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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 2>They're good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Iron the Ball here

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<v Speaker 2>on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and with

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<v Speaker 2>me today is my Tuesday guy, Dave Silver and we

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<v Speaker 2>got our guy Ryan as well, my Tuesday guy. Good afternoon, gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to continue to beat a dead horse?

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<v Speaker 2>What's what's that? What's the horse? It's a horse that

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<v Speaker 2>got beat by Texas Tech. Oh okay, save a horse,

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<v Speaker 2>rad a cowboy.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty impressive performance for them to come into town and

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<v Speaker 3>do what they did. Was it that or was it

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<v Speaker 3>the other way around where the other guys couldn't got

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<v Speaker 3>the turnover graituation right?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think I think you can bring up

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<v Speaker 2>a point, whether it's by accident or whatever. But you're

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<v Speaker 2>right because it takes two right two teams. Texas Tate

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<v Speaker 2>played pretty well. Texas Tech and what I say, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know Texas State, that's what is out like Texas

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<v Speaker 2>Tech plaid pretty well. That side is not being ignored

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<v Speaker 2>by those who know UH and Arizona didn't play that well,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know the Texas had to play well to

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<v Speaker 2>get to to get the win. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean the Wildcats had those turnovers, and especially

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<v Speaker 3>was sad because it was a couple of their best

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<v Speaker 3>players who've been so good for the last few years.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of a shame it came down to that, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, you can't have turnovers, and that's basically what

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<v Speaker 3>cost them the game because they had more yards, they

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<v Speaker 3>had the ball a lot longer, they just could not

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<v Speaker 3>convert and obviously they were just kicking field goals most

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<v Speaker 3>of the game instead of scoring touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, no, I brought the two guys up. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you can't rely in your guarantees, it's trouble. The

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<v Speaker 2>capes were not there with with t Mac and the loop, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of depend on them. What you messed up?

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<v Speaker 2>That never happens. Yeah, and Noah.

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<v Speaker 3>But two interceptions interceptions the three key guys. Yeah, those

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<v Speaker 3>because Arizona's counted on all all along the last couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe you think, if you're an Arizona fan, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a one off. But that's not the disheartening part of

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<v Speaker 2>this concerning part uh is the is the the thought

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<v Speaker 2>that he said that they don't even know what they're

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<v Speaker 2>doing running. Yeah, you know, it's like the three students,

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<v Speaker 2>whyse guy, you know how they go in those in

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<v Speaker 2>those directions. Yeah, and he kind of explained it a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more. But everybody's doing it apparently, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to fix that sooner than later. But you've

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<v Speaker 2>been here longer than me, Dave. You've lived it, you've

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<v Speaker 2>seen it, you've kind of defend it in your your

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<v Speaker 2>capacity of being working for the UBI. That and I

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<v Speaker 2>say this a thousand times. People are probably listening to

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<v Speaker 2>shut up Steve. When they don't expect to win, they

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<v Speaker 2>get it. When you don't know what's going to happen,

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<v Speaker 2>they lose it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's kind of the beauty of sports, especially at

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona in the last fifty years. It seems like those

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<v Speaker 3>games that they don't always expect to get the victory.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll go out to USC and win a football game,

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<v Speaker 3>right a b YU this week, and who knows what's

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<v Speaker 3>going to happen to Utah? Go to Utah and do

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<v Speaker 3>what they did a couple of weeks ago. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's kind of the nature of sports. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>Texas Tech probably, who knows how they felt coming in

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<v Speaker 3>They were had a good record, they were underdogs and

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<v Speaker 3>you know they held their own right.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and there's no better team that's an underdog than Arizona.

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<v Speaker 2>We're also no worse team as a favorite, yeah, than Arizona. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>The funny thing too, I guess I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was Brian Peterson and one of the

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<v Speaker 3>local guys mentioned how yeah we have He's talked about

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<v Speaker 3>how they that was the number one twiss that loss

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<v Speaker 3>after they beat a top ten time, it's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked to that was the number one tweet and

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<v Speaker 2>I told her that that was the tweet of the

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<v Speaker 2>night because it's true. Let me tell you if you

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<v Speaker 2>did that for basketball as basketball, guess what you'd find

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing. How in the world do you explain

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<v Speaker 2>ninety seven and then come back and say, how do

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<v Speaker 2>you explain ninety eight? Yeah? Same difference, Yeah, same same situation.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're when you are the favorite team and you've

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<v Speaker 3>knocked off all kinds of you know, good teams ahead

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<v Speaker 3>of that, and then all of a sudden you turn

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<v Speaker 3>around laying egg. It's just kind of kind of the

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<v Speaker 3>nature of sports sometimes, especially when you're dealing with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Year olds, right right, I think it happens as you

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<v Speaker 2>get older. But you're right. I mean, I think the

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<v Speaker 2>big head, we can get this, don't worry, we can

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<v Speaker 2>do this, don't worry. And then what happens, Well, you

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<v Speaker 2>start to worry when you're down by ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, you know, they had their chances, and they

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<v Speaker 3>did make a nice comeback and actually take the lead,

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<v Speaker 3>and then it just kind of evaporated there when they

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<v Speaker 3>really had a chance to put them away. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, hopefully they'll learn from this and we'll forget

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<v Speaker 3>about it and see what happens in the next month

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<v Speaker 3>or so.

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<v Speaker 2>So I said this history, So, Dave, how many learning

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<v Speaker 2>lessons do you need six weeks in? Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I sound like a coach. I don't know. They well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the ya all, they'll learn from this. Well, really,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you know for sure that they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>learn from this? I think you were with me last

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<v Speaker 2>week and I said, I said to Mike yesterday and

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<v Speaker 2>the week before. Okay, they're they're three and two, four

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<v Speaker 2>and two? What are they? What? I three and two. Whatever?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you trust this team? Do you trust going into

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<v Speaker 2>last week? Do you trust this team? Paid three mediocre games,

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<v Speaker 2>got beat by badly by Kenn State, then they paid

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<v Speaker 2>really well against you Testes. So you have that in

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<v Speaker 2>front of you. It's like a racing form, right, Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe this horse can do it. And you think, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I want to put my money on

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<v Speaker 2>this horse, you know, raging Bull, because I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>he's a rage here, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Caught me off guard this week. I think everybody in

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<v Speaker 3>the stadium was excited. He was the The eight pm

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<v Speaker 3>starting time made made things for a very long night.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I was actually there. I have to admit

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<v Speaker 3>I stayed until the last turnover for the There was

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<v Speaker 3>like a minute and a half to go. They still

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<v Speaker 3>scored another touch.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, yeah, I mean it was it was a long

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<v Speaker 3>the people there had high hopes going in and sure

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<v Speaker 3>the way it was, They're coming off, you know, one

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<v Speaker 3>of their biggest wins in a while, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>home game got a lot ahead of them though, got

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<v Speaker 3>homecoming and on a family weekend and ASU, so there's

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<v Speaker 3>still a lot more to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't trust this team. I don't. I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't not. You know, I am a racing form guy.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at the past performances and doesn't give you

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<v Speaker 2>hope that they're going to do well. And they could

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<v Speaker 2>prove me wrong, of course, because you have upsets and

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff. But if they win this weekend, that

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<v Speaker 2>too won't shock me.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, right, I mean they're going up there. I assume

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<v Speaker 3>there is. I haven't even looked at the spread.

