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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello. Before the episode starts, we did want to

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share that we have linked some resources for anyone affected

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by the LA fires in our show notes and that

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our hearts go out to everyone affected. The linked sources

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also include gofundmes for Latino families affected by the fires,

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as well as other resources. And I also wanted to

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add that you can find me on PNW Hunts and

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Homicides episode this week. There are podcasts about true crime

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and haunted things in the Pacific Northwest aka Washington, Oregon.

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Whatever else makes part of the PNW I don't know anyway.

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Fun fact, Guadalajara is sister cities with Portland, Oregon, and

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that is why I am on their latest episode, so

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you can check that out at PNW Hunts and Homicides.

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The link is also in the show notes. And one

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more thing, if you recall all an episode we did

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last year, we had Aiden from Susto and Lany from

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its Haunted What Now guests on an episode with us

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because we announced we were starting a podcast called Concitos

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Anonymous where we give people advice, and that is still happening.

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So if you have advice, send it to us. I

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have information in the show notes on how you can

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get that to us. But yeah, all that information is

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in the show notes and yeah, let's get onto the episode. Hello. Hello,

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this is Christina and Carmen and this is another episode

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of spookyto as a podcast for all things as boogie

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true crime in in America today just spoogie. This is

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a little bit of a different episode because one I

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didn't get a true crime story ready because we wanted

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it to be our mom's story by itself. Yeah, because

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that's what we're sharing today. We shared it last week

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where she shared it. We recorded an episode with her

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in Spanish and we translated it for or Spanish Challenge

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friends so that everyone can hear it. We want to

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include everyone in this because the story was traumatizing. It

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really was. It was scary. Yeah, yeah, honestly, up there

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top five scary stories I've heard like people sharing, you know, yeah,

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I would put it up that high. Yeah. So before

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we do that, though, we do have a very short

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listener story. And if you want to share your story

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with us, you can email a spookyo do at gmail

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dot com. You can DM it on Instagram, you can

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use the little contact us form on our website. You

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can call the Spooky Hotline. All of that is in

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the show notes or in the description if you're on YouTube.

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So yeah, all right, let's get into it. So this

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is from Selene. Selene says, I have a few years

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following you on Instagram and listening to your podcast. I

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listen when I'm cleaning or driving. Well, here's my story

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about a few weeks ago. I was on my way

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to pick up my son from basketball practice. My dad

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called me and told me that he couldn't find my daughter.

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I told him, what do you mean, I have her

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with me. He said that when he was getting out

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of the shower, my daughter knocked on the door and

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was yelling Pappy Cruse. I told him he was hearing stuff,

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So you rushed out of the bathroom, went to his

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room and finished getting dressed. But when he was doing that,

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he heard her again and told her hold on. He

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heard her again, Pippy Cruse, and heard when she ran away.

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That's when he opened the door. It didn't see anyone,

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and that's when he called me. But by this time

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I was in line picking up my son, so it

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couldn't have been my daughter. My mom sprayed holy water

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all over the house as she should, Oh my god,

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as she should, and Selene, you had to let us know.

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Is at the end of it, like did you not

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see or did no one see anything or hear anything weird?

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After that? Well, hopefully for her sake, for everyone's sake,

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it was like a one time thing. Yeah, because this

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isn't even like a normal It's like a little maintain,

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like a little ghost. This is yeah, this is a

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minute scarier, right, this is the worst kind. I agree.

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Oh that's creepy. All right, well let's get started with

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our mom's story again. It's horrifying. So I forgot to

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say this in the Spanish episode, but she does mention suicide.

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So I was listening to it this morning and I'm like,

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maybe we should have said asid about that. My bad,

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Oh my god, I can't. Sorry, you need to stop.

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First of all, Okay, it's also if you're not on video,

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this will make any sense. But Christina is making the

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hand motions of Ashley Trebino. They keep popping up on

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my for you page. People keep making this a filter

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and they're like, yeah, oh sorry, if anyone is on

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as talk, you know, you know, yeah, okay, sorry, sorry,

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all right, So yes, content warning for suicide mention of suicide.

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So let's yeah, let's just start again. Very traumatizing story.

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Truly has scared us all of our childhood, and we

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finally heard it all for the first time. Yeah, so

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it all started with our Tia, our mom's oldest sister,

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when she was Tia Ludez. Yeah it's because you know, yeah, sorry,

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I know the name. The other episode we said our

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THEA and then later on we say Tia Ludez and

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we didn't specify who it was, although I feel like

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it was clear because then Yeah, but still, you know,

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it's in the beginning. Yes, so, yeah, it all started

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with Artia Ludez, our mom's older sister. Our mom was

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around eleven, she thinks, but it's all like a blurnow. Yeah,

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I think everyone was older because she said shortly after

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Artia left the house, and I think she left already,

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not as a teen like under age teen. Oh, so

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you know what, she was very older. I think our

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mom said first she said she's eleven, and then she

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was like wait, wait, I'm getting like everything mixed up.

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I think I was like a little bit older, like

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fourteen or fifteen. This would make more sense. Yeah, this

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will make way more sense, because then I would put

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at eighteen or nineteen. Yeah, and they all used to

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live and I think we've said this many times, but

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in Guadalajara, Jalisco, and in Guadalajara they lived in this place.

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We all learned to be Lapencion. They call it lapcion.

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I don't know why. Yes, I'm not sure why. I

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forgot to ask car when we were sitting there. You

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asked me before. She's like, I don't know, we just

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called it that. Yeah, I think you're right. But it

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was pretty much a parking lot with a room with

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a small building and that building was a single room,

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and then right outside of that room was like the

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kitchen area, but it was all outside, and then there

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was an outhouse like a bathroom outside and a big,

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big tree, and it was a pretty big parking lot.

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it had a car mechanics shop in it. And then

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it also fit forty cars to be parked there. And

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they got to live there for super cheap, if not free,

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because they took care of the cars and all of that,

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or watched over them. There was always someone there to

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watch over the cars. Yeah, and so basically that was

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their job, Sash. They got to live there to do that.

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because it was just a single room. All the kids

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had bunk beds that they all like shared, except the

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oldest kid got to have like the single bottom bunk

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by themselves, and everyone else shared in his ass. As

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someone left, someone else took over that bunk. Is how

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it worked. Like they got the privilege of having room

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to sleep alone. Right, So Arthia had the bottom bunk

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and her mom had the top one. What she shared

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with someone I don't know which, sister. I want to

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say it is your Dana Avevan, but I'm not sure.

