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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Pathway Chili. I'm Robin, I'm Jules.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Ashley. Let's dive right into this week's case.

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<v Speaker 3>April third, two thousand and four, Laucine, Kansas, While attending

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<v Speaker 3>a party at a farmhouse, twenty three year old Alonso

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<v Speaker 3>Brooks vanishes without a trace, and his body is discovered

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<v Speaker 3>on the banks of a nearby creek. Nearly one month later, well,

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<v Speaker 3>a forensic pathologist is unable to determine Alonzo's exact cause

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<v Speaker 3>of death, rumors start circulating that he was a victim

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<v Speaker 3>of a hate crime before his body was placed at

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<v Speaker 3>that location. In twenty twenty one, after Alonzo's body is

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<v Speaker 3>exhumed and given a new autopsy, it is announced that

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<v Speaker 3>his death has officially been reclassified as a homicide, but

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<v Speaker 3>there are still no conclusive answers about how he was killed.

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<v Speaker 1>After that, the path went Chile. So this week we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be exploring a case which was featured on

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<v Speaker 1>the Netflix reboot of Unsolved Mysteries, the two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>four Unexplained Death of Alonzo Brooks, or I guess we

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<v Speaker 1>can now officially call it the Murder of Alonzo Brooks.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the story of the young man who went

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<v Speaker 1>missing after attending a party at a farmhouse in rural Kansas,

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<v Speaker 1>before his body was discovered on the banks of a

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<v Speaker 1>nearby creek nearly one month later. While Alonzo's exact cause

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<v Speaker 1>of death cannot be determined, there was no direct evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of foul play, but since Alonzo was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>only persons of color attending this party in a predominantly

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<v Speaker 1>white area, the authorities did explore the possibility that he

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<v Speaker 1>was the victim of a hate crime. There was also

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<v Speaker 1>some controversy over the fact that the area where Alonzo's

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<v Speaker 1>body was found had been extensively searched during the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven day period he was missing, leading to speculation that

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<v Speaker 1>someone planted his body there at a later time. It's

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<v Speaker 1>now been over five years since the Unsolved Mysteries Netflix

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<v Speaker 1>reboot was launched, and a number of their episodes have

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<v Speaker 1>featured cases where a victim's death was officially ruled to

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<v Speaker 1>be a suicide or an accident, but their loved ones

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<v Speaker 1>were certain that they had been murdered and were seeking justice.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the biggest criticisms the reboot has received is

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<v Speaker 1>that it has often been accused of twisting its narratives

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<v Speaker 1>and leaving out key details about these stories which do

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<v Speaker 1>point towards the death being suicide or an accident after all. However,

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<v Speaker 1>the Alonzo Brooks case may be the exception to this,

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<v Speaker 1>because shortly after the Unsolved Mysteries episode aired, his body

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<v Speaker 1>was exhumed for a new autopsy and new evidence was uncovered,

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<v Speaker 1>which led the authorities to officially reclaimed sify his death

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<v Speaker 1>as a homicide. Of course, this took place just over

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<v Speaker 1>four years ago, and there have not been any new

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<v Speaker 1>developments in the investigation since then, but at the very least,

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<v Speaker 1>we now know that there is an actual crime to

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<v Speaker 1>solve and a perpetrator or perpetrators to bring to justice.

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<v Speaker 1>The details of how Alonso was killed and how his

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<v Speaker 1>body wound up on the banks of that creek are

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<v Speaker 1>still unclear, so we're going to have a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>analyze on this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>This is so interesting, especially when you talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that there was a twenty seven day period that

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<v Speaker 2>he was missing and then his body finally shows up

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<v Speaker 2>in a place where it was extensively already searched, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was still ruled a suicide or an unknown death originally.

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<v Speaker 1>Just an accidental death like they thought then he might

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<v Speaker 1>have been intoxicated and passed out, so they did not

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<v Speaker 1>initially suspect foul play, but in recent years they have

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<v Speaker 1>officially reclassified it as a homicide.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's really interesting because if they had extensively searched

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<v Speaker 2>that and this body shows up twenty seven days later,

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<v Speaker 2>and you say, well, I bet he was intoxicated and

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<v Speaker 2>stumbled off and passed away, there would be so many

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<v Speaker 2>question marks of how did he get there and was

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<v Speaker 2>he intoxicated For twenty seven days, I'm assuming people didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really raise suspicion about that search not resulting in a body,

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<v Speaker 2>and then twenty seven days later it just happened to

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<v Speaker 2>turn up. But that seems like an incredible red flag

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<v Speaker 2>to me. That says he didn't just stumble away that night,

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<v Speaker 2>or he would have been easily located.

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<v Speaker 1>As we're going to talk about, this area was extensively searched,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seems like a weird coincidence that when Alonzo's

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<v Speaker 1>family decided to perform their own independent search of the property,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when the body magically turns up, which questions wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really there the whole time?

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<v Speaker 3>This one really stuck with me when I saw it

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<v Speaker 3>on Unsolved Mysteries, and I think, Ashley, it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>stick with you if you haven't already seen it, just

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<v Speaker 3>because of so many bizarre elements and the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>Alonzo was a black man, and how a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the people that he was dealing with that evening were white,

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<v Speaker 3>and so there's a race element that kind of underscores

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<v Speaker 3>this entire case.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, I know you've watched the Unsold Mysteries reboot. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you recall watching this episode?

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<v Speaker 2>I vaguely remember, I think seen an episode. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to say he was wearing a flannel shirt walking up

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<v Speaker 2>to the house party or something like that, But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't remember this case in the specifics. I really don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember a body not being discovered for twenty seven days.

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<v Speaker 2>That alone would raise hairs on the back of my neck.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to say I might have watched it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I surely don't recall the specifics.

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<v Speaker 3>Our story begins in Kansas in two thousand and four,

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<v Speaker 3>and our central figure is twenty three year old Alonzo Brooks.

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<v Speaker 3>Alonzo was born in Tapika to an African American father,

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<v Speaker 3>Billy Brooks Sor and Mexican mother, Maria Ramirez. He was

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<v Speaker 3>the youngest of their five children and described as being

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<v Speaker 3>a quote surprise baby since he was born many years

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<v Speaker 3>after his brother and three sisters. At some point, Billy

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<v Speaker 3>Senior and Maria got divorced and she got remarried and

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<v Speaker 3>moved to the town of Gardner, while Alonzo remained into

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<v Speaker 3>Peka and worked with his father until he was in

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<v Speaker 3>his early twenties. He ultimately decided to relocate to Gardner

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<v Speaker 3>and move in with his mother and got a job

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<v Speaker 3>as a custodian for a stepfather's janitorial company. Alonzo was

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<v Speaker 3>always described as a home body who loved spending time

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<v Speaker 3>with his family. While he was a bit shy, he

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<v Speaker 3>was also known for being a very nice person who

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<v Speaker 3>got along with everyone and never caused any trouble. On

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<v Speaker 3>the evening of April third, Alonzo and his circle of

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<v Speaker 3>friends made plans to attend a party, as one of

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<v Speaker 3>them was leaving to join the military and they wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to celebrate his departure. The party would take place at

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<v Speaker 3>a rural farmhouse on Highway K one fifty two just

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<v Speaker 3>outside Lacene, a small town located in Lynn County with

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<v Speaker 3>a population of around one thousand, one hundred people. Lucene

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<v Speaker 3>is forty seven miles south of Gardner, so the group

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<v Speaker 3>of friends would travel to party in separate vehicles, and

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<v Speaker 3>since Alonzo did not drive, he hitched a ride with

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<v Speaker 3>a friend named Justin Sprague. Before he left, Alonzo told

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<v Speaker 3>his mother that he would return home later that night,

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<v Speaker 3>but this would turn out to be the last time

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<v Speaker 3>she ever saw him alive. When Alonzo and his friends

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<v Speaker 3>arrived at the farmhouse for the party, they apparently thought

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<v Speaker 3>it would only be a small gathering, but throughout the

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<v Speaker 3>course of the evening, it's believed that upwards of one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred people showed up and trickled in and out of there.