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<v Speaker 4>What for?

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<v Speaker 2>That's it? Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, yeah, so that's that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Fox Sports is going to be there with their right

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever they call their show, Big Big Big Noon

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<v Speaker 3>Kickoff or something.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting that they picked that game. Yeah, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're right. With all the other games going on, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>ESPN had control of the other ones. Yeah, because you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>This weekend's a huge weekend with Texas, Oklahoma, Oregon, State State. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's just a couple of them, Mississippi.

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<v Speaker 3>This was a weekend a lot of people have been

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<v Speaker 3>talking about coming, you know, into the season, like, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>look at the slate of game. So you know, Arizona

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<v Speaker 3>getting some good, good coverage. They'll be in on on

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<v Speaker 3>Fox all by themselves, not at eleven o'clock Eastern time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well pm, we'll see if it's let's see if it's

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<v Speaker 2>good coverage, because I don't know if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>see them, because if they don't show up, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say what's up with that? And then they did the

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<v Speaker 2>other night when they've been on Friday Night in ESPN.

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<v Speaker 2>This this team was right. They had the whole nation

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<v Speaker 2>nation watching that, right, right, and I think the whole

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<v Speaker 2>nation kind of turned away at the halftime a little

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<v Speaker 2>after halftime. Yeah, so we'll see. And I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to poop pull them all the time, but but after

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<v Speaker 2>performances like that, what else can we say? I mean, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what we do in this business. You kind

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<v Speaker 2>of evaluate, you know, the Monday morning quarterback, the Tuesday

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<v Speaker 2>morning quarterback or afternoon quarterback. What do you say? What

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<v Speaker 2>was what was good? What good came out of it? Loop?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Loop was was really good until who's that? Until

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<v Speaker 3>until well he missed one late and that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>I forget that would have put Arizona head by what five?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I can't remember. Exactly what the circumstance was. That

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<v Speaker 3>would have been a big one.

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<v Speaker 2>What the hell do I know? Couldn't even say Texas dead.

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<v Speaker 3>Just I mean, I was like flashing back to Dick

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<v Speaker 3>Tony all those Well he was great kickers.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, well yeah, plus but he was a master of

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<v Speaker 2>executive what we're talking about, go in, beat the team,

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<v Speaker 2>come back upset. You don't even know how we had

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<v Speaker 2>George mala Ulu on that and it happened a few times. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you covered it back then. That was, Yes, these unexplainable

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<v Speaker 2>losses and unexplainable wins.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well we all Arizona also had that, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>unbelievable defense too, going in those shores where you know

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<v Speaker 3>they they just weren't going to give up more than

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<v Speaker 3>you know, twenty points maybe, so the offense didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>That much right, and they didn't. They didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, George was good in those years. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying to remember. There was with the Bobby Waters mala

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<v Speaker 3>Ulu period, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think, but Bobby Waters will that's nineteen eighty seven, my

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<v Speaker 2>first year Bobby Waters road running veal Ulux trick Levy

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<v Speaker 2>came in right after him. Hockey he met, He mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>him Johnson, there's a lot of especially those early mid

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<v Speaker 2>nineties when they were you know, the desert's warm and

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<v Speaker 2>they played really well. Those are a long time. That's

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<v Speaker 2>thirty years ago, Son, and more than that, they're all

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<v Speaker 2>thirty about it, old man, and people still wish for

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<v Speaker 2>those days. Yeah, it's come like basketball, well never when well,

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<v Speaker 2>never when? Come on? And how many how old do

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<v Speaker 2>you have to be?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great place. And you're you're a pragmatic guy,

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<v Speaker 3>I went there everywhere, So this is the nextico because

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<v Speaker 3>So of the three hundred thousand lums, how many of

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<v Speaker 3>them contribute?

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's a good question.

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<v Speaker 3>It's probably I probably don't have that answer that I

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<v Speaker 2>But it's it's not a large number because I think

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<v Speaker 2>in the nonprofit genre or area, it's anywhere from twelve

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to say it might even be less.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's it's interesting. I don't I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and it's the same it's the same people.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's the case too, And so our job was

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<v Speaker 3>really to uncover new people. That that's really the part,

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<v Speaker 3>of the part of the game is finding people who

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<v Speaker 3>are interested in whom who have a passion for something

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<v Speaker 3>that the UFA is doing. And it's very surprising sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>when you start talking to someone you think, oh, this

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<v Speaker 3>guy was a you know, a history major.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's going to give to the history department.

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<v Speaker 3>Next thing you know, he's you know, he wants to

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<v Speaker 3>give to cancer or he wants to give to athletics.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was it was an interesting process. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Joe, Joe, Joe millionaire or one thousand thousand are

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<v Speaker 2>and I see my phone. Dave Silver's coming to town.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh damn it. Did you ever get did you ever

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<v Speaker 2>get some? God? I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have any more money to give day. Oh yes,

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<v Speaker 3>did you feet? Every excuse? Every you hear all the stories.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just part of the part.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the job. So so sorry, I can't meet with

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<v Speaker 2>you for dinner, right? Is that what I'm paying? And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm paying for it. But that's just how that's how

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<v Speaker 2>it works. You timeshare people. No, yeah, it's almost No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the fact that they we know that they're

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<v Speaker 3>interested in the school. They went to the school and graduated,

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<v Speaker 3>so we know there's some interest. So I'm not just

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<v Speaker 3>sure you don't just walk in as a total complete stranger.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they know you're but.

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<v Speaker 3>They want to They want to know and they understand.

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<v Speaker 3>People understand philanthropy.

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<v Speaker 2>You cut the tail end or the beginning of You

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<v Speaker 2>were at the tail end of the beginning of nil.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see that there was not a conflict but

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<v Speaker 2>an issue because now you're seen the money over here,

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<v Speaker 2>and then people are starting to go into that he's

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<v Speaker 2>got pockets.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah again, I wasn't really how do I put this

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<v Speaker 3>like day to day. I wasn't really concentrating on athletic money.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it sometimes would come in, but there were

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<v Speaker 3>a few donors every so often who would ask me,

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<v Speaker 3>who is this group that's contacted me. They're not are

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<v Speaker 3>they with the U of A or are they some organization?

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<v Speaker 3>So that question was popping up.

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<v Speaker 2>In the last year or so. There was an inter

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<v Speaker 2>twenty yeah whatever, that intermingling.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, you know, for people who have been

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<v Speaker 3>giving consistently to campus or to athletics or somewhere and

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, you know, is this the same

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<v Speaker 3>thing or is this different?

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<v Speaker 2>So there was some explanation that needs to be done. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to take a break. But last quick question.

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<v Speaker 2>Did it become territorial from like guys like you with

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<v Speaker 2>people like from the U Sports Athletic Department. No, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean know what I'm saying. Yeah, but it was.

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<v Speaker 3>If I'm well, I mean, if there's a donor that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to give to athletics, I need to work with

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<v Speaker 3>the athletics people.