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like little small things that didn't really bug anyone, like

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oh there's a shadow during the night. Yeah, it was

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always outside, never inside the room, and usually only the

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people who were out super late saw anything. So our Alito,

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our grandpa, and then like two of her uncles, and

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that's how everything was for a very long time, the

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ones that were out there in La Pista, yes piano,

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and so yeah, this is how things were for a

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long time until one night it all changed. Sadly. Everyone

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was asleep and around two thirty three in the morning,

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our Tea lures So, who was alone in the bottom bunk,

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felt like someone sat in her bed and then like

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something was climbing on top of her, which we would

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say celesubmerto or you know, sleep paralysis, and she kept

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trying to scream, and like at first she was paralyzed,

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she couldn't scream. Finally, when she was able to scream,

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everyone woke up, and that was really it. Everyone just

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moved on. They were like, oh, no, something scared her

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at night and okay, and that was that. Yeah, and

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that was that. Things were normal again for a little bit,

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except you know, that was one single strange incident that

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happened inside for the first time. But then she left,

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you know, everyone moved on. She left to go live

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with her boyfriend. And when she left, our mom took

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that bottom bunk. It was like the oldest privilege, so

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she got to sleep in that same spot. And she's

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not sure how much time passed since she took over

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Artia Ludus's bed, her older sister's bed, but after some time,

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the same thing happened to her too, so it was

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two three in the morning. She was asleep. She felt

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someone sit on the bed next to her legs and

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then she felt numb, frozen in place, and it was

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like the numbness went like from her toes to her head,

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like it traveled, and then she was like frozen. She

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couldn't move. She heard whispers in her ear that she

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couldn't understand. Yes, thank you Carmen for that reenactment. As

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far as she as we all know, Artia didn't hear

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the whispers, just our mom. But everything else was pretty

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much the same. And this happened a few times for

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a while, and then she decided like she was going

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to do something for some reason about this the wrong thing. Well,

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and she talked about something that everyone always heard and

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or where, but she said it was like common to

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pray for like the lost souls that were in the

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purgatory and stuff like that. So it was like a

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normal belief, I guess. But nobody told her to do

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what she did next though, no, right, so you know,

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with that information she went okay, And so like what

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Karen was saying, there is a specific prayer that like

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you pray to help spirits like move on that are

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stuck in this like realm and you know, this world.

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And she was like, nah, nah, I'll do one better.

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she said, God, I know there are a lot of

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spirits out there that need help. Send one to me,

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and I will help. Wild behavior, very very wild behavior.

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mean like, I don't I don't think God would have

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like actually sent someone to her. I think this like

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this thing overheard this somehow or like this was like

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oh yeah I needed this. Oh finally someone. Yes. Yeah.

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somehow the family got they got a Wigi board. She

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doesn't remember how it ended up with them. Maybe someone

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gifted it to our and everyone used to sit around

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and use it together like a family activity. And it

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even became like an extended family like literally everyone. Yeah. Yeah,

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like board game night, but with the Wiji board game night. Yes, yeah.

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Weirdly enough, the punch it only moves when our mom

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was touching it or ar theia that had moved out. Yeah,

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the only two people that slept in that bottom Bunk,

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the only two people that had really prouds this incident. Yes,

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so already like not the signs are pointing to something

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not good. Yes. Eventually the board told them its name

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was Danny, and it also revealed that it was in

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love with Arthia at some point, the one that didn't

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live there anymore. And they all thought if they kept

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using the board Luigi board, it would help them get

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rid of this entity that was coming at night and

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hunting her mom, so then she could finally rest. And

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by this point it was happening every night, the sleep paralysis,

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her waking up screaming and like nobody was sleeping. So

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they kept bringing the board back out and Danny the

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board would tell them. It would give them like instructions,

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like how to get rid of it, and so it said,

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like to be at rest, I need you our mom

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to walk out to the mango tree that's in the

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property and dig. And our grandpa had to be standing

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in the doorway and watching her, but he couldn't go

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with her. She had to go by herself. And then

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she had to go dig until she found the spirit's bones.

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like a cemetery instead of under this tree, it could

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finally be at rest. And also that's where it was

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coming from every night. Yeah, yeah, that's where you lived. Basically. Yes,

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our mom would hear the footsteps coming from the tree

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into the room. Then next to her bed is where

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they stopped. And it wasn't just footsteps. She would hear

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crying moans all all the way from the tree to

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her bed. And the crying wasn't it wasn't normal crying.

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It was like, what is the word ethereal? I don't

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know if that's the right word. I feel like ethereal

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means like heavenly to me all least, I don't know

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that's the opposite of ethereal. Yeah, so like like a

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voice or sound that's out of this world, not a

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human voice, but not not ethereal, because that's again that's

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keaviline like hell like hell, I guess yeah, yes, yeah,

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I don't know if you're gonna mention this later. But

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when they at first, they didn't know what this spirit wanted,

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and it couldn't really communicate at first, right, it would

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just like like one word here or there, like help

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aluyah Oh, I didn't even say words at this point. Okay,

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so then it was the Wiji when they were using

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the Wiji board that they already knew what they needed

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to do. It told them on the Wiji board. Yes,

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the Wii board was timing them, yeah, but not Yeah,

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that's how they were getting all this information that I

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remember that. Yeah, all of that was coming from the

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board when they used it. So can you imagine sitting

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there just waiting for all of that to spell out?

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I know that's why I'm like, that doesn't sound right,

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that's so long. But I mean there was plenty of

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people to take notes. Yeah, that's true, you know. So

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she heard this every night and they would stay there

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crying into her ear until like five in the morning,

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like all night. Yeah, so she wasn't sleeping, Yeah, she

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wasn't sleeping. Some nights, instead of standing next to her

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and crying, Celesubia got on top of her, and this

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is when the sleeper loss has happened, and then it

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was just like crying, making like ghostly creepy ass sounds there.

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Other times she would hear steps and then it would

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stop in front of her and then she could just

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feel it staring at her all night. And that's it,

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and just that sensation like when it did whisper, cry

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and moan. She knew it was next to her, but

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she could hear it like inside of her ear, like

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like even better than ear wearing earbuds the way like

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I pictured it, like bat is that a word? Yes,

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not saying that word right, but you know what I'm saying, right,

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I know the word you're trying to say for ptating,

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but that sounds like there's too many letters in the

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riverb reverbating. No, you know what we're trying to say. Yeah, yeah,

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but yeah, that's what I pictured too. So worse, Just

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every little bit of this was worse, but yeah, like

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an echo in her ear. And a neighbor of theirs,

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who was very spiritual, told her mom that she had

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to ask the entity what do you want? Because once

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she could ask it, what do you want, it's the

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entity itself when it came to her, then maybe they

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could get a better insight of how to get rid

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of it. But the problem was that she couldn't ask

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because you couldn't move when it was there. She was frozen.

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She couldn't open her mouth to say any words. Nothing.

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The neighbor told her to do it in her mind

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and then she could find out what it wanted and

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get rid of it. But she was sure if she

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wanted to do that, because then I wouldn't I don't

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know like I would, I wouldn't want to do it. Yeah, no, meither.

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So she went to her grandma Mibela and told her

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what the neighbor had said. And Mibella asked her, like,

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do you have some boyfriend that killed himself or something,

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because he might be trying to force you to join them.

