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Now let's dive into today's episode.
Speaker 2: I'd like to.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show returning champion Cindya said, Hey do, Cidy,
I'm good.
Speaker 2: How are you, Alex?
Speaker 1: I'm good. Thank you so much for coming back on
the show. Last time we spoke, you know, the audience
really loved having you and Joseph great.
Speaker 2: They get it.
Speaker 1: Your audience, yes, yeah, well, I mean last time you
run a couple a couple of things happened in your
life after the episode airin right, Yeah, yeah, blew up
and went to look everything, you know.
Speaker 2: It really blew up. And I'll tell you the most
exciting part for me was reading the comments and how
your audience. You know, we are teachers of teachers with
all this new stuff the way we teach it, and
in the beginning, people weren't getting it, you know, they
just weren't getting it, couldn't grasp it. But your audience
gets it. They're doing it, you know, I mean, I
see these people I'm so glad that she said that,
because that's how I channeled too, or that's what I
went through too, or you know, didn't want to say anything,
you know, So yay.
Speaker 1: Rob, My audience is pretty amazing. Yeah, I see, my
audience is pretty amazing. And I keep hearing it again
and again for my guests about when they interact my audience,
like it's it's not like any other audience they've ever
interacted with before. So it makes me happy. It merely
makes me happy that way. So so I want I
wanted to bring you back on the show because it's
been a while since last time you were on the show,
so there's a few things have changed in the world.
Speaker 2: Since last time, since last time we spoke.
Speaker 1: So first I wanted it because there's a lot of
you know, there's a lot of fear in the world
as a general statement, but there seems to be a
ramping up of fear around what's going to happen? Where
are we going? What do you see from your from
Joseph said, and behold, before we continue, we have to
tell everybody because you and I both know what you do.
Can you explain to people who have never might not
have seen the first episode what you do. And when
we speak of Joseph, who Joseph is, Yeah, Joseph.
Speaker 2: Is a collective consciousness of teachers and they are the
evolved conscious vibration of the Seth and Abraham collectives. So,
you know, as a consciousness. As more focus on the
message in this case of Seth and then Abraham, you
can see how the audiences have just grown exponentially. They're
just you know, so the obviously that consciousness is expanding
within the human collective awareness and as that happens, you know,
are wanting more comes in and so this is part
of our evolution as the human aspect. So they are
teaching from this consciousness and we focus on the journey
to the New Earth and the you know, we kind
of talk about a little bit about our journey through
the third dimension and how we're kind of walking out
of it. You know, we say we're choosing our way
out of it as we move into the next dimension
of experience. So our whole shtick is that you know,
we are all about and we we we example, I
was laugh when they say it say it. We example,
the blending of the vibration of the soul and the
physical aspect. So it's not it's it's a channeling in
that when I am speaking to you, or to clients
or anybody they are, I am focused solely on the
soul vibration of me, which makes them dominant them, makes
the collective me dominant, my soul in all its aspects
of which I am one. So this is our next
step in human evolution, where we are actually up to
this point, the human ever since we dove into the
third dimension the first time we ever got here in
order to expand the universe, you know, span the soul
by focusing on love. We come in. We don't know
who we are, we have no idea, which is the point,
so we can discover more of who we are as
we journey through the third dimension. We call it that everybody.
We got to label everything, So we dive in and
through lifetime after lifetime, we leave, we come back, we leave,
we come back, and every time we come back, we
have expanded this aspect, the physical aspect of the soul
more so so here we are now at fifty to
fifty dominant in the contrast, obviously, you can look outside
and see, which is why every reason is such fear.
Now you know, the more you look at it, the
more it expands in your awareness and you participate, and
then you live a life of fear. We are moving
out of that, and this must be a conscious choosing.
Up to this point, we didn't understand the choosing of
experiences by looking at everything from a vibrational perspective, you know,
universal loss stuff, universal truth, we call it. So now,
up to this point we have been dominantly creating not
only our unique individual physical experience, from the contrast, why relationships,
don't you know? It's a failing real love. That's how
all relationships are. We have all these sayings, you know,
it's how all relationships are. They're just hard. This is hard,
this is hard, and it's just not that way. But
that's what our dominant creative forces. So then we come
in and we say, well, in order to move out
of the contrast, you must shift your perspective, which means
shifting your perspective to the perspective of the next consciousness
realm of consciousness that we're moving into, which has a
different experience, offers a different experience. And when you become dominant,
when you consciously choose to shift your dominant creative force
from the contrast to that of your soul. Then you're
at fifty one percent, and then you're attracting law of attraction.
You're attracting from that vibration, which is love and peace
and joy. And the more you focus on that gain
momentum and that becomes your dominant creative force and you're
creating from. So all that to say that Joseph is
the soul of me, and when I am focused on them,
I'm in alignment. And so it is the collective that's speaking.
The soul is speaking.
Speaker 1: So and when you say that you're connecting to Joseph
and this collective you are channeling. Just so everyone's clear,
I want to make.
Speaker 2: Sure, well that's what, Yes, that's what it's. Yeah, we'll
have a new name for that though, because it's got
a lot of stigma, you know, because channeling, if it's
not if it doesn't look the same way on everybody,
you know, they go, well, I must not be doing it.
And you see people coming out of the ward work
saying that's how I do it too. I hear things too.
I thought I was weird. You're not. Yes, everybody's doing it.
Speaker 1: So when you're doing your process of talking to or
communicating with this collective. You're not a trans channel. You
are actually just asking the question and just coming in
on you twenty four seven.
