Speaker 1: Of course, as always, we start local when there's something
Speaker 1: red hot local, which is saying a lot, right because
Speaker 1: to Trump what's going on nationally pun not intended is
Speaker 1: really hard to do right now because I don't know
Speaker 1: how long you've been live or how long you're going
Speaker 1: to live, but I doubt you've ever seen or will
Speaker 1: see a presidential cycle as absolutely crazy as this one, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, how can it get crazier? You know, Trump
Speaker 1: beats the Democrat, so in a backroom deal in the
Speaker 1: dead of night, they dumped the democratically elected Democrat nominee
Speaker 1: and just insert kind of like the polyp bureau, you know,
Speaker 1: inserting another candidate. Then they try to kill Trump, you know,
Speaker 1: whether the We don't know enough right at this point
Speaker 1: to know who's truly behind any of this, but we
Speaker 1: know there are these two major assassination attempts, and apparently
Speaker 1: one other that failed that we don't have the details on,
Speaker 1: so we have to wait and see on that. But
Speaker 1: we know Iran is out there trying to kill him
Speaker 1: right now, because the Biden administration confirmed it after it
Speaker 1: was confirmed that they knew Iran was trying to kill
Speaker 1: him before Pennsylvania, and then willfully clearly the Biden administration
Speaker 1: not providing adequate protection for the president for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: And that's still an open question that's being investigated. So
Speaker 1: it's tough to get any more interesting in that, particularly
Speaker 1: given the fact, as Peggy Nowonon said, it's a path election.
Speaker 1: This is one direction or the other, you know, that
Speaker 1: is the choice. And so yet here in Colorado today
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of hot stuff. Vote to oust
Speaker 1: Colorado Republicans embattled party chairman was in valid, Judge Roles.
Speaker 1: This is a Nick Coulturan piece in the Denver Post.
Speaker 1: In part it says the embattled leader of the Colorado
Speaker 1: Republican Party will remain at the GOP's helm after an
Speaker 1: El Paso County District Court judge ruled that a vote
Speaker 1: to remove Dave Williams in August was quote void and
Speaker 1: of no effect. The vote to take an oust Williams
Speaker 1: at an August twenty four meeting of the Central Committee
Speaker 1: in Brighton failed to meet the proper super majority threshold required.
Speaker 1: Judge Eric Bentley wrote in a ruling issued Wednesday evening
Speaker 1: that ruling renders a subsequent vote to replace Williams moot
Speaker 1: and the judgment effectively settles the leadership question for the
Speaker 1: party during the stretch run of the election, pending any appeal.
Speaker 1: The Post story says the party is at a historic
Speaker 1: low point in the state, with no Republican holding statewide office,
Speaker 1: and then it goes on from there. Reach for comment
Speaker 1: via text, Williams responded with a link to a party
Speaker 1: email sent Thursday morning celebrating the ruling and vowing vengeance
Speaker 1: against the leaders of the quote fringe majority faction that
Speaker 1: sought his ouster quote.
Speaker 2: Please know that your true.
Speaker 1: State party officers will seek all legal accountability in and
Speaker 1: out of court against Todd Watkins, Eli Bremmer and those
Speaker 1: who worked in the shadows to sow chaos and orchestrate
Speaker 1: an unlawful coup against the majority. Will let me add
Speaker 1: my own opinion at this point. Okay, I personally think
Speaker 1: that Todd Watkins and everyone else in Nancy Palazzi and
Speaker 1: everyone else, they weren't working in the shadows.
Speaker 2: They were upfront.
Speaker 1: They put their names on it, and they stood up
Speaker 1: like good Americans and good Coloradoes, and they said, Dave
Speaker 1: Williams is bad for this party. He's bad for the state,
Speaker 1: he's bad for the causes we believe in Watkins had
Speaker 1: supported him for party chair, and they were right out front.
Speaker 1: The guy hiding in the shadowsh's Dave Williams. He wasn't surfacing,
Speaker 1: he wasn't coming on the show. After he got select
Speaker 1: in his congressional race, he pretty much disappeared as far
Speaker 1: as I could tell. And so I admire the heck
Speaker 1: out of Watkins and Nancy Palazzi and the people who
Speaker 1: stood up publicly and they put their name on it
Speaker 1: and said, this is not who we are, this is
Speaker 1: about a cause greater than ourselves. He's tanking GOP candidates.
Speaker 1: He's tanking the party should be replaced. And they worked
Speaker 1: through the system diligently, put a lot of hard hours
Speaker 1: and time in and they worked through the process, and
Speaker 1: in the end they didn't get enough votes according to
Speaker 1: the court.
Speaker 2: I have no reason to question in the court's ruling.
Speaker 2: And you know, what.
