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<v Speaker 4>And welcome to this week's edition of Where Did the

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<v Speaker 4>Road Go. Tonight's show is pre recorded, so the chatroom

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<v Speaker 4>won't be active if you'd ask questions in. This is

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<v Speaker 4>as we do. Tonight, we're going to be talking with

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<v Speaker 4>Scott Crichton and about his book The Secret Chamber of Osiris,

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<v Speaker 4>Lost Knowledge of the Sixteen Pyramids, and just real briefly.

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<v Speaker 4>Next week we're going to have Mike Clelland and Aaron

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<v Speaker 4>Gullias back so we can continue our discussion on the

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<v Speaker 4>history of the UFO phenomena. The week after that, I

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<v Speaker 4>have Lard Scranton coming on, and beyond that, I know

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<v Speaker 4>to air yet. I have Maria Weekly coming up again

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<v Speaker 4>and some other fun stuff in the works. So, without

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<v Speaker 4>any further ado, here's my interview with Scott Crichton.

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<v Speaker 5>So welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 6>Scott, Hello, Sarayah, it's good to be here. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 6>inviting me.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you have two books out right.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, my first book was out December twenty twelve. That's

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<v Speaker 6>The Geezer Prophecy, and my most recent book came out

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<v Speaker 6>on Christmas Day and last year, twenty fourteen. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>that's two books.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm now working on my third, which has been accepted

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<v Speaker 6>for publication by my publisher Bearing Company and a Tradition's

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<v Speaker 6>Bearing Company, So that's all.

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<v Speaker 4>Good, awesome. Yeah, I really love that book company. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>they put out so much great stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely. I mean, I'm looking at my bookshelf just now

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<v Speaker 6>and the number of titles that I've got here from

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<v Speaker 6>Inner Tradition's burn course, it's quite remarkable.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, me too. And the new book is called The

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<v Speaker 4>Secret Chamber of Osiris, Lost Knowledge of the Sixteen Pyramids.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the one, yep.

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<v Speaker 4>And this one kind of had a lot of stuffn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know anything about, which is always a good thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And I want to tell people a little bit about

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<v Speaker 4>what the Sixteen Pyramids are.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, Okay, Well, first of all, you're not the first person, sayah,

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<v Speaker 6>to tell me that this book contains a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>new information. It certainly does that. Well. The Sixteen Pyramids

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<v Speaker 6>that is a reference to the ancient Egyptian god Osiris,

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<v Speaker 6>which is the of the title of the book the

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<v Speaker 6>Secret Chamber of Asiris. In the myth that's come down

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<v Speaker 6>to us about a Cyrus from Plutarch, we're told that

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<v Speaker 6>Ciris had a brother Set, who was basically jealous of

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<v Speaker 6>the fact that Ciris was the king of Egypt. And

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<v Speaker 6>Set didn't like this. He wanted the throne of Egypt

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<v Speaker 6>for himself, so basically set about undermining a Ciris, and

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<v Speaker 6>eventually he kills Osiris, murders of Siris with seventy two conspirators,

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<v Speaker 6>and he cuts the body of Asiris up into sixteen parts.

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<v Speaker 6>This is what we're told. Some versions of the story

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<v Speaker 6>say fourteen parts. The Plutarch version of the story says

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<v Speaker 6>fourteen parts, but the Dioderus version says sixteen parts. The

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<v Speaker 6>Dioderus version is the earlier version saidley fourteen parts. Sixteen parts.

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<v Speaker 6>Asiris's body is cut into by Set and his gang

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<v Speaker 6>of conspirators, and it's scattered across the land of Egypt.

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<v Speaker 6>These sixteen parts are scattered across the land of Egypt,

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<v Speaker 6>and basically Isis, who was the wife of Osiris, went

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<v Speaker 6>about Egypt looking for the parts of Asiris in order

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<v Speaker 6>to wrap the body in linen and mummy wrapping to

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<v Speaker 6>wrap the body, to find the body parts and wrap

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<v Speaker 6>them together to make a cirius whole again. But she

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<v Speaker 6>could only find It's found most of the parts except

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<v Speaker 6>one part, which was the phallus of Osiris. Now that's

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<v Speaker 6>one part of the connection of you. Like the other

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<v Speaker 6>part was I was reading the pyramid texts, ancient egyptianyramid texts. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>these are the earliest religious writings that we have anywhere

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<v Speaker 6>in the world. And these writings were inscribed upon the

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<v Speaker 6>walls of the Fifth dynasty pyramids of Tetty and Eunice.

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<v Speaker 6>The pharaohs are the kings of Egypt, King Eunice, King Tetty.

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<v Speaker 6>And in these text we are told, in these religious writings,

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<v Speaker 6>we are told that it says this quite clearly, the

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<v Speaker 6>pyramid is a cyrus. The construction is the construction of

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<v Speaker 6>the pyramid is a cyrus. It says that quite clearly

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<v Speaker 6>and quite succinctly. So I got to thinking. I started

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<v Speaker 6>connecting dots here and thought, well, a minut of pyramid

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<v Speaker 6>texts are saying the pyramid is a cyrus. And we

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<v Speaker 6>are told that set cut his body into sixteen parts

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<v Speaker 6>and scattered them across the land of Egypt. Well, wouldn't

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<v Speaker 6>that then be set essentially scattering sixteen pyramids across the

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<v Speaker 6>land of Egypt. So that really was the connection. And

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not sure, I'm not one hundred percent sure, but

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<v Speaker 6>I think I'm probably maybe the first person to make

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<v Speaker 6>that sort of association. Now what I then did was

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<v Speaker 6>I thought, well, okay, let's let's have a wee look

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<v Speaker 6>at this. Let's look at the first sixteen completed pyramids

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<v Speaker 6>that the ancient Egyptian's built. Now, I got doctor Martin

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<v Speaker 6>Lehner's book, The Complete Pyramids, which is a fantastic book

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<v Speaker 6>for anyone interested in, you know, learning about you ancient

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<v Speaker 6>Egyptian culture. It's a really really good book for you know, beginners,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, to learn the sort of elementaries about the

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<v Speaker 6>ancient Gyptian civilization. Well, anyway, in doctor Lennar's book, he

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<v Speaker 6>lists the first nineteen pyramids, and this takes us up

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<v Speaker 6>from the very first pyramid that built at Sikara, the

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<v Speaker 6>step Pyramid, right up to the Pyramid of Mankaura at Giza.

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<v Speaker 6>Now there's that's a total of nineteen pyramids, but three

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<v Speaker 6>of them we know barely got off the ground, were

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<v Speaker 6>never completed. So in that list there you've got sixteen pyramids,

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<v Speaker 6>and that takes you up to the end of the

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<v Speaker 6>great pyramid building age, funnily enough, you know. So what

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<v Speaker 6>I then did. I took the sixteen completed pyramids and

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<v Speaker 6>IP plotted them onto a map of Giza. And I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't think anything would come of it. But what I

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<v Speaker 6>plotted was it. I don't know if you're familiar, and

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<v Speaker 6>Sorayah with the sort of classic image of a Cyrus,

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<v Speaker 6>the god of Cyrus. He stands there with his active crown.

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<v Speaker 6>Now the active crown is a white crown with three

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<v Speaker 6>prongs which came out at the top of the crown

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<v Speaker 6>and in the center. The center prong of the crown

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<v Speaker 6>is slightly taller than the two at the sides, and

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<v Speaker 6>he stands straight down. He has his arms crossed with

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<v Speaker 6>a crook and flail one in each hand, and then

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<v Speaker 6>his body straight down. You know, that's a classic Cyrus figure.

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<v Speaker 6>What I found when I plotted these sixteen you know,

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<v Speaker 6>these first pyramids onto the ground at Giza. In Egypt,

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<v Speaker 6>you've got the step pyramid at Sakara, you've got the

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<v Speaker 6>pyramids at dash Shure, you've got the pyramids at Giza,

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<v Speaker 6>you've got the pyramids at Abbey, rewashed, the pyramids that

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<v Speaker 6>may Doom. So I plotted all those onto the ground,

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<v Speaker 6>and lo and behold. I couldn't believe it. It created

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<v Speaker 6>what I call a sort of outline, a basic outline,

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<v Speaker 6>a stick man if you like, all the classic Asiris

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<v Speaker 6>figure with the crown with the three problems, the center

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<v Speaker 6>one slightly longer, the crossed arms with the crooking flu

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<v Speaker 6>and then the legs just going straight down. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>you know from the very top pyramid, which is the

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<v Speaker 6>highest pyramid that represented the highest the highest point of

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<v Speaker 6>this Asirius figure. The pyramidwash is the highest pyramid, and

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<v Speaker 6>I think in Egypt. Actually don't quote me on that,

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<v Speaker 6>but I think it's certainly in the Memphite region that's

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<v Speaker 6>the highest pyramid going down all the way down to Maydoom.

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<v Speaker 6>It created the classic outline shape of the god Osiris

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<v Speaker 6>when I plotted these for sixteen pyramids onto a map

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<v Speaker 6>of Giza. So there you go, that's the sixteen pyramids.

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<v Speaker 6>That's where the whole concept comes from. But the secret

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<v Speaker 6>chamber aspect of it, what that is is isis if

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<v Speaker 6>the sixteen pyramids are visible, these are the visible pyramids.

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<v Speaker 6>We're told that isis found all those parts. Now, this

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<v Speaker 6>is all allegorical mythology we're dealing with here. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>we're giving hidden messages in this myth This is what

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<v Speaker 6>I think we're being told. So she found all the

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<v Speaker 6>sixteen parts because hey, they're up in the ground, they're visible.

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<v Speaker 6>You can see them for twenty thirty forty miles away. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>so she could find all those, but there's a parts

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<v Speaker 6>she couldn't find. And what I think that is saying

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<v Speaker 6>is that there's a hidden maybe not a pyramid as such,

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<v Speaker 6>but there's a hidden vault because each of the pyramids

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<v Speaker 6>have vaults inside them. There's a hidden vault, a secret

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<v Speaker 6>chamber somewhere close, I think to geezer, and that is

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<v Speaker 6>what the Secret Chamber of Osiris is all about. I

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<v Speaker 6>actually went to Egypt. I pinpointed. I came up with

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<v Speaker 6>a theory that pinpointed where I believe that secret chamber

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<v Speaker 6>actually was, and I went to Egypt back in two

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<v Speaker 6>thousand and eight to try and find it. So that's

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<v Speaker 6>that's essentially what the secret Chamber of a Siens Lost

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<v Speaker 6>knowledge of the Sixteen Pyramids. That's the bare bones of

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<v Speaker 6>what the book is about.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay. And there are a lot of different legends about

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<v Speaker 4>hidden chambers, aren't there.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, I mean you know, yeah, there's there's there's

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<v Speaker 6>many many tales of secret knowledge, hall of records, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>That's that's that's that's come down to us. There's a

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<v Speaker 6>specific one about Thoth hide the secret knowledge the Books

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<v Speaker 6>of Osiris basically somewhere you know in Egypt, somewhere you know,

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<v Speaker 6>it's it's it's invisible, you know, these these these specifically

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<v Speaker 6>says that this chamber is unseen, which to me implies, well,

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<v Speaker 6>that means it must be a bray chamber of some kind.

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<v Speaker 6>As as I said earlier, I came up with a

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<v Speaker 6>theory where I believed this this secret chamber was actually located.

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<v Speaker 6>And a funny thing is I actually when was it.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it was in two thousand and nine something

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<v Speaker 6>something like that. I wrote to doctor Zahi Hawass, who

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<v Speaker 6>was then the you know, the head guy and the

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<v Speaker 6>Supreme Council of Antiquities in Egypt, right, and I told

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<v Speaker 6>him about the theory and we I believe this chamber

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<v Speaker 6>might be and you know, it was. It was quite incredible.

