Speaker 1: Again your friend standing on the sound. You'll cry, you
lot a fuck you cry, You're no father, cry not fools.
Can you let your pen again?
Speaker 2: Your star shone up the turn.
Speaker 1: You're fighting, not Fucy, fid and not fucy tried in
a fire, first strike your friend in those grim steal yourself.
You're crying, no fucking crying the fucking crying fin self
made a can't you dream those skirts will grow yourself.
You're fighting, fucky, fighting out, franky, frighting, fus be joy
inside today, say go the pup ding soon and your
man's crying sad not to number.
Speaker 3: Time to tell yourself.
Speaker 1: You don't be Don't you find anywhere?
Speaker 2: Don just say you fall?
Speaker 1: Fights crying, poor lord John.
Speaker 3: Lady, you cry pulling?
Speaker 1: Do you find anything the side?
Speaker 4: Just say you fall?
Speaker 1: You find your fall, your fine.
Speaker 5: I love that so much. That is another great track
from the band The Painting, And again thank you to
Lewis Taylor for joining us in the first hour from
The Painting, that is so good. That is the title
track from the album Before the Rain and Welcome everybody.
We have entered our number two Numarrow doos of Matt
Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of
wm NH ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester,
New Hampshire. And of course you can stream the show
from anywhere. Go to Matt connorton dot com slash live
for all of your live streaming options, social media links,
contact info, show archives, et cetera, et cetera. Today is Saturday,
December twentieth, two thousand twenty five, and we have joining
us in studio. And I've been looking forward to this
because they're from a venue that comes up a lot
on the show. So let's see. Let me make sure
we got the camera on here. So we've got at
the news table as we like to call it, her
in the news table area. Mike Hill is here from
Charlie Hill. Hey Mike, good morning, welcome to the program.
Speaker 6: Thank you and thanks for having us.
Speaker 5: And then yes, and speaking of us, so please introduce
these other fine people that you brought with you.
Speaker 6: I brought Lloyd the sound engineer. How you doing, hi, Lloyd, welcome,
brought the boss, my wife, Terry.
Speaker 5: Okay, morning, Hi Terry.
Speaker 6: She said, I'm the boss, and I can say so.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, all right, well, very good, very good. So
we were talking off air about this the reason I'm
excited to have you here, so Charlie Hill. So, just
for clarification, Charlie Hill is not a band. Charlie Shill
is a venue. And I'm not blowing smoke when I
say this. Of all the obviously, you know, when musicians
come on the show, we talked about various places to
play in the area. Charlie Hill comes up more than
any other venue that we talk about on the show.
I hear about Charlie Hill all the time. Have been
for how long have you been opening? It's been a
couple at least a couple of years.
Speaker 6: Right, The first show was in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 5: Twenty fourteen and oh wow, longer than I realized.
Speaker 6: It's been growing like crazy.
Speaker 5: Oh wow wow.
Speaker 3: It started with annual event third weekend in August, a
Live Love Laugh Festival, and went from a once a year,
three day weekend event to the doors were open every
Saturday night at seven o'clock.
Speaker 5: Okay, wow, So what's the live lat I live laugh,
I'm sorry, Live love laugh, Live love Laugh?
Speaker 4: What is that?
Speaker 3: That is a festival? Charlie Still is in memory of
my daughter Charlie who helped me do the first festival
in twenty fourteen, okay. And she loved music. She loved
all the music, all the people, red and yellow, black
and white. She is just all about a safe place
to enjoy music for the musicians and the spectators and
the flow artists and.
Speaker 5: All of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's why we do what we do.
Speaker 5: So that's that's how the festival started because of her, Yes, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: Well the first the first festival was done celebrating the
legalization a medicinal marijuana and educating the public on how
they could become law abiding citizens. We had a doctor
there that did consultations, issued medical cards caregivers and that's
how it was started. And then I lost Charlie ten
days before Christmas that year, and so this is all
done in memory of Charlie. And I think that's one
of the reasons we stand out from other venues is
it's about the bands and the musicians and the people
who love them and support them. Any event we do
always has free camping. Probably not recommended this time of year.
Speaker 5: Obviously unless masochist.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, people ask you'd be surprised, really, Oh yeah, we
die in New England. But all the events we do
are always free. Camping very few events, most most of
the shows are always free. And we don't We're not
a bar, we're not a restaurant. Yeah, we're there for
the bands and the spectators and and you know that
when you walk in the door place, it's like a giant,
oversized living room with a really nice stage and incredible
sound system. Okay, so it's like home away from home.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what everyone says.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not fancy. We got.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we decided that making the stage sound better than
front of the house, it's probably better for the band's experience.
Speaker 5: Oh definitely.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's basically that's what it's about.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's more about having that what you would get
if you went to an arena, you know, yeah and
actually had you know, expensive production behind you, instead of
you didn't get out. We got to close the doors
right right, you know. Yeah, we didn't make that much
money at the door. Sorry kid, we already tell him sorry.
Speaker 4: On the way in. Yeah, by donation, buddy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was trying to explain our relationship between
Terry and Lloyd. I believe we met in nineteen eighty
one at Noble High School? Is that right about nineteen
eighty one?
Speaker 5: Yes, okay, okay, so yeah, we've.
