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<v Speaker 1>It's Night with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's news video.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, Nicole for my introduction. I'm filling

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<v Speaker 2>in for Dan. I'll be here until midnight as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be here tomorrow night, Thursday and Friday until midnight.

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<v Speaker 2>And Nicole, are you still there?

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<v Speaker 3>I am here, my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh goody. Did I not hear you yesterday morning? Doing

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<v Speaker 2>news in the am?

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<v Speaker 3>I was not on. Maybe it was a story I

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<v Speaker 3>had done. I thought you yesterday for mister Ben Parker,

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<v Speaker 3>who was playing Dan.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just, you know, a bunch of moving parts over here.

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<v Speaker 4>But you aren't a workaholic. You're all over the schedule.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, I just go where I'm told.

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<v Speaker 4>I know the feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>You get it.

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<v Speaker 4>I truly do get it. Indeed, thank you for interacting

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<v Speaker 4>with me, and I'm always happy to I'll probably speak

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<v Speaker 4>to you tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Works for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do it, okay, all right, bye bye.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tell people that on September fifth, a

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<v Speaker 2>book will be coming to your local bookstores.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's the title. The song is still being written and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a book of a collection of photos and narratives,

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<v Speaker 2>which is stories of singer songwriters who have made the

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<v Speaker 2>Boston Cambridge area their home. And I've got the author

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<v Speaker 2>of that book with me right here, right now, Barry Schneider.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I almost said what you told me not

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<v Speaker 2>to stay. Sire is here and he spells at sc h.

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<v Speaker 4>N E I E R.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm assuming you've got some sort of web location, Barry.

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<v Speaker 5>I do. And first of all, Morgan, thank you very

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<v Speaker 5>much for having me on tonight. No problem. Yes, my

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<v Speaker 5>website is Barry Schneier, and thank you for spelling name right.

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<v Speaker 5>I've lived with that content whole life. Harry Sneier Photography

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<v Speaker 5>dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and I'm gonna ask the world's silliest question. The

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie card comes courtesy both indirectly and directly of the

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<v Speaker 2>Kingston Trio, a legendary folk group.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell people that story.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the Kings and Trio were certainly part of what

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<v Speaker 5>we would call the earliest part of what themed or

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes referred to as the folk revolutions. Yes, came around

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<v Speaker 5>mid sixties. People at Kingston Trio, the Peter Paul Mary

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<v Speaker 5>that we all remember, Yes, of course, you know, with

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<v Speaker 5>those other artists, and you know, we have to go

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<v Speaker 5>back to the days of Bob Villa and Joe Baez.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, Charlie on the MPa for a guy found

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<v Speaker 5>by the Kingston Trio couldn't get off the card because

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<v Speaker 5>he was stuck. Didn't have it fair, didn't have it

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<v Speaker 5>fair in those days you got on. He had a

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<v Speaker 5>payper to get off too, So hence that Charlie Card

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<v Speaker 5>has named it their honor.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember the lyrics of the song, he needed one

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<v Speaker 2>more nickel and he couldn't get off of that train.

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<v Speaker 2>And did he ever return?

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<v Speaker 5>He'll return, and.

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<v Speaker 4>His fate is still unlearned.

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<v Speaker 5>Very good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And had he been riding neath the streets of

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<v Speaker 2>Boston now there's so much more track and stops and

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<v Speaker 2>places to be stuck on.

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<v Speaker 4>The tee as from the early.

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<v Speaker 5>Sixty As long as it's running in your line that day,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess right.

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<v Speaker 4>Good point, very good point.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a question because it says there are singer

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<v Speaker 2>songwriters who have made Boston and Cambridge their home.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell us a few.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the basic storyline is Club Past Seam in Cambridge

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<v Speaker 5>was club polled forty seven back in the day. Was

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<v Speaker 5>one of the uh call it the flashpoints of the

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<v Speaker 5>folk revolution, and many of the artists that came to

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<v Speaker 5>there have gone on to become very well known today

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<v Speaker 5>as well as many new artists went through today. And

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<v Speaker 5>of course at the time you would deal with the

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<v Speaker 5>local artists. Now as you go back to the mid sixties,

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<v Speaker 5>the local artists of people like Joan Bays Joan Byen,

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<v Speaker 5>who was a student at Boston University, Okay for friends,

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<v Speaker 5>who was one of her friends who was a student.

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<v Speaker 5>There was Jim Queskin who put together the Jim Questan

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<v Speaker 5>drug band. And then over you know, down the road

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<v Speaker 5>at Harvard University, a student there would listen at night

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<v Speaker 5>and come by and help people get to the stage.

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<v Speaker 5>His name was Tom Rush. Oh, yes, they've got a

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<v Speaker 5>chance to go on stage. So there's a few of

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<v Speaker 5>just the significant names that have gone on to become

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<v Speaker 5>really legends or icons of their time. And they were

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<v Speaker 5>there in the early days of folk music in the

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<v Speaker 5>Boston Cambridge here. And matter of fact, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 5>where Joan Baier got her start as a resident as

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<v Speaker 5>a user, and she didn't even make it to little

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<v Speaker 5>freshman year of college. Music became her love.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm thinking because of that, her piggy bank

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<v Speaker 2>got rather.