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<v Speaker 2>My colleagues there, so we were all together on the

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<v Speaker 2>same boat.

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<v Speaker 3>But I would discover people they would alway say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>wait a second, this is a person who's been given

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<v Speaker 3>So they would call me because I was supporting journalism.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's kind of how it works.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we got to go take a Breakreen and get

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<v Speaker 2>back with our first guests. Rhino. Mister Ryan Hansen, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk basketball first and then in the second hour

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk to Lamont Tonney talking more football.

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<v Speaker 5>Breaking down all the epsys and ohs. This is Eye

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<v Speaker 5>on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to Ding the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and with me today

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<v Speaker 2>is Dave Silver, not Ryan at the control room. And

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<v Speaker 2>now we have Ryan Hanson, the aero Zona basketball men's

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<v Speaker 2>basketball radio analyst. How are you Ryan?

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<v Speaker 4>Good to hear from you, guys, Dave, How are you man?

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<v Speaker 2>Good?

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<v Speaker 4>How you doing good?

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<v Speaker 1>To chat?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I love talking Arizona basketball with Steve and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad you're joining the crew here we can chat

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<v Speaker 4>it up because it's getting close. Paul is not in

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<v Speaker 4>the air, boys, but yet I'm feeling basketball that's in

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<v Speaker 4>the air.

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<v Speaker 13>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>We hope that your voice, that voice of yours, is

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<v Speaker 2>not dry from the heat. But you should get ready

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<v Speaker 2>here in a couple of weeks. Right, I'm sure you're

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<v Speaker 2>like me. You've been around a long time and I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember. And sometimes they ask me, so, how's this

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona basketball team going to look? I can't remember if

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever said they're not going to be any good?

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Oh, there's no doubt. There's talent, right, there's experience,

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<v Speaker 4>there's talent. There's next level talent on this team. I

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<v Speaker 4>think they are going to be a very good team.

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<v Speaker 4>Can they be great? I mean, it's another year Steve

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<v Speaker 4>and Dave that we talk about. Okay, this team's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>win a lot of games, There's no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 4>With the conference change, they're probably lose more than they

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<v Speaker 4>have in the recent past, at least under Tommy Lloyd.

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<v Speaker 4>Based on the challenge of the schedule. That's okay. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's going to make them more battle tested for

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<v Speaker 4>the tournament. The question remains, how deep can this team go?

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<v Speaker 4>Are they built for a second weekend win versus a

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<v Speaker 4>second weekend loss that we saw last year and now

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<v Speaker 4>two times in the last three years. That those are

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<v Speaker 4>the questions that this team that's we love, right, It's

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<v Speaker 4>not a can this team make it to the tournament?

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's a no doubt in my mind this

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<v Speaker 4>is a tournament level team. Are they a second weekend

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<v Speaker 4>team that has what it takes when things are going

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<v Speaker 4>right to get to that ever elusive final four that

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<v Speaker 4>Tommy Lloyd wants that there's on a basketball fans are

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<v Speaker 4>so dying to have coming off of what now will

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<v Speaker 4>be twenty four years removed from their last final four, A.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot of new guys, a lot of guys coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>This is an interesting kind of a transition year that

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<v Speaker 3>you lose, you know, couple of guys who go to

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<v Speaker 3>the NBA, but then you still keep a kleb love.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think of the makeup? Just generally, say,

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<v Speaker 3>the top eight guys on this team, as you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>is this a team that can you know, get into

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<v Speaker 3>week number two of the tournaments?

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<v Speaker 4>I think the top eight is exceptionally good. You've got

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<v Speaker 4>three really good perimeter players, maybe the best defensive perimeter

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<v Speaker 4>Arizona has had in the years. When you look at

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<v Speaker 4>what Jaden Bradley and kJ Lewis do defensively, Kaled Love

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<v Speaker 4>has been an improved defender. He's got the physical tools

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<v Speaker 4>to be a very good defender. Does he have the

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<v Speaker 4>mental makeup That's the next level for him to be

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<v Speaker 4>an impactful defender. I think that length will be exceptional

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<v Speaker 4>and will cause other teams problems the interior. It's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be a difference. It's going to be a change.

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<v Speaker 4>Arizona is not used to, you know, playing basketball without

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<v Speaker 4>a new Marballo in the low block in a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of years. But does that create some different opportunities for

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<v Speaker 4>Arizona on both ends of the floor, primarily on the

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<v Speaker 4>defensive end. Can they be more versatile defensively versus what

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<v Speaker 4>you had with Umar Ballo where you had to defend

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<v Speaker 4>ball screens in the same way regardless of the personnel.

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<v Speaker 4>Because Umar couldn't hedge out, he couldn't play twenty five

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<v Speaker 4>and thirty feet from the basket. He was better suited

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<v Speaker 4>hanging in the lane area in what's called drop coverage. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>can you be more aggressive? Can you be more assertive defensively?

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<v Speaker 4>To change things up. I love those ideas. Now we'll

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<v Speaker 4>see if they can deploy that. But from a personnel standpoint, Dave,

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<v Speaker 4>I love the perimeter. I have some question marks though,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think one of the questions is when you

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<v Speaker 4>get past that eight man rotation, does Arizona have firepower

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<v Speaker 4>coming off of the bench on the perimeter? My take,

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<v Speaker 4>Steve probably agrees with this. Dave, you've watched Arizona and

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<v Speaker 4>you've watched college basketball going on. You know, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to date you, but I think you know you're

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<v Speaker 4>looking at what three to four decades full of college

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<v Speaker 4>basketball coverage. One thing remains means true guard play wins

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<v Speaker 4>in the tournament. You have to have playmakers. You have

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<v Speaker 4>to have players that can knock down shots, can get

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<v Speaker 4>to the rim, they can finish in traffic. And it

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<v Speaker 4>can't just be your starting two guys in the back

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<v Speaker 4>court unless they're Damon in Kalid. You know, you have

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<v Speaker 4>to have uber elite talent if you're only going to

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<v Speaker 4>rely on two or three guys. Does Arizona have firepower

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<v Speaker 4>coming off the bench. Can Carter Bryant give you perimeter

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<v Speaker 4>game early in his career. I think ultimately he's a

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<v Speaker 4>swing man. He's a three man in the NBA, But

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<v Speaker 4>can he give that to you in his first year?

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<v Speaker 4>You're going to have to have that level of talent

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<v Speaker 4>and an explosive offensive skills to get Arizona over that hump.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just kind of my sorry when I rambled a

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<v Speaker 4>lot there, but that's my two cents as of today.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thanks were running out of time here, Thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>joining us. No no, no, no, no, so Ry, let me

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<v Speaker 2>let me go break that down a little bit. So

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<v Speaker 2>I went to the Red Bue game, and I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much what you're thinking. So I'm watching and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>loving the backcourt with with Bradley and Love and kJ okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so and I agree with you, And I was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>write this story and I probably save it for later.

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<v Speaker 2>They kind of remind me of Khalid, Damon and Reggie, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you three guys, three headed monster. And then then I

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<v Speaker 2>can go back and you know Bibby Bibby Miles and Dickerson.