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<v Speaker 6>Within a few months of that email going to doctor Hawass,

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<v Speaker 6>the site was being majorly excavated. Now, this is a

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<v Speaker 6>site that's been it's laying untouched, you know, for millions

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<v Speaker 6>of years, and then all of a sudden, I write

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<v Speaker 6>to Hallass with this theory, you know, I explain it

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<v Speaker 6>to you know, and then you know, a few months later,

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<v Speaker 6>it's been majorly excavated. Now that could just be pure coincidence,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, it could be, but hey, you know, there

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<v Speaker 6>could be more to.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe he figured there's a chance you're right, better look

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<v Speaker 6>Well, well that's well, that's that's that's basically it could

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<v Speaker 6>be that. The thing is, if you've gone to Google

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<v Speaker 6>leaf No, you can actually look at the site and

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<v Speaker 6>you can see it's it's been completely concrete. It loose

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<v Speaker 6>like it's been concreted over, completely concreted over. And actually

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<v Speaker 6>a guy that had been working with he sent me

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<v Speaker 6>some once I'd identified this location, he sent me some

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<v Speaker 6>gamma processed images of the actual location. And you know,

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<v Speaker 6>to me, there looks as if and to him as well,

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<v Speaker 6>there looks as if there is a geometric forum under

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<v Speaker 6>that spot that I identified, but again and it's now

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<v Speaker 6>been concreted over, so I don't know. I could be

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<v Speaker 6>making a mountain out of a pyramid out of a mohile.

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<v Speaker 6>Who knows, but it's certainly very interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you had tried to actually walked that location.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I did, as I said, I identified where I

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<v Speaker 6>thought this chamber, the secret hidden chamber, the lost part

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<v Speaker 6>of a Cyrus was. And in two thousand and eight

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<v Speaker 6>I went into the Gezer Plateau and headed basically southwest,

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<v Speaker 6>I tried to get over the fence, which you probably

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<v Speaker 6>read in the book, and it didn't It didn't turn

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<v Speaker 6>out too well. It certainly didn't turn out too well,

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<v Speaker 6>but you know it was it was certainly an adventure.

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<v Speaker 6>So anyway, the next day I tried to you know,

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<v Speaker 6>even today, I mean I wrote to Hawass and asked

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<v Speaker 6>him about this fence, because this fence is called Hawass's wall.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, it just literally cuts off the entire Geze

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<v Speaker 6>of plateau for for like miles. You know, you just

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<v Speaker 6>can't get beyond this fence. That was me heading through

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<v Speaker 6>the Giza Plateo heading southwest. Now what I did the

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<v Speaker 6>next day, once I came up to know was confronted

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<v Speaker 6>by that obstacle. The next day, I tried a different tact.

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<v Speaker 6>I walked right round the Giza Plateau, heading due south,

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<v Speaker 6>but on the main road, and all the way down

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<v Speaker 6>I could see these, I could see the fence. I

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<v Speaker 6>could see these towers, these these probably stone concrete towers

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<v Speaker 6>with guards in them, with rifles and whatnot, and it

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<v Speaker 6>was all fenced. Often I kept walking, I must have.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know how many kilometers are I walked, probably

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<v Speaker 6>maybe about five kilometers or something, maybe six or seven kilometers,

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<v Speaker 6>just kept going, and then eventually I came to a

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<v Speaker 6>gate I was beyond. I could see to the left.

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<v Speaker 6>I was beyond hallasses wall at this point. But I've

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<v Speaker 6>still got this this fence, and it continued for miles

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<v Speaker 6>as well. I was trying to come up to the

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<v Speaker 6>where I thought this this hidden chamber might be from

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<v Speaker 6>the south, I was trying to where was before I

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<v Speaker 6>attempted it from the north. Now I was trying to

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<v Speaker 6>come at it from the south to walk up towards

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<v Speaker 6>it from the south, but I couldn't get in from

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<v Speaker 6>that direction nine because there's this fence that just went

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<v Speaker 6>for miles and miles and miles, you know. So that was,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, the reason I wanted to get to that

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<v Speaker 6>particular spot. I mean, I wasn't to I didn't have

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<v Speaker 6>like a you know, a shovel or a spade in

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<v Speaker 6>a back a pick accident. I just wanted to kind

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<v Speaker 6>of go to that spot because of the significance which

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<v Speaker 6>I think is geometrically attached to that spot. And that's

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<v Speaker 6>had taken with me at the time. I'd got made

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<v Speaker 6>a small granite made of Scottish granite pyramidian, a small pyramid.

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<v Speaker 6>You can hold it, you can hold it in one hand,

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<v Speaker 6>and on the base of it, I had what I

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<v Speaker 6>called the great Gezer triangle. If you read the book,

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<v Speaker 6>it makes sense to you. So I had that on

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<v Speaker 6>the base of the pyramid because this theory, which I

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<v Speaker 6>call the centroid theory, creates this great Gezer triangle and

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<v Speaker 6>that points to this specific location. So I had that

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<v Speaker 6>engraved on the base of the very spot at this triangle,

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<v Speaker 6>this great triangle Geza points to and I was hoping

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<v Speaker 6>to bury it, you know, bury this small pyramid pyramidian

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<v Speaker 6>under the sands at that location, but say a few

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<v Speaker 6>words from the hymn to a Cyrus at the same time.

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<v Speaker 6>So it was it was more really like a sort

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<v Speaker 6>of a homage we like to the builders, because I

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<v Speaker 6>still even to this day, believe that there may be

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<v Speaker 6>something important at that specific location.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's weird that they would have concrete towers with

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<v Speaker 4>guards and everything else pretty much just off in the

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<v Speaker 4>middle of the desert.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, the explanation doctor Hawas sent back to me was basically,

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<v Speaker 6>what was it, This is to protect our guests of

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<v Speaker 6>Egypt this you know, it was just that short and

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<v Speaker 6>that bland basically. I mean, I know Egypt back then,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, did have problems with the tourists being kidnapped

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<v Speaker 6>and so forth. But I mean it was it was

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<v Speaker 6>very very rare, you know, you know, so and you

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<v Speaker 6>don't have other sites like sites that you know, Sakara

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<v Speaker 6>or may Doom or any dash. Sure you don't. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>the pyramids there, they're not fenced off like that at all,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, so it just seemed a bit strange, the

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<v Speaker 6>very very I mean I have stood soaya, I have

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<v Speaker 6>stood between the paws of the Great Sphinx, looking at

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<v Speaker 6>the dream stella, reading the dream stella between the paws

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<v Speaker 6>of the Great Sphinx. Now there are I'm an amateur egyptologists. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I study ancient Egypt on an amateur basis. Now there

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<v Speaker 6>are badge carrying Egyptologists, fullly professional qualfee qualified Egyptolists that

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<v Speaker 6>haven't been allowed to do that. No, because it's such

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<v Speaker 6>a well guarded place, and the permissions to get to

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<v Speaker 6>go in there are you know, hard to come by,

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<v Speaker 6>but not impossible. Yeah. M so I was able to

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<v Speaker 6>get in there, but I couldn't get into that spot

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<v Speaker 6>where us it's nothing but sand, you know. So it

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<v Speaker 6>just it seems. It seemed a bit strange. It seemed

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<v Speaker 6>a bit bizarre. But hey, you know, one of these

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<v Speaker 6>days I will go back and I will make another attempt.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, when you mentioned the Sphinx, I think the most

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<v Speaker 4>famous secret chamber that most people are aware of is

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<v Speaker 4>the one Casey predicted underneath the Pauw the Sphinx.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, I mean I've I've read I've read a

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<v Speaker 6>bit about that. I've read that the you know, some

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<v Speaker 6>test bores drills we were put, you know, under the ground,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think there's been some cavities found there, but

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<v Speaker 6>you know, maybe there is, you know, I think, I

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<v Speaker 6>mean to to my mind, the whole the whole concept

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<v Speaker 6>of building these pyramids, it was a it was a

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<v Speaker 6>one off project. And you know, because this is this

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<v Speaker 6>is one of the things that the ancient Gypsum's tell us.

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<v Speaker 6>One of the myths or legends that come down to us.

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<v Speaker 6>There's two stories, two main stories about the purpose of

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<v Speaker 6>these giant pyramids that come down to us from ancient

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<v Speaker 6>times and the stories that the were preserved by the

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<v Speaker 6>Arab chroniclers is that the pyramids were built as tombs.

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<v Speaker 6>But the Arab chroniclers also tell us that the pyramids,

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<v Speaker 6>I'll come back to this sphinx thing in a few

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<v Speaker 6>moments that the Arab chronicles also tell us that the

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<v Speaker 6>pyramids were also built effectively to secure the kingdom against

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<v Speaker 6>a great deluge that the ancient Gypsums believed was about

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<v Speaker 6>to strike their their kingdom. Well, not just about the

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<v Speaker 6>reckon that would happen in three hundred years, that's what

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<v Speaker 6>the king's astronomer priests told them. Something happened in the heavens,

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<v Speaker 6>and King Saurid asked his astronomer priests what does this

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<v Speaker 6>change in the heavens mean? And they told the king

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<v Speaker 6>in three hundred years time, there was going to be

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<v Speaker 6>a great deluge which will drown the entire country. That's

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<v Speaker 6>what they told them. And the king said, okay, we're

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<v Speaker 6>going to build pyramids, and in those pyramids we are

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<v Speaker 6>going to secure everything that we need to ensure that

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<v Speaker 6>the kingdom can be reborn again and can rise like

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<v Speaker 6>a phoenix from the ashes of its destruction. So and

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<v Speaker 6>that is essentially what I call project a Cirius because

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<v Speaker 6>a Cyrus you may know us, was identified with grain.

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<v Speaker 6>He's a god, ancient Gyptrin god of rebirth, of regeneration,

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<v Speaker 6>but also the ancient Gyptian god of agriculture, and grain

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<v Speaker 6>is symbolized by grain. Now, that is one of the

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<v Speaker 6>main things that they would have stored in these pyramids,

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<v Speaker 6>with seeds of all kinds, all manner of seeds, balle wheaked,

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<v Speaker 6>all types of grain, corn, you know, tomato, seeds, peppersed,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, every type of seed that they would need

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<v Speaker 6>in order to reseed the kingdom after it was completely

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<v Speaker 6>washed away by this great deluge that they believed was

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<v Speaker 6>coming their way. Now, whether it did or not, as

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<v Speaker 6>acts material, they believe that was that was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 6>So this is this was their preemptive action in order

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<v Speaker 6>to try and save their civilization. They built these sixteen pyramids,

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<v Speaker 6>and in these pyramids is stored one of one of

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<v Speaker 6>the things that would have stored as a whole load

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<v Speaker 6>of seeds, grains of all kinds. Now, remember earlier I

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<v Speaker 6>said that the first sixteen pyramids of you plot them

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<v Speaker 6>on a map, they give you a woundimentary outline figure

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<v Speaker 6>of the classic of Ciris. Yeah, well that was the

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<v Speaker 6>body of Asiris. That or that came to those sixteen

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<v Speaker 6>pyramids came to represent the body of Asiris cut up

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<v Speaker 6>into sixteen pieces, as the myth legend of Asiris tells us. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>they would have stored a lot of grain in those pyramids. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>if you look at the Pyramid of Skara or the

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<v Speaker 6>step pyramid at Sicara, that's the first pyramid that the

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<v Speaker 6>ancient Gypsy's built. They didn't find a pharaoh's body in there.