Speaker 2: Esscentially, Well yeah, yes, they four or five months ago
they started saying, we want to be more involved in
your day to day focus when you're living in your
third dimensional life. This is how we get to the
fourth dimension, by the way, which is why they're teaching me.
We want to be involved, you know, focus on us
when you have to make a decision, you know, get
an alignment and make a decision. That way you path
You create these pathways to the experiences that we have here.
It's how you create your reality. You know, you're creating
experiences all the time, and the experiences come from the
foundational vibration that you're focused on, that you're dominant in
at the time. So when you're dominantly creating from your
soul vibration, you can only experience what that vibration offers,
which is love and peace and joy and excitement and
passion and all that good stuff. It cannot manifest and
out of alignment experience can't create fear from love, nor
can you create love from fear. Two different vibrations, no agreement.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. You know, when you
say vibration or another word frequency, if then being the
same thing, that's why low vibration or low frequency cannot
cannot coexist with a high frequency. They just don't. It's
it's physics. They literally won't be able to deal with it.
I always joke like, that's why you don't see a
lot of yogi's getting melked.
Speaker 2: I love when there's all that. I love when it's
absolutely right, no vibrational agreement. You cannot experience a vibration
that you're not a match to exactly.
Speaker 1: And that's their goal is to raise your frequency as
much as you possibly can, to reach the frequency of
the ascended masters, to go to a higher place where
you're almost beyond at such a high level that some
of these Yogis and some of these masters, when you
walked in the room, if you walked within one hundred
feet of them, you were completely intoxicated by their vibration
or their frequency. Yes, it's it's pretty it's a pretty
magical thing. But we're all going to and we're all
capable of it.
Speaker 2: That's what Jesus all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were all capable of reaching the heights of
these masters. It's just our choice on how we get there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there is called master because they mastered, they
mastered the dimension, right, Joseph says, when you can be
you see, we take these steps. So so far the
human make this really quick. So far, the human aspect,
the physical aspect, has been creating ever since I got here,
dominantly from its contrasting side, which is why we have
chaos and war and famine and abuse, and you know
those are out of alignment manifestations from creating from the contrast.
When you shift. So when you get to the fifty
one forty nine, now you're dominantly creating from love. We
call it the downhill on the roller coaster. You know,
it's all downhill from there because once you experience it,
you know, on a consistent level, why would you ever
choose anything else? Right?
Speaker 1: Exactly, Yeah, and no, you're you're absolutely right, you're absolutely right. Now,
with everything that's happening in the world today, do you
see any or does Joseph see any significant changes happening
for humanity in this year?
Speaker 2: There are significant changes happening daily now and certain there
are pockets of information that are coming through, and depending
on what you're focused on, is the experience you will have.
This is the what's happening in the earth plane is
the choosing the experience that the human collective is creating
dominantly from the contrast. If you choose to focus, there
is what is stirring everything up, but the shift in consciousness.
That is a natural progression. You have shifted consciousness. Consciousness
is many, many, many unlimited times in your experience as
an aspect, so you have to keep in mind that
the more contrast that is being exposed, there is a
we've heard it, we've said it actually that in your
third dimensional world, we would call it a now evolved war,
a cyber war, which is the space you have taken
yourselves too, most of it very very good and some
not so good. In your language. We see it as
the contrast, and we see that the human collective is
creating more and more. However, there is always balance, so
as the shift is happening. This is why we say
that this next step for humanity is a conscious choosing.
It must be a conscious choosing. You're stepping into a
realm that offers a different physical experience. Now, when we
say that, you must understand too that our message is
based on universal truth, and as you know, and as
we've been talking that it is a vibrational foundation where
everything is created and manifested through vibrational agreement. You must
keep that in mind when you are talking about and
thinking about, and participating in and acting upon your goings on,
uh in your world.
Speaker 1: Well, you're talking right now, You're talking a lot of wheeze.
So Joseph is talking through you at the moment. This
is not you talking correct, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all of us. Me being the mouthpiece writ exactly.
It's holding me back. You know, I wanted to be
a little a little more, you know, sassy, and they
hold me. Yes, they usually let me get away with it.
But they're funny. They're funny. So okay, so let us
just say this to you that we will give you
the pathway out of this, uh, this puzzle that you
are creating with Some people say, uh, what does it
look like from your point of view? And I say,
and I say, from the eye of Joseph, it looks
like a traffic jam. It just looks like a big
traffic jam. That's what I feel. That's what I feel
when I see that. Can't describe it any other way.
It feels like a big traffic jam. The only way
out is to choose love. The only way out is
to choose a different vibration from which to create, and
that starts on an individual level. But as Abraham you know,
has been teaching for many, many years, seriously, one in
alignment is more powerful than a million who aren't, because
that one in alignment is creating from the space of love,
the space of the soul, the God consciousness, the Christ's consciousness.
There's nothing more powerful than that. So the only way
that you move from this space, and you certainly don't
have to, You're not going anywhere. You certainly don't have to.
It's a choosing, but you must. You must choose to
focus on love more than fear. That's how you get
into alignment, first of all. But you must choose it
in every moment, and soon you will be a collective
that lives it.
Speaker 1: Now, as of this recording, the April eighth eclipse is
coming down the street down the time. What is the
global impact to spiritual to this to or the global
spiritual energy, the impact of global spiritual energy that that
eclipse is going to do. What what is it Because
a lot of people are afraid of it, of course,
because you know, obviously the aliens are coming, you know,
and the comments coming to destroy us. Obviously any day
now the dinosaurs will be back. But uh, yes, exactly,
so what what effect is this going to have on
the collective as far as our consciousness is concerned, and
just spiritual energy on the planet in general.