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<v Speaker 5>Full well, one of the things that she said very

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<v Speaker 5>true about that. One of the things she talks about

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<v Speaker 5>and one of the things she talks about in the

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<v Speaker 5>book because she's one of the artists we were lucky

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<v Speaker 5>to get to spend some time with, is she was

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<v Speaker 5>not prepared for the success that came to her. When

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<v Speaker 5>she started to perform at Club forty seven, the word

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<v Speaker 5>got out, this is this woman with this incredible voice,

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<v Speaker 5>she has to come in here. Now. Club forty seven,

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<v Speaker 5>when it first came into being, was really a jazz club.

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<v Speaker 5>Now the jazz was not bringing in the people they wanted,

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<v Speaker 5>so they started bringing folk artists in. Joan Baiers was

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<v Speaker 5>one of them. When the word as she wanted that

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<v Speaker 5>she said in the book the first time she played

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<v Speaker 5>there that maybe you know, ten people of the audience

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<v Speaker 5>by the time she was, you know, getting better known

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<v Speaker 5>and starting to recurt they were lying outside the door.

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<v Speaker 4>Wall the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>Now what school did you attend? Were you a bu

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<v Speaker 2>or Harvard student in those days?

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<v Speaker 5>No? I was, actually I actually was a student here

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<v Speaker 5>at Emerson College. Okay I'm not you know, I was

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<v Speaker 5>in school later than them. But my introduction to this

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<v Speaker 5>music really came when I was in high school, and

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<v Speaker 5>I grew up in Newton, and I was a student

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<v Speaker 5>in Newton's South High School. And one of my best

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<v Speaker 5>friends was a guitarist and we had a little rock

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<v Speaker 5>and roll band in high school. But he had been

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<v Speaker 5>introduced to folk music in an older sister who introduced

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<v Speaker 5>him the folk music. So when I was in high school,

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<v Speaker 5>we used to go down to Club forty seven. And

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<v Speaker 5>here's some of the acts that came through there. Some

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<v Speaker 5>of the acts weber hearing were like the Chambers Buss Oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>the Valley Boys, Kelen Anderson, some great actor.

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<v Speaker 2>I must come today. Have you been able to? I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at a picture for gentlemen that I know

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<v Speaker 2>was a teacher at Emerson, because I've got a wall

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<v Speaker 2>with all kinds of eclectic collection photos and Rex Trailer.

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<v Speaker 2>Was he there when you were there?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's interesting you mentioned his name. I think

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<v Speaker 5>he was actually doing a class. I think he came

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<v Speaker 5>in into one class a week. Rex Trailer, Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 5>was a teacher there. Actually, speaking of teachers at Emberson

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<v Speaker 5>at Emerson the time, what are the instructors I had?

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<v Speaker 5>Who was actually a TV news broadcaster at WBT TV

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<v Speaker 5>was a fellow named Vinny Debona.

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<v Speaker 4>I've heard.

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<v Speaker 5>Vinny de Bonah had this idea of, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 5>that people are out there making kind of funny videos,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe people would like to see them bend to actually

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<v Speaker 5>be in that show America's Funniest Home Videos. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think he was teaching any more for that.

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<v Speaker 4>After another person with a chubby piggybank.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to take a break, and I'm gonna invite

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<v Speaker 2>people who might want to call in and speak with

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<v Speaker 2>you about your book, about your career, about the career

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<v Speaker 2>of a favorite Folks singer, or two or group six one, seven, two, five, four, ten,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight, eight, eight, nine, two, nine, ten, thirty The

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<v Speaker 2>numbers that get through here on Nightside. Nightside goes on

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<v Speaker 2>whether Dan is here or not. Dan should be back

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<v Speaker 2>on the twelfth of August next Monday, but I'm here

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<v Speaker 2>for the rest of the week. My name Morgan White Junior.

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<v Speaker 2>The time and the temperature here at Nightside eight sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty six degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>You will hear me say that repeatedly. Tonight. Dan is

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<v Speaker 2>off for the rest of the week. I'm Morgan Morgan

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<v Speaker 2>White Junior, and I'm doing the best I can to

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<v Speaker 2>keep you guys company here on night Side Tonight, tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>and Friday Night. My guest is best known for work

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<v Speaker 2>with billionaire and I did say that with a b

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce Springsteen in the E Street Band and Springsteen's archives

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<v Speaker 2>and Center for American Music as well at the Smithsonian Institute.

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<v Speaker 2>His name is Barry Shire, and Barry, what got you

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<v Speaker 2>into music? Because I know the book the song is

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<v Speaker 2>still being written, released on September fifth, focuses on folk music.

