WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.040 What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:07.040 Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're gonna get started with 3 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:12.279 the Sarah Kellen testimony that she gave before Congress back 4 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:17.399 in May. And like usual, there's a whole accounting of 5 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:20.839 who's at the interview. We're gonna skip that. We're gonna 6 00:00:20.879 --> 00:00:26.359 start right away with the questions. Miss Brygnac is doing 7 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:29.920 the questioning and Sarah Kellen is doing the answering. When 8 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:34.000 I say question, it's Miss Brignac, and when I say answer, 9 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:37.520 that's Sarah Kellen Vickers. And if somebody else jumps in, 10 00:00:37.960 --> 00:00:43.039 I'll notate that. So let's dive in, Miss Brynac. We're 11 00:00:43.119 --> 00:00:45.719 ready to go on the record. This is a transcribed 12 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:49.119 interview of Miss Sarah Kellen conducted by the House Oversight 13 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:52.679 Committee and Government Reform under the authority granted to it 14 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:56.359 pursuant the House Rule X. According to House Rule X, 15 00:00:56.560 --> 00:01:00.759 grants the Committee broad jurisdiction for the committed to conduct 16 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:04.760 investigations of any matter at any time. This interview was 17 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:07.680 requested by the Chairman, James Colmer as part of the 18 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:12.719 committee's investigation into the circumstances and subsequent investigation into the 19 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:16.959 crimes of Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell, the operation of 20 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:20.200 sex trafficking rings and ways for the federal government to 21 00:01:20.280 --> 00:01:23.799 effectively combat them, the ways in which mister Epstein and 22 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:27.480 miss Maxwell sought to curry favor an exercise influence to 23 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:31.480 protect their legal activities, and potential violations of ethics rules 24 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:35.640 related to elected officials. Can the witness please state her 25 00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:41.599 name for the record, Sarah Kellen, Miss Brignac, thank you. 26 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:44.799 I want to thank Miss Kellen for appearing here voluntarily today. 27 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:48.079 My name is Britney Brignac, and I'm senior counsel for 28 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:51.959 Chairman James Calmer. Under the Committee on Oversight and Government 29 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:55.120 Reforms rules, you're allowed to have council present to advise 30 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:58.120 you during the interview. Do you have council present with 31 00:01:58.159 --> 00:02:02.120 you today in a personal capacity? Kelln yes, Brignac. Will 32 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:06.439 counsel please identify themselves for the record, and to this, 33 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:12.039 Sarah Kellen's lawyer, Miss Hamm speaks up. Kimberly ham Morrison Forrester, 34 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:18.240 another lawyer for Kathleen Cassidy, Morvillo Abramowitz, another lawyer for 35 00:02:18.759 --> 00:02:25.800 mister Uriarty, Carlos Uriarty Morrison Forrester, Miss Brignac for the record. 36 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:29.280 Starting with the Chairman, Can the majority members introduce themselves, 37 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:34.400 then ranking member, then minority members James Comer, Clay Higgins, 38 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:40.599 Andy Biggs starting with the majority staff, Krish No Morthy, 39 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:44.879 James Walkinshaw. Starting with the majority staff, Can the additional 40 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:48.879 staff members please introduce themselves with their name, title and affiliation. 41 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:53.199 Ellison Tolin, who is the council for Chairman James Comer, 42 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:57.840 Jack Emmer, Chief Counsel for Investigations for Chairman Comer, Mister 43 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:03.319 harneics Will Harneys, Professational staff Member for Chairman Comber. Hannah Cathay, 44 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:07.960 Professional staff member for Chairman Comber. Billy Grant, Deputy Chief 45 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:13.599 Council for Investigations for Chairman Comber. Mister Ashworth, Daniel Ashworth, 46 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:17.599 General Council for Chairman James Comer, Peter Spector, Director of 47 00:03:17.639 --> 00:03:23.039 Oversight for Chairman Comber, Jessica Collins, Communications Director for Chairman Comber, 48 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:28.120 Mallory Koeger, Director of Operations in Chief Clerk Chairman Comber, 49 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:34.479 Miss Vineyard Ashley Vineyard, Deputy Staff Director Chairman Comber. Emily 50 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:39.439 fire Bend Council for Chairman Comber redacted and the next 51 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:41.520 viewer are adapted. So we're just going to pass that 52 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:45.759 on to Miss Brignac asking the questions, Miss Kellen. Before 53 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:47.879 we begin, I'd like to go over the ground rules 54 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:51.039 for the interview. The questioning will proceed in rounds. The 55 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:53.759 majority will ask questions for up to an hour, and 56 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:57.000 then the minority will have opportunity to ask questions from 57 00:03:57.039 --> 00:03:59.360 up to an hour if they choose to the extent. 