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<v Speaker 3>The attendees appeared to be between the ages of sixteen

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<v Speaker 3>and twenty five, and while Alonzo and his friends recognized

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<v Speaker 3>a few of them from Gardner, they did not know

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<v Speaker 3>most of the people. Regardless, everyone described Alonzo as being

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<v Speaker 3>more outgoing than usual at the party, as he drank

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of alcohol and appeared to be having a

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<v Speaker 3>great time. However, one of Alonzo's friends, Daniel Boone, would

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<v Speaker 3>later describe an incident in which he noticed that Alonzo

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<v Speaker 3>had gotten into an argument with enough partygoer until Daniel

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<v Speaker 3>managed to intervene and pull Alonzo away before the confrontation

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<v Speaker 3>could get physical.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we know a couple things are going on here.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of people that they do not know

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<v Speaker 2>at this party. Like you said, it's also Alonzo stands out.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the only black man who's there and there's one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred people in this very white farm ruled town. So

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<v Speaker 2>are there people at that party who are not welcoming

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<v Speaker 2>of Alonzo? There's a high possibility of that. Is there

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<v Speaker 2>also the idea that this person who he gets into

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<v Speaker 2>a fuss with wants to get revenge or wants to

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<v Speaker 2>retaliate against him. What do we know about Justin and Daniel.

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<v Speaker 2>They're the two buddies who are mentioned just a second ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Justin drove him and Daniel is the one helping intervene

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<v Speaker 2>in this fight. Did either of them get concerned at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the night when they couldn't find Alonzo.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't drive, so they had to know that he

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't get home without them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm going to start talking about that momentarily. But Daniel,

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<v Speaker 1>Justin and another friend of theirs named Tyler would be

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed on the Unsolved Mystery segment, and they provide more details,

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<v Speaker 1>and it sounds like there was just kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>horrible miscommunication that happened where they assumed that Alonzo was

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<v Speaker 1>going to get a ride with somebody else, but it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't happen, and then at one point he just seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to vanish without a trace. And that's the big mystery

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<v Speaker 1>is what ultimately happened to him and why did he

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<v Speaker 1>not turn up until twenty seven days later. So, like

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<v Speaker 1>I just said, when the case was featured on Unsolved Mysteries,

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Foon and another friend of Alonzo's named Tyler Bogard

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<v Speaker 1>agreed to be interviewed. They both discussed leaving the party

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<v Speaker 1>at different points throughout the night and saying goodbye to Alonzo,

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<v Speaker 1>but said there appeared to be nothing out of the

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<v Speaker 1>ordinary when they last saw him. Alonzo was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>get a ride home with Justin Sprague, but when the

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<v Speaker 1>two friends both ran out of cigarettes, Justin offered to

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a lot of dispute about what happened next,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll discuss this in more detail later on in

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<v Speaker 1>the episode, but for now, here's the version of events

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<v Speaker 1>that Justin shared during his interview on Unsolved Mysteries. According

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<v Speaker 1>to Justin, after he drove away from the farmhouse, he

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<v Speaker 1>took a wrong turn on some gravel roads and got

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<v Speaker 1>lost until he wound up getting his car stock about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes away from Lacine. Since Justin did not want

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the trouble of finding his way back

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<v Speaker 1>to the farmhouse, he used his cell phone to call

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<v Speaker 1>another friend of his at the party named Adam. Justin

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<v Speaker 1>wanted Adam to tell Alonzo that he had got lost,

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<v Speaker 1>and Justin said that he could even hear Alonzo joking

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<v Speaker 1>about it in the background. Justin said that Adam promised

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<v Speaker 1>him he would give Alonzo a ride home, but for

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<v Speaker 1>reasons that are still not entirely clear, this never took place.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like Alonzo and Adam lost track of each

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<v Speaker 1>other or there may have been a miscommunication of some sort,

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<v Speaker 1>but Adam wound up leaving without him. Media outlets at

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<v Speaker 1>the time reported that a fight took place at the party,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes between two and three am on the morning of

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<v Speaker 1>April the fourth, though it could not be confirmed if

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<v Speaker 1>Alonzo was involved. In it. They reported that the last

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<v Speaker 1>time a lot was seen with some time between three

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<v Speaker 1>and four am, But what actually happened to him would

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<v Speaker 1>become a major unsaw mystery.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know if that fight that they described was

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<v Speaker 2>the same one that Daniel Fune would say had happened

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<v Speaker 2>with Alonzo that he had to break up.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so, because this took place a couple

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<v Speaker 1>hours after Daniel already left, when apparently none of Alonso's

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<v Speaker 1>one still there, but it's unclear if he was nearby

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, okay, And we know that Justin wasn't even at

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<v Speaker 2>the party, so he's excluded from this. Adam is the

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<v Speaker 2>one who says he would take Alonzo home. But we've

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<v Speaker 2>all been at a party where friend says like, now, man,

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<v Speaker 2>leave me, I'm going to hang out some more. No, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I got another guy who will take me home, and

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<v Speaker 2>you leave right against your better judgment. But we're assuming

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<v Speaker 2>all the friends have nothing to do with this since

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<v Speaker 2>they participated. I'm sure they were cleared by police as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know we're going to talk about it later

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<v Speaker 1>on that some details about Justin's story would have changed,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does sound like he has a pretty solid

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<v Speaker 1>alibi which shows that he was nowhere near the house

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<v Speaker 1>when Alonzo disappeared. And even though these friends have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of criticism on social media and read it

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<v Speaker 1>for leaving Alonzo behind, I do not believe they were

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<v Speaker 1>covering anything up more involved than his death. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think they genuinely have no idea what happened to him.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think sometimes when stories change, we have to

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<v Speaker 3>question why. And it's not always because they're hiding some

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<v Speaker 3>kind of guilty knowledge. I think it's sometimes, in maybe

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<v Speaker 3>the case of Justin here that he received criticism or

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<v Speaker 3>people had come up with points like places in his

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<v Speaker 3>story where they're trying to poke holes, and so he's

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<v Speaker 3>trying to assuage any objections and edit his story ever

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<v Speaker 3>so slightly, and that could come off as being deceptive

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<v Speaker 3>when he's just trying to appear a certain way when

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<v Speaker 3>be guilty or he could have something to do with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think that's what happened, because as we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about, he was probably driving drunk that

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<v Speaker 1>night and doing stuff he wasn't supposed to, so I

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<v Speaker 1>can see him being motivated to change his story a

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<v Speaker 1>bit to pain himself in the best possible light, But

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean that he was complicit in Alonzo's death.

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<v Speaker 3>So later that morning, one of Alonzo's friends called his

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<v Speaker 3>residence and spoke to his mother. Maria had assumed that

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<v Speaker 3>Alonzo returned home in the middle of the night, but

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<v Speaker 3>when she checked his room, she discovered that Alonzo was

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<v Speaker 3>not there and his bed had clearly not been slept in.