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<v Speaker 2>Dickerson's a lot like kJ. I think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Athletic can get get get a score if they want

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<v Speaker 2>to or if they have to. And I might be

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<v Speaker 2>stretching that thought, but those threes some and you talked

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<v Speaker 2>about that the best rereats some in a while, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're about right there where I'm at. I

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<v Speaker 2>like it a lot. Do they need the bench? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know to fit those three Maybe a guy who

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<v Speaker 2>fills in every now and again. But I remember this

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety eight, uh, and this these guys were good,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Miles and Bibby and Dickerson and j T

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<v Speaker 2>as the other guy, and this guy Majeris comes in.

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<v Speaker 2>I have something that I have something on my sleeve. Yea.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're thinking, I'm covering this and writing this all

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<v Speaker 2>year saying there's no way one guy foss, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>way another guy fass. You have a third guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>going to come help. If two guys fall, you have

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<v Speaker 2>a third get it's going to come around. Well, then

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<v Speaker 2>you have a Utah game. All the fell apart and

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<v Speaker 2>then you were screwed. So if that happens, Arizona screwed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and that can happen, right, that might be one

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<v Speaker 4>in a million, maybe not a million, but one in

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<v Speaker 4>a thousand that that actually happens on any given night

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<v Speaker 4>that you have four NBA perimeter players all go cold

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<v Speaker 4>in the same day in the same game against a

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<v Speaker 4>crazy triangle in two. But I just feel like you

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<v Speaker 4>can never have enough firepower at the guard spot right

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<v Speaker 4>for a deep run in the tournament, and some of

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<v Speaker 4>the question marks that it remains to be seen. But boy,

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<v Speaker 4>I liked what I saw in the Red Blue out

599
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<v Speaker 4>of Anthony del Orso. I like his shooting stroke. The question, Steve,

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<v Speaker 4>you and I have had this conversation, probably more so

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<v Speaker 4>off the air than on, but let's have it on

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<v Speaker 4>the air. Will Tommy Lloyd play a shooter that's got

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<v Speaker 4>sized but not necessarily the athletic ability of a kJ

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<v Speaker 4>Lewis at the three spot? Will he get the time

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<v Speaker 4>that Paulius Morowskis didn't get? Will he get the time

606
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<v Speaker 4>that Philip Boribech didn't get? You know, is del Orso

607
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<v Speaker 4>closer to Pella Larsen or is he closer to Paulius

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<v Speaker 4>Morowskis or somewhere in between? And my I've watched practice

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<v Speaker 4>a handful of times with the new guys. I haven't

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I saw the Red Blue game. Sit It's

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<v Speaker 4>it's not like the sample size is big enough for

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<v Speaker 4>us to make definitive statements. Here, but there is a

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<v Speaker 4>drop off in defensive ability from kJ Lewis to Anthony Delarso.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that, I think is a statement most people would

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<v Speaker 4>agree with. And it's not, you know, I'm not blowing

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<v Speaker 4>up del Orso's game, But will Tommy give del Orso

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<v Speaker 4>the necessary minutes and the opportunity to span himself and

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<v Speaker 4>be good enough defensively to not be a liability because

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<v Speaker 4>it appears offensively he could be that potential game changer

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<v Speaker 4>that could come in and just stretch the floor, knock

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<v Speaker 4>down shots, create an opportunity where Caleb Love now gets

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<v Speaker 4>better looks because you can't come off of del Orso.

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<v Speaker 4>He's going to knock down a shot. So does that

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<v Speaker 4>create opening looks for other players? Does that give tobeya

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<v Speaker 4>Waka an opportunity in the low block to be more

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<v Speaker 4>effective because the defense has to account for a three

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<v Speaker 4>point shooter? Or is Tommy so concerned about the defense

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<v Speaker 4>that you give up by not having your best defenders

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<v Speaker 4>on the floor that he doesn't give del Orso enough

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<v Speaker 4>time to develop. Just Trey Townsend, is he not as

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<v Speaker 4>effective because he's not Keyshad Johnson defensively? But guess what

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<v Speaker 4>he's also not keyshad Johnson Offensively, He's going to give

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<v Speaker 4>you a lot more potentially and more at least variable offense,

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<v Speaker 4>more and more things offensively, least on paper than what

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<v Speaker 4>I think we saw Key shot for the better part

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<v Speaker 4>of his one year at Arizona. So these parts are

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<v Speaker 4>really interesting to me that Tommy's got to maybe look

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<v Speaker 4>at things a little differently based on the personnel that

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<v Speaker 4>he put together.

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<v Speaker 2>Just before you ask this question, I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>make a comment. You and I have spent too much

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<v Speaker 2>time together, because exactly what you're saying is as exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what I've been thinking, especially with the the Orso and

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<v Speaker 2>the guys who left because they didn't get enough time

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy will see you later, thanks.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and didn't develop to be able to be relied

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<v Speaker 4>upon you insignificant minutes in the postseason, so they didn't

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<v Speaker 4>get those chances. I think del Orso might be in

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<v Speaker 4>a different position because of his experience in the college game,

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<v Speaker 4>where the guys I'm looking to are international players that

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<v Speaker 4>were freshmen or sophomore in Philip or Beach in his case,

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<v Speaker 4>didn't get that opportunity. Well, del Orso, He's at least

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<v Speaker 4>played him high level college athletes and has had to

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<v Speaker 4>figure out defensively how he can make it work with

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<v Speaker 4>a you know, I don't want to say he's limited athletically,

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<v Speaker 4>He's not. He's a good athlete. He's just not kJ

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<v Speaker 4>Lewis and who is at this point. I mean we're

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<v Speaker 4>comparing him to you know, maybe the best athlete on

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<v Speaker 4>the floor for Arison, A best defender perimeter wise, you

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<v Speaker 4>know he is. He's up there with Dylan Terry. He's

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<v Speaker 4>an incredible perimeter defender. So no knock on del Orso

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<v Speaker 4>because of that. But we'll see how Tommy allows del

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<v Speaker 4>Orso to impact the game. I think he could be

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<v Speaker 4>an impact.

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<v Speaker 3>Player though you know they lose bollow and then they

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<v Speaker 3>also return, you know, Crevis and who knows about Henry

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<v Speaker 3>this year? What do you what about the big guys?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you think will they will fare? You know

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<v Speaker 3>in the in the low post? Is there going to

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<v Speaker 3>be Are they good enough defensively? Are they good enough

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<v Speaker 3>offensively to compete?

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<v Speaker 4>Good questions, Dave, because when I look offensively, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit different. You know, on the air last year

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<v Speaker 4>I said Mr Bollo did his work early, Motias Crevis

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<v Speaker 4>did his work late and What I mean by that is,

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<v Speaker 4>if umar Bollo could bury you in the post, he

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<v Speaker 4>would get one foot from the rim, it was over.