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<v Speaker 2>But you've mentioned all kinds of music. With Bruce Springsteen,

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<v Speaker 2>You've got pure rock and roll and and there are

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<v Speaker 2>like three or four different styles that grabbed your interest

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<v Speaker 2>when you were a high school student at Newton South

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<v Speaker 5>Right. Well, I've been a lover and pan of music

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<v Speaker 5>in my whole life. I have to say, I have

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<v Speaker 5>to give credit to my father who always had music

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<v Speaker 5>going on in the house. Actually, he was a big

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<v Speaker 5>Broadway musical fan and he's okay, had that stuff all

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<v Speaker 5>the time. I always was exposed to music. I will

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<v Speaker 5>tell you that when the beatle pick in sixty four

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<v Speaker 5>or sixty five, I was mesmerized. Like many young men

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<v Speaker 5>at that time, we had to be in a rock

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<v Speaker 5>and roll band, so were some friends. We formed a

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<v Speaker 5>band at high school and we played what was parts

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<v Speaker 5>of the time, which is the groups like the Rolling

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<v Speaker 5>Stone and the you know groups of the British Invasion groups.

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<v Speaker 5>But as time went on, especially as to college, I

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<v Speaker 5>just because of my love of music, I happened to

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<v Speaker 5>meet many people in the music industry. Was actually working

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<v Speaker 5>as a roadie from band back in the late sixties,

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<v Speaker 5>and I kind of just found myself embedded in the

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<v Speaker 5>music scene here in Boston. Got to know some of

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<v Speaker 5>the bands that were circuinly as the time, Arrowsmith being

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<v Speaker 5>one of them, knew some of the management in the area,

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<v Speaker 5>I just started bringing my camera around and started photographing

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<v Speaker 5>the bands that they would performed, and I just got

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<v Speaker 5>exposed to all kinds of music, and I was very fortunate.

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<v Speaker 5>At the time. I was working a lot with a

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<v Speaker 5>group in Cambridge called Window Pane Productions, and they were

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<v Speaker 5>associated with a group called Avalon who managed Bonnie Race Wow,

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<v Speaker 5>wrapping for a lot of the acts that brought the town.

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<v Speaker 5>And the short story was my roommate of mine had

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<v Speaker 5>heard spring Sea's music on the radio and thought we

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<v Speaker 5>should go check this guy out. And so here we

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<v Speaker 5>are in nineteen seventy four going to see him in

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<v Speaker 5>a bar to Cambridge with maybe you know, one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>And I did, built the website, and because we introduced

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<v Speaker 5>group of musicians coming here today. The singer songwriter genre,

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<v Speaker 5>need to really document the great history that has come

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<v Speaker 5>through your club and get it out there. So the

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<v Speaker 5>project was really based upon documenting the artists that comes

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<v Speaker 5>there over the past are says only and create the future.

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<v Speaker 5>And the great thing is they embrace the show exhibit.

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<v Speaker 5>We were introduced you buy Susan and I'm working also

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<v Speaker 5>with a wonderful writer, Jane Sullivan, who covers hockey culture

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<v Speaker 5>the book, the entire exhibit, the re tire Coature will

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<v Speaker 2>You couldn't do this what you have done for a

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<v Speaker 2>but the time that you started doing this doesn't exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>They wouldn't have let a rookie, junior or senior from

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<v Speaker 2>high school into a club to take pictures, to interact

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<v Speaker 4>You couldn't do it now. Too much security.

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<v Speaker 5>You're absolutely right about that, and there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>restrictions placed upon people when theygraph a band. I was

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<v Speaker 5>you know, back over the years, and these are artists

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<v Speaker 5>like Dan Morris and Patty Smith, bos Skag, Steve Miller,

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<v Speaker 5>Jackson Brown. They look at they say, how did you

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<v Speaker 5>I said, well, I watched. You know, that's we were

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<v Speaker 5>how to basically get our creative work out there. They

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<v Speaker 5>doing learning how to do my craft. We all wanted

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<v Speaker 5>this together and that was the atmosphere. Then to your point,

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<v Speaker 5>these days these difficult. Oftentimes other photographers asked me how

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<v Speaker 5>do I how do I do what you do? How

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<v Speaker 5>do I get into And I say, well, just use

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<v Speaker 5>some bands, the bands that are playing small local clubs.

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<v Speaker 5>Find bands who like and ask an opportunity to photograph them.

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<v Speaker 5>People'll do portfolio, get to work out there. Maybe you'll

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<v Speaker 5>get an opportunity that they'll be you down the line.

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<v Speaker 2>You never know, because today twenty twenty four, there may

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<v Speaker 2>be some hard working performer performers that in five years

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<v Speaker 2>the popularity will explode and who knows what gates will

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<v Speaker 2>open up for them, and you as well had to

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<v Speaker 2>develop skills as a photographer.

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<v Speaker 4>How did that come about?

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<v Speaker 5>about how I say, back in the day I would shoot.

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<v Speaker 5>We all shot films. You shot a roll of film.

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<v Speaker 5>You had serious exposures. You got to be very careful

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<v Speaker 5>that each one looked great. Right, you're shooting digitally. I

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<v Speaker 5>was photographing actually when Springsteen came through a tour and

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<v Speaker 5>I was photographing him at the garden. I was next

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<v Speaker 5>to sitting next to the photographer for the Boston Gloves,

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<v Speaker 5>and I can hear his shutter. Now, I'm shooting digitally

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<v Speaker 5>now as well, going shoo shoot still was well too.