Speaker 1: They did what I think we should admire and what
Speaker 1: we should really praise, because you know, they stood up
Speaker 1: to their own political party when their own political party
Speaker 1: went wrong. And I understand there are a lot of
Speaker 1: good people, a lot of people are kind enough to
Speaker 1: listen to the show disagree with me on that.
Speaker 2: And believe me, we will take your.
Speaker 1: Calls first eight five to five for zero five eight two,
Speaker 1: five to five the number text d an five seven
Speaker 1: seven three nine. And maybe there's some other statement from
Speaker 1: Dave Williams out there, but you would hope his first
Speaker 1: reaction to this would be, Okay, let's go get our
Speaker 1: people elected, rather than vowing vengeance. And then, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: constitutionally protected absolutely mischaracterizing Watkins and others as working in
Speaker 1: the shadows. How do you call it working in the
Speaker 1: shadows when they're out front in public calling for your ouster.
Speaker 1: And it was no small number people who voted for
Speaker 1: the ousters. So, in my opinion, make no mistake about it,
Speaker 1: it is Dave Williams who divided this Republican Party through
Speaker 1: his bizarre behavior that undermined the causes and was reflected
Speaker 1: and the way he got absolutely thumped in his own primary.
Speaker 2: And that's that.
Speaker 1: I've liked Dave personally, I've enjoyed talking to him. But
Speaker 1: you know, these causes should be bigger than any of us,
Speaker 1: and so I'm glad. I'm glad people stood up to him,
Speaker 1: they took their best shot. They didn't get enough votes. Fine,
Speaker 1: we move on, let's try to elect GOP candidates. And
Speaker 1: I wish that's what Dave was trumpeting today rather than
Speaker 1: what I view as these really false attacks against those
Speaker 1: who tried to do the right thing for these causes
Speaker 1: eight five five for zero five eight two five five
Speaker 1: Again those who disagree with me, and I know plenty
Speaker 1: of people, I respect you. I will take your calls first.
Speaker 1: So much on the docket today. We will go to
Speaker 1: the phone line shortly. They're wow, what a shot, loading
Speaker 1: up in a hurry, So we'll get to that. And
Speaker 1: nationally when it comes to the presidential just a quick
Speaker 1: overview of what we're going to be talking about there,
Speaker 1: you know, And it's so much fun every day, right
Speaker 1: as long as you like what the polls are saying.
Speaker 1: It's so much fun every day, and there's so much
Speaker 1: good stuff in the polling for Trump.
Speaker 2: But what we.
Speaker 1: Really really got to get to you today is a
Speaker 1: bunch of this sound from you. You can't really call
Speaker 1: it an interview right from this latest spongebath that Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris had last night from the handpicked fan over at MSNBC.
Speaker 1: But once again, I mean, how do you lose an
Speaker 1: Oprah interview, right, especially when Oprah is there to help you.
Speaker 1: How do you lose an interview with Stephanie Ruhle. But
Speaker 1: then again I fell into that trap. I used the
Speaker 1: I word, and nobody can really call this an interview.
Speaker 1: But at the end of it, here is Stephanie Rule MSNBC.
Speaker 1: And again she got this session because she was out
Speaker 1: there last week talking about I know, Kamala Harris shouldn't
Speaker 1: have to answer these tough questions. And yet here's what
Speaker 1: Stephanie Ruhle thought of it.
Speaker 3: One could watch that and say, well, she didn't give
Speaker 3: a clear, direct answer. That's okay because we are not
Speaker 3: talking about clear or direct issues.
Speaker 1: Dave Tepper our boss, and again to help on the
Speaker 1: show today while Ryan's on the beach somewhere. But Dave,
Speaker 1: you've been around a few years anyway, have you ever
Speaker 1: heard anything like that before?
Speaker 2: I mean from a prominent and I put.
Speaker 1: That in quotes because it's major, it has a big station,
Speaker 1: and you can go there and they have some audience.
Speaker 1: Somebody say, oh, it's okay, she didn't give direct answers.
Speaker 1: The interviewer to say that because these are complicated questions.
Speaker 1: I'm just asking Historically, is there any precedent for that
Speaker 1: kind of analysis?
Speaker 2: Not off the top of my head. No, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: can't think of anything.
Speaker 1: I mean, really, I'm going to have to play that
Speaker 1: again to make sure I understood it correctly. And here's
Speaker 1: here's some more from Stephanie Rule.
Speaker 4: On that I'm talking about that answer.
Speaker 2: I do. Here's what it's a little tricky.
Speaker 5: She doesn't answer the question around if the GOP is
Speaker 5: controlling the Senate, if she can't raise corporate taxes, where
Speaker 5: is she going to get the money from, you know,
Speaker 5: to expand the child's AXT credit and do all the
Speaker 5: things she wants to do. And she says, we just
Speaker 5: have to do it, and that's great, and that's a
Speaker 5: campaign promise.