Speaker 3: Known each other a long time. Yeah, And it started
with the outdoor stage and I had stored people's stuff
for free in the back of the big fifty one
hundred and twenty five foot barn and we got rained
out I think it was twenty sixteen, and we had
to push a bunch of the junk out of the
way one of the back doors, and Wellyd said, you know,
who's stuff is this? When's the last time we talked
to any of these people? You know, we could put
a stage in here and have a nice indoor place too,
and so we.
Speaker 4: Had to be done.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like a yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one step at a time.
Speaker 5: So then when so that festival though that so that's
what started it, and then and then from there, like
what was the transition because now it is every Saturday, right, yeah,
I guess Saturday every Saturday.
Speaker 3: Some a few people came to me in twenty five
fifteen and asked me if I was going to do
the really cool event again like I said I would
every year. Well, I guess you have to go back
to Charlie started going to festivals at Harry's Hill when
she was fourteen, you know, fibbing to mom about where
she was going for the leak again, and she said,
I'll help you do the festival. Mom, it's the coolest
thing ever to have a festival at my house in
our field. But you're just doing it because you're mad
because you got in trouble from that sheriff. So you
have to promise that you'll do this every year and
I'll help you do it, and you have to put
it in writing. So she made me put it on
the t shirts that year that it was our first
annual event. Even the graphics people, the graphics coop lady
that used to do our race cars and stuff, she's like, Terry,
She goes, you don't put the first annual something, And
I said, it's a deal I had with Charlie. So
come twenty fifteen, couple people ask you're going to do
the festival again, and I said, I'll never have another
party again in my life as long as I live.
And then I remember, I remember the promise to Charlie
that it was in writing on the shirts, and so
the kids put it together because I didn't have it
didn't mean to do anything, but I said, we'll open
the field. Of course, there was no open the doors
except for the office, and then I let them do
that the twenty fifteen show and Memory Charlie. And then
somebody said, well, Terry, if it's all about marijuana, you
really need to have something in the end of October
where everybody can play like show and tell with their
home grows. So they put something together the third weekend
in October, and typically a Charlie's Till event will be
on the third weekend of the month, and other shows
that the bands put together is other weekends of the month.
So twenty fifteen we added the Hallow Harvest, which is
an annual event that we do, and then the next
year it just was more and more and more and more.
And as it's the way we do things the way
we do it, we didn't all get together one day
and say, hey, this is what we're gonna do and
this is how we're gonna do it. We pay attention
to what the needs are of the people and what's
gonna make everybody happy and work, you know, I mean,
you can't make everybody happy all the time, no matter
how hard you try. But we definitely try hard.
Speaker 5: Yeah it sounds like it.
Speaker 3: So now here we are, and I guess one of
the things that happened several years ago was we do
a lot of shows in the summer, and then we
don't do a lot of shows in the winter, so
the local guys would come and jam pretty much all
winter except for the random shows that we would have,
and then come summertime we would have six, six or
seven weeks of shows in a row, and then the
local jam guys we're like, oh, you don't love us
anymore in the summer. So I was like, okay. So
then now that's where the open Jam night, the first
Saturday every month came into play. So no matter what
time of year it is, everyone knows the first Saturday
of the month is always open jam. So if anybody
wants the opportunity to come play on the Charlie Hills
stage and enjoy the you know, because Lloyd's a wizard,
he's a madman. Yeah, he's a wizard. So yeah, once
he perfected the front house, then he's like, now I
gotta get the stage monitors as good, if not better
than the front of house. Because if anybody deserves to
have quality sound. It's the bands. So we kind of
have a joke at Charlie Soil when a new band
comes and they get set up on the stage and
then they see the experience on the stage for them,
they poop their pants. So we actually have a pair
of emergency underwear on the stage, like it was a
joke alongside. And then wouldn't you know, you come across
you know, two dollars that's on flea market, this pair
of emergency understands. So just kind of fell in with
a joke.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're probably one of the only venues right now
that are I haven't set of servo drive voutext Devin.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're a subs run by a servo motor.
Speaker 7: Oh really no, yeah, they go all the way down
to twenty Oh wow, I cut them off at forty
Yeah under the drum rise here and it's just the
drum production microphones that picked that up, no kidding. The
stage presence and drums forty and below is right under
your feet. Okay, it's like a kick in the foot. Yeah,
it's more of a feeling than a sound.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: When you started that sentence, so I thought you were
going to say you're you're the only venue that has
emergency underwear for the.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably you probably are.
Speaker 4: Probably not.
Speaker 5: As a journalist, I have to ask you going back
to something that Charlie had said to you. What the
thing about getting in trouble with the sheriff? I have
to I have to circle back to that.
Speaker 3: Carry the rebels.
Speaker 6: He's the reader.
Speaker 3: I donot have a criminal record at all, whatsoever? Okay,
no speeding tickets, clean driver's license.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So in twenty fourteen, when I decided to do this
crazy thing because I knew it was a lot of
people don't break the law. And the only thing we
did to break the law was we smoked a little weed.
So I got pulled over by the sheriff, York County
sheriff in Waterborough. And I hope he hears this because
he wasn't not nice.
Speaker 5: And where where is water water Borough? Is that a
New Hampshire?
Speaker 3: That's no? York County means oh it.
Speaker 5: May no gotcha? Okayborough mean Okay.