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<v Speaker 6>That's I found a bit of bone wrapped in mummy

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<v Speaker 6>wrapping a foot I think it was, but it was

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<v Speaker 6>it was carbon dated to be thousands of years after

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<v Speaker 6>you know, Zosa, who was the king that's supposed to

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<v Speaker 6>have built this pyramid. Now, they didn't find any king

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<v Speaker 6>in there. But what they did find in the Step

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<v Speaker 6>Pyramid at Sicara was you know, tons and tons and

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<v Speaker 6>tons of grain, tens of thousands of storage vessels of

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<v Speaker 6>all kinds, tens of about forty thousand of them. And

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<v Speaker 6>you know, under the Step pyramid does corridors as passageways

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<v Speaker 6>that literally, I know, there's it's a warren, it's kilometers

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<v Speaker 6>of passageways. And nearly explorers, the first explorers nearly twentieth

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<v Speaker 6>century that we're under the pyramid complex at Sakara, they

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<v Speaker 6>were walking through passageways, you know, almost knee deep in

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<v Speaker 6>grainy you know. So this is what I'm saying. And

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<v Speaker 6>there's evidence of secondary evidence as well that the Great

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<v Speaker 6>Pyramid once contained massive amounts of grain. Explained that in

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<v Speaker 6>the book. So this is what I'm saying. The body

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<v Speaker 6>of a Ciris, you know, Cyrus was identified with grain

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<v Speaker 6>and agriculture, you know, because that's what they put in

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<v Speaker 6>these pyramids. And the funny thing is, you know, the

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<v Speaker 6>later festivals that the ancient gypsum later Donesses would have

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<v Speaker 6>a festival called the Festival of Kuak, and this was

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<v Speaker 6>a festival to celebrate the death and birth of Osiris.

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<v Speaker 6>And what the ancient Egypsums in these later dynasties would

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<v Speaker 6>do is they would create small dolls are made of clay,

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<v Speaker 6>about eighteen inches twenty inches tall. Yeah, and it was

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<v Speaker 6>just made of clay, and inside the clay, inside the mud,

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<v Speaker 6>they would fill it, would make a cavity and fill

413
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<v Speaker 6>it with grain. Yeah, and then they would wrap it

414
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:27.279
<v Speaker 6>in linen, and then they would bury it in the

415
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:30.240
<v Speaker 6>ground and put a big rock on top of it,

416
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:33.400
<v Speaker 6>symbolized in the pyramid. Sometimes they would even put the

417
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:36.440
<v Speaker 6>doll in what was called it's like a miniature for

418
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:40.039
<v Speaker 6>all intense purposes, like a miniature sarcophagus. Yeah, and they

419
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:42.279
<v Speaker 6>would bury that in the ground and stick a big

420
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:43.319
<v Speaker 6>rock on top of it.

421
00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:43.880
<v Speaker 4>You know.

422
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:48.160
<v Speaker 6>So here we have the ancient Egyptians knew that what

423
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:53.240
<v Speaker 6>was originally in these first sixteen pyramids. They knew it

424
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:56.480
<v Speaker 6>was once upon a time filled with grain because it

425
00:28:56.680 --> 00:28:59.519
<v Speaker 6>was the body of a cyris cut into sixteen pieces, yeah,

426
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:02.079
<v Speaker 6>a scattered across the land of Egypt. But originally it

427
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:05.000
<v Speaker 6>was filled with grain. This is why later on they're making,

428
00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:08.839
<v Speaker 6>you know, small effigies of a cyrus filling the interior

429
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:12.200
<v Speaker 6>of the body with grain. They're doing the same thing,

430
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:19.480
<v Speaker 6>but obviously and you know, symbolic ceremonial fashion. And one

431
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:22.319
<v Speaker 6>of the other things that they would do Soria is

432
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:27.640
<v Speaker 6>they would they would they would create these small like

433
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:33.039
<v Speaker 6>stone boxes, like miniature sarcophagus. Yeah, and they would fill

434
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:37.559
<v Speaker 6>it with earth and scatter some seeds on the earth,

435
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:41.160
<v Speaker 6>and then they would bury this box. They put a

436
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:43.920
<v Speaker 6>lid on it. You know, this is only about eighteen

437
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:47.359
<v Speaker 6>twenty inches long. They would bury it in the sand

438
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:51.279
<v Speaker 6>and they would put a big rock on top of it. Yeah,

439
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:53.960
<v Speaker 6>so you've got a box of earth with a big

440
00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:57.039
<v Speaker 6>rock on top of it. What's that all about. Well,

441
00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:00.640
<v Speaker 6>if you go back to the actual pyramids, we find

442
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:04.839
<v Speaker 6>in the pyramids, well, you know, the pyramid of Cafra

443
00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:08.039
<v Speaker 6>at Gizer, that's the one that looks the tallest, but

444
00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:10.400
<v Speaker 6>that's it's not the Great Pyramid, but it looks like

445
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:16.240
<v Speaker 6>the great pyramids won in the Middle at Gezer Giant Pyramid.

446
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:20.720
<v Speaker 6>When Duo Vanni Bolzoni went into that pyramid in eighteen eighteen,

447
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:24.960
<v Speaker 6>he got to the chamber, he saw the stone granite,

448
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:28.519
<v Speaker 6>stone box, which he Gittall just called a sarcophagus, but

449
00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:32.440
<v Speaker 6>which I call a nebank, and nebank means a possessor

450
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:38.640
<v Speaker 6>or container of life. Bozoni opened his box. He didn't

451
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:40.960
<v Speaker 6>find a body in it. What do you think you

452
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:43.519
<v Speaker 6>found in it?

453
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:45.839
<v Speaker 4>Wasn't it the bonds of a ball?

454
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:51.680
<v Speaker 6>That's partly correct. He found it filled with earth, all right, Yeah,

455
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:57.799
<v Speaker 6>he found it filled with earth. And when he sifted

456
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:03.680
<v Speaker 6>through this earth he found fragments of bull bones. And

457
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.680
<v Speaker 6>again the bull is connected with asyrus. The bull is

458
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:11.240
<v Speaker 6>connected with grain because in the fields of bulls would

459
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 6>trample the grain into the ground so that it would Germany.

460
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:20.799
<v Speaker 6>You know. So this was achathonic ritual. These stone boxes

461
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 6>had nothing to do with burying a king. It was

462
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:29.079
<v Speaker 6>an earth ritual. This box of earth was a tathonic

463
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:34.839
<v Speaker 6>earth ritual about the earth being reborn, the kingdom being reborn,

464
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:39.240
<v Speaker 6>not the king being reborn. That would come later, you know,

465
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:47.119
<v Speaker 6>much later after these pyramids which were built for a

466
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:52.319
<v Speaker 6>very perfunctory, practical reason to assist the kingdom and being

467
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:57.480
<v Speaker 6>reborn after the deluge had destroyed it, which well, we

468
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:00.880
<v Speaker 6>don't know if the deluge occurred. But if it did,

469
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:04.200
<v Speaker 6>then the pyramids did their job. They were obviously eventually

470
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:10.000
<v Speaker 6>emptied of all their their their their content. But in

471
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:15.359
<v Speaker 6>time the pyramids structure itself would be associated with rebirth.

472
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:21.000
<v Speaker 6>You know. The pyramid shape is associated with the There's

473
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:24.240
<v Speaker 6>a thing called the the apex of the pyramid. The

474
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:28.400
<v Speaker 6>capstone is called the ben Benz stone, which is named

475
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:33.160
<v Speaker 6>after the Egyptian bird, the Benue bird. The bird has

476
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:39.160
<v Speaker 6>similar properties and eusp to the phoenix, whereby it's associated

477
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:42.440
<v Speaker 6>with things that rise from the dead or rise up

478
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:45.400
<v Speaker 6>from the ashes of its destruction. That's what the pyramid

479
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:50.519
<v Speaker 6>shape symbolizes, you know. So all this material, you know,

480
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:53.680
<v Speaker 6>it's all about the rebirth of the earth. You know.

481
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:58.400
<v Speaker 6>The ancient Egyptian creation myth talks about, you know, the

482
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:03.359
<v Speaker 6>the pyramid coming up out of the floodwaters, you know,

483
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:07.920
<v Speaker 6>and the pyramid opening up, and everything in creation comes

484
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:12.039
<v Speaker 6>out of the pyramids. It's what's inside the pyramid that

485
00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:14.920
<v Speaker 6>comes out that allows the kingdom to be reborn, that

486
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:18.799
<v Speaker 6>allows the civilization to reboot itself. This is what their

487
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:21.759
<v Speaker 6>creation myth is telling us, you know. So this is

488
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:26.559
<v Speaker 6>what the Arab texts tell us. But obviously in later

489
00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:30.680
<v Speaker 6>times these pyramids would be repurposed as toms because they

490
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:36.519
<v Speaker 6>would become in time religious icons associated with rebirth. It

491
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:39.839
<v Speaker 6>a regeneration machine. So the king, well, he's thinking, no,

492
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:43.160
<v Speaker 6>I want a piece of that action, So he gets

493
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:46.160
<v Speaker 6>himself put in these things. He might even have built

494
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:50.160
<v Speaker 6>a smaller one for himself, you know, as the religion developed,

495
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:53.799
<v Speaker 6>you know, as the Cyrus cult developed in time, you know,

496
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:57.559
<v Speaker 6>this is essentially what happened. But in the beginning, you know,

497
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:03.559
<v Speaker 6>these were practical things. Now coming back to the Sphinx, Yeah,

498
00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:07.799
<v Speaker 6>coming back to the Sphinx, which about the chamber down below.

499
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:13.239
<v Speaker 6>It seems to me that you know, if you're building

500
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:16.840
<v Speaker 6>a recovery system and you're putting in recovery items, you

501
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:21.159
<v Speaker 6>know you want needs to be found as quickly as possible.

502
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:22.639
<v Speaker 6>So the one thing you're going to do is make

503
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:25.199
<v Speaker 6>them as big as possible and strong as possible. People

504
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:28.920
<v Speaker 6>can see them for miles away. Yep, you want them found.

505
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:31.800
<v Speaker 6>But that's not something you would want if you were

506
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:34.320
<v Speaker 6>the king of idiot. You don't want your you don't

507
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.280
<v Speaker 6>want everybody every tomb raid on the land known where

508
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:40.599
<v Speaker 6>your tomb is. You just don't you know. So that's

509
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:45.480
<v Speaker 6>a complete contradiction that Egyptologists are presenting us with. Right, So,

510
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:48.679
<v Speaker 6>but you do want it found as quickly as possible.

511
00:34:48.760 --> 00:34:52.400
<v Speaker 6>If these are like recovery vaults or arcs, you want

512
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:56.480
<v Speaker 6>it found as quickly as possible. Now, where are you

513
00:34:56.519 --> 00:35:00.599
<v Speaker 6>going to put your precious items? Are you going to

514
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:04.199
<v Speaker 6>put them in the pyramids? Are you are you going

515
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:07.639
<v Speaker 6>to put them somewhere else? Because if people know that

516
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:12.320
<v Speaker 6>there's precious items in these pyramids, you know, as soon

517
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:14.599
<v Speaker 6>as they're sealed up, you know, people are going to

518
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:17.280
<v Speaker 6>be breaking into them because they know there's there's precious

519
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:21.320
<v Speaker 6>stuff in there. There's precious items artifacts in there, they're

520
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:23.599
<v Speaker 6>going to get broken into. But if people know, well,

521
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:25.840
<v Speaker 6>all that's in it is some tools and grain, they're

522
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.800
<v Speaker 6>not going to bother. They just won't bother. Yeah, So,

523
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:35.400
<v Speaker 6>whether you're going to put your precious you know, religious

524
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:40.280
<v Speaker 6>material artifacts, you're going to store them away somewhere that's hidden.

525
00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:44.440
<v Speaker 6>That's why I'm thinking, well, the sphinx isn't actually hidden.