58 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:02.919 Members have questions for the witness, they'll be propounded during 59 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:06.039 their sides respective rounds. The clock will stop if you 60 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:08.960 need to confer with counsel, your council is speaking, and 61 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:12.520 when members or staff are speaking during the opposing sides 62 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:15.800 rounds a question, we will alternate back and forth and 63 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:21.040 until there are no more questions. Do you understand Kellen? Yes, Brignac. 64 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:23.879 There is a court reporter taking down everything I say 65 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:25.920 and everything you say to make a written record for 66 00:04:25.959 --> 00:04:29.160 the interview. For the record to be clear, please wait 67 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:32.560 until the staff are questioning you finishes each question before 68 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:35.759 you begin to answer, and the staffer will wait until 69 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:40.399 you finish your response before proceeding to the next question. Further, 70 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:43.319 to ensure the court reporter can properly record this interview. 71 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:48.120 Please speak clearly, concisely, and slowly. Also, the court reporter 72 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:52.560 cannot record nonverbal answers, such as nodding or shaking your head, 73 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:55.160 so it's important that you answer each question with an 74 00:04:55.199 --> 00:05:00.360 audible verbal answer. Minority exhibits will be identified alphabetically. Do 75 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:04.959 you understand, Kelln Yes, Brignac. We want you to answer 76 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:08.360 our questions in the most complete and truthful manner possible, 77 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:11.240 so will take our time. If you have any questions 78 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:14.000 or do not fully understand the question, please let us know. 79 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:17.920 We will attempt to clarify, add context to, or rephrase 80 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:22.399 the questions. If we ask about specific conversations or events 81 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:24.839 in the past, and you're unable to recall the exact 82 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:27.879 words or details, you should testify to the substance of 83 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:30.959 those conversations or events to the best of your recollection. 84 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:34.399 If you recall only part of the conversation or event, 85 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:37.800 you should give us your best recollection of those events 86 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:40.800 or parts of a conversation that you do recall. Do 87 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:45.959 you understand, Miss Kellen, Yes, Brignac. Although you're here voluntarily, 88 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:49.199 you're acquired by law pursuing the Title eighteen of the 89 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:52.959 US Code Section one thousand and one to answer questions 90 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:57.120 from Congress truthfully. This also applies to questions posed by 91 00:05:57.160 --> 00:06:02.240 Congressional staff in the interview. Do you understand Kellen, Yes, Brignac. 92 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:05.079 If any time you knowingly make false statements, you could 93 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:10.240 be subject to criminal prosecution. Do you understand Kellen, Yes, Brignac. 94 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:15.120 This includes knowingly providing false testimony, but also stating that 95 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:17.680 you do not recall or remember something when you in 96 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:22.439 fact do. Do you understand Kellen, yes, Brignac. Furthermore, you 97 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:26.240 cannot tell half truths or exclude information necessary to make 98 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:30.240 statements accurate. You're required to provide all information that would 99 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:34.120 make your response truthful. A deliberate failure to disclose information 100 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:39.399 can constitute a false statement. Do you understand miss Kellen, Yes, Brignac. 101 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:42.160 Is there any reason you're not able to provide truthful 102 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:46.959 testimony in today's interview? Kellen No, Brignac. Please note that 103 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:50.160 if you wish to assert a privilege over any statement today, 104 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:53.120 that assertion must comply with the rules of the Committee 105 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:57.160 on Oversight and Government Reform pursu into that Committee. Rule 106 00:06:57.240 --> 00:07:00.079 sixteen See one states for the chair to consider her 107 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:04.560 assertions of privilege over testimony. Your statements, witnesses her entities 108 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:08.319 must clearly state the specific privilege being asserted and the 109 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:11.519 reason for the assertion on or before the scheduled data 110 00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:17.519 testimony or appearance. Do you understand, Kellen? Yes, Now, her 111 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:20.120 lawyer jumps in, Can I just very quickly, just so 112 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:23.560 the record's clear. We've previously shared with the committee staff. 