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But our mom didn't like this, couldn't be anyone that

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she knew hunting her. Mabella also told her, like, you

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can do what the neighbor said about asking what it wants,

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but if you do that, there's no going back. You're

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no longer going to hear into un intelligible whispers. You're

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going to hear every word that it's seeing. Clearly, from

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that point on, you have to be very careful if

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you do this, because some entities are only hunting you

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this much because they want you to take their place

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where they are so they can save themselves from being stuck,

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so they can move on. And this is like something

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that is like a Chadro negro you know. Yes. When

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she mentioned that part, I immediately thought of a chad

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On Negro. Yes, And so our mom didn't know what

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to do anymore. She wasn't sleeping, she was losing weight.

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Her dark circle dark circles, like her under eye, it

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was permanently dark. She was desperate. She didn't want to

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go through this anymore. She had even told me Bella

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that she wanted to die because she was so, so,

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so tired and so scared. She dreaded nighttime every day,

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and this night after she left me Belace was no different.

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She laid down to try and sleep, and at some point,

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like every single night, she heard the footsteps coming from

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the tree, eleanto, the cry. Then it this time there

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was chains dragging along worse like every yeah, yeah, so

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now yeah, there's the sound of chains dragging on the

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ground along with the cry, the wailing. She took the breast,

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waiting for it to get to her bed, and when

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it did, in her mind she asked, what do you want?

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And then she heard it clearly say for the first time, hallelujah. Disturbing,

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very disturbing. I almost threw up when I heard it,

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was like, what do you mean that's the first thing

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it said, horrifine, It told her Hallelujah help me, Hallelujah

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help me. It could only say those words. So from

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then on, every single night she would hear the same

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thing coming from the tree, footsteps chains, crying Hallelujah help me,

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Hallelujah help me. But it wasn't even like like the

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way she's she told us. It wasn't like a normal

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Hallelujah helped me. It was like a crying saying the

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words like like wal that way. Yes, yeah, so worse, worse,

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all of it. Yeah, our grandpa decided to go to

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the church to ask for help because, like again, nobody

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was resting at this point, everybody was worried about her.

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She was keeping everyone up. Yeah. Yeah. The priest he

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spoke to was a younger priest, and that priest told

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him the first thing that needed to be done was

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getting rid of that ouijipord, but like actually getting rid

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of it, not just throwing it away, like destroying it.

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And so our grandpa when he got back from the church,

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she told her mom to go and tell them what

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was happening to her, to like get more help, more advice,

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so she did, but unfortunately for her, it wasn't the

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same young priest when she went. It was some old

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geezer yeah, old prick. Yeah. And so when she told

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this priest what was happened to her, the only being

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this priest for Washa, tell me your sins. And she

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said everything again, like please, I don't know what to do.

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I'm not sleeping, no one in my family's sleeping. And

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he said again, tell me your sins. And she's like,

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oh my god, I'm being haunted. Yes, this exchange I

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had been warmer time where he was like, tell me

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your sins, and she was like, please, I need your help.

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I need you to come to my house and help

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us get rid of this, Like help us, please, I

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can't sleep, I can't eat, I can't do this anymore. Please,

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And the father was silent, and then my mom just

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watched us. He left the confessional. What kind of shit

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is that? It remind me of what is the other

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book by that we read? Oh my god, yes, Senda

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when she goes to the church for help because she's

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being haunted. And of course the old priest is like,

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if I hear you talk like that again, name bullshit.

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I thought of that too. Yeah, so we'll just do

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what that young said, We'll get rid of the board.

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Only he didn't do that exactly because again he was

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supposed to destroy it physically anyway that they could, and

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he just threw it away. So when he threw it away,

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it came back. It just appeared under our mom's bed.

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And by this point, the board was telling everyone that

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it was in love with Artha and it was also

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doing things to people. Yeah, the husband of our mom's

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aunt was over and again everyone at one point came

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over to look at the board and yeah, like we said,

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it was an extended family activity at this point, and he,

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you know, while they were all using it, he said

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to the Luigi board, you think I believe in you.

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You're just stupid, bored. You're not real. You're not real.

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And the board replied, wait until tonight. I'm gonna pull

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your legs. I would have shited my pants, I would

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have thrown up. Yeah. Yeah. So one week later, this

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uncle goes back to the house and tells him you

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need to get rid of that board because for the

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whole week he had not been able to sleep. Something

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was pulling his legs. Yep, and pulling his blanket off.

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So yeah, he wasn't the only one having experiences with

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the board either. Also didn't believe in the board back then,

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and the board would tell them like, I am showing

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you respect because you are Ludus' mom, and he the

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board was in love yeah, and told the board, okay,

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if you're real, do something to show we and the

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board spelled out like, look at Mono. And Mono is

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another nephew who was around three at the time and

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also happened to be the three year old son of

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that same uncle. Those legs were pulled. Yeah, so everyone,

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because again everyone came over to do this with the board.

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So everyone turned to look at poor Mono, and Mono

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was just standing there and suddenly he fell. But it

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wasn't a normal fall. He felt like he was flipped

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over like a cartoon yeap, like when the cartoons slip

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on a banana slip. That is how he fell, Yes,

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and he hit the floor and obviously started crying because yeah,

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he didn't deserve it, Oh my god, did no very somehow,

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our grandma still was like I don't know, I still

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don't believe. Then the board said look at the table,

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and so again. They all turned to look at the

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table and all the dishes were standing up on their own,

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but not because I mean some dishes do stand on

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their own like a bowl it can stand. No, they

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were like on their side stand. Yeah, so exactly like that.

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So finally thought was like, no, we need to get

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rid of this Ouiji board and oh no, this is

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I guess he didn't get rid of it right away. Yeah,

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this is when he tried to throw it away and

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it came back. Oh yeah, yeah, So Ablita decided to

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finally get rid of the board like he like he

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should have, but he didn't do it the way the

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priest said to do it, because the priest again said

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destroy the thing, do whatever you can to destroy it.

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And our Alito put it in a bag, took that

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bag out to the sidewalk to make sure that, you know,

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it was out there to hand to like the Tresh people.

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The next day and the next night the board was

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back under our mom's bed m hm. And then for

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some reason they decided to keep using it after they

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came back. I don't know why. This is the point

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in the movie where we started shouting at everybody. You're like,

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what the fuck are you doing yes, yes, And when

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they used it again, the board told them you dare

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throw me away again? And our grandpa told the board, like,

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you know, he was like, look, Danny, you're in love

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with someone you can't be in love with. You don't

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belong here. And Danny, the Wuiji board replied, then why

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did you bring me? And our Abito ended up burning

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the board and then burning it and burning it and

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burning it until like there was nothing there whatever it

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was left like he went to who knows how far

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to leave it somewhere, and it didn't return this time.