Speaker 3: A friend of a friend of a friend was actually
a caregiver and had the opportunity to take a ride
all the way up to like, you know, almost Augusta. Yeah,
and go to a caregivers and get that quality bud
that everybody looked for. But I didn't have my medical card.
Oh so like on a down law, I paid like
it was like.
Speaker 5: A half hour just for clarification. You didn't have it
on you here, you didn't have it at all.
Speaker 3: You know, I have a medical marijuana car, gotcha? Okay,
I was a lawbreaker?
Speaker 5: Yeah you criminal? Yeah yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: He pulls me over. You know, you'd be past each
other in the opposite direction, and then all of a sudden,
the blues come on. He whips it around. I'm like, well,
he's obviously not pulling me over, so I'm not breaking
the law. Yeah, and well yeah, slides in right behind me.
I'm like okay. So he comes up, put the window down.
This is in February. I have a great big tahoe.
I have wood equipment, like the haul firewood out of
the forest.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then I have all my janitor buckets in the backseat,
so got a lot of work equipment in there. And uh,
and there's snow off in the woods and he comes
up and he goes, uh, I pulled you or for
going thirty nine into thirty five, And I'm looking at
the thirty five mile an hour sign. I'm not even
in the thirty five mile and hours long, so I
just knew he was not Most police officers are righteous dudes,
okay and women, but I knew this was not one
to them right off, because I'm not even in thirty five.
So he pulled me over for going thirty nine to
thirty five. I knew I was going anyway.
Speaker 5: Even if you were in a thirty five, and it's.
Speaker 3: Couldn't give you a warning of verbal warning for thirty
nine and thirty five, but I distinctly smell your room
of marijuana feminating from your vehicle, and I'm like the
other day and I yeah, right, So I'm usually pretty
respectful that you know, my dad's thirty five years retired
Air Force sergeant. Yeah, so I'm pretty respectful to authority.
But I'm like, really, I just looked right at the cop,
like really, I'm forty six years old. I'm thinking I
don't have a speeding ticket or nothing, and he's gonna
bust my chops because my vehicle smells like marijuana. So
oz Bratt, I go, oh, well, I love my twenty
two year old daughter borrow at sometimes you know, and
he's like, I'm gonna have to do a seven twenty
nine search of your vehicle. So I knew he was
gonna toss my truck through everything, over the snow banking
in the woods. So I just reached in the console
because he was right. I smoked part the first time
when I was twelve. It was the stinky scrass I
ever had in my life. It was emanating from my
vehicle of the aroma. So I just hand him the
bag of weed and then he goes, Oh, what am
I supposed to do with us? Now, I'm gonna have
to fill up paperwork and do a report and everything.
And I said, well, I guess you should have thought
of that, or you busted my jaws. So I was embarrassed,
right bottom line, I always thought it should be legalized. Yes,
Indians smoked it in their peace pipes before we started
making alcohol. So I'm in a state where you could
have a medical card not getting trouble for it, I'm
getting in trouble for it. So I was embarrassed. I
didn't have my medical card. Now if I knew then
at the time, And this is for anybody who doesn't
live in Maine or whatever. If you have a medical
marijuana card, you're protected by hippolaws. So if a law
enforcement officer asks you do you have your medical marijuana
card and you say yes, that's the end of the conversation.
Do you not have to show or produce that medical
marijuana card because it's getting hippolized and likes for hip
or rite if they demand to see it. So, but
you should never lie to lie to a law enforcement
off So but anyway, so that's why I decided to
have the festival because there's so many other people like
me who don't break the law except they smoke weed
or eat it or drink it or whatever. Right, because
it's used medically, you know, in a lot of ways too.
And so that's why we did that first festival. Yeah, okay,
or about a lot of things. So it's also home
of Cannabis. Charlie Hill is also home of Cannabis Church
of New England.
Speaker 5: Okay, uh what that's come up on the show before too,
but refresh my memory. What is that Cannabis Church of
New England.
Speaker 3: The church doors are open every Saturday, seven o'clock no
matter what, and you can you can.
Speaker 6: Celebrate music all about the musicians. The state is built.
We built the venue for the musicians mostly. Yeah, we
have we have so much power on the floor and
the kick on drum riser that we can plug amps
and foot pedals and everything. We don't have to worry
about running chords. The stage is on its own one
hundred amp service so that it's isolated. Nothing on the
stage is unshielded or ungrounded. All our amps have a
sister ramp under them, so if we have a problem
during the show, Lloyd's slides under switches to the new amp.
We're good to go.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 6: It's all designed for the musicians to get the best
experience they can get on a stage.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I love seeing the new kids come. Yeah that first
timers when they come off of that stage, they're just
high on the feeling of it. Right, And we get
a lot of bands while that's say, well, we've never
played this song out before, so we're going to try
it here. So I hear a lot of first first
It's very cool.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the other one of my favorite. Really enough
to like, you know, we're gonna try it. Hell, you
guys want to know the song?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they never asked the sound guy if
they got time for one more, because I'm like all night.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we don't walk.
Speaker 4: To the band coming up after you. They might want
to go home tonight, right.
Speaker 6: We don't have to shut down at one o'clock. We're
not beholding tenny laws. We don't serve food, we don't.
Speaker 4: Our Saturday night.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, okay, oh yeah, I don't want to go out.