113 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:27.160 There are certain topics. This is a voluntary interview that 114 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:31.120 she's prepared to discuss today. She'll talk about her own questions, 115 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:34.759 pertinent questions regarding her own victimization, but not questions about 116 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:39.040 other persons victimization. The reason for this include her own 117 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:43.240 mental trauma, her ability to withstand sustain questioning on these points, 118 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:48.199 legislative purpose and pertency, concerns about the private rights of individuals, 119 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:52.120 including my client, and the protection of her constitutional rights. 120 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:54.480 And I know that we've discussed it with the Majority 121 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:56.920 and Minority staff, but I just wanted to make sure 122 00:07:57.160 --> 00:08:00.759 that everyone in the room understood our condition. Mister Ashworth 123 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:04.199 for the record, thank you. As previously stated, the Committee 124 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:07.199 will ask all questions it deems relevant to the committee's 125 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:10.720 investigation and hopes the witness will answer those questions. As 126 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:15.519 she sees fit. Thank you, miss Brignac. Ordinarily, we take 127 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:17.319 a five minute break at the end of each hour 128 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:19.959 of questioning, but if you need a longer break or 129 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:22.399 a break before that, please let us know and we 130 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:26.240 will happily accommodate it. However, to the extent that there's 131 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:28.879 a pending question on the record, we would ask that 132 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:31.560 you finish answering the question before we take a break. 133 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:35.559 Do you understand Kellen, yes, Brignac, you have any questions 134 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:40.080 before we begin? Kellen, No, I don't have any questions. Brignac. Great, 135 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:43.080 and I believe we had another member join us. Can 136 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:48.559 you please identify yourself for the record, William Timmins, South Carolina. Brignac, 137 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:51.120 thank you. I understand that you have an opening statement 138 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:54.480 that you want to read for the record. Kelln, yeah, Brignac, 139 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:58.440 you can do so now. Kellen, thank you, Chairman, ranking member, 140 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:01.159 and members of the Committee. My name is Sarah Kellen. 141 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:04.960 I worked for and was sexually and psychologically abused by 142 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:08.120 Jeffrey Epstein for over a decade. It's important for the 143 00:09:08.120 --> 00:09:11.440 committee to understand before I begin that the woman sitting 144 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:13.919 in front of you today is not the woman I 145 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:16.960 was supposed to become. The years that have shaped my 146 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:20.320 adult life were not my own. During those years, I 147 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:24.039 was trapped inside Jeffrey Epstein's world. He grew me sexually 148 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:28.759 and psychologically abused me, controlled me, manipulated me, dominated me, 149 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:31.879 and gas lit me until I could no longer tell 150 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:35.240 which thoughts were mine and which were his. It was 151 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:38.120 like living with a permanent virtual reality had set on. 152 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:42.639 I was reminded every day how powerful he was, how 153 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:45.840 influential he was, and that to turn on him or 154 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:49.120 disobey him would mean losing everything, my job, my home, 155 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:53.480 everyone I knew in the world, even my life. Understanding 156 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:57.000 who I was before meeting Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell 157 00:09:57.279 --> 00:09:59.840 will help explain why I was the perfect target for them. 158 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:04.000 I was raised in a religious cult of Jehovah's witnesses 159 00:10:04.159 --> 00:10:06.840 in a small community of North Carolina, in a faith 160 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:10.879 where women did not speak unless spoken to. We were 161 00:10:10.879 --> 00:10:13.799 not allowed to question men. In fact, we were required 162 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:17.279 to submit to and obey men. We were discouraged from 163 00:10:17.320 --> 00:10:20.840 thinking for ourselves. At the age of thirteen, an eighteen 164 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:23.720 year old man began pursuing me. At the time, I 165 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:26.519 was flattered. I thought I was falling in love with him. 166 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:29.480 Only now do I understand what was happening. I was 167 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:33.240 being groomed