WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.080 --> 00:00:05.759 Thumb back to the Epstein chronicles. In this episode, we're 2 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:09.480 gonna hop back to August first of twenty twenty one 3 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:14.759 and an article from Radar Online. In this episode, we're 4 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:18.519 gonna talk about the Ponzi scheme that Jeffrey Epstein was 5 00:00:18.559 --> 00:00:26.039 involved in that somehow he avoided all responsibility for. So 6 00:00:26.480 --> 00:00:31.640 let's dive into this article that was authored by Dominic Utten. 7 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:36.359 Headline how Jeffrey Epstein made a fortune from an illegal 8 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:41.520 Ponzi scheme then skipped away with millions of other people's money. 9 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:46.719 Sounds about right par for the course for mister scumbag himself. 10 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:51.159 And there was never any restitution for these people. They 11 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:55.119 stole millions of dollars. Him and Steve Hoffenberg. They stole 12 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:58.759 a grip of money from these people. And while Hoffenberg 13 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:02.359 paid his debt to act doing eighteen years in prison, 14 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:06.159 Jeffrey Epstein, of course, was able to go on and 15 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:11.920 continue his streak of rape and abuse and money laundering 16 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:17.400 and god knows what else. When the full horror of 17 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:22.840 billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein's crimes were laid bare in twenty nineteen, 18 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:26.079 the world wondered how he managed to get away with 19 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:30.640 his abuse for so long. But as authors Dylan Howard, 20 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:35.959 Melissa Cronin, and James Robertson revealing their book Epstein Dead 21 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:39.760 Men Tell No Tales, the man who would be unmasked 22 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:43.359 as the worst pedophile in American history was guilty of 23 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:46.920 other criminal acts too, and should have been should have 24 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:51.640 been jailed in the early nineteen nineties. All of that 25 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:54.480 is correct. Dudes should have been in prison a long 26 00:01:54.560 --> 00:01:57.000 time ago. If it was you or I who got 27 00:01:57.040 --> 00:02:00.359 involved in one of these Ponzi schemes, or you know, 28 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:04.920 redirecting money from someone's pension, you better believe we'd be 29 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:05.840 doing prison time. 30 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:07.359 And we should be right. 31 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:11.840 You know. I'm all for prison rehabilitation, like I always say, 32 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:15.960 and for people being able to, you know, not get 33 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:19.639 felonies or not be put into jail for minor drug possession. 34 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:23.000 But if you're stealing money like this from people's pensions 35 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:27.360 and you're involved in financial dick hettery, well, my friend, 36 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:33.639 there is a nice place for you in jail. As 37 00:02:33.639 --> 00:02:38.080 the authors explain, Epstein's rise through Wall Street was unusual 38 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:42.280 and unusually fast. Born in New York and raised in 39 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:47.159 the quiet Brooklyn community of Seagate, his early life seemed unremarkable, 40 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:51.759 and after leaving university without graduating, he initially worked as 41 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:55.520 a math teacher in Manhattan before being dismissed from the 42 00:02:55.520 --> 00:03:00.879 prestigious Dalton School for his lackadaisical teaching style. Oh, I'm 43 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:03.199 sure that's all it was. I'm sure that he never 44 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:07.080 made any passes at any girls while he was at Dalton. Nah, 45 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:11.800 that never happened. He was a master manipulator. They right, 46 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:17.080 but Epstein's manipulations weren't always done through legal means. By 47 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:20.159 the early nineties, the authorities had set their sites on 48 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:25.000 Epstein for operating a multimillion dollar Ponzi scheme. Now think 49 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:27.719 about that for a minute. When the authorities zero went 50 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:31.159 on you for a Ponzi scheme and they're building a case, 51 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:36.960 you know, money laundering, wirefraud, all of their favorite charges, well, 52 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:40.319 you know that you're in big trouble. And it is 53 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:45.039 exceedingly rare for people to end up walking when they're 54 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:48.159 caught up in something like this. And usually when you 55 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:52.879 do walk, that's because you turn snitch. You're ratting out 56 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:55.520 all of your co conspirators. You're ratting out anyone who 57 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:58.759 