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<v Speaker 5>I could hear his shutter fluttering like a hummingbird winging

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<v Speaker 5>that sounded like and I was thinking to myself, what

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<v Speaker 5>is going on here? And he's shooting hundreds of shots,

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<v Speaker 5>and I thought myself, you know these digital cars that

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<v Speaker 5>should go on your camera to hold up to five

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<v Speaker 5>hundred shots. Yeah, you know, I thought of myself. You

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<v Speaker 5>do that, you're bound to get a good shot. Of

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<v Speaker 5>course you are. And I learned later that in the

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<v Speaker 5>world of photojournalism there's an expression called spray and pray,

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<v Speaker 5>So basically you're bound to get something. Glad that they

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<v Speaker 5>take a shot. But it's a different world of capture photography,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm very fortunate that my training or my upbringing

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<v Speaker 2>Let me, I'm going to stop you here, let me

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<v Speaker 2>take a break. When we come back, I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to tell people if they go on the web where

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<v Speaker 2>they could find some of your photos, other than just

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<v Speaker 2>buying the book. The song is still being written, because

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<v Speaker 2>talking about right now here on Night Side. So I

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<v Speaker 2>promise I'll bring Barry back commercially to maybe a quick

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<v Speaker 2>time eight thirty temperature Brazil sixty six degrees.

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<v Speaker 4>It's night Side.

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<v Speaker 4>I told you that wouldn't take too long.

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<v Speaker 2>Barry Shiner is here with me and we are talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the book coming out on September fifth. The song

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<v Speaker 2>is still being written. And Barry as.

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<v Speaker 4>A junior and senior in.

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<v Speaker 2>High school way back when, just took a camera and

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<v Speaker 2>was able to get into various clubs in and around

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<v Speaker 2>Boston and take pictures of well known performers Joan Baez,

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce Springsteen. Just to drop a couple of names and

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<v Speaker 2>tell people how they can find on the web some

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<v Speaker 2>of your photos.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, obviously the probably the best place would be my

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<v Speaker 5>website which is Barry Schneier Photography dot com. And besides

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<v Speaker 5>the read the work related to the current project, all

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<v Speaker 5>the work I've gone to the past is there as well,

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<v Speaker 5>Desperately one spot. The work is also exhibited through a

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<v Speaker 5>which is just a great gallery for anybody who's interested

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<v Speaker 5>in seeing music photography. They have some probably the best

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<v Speaker 5>collection in the world. If people are in Cleveland and

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<v Speaker 5>go to the Rock and Roll Hall of fame. They

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<v Speaker 5>will see my work displayed there in the Springsteen exhibits.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm also in their archives in which they do as

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<v Speaker 5>a research element. The Bruce Springsteen Archives and Center for

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<v Speaker 5>American Music at mom University in New Jersey has the

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<v Speaker 5>work in their archives as well. Elsewise, it depends. Some

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<v Speaker 5>of my works have period of some albums Springsine some

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<v Speaker 5>of his albums. Neils Blackbey, one of his guitarists. I

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<v Speaker 5>did to work for his latest review when he actually

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<v Speaker 5>he came to Boston and progress in years that would

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<v Speaker 5>use a lives of albums be put out a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of years ago, and you know a few other spots.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, there's obviously been some magazines that covered over

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<v Speaker 5>the Rock Hall and the Sprinty Archives and moreso the

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<v Speaker 5>Towery are probably the best place to just mind my work.

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<v Speaker 2>Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty eight, eight,

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<v Speaker 2>and speak with Barry, Come on, this gentleman has held

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<v Speaker 2>history in his hand, and here's your opportunity. I know

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<v Speaker 2>there must be some Bruce Springsteen fans listening. I heard

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<v Speaker 2>the name of Jem Baez, Nils Lofgren. You got to

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<v Speaker 2>want to speak to this gentleman and ask questions like,

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<v Speaker 2>after he's done a two or three hour show, what

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<v Speaker 2>was Bruce like sitting back in his dressing room? And

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<v Speaker 2>I will ask that after a show is over and

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<v Speaker 2>all the energy has been given to sixteen seventeen thousand

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<v Speaker 2>fans screaming for him, what's he like when he just

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's actually a great question because I actually have

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<v Speaker 5>observed it. There's two things. One is he's physically exhausted.

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<v Speaker 5>The band is physically exhausted. I remember I was actually

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<v Speaker 5>Madison Square Garden where the tours, and I'm down the

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<v Speaker 5>just clucting my equipment and I see Max Weinberg, the drummer,

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<v Speaker 5>walk by, and his arms are literally shaking. This guy's

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<v Speaker 5>pounding the drums all night. But a great little story

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<v Speaker 5>is is when Bruce played where the shows that silet

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm just backstage at the end getting my gear together,

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<v Speaker 5>and he's walking off and he's, you know, getting ready

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<v Speaker 5>to for four hours and he's you know, he's he's

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<v Speaker 5>not a young person that he's very fit. He just

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<v Speaker 5>looked totally exhausted, like he was sort of hunched over,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, like the left down. After all, energy is expected.