and molested and then raped. I dropped out 168 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:35.399 of high school at the age of fifteen to prepare 169 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:37.480 to marry this man, which I did at the age 170 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:40.559 of seventeen. To me, I had no other choice. It 171 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:42.919 was the only way to reconcile the fact we were 172 00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:46.039 having sex outside of wedlock a grave sin in the 173 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:49.919 eyes of Jehovah God. At the time, I thought it 174 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:53.200 was love. Only much later did I come to understand 175 00:10:53.480 --> 00:10:56.480 what had happened to me was wrong. My husband took 176 00:10:56.519 --> 00:10:59.000 me to Hawaii, thousands of miles away from my family 177 00:10:59.039 --> 00:11:01.759 and friends. Three years later, he served me with divorce 178 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:05.360 papers at an airport. I signed them without a lawyer 179 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:07.559 because I did not know I was allowed to have one. 180 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:13.240 He then this fellowshiped me from the Jehovah witnesses, excommunicated, 181 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:16.559 without anyone ever having questioned me. I still don't know 182 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:20.000 to this day why I was this fellowshiped. From that 183 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:23.480 day forward, everyone who is Jehovah's witness is no longer 184 00:11:23.480 --> 00:11:26.600 allowed to speak to or associate with me, including my 185 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:30.159 entire family, my parents, my siblings and all my friends. 186 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:33.039 From one day to the next, I was completely alone 187 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:35.960 in the outside world, with no tools to navigate this 188 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:39.000 world outside of the religious cult in which I had 189 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:42.120 been raised. I was twenty one years old, far from 190 00:11:42.159 --> 00:11:44.440 where I grew up, stuck on an island in the 191 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:48.120 middle of nowhere. No college degree, no family, no friends, 192 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:52.480 no money, nowhere to live. The only person who offered 193 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:55.480 me shelter was a photographer twenty years my senior, who 194 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:59.200 demanded nude photographs and delhi sex from me in exchange 195 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:01.480 for a roof over mine head. When I couldn't afford 196 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:05.080 to pay rent, I had no other choice to survive. 197 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:09.440 I began to disassociate during these encounters, a coping mechanism 198 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:13.000 that will stay with me for many years. During this 199 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:16.759 time period, I went to Neiman Marcus makeup counter in Honolulu. 200 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:19.799 The makeup artist introduced me to a famous New Yorker 201 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:23.200 hairdresser who was there promoting his new hair care line. 202 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:25.759 He said he wanted me to model in a hair 203 00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:28.320 show for him in Maui. When I flew to Maui, 204 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:30.720 he had me staying in his hotel room. There was 205 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:33.919 no hair show. He sexually assaulted me that night. He 206 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:36.279 then said he wanted to introduce me to his friend 207 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:40.639 Jeffrey Epstein, who he said was his scout for Victoria's Secret. 208 00:12:40.919 --> 00:12:43.759 Jeffrey flew me to La for a casting in his 209 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:46.519 shutters on the Beach hotel room. Although he did not 210 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:49.279 sexually assault me that day, he made me think he 211 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:52.000 was a model scout and told me to undress for him, 212 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:54.919 which I did. Months later, while working at a hotel, 213 00:12:55.159 --> 00:12:57.840 a young woman I work with became friends with me 214 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:01.840 and knew I was desperately trying to leave Hawaii. She 215 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:03.759 said that she knew a couple in New York looking 216 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:06.279 for an assistant and asked if I would be interested 217 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:11.200 in the job. The couple was Jeffrey Epstein and Glene Maxwell. Unfortunately, 218 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:15.600 I got the job. The first time Jeffrey Epstein assaulted me, 219 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:18.519 I was on Little Saint James's private island. This was 220 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:22.559 not a vacation destination, it was isolation. He told me 221 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:24.159 he was taking me on a tour of the island. 222 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:26.679 He drove me on a four wheeler to his bedroom. 