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So now the board was gone and had already told

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them what needed to be done, that our mom needed

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to go out during the night dig up the bones

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with the entity next to her, but nobody wanted to

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do that, like who would want to do that? So

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they were trying other things whatever they could at this point,

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and uncle gave our mom his rosary that he wore

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every day because he swore that it protected him from

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all evil, and so she, you know, would wear that

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other times. They tried to keep the Bible open during

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the night. They tried putting the open pairs and open

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pair of scissors under her bed, so they were trying

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all these things, but nothing was working, and Miblla, our

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mom's grandma, told her that she needed to get angry

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and kick the entity out, otherwise it would never leave

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because it knew that our mom could hear it and

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knew that it was getting to her and that it

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kept doing If it kept doing this, it would get

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what it wanted, which was probably for our mom to

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die and for her to take its place, yeah, and

471
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,000
save itself. So these just things were getting worse. Whenever

472
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,000
she managed to get any sleep at all, she had

473
00:26:24,079 --> 00:26:27,240
this dream, and this dream was always the same. She

474
00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:30,359
would get to this house and when she arrived, the

475
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,279
house was always on fire, and then the door, the

476
00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:36,359
front door would open and there would be this like

477
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,079
charred figure of a person standing in the doorway. And

478
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,240
the first time she had this dream was also the

479
00:26:44,279 --> 00:26:49,599
first time that she saw the entity because she's walking

480
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,440
toward the door and her dream the entity opened the door,

481
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,440
and so they were face to face at this point,

482
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,960
and she could see into its eyes, but everything else

483
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,559
it was too burned to make out any facial details

484
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,200
or anything. But she said that in its eyes she

485
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,440
could send this deep sadness and that it probably died

486
00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:13,039
a horrible death. Who knows if there were others in

487
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:18,680
this house that was burning that also died with this entity.

488
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,400
And her mom just felt like this deep sadness for

489
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,119
this thing that was haunting her. Yeah, she told it

490
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,039
in her dream that she couldn't help it, and she

491
00:27:29,079 --> 00:27:31,559
was so sorry but she couldn't help. And she really

492
00:27:31,559 --> 00:27:34,079
felt bad that she couldn't help. Yeah, because she's a

493
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,839
better person than I. I'd be like, buck, you, I

494
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,359
can't help you, bet, give right off, you get the

495
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,480
fuck out. But no, she felt so bad she couldn't help,

496
00:27:43,599 --> 00:27:46,839
and she felt so bad that she felt mean, getting

497
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,039
angry at it and telling it to leave. Yeah, like

498
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,119
Mabel I had told her to do so, and she

499
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,920
couldn't do it. Alita would tell her, well, hey, why

500
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,839
don't we just do what the board said and maybe

501
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,519
we'll find some gold. They had heard of a girl

502
00:28:01,599 --> 00:28:04,559
back in Rancho, where he's from, who found gold like that,

503
00:28:04,759 --> 00:28:08,240
but she lost her mind and she was being kept

504
00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:10,480
tied to a bed, so they didn't really want to

505
00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:16,920
do that. Was it really an option? Yeah? So yeah,

506
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,559
it's the girl's parents had the gold, but they lost

507
00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:22,319
their daughter. So yeah, our mom didn't want to do that,

508
00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:25,200
but something needed to be done because the situation was

509
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,720
only getting worse. Maybe, I kept telling her, when you

510
00:28:28,759 --> 00:28:30,759
hear the spirit next to you, set up and yell

511
00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:33,480
at it, tell it to leave, and tell it this phrase,

512
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,319
which means leave because I'm busy with the people who

513
00:28:40,359 --> 00:28:43,079
baptize my child. I had never heard this phrase before

514
00:28:43,519 --> 00:28:46,400
me neither. I'm curious to know if other people have

515
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,880
heard it, Please let us know. Yeah, I had no

516
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,640
idea it was a thing until I'm like, is this

517
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,519
aial thing? Or is this like she said it was

518
00:28:53,519 --> 00:28:56,319
a thing. That's true she did. Maybe that's why we

519
00:28:56,319 --> 00:29:02,160
don't know. But is it like just stretch shows? Yeah? Yeah.

520
00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:04,640
Our mom was confused on how this would even work,

521
00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:08,440
since she wasn't anyone's commande de pilla or had any kids,

522
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,839
but she was willing to do it because things were

523
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,079
even worse. There were several nights that a different sibling

524
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,200
would find her sleep walking toward the mango tree, and

525
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,519
at least two or three times she could see marks

526
00:29:20,519 --> 00:29:23,000
on her wrist as if someone had been grabbing her

527
00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:26,559
very hard. And that's wild because things were like now,

528
00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:31,200
like there was like physical evidence of the content like

529
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,119
it was escalating obviously, Yes, that's exactly what I was

530
00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:37,079
gonna say. At every point it was escalating. Yeah, yeah

531
00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:42,799
again worse yes, yeah. So the neighbor that the spiritual

532
00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:45,319
neighbor that we mentioned earlier, told them that the spirit

533
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,839
was physically taking her to the place where it died

534
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,400
so she could stay there and it could leave. And

535
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,119
even her dreams were changing. Some nights, during the little

536
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,839
sleep that she got, she dreamt that she was walking

537
00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,319
toward mountains. Behind the mountains there were gray clouds, and

538
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:03,559
in her dream she knew she had to get past mountains,

539
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,119
and the voice kept telling her to keep going. When

540
00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:09,079
she started having this dream, the entity started placing its

541
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:14,279
hand on her head. Nah, and she could feel it. Yeah.

542
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,160
When she felt the hand on her head, that's when

543
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,359
she started walking. She would feel herself getting tired, but

544
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,599
the voice urged her on, you're almost there, keep going. Go.

545
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,720
While she walked in her dreams, she walked in real life,

546
00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:28,920
so this was when she was sleepwalking. That's when her

547
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,240
siblings would have to bring her back to the room

548
00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:33,759
after finding her walking to the Maingu tree. There were

549
00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:35,559
a couple of times she woke up on her own

550
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,559
sitting by the table outside, but the last thing she

551
00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:42,200
remembered was falling asleep in her bed. Another time, when

552
00:30:42,279 --> 00:30:44,319
one of her brothers tried to wake her up to

553
00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:46,359
get her back to bed, he felt like he was

554
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,480
being pushed away by an unseen force. So something was

555
00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:52,200
really trying to take her yeah, yeah, and trying to

556
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,759
stop others trying to stop her from leaving. So things

557
00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:59,119
like that continued to happen, and Alita finally said, let's

558
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:01,559
try something else. This time, she had her mom wear

559
00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:04,279
the rosary from her uncle. They placed the open bible

560
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,200
next to her and the pair of open scissors under

561
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,559
her bed all the same time, because before this they

562
00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:12,559
tried all these things separately. What what did we talk

563
00:31:12,599 --> 00:31:15,759
about it? Before that there was about the open the

564
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,440
putting the scissors, do you remember. Yeah, so that's what