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<v Speaker 5>Just as he's walking away, somebody from his organization comes

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<v Speaker 5>vet who's been injured in the war, wanted leader. He

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<v Speaker 5>perked up in an instance. One of the things I

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<v Speaker 5>and engage with people, just as a as a personality,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to change quickly from this particular subject and

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<v Speaker 2>tie this in with you and your father. You say

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<v Speaker 2>you my observation. This is completely subjective of the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>love song ever heard on the Great White Way, and

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<v Speaker 2>Believe in You from How to Succeed in Business Without

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<v Speaker 2>himself up. You've got the cool, clear eyes of a

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<v Speaker 2>secret of wisdom and truth.

425
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<v Speaker 4>He is.

426
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<v Speaker 2>Showing that he loves what he has done so far

427
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<v Speaker 2>in his career. And Robert Morse and you and me

428
00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:45.000
<v Speaker 2>and your father have Newton as a common denominator because

429
00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:46.319
<v Speaker 2>that's where he was from.

430
00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:47.359
<v Speaker 4>I live in.

431
00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:51.279
<v Speaker 2>Newton, and you, obviously with your family grew up in Newton.

432
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<v Speaker 4>See how it all tied together.

433
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<v Speaker 5>That is very interesting. I like that very much. And

434
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<v Speaker 5>what's interesting is that album. You know you mentioned about

435
00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:04.400
<v Speaker 5>listening to that music in my household. That album got

436
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<v Speaker 5>a lot of playing. That album and for the other

437
00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:10.799
<v Speaker 5>one I remember that was always being played. Was the

438
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<v Speaker 5>most happy sellar. Yes, you know, you know, And and

439
00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:17.799
<v Speaker 5>it's interesting that you bring up that because I remember

440
00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:21.480
<v Speaker 5>years years later. You know, of course, I'm a young kid.

441
00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:23.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm not really you know, knowing what the storyline is.

442
00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:26.960
<v Speaker 5>But but I remember years later watching must have been

443
00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:30.880
<v Speaker 5>the film version which played of the hottest succeed in

444
00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:33.880
<v Speaker 5>business already trying with Robert Morris. Yes, and I it

445
00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:38.319
<v Speaker 5>was just fantastic. And I remember as an older younger

446
00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:42.000
<v Speaker 5>person suddenly realizing that there was an element of that

447
00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:45.759
<v Speaker 5>storyline just about how tough it is to make it,

448
00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:48.279
<v Speaker 5>what you have to do to be successful, that I

449
00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:51.039
<v Speaker 5>think I didn't really catch before. I mean, it was

450
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<v Speaker 5>a wonderful kind of editorial comment on just trying to make.

451
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<v Speaker 2>It and there are people people waiting to have you

452
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:03.880
<v Speaker 2>in the back in a happy go lucky musical. But

453
00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:07.759
<v Speaker 2>that was part of the plot. The people that didn't

454
00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:11.359
<v Speaker 2>like seeing him succeed and did the best they could

455
00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:14.799
<v Speaker 2>to get him tripped up and get him fired.

456
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<v Speaker 5>It's so interesting you mentioned that, because I remember watching

457
00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:22.640
<v Speaker 5>the film and saving myself. He's letting the world know

458
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:26.039
<v Speaker 5>that business can be pretty cutthrop yes, And I didn't

459
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:29.640
<v Speaker 5>take that, And I was really impressed that from that error,

460
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:34.839
<v Speaker 5>that somebody would take that that storyline on, because you know,

461
00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:37.680
<v Speaker 5>I didn't talk about things like that that much back then.

462
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:41.319
<v Speaker 2>And it resonated with me when I saw it the

463
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:46.119
<v Speaker 2>first time as well, not on Broadway, but the movie,

464
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:50.559
<v Speaker 2>and I was still in high school, and it went

465
00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:54.319
<v Speaker 2>click in my mind as well. And I'm sorry for

466
00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:57.759
<v Speaker 2>getting slightly off track, but when you said your father

467
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<v Speaker 2>used to listen to Broadway, musicals. I just thought, I

468
00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:04.200
<v Speaker 2>gotta tell this story to Barry.

469
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<v Speaker 5>That's a great one. Yeah, it was. It was great

470
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.559
<v Speaker 5>to just I mean, my wife and I always have

471
00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:12.799
<v Speaker 5>music on the house. We always have music in the

472
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:16.720
<v Speaker 5>house when I raise raise three stunts, and we just

473
00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:20.359
<v Speaker 5>think music is such a gift. Everybody appreciates it in

474
00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:23.319
<v Speaker 5>different ways. There's so many options these days. And our

475
00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:25.400
<v Speaker 5>kids still love music today, and matter of fact, we

476
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:28.119
<v Speaker 5>have great conversations with them, but they tell us, well,

477
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:30.799
<v Speaker 5>we ask them, what are you listening to? They're exposing

478
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:33.160
<v Speaker 5>us to the music. When I go places, when I'm

479
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:35.359
<v Speaker 5>meeting somebody, even if I'm at a doctor's appointment and

480
00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:37.440
<v Speaker 5>talking to somebody, I think, what are you listening to?