Speaker 2: We're going to say it again. We're going to say
it again. It's we like in this too because we've
gotten this question. But we liken this to the generality
and collective belief in mercury retrograde, where people say, get
under the covers and hide, and so this is you know,
we kind of chuckle at that. But this eclipse is
no different than any other eclipse. Some you've experienced, some
you have no idea of. But it is part of
the shift. It is part of the universal movement, and
it offers a new experience. It offers a choice. It
offers a choice. There is not darkness being poured into
your realm of consciousness. There is what you refer to
as darkness. But we see as contrast, it is a
choosing space. And if you see it as then you
will understand to choose your way out. So you can
look at this eclipse as as any universal movement and all.
How as wonderful as your science is, it hasn't touched
on what is available for your understanding, especially about things
like this that happened in your consciousness. But there is
so much more. So we say that this is light
coming in. This is opportunity for change, This is opportunity
for I don't know about you, Alex, but I am
just buzzing right now. Can you feel that? Wow, that's
so cool. Sorry, So we would we would tell you
to move into this space, not unlike any advice we
would ever get. Move into the space of light that
is available, that is is pouring in picture. It like
a picture. A picture is just coming. You can step
in the middle of it.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: You will experience, as you do any universal shift. You
will experience this eclipse as either an in or out
of alignment opportunity. And if you choose the in alignment position,
you will expand your aspect, which is the point of
you being here. You will be consciously choosing to expand
this physical aspect that is you. Or you can jump
in your bed and pull the covers over your head
and wait for it to pass and and and increase
uh expand the fear quotient by choosing it.
Speaker 1: Will the will the eclipse in flo one's individuals, challenges
or personal growth as they're going through life.
Speaker 2: The same answer. Yeah, it's the same answer. It's always
the same answer, because it's a vibrational movement. Your universe
moves by vibration. You cannot have a manifestation without vibrational agreement.
So if you go into this believing that you will,
something's going to happen, some big explode, whatever it is,
some big catastrophe is going to happen somewhere, either in
your personal life or globally, country whatever, you will experience
the fear of that, which means that you are choosing.
You are choosing and creating a pathway toward an experience
when you focus on it. So if somebody says to you, Alex,
this thing is going to be really bad. It's going
to be really bad. You know they're predicting all these
outages and people are going to go crazy and all
this stuff. Same thing happened. And remember when we flipped
over to your two thousand.
Speaker 1: Y two K twelve place was in Plodia nineteen eighty four.
It's constant.
Speaker 2: Fear, right, only manifestations of fear. So it doesn't matter,
it doesn't matter what's going on where you as an individual,
unique physical aspect of your unique soul doesn't matter what's
going on around you. You get to choose your experience
of it. And if you have the perspective of your soul,
which is the shifting of your dominant creative vibration right
into alignment, if you're focused on that, if you're focused
on only alignment, on focusing on being in alignment, and
you're still in the third dimension, and so you're not
going to be in alignment all the time. It's what
tethers you to this realm of consciousness. But the more
you focus on that, that's your eternal soul's pathway, and
all your stuff is there. You know the experiences that
you want to have to expand you know the event.
Your eternal path is event driven, all about understanding who
you are and then living it, you know, those aha moments.
Speaker 1: So many of us are going through, you know, adverse
times in our own lives because of the things you're
talking about about focusing on the fear, about focusing on
the negative, if you will, What lessons can people learn
about through these adversities? Because I don't know about you.
I've learned the most out of the negative things that
have happened in my life. Whether I liked it or
not as was happening to me is irrelevant. Looking back
on it, you're like, thank God, that happened. So what
lessons can people learn from these adversities or dealing with
this kind of stuff on a daily basis?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's getting it seems to be if you
look at it from that perspective, it's getting worse every day.
You know, it's always something every time we turn around
as something else. And I get this question a lot.
It's a vibrational shift. I don't know how else to
say it, and I know it sounds so repetitive, But
when you can shift your perspective about what fear is
and how it creates and what it creates, and how
to recognize that you are creating from it, we prefer contrasts.
Prefer the contrast. Once you understand it from a vibrational perspective,
from the perspective of your soul, it removes the fear,
it removes the judgment. So when you have a thought,
when you have a thought about something, so pick something.
I don't want to talk about politics, I just want
to pick it. It's crazy, right, It's crazy everywhere. It's
just crazy, and it's very divided. So depending on what
side you're on, what you've chosen to focus on. If
that if that focus evokes fear in you, what's going
to happen? Are we going to be okay? Or you know,
oh my god, the price is going to go through
the room, whatever it is, you are creating a pathway
in that contrast to experience that vibration that you're choosing
to focus on. So that is the shift from calling
things fear and love to in and out of alignment.
The first indication that everyone has that we have vibrational communication,
again from the aspects of you, is your emotional response.
And if your first emotion about a situation, circumstance, whatever
new whatever you see is fear, is anger, is jealousy,
is loneliness or sadness, heartache, all those that go with
the contrast. Right, the contrast is the vibrational agreement for
that focus you have. So of course you're going to
create an out of alignment experience from it war ultimately
collective grouping, you know. So if you feel an out
of alignment emotion, which is out of alignment with who
you really are, that is your first indication that you're
dominantly creating from the contrasting side of you, the physical
vibration of you, not the non physical vibration of you,
who is your soul. So it's that that point that
you say, wait a minute, I don't have to choose this.
I don't have to create a fearful experience for myself.