565
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:24,000
they say stops Brukas from getting because you know, like

566
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,799
the according to legend, like we know, yeah, not all

567
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,400
bluecas right like hashtag now all bluecass. Yeah, but the

568
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,680
legends say that they like to suck newborns run LIKECI

569
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:39,799
is an example. But it's like not just that, it's

570
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,680
all the Ruka legends really like to take newborns, so

571
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,680
people would place open scissors under the newborn's crib to

572
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,759
stop the bluecass and then, like according to legend, you

573
00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:55,480
would find the cut tongue of brua who's trying to

574
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,759
suck the blood, because that's what the scissors do. They

575
00:31:57,799 --> 00:31:59,640
would find it the next day on the crib of

576
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,720
the baby. So they tried everything all the same time,

577
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,359
and that night she could hear it again, the footsteps,

578
00:32:05,599 --> 00:32:09,599
the crying, the hallelujah helped me the chains, but it

579
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,119
didn't come in. It stopped at the door. She heard

580
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,400
as the entity turned around and whiled its way back

581
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,400
to the tree. But it was a cry worse than

582
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,240
she had ever heard before. It was horrible because it

583
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:22,599
was upset this time. Yeah, so that night it went

584
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,240
back to the tree and cried, and she felt terrible

585
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:27,359
the next day, like it was all her fault and

586
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,680
like she had caused this entity pain and that she

587
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,119
had made a cry. And at this point she didn't

588
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,039
realize it, but she was more gone than present, so

589
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,440
like she was more over there in that world than here,

590
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:44,160
more dead than alive. Yeah, she thought maybe the entity

591
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,000
really did want to be friends. So that night, without

592
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:50,039
telling anyone. She removed all of the prior protection, so

593
00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:52,960
the rosary, the Bible, the scissors, and that night the

594
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,400
spirit was able to enter. That night, as she started

595
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,240
to get up and sleepwalk, a A. Wulito asked her

596
00:32:58,279 --> 00:33:01,160
where she was going. He always stayed awake as late

597
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,119
as he could to try and stop her from sleepwalking

598
00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:06,880
half asleep. She replied, it's because it's here. It's already inside.

599
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,240
This happened just as he turned the light off. When

600
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,119
she said that, he said, where is he? Tell me

601
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,240
where the motherfucker is? Where is he? She told him

602
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:19,720
he's next to you. But as she said that, the

603
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,440
entity went behind within seconds. This was one of the

604
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,440
only times she saw the full shape or outline of it.

605
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,000
And she said, it's next to you. No, it's behind you.

606
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,279
And he said, can you just picture that? Oh my god,

607
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,440
that's terrible. So you know, behind you? Oh my god.

608
00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:41,759
So he was scared. Yeah, and he sat on the

609
00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:44,880
bed holding his chats and he's like, oh fuck, oh fuck,

610
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:52,160
don't leave to please. Oh my god. I would be too.

611
00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:54,880
I would be too. Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'll be crying.

612
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:58,599
I'm scared right now. And I already heard this after

613
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,480
it more than yeah, after this happened, she finally said, no,

614
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,440
this is too much, and she decided to do all

615
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,079
the things they had done on the night you couldn't

616
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:10,119
come inside, the rosary, the scissors, and the open Bible.

617
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,760
And the next morning our ablitos were talking to each

618
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,559
other wondering why it was able to come inside, and

619
00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:18,719
that's when our mom came clean and said that she

620
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,280
removed all the things because she felt bad, and our

621
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,679
alito was like, you can't feel like that with the dead.

622
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,679
You can't feel bad for them. With these kind of spirits,

623
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,320
there's no way of knowing if they're good or bad.

624
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,840
So you had to stay far away. And that makes

625
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,800
sense because like maybe this thing was putting on this

626
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,880
show and wield all its way back because it wasn't

627
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,159
getting its way, you know, well probably that's why. Yeah, yeah,

628
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,320
So once they put all those things back, the entity

629
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,760
was not able to enter the room. But now it

630
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,000
stood outside at the wall where arm that's terrifying, well,

631
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,840
where our mom's yeah, bed was, and it would call

632
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,199
her by her name, so now it could say more things, Yeah,

633
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:02,039
you do ned her name, yeah, And she could hear

634
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:04,639
it all the way from the tree to the wall,

635
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:10,159
crying out, Acelli, clemency, help do just that? Get it again?

636
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,639
And it's I don't know, it's scarier in Spanish, Clementia,

637
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,480
are you that it really is? It really is scarier

638
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:22,880
in Spanish, like even when she first told us, like, adelujah,

639
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:28,440
are you? I think it's the alliteration. I think so alujah.

640
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,800
It's so oh my god, can you imagine fucking hearing that?

641
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:38,599
I would have killed myself? Yeah, I'm going to survive

642
00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:52,280
this long. Yeah. So her parents are grandparents, decided to

643
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,880
send her mom to Mama Juanita, her paternal grandmother, for

644
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,000
a week or two, all of a sudden, thinking that

645
00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:00,840
maybe this is in her head sudden even though there

646
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,199
was as yeah, no, of course, everyone was desperate. Yeah,

647
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,320
And once she was there, she was able to get

648
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,159
the best sleep of her life, well since the last

649
00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:13,360
past nine months, however long this thing had been going

650
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,559
on for and nothing happened to her while she was

651
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:18,960
at Mama Juanita's. While she was gone, her oldest brother

652
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,719
Artio said, Heio came back home super late, you know,

653
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,719
and them a na pista as he did. This was normal, typical, yes,

654
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,960
and he usually slept outside with the blanket in the

655
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:31,039
kitchen when it was really late, like he woudn't even

656
00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:33,039
come inside, and that night he thought it would be

657
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,119
oh my god, I can't so he thought it would

658
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:37,280
be funny to use our mom's blanket to try and

659
00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:40,239
trick the entity, and he heard the same sounds that

660
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,679
she heard every night, but he didn't stick around to

661
00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:45,119
see what would happen. He left to sleep at a

662
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:47,880
friend's house. He said fuck this, and as he was

663
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,880
running out of the house, the dishes the chairs at

664
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,599
the table were all moved around. For a while, the

665
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,280
entity was pissed when she finally went back home after

666
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,960
that week a week and a half, the entity came

667
00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:02,360
coming to her during the night, but it never went

668
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,400
back inside. Then it must have realized he wasn't gonna

669
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,039
be able to haunt her anymore, because slowly, over time

670
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:10,239
he stopped coming. But because she was so used to

671
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,159
living like this, she wasn't fully happy it was over.