223 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:29.879 He locked the door behind us. He approached me and 224 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:33.000 lifted up my shirt. To this day, I can't remember 225 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:35.639 exactly what happened in the minutes that followed. My mind 226 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:38.519 shut down. I have since learned in therapy that this 227 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:43.759 is called disassociation. It became how I survived. There were 228 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:46.799 many events during my time working with Jeffrey and Golaine 229 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:49.639 that my mind shut down and doesn't allow me to 230 00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:53.039 remember the traumatic details. I was then flown to Palm 231 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:56.399 Beach in Jeffrey Epstein's private seven twenty seven, then to 232 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:01.240 New York City. I was surrounded by unimaginable luge, private jets, 233 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:05.120 designer clothing, lavish homes, the largest townhouse in Manhattan. I 234 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:08.480 was told. After a week of traveling with them, I 235 00:14:08.519 --> 00:14:11.039 was sent back home to Hawaii. About a month later, 236 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:13.200 Glane called me and told me to come to Palm 237 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:16.679 Beach right away and start working. They bought me a 238 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:19.720 flight for the next day, and I immediately started training, 239 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:22.559 traveling and working for them twenty four to seven with 240 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:25.360 no pay. I was too afraid to even ask how 241 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:28.639 much I would earn, terrified of jeopardizing my only chance 242 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:33.440 at survival and stability. I have read articles online labeling 243 00:14:34.080 --> 00:14:37.559 me as Glenn Maxwell's lieutenant. That is a gross misrepresentation. 244 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:41.519 I was a literal indentured slave. In fact, she even 245 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:44.600 referred to me as her slave and her minion. I 246 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:47.919 had zero power or authority. I was there only to 247 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:51.399 serve and submit. Only after Jeffrey confirmed that I would 248 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:54.120 submit to his sexual abuse did he begin paying me. 249 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:57.879 After months of unpaid labor, he instructed me to draw 250 00:14:57.960 --> 00:15:00.080 m a bath on the island, then ordered me to 251 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:02.360 undress and get in with him, and he said the 252 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:05.120 job is yours now, you just have to keep it. 253 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:08.480 He then pulled me onto his bed and made clear 254 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:11.440 that keeping the job required only after submitting to his 255 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:15.159 sexual abuse did the paychecks begin. Twenty five thousand a 256 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:17.919 year for working non stop on call twenty four to 257 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:21.039 seven months at a time when no days off. I 258 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:23.919 understood the math exactly. I was being paid, in part 259 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:27.559 to be raped. I was on call to him every 260 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:30.720 hour of the day. I won't catalog every assault because 261 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:32.480 it would take too much time, but I want this 262 00:15:32.519 --> 00:15:35.360 committee to know that the abuse happened on average on 263 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:39.120 a weekly basis, and at times was violent. It included 264 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:41.320 Jeffrey entering my room in the middle of the night 265 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:44.480 and putting his fingers inside me, waking me up from sleep. 266 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:47.399 It included the occasion in Palm Beach when he trapped 267 00:15:47.440 --> 00:15:50.440 me in the gym by lowering the metal hurricane shutters, 268 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:53.159 blasted the music so loud so no one could hear, 269 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:57.320 choked me, and violently rape me. The abuse continued while 270 00:15:57.360 --> 00:16:01.480 Jeffrey was supposedly serving his Florida Jellson. He even skyped 271 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:04.159 me from a computer inside the Palm Beach County Stockade 272 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:07.480 and ordered me to undress forum on camera. As a 273 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:10.919 result of the years of abuse, constant sleep deprivation and 274 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:15.039 course of control inflicted by Jeffrey and Glane, psychological conditions 275 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:19.399 hampered my ability to identify my own emotions, differentiate reality 276 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:23.960 from Jeffrey's manipulated reality, and crippled me for making decisions 277 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:27.559 or asserting agency when it mattered most Today, I continue 278 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:32.679 to suffer from major depressive disorder, panic disorder, generalized anxiety disorder, 279 00:16:32.960 --> 00:16:37.639 and complex PTSD, specifically as a result of Jeffrey Epstein's 280 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:41.519 sexual assaults and psychological abuse. I know some of you 281 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:44.480 are probably wondering why I didn't leave. I had nowhere 282 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:47.960 else to go. I had no money, no family, no education, 283 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:52.840 and no sense that I deserved any better. This is 284 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:55.279 why It's so important for people to be educated on 285 00:16:55.320 --> 00:16:59.279 how grooming processes work and how