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<v Speaker 3>Alonzo's friend suggested that he might have spent the night

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<v Speaker 3>at someone else's house, but Maria immediately became concerned, since

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<v Speaker 3>he was out of character for him to do this

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<v Speaker 3>without contacting her. When Maria called Alonzo's other friends, she

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<v Speaker 3>could not find anyone who could confirm having given him

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<v Speaker 3>a ride from the party, and no one seemed to

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<v Speaker 3>know where he was. This prompted Justin and some of

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<v Speaker 3>Alonzo's other friends to drive back to Lacine. They were

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<v Speaker 3>also joined by Rodney English, a childhood friend of Alonzo's

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<v Speaker 3>from Topeka who had not attended the party who was

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<v Speaker 3>concerned about his absence. They proceeded to perform a search

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<v Speaker 3>of the area surrounding the farmhouse, but could not find

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<v Speaker 3>any trace of Alonzo. A long driveway separated the house

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<v Speaker 3>from the highway, and while looking around there, Rodney came

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<v Speaker 3>across Alonzo's hat and one of his boots in the

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<v Speaker 3>ditch across the road. It wasn't long before Rodney found

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<v Speaker 3>Alonzo's other boot in a ditch on the opposite side

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<v Speaker 3>of the road, several feet away. Since these items were

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<v Speaker 3>lying out in the open, it did not appear that

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<v Speaker 3>anyone had made an attempt to conceal them, and Rodney

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<v Speaker 3>suspected that they were thrown from a moving vehicle. While

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<v Speaker 3>Rodney and the rust of Alonzo's friends attempted to continue

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<v Speaker 3>their search, a man driving an ATV suddenly showed up

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<v Speaker 3>and told them to leave the property. While this was

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<v Speaker 3>going on, Maria attempted to contact the police and file

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<v Speaker 3>a missing person's report for Alonzo, but was told that

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<v Speaker 3>she would have to wait at least forty eight hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh goodness, that is so frustrating. I totally understand why

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<v Speaker 2>they say that, but it's incredibly upsetting when you think

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<v Speaker 2>about the circumstances here and Maria saying, my son told

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<v Speaker 2>me he was going to be home. He never didn't

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<v Speaker 2>show up. His friends said that he was coming home,

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<v Speaker 2>and he never showed up. And then you find the

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<v Speaker 2>boots scattered in these different places in his hat. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>could someone be intoxicated and be silly and be in

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<v Speaker 2>the back of someone's truck or something and just throw

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<v Speaker 2>their shoes off. Maybe, But when you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that these boots are dispersed these two different areas

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<v Speaker 2>and his hat's missing, I wonder if that sent off

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<v Speaker 2>alarm belts automatically. My first default would not be some

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<v Speaker 2>intoxicated kid just got rid of these things. Where's he

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<v Speaker 2>going to walk without his boots? How's he going to

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<v Speaker 2>get anywhere without his shoes on? Because if you're in

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<v Speaker 2>rural farmland, you're sure not wanting to walk without shoes

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<v Speaker 2>for miles or to get somewhere. I would have immediately said,

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<v Speaker 2>this doesn't seem right. They're in different.

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<v Speaker 1>Location, yeah, exactly, because I could see someone becoming drunk

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<v Speaker 1>enough to toss off their boots just as a lark.

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<v Speaker 1>But obviously they're not going to go very far without

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<v Speaker 1>them walking. So it makes you think either he left

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<v Speaker 1>in a vehicle with someone else. But if that's the

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<v Speaker 1>case where is he because he doesn't really know anyone

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<v Speaker 1>from the area, and none of his friends gave him

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<v Speaker 1>a ride home, so that's why they were immediately concerned

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<v Speaker 1>that it was probably someone else who tossed them from

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<v Speaker 1>a moving vehicle to dispose of evidence. On April the fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>Alonzo's brother Billy Brooks Junior and sister in law Cindy

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<v Speaker 1>decided to travel to the farmhouse in Lacene. They learned

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<v Speaker 1>that the house was a rental and the tenants were

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<v Speaker 1>four men in their twenties who were not from the area,

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<v Speaker 1>but the place was empty when Billy and Cindy arrived.

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<v Speaker 1>The identities of these four men have never been released publicly,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's been reported that they were evicted from the

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<v Speaker 1>house a short time after Alonzo went missing. Billy and

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<v Speaker 1>Cindy tried searching through Lacene and the surrounding area for Alonzo,

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<v Speaker 1>but cannot find him. No notice that they seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>draw suspicious looks from the local residents. They finally decided

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<v Speaker 1>to travel to nearby Mound City in order to pay

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<v Speaker 1>a visit to the Lynn County Sheriff's office. Billy and

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<v Speaker 1>Cindy both spoke with Sheriff Marvin Stites, who did not

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<v Speaker 1>seem overly concerned about Alonzo's disappearance and said that he

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<v Speaker 1>was probably just quote unquote out walking around. Well. Needless

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<v Speaker 1>to say, Billy and Cindy did not believe this, since

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<v Speaker 1>both of Alonzo's boots were found lying in separate ditches,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had recently suffered an ankle injury while playing basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>which made it difficult for him to walk long distances.

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<v Speaker 1>In spite of this, the sheriff's office did eventually agree

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<v Speaker 1>to open a missing person's investigation for Alonso, and on

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<v Speaker 1>April the seventh, they turned the case over to the

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you look here and you have this idea

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<v Speaker 2>that he had recently suffered this ankle injury. So in

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<v Speaker 2>addition to you're in a place you don't know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>in a rural area. This isn't like, oh, we have

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<v Speaker 2>these nice sidewalks, you know, and these really lovely places

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<v Speaker 2>to walk. No, he is miles away from where he's

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be, he doesn't know anybody there, and he

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<v Speaker 2>has an injury, and you're telling me that this is

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<v Speaker 2>just some drunk kiddo that stumbles away and gets lost

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<v Speaker 2>and passes away because of it. Immediately it says, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not what happened. I don't like the idea that race

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<v Speaker 2>could play a role here. You have people who are

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<v Speaker 2>ignorant and drinking and doing things that you know puts

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<v Speaker 2>you in a heightened level. He's already getting into fusses

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<v Speaker 2>with people at this party that he does not know.

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<v Speaker 2>And again with drug with you know, alcohol and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>drugs being present. What does that do and how does

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<v Speaker 2>that amp up people to feel pretty empowered to do

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<v Speaker 2>whatever they want, especially when Alonzo's friends leave him and

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<v Speaker 2>he's isolated and alone.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing is Alonso is a stranger. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not from the area, so the majority of people at

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<v Speaker 1>that party wouldn't have known him before and may have

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<v Speaker 1>just had an issue with the fact that a black

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<v Speaker 1>man showed up there. And if he doesn't have his

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<v Speaker 1>friends around to protect him, I'm sure the thinking that

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<v Speaker 1>he could have gotten himself into some trouble if he

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<v Speaker 3>And correct me if I'm wrong, Robin, And maybe we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk about this later. But wasn't it in

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<v Speaker 3>the original? Not the original? It's the reboot of Unsolved Mysteries.

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<v Speaker 3>But when they talked about the boots, wasn't a big

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<v Speaker 3>deal made about the fact that the boots were found

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<v Speaker 3>because I think his mom or somebody else had said

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<v Speaker 3>something along the lines of these are the only footwear

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<v Speaker 3>that he wears. He even plays basketball in these boots.

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<v Speaker 1>They might have. I don't recall that specific thing, but

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<v Speaker 1>apparently they were very distinct. So they're thinking to themselves

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<v Speaker 1>that if he's just leaving these laying around in a

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<v Speaker 1>rural area, that's just not something that he would do.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why the instantly thought that something bad might

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<v Speaker 1>happen to him.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, rumors started circulating throughout the area that Alonzo's disappearance

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<v Speaker 3>might have been race related, as Lucine was a predominantly

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<v Speaker 3>white area and Alonzo was only one of three persons

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<v Speaker 3>of color who had attended the party that night. Some

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<v Speaker 3>witnesses would claim that after Alonzo's friends left the party,

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<v Speaker 3>a number of racial slurs and threats started getting tossed around.

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<v Speaker 3>Alonzo was supposedly seen flirting with a white girl, which

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<v Speaker 3>may have escalated some tensions, and one witness would claim

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<v Speaker 3>they overheard someone say that Alonzo quote won't get out

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<v Speaker 3>of here alive. Even though Alonzo was known for being

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<v Speaker 3>an easygoing guy, his friends believed that he was capable

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<v Speaker 3>of getting mad and starting a fight if someone used

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<v Speaker 3>a racial slur in his presence. For this reason, the

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<v Speaker 3>KBI brought in the FBI to assist them with their

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<v Speaker 3>investigation and look into the possibility that Alonzo may have

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<v Speaker 3>been the victim of a hate crime. They conducted hundreds

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<v Speaker 3>of interviews with witnesses who attended the party and extensively

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<v Speaker 3>questioned Alonzo's friends who went there with him that night.