Speaker 3: We have a few neighbors who don't appreciate out of
state license plates parked on the one side of the
road safely. Oh really, such things. And so it came
up in a meeting, I believe it was last summer.
Every once in a while, group of you know, four
or five of them will get together and go to
the selectmen's meeting and really and raise their complaints. And
I try to be concerned, and you know, I mean
I do, because they might actually have a legitimate thing,
you know what I mean. So, yeah, so I try
to blow them off, you know, the first couple of times,
and then when they get all really hot and bothered,
and I'll go to this electiments meeting and we'll discuss it.
Speaker 5: But what are they what are they complaining? You said?
Out of state. We should clarify to where where where
is Charlie So exactly Lebanon, Maine, Lebanon, Maine.
Speaker 3: More Center Road, Lebanon, Maine, not Lebanon, New Hampshire.
Speaker 5: All right there, Holy crap, so so so in Lebanon, Maine.
So you've got neighbors effectively who they don't like out
of state plates.
Speaker 6: They get what they they counted one hundred and sixty
cars parked along the side of the road. Yeah, for
the New England death metal bonanza. Yeahs came and they were.
Speaker 3: All reading Island and Texas and Pennsylvania, New York and
New Jersey. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I refused to disclose the exact number of people that
may have came to visit us that weekend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's okay that the voters approved to have a
ridiculous amount of uh recreational marijuana retail businesses up and
down the road, you know, But we're not going to
discuss the ridiculousness of the known as the lawless town
of Lebanon because approximately twenty years ago. You can't make
this up, honey, Okay, I'm just saying they accidentally voted
out their local police departments.
Speaker 6: Wording is especially Yeah, and.
Speaker 3: They still twenty years zalor they still can't get like
if they put up a new ordinance or something for
the for them to vote for the town to vote on. Yeah,
they still can't get the wording right. They actually legalized.
Oh gosh, this a whole other thing. But they put
the fourth to the voters whether or not. Because if
you get approve to get approved by the state of
Maine to have a regno medical, we're talking the recreational
thing now, so you you have to have town approval,
and if you don't have town approval, the state won't
give you state approval. So in the town of Lebanon,
which is one of the reasons I bought the property
in Lebanon twenty plus years ago, is there's no zoning,
so you can use your acreage residentially, agriculturally, commercially, or
a combination of the three. We have no comprehensive plan.
We have no zoning because we have no comprehensive plan,
we don't have a town schiter. Okay, so it's ridiculous.
So they want to make up new rules about no camping,
thiss and no freaking parking on the side of the road.
And no loud music ever anytime, and you know whatever.
But they have no zoning, so they can't even make
up these rules like, oh, well, do you vote to
let the recreational pot stores be on only two o
two and not you know, off of two oh two,
and it's like, you can't do that because we have
no zoning. They did it anyway, so like they voted
on it, yes, we'll let it happen, and then they
didn't write it correctly so they couldn't enforce it, so
they had to vote on it again. And then the
people voted no because it was just a three ring circus,
you know, it was ridiculousness. They figured that out, so
they vote no. So then they have the third vote.
They vote no again, and then this particular select man okay,
who loves me, you know, you love me, Chuck okay,
and you hate to love me and you love to
hate me. Okay, So anyway, but this.
Speaker 5: Passion one way or another, so he's like, oh, well, authorize.
Speaker 3: It anyway, and he's like, okay, so we authorises all
the recreational stores on the side of two o two,
so they're there, you know, and of course anybody in
the town of Lebanon can have it because we have
no zoning. Yeah, and it's just ridiculous. Yeah, it's insane.
So that's all cool, all right, But having one hundred
and sixty cars parked safely on only one side of
the road and not near intersections and not blocking driveways,
and every time they call the police, you know, like
the little boy that cried wolf, they waste the sheriff's
time when he should be out. You know, he's got
to drive all the way out to Lebanon, to the
very edge of York County. It's got to cover all
York County to come out and say, oh yeah, once again,
the cars are all part safely on the side of
the road and there's no problems. Yeah, you know what
I mean from their perspective, I've been doing this over
ten years. We've had no problems. Yeah, you know what
I mean, what if we heard out of their mouth? Geez,
we wish all the other venues and mud runs and
whatever else goes on in York County. You know, had
it together enough because you guys give us no trouble.
You take care of yourself, and we have no problem
except for the Cairns of the neighborhood.
Speaker 5: So why does it why does the sheriff have to
come to that? Is that because there's still no there's
no police, no local police. That's incredible.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had a lot of tinety town police department
and the budget was X amount of dollars and the
police department requested in considerable increase in the budget. So
they put it on the next year's vote. You know,
do we approve this higher, way higher budget than the
one last year? And they didn't say or resort to
last year's budget. They like left that part at it.
True story, man. So then you vot all these town
people that like campaigned against the new budget. They don't
need no more money, we don't need no more cruises,
you know. And then they voted on it. It's like,
don't we vote the budget?
Speaker 4: No, no, and no.
Speaker 3: And then they're like, what they didn't mean to vote
out their police department. They didn't, Okay, but they did.
And then and then once once after that, it was like,
so much of your tax money goes to the state
police and goes to the sheriff's department. So from a
taxpayer's perspective, I already have to pay for two policing agencies.
Why do I want to pay for a third one?