526
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:49.280
<v Speaker 6>You can see it, you know, So would there really

527
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:52.360
<v Speaker 6>be a cavity under there under the sphinx? You know,

528
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:56.119
<v Speaker 6>to put presss items because you know, you want you

529
00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:59.360
<v Speaker 6>want these items to be found by not not just

530
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:03.519
<v Speaker 6>your average you know, tomb raider. You know who's who's

531
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:07.559
<v Speaker 6>basically you know, just wanting it for his own ends

532
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:12.519
<v Speaker 6>to enriches, enrich himself. You want to be found by

533
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:15.360
<v Speaker 6>people of enlightened minds. So you're going to make it

534
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:20.960
<v Speaker 6>not obvious where this material is buried. And this is

535
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:24.079
<v Speaker 6>explained in the book. So I don't think personally, I

536
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:27.599
<v Speaker 6>don't think the sphinx there will be anything of any

537
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:32.440
<v Speaker 6>great significance found under in this cavity, under those sphinx.

538
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:35.920
<v Speaker 6>But I do think the sphinx serves a very very

539
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:41.559
<v Speaker 6>crucial function at the Gezer site, and that's also explained

540
00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:45.719
<v Speaker 6>in the book. It's part of the Gezer star clock.

541
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:48.840
<v Speaker 6>Part of the plan, part of the plan of Project

542
00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:52.000
<v Speaker 6>Aside is to build these sixteen pyramids, was to arrange

543
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:54.440
<v Speaker 6>some of them, these are the ones at Giza, into

544
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:57.119
<v Speaker 6>a star clock so that they could tell, you know,

545
00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:00.480
<v Speaker 6>they could mark the date when this you know, site

546
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:03.719
<v Speaker 6>was created, when this event occurred to you like, where

547
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:06.519
<v Speaker 6>they started building these pyramids. They've marked a date when

548
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:10.079
<v Speaker 6>they started building these pyramids, and the date from what

549
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:13.639
<v Speaker 6>I can tell from what I've been able to research

550
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:18.880
<v Speaker 6>and work out, is seventeen thousand BC. Almost these structures

551
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:22.719
<v Speaker 6>are almost nineteen thousand years old. And the remarkable thing

552
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:28.960
<v Speaker 6>is sorayah that corresponds with the start of the end

553
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:33.400
<v Speaker 6>of the last Ice Age, which is almost about twenty

554
00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:37.079
<v Speaker 6>thousand nineteen, twenty thousand years ago. You know, so something

555
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:41.920
<v Speaker 6>we don't know what happened to bring about the termination

556
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:44.480
<v Speaker 6>of the last Ice Age. We're still not absolutely certain

557
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.480
<v Speaker 6>why that happened. What was the trigger that caused these

558
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:51.559
<v Speaker 6>great ice sheets to suddenly begin to melt after hundreds

559
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:55.639
<v Speaker 6>of thousands of years? What was the trigger? Did some

560
00:37:55.880 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 6>did the earth pole move where these great ice sheets

561
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:04.159
<v Speaker 6>moved into a warmer climate where it started, you know,

562
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.280
<v Speaker 6>to melt. And if that is the case, then it

563
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:11.400
<v Speaker 6>probably the myth that's come down to is that the

564
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:14.280
<v Speaker 6>Gypsians saw something in the sky so that the stars

565
00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:17.000
<v Speaker 6>had moved from the normal course and that this would

566
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:19.440
<v Speaker 6>mean in you know, three hundred years time, a great

567
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:21.719
<v Speaker 6>flood would come. Well, it may all be part of

568
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:22.519
<v Speaker 6>the same thing.

569
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<v Speaker 4>Right right then, the we got we gotta actually take

570
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<v Speaker 4>a quick break. Yeah, we'll be right back with Scottlancker.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we're talking with Scott Wright. Tonightey's latest book

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<v Speaker 4>is The Secret Chamber of Osirius Lost Knowledge of the

599
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<v Speaker 4>Sixteen Pyramids, And uh, you're actually only the second person

600
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<v Speaker 4>I've ever heard called the Pyramids arcs. The first was

601
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<v Speaker 4>Edmund Marriage with the Golden Age Project, but they talked

602
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<v Speaker 4>about people actually hiding in the pyramids as well. His

603
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<v Speaker 4>belief is that there was a commentary impact and the

604
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<v Speaker 4>pyramids we used to store not only grain and such,

605
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<v Speaker 4>but actually people.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I I don't I don't know about that. I'm

607
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<v Speaker 6>probably don't go along with Saraiah because just basically because

608
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<v Speaker 6>of the way that the Pyramids were sealed. Yeah, you know,

609
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:59.480
<v Speaker 6>they were sealed pretty tight, but not impregnable. This is

610
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<v Speaker 6>this is one of the remarkable things about the Great Pyramid.

611
00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:05.519
<v Speaker 6>You know, it's supposed to be a tomb of the

612
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:09.280
<v Speaker 6>feral Cufu, but when you actually look at the physical

613
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:14.920
<v Speaker 6>and practicalities of securing what was supposedly Cufu's burial chamber,

614
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:17.840
<v Speaker 6>of the King's chamber and the Great Pyramid. It just

615
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:21.039
<v Speaker 6>does not add up at all. And this is explained

616
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:25.280
<v Speaker 6>explained in the book. So, no, I don't really think

617
00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:29.679
<v Speaker 6>that you know, that they were they were arcs for

618
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:33.639
<v Speaker 6>people or such, because I think beside the pyramids there

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<v Speaker 6>are these I think people would probably have gone in boats,

620
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<v Speaker 6>you know, boat arcs if you like. And beside the pyramids,

621
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:45.880
<v Speaker 6>you know, every pyramid at gas and most pyramids there

622
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:51.440
<v Speaker 6>are these massive boat pits where there was massive boats,

623
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:58.000
<v Speaker 6>I suggest, and those boats were there for you know,

624
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:02.320
<v Speaker 6>obviously the elite of the people, you know, would take

625
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:05.280
<v Speaker 6>to the boats, you know, so they've they've stored all

626
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:08.840
<v Speaker 6>the stuff that they need to reboot their kingdom in

627
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:12.880
<v Speaker 6>the arcs, the pyramid arcs that they built, and they

628
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<v Speaker 6>would take to the boats beside the pyramid arcs. Now

629
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<v Speaker 6>the thing is as well, sir, you know the early

630
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<v Speaker 6>Christian writers actually there's images that we've got from from

631
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:31.760
<v Speaker 6>Christian times which actually showed that the the arc in

632
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:34.360
<v Speaker 6>the early Christian times was described as a pyramid.

633
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:37.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you have a drawing in the book on that's.

634
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<v Speaker 6>Right, yeah, you know, so it's not a fantastic, you know,

635
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:49.239
<v Speaker 6>out there theory after all our own civilization. It's kind

636
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:52.719
<v Speaker 6>of doing the same thing where we have seed vaults

637
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:56.159
<v Speaker 6>you know, all over the world and secret bunkers all

638
00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:58.679
<v Speaker 6>over the world. And I've also got a backup to

639
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:03.199
<v Speaker 6>these seed vaults and Svalbard in the Arctic Circle. It

640
00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:05.679
<v Speaker 6>opened in two thousand and eight, and that has got

641
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:10.199
<v Speaker 6>seeds stored there from all over the world and massive

642
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:16.239
<v Speaker 6>vaults in the Svalbard Global Seed Vault in case some

643
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:20.880
<v Speaker 6>catasiphe unforeseen catasaphe happens to the Earth. You know. So

644
00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:23.360
<v Speaker 6>we're kind of doing the same thing, except the ancient

645
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:26.480
<v Speaker 6>Egyptians really believed something was going to happen because they

646
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:29.320
<v Speaker 6>saw something and the hivens that really worried them.

647
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<v Speaker 4>And when you get to the end of the ice edge,

648
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:36.320
<v Speaker 4>just a polish shift wouldn't have been enough to melt

649
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:39.679
<v Speaker 4>the ice caps as quickly as they melted. I mean

650
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:41.920
<v Speaker 4>it's like what under one hundred years they say they

651
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:46.039
<v Speaker 4>completely melted. No, it quicker, Well.

652
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:51.639
<v Speaker 6>They melted over you know, several thousand years. The thing

653
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:57.880
<v Speaker 6>is the way the ice sheets melt, it's gradually you know,

654
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:01.960
<v Speaker 6>generally speaking, it would be gradual.

655
00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:05.639
<v Speaker 4>Well I think it started out gradual, but there was

656
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:08.880
<v Speaker 4>some events because very very suddenly.

657
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:11.199
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's right. What happens is the ice, the ice

658
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:15.199
<v Speaker 6>melts into effects of effectively what what is a big

659
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:17.039
<v Speaker 6>kind of bowl of water in the middle of the

660
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:21.599
<v Speaker 6>ice sheet. Yeah, and there's there's moraine that's built up,

661
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.679
<v Speaker 6>you know, like gravel and stuff and ice, and it's

662
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:29.000
<v Speaker 6>basically blocking all the holding all this water in. But

663
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:31.800
<v Speaker 6>eventually the water builds up so much as the ice

664
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:34.280
<v Speaker 6>melts at the pressure of the water is so great

665
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:38.679
<v Speaker 6>that these moraine dams burst, their breached and then you

666
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:44.320
<v Speaker 6>have a massive outpouring of you know, it defies description, really,

667
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:48.960
<v Speaker 6>you know, the most massive mega flood you could imagine.

668
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:52.119
<v Speaker 6>And one of these mega floods, I think it's lake

669
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:59.840
<v Speaker 6>gases mega frut that raighsed the global sea level. One

670
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:05.320
<v Speaker 6>estimate is raised the global sea level almost two meters, you.

671
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:07.239
<v Speaker 4>Know, and it wouldn't and it wouldn't just raise it, it

672
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:10.119
<v Speaker 4>would cause tsunamis Earth except.

673
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:13.599
<v Speaker 6>An imaginable devastation all over the globe. You know. So

674
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:18.519
<v Speaker 6>most of the world's populations then as now living along

675
00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:22.000
<v Speaker 6>the coastlines. Yeah, and so suddenly you've got the sea

676
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:27.840
<v Speaker 6>risen almost two meters. You know, that's horrendous devastation all

677
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:32.639
<v Speaker 6>over the world. You know. So, yeah, the ice melt,

678
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:35.400
<v Speaker 6>the sea level right, the sea level back then, you know,

679
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.840
<v Speaker 6>twenty nineteen thousand years ago, was four hundred feet lower

680
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:42.440
<v Speaker 6>than it is now. There was a gradual rise, yeah,

681
00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:47.320
<v Speaker 6>but these gradual rises were punctuated by massive sudden leaps

682
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:51.599
<v Speaker 6>in sea level, which would have devastated you know, cultures,

683
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:53.800
<v Speaker 6>civilizations all over the world.

684
00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:57.440
<v Speaker 4>And one of the things I really liked that you

685
00:45:57.480 --> 00:45:59.480
<v Speaker 4>did in this book is you kind of did a

686
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:01.280
<v Speaker 4>lot of research on Howard Vice.