Speaker 6: But the issue is if it means we're just going
Speaker 6: to borrow again, then what we're doing is we're just
Speaker 6: never addressing the deficit. And back in the days when
Speaker 6: you were a proud Republican, death's and deficits mattered.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll get to that full answer when we
Speaker 1: have a second but here's the point. Harris completely botched,
Speaker 1: and even worse for her, looked totally deer in headlights,
Speaker 1: dumbfounded when when Stephanie Rule dared to push her a
Speaker 1: little bit on a question, said, wait, to all this
Speaker 1: stuff you say you're going to do, how are you
Speaker 1: going to pay for it? If the Republicans have the Senate,
Speaker 1: how are you going to pay for it if you
Speaker 1: can't raise corporate taxes enough? And Harris, I mean truly,
Speaker 1: it was like you were talking to a high school freshman.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was scary and kind of entertain at the same time.
Speaker 1: So we'll bring that to you eight five five for
Speaker 1: zero five eight two five five the number getting your
Speaker 1: reaction to the court ruling today with the Colorado GOP
Speaker 1: and the Harris spongebath. Last night on MSNBC, You're on
Speaker 1: the Dan Kapla Show. I'll go to a phone lines
Speaker 1: right now and all this life and desk stuff. But
Speaker 1: I was by that north entrance at folsom Field, you
Speaker 1: know where the teamhouse is, and everybody had slept outside
Speaker 1: waiting to get in the show. And I go out
Speaker 1: there and I must have been eighteen or nineteen something
Speaker 1: like that, and I just stand in front of the crowd.
Speaker 1: I say, Okay, here's how we're going to do it.
Speaker 1: You know, when when the gates open at seven. This
Speaker 1: line goes, first, I'm talking all these Stones fans who
Speaker 1: have lined up over. I get about five seconds into
Speaker 1: the spiel and all of a sudden, these bottles come
Speaker 1: whizzing by my head.
Speaker 2: Is that okay? Thank you? A couple of great shows,
Speaker 2: though I am a right rich shows. Well, hold on,
Speaker 2: he's burying the lead. You're burying the lead. Dan, I
Speaker 2: tried to you played pinball Wizard.
Speaker 1: Not with Mick Jagger though that was the Who exactly,
Speaker 1: But I was, yeah, Roger Daltrey, that's right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: You trust pinball with him?
Speaker 1: Well, I played a who pinball machine with Roger Daltrey
Speaker 1: and didn't know who he was. So I'm the only
Speaker 1: person ever to turn to Roger Daltrey and say who
Speaker 1: are you? Which was our big song back, I said,
Speaker 1: who are you? Yeah, but I mean we're just a
Speaker 1: couple of guys playing pinball. We played and there's this
Speaker 1: guy sitting on the couch watching us. I later found
Speaker 1: out he was Pete Townson. Then I just said yeah,
Speaker 1: and I just hey, that's a good story. We're just
Speaker 1: playing away that.
Speaker 2: You know. The guy's big yellow hair and cool guy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember you.
Speaker 1: Well, you know it was probably the most funny had
Speaker 1: because I didn't know who he was. Because everybody else, right,
Speaker 1: who if they're fans, they're acting like fans. I wasn't
Speaker 1: acting like a fan because I didn't know who he was,
Speaker 1: or I would have acted like a fan.
Speaker 2: So you didn't even know. That's how'd you realize? I
Speaker 2: just did well.
Speaker 1: I kept looking at him, and I kept looking at
Speaker 1: the pinball machine, and finally I realized there was a resemblance.
Speaker 2: But he didn't say anything.
Speaker 1: I just finished the game and then you know, somebody
Speaker 1: told me, hey, you know who you were playing with? No?
Speaker 2: No, yeah, that's how I learned. Kelly's right, that's a story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, good story and added benefit of being true.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Brian and Arvada. You're on the Dan
Speaker 1: Kaplish'll welcome.
Speaker 7: Hey Dan, I'm not a huge fan of Dave Williams,
Speaker 7: just to put that out there. I was refreshed when
Speaker 7: he ran because I was sick of the old guard
Speaker 7: failing over and over and over again. So I was
Speaker 7: one of those people like, hey, let's give this guy
Speaker 7: a chance. And immediately, you know, the old guard threw
Speaker 7: him under the bus. The dick Wadham's out there, he's
Speaker 7: gonna he's gonna lose. He's a failure. Don't don't trust
Speaker 7: this guy without even giving him a chance. And then
Speaker 7: Dave made some comments I didn't like, and now they
Speaker 7: tried to oust him in the wrong way. And now
Speaker 7: they all have egg on their face.
Speaker 2: Oh I don't think they have egg on their faces.
Speaker 1: I think Oh yeah, I think I think they are
Speaker 1: going to be very well thought of for years to come.
Speaker 2: What's the wrong way about it? Brian?