672
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,000
She was sad, and she felt terrible about forcing the

673
00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:18,960
entity away. Even though the haunting seemed over, her sleep

674
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,639
and health didn't recover. Now. She laid awake at night

675
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,880
feeling lonely because as terrifying as it was the entity

676
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,280
had been her company during those sleepless nights. At this point,

677
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,800
she was feeling suicidal, like she didn't want to live anymore,

678
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,079
and she even tried to die by suicide twice, but

679
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:41,760
both attempts failed. Man Finally, after some time, she reacted

680
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,360
and realized this had to stop, and she said aloud,

681
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,079
I don't know where you are anymore, but I can't

682
00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:49,599
help you. I'm sorry. I can't be the one to

683
00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:52,280
help you move on. Maybe somedays someone else will be

684
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,679
able to do that, to do what I couldn't, but

685
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,320
it isn't me. I hope you find peace. And with

686
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,920
that she was able to start living again. More time passed,

687
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:03,719
things were almost normal again. Our mom didn't sleep in

688
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,280
that bottom bunk anymore. She was in the top bunk

689
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,719
with another sister, Artiana Ben, who for some strange reason,

690
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,679
really wanted to go out and see the morning star,

691
00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:15,760
which is planet Venus, and you can see it just

692
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,320
before dawn. Best one night's leaving, but it's not quite

693
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,360
dawn like dusk, and our mom told her don't go

694
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,800
out there, it's still dark. It's still out there. It

695
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,719
finally left me alone, but if you go out there

696
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,079
where it lives in the tree, it might latch onto

697
00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:31,880
you next It's still there. And she knew this because

698
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,159
once in a while she still had dreams about the tree.

699
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,800
She was no longer walking toward it or toward mountains,

700
00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:40,320
and the entity wasn't visibly there. It was just a tree.

701
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,440
But she took that as a sign that was still there.

702
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,480
But Urthiana Ben didn't listen. And as soon as she

703
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:47,599
went out out there to look at the morning Star,

704
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:52,480
she came back inside screaming, screaming, crying, throwing it up,

705
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,760
fell to her knees in lapentune truly because she was

706
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,400
passing out, just on a breadge of passing out. Yeah,

707
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,880
she did actually fall to her knees. We meant that

708
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,920
quite literally. And so everyone woke up when our came

709
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,320
back and throwing up, screaming, crying, and our abaity to

710
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,639
turn the light on. And when our Da finally calmed down,

711
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,800
she told them that while she was out there trying

712
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,679
to find the morning Star, the shadow of the entity

713
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:21,440
was standing by the mango tree and it might have

714
00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:25,320
said something to her in this, you know instance, And

715
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,880
so she ran back inside screaming and our wady to

716
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,639
told her, like, don't go back out there again, not

717
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,519
during the night, unless you have to go to the bathroom,

718
00:39:32,559 --> 00:39:36,280
like nobody go out there. Yeah, and even if you

719
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,159
go to the bathroom, it needs to be quick as

720
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,960
quickly as possible, like they had finally gotten rid of

721
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,199
this entity, and I were going back out there, like

722
00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:48,239
no one wants it back. Yeah. And even though our

723
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,800
Tiana didn't see it again, she was traumatized. She would

724
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,360
wake up screaming, or she would she would try to

725
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,880
literally sleep on top of her mom, like using her

726
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,480
as a pillow. Yeah, Or she would run to our

727
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:04,079
grandparents bed, and then from there she would yellow Araceli,

728
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,400
which terrified her mom because it reminded her of when

729
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,840
the entity would say her name. Yeah, yeah, yes, So

730
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,559
she was just out here making everything worse. And then

731
00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:19,599
like our mom couldn't sleep because of how Artia was

732
00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:24,039
like sleeping on her or calling to her, and our

733
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:27,280
mom needed her sleep, like after so much time of

734
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,039
not sleeping. She would tell Aralitos her parents, like, please

735
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:34,000
make her stop. It's reminded me too much of the

736
00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:37,239
entity when she's calling out for me at night, And yeah, understandably,

737
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,519
so Luckily for Artiana Belle, she didn't seem to have

738
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:42,360
seen it again. It was just a one time thing,

739
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,679
and really no one saw it again, not that much

740
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:53,000
years past. They all left this nightmare behind. At this point,

741
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,440
our mom left Mexico for the US. Well, was she

742
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,079
twenty one, twenty two something like that, something like that,

743
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:05,000
and you know that's where we were born, like a

744
00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:07,719
year after or something like that. I Will eat That

745
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,400
came to visit when we were four years old, so

746
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:14,480
like late nineteen nineties at this point. Yeah, and this

747
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:17,519
is like years years, years after this whole or deal

748
00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:20,360
that or Mom went through when she was visiting. Or

749
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,639
I Will Eat That told her mom that they heard

750
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,719
the entity. Her and A Willita heard it at night.

751
00:41:28,039 --> 00:41:32,679
They were asleep when they just heard. So, Yo, why

752
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,480
do you like that to scare you? You scare me?

753
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,000
I know that was my goal? Damn wow, got me?

754
00:41:40,559 --> 00:41:46,079
Got me there, You got me. And neither one of

755
00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:49,880
them could move when this was happening, and in her dreams,

756
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,159
or I Will eat That could finally see what our

757
00:41:52,199 --> 00:41:54,760
mom was talking about all those years ago, the charred

758
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,679
figure of what was once a person. It also told

759
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,480
them in that same dream that they were both having

760
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,920
it at the same time that it had been burned. Yeah, insane.

761
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,639
That's how you know, like it's real and it's not

762
00:42:06,679 --> 00:42:09,239
just you when someone else is experiencing the same thing.

763
00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:11,519
And it said to them that it had been burned.

764
00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:15,320
But then it just left and that was that. It's

765
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,239
like it just wanted to say, hey, I'm still here.

766
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,639
I did. I guess that's literally almost word for word. Yeah.

767
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,199
Time passed. With money pulled together from siblings. Now in

768
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,360
the US, they were able to get a house built

769
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,840
for Lios and so finally they left what we called Lapenzion,

770
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,239
that little room in a parking lot, but they lived

771
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,840
there for years, literal years into a very I mean,

772
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,159
like I think it's a very nice house. Yeah, I

773
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:46,280
think so too. Yeah, and yeah, everyone left Lapentzion ten

774
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,760
to fifteen years after all this. Now we're around two

775
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,920
thousand and seven. In between two thousand and seven and

776
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,079
twenty eleven, our Abulo ran into the brother of one

777
00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:00,599
of the owners of Lapenzion, that little room, and the

778
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:04,679
brother had just moved in there momentarily and he had

779
00:43:04,679 --> 00:43:08,760
been hearing the entity, so it was still there. Yeah,

780
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,000
But then he left the building is. I want to say,

781
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,199
it's probably still there. We saw it in the mid

782
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,000
two thousands. Probably our mom saw it again around two

783
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,679
thousand and sixteen fifteen around there, yeah, one of those

784
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:26,519
two years, because when she went back to Mexico for

785
00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:29,159
the first time, she went to go see this little

786
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,480
room for the first time where you know, she grew up,

787
00:43:31,639 --> 00:43:34,280
and she didn't see or hear the entity, but she

788
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,880
could sense that it was still there, like she had

789
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,280
this feeling that it had not gone. But again they

790
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,320
didn't see it again. So honestly, it probably is still there,

791
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,360
and who knows how long it has been there, because

792
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,880
then our mom also told us that this part of

793
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:54,079
Guadalajara way back when used to be this sassienda owned

794
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:57,280
by some person named El Major that's what they called him.