trauma bonds form. I 286 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:02.039 have only just begun to understand this myself over the 287 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:05.200 past few years of therapy. I can provide more information 288 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:07.519 how I was groomed, but I will not speak for 289 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:11.519 others and how they were groomed. Jeffrey made certain I 290 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:14.319 knew that defying him would cost me my life. He 291 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:17.319 knew everyone in the highest echelons of society, and everyone 292 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:22.400 catered to him. He knew everyone in the fashion industry, academics, finance, government, 293 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:27.359 powerful world leaders, dictators, and everyone in between. From the beginning, 294 00:17:28.359 --> 00:17:30.720 he showed me that he was more powerful than basically 295 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:33.440 anyone in the world. I sat in a room in 296 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:35.960 Cuba with him and Fidel Castro. I was taken to 297 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:39.279 Asia and Africa with President Bill Clinton, including a lunch 298 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:42.000 at the home of the Sultan a Brunei. I was 299 00:17:42.039 --> 00:17:46.400 at Princess Beatrice's eighteenth birthday party at Windsor Castle and 300 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:49.440 at the desert home of Sheik Muhammad in Dubai. I 301 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:53.680 sat across the table from Adhud Barakh in Israel. Jeffrey 302 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:56.440 was able to fool and manipulate the brightest minds in 303 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:00.240 the world. US victims didn't stand a chance. I was 304 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:02.839 a high school dropout from North Carolina. I was a 305 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:06.000 silent body in a chair besides men who started and 306 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:10.039 ended wars. I understood completely that if Jeffrey could walk 307 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:12.599 into those rooms, he could walk into any room in 308 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:15.400 the entire world. He could find me anywhere on Earth. 309 00:18:16.039 --> 00:18:19.480 He could also control any law enforcement agency. That proof 310 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:23.039 came in two thousand and seven. Two FBI agents tried 311 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:26.039 to approach me and another young woman in Saint Thomas Airport. 312 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:28.960 Jeffrey told us to stay where we were, walked over 313 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:32.440 and spoke to the agents himself, came back ten minutes later, 314 00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:36.519 said let's go, and the agents were gone. Later that 315 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:39.480 same year, the United States government placed me into Jeffrey 316 00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:43.519 Epstein's federal non prosecution agreement as a name co conspirator. 317 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:46.319 I was not told this was happening. I was not 318 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:49.000 asked about it. No one from law enforcement ever spoke 319 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:52.079 with me, heard my side of the story, ever asked 320 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:54.400 me a single question. I did not even know my 321 00:18:54.519 --> 00:18:56.880 name was in that agreement until after it had been 322 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:00.039 signed and released to the public. The federal government of 323 00:18:59.920 --> 00:19:02.519 the United States branded me a criminal and a secret 324 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:06.200 deal with my own abuser without ever once speaking to me. 325 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:09.640 From the day Jeffrey Epstein found me until July of 326 00:19:09.640 --> 00:19:13.480 twenty nineteen, no one from the federal government, or any 327 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:17.119 government for that matter, ever contacted me about anything, not once. 328 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:20.359 I've spent every year since trying to live underneath that 329 00:19:20.359 --> 00:19:24.599 piece of paper. I finally extricated myself from Jeffrey Epstein's 330 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:27.480 grasp in twenty thirteen when I became engaged to a 331 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:29.720 man who gave me, for the first time of my life, 332 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:33.400 a piece of footing outside of someone else's control. I 333 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:37.079 was finally able to leave. The abuse finally stopped, but 334 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:39.960 leaving was not the same as escaping. I am almost 335 00:19:40.039 --> 00:19:42.920 forty seven years old. My entire life since the age 336 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:45.960 of twenty two has been dominated by Jeffrey Epstein's abuse 337 00:19:46.200 --> 00:19:49.799 and manipulation and the aftermath of it. I am here 338 00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:54.000 today to answer your questions, to dispel rumors and conspiracies, 339 00:19:54.359 --> 00:19:57.119 and to tell you the truth. I hope and pray 340 00:19:57.240 --> 00:19:59.759 that I am the only sexual abuse survivor that has 341 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:02.920 come before you in this manner. Nobody else who has 342 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:05.079 been through the hell that Jeffrey Epstein put us through. 