was involved in the scheme and you're looking to not 58 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:04.039 end up doing years VI e Rico charges. So that's 59 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:07.479 obviously what Epstein did. He obviously turned rat, told the 60 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:11.560 authorities what was going on, and started his working relationship 61 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:14.840 with whichever scumbag in the government you want to add. 62 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:19.480 But the fact is, you don't just walk on stuff 63 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:27.040 like this if you're not being protected. Howard, Cronin and 64 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:31.480 Robertson also note that the master manipulator was to use 65 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:36.360 his dismissal to his advantage. True to form, Epstein somehow 66 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:39.600 managed to turn that failure into a stepping stone to 67 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:43.160 even greater success a job on Wall Street. They write, 68 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:46.439 during a parent teacher conference, the twenty three year old 69 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:51.240 had managed to dazzle one student's financier father. So when 70 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:54.959 Epstein was fired from Dalton, the broker connected Epstein with 71 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:58.560 Alan Greenberg, a Wall Street bigwig who was poised to 72 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:04.399 become chief executive officer of multi billion dollar global investment 73 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:08.920 bank and brokerage firm bear Stearns. How many times are 74 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:16.000 you gonna fall face first and land clean? It was 75 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:19.439 a common procedure for Epstein. How many people leave, leave 76 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:22.639 their little shitty ass teaching job and go get a 77 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:26.480 job with bear Stearns. How many people happened to just 78 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:30.600 meet someone's dad during a parent teacher conference and go 79 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:33.879 on to have this whole Wall Street career. See that 80 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:37.279 whole entire thing, this whole genesis story here really doesn't 81 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:42.519 add up to me, honestly. Later that year, Epstein landed 82 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:45.560 a job at bear Stearns as a low level junior 83 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:49.439 assistant to a floor trader. He swiftly rose through the ranks, 84 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:53.360 and within four years he had become a limited partner, 85 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:59.560 taking on mega millionaire clients like Seagram president Edgar bronf Bronfman. 86 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:03.439 H Where we heard that name before? Oh, that's right 87 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:08.519 in the Nexium trial. Huh, Clara Bromfman, her sister. They 88 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:13.279 were right at the top with Keith Rainiery. You see 89 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:15.519 how all of this is circular. You see how all 90 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:19.839 of these people at some point were rubbing elbows and 91 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:26.199 breaking bread and hanging out with each other, getting in 92 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:29.480 on Wall Street before the nineteen eighties banking boom allowed 93 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:33.079 Epstein to build a spectacular network of connections that made 94 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:35.560 him the toast of Manhattan during one of the most 95 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:39.360 prosperous decades it had ever seen. Well, there's no doubt 96 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:42.879 about that this point in time, Wall Street was quite 97 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:46.399 possibly the greediest it has ever been. Remember the movie 98 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:51.759 Wall Street with Charlie Sheen and Michael Douglas. That was 99 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:56.600 a good characterization of stockbrokers and Wall Street in general. 100 00:06:57.759 --> 00:06:59.160 Greed is good. 101 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:02.480 Remember that line you ask me how I know, Well, 102 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:05.560 I might have a stockbroker or two floating around in 103 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:09.680 my family. Look, the moral of the story is the 104 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:13.920 financial sector is broken, and all of these people that are, 105 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:18.399 you know, running around in the financial sector. I don't 106 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:21.279 even know what to say, honestly, at this point, it 107 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:26.560 is an absolute shit show the way they conduct business. 108 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:33.360 In just a few short years with Bear Stearns, Epstein 109 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:36.600 had made millions of dollars, was traveling full time by 110 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:41.079 chauffeur Limo, had billionaires relying on his financial advice, and 111 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:46.199 was carousing around town with stunning women on both arms. Still, 112 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:50.199 it was not enough. Epstein's greed and ambition were to 113 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:53.800 push him to grow even more desperate and reckless in 114 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:57.120 his pursuit of money and influence. And that's how it 115 00:07:57.120 --> 00:08:00.120 always is with these guys, right, Greed, greed, greed, and 116 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:05.160 more greed, and thankfully, a lot of times that's also 117 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:09.240 what ends up getting them captured, their greed and their hubris. 