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<v Speaker 4>But if he was off the block, you really didn't

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<v Speaker 4>want him having to make multiple moves to score. Where

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<v Speaker 4>Crevis does his work late after he catches it. He's

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<v Speaker 4>so skilled, he's got better footwork. He's got moves off

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<v Speaker 4>the low block off of either hand, so you can

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<v Speaker 4>throw it in the low block on either side and

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<v Speaker 4>feel confident with his back to the basket. He's going

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<v Speaker 4>to make a great move. He's just not an above

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<v Speaker 4>the rim guy, so he's going to have to be

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<v Speaker 4>able to finish with athletes on the offensive ent. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that to me's probably a wash. You lose a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit with Bollow's ability to bury you, but you

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<v Speaker 4>gain a little bit more like late clock. Throw it

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<v Speaker 4>in the low block to Crevus and let him work.

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<v Speaker 4>He's going to require double teams in the low block

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<v Speaker 4>if he's off the block, where with Ballow they just

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<v Speaker 4>let him operate off the block defensively. Let's shift defensively.

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<v Speaker 4>Ariz gonna lose his rim protection, There's no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 4>With follow they lose rim protection with Keisha Johnson. So

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to have to defensively do some things a

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<v Speaker 4>little differently in the low block. I believe from my seat.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not the head coach, but I think they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to have to be a little more creative with how

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<v Speaker 4>they defend in and around the rim. Henry Vasar, how

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<v Speaker 4>he contributes. Does Emanuel Steven get time because of his

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<v Speaker 4>ability to defend the rim? I think I think he

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<v Speaker 4>could be an X factor, Dave. If I look at

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<v Speaker 4>this roster in the makeup, Emmanuel Stephen could be a

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<v Speaker 4>rim protector. He could be a rim runner for you

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<v Speaker 4>on pack and roll opportunities. He's going to run the

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<v Speaker 4>floor as well as any of the bigs. And you

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<v Speaker 4>don't need him to score when you have Jaden and

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<v Speaker 4>Caleb and kJ and let's just throw Trey Talonsen in there.

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<v Speaker 4>That's enough offense that he could be the fifth option offensively,

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<v Speaker 4>but he could be a difference maker sensibly.

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<v Speaker 2>So how he.

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<v Speaker 4>Develops could become an interesting player. You know, at this stage, Steve,

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<v Speaker 4>it's unfair for us to say this guy's the X factor.

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<v Speaker 4>If this guy plays well, Arizona's going to make a

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<v Speaker 4>run because there's too many guys right now that we

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<v Speaker 4>don't know enough about, and I've thrown out all the names.

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<v Speaker 4>If Carter Bryant has an incredible freshman year, he could

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<v Speaker 4>be the X factor. If Anthony del Orso has an

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<v Speaker 4>incredible year because he gets time and he's knocking down three,

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<v Speaker 4>that's an X factor Arizona that hasn't had. But because

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<v Speaker 4>of the makeup of the post players. If Emmanuel Steven

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<v Speaker 4>has a year that we didn't anticipate, or Henry Bassar

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<v Speaker 4>can show us what he was supposed to be when

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<v Speaker 4>he was recruited. Now you have a stretch four that's

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<v Speaker 4>seven feet tall knocking down jump shots. Oh I kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like that in a different rotation. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of good questions, right These aren't like concerning questions. I

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<v Speaker 4>think they're exciting questions that will learn in time.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, one last question got about a minute the

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<v Speaker 2>right So the three some in the back, that's my

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<v Speaker 2>biggest not concerned the best story I think right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me ask you, is this team better than

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<v Speaker 2>last year? Is this team better than two years ago?

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<v Speaker 2>And is this team better than the first year? I

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<v Speaker 2>have my thoughts because, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Your question is is this Tommy Lloyd's best team, I

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<v Speaker 4>guess is what you're saying, maybe in a nutshell this

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<v Speaker 4>is a cop out to say it's too early to tell.

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<v Speaker 4>The challenge is is you have you have an e

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<v Speaker 4>merging NBA All Star on Tommy's first team and Ben Mathren?

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<v Speaker 4>Who do we have a Ben Mathron? And Caleb Love

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<v Speaker 4>could be the big shot maker. So I do think

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<v Speaker 4>you've got a guy like that who hopefully will be

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<v Speaker 4>even more efficient this year than he was last year,

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<v Speaker 4>which he was an improved efficient offensive player. Defensively, I

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<v Speaker 4>think this could be a terror defensively from a team

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<v Speaker 4>you don't have to cover up a kerk Present and

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<v Speaker 4>what he gave you offense was wonderful, but what he

751
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<v Speaker 4>lacked defensively you don't have to cover him up. With

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<v Speaker 4>these three perimeter players. That's a big lag up as

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<v Speaker 4>far as I'm concerned, I think potentially you have more

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<v Speaker 4>versatility in the post than you had with Umar Balo.

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<v Speaker 4>If Motias Kratus can be healthy and give you what

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<v Speaker 4>you would expect out of him, I think the complimentary

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<v Speaker 4>post players could be more impactful than what we've had

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<v Speaker 4>in the recent past. So the ceiling of this team

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<v Speaker 4>could be Tommy's best team. It would be my take

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<v Speaker 4>at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thanks Reno as always, appreciate you. That's a grace.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it.

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<v Speaker 4>Here we go. It's October May. Time for some moves.

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<v Speaker 2>Get that voice rested. Who are ready for you? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you? Madie Here, guys, thanks, let's take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just a slight little bit over. But that was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>That was good. Thank you. If you're an Arizona men's

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to Why on the Ball. Here at

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<v Speaker 2>I am to somebody else, I know who you are.

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<v Speaker 2>And we got Ryan at the booth. Uh, just real quick,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is a I know what people ask me,

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<v Speaker 2>how you're doing busy as all hell because there's sports

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<v Speaker 2>like everywhere coming out. You know, you have the men's

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<v Speaker 2>going on, high school sports. This was probably the the

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<v Speaker 2>hectic time of year for you when you were back

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<v Speaker 3>How about last night if you were a sportscaster in

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<v Speaker 3>Kansas City, the Royals and the chiefsports at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>But those are nights that didn't happen too often here.

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<v Speaker 3>But occasionally there was a football basketball situation on the

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838
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<v Speaker 3>the Bowl.

839
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Game was in Las Vegas later. Yeah, that was a fun,

840
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:11.119
<v Speaker 2>fun day.

841
00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:13.920
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, in professional sports, I guess it just depends

842
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:18.679
<v Speaker 3>on what's going on. And with baseball playoffs rolling along

843
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:21.079
<v Speaker 3>with the Royals kind of being a new or I

844
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.119
<v Speaker 3>guess not new, but back in the playoffs for the

845
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:25.119
<v Speaker 3>first time in a while, right, And of course the

846
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:28.079
<v Speaker 3>Chiefs are a marquee game, so I'm sure the Chiefs

847
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:29.559
<v Speaker 3>wiped him out in the ratings.

848
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Football does that, right, But right, well, don't forget about

849
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:36.920
<v Speaker 2>missus Swift or miss Swift. She was she was there.

850
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:38.960
<v Speaker 2>She was there and you know, and her Man had

851
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:40.840
<v Speaker 2>a big game. So did he did he? I didn't

852
00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:41.960
<v Speaker 2>watch that closely, did he?

853
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, if you catch I hate to say, I know

854
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:45.280
<v Speaker 3>in the first half he did.