I'm going to choose something else. I'm going to choose love.
Now that's kind of difficult, we're talking about politics. But
you can. I have done it. You can do it,
and that's when you begin to change.
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you, because a lot I get
this question all the time, why do bad things happen
to good people? We all, you know, when we see
it in a movie or we see it in a
TV show, it gets us upset. When we see it
in our own lives. It really irks us what role
does karma have when these challenges face are faced by
good people, because it's it seems like, oh, it's not
fair that this happened to that person. She's never heard
of a fly in her life kind of thing. I'd
love to hear Joseph's perspective on that.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, our perspective of what karma is, of course,
is very different from what is kind of generally believed
in the contrast, and that is that again, the physical
vibration of you you have been collecting through every single
lifetime that you have experienced in the third dimension. When
you kick off, the only thing you take with you
is love, is the loving vibration that you have experienced here. However,
many times it doesn't matter. You have expanded through love,
and so when you die, you take that love with you.
It's the only thing that's in vibrational agreement with your soul,
the only thing that can go with you, right, and
that physical vibration of you lies dormant on that vibrational
timeline until your soul refocuses and we stand up and
we say, okay, we're ready to go again. So then
that's when the next level of expansion happens for the
physical vibration. But you are evidence, I am evidence. Every
human who's on the planet right now is evidence that
their physical vibration is still dominant in the contrast. So
that means that every experience you had, every understanding that
you ever had coming up through the ranks, thousands of
years here evolving and learning new things, new teachings, new parents,
new beliefs, new everything. As the human involves, those things evolve, right,
and you carry that in your physical vibrational makeup. So
when that's what we say karma, that's how we describe
what karma is. It's not a punishment because there is
no judgment. From our perspective, there's no punishing. There's never
anything wrong. There's only vibrational agreement. That's all there river is.
So you know good people, there's no bad person. There's
just in and out of alignment experiences. And so the
fact that that good guy is in the third dimension
is evidence that he has an out of alignment vibration.
Of course he does. He's here, he's in the contrast,
which means part of his vibration is still in alignment
with the contrast, or you wouldn't be here. You cannot
be here and be in the fifth dimension at the
same time. There's no contrast there.
Speaker 1: That's why we come down here is to experience contrast,
to experience, to.
Speaker 2: Experience and understand that you can choose. It's a choosing place.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. So the way you're
presenting karma, I understand completely. What you're saying is that
it's not a punishment like so many people say. But
from my understanding of karma, from my research in well
I've spoken to on the show, is that it's correct
that you're correct that there is not a punishment, but
you choose when you come back into a life to
work out that vibration that is stuck here, like you're saying,
that is aligned with this physical vibration, to overcome it,
to overcome it and to finally choose out of that vibration.
But you have to kind of go through it through
the contrast. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, some people say your it cracks me up.
Some people say your soul plans out these bad experiences
for you. That's impossible. That is impossible. Your soul cannot
create an out of alignment experience, nor would it. It's
pure love, which is why we come equipped with our
ego aspect, who is also pure love. The ego is
the balance, the universal balance to the soul. In the
third dimension, the soul provides us communication, vibrational communication that
results in those first indications. Remember we talked about emotions.
When you see something and it evokes in you an
immediate love, joy, authentic, you know, just beautiful excitement, that's
your soul communicating with you. Yes, yes, yes, that's alignment.
But when we but we are the choosers. When we
choose to focus on, you know, an out of alignment
situation and get all mad and pissed off and stuff,
our ego steps in and says, okay, if you're going
to continue to focus there, Cindy, unique human aspect, pre
will and pree choice. This is the emotion that that
focus manifests, and it's not good, So turn around, make
a U turn. The ego provides the what is referred
to as negative emotion. It's out of alignment emotion because
the soul cannot community. How would we know when we're
out of alignment. We have we come fully equipped with
all this stuff. So the ego loves us. So the
ego warning signs warning, warning, you're out of alignment. Go back,
go back, And that's that negative emotion that we feel.
That's communication with the aspects of us.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, you said something a few minutes ago,
you said timeline in this timeline that is something that
has been talked about, is being talked about more and
more every day. Parallel realities the multiverse. How we spin
off multiple timelines in a lifetime to kind of work
out like should I marry Cindy? Should I not marry Cindy?
Should I work with Alex? Should I not work with Alex?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Every Sindy, And we kind of play those out to
see what actually would happen in those scenarios. I'd love
to hear your point of view on parallel realities in
the multiple.
Speaker 2: First, well, what do you think we're gonna say? It's
all about vitras, all.
Speaker 1: About it's all about by visual grid. I understand, but
can you explain that's what? Can you explain the concept
of because it's really hard for our little brains to understand.
Speaker 2: Current limited understanding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, correct, the idea of parallel realities, multiverse, and even
if you want to go even deeper, that all our
lives are happening at the same time. There is no past,
there is no future, because that is a human constraint.
I'd love to hear if you can explain it in
a way that our limited minds can understand it.
Speaker 2: Think of a ball. Yes, we would say that, of
course everything is happening now only because what do you
think we're going to say, because everything is vibrational and
the energy is moving all the time, all the time,
all the time. You're old enough, you remember the pinball machines, right,
Remember a pinball machine? So you know, if you shoot
the ball off and it's all cock eyed, it's bouncing
off all these bumpers, but it's going really fast, bouncing
off the sides and all these bumpers in the middle.