118 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:14.120 In early nineteen eighty one, one of Epstein's colleagues at 119 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:18.000 bear Stearns tipped off management that Epstein was testing the 120 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:22.439 boundaries of the law, right Howard Cronnin and Robertson. After 121 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:26.399 an investigation, Epstein admitted he had loaned twenty thousand dollars 122 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:31.360 to a friend, Warren Eisenstein, who then used the money 123 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:35.720 to invest in stocks, with Epstein's insider knowledge guiding him. 124 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:40.879 It was unethical and potentially illegal, not for Epstein always 125 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:44.080 finds a way to wiggle off, doesn't he. Epstein somehow 126 00:08:44.120 --> 00:08:47.039 managed to escape with a twenty five hundred dollars fine, 127 00:08:47.240 --> 00:08:50.159 but a few days later he was under the spotlight 128 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:54.320 again when the US Securities and Exchange Commission opened an 129 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:59.720 investigation into Epstein's client, Edgar Bronfman, and Epstein was accused 130 00:08:59.799 --> 00:09:03.399 of legal securities violations. That should have been in the 131 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:07.000 end of it right there. He should have been busted 132 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:14.600 and absolutely disgraced. But that's not the case, is it. 133 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:19.200 We all know that Epstein somehow, some way parlayed this 134 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:28.000 into what we see occur later on, depending on who 135 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:32.399 you ask. Epstein was either unceremoniously fired at that point 136 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:35.279 or quit in a blaze of glory. The authors continue. 137 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:39.279 Either way, it left the unabashed social climber in a 138 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:43.559 very undesirable position. No longer a Wall Street wonder kind. 139 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:48.519 Epstein was jobless, homeless, and running out of funds. He 140 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:51.639 had to get creative. Yeah, well, we all know how 141 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:55.519 he got creative, don't we. That creativity was to lead 142 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:59.679 Epstein to take on controversial black market clients like Saudi 143 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:04.240 era Abian businessman ad Non Koshogi four, whom he helped 144 00:10:04.279 --> 00:10:08.919 broker global armament deals, including the sale of major weaponry 145 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:13.120 like the a Wax airborne Warning and Control System aircraft. 146 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:18.039 So here your ties with Jeffrey Epstein and Saudi Arabia. 147 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:22.159 Remember we were talking about the Saudi Arabian passport. Well, 148 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:25.840 when you're helping guys like Kashogi out Ad Non Koshogi, 149 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:28.399 not Jamal Kashogi, the one who was killed by the 150 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.840 Saudis in the Turkish embassy, but ad Non Koshogi, the 151 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:36.639 famed arms dealer, Well you know that you're gonna have 152 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:41.120 some ties to the Saudi royal family. And Epstein obviously 153 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:44.559 parlayed those ties into getting himself that fake passport, and 154 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:50.799 lord knows what else. In nineteen eighty seven, Epstein's business 155 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:54.679 affairs had become increasingly shady, and it all came to 156 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:58.759 a head when he met Steve Hoffenberg of Tower Financial Corporation, 157 00:10:59.320 --> 00:11:03.919 a leading debt collection and corporate rating agency at the time. 158 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:06.559 So right off the bat, the second you tell me 159 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:10.799 you're a debt collector, I gotta roll my eyes. Debt collector? 160 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:15.120 The hell does that even mean? In an exclusive interview, 161 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:18.440 Hoffenberg tells the authors of Epstein Dead Men Tell No 162 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:23.000 Tales what attracted him to the financier pedophile. I was 163 00:11:23.080 --> 00:11:27.919 very impressed with the unbelievable personality and unbelievable ability of 164 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:31.759 Jeffrey Epstein to become a friend, and the uncanny ability 165 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.000 that he had as a mastermind criminal on Wall Street. 166 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:39.200 He says, Jeffrey Epstein was brilliant, was a brilliant, brilliant 167 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:42.679 Wall Street mastermind in criminality, for securities fraud. 168 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:44.279 I was greatly. 