687
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:07.000
<v Speaker 6>Old Vice. Yeah, yeah, what a guy. Yeah, I did

688
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:11.639
<v Speaker 6>this was this was actually part of something that I

689
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:17.920
<v Speaker 6>was investigating about some of Zechariah's Sitchen's work. Sich was

690
00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:21.880
<v Speaker 6>the guy who first claimed that Howard Advice faked the

691
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:27.159
<v Speaker 6>markings in these hidden chambers above the King's Chamber of

692
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:32.039
<v Speaker 6>the Great Pyramid. There's these painted marks that Howard Advice

693
00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:36.280
<v Speaker 6>apparently discovered in eighteen thirty seven, and Siction basically claimed

694
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:40.960
<v Speaker 6>that how Advice and faked these marks himself. Fortunately sicis

695
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:44.880
<v Speaker 6>argument it could have it could have done his research

696
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:48.480
<v Speaker 6>a little bit better. Some of his arguments there. I

697
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:52.599
<v Speaker 6>agree with the skeptics. There's there's some big holes there,

698
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:56.320
<v Speaker 6>but not in everything. Some of the things that said

699
00:46:56.519 --> 00:47:00.159
<v Speaker 6>still hold true today. One of the things pieces of

700
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:05.480
<v Speaker 6>evidence that sitch And presented was a log book entry

701
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:11.480
<v Speaker 6>from a guy called Walter Allen who lived in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

702
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:15.760
<v Speaker 6>And in this log book, which Walter Allen wrote in

703
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:20.840
<v Speaker 6>nineteen fifty four, he was an amateur genealogist and he

704
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:24.039
<v Speaker 6>was researching his family's history. Was speaking to his mother

705
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:29.159
<v Speaker 6>and some aunts and family elders, and they basically told

706
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:31.960
<v Speaker 6>him a story about his great grandfather, a guy called

707
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:37.559
<v Speaker 6>Humphreys Brewer, who worked with Howard Weice in eighteen thirty

708
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:40.960
<v Speaker 6>seven at the Pyramids. And the story that was passed

709
00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:45.199
<v Speaker 6>down to Walter Allen was this little segment where Humphreys

710
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:48.880
<v Speaker 6>Brewer had an argument, a disagreement with a couple of

711
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:52.280
<v Speaker 6>vices other assistants, a couple of a guy called Waving

712
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:58.559
<v Speaker 6>and another guy called Hill, about painting marks in the pyramid.

713
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:03.440
<v Speaker 6>Brewer says, that's come down to us is that some

714
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:10.559
<v Speaker 6>marks were repainted, faint marks were repainted, but somewhere new

715
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:14.519
<v Speaker 6>you know. So this is him basically saying Vice and

716
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:17.039
<v Speaker 6>his guys and he was arguing with him about this

717
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:21.960
<v Speaker 6>about painting marks inside the pyramid. Now that to me,

718
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:27.679
<v Speaker 6>I researched that. I said, well, wait a minute, is

719
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:32.960
<v Speaker 6>there anything that backs up what you know, how Humphrey's

720
00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:37.320
<v Speaker 6>Brewer is actually saying. So some people, some of the skeptics,

721
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:40.559
<v Speaker 6>the debunkers, were saying, oh, this guy, Humphrey's Brewer didn't

722
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:45.440
<v Speaker 6>even exist because he's not mentioned anywhere. And How Advices

723
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:50.079
<v Speaker 6>published books right, and he published them too, full volumes

724
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:53.400
<v Speaker 6>under an appendix, and he's not mentioned in any of them.

725
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:57.760
<v Speaker 6>Why you know. So I thought, well, that's that. That's

726
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:02.039
<v Speaker 6>a bit odd. That's a bit odd. So am I thought, right, well,

727
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:04.719
<v Speaker 6>what can I do here? So I managed to track

728
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:10.480
<v Speaker 6>how ad Vice's field notes, his actual handwritten field notes,

729
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:15.360
<v Speaker 6>to a small sort of library down in Aylesbury and

730
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:19.719
<v Speaker 6>the north North London. I managed to find his actual

731
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:23.760
<v Speaker 6>handwritten field notes, not his published notes, because I thought, well,

732
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:28.599
<v Speaker 6>if I could find those, maybe he mentions Humphreys Brewer

733
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:32.760
<v Speaker 6>in his field notes, but just didn't but redacted them

734
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:36.800
<v Speaker 6>from his published book his published books because of what

735
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:40.280
<v Speaker 6>he was basically saying that, you know, hey, you're a fraud.

736
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:43.760
<v Speaker 6>You know who's going to write that, you know, that

737
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:45.760
<v Speaker 6>story in their published account?

738
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:46.360
<v Speaker 1>You know.

739
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:49.800
<v Speaker 6>So I'm thinking, well, maybe maybe I can prove Humphrey's

740
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:53.679
<v Speaker 6>Brewer was it Egypt in eighteen thirty seven by finding

741
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:58.840
<v Speaker 6>the guy's you know, written notes. And I managed to

742
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:01.880
<v Speaker 6>find the notes, and I managed I found a whole

743
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:05.079
<v Speaker 6>lot more in those written notes, and I bargained for

744
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:06.440
<v Speaker 6>and it's explained in the book.

745
00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:13.079
<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, and you you really put a lot of

746
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:15.599
<v Speaker 4>work into researching him too. I mean you said his

747
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:17.679
<v Speaker 4>writing was especially unlegible.

748
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:24.920
<v Speaker 6>It's shockingly bad, you know. I was reading certain passages

749
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:29.719
<v Speaker 6>of his handwriting, you know, and I was spending days

750
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:35.159
<v Speaker 6>literally on one line, literally on one line. I was

751
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:38.280
<v Speaker 6>spending days, you know. So, but fortunately I got some

752
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:46.280
<v Speaker 6>help from various places, including some archivis in a very

753
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:51.280
<v Speaker 6>famous library here in Glasgow, the Mitchell Library, And there's

754
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:55.760
<v Speaker 6>some really good people in there who were used to handling,

755
00:50:56.199 --> 00:51:01.039
<v Speaker 6>you know, early nineteenth century documents, handwritten documents, and they

756
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:06.840
<v Speaker 6>were able to help me fairly substantially to read some

757
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:10.039
<v Speaker 6>of it. And the other thing as well, because he

758
00:51:11.239 --> 00:51:14.039
<v Speaker 6>wrote these books as well. I could actually use his

759
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:17.800
<v Speaker 6>published books and go to the same date in the

760
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:22.159
<v Speaker 6>handwritten notes and crosscheck to try and find words, you know,

761
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:24.880
<v Speaker 6>And I was able to do that. So eventually I

762
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:28.679
<v Speaker 6>was able to get a grasp, a fairly good grasp.

763
00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:31.480
<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't say I'm by any means an expert, because

764
00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:36.039
<v Speaker 6>there's still large you know, his writing. I don't know

765
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:39.079
<v Speaker 6>if you have the same problem in the States there, sarayah.

766
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:41.960
<v Speaker 6>But you know, when we get a doctor's prescription here,

767
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:44.360
<v Speaker 6>you know, to go to the pharmacy for some drug,

768
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:46.519
<v Speaker 6>it's just like a line, you know, but you know,

769
00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:50.599
<v Speaker 6>somehow the pharmacist can read it. You know, it's incredible,

770
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:54.760
<v Speaker 6>you know. So it's almost like that in some instances,

771
00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:58.440
<v Speaker 6>you know. So, but eventually I was able to read

772
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:03.880
<v Speaker 6>some of his his handwriting. But some of the things

773
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:10.239
<v Speaker 6>the great irony here is that he wrote some hieroglyphs

774
00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:15.519
<v Speaker 6>in his handwritten notes, which I could read no problem,

775
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:18.880
<v Speaker 6>you know, because you know, I could read these, no problem,

776
00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:21.840
<v Speaker 6>But I couldn't read his own handwriting. So but but

777
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:25.480
<v Speaker 6>the irony is that the hieroglyphs that he wrote in

778
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:32.400
<v Speaker 6>his book totally contradicted what he'd written in his published book. Yeah, yeah,

779
00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:36.199
<v Speaker 6>you know, so, h this is this, this, this, this,

780
00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:40.920
<v Speaker 6>this really raised some big, big questions about the authenticity

781
00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:46.679
<v Speaker 6>of those marks, and I put the detail of that

782
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:49.960
<v Speaker 6>in this book. But since then I've found a whole

783
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:55.159
<v Speaker 6>lot more material that I mean, have advice. Just just

784
00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:58.559
<v Speaker 6>to give your listeners a brief synopsis. The guy was

785
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:02.360
<v Speaker 6>it was a military and he came from a wealthy,

786
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:06.559
<v Speaker 6>wealthy family, was what we call the landed gentry here

787
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:11.039
<v Speaker 6>in the UK. You know, his family were very wealthy landowners.

788
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:16.159
<v Speaker 6>And he became a politician. He was an MP for

789
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:19.440
<v Speaker 6>some time. But the way he came about being an MP.

790
00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:21.880
<v Speaker 6>I explained that in the book as well. He basically

791
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:27.159
<v Speaker 6>bribed his way into becoming an MP, which which was

792
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:29.559
<v Speaker 6>basically against the law at the time. He broke the

793
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:32.559
<v Speaker 6>law to to become an MP. You know, he wouldn't.

794
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:34.840
<v Speaker 6>He's the kind of guy that, you know, if he

795
00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:41.079
<v Speaker 6>couldn't get what he wanted by conventional, you know, legitimate means,

796
00:53:41.159 --> 00:53:45.480
<v Speaker 6>he would he wouldn't be shy about, you know, doing

797
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:49.400
<v Speaker 6>what needed to be done to get he wanted.

798
00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:49.880
<v Speaker 4>You know.

799
00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:53.039
<v Speaker 6>So this is the kind of guy that you're dealing

800
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:57.800
<v Speaker 6>with here. So how advice. Yeah, I rite, there's there's

801
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:01.559
<v Speaker 6>a chapter in the book about him. But as I said,

802
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:06.199
<v Speaker 6>I've found a whole load more material about this, this

803
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:12.400
<v Speaker 6>fraud that I believe strongly he perpetrated in eighteen thirty

804
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:15.119
<v Speaker 6>seven with with his with a couple of his assistants

805
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:19.960
<v Speaker 6>and all. As I said, there's a considerable amount of

806
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:24.079
<v Speaker 6>evidence in Secret Chamber of Osiris. But my new book

807
00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:28.480
<v Speaker 6>Great Pyramid Hoax, which will be coming out next year,

808
00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:33.519
<v Speaker 6>has got a whole load more new evidence to put forward,

809
00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:38.599
<v Speaker 6>which essentially, to my mind, proves beyond a reasonable doubt

810
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:45.559
<v Speaker 6>that the markings that he claims were genuine are not

811
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:51.880
<v Speaker 6>genuine at all. And the thing that does Soriah basically

812
00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:56.000
<v Speaker 6>because it's the thing about these markings is it names

813
00:54:56.119 --> 00:54:59.199
<v Speaker 6>Kufu and Kunum kuf that's his full name as a

814
00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:04.840
<v Speaker 6>builder of the pyramid, or find those names in the pyramid.

815
00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:09.039
<v Speaker 6>So Egyptologists put tune two together. That means he built it. Well,

816
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:16.719
<v Speaker 6>it turns out that those marks are actually faith right. Basically,

817
00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:21.440
<v Speaker 6>the Great Pyramid becomes anonymous again, you know, at a

818
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:28.719
<v Speaker 6>stroke at pools and rug from under. The Egyptologists contention

819
00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:34.920
<v Speaker 6>that that those markings prove that Kufu built the pyramid.

820
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:38.039
<v Speaker 6>I'm not saying that Kufu didn't. All I'm saying is that, well,

821
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:41.519
<v Speaker 6>you can't rely in these marks because I think, I

822
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:44.800
<v Speaker 6>genuinely think, I think there's a lot of good evidence

823
00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:47.840
<v Speaker 6>now to say that those marks are not genuine.

824
00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:51.920
<v Speaker 4>Right, right, And the only other markings that were found

825
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:54.599
<v Speaker 4>anywhere in the pyramid were on at the end of

826
00:55:54.639 --> 00:55:57.280
<v Speaker 4>the shaft, there behind the door where they put the camera,

827
00:55:57.360 --> 00:55:59.480
<v Speaker 4>and they can see a few markings inside there.