That's what we refer to as a vulnerable vibration. You're
creating every time you bounce on something but you don't
know where you are. Then you shoot it straight and
it goes straight down in alignment. So if you think
about the universe is always expanding, which and there's unlimited
vibrations in a universe, right, and in order to manifest,
you must have vibrational agreement. And vibrational agreement happens now.
It happens in every single moment. So there's no way
to simply put any of that that anybody would understand
to the degree that it would be as simple as
it really is.
Speaker 1: Mm hm. That makes that makes sense if.
Speaker 2: You think again, well, it doesn't make sense to you,
But if you think about it from the vibrational perspective,
there is only intention right focus, vibrational agreement and experience.
That's our process, that's the process of creating.
Speaker 1: So then what advice? So what advice would you give
someone who is having a difficult time feeling overwhelmed by
the negative things that are happening in the world right now,
Because there's a lot of negative things happening in the
world and a lot of people who are choosing to
connect with those feelings, especially the news, and the news
is not helping. So what would you what advice would
you give them?
Speaker 2: Three words? Turn it off, turn it off, turn it off.
You have to in order again, the only way to
change your experience is to choose a different vibrational component
from which to create. It's the only it's the only
way to change your experience. And it's not changing it
that's already created. Abraham calls it, it's old news. Manifestation
is old news. Right, it's already done. That's the vibrational agreement.
Here's the experience. Have at it. So you have to
shift your perspective. You have to. And people say to
us all the time, it's too hard, can't do it's
too hard, and we say, you don't have to do it.
But this is why you're creating and creating what you're
creating over and over and over and over again, and
it gets more intense because the more you focus on it,
the more momentum you're building from the out of alignment
vibrational pattern you got going, and the path just widens,
It just keeps widening, and everything that is in alignment
with what you're creating, which is out of a alignment,
will manifest for you experience after experience, ultimately in your body.
Ultimately you get ill because you are causing your cells,
which are reacting to your vibration, to be out of
alignment as well. There's no good ending to that. There's
no good ending. You just have to shift your perspective.
You have to change what you're doing. Now, turn off
the TV, go to a funny movie, put old sitcoms on,
whatever it is you've got to You got to take
yourself out of the space. Nobody can do it for
you well with people.
Speaker 1: And I've had this happen to me in my life,
and I'd love to hear your thoughts about it. And
I think most people have had at one point or
another when people around you who seemingly are extremely happy
and they get ill, they get deathly ill, sometimes leading
to passing cancers and things like that. But they're good people,
they've done good things, all this kind of stuff, and
it's obviously obviously no. But but again that thing that
was telling you, why did bad things happen to good people?
But why would if you're not aligned vibrationally to cancer?
How did cancer enter the conversation? Is my question to you.
Speaker 2: So now we're going to say so after everything you've
heard us say, you answer that.
Speaker 1: It's well, it's frequency, it's vibration.
Speaker 2: I get that.
Speaker 1: So the person is, whether they know it or not,
in vibration with that illness.
Speaker 2: Again, Evan you're here. We're all here. You're on this earth.
You have contrasting vibrations as your physical we're still in that,
we're still journeying through it, you know, but we're still here.
We're still here. So of course, when something uh triggers
and old, it could be a vibration, could have been
from an experience you had five thousand years ago. It
doesn't matter. There's no time. It's in your physical vibration.
And as something triggers it, something somebody else gets sick,
or somebody had a friend that was scared to death
getting cancer. She was on the internet every day, every day,
going to doctors three or four times, just part and healthy,
you know, played golf all the time, just healthy, healthy.
Well guess what happened, you know, she got cancer, of course,
and I kept telling her, you got to stop, you
gotta stop. I just I'm going to avoid that. I
don't want it. Well, that's an invitation. Her focus is
the invitation.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
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Speaker 2: This is why, you know, so back to your question.
That's what you know. People say, well, how come a baby,
you know, how can a baby well, the baby has
picked up that physical vibration. That's what keeps it tethered. Here,
we have a physical vibration that is dominant. Our bodies
are a manifestation of our unique vibration, the health of us. Now,
that doesn't mean she can't heal. Everybody has the ability
to heal itself, itself, everything, everything. To have the ability,
you have to have the belief and you have to shift.
Speaker 1: Well, the placebo effects. It's like the placebo effect. You
have to believe it.
Speaker 2: You have to believe it. And the funny thing is
is that the more you start focusing on your soul's beliefs,
the more you are consciously really shifting your physical vibrational
makeup to be fifty five sixty seventy eighty. And then
doors start to open, and then you're you know, you cannot,
you cannot be in alignment consistently and be ill because
the body heals itself. The body, the cells of your
body are reacting responding to what you are focused on.
Focus is so important, you know, it's really the creation
of everything.
Speaker 1: So n let me ask you this, how are the
wars and the conflicts that are happening globally affecting our
collective spiritually.
Speaker 2: Well, it's an opportunity again, you know, we see it,
those of us who watch with compassion as observers and
holding a light. It's odd for me to say that
because I don't. But when you hold the vibration, if
you're watching something that's going down on TV or whatever,
and you you know, all these things have been happening
all the time for the past several years, and every
time you look at the you go, I can't believe this.
So where you're going to go? Then where you're going
to go? You're here, So you can either choose to
focus on how bad that is and oh my god,
I got a call. Did you see what happened? They're
forty three people down. You just start this pathway and
you throw yourself back in the steaming pot again, you know,
and mix it up with all those people. There is
an opportunity to So now you're looking at what's going on,
and now you step into your soul's perspective of compassion
and love and peace, and you hold the peace, and
now you can observe it as an experience of a
manifestation for these people, and you have your own experience
of what you're seeing, and you hold the vibration of
your soul still human. You hold it with compassion, not fear.