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<v Speaker 2>So for me, when you talk about the friends, like

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<v Speaker 2>you said they had left, at that point, there was

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<v Speaker 2>confirmation that these friends had been in communication with one

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<v Speaker 2>another that they had left. I was originally suspicious when

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<v Speaker 2>Justin says he turned the wrong way, got lost and stuck.

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<v Speaker 2>But then when you said that he called back and

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<v Speaker 2>asked for people to help organize Alonzo getting home, and

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<v Speaker 2>he could even hear Alonzo being silly in the background.

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<v Speaker 2>It really relieved a lot of worry I had about

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<v Speaker 2>Justin being involved. And immediately all of the friends side

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<v Speaker 2>with Maria and they say we need to go back

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<v Speaker 2>and help you look for him. So there's no attempt

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<v Speaker 2>to separate themselves from Alonso, there's no attempt to deny

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<v Speaker 2>what happened. There, seeming to be pretty forthcoming and wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to be a part of helping find him as well.

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<v Speaker 1>The issue with a lot of the information we just

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<v Speaker 1>the only people who agreed to be interviewed on Unsolved

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<v Speaker 1>Mysteries were Alonzo's friends, who left before a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these alleged incidents took place. But I yet to see

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<v Speaker 1>any interviews where someone has gone on the record and

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<v Speaker 1>said that, yeah, I saw someone use a racial slur

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<v Speaker 1>with Alonzo, or I saw Alonzo flirting with a white girl.

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<v Speaker 1>So even though we're hearing a lot of this information thirdhand,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not entirely sure if it's true or if it's verified,

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<v Speaker 1>and if these incidents actually happened. So that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most frustrating elements of this case is that we

419
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<v Speaker 1>really don't have too many first hand accounts of what

420
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<v Speaker 1>happened to Alonzo after his friends left the party.

421
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<v Speaker 2>And because there is racial tension, or there is a

422
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<v Speaker 2>potential or illusion that there could have been racial tension,

423
00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:28.880
<v Speaker 2>there also could have been assumptions made by people that

424
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<v Speaker 2>became these truths that they start to tell as well,

425
00:22:32.519 --> 00:22:35.519
<v Speaker 2>because they're thinking, like, what could have motivated this, what

426
00:22:35.640 --> 00:22:37.920
<v Speaker 2>could have driven this? And if race becomes part of

427
00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:42.240
<v Speaker 2>the conversation, I could see people recalling things that maybe

428
00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:44.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't even happen or didn't happen at that specific event,

429
00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:46.920
<v Speaker 2>and feeling like those were factual.

430
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<v Speaker 1>A large search effert was performed at the area, and

431
00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:54.440
<v Speaker 1>even though the farmhouse was mostly surrounded by fields, there

432
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<v Speaker 1>was also a large stream of water called Mill Creek

433
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<v Speaker 1>located about two hundred and fifty feet away. On April

434
00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:03.880
<v Speaker 1>the twelfth, the Lee's Summit Underwater Rescue and Recovery team

435
00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:06.400
<v Speaker 1>were brought into search the creek as the water was

436
00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:09.000
<v Speaker 1>only about three feet deep, but they failed to turn

437
00:23:09.079 --> 00:23:12.319
<v Speaker 1>up any trace of Alonzo. While this was going on,

438
00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:15.640
<v Speaker 1>the Brooks family constantly phoned the Lynn County Sheriff's office

439
00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:18.839
<v Speaker 1>for updates, but were eventually told to stop contacting them

440
00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:22.759
<v Speaker 1>because they were busy quote unquote working on things. Since

441
00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:25.440
<v Speaker 1>the search effort was coming up empty, the Brooks family

442
00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:28.200
<v Speaker 1>wanted to perform their own search of the property surrounding

443
00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the farmhouse, but After the request was repeatedly denied for weeks,

444
00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:36.039
<v Speaker 1>Sheriff's Tits finally granted them permission to do so. On

445
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<v Speaker 1>May the eleventh, twenty seven days after Alonzo was last seen.

446
00:23:39.920 --> 00:23:43.839
<v Speaker 1>Alonzo's friends and relatives started searching the property alongside around

447
00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:48.240
<v Speaker 1>fifty volunteers. Well only about a half hour after they started.

448
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<v Speaker 1>Some of the search volunteers started heading towards a white

449
00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:53.920
<v Speaker 1>shed on the property, but while cutting through some brush

450
00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:56.559
<v Speaker 1>in order to clear a path, they suddenly came across

451
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<v Speaker 1>Alonzo's body on the banks of Middle Creek. It was

452
00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:02.720
<v Speaker 1>lying on top of a pile of debris, and aside

453
00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:07.039
<v Speaker 1>from his missing boots, Alonzo was fully clothed. Investigators from

454
00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:09.640
<v Speaker 1>the KBI and the FBI were quickly summoned to the

455
00:24:09.680 --> 00:24:11.200
<v Speaker 1>scene to recover his body.

456
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, two questions. Do we know if he was wearing

457
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<v Speaker 2>the same clothes that he was wearing the night.

458
00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Of the party? I think so, yes, Okay.

459
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<v Speaker 2>And then when you look at this idea that they

460
00:24:20.920 --> 00:24:24.559
<v Speaker 2>had to cut down brush before they found him. Originally

461
00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:27.319
<v Speaker 2>we said that this had been extensively searched. If they're

462
00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:29.279
<v Speaker 2>having to cut brush down, do you think that he

463
00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:32.079
<v Speaker 2>was just well placed inside that brush and that's why

464
00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:33.039
<v Speaker 2>nobody found him.

465
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<v Speaker 1>I'm not entirely sure because I just made mention of

466
00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the Least Summit Underwater Rescue and Recovery team who searched

467
00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:42.160
<v Speaker 1>this creek, and they were the ones who are adamant

468
00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.319
<v Speaker 1>that if Alonzo's body had been there the entire time,

469
00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:48.000
<v Speaker 1>they believed that they would have found it the first

470
00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:50.720
<v Speaker 1>time around. And I know that people miss bodies during

471
00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:53.519
<v Speaker 1>search efforts all the time, but this wasn't a particularly

472
00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:56.640
<v Speaker 1>big creek and it was only like three feet worth

473
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<v Speaker 1>of water, And because this was a professional search team,

474
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<v Speaker 1>I do find questionable that they would have missed Alonzo's body.

475
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:06.039
<v Speaker 1>And it just seems weird to me that once Alonzo's

476
00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:08.680
<v Speaker 1>family started performing their own search, they find them within

477
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<v Speaker 1>a half hour.

478
00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:13.039
<v Speaker 2>Really interesting fun fact. I have two friends that have

479
00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:16.319
<v Speaker 2>served on the Least Summit Underwater Recovery Team before. They

480
00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:20.680
<v Speaker 2>are deep sea divers and they're really big in a

481
00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:22.440
<v Speaker 2>scuba diving and things like that, and so when they

482
00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:25.440
<v Speaker 2>got the opportunity, they actually served on it for several years.

483
00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:27.200
<v Speaker 2>So they do amazing work and it's a lot of

484
00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:30.519
<v Speaker 2>volunteers who are doing incredible things and helping a lot

485
00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:32.519
<v Speaker 2>of families, so very very interesting.

486
00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:37.559
<v Speaker 3>Alonzo's autopsy would be performed by doctor Eric Mitchell, a

487
00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:41.160
<v Speaker 3>forensic pathologist who was Douglas County's coroner at the time.

