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<v Speaker 2>It is Channel nine, first one to weather forecast. A

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<v Speaker 2>right now. Chuck Ingram, what's going on with traffic.

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<v Speaker 3>five to eighty four one. But Rex, just keep coming

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<v Speaker 3>this morning. It's very rough on the wet roads. Northbound

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<v Speaker 3>more just below the lateral. Chuck Ingram, month fifty five

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<v Speaker 2>A thirty one.

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<v Speaker 4>Fifty five karsite talk station, and it's that time. Post

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<v Speaker 4>presidential election day or now we'll get here from Judge

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<v Speaker 4>Ownenapolitano every Wednesday at this hour and advance apologies from

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<v Speaker 4>Chuck Ingram for not doing a personalized message.

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<v Speaker 2>He knew you were coming on. It's just that he

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<v Speaker 2>had so much traffic issues going on here locally, he

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't have time. It's been kind of a I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I'll use a military term that you might

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<v Speaker 2>be familiar with. You're Honor Charlie Foxtrott kind of traffic

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<v Speaker 2>situation day here, so i'll extend to pology.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm familiar with that term. But I'm also spoiled rotten

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<v Speaker 1>by waking up on every Wednesday morning eagerly anticipating what

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna say.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, listen, man, I know the comments are always

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<v Speaker 2>directed to you, But I get as big a kick

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<v Speaker 2>out of him as you do, because Lord knows what

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to come out of his mouth. So anyhow,

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<v Speaker 2>it's always a pleasure to have you on the program. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>I know I've got your column here. What if voting

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<v Speaker 2>is fruitless? Which is well, the title can serve as

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting spring into your response or your reaction to

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<v Speaker 2>the It looks like a clean sweep. Donald Trump handily

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<v Speaker 2>one not just the electoral college, but the popular vote

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<v Speaker 2>as well, by more than four million, and control of

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<v Speaker 2>the Senate now in Republican hands by at least a

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<v Speaker 2>couple We have some ountliers that haven't been settled yet.

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<v Speaker 2>The House looks like it's going to be in the

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans' hands as well. I just clearly Kamala Harris. Harris's

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<v Speaker 2>messages of name calling didn't resonate with the American people.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Joe Biden has been a terrible president

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<v Speaker 1>domestically and foreign policy wise, and this was visited upon Harris,

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<v Speaker 1>who attempted to defend him and couldn't distance herself from him.

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<v Speaker 1>And the people are sick and tired of Ukraine, Gaza

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<v Speaker 1>and high prices. I mean, high prices are caused by

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<v Speaker 1>the Fed, the majority of whom we're appointed by Donald Trump. Nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 1>high interest rates, high prices hit everybody. She couldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a clear message on Gaza. I don't know if she

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<v Speaker 1>agrees with Joe Biden or not. Her husband and her

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<v Speaker 1>daughters are Jewish, and she frequently retreated to that as

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<v Speaker 1>a defense to her support of him. Notwithstanding the slaughter

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<v Speaker 1>of innocence there. Ukraine is utterly indefensible. So the people

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<v Speaker 1>wanted a change, and they voted for it. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not expect this at all. I went to bed early

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<v Speaker 1>and woke up expecting, you know when I usually get

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<v Speaker 1>up at four point thirty, probably after you get up,

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<v Speaker 1>expecting you know, litigation and recrimination and vote counting and recounting.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the time I finished brushing my teeth, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole world had declared Donald Trump the victor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the efforts by the Republicans to get the vote

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<v Speaker 2>out early in or this sort of stop the steal.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to overwhelm the Democrats with voters, get out early,

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<v Speaker 2>vote early. And you know the number of Republicans that

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<v Speaker 2>came out and voted early, really, I mean historic. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't even say anything other than that. So they reduced

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<v Speaker 2>that in a sea change.

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<v Speaker 1>In people's thinking. I was thinking about my teenage years

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<v Speaker 1>of JFK and LBJ and even Nixon. The Democrats never

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<v Speaker 1>lost as badly as they did this time. The last

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<v Speaker 1>time they lost this badly was nineteen eighty and nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty four, both of Reagan's victories. This is a tumultuous

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<v Speaker 1>trouncing of them, and it should be laid at the feat.

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<v Speaker 1>As I said earlier of Joe Biden. Now, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a political analyt, as you know. I'm much more on

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<v Speaker 1>the theoretical, long term what if side of things. But

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<v Speaker 1>living in the world that we live in and having

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<v Speaker 1>my own podcast and working at Newsmax, you know you

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<v Speaker 1>can't there's Chris seeing a squirrel. You can't help but

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<v Speaker 1>have opinions and want to share your analysis.