169 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:48.360 Impressed with his demeanor, his ability to understand complex securities, 170 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:53.480 underwritings and sales to investors. So that shorthand for Hoffenberg, 171 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:59.200 saying he recognized someone who would be a important cog 172 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:03.840 in his upcome schemes because of Epstein's he was so 173 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:07.480 unusual as an executive and had so much ability. It 174 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:11.039 was just very surprising how gifted he was. His ability 175 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:13.879 to sell you securities when you weren't looking to acquire 176 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:17.799 securities was remarkable. He would end up convincing you to 177 00:12:17.799 --> 00:12:21.360 buy securities in Towers Financial. You weren't even considering that 178 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:25.240 he had that gift and that ability. So basically he's 179 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:32.159 a bullshit artist, snake oil salesman, Carnival Barker, kind of 180 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:34.159 like a lot of these people out here putting out 181 00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:38.399 these stupid articles we see all the time. But once 182 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:41.960 again Epstein could not resist the shortcut, even if it 183 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:42.559 was illegal. 184 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:45.440 Quickly they set the setup. 185 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:49.759 At Towers Financial evolved into a huge Ponzi scheme. As 186 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:53.600 explained by Hoffenberg, you raise money from one investor to 187 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:57.559 pay another investor. That's the simple definition of ponzi. Jeffrey 188 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:01.399 Epstein participated full time and was a mastermind in that 189 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:05.639 part of the Tower financial crimes. Towers Financial got into 190 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:09.840 an awful lot of legal problems and litigations and ended 191 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:12.960 up going into bankruptcy. Now normal people who get caught 192 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:14.679 up in this, they go to jail man, they go 193 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:20.480 to prison. After the authorities were alerted to the illegal scheme, 194 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:24.279 trustees were appointed to operate the company, and once again 195 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:29.480 Epstein showed his talent for manipulation. Jeffrey Epstein had a 196 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:32.639 very strong relationship with the lawyers that the trustees hired. 197 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:36.879 Hoffenberg tells the authors. Actually, the trustee in bankruptcy at 198 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:40.679 Towers Financial, a man named Alan Cohen, hired one of 199 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:44.000 Jeffrey Epstein's best friends and lawyers in Dike and Khan 200 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:48.919 to investigate Jeffrey Epstein at Towers Financial, which is remarkable. 201 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:54.559 Jeffrey Epstein manipulated that occurrence without question. So there's another 202 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:57.480 little golden nugget for you. When I talk about Indike 203 00:13:57.519 --> 00:13:59.919 and Khan and how crucial they were, you see it 204 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:05.639 here on the ground level. Jeffrey Epstein manipulated the situation 205 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:09.960 so that these guys in Dike and Khan were the 206 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:15.120 ones performing the investigation on Epstein, his best friends. Basically, nah, 207 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:16.720 no nepotism out over here. 208 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:17.559 There's no. 209 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:23.320 You know, two leveled playing field, no two tier justice system. 210 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:29.639 Give me a break. The outcome was even more jaw dropping. 211 00:14:29.960 --> 00:14:33.559 In nineteen ninety five, Hoffenberg was sentenced to twenty years 212 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:37.600 in prison, a one million dollar fine, and four one 213 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:42.039 hundred and sixty three million dollars in restitution, while Epstein 214 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:46.240 he dodged all charges. I wonder why. So this is 215 00:14:47.480 --> 00:14:50.480 in my mind anyway, this is where Epstein was really 216 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:52.559 locked in as an informant. 217 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:53.799 The way we talked. 218 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:57.440 About Whitey Bulger, how he was working with the government 219 00:14:57.720 --> 00:15:00.519 and they were willing to look the other way thing 220 00:15:00.559 --> 00:15:04.600 with Epstein. Epstein was not punished in the crimes at 221 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:09.360 Towers financial Hoffenberg continues, Jeffrey Epstein's ability as a master 222 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:12.159 criminal got him out of the penalty box for all 223 00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:15.600 of that. That's what happened continuously in his other criminal 224 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:18.399 charges as well, and we have seen a pattern of that. Right, 225 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:22.080 normal people don't get off on things like this. Hell, 226 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:25.840 normal people don't get off on anything. But somehow Epstein, 227 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:30.720 somehow found a way what could and almost certainly should 228 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:35.279 have been a lengthy prison stretch and financial ruin was 229 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:39.840 instead a mere footnote in Epstein's life story. And as 230 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:44.919 Howard Cronin and Robertson reveal, Hoffenberg believes the pedophile may 231 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:48.360 even have used the scheme to fund his future crimes. 