488
00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:46.079
<v Speaker 3>Doctor Mitchell was unable to determine Alonzo's exact cause of death,

489
00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:50.279
<v Speaker 3>as his post mortem examination turned up no broken bones

490
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:55.240
<v Speaker 3>or fractures, no penetrating injuries, no sign of blunt force trauma,

491
00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:59.400
<v Speaker 3>and no gunshot or stab wounds. Mitchell could not rule

492
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<v Speaker 3>out the possible ability that strangulation may have occurred, as

493
00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:06.480
<v Speaker 3>the soft tissues of Alonzo's neck had been decomposed and

494
00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:10.519
<v Speaker 3>damaged by animals and insects, and even though there was

495
00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:14.440
<v Speaker 3>no water in Alonzo's lungs, Mitchell could not completely dismiss

496
00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:17.319
<v Speaker 3>the idea that he drowned, but since there was no

497
00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:21.039
<v Speaker 3>direct evidence of foul play, Alonzo's cause of death was

498
00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:25.400
<v Speaker 3>officially ruled to be undetermined. Since Alonzo had been drinking

499
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:28.319
<v Speaker 3>at the party, one potential theory was that he became

500
00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:32.680
<v Speaker 3>so intoxicated that he wandered away from the farmhouse towards

501
00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:35.680
<v Speaker 3>Middle Creek before he passed out and died of exposure.

502
00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:39.480
<v Speaker 3>While Mitchell could not say with any certainty that Alonzo's

503
00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:43.200
<v Speaker 3>death was accidental, he did believe that the evidence found

504
00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:46.119
<v Speaker 3>on his body was consistent with having been out there

505
00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:49.240
<v Speaker 3>on the banks of the creek for nearly a month. Well,

506
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Alonzo's loved ones had a hard time believing that, as

507
00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:55.920
<v Speaker 3>he only had a mild level of decomposition on his body,

508
00:26:56.440 --> 00:26:58.319
<v Speaker 3>so it did not appear that he'd been out in

509
00:26:58.359 --> 00:27:02.599
<v Speaker 3>the elements for twenty seven days. Mitchell theorized that Alonzo

510
00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:04.920
<v Speaker 3>could have wound up in Middle Creek and was trapped

511
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:07.720
<v Speaker 3>under water in a clog of branches and other debris

512
00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:11.079
<v Speaker 3>before a rainstorm caused the water levels to rise and

513
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:13.960
<v Speaker 3>his body was jarred loose and floated towards the bank

514
00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:18.240
<v Speaker 3>where he was found. However, Alonzo's family did not think

515
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:21.359
<v Speaker 3>he was underwater for an extended period of time, as

516
00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:23.640
<v Speaker 3>his body did not appear to be bloated and his

517
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:28.240
<v Speaker 3>skin complexion looked normal. Furthermore, Alonzo also had a number

518
00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:31.279
<v Speaker 3>of personal items on him, such as a billfold, wallet,

519
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:35.480
<v Speaker 3>and a bandana, which showed no signs of water damage.

520
00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:39.000
<v Speaker 3>The Lee's Summit Underwater Rescue and Recovery team were also

521
00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:42.279
<v Speaker 3>certain that they would not have missed Alonzo's body during

522
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.000
<v Speaker 3>their initial search of Middle Creek, since the water was

523
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:48.559
<v Speaker 3>only a few feet deep. The fury provided by Alonzo's

524
00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:52.039
<v Speaker 3>brother Billy, is that when Sheriff's sites gave permission for

525
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:54.599
<v Speaker 3>their family to perform their own search of the property,

526
00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:57.680
<v Speaker 3>he may have told other people about it, and word

527
00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:01.279
<v Speaker 3>eventually got back to those who were responded for Alonzo's death.

528
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:05.359
<v Speaker 3>They then responded by placing Alonzo's body on the banks

529
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:09.039
<v Speaker 3>of Middle Creek for his family to find. Indeed, one

530
00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:13.359
<v Speaker 3>unconfirmed rumor, which is always circulated throughout the community is

531
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:16.559
<v Speaker 3>that Alonzo's body was kept inside a freezer during a

532
00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:19.680
<v Speaker 3>twenty seven day window he was missing, which is why

533
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:22.960
<v Speaker 3>his body only had mild decomposition when it was discovered.

534
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:27.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was going to ask that I was

535
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:28.960
<v Speaker 2>going to ask, is there a way that he could

536
00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:32.279
<v Speaker 2>have been stored somewhere for twenty seven days? Because I

537
00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:35.759
<v Speaker 2>find it really really interesting that when they find his body,

538
00:28:35.799 --> 00:28:39.359
<v Speaker 2>there aren't evidence signs of abuse to the body. There's

539
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:43.559
<v Speaker 2>no significant bruising, there's no lacerations, there's no gunshot wound.

540
00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:45.599
<v Speaker 2>I was really expecting you to tell me that there

541
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:47.720
<v Speaker 2>were some kind of injuries to his body, and they

542
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:50.880
<v Speaker 2>justified it like he fell or something. But he looked

543
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:54.480
<v Speaker 2>pretty pristine. And I'm wondering I don't know this. I

544
00:28:54.519 --> 00:28:58.880
<v Speaker 2>should probably, but if you did freeze a body instantly

545
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:01.759
<v Speaker 2>after you killed, it, would bruising and everything have already

546
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:04.599
<v Speaker 2>set in? Or would that stop? Would the blood freeze

547
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:07.359
<v Speaker 2>so quickly that it couldn't saturate the skin or color

548
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:07.799
<v Speaker 2>the skin?

549
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:11.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't think you'd get like liver mortis and stuff,

550
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:14.799
<v Speaker 3>where the blood settles in a certain place. If it

551
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:17.759
<v Speaker 3>freezes quickly enough, you would think that the blood would

552
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:22.640
<v Speaker 3>freeze where it is. So if it's all in going

553
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:24.720
<v Speaker 3>through the veins at that point, somebody's put in there.

554
00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:28.079
<v Speaker 3>I guess it just depends how quickly it freezes. Okay,

555
00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:30.480
<v Speaker 3>so body is put in there, and then it's in

556
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.440
<v Speaker 3>there for twenty seven days in a freezer. You then

557
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:36.799
<v Speaker 3>take out the body and the body has mild decomposition.

558
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.279
<v Speaker 3>But then, because it had been frozen for that time,

559
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:44.440
<v Speaker 3>decomposition should hasten right Like it would catch up to

560
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:47.480
<v Speaker 3>the point where it should be once it's been out

561
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:49.440
<v Speaker 3>in the elements for a while, would it not.

562
00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like it would have rapid cell interioration and stuff

563
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:55.319
<v Speaker 2>like that and damage after it rewarmed. Yeah, I would

564
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:58.759
<v Speaker 2>think so too, because there's still damage to the quality

565
00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:02.480
<v Speaker 2>of the tissu shoes and things into the cell formations.

566
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:07.200
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, it's just the bruising might even

567
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:09.519
<v Speaker 2>come back or something to that effect, because it would

568
00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:11.200
<v Speaker 2>have deep tissue bruising anyway.

569
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:12.519
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know.

570
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:14.519
<v Speaker 2>I really thought, as i'all were describing it, I'm like,

571
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:18.559
<v Speaker 2>what if he was frozen? But I would think that

572
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:21.279
<v Speaker 2>a pathologist could go through and look at that and

573
00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:23.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe tell very interesting.

574
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:25.279
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. Well, that's the thing is, we're

575
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:27.640
<v Speaker 1>going to talk about this later. But they gave Alonzo

576
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.359
<v Speaker 1>another autopsy a couple of years ago after his body

577
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:33.079
<v Speaker 1>was exhumed, which made them change the ruling, but they've

578
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>been very secretive on what exact evidence they found. I

579
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:38.680
<v Speaker 1>was going to talk about doctor Mitchell as a doctor

580
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:41.720
<v Speaker 1>who has kind of questionable qualifications, so I could see

581
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>him missing something during the original autopsy. So I do

582
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.440
<v Speaker 1>wonder after doing this second autopsy, if they did find

583
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>some evidence which made them lean towards the idea that

584
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 1>he could have been in a freezer for twenty seven days, is.

585
00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:57.279
<v Speaker 2>It as bad as doctor Malick.