481
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:40.599
<v Speaker 5>These days? You know, I want to know what people

482
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:43.519
<v Speaker 5>are listening to, Who's popular, who's you know, because with

483
00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:46.559
<v Speaker 5>screaming and all the different ways. I mean, I used

484
00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:49.400
<v Speaker 5>to tell when I might talk about my work, I

485
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:53.000
<v Speaker 5>talk about how when we used to share music back

486
00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:56.480
<v Speaker 5>in the day, we physically give you sent you an album, yes,

487
00:27:57.400 --> 00:27:59.599
<v Speaker 5>and the hopes you may get it back some days.

488
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:00.480
<v Speaker 4>And that's the key.

489
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:03.200
<v Speaker 2>You wanted to make sure that your friend gave you

490
00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:06.920
<v Speaker 2>back the album and took care of that album while

491
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:08.240
<v Speaker 2>they had it in their possession.

492
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:12.440
<v Speaker 5>Actually, that was sharing music back then. Today it's a

493
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:13.119
<v Speaker 5>whole other story.

494
00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's so many different ways to do it. You

495
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:19.160
<v Speaker 2>can send it electronically. Well, don't get me off that subject.

496
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:26.400
<v Speaker 2>The subject of folk music, it dominated from roughly the

497
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:31.359
<v Speaker 2>late fifties to just before the British invasion. Once the

498
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Beatles did that at sullivan appearance, the world of music

499
00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:43.279
<v Speaker 2>changed forever, and folk music necessarily had to take a

500
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:47.640
<v Speaker 2>different seat than it had had in the American listener's ear.

501
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:53.880
<v Speaker 2>But for those roughly five six years it was on

502
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:54.799
<v Speaker 2>the top of the heap.

503
00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:59.759
<v Speaker 5>It was if we sink back, we could think about

504
00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:02.519
<v Speaker 5>the artists like you know, Peter Paul and Mary, the

505
00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:06.880
<v Speaker 5>Kingston Trio, making the appearances on the shows like Ed

506
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:08.920
<v Speaker 5>Sells and the shows like that that were, you know,

507
00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:11.400
<v Speaker 5>there's the way we heard of music or saw it

508
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:14.119
<v Speaker 5>on music back then. And you make that good points

509
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:18.440
<v Speaker 5>because black and roll really became so big in the

510
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:21.240
<v Speaker 5>mid sixties with the British invasion, and then from then

511
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:24.839
<v Speaker 5>on with the San Francisco psychedelic music in the late sixties,

512
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:26.880
<v Speaker 5>and then with the you know, you go through all

513
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:30.960
<v Speaker 5>the genres, you know, with lowtown and you know you

514
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:34.119
<v Speaker 5>go then you know, in the nineties against the punk rock,

515
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:35.599
<v Speaker 5>you need to get the punk rock. And I hope

516
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:38.319
<v Speaker 5>the changes. But what was very interesting to me is

517
00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:40.079
<v Speaker 5>one of the things I was very excited about doing

518
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:43.880
<v Speaker 5>this project was the as much as yes, spoke music

519
00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:47.559
<v Speaker 5>certainly to the backseat to that type of music, you know,

520
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:51.079
<v Speaker 5>pop music, theent, but the singer songwriter, which is what

521
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.960
<v Speaker 5>this book, in This Party really is a tribute to,

522
00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:57.920
<v Speaker 5>always remained. There was always somebody back there who wanted

523
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:01.400
<v Speaker 5>to write a song topress themselves, to talk about what

524
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:04.039
<v Speaker 5>they were feeling, what they were seeing, which is what

525
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:07.160
<v Speaker 5>folk music really is. It's really a voide, you know.

526
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:10.559
<v Speaker 5>Manity artists say folk music is the music of the people,

527
00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:13.599
<v Speaker 5>by the people, for the people, and there's a continued

528
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:17.440
<v Speaker 5>generation of artists that are using that to express themselves.

529
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:20.279
<v Speaker 5>And these days, with all these things we are dealing with,

530
00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:24.279
<v Speaker 5>whether you're dealing with political issues, climate issues, issues with

531
00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:27.680
<v Speaker 5>your own personal identity, music has become a vehicle for

532
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:31.960
<v Speaker 5>people to express those feelings. It grows, it builds community,

533
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:35.559
<v Speaker 5>people share, and so there's a whole generation of artists

534
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:37.720
<v Speaker 5>This is really one of the wonderful things That's Pasting

535
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.079
<v Speaker 5>is doing. They have a initiative called the Folk Collective,

536
00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:45.559
<v Speaker 5>which is identified a dozen musicians, many many urban musicians,

537
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:47.079
<v Speaker 5>you know, because they realize a lot of the folk

538
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:50.279
<v Speaker 5>music was coming from you know areas, And I just

539
00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:53.000
<v Speaker 5>be honest, there's a there's there had been a stigma

540
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:56.799
<v Speaker 5>that folk music was old white guys with guitars. Well,

541
00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:59.519
<v Speaker 5>that's not the case anymore, you know, that's not the case.