Speaker 1: They stood up in public, they put their names on it,
Speaker 1: says he has to go.
Speaker 2: Here's why he has to go. Let's go have a vote.
Speaker 1: They went to court, they fought to get the vote,
Speaker 1: and they didn't get enough votes.
Speaker 2: How's that egg on your face? How is that the
Speaker 2: wrong way?
Speaker 7: Because they were they got what forty seven or was
Speaker 7: it eighty seven out of four hundred or something. It
Speaker 7: was a very minority vote. He won by a majority
Speaker 7: of the vote.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 7: And Brian housed him with a minority of the vote.
Speaker 7: And you're saying that's the right way.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, listen, I don't care if they got one vote.
Speaker 1: The fact is they were right, and they were courageous
Speaker 1: enough to stand up and say, bring it on, let's
Speaker 1: have the vote. And by the way, I think I
Speaker 1: got more votes than you mentioned, but I don't care
Speaker 1: if they got one vote. They were standing up for
Speaker 1: the right thing. They worked hard, they fought hard, and
Speaker 1: to me, there is great honor in that, and I
Speaker 1: think history very very soon will look back on them
Speaker 1: and say, thank god they stood up. And I think
Speaker 1: I know a lot of good people have stood behind
Speaker 1: Dave Williams, including people I really respect. But I am
Speaker 1: very proud to have stood up publicly and said no,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to support somebody who says those things
Speaker 1: and does those things.
Speaker 7: Yeah, right, and I can say that, But then trying
Speaker 7: to oust him with with the minority of people, that's
Speaker 7: not That's where the egg's on your face.
Speaker 1: But how because they stood up said he has to go,
Speaker 1: let's take a vote, and they didn't get enough votes. Hu,
Speaker 1: how is that egg on your face? If you accept
Speaker 1: my premise that they are right.
Speaker 7: They are right, almost like the football saying we asked.
Speaker 2: Well and they thought they had. They had a different
Speaker 2: interpretation of that rule.
Speaker 7: Hence the egg and all right, Well, hey, I'm.
Speaker 1: Not going to change your mind on that. But I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I think history is few of full
Speaker 1: of examples, and kell you can open up those lines
Speaker 1: if you want. I know, we want to get everybody in.
Speaker 1: I think history is full of examples of people who
Speaker 1: stood up, They fought the good fight, they were speaking
Speaker 1: the truth, they showed courage, and they lost and then
Speaker 1: you had you know, the man in the arena. In fact,
Speaker 1: we'll find a version of it and play it. You
Speaker 1: know that the man in the arena, you know, stands up,
Speaker 1: blood on his face, fights the good fight, and.
Speaker 2: He may lose.
Speaker 1: He may lose and get heckled by those timid souls
Speaker 1: you know who are out there in the stands. But
Speaker 1: I admire the man in the arena who stands up
Speaker 1: for the right thing, win or lose. Eight fo five
Speaker 1: or zero five eight two five five the number. We'll
Speaker 1: get to our other callers as well. But I just
Speaker 1: have to play more of this sound for you. It's
Speaker 1: absolutely fascinating to me. And what's so cool when you
Speaker 1: watch these spongebass that Harris Gatz you can't call him interviews.
Speaker 1: She won't sit down with the real interviewer because she can't.
Speaker 1: She can't succeed in these BackRub sessions. But what's very
Speaker 1: clear is that that she does the type of intelligence
Speaker 1: you need to say be president of the United States.
Speaker 1: She with that type of intelligence is probably at the
Speaker 1: lowest level of anybody we've seen run for that office
Speaker 1: in our lifetimes. And you can see it when even
Speaker 1: when she combles together and answered that okay, you know,
Speaker 1: if you read that on a piece of paper, that
Speaker 1: may be okay. And believe me, that's not every question.
Speaker 1: She's so slow with it and so ponderous, and it's like,
Speaker 1: please wake up, get the smelling salts.
Speaker 2: Vice President.
Speaker 5: You just laid out your economic vision for the future.
Speaker 5: But still there are lots of Americans who don't see
Speaker 5: themselves in your plans. For those who say these policies
Speaker 5: aren't for me, what do you say to.
Speaker 4: Them, Well, if you are hardworking, if you have the
Speaker 4: dreams and the ambition and the aspirations of get her
Speaker 4: some call glad. Believe you do, You're in my plan.
Speaker 4: You know I have to tell you I really.
Speaker 1: Love and I'm so let me tell you so we'll
Speaker 1: play the rest on the other side. I have talked
Speaker 1: like that at times. I mean, if you've been kind
Speaker 1: enough to listen to this show. You know, over thirty years,
Speaker 1: I haven't talked like that often. But when you hear
Speaker 1: me talking like that, it's because I'm trying to figure
Speaker 1: out the answer. And is she this was the most
Speaker 1: obvious question in the world coming her way. She had
Speaker 1: to have prepared for it, and she couldn't process it,
Speaker 1: she couldn't remember it, she couldn't figure out the answer,
Speaker 1: and so you get that very weak, awkward, slow stuff
Speaker 1: and it gets worse from there.