586
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:01.039
<v Speaker 1>No, nobody as bad as doctor Malick. Don't worry. He

587
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:03.839
<v Speaker 1>didn't say that Alonzo smoked twenty marijuana cigarettes, so we're

588
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:05.119
<v Speaker 1>free from that at least.

589
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Or three self inflicted gunshot wounds.

590
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly perfect.

591
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:14.720
<v Speaker 3>I thought of you, Robin. I heard the other day

592
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:17.039
<v Speaker 3>my husband was reading me something about how somebody in

593
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:21.079
<v Speaker 3>Russia had I guess, somebody who'd probably likely vne against

594
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Putin or whatever, had wound up dead and they were

595
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:27.000
<v Speaker 3>saying that he was decapitated, and they were saying that

596
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:28.200
<v Speaker 3>it was suicide.

597
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:30.079
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, sounds like.

598
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:34.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, I'm like, it is doctor Malick over there.

599
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he faked his own death. That is working for

600
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Russia now, because he did do one where someone was

601
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:41.359
<v Speaker 1>found with his head missing, and he said that he

602
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:43.599
<v Speaker 1>died of an ulcer or something like that, and the

603
00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:45.559
<v Speaker 1>dog ate his head, so that's why it was missing.

604
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:48.359
<v Speaker 1>And I wish I was joking when I said that.

605
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:50.759
<v Speaker 3>That's what I thought of. When I thought about, Hi'm like,

606
00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:53.599
<v Speaker 3>it's gotta be famy mel like, maybe he's a double agent.

607
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:55.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I never know, Oh my gosh.

608
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:58.480
<v Speaker 2>And no that guys, anyone listening, We're not laughing at

609
00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:01.640
<v Speaker 2>the desk. I promise we're laughing at this doctor who's horrific.

610
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:04.720
<v Speaker 2>It's got a laugh or you just wouldn't know what

611
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:05.559
<v Speaker 2>to do with yourself.

612
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.119
<v Speaker 1>So, even though dozens of witnesses who had attended the

613
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:12.000
<v Speaker 1>party were interviewed by law enforcement, none of them provided

614
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>information that led the investigation any closer to resolution, and

615
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:19.079
<v Speaker 1>some of these witnesses reportedly lawyered up before they could

616
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:22.799
<v Speaker 1>be questioned and declined to take polygraph tests. The case

617
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:26.119
<v Speaker 1>would remain dormant until June of twenty nineteen, when the

618
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:28.599
<v Speaker 1>KBI announced that they were unable to turn up any

619
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.160
<v Speaker 1>evidence that Alonzo had been the victim of a crime,

620
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>so they were closing the investigation into his death. But

621
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:38.559
<v Speaker 1>one year later, on June the eleventh, twenty twenty, it

622
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:41.759
<v Speaker 1>was publicly announced that the FBI, the Department of Justice,

623
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:45.480
<v Speaker 1>and the United States Attorney's Office had reopened the investigation

624
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:48.839
<v Speaker 1>and were still exploring the possibility that Alonzo had been

625
00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the victim of a hate crime. A one hundred thousand

626
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>dollars reward was now being offered for information which led

627
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>to the arrest and conviction of the individual responsible for

628
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Alonzo's death. According to Stephen McAllister, the US Attorney for

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<v Speaker 1>the District of Kansas, the case had been brought to

630
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<v Speaker 1>their attention by Unsolved Mysteries, who were about to launch

631
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<v Speaker 1>a reboot of their show on Netflix. During an interview

632
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:14.720
<v Speaker 1>with Entertainment Weekly, one of the show's co creators, Terry

633
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.599
<v Speaker 1>dun Muir, confirmed that Alonzo's story had been on the

634
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:21.079
<v Speaker 1>radar since twenty seventeen and they were always hoping to

635
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:24.599
<v Speaker 1>feature it once they relaunched. While in July, the first

636
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:28.759
<v Speaker 1>the Unsolved Mysteries reboot finally dropped on Netflix, and Alonzo's

637
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:32.359
<v Speaker 1>episode was titled No Ride Home. As a result, a

638
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:34.759
<v Speaker 1>number of new tips came in and were passed on

639
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:38.119
<v Speaker 1>to the FBI. One new piece of information, which was

640
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>later shared publicly, is that a second party had taken

641
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:43.880
<v Speaker 1>place in l Scene on the night Alonzo went missing.

642
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:46.640
<v Speaker 1>When a fight broke out there, a number of the

643
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:49.680
<v Speaker 1>attendees wound up leaving and heading over to the party

644
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:53.119
<v Speaker 1>at the Farmhouse. So investigators were hoping that anyone who

645
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:57.279
<v Speaker 1>attended both parties might have useful information and would come forward.

646
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:00.920
<v Speaker 2>And did they were. They Some of the people who

647
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:02.839
<v Speaker 2>called in and gave some of the new tips that

648
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:04.279
<v Speaker 2>hit when Unsolved Mysteries as.

649
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:06.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm not entirely sure unfortunately. I mean, they just said

650
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:08.159
<v Speaker 1>that they got tips, but I know that a lot

651
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:10.119
<v Speaker 1>of the time they don't like to share what a

652
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:12.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of these tips are unless they lead to a

653
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:15.519
<v Speaker 1>new development to the investigation. So still kind of a mystery.

654
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:19.440
<v Speaker 3>Just over three weeks after the release of the Unsolved

655
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:24.559
<v Speaker 3>Mysteries episode, the FBI had Alonzo's body exhumed and transported

656
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:27.280
<v Speaker 3>to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware for a new

657
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:31.960
<v Speaker 3>autopsy from the Armed Forces Medical Examiner. In April twenty

658
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.559
<v Speaker 3>twenty one, the FBI announced that this autopsy had allowed

659
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:40.239
<v Speaker 3>them to conclusively determine that Alonzo's death was not an accident.

660
00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:45.079
<v Speaker 3>While they've been very secretive, as Robin mentioned about specific details,

661
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:49.239
<v Speaker 3>they did state this new examination revealed that Alonzo had

662
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:53.559
<v Speaker 3>injuries to his body which were quote inconsistent with normal

663
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:59.039
<v Speaker 3>patterns of decomposition. Therefore, his death was officially reclassified as

664
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<v Speaker 3>a homicide. Timothy Langan, the Special Agent in charge of

665
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:06.719
<v Speaker 3>the Kansas City Branch of the FBI, stated, quote, we

666
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:10.239
<v Speaker 3>remained dedicated to uncovering the truth surrounding the murder of

667
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:14.519
<v Speaker 3>Alonzo Brooks and ensuring those responsible are held accountable for

668
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:18.920
<v Speaker 3>their actions. While the FBI has launched a new investigation

669
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:23.239
<v Speaker 3>into Alonzo's death, no new developments have been publicly released

670
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:27.000
<v Speaker 3>during these past four years, so the circumstances of how

671
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:30.280
<v Speaker 3>he was killed continue to remain an unsolved mystery.

672
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:33.719
<v Speaker 1>So I guess you could say the path went Chile.

673
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<v Speaker 2>Do you guys think that the original autopsy just overlooked

674
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:41.199
<v Speaker 2>these things or do you think that some of the

675
00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:44.679
<v Speaker 2>tips in information that came in gave guidance as to

676
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:46.519
<v Speaker 2>where to look or what to look for, and it

677
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:50.360
<v Speaker 2>just created more of a information basis for a new

678
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:53.920
<v Speaker 2>autopsy to reveal a different outcome. Because it takes a

679
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:58.280
<v Speaker 2>lot to change an original autopsy report. There's a very

680
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:01.679
<v Speaker 2>huge hesitation for any law enforcement agency to say we're

681
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:04.599
<v Speaker 2>going to change it to a homicide not undetermined, but

682
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:08.159
<v Speaker 2>to a homicide. So if it was that clear, was

683
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:11.280
<v Speaker 2>it just overlooked or was it it kind of impossible

684
00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:13.920
<v Speaker 2>to find without details that perhaps some of these tips

685
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:14.360
<v Speaker 2>led to.