You know when all they do is go around and
pick on the local and question you know, that's the
whole other thing. So it puts a bigger straight on
the state police in the sheriff's apartment. It's not fair,
and it's spent a three ring circus because you know,
like at one point in time, it was the Sheriff's
department this month, and then the state Police the next month,
so their alternate like rival football to communicate commit this
crime every other month? Was he saying, you got all
this nonsense going on on the thirtieth and the thirty
first of the month, and then the next patience he
takes over and they have no idea what the other
agency was dealing with two days ago.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's incredible.
Speaker 3: You want to know, Okay, So I'm sorry response to Arlie, This.
Speaker 5: Is very interesting.
Speaker 7: They haven't learned that people who don't want to be
told what to do can't tell people what to do
right right.
Speaker 4: See, if you if you set.
Speaker 7: Up a town so that nobody can tell me what
to do with my property and nobody can interfere with
my stuff, Well, when you don't like what your neighbor's doing.
Guess what You've got no laws, right, all you got
is what the state guidelines are. And when the state
says it's legal to park the cars on one side
of the road, well, guess what, I don't care if
they drove here from Taiwan?
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, appropriate, All right, I'm sorry, but I'm gonna
quote Chuck Russell, Chairman Chuck Russell of the Lenin Select Board.
Oh yeah, because this is what he said recently this summer. Yeah,
the problem is she knows the rules.
Speaker 4: That's a fact. Yeah.
Speaker 8: We did use it.
Speaker 4: We did use it to our advantage.
Speaker 6: At the New England death Metal Show this year, we
had Mortician came out of retirement to play, oh kidding,
and we knew it would take him. The neighbors would
start complaining exactly at one o'clock, so we noticed and
take the sheriff half hour at least to get there.
So we let Mortician run and then when the sheriff
did come, we turned down front of house and ranted
off just the monitors out yeah, outide, everybody got a
good dose of death metal, nice right before bed nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I understand this. In twenty fourteen before I
did this very edgy, controversial celebrating legalization of medicinal marijuana thing. Yes,
I did my homework first, and I don't like to
do homework. I don't like to study, but I can
if I want to. So I researched every statute, every law,
every rule that anybody could possibly apply to my three
day camping weekend event. Smart So when they came at me,
I was like, well, actually, officer, the statute says blah
blah blah blah blah, and they don't know what to
say because they don't know what it says.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly, And so I know the rules.
Speaker 3: And that is the thing is when they try to
like throw something at me, I'm like, well, the rule
is this, and I will go right to the edge
of the rule and stay on the legal side of it.
But I was standing there with my tippytoes and go
and here I am on the edge of the rules.
And because this is the United States of America, it's
a free country and freedom of speech. And so back
to the meeting. I was telling you about one of
the ladies down the road. She goes, well, I see
the burner and they're building out there. This is some
sort of kind of church, Cannabis Church of New England,
and are they actually church? Do they pay taxes? And
so that was it.
Speaker 2: Because when we named it Cannabis.
Speaker 3: Church in New England, many many, many many years ago,
I looked into registering the church with the state of Maine.
You pay five dollars to reserve the name and then
you get yourself a nonprofit EI N number. Right, so
you give me a nonprofit. Well, my experience, what I've
learned about nonprofits is kind of hird. A lot of
money behind nonprofits. So I didn't want everybody going, oh,
it was making all kinds of money over there. That's
why she saw. I was like, no mallsat pay the
five dollars registered the name. That's the end of it.
So when I went to the meeting again at the
end of the summer, I thank the lady and I said,
thank you for reminding me about the church thing. I
now have a federal E A N, I have an
e I N number. I'm a registered church. So now
I'm not going to pay property taxes and we're not
going to pay sales tax on anything we buy for
the church, and thank you for that, you know what
I mean. And so she's like, oh, you know, and yeah,
piece in law and that's fantastic. We don't hurt anybody,
we have We have no accidents. Speaking of which, one
of the reasons that Mike's become the face of Charlie
So is because of his greeting magic.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, explain driveway, Yeah, explain the driveway thing, please, gras.
Speaker 6: Right, parking is an issue. Yeah, And I like to
meet everybody in the driveways. I have a system to
park bands and and and people for the show. But
I always ask them if they've ever been at the
hill before, Okay.
Speaker 3: As soon as they pull on the driveway, they.
Speaker 6: Always ask if they're first time is and I tell
them I have some simple rules. The simple rules are,
it's the cannabis church, eat drinks, Smoke all the weed
you want. I encourage it. If you drink, don't drive
out of here with a buzz either, the Sheriff of
the Deer are going to get you. But the one
thing I cannot and will not have is hard drugs.
We can't have that kind of stuff going on. I
can't have people o ding into Porta parties and right
that's the end of that. I just and and believe
it or not, A lot of people are relieved when
they hear that because they know they don't have to
worry now, right. And the people who come a lot,
they keep an eye out as well. So if there's
not a lot that goes on that we don't see,
you know, it's we police ourselves.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I get a lot of people with a lot of
eyes that watch.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: We got regulars that come all the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, yeah, you must have a lot
of regulars.
Speaker 6: Well it's the.
Speaker 5: Church, so yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we have a group of locals that come all
the time. Yeah, almost every Saturday night. Yeah, they watch
out for us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 4: It's their place to go to see music, right right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that makes sense.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's kind of our We call it the band cave,
but it's basically a big giant man cave.