You hold it with love of your own understanding of manifestation.
Speaker 1: We're speaking a lot about vibration and frequency in this conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think right.
Speaker 1: Is there a vibrational charge or frequency charge to an
eclipse astrologically to the planet itself. Is there a changing
of the energy because of it or the frequency because
of it? Sure?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because it's the movement that changes it. It's
the movement and the direction of the energy. But also
what changes it for the human collective experience in all
our unique ways and collectively to all simultaneously is the
focus on it. So we would say to you that
if everyone who was planning to watch it or watch
it on TV, or step outside even if you're not
in the place and feel the energies of it, if
everyone who was doing that was holding a place of love,
it would shift the collective immediately. It would shift the
vibration of the collective to alignment. Now, how you how
long you choose to hold that vibration is up to you.
The whole thing is up to you. But We'll tell
you that if everyone was doing that and focused on
alignment while viewing this beautiful universal shift, it's part of
the shift from the position of alignment. Every single human
who is holding that vibration and focused on the shift
of the universe would expand simultaneously.
Speaker 1: Can you explain to people who don't understand what is
happening currently for humanity this consciousness shift that we've been
to me talking, Can you explain it to somebody who
doesn't really understand what this means for humanity itself as
a collective and for the individuals inside of it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's exciting, It's really exciting. We describe it like
this again, when you first dive into let us start
in a new place. There are unlimited aspects of your soul. Right,
we refer to God as the collective soul, which is
you know everything, just everything. So you, Alex have a
unique soul, sind He has a unique soul. Everybody has
a unique soul, and you are a unique aspect of
your unique soul. So you brand new to the third
dimension right out of a desire of your soul to
expand itself. As Love says, how else can we do that, well,
let's create a new aspect that can go figure it out.
And as that aspect expands in love, so will we.
So the aspect dives into the third dimension, and it
comes in knowing nothing about who it really is, which
is the manifesting and expanding of itself through its own
dominant creative force, which at that time is ninety nine
percent in the contrast one percent love, because it has
no idea who it is. And as it journeys through
this contrasting dimension by choice, leaves comes back thousands of times,
thousands of times unlimited experiences of this dimension of contrast.
And as we are moving through those timelines, all in
vibrational alignment with the contrast, but all different and unique. Okay,
but they're still dominant in the contrast. So they're here,
we are moving through them. We are walking through the
third dimension out of it. Right. So as we leave
and come back, leave and come back, we are always
expanding through a shift in our consciousness. Every single time
we come back, we have expanded by way of our
soul's expansion, the collect of us. So every time we
come back, we're evolving, evolving, evolving, We're always evolving within
the third dimension as this aspect. Now, ah, there comes
a time when we realize we get to this level
of understanding, level of knowing, as we've expanded by way
of our soul, more of who we really are, and
we say, wait a minute, we're the ones that are
creating this. We have the choice, We have the power
of our soul. We are an aspect of our soul.
Let's figure this out. What the hell are we doing
so now, so all those timelines we're experiencing shift in consciousness,
shift in consciousness, but we didn't pay much attention because
we're still in the contrast. But now here we sit
on the precipice of a new experience as the physical
human of the soul, the fourth dimension. The numbers are
labels you have assigned. Will use them. It's an opportunity
for a different experience as the physical aspect of you.
Of course, you keep expanding, so now you sit on
this precipice of the fourth dimension. And when you're this
is a conscious shift. That's why we're conscious of it now.
It must be done consciously. And when you are dominantly
creating from your soul's perspective, that fourth dimension is the downhill. Slide,
and you go from fifty one fifty contrast soul to
fifty one forty nine soul contrast and then it's all downhill.
Then you go sixty forty seventy thirty. This is the
experience of the fourth dimension eighty twenty, and when you
hit the one hundred percent mark, you're in the New
Earth vibration where there's no contrast anymore. So, in essence,
it's a walking out of the fog. So walking out
of the fog, and the more you evolve, the less
dense you become, and that's mastery.
Speaker 1: So essentially we are on a rudimentary level where God's
algorithm in a sense.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense well your own? Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 3: As an algorithms, as you as explaining it, I'm like, well,
I said on a rudimentary level, I said, very basic level.
Speaker 1: The soul is much more complicated than an algorithm. Please
don't say anything in the comments. We will say we're.
Speaker 2: Much more simple.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what I mean, in the sense,
it is kind of.
Speaker 2: Like that in many ways, Well, you're creating it. Yeah,
you're creating it. Now we know we're creating it, right,
Jane Roberts, you know, Seth back in the sixties said,
look what you guys are doing. You know you're creating this.
Look how long it took us to get it? Wow?
And so now we get it, you know, we get it.
People don't really understand a lot of people still don't
understand how you create your reality because it's a process.
It's an under it's a process of understanding who you
really are. It's an unfolding that never ends or eternal,
you know. So I say, the sooner you get it,
the better off you are, because it much more fun
to live from the space of being dominant in your
soul than it is the other way around. So that is.
Speaker 1: Probably one of the big mistakes that people took away
from a movie like The Secret or the concept of
law of attraction, whereas they focus on the physical aspects
of things to manifest and create their reality. But the
truth is that they need to understand who they are
and the c and when they understand who they truly are,
and that fog starts to lift, then the creation process
of your own life is a vibrational thing where you
are aligned with whatever vibration you are at the moment
and continuously choosing, exactly choosing, that's the word, and that's
how you begin to create the reality. But if you
are sitting in a third dimension little place and trying
to create in a fifth dimensional manifestation, it doesn't work.