542
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:02.319
<v Speaker 2>Let me take a break on that comment. And when

543
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:04.839
<v Speaker 2>we come back, I have a point I want to

544
00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:08.359
<v Speaker 2>make about Peter Paul and Mary's Puff The Magic Dragon.

545
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Time here on night side eight forty six sixty six degrees.

546
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

547
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Nice Sight Studios on WBZ News Radio.

548
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:27.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about the book. The song is still being written.

549
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:30.279
<v Speaker 2>It's a photo s a book. And the author of

550
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:36.799
<v Speaker 2>that book, Newton local kid, grown up, grown up and

551
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:40.680
<v Speaker 2>making orals and noodles of money with his photos and

552
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:43.880
<v Speaker 2>his books. And by the way, is this your first book, Barry?

553
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:47.720
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I know, it's actually my second book. Okay, first

554
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:53.799
<v Speaker 5>book was based upon my early work with Okay Boss

555
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:54.960
<v Speaker 5>rock and Roll future.

556
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:59.559
<v Speaker 2>There you go, and people get your pens out so

557
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:04.319
<v Speaker 2>you can spell his name properly. Shinier sc h and

558
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:08.799
<v Speaker 2>ei e R Barry. I think you can figure out

559
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:09.680
<v Speaker 2>the spelling of that.

560
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:12.799
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but Barry Schneier.

561
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:13.000
<v Speaker 4>All right.

562
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:17.960
<v Speaker 2>And I mentioned I want to talk about Peter Paul

563
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Mary's Puff the Magic Dragon. I have a four year

564
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:24.920
<v Speaker 2>old grandson. Here we are in the year twenty twenty five,

565
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:36.160
<v Speaker 2>roughly sixty five seventy years sixty five years later, and

566
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:40.480
<v Speaker 2>my grandson knows that song. He might not know all

567
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:44.799
<v Speaker 2>the words, but he knows that song. That song has

568
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:50.880
<v Speaker 2>lived through generations. It's such a simple story that they

569
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:56.319
<v Speaker 2>tell Peter Paul Mary, they tell so well. And I

570
00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:59.079
<v Speaker 2>will say this about my grandson. I don't think he

571
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:02.799
<v Speaker 2>knows any Beatles songs, as in recognizing them with the

572
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:04.079
<v Speaker 2>lyrics of the titles.

573
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:05.640
<v Speaker 4>But he knows that song.

574
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:10.960
<v Speaker 2>And that's the power of the type of music that

575
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:14.440
<v Speaker 2>some of these performers were able to put out back

576
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:18.160
<v Speaker 2>in the late fifties into the early to mid sixties.

577
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:27.519
<v Speaker 5>It's a song that gets sung and performed a lot.

578
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:29.720
<v Speaker 5>And I will tell you that actually one of the

579
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:34.519
<v Speaker 5>actually I have actually photographed both Peter Yarrow and Paul

580
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.839
<v Speaker 5>STOOTI you know from Peter Paul Mary obviously there is

581
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:44.720
<v Speaker 5>not with it. Yeah, But when when Peter Yarrow was

582
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:50.480
<v Speaker 5>performing in Arlington at the Regent Theater and he did

583
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:53.160
<v Speaker 5>that song, he brought all of the kids up on

584
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:55.039
<v Speaker 5>stage to sing with them and it was really a

585
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:57.920
<v Speaker 5>wonderful stace. So to your point, you're right, the kids

586
00:33:58.000 --> 00:33:59.920
<v Speaker 5>they know that song and it's wonderful to hear that.

587
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:03.039
<v Speaker 5>Butchers about Cherry grandchild.

588
00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:06.559
<v Speaker 4>And you said you have three children.

589
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Are they are any of them following in their father's

590
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:15.679
<v Speaker 2>footsteps as far as love of music and or photography

591
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:17.920
<v Speaker 2>or some relatable subject.

592
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:22.760
<v Speaker 5>Well, actually they are. We are three sons. Actually all

593
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:26.039
<v Speaker 5>live on the West Coast. We joke about how we

594
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:27.480
<v Speaker 5>think they just want to get it far away from

595
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:29.559
<v Speaker 5>us as possible, But that's not the case. That's where

596
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:30.039
<v Speaker 5>they're working.

597
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:31.119
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

598
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:34.199
<v Speaker 5>Our oldest son is in Los Angeles and he actually

599
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:36.679
<v Speaker 5>is a photographer, and he's actually a sort of photographer.

600
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:40.440
<v Speaker 5>He works also as a director of photography and very well.

601
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:43.599
<v Speaker 5>He shoots a lot of episodes for shows on Netflix

602
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:47.039
<v Speaker 5>and Apple. Our youngest son, who is in Portland, Oregon,

603
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:50.800
<v Speaker 5>is a producer for a small for a creative agency

604
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:52.719
<v Speaker 5>and a small one a good size agency. He does

605
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.519
<v Speaker 5>a lot of work for you know, producing commercials for

606
00:34:56.599 --> 00:35:00.559
<v Speaker 5>everything from you know, skateboards for Adidas to you know,

607
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:05.960
<v Speaker 5>shows for HBO. Our middle son is into music as well.