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<v Speaker 2>That's mine well and fair enough. It'll be interesting to

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<v Speaker 2>see all morning long. All the listeners and my guests

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<v Speaker 2>this morning of all shared the common belief slash recommendation

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<v Speaker 2>that Donald Trump should immediately take the high road welcome

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<v Speaker 2>open arms a new Republican voters who at minimum held

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<v Speaker 2>their nose to vote for him. He did make some

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<v Speaker 2>significant inroads in the Hispanic community as well as the

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<v Speaker 2>Black community, according to the the polling data that's come out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's in his character. I would advise

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<v Speaker 1>him to do the same thing. I would advise him

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<v Speaker 1>to call up people like Governor Whitman of New Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>and the Congresswoman Cheney and say welcome back. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>really not him. He's far more interested in punishing those

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<v Speaker 1>who irritated him than joining him. But maybe we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>a different Donald Trump. What will Joe Biden do? Will

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<v Speaker 1>he invite the Trumps to the White House? Here's an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting one for you. Will he pardon Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 1>save him from having to fire his own prosecutor?

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<v Speaker 2>It remains to be seen. He's still facing state charges though,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't think the presidential pardon can reach down

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<v Speaker 2>to state charges.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, No, no, it can't, Brian. He's facing a sentencing

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<v Speaker 1>on November twenty six, two days before Thanksgiving. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine that the sentencing will go forward. If it does,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine it would be custodial. The Georgia case

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<v Speaker 1>will probably seed without him. There are sixteen co defendants

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<v Speaker 1>in that case. The state can try all of them

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<v Speaker 1>and then either give up the ghost on Trump the

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<v Speaker 1>world will be very different four years from now, or

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<v Speaker 1>decide to try him them. But they certainly can't try

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<v Speaker 1>him in state court while he's the President of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States and the case is not ready to proceed

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<v Speaker 1>in the two months remaining in Biden's presidency.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, turning back to your column, what if voting is fruitless?

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<v Speaker 2>You ask a lot of rhetorical questions, of course, designed

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<v Speaker 2>to get people's juices flowing and to contemplate things. And

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<v Speaker 2>one of the ones I highlighted, what if the fatal

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<v Speaker 2>cocktail of big government and democracy ultimately produces dependency? Now

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<v Speaker 2>you elaborate on that one, But aren't we there already

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<v Speaker 2>with the number of people who are led to the

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<v Speaker 2>umbilical court of the federal government to basically live, sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>and get their clothing and shelter in pretty much everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>We've given the people the opportunity to choose not to

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<v Speaker 2>work and yet still live quite comfortably by contrast to

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, in a.

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<v Speaker 1>Great book by an Austrian philosopher I'm looking for it

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<v Speaker 1>on my shelf by the name of Hans Hermann Hauppa

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<v Speaker 1>h Oppe called democracy the god that failed. He argues

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<v Speaker 1>that when the people realize that they can legally and

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<v Speaker 1>peacefully vote themselves a share of other people's wealth, they

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<v Speaker 1>will continue to do so. And Jefferson and Hamilton foresaw this.

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<v Speaker 1>The two of them hated each other and never agreet

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<v Speaker 1>in anything except this. When the public learns that the

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<v Speaker 1>public treasury has become a public trough. They will only

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<v Speaker 1>send to Washington those who promise to return to them

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest piece of the pie. And that's what we

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<v Speaker 1>have to The government recognizes no restraint on its power

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<v Speaker 1>to transfer wealth, to start wars, to incur death, to

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<v Speaker 1>cause death, to incur debt, to spy on everybody, to

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<v Speaker 1>make a mockery of the Bill of Rights. The government

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<v Speaker 1>just recognizes no limits on that. Half of the decisions

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<v Speaker 1>made in the House of Representatives are made behind closed doors.

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<v Speaker 1>The Democrats vote in lockstep with their leadership. The Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>vote in lockstep with theirs. Unlike the Senate, there is

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<v Speaker 1>no debate whatsoever on the floor of the House. Each

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<v Speaker 1>member is given thirty or sixty seconds. Ask our dear friend,

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<v Speaker 1>Congressman Messi, how fruitless this is. Some of his most

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<v Speaker 1>eloquent and articulate speeches were given to an empty, empty

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<v Speaker 1>House of Representatives, because they all know how everybody's going

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<v Speaker 1>to vote. No matter what anyone says, that style of government,

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<v Speaker 1>secret party oriented, big government, pro war pro a transfer

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<v Speaker 1>of wealth will continue no matter who's in the White

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<v Speaker 1>House and who controls the Congress. That's the thesis of

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<v Speaker 1>my piece.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I wrote that obviously yesterday, before I knew the

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<v Speaker 1>outcome of the election. Trump may try some radical things.