343 00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:08.000 Should ever have to endure the pain of recounting it 344 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:11.319 again publicly, all of us lose more of our lives, 345 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:15.799 our health, our privacy, and mental well being each day 346 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:19.119 Jeffrey Epstein remains a topic of discussion. I hope this 347 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:21.680 brings us one step closer to closure for all of 348 00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:25.319 us survivors. Thank you for listening. All right, folks, we're 349 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:27.599 gonna wrap up right here and in the next episode 350 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:30.400 discussing the topic, We're gonna pick up where we left off. 351 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:33.119 All the information that goes with this episode can be 352 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:36.599 found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome 353 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:40.519 to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, 354 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:42.480 we're gonna pick up where we left off with the 355 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:51.920 Sarah Helen transcript from her trip to Congress. Miss Brignac. 356 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:54.680 The time reads ten thirty am, and the majority of 357 00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:58.039 time will begin now, and we've had another member join us. 358 00:20:58.119 --> 00:21:03.480 Can you please introduce themselves Representative Sujas Submaranium for Virginia's 359 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:09.440 tenth district, Mister Conna Rocana for California's seventeenth. Miss Brignac. 360 00:21:09.519 --> 00:21:14.759 Thank you. Examination by Miss Brignac. Question. The Committee understands 361 00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:18.000 that your testimony today can be challenging, and we appreciate 362 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:20.920 you speaking with us. The Committee today will be referring 363 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:23.480 to you as Sarah Kellen, but we would like to 364 00:21:23.559 --> 00:21:26.920 note for the record, the Committee understands you have also 365 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:32.319 had the surname Kensington and Vickers. Is that correct? Kellen? Correct? Question? 366 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:35.960 Thank you. Let's start by discussing your background. You mentioned 367 00:21:35.960 --> 00:21:38.200 that you were raised in North Carolina. Is that where 368 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:41.599 you were born? Answer? I was born in Fort Worth, Texas, 369 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:44.400 and my family moved to North Carolina when I was 370 00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:48.720 about two. Question what year were you born? Answer nineteen 371 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:51.960 seventy nine. Question what's the highest level of education that 372 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:55.839 you received? Answer? High school diploma through a homeschooling program. 373 00:21:56.559 --> 00:22:01.119 Question did you receive any additional coursework or higher education? Answer? 374 00:22:01.519 --> 00:22:04.039 I took a few r classes at a community college 375 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:07.640 in Hawaii. Question we will go into more detail later, 376 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:12.000 but for now, can you briefly describe your professional career? Answer? 377 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:14.720 I currently don't work. I was a very devoted wife 378 00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:17.759 for eleven years and didn't work since during that period. 379 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:20.920 Question can you walk me through the years that your 380 00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:24.200 professional career would have taken place and any careers that 381 00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:30.160 you've possessed miss Ham. Do you want to start in Hawaii? Brignac, Yes, Brignac, 382 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:36.400 let's start to Hawaii. Question Yeah, just briefly walk me 383 00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:39.359 through your professional career. Answer. I mean my first job 384 00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:41.960 as a hostess. I worked at like a little gift 385 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:44.519 store in North Carolina. In Hawaii, I worked at a 386 00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:47.319 food truck. I worked at a bikini store. I worked 387 00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:50.400 at Banana Republic as a hostess at the w Hotel 388 00:22:50.599 --> 00:22:53.599 in Honolulu, and then I was a personal assistant for 389 00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:59.160 Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell. Question any other positions you've 390 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:02.000 held at other companies? Answer? I worked at a mortgage 391 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:04.319 company in Hawaii for a little bit. I think that's it. 392 00:23:05.160 --> 00:23:08.599 Question the Committee has reviewed the documents. Also that you 393 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:12.400 may have worked at a design company. Answer I started 394 00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:15.680 an interior design company. Question and what year was that 395 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:19.720 design company established? Answer? I don't remember exactly, it was 396 00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:24.039 during my time working for Jeffrey. Question and what was 397 00:23:24.079 --> 00:23:28.680 the design company called? Answer SLK Designs. Question and is 398 00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:32.519 the company still an operation? Answer? No? Question When did 399 00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:36.359 the company dissolve? Answer? I believe in twenty fifteen? Question 400 00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:40.279 why did it dissolve? Answer Darren Endyke asked me if 401 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:42.559