232 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:49.360 Oh, I don't doubt that. 233 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:53.039 I guarantee that Epstein was not only stealing from the clients, 234 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:57.000 but stealing from Hoffenberg. This dude was using that money, 235 00:15:57.000 --> 00:16:00.320 setting up offshore accounts, the whole fucking thing. Man, have 236 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:06.600 no doubt about that. Epstein didn't just escape justice, they right. 237 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:10.679 Hoffenberg claimed he moved on to new adventures. With millions 238 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:13.720 in his pocket. Epstein was able to fund his criminal 239 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:18.200 enterprise financial Trust Company and Jeffrey Epstein in company. Hoffenberg 240 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:23.279 alleged there was another I believe it was international asset collections. 241 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:25.799 He was able to fund it with the assets and 242 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:30.120 money from the Towers financial crimes. And we all know 243 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:32.080 that should never happen. If you get caught up in 244 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:34.799 something like this, you should do time, you should be indicted, 245 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:38.000 you should have your assets seized. But none of that 246 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:41.799 ever happened for Epstein. None of it. And when when 247 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:43.720 we go back and we look at stories like this, 248 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:47.159 it just shows you. It shines a spotlight on how 249 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:51.440 egregious it all was, how the government failed at every 250 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:54.639 level to stop this man. How many chances did they have, 251 00:16:55.159 --> 00:16:58.840 and how many times did they fail to stop them. 252 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:02.080 If you'd like to contact me, you can do that 253 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:06.799 at Bobby Kapucci at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bo Bby 254 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:11.880 cap you Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can also 255 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:17.839 find me on Twitter at Bobby underscore cap you Cci. 256 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:20.880 The link that we discussed can be found in the 257 00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:25.279 description box fun and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. 258 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:29.400 Today we're going to talk about Jeffrey Epstein once again, 259 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:32.200 and how he got one of his survivors, a sixteen 260 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:35.400 year old girl, to recruit over seventy underage girls for 261 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:39.759 him by buying her items in her baby registry and 262 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:43.880 the rest of it. Just another disgusting tale of Jeffrey 263 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:46.680 Epstein and his disturbing, gross behavior. 264 00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:48.279 As if you needed. 265 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:50.680 Another story to slam it home at this point, But 266 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:54.119 that's what we're doing here. We're cataloging all of it 267 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:58.680 because this is one of the most disastrous, embarrassing moments 268 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:01.359 in the history of our country in my opinion. All 269 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:03.440 of the people that knew what he was up to, 270 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:06.039 all of the people that knew what he was doing, 271 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:10.160 and nobody steps up to stop him. So, yeah, you 272 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:12.519 want to talk about a black eye, you want to 273 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:16.200 talk about some filth that needs to see the light. Well, 274 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:19.680 look no further, my friends, because Jeffrey Epstein and his 275 00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:23.640 disgusting ass story is where you will find it today. 