828
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:04.079
<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, the great irony here is Sorayah. The

829
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:11.119
<v Speaker 6>great irony of those markings is that there's a agent

830
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:17.400
<v Speaker 6>Todd just who specializes in Egyptian mathematics, and he believes

831
00:56:18.440 --> 00:56:26.480
<v Speaker 6>those numbers we'd in that small cavity which the robot

832
00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:29.480
<v Speaker 6>drilled through at the end of the shaft. He believes

833
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:32.159
<v Speaker 6>those number those are numbers, and it's the number one

834
00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:37.039
<v Speaker 6>hundred and twenty one. The thing is, if you those cavities,

835
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:40.559
<v Speaker 6>that small cavity is at the very same level as

836
00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:44.320
<v Speaker 6>Campbell's chamber of the Great Pyramid. Now that's one of

837
00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:49.440
<v Speaker 6>the chambers that Colonel Weiss broke into and a partner

838
00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:53.760
<v Speaker 6>found all these markings Now the thing is in Campbell's chamber,

839
00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:56.440
<v Speaker 6>and it's at the same level, very same level of

840
00:56:56.480 --> 00:56:59.679
<v Speaker 6>the pyramid, which means because the pyramid was built in layers, yeah,

841
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:02.639
<v Speaker 6>block and block and block and block was built in theirs,

842
00:57:03.159 --> 00:57:06.480
<v Speaker 6>they're at the same layer. So you've got numbers in

843
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:09.599
<v Speaker 6>this small cavity at the same layer as numbers in

844
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:14.920
<v Speaker 6>Campbell's chamber. You've got the number in this small cavity

845
00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:19.199
<v Speaker 6>it says twenty one, and you've got number twenty one

846
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:23.519
<v Speaker 6>written in Campbell's chamber, and they're both in a completely

847
00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:24.679
<v Speaker 6>different language.

848
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:30.000
<v Speaker 4>Really, yeah, I didn't realize there was anything written in

849
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:30.840
<v Speaker 4>Campbell's chamber.

850
00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:36.039
<v Speaker 6>Well, yeah, that's where they found the cufu cartoush in

851
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:40.360
<v Speaker 6>Campbell's chamber, at the very top. But there's also other

852
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:45.039
<v Speaker 6>markings the very top. Yeah, that's the very top of

853
00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:51.079
<v Speaker 6>the above. The King's chamber is Campbell's chamber. So they

854
00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:54.400
<v Speaker 6>found on the wall there they found the number twenty one.

855
00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:56.920
<v Speaker 6>There's other numbers as well, but number twenty one is there,

856
00:57:57.320 --> 00:58:02.840
<v Speaker 6>but it's written in a completely different language from not language,

857
00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:08.519
<v Speaker 6>but completely different character set from what this guy believes

858
00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:12.320
<v Speaker 6>is the number twenty one in this chamber. That was

859
00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:14.960
<v Speaker 6>built at the same level. Now, if you're building something

860
00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:17.719
<v Speaker 6>like the Great Pyramid, you know you're not going to

861
00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:21.960
<v Speaker 6>use different numbers, a different number system. You're going to use,

862
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:27.639
<v Speaker 6>you know, a language you know that everybody can understand.

863
00:58:27.679 --> 00:58:29.840
<v Speaker 6>They're all agreeing. Yep. That's that. You're not going to

864
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:34.159
<v Speaker 6>have different character sets different you know, because somebody might

865
00:58:34.239 --> 00:58:35.719
<v Speaker 6>not know what that is and then they get it

866
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:37.760
<v Speaker 6>all wrong. You know, you're going to have a standard

867
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:42.159
<v Speaker 6>method of numbering things, and something is complex as a

868
00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:45.320
<v Speaker 6>Great Pyramid. So why are they using a completely different

869
00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:51.880
<v Speaker 6>character set to right twenty one there and which obviously

870
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:54.960
<v Speaker 6>is obviously genuine in this small chamber because the only

871
00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:58.360
<v Speaker 6>thing it's ever been in there is a camera, an

872
00:58:58.400 --> 00:59:05.079
<v Speaker 6>optical camera. Yeah, so they're genuine. The thing is, are

873
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:09.079
<v Speaker 6>these characters that say twenty one in Campbell's chamber, which

874
00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:14.400
<v Speaker 6>have advice opened genuine because that's where this cartouse has

875
00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:16.039
<v Speaker 6>been found as well.

876
00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:19.119
<v Speaker 4>But what are the chances they'd write twenty one in

877
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:21.360
<v Speaker 4>that chamber and then we'd find twenty one in another

878
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:22.239
<v Speaker 4>chamber as well?

879
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:26.280
<v Speaker 6>Well, in the other chamber, the small chamber where they

880
00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:29.599
<v Speaker 6>put the optical camera through. It's that's one hundred and

881
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:33.079
<v Speaker 6>twenty one. Oh okay, it's one hundred and twenty one,

882
00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:37.599
<v Speaker 6>So I was just keeping it simple for you. So

883
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:40.280
<v Speaker 6>they've written twenty one in one chamber, and there's other

884
00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:42.920
<v Speaker 6>numbers in there as well. In Campbell's chamber there are

885
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:47.320
<v Speaker 6>other numbers as well. There's ten, there's you know, there's

886
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:50.519
<v Speaker 6>other numbers, but there wrote twenty one, and in the

887
00:59:50.639 --> 00:59:53.400
<v Speaker 6>small chamber there wrote one hundred and twenty one, you know,

888
00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:55.400
<v Speaker 6>but in a completely different character.

889
00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:56.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

890
00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:00.760
<v Speaker 6>So, and these, you have to understand, are at the

891
01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:03.599
<v Speaker 6>same level. So they were built by you know, the

892
01:00:03.719 --> 01:00:07.840
<v Speaker 6>same builders, the same okay or whatever, you know, but

893
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:11.920
<v Speaker 6>they're using a completely different, you know, style of language

894
01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:17.039
<v Speaker 6>to write write these numbers. So that to me tells

895
01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:20.679
<v Speaker 6>me that, you know, these numbers in this small chamber

896
01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:24.840
<v Speaker 6>are obviously genuine from a much earlier age, much much

897
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:29.400
<v Speaker 6>earlier age. The characters that we found in Campbell's chamber

898
01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:34.039
<v Speaker 6>are definitely Fourth Dynasty. So how did he get those

899
01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:38.239
<v Speaker 6>Fourth Dynasty characters in Campbell's chamber? But you've got characters

900
01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:39.599
<v Speaker 6>from what's earlier time.

901
01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:42.880
<v Speaker 4>And which we should also mention for anyone who doesn't

902
01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:45.559
<v Speaker 4>know those relieving chambers as they're called above the King's

903
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:48.559
<v Speaker 4>peer above the King's Chamber were not open. They were

904
01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:51.800
<v Speaker 4>actually blasted with explosives. They get into them.

905
01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:56.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, vice use gunpowder to blast them openings into them.

906
01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:03.400
<v Speaker 6>And it was desperate to make an important discovery. He

907
01:01:03.519 --> 01:01:07.239
<v Speaker 6>says this throughout, you know, his his volumes, his published volumes.

908
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:09.800
<v Speaker 6>He was desperate to make an important discovery. He was

909
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:16.599
<v Speaker 6>desperate to find the sarcophagus of Cufu. But he never did.

910
01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:22.280
<v Speaker 6>And you know, he you know, he spent something that

911
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:24.480
<v Speaker 6>I think it's something to reagion of ten thousand pounds,

912
01:01:24.760 --> 01:01:27.159
<v Speaker 6>which in eighteen thirty seven, I think I think it

913
01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:30.360
<v Speaker 6>comes out to about a million pounds or half a

914
01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:34.400
<v Speaker 6>million pounds nowadays, an awful lot of his own family fortune.

915
01:01:35.159 --> 01:01:37.719
<v Speaker 6>I did nothing really to show for it at the

916
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:41.880
<v Speaker 6>end of the day. But well, ultimately he may not

917
01:01:42.039 --> 01:01:48.360
<v Speaker 6>have found Cufu, but he certainly found Cufu's name allegedly.

918
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:53.280
<v Speaker 4>Right right, we're almost out of time. But the one

919
01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:54.800
<v Speaker 4>thing I wanted to ask you about also is the

920
01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:58.800
<v Speaker 4>chefs and where they point to, because you have a

921
01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:01.960
<v Speaker 4>different take on it than some of the other Yeah, research.

922
01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:05.599
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't actually think the shafts

923
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:11.719
<v Speaker 6>point to anything that the Egyptologists tell us that the

924
01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:14.440
<v Speaker 6>shafts are to allow the point to a star, so

925
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:17.119
<v Speaker 6>that the king's soul can go up the shaft and

926
01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:20.840
<v Speaker 6>you know, go go off to wear whatever star. What

927
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:23.800
<v Speaker 6>I think the shafts are all about is the actually

928
01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:27.679
<v Speaker 6>so you know these structures, I'm saying, something happened. This

929
01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:30.199
<v Speaker 6>is a legend that's come down to us. Something happened

930
01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:32.360
<v Speaker 6>in the heavens, and this is why they built the

931
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:36.000
<v Speaker 6>pyramids the shafts, so is what happened in the heavens.

932
01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:41.679
<v Speaker 6>The lower shafts are both at thirty three The angle

933
01:02:41.760 --> 01:02:44.519
<v Speaker 6>of inclination is thirty three degrees. Those are the two

934
01:02:44.559 --> 01:02:47.320
<v Speaker 6>shafts that come out the lower chamber of the Queen's chamber,

935
01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:51.599
<v Speaker 6>both north and south are both thirty three degrees. The

936
01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:54.760
<v Speaker 6>southern chamber of the kings is at forty five degrees,

937
01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:57.719
<v Speaker 6>So that's a difference from the lower chamber. Sorry, they're

938
01:02:57.760 --> 01:03:00.199
<v Speaker 6>not thirty three degrees. Are both at thirty ninety these

939
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:04.480
<v Speaker 6>my apologies thirty nine degrees, and the upper shaft from

940
01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:06.920
<v Speaker 6>the King's chamber south is at forty five degrees. That's

941
01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:09.400
<v Speaker 6>a difference of six degrees. If we go over to

942
01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:13.639
<v Speaker 6>the northern side, the lower chambers at thirty to nine degrees,

943
01:03:13.679 --> 01:03:15.960
<v Speaker 6>but the upper chambers drop to thirty three degrees. That

944
01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:19.480
<v Speaker 6>again's a difference of six degrees. What these are actually

945
01:03:19.519 --> 01:03:24.960
<v Speaker 6>showing you is the sky moving. They're actually pointing to

946
01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:29.400
<v Speaker 6>the former position that the lower chambers pointed to the form. Remember,

947
01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:34.039
<v Speaker 6>the great pyramid symbolizes or represents the star in the

948
01:03:34.119 --> 01:03:38.199
<v Speaker 6>ryons belt Alnittack. The lower chamber points to the former

949
01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:45.079
<v Speaker 6>precis of Alnitttack before the skies were disturbed, and the

950
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:50.639
<v Speaker 6>upper shaft shows its new position after the pole shift.

951
01:03:51.480 --> 01:03:54.119
<v Speaker 4>And that might be why the lower chambers are sealed off,

952
01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:56.360
<v Speaker 4>because they're the previous location.

953
01:03:56.559 --> 01:03:59.599
<v Speaker 6>Yes, don't look here anymore. You know, you can't see it.