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<v Speaker 1>He may try to abolish the Department of Education. He

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<v Speaker 1>may try to abolish Homeland Security, although I doubt it.

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<v Speaker 1>He likes police. The Department of Homeland Security employs one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty thousand Did you know this plane clothed cops? Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's five times the number of FBI agents there are.

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<v Speaker 1>What do they do? What do federal police do? They

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<v Speaker 1>don't direct traffic, they don't investigate crimes. What do they do?

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<v Speaker 1>While we don't know?

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<v Speaker 2>Always bringing up interesting points, Judge entered Apolitano.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to give the good people of Cincinnati heartburn.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of them are probably quite happy at the outcome

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<v Speaker 1>of the election.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know. You can't say that.

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<v Speaker 1>My job is to is to stir the pot from

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<v Speaker 1>the perspective of a person who believes that the Constitution

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I will tell you, your honor, If the city

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<v Speaker 2>of Cincinnati and the county in which it sits, Hamilton County,

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<v Speaker 2>had its way, it would be President Kamala Harris Or,

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<v Speaker 2>President of elekt Kamala Harris H and a whole big

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<v Speaker 2>blue wave is true.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Cincinnati was a Republican.

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<v Speaker 2>Who has not been Republican since Ken Blackwell was mayor

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<v Speaker 2>back in the nineties. You got a this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is like four.

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<v Speaker 1>Decades Dennis did Dennis cousinich win.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I don't know that's it didn't cross my field

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<v Speaker 2>of vision.

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<v Speaker 1>He was running as an independent and he told me

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<v Speaker 1>he was leading both of his opponents. He of course,

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<v Speaker 1>is the former congressman from that district. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we have Bernie Moreno is now our new senator

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<v Speaker 2>in place of Shared Brown, which is a welcome, welcome

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<v Speaker 2>change in my listening audience. So Joe said, no Sinach lost.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a Joe strecker man with the with the

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<v Speaker 2>incident internet search. He can answer any question on a

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<v Speaker 2>Moment's no.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. That is a longtime friend. But thank you, Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and thank you your honor. As we usually do,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll end the program on Judging Freedom, your podcast, which

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<v Speaker 2>is wildly popular, I know because you have some great

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<v Speaker 2>guests on and of course always offering your wonderful commentary

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<v Speaker 2>and insight.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's on today, Oh, I have Colonel Douglas McGregor, Professor

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<v Speaker 1>John Meerscheimer, Professor Jeffrey Sachsville Giraldi, Aaron Monte have my

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<v Speaker 1>first team on today, not to talk politics, but to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Israel, which is really at war with itself

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<v Speaker 1>right now, especially after the leak of classified documents showing

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<v Speaker 1>the Prime minister that's in Yaho sabotaged the peace negotiations

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<v Speaker 1>and Ukraine is dying in slow motion. That's really where

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<v Speaker 1>we're going today. But I will ask colonel McGregor if

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<v Speaker 1>he who was in the Trump Defense Department, if he

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<v Speaker 1>expects much difference in American foreign policy in the new

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<v Speaker 1>Trump Defense Department. He'll probably say no, because the last

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<v Speaker 1>thing Donald Trump said two days ago about the Defense

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<v Speaker 1>Department was his shortlist was Tom Cotton and Mike Pompeio.

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<v Speaker 1>These are classic warhawks running the Department of Defense. So

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<v Speaker 1>World War three get ready.

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<v Speaker 2>From the Man City, he would lay hands and solve

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<v Speaker 2>the conflicts when his first day in office. I've always

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<v Speaker 2>been wondering how he was going to accomplish that. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>now find we have an opportunity to find out. Judge

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<v Speaker 2>ended up Allton, my dear friend, until next Wednesday. Best

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<v Speaker 2>of health, thanks for your commentary.

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<v Speaker 1>Back at you, Brian, always a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Take care eight forty four or fifty five care see

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<v Speaker 2>the talk station stick around. Got a few more minutes

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<v Speaker 2>to talk. If you want to call in, feel free

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<v Speaker 2>to do it, but I'll

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<v Speaker 1>Be right back fifty five KRC