker 2: Games. Efford, SURE i think HE'S i think he likes.
Speaker 4: IT i think he enjoys, it but he does he
Speaker 4: doesn't always seem to respond to it or, deliver As matt,
Speaker 4: said to deliver on. It and that's gonna be you,
Speaker 4: know because we talked about THE x, factor, RIGHT i
Speaker 4: still think it's.
Speaker 2: Him if they don't have, him they're gonna have a
Speaker 2: tough time. Winning, Yep, Okay i'm kind of going your,
Speaker 2: way maybe a Little, okay we gotta, go ye, okay
Speaker 2: we'll go and come. Back we got break the news
Speaker 2: and then we Have Kelly peters on the other.
Speaker 5: Side