That's why the law of attraction and the secret didn't
work for a lot of people. It did for some,
but not for and it might work in some aspects
here and there, but to truly control the creation of
your reality, you need to be aligned at a high level.
And then when we talk about the Masters, the masters
are so highly high frequency that they are truly physically
even sometimes creating the reality around themselves, even to the
level of Ababa Ge, who literally you know, is building
castles out of thin air. Because there are such at
a level that they can do things like that. Does
that all make sense?
Speaker 2: Of course, yes, because they understand vibration. They understand vibration,
and you can, you know, in meditation or when somebody
does a past life regression. You know when I did.
I did a few of them, and they're kind of wild,
but I'll tell you I understand that that is a
it's a choosing to hop on another timeline, check out
what was going on over there, you know. And when
you're in alignment with your soul, now we would say
that you are choosing your alignment because you're always in
alignment with something and if you are in a light,
if you're in alignment with the contrast, you're also experiencing
the contrast.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So if you take out the judgment and look at
it from the inner or out of alignment choosing and
the experiences that manifest from those choices, you begin quickly
to take control of your choosing and your focus and
you understand and then you start to see little things happen,
you know, starts to see little things. People expect too much.
They don't understand that this is a complete shift of
perspective that's happening. Now, that's what it is. It's a
shift in the human perspective of contrast where there are
no uh, you know, there are no sayings like life
is really hard or you have to work really hard
to accomplish anything. And if you don't look like this,
then you're not. You know, people buy into this unworthiness
kind of muckety muck, you know, and it just spreads
all over the place. But you're but that's alignment with
contrast an experience of it.
Speaker 1: Do you see any spiritual movements or awakenings happening in
this year or if not this year, in the next
the rest of this decade.
Speaker 2: Imagine that you are asking if there will be a
spiritual event that will wake a lot of people up
at the same time. And we say that happens on
a daily basis, and it has been happening since you
stepped foot in the dimension you're experiencing.
Speaker 1: Now, fair enough, fair enough on all, Well, we'll just
add to that said I was gonna say, we'll just
add to that that many there is what you would
refer to as a mass awakening happening.
Speaker 2: Now you see it in your own success. You see
it in your own creation and the ease. Although we
know we're watching, but we know the effort that you
are putting in, and we know the joy that you
are finding also that it brings to you. And so
you are feeling you are experiencing the expansion of the
collective in your unique way by the expanding of what
your purposes and your own focus is expanding. And as
you are expanding. You are experiencing the unfolding of this
amazing manifestation that you are living and creating in every moment.
That is your best evidence of a spiritual awakening. If
you are anticipating the physical appearance of Archangel Michael, he
is there all the time. And if you are, if
you will, if you will, carry a belief that tells
you you can see him, you will see him. You
are so supported by the masters, the ones you call
the masters. They are aspects of all of you. They
are aspects, and they are sharing and emanating the love
for your planet at this time, knowing the struggles that
you are having and saying, come this way, come this way,
Come this way, and this way is the way that
Jesus spoke about. And the way is love. The way
is joy. Joy. It is joy. That is what the
secret left out. It's not the material things. As soon
as you attach a monetary you can't. It's a monetary reward.
You are out of alignment with your soul's desire of joy.
You see, there's no vibrational agreement. There's once in contrast
and once not.
Speaker 1: What part does shows like mine and others around the
world play in this awakening that we're going through because
we are alternative media. Shows like mine are alternative to
the fear of mongering and the misinformation a lot of
times that you hear from the mainstream and it's not
I mean, I'm one small part of this giant, giant
movement in regards to shows like this podcast, all these
kind of things around the world. Can you explain to
people what this means for this this awakening that we're
all going through.
Speaker 2: Well, it is evidence again, it is evidence of the
focus that is being shifted. It is the evidence because
every show, whether it resonates with you or your audience,
every there is a purpose for everyone who's stepping forward.
Everyone has a purpose, Everyone has someone seeking them. And
if you look back over the evolution just in the
last hundred years, the evolution of the awareness of this
kind of stuff that we all talk about and we
love to talk about, right, we come here so we
can hear somebody talk about it because we can't talk
about it out there. Well, the out there is getting
more much smaller, and so you will at some point
in the not so distant future, you will become a
part of the main stream. Because your mainstream is attracting
its mainstream. The more people who are focusing on and
there are millions, the more people and growing every day.
But the more people who are focusing on your show
and shows like yours, the more teachers are stepping forward,
and you are creating what we refer to as a
collective grouping of this love vibration. You are the ones
who will move. You are the front front runners. You're
leading the pack. Esther refers to it as on the
leading edge, yes, and Cindy refers to it as the
machete cutting the new road ahead. Because we don't know
where we're going in this particular shift, which we'd like
to add to our answer that we left off beare
for is that we have shifted consciousness many many, many
many times this time. We don't know how to live
without fear, which is why we need a fourth to mention.
We need a buffer zone to learn how to do it.
And this is when you shift your consciousness, you don't
live and there's no fear there, so you can't experience it.
And the more you know about that, the less you
choose it and you walk yourself out.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor
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Speaker 2: Anyway we want to so that all plays into the
growth of the quick growth everything. Trust us when we
say everything that is happening now, regardless of your perspective
of it, is assisting humanity and moving forward. It is
presenting choice, big choice. And you are watching people flood
to you. People are flooding to the vibration. Your whole setup,
your whole intention from a vibrational perspective is in alignment.