855
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:48.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. The guys in the in the office

856
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:51.039
<v Speaker 2>here he said, I think the over under was fifty

857
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:53.119
<v Speaker 2>eight yards. Oh he had to have more than that,

858
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:55.159
<v Speaker 2>did he? Oh? So he was over because he hadn't

859
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:56.760
<v Speaker 2>played well or da hadn't thrown to the ball that

860
00:40:56.840 --> 00:41:00.360
<v Speaker 2>much to this point, because they're saying, what's one, what's up?

861
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:02.679
<v Speaker 2>I think he had like eight catches in the first half, really,

862
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:05.760
<v Speaker 2>so he was Were they for what like twenty yards? Yeah?

863
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.039
<v Speaker 2>So we'll see. But they're one of the better teams.

864
00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:10.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're gonna win it all though, But

865
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:12.760
<v Speaker 2>let me tell you to last weekend. Don't believe anything

866
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:13.239
<v Speaker 2>I say.

867
00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:17.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm in one of these survival pools, you know,

868
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:18.760
<v Speaker 3>And you get three strikes.

869
00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:21.119
<v Speaker 2>I was out in week four. I was gonna say,

870
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:24.239
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, you either are dead or you're

871
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:27.960
<v Speaker 2>barely surviving. Yeah, because that second week was disaster.

872
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:31.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and last week this past week was bad too,

873
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:35.360
<v Speaker 3>with the Giants winning in Seattle. That was a big

874
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:37.800
<v Speaker 3>shocker that wiped out half our league again.

875
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:39.920
<v Speaker 2>So right, so how many did you start with?

876
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:43.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh, man, we're I think we have somewhere around maybe

877
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:46.199
<v Speaker 3>seventy five. Okay, it's a big league. So now that

878
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:48.400
<v Speaker 3>one weekend was just carnage.

879
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:51.440
<v Speaker 2>I joined one four years ago. I loved the Bills

880
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:52.840
<v Speaker 2>at that time. They lost their first game or so,

881
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:55.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm never gonna get it one again. But there's a

882
00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:56.760
<v Speaker 2>friend of mine has one for like one hundred and

883
00:41:56.760 --> 00:41:59.599
<v Speaker 2>fifty six people. By the second week it only had

884
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:00.480
<v Speaker 2>like twenty.

885
00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:04.000
<v Speaker 3>It goes fast, I mean there are I mean literally,

886
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:06.559
<v Speaker 3>because everyone's kind of picking the same teams that, oh yeah,

887
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:08.000
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be guaranteed.

888
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:09.719
<v Speaker 2>To go to them, spread line all ten points and

889
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:11.480
<v Speaker 2>that's the team. Yeah. So I'm actually in two, so

890
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:12.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm still alive in one of them.

891
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:18.480
<v Speaker 3>So I picked the suddenly wonderfully successful Washington Commanders who

892
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:20.199
<v Speaker 3>have kind of come out of nowhere. So I had

893
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:23.360
<v Speaker 3>them this past week and Jade and Daniels having quite

894
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:26.840
<v Speaker 3>the rookie season. I don't think anybody really saw that coming.

895
00:42:26.840 --> 00:42:29.199
<v Speaker 3>Although I mean, you know, Heisman Trophy winners, I guess

896
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 3>you're good. And Washington has not been good.

897
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:34.800
<v Speaker 2>For how many years? Oh yeah, forever? At least the

898
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Redskins forever. You know, well, I think even more so

899
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:41.000
<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys, you know, because the Cowboys and Indians or

900
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:44.559
<v Speaker 2>the you know, the Redskins were that team, those two rivalries,

901
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:47.920
<v Speaker 2>and back in the day, they were fantastic. Yeah. Now

902
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:50.320
<v Speaker 2>both haven't been good in the London, right, you know.

903
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean this quarterback's good, and you know, other

904
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:56.639
<v Speaker 3>team's been pretty inconsistent. Philadelphia has been a little inconsistent.

905
00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:59.199
<v Speaker 3>And the Giants, who knows, the surprise they get a

906
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:03.880
<v Speaker 3>win in Seattle, so that that division's uh, you know,

907
00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:06.400
<v Speaker 3>kind of up for grabs, as is the West.

908
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

909
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:09.480
<v Speaker 3>With the Cardinals winning a game on the road in

910
00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:12.159
<v Speaker 3>Santa Clara was pretty pretty crazy.

911
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:16.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't believe they lost that game. The forty

912
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:18.920
<v Speaker 2>nine ers they were driving. I went to somewhere some

913
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:23.400
<v Speaker 2>event that the four almost three three thirty and they

914
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:25.599
<v Speaker 2>were driving to score and put the game away. And

915
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:27.559
<v Speaker 2>I got to my place and they had already fumbled

916
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:30.119
<v Speaker 2>and Arizona I had taken the lead. Yeah, I'm thinking

917
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:32.199
<v Speaker 2>what did I do? What did I Where did I leave?

918
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:34.039
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't listen to on the radio because I

919
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:38.280
<v Speaker 2>said it's over. Well it wasn't over, man, Yeah, crazy,

920
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:40.079
<v Speaker 2>that's crazy.

921
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:43.239
<v Speaker 3>Kelsey had nine catches, Travis nine catches, seventy yards.

922
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:44.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh so he made it. He made it?

923
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:44.920
<v Speaker 12>What was he?

924
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:46.800
<v Speaker 2>What was he? Fifty eight? I think? Okay, so we

925
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:51.199
<v Speaker 2>got over that. Okay. So I just reminded. Oh, I

926
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:53.360
<v Speaker 2>have to remind myself though. I have to put some

927
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:59.599
<v Speaker 2>stuff on the board for the trip to to Del Soul.

928
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:03.719
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be there on Thursday. Uh So go visit

929
00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:05.840
<v Speaker 2>us if you can three to five. Uh Jay and

930
00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:08.039
<v Speaker 2>I we're gonna make our picks there and we're gonna

931
00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:11.320
<v Speaker 2>bs what we do? You know about these things that

932
00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:14.239
<v Speaker 2>are going on? Maybe some have some on air guests live,

933
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:17.039
<v Speaker 2>So go visit us. There's a lot of things to

934
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:18.840
<v Speaker 2>do down there. Where are you gonna be set up?

935
00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:21.159
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be in the sports bar. So once you

936
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:22.920
<v Speaker 2>walk into the sports bar, take a rite and you

937
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:25.840
<v Speaker 2>will be right there canvas us. It should be a

938
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:26.280
<v Speaker 2>lot of fun.

939
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Hey, you guys will be on. There's got to be

940
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:31.320
<v Speaker 3>what the Thursday night game is.

941
00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's why we're doing it just right before

942
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:35.760
<v Speaker 2>the Thursday night games to kind of promote what they're doing.

943
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:38.880
<v Speaker 2>So we'll see what happens. Let me give a couple

944
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:41.239
<v Speaker 2>of shout outs to the Casino Del Soul people from this.