Speaker 6: Yeah that's great. Yeah, it's great. We have we have
the secret weapon. That's Lloyd on the soundboard. Yeah, he's
our secret weapon.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know about that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we just we just got a new donation.
Speaker 7: They called me a secret weapon. It's kind of funny.
I really never went to school for any of this crap. Yeah,
I just started building stereos.
Speaker 3: When you took your first speaker apart, Lloyd.
Speaker 4: Uh, probably seven?
Speaker 7: Wow, Yeah, I've been I've always been building cabinets and speakers,
and you know on that end of it, the engineering
end of the building stuff.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and uh.
Speaker 4: I had a lot of friends in bands and they
can never seem to get the sound right.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And you know, again a lot of it's just hands
on by a compressor because of what it does.
Speaker 7: You read the book, you wire it in and you
use it. You know, I need to go to school
to take the tips from the book right right and
apply them.
Speaker 5: Yeah you know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, at seven years old, I had a twenty band
equalizer and a component system with wow no kttle.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
Speaker 7: My parents weren't scared for me to be playing with
you know. Yeah, yeah, I mean electronics.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know yeah.
Speaker 4: Radio shack, Yeah, radio shack.
Speaker 5: That was my favorite story.
Speaker 4: It wasn't.
Speaker 3: Build a barricade behind the control booth and you want
to talk to nobody. He don't want to see nobody really, Yeah,
I just want to do the sound that it was
the socialize there to make crowd guy, very serious about
the sound thing. So I have him here on your show. Yeah,
he's act found out people aren't so bad.
Speaker 5: Now that's good. That's good. Well, I'm very glad. I'm
very glad. What's the what's the what's the most challenging
show that you've that you've done there, maybe in terms
of logistics or running sound or like.
Speaker 3: I don't I think that that's an unfair question, Matt.
I feel that you've assaulted me with a trick question
because you can't judge one person's show by another, you
know what I'm saying, because they're all they're all great shows.
Speaker 4: Yeah, forty three bands in three days?
Speaker 8: Was that?
Speaker 5: Was that? The death metal festival?
Speaker 7: It was?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: One band dropped out. Yeah, and they were from all
around the country, around the world.
Speaker 3: That's that's the one. The neighbors get there, and he's
the biggest twisted about Yeah, the New England death Metal
fun Time Bonanza.
Speaker 5: I love the way.
Speaker 3: Eric is a young guy out of the New York
City area and they all went to you know, they
all went to school. He's incredible, absolutely incredible young man.
A band by the name of Bonginator and Bonginator showed
up with somebody else. They did a show, then they
put on another show. They put on a couple of shows,
and he did this. He didn't call it that, I
don't think in the beginning, but he did this annual
thing a couple of times somewhere else and then there
was a last minute glitch with the location and their
local Karen's, and he kind of hit me up and
he's like, hey, tymy, I got this three day weekend
thing and like we got bounced that whatever supposed to
do it. What do you think? And I'm like, all right,
bring it, you know, because we're there for the bands. Yeah,
and you know, we've there's been a couple of times
that weekend events were last minute canceled and it was
a shame somebody didn't hit us up because we weren't
doing anything that weekend and we would have happily shared
our dirt.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so he's made it bigger and better every year.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 3: And you know it's nothing we like to admit to,
but there was probably like three thousand people there this
week just this year. Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can't we think about.
Speaker 3: Accounted accounted, what was it, one hundred and one hundred
and something tents in the backside and sixty tents on
the front.
Speaker 6: Side, just like mentions tent I was straight up that
was oh wow, and not not counting car campers yet he.
Speaker 3: Had a guy count from Australia to bob Log. Yeah, oh,
bob Blog was something else. Let me tell you it
was great. He said he'd come from Australia again to
play there. Wow on the outside stage.
Speaker 5: So that must have been the most challenging, right, I mean,
that's a lot to handle.
Speaker 7: That's that's the funny thing, you know. I used to
I started with Terry and I took off and did
a little bit of traveling. Yeah, a little bit to
the festival, you know. And they wanted me because I
have I run the Wall of Sound. So yeah, you
ain't gonna find one of those anywhere anymore. I got
one except ah my guys don't want to move it anymore.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: But what I'll say is, out of all the festivals
that I've done, the people that came to the Death
Metal Festival were the most polite, the most controlled, I believe,
and the cleanest people I've ever had. I'm serious, gone
a grateful dead festival.
Speaker 3: Ground and that I agree with the most respectable group
of people when you have the biggest head count at
an event and everybody is respectful and we actually have
a loss and found instead of ground scores. You know,
it's kind of an unspoken rule there too, the little
ground score. No, there's no such as a ground score.
It's called lost and found.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look I found. Yeah, why don't you put it
in the box over here?
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We lot people leave like five thousand dollars set of symbols, okay,
all backaged up, and then they'll call me, you know,
they'll hit us up five six days later they're like, oh,
I'm ja lost her. Yeah, your stuff's still right here.
And that's one of the I think that's one of
the reasons Charlie still gets to love is because, yeah,
if you leave it there, it'll still be there.
Speaker 5: Right, that's really cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Rarely do we have stuff disappear. Yeah, honestly, gods,
you know what disappears? What super little two dollars trinkets?