You can see that you're experiencing. Everybody sees it. Everybody
sees it is. It is the evidence and the exampling
of building an in alignment. I don't like the word business.
It's not a business. It's a It's a platform that
is offering choice for people. You're offering information and it's
this is what this next segment of the human collective
journey is is a choosing, a conscious choosing. So in
order to choose, there must be opportunity to choose. And you, guys,
step up and you say we're over here, and people
flood you do you.
Speaker 1: I had this thought the other day, and I'd love
to hear your thoughts about it that one day in
the distant future, maybe not so distant our ancestors or
are not ancestors, would be the predecessor. What's the opposite
of ancestor the ford versions of our Yeah, the generations
behind us. Hell, the people in front of us. Yeah,
all the generations in front of us, you know, four
or five generations ahead of us will look back on
the show like this and find a quaint and find it.
Oh wow, they needed this. This is all fundamental.
Speaker 2: Now we'll know. We'll stop you there and we will
say that, we will say that they will look they
will look at it with love and joy because there
is no judgment from where we're heading. There is no judgment.
There is understanding, and there is love, enjoy and excitement.
Knowing that these these this platform that you are creating
and these uh, this it's gonna be huge, first of all.
But this whole thing around the world, it's like it's
like God, is that even possible?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: They have those the circle of people around the world.
They're all holding hands, and they're in the water, and
they're all over there walking on the water and they're
just area. This is what I'm seeing. This is a
big it's a it's a big connection. So it's a
worldwide connection and derailed.
Speaker 1: I totally derailed around around the that it would be
people from other generations will come back.
Speaker 2: This is quick. Oh my god. Yeah, so it will
and oh yeah yeah worldwide, it will. It will. I'm
gonna say it's kind of Bible ish in that it
will last that long. It is a teaching tool because
if we're if we're all all the teachers, everybody listening now,
we're all cutting edge, right, we're all moving forward, we're
paying attention, and we're all expanding. Well, if we're the
first set at this level, not the first set, but
we're in the group right where the newcomers coming in
and we're all teaching something different. But there's always going
to be somebody at this level of understanding.
Speaker 1: HM.
Speaker 2: So you you provide that first level and then you'll expand,
and you expand, you continue to expand your knowing. You
continue to expand your own knowing, which expands your manifestation,
which expands your teaching, your whatever you're doing there big.
Speaker 1: This is the ABC's of in many ways, the ABC's
of spirituality, of movement, of higher consciousness. And you're saying
that there'll always be if you're here in the third dimension,
there will always be someone just getting here, just starting
this process while it happens now every day. Things that
we've spoken about in this conversation are you to you
and me are very fundamental and almost it's almost like,
don't even think about it. Yeah, but there might be
twenty things that we said in this conversation that will
make someone's head explode because they have never heard it
before and been they've been waiting for it. So yes, yeah,
and it will resonate with them in a way that
it doesn't resonate for us anymore, because you and I
have already gone through this level. You know. It's kind
of like, oh, yeah, we understand frequency, we understand this vibration.
Oh no, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2: It still feels fantastic. No.
Speaker 1: But and I'm not saying that is a better or
worse thing, because I'm just saying it on a just
on a different scale of we're all learning. There's things
that I I might know that you don't, and things
that you don't that you are you know that I don't.
Everybody everyone's learning at different levels about everything. So I
like that I never really thought about that. I guess
I was a little too polyannic that five or six
generations from now, everyone's evolved. There's no anything.
Speaker 2: Everything's fantastic because you're always going to be looking ahead.
You'll always be looking ahead, you know, which is why
we're saying look ahead, look ahead, don't look don't look back.
There's no looking back. Can't unexperience something, you can't unlearn something.
Everything that we've experienced and learned and understood and created
from has gotten us here. You know. Now we know
we can create new stuff. You don't change the old stuff,
you create new stuff.
Speaker 1: Cindy, do you have any party messages for the audience
that less things that you really want the audience to
take home with them after this conversation?
Speaker 2: Yes, self, love and you know people. I was one
of them. Joseph was in the beginning Love Yourself. I
just blew it off. I didn't said, I don't even
know what that means. I don't even know. How can
you expect me to experience Somebody used to yell at them,
how do you expect me to experience something when I
have no idea what that means. I don't know how
that feels? And they said, how do you think it
feels and that started a new journey. But self love
is so important because we have all these contrasting vibrations
in us. You know, the war unworthiness is the probably
the biggest one that most people have in some form
or another from this lifetime or another doesn't matter. And
you know, finding out and discovering who you really are.
And you know that's like alignment is self love. When
you're in alignment, you feel the love of your soul.
You know, which everybody wins from that, you know, because
when you're focused there, you're creating from there, and you're
creating love. You're creating space for people to love, you know,
to experience love. It's the most important thing, you know,
it's it's a creative force powerful. So I say focus, focus,
focus on.
Speaker 1: That, Cindy. Where can people find out more about you
and the amazing work that you and Joseph are doing
to awaken the planet.
Speaker 2: Everything is on our website, Teachings of Joseph dot Com.
You can get to our YouTube from there. The books
are there. Join us on Instagram. There we post quotes
every day there. Yeah, one stop shopping, no shopping, one
stop info, one stop. Yeah. We love love it.
Speaker 1: Sidy's been such a pleasure and honor talking to you again.
Thank you and Joseph for everything that you're doing to
awaken the planet, and I truly, truly appreciate you. So
thank you again.
Speaker 2: Head hell Man, thank you, We appreciate you too. Thanks
for all your daily.
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