945
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:43.599
<v Speaker 2>From the moment you first walk into Casino del Soul,

946
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:45.800
<v Speaker 2>you'll greet it. You'll be greeted by a diverse and

947
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:49.280
<v Speaker 2>robust selection of restaurants that cater to any craving you

948
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:53.320
<v Speaker 2>may have. From award winning Py Steakhouse in the laid

949
00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:56.199
<v Speaker 2>Back Diner of Mobis and the and the laid Back

950
00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Dinner of movies. Discover the latest, the latest taste of

951
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:02.440
<v Speaker 2>see how Dell sold during your next visit. A lot

952
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:06.199
<v Speaker 2>of good food there you you've been there a few times. Pizza, steaks,

953
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Umoe Umi.

954
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:12.719
<v Speaker 3>Umi uomy, but definitely Moby's. Spend a Mobey's. Yeah, big

955
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.920
<v Speaker 3>fan of that place. Yeah, Belitas, A lot of good

956
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:18.920
<v Speaker 3>places to eat. They have the cosmic Bingo Bingo on

957
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Friday the Spa. Moby says, seasonal selections for a lot

958
00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:28.280
<v Speaker 3>of different tastes and varieties of food. So we'll be

959
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:31.880
<v Speaker 3>there on Thursday. We'll be there once a month. Actually

960
00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:33.519
<v Speaker 3>this month will be there twice because we didn't go

961
00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:36.519
<v Speaker 3>in September. We had been looking forward to this and

962
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:39.000
<v Speaker 3>then Jay comes back for this. You know, of course

963
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:39.639
<v Speaker 3>she's not his.

964
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:42.199
<v Speaker 2>Return to because the casino. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so

965
00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:44.880
<v Speaker 2>this he's he can't wait. We've been talking about it today.

966
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:47.199
<v Speaker 2>So I hope to see you there. Probably making another

967
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:49.159
<v Speaker 2>announcement on the other side of the hour if you

968
00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:52.159
<v Speaker 2>got h We've got about six seven minutes, right, Yeah,

969
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:54.280
<v Speaker 2>take some calls if you want to give us a call.

970
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Five two oh four one, six seventy four forty talk

971
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:03.320
<v Speaker 2>about hoops, talk about football, whatever you decide. I did

972
00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:04.960
<v Speaker 2>a story for a biz twus son It just came

973
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.920
<v Speaker 2>out here on Snoop Dogg. We'll talk about that. But

974
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:10.519
<v Speaker 2>also did a story on the new media rights thing.

975
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:14.199
<v Speaker 2>You were aware of what you know exactly what's going

976
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:15.960
<v Speaker 2>on there. Probably a little bit. We should have talked

977
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:18.800
<v Speaker 2>to Ryan about that. Oh yeah, yeah, but he's kind

978
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:22.079
<v Speaker 2>of he's yeah, he's okay, and he's not really involved

979
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:24.239
<v Speaker 2>in the behind the scenes stuff, and there was a

980
00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:26.079
<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff going on behind the scenes. Yeah.

981
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:29.440
<v Speaker 3>I never was really really either myself. I mean we

982
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:31.719
<v Speaker 3>were when I was in the media, we were totally

983
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:33.599
<v Speaker 3>separate from the u of A. When it came to that,

984
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:34.920
<v Speaker 3>they kind of did their own thing.

985
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:38.360
<v Speaker 2>But what's oh went back in the mid eighties, well.

986
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:40.440
<v Speaker 3>No, even even later, I mean there were there was

987
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:43.119
<v Speaker 3>always some you know, an independent group kind of inside

988
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:45.280
<v Speaker 3>athletics handling the media.

989
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Media.

990
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:50.519
<v Speaker 3>Wait, there was what was it IMG like that, Yeah,

991
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:53.280
<v Speaker 3>which was really separate from the local stations. You know,

992
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:55.880
<v Speaker 3>there wasn't even much and they still were. They still were, Yeah,

993
00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:59.039
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know. So with this now, what do

994
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:01.159
<v Speaker 3>they call themselves? There is an sports or properties right,

995
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:02.440
<v Speaker 3>and they're betting on themselves.

996
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:05.199
<v Speaker 2>They thinking that they can raise just as much money

997
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:08.880
<v Speaker 2>as the previous regime and just do it better locally,

998
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:11.400
<v Speaker 2>because I think they realized that eighty four or eighty

999
00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:13.840
<v Speaker 2>five percent of the money was coming from inside the

1000
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:17.960
<v Speaker 2>house locally, and they can go after more possibly and

1001
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:19.679
<v Speaker 2>they can make a lot more money down the road

1002
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:22.519
<v Speaker 2>rather than having a middleman. Yeah, take some of it.

1003
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:24.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's gonna be interesting.

1004
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:26.639
<v Speaker 3>I mean because so many of the universities around the

1005
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:28.880
<v Speaker 3>country are tied into like lear Field or one of

1006
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:31.960
<v Speaker 3>those right people, and so Arizona was for a long time, right,

1007
00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:33.239
<v Speaker 3>so this is going to be something new.

1008
00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, the one thing, the one thing that desire has

1009
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:41.639
<v Speaker 2>come in and she's made some changes. And I'm not

1010
00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:44.360
<v Speaker 2>going to alb alibi her or whatever. But if Dave

1011
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Silver took the job as a D, Steve Rivera took

1012
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:49.239
<v Speaker 2>the job as a D, guess what you'd have to do.

1013
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Their deficit is fantastically huge. Yeah, there's people that have

1014
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:57.159
<v Speaker 2>been here for a while. What do you have to

1015
00:47:57.159 --> 00:48:00.159
<v Speaker 2>do but make changes? Honestly, it's it's sad. I mean

1016
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:00.679
<v Speaker 2>it really is.

1017
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Sure we know those people, that's for sure. Got to

1018
00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:05.239
<v Speaker 3>give her some credit though. I mean, I was at

1019
00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:09.199
<v Speaker 3>the game on on Saturday. It was warm and I

1020
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:11.480
<v Speaker 3>think it was military nights, so there was a number

1021
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:14.800
<v Speaker 3>of military uh people being presented on the field, and

1022
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:17.000
<v Speaker 3>she was down there almost the entire first half. Here

1023
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:18.760
<v Speaker 3>she is again with you know so and so from

1024
00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:21.360
<v Speaker 3>Davis Mont and she's she's out there and she's you know,

1025
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:23.159
<v Speaker 3>in the public eye and she has to be.

1026
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:25.880
<v Speaker 2>She's gonna she has to make friends. Yeah, and you

1027
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:29.239
<v Speaker 2>you've been around a long time. This town almost requires it.

1028
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:32.440
<v Speaker 2>You have to, you know, shake hands. His babies out there,

1029
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:36.079
<v Speaker 2>and not just for eighties, I mean football coaches, basketball coaches.

1030
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:40.119
<v Speaker 2>One of Shawn's biggest demises or bad decisions was not

1031
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:42.599
<v Speaker 2>being out there. He was not a thatch. Feel the

1032
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:44.159
<v Speaker 2>guy didn't get close to people.

1033
00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:46.639
<v Speaker 3>No, I mean you could see that from the very beginning.

1034
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:49.960
<v Speaker 3>And that was a big difference between you know, his

1035
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:52.440
<v Speaker 3>personality and Loot's. Lout was a master of that when

1036
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:55.440
<v Speaker 3>he came in. You know, really for years and years

1037
00:48:55.480 --> 00:49:00.400
<v Speaker 3>he was at his golf tournaments or Mistern's place and

1038
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:01.239
<v Speaker 3>doing commercials.