And my dogs get fresh dog blankets. Yeah, and I
get them from the Salvation Army. Okay, so I'll go
in and there'll be these beautiful Afghans that somebody hand
knit it or crocheted, and they're like three bucks, four bucks.
So I buy them and I bring them out to
the venue and throw them on the couches in the chairs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and the respliners.
Speaker 3: That's what disappears. Man, is my afan?
Speaker 4: Somebody look just like old aunt.
Speaker 3: I'm a Zaffian, doesn't it or sole and souls? And
so they take it home and fine that you know.
Speaker 5: What, you know, it's gonna.
Speaker 3: Still be there, go figure out.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Late lately we've been, uh, we've been getting people that
bring things in and hide them amongst the other stuff, okay,
just to see if it will be there the next
time they come back. Yeah, I've been noticing I find
little little things that I didn't know we're here. Yeah,
because even though it's full of stuff, you know, you're
there all the time. You know what's what and what
belongs where. Yeah, and we're reaching the point where our
ceilings probably won't hold very many more shirts.
Speaker 5: Oh no kidding.
Speaker 3: Colection A T shirts hanging from the ceiling from all
the bands there.
Speaker 5: That's cool. That's something I've never seen too. That that's
I meant to do it.
Speaker 4: Like the Boston Garden.
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, that's that's a great concept. I've never
seen that t shirts hanging in a venue like that,
that's a great idea.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Somebody asked why why you get all the tapestries and
stuff the fit Charlie Hill Museum and Events venue. So
people like, why is this a museum that's kind of weird?
And as soon as they walk in the door and
they see like all this stuff, they're like, oh, yeah, m.
Speaker 5: That's a great idea. That's a really great idea.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But when you have a building that's fifty one and
twenty five feet and it's all moisture, mildew, fire commercial
fireboard and everything, yep, I'm sorry. Now, Lloyd don't take
his soul to this because he's a painter. He paints.
He doesn't like money taping. He's a professional, very professional painter.
Speaker 6: Want to the.
Speaker 3: Okay, on a ceiling that's not perfect, make it sound
he's a professionist. Yeah, So I'm looking at the ceiling.
It's like yuck, you know what I mean? Seriously, because
it was a garage. The other end of the building
is a garage. Automotive business was there. Okay, So I
mean put all the rock up all the way down,
so what's far from perfect?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So how do you take care of all those?
You know, no matter what you do is always going
to be imperfect. So that's where I started putting up
the tapestries and all the stuff on the ceiling. Is
to hide the imperfections with other imperfections. And then the
t shirts and it baffles you know, it kind of
keeps us down and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, keeps my face cancelation down.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: That in an active crossover.
Speaker 5: So tonight I was going to ask you what do
you have? What do you have? Tonight?
Speaker 3: We got we have Every show is great, no show
is better, worse than any show.
Speaker 4: We got some local boys.
Speaker 3: We got the local Boys out of Man excellent. So
we got Down Boys. Down Boys is one of the
newest up and coming bands. Okay, very very good bunch
of people.
Speaker 5: They were here last week the show. Yeah, and then
and then we got.
Speaker 3: Day to A ten. Yeah, so we get data attend
and Down Boys tonight and Day to attend. We had
the pleasure of going to the Aura in Portland. Oh
they opened for Ace Freeley.
Speaker 5: Remember that show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And so we got to go in you know,
on the coat tails of Jeff and Day to ten
and enjoy the ace freely show and check out the Aura.
So that was a great experience. Made friends with their
security crew up there, Taylor's security, I believe it was.
Speaker 5: Yeah, excellent, excellent. So that's so that's tonight. So day
to Attendant down, boys, anybody else, just the two or two,
just the two, excellent two.
Speaker 6: It's going to be a nice night.
Speaker 3: I think there's a surprise sometimes when we just have
two bands. It's kind of nice, yeah, because a lot
of them have quite a repert for our songs. Oh yeah,
but when you do one set, they never get the
chance to play all the songs, right, So when you
only have two bands, they'll do like a set and
then they'll take a break, and then they'll go up
and do all those other songs they never have a
chance to do, right Yeah. Yeah, and then break down
and then the other band will go up.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, that's very cool. That's very cool.
Speaker 6: We don't rush people on and off the stage, there's
no need to. Yeah, we're not beholding any curfews.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's excellent.
Speaker 6: Noteet Janet Mills did send her troopers down during COVID.
Oh yeah, we were doing a metal show. We had
around one hundred and fifty people. Yeah, and she sent
a letter from her desk oh in that we were
breaking COVID restrictions. Oh okay, we should see some desists, right,
and we didn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we just went on with it, right right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was That was one of those nights where
we felt really bad for the state police because they
never never come yeah in the wintertime, you know. Yeah,
and they're like, Terry, We're really sorry, but we came
here first because we knew that you would be the
most understanding.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Gena Mills gave us a hole list of businesses that
we have to go pull licenses from. We all know
that you don't care about your temporary event. It's campgrown
camping license in February. But yeah, they had to go
pull a bunch of restaurants and bars and taverns because
they were still leaving their doors open when it was ordered.
Speaker 4: That it was.
Speaker 3: It was sad, you know, felt bad for that whole situation.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: But sometimes, as Jeff Day would tend, you got a fight,
you're right to party.
Speaker 6: The Beastie Boys were profitts well.