686
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a combination of both. I think that

687
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:20.000
<v Speaker 1>doctor Mitchell may have missed something during the original autopsy.

688
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>And I'll reveal my new theory in our next episode.

689
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:25.960
<v Speaker 1>But I kind of have my own thoughts about what

690
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:28.559
<v Speaker 1>kind of new injury they discovered on Alonso that they

691
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:30.880
<v Speaker 1>might have missed the first time around. And I do

692
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:33.199
<v Speaker 1>think that it is a possibility that maybe some new

693
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:35.119
<v Speaker 1>tips came in, like they could have been nothing more

694
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:38.280
<v Speaker 1>than hearsay or unverified rumors about what happened to them,

695
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:40.840
<v Speaker 1>but it could have compelled the FBI to decide, we're

696
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:43.320
<v Speaker 1>going to perform a new autopsy and we're going to

697
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Speaker 1>look for this specific injury, and that might be what

698
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:48.920
<v Speaker 1>they discovered to make them change the ruling and finally

699
00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>decide that yes, he was the victim of a homicide.

700
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.000
<v Speaker 1>So I still remember when the episode about this story

701
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:59.000
<v Speaker 1>dropped on Netflix and Unsaw Mysteries fans were instantly comparing

702
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.079
<v Speaker 1>it to one of the most memory cases from the

703
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:04.719
<v Speaker 1>original series, and that's the unexplained nineteen eighty one death

704
00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:08.199
<v Speaker 1>of Kurt Sova. As you probably know, that story has

705
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:10.400
<v Speaker 1>also been featured on The Trail Went Cold and the

706
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:13.599
<v Speaker 1>Pathwent Chili and involved a seventeen year old kid who

707
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.440
<v Speaker 1>went missing while attending a party until his body was

708
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:20.559
<v Speaker 1>discovered in a nearby vacant lot five days later. Even

709
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>though Kurt had supposedly been drinking a lot of alcohol

710
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:26.400
<v Speaker 1>in then I was last seen alive, the medical examiner

711
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:30.159
<v Speaker 1>was unable to determine an exact cause of death. This

712
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:33.079
<v Speaker 1>lot had also been searched on a previous occasion. During

713
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the five day window, Kurt was missing and his body

714
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:38.840
<v Speaker 1>was not there, so of course there was speculation that

715
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:41.840
<v Speaker 1>whoever was involved in Kurt's death planted him at that

716
00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:45.320
<v Speaker 1>location to be found. Well, I'm sure you can already

717
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:48.079
<v Speaker 1>see the parallels with the Alonzo Brooks case, though I'd

718
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:52.119
<v Speaker 1>say this one is even more puzzling. Instead of five days,

719
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Alonzo had been missing twenty seven days before he was found,

720
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:57.599
<v Speaker 1>and his body was at a location which had been

721
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:01.760
<v Speaker 1>extensively searched by numerous law enforces agencies. And while the

722
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:04.880
<v Speaker 1>circumstances of how Kurt Sooba died are still a mystery,

723
00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:08.239
<v Speaker 1>the consensus seems to be that it was accidental and

724
00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:11.719
<v Speaker 1>possibly the result of something like alcohol poisoning. So I

725
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:15.239
<v Speaker 1>doubt that a homicide took place. However, that's certainly not

726
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the case with Alonzo Brooks, who was a person of

727
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>color who went missing and was found dead in a

728
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>predominantly white area that seems to have a reputation for

729
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:28.039
<v Speaker 1>racism among its residents. Now that it's officially been confirmed

730
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:31.119
<v Speaker 1>that foul play took place, there has been speculation that

731
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:33.840
<v Speaker 1>he was the victim of a hate crime. As you

732
00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:37.039
<v Speaker 1>can imagine, this theory picked up a lot of steam because,

733
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:40.960
<v Speaker 1>by pure coincidence, the Unsaw Mysteries episode happened to drop

734
00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:44.360
<v Speaker 1>just over a month after the murder of George Floyd, so,

735
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:47.280
<v Speaker 1>as you can imagine, racial tensions were running high in

736
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the United States at that time. Even though the Kansas

737
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:54.599
<v Speaker 1>Bureau of Investigation had closed Alonzo's case in twenty nineteen,

738
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:58.119
<v Speaker 1>the FBI and the Department of Justice still felt it

739
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:01.000
<v Speaker 1>was worth pursuing, and I fight it interesting that they

740
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:03.679
<v Speaker 1>publicly announced that they were investigating his death as a

741
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:07.320
<v Speaker 1>hate crime a few weeks before the Unsolved Mysteries episode

742
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:09.760
<v Speaker 1>came out. I'm sure they sensed that there would be

743
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:13.159
<v Speaker 1>a strong reaction to the presentation of Alonzo's story and

744
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:16.360
<v Speaker 1>wanted to preemptively assure the public that yes, they were

745
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:20.079
<v Speaker 1>working on the case and taking it seriously. And sure enough,

746
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:23.039
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't long before Alonzo's body was exhumed and given

747
00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:26.360
<v Speaker 1>a new autopsy which uncovered new evidence to compel the

748
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:31.239
<v Speaker 1>authorities to officially reclassify his death as a homicide. All

749
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:33.639
<v Speaker 1>we know is that they made this determination based on

750
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:37.239
<v Speaker 1>a re examination of injuries on Alonzo's body, But I'm

751
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:39.239
<v Speaker 1>sure a lot of details have been withheld from the

752
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:42.159
<v Speaker 1>public and we have no idea what leads, if any

753
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:45.599
<v Speaker 1>then investigators may have looked into these past four years.

754
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:49.239
<v Speaker 2>You know what's interesting is that when you look at

755
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:52.000
<v Speaker 2>the idea that they reclassified it as a hate crime

756
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:56.239
<v Speaker 2>before the Unsolved Mysteries case came out on television, they

757
00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:59.519
<v Speaker 2>must have had some pretty interesting information because I could

758
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:03.599
<v Speaker 2>see this changing big decisions like that, or again going

759
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:06.079
<v Speaker 2>back and exhooming the body and looking for something based

760
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:09.119
<v Speaker 2>on a tip they received. But to make conclusions like

761
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:12.599
<v Speaker 2>that we're investigating this as a hate crime prior to

762
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.840
<v Speaker 2>getting a renewal of this case and kind of a

763
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:19.800
<v Speaker 2>new look at this case is really interesting. Yes, law

764
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:23.719
<v Speaker 2>enforcement was looking at it before Unsolved Mysteries aired the episode,

765
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:26.639
<v Speaker 2>but I'm sure they got a lot of information, both

766
00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:31.880
<v Speaker 2>valid and nonsensical, once that aired. So speaks volumes about

767
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:35.400
<v Speaker 2>what information they already had before the show, even broadcasts

768
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:36.960
<v Speaker 2>this episode, and.

769
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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you that even though this case did

770
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:41.760
<v Speaker 1>get a whole lot of media coverage before Unsolved Mysteries,

771
00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:43.960
<v Speaker 1>it was like a case I got a lot of

772
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>unverified gossip and rumors online because there are always discussions

773
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:51.079
<v Speaker 1>about it on Reddit and various message boards, because it

774
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:53.079
<v Speaker 1>was one of those stories that took place in a

775
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:56.320
<v Speaker 1>small town where everybody had their own story about what

776
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:59.079
<v Speaker 1>they believed happened and would gossip about it. So I

777
00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:02.000
<v Speaker 1>think law enforcement was aware that once this gets national

778
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:04.119
<v Speaker 1>exposure on Netflix, there's going to be a lot of

779
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.559
<v Speaker 1>discussion about this and we should definitely take it seriously

780
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:09.639
<v Speaker 1>because if we just ignore it, there's going to be

781
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>a backlash. So we should assure the public that we're

782
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:14.400
<v Speaker 1>going to give it our full attention.