1039
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:04.400
<v Speaker 2>He was out there. Did you were you still around

1040
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:07.800
<v Speaker 2>with Sean like maybe two years, three years? Years? Yeah,

1041
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:09.920
<v Speaker 2>a couple of years. Yeah, just very different how his

1042
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:13.039
<v Speaker 2>approach was because he was not that you know, warm

1043
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.599
<v Speaker 2>and fuzzy guy. I wrote that a few times. Uh,

1044
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:18.559
<v Speaker 2>and and now you know someone was not either. We

1045
00:49:18.599 --> 00:49:21.559
<v Speaker 2>see how well that lasted. And now there's some thoughts

1046
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:23.679
<v Speaker 2>that maybe Brennan is not that guy either. I've been

1047
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:26.239
<v Speaker 2>talking Touchyphelia and going out and doing some I've seen

1048
00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:28.480
<v Speaker 2>some stuff on the internet. So he's a good guy.

1049
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:31.079
<v Speaker 2>You could tell he's a good guy, very forth right,

1050
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:33.840
<v Speaker 2>little little kind of by the book and what he says. Man.

1051
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:37.639
<v Speaker 2>But but he's I guess he's not out there like

1052
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:39.719
<v Speaker 2>many people think he should be.

1053
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, you wonder what is going on behind the

1054
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:44.880
<v Speaker 3>scenes and who's telling him you know, hey, you know,

1055
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:48.320
<v Speaker 3>don't don't put yourself out there just yet, or maybe

1056
00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:51.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, win have a have a winning season where

1057
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:53.199
<v Speaker 3>the fans, you know, have to kind of back you,

1058
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:55.320
<v Speaker 3>and then you can, you know, go out there and

1059
00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:57.599
<v Speaker 3>set up things. But I mean that was one of

1060
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:00.559
<v Speaker 3>the maybe it's just the day and age, but when

1061
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:02.800
<v Speaker 3>Luke was doing that, I mean he was getting involved

1062
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:06.280
<v Speaker 3>in so many different different charities and different moments where

1063
00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:08.440
<v Speaker 3>he would just and then later in life for him,

1064
00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:10.320
<v Speaker 3>he would be an ambassador for the U of A

1065
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:12.159
<v Speaker 3>looking for the foundation, right, he.

1066
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Had an office in there on Cherry and and.

1067
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:16.159
<v Speaker 3>We'd go, hey, Luke, you know we're gonna do something

1068
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:17.719
<v Speaker 3>in San Francisco, do you want to come up. I mean,

1069
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:19.840
<v Speaker 3>he would get on a plane and he would be

1070
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:22.320
<v Speaker 3>in a situation where he could shake hands and people

1071
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:22.880
<v Speaker 3>love to say.

1072
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<v Speaker 2>H yeah, he was totally. He was totally And obviously

1073
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<v Speaker 2>I have had a friendship with him after covering him,

1074
00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:30.519
<v Speaker 2>and you probably did too. But he was not the

1075
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:33.519
<v Speaker 2>same dude you covered, you know, and the players, and

1076
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:35.679
<v Speaker 2>I wrote that in my book he was once you

1077
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:38.440
<v Speaker 2>left the program as a player, you could kind of

1078
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:42.000
<v Speaker 2>he was different. He would embrace you, he would bs

1079
00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:44.199
<v Speaker 2>with you, he would you know, tell you stories.

1080
00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:47.360
<v Speaker 3>Not that he wouldn't do it before, but not like this. Yeah,

1081
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:49.280
<v Speaker 3>and he was pretty you know, he's perfect for Tucson too.

1082
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<v Speaker 3>At the time when he came here, and you know,

1083
00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:53.440
<v Speaker 3>the program had been you know, down and out for

1084
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:55.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, a handful of years before he got here,

1085
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:58.760
<v Speaker 3>and just you know, the timing was impeccable how that

1086
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:02.599
<v Speaker 3>all played out, and you know, the success came early

1087
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:05.400
<v Speaker 3>and never stopped and he just built his.

1088
00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Culture, right. I don't know if deep down I never

1089
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:11.000
<v Speaker 2>asked him this, which I should have in some of

1090
00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:13.880
<v Speaker 2>my books, was that he if he did that because

1091
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:16.760
<v Speaker 2>he was not a he was not a outgoing guy too,

1092
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:19.079
<v Speaker 2>he wouldn't you know, he would do them. And I

1093
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:20.840
<v Speaker 2>think he meant it when he did it. But did

1094
00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:24.599
<v Speaker 2>he do it because the fans were great to him early,

1095
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:26.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, because he'd go out and say you better

1096
00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:29.079
<v Speaker 2>get your tickets now, or you're gonna miss out or whatever,

1097
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:32.840
<v Speaker 2>and maybe his thanks to them to say, I appreciate

1098
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:36.000
<v Speaker 2>you helping me out at the beginning. That's maybe me

1099
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:37.840
<v Speaker 2>thinking too much as possible.

1100
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:40.519
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, there were those years early on

1101
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:42.559
<v Speaker 3>too where he had chances to leave and he just

1102
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:45.000
<v Speaker 3>kind of looked at the thing, the situation here and

1103
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:48.519
<v Speaker 3>the fan base and the potential of Kentucky's stories in

1104
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:51.639
<v Speaker 3>those years, and he just he turned his back on

1105
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:53.559
<v Speaker 3>Kentucky and and stayed right.

1106
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:55.639
<v Speaker 2>One of the reasons, at least the first time, was

1107
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:59.079
<v Speaker 2>because Kentucky turned the back on Bobby didn't include her,

1108
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:02.880
<v Speaker 2>and you know, the interviews or or whatever. I mean,

1109
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:05.719
<v Speaker 2>they kept her kind of afar and when they brought

1110
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:07.639
<v Speaker 2>him into the interview, and that was a no, no,

1111
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:09.599
<v Speaker 2>ye back in I think it's eighty nine or whatever,

1112
00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:11.960
<v Speaker 2>aything like that. Yeah, And then the second time was saying,

1113
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:13.880
<v Speaker 2>you know the pop up, you're not gonna leave, are you?

1114
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:17.360
<v Speaker 2>With the young grand grand kids? Yes, you know you're

1115
00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:19.360
<v Speaker 2>not gonna leave us, are you? And how are you

1116
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:22.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna not arena leave? After that, you know, you have grandkids. Yeah, yeah,

1117
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Dave don't go, but Dave don't go Teddy Bear. So yeah,

1118
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean that was again, it was just.

1119
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:33.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you've you've dissected it in a number of

1120
00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:36.079
<v Speaker 3>books already, just how perfect it all kind of worked out,

1121
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:40.159
<v Speaker 3>timing wise, and just continue to build already we.

1122
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Got to go all those players, all right, Brian, what

1123
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:43.440
<v Speaker 2>are you doing to me? I was gonna come up

1124
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:45.440
<v Speaker 2>with a story here. We gotta go, We gotta breaking

1125
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:46.440
<v Speaker 2>news on the other side.