954
01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:03.840
<v Speaker 6>You know, it's basically data. If you're like the angles,

955
01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:07.679
<v Speaker 6>it's not so much that you know they're pointing at

956
01:04:07.719 --> 01:04:10.840
<v Speaker 6>a star per se. It's the angles of the shafts

957
01:04:10.880 --> 01:04:14.400
<v Speaker 6>that are actually the important piece of information, not what

958
01:04:14.519 --> 01:04:18.800
<v Speaker 6>they're pointing out. If we know it symbolizes al Nittack,

959
01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:22.199
<v Speaker 6>because the Great Pyramid, you know, symbolizes aln Attack, so

960
01:04:22.280 --> 01:04:25.440
<v Speaker 6>we know it's referencing aln attack. So it's saying Alnittack

961
01:04:25.880 --> 01:04:28.519
<v Speaker 6>was at this angle and then suddenly it was at

962
01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:32.639
<v Speaker 6>that angle or inclination. You know, that can't happen overnight,

963
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:35.960
<v Speaker 6>you know, simply can't happen overnight. No, for that to

964
01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:39.599
<v Speaker 6>happen using procession, I think it takes something like sixteen

965
01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:42.880
<v Speaker 6>hundred years for that kind of shift to happen. And

966
01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:45.239
<v Speaker 6>we know we're told the Great Pyramid was built in

967
01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:49.360
<v Speaker 6>twenty years, you know, so something happened to rapidly move

968
01:04:50.280 --> 01:04:53.239
<v Speaker 6>al Nittack, the star an attack from thirty nine degrees

969
01:04:53.599 --> 01:04:56.519
<v Speaker 6>up to forty five degrees and the Northern Star. The

970
01:04:56.639 --> 01:05:00.480
<v Speaker 6>northern shafts are basically just mirroring what is what's going

971
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:03.880
<v Speaker 6>on in the south. It's not acsalappointing at stars, per see,

972
01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:06.440
<v Speaker 6>it's just giving us the angles to show us how

973
01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:11.239
<v Speaker 6>this how the skies moved. Because again is what I've

974
01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:13.960
<v Speaker 6>kept saying tonight, that is what the legend tells. Is

975
01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:17.239
<v Speaker 6>the legend tells us the heavens the stars moved out

976
01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:19.960
<v Speaker 6>of their normal place, and that is what the shafts

977
01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:22.480
<v Speaker 6>are showing us right right.

978
01:05:22.599 --> 01:05:25.840
<v Speaker 4>And you also talk about some of the evidence that's

979
01:05:26.199 --> 01:05:28.079
<v Speaker 4>like the King's chamber had been repaired.

980
01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:39.679
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there's some there was some catastrophe or disaster inside

981
01:05:39.800 --> 01:05:45.960
<v Speaker 6>the King's chamber. You know, there's damage in there. The walls,

982
01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:49.519
<v Speaker 6>the granite walls of the King's chamber have been slightly

983
01:05:49.880 --> 01:05:56.679
<v Speaker 6>pushed outwards by some powerful force. There's apparently there's sports marks,

984
01:05:57.320 --> 01:06:02.039
<v Speaker 6>you know, on the sarcophagus in there. You know, the

985
01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:04.920
<v Speaker 6>ceiling is cracked. I think it's in the southeast corner.

986
01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:09.119
<v Speaker 6>There's ancient This wasn't done by Howard Vice by his

987
01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:14.159
<v Speaker 6>gunpowder blasting the chambers above the King's chamber. This is

988
01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:19.079
<v Speaker 6>ancient plaster that's been put into these cracks to repair it.

989
01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:23.480
<v Speaker 6>You know. So something happened in the King's chamber. There

990
01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:27.199
<v Speaker 6>was an almighty explosion of some kind in the King's chamber.

991
01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:31.480
<v Speaker 6>And explain that also in the book. And it ties

992
01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:35.199
<v Speaker 6>in with the black dust that was found by Howard

993
01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:40.320
<v Speaker 6>Vice and all these these five chambers above the King's chamber.

994
01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:40.440
<v Speaker 4>You know.

995
01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:44.440
<v Speaker 6>So that's that again, is I'll explained in the book.

996
01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:47.920
<v Speaker 4>You also mentioned that there was one pyramid where they

997
01:06:47.960 --> 01:06:50.480
<v Speaker 4>tried to put casing stones on later but they built

998
01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:52.519
<v Speaker 4>it on sand rather than solid ground.

999
01:06:52.960 --> 01:06:57.840
<v Speaker 6>Well, again this is this is you know Egypt, Todd is,

1000
01:06:58.360 --> 01:07:01.519
<v Speaker 6>We'll say it, Scott, your talking rubbish. We've got carbon

1001
01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:05.159
<v Speaker 6>dating dates that date the Great Pyramid to you know,

1002
01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:07.920
<v Speaker 6>I think it's two thousand, seven hundred. They've got some

1003
01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:11.079
<v Speaker 6>dates carben dates that are three one hundred. But you

1004
01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:14.280
<v Speaker 6>know they explain all this away with the old wood

1005
01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:15.599
<v Speaker 6>issue and all the rest of it.

1006
01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:16.039
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1007
01:07:16.519 --> 01:07:19.239
<v Speaker 6>So we've got these carbon dates of you know, carbon

1008
01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:23.039
<v Speaker 6>dating dates see fourteen radio carbon dates of you know,

1009
01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:26.599
<v Speaker 6>the period that we think, you know, Kufu lived and

1010
01:07:26.639 --> 01:07:29.400
<v Speaker 6>built a structure. But what I'm saying is, well, okay,

1011
01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:31.960
<v Speaker 6>maybe you've got these carbon dating dates. You know, they

1012
01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:36.039
<v Speaker 6>took carbon out the mortar between the blocks of the

1013
01:07:36.119 --> 01:07:39.079
<v Speaker 6>Great Pyramid. But what I'm saying is that, well, I

1014
01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:44.039
<v Speaker 6>actually think the original structure structure there may have been

1015
01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:49.039
<v Speaker 6>a step pyramid, like you know the step pyramid at

1016
01:07:49.079 --> 01:07:53.800
<v Speaker 6>Sakara and the step pyramid. It may do. The original

1017
01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:57.119
<v Speaker 6>structures were step pyramids, and it's a fourth dynasty that

1018
01:07:57.199 --> 01:08:00.320
<v Speaker 6>basically were repairing them and converting them into smooth did

1019
01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:05.239
<v Speaker 6>pyramids with you know, the white casing stone all the

1020
01:08:05.280 --> 01:08:06.880
<v Speaker 6>rest of it. Because if you look at the pyramid

1021
01:08:06.920 --> 01:08:09.880
<v Speaker 6>that may do. It's a step pyramid. It's core. The

1022
01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:12.400
<v Speaker 6>core of the pyramid that may do is like the

1023
01:08:12.559 --> 01:08:15.920
<v Speaker 6>very first pyramid of Zosa or the step pyramids of Sikara,

1024
01:08:16.359 --> 01:08:19.640
<v Speaker 6>the step pyramid that may do. The you know, the

1025
01:08:19.720 --> 01:08:23.960
<v Speaker 6>guy that Egyptologists say built at Nepho, who was Kufu's father,

1026
01:08:25.479 --> 01:08:31.199
<v Speaker 6>basically built he converted that step period. He originally built

1027
01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:34.880
<v Speaker 6>a step pyramid allegedly and then decided to convert it

1028
01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:38.439
<v Speaker 6>into a true pyramid. But I think therein lies the

1029
01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:41.600
<v Speaker 6>truth of the whole situation. What the ancient Egyptians of

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01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:45.000
<v Speaker 6>the fourth Dynas they were doing. They were converting older

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01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:49.479
<v Speaker 6>structures into true pyramids. Because the true pyramid, the outer

1032
01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:53.960
<v Speaker 6>casing stones that may do, simply collapsed because what neff

1033
01:08:54.079 --> 01:08:56.920
<v Speaker 6>what the original builders had done. They built that step

1034
01:08:57.039 --> 01:09:00.800
<v Speaker 6>pyramid because they were good engineers on a solid rock,

1035
01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:06.159
<v Speaker 6>solid rock foundation. S Nephrew came along and added on

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01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:08.920
<v Speaker 6>to to convert that step pyramid into a true pyramid

1037
01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:13.000
<v Speaker 6>by building on sand, you know, so here, Hey, that's

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01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:15.800
<v Speaker 6>why it collapsed. You know, that's why the are you know,

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01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:19.560
<v Speaker 6>true pyramid shape collapsed because he didn't know what he

1040
01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:24.319
<v Speaker 6>was doing. Basically, you know, so you have you really

1041
01:09:24.439 --> 01:09:27.800
<v Speaker 6>have two civilizations going on here, and it's all being

1042
01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:31.399
<v Speaker 6>confused and mixed up as if it's one, you know,

1043
01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:35.920
<v Speaker 6>one civilization. I think, you know, we need to extract,

1044
01:09:36.159 --> 01:09:39.279
<v Speaker 6>you know, we need to pull these things apart. You know,

1045
01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:43.119
<v Speaker 6>they've been merged and confused. We need to separate them out.

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01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:50.520
<v Speaker 6>You know, originally the project of Sirius nineteen thousand years ago,

1047
01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:56.039
<v Speaker 6>they built a step pyramid, you know. Thousands of years later,

1048
01:09:56.279 --> 01:09:59.640
<v Speaker 6>the people that discovered that, you know that came to

1049
01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:03.760
<v Speaker 6>Gyp much later, discovered these structures and were converting them

1050
01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:09.399
<v Speaker 6>into true pyramids, you know, for their burial or repurposing

1051
01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:14.039
<v Speaker 6>them forever. But they didn't have they didn't understand engineering.

1052
01:10:14.479 --> 01:10:17.800
<v Speaker 6>Like the people that actually built the step pyramid may

1053
01:10:18.079 --> 01:10:21.199
<v Speaker 6>who built it on a solid rock foundation, but Nephew

1054
01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:24.880
<v Speaker 6>built has has addition on sand and that's why it collapsed.

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01:10:25.720 --> 01:10:28.000
<v Speaker 4>Now, when when you talk about these things being arcs

1056
01:10:28.039 --> 01:10:31.560
<v Speaker 4>for seeds and stuff, how do you account for like

1057
01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:35.279
<v Speaker 4>some of the sonic effects in the pyramid, like the

1058
01:10:35.319 --> 01:10:40.079
<v Speaker 4>way sound is moved through the pyramid, and how people

1059
01:10:40.159 --> 01:10:42.640
<v Speaker 4>have like Graham Hancock even have talked about it as

1060
01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:46.279
<v Speaker 4>being a ritual or a consciousness altering device.

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01:10:47.079 --> 01:10:53.920
<v Speaker 6>Well, if anything of discussion here tonight, sorayah, you probably

1062
01:10:54.600 --> 01:11:01.079
<v Speaker 6>guessed that my work is very much of a practical nature.

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01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:05.640
<v Speaker 6>You know, these these were structures built for you know,

1064
01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:13.199
<v Speaker 6>a very you know, perfunctory, practical purpose. You know, if

1065
01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:17.760
<v Speaker 6>you build a pyramid and you use granite and use

1066
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:21.960
<v Speaker 6>different shapes of granite, and you strike that granite with

1067
01:11:22.640 --> 01:11:24.880
<v Speaker 6>a bar of some kind, yeah, you're going to get

1068
01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:30.039
<v Speaker 6>vibrations of all different kinds. Now, was that designed? I

1069
01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:35.680
<v Speaker 6>don't know. I can't answer that question. Maybe maybe there

1070
01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:41.640
<v Speaker 6>was some ancient ritual by the original builders, because remember

1071
01:11:41.920 --> 01:11:47.920
<v Speaker 6>I'm saying that these structures were built, you know, to

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01:11:48.039 --> 01:11:51.720
<v Speaker 6>ensure the kingdom could be reborn. There were ch tonic rituals,

1073
01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:57.039
<v Speaker 6>there were earth rituals, you know. So maybe these original builders,

1074
01:11:57.159 --> 01:12:00.720
<v Speaker 6>you know, maybe they wanted them. They understood vibrations of

1075
01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:03.720
<v Speaker 6>some kind that I don't know, maybe had an effect

1076
01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:09.239
<v Speaker 6>on seeds in stone boxes. You know, who knows. I

1077
01:12:09.319 --> 01:12:13.640
<v Speaker 6>don't know. That's pure speculation in my part. But you know,

1078
01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:19.880
<v Speaker 6>we don't know why, you know, the fashion the granite

1079
01:12:19.960 --> 01:12:24.119
<v Speaker 6>blocks above the King's chamber in certain ways, we just

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01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:26.039
<v Speaker 6>really don't know why they did it, and you know

1081
01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:31.319
<v Speaker 6>that when you strike them they do create different vibrational effects.