Speaker 5: We are so before we run out of time? So
where should people go online to keep up with everything
that's happening at Charlie sil because you got I mean,
do you ever is there ever a Saturday that you
don't have a show? Do you ever take a Saturday off?
Or is there a show?
Speaker 4: Rarely?
Speaker 5: Is it fifty damn rare? Really?
Speaker 3: Doors are open every Saturday at seven o'clock, no matter what.
Speaker 5: Okay, once in a while we.
Speaker 3: Give Lloyd to Saturday off and show up and it's
acoustic only. Oh okay, y yeah he's a alkoholic. Yeah yeah,
So first Saturday of the it is always open GM night. Okay,
how do you get a chance to play at Charlie
cel show up at Open GM? Everybody gets their own
twenty minutes. So you got three guys in a band?
All right? Oh, got three guys in a band? Each
person get the Heck that's.
Speaker 5: Not the sheriff Colin is it?
Speaker 3: It could bes been on your show too? Oh yeah,
yeah absolutely, Zalen.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yah, he's calling to a bunch of times.
Yeah he's probably listening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he love your body.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So three person band shows up, each gets their twenty minutes.
They share their twenty minutes with each other, and they
just got themselves the forty five minutes.
Speaker 5: That okay.
Speaker 3: On the stage, Yeah, you have to play there, the
schedule a show there, prove that your lyrics aren't you know,
vulgar and yep, inappropriate, and and then that's how you
can put together a show. The bands put the shows together.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh, that's fantastic.
Speaker 6: Charlie's filled venue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I guess, I guess you want to say this.
We're not a business. We're not a bar, We're not
a restaurant. You gotta bring your own beverages. You're responsible
for your own alcohol consumption. We got couches and chairs.
You know, you can sleep in your car when the
weather's appropriate.
Speaker 6: We do, we do.
Speaker 3: We do take donations cash. We also take Venmo PayPal.
I just did recently. This is all new stuff to me.
Charlie made me do the Facebook. I wouldn't know a
thing about it to Okay, that's what I was gonna Terry's,
Terry's Church, t E R I s C H U
r c H Terry's Church, Terry My paypals and all
that stuff.
Speaker 5: And that's on.
Speaker 6: That's on.
Speaker 5: Facebook's Facebook, and.
Speaker 3: You can two seven four three two five one sixty three.
That's my personal phone number. If you call, it will
not answer the phone. You have to send me a
text message. Okay, okay, not on Facebook. Those are the digits, okay,
but Facebook is definitely the way to message.
Speaker 7: Somebody want to see a band and they want to
see the schedule, they probably want to go to what
Charlie Shi page.
Speaker 3: They got to go to the Charlie Hill page.
Speaker 5: So it's all right.
Speaker 6: I answered that.
Speaker 3: On the Facebook, the book of face.
Speaker 4: Right right, Yes, you'll have to use the Facebook.
Speaker 3: I come check out the show tonight.
Speaker 5: Well very good. Well we're running out of time, but
I want to thank all three of you for coming.
Of course, Mike Terry, you're us absolutely having thanks for
having us. This has been wonderful because, like I said,
the venue comes up on the show more than the
name of any other venue. So it's wonderful to and
to learn all about Charlie Sill, the history of it
and everything.
Speaker 6: We're looking forward to having you and gender show.
Speaker 5: Absolutely count on it, count on it.
Speaker 6: You'd love to have you.
Speaker 3: Guys, all about the music, all about the bands, Peace
and love and I think, uh oh, real quick man.
Yeah yeah, everybody's giving you stuff for Christmas. Yeah, okay,
so I brought you easter for Christmas.
Speaker 5: Wow? All right, well, thank you very good. Here, I'm
gonna i'm gonnaugh for people watching online. I'm gonna hold
it up there you go. Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 3: For Christmas.
Speaker 5: Did you No, I can't say.
Speaker 3: I want to make sure I got you saw me
you didn't already have.
Speaker 5: That's perfect.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 5: I appreciate it. I appreciate it very much. And we're
going to close out the segment with a day to
Attend song. I think that's appropriate since they're playing my
personal favorite, not coming back. And for those of you
listening live stick around in the third hour, Tombstones in
Their Eyes is going to be joining us via Microsoft teams.
They're on the West coast. Really looking forward to them.
Uh but again, thank you all three of you for coming.
This has been absolutely wonderful. Check out Charlie Shill and
here it is. This is not coming back by day
to attend.
Speaker 2: Zone.
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desided to go for a little ride, had had You're
not coming back. You're seen way too much. You're not
coming back, he said, way too much. Mother left you
when you were ten. Father, you have never seen him him.
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Speaker 5: I'm judgment tode.
Speaker 2: You don't coming back.
Speaker 8: You see you wait till much, you don't come in.
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Speaker 1: You don't call her back.
Speaker 4: I want to got your sta.
Speaker 2: It's got too bad.
Speaker 4: That it's you, That it's.
Speaker 2: The Apperci of my soul. Priece, we give.
Speaker 1: Peace.
Speaker 3: Begin name.
Speaker 2: The Apperci of my soul. Priece, forgive me.
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Speaker 2: Begin name.
Speaker 4: Mercy on ussle.
Speaker 2: Peace again, Max Peace, Begin mad down, Mercy a mussle.
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Speaker 1: You're not coming back.
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