276 00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:27.400 Our article is from the Daily Mail headline Jeffrey Epstein 277 00:18:27.480 --> 00:18:31.160 got Survivor sixteen to recruit over seventy underage girls for 278 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:34.400 him by buying every item on her baby registry, and 279 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:37.720 then lost interest in sexually abusing her after she had 280 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:42.599 given birth. So Jeffrey epstein'shole MO was until you're older looking, 281 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:44.920 or until you're older, then I'm going to molest you. 282 00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:48.240 That's how you're old. And then when you got to 283 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:51.200 a point where you weren't what he wanted anymore, you 284 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:55.119 were just tossed to the wayside, no more interest in you, 285 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:58.559 doesn't need you anymore. You were just another tool for 286 00:18:58.680 --> 00:19:02.000 him to scratch an itch with. That's what it comes 287 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:04.160 down to, and that is this sixth son of a 288 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:07.599 bitch that all of these people love to hang out with. 289 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:10.599 You know, I just saw an interview with Hillary Clinton 290 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:13.559 where she's going ham on everybody, this, that, the other thing. 291 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:16.200 But yet not one of these interviewers have the courage 292 00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:19.240 to ask her a few simple questions such as, why 293 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:23.119 were you and Bill Clinton vacationing at Zoro Ranch? Or 294 00:19:23.160 --> 00:19:26.240 why was Bill Clinton getting a massage from a trafficked girl? 295 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:30.039 Or why did Glene Maxwell get invited to Chelsea Clinton's wedding? 296 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:33.960 Or why did Jeffrey Epstein give you guys over six 297 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:37.559 million dollars for the Clinton Global Initiative? Nobody wants to 298 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:41.880 ask these questions, And I'm stumped as to why could 299 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:46.680 it be that they're whitewashing Bill Clinton's involvement here. Now, 300 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:49.640 let's remember what Nancy Pelosi's daughter said, some of our 301 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:52.680 faves are gonna get caught up in this whatever that means, 302 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:55.680 talk about vague comments and then she has nothing else 303 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:56.960 to really say going forward. 304 00:19:57.039 --> 00:19:58.920 Right, all of these people with all of. 305 00:19:58.880 --> 00:20:02.559 These big commentary, But yet when the chips are down, 306 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:05.559 where are they all at? How many people are still 307 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:08.319 pining for justice here? How many people made a few 308 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:10.920 bucks and then just dipped? See, this is more than 309 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:13.559 that for me. This is about justice. This is about 310 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:16.799 all of us being screwed by a runaway federal government, 311 00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:20.440 and most certainly about these survivors who have been forgotten 312 00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:23.599 about and cast aside for the very last time, as 313 00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:29.480 far as I'm concerned. This article was authored by Chris Spargo, 314 00:20:31.480 --> 00:20:34.000 one of the many high school students who was allegedly 315 00:20:34.519 --> 00:20:38.000 sexually assaulted by Jeffrey Epstein, managed to keep making money 316 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:42.000 even after the pedophile lost interest in abusing her. The 317 00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:45.960 young woman, identified in court records as LM, revealed in 318 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:49.319 depositions that she had been to Epstein's home more than 319 00:20:49.400 --> 00:20:53.559 fifty times between the ages of thirteen and sixteen, getting 320 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:56.759 several hundred dollars after each visit in exchange for the 321 00:20:56.799 --> 00:21:01.319 sexual abuse she was forced to endure. The money dried up, however, 322 00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:05.000 when she became pregnant, she revealed, explaining that Epstein did 323 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:08.480 not have any interest in sexually assaulting girls and women 324 00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:12.279 who had given birth. This was how he rolled. He 325 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:16.759 wanted young girls, girls that he considered I don't know 326 00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:19.000 new Baile or whatever the hell they were calling them, 327 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:21.240 but the fact is these are the kind of girls 328 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:23.839 that he wanted. And once this girl was pregnant, that 329 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:25.720 was the end of it, the end of her road. 330 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:28.799 You no longer have any use to me, sweetheart, is 331 00:21:28.839 --> 00:21:31.880 basically what he told her. But he did have other 332 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:35.279 plans for that had nothing to do with him assaulting 333 00:21:35.319 --> 00:21:40.480 her anymore. Epstein had bigger plans for LM, however, and 334 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:42.680 managed to convince her to take on a new role 335 00:21:42.920 --> 00:21:46.559 as one of his recruiters. He did this, explained LM's 336 00:21:46.599 --> 00:21:51.160 lawyer Bradley Edwards in one deposition, by purchasing every single 337 00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:54.599 gift she had registered for ahead of her baby shower 338 00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:58.240 and having one of his female staffers drive them over. 339 00:21:58.319 --> 00:21:59.039 To her house. 