Speaker 2: We'll come back to that on the other side. And
Speaker 2: what do you think, Dave William still party chair? Good
Speaker 2: or bad? You're on the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 3: I could watch that and say, well, she didn't give
Speaker 3: a clear, direct answer. That's okay because we are not
Speaker 3: talking about clear on direct issues.
Speaker 2: Wow, think about that. Okay.
Speaker 1: So this is a person pushing for president, somebody who
Speaker 1: can't give a clear and direct answer on the major issues.
Speaker 2: Of the day. But that's okay.
Speaker 1: They should be president because these are really tough issues.
Speaker 1: These are hard issues. I mean, just one of the
Speaker 1: greatest quotes of all time eight five for zer five
Speaker 1: at two five to five the number text d an
Speaker 1: five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 2: If you just joined us, thank you.
Speaker 1: We're talking about locally court ruling that Dave Williams stays
Speaker 1: party chair. Court says that the group of Central Committee
Speaker 1: members who met to oust him did not have enough
Speaker 1: votes to do that, so it came down to an
Speaker 1: interpretation of a particular rule. Judge ruled, and so Dave
Speaker 1: Williams stays as chair. So we've been breaking that down
Speaker 1: and would love to hear from you on at eight
Speaker 1: five to five for zero five at two to five
Speaker 1: five in the number texts DAN five seven seven three nine,
Speaker 1: and of course all things national with the wackiest. While
Speaker 1: this probably most high stakes presidential election of our lifetime,
Speaker 1: let's go to the phone lines before the text. Brad
Speaker 1: in Highland's Ranch, you're on the Dan Kaplis show.
Speaker 8: Welcome, Hey Dan, this is Brad at Hymen's Ranch, number one.
Speaker 9: Thanks for having this discussion.
Speaker 2: Other stations spend days on.
Speaker 8: This issue and reviewed it in twenty seconds this morning
Speaker 8: and skipped right over it. So man, the Republican Party's
Speaker 8: motto is what are the rules and how do we win?
Speaker 8: And bottom line, this was a coup. They didn't follow
Speaker 8: the rules. They didn't follow the process and they lost miserably,
Speaker 8: and they also embarrass the Republican Party. As the other
Speaker 8: caller said, they do have a on their face. And
Speaker 8: I hope that Dave Williams goes after every penny of
Speaker 8: the two hundred thousand dollars we had to spend to
Speaker 8: defend our by laws and our officers that we write
Speaker 8: fully elected, spent our time, got in a car, rented hotels,
Speaker 8: We spent time as Republican members to properly.
Speaker 2: Elect our leaders, and Dave.
Speaker 9: Williams was our leader.
Speaker 8: This was a coup. They didn't follow the rules. We
Speaker 8: told him from the very beginning.
Speaker 9: And Dave wasn't absent.
Speaker 8: He was on radio shows, he was in places, but
Speaker 8: he was also in the middle having a new child.
Speaker 8: I mean, he had time off that he had already scheduled.
Speaker 8: So not looking for excuses, I'm just telling you he
Speaker 8: was out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he wasn't here.
Speaker 1: He wasn't here, and he's been on the show plenty
Speaker 1: over the years, so I thought he was duck in May,
Speaker 1: and I still think he was duck in May, and
Speaker 1: he's welcome on the show anytime, as he knows.
Speaker 2: But it did in no way shape or.
Speaker 1: Form as a coup when they stand up and say, okay,
Speaker 1: we want to have this vote and we want to
Speaker 1: get enough votes to oust him as the rules provide for,
Speaker 1: and they had a different interpretation of the number of
Speaker 1: votes required. They did it all in public. They stood
Speaker 1: up there and the judge said they didn't get enough votes.
Speaker 2: So I view that as something. Okay, so what how
Speaker 2: did they break.
Speaker 8: The rules down to the signatures that they used to
Speaker 8: start the first meeting?
Speaker 2: It was wrong?
Speaker 1: Well, they won the first round in court? No remember
Speaker 1: that they didn't know they didn't Well, okay, well there
Speaker 1: are three rounds because I remember they won one round
Speaker 1: in court and then Dave Williams won this round.
Speaker 2: Was there a third round in court?
Speaker 8: It was dismissed because it didn't have the court didn't
Speaker 8: have what was the word, not purview but standing not
Speaker 8: no one. I apologized, Dan, I can't remember the word.
Speaker 8: But it was just that the judge said that that
Speaker 8: it needs to be inner party settled or something along
Speaker 8: those lines.