783
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:18.599
<v Speaker 3>So we mentioned in the intro that the biggest criticism

784
00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:21.440
<v Speaker 3>of the Unsolved Mysteries reboot is that they've covered a

785
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:26.480
<v Speaker 3>number of cases involving suspicious suicides or accidental deaths and

786
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:29.519
<v Speaker 3>had a tendency to leave out key details which did

787
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:33.239
<v Speaker 3>not fit the foul play narrative. Like the original series,

788
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:36.760
<v Speaker 3>this reboot could potentially be used as a valuable tool

789
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:40.559
<v Speaker 3>to bring a resolution to unsolved crimes, but it doesn't

790
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:42.920
<v Speaker 3>really help much when you're focusing on a bunch of

791
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:45.920
<v Speaker 3>stories in which there is no actual crime to solve.

792
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Whenever new episodes have dropped on Netflix, it's become a

793
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:53.559
<v Speaker 3>tradition for media outlets to publish articles about the featured

794
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:58.800
<v Speaker 3>cases titled quote what unsolved mystery is left out? We've

795
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:01.440
<v Speaker 3>seen them publish this type the article for the episode

796
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:05.360
<v Speaker 3>on Alonzo Brooks, as the show did leave out some details,

797
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:09.039
<v Speaker 3>But to be fair, we haven't found any new information

798
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:12.760
<v Speaker 3>during our research which would point towards Alonzo's death being

799
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:16.639
<v Speaker 3>an accident or the show giving a dishonest presentation in

800
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:19.599
<v Speaker 3>order to fit their narrative. But out of all these

801
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.679
<v Speaker 3>cases featured on the Unsolved Mysteries reboot, I think the

802
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:26.639
<v Speaker 3>death of Alonzo Brooks is Probably Sorry is probably the

803
00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:29.000
<v Speaker 3>one in which you're going to find the largest amount

804
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:34.440
<v Speaker 3>of rumors, gossip, and unconfirmed speculation online. They even acknowledged

805
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:38.039
<v Speaker 3>this during the episode and discuss some of the uncorroborated

806
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:40.719
<v Speaker 3>theories which have been shared on places like Reddit and

807
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:44.719
<v Speaker 3>social media these past two decades. Back in twenty ten,

808
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:48.880
<v Speaker 3>a blog called Cold Case Kansas published a post about

809
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:52.119
<v Speaker 3>this case, and its comment section is just flush with

810
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:56.480
<v Speaker 3>people claiming to be from the Lacine area, who share Lucine,

811
00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:00.599
<v Speaker 3>from the Lacine area, who've all shared, who have shared

812
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:03.760
<v Speaker 3>all the rumors in gossip that have supposedly spread throughout

813
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:07.039
<v Speaker 3>the years. This case has often been described as one

814
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:10.760
<v Speaker 3>of those small town mysteries in which the entire community

815
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:13.239
<v Speaker 3>knows who did it, but a cover up has been

816
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:17.199
<v Speaker 3>orchestrated to protect the guilty parties, and the authorities lack

817
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:19.840
<v Speaker 3>the necessary evidence to make an arrest.

818
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:20.559
<v Speaker 1>Well.

819
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:23.679
<v Speaker 3>One thing the Unsolved Mysteries episode did not do is

820
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:28.039
<v Speaker 3>present the names of any potential suspects or persons of interest,

821
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:31.199
<v Speaker 3>and other than three of Alonzo's friends, we do not

822
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:34.440
<v Speaker 3>know the identities of anyone who hosted or attended the

823
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:37.840
<v Speaker 3>party which took place on the night Alonzo disappeared. But

824
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:40.599
<v Speaker 3>if you search hard enough online, you can find the

825
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:43.199
<v Speaker 3>names of some local residents who are rumored to be

826
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:47.000
<v Speaker 3>involved in Alonzo's death. Since their names have never been

827
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:49.800
<v Speaker 3>shared by law enforcement, we're not going to repeat them

828
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:52.599
<v Speaker 3>on this episode, but I will mention that a number

829
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:55.559
<v Speaker 3>of these people hail from a prominent family in the area,

830
00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:59.239
<v Speaker 3>which is why there have been so many conspiracy theories

831
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:02.480
<v Speaker 3>about a cover up. One of the most prevalent rumors

832
00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:05.440
<v Speaker 3>is that Alonzo's dad occurred because he flirted with a

833
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:08.119
<v Speaker 3>young white woman at the party who was a member

834
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:10.920
<v Speaker 3>of this family, which may have paid the way for

835
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:14.320
<v Speaker 3>a hate crime. During an interview she gave with Dateline,

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<v Speaker 3>Alonzo's mother, Maria Ramirez, stated quote, I'm Mexican and his

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<v Speaker 3>father is black, so he's mixed. They didn't just target

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<v Speaker 3>one race or kill one race, they killed two. He

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<v Speaker 3>was targeted because of the color of his skin.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we know if these are just an extension of

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<v Speaker 2>the rumors? Do you think that law enforcement has fed

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<v Speaker 2>Maria information that supports the idea that this was racially motivated?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it an assumption that people are making because of

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<v Speaker 2>the dynamics of that party, because of the minority status

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<v Speaker 2>of Alonzo, that he's in the middle of a rural

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<v Speaker 2>farm town and he is not the same race as

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<v Speaker 2>the other people who are at the party. Do we

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<v Speaker 2>know if any of the fights were something where a

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<v Speaker 2>racial slur or derogatory comments were made.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, like, we've heard a lot of rumors about these

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<v Speaker 1>fights and how one of them allegedly started because someone

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<v Speaker 1>used a racial slur and Alonzo's presence, But we just

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any like first hand accounts, like anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>has gone on the record and said that, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>saw this happen. It all seems to be like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of hearsay, gossip and rumors, so I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about how many of them are actually true. But that

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<v Speaker 1>is a good question. I don't know if law enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>has shared any information with Alonzo's family in which they've

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<v Speaker 1>told them that yes, we have information that his death

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<v Speaker 1>was a hate crime, or if that's just speculation, because

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<v Speaker 1>of course it's all over the internet. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people have been sharing rumors that this is what took place,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know how much law enforcement has been

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<v Speaker 1>able to deviate fact from rumor.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's hard for a family who doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>answers because you want to know why, why would someone

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<v Speaker 2>think that they could steal my son's life from him?

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<v Speaker 2>What could have motivated this? They try to play the

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<v Speaker 2>scenes in their head and in the most natural explanation

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<v Speaker 2>is yes, it probably was racially motivated. But I'm wondering,

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<v Speaker 2>is it something where their grief is leading to I

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<v Speaker 2>need answers, and so I build narratives that make sense

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<v Speaker 2>or that could explain the situation, or is it information

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<v Speaker 2>that's been given to me? Because sometimes information is helpful,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it further causes trauma that there's no solution to

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, And then information can also be something

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<v Speaker 2>that helps to heal and write the narrative that allows

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<v Speaker 2>you to move forward and process even when you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a perpetrator. But I'm just wondering to what extent

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<v Speaker 2>the poor families left with creating the narrative versus being

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<v Speaker 2>fed certain information that could again complicate or help the

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<v Speaker 2>grief that they're feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. I do know that during the early stages of

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<v Speaker 1>the investigation, the family was quite frustrated because law enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>didn't appear to be taking Alonzo's disappearance seriously or do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think they've been a lot more cooperative in

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<v Speaker 1>recent years because it is the FBI the Department of Justice,

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<v Speaker 1>So I would not be surprised at all if they

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<v Speaker 1>had given the family information to keep them in the loop.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why the family has their own ideas about

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. So I think that about brings an end

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<v Speaker 1>to part one join us next week as we present

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<v Speaker 1>part two of our series about the murder of Alonzo Brooks.

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<v Speaker 4>Robin, do you want to tell us a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, The Trail Cold Patreon has been around for three

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to thank you all for listening, and

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<v Speaker 1>bundle up because cold trails and Chili pass call for

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