340 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:01.319 So if if this was a RICO case like it 341 00:22:01.359 --> 00:22:04.240 should have been, whoever the female driver was who drove 342 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:06.720 these items to her house, that person would be nailed 343 00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:09.680 under RICO as well for being part of a criminal conspiracy. 344 00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:13.039 But they never did the Rico right, And you ask 345 00:22:13.119 --> 00:22:16.720 yourselves why they didn't do it. Keith Rainiery Rico, r 346 00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:20.480 Kelly Rico, every mob boss you've ever met ricoed, not 347 00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:24.680 Jeffrey Epstein, not Glen Maxwell. And my guess is my 348 00:22:24.839 --> 00:22:29.119 speculation is and that's because we all know where all 349 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:32.279 signs would point if we hit it with Rico. We 350 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:35.319 know what happens on the street if you follow the money, 351 00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:38.079 that money goes to a drug dealer, right, Well, where 352 00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:40.519 does the money go after the drug dealer? Usually just 353 00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:45.759 some shitbag politicians office. Given her own struggles, Lm was 354 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:48.559 never charged for her role or even considered to be 355 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:51.680 brought up on charges when Epstein was first investigated in 356 00:22:51.720 --> 00:22:54.720 two thousand and five by Palm Beach officials. If she 357 00:22:54.839 --> 00:22:57.720 was thirteen, she shouldn't have been. She was groomed and 358 00:22:57.799 --> 00:23:00.599 trained to take part in this. Any of these girls, 359 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:05.839 Virginia robson any of these girls who were groomed into 360 00:23:05.839 --> 00:23:10.200 their role, they certainly are not a Sarah Kellen Vickers 361 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:14.519 or a Leslie Groff, an older woman who knew what 362 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:16.759 they were doing and went into this with their eyes 363 00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:21.680 wide open. Ellen M said that she hid the money 364 00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:23.759 she made in her room and used it to purchase 365 00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:26.759 clothing and shoes, which your family could not afford at 366 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:29.400 the time. And I don't know about you folks out there, 367 00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:32.319 but when you're poor and everybody else has something and 368 00:23:32.359 --> 00:23:34.799 you don't have it, it's a big deal, especially when 369 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:37.759 you're a teenager. And that's what these girls were doing. 370 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:40.079 They were trying to keep up with the Joneses. Right, 371 00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:41.640 we need to get a few more bucks. I don't 372 00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:43.559 have the money to buy these clothes. Go out with 373 00:23:43.599 --> 00:23:45.599 my friends. Oh, here's a quick way to get it, 374 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:49.160 and when you're this age, you don't think the long term, 375 00:23:49.400 --> 00:23:53.759 You don't think about the consequences of these actions. In 376 00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:57.119 one deposition, she recalled how she stood over Epstein naked 377 00:23:57.119 --> 00:23:59.680 with a nude friend just twelve next to her and 378 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:03.359 pin the pedophiles nipples. Elm was living in a trailer 379 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:05.359 at the time and said that the money she was 380 00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:09.319 getting made a huge difference. Again, if you've never been 381 00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:11.359 broke or poor, you don't know how much of a 382 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:14.400 difference a few hundred bucks makes. Have you ever had 383 00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:16.359 no money in your pocket and then all of a 384 00:24:16.359 --> 00:24:19.200 sudden you got yourself a crispy hundred dollars bill in there? 385 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:22.039 Sure makes a whole difference about the way you feel 386 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:24.880 about yourself, doesn't it. Now Think about never having that 387 00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:27.440 hundred dollar bill to put in your pocket and going 388 00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:30.319 through every day hand to mouth, just thinking about your 389 00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:33.200 basic necessities being met. How am I gonna eat? How 390 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:34.720 am I gonna have a pair of shoes that don't 391 00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:36.279 have holes in them? How am I going to get 392 00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:38.240 to school without being picked on by the other kids 393 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:41.279 because of my clothes? And this is the kind of 394 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:42.799 shit that poor kids have to deal with. 395 00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:45.680 Court. 396 00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:48.599 Documents filed in one of his many legal battles include 397 00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:52.160 the details of an interview former Daily News Gossip columnist 398 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:55.680 George Rush did with Epstein that was killed by mort Zuckerman, 399 00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:58.160 the paper's owner at the time and the pal to 400 00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:01.359 the pedophile good old Morties Zuckerman, who keeps getting his 401 00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:04.480