1082
01:12:31.880 --> 01:12:34.960
<v Speaker 6>Is that just you know, because that's what they do,

1083
01:12:35.119 --> 01:12:37.279
<v Speaker 6>and that's what they are or where they designed to

1084
01:12:37.399 --> 01:12:40.880
<v Speaker 6>do that. You know, it's anyone's guests really, But what

1085
01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:46.039
<v Speaker 6>I'm saying is, you know, these were about rebirth of

1086
01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:50.359
<v Speaker 6>the kingdom, not original king and it's a toothnic. It's

1087
01:12:50.399 --> 01:12:52.920
<v Speaker 6>about the rebirth of the earth. So I think, yeah,

1088
01:12:52.960 --> 01:12:56.840
<v Speaker 6>there were probably some earth rituals, you know, That's why

1089
01:12:56.920 --> 01:13:00.800
<v Speaker 6>they placed a box in these pyramids filled with earth

1090
01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:05.119
<v Speaker 6>and sealed it. You know, there's some deep earth you know,

1091
01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:09.039
<v Speaker 6>mystery or ritual going on there.

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01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:13.880
<v Speaker 4>Okay. And also I meant to mention this earlier too,

1093
01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:16.640
<v Speaker 4>but when you mentioned the Sixteen Pyramids as being part

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01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:19.800
<v Speaker 4>of Osirish, she mentioned that there were seventy two co conspirators.

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01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:24.119
<v Speaker 4>Was set and that's of course a processional number as well,

1096
01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:26.239
<v Speaker 4>which you find just throughout everything.

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01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:32.239
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, absolutely, because I think the whole thing about you know,

1098
01:13:32.439 --> 01:13:36.000
<v Speaker 6>the whole of Ciris myth is about you know, creating

1099
01:13:36.119 --> 01:13:39.800
<v Speaker 6>the body of a Ciris the Sixteen Pyramids, but also

1100
01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:45.199
<v Speaker 6>at Giza that created a processional clock at Giza, and

1101
01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:49.000
<v Speaker 6>I explained that again to that great depth in the book,

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01:13:50.079 --> 01:13:54.680
<v Speaker 6>you know. So you know that again, I think is

1103
01:13:55.000 --> 01:14:00.439
<v Speaker 6>another key a clue as to you know, the the

1104
01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:06.239
<v Speaker 6>whole processional clock star clock that we have at Geza.

1105
01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:10.520
<v Speaker 6>Remember as well Asirus, the legend of Asirius came to

1106
01:14:10.720 --> 01:14:15.439
<v Speaker 6>be before Asirius. According to the legend of Asiris, the

1107
01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:20.600
<v Speaker 6>Earth only had three hundred and sixty days. After Asirius

1108
01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:23.520
<v Speaker 6>it had three hundred and Asirius was born, the Earth

1109
01:14:23.600 --> 01:14:26.720
<v Speaker 6>had three hundred and sixty five days, So the Earth

1110
01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:30.960
<v Speaker 6>gained five days. You know, we multiply five by seventy two.

1111
01:14:31.159 --> 01:14:33.079
<v Speaker 6>You know, you're getting three hundred and sixty, you know,

1112
01:14:33.159 --> 01:14:35.920
<v Speaker 6>and then again you're getting all these processional numbers again.

1113
01:14:36.159 --> 01:14:39.279
<v Speaker 6>You know, Asirius was born on the first day of

1114
01:14:39.479 --> 01:14:42.640
<v Speaker 6>the extra five days, and his brothers and sisters were

1115
01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:43.920
<v Speaker 6>born and the other days.

1116
01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:44.159
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1117
01:14:44.359 --> 01:14:48.039
<v Speaker 6>So again this is all linked into the Did the

1118
01:14:48.119 --> 01:14:51.680
<v Speaker 6>Earth originally have a solar you know, an annual cycle

1119
01:14:51.680 --> 01:14:54.479
<v Speaker 6>of three hundred and sixty days? Then something happened to

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01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:57.520
<v Speaker 6>the Earth to disturb its axis to you know, to

1121
01:14:57.760 --> 01:15:01.439
<v Speaker 6>slow its rotation that's orbit the sun. Did something happen,

1122
01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:05.359
<v Speaker 6>you know, so to me it's all tied in together.

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01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:12.000
<v Speaker 6>The whole a Siris Smith is about catastrophe, a catastrophe occurring,

1124
01:15:12.520 --> 01:15:18.720
<v Speaker 6>but preparing, you know, to to preparing the kingdom to

1125
01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:22.159
<v Speaker 6>survive this catastrophe. And this is what the whole Sirish

1126
01:15:22.159 --> 01:15:25.399
<v Speaker 6>Smith about. Being cut into sixteen parts and scattered across

1127
01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:29.119
<v Speaker 6>and being reborn again, you know, via the pyramid, via

1128
01:15:29.199 --> 01:15:32.000
<v Speaker 6>the agency of a cyrus. That's what the whole myth

1129
01:15:32.199 --> 01:15:35.000
<v Speaker 6>is about. But it's about you're right, it's about procession

1130
01:15:35.359 --> 01:15:38.840
<v Speaker 6>as well, because it did create a star clock, and

1131
01:15:39.520 --> 01:15:42.159
<v Speaker 6>it's almost like a plan within a plan, if you like.

1132
01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:48.479
<v Speaker 6>They created a star clock using procession to date when

1133
01:15:48.560 --> 01:15:52.119
<v Speaker 6>this event took place, a bit like our own civilization,

1134
01:15:52.600 --> 01:15:55.279
<v Speaker 6>Soriah has I don't know if you're aware of this.

1135
01:15:55.399 --> 01:15:59.319
<v Speaker 6>The Hoover Dam. Yeah, when they built that, they basically

1136
01:15:59.359 --> 01:16:01.520
<v Speaker 6>looked at the star are straight above the Hoover Dam

1137
01:16:01.920 --> 01:16:05.119
<v Speaker 6>and then mark the mark those stars on the floor

1138
01:16:05.279 --> 01:16:09.000
<v Speaker 6>of the entrancery at the forecourt of the entrance way

1139
01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:12.760
<v Speaker 6>at the Hoover Dam, you know, so that that configuration

1140
01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:16.239
<v Speaker 6>of stars straight above you know, the Hoover Dam at

1141
01:16:16.279 --> 01:16:20.239
<v Speaker 6>the time it was built basically locks in time. When

1142
01:16:20.319 --> 01:16:24.560
<v Speaker 6>that dam was built. Well, then gypsums are the builders

1143
01:16:24.680 --> 01:16:29.359
<v Speaker 6>of this, this system, this processional star clock at geezer

1144
01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:32.640
<v Speaker 6>effectively done the same thing, are similar thing?

1145
01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:36.560
<v Speaker 4>All right? Well, I highly recommend the book The Secret

1146
01:16:36.600 --> 01:16:39.680
<v Speaker 4>Chamber of Osiris, Lost Knowledge of the Sixteen Pyramids. It's

1147
01:16:39.760 --> 01:16:42.680
<v Speaker 4>only scratched the surface in this this conversation about the

1148
01:16:42.720 --> 01:16:44.159
<v Speaker 4>amount of data you have in here.

1149
01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:46.279
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there's a lot in that, but a lot of

1150
01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:49.199
<v Speaker 6>a lot of different ideas, a lot of sort of

1151
01:16:49.800 --> 01:16:50.640
<v Speaker 6>new insights.

1152
01:16:51.960 --> 01:16:53.279
<v Speaker 4>And what's your website?

1153
01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:58.640
<v Speaker 6>Your listeners could go to www dot scott Criton dot

1154
01:16:58.760 --> 01:16:59.600
<v Speaker 6>co dot uk.

1155
01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:03.119
<v Speaker 4>All right, and I thank you so much for spending

1156
01:17:03.159 --> 01:17:05.279
<v Speaker 4>time with us and for this work. It's fantastic. And

1157
01:17:05.359 --> 01:17:07.680
<v Speaker 4>you said the next book will be out in twenty sixteen.

1158
01:17:07.920 --> 01:17:11.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, probably towards the end of twenty sixteen. That's a

1159
01:17:12.119 --> 01:17:15.960
<v Speaker 6>great pyramid hoax. So that'll be some time next year.

1160
01:17:16.840 --> 01:17:18.680
<v Speaker 4>All right, Well, looking forward to it, and thank you

1161
01:17:18.840 --> 01:17:19.199
<v Speaker 4>so much.

1162
01:17:19.920 --> 01:17:23.039
<v Speaker 6>Sayah, it has been a pleasure. Thank you for inviting

1163
01:17:23.079 --> 01:17:26.840
<v Speaker 6>me onto your show. I've really enjoyed myself. Thank you coming.

1164
01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:29.039
<v Speaker 1>Do you read me?

1165
01:17:29.840 --> 01:17:33.960
<v Speaker 7>Do you understand the numbers plying over your connection to

1166
01:17:34.359 --> 01:17:54.520
<v Speaker 7>confections seeking met you on the changes men.

1167
01:17:50.880 --> 01:18:02.479
<v Speaker 8>Thoughts, timehind outside time. Can you hear the call and

1168
01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:08.159
<v Speaker 8>you're climbing the worrying off the ball? Till you hear

1169
01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:12.479
<v Speaker 8>the thought lard let her is the warring of the world.

1170
01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:15.119
<v Speaker 7>Let the work to the hill.

1171
01:18:16.199 --> 01:18:21.680
<v Speaker 8>Let's gloring off the wall ring of the Come in,

1172
01:18:22.159 --> 01:18:25.520
<v Speaker 8>Come in, We hear you loud and clear, be getting

1173
01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:27.359
<v Speaker 8>a conversion of the signal.

1174
01:18:27.680 --> 01:18:32.359
<v Speaker 6>Here you front thirty count twenty seas unentertaining.

1175
01:18:33.560 --> 01:18:35.720
<v Speaker 8>Just say when this came?

1176
01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:39.720
<v Speaker 4>This for an ant n.

1177
01:18:41.960 --> 01:18:50.880
<v Speaker 8>I signed to the bars. Can you hear the ballt

1178
01:18:51.199 --> 01:18:53.600
<v Speaker 8>planning is theirring of the world.

1179
01:18:55.560 --> 01:18:56.960
<v Speaker 7>Till you hear the boat?

1180
01:18:57.319 --> 01:19:02.760
<v Speaker 8>Land plea is the warring of lortic Lo. Can you

1181
01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:07.439
<v Speaker 8>hear the ball? Light plays the waring of the woold?

1182
01:19:09.319 --> 01:19:14.600
<v Speaker 7>The great and Visible Empire is mashet.

1183
01:19:16.119 --> 01:19:22.279
<v Speaker 8>Pleass time. Don't stay it for statued magic.

1184
01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:25.640
<v Speaker 7>No, it's timing to be aware. You are getting to

1185
01:19:25.800 --> 01:19:29.359
<v Speaker 7>the heart of the own of those rare consentatry hitch.

1186
01:19:29.680 --> 01:19:32.359
<v Speaker 7>There's number fifteen hundred, ninety seventh and.

1187
01:19:32.479 --> 01:19:36.199
<v Speaker 6>Kilting I'm counting.

1188
01:19:36.720 --> 01:19:41.560
<v Speaker 8>Can you hear the lage is the worrying of the wall.

1189
01:19:43.560 --> 01:19:45.520
<v Speaker 8>Can you hear the light?

1190
01:19:46.199 --> 01:19:48.560
<v Speaker 6>Time is the worry of the world.

1191
01:19:57.319 --> 01:19:59.319
<v Speaker 7>Can you hear the ball light?

1192
01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:02.159
<v Speaker 5>He is the worrying of the world.

1193
01:20:04.119 --> 01:20:09.079
<v Speaker 8>Can you hear the ball lays place nooring of the world,

1194
01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:10.960
<v Speaker 8>in off the world