Speaker 9: I apologize. I don't have the ruling in front.
Speaker 1: And I thought my impression anyway is the court felt
Speaker 1: that it got some bad information about what it actually
Speaker 1: happened within the party and then ruled in favor of
Speaker 1: the people who wanted Dave Williams out, and then this
Speaker 1: court ruled that the folks didn't get enough votes. But
Speaker 1: what this all comes back to, Brad, right, is you
Speaker 1: think Dave Williams should remain his chair. I think he shouldn't,
Speaker 1: and we just respectfully disagree about that.
Speaker 8: I think ELI should come to a meeting that's scheduled
Speaker 8: for this, that properly run, that doesn't have, you know, questions,
Speaker 8: lots of questions, especially when it comes to having one
Speaker 8: date and having proxies to have those dates on it.
Speaker 9: The meeting gets canceled moved to.
Speaker 8: Another date when not only does the BiLaw say the
Speaker 8: proxy has to have the proper date, so they have
Speaker 8: the second meeting using the old proxies.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Brad, let's say let's say it would never stand.
Speaker 2: Let's say that.
Speaker 1: We have a meeting and all Central Committee members are there,
Speaker 1: and what do you think the vote is?
Speaker 2: What do you think the vote is at the merchair?
Speaker 2: But by what spread? Though?
Speaker 1: What do you think and there what about four hundred
Speaker 1: Central Committee members?
Speaker 2: Is that right? Okay? So what what do you think
Speaker 2: the breakdown would be.
Speaker 9: He'd win by sixty percent.
Speaker 1: Okay, so about forty percent of the people would vote
Speaker 1: to oust them.
Speaker 2: And so Mike, uh, no, you would have.
Speaker 8: You would have a lot of people that can't make it.
Speaker 8: You'd have okay, you know, he would have he would
Speaker 8: have sixty percent of the vote of the full uh.
Speaker 2: And that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, this broader I submit more important,
Speaker 1: this twenty plus year sure, and I respect everybody who
Speaker 1: works in the trenches making this thing work. And but
Speaker 1: but tell me this, when you get to that point
Speaker 1: where you're going to have a large chunk okay, not
Speaker 1: not a super majority of sixty percent of four nineteen,
Speaker 1: but a large number of these Central Committee members who
Speaker 1: want him gone at that point, hasn't Dave Williams failed.
Speaker 8: No, because it was less than one fifth, As even
Speaker 8: the judge wrote in his willing yesterday, one fifth. You
Speaker 8: can't oust the chair on one fifth.
Speaker 9: Of the members.
Speaker 2: I mean not.
Speaker 8: I mean, this isn't an HLA or something like that.
Speaker 8: This is a well written by law. It's not missing
Speaker 8: a comma. I mean, it's common sense. Let me ask
Speaker 8: you this politics at all, look right at the bylaw
Speaker 8: and says, yeah, this is what.
Speaker 2: They're doing is wrong.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, of the four nineteen brad
Speaker 1: how many do you think would want Dave Williams to
Speaker 1: remain his chair?
Speaker 9: Well, as I said, over sixty percent.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, And I would love.
Speaker 1: To have that conversation with them because listen, so many
Speaker 1: great men and women in the rank and file of
Speaker 1: the GOPU I respect so much, and I know disagree
Speaker 1: with me in this, but I'd really like to have
Speaker 1: the conversation as to since I know they are deeply
Speaker 1: committed and I'm talking about the men and women in
Speaker 1: the trenches. Since I know they they are deeply committed
Speaker 1: to these causes that we share, then why would they
Speaker 1: want somebody to continue who, at this point is so
Speaker 1: obviously ineffective. I just don't get that, because I think
Speaker 1: that should come first.
Speaker 8: I had a single election, okay, And even the different
Speaker 8: points diver posts in the article that you read to
Speaker 8: us today stated that they were kind of pointing the
Speaker 8: finger that it's Dave Williams's fault that we don't have
Speaker 8: a single Republican leader elected at a statewide level.
Speaker 9: That's not Dave.
Speaker 2: Williams I've never said that.
Speaker 8: I've never said that saying the article that was read
Speaker 8: today and it points that out, which has nothing to
Speaker 8: do with Dave Williams.
Speaker 9: It's just saying that.
Speaker 8: The Republican Party's week and Dave Williams is a week leader,
Speaker 8: which he's not, Okay, a very strong and effective leader.
Speaker 1: And what makes him so effective? Help us with that?
Speaker 1: What is he John, that's been so effective?
Speaker 9: So instead, I've been doing this a decade.
Speaker 1: Can we do this because I want to give you
Speaker 1: plenty of time. Let me let me hit this brake
Speaker 1: and when we come back, Brad will we'll tell us
Speaker 1: what Dave Williams has done that has been so effective
Speaker 1: and helping the GOP win.