608
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:09.239
<v Speaker 5>He actually is a He started off he was obviously

609
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:12.079
<v Speaker 5>you actually went to Emerton as well as a sweeling

610
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:15.360
<v Speaker 5>maker and he went on to he does photography as well.

611
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:19.239
<v Speaker 5>He's actually in the world of digital marketing for a

612
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.280
<v Speaker 5>great brand out there. So they're all doing creative work.

613
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:25.880
<v Speaker 5>They're all loving music and they still do. And like

614
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:29.000
<v Speaker 5>I said, oftentimes my wife will say, what do you

615
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:32.000
<v Speaker 5>listening to these days? Recommend somebody and it's great. Usually

616
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:33.480
<v Speaker 5>I'll get a text he wants and say, hey, have

617
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:36.000
<v Speaker 5>you heard this act? So it's great to have that

618
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:37.440
<v Speaker 5>thing going on with the boys.

619
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:38.559
<v Speaker 4>What are their ages?

620
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:44.679
<v Speaker 5>Oldest is forty, then thirty eight and thirty six.

621
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:48.239
<v Speaker 2>You don't sound old enough. I know your history, so

622
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:51.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm basing it on what you have said about you.

623
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:54.119
<v Speaker 2>But again, you don't sound old enough to have a

624
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:55.159
<v Speaker 2>forty year old child.

625
00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:58.400
<v Speaker 5>Well, I thank you for that. I thank you so

626
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:00.639
<v Speaker 5>much for that. It's all in the s all in

627
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:03.880
<v Speaker 5>the mind. That's all in the attitude, you know, I said,

628
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:07.719
<v Speaker 5>I feel younger than mine and younger at heart. The

629
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:09.599
<v Speaker 5>body just needs to catch up. I don't know if

630
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:10.320
<v Speaker 5>itever will, but.

631
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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have a forty one year old and I

632
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.440
<v Speaker 2>feel every one of the years that I've taken to

633
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:18.599
<v Speaker 2>get here. But I'm going to ask you did you

634
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:23.679
<v Speaker 2>see And I don't HBO or Cinemax or Showtime one

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<v Speaker 2>of the three. They did a documentary on Little Stevie.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see that?

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<v Speaker 5>Though? You know, I haven't seen it yet, and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>so looking forward to seeing it because he he is

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<v Speaker 5>a wonderful man. He's a character. I was actually looking

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<v Speaker 5>at a few occasions to work with him, photographing his

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<v Speaker 5>band as he plays when he's not touring The Spring

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<v Speaker 5>Little Stephen and the Disciples of Soul.

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<v Speaker 4>Whieh.

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<v Speaker 5>I will tell anybody who is a fan of that

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<v Speaker 5>genre of music, R and B soul, it is a

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<v Speaker 5>great show, a great act. And I haven't seen the

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<v Speaker 5>show yet, but he I'm wondering if this is part

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<v Speaker 5>of his the documentary. He himself is a walking Encyclopedia distribute.

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<v Speaker 2>He knows music backwards and forwards, he was there in

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<v Speaker 2>the roots, the origins of rock and roll, pre British invasion,

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<v Speaker 2>all the way through and up to now in the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenties. He knows his stuff and he does nothing

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<v Speaker 2>but represent that music with love and care.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely. When he does his live show, I remember he

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<v Speaker 5>will talk about the boarders of the song. He went

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<v Speaker 5>into one song where we talked about the origins of

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<v Speaker 5>the a cappella groups who were saying it's free quarters.

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<v Speaker 5>You know. He brings all the history, all the old

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<v Speaker 5>R and B and motown into his show and he's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, Well, I'm pretty much at the end. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna wish you continued success because you have achieved a

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<v Speaker 2>strong level of success and keep at it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>hope when the book comes out it makes you a

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<v Speaker 2>billionaire like Bruce has become.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'll take any portions of that, but I want

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<v Speaker 5>to thank thank you for having me on and letting

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<v Speaker 5>people know about the book and the exhibit that's coming up.

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<v Speaker 5>I think people who are in town that they oppose

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<v Speaker 5>the exhibit at the at the Wing Center, at the

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<v Speaker 5>Folk Americ Ground Lucah Hall of Fame, they'll really get

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<v Speaker 5>a good experience of not just seeing some of the

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<v Speaker 5>photograph of the artists we spend time with, but the

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<v Speaker 5>doings to work in there, to bring some of the

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<v Speaker 5>artifacts and archives of the past history to life for

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<v Speaker 5>every related experience.

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<v Speaker 2>And Barry, thank you, and we will do this again.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that I've got your phone number in my rolodex,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll grab you again, maybe during the holiday season.

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<v Speaker 4>That way we can.

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<v Speaker 2>Promote the book even more and put a few more

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<v Speaker 2>pennies in your piggy bank.

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<v Speaker 4>You take care now, I would love that.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks so much for having me on the year tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>Bye, Barry.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, everybody, next hour we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>your doggies and your kiddies, and I'll give you more

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<v Speaker 2>details as we come back from the new use. Time

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<v Speaker 2>and temperature eight fifty eight sixty six degrees