795
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,119
And this is all like a past orally. I don't

796
00:44:01,159 --> 00:44:04,119
think there's any documentation of this, but this is just

797
00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:07,559
what they had all been told that El Mayord owned

798
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:12,679
this huge scienda that covered where they lived in a

799
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,159
pension all the way to this other neighborhood. What's it called.

800
00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:18,519
Do you remember? I don't remember all the top of

801
00:44:18,519 --> 00:44:21,920
my head in front of maybe I don't remember the neighborhood.

802
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,639
But this huge part of this around there, it's around

803
00:44:25,679 --> 00:44:28,719
the stadium, right, yes, because that's what they call it.

804
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:33,760
I can't even say that infna inferna be yeah. Yeah,

805
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,000
And so el Mayor used to, you know, as most

806
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:42,360
owners did, mistreat you know, the workers and you know,

807
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,639
kill them and then bury them in that same land.

808
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,480
And like nobody knows how many people were killed during

809
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,159
this time and then just buried there. And everyone that

810
00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:54,119
lives in this neighborhood has you know, weird paranormal experiences

811
00:44:54,159 --> 00:44:58,239
like things turning off on and off on their own footsteps, sounds,

812
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,760
and at some point there was a fire in this

813
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,280
ascienda and so she thinks it could all be related

814
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,239
to this. And if that is the case, this thing

815
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,440
has been there for a long long time. Yes. The

816
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,039
wild thing is that her mom still feels sad about

817
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:18,079
how long the entity has been there and that she

818
00:45:18,119 --> 00:45:21,519
couldn't help it. Yeah, but yeah, that is the hunting

819
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:27,159
of Maria. What a ride that was, right, What a journey.

820
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,800
I I was very glad to hear the whole full

821
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,400
story because there was so many parts to it that

822
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:38,519
we hadn't heard. But also like just hearing it. It's

823
00:45:38,679 --> 00:45:40,800
I get scared. It's like this should be a movie,

824
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,559
and knowing I have copywriter The Hunting of Maria and

825
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:47,880
I'm just kidding, no, but it really is such an impactful,

826
00:45:48,519 --> 00:45:55,079
scary story, like I ImpACTA I have has affected me emotionally,

827
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,599
and we've heard like bits and pieces all of our

828
00:45:57,639 --> 00:46:01,719
lives of this. And yeah, you know, our mom is

829
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:05,440
a spooky lady and our dad is a spooky spooky guy.

830
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,599
That's where we got our spookiness from. So that, yeah,

831
00:46:08,639 --> 00:46:11,400
that is why we need to leave. He's actually all

832
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,480
three of them will actually they see things, and thankfully

833
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:19,440
we don't. Don't skip us. I'm grateful, grateful for that. Yeah,

834
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,199
and was it? I think it was Stephanie. When we're

835
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,880
chatting with her, she was like, it might just be blogged,

836
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,679
and I don't want to keep it blocked, keep it blocked.

837
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:33,519
I'm not trying to more that chakra. No, thank you, no,

838
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,599
thank you. But yeah, that brings us to the end

839
00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:41,079
of this episode. And before we go, we're just gonna

840
00:46:41,079 --> 00:46:42,480
take a little out of break and then come back

841
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:51,199
with spooky recommendations. And we're back. Carmen, do you have

842
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:55,079
spooky recommendations? I don't think so. I think since the

843
00:46:55,119 --> 00:46:57,519
last time we recorded, I mentioned that I started listening

844
00:46:57,559 --> 00:47:03,239
to The Reformatory by Nana Reeve Do Yes, But I

845
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:04,920
feel like we talked about it because I was your

846
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,880
speaker re comminiation last time, because you had finished it. Anyway,

847
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,400
I now finished it, and I also loved it five

848
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,400
out of five truly amazing, so good. And I think

849
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,519
we both listened to the audiobook and the another narrator

850
00:47:19,679 --> 00:47:22,920
was so good at all the different accents. I'm like,

851
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,760
how is she doing this right? So good? And you know,

852
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,880
I feel like our mom reminds us, reminds me a

853
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,480
lot about Robert, the main character, because he feels also

854
00:47:32,639 --> 00:47:38,480
bad for the Haints or the spirits at one point,

855
00:47:38,679 --> 00:47:41,519
like there was one reason I don't like listening to audio,

856
00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:43,639
or one thing I don't like about audiobooks is that

857
00:47:43,679 --> 00:47:48,800
I can like highlight a quote, you know, and so true. Yeah,

858
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,039
And I kind of remember, just at the top of

859
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:52,639
my head, like there was like something in the book

860
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,920
that he's like thinking. He's like, maybe maybe they just

861
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,280
wanted someone to witness them or witness their death or

862
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,400
acknowledge their death something like that. And I feel like

863
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,760
as our mom was telling us, like the full story

864
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:09,119
of her haunting, that was like one thing that I

865
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:11,760
kind of like stood out, Like I feel like because

866
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,280
of her deep and it's the thing I feel like,

867
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,760
I've heard a lot of people that are very in

868
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,199
tune to the spiritual side that they have. Like not

869
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,280
to say we're not empathetic people, because I do feel

870
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,960
like I am, but anyway, that's what they're like on

871
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:30,599
another level. Yeah, like people with this ability are deeply empathetic.

872
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,639
And as our mom was telling us this story, like

873
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:37,239
even now to this day, like you can feel the

874
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:42,159
empathy she has still has for that spirit because they're stuck.

875
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:45,760
If you know Spanish, please that is the way to

876
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,119
hear this story, because yeah, you can hear her always

877
00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:52,400
crying in some parts. Yeah, just how bad you about it?