Speaker 2: We'll hear that together. You're on the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 4: We do have a broken immigration system and it needs
Speaker 4: to be fixed. And if we take a step back
Speaker 4: months ago, some.
Speaker 1: Of them and then she goes on to blame Trump.
Speaker 1: But so interesting, right the strategy now is yet you're right,
Speaker 1: it's broken, it needs to be fixed. That's a sea
Speaker 1: change in their strategy and then trying to blame Trump. Please,
Speaker 1: we'll send the limo for that one. Because because you've
Speaker 1: got to think the American people are absolute idiots to
Speaker 1: believe that Trump's responsible for this. If there's one thing
Speaker 1: that people as a whole get in this country is
Speaker 1: that Trump is about controlling the border, and it was
Speaker 1: a heck of a lot better when he was on
Speaker 1: the job. And these guys are about open borders. So
Speaker 1: her concession that, yeah, it is just dysfunctional. It is broken.
Speaker 1: Anybody who cares about the border is not going to
Speaker 1: vote for her if that's a priority to them at all.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the election, before we get back to our
Speaker 1: phone lines, nice story out of North Carolina. North Carolina
Speaker 1: election Board just revealed that they have removed seven hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand names from the voter rolls, including one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty thousand dead people and two hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety thousand registrations that were duplicates. This comes after a
Speaker 1: GOP lawsuit, so nice to see that out of North Carolina.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to our friend Brad in Highland's ranch.
Speaker 1: We disagree about whether Dave Williams is good for the party,
Speaker 1: but Brad was going to lay out for us now
Speaker 1: how he views Dave Williams as having been effective as
Speaker 1: party Chair.
Speaker 2: Have at it, my friend.
Speaker 9: I appreciate that, Dan real quick, I wanted to go back.
Speaker 8: I remember the term on the original lawsuit that Dave
Speaker 8: filed in a Rapo County court.
Speaker 9: It was lack of jurisdiction.
Speaker 2: That was it.
Speaker 8: There was a five pager decision lack of jurisdiction.
Speaker 2: Onto your question.
Speaker 8: You know Dave Williams was kneecapped. They basically left him
Speaker 8: with no money. They didn't pay the rent the prior chair.
Speaker 8: It was so bad we have to go back and
Speaker 8: do an audit.
Speaker 9: It is so bad.
Speaker 8: I would recommend you asked and you're welcome to Colorado
Speaker 8: gop to come on, Dave.
Speaker 1: Dave, Brad. I'm sorry it sounds like it, but Brad, please,
Speaker 1: I thought what you were going to address is the
Speaker 1: evidence that Dave has been effective, is chair, And if
Speaker 1: there's something else you want to talk about, I'm happy
Speaker 1: to do that too, But let's start with how Dave
Speaker 1: has been and why it happened, and why all this
Speaker 1: is happening.
Speaker 2: They're covering it up, okay.
Speaker 8: And Dave Williams is what stands between them and the truth?
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about and you're welcome to
Speaker 1: take all the time you want layout for us.
Speaker 2: How Dave Williams has been.
Speaker 8: Quoted, so you don't have to worry about me saying
Speaker 8: her name.
Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm not taking that crap. I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: him on a hold for a second. I'm the guy
Speaker 1: who comes on here every single day, every single day.
Speaker 1: You know where to find me. We don't censor anybody.
Speaker 1: Kelly doesn't screen anybody except to get their name. Dave
Speaker 1: Williams is the guy who's hid from this show forever.
Speaker 1: So I'm the guy who stands up and talks to anybody.
Speaker 2: Brad.
Speaker 1: We don't censor anybody. You can say any damn thing
Speaker 1: you want to unless it's not defamatory. Now you said
Speaker 1: you were going to take this segment and lay out
Speaker 1: for us how Dave Williams has been quote effective is
Speaker 1: party chair and I'm hearing everything from you except that.
Speaker 9: Okay.
Speaker 8: So he went from having no money having raised more
Speaker 8: money than any of the.
Speaker 2: Prior chair how much?
Speaker 8: Okay, I don't know the exact figure, but we hit
Speaker 8: almost a million dollars?
Speaker 2: How much? And how is it spent?
Speaker 8: The money is still there? We still have money.
Speaker 2: So there's a million.
Speaker 8: Last I heard us about four hundred thousand, okay, and
Speaker 8: it may be a little more than that, and we
Speaker 8: have other money that they none of us ever stopped.
Speaker 8: But we can't raise money in the same way because
Speaker 8: all the other mechanisms that we tried to use to
Speaker 8: raise money, like other chairs did, were just taken out
Speaker 8: from under mister Williams. Okay, I mean just taken out
Speaker 8: from under him. And so let me tell you how
Speaker 8: he made it better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, please, Okay.
Speaker 8: We're no longer using the same consultans, the ones who
Speaker 8: used to used to take our money and then go
Speaker 8: buy porsches and lose elections.
Speaker 1: They're not They're all fired. Who's being Who are the
Speaker 1: consultants who Day broddy. I'm not naming names.
Speaker 9: You can look it up.
Speaker 2: You're not naming it.
Speaker 1: These are consultants hired by the GOP and you're bragging
Speaker 1: about them as evidence of Day's effectiveness, and you can't
Speaker 1: tell us who they are.
Speaker 8: I listen, I'm not going to get into details you
Speaker 8: wanted to know. I'm trying to give you a lot
Speaker 8: of information here.
Speaker 9: I just don't want to overwhelm you. Dan.
Speaker 2: There's no danger of that. There's no danger for that,
Speaker 2: and nobody's buying that.
Speaker 8: Just we'll go through the whole thing.
Speaker 9: I'll come in the studio and sit down.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Well let's start here.
Speaker 1: So you've told us it's dollars raised, but you can't
Speaker 1: tell us how much or where it's been spent. You've
Speaker 1: told us it's it's hiring new consultants, but you can't
Speaker 1: tell us who they are.
Speaker 8: That you asked me for.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's details, because I I.
Speaker 1: Want direct responses. I don't want dancing. If I wanted dancing,
Speaker 1: i'd call my wife.
Speaker 9: So please give me the short answer.
Speaker 2: Tell me what else you got.
Speaker 9: Okay.
Speaker 8: So the consultants are out, the.
Speaker 9: Ones that we're screwing us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you won't tell us who the new ones are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well why not? I'm curious Henry Okay, Okay. So
Speaker 1: Josh is the new consultant who's been hired.
Speaker 2: No, oh, okay, they're gone. Okay, So who's that? Okay?
Speaker 9: And yeah, you're not in the right way.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And you know what, Brad, you you better be careful
Speaker 1: when it comes to to to making those kind of
Speaker 1: accusations against people because they are no all I'm telling you, man,
Speaker 1: all I'm telling you, I'll put them on all again
Speaker 1: because Brad's not delivering, and I'll get Brad. I'll give
Speaker 1: Brad the whole next hour to deliver. But I said,
Speaker 1: the only qualifier on this show. I'm here every day.
Speaker 1: I'll take on all comers. You can't defeme people on
Speaker 1: the show. And all I was telling to Brad I
Speaker 1: wasn't stopping him is think twice before you make allegations
Speaker 1: about certain people, think about whether they're true. And that
Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying, Brad. And if that's if that's
Speaker 1: disturbing to you, then then that's probably where you're at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me the name of the consultants.
Speaker 1: I want the name, so the I want Okay, so
Speaker 1: you can see this style right, This is very effective
Speaker 1: for the Colorado GOP. This is Dave Williams style. It
Speaker 1: just embodied by Brad here. So, Brad, what I want
Speaker 1: to know is you've told us Dave Williams has been
Speaker 1: effective raising money for the party, and you can't tell
Speaker 1: us how much and where it's been spent. You tell
Speaker 1: us he's effective because he got rid of bad consultants
Speaker 1: and brought in new consultants. But you won't tell us
Speaker 1: who the new consultants are. So keep going down the list, Brad,
Speaker 1: and I'll take the whole next hour with you. I
Speaker 1: want the best case possible for why Dave Williams is effective.
Speaker 2: Dave.
Speaker 8: Dave actually can bring people together. Oh my lord, the
Speaker 8: underbelly of our party. The people that have been forgotten
Speaker 8: are behind Dave Williams one hundred percent, the people that
Speaker 8: the Christy Burton Brown folks shove their nose at us.
Speaker 8: Finally we have a voice.
Speaker 2: Can you give us an example of that? Give us
Speaker 2: an example. I'm giving you.
Speaker 8: The whole show twenty We have a voice. Christy Burton
Speaker 8: Brown cost us house just act forty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a voice in a story.
Speaker 8: Okay, Brad, you don't bring her name up and explain
Speaker 8: how she costs us to hell?
Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm asking you to.
Speaker 1: I am asking you for details. So let's start with this, okay,
Speaker 1: because I've known her since she was nineteen, working her
Speaker 1: tail off in the trenches to save babies from being Okay,
Speaker 1: why are you like this?
Speaker 2: Brad? And you're welcome to stay the next hour.
Speaker 1: I want people to hear this, So you come back
Speaker 1: and you give me specific examples of Christy Burton Brown,
Speaker 1: who has worked her tail off in the trenches for
Speaker 1: decades to save babies from being killed.
Speaker 2: Don the really hard work instead.
Speaker 1: Of just standing out there throwing stupid bombs to try
Speaker 1: to get attention for themselves.
Speaker 2: So tell me, give us real examples. You're on the
Speaker 2: Dan Kapitla Show.