878
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,639
I'm like, man, this is crazy. This thing is terrorizing you. Yeah,

879
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,599
but yeah, it reminded me of the main character. I

880
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:02,679
can't believe I don't even make that connection because you

881
00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:05,000
were so you were so right for making that kind

882
00:49:05,039 --> 00:49:07,079
of so spot on. And yeah, it was like a

883
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:08,960
thing that stood out for me stood out to me

884
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,760
from the book too, like the way that the ghosts

885
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,920
are represented and things like that. Yeah, yeah, it really

886
00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:20,079
was such a good book. Yeah for my spooky recommendation,

887
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,480
it's not spooky. It's more true crime, but like fictional

888
00:49:23,519 --> 00:49:26,880
true crime. It's a show. It's called The Killing. I

889
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,119
talked a little bit about it, but I finally finished

890
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:31,840
all four seasons. I don't know if you remember me

891
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:36,159
saying this show depicted Seattle is sat in Seattle, and

892
00:49:36,199 --> 00:49:38,400
I'm like, man, Seattle looks so depressing. And then I'm

893
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,000
like I looked out the window. I'm like, oh wait,

894
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,119
it is. It's like that, this is what this guy looks. Like,

895
00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:48,639
what are we talking about? Literally, but the first two

896
00:49:48,639 --> 00:49:53,760
seasons follows the murder of a teenage girl and it's

897
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,360
just them unraveling twist because let me tell you, the

898
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,719
twists are twisting. There's just twists. I love a like

899
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,559
Red Harrying and like they're following this case and just

900
00:50:04,639 --> 00:50:07,880
you could see how badly their fuck ups fuck everyone up,

901
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:12,320
Like what is it? Some lives up? Hulu? Hulu, Okay,

902
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,800
and you don't want it. It's on Hulu. It's an

903
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,440
AMC show. It was on AMC first and then it

904
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,760
was cut and then Netflix. Boughty and finished out the

905
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,079
last two seasons. I know, and it actually has a conclusion.

906
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:26,960
It concludes it wasn't like canceled without a final, like

907
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:30,119
actual end to the story. So that's always nice when

908
00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:32,679
there's an actual end to a story to me, because

909
00:50:32,679 --> 00:50:34,639
so many shows just get cut and you never get

910
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:39,559
to see an ending. Hate Clarita Diet. So yeah, the

911
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:42,760
first two seasons follow that story. Some people feel that,

912
00:50:43,159 --> 00:50:45,840
like I've seen mixed reviews where the two seasons drag.

913
00:50:46,039 --> 00:50:48,599
They feel like it dragged out for too long for

914
00:50:48,679 --> 00:50:51,000
the same crime to be the span of those two seasons.

915
00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:54,280
I love a slow burn, you need too, and I

916
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,559
also the relationship between the two detectives is just so funny.

917
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:02,440
To me, I don't mind it, so I don't. I

918
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,639
love a slow burn, so it didn't bother me, But

919
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:07,800
that bothers some people. Season three is a completely different

920
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,719
case that's just wild. And then season four is a

921
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,239
completely different case that I just wasn't expecting. But it

922
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,559
was also not bad, although I would say out of

923
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:19,719
the four seasons, that's probably the weakest season. The one

924
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,480
as tends to happen. Yeah, but no, it was like,

925
00:51:23,519 --> 00:51:27,719
if you like a detective drama. It's honestly enjoyable. It

926
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,480
wasn't Je love drama me too. I've been wanting to

927
00:51:31,519 --> 00:51:35,519
watch true know what's it called True Detective, but one

928
00:51:35,559 --> 00:51:38,119
that has it seems like it's set somewhere else that's

929
00:51:38,159 --> 00:51:41,159
like snowing. I don't know at night night. I don't

930
00:51:41,159 --> 00:51:43,199
remember the name of the show, so scratch all that.

931
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:50,760
So yeah, anything else? No, okay, okay, oh wait, wait,

932
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,199
we finished, which is of lass. That's what I was

933
00:51:54,199 --> 00:51:59,519
about to say. Oh yeah, yes, we did finish, which

934
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:04,039
is doing the ash Travino hands when you see videos

935
00:52:04,119 --> 00:52:12,480
of someone doing that. The search part is Ashtravino hands. Anyway, Yes,

936
00:52:12,599 --> 00:52:14,239
we finished, which is a bit best. So by the

937
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,079
time you're hearing this, I will have sent out discussion

938
00:52:17,159 --> 00:52:19,320
questions to give every one time to answer them if

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you want to answer them, and we will read the

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results and maybe we'll live stream the book discussion on

941
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I don't know how to set it up. Still, okay,

942
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,719
well maybe not. Then. I'm also excited to talk about

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00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,440
the book because I feel like most of the time

944
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we have absolutely loved the book, and I liked it.

945
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I don't want to make it seem like I didn't

946
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like it. I liked it. I had a good time

947
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,760
reading it. Yeah, but I feel like with other books,

948
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,559
I haven't had a thing like where there's things I

949
00:52:47,559 --> 00:52:51,440
didn't really like or like. No I ha critiques. I

950
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,440
guess this time I do. So I'm with you on that,

951
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,760
different with you on that. Yeah, it'll be a little different.

952
00:52:57,199 --> 00:52:59,719
So yeah, I will be sending that out. We'll set

953
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,280
up a day to record, hopefully live stream it, maybe

954
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,360
with just the patron members because I have to figure

955
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,639
out how to do it. I think though with Riverside

956
00:53:08,679 --> 00:53:13,000
you can live stream to YouTube. So yeah, we'll do that.

957
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,480
We'll figure out. We'll figure Oh my god, we will

958
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,320
figure it out, is what I was trying to say.

959
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,480
Also in the description, I will put mutual aid funds

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00:53:21,519 --> 00:53:26,239
for LA for the fires. I mean I've, as we've

961
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,079
said many times, we grew up going not to La La,

962
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,719
but like San Pedro Long Beach area because that's where

963
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:36,159
we have family, but like we have love for LA honestly,

964
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,679
so you know we're gonna do what we can. So

965
00:53:39,519 --> 00:53:41,880
I mean, I'll be using probably some Petroon funds instead

966
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,039
of to help with the podcast to help with the fires.

967
00:53:45,199 --> 00:53:48,559
So if you're interested in donating, I will put some

968
00:53:48,679 --> 00:53:53,000
mutual aid organizations to donate directly too. There's also I've

969
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,480
been showing it on our stories, but there's places that

970
00:53:55,519 --> 00:53:58,559
you can drop off of physical like items that they're

971
00:53:58,599 --> 00:54:02,599
needing like and then if I masks for people cleaning

972
00:54:02,679 --> 00:54:07,079
up the streets right now and then like items. So

973
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,760
I'll be sharing all that in our social media, but

974
00:54:11,039 --> 00:54:13,559
in our show notes I will add some places to

975
00:54:13,639 --> 00:54:16,079
donate as well that we will also be donating to.

976
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,159
And for everyone that has been affected, I hope everyone

977
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is okay. And I mean losing a home and having

978
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,440
to rebuild and not even the home but everything that

979
00:54:27,519 --> 00:54:31,320
was inside. What a difficult, difficult situation to be to

980
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,719
be in, yeh. And so our thoughts and hearts are

981
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,039
with you and that doesn't do much, but we will

982
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:41,840
be trying to help where we can financially too. So yeah,

983
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,079
other than that, stay a spooky We'll catch arow and

984
00:54:44,159 --> 00:54:47,840
next time, Bye bye. S book Tails is hosted by

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00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,400
Christina and Carmen, produced and edited by Christina, researched by

986
00:54:51,519 --> 00:54:54,440
Christina Carmen, and with the help of Don Shout out

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with Don. If you're enjoying the podcast considerably. Gonna say

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